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Palin's 2012 Two-Step

For those people who doubted whether the Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's (R) resignation decision yesterday was freighted with 2012 presidential implications, we present two pieces of evidence.

First, Palin released a statement on her Facebook page today that not only castigated the media for how they covered her announcement ("How sad that Washington and the media will never understand; it's about country," she wrote) but only sounded a distinctly presidential note.

Said Palin:

I am now looking ahead and how we can advance this country together with our values of less government intervention, greater energy independence, stronger national security, and much-needed fiscal restraint. I hope you will join me. Now is the time to rebuild and help our nation achieve greatness!

Those lines would fit almost perfectly into a stump speech in Iowa or New Hampshire -- two states you should expect to see Palin in sometime soon.

The second piece of evidence regarding Palin's national ambitions came later today when her private attorney -- Thomas Van Flein -- released a four-page statement seeking to quash rumors that the Alaska governor's decision to resign was motivated by ethics problems.

The document seeks to detail Palin's ties to the Wasilla Sports Complex and insists that neither she nor her husband, Todd, gained any sort of benefit from the building of the complex.

Van Flein also notes that those publishing "defamation" regarding the sports complex will be made to answer for those charges "in a court of law".

Palin is trying to do two things simultaneously with these twin announcements.

The Facebook message is on the positive track -- making clear she has plans and a vision for her future and the country's.

The letter from the lawyer has a different goal: to make clear to her detractors that she will not take what she takes to be false attacks laying down.

The broad message? Sarah Palin is here to stay -- whether you like it or not.

By Chris Cillizza  |  July 4, 2009; 9:18 PM ET
Categories:  Eye on 2012  
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Obama was a sitting senator when he campaigned for office, collecting a salary paid by us for not working. When he was elected he QUIT. Using the standard I read here Obama is a quitter also.
Oh yes, Hillary was a sitting Senator and she stopped working for a year plus and collected her salary.It seems then if democrats steal salary money it is ok, and when a republican resigns to resolve her issues then she's a quitter.Some of you people should ask for a tuition refund...or did the government pay your tuition?

Posted by: Mandrake2 | July 8, 2009 12:42 PM | Report abuse

QUIT HAPPENS!

Posted by: SisBoombah | July 8, 2009 2:56 AM | Report abuse

By 2012 the GOP will hope the voters have forgotten who the Lipstick was.

Posted by: SWAMPYPD | July 7, 2009 11:37 PM | Report abuse

No, it's not "nonsense", and I would not click my heels in glee if America were attacked.

Posted by: Lisa421 | July 7, 2009 5:27 PM | Report abuse

For the record, I'm actually hoping that America wakes up BEFORE lots of soldiers / citizens are killed by terrorists.

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Nonsense, you would click your heels in glee if America was attacked, and you'd be gibbering in excitement to lay the blame at his feet because we aren't pulling the fingernails out of captured Afghanis.

The fact that his predecessor invaded two Muslim countries and radicalized disinterested young men into committed anti-America AQ and Taliban members wouldn't enter into your judgment, now, would it.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 6, 2009 11:14 PM | Report abuse

She's a proven quitter. How dare anyone RESIGN from a governorship? 18 months to go in office!! She RESIGNED with a TWO WEEK NOTICE like she's Office Support Staff, or Sandwich Artist at Subway, or Movie Ticket Taker. She was ELECTED to FULFILL a 4 year term IN OFFICE. She doesn't take the help offered by her own party to become more knowledgeable. Just because her mouth is open doesn't mean she's saying something. It isn't the fault of the 'media' nor 'sexism' that puts the heat on her, it's her own arrogance, narcissism, and lack of substance that Americans see in her. Aside from being a quitter, she has cemented the undeniable fact that now she also has an unfulfilled elected track record. Just what office will she run for with that fiasco behind her? And, just which GOP candidate would truly want her to campaign for them with that fiasco attached to her? She was the GOP's cashcow and maybe they'll let her retain that position.

Posted by: btafmax4 | July 6, 2009 7:56 PM | Report abuse

For the record, I'm actually hoping that America wakes up BEFORE lots of soldiers / citizens are killed by terrorists.

Posted by: JakeD | July 6, 2009 6:11 PM | Report abuse

You must really have your nickers in a bunch because Obama remains in high approval territory.

No wonder you're hoping that a lot of soldiers get killed to make him "look bad."

What a loathsome person you are.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 6, 2009 5:53 PM | Report abuse

That could happen to Obama too.

Posted by: JakeD | July 6, 2009 5:38 PM | Report abuse

" Now it looks like 1977 all over again.... learn your history...please.

Posted by: jimobrca | July 5, 2009 11:51 AM "
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Reagan was not elected because the left tried to demonize him, he was elected by Repubs and Dems alike. President Carter was perceived as being weak and had the horrible misfortune of launching a failed raid to free the Iranian hostages where seven military helicopters went down in the desert, killing all aboard.

Learn your history please, or maybe, just stick to Canadian history.

Posted by: JRM2 | July 6, 2009 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Wrong thread.

Posted by: JakeD | July 6, 2009 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Compromise is better than this. Demo rats control congress and prez is a disaster. An
expensive one if you are a tax payer.

Posted by: 1uncle | July 6, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse

I meant "Face the Nation".

Posted by: JakeD | July 6, 2009 2:09 PM | Report abuse

She also made the topics on NBC "Meet the Press".

Posted by: JakeD | July 5, 2009 8:49 PM
Meet the Press wasn't on yesterday because of the Wimbledon's Mens Final.

Posted by: baltimoremom | July 6, 2009 2:02 PM | Report abuse

zvelf:

Gov. Palin never claimed that merely living in Alaska gave her foreign policy experience, and she said she read ALL of the newspapers / magazines she's given to read -- the White House has a similar press clipping service for Obama -- do you have any non-strawman arguments?

You probably think that Biden "massacre[d]" her in their debate too. Careful what you wish for.

Posted by: JakeD | July 6, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

As an independent with a pro-Dem bent, I very much hope Palin runs against Obama in 2012. She’ll be a lot easier to beat than Romney or Huckabee. It’s strange that liberals and conservatives both rejoice in Palin’s probable running because she’s traded one handicap for another. She may no longer have the duties of governor and can escape Alaska to build a campaign machine, but she also threw away her only significant political accomplishment and the only one that could address her greatest political liability – her inexperience. One can claim Obama also had relative inexperience, but he continually proved his knowledge in every political area when questioned on them. He did not claim merely living in Alaska gave him foreign policy experience. He would not be unable to name a single periodical that he reads. He doesn’t ramble nonsensically when asked questions but gives thoughtful answers and contextualizes them. You better believe that when Palin runs again, all the old Couric and Gibson footage will revive, and Obama would massacre her in a debate. Also, America doesn’t like quitters.

Posted by: zvelf | July 6, 2009 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: JakeD | July 6, 2009 12:13 PM | Report abuse

The thing to worry about with Palin is that - like Limbaugh and O'Reilly - she has the ability to incite hatred and violent impulses in those with no higher level thinking skills. You need only read the posts in this comment section to see the level of irrational thought she inspires. She may not be dangerous politically, but she is certainly capable of inciting the type of right-wing extremism that the DHS report warned of.

Posted by: annieb346 | July 6, 2009 11:49 AM | Report abuse

She is absolutely perfect cannon fodder for the neocon controled Republicans in 2012. She's much prettier than Obama, marches to the Limbaugh-Bush-Cheney line just as well as, maybe even better than, McCain did in 2008, and she'll have the major networks back on regular scheduling by 6:00PM Pacific Time on election night.

As stupid as it sounds, and even more so is, I think that the same Republican mindset which nominated Harding in '24 and Hoover in '28 will give us the Tina Fey look-alike in '12 and get its butt kicked in.

Posted by: winger1 | July 6, 2009 11:46 AM | Report abuse

The Wall Street Journal's editorial pages, an otherwise apologist mouth-piece for the Bush agenda and, generally, the crack-pot conservative wing of the republican party, did, today, on page A12 put a wooden stake in the ex-governor's 2012 aspirations. Best editorial I've read on the WSJ's editorial page in years....

Posted by: skiloypet | July 6, 2009 11:36 AM | Report abuse

She is SUCH an idiot! She is flat out dumb and flaky! She hasn't a snowball's chance in H*ll of getting elected president in 2012 after breaking her commitment to Alaskans when the going got a little too tough for delicate Sarah. i am ashamed to admit that I bought her story when she first hit the scene. I was duped into supporting her but realise now that picking Sarah Palin alone disqualified McCain to be POTUS. Not only is the woman ignorant, she is proud of it! She has had months to educate herself but seems aggressively uninformed. We had 8 horrific years of that & the US will not go for that again.

Posted by: cosmiccanine | July 6, 2009 10:26 AM | Report abuse

I didn't see any reason why anyone would take Governor Palin seriously after the Katie Couric interview, and now I don't understand how anyone - Republican or Democrat or Independent - could accept her as a viable presidential candidate in 2012. This conservative Republican didn't make sense as a vice presidential candidate, why does she think she would make sense to the nation as president after resigning before her first term of offcie has ended?

Posted by: LiveFree | July 6, 2009 10:15 AM | Report abuse

There's always a chance: "Keep hope alive!"

Posted by: JakeD | July 6, 2009 9:36 AM | Report abuse


Limbaugh and O'Reilly are the current leaders of the conservative movement, if not the Republican party. Sarah is going to compete with THEM, not with Mitt Romney or any other serious politician.

She is going to cash in on her recent celebrity with her book deal and probably a show on Fox News. Another 16 months as governor of a small state? Slogging through a re-election campaign, only to lose to a Democrat? No thanks. Much better to quit now and head for the studio.

Posted by: mikeinmidland | July 6, 2009 9:33 AM | Report abuse

The GOP's roster for 2012 is full of damaged goods. Do they have any chance of defeating Obama?

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: parkerfl1 | July 6, 2009 8:34 AM | Report abuse

"Palin has avoided difficult questions, preferring Runner's World to another Katie Couric interview; she has dragged her family into the spotlight when it suited her (baby Trig was in Runner's World, too)"

You know, I don't have a problem with politicians showing off their kids in a non-political way. Whether its the Obamas or the Palins having them on stage at their conventions or with Trig in Runners' World or the Obama kids on Time or whatever. That shouldn't make the kids open to attack. Obviously there's some political motive to showing the politicians to have happy families, but I don't see how anyone can take too much issue with that.

It's only when the children are used for overt political purposes that makes them open to attack such as what had been done with Bristol. I can't think of any equivalent for anyone else.

Now I'm not saying that the doctored photo was an attack on Trig. It clearly wasn't. However if someone did attack Trig, you could hardly justify it by saying it's ok since the baby was featured in Runners' World.

Posted by: DDAWD | July 6, 2009 7:04 AM | Report abuse

Resigning her seat as Governor will likely make Ms Palin a byword, like Perot. In this arena, I don't see how quitting can do anything for her. It will cost her all of her leadership credibility. On the lighter side, a 2012 bid? not likely. Its probably a good thing the world is ending that year. She ought to find some celebrity hunk and have a worldwind (deliberate spelling) romance. If nothing else, it will keep her in the spotlight for awhile longer. Otherwise, this quitting is likely to be her eclipse.

Posted by: trogwolf | July 6, 2009 6:58 AM | Report abuse

The NYTimes conservative collumnist Ross Douthat puts it well today (though I disagree with many of his other conclusions in this column):

"And now, seemingly, it’s over. Oh, maybe not forever: she’s only 45, young enough (and, yes, talented enough) to have a second act. But last Friday’s bizarre, rambling resignation speech should take her off the political map for the duration of the Obama era.

One hopes that was intentional. A Sarah Palin who stepped down for the sake of her family and her media-swarmed state deserves sympathy even from the millions of Americans who despise her. A Sarah Palin who resigned in the delusional belief that it would give her a better shot at the presidency in 2012 warrants no such kindness."

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/06/opinion/06ross.html?_r=1

Posted by: kreuz_missile | July 6, 2009 5:05 AM | Report abuse

"knock yourself outThe politics of dehumanizing your target will fail to stem the tide of anti-liberal fascist sentiment sweeping the Nation"

Is this person acknowledging the anti-liberals out there are in fact fascists?

"I guess that attacking Trig and Willow Palin is OK too."

Just a thought, but if she and her supporters would stop using her family as a shield, they might not get hit so much...

Posted by: kreuz_missile | July 6, 2009 2:52 AM | Report abuse

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/05/AR2009070501783.html?hpid=opinionsbox1

"But perhaps the explanation for this lies in the final part of one of Palin's statements: that "Washington and the media" cannot understand her decision because "it's about country." In other words, for the past nine months, Palin has avoided difficult questions, preferring Runner's World to another Katie Couric interview; she has dragged her family into the spotlight when it suited her (baby Trig was in Runner's World, too) and grown angry when the spotlight became too strong; she has eschewed reason and logic (not to mention spelling and grammar), yet reacted in horror when her critics were unreasonable and illogical in response. Then, after all that, she smugly asserts the right to decide who is a patriot and who is not. It's not about "country," in other words, it's about hypocrisy. And Sarah Palin is full of it. "

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 6, 2009 1:47 AM | Report abuse

A steady weekly drumbeat of spectacular GOP meltdowns. Ensign, Sanford, Palin. I wonder who's next.

It's like all the nuttiness reached a critical mass and now it's fissioning. Like the ol' box of firecrackers in grade school science class.

Who will be the next to p0p?

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 6, 2009 1:38 AM | Report abuse

Alas there is no delete here, nor editing, nor, most urgently missed, the ability to block a troublesome poster.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 6, 2009 1:30 AM | Report abuse

Sorry for the repeats... My computer has been acting up. The 12:54 version of that last post is the one that should be kept. The others should be deleted.

Posted by: JustTheFacts | July 6, 2009 12:56 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is indicative of just how nutty the entire GOP has become.

Palin, like most modern Republicans, is not a Goldwater-esque conservative. She is closer to an evangelical dominionist -- out to set up the U.S. government as an instrument of "God's dominion" on Earth. Those folks compete for attention in the Republican Party with devotees of Ayn Rand's objectivist movement -- which is an ideology so radical that its followers are opposed to outlawing child labor.

Compared to the right wing of today, the Goldwater conservatives of years past were pretty darned tame -- and sane. I sure wish conservatives would make a come-back to replace the radicals who have taken over the GOP.

Posted by: JustTheFacts | July 6, 2009 12:54 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is indicative of just how nutty the entire GOP has become.

Palin, like most modern Republicans, is not a Goldwater-esque conservative. She is closer to an evangelical dominionist -- out to set up the U.S. government as an instrument of "God's dominion" on Earth. Those folks compete for attention in the Republican Party with devotees of Ayn Rand's objectivist movement -- which is an ideology so radical that its followers are opposed to outlawing child labor.

Compared to the right wing of today, the Goldwater conservatives of years past were pretty darned tame -- and sane. I sure wish conservatives would make a come-back to replace the radicals who have taken over the GOP.

Posted by: JustTheFacts | July 6, 2009 12:54 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is indicative of just how nutty the entire GOP has become.

Palin, like most modern Republicans, is not a Goldwater-esque conservative. She is closer to an evangelical dominionist -- out to set up the U.S. government as an instrument of "God's dominion" on Earth. Those folks compete for attention in the Republican Party with followers devotees of Ayn Rand's objectivist movement -- which is an ideology so radical that its followers are opposed to outlawing child labor.

Compared to the right wing of today, the Goldwater conservatives of years past were pretty darned tame -- and sane. I sure wish conservatives would make a come-back to replace the radicals who have taken over the GOP.

Posted by: JustTheFacts | July 6, 2009 12:51 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is indicative of just how nutty the entire GOP has become.

Palin, like most modern Republicans, is not a Goldwater-esque conservative. She is closer to an evangelical dominionist -- out to set up the U.S. government as an instrument of "God's dominion" on Earth. Those folks compete for attention in the Republican Party with followers ... Read Moreof Ayn Rand's objectivist movement -- which is an ideology so radical that its followers are opposed to outlawing child labor.

Compared to the right wing of today, the Goldwater conservatives of years past were pretty darned tame -- and sane. I sure wish conservatives would make a come-back to replace the radicals who have taken over the GOP.

Posted by: JustTheFacts | July 6, 2009 12:48 AM | Report abuse

Failure means nothing to you?

She (quit), I mean (quit) in the 3rd quarter of a very important basketball game.

Why, because she couldn't handle the pressure of a very important 3rd quarter basketball game?

Posted by: opp88 | July 6, 2009 12:43 AM | Report abuse

you're a dope

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 5, 2009 11:41 PM | Report abuse

I'm not in Palin's category (as I said before I doubt any of us have ever been elected Governor).

Posted by: JakeD | July 5, 2009 11:38 PM | Report abuse

JakeD you are tangential, petty and superficial. You are inflating yourself by putting yourself in Palin's category. Your narcissism is coming out.

Posted by: Gator-ron | July 5, 2009 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Actually, DDAWD, no, it wouldn't really be fun. It's not really all that wholesome to be brought into contact with the armpit of America. I don't mind a little gloating now that they're finally losing, not after spending all these past years wanting to hurl, but I'd really like to see these nasty rotten stupid people crawl back into their holes and to stop hearing from them.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 5, 2009 11:27 PM | Report abuse


A lot of us who post here are engineers or professionals in some field requiring years of education. Palin couldn't do our jobs, not ever, not with generous years to prepare herself.
________________

Yes and we have Dumbo with experience limited to organizing for ACORN in the Whitehouse.


Posted by: Bubbette1 | July 5, 2009 11:24 PM | Report abuse

"I like the Cizzler but I have to agree that this is not a good column. The previous one supposes that Palin's resignation is related to a 2012 presidential run, when there is scant evidence of that, and the resignation pretty much scotches it anyway."

Well, he never says that this is a good plan for a run up to a Presidential bid. He just says that's what she is going to do. I agree. She may have killed her chances at winning, but she can certainly go out there and campaign and make noise.

At least to me, her actual speech sounds like she is planning on running. Obviously she used the moment to gain sympathy and so forth, but it does seem like she is planning a run for the top job.

I hope she does. It will be fun.

Posted by: DDAWD | July 5, 2009 11:15 PM | Report abuse

knock yourself outThe politics of dehumanizing your target will fail to stem the tide of anti-liberal fascist sentiment sweeping the Nation

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(*guffaw*)

we got a live one here

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 5, 2009 10:53 PM | Report abuse

You Palin detractors are so ho hum. You fancy yourselves smart, cosmopolitan, intelligent and very attractive.
That's ok, self delusion is better than facing reality since your synapses would no doubt refuse to cooperate if you actually tried to have a thought that made sense and resembled the truth.
The politics of dehumanizing your target will fail to stem the tide of anti-liberal fascist sentiment sweeping the Nation.Your congress is ridiculed by 70% of Americans and 99% of foreigners who can read or hear english. Your days are numbered, so stop your hysterical screeching at Ms Palin and go do something constructive. Since your blathering days will be over soon, start thinking about what you have become because of your hateful thoughts and actions. Repent now and start dealing in facts and be respectful of others.

Posted by: Mandrake2 | July 5, 2009 10:50 PM | Report abuse

I guess that attacking Trig and Willow Palin is OK too.

Posted by: JakeD | July 5, 2009 10:45 PM | Report abuse

Both Nixon and Reagan were declared politically "dead" before they won two terms each. Bring it on, libs.

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awwwww, I think somebody needs a *hanky*

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 5, 2009 10:41 PM | Report abuse

Palin claims that the attacks on her family are the reason she's leaving her, among many other contradicting reasons.

I see this as a sympathy move, and sure enough the conservative trolls are all picking up the attacked-by-the-liberal-media message and running with it.

Considering how weird and unsavory her family is, herself included, I think they've gotten off pretty damned easy.

As if the unwed teen mom daughter shilling for the abstinence-only sex-ed that failed in her case wasn't enough, we have to far-right secessionist nutbar husband, the pregger daughter's druggie mother in law, the elder son a vandal and script-dope dealer, not to mention Palin's exorcism and failed attempts to "wing it" as she has to for everything, I think if anything the media have been laying down on the job.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 5, 2009 10:39 PM | Report abuse

Both Nixon and Reagan were declared politically "dead" before they won two terms each. Bring it on, libs.

Posted by: JakeD | July 5, 2009 10:38 PM | Report abuse

I like the Cizzler but I have to agree that this is not a good column. The previous one supposes that Palin's resignation is related to a 2012 presidential run, when there is scant evidence of that, and the resignation pretty much scotches it anyway.

This column concludes that Palin is here to stay, even as she leaves public life and is acting like someone about to turn fugitive.

Even conservatives of her same stripe are scratching their heads and wondering what's up with this .. only the craziest of the bunch are claiming to see it as a smart move. Kristol, Matalin, and, locally, JakeD, people conspicuously and routinely wrong.

Even a lot of people who a week ago were willing to stick out their necks and say she had a shot are now saying she blew it.

Of course the teabaggers will stick with her, it would take her turning pro-choice to alienate them, but they're dumb and crazy.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 5, 2009 10:28 PM | Report abuse

Gator-ron:

You can mock me or Gov. Palin all you want -- I only "prophesised" that Obama would not be sworn in as President on January 20, 2009 -- FYI he was actually sworn in the next day.

Posted by: JakeD | July 5, 2009 10:19 PM | Report abuse

Palin is the Idiot Savant Governor. She is an idiot about public policy and she appeals to JakeD who is very unknowledgeable about public policy but she is smart about politics. Don't fret about JakD is is attracted to losers like Allan Keyes he is a sucker for a hopeless cause. He prophesied that Obama would not be certified as eligible for inauguration based on a legal technicality. A competent lawyer would have know it was useless. Keyes the perpetual loser was the plaintiff in the case. If JakeD is a lawyer he is a faux lawyer. I agree that his language is inappropriate for his stated age. But everything about him is inappropriate.

The person who is JakeD is a disgusting human being and admires people with the poorest character. He should be mocked like the clown he is.

Posted by: Gator-ron | July 5, 2009 10:03 PM | Report abuse

"DDAWD, like you I was surprised by SHP's repeated incapacity to handle softball interviews last fall, and soon wrote her off as having no gravitas whatsoever.

George Will spoke her political obituary this morning on "This Week"."

I will say that it will be interesting if she proves the conventional wisdom wrong and has some success. But I do think she's done.

And seeing how the campaign cycle is two years now, I wonder if she has the stomach for that. It's going to be a lot more grueling than the few months she had to endure last year.

Posted by: DDAWD | July 5, 2009 9:57 PM | Report abuse

But doesn't the fact that she got a MENTION from Will show that she's "brilliant?"

(pant pant pant)

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 5, 2009 9:50 PM | Report abuse

DDAWD, like you I was surprised by SHP's repeated incapacity to handle softball interviews last fall, and soon wrote her off as having no gravitas whatsoever.

George Will spoke her political obituary this morning on "This Week".

Posted by: mark_in_austin | July 5, 2009 9:47 PM | Report abuse

"Ruth Marcus, who wants women in politics to do better:"

I think women are trying to feel out the best ways to get this done. I don't know if we see the success of Barack Obama without the failures of Jackson, Sharpton, and Keyes, guys who were too extreme to have a great deal of electoral success. It is possible for a white person to be a bit more extreme since they aren't faced with the skin color handicap.

Clinton and Palin might be a study in opposite personality types. Clinton is the strong, grizzled veteran who was almost trying to hide her femininity. Palin is the bubbly beauty queen who tried to smile and wink a g-drop her way through the election and seemed to be unbothered with her lack of a grasp on the issues.

Palin, obviously, was a failure. I think Clinton was more on spot. Yeah, she lost, but it was a very close race and it was a loss to one of the best politicians ever. Yeah, she had the name thing, and she didn't run a general election, but she did a lot better than Palin.

I think we will see the success of women who can rise through the ranks on their own. No matter what you think of Clinton or Palin, both of them were elevated by others. Clinton by her husband and Palin by McCain. I'm not sure who it's going to be, but it will have to be someone who rises through the ranks quickly, like Obama, or slowly, like McCain.

Politics is very Darwinistic in a sense and as more and more women get involved, its more likely that one of them will have the right traits to make it to the top.

Posted by: DDAWD | July 5, 2009 9:41 PM | Report abuse

we know how important small businesses are in this country for our economy.

why are conservatives so gung ho on this issue. of all major issue's the united states face, why this?

HEARTLAND businesses helps america economy. who are these small business owners?

who own these small businesses, and why so gung ho conservatives? who are the majority business owners in terms of ethnicity?

lets just assume that 60% of business owners in the united states are related to conservatives running the senate and or house?

sorry, they are not running anything in the house or the senate.

(R)'s vested interest would be family members, brothers, sisters, aunte, uncles, cousins, 2nd, 3rd generations?

hmmmm something to gander.

Posted by: opp88 | July 5, 2009 9:31 PM | Report abuse

Ruth Marcus, who wants women in politics to do better:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/04/AR2009070402254.html?hpid=opinionsbox1

"It's fair to say that I've been no fan of Palin's since John McCain picked her as his running mate, and my estimation of her has only gone downhill from there. I think my hostility has to do with our shared gender: I'm anxious to see women succeed in the political arena, as elsewhere, and I think McCain's cynical choice of Palin and her faltering performance since has served to set back that cause.

On the day she was announced as the vice presidential nominee, Palin gave a shout-out to Hillary Clinton's campaign and added, "It turns out the women of America aren't finished yet, and we can shatter that glass ceiling once and for all." Yes we can, but Palin hasn't helped.

This latest twist in the perils of Palin soap opera only makes matters worse. The unconvincing explanation combined with refrigerator magnet wisdom -- "Don't explain: Your friends don't need it and your enemies won't believe you anyway" -- underscores the image of women unable to withstand the heat of political pressure. The notion that this is some kind of "brilliant" (Mary Matalin) or "crazy like a fox" (Bill Kristol) move strikes me as ludicrous. "

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As it does almost everyone.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 5, 2009 9:17 PM | Report abuse

No

Posted by: DDAWD | July 5, 2009 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Are they saying Sarah made a smart move, Jake?

Or are they just talking about her and what a stupid move she just made?

If there is one (1) person here who's just as happy with negative attention as positive, it would be you, so the fact that you're happy to see Palin getting bad press is hardly shocking.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 5, 2009 9:08 PM | Report abuse

DDAWD:

Did you watch any of the Sunday talk shows today?

Posted by: JakeD | July 5, 2009 9:02 PM | Report abuse

"I'm reading a lot of posts implying that liberals and democrats are kept up at night worrying about Palin. I don't think so. I think conservatives and republicans are kept up at night worrying about Palin."

You know, when Palin was first nominated and started making a fool of herself, I figured that she was probably relatively intelligent, but just found herself thrust into a situation she wasn't prepared for. She was a new governor and was probably focusing on that job rather than for anything on a national level.

But, you know, its a year later and Palin still hasn't shown any sign of becoming educated on the most pressing issues facing the country. She still comes across as a lightweight and a drama queen. Pulling this stunt definitely doesn't help her case.

Posted by: DDAWD | July 5, 2009 8:56 PM | Report abuse

.. where she will never appear as a guest because the questions would be too hard.

With lots of big words an' stuff.

And complicated ideas.

Those meanies!

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 5, 2009 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Every single Palin thread on every single board and media source is polluted with absurd comments from something called "JakeD". (I mean it. Every daggone one.) I think it's some kind of disruptive autobot programmed by the Palin camp to lower the IQ level of any discussion it is involved in. Beware!

Posted by: MarkFromOhio | July 5, 2009 8:54 PM | Report abuse

She also made the topics on NBC "Meet the Press".

Posted by: JakeD | July 5, 2009 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Yeah Jake it's called "attention wh0ring."

Problem is, she is getting bad attention.

The meme "Palin = Quitter" will outshine any other.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 5, 2009 8:47 PM | Report abuse

ABC News lede story tonight was Gov. Palin. Lt. Gov. Parnell was on Fox News Sunday. "Unconventional run" for the White House. Even beating out Michael Jackson, Joe Biden, and Barack Obama. Clever like a fox.

Posted by: JakeD | July 5, 2009 8:42 PM | Report abuse

heh heh heh

Sarah's trying to cover her cowardly a$$.

Guess who's lapping it up.

Guess who isn't.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 5, 2009 8:33 PM | Report abuse

Sarah's Twitter today: "Critics are spinning, so hang in there as they feed false info on the right decision made as I enter last year in office to not run again."

Posted by: JakeD | July 5, 2009 8:29 PM | Report abuse

Jake, your troll is out of sync too. You claim to be old enough to be retired, as an explanation for your posting here around the clock seven days a week.

That would make you at least 65, and you claim to be in your 70s.

Problem is, you use smilies and "lol" and other lexical habits that older people don't ever use. Back when people now in their 70s were being educated, schools set higher standards for writing than they do now. I've never met anyone over 60 who uses "lol" or smilies.

Based on your drivelous politics and what you claim to be excited about, I would guess you to be no older than 40, and likely in your 20s.

And I think a monthly SSI check is the actual explanation for your endless free time for trolling.

Your "golfing" is actually time spent convincing your caseworker you're too disabled mentally to work, isn't it.

Thought so.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 5, 2009 8:26 PM | Report abuse

She was "smart" enough to get elected Governor (something no one posting here has ever done

Posted by: JakeD

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A lot of us who post here are engineers or professionals in some field requiring years of education. Palin couldn't do our jobs, not ever, not with generous years to prepare herself.

She's soon-to-be-ex-governor of a state with the population of a medium-sized city, prior to that she was mayor of a town with fewer people than most universities have students, most of them living in trailers.

And as governor of Alaska, she didn't have a lot of serious responsibilities, It's kinda like the governorship of Texas.

I'm not suprised you look up to her, though .. you probably look up to a hotel concierge, and get positively wet at hotel doormen.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 5, 2009 8:19 PM | Report abuse

FraudObama:

She was "smart" enough to get elected Governor (something no one posting here has ever done ; )

Posted by: JakeD | July 5, 2009 8:00 PM | Report abuse

bigbrother1:

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Posted by: JakeD | July 5, 2009 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Gov. Palin is the Liberals worst nightmare. They are obsessed with her. She is Conservative, Independent, Smart, Credible and not of the mainstream.

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For the troll to succeed it needs to be at least marginally believable. By calling Palin "smart" you overstep the bounds of credibility.

Back to Troll School with you.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 5, 2009 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Quitter 2012! Woo-wooo!

Posted by: margaretmeyers | July 5, 2009 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Palin 2012!

Posted by: KPaints1 | July 5, 2009 6:40 PM | Report abuse

I suppose whatever it is she's doing may work... But good point-guards don't quit the team in mid-season.

Secondly, she didn't want to do lame-duck junkets. Well, the degree that a politician is taken as a lame-duck is some what up to the particular politician.

Posted by: Roofelstoon | July 5, 2009 6:15 PM | Report abuse

Here's Shannyn Moore's blog page:
http://shannynmoore.wordpress.com/

Posted by: Martial | July 5, 2009 6:12 PM | Report abuse

I'm sorry, but I'm done with Cillizza. If he wants to sing the praises of Palin like a brain-dead neo-con hack (e.g. Kristol) let him, but I can't respect him or take him seriously anymore.

Sarah Palin is over. Chris Cillizza is over. To all you reasonable people who write here, lets just boycott this clown. Maybe if his traffic goes way down, he'll get the Froomkin treatment. And maybe if he doesn't we'll see just how much the Post management is lying to us.

But that's it for me. Good riddance to bad rubbish, Palin and Cillizza both.

Posted by: bigbrother1 | July 5, 2009 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Some apparently false and defamatory paragraphs from Barrett:

THE $12.5 MILLION sports complex and hockey rink that is the lasting monument to Palin's two terms as Wasilla mayor is also a monument to the kind of insider politics that dismays Americans of both parties. Six months before Palin stepped down as mayor in October 2002, the city awarded nearly a half-million-dollar contract to design the biggest project in Wasilla history to Kumin Associates. Blase Burkhart was the Kumin architect on the job—the son of Roy Burkhart, who is frequently described as a "mentor" of Palin and was head of the local Republican Party (his wife, June, who also advised Palin, is the national committeewoman). Asked if the contract was a favor, Roy Burkhart, who contributed to her campaign in the same time frame that his son got the contract, said: "I really don't know." Palin then named Blase Burkhart to a seven-member builder-selection committee that picked Howdie Inc., a mostly residential contractor owned at the time by Howard Nugent. Formally awarded the contract a couple of weeks after Palin left office, Nugent has donated $4,000 to Palin campaigns. Two competitors protested the process that led to Nugent's contract. Burkhart and Nugent had done at least one project together before the complex—and have done several since.

A list of subcontractors on the job, obtained by the Voice, includes many with Palin ties. One was Spenard Builders Supply, the state's leading supplier of wood, floor, roof, and other "pre-engineered components." In addition to being a sponsor of Todd Palin's snow-machine team that has earned tens of thousands for the Palin family, Spenard hired Sarah Palin to do a statewide television commercial in 2004. When the Palins began building a new family home off Lake Lucille in 2002—at the same time that Palin was running for lieutenant governor and in her final months as mayor—Spenard supplied the materials, according to Antoine Bricks, who works in its Wasilla office. Spenard actually filed a notice "of its right to assert a lien" on the deed for the Palin property after contracting for labor and materials for the site. Spenard's name has popped up in the trial of Senator Stevens—it worked on the house that is at the center of the VECO scandal as well.

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Again, WaPO is in the deep doo doo for reprinting them.

Posted by: Martial | July 5, 2009 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Cilizza, watch your behind, the apparently libelous piece by Wayne Barrett, http://www.villagevoice.com/2008-10-08/news/the-book-of-sarah/
has just been reposted on Washington Post.

Posted by: Martial | July 5, 2009 6:03 PM | Report abuse

I'm reading a lot of posts implying that liberals and democrats are kept up at night worrying about Palin. I don't think so. I think conservatives and republicans are kept up at night worrying about Palin. Palin keeps making news because there is showdown coming in the republican party and it is hard to turn away from it. Republicans that want to be successful want to stand up to Palin but are afraid to offend her supporters. The more self-destructive and the more unelectable that she gets, the more interesting the story gets as we all wonder what candidate in the GOP will stand up to her. Her quote about not explaining yourself because your friends don't need it and your enemies won't understand fits her perfectly. She has created an "us against them" message where she tells her hard core base everything that they want to hear and blames anything bad on anybody that is not her hard core base.

It will be interesting to see how this is resolved. Great television - but definitely a case of Palin vs Republicans.

Posted by: mddeblois | July 5, 2009 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is her own worst enemy. She's already in the wilderness. Let's let her stay there. At least conservative ideology will be the subject around the campfire, as the dark, the howl of the wolf, tahe whistle of the wind, and the ghost of Reagan close in.

Posted by: dudh | July 5, 2009 5:59 PM | Report abuse

The Alaskan UFO (Unfit For Office) streaks across the landscape once more, emitting sparks and much heat, but virtually no illumination. Sarah Palin's call for "less government intervention, greater energy independence, stronger national security, and much-needed fiscal restraint" is warmed over baby dribble from John McCain's drubbing at the hands of Barack Obama. When she is forced to translate "less government intervention" into practical policies passable in the Senate and House, her igloo will melt faster than global warming. "Greater energy independence" involves more than increased use of whale blubber produced by Alaskan mammals. The use of helicopters to chase and secure meat that can be purchased in local grocery stores on the way home from work is typical of her thinking processes. "Stronger national security" is fine material for rallying the NK baiters, the Iran haters and the Second Amendment crowd, but does that mean more missiles instead of education, more silos instead of health care, more nuclear weapons instead of any of a number of choices? "Stronger" means what in terms of practical applications? We are not talking bench pressing here! And "fiscal restraint" is shown by doing the little things, not ranting the big word. We could start by calling wardrobe.

No, Sarah will be entertaining, as she was as John's sidekick. But on the big stage, the headliner has to have staying power, and Sarah has just proved that isn't her thing.

Posted by: deucebollards | July 5, 2009 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Now, why would Sarah Palin's lawyer threaten legal action over a very narrow issue, whether the Palins had received any benefit from a construction project?? Sounds like the other shoe that we're all waiting to drop. Sarah Palin resigned -- why now? Is she hoping that folks will stop sniffing around the Wasilla Sports Complex and her ties to one of the major building supplies contractors and the simultaneous construction of her home by her husband and "some of his construction buddies."

Posted by: jacobson98 | July 5, 2009 7:28 AM | Report abuse

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Did not even know about this till her paid mouthpiece mentioned it. Thought Branchflower report was most likely; now the Wasilla complex appears the front runner as to the cause of her resignation.

Posted by: Martial | July 5, 2009 5:52 PM | Report abuse

How likely is it that Sarah Palin resigned as part of an agreement with the Feds? it would hardly be the first time that a prosecutor offered to decline filing charges if a public official stepped down. The question is, will we ever know?

The existence of such a deal would certainly go far in explaining Palin's attorney's over-the-top attempts to wave off further press investigations of his client. After all, if the details of this (hypothetical) arrangement were to be made public, Palin's reputatition would be forever trashed and her future earning potential would go down the tubes.

Then again, maybe I'm being overly optimistic about America's ability to discard a proven fraud and criminal. Judging from the number of Sarah cultists on this board, I'm starting to think Palin could drown her own kids tomoorow and still find a host of JakeDs to defend her.

Posted by: whatmeregister | July 5, 2009 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Me thinks that her attorneys protest too much.

Posted by: lwps | July 5, 2009 5:22 PM | Report abuse

How exactly can a Governor claim to be the victim of libel for assertions of corruption?

Posted by: Martial | July 5, 2009 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Gov. Palin is the Liberals worst nightmare. They are obsessed with her. She is Conservative, Independent, Smart, Credible and not of the mainstream. They simply cannot deal with it. The only response they can muster is elementary school yard insults and slander. In fact, they only harm themselves with their immature rants. Remember, she cleaned the Court Jester Joe's clock in the debate and her experience, executive experience, out shines the Radical Street Agitator Punk Barry ACORN Soetoro. She keeps the Libs up at night conjuring their next hate filled spewing as they alienate themselves from the rest of the country. The libs are a paranoid bunch.
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You know, I've seen the same exact posting on a whole host of Wapo discussions today; if you're going to rant, at least take the time to have an original thought!
And frankly, no, what Sarah thinks or does or want to do does not keep me up at night at all; for me it's all about the entertainment value. She's kinda like the race at Daytona last night, you're on the edge of your seat the whole time, waiting for that big wreck that inevitably occurs!

Posted by: PeterPamZ | July 5, 2009 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Just got out of the woods.
Scratched up, sunburned and loving this country; hope you all had a great 4th.

But right now, I'd like to know around whom will the slowly but ever so surely dwindling number of America's bible bigots organize?

They need a freshly minted, very angry yet charismatic White person who can do the "average" act better than Sarah Palin, better than "Joe the Plumber".

Bigots need demagogues, there is an opportunity here.

Posted by: shrink2 | July 5, 2009 4:40 PM | Report abuse


Gov. Palin is the Liberals worst nightmare. They are obsessed with her. She is Conservative, Independent, Smart, Credible and not of the mainstream. They simply cannot deal with it. The only response they can muster is elementary school yard insults and slander. In fact, they only harm themselves with their immature rants. Remember, she cleaned the Court Jester Joe's clock in the debate and her experience, executive experience, out shines the Radical Street Agitator Punk Barry ACORN Soetoro. She keeps the Libs up at night conjuring their next hate filled spewing as they alienate themselves from the rest of the country. The libs are a paranoid bunch.

Posted by: FraudObama | July 5, 2009 4:30 PM | Report abuse

I just read lots of these posts, especially the quibbling JakeD and chrisfox8. MLIA.

Posted by: AMD2 | July 5, 2009 4:24 PM | Report abuse

This is perfect for Democrats. She's not going to pick up a single new supporter from any of this, but her existing ones are diehards. This will ensure her influence in the Republican Party, which can only hurt them. Ha ha!

Posted by: MagicDog1 | July 5, 2009 4:20 PM | Report abuse

“Perhaps the best part of Palin’s announcement [July 3]:

'Life is too short to compromise time and resources… it may be tempting and more comfortable to just keep your head down, plod along, and appease those who demand: “Sit down and shut up”, but that’s the worthless, easy path; that’s a quitter’s way out.'

Quitters stick to it. Winners quit.”

–David Kurtz

Quitter 2012!

Posted by: drewconk | July 5, 2009 3:58 PM | Report abuse

JakeD: You just have to let go my friend. Palin is done for, stick a fork in her.

Posted by: vbhoomes | July 5, 2009 3:56 PM | Report abuse

DDAWD:

Did you watch ANY of the Sunday talk shows falling over themselves about Gov. Palin?

Posted by: JakeD | July 5, 2009 3:40 PM | Report abuse

"It was Palin who suggested an impending ethics investigation in her implicit claim she was saving the state millions by resigning. What was that all about?"

It was a lame attempt to justify her quitting by saying that lame ducks spend all their time sightseeing and not accomplishing anything.

Posted by: DDAWD | July 5, 2009 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Quit dreaming, Jake. Neither Palin nor Romney is going to play second fiddle to the other. Palin probably views Mormons as pagans or something, given all the brain-charred fundamentalist stuff she believes in.

And unlike Palin, who gets attention and uses it against herself, Romney is incredibly boring and uninspiring, even if the voters were open to try the "CEO President" thing again, which I doubt.

Better get used to the fact that the next GOP president is probably not even born yet.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 5, 2009 3:24 PM | Report abuse

jhbayer:

That was "all about" the dozen bogus ethics complaints that have been dismissed but still cost a million dollars to defend against. Multiply that by 3 or 4.

Posted by: JakeD | July 5, 2009 3:19 PM | Report abuse

vbhoomes:

How about we compromise with a Palin-Romney Ticket?

dudh:

Very funny (NOT!)

Posted by: JakeD | July 5, 2009 3:15 PM | Report abuse

It was Palin who suggested an impending ethics investigation in her implicit claim she was saving the state millions by resigning. What was that all about?

Posted by: jhbyer | July 5, 2009 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Mark_in_Austin: I know Mitt is running in 2012 and it looks like Haley will also jump in, but I haven't seen any indication that Thune or Corker plan on running. If Obama is in bad political shape in 2012, the public will want the anti-Obama candidate, that would be a southern Governor or at least a Governor. Mitt has the money(plus after Sanford, I don't want any surprises, Mitt doesn't even drink coffee)and Barbour the connections to hire the best political talent out there. I could never support Huckabee, with his populist tunes and the way he uses God as if he was the annointed one.

Posted by: vbhoomes | July 5, 2009 3:09 PM | Report abuse

"Further, having now seen her entire performance of the speech, I agree with ChrisFox8 and others that she seemed very unnerved and rambled in a most odd way."

She gets this way anytime she has to justify the unjustifiable. When talking about foreign policy experience, she gives us Russia. When talking about the economy, she gives us this bizarre ramble that Tina Fey thought fit to use verbatim on SNL. When talking about why she's quitting the governorship, she starts talking about lame ducks and point guards calling audibles.

Obviously she knew she had no business being the running mate, but had her role, so she couldn't provide coherent answers to interview questions. But this wasn't an interview. You have to wonder if even she thinks this is a smart thing.

Posted by: DDAWD | July 5, 2009 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Mark my words, Sarah Palin should not be overestimated. She's got Washington, the media, and the Republican party right where she wants them. She remains the greatest possible threat to her political future.

Posted by: dudh | July 5, 2009 3:07 PM | Report abuse

This took me about a minute to get, but a minute well spent.

==

"AuH2O" was actually on some signs at the GOP convention in '64.

If conservatives want a real model instead of a freak show they could do a lot worse than looking to the former Senator from Arizona.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 5, 2009 3:00 PM | Report abuse

The fact that Palin is not being discussed much indicates that she's already tagged as yesterday's news, and no longer relevant.

One can only wonder why it took so long, and what she'll come up with next to get attention.

Maybe she can take a cue from that guy who said he was going to amputate his own arm on a live webcam.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 5, 2009 2:57 PM | Report abuse

"They very well could get their girl the nomination. Should that happen SP will book end the Party of AUH2O."

This took me about a minute to get, but a minute well spent.

Posted by: DDAWD | July 5, 2009 2:54 PM | Report abuse

SHP has endorsed Goodhair against KBH. Let us see if she comes to TX to campaign for him in the R Primary.

If the D Primary is uncontested, all TX indies will vote in the R Primary and KBH will crush Goodhair,; thus SHP's appearances for him, if any, will be irrelevant.

If Ronnie Earle jumps in against Tom Schieffer on the D side, the R Primary may become a true "Republican" Primary. Then SHP's appearances for Goodhair, if any, will be measurable.

Because she has already endorsed in the biggest R state, her failure to appear here would also signal something relevant about her future.

Like bhoomes, I think this will be viewed as a blunder that will take her out of consideration. If I were predicting an R field in '12, it would include WMR, TP, Thune, Corker, and maybe HB, plus some others. MDH is a possibility. I think SHP does not come off well in a debate setting with any of them. None of them are quitters. This cannot be spun as other than a blunder, if '12 is the goal.

Further, having now seen her entire performance of the speech, I agree with ChrisFox8 and others that she seemed very unnerved and rambled in a most odd way.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | July 5, 2009 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Back on topic, I posted what they said about Gov. Palin on "This Week". Did anyone else see her being discussed on the other Sunday talk shows?

Posted by: JakeD | July 5, 2009 2:31 PM | Report abuse

"Sarah Palin will never run for the Senate. Anyone who thinks so is dumber than she is.
She will run for president, get trounced in the GOP primaries, and go off to a life of worthlessness. Posted by: koolkat_1960"

The one thing that isn't sure is that she gets trounced in the primaries. Unless the Republicans do a massive make over of their Primary theory, she really has a chance there. Winner take all elections crowded together and early. Lots of other candidates to use up most of the vote. Palin is a 20%er, but will she be the Conservatives 20%er. If she gets the Conservative nod she can get the Conservative nomination.

Of course that means she has to head the ticket, can't get buy with being the designated moon calf female on the stage with John McCain. SHE has to carry the load, and if she doesn't like the off season sniping wait till a real election with her as the main target in the turkey shoot.

The republicans who say, "Don't count her out." have a death wish. They very well could get their girl the nomination. Should that happen SP will book end the Party of AUH2O.

Posted by: ceflynline | July 5, 2009 2:31 PM | Report abuse

A crowd of 20,000 shows up for a municipal fireworks display, Jake.

To win a national election, Palin would need to get 70 million votes. She's about 50 million short.

Better buy a new battery for your calculator, if you have enough money left after donating to SarahPAC

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 5, 2009 2:30 PM | Report abuse

vbhoomes:

I just saw your post about Romney or Barbour being the GOP nominee -- that's a long ways away -- all I know is that neither of them can pull a crowd of 20,000.

Posted by: JakeD | July 5, 2009 2:26 PM | Report abuse

That's the "advice" you were giving everyone. No skin off my nose though.

Posted by: JakeD | July 5, 2009 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Palin better find a better lawyer if he really thinks he's going to get anywhere with a libel suit against people speculating that she resigned for legal reasons. The case law is pretty clear, and the bar is pretty set pretty high for success for such a suit when the person in question is a political figure.

If she is studying up for a run for the Presidency in 2012, she should start with the Bill of Rights and especially the first amendments. She may talk about the Constitution and Freedom, but she clearly doesn't understand what they mean.

Posted by: tgoglia | July 5, 2009 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Does it look like I'm ignoring you, Jake?

Do you really need help as basic as this?

Reminder: when the sky is bright we call it "daytime."

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 5, 2009 2:13 PM | Report abuse

So, I guess you are no longer "ignoring" me?

Posted by: JakeD | July 5, 2009 2:08 PM | Report abuse

a Palin Presidential run will not be funded by the regular GOP-monied interests
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No it'll be funded by swing shift workers at Woolworth's and at meat-packing plants in the rural south. And by JakeD, dumping his cigar box of pennies, a few nickels, and three dimes, into a Coinstar machine.
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Um. You do know that Woolworth's has been closed now for a decade? And that few workers, outside of those who work in building maintenance, diners, and hospitals, work a "swing shift," since manufacturing jobs have pretty much disappeared. And those meat plant workers? Illegal aliens,including children; who else would put up with the horrific conditions? But you do present a charming fantasy of a populist worker's revolution. Not surprising, since Sister Palin is the candidate of magical thinkers everywhere.

Posted by: member5 | July 5, 2009 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Jake, Jake, Jake.

So much wishful thinking. Your if is a long shot by itself. A lot of Republicans don't like Palin (read the news for chrissake), she was already regarded as scattered, erratic, and intellectually unfit. Now atop all that she's a quitter who abandons her job because people are being mean to her.

And even if she appeals to a few deep south values-voters, a group at their lowest ebb since before the Moral Majority, where is she going to get the votes for a presidential win? Are you nuts?

Given your "thing" about Obama's LONG FORM, the answer to that question can only be "yes."

She would get at most 25 million votes. The most optimistic projection imaginable. More likely to get 10 or 12 million. And she would need 70 million.

Keep hope alive.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 5, 2009 1:58 PM | Report abuse

WilliamShipley:

If she's seen as THE reason Republicans hold their ground, or gain seats, in the mid-term election, you still don't think there's a path for her to the White House?!

Posted by: JakeD | July 5, 2009 1:46 PM | Report abuse

. Sarah Palin is the party's biggest draw, she generates money and excitement. If, as I suspect, her intention is to lend her efforts to this battle, then her decision is sound.

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heh heh heh.

Yeah I'm sure that by this time next year there will be Republican hopefuls all over the country wriggling with delight at their own campaign ads on TV showing them standing next to an incoherent babbling bimbo whose greatest claims to fame are quitting her first state post after only 2.5 years .. and for parading around her pregnant unmarried daughter but whining when someone made fun of her.

Yeah, really, a Palin endorsement will be like the Golden Fleece.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 5, 2009 1:45 PM | Report abuse

sverigegrabb:

There's definitely a point where you stop casting pearls, but we know the end of His story. I'm not worried in the least.

Posted by: JakeD | July 5, 2009 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Assuming, of course, that your "President" is even a natural-born citizen -- you'd better hope no one ever finds proof to the contrary

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We've been over this idiocy a few dozen times already yet you keep returning to it like there's hope for your conspiracy fantasy.

Obama is the president, he won 54% of the vote, and he is eligible by birth to be president. Repeating this stupid canard puts you at the bottom of the credibility barrel right alongside scrivener and his secret microwave mind-control mob-blogging.

Y0U = NUTTE

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 5, 2009 1:40 PM | Report abuse

The next big game is the 2010 mid-terms. It is essential that the Republican party get collected and do well to have any ability to influence the agenda. Sarah Palin is the party's biggest draw, she generates money and excitement. If, as I suspect, her intention is to lend her efforts to this battle, then her decision is sound. Being a sitting Alaskan governor, even a lame duck one would leave her benched until the 2012 cycle -- which was why all these ethics violations were filed, to tie her down. Now she's free to be in the campagin.

As a decision for 2012, no, it doesn't make sense, but for 2010, it does. We can deal with 2012 later.

Posted by: WilliamShipley | July 5, 2009 1:38 PM | Report abuse

She resigned for the good of Alaska.

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See why they're called dittoheads?

Good luck selling this one, Jake. "Quitter" is going to have much longer legs than "the good of Alaska." If she quit for the good of Alaska she should have been able to explain that in a way that at least passed the parse test.

Those soldier with their dedication to duty inspired me to .. resign.

Can't make this stuff up.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 5, 2009 1:33 PM | Report abuse

a Palin Presidential run will not be funded by the regular GOP-monied interests

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No it'll be funded by swing shift workers at Woolworth's and at meat-packing plants in the rural south. And by JakeD, dumping his cigar box of pennies, a few nickels, and three dimes, into a Coinstar machine.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 5, 2009 1:25 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe the vicious tone--and WHY are people attacking C.C.? After all, he took time out from his family holiday to post the Palin story which we've all been reacting to. Is that worthy of criticism? Really!

JakeD: It IS a free country, but as you seem to be on such close terms with the Deity, perhaps you should ask God if he really enjoys being quoted with such blithe abandon? I seem to recall a little something about not taking the Lord's name in vain--or has he given you a pass on that?

Finally, I somehow fail to see the logic of Palin's resigning because of an impending lawsuit. If she had remained as governor, especially in a state with the history of corruption which Alaska has, surely she would either be in a better position to defend herself or able to better quash the investigation as governor than as a private citizen?

Posted by: sverigegrabb | July 5, 2009 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Joe Biden says he's "not going to second-guess her" decision. "You have to respect [her personal decision]." George Will and Todd Purnum disagreed. Cynthia Tucker thinks that Hillary Clinton was more "unfairly criticized" than Sarah Palin. LOL!!!

"Only dead fish go with the flow."

Posted by: JakeD | July 5, 2009 1:18 PM | Report abuse

No, I missed it JakeD. Out taking the mutt for a walk.

Posted by: vbhoomes | July 5, 2009 1:08 PM | Report abuse

vbhoomes:

Did you watch "This Week" today?

Posted by: JakeD | July 5, 2009 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Oddly enough the threatening letter mentioned the Washington Post, which is odd because they haven't repeated allegations about kickbacks to her house.

Anyway, she can't be pinned down on that. The company sponsored her hubbie's snowmobiling, so they can always claim any special favors were for him, not for her. Sweet deal.

Posted by: Bud0 | July 5, 2009 1:06 PM | Report abuse

McArthur was fired by Truman and retired after his career was over.

Posted by: vbhoomes | July 5, 2009 1:01 PM | Report abuse

JakeD, I would concur Obama will be a one term President, especially if he wipes out what is left of the economy with Cap & Tax and Public Health Care, but the nominee will either be Mitt Romney or Haley Barbour. Sarah has taken herself out of the running whether she knows it or not, I'm not sure. I mean come on, her speech yesterday bordered on the bizarre, if not total lunacy.

Posted by: vbhoomes | July 5, 2009 1:00 PM | Report abuse

labman:

She's no more of a "quitter" than Gen. MacArthur. She resigned for the good of Alaska.

Posted by: JakeD | July 5, 2009 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Palin suffers from "Blues Brothers Complex".

She thinks she's on a mission from God. Therefore she is not beholden to the mundanities of her gubernatorial obligations.

Posted by: labman57 | July 5, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Wow, and I was convinced JAKED is James W. Von Brunn.

Is that you, Jimmy? Do they let you comment from your heavily guarded hospital room?

Posted by: coloradodog | July 5, 2009 12:54 PM | Report abuse

jimobrca:

That's exactly where we are headed, especially if the economy doesn't improve. One-term Carter, all over again.

Posted by: JakeD | July 5, 2009 12:53 PM | Report abuse

I find it incredible that some of her supporters insist that Palin is not a quitter. If it looks, talks, and acts like a duck, it is not a swan.

Palin was elected Governor of Alaska during a period of prosperity due to the overinflated prices on crude oil, and she rode the coattails of good fortune as her constituency profited while the lower 48 suffered at the gas pump.

Well, times have changed, oil prices (and hence state revenues) are down, and the same constituency and legislature that had applauded her folksy style have been scrutinizing her management style more carefully.

Bottom line, when the going gets tough, Sarah throws in the towel.

Posted by: labman57 | July 5, 2009 12:51 PM | Report abuse

gracie-mansion:

Assuming, of course, that your "President" is even a natural-born citizen -- you'd better hope no one ever finds proof to the contrary -- that's just one October surprise that could get Palin elected.

Posted by: JakeD | July 5, 2009 12:49 PM | Report abuse

I have been very patience with Palin.
She was an annoying little thing.The nerve and guts to suggest for a higher office is a brainless idea.She thought that she was oh so great....she's zero,nothing.
Mccain will always be a loser and so is Palin.She is unmasking herself for what she really is.......Quitter.She didn't quit once but twice.An aspiring President of quitters?????
God bless our beloved President Bam.

Posted by: gracie-mansion | July 5, 2009 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Jimobrca: As one of the few americans who have no strong feelings about Sarah, one way or the other, you just cannot quit in the middle of your 1st term and expected to be taken seriously as a Presidential Candidate, Yes the MSM and left have been unfairly vicious with her, but she has brought this last one on her and has confirmed what her critics always said about her, "She's unqualified to be President". I am someone who really disdains the MSM, but they have proven to be right about this one unfortunately.

Posted by: vbhoomes | July 5, 2009 12:20 PM | Report abuse

The ways in which Palin is considered by some people a potential candidate for president of this country, despite her manifest lack of qualifications for high national office and right wing ideology, shows how low the GOP, the party of Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt, have fallen. She seems to represent the political and ideological philosophy of Richard Cheney. Obama the leader of the right-centrist Democratic party could alienate the majority of progressives and still win at least 60% of the popular vote against Palin.

Posted by: Aprogressiveindependent | July 5, 2009 12:14 PM | Report abuse

No one doubted the Phalin resignation was "freighted" with 2012 implications. That wasn't the issue. The issue was whether she was running away from "something" (like the (alleged Wasilla construction contract scandal). Speculation in that regard is backed by the reporting of several Internet journalists. Hopefully the MSM, including the Post, will tell us what is really driving her decision. Her incoherent PR pronouncements (see Maureen Dowd's NYT column today) mean less than nothing.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | July 5, 2009 12:12 PM | Report abuse

"The broad message? Sarah Palin is here to stay -- whether you like it or not."
__________

Not if the (alleged) Wasilla, AK construction contract scandal is real. The issue is whether Mr. or Mrs. Phalin received any benefits from the company she (allegedly) helped get a $13 million contract that put the City heavily into debt (allegedly). The MSM seems WAY behind on this story which was broken by citizen journalists. Her boilerplate blanket denial is beside the point--wait 'till the facts come out.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | July 5, 2009 12:01 PM | Report abuse

As a Canadian I am fascinated by the utter hatred that the left has for Palin. I think it is even stronger then the hatred for W. What is going on with the left in your country? This is how Reagan got elected - the left attempted to demonize him, but unfortunately they demonized themselves. It looks like you have learned nothing from the past. This woman is going to become the leader of an anti-government movement that will sweep the left out of power in 2010. If the leftist had put even a quarter of the energy used to attack Palin into supporting progressive legislators and legislation you would be so much further ahead. Now it looks like 1977 all over again.... learn your history...please.

Posted by: jimobrca | July 5, 2009 11:51 AM | Report abuse

When it looks like governing in Alaska is going to be tough over the next year and a half, Palin's solution is to quit. She is a superficial joke. Prime evidence of her appalling lack of attention to detail is her attribution of a quote to MacArthur that was actually made by O.P. Smith, the commander of the First Marine Division. Good-bye and good riddance!

Posted by: blpeyton | July 5, 2009 10:30 AM | Report abuse

Cirque Palin is hitting the road again by resigning her governorship.
Supposedly she cannot stand the unfair criticism of herself and her family.
As illogical as this move seems it fits her modus operandi perfectly, erratic insanity.
Americans hate a quitter and they hate a whiner even worse.
By leaving her post for the rambling list of reasons in her "speech" she has proven herself to be both.

Posted by: seemstome | July 5, 2009 10:23 AM | Report abuse

If Palin really wanted to be president of something, she should have had Alaska secede while she still had the chance. That was her only hope.

Posted by: patrickschabe | July 5, 2009 10:23 AM | Report abuse

JakeD, you have too much confidence in the quality of "friends" one makes on facebook. They don't subscribe to National Review, they dont make donations to the Heritage Foundation or the American Enterprise Institute. They don't read newspapers or books (I know, neither does she). Many of them can't vote (too young, too lazy, house arrest, etc). They aren't influential, except maybe in their Mom's basement. They DO watch Fox, but certainly not the news. They can accomplish the couple of clicks it takes to make them one of Palin's *one million committed supporters.*

Palin's got a lot of charisma, but she needs to submit some of her willful impulsiveness to a team of minders. And she needed to do this 4 days ago.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | July 5, 2009 9:55 AM | Report abuse

If Palin wants to be a president of a country she had better move to another country as she has NO chance in the US. This was the best 4th of July present for our country.

Posted by: edanddot | July 5, 2009 9:55 AM | Report abuse

I find it amusing that so many of Palin's anal whiffers on this blog rjhapsodize about her getting a million hits on her facebook as though somehow that were stastically relevant. People--particularly partisans--get so caught up in this drivel that they really cannot see things as they really are from the air. There are between 300 and 400 million Americans today. The last election recorded 130 million voters with Barack Obama getting 54% of them. Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Chris Matthews--even the more venerated personalities on the Sunday talk shows--generally only command 1 to 3 million viewers or listeners at any given time.

My point is that getting a million hits on anything in a country as big and diverse as ours may be a good way to make a buck, sell a product or an idea, or even become famous for 15 minutes. But, it is statistically insignificant as a indicator of whether some personality or politician has any shot at becoming a serious contender in the fields of media, politics and entertainment.

Ten years from now, Obama will be a historical figure for good or ill. Palin, Limbaugh and others I have mentioned may still be at whatever it is they do--but history as it unfolds will likely not remember them at all. Fifty years from now, will Palin's name be remembered? Or Limbaugh's? Or Keith Olbermann's? Unlikely. But Obama's name will be there if for no other reason than he was the first.

Posted by: jaxas | July 5, 2009 9:52 AM | Report abuse

I think Palin is just going to cash in her celebrity and make some money. Surely after quitting the Governship, she's not serious about running for President. I admire her non comformist streak but she doesn't not have the temperment to be President. NODEBRIS: How come you failed to respond to my question of what books you have read in the last 8 weeks? Its what I suspected, you get all your information from watching TV. People like you who are quick to call people idiots are always deeply insecure about their own intelligence and education and hope nobody will actually challenge you. Give you one more chance(as I know if have been one this posting since my posting)what books have you read in the last 8 weeks? Seeing you feel comfortable calling posters on this site idiots, you have an obligation to prove you are not an idiot who never reads books.

Posted by: vbhoomes | July 5, 2009 9:51 AM | Report abuse

Jesus H. JakeD! What in the world does God and his purposes have to do with the likes of Sarah Palin? Assuming of coure (A) that He even exists at all or (B) that even if He does, why would he give a crap about any of this hoopla that takes place in the American political system?

There are going on 8 billion people on this planet JakeD and trust me, only a tiny fraction of them believe in this horse manure you believe in about "God and his purposes".

Posted by: jaxas | July 5, 2009 9:35 AM | Report abuse

JakeD

People like you really scare me.

Posted by: daweeni | July 5, 2009 9:33 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin will never run for the Senate. Anyone who thinks so is dumber than she is.

A spoiled, immature brat like Sarah Palin would never stand for being one out of 100. And all that work you have to do in the Senate -- bo-ring!

She will run for president, get trounced in the GOP primaries, and go off to a life of worthlessness.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | July 5, 2009 9:29 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin will never run for the Senate. Anyone who thinks so is dumber than she is.

A spoiled, immature brat like Sarah Palin would never stand for being one out of 100. And all that work you have to do in the Senate -- bo-ring!

She will run for president, get trounced in the GOP primaries, and go off to a life of worthlessness.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | July 5, 2009 9:29 AM | Report abuse

Chris, Sarah Palin doesn't get to decide this on her own. Look. If polls show her having any sort of decent shot, then maybe she stays. If not, she can run around the country all she wants furnishing you and other media sycophants drooling opportunities, but the people and the party will move on to a more serious candidate.

My own take is that you have some sort of vested interest in Palin remaining on the scene. You seem to take umbrage when someone suggests that she might not even be a vague memory by the time 2012 rolls around.

The only thing keeping her hopes alive is a mainstream media that sees her as nothing more than ratings and circulation fodder and a diminishing GOP political base that is completely out of step and out of fashion with the new growing electoral demographic in this country.

Posted by: jaxas | July 5, 2009 9:29 AM | Report abuse

I'd love to be a fly on Mitt Romney's wall. Here's a guy touting his expertise on the economy, with the country in an economic mess, probably thinking his timing couldn't be better, and then, Sarah! hits the front pages, the airwaves, and the blogosphere. And now she's famous for whining about press coverage and reneging on her commitment to Alaskans? And quitting her job because the best way to help the country is outside of government (with the exception of the presidency, of course). And up is down and down is up...oh, please! But poor Mitt - what could he ever do to top this, to show that's he, too is a serious candidate who puts the country first?

Posted by: -pamela | July 5, 2009 9:18 AM | Report abuse

kreuz-missile:

Not even Bush or Reagan could count on one million closest supporters -- a Palin Presidential run will not be funded by the regular GOP-monied interests -- it's also early, and she has way more supporters than Obama did four years ago. All things are possible for those who love God and are called to His Purpose.

Posted by: JakeD | July 5, 2009 9:04 AM | Report abuse

Sarah is here to stay, with no particular base, and nothing but worn out Republican campaign planks from which she asks "us" to join in "Making America Great".

We Dems like it, a lot. She really could be the republicans designated victim in 2012.

Of course, that leads to this question: Have the Republicans really given up on regaining the White House so soon?

Or is this the logical denoument of Goldwater/Reagan philosophy.

Posted by: ceflynline | July 5, 2009 8:46 AM | Report abuse

So Chris Cillizza believes the AK Gov resigned for a run up to 2012. Wow. Talk about a journo being smitten by a pol.

Chris, dig a little, get the real story, and get back to us with what you find, not what you think, k?

Posted by: fred_p_harris | July 5, 2009 8:11 AM | Report abuse

One Million Strong for Sarah Palin? Too bad it'll take about 70 million to win the next election...

Posted by: kreuz_missile | July 5, 2009 7:51 AM | Report abuse

Now, why would Sarah Palin's lawyer threaten legal action over a very narrow issue, whether the Palins had received any benefit from a construction project?? Sounds like the other shoe that we're all waiting to drop. Sarah Palin resigned -- why now? Is she hoping that folks will stop sniffing around the Wasilla Sports Complex and her ties to one of the major building supplies contractors and the simultaneous construction of her home by her husband and "some of his construction buddies."

Posted by: jacobson98 | July 5, 2009 7:28 AM | Report abuse

I hope Palin starts hiring some staff because the press conference she arranged and the statement she composed were a mess. A politician needs a big ego, but her's leads her to believe she can do everything herself and it will be just as good. She needs speech writers and campaign staff STAT.

Also, I am hoping that all my friends on the right who slammed Specter's party switch as self-serving political ambition beneath contempt are going to use the same words to describe Palin's walking away from her responsibility to the people of Alaska. Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | July 5, 2009 7:04 AM | Report abuse

My guess on what Sarah Palin is thinking:

"Screw Alaska. Show me the money."

Posted by: ikea1 | July 5, 2009 6:24 AM | Report abuse

Omyobama, the guy's not funning you. We would *love* for Sarah to be the nominee. Words cannot properly describe our yearning for that!

Did you see my note about 4 or 5 down? Check the second link. I hope Sarah bounces back to become the nominee.

Posted by: Prozrenie | July 5, 2009 3:47 AM | Report abuse

Anyone else who wants to join her closest supporters on Facebook: One Million Strong for Sarah Palin.

Posted by: JakeD | July 5, 2009 3:43 AM | Report abuse

Omyobama:

Excuse me for mistaking your dire questions as "cartwheels".

Posted by: JakeD | July 5, 2009 3:29 AM | Report abuse

Oh! Sarah, Sarah, Sarah. You may not have a candles chance in a hurricane, but you will make the next few years so much more interesting.

Posted by: AndyGarciaLongBeachCA | July 5, 2009 3:26 AM | Report abuse

Jake you really need to track this stuff just a lit-tle better.

We are leaping in the air and clicking our heels at the idea of a Democrat running against Sarah Palin.

We are waltzing across the room cross-eyed with delight.

Cartwheels, I tell you.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 5, 2009 3:17 AM | Report abuse

WAIT! CHECK OUT SARAH'S CRIB!

http://notionscapital.wordpress.com/2008/10/15/the-house-that-todd-built/

AND THIS UPDATE, which links that the people who built the expensive and dubious sports complex to Sarah's personal construction project (how many square feet is that thing?):

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-07-03/did-a-scandal-sink-the-uss-palin/?cid=hp:featureline

There may well be a logical explanation, and do be careful, because Sarah's lawyer is already threatening to sue all of us if we get any of the details wrong (kinda hara, though, since they're both figures, eh, counselor?). This thing may be about to blow sky-high, and Sarah's future in the sun is by no means assured. I love Chris Cillizza, though presumably *some* meaning must be ascribed to her hyperventilating and seemingly on the verge of tears giving that speech, which was very sloppily cobbled together and seemingly delivered in a panic. That said, the timing was perfect: the Press is gone for the weekend and the lack of coverage is shocking. MSNBC shut down all its regular shows Friday and CNN's Political Mann which ran 24 hours after Sarah's resignation had nothing on it (on Sarah, it instead ran an embarrassing giggle piece on how she might be a better runner than Obama).

Posted by: Prozrenie | July 5, 2009 3:06 AM | Report abuse

Omyobama:

If Gov. Palin is so unelectable, then you should be happy if she gains the GOP's top spot next time.

Posted by: JakeD | July 5, 2009 2:57 AM | Report abuse

"She just took care of those two limitations. Sarah is now free to hit the caucus states, free to support 2010 candidates and gain their allegiance, free to write and speak and raise money for her party. Go Sarah!"

And in the process gave herself an EVEN BIGGER handicap. Way to go!

Posted by: kreuz_missile | July 5, 2009 2:52 AM | Report abuse

Chris Cillizza:

Sorry that Gov. Palin interrupted your four-day weekend.

Posted by: JakeD | July 5, 2009 2:52 AM | Report abuse

To paraphrase: "There's no quitting in politics!!!" How could anyone trust this person ever again to cast a vote for her and have any trust that THIS time she'd get beyond her distaste for "lame duck" politics? While the far right wing nuts may think this brilliant, believe me, the rest of the country likes to know that the people it "hires" by election are going to stick around and do the job. Two weeks' notice is barely enough for McDonald's much less a "major" state (weren't we told that last fall?) And if you're telling me she's bowing to media scrutiny, are you out of your cotton picking mind to think that it'd be easier in the WH? Sorry, but she's just proven how totally incompetent and inappropriate she is for national office.

Posted by: Omyobama | July 5, 2009 2:49 AM | Report abuse

Two weeks ago, two PBS commentators had it just right. They said that there were two reasons that Palin would not be a serious contender for the 2012 nomination. One - because she was in Alaska, 5000 miles away from where political decisions are made in this country, and two- she was a sitting governor and could not leave her state for any significant amount of time.

She just took care of those two limitations. Sarah is now free to hit the caucus states, free to support 2010 candidates and gain their allegiance, free to write and speak and raise money for her party. Go Sarah!

Posted by: bookcollector | July 5, 2009 2:39 AM | Report abuse

chrisfox8: With all respect, I think most people underestimated Bush in the same way, prior to his two elections. I despise Palin (and Bush) and think she is a wing-nut. But I think her own grandiosity is likely to get the best of her: The presidential grub has begun eating at her, to paraphrase Lincoln.

Posted by: drjbgmail | July 5, 2009 2:28 AM | Report abuse

Yeah and so what?

Al Sharpton is here too stay and ran for President too!

What the media don't realized is we on the other side of the television noticed it'st the men and their hotsy-trosy they have for this women.

Chris Cilliza just don't do it for me. He seems like one who do a lot of butty kissing and his analysis be soooo off mark. He speaks from the point of view that he and his selected friends sees!

He's doesn't seem worldly enought to be a pundit. Just because he has a baby he nows get to give out his less than adequate opinion?

Hiatt show has a bunch of WUTZ! on staff!!

Posted by: danders5000 | July 5, 2009 1:56 AM | Report abuse

Yeah and so what?

Al Sharpton is here too stay and ran for President too!

What the media don't realized is we on the other side of the television noticed it'st the men and their hotsy-trosy they have for this women.

Chris Cilliza just don't do it for me. He seems like one who do a lot of butty kissing and his analysis be soooo off mark. He speaks from the point of view that he and his selected friends sees!

He's doesn't seem worldly enought to be a pundit. Just because he has a baby he nows get to give out his less than adequate opinion?

Hiatt show has a bunch of WUTZ! on staff!!

Posted by: danders5000 | July 5, 2009 1:56 AM | Report abuse

jon_mx:

I think you misinterpreted my remarks. What I meant was that as far to the left as Kucinich is, that's how far to the right Palin is.

Since there is more of the Republican base at the extreme right than there is of the Democratic base at the extreme left, I agree that Palin would get a bigger percentage of the votes than would Kucinich (although I think 20% is going a bit far); also, she has considerably more charisma than Kucinich and, if one hits the 'mute' button, is certainly more visually attractive.

That said, I still don't think that she is in any position to win the primary, let alone the general. I won't say that she couldn't be groomed by the right handlers, but if Bill Kristol couldn't rehabilitate Dan (potato with an 'e') Quayle's image, it would take a veritable Pygmalion to turn this Galatea into someone who could erase the ridiculous hijinks of the last year.

She will always, always, always be a polarising figure. If I may resort to a very tired cliché, you don't get a second chance to make a first impression.

Posted by: sverigegrabb | July 5, 2009 1:52 AM | Report abuse

drjbgmail: my guess is that three days prior she didn't know she was resigning.

Everything about this seems very suddent and unprepared. Usually her scripted remarks at least make sense, it's off the cuff that she babbles. Her resignation speech was babble. This was not a long-considered move.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 5, 2009 1:48 AM | Report abuse

A third piece of evidence, not widely reported, is that Palin visited the troops at Landstuhl Regional Medical Center last week (I was there), just prior to her resignation announcement. Why bother if you're retiring from national politics?

Interestingly, two or three days after she was there, Sec Def Robert Gates arrived to greet providers.

Posted by: drjbgmail | July 5, 2009 1:36 AM | Report abuse

As long as the Republican Party continues to use stupid platitudes, it will remain on life-support. As the call to end all abortions continues it could result in pulling the plug.
Girls are now reaching puberty in early elementary school and can become pregnant. Must a raped, pregnant eight year old girl carry the pregnancy to term? If a pregnant girl or woman could die because of the pregnancy, does the Republican Party say that the only option is death?
Those of us who believe in right to life include the sick and dying pregnant females.
How much hate and venom do the people have who will deny life to them?

Posted by: jhurley1 | July 5, 2009 1:24 AM | Report abuse

We'll see what happens in 2012.

Posted by: JakeD.
*********

Try 2026, after Trigg turns 18.

Posted by: edlharris | July 5, 2009 1:10 AM | Report abuse

From the LA Times:

"There is absolutely no truth to those rumors, that we're investigating her or getting ready to indict her," Special Agent Eric Gonzalez said in a phone interview Saturday. "It's just not true."

Gonzalez added that there was "no wiggle room" in his comments that could exclude any kind of probe.

Sorry Liberals but someday The Washington Post will either go out of business or hire a reporter, right now they seem content to spread rumors on MSNBC and pimp for Obama.

Posted by: robtr | July 5, 2009 1:01 AM | Report abuse

"Ok, most are missing the obvious. No one likes a quitter."

This is the big problem for Palin in 2012. Dole resigned the Senate because he was in the midst of a presidential campaign. Obama resigned after he was elected. I can't recall a single politicial who abaqndoned their office in mid-term, for no real apparent reason, not actively campaigning for anything else, who went on to win higher office. I definately see her in politics in the future, but more as a new Phyllis Schlafley who can set up a new committe to unite Focus on the Family, FRC, etc., into a neo-Christian Coalition type organization, but not as a credible candidate for office in the near future.

Posted by: kreuz_missile | July 5, 2009 1:01 AM | Report abuse

jon_mx, you may wish Palin to mastermind something for the party but she is narcissistic and completely self involved. The only thing that she can accomplish is for herself. There is a reason why so many who were attracted to her are disillusioned but if your fantasy helps you get through the Obama years, enjoy it.

Prior to Obama coming along I saw no hope for the Democratic Party. Frankly I do not see any person other than Obama who can bring this country together. Sarah Palin is the most Bush-like politician we have in this country. That will work for the 20% who could not recognize his ineptitude. Unfortunately for her but fortunately for the country being like Bush will not cut it. America will accept a Republican far sooner than another Bush.

Posted by: Gator-ron | July 5, 2009 12:35 AM | Report abuse

Ok, most are missing the obvious. No one likes a quitter. Recently a boxer stated he did not want to get beat up so he quit in a match. Boxers fight, within which they will get hit and maybe beat up. It comes along with the job. Similarly, politicians get into the game knowing they will be subject to scrutiny and speculation and rumors. It's part of the game. If you can't handle the game when it gets tough, then you don't deserve to be in politics. Pundits and groupies aside, Palin committed political suicide when she QUIT. Who wants a President who quits? No one, period. If you can't handle the heat of being governor, there is no way you can handle the heat of being President. Leaders don't QUIT. Palin is no leader.

Posted by: adrobinson | July 5, 2009 12:30 AM | Report abuse

The "poor Sarah" the victim game has started. What an egotistical, arrogant to think everyone is out to get her. Whining that the children of other politicians are left alone score no points with me or what I suspect is a lot of others. When you consistently use your children as campaign props, YOU'VE opened the door. I say do run for president in 2012 - plenty of not so flattering info already there plus plenty to come. When you claim the moral ground or in her case "ethics", the fall from grace is long and has a hard landing.

Posted by: ILDem | July 5, 2009 12:16 AM | Report abuse

Anyone who thinks Palin is going to "mastermind" anything more demanding than a trip to the toilet isn't playing with a full deck.

Note the narrative already being recited .. those media attacks forced her to quit. She isn't a quitter. She's a victim of persecution.

Cry me a river.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 5, 2009 12:10 AM | Report abuse

"780 billion porkulus package"

glad to know that conservatives now consider tax cuts to be pork, as over $300 billion of that package was tax cuts.

Posted by: kreuz_missile | July 5, 2009 12:06 AM | Report abuse

add a year to each of those, too early in the morning...

Posted by: kreuz_missile | July 5, 2009 12:00 AM | Report abuse

So far, all of the analysis is rubbish. Palin is not Kucinich. Kucinich is a one percenter. Palin is easily a 20 percenter. The simple fact is, Palin was in a no-win situation as governor and she got out. Every time Palin would try to do something remotely political, she got lawsuits and frivolous ethic violation complaints and media attacks. And every time she skipped an event, she got attacked by Romney/McCain supporters for not being serious enough. The media for weeks has been hitting the GOP over the head for not being able to find its voice. Palin is going to be that voice and she is going to mastermind behind a resurgence of the GOP in 2010, which is going to position Palin as a serious candidate down the road. Obama's big government policies are not sitting too well with mainstream America and his $780 billion porkulus package has been a complete failure.

Posted by: jon_mx | July 4, 2009 11:59 PM | Report abuse

Let's assume her lawyer isn't an idiot. Why did he send a letter that ensures every media outlet in the world will repeat the ethics allegations since he's called attention to them and given the press the legal cover to do so?

Posted by: marksabbatini | July 4, 2009 11:59 PM | Report abuse

Good article, Chris. It's been anyone's guess what this insane maneuver might really mean in Sarah World.

I feel for Republicans of good faith, if any are left out there. But as a Democrat who despises what the modern GOP has become under the tutelage of Atwater and Rove, I can think of nothing more delightful than Sarah making a full-tilt run for the nomination. It will be the final death rattle of that empty corpse of a party, and good riddance.

Posted by: nodebris | July 4, 2009 11:41 PM | Report abuse

Oh they're the rabble party, all right, and make no mistake, Jake is part of that rabble and votes Republican.

It just makes him feel all coooool to claim membership in an even freakier party. And to say shocking trollish things like "the Republicans are too liberal."

He's been saying the exact same things, word for word, in newspaper blogs all over the US for over three years.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 4, 2009 11:41 PM | Report abuse

JakeD thinks Palin will run on a New Independent Party. The Idiot Savant Babe and will run for president. I hope this will happen so that extremist like JakeD will feel estranged from the Republican Party. The Republican Party must no longer be the party for rabble.

Posted by: Gator-ron | July 4, 2009 11:33 PM | Report abuse

SARAN PALIN IS RUNNING -- FOR COVER.


When we finally find out from what, only the fringe will care.


***

Constant computer/internet problems? Can't access or post to certain web sites?

You could be a target of your local fusion center -- using warrantless surveillance as a pretext to harass and censor?


http://nowpublic.com/world/govt-fusion-center-spying-pretext-harass-and-censor

OR (if link is corrupted / disabled):

http://NowPublic.com/scrivener

Posted by: scrivener50 | July 4, 2009 11:26 PM | Report abuse

"Yeah in the next three and a half years she'll become smarter."

She doesn't have three years, she has a year and a half. The 2012 campaign will kick into gear right after the 2010 elections, and she needs to start building her organization now to hit the ground running then. This is why, even if it is her plan to cut and run from the governorship to avoid answering for her state's problems and to make it easier for her to travel, blaming the media for scrutiny (scrutiny deserving a fresh face on the national scene, sorry for you Palinites) and saying she needs tro put family first are going to be difficult to reconclile just over a year from now with ambitions for the Presidency.

Posted by: kreuz_missile | July 4, 2009 11:23 PM | Report abuse

Good old (or ought that to be 'Ole') Chris!

The quintessesntial political junkie. No (literal) fireworks tonight? You really ought to take a long weekend more often--esp. if it means such an excess of posts for us Fixistos to devour!

As for (about to be ex-) Governor Palin, I don't doubt that she's here to stay, but in what capacity? As a less articulate Ann Coulter? As the darling of Fox and the shrinking Republican base?

She's the closest thing to Dennis Kucinich that the Right has got (unless you count Michelle Bachmann, but the lads in the white coats will be coming for her soon enough).

Of course, I'm talking about political viability here--I respect Rep. Kucinich for his convictions, but there is a mainstream which, esp. if one is on the Republican side, candidates deviate from at their peril.

Most of all, at this stage Gov. Palin makes even less sense in her speeches than George W. Bush--and that's saying something. I just cannot imagine the more mainstream candidates such as Romney, or T-Paw, or 'candidate X' being ousted by Palin in her current incarnation.

However, 3.5 years is an eternity in politics--and there's no denying that Palin used to be able to bring in the $$$. The question is whether or not the Repub. base as a whole (not just the Evangelical wing of that far right base) will take a second round of that 'Cool Aid'.

US politics are simply AMAZING! Who needs TV (except to see more political shows and, it goes without saying, 'Friday Night Lights'). I'd come back from the grave to watch the developments!

Posted by: sverigegrabb | July 4, 2009 11:19 PM | Report abuse

July 3, 2008: I'm quitting as Alaska governor because I'm tired of the media scrutiny and need to care for my family.

January, 2010: I want to be President of the United States.

Sorry, I don't see any way you reconcile those two statements. It may be her intent, but it's incredibly stupid. I see the campaign now: Bailin' Palin '12

Posted by: kreuz_missile | July 4, 2009 11:18 PM | Report abuse

"Why would she need to quit being Governor to do that? You don't have the logistical issues that she would face in running for President since all the campaigning is in the state."

Logistical issues are the concern. First, she would have to answer for her record over the next 12-18 months in a terrible economy. That could hurt her in the short and long-term. Second, it gives her a break to prepare, plan, and strategize for the campaign.

"No, I'm certain she is running for President."

You may be correct. But I really would like to hear a compelling response to the Andrea Mitchell report that Palin told her national supporters that they were free to go looking for another candidate in 2012. Either that report is wrong (or intentionally misleading), Palin is out of politics for good (which seems implausible), or she's planning a run for the Senate (against the daughter of the former AK Governor whom she routed in the 2006 primary).

Like I said, you may be right, but if Palin really has Presidential aspirations, running for the Senate in 2010 as a stepping stone for 2016 makes a lot more sense to me.

Posted by: jgolby | July 4, 2009 11:01 PM | Report abuse

She'll run for the senate. good move!

Posted by: carlbatey | July 4, 2009 11:00 PM | Report abuse

Of course her attorney is worried. The "buddies" who helped Todd build that lakeside house were the contractors for the small town's huge sports boondoggle down the road, the same contractors who sponsor Todd's racing team.

See:

http://notionscapital.wordpress.com/2008/10/15/the-house-that-todd-built/

Posted by: MikeLicht | July 4, 2009 10:58 PM | Report abuse

One can only wonder if the Republican Party will allow itself to be cowed into giving the nomination to this harpy. Since there is no evidence that they care about winning, it's not at all unlikely.

Not only will her appeal be an order of magnitude too narrow to win, she will motivate Democrats more than anyone since Nixon to donate and go door to door to oppose her.

Make no mistake, Democrats want her to run. If Republicans go along then they must be harboring a death wish.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 4, 2009 10:41 PM | Report abuse

We'll see what happens in 2012.

Posted by: JakeD.

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Yeah in the next three and a half years she'll become smarter. She'' discover intellectual curiosity. She'll learn to put the responsibilities of her office ahead of her personal ambition.

Also pigs will grow wings and horses will learn to sing hymns.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 4, 2009 10:35 PM | Report abuse

Palin's 2012 Two-Step?

Thanks for the article Chris.

Democrats, Obamacans and Independents in training for 2010 and 2012 with our own dance routine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ3d3KigPQM

Vote Democrat in 2010 and 2012. We have a life. Join us!

Posted by: cooday | July 4, 2009 10:27 PM | Report abuse

"Sarah Palin is here to stay -- whether you like it or not." - Especially with guys like you leading the cheerleading squad. All the better for the Democrats in 2012!!! Long Live Palin.

PS. You must have a crush on the ex-Governor.

Posted by: bolisalindalae | July 4, 2009 10:27 PM | Report abuse

Oh please! Sarah and Todd cant sue anyone for libel or defamation.

They are public figures. End of lawsuit.

Posted by: bobnsri | July 4, 2009 10:19 PM | Report abuse

"I am really surprised that we aren't hearing much talk about Palin running for the Senate. A few observations to support this possibility:"

Why would she need to quit being Governor to do that? You don't have the logistical issues that she would face in running for President since all the campaigning is in the state.

No, I'm certain she is running for President.

Posted by: DDAWD | July 4, 2009 10:18 PM | Report abuse

We'll see what happens in 2012.

Posted by: JakeD | July 4, 2009 10:18 PM | Report abuse

SILLY Sarah belongs in the PTA as President or something.

Posted by: KYJurisDoctor | July 4, 2009 10:17 PM | Report abuse

You know they say that the terrorists only do sensational things because they draw media attention and if we ignore them, don't give them their stage, they will go away? Would that work in the case of Sarah Palin? Please mainstream media - ignore her! She's not that interesting.

Posted by: lindaj4 | July 4, 2009 10:11 PM | Report abuse

I am really surprised that we aren't hearing much talk about Palin running for the Senate. A few observations to support this possibility:

1. Much of her talk was focused on "serving Alaskans."
2. Lisa Murkowski came out hard with a statement against Palin.
3. Gives a plausible explanation for Palin leaving office right away.
4. Provides an opportunity to combat the lack of experience claim.
5. Would she really want to run against Obama in 2012?

Even if this isn't what Sarah really is doing, I think it could be a brilliant political move.


Posted by: jgolby | July 4, 2009 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is just awful.. brains,character, you name it.
Since I am a Democrat this is really great news that she intends to run.I was worried she was going to be out of it because of some serious offense.

Posted by: JDWPS | July 4, 2009 10:00 PM | Report abuse

Did a Scandal Sink the U.S.S. Palin?

http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=5670


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Posted by: usadblake | July 4, 2009 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Sarah is running get used to it. Energy Independence = jobs = economic recovery + national security.

The sexist leftist media and personal attacks from misogynists will be called on and held up for ridicule.

Posted by: Goldieaz50 | July 4, 2009 9:37 PM | Report abuse

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