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Huckabee Wins Values Voter Straw Poll

Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee cruised to a victory in a (very) early 2012 straw poll today at the Values Voter Summit in Washington, DC.

Huckabee received 28 percent of the vote while former Govs. Mitt Romney (Mass.) and Sarah Palin (Alaska) as well as Gov. Tim Pawlenty (Minn.) received roughly 12 percent of the vote. Indiana Rep. Mike Pence took 11 percent.

All but Palin addressed the crowd over the three-day gathering of social conservatives. Palin was in Alaska to welcome her son, Track, back from a year-long deployment in Iraq. (The Fix somehow missed this point in an earlier analysis in which we surmised that Palin's absence was evidence that she was far from a sure-thing to run in 2012. We still believe that to be true but her decision not to attend the Summit is entirely unrelated to her 2012 plans -- or lack thereof.)

Before too much is read into the straw poll results, remember two things: first, just over 500 total people cast ballots, and, second, we are still more than two years removed from the first votes of the 2012 election.

What should we take from the vote? That Huckabee is extremely popular among the most socially conservative of voters who view the former governor as one of them, a part of the movement. No surprise there.

But, as 2008 showed, Huckabee must find a way to expand from that base if he hopes to the nominee in 2012. Huckabee used his strength among social conservatives to win the Iowa caucuses last year but was unable to follow it up with a win in any other early state.

By Chris Cillizza  |  September 19, 2009; 9:36 PM ET
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All of us democrats remember how in 8 short years our country went down hill like a snowball in hell due to "POLICIES AND CORRUPTION OF THE BUSH ADM." Romney and the others were part of the policies so let them run because we have a few million more voters than Faux does. I am still laughing when Hannity kept flashing on his show that McCain and Palin won their debate by 86% to 12% and then when O'Reilly came on he said the only reason Obama and Biden won was because Palin had no experience in foreign affairs. {Not true because she could see Russia from her front porch} HA! HA! HA!

Posted by: SWAMPYPD | September 22, 2009 9:51 PM | Report abuse

> Palin is in the picture as PR only, and
> perhaps a cabinet position if the
> Republicans win in 2012 (which to me is a > given).

A given? Interesting how different people can interpret matters, for I believe a Huckabee, Romney or Pawlenty (let alone a Palin) don't have a prayer against Obama.

As for the GOP primary, unless Palin enters the race and takes away voters otherwise inclined towards Huckabee, I think the former Arkansas governor will be well-positioned to square off against Romney.

My guess is that the country-club, club for growth, party establishment and foreign policy hawks will strongly opt for Romney, while the white working-class base will largely opt for Huckabee.

Oh, and while on predictions, my money is on the Dems increasing their Senate majority in 2010, while the GOP may however win both Governor races this fall. I don't think such isolated successes point to a national resurgence. My sense is that the GOP has far more profoundly alienated moderate voters than many people recognise.

A GOP presidential candidate may fudge that issue, but I think congressional candidates have a far tougher time running away from the GOP party brand, which remains toxic. For all the base mobilisation successes we've seen, I'd say it's counterproductive in wooing moderates.

Anger is vocal and visible. But it ought not be mistaken as amounting to a majority at a national level.

Posted by: charlesf1 | September 22, 2009 7:45 AM | Report abuse

"One thing is for sure, voter turnout in the 2012 elections stand to be the biggest ever in American Politics. The right wing will be as motivated as never before in their quest to unseat incumbent President Obama. ==
Yeah people are really going to be amped up and motivated and Disney-eyed with enthusiasm and going door to door to campaign for Mitt Romney or Tim Pawlenty. Get real. The GOP has nobody. Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite "

The riled up Repubican base will be a small part of the return of the unvoted. uite a bit of the enthusiasm that got barack nominated seems to have been first time voters or long time non voters. If Health care passes and looks like it is in danger, if jobs look to be in danger should the republicans win there will be an awful lot of motivated voters who 'till now haven't had the spark to go out and vote. THAT is the surge in voters that the Republicans don't seem to fear. a seventy or eighty percent turnout will be mostly anti Republican in nature. If they have only the Democrats to vote for it will be a landslide of historic proportions.

On the other hand, should the American Reform Party or its successor get motivated and campaigning Barack's majority will drop, but the Republicans share of the votes will drop more as progressives and moderates desert the party for the new center right party. Large turn out could put the Republicans in third place and put the Democrats on warning for subsequent elections that there is a new political force rising.

But since I would have thought that the American Reform Party would have gotten back to business in the last Presidential election, the rising new Party I expect to see has failed to show before. Will it fail to show again?

Posted by: ceflynline | September 21, 2009 6:50 PM | Report abuse

One thing is for sure, voter turnout in the 2012 elections stand to be the biggest ever in American Politics. The right wing will be as motivated as never before in their quest to unseat incumbent President Obama.

==

Yeah people are really going to be amped up and motivated and Disney-eyed with enthusiasm and going door to door to campaign for Mitt Romney or Tim Pawlenty.

Get real. The GOP has nobody.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | September 21, 2009 3:24 PM | Report abuse

One thing is for sure, voter turnout in the 2012 elections stand to be the biggest ever in American Politics. The right wing will be as motivated as never before in their quest to unseat incumbent President Obama. The progressives and left liberals are going to have to swallow some center of the road politics from Obama until the outcome of the 2012 election. If turnout is higher than 2008 Obama should win re-election as long as unemployment starts to rebound and Afghanistan goes better than it is right now. If the outcome of 2012 is an Obama re-election we can look to really progressive action in his second term that the right wing will go crazy over, if they can be crazier than they are now. Lets hope he wins.
tom mcmahon
millis ma

Posted by: tommic856 | September 21, 2009 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Huckabee is the American Evangelical Taliban. His is a very DARK AGE. Cute Wattle though. Gobble Gobble.

Posted by: NGrunge | September 21, 2009 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Huckabee is the American Evangelical Taliba. His is a very DARK AGE.

Posted by: NGrunge | September 21, 2009 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Mike Huckabee is the American EVAGELICAL TALIBAN. Have you seen his audience on his show? His is a DARK AGE. Beware the false prophets using the Lord's name in vain. Huckabee will burn in hell for what he truly believes in his heart. It is kinda hard though not to like that cute Wattle of his.

Posted by: NGrunge | September 21, 2009 2:57 PM | Report abuse

In case any "lurkers" are curious, yes, he really is that stupid.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | September 21, 2009 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Remind me again where Barack Obama placed in any straw poll taken OVER THREE YEARS before Election Day, 2008? Oh, that's right, he didn't.

Posted by: JakeD | September 21, 2009 1:30 PM | Report abuse

"Values Voters"?

I notice these moral leaders scheduled their conference during Rosh Hashanah, thereby saying "No Jews Need Apply".

Did any of the Presidential contenders appearing at the conference express any concerns about Jews being excluded from the conference?

Not that we know of.

That speaks as much about them as it does about the "moral leaders" that hosted the event.

Posted by: trl618 | September 21, 2009 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Straw polls are fun but there is no way corporatist or neo-con republicans are going to put a Fox talk-show host on the presidential ticket. Nor will they put a governor who quit her office,or a governor who was willing to let his states infrastructure collapse for the sake of not raising a gas tax.
The rest of the GOP has doomed themselves because of their anti-health care reform while enjoying the best health care our tax dollars can provide and now flip-flopping on Afghanistan and Iraq.
They were for wars before they were against them.

Posted by: knjincvc | September 21, 2009 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Curmudgeon, the Republicans view intelligence as an absolute drawback in a potential voter.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | September 21, 2009 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Whose "values" are these voters touting? Not mine, but I consider myself a "values voter" which is why I cast my ballot for Obama last November.

After the weekend conference, Andy Borowitz noted, "Fox News host Glenn Beck called for stricter limits on the nation's IQ."

Posted by: The_Curmudgeon | September 21, 2009 8:44 AM | Report abuse

Umm, Bobster, "he DOD held up to the values with values"?

If you're going to emphasize a word with all caps, perhaps you should make sure you spelled it right?

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | September 20, 2009 11:48 PM | Report abuse

When it turned out the Moral Majority was neither, did they change the name to "Value Voters?" Or is this an entirely independent group of vain hypocrites?

Posted by: nodebris | September 20, 2009 10:26 PM | Report abuse

Well, Palin can't win anything, but her best impersonator won an Emmy.

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She can't finish anything she starts either.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | September 20, 2009 10:03 PM | Report abuse

When the economy is a tailspin and the machine of government isn't working the GOP will turn to Mitt Romney, an articulate candidate who has more proven success in the economy than Obama or any GOP candidate in the field.

Remember, it's the economy, stupid.

==

Yes, this frying pan sure is hot, what say we jump out of it and into the fire.

Mitt "Acquire and Fire" Romney is a champion of sending jobs out of the country and the ugliest expression of capitalism there is. A Romney candidacy would bring forth thousand of American workers who lost their jobs to Bain Capital's reverence for "profit maximization" and the "free market."

Go back to sleep.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | September 20, 2009 10:02 PM | Report abuse

Well, Palin can't win anything, but her best impersonator won an Emmy. Grats to Tina Fey.

Posted by: DDAWD | September 20, 2009 10:00 PM | Report abuse

Romney is the GOP's best chance in 2012. Please don't mention his religion. Only back water hicks would hold that against him.

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Uh, so would anyone who knows anything about Mormonism. They're not exactly on board with the "pluralistic society" thing.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | September 20, 2009 9:46 PM | Report abuse

"Lol dream on. You have really drank the koolaid it is funny how you support dirty tactics in your post. The democratic victory will not happen but you are right about the attacks via Palin." Posted by: Cryos

Hey, neat, using the Republicans' Presidential Candidates in political adds is dirty politics. To be specific, using Sarah Palin to attack Republican candidates is dirty politics.

Is THAT why Republicans are so fond of her candidacy?

Posted by: ceflynline | September 20, 2009 9:36 PM | Report abuse

"Remember, it's the economy, stupid. Posted by: monster1"

Yeap! And that stupid economy will have gained enough ground by November Next to make running on the Current Republican Platform difficult for the most nimble truth dodger.

Running and winning will be all but out of the question.

When Obama gets Health care, Economic resurgence on a broad front, Out of Iraq and restoring the Armed Services, the republicans have to run against his record with a straight face.

Although a grimace is really something of a straight face, come to think of it.

Posted by: ceflynline | September 20, 2009 8:46 PM | Report abuse

abbeydelabbey, you forgot those other great Christian Republicans Sen Ensign, Congressman Pickering and Congressman Foley. Looking for action away from home, a bunch of scolding grannies when in front of a microphone, and very contrite about their failings when at the C Street House.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | September 20, 2009 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Cyros:

When I was in my twenties I voted for Hubert Humphrey for president.

On another thread I exposed myself as fat beyond my years, a Democrat from the beginning.

Compare that to Fat between the ears, a primary requisite to support that other party.

Posted by: ceflynline | September 20, 2009 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Romney is the GOP's best chance in 2012. Please don't mention his religion. Only back water hicks would hold that against him. The nation as a whole convincingly elected a black president, they would certainly vote for Mitt Romney, just as they did to elect him Governor.

When the economy is a tailspin and the machine of government isn't working the GOP will turn to Mitt Romney, an articulate candidate who has more proven success in the economy than Obama or any GOP candidate in the field.

Remember, it's the economy, stupid.

Posted by: monster1 | September 20, 2009 7:50 PM | Report abuse

Believe me when I say that the Democrats will in fact use the threat of Madam Secretary (of State?) Sarah Palin as a talking point in their drive to a devastating landslide victory. By 2012 the economy will have somewhat recoverred, the tax cuts will have expired and therefore the deficit will have dropped, and 45 million Americans who didn't have health insurance will be waiting for 2013 and the ability to finally afford a family doctor. Since many of those 45 million aren't currently active voters, the landslide might be of even vaster proportions when half the great unvoted get out and vote against the Republicans to try to hold on to their jobs and their health care.

I can't wait.

Posted by: ceflynline | September 20, 2009 7:35 PM
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Lol dream on. You have really drank the koolaid it is funny how you support dirty tactics in your post. The democratic victory will not happen but you are right about the attacks via Palin.

Democrats are the true "party of fear" using pathetic attempts like that and using racism as a sword and shield when their ideas are horrible. Palin did not have the national experience for VP but look at Biden LOL. He has made so many gaffes he has resorted to nothing but smiling in the background at presidential speeches.

You are right about people voting out of personal greed but it is laughable about "voting for their jobs." Due to the use of 2 standard deviations and other wording in your post I"m guessing you're a naive college student maybe intelligent but way wet behind the ears. You'll realize once you get into your 20s that the facade is not what it seems and your mind will open to more objective rather than subjective view points. This is where many votes come from.

Posted by: Cryos | September 20, 2009 7:45 PM | Report abuse

"Isn't this is something like winning the Special Olympics? Posted by: nodebris "

No, in the Special Olympics they have Designated Huggers.

In the Republicans they have wide stances, Appalachian Trail Hikers, Friends of New Orleans Madams,

but designated hugging isn't manly enough for them.

Posted by: ceflynline | September 20, 2009 7:44 PM | Report abuse

This was just a vote from social conservatives. Maybe Huckabee is an ok guy but will not be supported widely by conservatives (except social). To me he is one of the worst types of "conservatives" as in fiscal and other means he is very moderate to liberal. We don't need another neo-con type in the WH.

I think republicans have learned real conservatives want accountability and fiscal conservatism not someone pushing social values while not getting constructive things done. I respect people's views as long as those views have them treat others well and it makes them a better person but there are more important things than just religion with the presidency of the US.

Posted by: Cryos | September 20, 2009 7:37 PM | Report abuse

"We're not two years away from real voting. We're a year away from real voting. Huckabee happens to be on TV a lot, and the real winner will be Romney in 2012, perhaps with Huckabee as running mate. Palin is in the picture as PR only, and perhaps a cabinet position if the Republicans win in 2012 (which to me is a given). Posted by: scorekeepn "

Believe me when I say that the Democrats will in fact use the threat of Madam Secretary (of State?) Sarah Palin as a talking point in their drive to a devastating landslide victory. By 2012 the economy will have somewhat recoverred, the tax cuts will have expired and therefore the deficit will have dropped, and 45 million Americans who didn't have health insurance will be waiting for 2013 and the ability to finally afford a family doctor. Since many of those 45 million aren't currently active voters, the landslide might be of even vaster proportions when half the great unvoted get out and vote against the Republicans to try to hold on to their jobs and their health care.

But just think of those wonderful commercials, with the pleasant but slightly threatening baritone saying, Would M whooever care to tell us now what cabinet posts he will offer Sarah Palin? How about telling us where Terry Sanford will fit in his administration, Ambassadore to Argentina?..."

I can't wait.

Posted by: ceflynline | September 20, 2009 7:35 PM | Report abuse

28% of 600 votes is ... 148 votes, a veritable landslide. 600 highly consevative Republicans gather in washington D.C., the wannabees come in and kowtow, and low and behold the Huckster wins his landslide.

This forum WAS revealing, in that it shows that all of the supposed papabili in the republican party intend to spend the next three years pandering to the rabid right. By that time there will be SO much video of Huck and Mitt and Minnesota fatuous trying to get well to the right of the John Birch society, and so much of those base huggers talking birther and bagger and tenther theology that they won't be able to speak a single word to the portion of the electorate within two standard deviations of the center with a shred of believability. The twenty percenters will get lavished with attention, praise, and promises, but the vaster majority of voters, having gotten economic recovery, which Mh and MR and MF were against, and health care, which MF and MH and MR were against, and resurrected American manufacturing jobs, which MR and MF and MH were against...

And in late August or early September of 2012 SOMEBODY is going to have to stand up in front of the republican National Convention and try to address tghe Center about how they really are the true American center Party.

It won't be one of the M. boys, but nobody presently available will be even marginally more plausible claiming that position that the three little prigs.

What are the chances that Ross Perot and his flip charts can make a come back?

Posted by: ceflynline | September 20, 2009 7:26 PM | Report abuse

Ah, the GOP -- the party of Christian 'family values'

Sanford's disappearance to visit to his mistress on Father's Day....

Vickers' adultery with a married staff member and payoffs to said mistress and her husband....

Palin whose extremism and ignorance and ego has no bounds and who uses her children as props as she spreads lies and fear....

Craig trying to pick up a male "date" in an airport bathroom....

I would keep going but I would get carpal tunnel syndrome....

The righteous-reich Republicans use the same tactics Hitler and his goons used -- lies and fear, and (when all else fails) show up to rallies and town meetings with guns!

Gosh, gotta love those Republicans ---

GOP = greedy out-dated prevaricators

Posted by: abbydelabbey | September 20, 2009 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Memo to Republicans: you don't win without independents, independents are not going to vote for Huckabee or Palin, you lose again. Until you find a candidate with some appeal, you are in the wilderness. If you keep running geriatrics and bible thumpers, the Democrats' no substance flim flammers and Hollywood types are going to keep winning. Start trying to find candidates that independent Americans will vote for. Another tip: don't look south of the Mason-Dixon Line. Southern presidents have been a disaster for both parties.

Posted by: icmop911 | September 20, 2009 5:45 PM | Report abuse

500 votes cast by Values Voter Summit, and this is news that they pick a former Baptist pastor? How significant is the Values Voter Summit, these people believe the earth is only 5,000 years old, and all of science is a theory, and that God actually wrote the bible, personally! These fundamental Christan's are a sorry lot, they cling to the Bible, a book written and edited by men to explain the basics of a new religion called Christianity. Those of us that grew up Catholic, Roman or Eastern (Orthodox), never studied and based our everyday life on the Bible, we focused on the main tenets of Jesus teachings, most of didn't even have a copy of the Bible in our homes. Why? Well because we compiled what is now called the Bible, in 331 when the Emperor Constantine commissioned Eusebius to deliver fifty Bibles for the Church of Constantinople. There is no actual verses of the Bible that were penned by their authors, they are based on what was believed to be the best information at hand to explain Christianity, and also empower forever the Church between man and God. The Bible is in my home, but it should be looked upon as a guide, and the definition of Christianity is the understanding of the Bible from cover to cover, not just one verse or chapter as is the case with these fundamentalist.

Posted by: garage | September 20, 2009 4:00 PM | Report abuse

The GOP is back to basics, lowest common denominator, at least according to the Value Voters Summit. They selected their candidate, Mike Huckabee. I think for his running mate he should select Carrie Prejean. There are related posts at http://iamsoannoyed.com/?page_id=588

Posted by: carlyt | September 20, 2009 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Thank you, Broadwayjoe. Hucksterbee is the kindly goodcop in the GOP's 2012 cast. He's the smiling face they put up to 'front' for their ugly, outdated ideas.

Does that make Quitter Palin the badcop?

Posted by: margaretmeyers | September 20, 2009 10:00 AM
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In the old days the MSM would have exposed Huckabee before he ever got started. It would seem he's not the kindly Captain Kangaroo/Mr. Rogers guy they make him out to be. Internet journalist Charley James told us the real deal about Phalin but they blocked the information and decided to push their bogus Joan of Eck media persona.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | September 20, 2009 11:53 AM | Report abuse

This is a real poll, if you want to get an unbias polls. Just read, analyze and study it.

Posted by: alvin1435 | September 20, 2009 10:59 AM | Report abuse

I can not stop laughing if the GOP chooses Glen Beck and Russ Limbaugh as their front runner, what do you think, will happened to us? Think we will all be a bunch of lunatic, and crazy people. hahahahhahaha,,LOL.

Posted by: alvin1435 | September 20, 2009 10:54 AM | Report abuse

I completely understand why you would not want any information on Jarrett getting out. Just like van and acorn. Hide the crazys.

If voters find out what you dems are really like and trying to accomplish, the party will be over. Empty promises and lies not withstanding.

Posted by: snowbama | September 20, 2009 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Thank you, Broadwayjoe. Hucksterbee is the kindly goodcop in the GOP's 2012 cast. He's the smiling face they put up to 'front' for their ugly, outdated ideas.

Does that make Quitter Palin the badcop?

Posted by: margaretmeyers | September 20, 2009 10:00 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: angie12106
Did the Values Voters discuss Sen. Vitter (R-LA) wearing diapers with a hooker? and his name on the DC Madame's list.
How about Sen. Enzi (R) who recently admitted an affair with a female staff member?
What about the adulterous Gov. Sanford (R-SC)?

RESPOND;
Aaaand what is your point here for Huckabee or against Huckabee? People like him because he DOD held up to the values with values. Not that I am republican, I like Mike Hucakbee because he does stand out away from the crooks that you mentioned above and he had a good idea for the TAX REFORM in this country. That idea would probably be " A REAL CHANGE" today!

Posted by: BOBSTERII | September 20, 2009 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Obama won Iowa and Democrats raised him to the throne.

Huckabee won Iowa and Republicans raised McCain to the throne and lost with their heads rolling down.

If Republicans had chose Huckabee, they could walk proud with their heads up, even though he would have probably loose against Obama, but still they could call some shots now and have a big chance in 2010 and 2012. Now, their voice don't matter at all to anybody and they have no chances at all because of McCain and Bush support.

Posted by: BOBSTERII | September 20, 2009 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Pretty sad that the "winner" of this poll is some cable TV host famous only for losing a lot of weight (some of which he's gaining back).

Turns out awhile back, the Nation's Max Blumenthal did some reporting on Huckabee, the kind the Post used to do in the Wood-stein days. Disturbing excerpt:

"As South Carolina's Republican primary election draws nearer, Mike Huckabee has ratcheted up his appeals to the racial nationalism of white evangelicals. "You don't like people from outside the state coming in and telling you what to do with your flag," the former Arkansas governor told a Myrtle Beach crowd on January 17, referring to the Confederate flag. "If somebody came to Arkansas and told us what to do with our flag, we'd tell them what to do with the pole. That's what we'd do."

Making coded appeals to white racism is nothing new for Huckabee. Indeed, well before he was a nationally known political star, Huckabee nurtured a relationship with America's largest white supremacist group, the Council of Conservative Citizens. The extent of Huckabee's interaction with the racist group is unclear, but this much is known: he accepted an invitation to speak at the group's annual conference in 1993 and ultimately delivered a videotaped address that was "extremely well received by the audience.""

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/state_of_change/272545
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Important number? How about 46? A Statistical Tie for Deeds against McDonnell (Mac 48-Deeds 46). Deeds's catchup to Mac seems almost completely due to the macaca-like effect of Mac's now-famous female hating "Thesis."
________

"The new Rasmussen poll in Virginia finds that Democratic candidate Creigh Deeds is closing the gap against Republican Bob McDonnell -- and that McDonnell's hard-right grad school thesis could be sinking in further with the public.

The numbers: McDonnell 48%, Deeds 46%, within the ±4.5% margin of error."

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/09/poll-deeds-catching-up-with-mcdonnell-thesis-growing-in-importance.php

The print version of the Post today has somewhat similar poll results.

Phalin is still the one to beat--we all know that. As DD pointed out, Romney won this poll before and look where that got him.
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P.S.: Next Glenn Beck target--BHO's BFF, Valerie Jarrett. Beck did an idiotic one-hour "expose" on Varrett the other day, attacking her and her family and tying them with "commies" and such Faux News favorites as Bill Ayers and Reverend Wright. Many in O-Nation are still not fans of BHO's rope-a-dope, don't-fight-back strategy. The full Van Jones/ACORN treatment for Ms. Jarrett may be forthcoming on Faux's hate programming shows. Will 44 respond? Hope so.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | September 20, 2009 9:25 AM | Report abuse

How many minorities in the room at this so-called "values" summmit?

The only value these teabaggers, birthers, gun nuts, wing nuts, survivalists, miliaists, and hood-wearers seem to have is the resegregation of America!!!!!

Yeeeaaaaggghhhh!!!!!

Posted by: bs2004 | September 20, 2009 8:18 AM | Report abuse

Limbaugh/Beck 2012

Posted by: ccs4756 | September 20, 2009 8:17 AM | Report abuse

haha! this is brilliant news. mike huckabee got crushed by john mccain - who then got crushed my obama. four more years?hell yes.

Posted by: teenageindiefan | September 20, 2009 7:48 AM | Report abuse

Did the Values Voters discuss Sen. Vitter (R-LA) wearing diapers with a hooker? and his name on the DC Madame's list.
How about Sen. Enzi (R) who recently admitted an affair with a female staff member?
What about the adulterous Gov. Sanford (R-SC)?


Posted by: angie12106 | September 20, 2009 7:41 AM | Report abuse

Based on this straw poll; President Obama let me be the first to congratulate you on your reelection.

Posted by: merrylees | September 20, 2009 7:20 AM | Report abuse

Huckabee winning the straw poll explains why this event was held on the weekend of Rosh Hashanah.

Mazel Tov, Mike!

Posted by: margaretmeyers | September 20, 2009 6:58 AM | Report abuse

mpgreeson, I'm assuming Mike Pence was either a presenter or an organizer at Value Voter.

The same kind of sophisticated thinking gets "Put a ring on it" on so many 'Island Disc' lists.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | September 20, 2009 6:56 AM | Report abuse

There is a reason the framers separated church and state. One need only listen to the raving lunatics like Limbaugh and Beck to understand that religion has no place in a world of civility. There are only two causes of all the wars in recorded history, land and religion. Land can be dealt with over common ground but religion depends on the irrational following of teachings over common sense. Anyone of intellect can readily see that religion has no basis in any factual account of the historical beginnings of the solar system/ universe but the belief is that "God" magically created something 3.4 billion years before he or she was ever in evidence. Such thinking strays from sanity under most accepted definitions.

Posted by: anOPINIONATEDsob | September 20, 2009 5:27 AM | Report abuse

Everyone say a prayer...Lord,protect us from your followers...
Interesting,while this Evangelical Wing Nut Collection can not get enough of of the Mormon Moron Glenn Beck,nuttier than a Pecan Pie,they are turned off by Mitt,the respectable Mormom. I guess Mitt is not one of them,a "True" believer,but rather a member of a "Cult",and "Made Up Religion".
Because old Huckster has the Flat Earth Society in his back pocket,Mitt just might have to hang it up,and instead seek a new career in Hollywood.
Based on his past political experience and ever changing positions,he can join the cast of "True Blood",and star as a "Political Shape Shifter".

Posted by: jeromejmarkiewicz | September 20, 2009 5:18 AM | Report abuse

Have to agree with you DDAWD, Huckabee is a warm and engaging guy. It's hard not to like his personality. Where Palin's alpha and omega are hate and division, Huckabee sounds like a guy who really cares about people.

I'd go on a weekend hike with the guy, I'd go to a barbecue with him, I'd share a tent with him and talk late into the night about absolutely everything.

But I'd do anything in my power to make sure he never got national power. He's in the religious right. He believes in imminent apocalypse and would make it so.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | September 20, 2009 3:23 AM | Report abuse

Palin? Did someone mention Palin?

"Gov." Quitterpalin?

Please.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | September 20, 2009 3:12 AM | Report abuse

Again to respond to JakeD, I personally think Huckabee is far more charismatic than Palin. If I knew nothing about their positions, I could easily see myself voting for the guy. He's got a wonderful sense of humor.

Posted by: DDAWD | September 20, 2009 2:59 AM | Report abuse

First of all, how hard could it be to get some past winners of the poll? Second, let me take a second from ignoring JakeD to explain Obama's hilarious, but non-PC special olympics joke. Him and Leno were talking about his bowling score and then Leno started giving him mock praise for that. Eye rolling and everything. Then Obama came out with the Special Olympics thing. He wasn't comparing his performance to SO quality. he was making a joke about how we all talk about their courage and whatnot, but are laughing on the inside every time they fail to clear a hurdle.

AWESOME joke. Not one a politically smart one, though.

After about 20 seconds of googling, Romney won the 2007 straw poll. Guiliani didn't place top 4. Impressive considering that Guiliani was crushing the MSM polls at the time and that Romney ended up placing second.

Posted by: DDAWD | September 20, 2009 2:56 AM | Report abuse

"Values"...and Republicans? HAHAHAHA...no please...please stop...HAHAHAHAHA...can't breath...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...can't...can't stop...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAHHHAAAAHHHHHAAAAAAAAA...

Posted by: wilder5121 | September 20, 2009 2:55 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: JakeD | September 20, 2009 2:32 AM | Report abuse

robray and dsrobins:

ANYTHING is possible.

Posted by: JakeD | September 20, 2009 2:25 AM | Report abuse

VoteforTruth:

I would definitely vote for Huckabee over Obama, but my concern is that he does not have the charisma or drawing power like Palin.

Posted by: JakeD | September 20, 2009 2:20 AM | Report abuse

Seems like what we have here is not a news story but a re-hash of a press release.

It's 2009. These results are meaningless - the names might as well be Alfred E. Newman and Herbert Hoover.

Posted by: robray | September 20, 2009 2:13 AM | Report abuse

So Huckabee won the "vote." How comical. Nevertheless, it was good to see that he beat out Romney and Palin by double margins. Huckabee has a one percent chance of winning the White House and, happily, thats ten times the chance that either Sarah, the trailer trash queen, or Romney have. Keep it up, Republicans.

Posted by: dsrobins | September 20, 2009 2:13 AM | Report abuse

BTW, Mike Huckabee won by 9% over Romney in Iowa during the 2008 primary. He would have won SC, but Thompson was in there to take his votes away, so McCain would win. Thompson never won anything..just a spoilsport.

Also, Mike Huckabee on Super Tuesday, won GA, AL, real close second in MO, AR, Louisiana and Kansas. He came in 2nd behind McCain with all the Repub. establishment ignoring him...but the people in this country (the voters) like him. He won between 10-13% of the vote in the states that voted AFTER he dropped out of the primary. That's pretty impressive.

Posted by: VoteforTruth | September 20, 2009 2:10 AM | Report abuse

Special Olympic jokes, perfect!

Posted by: JakeD | September 20, 2009 2:04 AM | Report abuse

Governors have to deal with the same depts. and issues as the President only on a much smaller scale.

Mike Huckabee has almost 11 yrs. experience as a Governor of Arkansas. He inherited a $200M deficit with terrible schools and infrastructure. He left the state with schools rated 6th in the country and some of the best roads in the country according to the truck drivers. Yes, he raised some taxes (the people in Arkansas voted they wanted the taxes raised to get better schools). He vetoed bills to increase taxes, but the legislature in Arkansas was almost all Democrats, so they went over what he wanted. You cannot compare one state to another to say this person was not a fiscal conservative because it depends on the money they have and what condition the state is in during their tenure. This is a very Democratic state (except voting for the Pres. election), so Mike Huckabee had to work hard to get anything done. He received over 48% of the black vote (Democrats) when he ran for his second term. He is the most popular candidate of the Black minority that the Republicans have, and we need somebody who can pull even a little bit of that vote to our side in the 2012 election. He is the most charismatic, excellent speaker and we need somebody like that to compete with the skills of Obama. When Mike Huckabee governed in Arkansas, he did not force his religion on the people of Arkansas, and would not force his religion on people as President in 2012. When he ran in 2008, he did not want all the Chiristian questions during the debates, but the Republican establishment wanted to only present him as a Christian pastor so the people wouldn't vote for him, He fooled them, because he came in second and got between 10-13% of the votes in the states that came AFTER he dropped out of the race. In polls, he gets the highest scores from Independents and Blue Dog Democrats when polled against other leading Republican candidates, so he can win votes across the board, not just the Republican voters, or the Christian voters.

Mike Huckabee voted to allow the poorest children in Arkansas to have health care when he was Governor of Arkansas. He is pro-life but also believes in helping children after they are born.

He would make a great President to all the people in the U.S.

Posted by: VoteforTruth | September 20, 2009 2:01 AM | Report abuse

Isn't this is something like winning the Special Olympics?

Posted by: nodebris | September 20, 2009 1:28 AM | Report abuse

If Huckaby wins the nomination in 2012, I will eat this key board in one setting. Of course stranger things have happen and the Republicans will need a sacrificial goat in 2012 since by than the economy will be roaring and Obama will be re-elected by an even larger majority than he did last year.

Posted by: Opa2 | September 20, 2009 1:15 AM | Report abuse

That's just as it should be, perfect. The voter straw poll picks the straw man.
If he only had a brain !
But there's no wizard of OZ in DC to provide him with a brain certificate. So the religious straw freak has to go it on his (brainless) own. LOL

Posted by: fscalzi | September 20, 2009 1:14 AM | Report abuse

That's just as it should be, perfect. The voter straw poll picks the straw man.
If he only had a brain !
But there's no wizard of OZ in DC to provide him with a brain certificate. So the religious straw freak has to go it on his (brainless) own. LOL

Posted by: fscalzi | September 20, 2009 1:14 AM | Report abuse

Value voters? Here's some of what these 600 folks discussed:

GLOBAL WARMING HYSTERIA: THE NEW FACE OF THE "PRO-DEATH" AGENDA.
OBAMACARE: RATIONING YOUR LIFE AWAY.
SPEECHLESS-SILENCING OF THE CHRISTIANS.
THUGOCRACY-FIGHTING THE VAST LEFT WING CONSPIRACY.

Huckabee? Fat chance.

What a circus the GOP has become.

Posted by: jfern03 | September 20, 2009 1:11 AM | Report abuse

Ohhh,,the party of NO, and it will be no on election day. It will be the time to harvest what you all planted which is hate, misinformations, and trying to subdivide the country with your unfounded rhetoric.

Posted by: alvin1435 | September 20, 2009 1:08 AM | Report abuse

@dotellen: don't underestimate these people. They are determined, they're patient, they're organized, and they play for keeps. Each time the religious right has lost one like the Scopes trial they hunker down and re-strategize. They stick their people in school boards, in municipal offices, in state administrative positions, and they keep working, one generation after another.

They lost in '25, they lost in '64, they won one in '80, and they hit pay dirt in 2000. Their fortunes are waxing over time, not waining, and if they get their way we'll have some really horrible couple of years with a BIG spike in judicial murder, before they make their apocalyptic vision a reality. Dead planet.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | September 20, 2009 12:21 AM | Report abuse

I am relieved that there are only ~600 extremist nutcases willing to attend such a conference.

BTW, Pence is probably the most moderate Republican there, but not a very brainy guy. I think he is the son-in-law for the former 30-year incumbent, John Myers (AKA 'Kissing John').

Posted by: dotellen | September 20, 2009 12:13 AM | Report abuse

Yeah we really need a president who thinks important things can be accomplished by folding his hands and making telepathic petitions to a giant invisible spirit.

Why don't you guys stick to screaming about all the people you hate.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | September 20, 2009 12:03 AM | Report abuse

Gosh, right when the Republicans need some fresh faces they offer up reruns.

Posted by: JoeNTx | September 20, 2009 12:03 AM | Report abuse

Can someone please explain Mike Pence? 11 percent?

Posted by: mpgreeson | September 19, 2009 11:59 PM | Report abuse


Man, It's diffult to believe that anyone would seriously consider Huckleberry and Palin the idiot child, as presidential material. This nation has fallen far.

One has to wonder what the 28% voters were smoking at the Values Voter Summit. Neither one of these two individuals mentioned, has any values I'd want to follow or allow my children to participate in.

Posted by: surfer-joe | September 19, 2009 11:59 PM | Report abuse

Republicans are calling Obama a Socialist, a Communist, a Fascist (sic), a Muslim, a Manchurian President, a liar, a phony.

We all know what they're really itching to call him, don't we?

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | September 19, 2009 11:47 PM | Report abuse

Republicans are accusing Obama of spending money? So in their world it would have been better to let the recession created by Bush and his deregularization destroy America?

Posted by: angelou | September 19, 2009 11:44 PM | Report abuse

Google: Huckabee Fan Club

==

I call troll

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | September 19, 2009 11:41 PM | Report abuse

So where do you plan to get the other 45 million votes?

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | September 19, 2009 11:39 PM | Report abuse

Excuse me, are these the Value Voters who are shagging their Argentinian girl friend on the Appalacian Trail, or the ones who continue to argue for the Confederate Flag to be flown, or are these the ones that are praising their god while advocating that their own neighbors go hungry, go without healthcare and go without shelter because their god cannot possibly abide by anyone messing with their "free market" - ??? Are these the Value Voters who support a clown like Huckabee, or Palin or Romney or Reagan, or Limbaugh or Beck? IF so, please spare me any more of these useless reports...

Posted by: cmaexecutive | September 19, 2009 11:35 PM | Report abuse

Hey, maybe between now and 2012 someone can teach Huckabee that the Earth is more than 6,000 years old!!!!!!!! What a joke, next we'll have a "Cave Man" for president, Notice I didn't capitalize.......... the presidency has fallen that far!!!

Posted by: IngersollsChild | September 19, 2009 11:26 PM | Report abuse

BREAKING NEWS....

Grassroots effort by Huckabee Fans help Mike Huckabee clinch the 2012 Presidential Straw Poll vote at the Value Voter Summit.

Check out his gigantic fan base that is working 24/7/365 to get him elected in 2012 as our 45th President.

Google: Huckabee Fan Club

Posted by: vote4mikehuckabee | September 19, 2009 10:52 PM | Report abuse

We're not two years away from real voting. We're a year away from real voting.

Huckabee happens to be on TV a lot, and the real winner will be Romney in 2012, perhaps with Huckabee as running mate. Palin is in the picture as PR only, and perhaps a cabinet position if the Republicans win in 2012 (which to me is a given).

Posted by: scorekeepn | September 19, 2009 10:48 PM | Report abuse

Obviously the term "values voters" is self-applied and has nothing to do with the quality of those values.

Posted by: ArmyBrat68 | September 19, 2009 10:22 PM | Report abuse

But with South Carolina likely early, wouldn't Huckabee potentially have two largely socially conservative states to build some momentum?

Outside of those two, though, the early (and unformed) calendar appears to favor Romney. (See http://frontloading.blogspot.com/2009/09/huckabee-takes-2009-value-voters-straw.html)

And c'mon, it wasn't just over 500 folks; it was just under 600 (597). Of course, VVS didn't allow online voting today like they did in 2007. They only had about a tenth of the voters participating today. (See http://frontloading.blogspot.com/2009/05/2012-presidential-primary-calendar.html)

Posted by: jtputnam | September 19, 2009 10:18 PM | Report abuse

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