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Could Mike Huckabee be the 2012 presidential nominee?



Could Mike Huckabee be the 2012 nominee? AP photo

Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee (R) leaned heavily toward the 2012 presidential race over the weekend, telling Fox News Channel's Chris Wallace that he "does better against [President] Obama than any other Republican."

After Huckabee's interview -- in which he also cited a "strong sentiment out there" for him to run -- the governor wrote a blog post on the confirmation hearings for Supreme Court nominee Elena Kagan in which he sought to remind people of the stakes in elections. "When I hear a statement like 'Republicans and Democrats are all the same,' I cringe and think of moments in our nation's history just like this one," he wrote.

Huckabee has also used his HUCK PAC to endorse and donate to candidates of his choosing -- although his fundraising capacity to date doesn't rival that of former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney or Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty -- both of whom are widely expected to run for president in 2012.

Of late then, Huckabee is giving every public indication that he is ramping up a run for president.

In private, however, there is little evidence that Huckabee is doing the sorts of things -- broadening his political network, hiring a team of experienced campaign operatives and, most important, focusing heavily on fundraising -- that would convince the D.C. chattering class that he has learned the right lessons from the 2008 campaign.

"While he is making noises in the national press, I am not seeing any of the organizational moves that would tell me he is making a serious run," said Alex Vogel, a Republican lobbyist closely monitoring the 2012 field. "The people inside the Beltway won't get moved by statements in the press. They will look for real action."

Hogan Gidley, who runs HUCK PAC, insisted the fact that Huckabee's approach to politics is different from some of his potential 2012 rivals is a strength, not a weakness.

"The Governor's success comes from his expansive, nationwide network of committed volunteers who believe in true conservatism," said Gidley. "Much to the chagrin of many Washington, D.C., insiders, Gov. Huckabee's success has come without all the help from the establishment or high paid political consultants."

Gidley added that Huckabee has organized volunteer teams in each of the 50 states "awaiting the slightest hint of a presidential run" and that HUCK PAC has nearly doubled its 2009 donor base in just the first six months of 2010.

"Money is an important component to elections -- no doubt -- but if the Beatles and the 2008 presidential cycle have taught us anything, it's that money can't buy you love," said Gidley, channeling his always-quotable boss.

Gidley's points are worth noting -- and his hiring is evidence that Huckabee is playing the game a bit more seriously. (Gidley is a former executive director of the South Carolina Republican party and replaced Sarah Huckabee, the governor's daughter, who is now running Arkansas Rep. John Boozman's Senate campaign.)

And yet, there still seems to be a sense within Huckabee's world that simply re-running the 2008 campaign is a winning blueprint.

In that race, Huckabee managed to win the Iowa caucuses while being drastically outspent by Romney in a campaign that depended heavily on his base among social conservatives, strong volunteer support and his obvious personal appeal as an outsider (of sorts) to the political process.

It's important to remember, however, that Iowa was the only early state that Huckabee carried. He took just 11 percent in New Hampshire to finish a distant third and while he bounced back to finish second in South Carolina, he placed fourth in Florida's primary. By then Sen. John McCain (Ariz.) had wrapped up the nomination, although Huckabee stayed in the race and won a handful of (mostly Southern) states.

There's considerable reason to believe that simply re-creating his 2008 strategy in Iowa might not be a recipe for success for Huckabee.

Consider:

* Huckabee had the social conservative field virtually to himself in 2008 as the other prime contenders for the nomination -- McCain, Romney and former Sen. Fred Thompson (Tenn.) -- were not, first and foremost, social conservatives. It's hard to imagine Huckabee having such a clear run in 2012. The field remains too fluid to make hard and fast predictions about who might compete with him for the votes of social conservatives. But Pawlenty, former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, South Dakota Sen. John Thune and Texas Gov. Rick Perry would all try to co-opt Huckabee's support in this critical voting bloc if they ran.

* Huckabee was largely ignored by the likes of Romney until it was too late in Iowa in the last race. You can be sure that Romney -- and the rest of the field -- won't make that mistake again. And, don't forget that the Club for Growth, which has flexed its considerable muscle in the 2010 cycle already, vehemently opposed Huckabee's candidacy in 2008 because of the taxes and fees he raised as governor. If Huckabee runs, he will have a MUCH larger target on his back than he did in 2008. (And, don't forget the name Maurice Clemmons; Huckabee's opponents sure won't if he decides to run again.)

* Huckabee has aligned himself closely with Bob Vander Plaats in Iowa, the man who ran unsuccessfully for governor earlier this month and unsuccessfully challenged former Gov. Terry Branstad's pick for lieutenant governor at the state convention over the weekend. To date, Vander Plaats has not endorsed Branstad's candidacy and has floated the idea that he will run for governor as an independent this fall. Such a move would put Huckabee in a tight spot -- particularly given that Branstad is a strong favorite to be elected governor this fall and will have a major role to play in the state's 2012 first-in-the-nation caucuses. "It would be disrespectful to Mr. Vander Plaats and to many of Governor Huckabee's friends and supporters in Iowa if he were to endorse Governor Branstad without Mr. Vander Plaat's having already done so," said Gidley today when asked whether Huckabee had any plans to get behind the GOP gubernatorial nominee.

The larger question facing Huckabee: In a nominating process heavily dependent on mechanics and process, can a candidate who openly eschews both have any real expectation of winning?

The strength of Huckabee's personality -- and the authenticity he exudes -- should not be underestimated. (Make sure to read the New Yorker's lengthy profile of Huckabee for insight into the power of his personality.)

But neither should the fact that operationally he is well behind candidates such as Romney and Pawlenty. Mechanics don't win nominations -- if they did, Romney would have been the nominee in 2008. But they ensure that if a candidate's message catches on, he/she has the infrastructure in place to take advantage.

Re-creating his 2008 campaign and message then won't be enough for Huckabee. Leading in very early national 2012 polls is all well and good but isn't a true measure of a candidate's likelihood of winning the nomination. (See: Clinton, Hillary Rodham circa 2008.)

By dint of his 2008 campaign and the national profile it afforded him, Huckabee has an opportunity to build on what he accomplished in 2008. But, will he take it?

By Chris Cillizza  |  June 28, 2010; 2:05 PM ET
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Huckabee is a closet Christian extremist...he questioned Romney's faith, because it was not identical to Huckabee's faith. Considering the immense differences in our religious culture...Huckabee would be a White Obama...causing dissension and distrust among Americans.

Posted by: adamscar | July 2, 2010 9:13 PM | Report abuse

His extreme religious right attitude will doom him from the start. He has already made religious gaffs that turn off everyone but his own religious crowd.

The national public will not want a President like this

Posted by: Bious | June 30, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Once again there is an abundance of opinion and ignorance masquerading as fact here. I won't even get into most of that though as I am here to comment on the GOP race for 2012. The insiders like Romney, despite the fact that he is as exciting as day old toast, and is not acceptable to the folks that support Palin or Huckabee. Palin and Huckabee should split the social conservative vote, so both will need to expand beyond that base. Whichever one wins the most votes outside of their base could become the nominee. Especially with an electorate that is fed up with career politicians. Huckabee and Palin have both been in private business. Huckabee as a station manager and Palin with the family fishing business. Both have an ability to communicate with people, unlike any of their likely and unlikely opponents. Nobody I've heard mention Newt G., but his entrance or support could make a big difference. Huckabee's show has been a bit of a game changer as it has given him a lot of name recognition he did not have in 2008. Though it does not mean some changes to his plan in 2008 would not be worth considering for 2012. Palin, is clearly on the national stage, but a lot of folks question if she belongs there. She is not the idiot as so many in the media portray her. Is it sexism? Some of it clearly is. Some of it is based upon her conservative views, and as such she will be mocked as any of the men will be. Pawlenty, Thune and some others do not have their appeal to the electorate, but do have their individual strengths. Ultimately, if the economy does not change, the GOP will have to shoot themselves in the foot to avoid wining in 2012.

Posted by: randyjdavisgeo | June 29, 2010 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Huckabee would be the Republican version of Obama: They both know how to talk. But neither of them has a clue about the economy because neither of them has ever run a business.

As one of those who has been hurt by the economy, I'm thinking it would helpful if we had a president with a real resume. I'm far more impressed with either Romney or Jindal.

Posted by: WeNeedSkills | June 29, 2010 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Huckabee would be the Republican version of Obama: They both know how to talk. But neither of them has a clue about the economy because neither of them has ever run a business.

As one of those who has been hurt by the economy, I'm thinking it would helpful if we had a president with a real resume. I'm far more impressed with either Romney or Jindal.

Posted by: WeNeedSkills | June 29, 2010 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Threadjack. As Noacoler often waits until the wee hours of the morning to respond to
posts, it becomes necessary to either ignore them or respond in a later post.
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Noacoler wrote,
"OK, as promised. The reason that homosexuality doesn't die out by reproductive attrition could not be more obvious to anyone lest that someone is as much an idiot as Brigade. For ~5% of the population to be homosexual is fundamental to the definition of humanity and can no more be bred out than we can start being born with both arms on one side. It is deeply and firmly established in the genome. The fact that some societies, apparently originating with nomadic Sephardics, cannot force it away by discrimination shows that is it not something passed around in some families but not others, like alcoholism.

The origin? Probably the hundreds of thousands of years we spent as hunter-gatherers, when there was obviously an advantage (that's right Brigade A-D-V-A-N-T-A-G-E, so S*CK IT UP) to having some males not reproducing, or not joining the hunt. I'm speculating in this paragraph but not in the last one.

And while homosexuality is clearly not linked to a single gene or to a gene cluster, the disposition is probably expressed in the uterine environment."

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I expected a more substantive response. An earlier poster provided a link to a theory that, while amounting to little more than educated guesswork, was at least sprinkled with scientific terminology about X and Y chromosomes and mitochondrial DNA.

Noacoler's explanation is on the level of "God made gays the way they are; it's part of the natural order" (fundamental to the definition of humanity, is how he puts it). While that may be true, it's not very Darwinistic. The gene for homosexuality is "deeply and firmly established" in the human genome, we are told. But just how did this come about? Such a development, which works against rather than in support of reproductive efficiency, certainly cannot be called "neutral"---bi-sexuality, maybe; homosexuality, hardly. No reason is given why natural selection should favor or even allow such a state other than some blather about hunter-gatherers and a feeble attempt to somehow equate the condition with being bipedal.

I thought we might see evidence linking homosexualty with some other genetic abnormality which, on balance and given the right environmental circumstances, might provide a positive impetus in the selection process. No such luck. While Mayr and Haldane turn in their graves, Noacoler inadvertently brings creationism one step closer to the classroom. Poor devil.

Posted by: Brigade | June 29, 2010 7:02 PM | Report abuse

Hasn't Huckabee heard? Evangelicals are so demoralized after their support of the Bush Crime Family helped lead to two wars and economic collapse, that they are staying out of politics and embracing Environmentalism.

After being abused by the FOX and the Rovians, they felt so sullied by politics that they just want to take a shower and go clean up God's Good Earth.

Posted by: thebobbob | June 29, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

The GOP may lose Utah if Huckabee wins the nomination. Huckabee exudes an anti-Mormon aura.

Posted by: Daniel84 | June 29, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

If Huckabee were to win the Republican nomination, the Democrats should make a push to win Utah. I lived in Utah during the 2008 campaign and I know a ton of Mormons who would much prefer Obama to Huckabee. Huckabee exudes anti-Mormoness.

Posted by: Daniel84 | June 29, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

I've enjoyed reading through all these comments. Those denigrating the republicans were specially noteworthy for their lack of acceptance of others. Isn't that what liberals are supposed to be able to do that conservatices can't?

In the end, it boils down to whether Huckabee will be a good candidate for president. The answer is that republicans could do a whole lot worse than him. The american people actually elected worse than him in the last presidential election. That has become obvious over the past months of the Obama administration.

Posted by: gfafblifr | June 29, 2010 11:06 AM | Report abuse

NO NO NO NO ! This is not who we need to represent the GOP.

WE WILL HAVE NO CHANCE WITH HUCKABEE..........

Posted by: kennethwaltrip | June 29, 2010 9:44 AM | Report abuse

NO NO NO NO ! This is not who we need to represent the GOP.

WE WILL HAVE NO CHANCE WITH HUCKABEE..........

Posted by: kennethwaltrip | June 29, 2010 9:44 AM | Report abuse

NO NO NO NO ! This is not who we need to represent the GOP.

WE WILL HAVE NO CHANCE WITH HUCKABEE..........

Posted by: kennethwaltrip | June 29, 2010 9:44 AM | Report abuse

Poor lonely Ped.

Posted by: Moonbat | June 29, 2010 8:30 AM | Report abuse

hey broadwayjoe - we got the joke. using "indian" and "curry" in the same post shows just how clever political commentators such as ourselves can be!

Posted by: shabbyreader | June 29, 2010 8:18 AM | Report abuse

Blade, you are intentionally misrepresenting the point here, which by the way has been raised by some in the Indian-American community, see, e.g., former New York Times writer Neela Banerjee's article posted (and linked) earlier and various Sikh and Asian web sites.

As you pretend not to understand, the issue isn't Americanized nicknames. Rather it is a Tea Party-sponsored candidate concealing their name and background to curry favor with a bigoted segment of their state's electorate. You will recall the Tea Party favors repealing the Civil Rights Act.

We recall it is you who often has seemed to quick defend "the "host" against legitimate questions (some raised inside PostWorld) about why he tolerates the bigotry expressed by the resident trolls, much of it directed at our First Black President. So it's hardly credible your complaint is based on concerns about bigotry. No one's buyin' that, pal.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 29, 2010 7:59 AM | Report abuse

@BB: I would save my breath with Brigade, he's coated with a thick layer of pure slime.  He writes deeply hurtful and vicious stuff because his intent is to cause hurt and express viciousness.  He fails of course, as he does under his other moniikers, not only because of the patent falsehood but also because the intensity of his viciousness ends up being so much more noticeable than the content.  Me a pedophile?  Nonsense.  Gays as pedophiles?  The data is clearly contrary; the population of pedophiles is more heterosexual than the general population.

Re: Joe: he lays it on too thick but the irony of someone with a "r**head" name seeking votes from the sort of junk who refer to people by that despicable epithet is simply deliciously ironic.  Joe is spot on that running under her real name she wouldn't get anywhere with that demographic, and just as some in her own party refer to her that way, so would her electorate.  It's almost as good as NCPAC founder Terry Dolan raising millions on homophobia just before he died of AIDS.

OK, as promised.  The reason that homosexuality doesn't die out by reproductive attrition could not be more obvious to anyone lest that someone is as much an idiot as Brigade.  For ~5% of the population to be homosexual is fundamental to the definition of humanity and can no more be bred out than we can start being born with both arms on one side.  It is deeply and firmly established in the genome.  The fact that some societies, apparently originating with nomadic Sephardics, cannot force it away by discrimination shows that is it not something passed around in some families but not others, like alcoholism.

The origin?  Probably the hundreds of thousands of years we spent as hunter-gatherers, when there was obviously an advantage (that's right Brigade A-D-V-A-N-T-A-G-E, so S*CK IT UP) to having some males not reproducing, or not joining the hunt.    I'm speculating in this paragraph but not in the last one.

And while homosexuality is clearly not linked to a single gene or to a gene cluster, the disposition is probably expressed in the uterine environment.

The facts are available to all of us, anyone capable of reason could figure it out.  That obviously excludes Brigade, who has shown himself to have the maturity of the sort of sixth grader who sees a shrink twice a week.

Dunno what to do about 37th.  I refuse to believe that keeping someone away is such a challenge, clearly the will is lacking and CC has shown great reluctance to ban anyone posting from the right, however much a nuisance.  The "Ped" stuff has gone on over a year.  I will draw my own conclusions and they don't reflect well on Cillizza.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 29, 2010 2:04 AM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe


Are you joining the boycott tomorrow ?

Posted by: Heatwave | June 29, 2010 12:46 AM | Report abuse

Brigade - It's not banter. As someone who has a gay person very close to him, your comments are hurtful. Gay = pedofile is the ugliest of stereotypes. Be decent and condemn it, not wink wink nudge nudge it.

Joe - Your posts are right up there with Jake's insistence on capitalizing the president's middle name. Having Indian friends through grad school, an Americanized nickname is par for the course. You've bought in to the ugliest of impulses. Don't know why you think you're proving a point. Other than that liberals can be bigots too.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | June 29, 2010 12:20 AM | Report abuse

Motto of "Fix" blog-spammers:

"We never forget who we're working for."

Posted by: scrivener50 | June 28, 2010 11:57 PM | Report abuse

Uh, sadly and convincingly, Huckabee may be right.

Has anyone REALLY considered the GOP alternatives?

Posted by: free-donny | June 28, 2010 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Any one still using the word 'teleprompter' in a post - has already lost their argument.

Never underestimate the power of RUSHFARTS.

Posted by: charlesalmon | June 28, 2010 11:00 PM | Report abuse

Palin's political career ended when she quit the governship of Alaska.

Why are some posters here recommending this uninformed, barely literate grifter as a running mate?

YOU can't be that stupid.

Posted by: charlesalmon | June 28, 2010 10:57 PM | Report abuse


"
Ped, I thought you were insiting that everyone ignore Brigade/zouk, same entity right?"

I told you, that's all I'm saying.

Posted by: drindl | June 28, 2010 10:33 PM | Report abuse

Huckabee can't win and if he picks Palin as his running mate the President will win in a landslide.

Posted by: CMAN27 | June 28, 2010 10:20 PM | Report abuse

Huckabee can't win and if he picks Palin as his running mate the President will win in a landslide.

Posted by: CMAN27 | June 28, 2010 10:20 PM | Report abuse

You know full well this isn't about someone having an Americanized nickname. It's about someone trying to deceive "ultraconservative" SC voters about their background. And if you Google her real name, you'll get numerous search results reflecting it IS a major (and growing) campaign issue; if it weren't, she would have campaigned as Nimrata.
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Read the article, "Nikki, aka Nimrata," about Mrs. Randhawa by former New York Times writer Neela Banerjee.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 28, 2010 9:23 PM | Report abuse

Blade, you are missing the point. Much of the concern about Nimrata Kaur Randhawa's name game in the campaign comes from the Indian-American community and the SC voters, particularly the religious community. They feel Nim is trying to run a big con and they don't like being made a fool of.
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Here's an excerpt from veteran Indian-American journalist Neela Banerjee's well regarded expose of Mrs. Nimrata Kaur Randhawa titled "Nikki, Aka Nimrata."

Mrs. Banerjee used to work for the New York Times.

"Some South Asians, probably those of a different political stripe than Haley and Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, have gone after them as sell-outs for having Anglo names, and after Haley, in particular, for being fair-skinned enough to pass for an ethnic white. Haley's Web site says that Nikki is her middle name. But in the desi community, we all know that we have our "good names" and our "house" names. Very few people are called by their "good name" at home, even if your name is short, like Neela. And no, I ain't about to tell you my house name. Nikki could very well be the house name for "Nimrata," her given name, or, truly, her middle name. She chucked her maiden name when she entered politics because she said it didn't fit onto a yard sign. (She did give her kids Indian names, though.) And Punjabis like Haley are often lighter-skinned than the world's notion of what Indian looks like. That said, recent South Asian candidates in the South have said openly that it helps to mask an "ethnic-sounding" name if you want to get elected.

What I find more fascinating than the politics of her name is the role of Christianity in her life and her campaign—and in Jindal's, too. There are millions of South Asian Christians, since empire doesn't come without the church on its heels. But Haley was raised Sikh and is now Methodist. Jindal was raised Hindu, converted to Christianity in high school, and is now a devout Roman Catholic. Sepia Mutiny has a great June 4 post about how Jindal speaks a great deal about his conversion experience, yet Haley doesnt, mainly because Jindal might see it as a way to diminish his "otherness" in the eyes of voters, while for Haley, who basically comes across as white, talking about her coming to Christ would accentuate her otherness."

http://www.doublex.com/blog/xxfactor/nikki-aka-nimrata
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Many hope Mrs. Banerjee continues her coverage of this major campaign issue.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 28, 2010 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Huckabee is as much a joke as a presidential nominee as Palin. Democrats who support Obama for reelection should pray each day for a "dream" Huckabee-Palin or Palin-Huckabee ticket.

Let's see, Huckabee or Palin could win a maximum of forty percent of popular vote and maybe a hundred electoral votes. The GOP would be reduced to less than forty Senators and about one hundred sixty Representatives.

Posted by: Aprogressiveindependent | June 28, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

But pedophilia doesn't impair reproduction, briggy.. In fact, pedophiles are even more heterosexual than the general population.

You can bluster and snark and sneer but the fact of the matter is that you can't figure out why homosexuals haven't died out. And it's not that complicated. You don't need to read anything, it's easy to figure out, or it would be if you weren't an idiot.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 28, 2010 8:56 PM | Report abuse

As is your cosigning of Zouk's homophobia.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | June 28, 2010 8:45 PM
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I think you're pushing the envelope. I'm not gay, but I hold no animus at all against those who are. A little banter never hurt anyone.

Posted by: Brigade | June 28, 2010 8:55 PM | Report abuse

"The Republican ticket in 2012 will be Haley Barbour and Mitch Daniels"
I agree 100%. Barbour embodies the soul and the voice of the GOP. I have no doubt of his choice since he is the ultimate GOP insider and that is what the GOP traditionally does with Ford, George H Bush , Nixon, Bob Dole, and John McCain, that Barbour will be the surprise GOP 2012 nominee. Just look at the history of their choice of POTUS nominees over the last 50 years.

Posted by: leichtman1 | June 28, 2010 8:39 PM |
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Frankly, I hope you're right. Barbour isn't the most charismatic guy in the room, but he's definitely up to the job.

Posted by: Brigade | June 28, 2010 8:47 PM | Report abuse

I realize that you're being deliberately obtuse, brigade, but my point was regarding spamming the blog. Having had multiple friends from Korea or India who had Americanized nicknames, there's nothing wrong with that. And joe's obsession with pointing that out is offensive. Perhaps it's a reaction to Jake's obsession with the president's middle name. It's still wrong. As is your cosigning of Zouk's homophobia.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | June 28, 2010 8:45 PM | Report abuse

Noacoler wrote,
"Hint; we've survived even the most intolerant societies. How could that be?"

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Hint: pedophiles have survived intolerant societies as well. By their own admissions, they do not choose to be that way, they simply were born with a loose screw. Do you have a larger point to make, or is this about it?

Posted by: Brigade | June 28, 2010 8:43 PM | Report abuse

"The Republican ticket in 2012 will be Haley Barbour and Mitch Daniels"
I agree 100%. Barbour embodies the soul and the voice of the GOP. I have no doubt of his choice since he is the ultimate GOP insider and that is what the GOP traditionally does with Ford, George H Bush , Nixon, Bob Dole, and John McCain, that Barbour will be the surprise GOP 2012 nominee. Just look at the history of their choice of POTUS nominees over the last 50 years.

Posted by: leichtman1 | June 28, 2010 8:39 PM | Report abuse

This isn't genetics 101 but it's not 404 either. If you had spent a minute you could have avoided making a fool of yourself - but perhaps you are genetically inclined to fooldom.

Posted by: djah | June 28, 2010 8:27 PM
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I'm afraid you're the fool. If you'd bothered to read the article you linked to, you'd realize this is a theory and not a fact. There are many good points about natural selection, some that are pure guesswork, and some that amount to holes in the theory. But it's not my mission to educate morons on the difference between an educated guess and an actual explanation.

Posted by: Brigade | June 28, 2010 8:38 PM | Report abuse

Uhhh survival of the fittest ... Al gore .. Uhh ...furrowing your brow ridge?

Posted by: Noacoler | June 28, 2010 8:37 PM | Report abuse

New Posters:

Please be aware that on this blog a certain poster known as neocolor (aka the Ped) handles all topics and subject matter. Do not fear, there are only three that she ever chooses:

1. Vietnam
2. men on men sexual escapades
3. she's right, you're wrong

If the Ped still has her face down in a pillow, drivl will handle all content. this is more of a random fashion, closely mirroring Kos of Huff in it's topic of the hour rants. (in fact an exact copy).

Please comply or be insulted and demanded to be banned.

Over and out.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 28, 2010 8:35 PM | Report abuse

You're not even getting warm, briggy.

Hint; we've survived even the most intolerant societies. How could that be?

Maybe you're not the genius you think you are

Posted by: Noacoler | June 28, 2010 8:30 PM | Report abuse

BRIGADE--

Read this or look at one of the hundreds of peer-reviewed article son inheritability of homosexuality.
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-human-beast/200906/could-homosexual-genes-be-naturally-selected

This isn't genetics 101 but it's not 404 either. If you had spent a minute you could have avoided making a fool of yourself - but perhaps you are genetically inclined to fooldom.

Posted by: djah | June 28, 2010 8:27 PM | Report abuse

brig-ade, remember what your hero Dan Quayle said to you and his other followers, "It's a terrible thing to lose your mind."

All the best.
___________________

@ IT Guy: we'll pay time and a half for overtime.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 28, 2010 8:26 PM | Report abuse

I'll post the explanation tonight after giving brigade a chance to give a solid display of ignorance.

Come on briggy you're so smart,why haven't we dies out?

Posted by: Noacoler | June 28, 2010 8:20 PM | Report abuse

Ped, I thought you were insiting that everyone ignore Brigade/zouk, same entity right?

Are you so pitifully low on friends that your only human contact exists as a constant bickering war with people who despise your ignorant ways?

Interesting head case, Ped.

when will you seek the help you desperately need. If you hurry up and move to Vietnammy, the local witch doctor will treat you for next to nothing. I am sure you are concerned with the price, knowing your situation as we all do. and it's not like he could mess you up any further.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 28, 2010 8:20 PM | Report abuse

What a JOKE!
Well, let's look at the POSITIVE factors:
1) He is not a TRUE CHRISTIAN and not a Mormon.
2) He can play the bass guitar pretty well.
3) He has GREAT NAME recognition (although many confuse him with Huckleberry Fin).
4) He works for Fox News and that AUTOMATICALLY will get him close to 24% of the Republican and Indendant vote.

Face it Mike, you have a great gig at Fox and you should count your blessings for what you have.

The problem that Republicans face is that there MOST ELECTABLE elder stateman (Ron Paul) is a bit of a rogue and not easily controlled and espouses a RADICAL agenda (the republican platform) and believes in archaic old documents (the constitution and the bible) at face vale.

I truly HOPE that the right wing neo-conservatives elect someone unelectable like Gov. Huckabee or, even better, Newt Gingrich so that the progressives can continue on their way to a socialized America so that people may start taking true conservatives and libertarians seriously next time.
I like Mike and wish him the best...

Posted by: costaricanet | June 28, 2010 8:20 PM | Report abuse

Digging up old baggage like Huckabee is probably not on the Republicans agenda.(I hope) The liberal media is campaign mode and trying to create it's usual media hyped "can't win" Republican candidates to run against Obama again, won't work this time.

Posted by: jjoyce6018 | June 28, 2010 8:20 PM | Report abuse

Hint: why do some other traits persist? Reproductively neutral ones?

Face the fact that you have a mediocre mind.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 28, 2010 8:07 PM
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I can't think of too many conceivable environments in which the "gayness gene" might become selectively advantageous. It might come in handy in prison, but that's only survival of one generation. Do you think there were ever gay trilobites?

Posted by: Brigade | June 28, 2010 8:19 PM | Report abuse

Brigade, he got that last one from a very reliable source. a guy in the hot tub at the gym. another guy in the shower corroberated it.

did I mention the gym is air-conditioned?

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 28, 2010 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Can't understand why posters call you a racist? Hate is not a family value.


Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 28, 2010 8:01 PM
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No one has. Are you going to be the first?

Posted by: Brigade | June 28, 2010 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Well brigade since we reprouce so much less, we should have died out hundreds of generations ago, right? But here we are as always, regardless of cultural tolerance, century after century.

I don't expect a half-educated redneck to be able to figure it out.

Hint: why do some other traits persist? Reproductively neutral ones?

Face the fact that you have a mediocre mind.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 28, 2010 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Noacoler wrote,
"The percentage of gays in the population has remained remarkably constant across time and culture since the earliest written records. I'm fully educated and I understand why."
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Oh, and that one sent the ole B.S. meter buzzing. Could you give us the source of your information across time and culture "since the earliest written records" and some reliable documentation. I'm especially interested in the history of gays in the population of Muslim countries across the vast sweep of history.


Posted by: Brigade | June 28, 2010 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Let's see you take a crack at it with your GED-level understanding of genetics.

(pause)

didn't think you could.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 28, 2010 7:50 PM
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Mutation? Abnormality? I hope you aren't going to imply there's a selective advantage?

Posted by: Brigade | June 28, 2010 8:02 PM | Report abuse

"With his law degree, Obama, at best comes off like Calhoun on the old Amos and Andy show. Right?

Posted by: Brigade | June 28, 2010 7:55 PM"
__________________

Can't understand why posters call you a racist? Hate is not a family value.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 28, 2010 8:01 PM | Report abuse

The percentage of gays in the population has remained remarkably constant across time and culture since the earliest written records

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Ped has access to the very first written scrolls, whereby a certain cave dweller took the opportunity to count and record the number of homosexuals in the population. then he stopped to draw some deer on the wall.

As with all Ped posts, this is pure BS.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 28, 2010 8:01 PM | Report abuse

How many posts do you think we need to see about [Mrs. Nimrata Kaur Randhawa]'s name before we get the message?

Posted by: Brigade | June 28, 2010 7:53 PM
________________

Let's at least get her name right...

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 28, 2010 7:59 PM | Report abuse

She STILL picks Grover and every puppeteer with a political bent has a Sarah and Grover (Blue furry, speaks strangely and still is more articulate than Sarah) routine up and running on you tube.

Even now I hear gropver expounding on economics. "Its ME, SUPER GROVER, the economic leader, up uP UP and away, [clang} (strikes lamp post)."

Posted by: ceflynline | June 28, 2010 7:35 PM
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Two questions: are you related to Noacoler? Did your mother have any children who lived?

Posted by: Brigade | June 28, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Ped is back to "I'm right and everyone knows it."

I am sure that endears her to everyone, and I mean EVERYONE at the local juice bar.

gross.

Hence the name.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 28, 2010 7:56 PM | Report abuse

At best Huck comes across as the host of one of those country and western shows from the 1950s who would introduce Patsy Cline and Porter Wagoner. LOL.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 28, 2010 7:29 PM
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With his law degree, Obama, at best comes off like Calhoun on the old Amos and Andy show. Right?

Posted by: Brigade | June 28, 2010 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Is it any wonder that the democrats are four points ahead in the ratings. Have the Republicans become a hybrid of the party system. Are they softer republicans or wolves in sheep’s clothing. There are democrats that became republicans. There are the most liberal of republicans. There are also private interests and conflicts of interests. Why don't the republicans return to the ideals of governing our nation and become Constitution lovers once more. I suppose that applies to the democrats as well. There are a lot of young voters who speak of Franklin D Roosevelt. What does that mean in our times? After the mortgage debacle, are we to wish for the end of Republicanism and compulsively cast our votes for the democrat nominee? Since Bill Clinton's appointment of Henry Cisneros to HUD there has been a trend in profiteering through the mortgages of tens of thousands of new homes. Was it a coincidence that the mortgage debacle happened before Mr. Obama was inaugurated? Yet, republicans like Meg Whitman, Arnold, and Senator Maldonado just can't hold a candle to what a republican really ought to uphold, for example, to protect the state of Arizona with the SB1070 that was necessary for security and peacekeeping. That would befit a true conservative and lean toward our Bill of Rights in such matters as security and protection.

Posted by: byetheway77 | June 28, 2010 7:53 PM | Report abuse

FairlingtonBlade wrote,
"if ...Broadwayjoe engaged in the same behavior, I'd argue for banning as well."

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What do you mean "if"? How many posts do you think we need to see about Nikki Haley's name before we get the message?

Posted by: Brigade | June 28, 2010 7:53 PM | Report abuse

And isn't that exactly what he's back to doing?

Posted by: Noacoler | June 28, 2010 7:46 PM
________________

Seems so.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 28, 2010 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Baghdad BJ finally recognizes Ped's hateful ranting, but only when reposted by Brigade, I mean the other me. Like all the rest of the 80% of the population that is the other me and is no longer fooled in the least by the Obungler regime.

Drivl still can't figure out all the voices in her own head. this post will probably explode her cranium.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 28, 2010 7:52 PM | Report abuse

What is the selective advantage of being gay? Have you heard of population genetics? If a group of gays, 100 male and 100 female, were somehow isolated from the main population, what would the size of that group be after, say 500 years, and would any survivors be genetically isolated from the main population should they reunite.

==

You exhibit the shabby understanding of genetics typical of half-educated Americans.

The percentage of gays in the population has remained remarkably constant across time and culture since the earliest written records. I'm fully educated and I understand why.

Let's see you take a crack at it with your GED-level understanding of genetics.

(pause)

didn't think you could.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 28, 2010 7:50 PM | Report abuse

Huckabee didn't win the nomination in 2008. Since then, he's hosted a TV show and spoken to religious groups, but he's stayed out of politics. He's less qualified in 2012 than in 2008, because he's 4 years further away from the experience that makes him a legitimate candidate for president.

Then again, lack of recent experience might not be an obstacle in 2012. Romney also hasn't held elective office in the last 4 years, and he's running again. Nobody who votes for Palin cares about experience at all. Newt Gingrich is supposedly a top-tier candidate, and he hasn't held office in over a decade! So maybe the Republicans don't care about experience, and Huckabee has a chance after all.

Posted by: Blarg | June 28, 2010 3:10 PM
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You overlook the fact that Obama was the most wanting in "the experience that makes him a legitimate candidate for president" of anyone elected president in over 100 years. Did that stop you from voting for him?

We're certainly paying the price now. Not only did he lack the requisite experience for the job, he has proven to be grossly incompetent. I would think you'd be a little embarrased to raise this as an issue since any of the people you mentioned could doubtless put Obama in the shade when it comes to governing, if not necessarily campaigning.

Posted by: Brigade | June 28, 2010 7:48 PM | Report abuse

The main point is to prevent an individual from spamming the blog. ... It was flooding the blog and repeated abuse of other posters.

==

And isn't that exactly what he's back to doing?

Posted by: Noacoler | June 28, 2010 7:46 PM | Report abuse

That 7:42pm hate blast from brig-ade measured "10" on the Richter scale. A Fix record. Previous record held by dianne72.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 28, 2010 7:46 PM | Report abuse

Huckabee could be exactly right, he is the best the Republicans have to offer. That is a sad state of affairs. From the Barney Fife of the Gulf to Secessionist Perry to I Heart BP Barbour the field is thin and laughable. Being the best clown in the circus still means you are a clown. As much as the haters want to believe that Obama will not be re-elected they have no credible candidate that the moderate middle can embrace.

Posted by: merrylees | June 28, 2010 7:45 PM | Report abuse

At best, Barbour/Daniels win the Confederate States plus Indiana and that's it.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 28, 2010 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Some more of Noacoler's typical contributions:
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Noacoler at 3:12pm
"The moderators can be reached at wpni-comments@washingtonpost.com.

You should give them the thread link and the post time as well as the moniker of the offender. The trolls will of course send mail of their own but won't be able to back their assertions with actual posts and offenses."

Noacoler is troll number one. Let's start with him.
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Noacoler at 3:21,
"Zouk is a bully, judging by the acreage of the chip on his shoulder he's probably between 5'1" and 5'2" tall and has a penis smaller than his thumb."

This is Noacoler projecting his own inadequacies on someone else. His mind is always focused on a particular part of the male anatomy.
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Noacoler at 4:25 pm,
"It's worth noting that there are states in this country where admitting a belief in evolution guarantees defeat,

Maybe we deserve to decline. Or if not we should just allow the red states to split off, but the stench from all that rotting flesh would be pretty bad for a year or so."

Pull your pants up and close your mouth and that rotting stench will dissipate. Wipe off any white stuff dripping from your chin.
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Noacoler at 4:47pm
" . . .substantial majorities consider what gays do in bed to be none of their business. Social conservatives are living fossils."

Tell us, just what do gays do in bed? You obsess about this all the time. And since you mentioned evolution in the 4:25 post and living fossils in this one, tell us how gays have avoided becoming victims of Darwinism. What is the selective advantage of being gay? Have you heard of population genetics? If a group of gays, 100 male and 100 female, were somehow isolated from the main population, what would the size of that group be after, say 500 years, and would any survivors be genetically isolated from the main population should they reunite. Just wondering.

Posted by: Brigade | June 28, 2010 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Update to previous HELP WANTED:

Free parking. Free internet access. Free Movie Channel and HBO. $50 gift certificate for Dennys.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 28, 2010 7:38 PM | Report abuse

The Republican ticket in 2012 will be Haley Barbour and Mitch Daniels, and it will lose to Obama-Biden, 50.7% to 47.1% and by 49 electoral votes.

Posted by: bluejay31 | June 28, 2010 7:37 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, I forgot the possibility of Jeb and Cronyn. Nobody gets more than 12 % except Sarah and the nomination is hers in a landslide, (winner take all and all that) She STILL picks Grover and every puppeteer with a political bent has a Sarah and Grover (Blue furry, speaks strangely and still is more articulate than Sarah) routine up and running on you tube.

Even now I hear gropver expounding on economics. "Its ME, SUPER GROVER, the economic leader, up uP UP and away, [clang} (strikes lamp post)."

Posted by: ceflynline | June 28, 2010 7:35 PM | Report abuse


Bill Clintons a pickin and Huckabee is a grinnin.... Waaaa Hoooooo


Posted by: 2010Rout | June 28, 2010 7:32 PM | Report abuse

"The strength of Huckabee's personality -- and the authenticity he exudes -- should not be underestimated.
____________

This is a snark, right? You don't really believe this. At best Huck comes across as the host of one of those country and western shows from the 1950s who would introduce Patsy Cline and Porter Wagoner. LOL.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 28, 2010 7:29 PM | Report abuse

Hey moderators this "Neocolor" guy has already been banned under numerous other monikers, starting with "chrisfox8" and since then "goldnadtanzanite" and about six others And now you're protecting him?

Great priorities you have.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 28, 2010 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Overhead in the Oval Office:

VP: Mr. President. Mike Huckabee has just secured the votes to win the Republican nomination.

Prez: Yeah, they say two thousand zero zero party over
Oops out of time
So tonight I'm gonna party like it's 1999
Yeah

Note to various individuals. That F37th was going to attempt to return to the blog under different identities was a given. It's like nobody around here ever heard of dynamic IP addressing. With Zouk on his 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th and 9th identities and Chris F on his 5th, it's not like this is a new phenomenon. My personal preference is for how TrueSlant handles matters

The main point is to prevent an individual from spamming the blog. If Marie Wilson or Broadwayjoe engaged in the same behavior, I'd argue for banning as well. [Only an example, folks. XOXOX.] I couldn't care less if Hoya put up a few posts a day akin to Scriv. It was flooding the blog and repeated abuse of other posters.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | June 28, 2010 7:25 PM | Report abuse


Huckabee is McCain-Lite... Just another Dem running in the wrong race... He is not a conservative... Might as well nominate Al "Sex Crazed Poodle" Gore...

Dont worry libs, we have time... One thing is for certain, Obama will not get a second term after his absolute failure in the first 18 months of his one and only term..

You can admit it libs... you know it is true.. You elected a patsy to the White House.... Hows that Hope and Change working for you?? HA HA HA HA HA HA....

Posted by: 2010Rout | June 28, 2010 7:11 PM | Report abuse

Let's see how the field is lining up for the Repubs, Huckabee, Palin, Romney and Rudy G.. That sort of looks like the three stooges and a cheerleader, you betcha!

Posted by: ronjeske | June 28, 2010 7:09 PM | Report abuse

Face it, Phalin is the best BHO's opposition has for 2012 and the Marist polling says she'll lose by 23 points. Huck's not remotely competitive against BHO except probably in Rasmussen polls.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 28, 2010 6:59 PM | Report abuse

HELP WANTED

IT professional with the minimal skill level necessary to enforce previously imposed ban on one unhinged robo-troll, 37/heatwave, from blog. Salary and benefits negotiable.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 28, 2010 6:56 PM | Report abuse

that "personal down home charm" is gonna wear out real fast.

Fine with me if the social conservatives want to finish off the GOP. Let them.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 28, 2010 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Sorry Huck but when you hooked up with Faux News we lost all of our faith in you. For 8 years they lied for the corrupt Bush Adm. and now for almost 2 years they lie every day about the Obama Adm. Hannity lies when the truth is easier and Glen Beck has went completely out of his mind since he goined the "GESTAPO". You may be the most honest repub running for your party but like I say we lost faith in you.

Posted by: SWAMPYPD | June 28, 2010 6:40 PM | Report abuse

"Sotomeyer has been firmly in the liberal block of the Supreme Court all year"

Fine. The liberals have a block. The conservatives have a whole street.

Posted by: mattintx | June 28, 2010 6:37 PM | Report abuse

He'll have to pry that nomination out of the hands of . . . wait for it . . . John Cornyn.

Posted by: mattintx | June 28, 2010 6:35 PM | Report abuse

Hunka baby is a straight shooter. He has no qualms saying he is just about how good the GOP gets.

Posted by: kishorgala | June 28, 2010 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Five Reasons why Governor Mike Huckabee will WIN the 2012 Presidential Nomination:

5. Republican establishment can't afford another Presidential loss, they will immediately back Huckabee right after his 2012 win in Iowa.

4. Republican establishment backed Main Street Ronald Reagan after he tapped establishment George Bush Senior for VP. Huckabee could tap Jeb Bush Jr. for VP.

3. The Republican establishment can't back others as they don't have name recognition nor do they have long tenure governing experience such as Huckabee.

2. Primaries are decided by Social Conservatives and Independants. Both groups that Huckabee does exceptionally well with on 2012 polls.

1. To inch out Obama in 2012, the Republican candidate must have superior communication skills in debates. Only Huckabee has that unique ability coupled with his quick Ronald Regan witty humor and personal down home charm.

Mike Huckabee will capture the Presidency in 2012 as Reagan did in 1980, the odds are stacked heavily in his favor. Those on the financial right who try to take over the ship in these times of economic turmoil and tea party energy need to back Huckabee now, otherwise they will be known as the ones who brought down the Republican ship for good.

Posted by: vote4mikehuckabee | June 28, 2010 6:20 PM | Report abuse

Can you say ....


JEB BUSH?????

Posted by: wheeljc | June 28, 2010 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Rick Perry as their nominee? How about a discussion whether Gov Perry can even survive his current campaign for Governor? He is struggling mightily against a mayor virtually unknown outside his home town. Oh, I forgot.
At this site if you are a R candidate it
is automatically presumed that you will win your next election. Apparently we need to get with the WP program here.

Posted by: leichtman1 | June 28, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

"He was one of the presidential candidates who refused to raise his hand at the question of "Do you believe in Evolution"? So NO. He's got an ice cubes chance in hell of becoming the republican candidate. Since that performance he has compared gay sex to bestiality and incest thereby showing an inability to understand the laws of consent. Huckabee is a redneck. He will never rise above it. Posted by: Madest"

Whose hell, Dante's or Tibetan Buddhists?

But he just hasn't the Divine Miss P's ability to arouse all the wrong hormones in the Republican Right, and the game is rigged in her favor as long as she keeps the 16 year old male mentality on the right satisfied. She has the one requisite quality, 20% of conservatives will; back her unquestioningly and vote when called for. Huck getting into the fray just makes her nomination all that more likely because he give any anti Sarah conservative another non entity to go haring after. If the field starts out Newt, Mitt, TP, Huck, Good Hair, Sarah, and anybody else the first six split 80% of the vote mostly evenly , and no-one but Sarah gets above 18%.

Winner Take all and Sarah gets to pick her VP.

Mebbe she picks Grover and the entertainment begins.

Posted by: ceflynline | June 28, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Hey moderators this "Heatwave" guy has already been banned under numerous other monikers, starting with "37thand0street" and since then "Sunshing" and about six others And now you're protecting him?

Great priorities you have.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 28, 2010 5:53 PM | Report abuse

only looney Rs would think that god is a conservative or for that matter that god would give a lick about politics. what a totally idiotic and balsphemous statement to make as well as being another crude recognition of the life and service of Senator Byrd. Sen Byrd served the US Senate with dignity and intelligence for 52 years and the only thing you have to offer us that he must have timed his death to help conservatives. Truly Pathetic.

Will Huckabee be the R nominee in 2012? Don't know/Don't care. Everey week the lead story is:
will Thune be their nominee, how about Barbour,
how about Romney, or Huckabee and on and on
ad nausea. These stories are becoming totally
lame, can't you guys come up with something better to discuss?

Posted by: leichtman1 | June 28, 2010 5:51 PM | Report abuse

Obama likes to compare himself to previous Presidents


At this point he should be saying he is the next Lyndon Johnson - stuck in a quagmire.

Obama has chosen the wrong military strategy - one that shows little respect for those who have already given their lives in Afghanstan.


Obama has no choice but to abandon his July 2011 draw-down pronouncement. It is horrible and naive military strategy.

Al Queda is sitting in Pakistan waiting to come back to Afghanistan.

That will be Obama's legacy - losing a war.


.

Posted by: Heatwave | June 28, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

That's a joke, right?

Palin can't even spell Constitution.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 28, 2010 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Chris, you shouldn't drink and blog.

Mike Huckabee will never be president, He will never be the nominee,he's the Republican version of Obama, a BIG GOVERNMENT Nanny Stater.

The CATO institute rated him an "F" as a governor.

We need common sense Constitutional Conservatives, someone who actually has read the Constitution, understands it, knows it's the supreme law of the land, and believes in the Rule of Law.

That means only one person, Sarah Palin.

We need a leader, not a politician. Sarah Palin is a true leader.

Huckabee needs to keep his show that no one watches.

Posted by: gary4205 | June 28, 2010 4:59 PM | Report abuse

@seanc: for the majority of people Huck's hick charm would get old real fast. It was wearing thin in 2008.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 28, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Of the people most frequently mentioned for the nomination, he's the one I'd be the most concerned about. He's extremely conservative, and holds a number of positions that would be untenable in the middle, but he's got plenty of charisma to cover that up, and unlike the similarly conservative Palin he doesn't come across as a dummy. The more moderate Romney isn't exciting, and will be a very hard sell with many evangelical voters. Plus, Huckabee's demonstrated a familiarity and ease with the entertainment media that none of the others have.

Posted by: SeanC1 | June 28, 2010 4:49 PM | Report abuse

@DDAWD: social wedge issues are a luxury if prosperous times. And even were the economy going swimmingly -- and the return of deficit concerns is assuring that it won't -- substantial majorities consider what gays do in bed to be none of their business. Social conservatives are living fossils. Huckabee's appeal is as contemporary as typewrites and telegrams.

Republicans' only hope is mass amnesia, which isn't all that far-fetched.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 28, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Kagan today said she favored a "modest" role for the Supreme Court - sure sounds like Sotomeyer claiming she was a moderate at her confirmation hearings.

Well - at this point the only thing a real American can do IS CALL THEM BOTH LIARS.


Seriously folks - Sotomeyer has been firmly in the liberal block of the Supreme Court all year - with absolutely no hint of moderation.


This is a complete joke.

Kagan is lying - and it falls directly into a pattern - Obama and the liberals believe they have to LIE to get anything through - any of their people in. This is their approach.

Instead of confirmation, Kagan should be up for Perjury in front of Congress.

Sad but true. Kagan should be honest about her leftist leanings - and tell the Senate EXACTLY WHERE SHE STANDS ON THE ISSUES.


The American People deserve nothing less.


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Posted by: Heatwave | June 28, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

At this point, the GOP could nominate a turtle and win in 2012. After all the "yes we can......'t" witnessed over the past year and a half, a guy like Huckabee might just be what we need.

Posted by: clctcoins | June 28, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

I had speculated that when Huckabee came out with that statement on gay people adopting kids and something about it being like adopting puppies, that it would end his Presidential aspirations. Anyone agree?

Posted by: DDAWD | June 28, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Ddawd


You are democrat - and you are hoping for the worst possible candidate for the Republicans to run in 2012


That is because you have an undying love for Obama - and you refuse to say that Obama has done anything wrong - or agree that any of his policies are horrible for this nation.

That is what makes you the most short-sighted, ignorant person on this board.

You don't care at all about what is good for this nation -

It is sad that you constantly come on this board with your desire to be deceptive -


and then you seem extremely invested in silencing all opposition to your fantasty about Obama.

Your views are unAmerican - and extremely harmful to this country.


.

Posted by: Heatwave | June 28, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

It's worth noting that there are states in this country where admitting a belief in evolution guarantees defeat,

Maybe we deserve to decline. Or if not we should just allow the red states to split off, but the stench from all that rotting flesh would be pretty bad for a year or so.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 28, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

He was one of the presidential candidates who refused to raise his hand at the question of "Do you believe in Evolution"? So NO. He's got an ice cubes chance in hell of becoming the republican candidate. Since that performance he has compared gay sex to bestiality and incest thereby showing an inability to understand the laws of consent. Huckabee is a redneck. He will never rise above it.

Posted by: madest | June 28, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Obviously things will be different in two years, but if he had to take clues from what's going on today.

Tea Party and economics seems to have taken a forefront in the Republican agenda. It's a logical foot to put forward. The economy stinks and people aren't going to be worried about da gheys when they are out of jobs. It was an issue that helped Obama in 2008 and might help the Republicans in 2012.

Secondly, I think the social issues will be the hardest area in which to draw a contrast from Obama. He has strayed away from gay rights issues, abortion hasn't really come up, perhaps he's a bit weak on stem cells, and guns have been a non-issue. I don't see how anyone can run a credible campaign against Obama based on these issues. Sure Republicans can round up their normal bunch of loonies, but without evoking much passion, that can only go so far given Obama's inactivity on these fronts.

TARP, stimulus, CapnTrade, AffCare, jobs, deficits are all issues in which it is easy for a Republican to clash with Obama.

Romney may or may not be able to fit this niche. It depends on how well he can navigate around questions of the Massachusetts health care law. I'm not sure if that disqualifies him or not. If it does, I'm not sure who can fill that hole. Gingrich comes to mind, but he is very unpopular. Same with Palin. I'm not sure if Pawlenty can get people energized.

Hmm...maybe 2012 will turn out to be Huckabee's year.

Posted by: DDAWD | June 28, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Huckabee is a hick, to put it mildly:

'Former Gov. Mike Huckabee (R-AR) keeps insisting that the LGBT community coined the phrase "ick factor," which he recently used to describe same-sex relationships.

On Fox News Sunday yesterday, Huckabee argued that it's "disingenuous" that the gay community uses the phrase, and "somehow it's OK if they talk about it, but if someone else talks about it it's off bounds."

Huckabee had argued last week that the phrase "ick factor" was not his, citing writings by Martha Nussbaum and Joseph Erbentraut, a writer for Edge magazine. Nussbaum has since denied that she has ever used the phrase. "Mr. Huckabee has gotten bad information about my work and has completely turned its meaning upside down, imputing to me a position (that gays and lesbians are disgusting) that I criticize as childish and morally deficient," she said.

But that didn't stop Huckabee from continuing to defend his comments: "That phrase was not mine, it actually is a phrase that exists within the gay community."

It's a phrase that is in the dictionary, hillbilly. It 'exists' in every community.

Posted by: drindl | June 28, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Huckabee doesn't look favorable compared to ... two other guys who don't have a shot at it either.

Pawlenty? Romney? You're daydreaming. Romney has the authenticity of a car dealer in a one-employer town and Pawlenty couldn't give away ice in Arabia.

You and your damned Republicans, Cillizza.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 28, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Hell no!

Posted by: cholly85241 | June 28, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

. Huckabee is a clown and his folksy banter would get old a month into a campaign. And it's all he has.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

funny considering that the Teleprompter reader only made it six months before that tired hopey, changey, blamey schtick went south.

Of course if he had done ANYTHING elee of accomplishment in his entire public life, it might have been different.

I think we should at least be entitled to all his golf scores, considering what we have paid him to get better while the world falls apart.

But mr transparency ( or whatever his name really is) is all about a secret life well lived on your dime.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 28, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

More radical nutbag Sharron angle:

"On May 26, a few weeks after BP’s oil disaster began, U.S. Senate candidate Sharron Angle (R-NV) told a local media outlet that her solution to America’s energy policy would be to “deregulate” the oil industry.

While both conservatives and liberals agree that this catastrophe could have been prevented if BP had invested more in safety and if regulators had been more attentive, few, if any, have taken the extreme view at there is actually too much regulation on the oil industry.

However, last Wednesday, while appearing on the hate-filled website ResistNet’s Internet radio station, Angle reiterated her position and explained that if elected, she would ensure that “government isn’t over-regulating” the “oil and petroleum industry,” as well as the “mining industry.”
Angle attacked her opponent, Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV), for supporting the Mining in the Parks Act, a law that prohibits mining in National Parks."

•So she want to DEregulated the oil industry so more blowouts like LA happen

•She wants to DEregulate mining so more miners will be killed

•And she wants to see mining in national parks.

She really is insane.

So Angles

Posted by: drindl | June 28, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

You should go into another line of work, Cillizza. You're rudderles and over your head. Huckabee is a clown and his folksy banter would get old a month into a campaign. And it's all he has.

Go get a chauffeur's license.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 28, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Not too many days ago, a Southern Baptitst Minister informed his cult the KKKristians believe in the free market.
Only RepubliKKKans would be stupid enough to run HacKKKabee.

Posted by: bgreen2224 | June 28, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

The answer to Huckabee is no.


The Republicans need someone who can appeal to the social conservatives - yet be able to reach across the political spectrum.

The Republicans will win in 2012 - and take complete control of Congress - health care will be repealed.

The Republican economic plan will blast through the malaise of Obama.

The American People will abandon the democrats for at least three generations, considering the Obama Circus we see unfolding right now.

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Posted by: Heatwave | June 28, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Is God a conservative?

first he calls Teddy home to halt the health care trauma on the nation. (more likely sent him somewhere warm).

Now to reign in the finance sham, he brings Bobby Byrd back.

Interesting timing huh?

In byrd's case he made the deadline for a Repub in that seat by four days. although corrupt Libs will try to thwart that, of course.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 28, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

"Palin, Pawlenty, Romney & Huckabee? That’s all they got? Seriously? Laughable.

Posted by: BasicInstinct |"

You forgot Haley Barbour -- LOL. Really, that's all they got.


And one real fact -- Grover Norquist has HUGE influence in the R party. NO ONE he doesn't want is going anywhere.

You should know that, CC.

Posted by: drindl | June 28, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Huckabee didn't win the nomination in 2008. Since then, he's hosted a TV show and spoken to religious groups, but he's stayed out of politics. He's less qualified in 2012 than in 2008, because he's 4 years further away from the experience that makes him a legitimate candidate for president.

Then again, lack of recent experience might not be an obstacle in 2012. Romney also hasn't held elective office in the last 4 years, and he's running again. Nobody who votes for Palin cares about experience at all. Newt Gingrich is supposedly a top-tier candidate, and he hasn't held office in over a decade! So maybe the Republicans don't care about experience, and Huckabee has a chance after all.

Posted by: Blarg | June 28, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

I don't think anyone is permitted to challenge Obama in 2010.

Posted by: JakeD3 | June 28, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

God willing, NO!

Posted by: ktartiste | June 28, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

God willing, NO!

Posted by: ktartiste | June 28, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Palin, Pawlenty, Romney & Huckabee? That’s all they got? Seriously? Laughable.

Posted by: BasicInstinct | June 28, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Huckabee is just what the Tea Partiers need: an affable, down-home man of the people who cleverly sugar-coats his fundamentalist hard-right agenda with palatable populist platitudes. He plays a decent bass guitar and he knows how to make love to the camera. Part Father Coughlin, part Ronald Reagan. Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition...

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JOURNO EXPOSING U.S. MICROWAVE TORTURE SEES EVIDENCE THAT PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS BEEN TARGETED FOR RADIO FREQUENCY WEAPON 'ENTRAINMENT'

See Scrivener's comments to his article about Homeland fusion center cellular "torture towers."

http://nowpublic.com/world/u-s-silently-tortures-americans-cell-tower-microwaves
http://NowPublic.com/scrivener (lede articles and links therein)

Posted by: scrivener50 | June 28, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

mike huckabee is an immature bully who attacks all the other possible Repub contenders, Romney, Palin, Mitch Daniels, etc. huck's latest jab at palin with his outrageous joke he made on a Fox show about sarah palin doing lines of cocaine (after she stated her beliefs about less law-enforcement against pot smokers), shows how desperate this man is for attention and to try to take down others. Watch his "wonderful" humor at Palin's expense:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_XitNJOSGs&feature=player_embedded

Posted by: Shelbysez | June 28, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

oops, that should say: "challenge Obama in 2012".

Posted by: DrainYou | June 28, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

"Huckabee has an opportunity to build on what he accomplished in 2008. But, will he take it?"

No. As he learned in 2008, you can't win the Repub nomination solely with the evangelicals.

Posted by: bsimon1 | June 28, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

The big "ick factor" for me is the thought of any pasty white and doughy Republican, naked.

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/06/28/100628fa_fact_levy


The Repugs have no one who can seriously challenge Obama in 2010. The only one on the right who has any sort of following is Sarah the Quitter, and she won't run because running for president involves to much hard work.

Posted by: DrainYou | June 28, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Let see if I can say this in the strongest possible terms. No! No no no! No no no no no! NOOOOOOOOOOO! A billion times no!

Posted by: templetontherat1978 | June 28, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Nice and affable, like Hubert Humphrey

Posted by: JRM2 | June 28, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

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