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Sarah Palin's soundbite strategy



Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin addresses the national tea party convention in Nashville. AP Photo/Ed Reinke

Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin has mastered the art of the political soundbite and has used it to devastating -- and some would say irresponsible -- effect since emerging on the political scene in the fall of 2008.

Witness her speech at the national tea party convention over the weekend in Nashville, Tennessee.

"America is ready for another revolution," Palin said.

"When you're 0 for 3, you had better stop lecturing and start listening," she scolded the Obama Administration.

"How's that hopey, changy stuff working out?" she asked supporters of the president.

"We win, they lose," Palin responded when asked about her approach to the war on terror.

Palin's way with a folksy zinger is nothing new; it can be traced directly back to her emergence on the national stage at the 2008 Republican National Convention.

From her infamous "the difference between a pit bull and a hockey mom" line through "death panels" and right up to her speech last Saturday night, it's clear that whatever her other weaknesses in the political arena -- and they are considerable -- Palin understands how to deliver a soundbite.

Her critics roll their eyes at these lines, concluding -- rightly in many cases -- that simplifying incredibly complex issues down to a catch phrase is lowest common denominator politics that won't ultimately solve the major problems facing the country.

But, from a raw political perspective, Palin's soundbite strategy is extremely effective -- handing her supporters a single line (or two) around which to rally in opposition to the President's agenda.

Like it or not, the "death panels" idea she floated on Facebook wound up badly damaging the Obama Administration's push for health care reform -- helping to drive up doubts among seniors about what the plan would and wouldn't do. (Yes, we know that the death panel charge has been entirely debunked. But, is there any question that it slowed momentum for the bill in a significant way?)

Palin's ease around a soundbite stands in stark contrast to the preferred rhetorical approach of President Obama who clearly believes that the soundbite culture has led to the dumbing-down of politics and, as a result, resists engaging in it.

Obama has built his reputation as a politician on his "big" speeches -- from his address on race during the campaign onward he has distinguished himself by offering his ideas and beliefs in longer form speeches aimed at examining all sides of a problem before offering his solutions.

(Obama, of late, has given in a bit to the soundbite culture. In his state of the union address, he delivered several memorable one-liners including "I do not accept second-place for the United States of America.")

The simple fact of politics is that the party -- or candidate -- with the best soundbites (or slogans) often wins. "Morning in America," drove Ronald Reagan's electoral success. "It's the economy, stupid," was the rallying cry for Bill Clinton. And, "change you can believe in" propelled Obama in the primary fight and the general election.

The party with the ability to distill its message to fit on a bumper sticker often has the upper hand because in a busy and chaotic world, people are looking for the one word or the one phrase that defines what it stands for (and why). The longer it takes a candidate or a party to explain what they believe, the less effective that message will be. Period.

Palin grasps that concept intuitively and has spent much of the past year -- via Facebook -- dropping all sorts of soundbite hits on an Obama Administration that has repeatedly tried to explain their own policy proposals with a nuance and subtlety lost on many Americans.

There is, of course, a limit to how far a soundbite strategy will get you. While Palin's pithy one-liners win her applause from like-minded crowds and help influence the debate, she remains poorly regarded by major swaths of the population who believe she is not adequately equipped to serve as president. (In a Bloomberg poll conducted late last year, just 25 percent said Palin was qualified to be president while a whopping 67 percent said she was not.)

Palin's refusal to give any interviews to members of the media or offer any sort of detailed policy proposals of her own speak to a glaring weakness in her overall strategy.

Soundbites -- even when delivered with the skill Palin displays -- are not, in the long run, a substitute for substance and won't persuade those who have doubts about her that they misjudged her abilities.

If Palin does decide to run for president in 2012 -- and everyone we talk to says she hasn't made that decision yet -- she'll need to step beyond the comfortable bounds of the soundbite and into a broader discussion of where she stands on the major issues of the day and why.

Her ability to turn a phrase has attracted the attention of a significant swath of the political world. But, what will she do now with so many eyes on her?

By Chris Cillizza  |  February 9, 2010; 11:58 AM ET
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dealing warcards is not a good deal..

Posted by: Wildthing1 | February 15, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

You write: "Yes, we know that the death panel charge has been entirely debunked."

Why don't you just use Palin's sound-bite strategy and call her claims what they really are: A BALD-FACED LIE!

Posted by: jholm | February 11, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Several of those commenting above have doubled up on Ms. Palin's jibes at President Obama's experience teaching at the University of Chicago. Perhaps they - or you - would find of interest an article in today's edition of "Inside Higher Ed."

Professor in Chief
(or uppity Professor in Chief)
February 10, 2010
Barack Obama has been called a lot of things since he hit the national stage: Celebrity, elitist and even one who “pals around with terrorists.” But as his poll numbers come back down to earth, and an emboldened conservative movement sharpens its attacks, the label that seems to be sticking to Obama as much as any lately is that of “professor.”

Speaking to Tea Party activists in Nashville last week, Sarah Palin did her part to keep the “professor” dig in circulation.

"They know we're at war, and to win that war we need a commander in chief, not a professor of law standing at the lectern,” the 2008 Republican vice presidential nominee told a frenzied crowd.

Obama’s years on the University of Chicago’s faculty have proven a double edged sword. While his supporters accept his higher education experience as evidence of a thoughtful pragmatism, the “professor” label has just as easily been used as a bristly brush, painting the president as an out of touch dreamer who formed theories in the Ivory Tower that can’t be translated into concrete policies from the White House.

The attacks on Obama aren’t new to politics, and they reveal longstanding stereotypes about the professoriate that continue to speak to a subsection of the electorate for whom higher education is regarded with skepticism, a number of political thinkers and academics said in interviews.

“When Palin and others describe Obama as professorial in style, they are invoking themes and tropes that have a long history in American politics,” says Neil Gross, an associate professor of sociology at the University of British Columbia. “That longstanding tendency in American politics is also in this case being drawn together with an implicit criticism of liberal professors, which really only became a mainstay of conservative discourse in the 1950s.”

The full article on anti-intellectualism in the American political tradition is at

http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2010/02/10/obama

Posted by: Pokeyboy | February 10, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

What is it about Mrs. Palin that so disturbs the left that more than a year after they won their election they still find it necessary to do their very best to demonize and destroy her?

This is a serious question to which I will probably get the usual ad hominem attacks directed at her intelligence or her daughter, or some other mindless chatter.

Would we have been better served by that charlatan John Edwards as VP? Or even for that matter are we being better served by Joe Biden that happy go lucky magpie of walking miss-quotes?

Whether or not you agree Mrs. Palin was the ELECTED mayor of an Alaskan town who made enough of a name for herself to make a run for Governor of the entire state. She did take on the established Republican bigwigs of her own party before, during, and after that election with enough steel in her spine and success on her resume to attract the attention of some powerful politicos in Washington. The only thing Obama ever actually ran was a community drive to remove asbestos from some old buildings in Chicago. His past record almost from the day he was born are still shrouded in darkness either because no one has any records or those records have been purposefully locked away from public view.

Do any of you remember all the cross talk about who was the smarter man during both of Bush's runs for office. Was it Gore or Kerry since of course no one would give Bush the time of day as far as brains went? We all got a look at their actual academic records and it turned out that the only difference between Bush and Gore was that Bush went on and completed graduate school and Gore didn't. Beyond that there wasn't a slip of papers difference in their average grades. Where are Obama's college records? Under lock and key along with virtually all of his papers from his time in the Illinois legislature. Papers that I would think are legitimately in the public domain since he was serving as an elected PUBLIC official.

Those of you who have not succumbed totally to the dark side of the leftist ideology might just want to do a little independent digging for information that doesn't try so hard to make Obama look good.

Posted by: Sproing | February 10, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

If it's true that both versions of the health care reform legislation that are being kicked around at the moment (there is no ONE version yet) each contain language ( which they do if you'd bother to read them) that let's government appointed panels adjudicate just what treatments well be available and which won't depending on a variety of things from general overall health to age to whatever else might be in there, then it's no great stretch to look at those as being "death panels" since in many ways they will unalterably mean death for some and not for others.

We've always had a tough time in this country dealing straight up and down with language and this is one of those areas. There comes a point when the cost to maintain life is simply too high to ask society as a whole to bear the burden when resources are as limited as they are. If an individual or family has the resources and the desire to spend them to prolong a life 1-6 months then that is there choice to make. If, on the other hand your asking society in general to bear that cost on your behalf then you have to expect that society might not make the same decision as you would since they have any number of competing uses for those limited resources.

If you had a million dollars available and you had to choose between spending it to prolong one life or invest in medical research that was close to finding a cure for just one type of cancer which would you vote for?


Posted by: Sproing | February 10, 2010 1:42 PM | Report abuse

So:
Palin dumb, Obama smart.
Palin ignorant, Obama informed.
Palin political, Obama authentic.
Palin wrong, Obama right.
Americans dumb, Obama subtle.
Palin not electable, Obama a natural choice.

Hmm, I wonder where your beliefs lie?
Oh, you just support smart people over dumb ones, right?
Still, Gallup has Palin behind Obama by 6 points in a hypothetical matchup: 49-43.
Stupid Americans, I guess they don't see that she is bankrupt of ideas, not really interested in helping people, and that Obama is too cool for school...

Posted by: johnL1 | February 10, 2010 1:02 PM | Report abuse

"some would say"? Cilizza, you forgot to mention any of these critics by name. If you can't identify anyone else by name, then you should have just written "I would say"... you know, just to be accurate.

Posted by: JBaustian | February 10, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Chris the problem is that we do understand what this President and his Administration is doing to our country. Why do you think his issues are not so popular.

Posted by: kramerv43 | February 10, 2010 12:05 PM | Report abuse

We were leading manufacturing at the time with new industries such as aviation and electronics growing by leaps and bounds. A housing boom, stimulated in part by easily affordable mortgages for returning members of the military, added to the expansion. We had a monopoly on car manufacturing, and our economy prospered from war manufacturing, then rebuilding Europe, not to mention the American work force changed significantly.

Those days are over, unless you want more wars. There would have to be significant innovations in technology to necessitate a bubble, which caused our recent economic woes. We've outsourced our manufacturing, restructured our monetary policy and run up a huge amount of debt while entitlements continue to balloon. Spending will not get us out of this mess. Quite the contrary.
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Noacoaler wrote:

ExACTly. And they would help here too, just like they did back when Eisenhower was president; 91% top tax rates and your prediction of malaise DIDN'T HAPPEN, we were swimmingly prosperous, the economy soared.

Posted by: 2partsgin | February 10, 2010 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin really is pretty, though, isn't she?

And pretty dangerous.

She is best suited to sit right between O'Reilly and Beck with her own right-wing-crazy talk show. The ratings would be through the roof.

Actually, I would love it if the Repubs did put her up against Obama in 2012. Can you imagine THAT debate? It would be hilarious.

But I don't think it will happen. I think that she baled out of the Governor role turns off too many people. She should have run for the senate. Then she would have been living in Washington, rather than Alaska, and bolstering her resume.

It is rather disturbing, however, that so many Americans think she has substance...

Posted by: SamanthaAdams | February 10, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Unfortunately.. the whole idea of our system is based on the popular vote.. one side gets more uneducated, dumb and uninformed voters to vote for them.. than the other side does. You can't present a healthy and intelligent debate .. and get the attention that you need to win the election. We have built a very dumbed down culture.. albeit organically.

Posted by: newbeeboy | February 10, 2010 7:13 AM | Report abuse

Harsh words from a QUITTER!

Posted by: unbeatensnail | February 10, 2010 5:35 AM | Report abuse

Chris Cillizza is so "subtly nuanced" like a sledge hammer; implying that Palin and others can't grasp Obama's subtle nuances.
This is a ludicrously biased view of the truth; which is that Obama tells so many lies that the mystery is always: what will tomorrows presidential whining bring?
The writer tries to obfuscate his/her elitist snobbery,which shows itself clearly as effete intellectual thuggery;
Probably learned from the White House.

Posted by: jtayloe | February 10, 2010 3:18 AM | Report abuse

First of all the death panel idea was not adequately debunked. You can't take 500 billion out of medicare without a reduction in services, that would of course put a panel in charge of deciding who gets what procedure. Second, Obama and the elites love of nuance and complexity is simply a way of saying to the public these issues are way to complicated for you to understand, so shut up and we''ll figure it out....Palin speaks in broad and bold initiatives like Ronald Reagan that the people could get their arms around. That's why he won two landslide victories.
She doesn't need to get into complexity, because the people want the president to present a vision that's understandable and simple, like smaller government, less taxes, reduce spending, and strong national defense.... Do you think Ronald Reagan himself developed all those weapons systems that won the cold war? No, he put forward a vision and plan to bankrupt the soviet Union, and it worked. He set the economic conditions to cause 21 million new jobs to be created by simple things like lowering taxes and regulation and getting the government out of the way of the private sector....Palin knows what works, Obama governs in theory and intellectual gobble degoop...Like she said a professor of law standing behind a lectern...Only 8% of his administration has any experience in the private sector. They are all from academia, and know nothing about creating jobs...They are all Keynesians that believe government spending and expansion is the magic bullet to turn the economy around...In Conclusion all Palin has to do is speak in broad and popular common sense terms and the country will unite around her....Read: Lame Stream Media...Redux...at.....
http://cooperscopy.blogspot.com/

Posted by: ronsuev | February 10, 2010 1:13 AM | Report abuse

So shes's good at farting through her face-all gas and the substance that is in her can be understood from that.

Posted by: tuonela | February 10, 2010 1:04 AM | Report abuse

@Noa,

And of course, Japan spends $2581 per capita, people live to 83, and they use the system 12 (yes twelve) times or more per year.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | February 10, 2010 12:59 AM | Report abuse

@Noa,

How about New Zealand. Spends $2500 per capita, people live to 81, and people access the system 4 times a year.

And Australia. Spends $3137, people live to 82 and use the system on the avg 4 x year.

We spend $7300, people live to 78, and we use the system 0-3 times per year.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | February 10, 2010 12:57 AM | Report abuse

37th, you're a god damn moron. Shut up and go away.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 10, 2010 12:50 AM | Report abuse


12BarBlues, that graph is fantastic. WOW. How much we spend, how
little we get for it. Note Japan, living into their 80s despite under a third our costs.

Gotta love that free market!

Posted by: Noacoler | February 10, 2010 12:34 AM
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I'm glad you went to the graph. Isn't that something? Everyone should look at how the developed nations' healthcare systems compare to each other in terms of costs and average age and average # trips to the doctor.

Then, we will be dealing with the real issue and that is "why can every other developed nation spend half as much, get better outcomes and provide more access to the healthcare system than the US does?"

http://blogs.ngm.com/.a/6a00e0098226918833012876a6070f970c-800wi

Posted by: 12BarBlues | February 10, 2010 12:49 AM | Report abuse

Obama is attempting to blame the Republicans - but he should be blaming the democrats


The democrats are the ones who couldn't get it together last year.


The democrats are the ones who did the backroom deals with

the pharmaceutical companies,

the doctors,

the unions -

Mary Landreau, and

Ben Nelson -


AND THAT IS WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT.


The voters in Massachusetts are the ones who ended this chapter - not the Republicans.


If Obama can not accept the central reality - I really do not know what to say.


Let me be clear: it was the democrats who killed the health care bill.


The other central reality here is that the American people DO NOT want the health care plan.


If Obama thinks the democrats in Congress still want to vote for it in an election year, then he is sadly mistaken.


BUT Obama appears to be under an even different DELUSION.


Obama appears to now be DEMANDING that the Republicans support an unpopular health care plan - a plan that the American people do not want.


AND Obama is insisting that the "compromise" plan include universal coverage which means a massive government program.


If Obama can't get his own democrats to vote for an unpopular plan (which appears to be the case) then why does Obama think the Republicans are going to vote for that same unpopular program.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 10, 2010 12:41 AM | Report abuse

12 bar blues,

Too cheap to pay for it yourself like the rest of us do? Since you've spent your life living like a grasshopper, do you now want the ants to hustle to your defense?

Go join a union. I hear they have excellent health plans -- plans that the Dems made sure were insulated from any Cadillac taxes.

There are a lot of kids who choose not to have insurance because they think they are healthily invincible. When I was 25, I knew quite a few, but I always made sure I purchased health insurance just in case. Is your daughter invincible?

Posted by: unclesmrgol | February 10, 2010 12:33 AM
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1. I want to pay insurance premiums. No insurance company will cover me (cancer, 10 yrs ago). I'm not asking for free anything.

2. Another poster, Mike USMC, has a niece who is 25 and is uninsurable because of some problem with her stomach. You want to beat up on him?

3. I'm self employed. Don't think there is a union for CPA's. Guess I could go into plumbing, but at my age, it might be kind of hard.

4. I was insured as an employee for 25 years, then full COBRA for 18 months, then in a small group plan for couple of years until small groups became illegal. So, don't tell me I was a grasshopper.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | February 10, 2010 12:41 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin represents the uneducated and misinformed followers of
Fox News. One sided commentaries of a frightening right wing agenda are a virus spread from infectious 24 hour programs competing for an audience.
Walter and Rather were the real reporters with facts and integrity in one hour or less.(The ultimate reality shows)

Posted by: sparkle5 | February 10, 2010 12:35 AM | Report abuse

12BarBlues, that graph is fantastic. WOW. How much we spend, how
little we get for it. Note Japan, living into their 80s despite under a third our costs.

Gotta love that free market!

Posted by: Noacoler | February 10, 2010 12:34 AM | Report abuse

12 bar blues,

Too cheap to pay for it yourself like the rest of us do? Since you've spent your life living like a grasshopper, do you now want the ants to hustle to your defense?

Go join a union. I hear they have excellent health plans -- plans that the Dems made sure were insulated from any Cadillac taxes.

There are a lot of kids who choose not to have insurance because they think they are healthily invincible. When I was 25, I knew quite a few, but I always made sure I purchased health insurance just in case. Is your daughter invincible?

Posted by: unclesmrgol | February 10, 2010 12:33 AM | Report abuse

It's incredible that the news media spends so much time trying to jab, stab and rid themselves of the Palin thorn - little do they know that they're advancing her presence throughout the world.

For example: look at the waste of time poking fun of her writing on her hand, but then we all are aware that Obama's teleprompter is used 24/7 even when speaking to his dearly beloved Democrats.

It seems to me that Americans are more interested in jobs, stopping foreclosure, paying down the National Deficit etc.

Palin loves all of the negative comments, because most are so comical that they only tend to endear her to Americans.

May God Bless AMerica

Posted by: annie21 | February 10, 2010 12:26 AM | Report abuse

@ Noa and others who are interested. If you want to see how the US compares to other developed nations on healthcare, there is a graph which is ASTOUNDING.

http://blogs.ngm.com/.a/6a00e0098226918833012876a6070f970c-800wi

From National Geographic. Have to enlarge it.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | February 10, 2010 12:24 AM | Report abuse

@Noa,

Sadly you might be right. Maybe people can be more invested in some bravo sierra ideology than their own self interest.

I always think that people who walk in the other guy's shoes suddenly get it. Maybe I'm speaking for myself, because I sure didn't understand the problem of the uninsurable until I became one.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | February 10, 2010 12:21 AM | Report abuse

Martial, the following seven words were written in the first incident on Palin's palm. I've arranged them as they were phrased:
1) energy
2) crossed out word "budget"
3) "tax cut"
4) "lift american spirits"

In the second incident, after huffpost posted a picture of her palm, she wrote the following two words on her palm and then, without saying anything, made sure photographers got them at a good angle:
5) Hi
6) Mom!

Posted by: unclesmrgol | February 10, 2010 12:20 AM | Report abuse

12Bar: you kiddin'? These guys could lose a child to insurance screwing them over and on the way home from the funeral they'd be praising our glorious free way of life and the deregulated free market most of all. I think you greatly underestimate how willingly rift wingers will work against their own interests in the name of their abhorrent beliefs.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 10, 2010 12:13 AM | Report abuse

12BarBlues


This is the situation - the democrats have decided to start telling people that they will find a way to pay these bills if you vote for them.

WHAT the democrats did not tell you, is they intended to create a massive system in which they are talking money from one set of people to pay the bills of another set of people.

The money has to come from somewhere.

Yea, they have tried to tell you that the money was going to come from evil insurance companies - but the evil insurance companies get their money from somewhere - where do you think that is.


The democrats want you to vote for them - and this is their latest plan.

Well, most democrats are really really vague about the numbers - because they don't know them - they figure that somehow they are giving people something for free and it will all work out somehow.


But that really is not true, is it?

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 10, 2010 12:10 AM | Report abuse

Has anyone figured out what was written on the Former Governor's palm? Was it obscene?

Posted by: Martial | February 10, 2010 12:06 AM | Report abuse

@Noacoler,

I'm with you on this. It sure seems that people who have insurance have all these great principles about insurance (that amount to I've got mine and to hell with you). People who can't get insurance are just begging, they don't really care how or who provides it. I'm willing to pay the premiums.

I just don't get how the insurance companies can figure out how to cover pre-existing conditions for all employees, but not for people who are self employed. And then to have people defend that practice! I g*d_damn_guarantee it they would be singing another tune if they were uninsured.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | February 10, 2010 12:06 AM | Report abuse

12Bar:  you kidding?  You're talking to two people who'll defend the insurance companies' right to rob them blind till they keep over from some treatable disease.

What I fidn most laughable is that these are the very same people who crow about the endless virtue of self-interest and project their conceit about spending their money more wisely than "some bureaucrat," yet they think their self-interest is in some way congruent with being robbed blind by people who already have obscene amounts of money.  They'll defend their robbers to the skies, but hey that's what we get after 30 f*cking years of Grover Norquist and "the magic of the marketplace."
Ever met a heroin addict?  Talking about loving dope and don't know they're dying even if you point out the infections running up and down their arms?

Same thing.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 9, 2010 11:57 PM | Report abuse

@Martial,

LOL. I liked the violins in the background.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | February 9, 2010 11:57 PM | Report abuse

The Former Governor might do well to evaluate this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91lQK5SCzlQ

Posted by: Martial | February 9, 2010 11:50 PM | Report abuse

12BarBlues


Send the bill to Obama - the democrats said if you vote for them, they would pay for it.

How is that working for ya?


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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 9, 2010 11:46 PM | Report abuse

Hey Chris, do you write this BS while you are in the MSNBC studio with thrill up his leg Mathews? Both of you with knee pad on waiting for Obama to show up?

Obama thinks soundbites dumb down politics? You mean like Hope and Change, It's Bush's fault, transpariency, CSPAN will be in the room, I inherited (how many frigging times has this whiner used that one?) Mistakes of the past, restore Americas Image abroad (how is that working out for you?)

Was it the speech on race where racist Obama referred to his grandmother that raised him (because both of his parents abandoned him) as a typical white person or was that in his book where he spoke with joy about his cocaine and pot abuse. I forget as he can't seem to keep his mouth shut and govern the country instead of talk about himself.

One final question, when you go over to MSNBC do they have knee pads for you there that you all share or do you have to bring your own?

Posted by: robtr | February 9, 2010 11:45 PM | Report abuse

USMC Mike wrote: My cousin is 25, has a pre-existing stomach thing, and she can't get insurance. I do not think she has to go bankrupt. Nor should you.
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So what are you willing to do about it? Because she WILL go bankrupt over it. She's only 25, there's a lot of years for things to go wrong. Me, I'm 61. As long as I can stay out of hospitals, I'll probably make it without going bankrupt.

The last time I had to have a surgery and radiation, it cost me $85,000 and that was 10 years ago.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | February 9, 2010 11:41 PM | Report abuse

I simply gave you one basic reason why some countries can afford to provide. Of course, the 60% tax rates also help

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ExACTly.  And they would help here too, just like they did back when Eisenhower was president; 91% top tax rates and your prediction of malaise DIDN'T HAPPEN, we were swimmingly prosperous, the economy soared.  According to you we'd be pushing shopping carts.
You manage to work in your revulsion for Socialism in every post, I suspect you know no more about it than the rest of the goobers who post here, just some right-wing cartoon about people being unmotivated.  Ever been to a Socialist country?  I have.  I vacation in one every year and in a few more years I won't be coming back.  I'll be living about 60 miles from Saigon in a palatial house I've designed and had built, now just about completed, in a place where the hammer and sickle flies proudly in the breeze.

Under our guy Thieu all the money went to cronies, under Socialism there are hospitals and schools going up everywhere, literacy is better than here.
Sounds like just about everything you know is wrong.  Especially that BS about the marketplace.  At the very least you should take note of having to make excuses for your country not measuring up on so many fronts.  And as for that military spending, why exactly do we do that?  And why should it work any better for us than it did for the Soviet Union?  Why do we need to spend more on armaments than the rest of the world combined?

Posted by: Noacoler | February 9, 2010 11:38 PM | Report abuse

"I'm not trying to defend the current system (which has brought the best healthcare to the most number of people in the history of the world)"

The parenthesized part of that sentence, which is shear ignorance, makes a lie of the rest of it.

Posted by: jibal | February 9, 2010 11:37 PM | Report abuse

JohnEINC wrote: Let's remember - If an insurance company is FORCED to cover someone with pre-existing conditions, it is no longer insurance. Lets at least be honest about what we are trying to do here.
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Think about this. Health insurance companies cover everyone (including pre-existing conditions) for employer provided health insurance policies. That is about 85% of the insured. It is only in the individual policy market that pre-existing conditions are excluded.

So why is it defined as insurance if the person is employed, but not insurance if the person is self employed?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | February 9, 2010 11:34 PM | Report abuse

Chris needs to hustle over to her facebook page and read a little bit. Try http://www.facebook.com/notes/sarah-palin/condolences-to-the-murtha-family/291180798434
this one for starters, and then work down.

Posted by: unclesmrgol | February 9, 2010 11:33 PM | Report abuse

I see the snow has clouded the minds of the already small-minded. "Sharah Pealin, you betcha! How's all that Soccer Momsey-Pit Bullsey stuff workin' out for ya? At Foxy Newsy Tipsy Twosy?" Gosh, I can see you can see China from Alaska and Russia from your office at Fox News. And we are to take you seriously? Dope de dope. Another redneck drama queen, nah.

Posted by: mshughes | February 9, 2010 11:14 PM | Report abuse

Obama: brilliant professor of law, strong executive skill, unknown to POTUS in a few years

Palin: barely average intelligence, incurious and dull, impatient with detail, ignorant, barely literate, mayor of a town of 7000 in singlewides, briefly governor of a state with fewer people than a modest city.

You think Obama created these economic conditions? You must have the mind of a child, the memory of a tapeworm

Posted by: Noacoler | February 9, 2010 11:06 PM | Report abuse

Interesting article to say the least in regards to Gov Palin. She needs to give interviews to the media? What does the dunderhead Cilliza call Chris Wallace?

She can be the next president of the United States. Barack Obama (BO) has already proven that it takes very little intellect and zero experience to become President.

One interesting statistic BO has delivered more months of unemployment in his first 13 months then George Bush did in 8 years.

Posted by: jdripper07 | February 9, 2010 11:00 PM | Report abuse

Tancredo has a grandmother who came here from Italy generations ago, whom he visits many times
per year. She has never learned English. In addition to being Republican filth, he's a complete hypocrite.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 9, 2010 11:00 PM | Report abuse

Tea baggers Tancredo R Colorado, suggests literacy tests! What a concept, but unAmerican for voters, Jim. We need ALL politicians to pass a civics and literacy test before they can run for office, or be interviewed. Palin has already failed.

Posted by: u2canfail | February 9, 2010 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Palin is what she is. STUPID Her partner and fellow speaker at the Hate Convention, Republican Tom Tancredo said something. He said, Barack Obama was elected because "we do not have a civics, literacy test before people can vote in this country." I don't agree. That is unAmerican, but I will suggest a "civics literacy test" for all politicians. We already know Sarah can't pass one.

Posted by: u2canfail | February 9, 2010 10:25 PM | Report abuse

You are arguing with a commie pinko fag ped with no sense in her little head.You are arguing with a commie pinko fag ped with no sense in her little head.

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take your meds

Posted by: Noacoler | February 9, 2010 10:11 PM | Report abuse

Look at the hair weave, the spray tan and her talking points. the memo to self. Such a farce! Sarah Palin is funny.

If you think she is not funny, you can not be a serious person.

Sadly, not being a serious person does not mean you are funny.

Posted by: shrink2 | February 9, 2010 9:59 PM | Report abuse

If free markets do not work, how is our country so successful?

You shot nothing down in healtcare. USMC and myself gave a series of arguments as to why we DO NOT want government healthcare. You did not give one single argument as to why we should other than to say "well, other people have it".

See, I am one of those people that worked my tale off when given the slightest chance and I excelled and succeeded - through my own hard work. I have earned the right to keep MY money, not to give it to some dirty politician so he can spread it to some lazy piece of crap.

You help the weak and the helpless, not those that choose not to help themselves.

Would univesal healthcare be successful to you, if my taxes as a business owner went up, and I then laid off 25% of my workforce - downsized and relaxed, worked less and put the same money in my pocket. Try thinking all ramifications thru before you spout off.

I simply gave you one basic reason why some countries can afford to provide. Of course, the 60% tax rates also help - but then again, the socialist economic system also stagnates the progress of their countries - thus why the U.S. has far surpassed them in 200 short years, vs the thousand plus years for each of them.

Posted by: JohnEinNC | February 9, 2010 9:57 PM | Report abuse

Sure chose a great time to talk about free markets creatin' jobs...

Posted by: Noacoler | February 9, 2010 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Shot you down on healthcare, now you're talking about employment.

What color is the sky on your planet?

Free markets DON'T WORK.

And that's a fact.

Go spank it to pics of Lee Raymond why don't you. Keep your myths, I'll stick with the facts.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 9, 2010 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Noacoler, the free market is what has made the country the greatest, most advanced, most powerful nation in the history of the world in just 200 years. I got news for you - the socialist countries of Europe were dragged to their current economic levels because of our innovation.

In addition - the other industrialized nations that you speak so fondly of, get to spend so much money on social programs BECAUSE OF THE UNITED STATES. News flash - France can be France because of us. If we did not exist in our current form as a military force, the other industrialized nations would be forced to spend a large portion of their GDP on military defense or face the possiblity of becoming an old style soviet satellite nation or part of a huge islamic republic.

Instead of looking at a small microcosim - try seeing the big picture. I could go on about free market creating jobs, etc, but I am sure it would escape your shallow mind.

Posted by: JohnEinNC | February 9, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

All industrialized countries WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE UNITED STATES.

Bububububut Cubans try to get here in innertubes, right?

You creeps and your god damn myths...

Posted by: Noacoler | February 9, 2010 9:29 PM | Report abuse

But hey we're numba one because uh.... uhhh... well anyway Reagan sure showed them commies...

Posted by: Noacoler | February 9, 2010 9:24 PM | Report abuse

A free market is an immature and inefficient 19th century system every other industrialized nation has outgrown. For-profit basic healthcare is ILLEGAL everywhere but here.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 9, 2010 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Hey, Mike:
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_health_care
 
 
Universal health care is health care coverage for all eligible residents of a political region and often covers medical, dental and mental health care. Typically, costs are borne in the majority by publicly-funded programs.

Universal health care is implemented in all industrialized countries, with the exception of the United States.[1] It is also provided in many developing countries."

why don't you pound your chest some more about dis great nation. 
 

Posted by: Noacoler | February 9, 2010 9:13 PM | Report abuse

Plenty of other countries have healthcare for all, not excluding a sixth of their citizens. The difference is that theirs is not market-based, so its goal is coverage, not maximizing profit.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 9, 2010 8:28 PM | Report abuse

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Noacoler, you hit the nail on the head. Their goal is coverage. In the U.S. our goal is results! The free market strives for the best results, that's what makes our system great.

We need to tweak it to help the most unfortunate - not to punish 85% of the country or to subsidize people that don't want to work.

Posted by: JohnEinNC | February 9, 2010 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Maybe berry should have written corpseman on his hand.

Or "only 50 states".

Posted by: Moonbat | February 9, 2010 9:06 PM | Report abuse

You are arguing with a commie pinko fag ped with no sense in her little head.

She is so desperate for attention she says and DOES whatever it takes.

Face in pillow. Visit to the sandbox. Know what I mean.

Posted by: Moonbat | February 9, 2010 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Name one of the "plenty", if you dare.

Posted by: USMC_Mike | February 9, 2010 8:43 PM | Report abuse

It's going to keep snowing in DC until Al gore cries uncle.

Posted by: Moonbat | February 9, 2010 8:43 PM | Report abuse

I'm not trying to defend the current system (which has brought the best healthcare to the most number of people in the history of the world);

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Patently false, chest-pounding patriotic schmalz of no interest to anyone.

Plenty of other countries have healthcare for all, not excluding a sixth of their citizens. The difference is that theirs is not market-based, so its goal is coverage, not maximizing profit.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 9, 2010 8:28 PM | Report abuse

JohnEinNC -- Glad you're posting on here... 2's a crowd, especially when it comes to the joys of government healthcare.

Posted by: USMC_Mike | February 9, 2010 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Can you imagine a single person, anywhere on the face of this earth, who opposes Obama not out of envy or hate or racism ? Just curious.

Posted by: Moonbat | February 9, 2010 8:18 PM | Report abuse

"I would be delighted to have government run healthcare. It beats no healthcare."

Please don't make me defend ground that's not mine. It's called a straw man.

My cousin is 25, has a pre-existing stomach thing, and she can't get insurance. I do not think she has to go bankrupt. Nor should you.

I have already stated the current system is imperfect, even inasmuch as it's suprior to all other systems.

A just society takes care of its weakest members. In my mind, this includes yourself, my cousin, the unborn, etc. No need to do so at the expense of the 'other' 95%...

Posted by: USMC_Mike | February 9, 2010 8:16 PM | Report abuse

12barblues - I had a brother go thru the same thing a couple years ago. I feel for you, and DO think something needs to be done. But you don't punish 85% of the nation, as well as take away their freedoms, to provide for the less than 5% in your situation (the other 10% if not more CHOOSES not to get healthcare, just like I did until I was 35). It would be much cheaper to take care of the people in your position.

Let's remember - If an insurance company is FORCED to cover someone with pre-existing conditions, it is no longer insurance. Lets at least be honest about what we are trying to do here.

I am one who has already faced the EXISTING death panels, found wanting, and am uninsurable (cancer 10 yrs ago). There is no researching insurance companies, blah, blah, because I can't get insurance from any of them.

I would be delighted to have government run healthcare. It beats no healthcare.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | February 9, 2010 8:04 PM

Posted by: JohnEinNC | February 9, 2010 8:12 PM | Report abuse

obama = FAIL Sarah Palin = I Told You So

campaign in NJ = FAIL
campaign in VA = FAIL
campaign in MA = FAIL
stimulus bill = FAIL
cap&tax = FAIL
health care =FAIL
unemployment = FAIL
copenhagen = FAIL
olympics = FAIL
approval rating 42% = FAIL
economic grade F = FAIL
lost 8.4 million jobs = FAIL
bow like peasant to Jap emperor = (Jap Press IDIOT) FAIL
China Trip zero results = FAIL
Germany Trip = (Germany Press WIMP) FAIL
France Trip zero Results = FAIL
Picks Colts = doom colts FAIL

Posted by: MaxCUA | February 9, 2010 8:09 PM | Report abuse

USMC_Mike, you made a perfect point. The libs, don't want to hear it. It makes too much sense. For some reason they think the free market system is pure evil, and the government method is all about the 'good of the people'. They obviously have fantasies about an abstract utopian society. They have never experienced single payer. Like you - I have. While it may be ok for people that prefer to wade through life like sheep. I prefer to be an independent, free-thinking person that makes my own decisions.

Posted by: JohnEinNC | February 9, 2010 8:06 PM | Report abuse

Wake up. I, as a free thinking person, would much prefer the free market that allows me to research insurance companies and decide which one I want to pay - versus the federal government making all decisions for me.

And to add to the marine's comments - I am ex-military, loved my time there - but the health care was horrible. I will be happy to expand if anyone is interested.

Posted by: JohnEinNC | February 9, 2010 7:57 PM
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I am one who has already faced the EXISTING death panels, found wanting, and am uninsurable (cancer 10 yrs ago). There is no researching insurance companies, blah, blah, because I can't get insurance from any of them.

I would be delighted to have government run healthcare. It beats no healthcare.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | February 9, 2010 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Noacoler,

You might snobishly pooh-pooh the fact that I may or may not get a doctor to look at my little girl as a mere inconvenience, but let me put it to you this way: Lester is the ONLY place we can go. And if they say no, I have to live with no. That's what single-provider means. I can't go anywhere else.

I'm not trying to defend the current system (which has brought the best healthcare to the most number of people in the history of the world); just making an observation about what my experience with TriCare has been like, and that I can imagine it being worse on a national scale.

If you are unable to participate in an adult conversation, I apologize for wasting your time.

Posted by: USMC_Mike | February 9, 2010 8:00 PM | Report abuse

Good luck with envy and hate libs. You need all the help you can steal.

Posted by: Moonbat | February 9, 2010 7:53 PM
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Can you imagine a single person, anywhere on the face of this earth, who opposes Mrs. Palin not out of envy or hate? Just curious.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | February 9, 2010 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Noacoler - your arguments would carry more weight if you would at least be honest. Just because the term 'death panel' does not appear in the bill, does not mean the premise does not exist.

Besides that fact that it clearly states in the bill which I read - that there will be panels set up to decide what kind of treatments, if any people will receive. Combine that with Obama - in one of his many primetime speeches - answering a woman's question by stating, that at some point you have to decide if it is cost effective to let granny have her surgery - that it might just be better to give her pain pills until she dies.

Wake up. I, as a free thinking person, would much prefer the free market that allows me to research insurance companies and decide which one I want to pay - versus the federal government making all decisions for me.

And to add to the marine's comments - I am ex-military, loved my time there - but the health care was horrible. I will be happy to expand if anyone is interested.

Posted by: JohnEinNC | February 9, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

The idiots on this blog are a clear indication that little old Sarah palin has the progressives wetting themselves.

Poor Barry has nothing to show so the clear idiot reply is to attack the enemy. There is no plausible defense.

Good luck with envy and hate libs. You need all the help you can steal.

Posted by: Moonbat | February 9, 2010 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Teleprompters were simply too confusing for ol' George. He kept trying to wipe the words off; thought they were bugs on his windscreen...

Posted by: Vercengetorix | February 9, 2010 7:50 PM | Report abuse

My logic is just fine,Mike.  You’re arguing like one of those people who says marijuana should remain illegal because we have enough problems with drunk drivers already. 
 
There are no “death panels” in healthcare reform, they’re not there.  That’s a fact.  You’re saying you can believe they are there, despite they’re not appearing in any of the bills, because you’re having a hard time on the phone with some hospital.  Your logic blows chunks.  On the other hand, with private health insurance in this free-market sh|thole we live in, people are denied coverage that could save their lives NOT because some “panel” decided it was their time to go, but rather so some sharp-penicilled little smarty could get an attaboy for saving his company some money that can now go to enriching the executives and shareholders.
 
So … you’re cool with “death panels” that ACTUALLY EXIST but rolling your eyes in horror at ones that don’t.  And you say my logic is faulty?

you's jus' bein' protective towards th' wimmon-folk

Posted by: Noacoler | February 9, 2010 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Whomever runs for and becomes President of the U.S. has got to get the votes, popular and electoral, or all this cutesy, disparaging rhetoric is moot. Of course, early-on character assassination of someone you are afraid of may prevent that occasion from ever happening, mightn't it? Right. As Obama is learning, you can fool some of the people all of the time and you can fool all of the people some of the time but cannot fool all the people all of the time. That's what elections are supposed to be about, isn't it? Look out B.O.,2012 is coming faster than you think and teleprompters won't hide you!

Posted by: 65tarheel | February 9, 2010 7:42 PM | Report abuse

USMC_Mike


Sound like that is the kind of government-run health care which Obama wants to bring to the entire country.


I don't remember what you have been saying on this blog.

However, that is why we are fighting, to stop those kinds of things from spreading all around the country on account of Obama.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 9, 2010 7:39 PM | Report abuse

mpwynn, you're the first non-hypocritical feminist I've seen.

Where are all the feminists rallying behind Palin's cause after the very public treatment she has received???

Posted by: USMC_Mike | February 9, 2010 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Just when you think the main stream, sexist media has no major female politician to beat up anymore -- along comes Sarah Palin. Her political sound bites are no different in sarcasim or folksy tone than Obama''s, or Bidens or any other male politician on the planet. The only difference here is the fact that Sarah Palin is a woman. Just as the main stream media and sexist pundits demeaned, dismissed and destroyed Hillary's aspirations to be President, they will do the same to Sarah Palin. Afterall, these powerful women must be kept in their place, right boys?

Posted by: mpwynn | February 9, 2010 7:30 PM | Report abuse

I actually haven't had the opportunity to speak to 3 people. I'm still at step 1, with fingers crossed for step 2.

Not that I am interested in engaging trolls but I would recommend taking a logic class or at least doing cursory research before making a fool of yourself.

Posted by: USMC_Mike | February 9, 2010 7:30 PM | Report abuse

What an idiotic troll post.

Palin makes her millions by harming America

Posted by: Noacoler | February 9, 2010 7:30 PM | Report abuse

The gorgeous lady is making a fortune with which she can have a good life, and help her kids in the future, financially. She can make millions and millions and millions more in the next several years. I am happy for her !

Posted by: raymeo | February 9, 2010 7:23 PM | Report abuse

The gorgeous lady is making a fortune with which she can have a good life, and help her kids in the future, financially. She can make millions and millions and millions more in the next several years. I am happy for her !

Posted by: raymeo | February 9, 2010 7:23 PM | Report abuse

The gorgeous lady is making a fortune with which she can have a good life, and help her kids in the future, financially. She can make millions and millions and millions more in the next several years. I am happy for her !

Posted by: raymeo | February 9, 2010 7:23 PM | Report abuse

Seeing monsters elsewhere because you had to speak to three people?

Your logic SUCKS.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 9, 2010 7:18 PM | Report abuse

On Healthcare:

I would like to share a story, which just happened.

I called US Naval Hospital Lester (the only provider on Okinawa) to make an appointment for my daughter.

She is 1 year old, has green mucus coming out of her eyes and nose, running a 100+ fever, and coughing.

To make an appointment, I have to speak to:

(1) A civilian beurocrat who will determine whether or not I am allowed to speak to a nurse. (took 4 tries, 1 hour of your tax payer dollars (it's 0915 here) of me calling)

(2) A nurse, who of course is not there, and she'll supposedly call me back (I left her my name and number). Once she approves my authorization to make an appointment, I can do so -- but I am not guaranteed to see a doctor unless:

(3) The nurse we end up seeing (God-willing, if #2 calls back and approves) deems it appropriate.

Now, this isn't TERRIBLE, but it's not the healthcare most of you fine people are used to.

Is it a stretch of MY imagination that there could be death panels?

My daughter's health currently rests on the 3 steps above...

America will get what she deserves. Vote for change and hope....

Posted by: USMC_Mike | February 9, 2010 7:16 PM | Report abuse

I suppose personally attacking this woman, not only to include her intellect and personality, but to say downright mean and hateful things, is precisely the "truth" that is "good" for the country.

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sorry but I'm not fawning over you because you claim to be a Marine. You write just like any other conservajerk on here? BDS? Stll talking that crap after Bush trashed your country?

Palin did quit her post, that's a fact. Pointing out her hypocrisy isn't ad hominem, none of you righties know what that means.

As for mean and hateful, she has all of us beat on that score, hate is Sarah's stock in trade.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 9, 2010 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is simply a phenomenon for the ear flap and plaid shirt herds. I simply am not interested in or enamored by anything she has to say until she drops the tightly controlled act and clearly demonstrates that she has a grasp of the myriad complex issues other than "sound bytes." Please. The world is a much more complex place that call for more than a one-liner and fluttering eye-lids. Until then, and until she clearly demonstrates that, I will continue to ignore her and advocate against her, her views and anything thing else she stands for.

And here's a one-liner for her.
Commentator: Governor, what do you think about China?

Palin: Oh, China, there? Both Todd and I like the gold-rimmed trim. We're gonna get some, there, soon.

Posted by: Vercengetorix | February 9, 2010 7:14 PM | Report abuse

@atc333 - Of course there is 'death panels' in the current insurance structure. There are always decisions that need to be made. There is no such thing as everything for nothing. These same 'death panels' will make the same decisions under the government plan.

The bottom line is that conservatives would rather have the freedom to choose which company they pay - they research, and base a decision on the history of the company as well as price and coverage. Under the government plan - the gov't dictates the price, and the coverage and the citizens have zero choice.

I for one, as an educated, self sufficient citizen, prefer to make may own decisions for myself and my family.

Why do the supposed intellectuals (liberals), want decisions made for them by our government?


ATC333's comment: She is very good with the one liners, but, she is also the master of misdirection. Consider "Death Panels". The truth is, they do exist, right now, The lie is that they were not in Obama's plan, but are in fact in the current system of insurance coverage which Palin and crew are quite happy with. There is a bean counter in a cubicle in every health insurance providers offices who does nothing but look for reasons, real and imaginary, to turn down an insureds request for coverage of a procedure, or life saving surgery. It happens every day, but obviously, these particular death panels are OK, because they are part of the great American Free Enterprise system, in which substantial financial contributions are made to those who choose to oppose changing the system.

Posted by: atc333 | February 9, 2010 6:28 PM

Posted by: JohnEinNC | February 9, 2010 7:09 PM | Report abuse

"Pointing out the truth is not hateful. It's simply necessary for the good of the country."

I suppose personally attacking this woman, not only to include her intellect and personality, but to say downright mean and hateful things, is precisely the "truth" that is "good" for the country.

Delusion is definitely a symptom of Bush/Palin Derrangement Syndrom.

Posted by: USMC_Mike | February 9, 2010 6:59 PM | Report abuse

She's a business, but she's also a product, 12Bar... Politician Barbie.

Posted by: drindl | February 9, 2010 3:20 PM
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That's the best kind of business, when you sell a product, but you still have it.

Also, makes inventory control a breeze! LOL.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | February 9, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse

Oh you truly are a hoot Chris! Half your article says Palin's soundbite strategy is effective because of a "busy and chaotic world" (What a line! When was the world never busy and chaotic?) but that if she runs for president she needs to develop substantive ideas.

Why? You just said what she's doing is effective. Why change a winning strategy, especially when idiots like you in the MSM buy into what she says regardless of whether it is true or not and then appreciate how clever she is even if she lies?

You want to see the definition of a Washington hack? Look in the Dictionary and it will say "See Chris Cillizza."

Then again you work for the official paper of hackdom, why should I be surprised it employs them?

Posted by: sean4 | February 9, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse

I find it kind of sad that when an honest and caring person enters the fray that so many try to portray her as a dimwit because she points out the fallacies they support. Why not talk about the policies instead of the personalities? President Obama has voted for infanticide! That should make you think.

Posted by: vitaglubet | February 9, 2010 6:56 PM | Report abuse

Uh, duh, to sarah4pres: do you know how to use correct grammar? No. Do you follow Sarah Palin's every word? Yes. Can you construct a sentence without "Why is she the star and you not?" as a main point? Your ignorance overfloweth, and your points are all lost in the blatant lack of knowledge which shows in your attempt at writing. The more you Palin plain folk talk, the more everybody listens. It's better than TV, and very funny. Like Darell, and his other brother Darell on the Bob Newhart Show, or Earl on My Life as Earl, or Ellie Mae and Jethrow on The Beverly Hillbillies...keep it comin'! LOL!!!!!!

Posted by: mshughes | February 9, 2010 6:56 PM | Report abuse

"Someone posted that she must strike fear in their hearts to elicit such a consistently hateful response. "

Pointing out the truth is not hateful. It's simply necessary for the good of the country.

Posted by: drindl | February 9, 2010 6:55 PM | Report abuse

Where did the psychedelic background come from? Doesn't seem like her demographic.

Posted by: drindl | February 9, 2010 6:52 PM | Report abuse

The Michael Moore fanclub Bush Derrangement Syndrom has mutated to something deeply psychologically disturbing.

Posted by: USMC_Mike | February 9, 2010 6:50 PM | Report abuse

" "How's that hopey, changy stuff working out?" she asked supporters of the president."


Pretty well, thanks. Not perfect, but sure as hell better than the alternative. How's the remainder of your gubernatorial term working ... uh, nevermind. "

What is it about otherwise "seemingly reasonable" liberals who can't control themselves in their ad hominem venom against this woman.

Someone posted that she must strike fear in their hearts to elicit such a consistently hateful response. Maybe there's truth there.

Posted by: USMC_Mike | February 9, 2010 6:41 PM | Report abuse

'I'll take Sara's 25% any day of the week.'

Is that 25 her IQ?

Posted by: drindl | February 9, 2010 6:40 PM | Report abuse

So what does "like-minded" mean? Slow, dim-witted, less than elite. My you are going to have to stop insulting us. You can judge a persons character by whom they associate. I'll take Sara's 25% any day of the week.

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"Idiots unite!"

You're not stupid because nature made you that way, you're stupid by choice, and you expect respect? Sorry but it don't be workin' that way.

You stick with Barbie and your conservative comic books

Posted by: Noacoler | February 9, 2010 6:37 PM | Report abuse

What is with this article?

So, we American's are too stupid to understand Mr. Obama's speeches (blah, blah, blah, blame Bush, blah, blah), but we get the pithy one-liners from Sara.

Let's keep this simple. You have no clue as to what we know and understand. We know when we are being told a lie. We know when our current representatives are not representing us. We know when the press attempts to influence rather than report the facts. We know when arrogance, conceit, and IGNORANCE rules the day. It is going to stop. Welcome to 2010.

"There is, of course, a limit to how far a soundbite strategy will get you. While Palin's pithy one-liners win her applause from like-minded crowds and help influence the debate, she remains poorly regarded by major swaths of the population who believe she is not adequately equipped to serve as president."

So what does "like-minded" mean? Slow, dim-witted, less than elite. My you are going to have to stop insulting us. You can judge a persons character by whom they associate. I'll take Sara's 25% any day of the week.

Posted by: grinehart | February 9, 2010 6:30 PM | Report abuse

She is very good with the one liners, but, she is also the master of misdirection. Consider "Death Panels". The truth is, they do exist, right now, The lie is that they were not in Obama's plan, but are in fact in the current system of insurance coverage which Palin and crew are quite happy with. There is a bean counter in a cubicle in every health insurance providers offices who does nothing but look for reasons, real and imaginary, to turn down an insureds request for coverage of a procedure, or life saving surgery. It happens every day, but obviously, these particular death panels are OK, because they are part of the great American Free Enterprise system, in which substantial financial contributions are made to those who choose to oppose changing the system.

Posted by: atc333 | February 9, 2010 6:28 PM | Report abuse

This loser/quitter is trying to sound like she is one up on the world? Give us all a break. One of these days, one of her "Gotcha" one liners is going to go off in a delicate place and she will regret calling out anyone.

Posted by: ronjeske | February 9, 2010 6:27 PM | Report abuse

With the Economy in ruins and no recovery in sight, these famous Palin soundbites will galvanise the Republicans and the Democrats will lose the Senate in November.
The outrageous vicious attacks on Palin by the Obama bloggers on this forum are hurting Obama more than you stupid people think. Palin is a star, every word she says strikes fear into the Democrat side of politics.
Of course it's not fair is it? You guys are much more male,more educated, intelligent, insightful and politically savvy than Palin. Are you not? It must be frustrating that no-one much appreciates you. No-one listens to you with awe and splashes your wisdom all through the media. Why is she the star and you not? True it's not fair.
And then how do you get to all those silly Republicans to set them straight? Well you certainly don't do it by shooting the messenger. Palin is the messenger, that is all she ever wants to be-at the moment anyway. Palin speaks and believes what the majority of Americans speak and believe. She speaks they nod, cry, clap and cheer. You can't kill that. Even on this forum that allows you absolute free reign to vent your spleen.
Actually I'm enjoying your despair...bring it on!!

Posted by: sarah4pres | February 9, 2010 6:23 PM | Report abuse

I read all of your comments on the pro-Palin side, inserted her whiny pitched shrilly annoying voice and it all came out making perfect sense. After a while the message is lost on the messenger's ink-smudged hand. Once again, the "soccer momsey-pit bullsey" stuff isn't workin' out so well, is it now? I can hear you, Sarah, but I do not know what you are saying. You do not speak for the majority of intelligent, educated, income-earning contributors to society who debate the issues openly. You, my dear, represent the uneducated, ignorant, ill-informed, dumbed-down, doped up followers who have no real life or real issues so they cling to your mindless soundbites. At a real tea party people have manners and etiquette. At a pretend tea party people are self-serving and Fox News addicted followers.I Hope you can Change, someday.

Posted by: mshughes | February 9, 2010 6:17 PM | Report abuse

There should always be an opposing political discussion in this country; on that I think we most agree. For those so vehemently opposed to Palin, perhaps you should take a step back and stop adding fuel to her fire. The more you push the more the pull. Unless we stop this nonsense, all we can expect is more nonsense. Voters are sick of it. Dems and Repubs need to get a grip and seriously consider that we don't want right or left politics shoved down our throats. We want a centrist government that is responsive and senstive to regional needs - this blue v red baloney has to stop.

Posted by: yankeei | February 9, 2010 6:11 PM | Report abuse

There should always be an opposing political discussion in this country; on that I think we most agree. For those so vehemently opposed to Palin, perhaps you should take a step back and stop adding fuel to her fire. The more you push the more the pull. Unless we stop this nonsense, all we can expect is more nonsense. Voters are sick of it. Dems and Repubs need to get a grip and seriously consider that we don't want right or left politics shoved down our throats. We want a centrist government that is responsive and senstive to regional needs - this blue v red baloney has to stop.

Posted by: yankeei | February 9, 2010 6:11 PM | Report abuse

"going to need a front loader and dumptruck"

Better a front loader than a free loader. Bet y'all are loving you some unemployment right now, all you rats working in construction, waiting for you shovel-ready gubmint cheese.

Posted by: 2partsgin | February 9, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Miss me yet?

Posted by: robtay12003 | February 9, 2010 5:52 PM | Report abuse

@ beeker25

"real power" is conspiracy talk.

The tearing down of the Berlin Wall and East Germany and West Germany pursuing unification was the final blow for the Iron Curtain. It took the leader of the free world, an equal superpower, to say, "Tear down this wall!"

"We welcome change and openness; for we believe that freedom and security go together, that the advance of human liberty can only strengthen the cause of world peace. There is one sign the Soviets can make that would be unmistakable, that would advance dramatically the cause of freedom and peace. General Secretary Gorbachev, if you seek peace, if you seek prosperity for the Soviet Union and eastern Europe, if you seek liberalization, come here to this gate. Mr. Gorbachev, open this gate. Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!"

It was called then an openly provocative, war-mongering speech. Carter would not have given it, and neither would Obama. When he had his moment with Iran, he folded faster than Superman on laundry day.

Posted by: 2partsgin | February 9, 2010 5:51 PM | Report abuse

For people who can't do algebra and for whom science is hopelessly complicated, it's OK, they have "common sense."

this from the idiot who couldn't handle the math to graduate from an unknown state school - a communications major no less.

Posted by: Moonbat | February 9, 2010 5:48 PM | Report abuse

Too funny. It is "irresposnible" to criticize the Democrats. I guess the voters of Virginia, New Jersey and Massachusettes didn't get their memo.
Here's a soundbite for you:
"Pack your bags."

Posted by: robtay12003 | February 9, 2010 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Noacoaler, all your dementia aside

going to need a front loader and dumptruck.

Posted by: Moonbat | February 9, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

This is a quote for the misogynists who rail against Sarah Palin's attractiveness:

It seems to escape Sullivan's attention that Palin came to prominence because the entire right was agitating for domestic exploration and then this attractive governor from Alaska spoke the magic words, which even our more conservative leaders shied away from: "Drill, baby, drill." Yes, including in the pristine wonders of the desolate wasteland known as ANWR.

Sullivan would posit that things happened in the opposite order. Here we all were celebrating the untainted and quite godforsaken barren tundra known as ANWR, but suddenly a woman who could rock a D cup came on the scene, and then we were sold.

IN OTHER WORDS, we don't care. We like Sarah Palin as she is. We don't want her to get a lot of Botox like Nancy Pelosi. But Palin is better looking than anyone on the left, and she always will be.

Posted by: 2partsgin | February 9, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Reagan didn't defeat the Soviet Union, it's still there, and would have collapsed not one millisecond later if Carter had won re-election."

Posted by: 2partsgin
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The Soviet Union has dissolved into Russian Federated States headed by Putin (real power behind the current President).
In reality it was cratering long before Reagan came into office.

Posted by: beeker25 | February 9, 2010 5:33 PM | Report abuse

All you idiots yelling at Zee Lizard should bear in mind that the White House Press Secretary wrote a bunch of childish nonsense on his hand when addressing the press corpse. It's not WAPO making Palin relevant. They're just carrying the administration's water.

Posted by: 2partsgin | February 9, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Nuance is fine in legislative debate. The masses read and comprehend on a 6th or 7th grade level and we stopped teaching critical thought a generation ago.

Alibi Ike, our current POTUS, never heard Shakespeare say, "Brevity is the soul of wit." Meanwhile, this writer is so busy kissing President Obama's hind parts that he cannot hear what is resonating with America.

America does not need a RESET. It needs a return to "The era of big government is over" when the economy was humming.

Posted by: 4noone | February 9, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Compare the pic above to 18 months ago. How much more jowelly and crepey she is already. Fast forward three years and she's going to look like Hillary.

Take away the T&A appeal to rural conservatives and where's her appeal? It's in the toilet. She doesn't inspire anyone, she's selling hate, and the market for hate ... not enough.

Really CC, her inability to break out of snark into substance should be more than a passing mention.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 9, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Lets review here. Obama gives a speech to 6th graders and uses a TELEPROMPTER!!!!! Where's the article about that, where's the Snickers, like little kids, The WaPo chides Pols they don't like while ignoring the Fax Paus, BO and 57 States????
Again, whers the outrage over BO and Biden's malapropisms??? probably in the 100's by now.

Posted by: morphy | February 9, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Or this one Chris.I told ya so Palin 2012.

Posted by: RandyR1 | February 9, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

New Jersey

Virginia

Massachusetts


Posted by: 2partsgin | February 9, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Cizzila,
Your article really does show the celebration of the dumbing down of America and it seems that you are a supporter of the Republican party.
I have seen your debate with Amy Walter and that time she forced you to agree with her assessment. Last night on Newshour was a better one than you have put it. Amy said that "Palin is bringing attention to keep herself in the limelight to her supporters."

Posted by: beeker25 | February 9, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Hows this one for you Chris.Palin 2012 You Can Keep The Change.

Posted by: RandyR1 | February 9, 2010 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Sad to say a LOT of Americans think that we can do everything without pain or much cost. Cut taxes,reduce government,strengthen the military ,and drill for more oil! Palin gave that prescription at her speech.

Posted by: rwsmls | February 9, 2010 5:26 PM | Report abuse

"Reagan didn't defeat the Soviet Union, it's still there, and would have collapsed not one millisecond later if Carter had won re-election."

Noacoaler, all your dementia aside, do you mean to tell me the Carter who let the Shah twist in the wind and armed the Taliban could have taken on the Soviets? He dismantled our intelligence apparatus to show how "outside the Beltway" he was. Gee, sounds familiar!

Posted by: 2partsgin | February 9, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Cillizza, you celebrate and defend the dumbing down of America. This freak is nothing more than a media generated cartoon character. To legitimatize the woman is an insult to this great nation and you are the next fool on the bandwagon. America will fall some day, and the tripe like this is what will ultimately do it. Palin in the news makes money for you and your "news" outlet, but...holy, crappola... get real.

Posted by: seakeys | February 9, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, Hackzilla. It's not because Obama "believes that the soundbite culture has led to the dumbing-down of politics and, as a result, resists engaging in it." He clearly is in love with the sound of his own voice and can read a teleprompter longer than Narcissus could stare at his reflection. The real trouble for Obama is that his speeches put everyone to sleep. He is a big doofus who has never run so much as a lemonade stand.

Posted by: 2partsgin | February 9, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: annetta3 | February 9, 2010 5:01 PM
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First of all, the media love to play to people and it shows. Often times they use attention getting headline in order to illicit responses from some readers who don't bother to read it except go straight to thread post to parrot talking points.
That's the reality.

Posted by: beeker25 | February 9, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

The gentleman says:

"Obama has built his reputation as a politician on his "big" speeches -- from his address on race during the campaign onward he has distinguished himself by offering his ideas and beliefs in longer form speeches aimed at examining all sides of a problem before offering his solutions."

Pardon me, but I have listened to and read the transcript of the Philadelphia speech and I find nothing profound at all. It is a speech that distances him from the Reverend Wright without looking at the content of Wright's arguments or Wright's critics. It is not even as good a dodge as Jack Kennedy's speech in Houston.

Posted by: RobbyS | February 9, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Here's a sound bit the represents the most important change this country needs:

TAX

THE

RICH!

Posted by: tmorgan2008 | February 9, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Bad economy? Obama's or Bush's

Debt increase under Bush in 8 years = $3 trillion

Debt increase under Obama in 1 year = $3.3 trillion

Obama's first year!
Posted by: drivl
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Boy your numbers are way off on both counts!:
First of all, Bush accumulated $4.8T which matches what the Bureau of Public Debt reports. This was result of the economic collapse and contraction that has a direct effect on the economy.
Second, Obama is only responsible approximately $592B thus far which is 5 months in the FY10 and including the 8 months of FY09 and again it's direct effect from the recession.

Accordingly, the CBO has stated many of the deficit were results of decline in individual and corporate taxes due to the economy and tax cuts from the ARRA and Bush years still in effect coupled with spending increases in Medicare, Medicaid, unemployment and military operations in Afghanistan thus far.

So you need to go back to 5th grade and relearn your math because it does not support your argument.

Posted by: beeker25 | February 9, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Reminds me of another dope who upset the Washington establishment. (oh, and eliminated the former Soviet Union.)

==

if Reagan really was a great president why do his admirers need to invent happy Walter Mitty crap like this? Reagan didn't defeat the SU, it's still there, and would have collapsed not one millisecond later if Carter had won re-election. And you uh people want to go down the same path they did, throwing away trillions in armaments and wars.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 9, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

It is fascinating that some people are so frightened of Palin and continue to call her supporters rabid or hate mongers.

Does anyone remember that the hatred aimed at George W Bush by his detractors? Does anyone remember that he was hung in effigy and no one in the MSM sounded an alarm at what that type of action might mean to the safety of a President of the United States? I don't remember it.

It seems that some of the anger riling people this year is not dissimilar to the disrespect shown to GW Bush, but there was no politically correct press a few years ago willing to question motives then.

Palin has a style that delights some, and causes fear and loathing in others. Watch her or turn channels. But, don't pin all your disappointment in this administration on her doorstep. She was part of the losing ticket, remember?

Posted by: annetta3 | February 9, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

A sound bite can only be effective if there is an element of truth in it. A major sound bite campaign can only be effective if the sound bites, one after another, contain unassailable central truths. Sarah Palin has managed to build a sound bite campaign. Her sound bites slam into the Obama administration and sink its initiatives one after another.

So this silly woman from Wasilla using Twitter and Facebook continues to overwhelm the administration of the best and the brightest the progressives have to offer.

Reminds me of another dope who upset the Washington establishment. (oh, and eliminated the former Soviet Union.)

Posted by: jy151310 | February 9, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

No her sound bites are not "substantially correct."

There are no death panels in HRC, global warming is a dangerously serious threat, the recession would be worse without deficit-driven stimulus.

Palin is wantonly irresponsible and a press that dignifies her with aplomb is too.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 9, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

The point people are missing re her "sound bites" is that like them or not, they capture the essential truth in the situation. Obama is 0 for 3 and was not listening (which even he admitted, "Change" is not the change people expected, the polls cofirm this. Get passed the rhetoric and look at the message. That's the important point.

Posted by: chlyma | February 9, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Palin will go laughing all the way to the bank. However, those that support her scare the heck out of me. I don't understand people who are so angry and so hateful that they prefer fiction to reality...well, there's the KKK, I guess, and the Taliban....

Posted by: ricci_pamela | February 9, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

I read the book and I would challenge just one of these arrogant commentators to match what this woman has accomplished.

As for this comments in the article I would say the words are as lost and misguided as those who don't recognize genuine common sense, morality, and love of country.

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common sense.

A compliment given to the uneducated to make them feel better about themselves. For people who can't do algebra and for whom science is hopelessly complicated, it's OK, they have "common sense."

problem is, America needs leaders who can handle complexity.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 9, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

I read the book and I would challenge just one of these arrogant commentators to match what this woman has accomplished.

As for this comments in the article I would say the words are as lost and misguided as those who don't recognize genuine common sense, morality, and love of country.

This present generation of "give me I am great" will never get it, and God help us if we ever need them to hold this country up.

Posted by: northrange | February 9, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Wow. Looking back at it, that came off a lot harsher than I meant it to.

I hope it doesn't come off this way, but it was not, broadwayjoe, my intention to attack you, nor was it my intention to suggest that I'm somehow against intense scrutiny of Sarah Palin and anyone else who might think himself or herself to be the next president of the U.S. I just wish people would not spend so much time looking for ways to prove the media is against everything they stand for; it's one of those issues that gets me fired up, for reasons that would be fairly obvious if you knew me. Particularly when that criticism is directed at Chris, who is, in a sea of blogs heaping with ideological bias and desperate anger, one of the most straightforward and least slanted bloggers I've found.

It's not that I think the media is above reproach; I'm all for keeping a watchful eye on it at all levels and for making one's voice heard when journalists are not doing justice to the issues they are covering. I just think a lot of anger with the media is misdirected, and would be better expended on the people who give journalists the quotes and figures they use -- or on examining one's own prejudices that might lead one to project bias onto what one reads.

Posted by: GJonahJameson | February 9, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

AIN'T NOTHIN' LIKE A CATCH PHRASE... MAYBE 'HOPEY-CHANGEY' WILL LEAD TO SOME REAL OBAMA CHANGE. WE CAN ONLY HOPE-Y.

How IS that "hopey-changey stuff" working out for Obama's dispirited base?

Not to give them free advertising, but I see that "CafePress.com" already has "Hopey-Changey Stuff" T-shirts and bumper stickers for sale.

Ya gotta give some props to Sarah's peeps for this.

I hear that Molly Cyrus' dad Billy Ray is about to release a long-awaited following up to his "Achey-Breaky Heart" one-hit country wonder, to be entitled.... well, you know the rest of the tune.

***

MEMO TO POTUS, TEAM OBAMA: Fastest route to restoration of your political mojo:

Give 'em some REAL "hopey-changey" ...

Restore the rule of law in America by taking down the extrajudicial Bush-Cheney Gestapo that Bush-Cheney leave-behinds are continuing on YOUR watch:

http://nowpublic.com/world/u-s-silently-tortures-americans-cell-tower-microwaves

NOW IT'S OBAMA'S GESTAPO USA. WHEN WILL TEAM OBAMA ACT?

• Bucks County, PA MAGLOCLEN/RissNet Mid-Atlantic "fusion center" -- "Ground Zero for Mid-Atlantic Homeland Domestic Torture and Community Watch Domestic Terrorism"

nowpublic.com/world/gestapo-usa-govt-funded-vigilante-network-terrorizes-america

OR NowPublic.com/scrivener (see "stories" list) OR
poynter.org/subject.asp?id=2 (see articles list)

Posted by: scrivener50 | February 9, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Sarah has found the "money" game just like rush, beck, hannity, O'reilly and others. She will NOT run in 2012 But she will NOT say that just yet.

Posted by: pgmichigan

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Did you leave out Matthews, Shultz, and Olbermann from you list on purpose.

By the time the campaign gets here she will already have buckets of money. It will be the economy "stupid" situation. Even then, she might prefer the money over a worse economy than the one Obama inherited. I think if the economy improves greatly by at least a year before the election Obama will be re-elected.

Posted by: bnw173 | February 9, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

All sound bites aside, I have a hard time getting past her shrill whine and cracked voice, as she fluctuates between wanting to yell at a pep rally and trying to seriously make a point. We can hear you Sarah, there's a microphone in front of you.Then there's the annoying twang on top of it when she tries to be all folksy and down to earth with the people. I wanted to give her a chance, and I did. I see no intellect and no clear critical thinking process. She does not represent women and she does not represent intelligent women. She is part of the dumbing down of American politics so that the novices who scarily represent ignorance can rally around her, only because they do not understand the real issues, have given no thought to the complexity of problem-solving on the big scale, and want a quick fix. She is the heroin to the drug addicts, as they withdraw and crave the drug she dangles it in front of them and says, "Follow me, this way." For those of us not needing a quick fix and understanding Obama is in it for the long haul, no thanks, Sarah P., you are not for me. I can't get past annoying to get to the empty space within the frontal and parietal lobes of Sarah P's brain. "Hey, Sarah, how's that 'Soccer Momsey - Pit Bullsey' thing working out as Governor of Alaska? Oh, you resigned? Not so well, I guess. You sold out to Fox News? That's a shame-sy."

Posted by: mshughes | February 9, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Palin’s political perspective or, to employ her populist parlance, presumably “that fear-y, status quo thingy,” seems to be working out just fine, at least for her. This self-centered strategy has proven extremely effective in the short-term, upping Ms. Palin’s media profile while lining her pockets at the same time.

However, appealing to people’s irrational fear of change generally brings out the worst in them (a fact demonstrated by the many misguided and offensive slogans spouted at tea party events last summer).

And assuring voters that we can continue consuming resources at or above our current rate is as reckless as it is dishonest. To use a tired metaphor, at a time when Americans must get leaner, Palin is scoring political points by telling us we can eat ice cream every night for dinner and never gain weight or run out of milk.

Read more @ http://armchairfirebrand.wordpress.com/

Posted by: ArmchairFirebrand | February 9, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

There are none so blind as those who will not see.
HR 3200
SEC. 123. HEALTH BENEFITS ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
As amended, as amended, as amended.
shall recommend to the Secretary of
Health and Human Services (in this subtitle referred to as the
`Secretary') benefit standards (as defined in paragraph (4)), and
periodic updates to such standards.

Posted by: WriterDude | February 9, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Notes on your hand or teleprompter for sixth graders. you pick:

Update: Jon Stewart: You didn’t really use a teleprompter inside a classroom, did you, champ?

Bad economy? Obama's or Bush's

Debt increase under Bush in 8 years = $3 trillion

Debt increase under Obama in 1 year = $3.3 trillion


Obama's first year!


Obama Says 'We Lost Touch'... Didn't Speak 'Directly to American People'...

BUT

Obama's First Year: By The Numbers:
INTERVIEWS: 158
SPEECHES, COMMENTS & REMARKS: 411


Obama White House has held one party every three days his first year in office.After Obama Tells America “Everyone Must Sacrifice” the White House Throws 1 Party Every 3 Days in First Year. Click here.

What an accomplishment! Record number of parties at the White House.

Obama waited three days before speaking about the Christmas Day attack!!!


What took him so long? Washington Post report:
Aides said Obama at no point considered cutting short his trip, and they said he still had fun despite the unexpected crises. He played golf and basketball, went snorkeling and to the gym, and ate at his favorite Honolulu restaurant. His wife and children went to the beach, and his family spent time with a group of Chicago friends who traveled to Hawaii with them and with Oahu residents who have known Obama since childhood.


UPDATE:
As this Politico story notes, the Christmas Day bombing plot has shaken the Obama administration and his supporters, leaving the latter flummoxed. They can’t seem to understand the president’s clueless reaction, which verged on peevish resentment over the interruption to his vacation:

Over the course of five days, Obama’s reaction ranged from low-keyed to reassuring to, finally, a vow to find out what went wrong. The episode was a baffling, unforced error in presidential symbolism, hardly a small part of the presidency, and the moment at which yet another of the old political maxims that Obama had sought to transcend – the Democrats’ vulnerability on national security – reasserted itself.

And the list goes on and on....

all this in one year.
Imagine the string of failures he could rack up in the next three years.

Posted by: drivl | February 9, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

You lie.
Posted by: bnw173 | February 9, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

when Obama addressed the repugs in congress, he used no prompter.

incidentally, teleprompters have been used since the advent of television. Bush one had a prompter under his suit jacket during presidential debates.Palin writes on her hand.

let's also remember, Palin gave a speech to 700 paying fools. 700.

Posted by: johannesrolf | February 9, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

http://www.infowars.com/warning-neocon-palins-tea-party-takeover-will-facilitate-obama-reelection/CHRISTY HOPPE
The Dallas Morning News
February 7, 2010
Editor’s note: Tea Party Trojan Horse supports globalist Perry over real defender of the Constitution Debra Medina.
CYPRESS, Texas – On Super Bowl Sunday, Rick Perry handed the ball to star runner Sarah Palin, who joined the governor’s team in bashing big-spending Washington. She urged the crowd to stick with Perry as someone whose conservative policies are succeeding, but she also received a huge cheer from the crowd of about 8,000 when she said she’d heard some mention of Texas seceding.With early voting in the March 2 primary beginning in just over a week, Perry called on Palin to help rally support in his race against Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison and Debra Medina.In an urgent message on the systematic betrayal of the tea party, Alex Jones warns against the turncoats and deceivers flocking from the weakened GOP and FOX News wings to harness the populist uprising that briefly found life outside of the traditional two-party system.But as Alex notes, we don’t have time to be fooled yet again by a political sideshow– a bait & switch– meant to volley between fundamentally-rotten Democrats and fundamentally-rotten Republicans. Americans must rise above that tightly-controlled paradigm, take a deep breath, and root out the evil and corruption deep within the system before all is lost. Sarah Palin made more than headlines this past week– attempting a takeover of the tea party movement, backing GOP hack Rick Perry over a real & viable candidate, pitching for war on Iran and assessing Obama’s weaknesses in 2012.Read entire article: http://www.infowars.com/warning-neocon-palins-tea-party-takeover-will-facilitate-obama-reelection/

Posted by: PaulRevere4 | February 9, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

The fact that there are people that really feel she could be a leader is what scares me. She is a very good actress but seems, even with Chris Wallace, to not have a clue about how to DO THE WORK to improve anything.


Posted by: CulturalElite
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

She has time to answer those same questions. Obama would not answer specific questions either.That was a common complaint, Had he not gotten the media support it would have ruined him.

Honest answer please. Do you think Obama is ready to be President right now?

He was in the Senate four years and said he had no clue of the mess he was inheriting. That shot the hell out of the little confidence I had in him. I knew the mess he was inheriting and I wasn't in Washington.

Posted by: bnw173 | February 9, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe, what I wrote was that Chris's post mentions criticisms of Sarah Palin -- not that it makes them. This blog is about political analysis, not opinion, and outright criticisms by Chris would be entirely out of place. You can argue semantics by saying "It's not a criticism if it's true!" but you'd be hard pressed to convince anyone that "... it's clear that whatever her other weaknesses in the political arena -- and they are considerable -- Palin understands how to deliver a soundbite" isn't a mention of criticism about her. Or the mention of how poorly she polls when people ask if she'd be a good president. Or the mention of her "death panel" assertion being debunked.

I get the impression that you want every one of Chris's posts that mention Palin to be accompanied by some throwaway line from a Democratic pollster who says she's a bonehead with no chance of becoming president in 2012. But usually, he's just recounting something she's done on the campaign (if you can really call it that) trail that's made waves, usually about how fired up she's got her base. There are a lot of criticisms of Palin out there, some of which are recounted in this post, but they don't need to be mentioned every time she pulls another campaign stunt. Who's going to forget?

I certainly hope you're not holding up that article you linked as a shining example of unbiased journalism, as opposed to The Fix. When the sixth paragraph reads, "Racial and ethnic slurs may be 'just Alaska' and, clearly, they are common, everyday chatter for Palin," that's a sign that what you're going to read is nowhere near unbiased. That's the author admitting his bias, right there. And "sourced?" That article directly quotes eight people, and all but two of them are anonymous. A source who'll never be held accountable if he or she is lying isn't really a source.

Posted by: GJonahJameson | February 9, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Sarah has found the "money" game just like rush, beck, hannity, O'reilly and others. She will NOT run in 2012 But she will NOT say that just yet. There is too much money to be made. I look for her to pull out very late and ride this horse (should I say moose) all the way to the bank. There really are a lot of "pinheads" willing to send good money her way all in the sake of the "common" person.

Posted by: pgmichigan | February 9, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

"She would be happy to give voice to far more than the soundbite but the fact that she is conservative means she is not to be given any airtime for her ideology. "

Posted by: ChrisRehm
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Poor Sarah. She barely can get the media to pay any attention at all to her.

ChrisRehm, this is a joke, right? She can only speak in soundbites in the media? You know that she appears on FOX News regularly, right? She has a huge platform to use if she wanted to have any sort of in depth discussion about any serious issue, but she uses Facebook status updates to get her message out. She could give a detailed analysis of any topic she truly cares about, but instead she fires off the "how's that hopey changey thing working for you?". How's that hopey changey thing working? Gee, Sarah, I don't know. How's that Governor's term working for you?

Tea Partiers, Republicans, Libertarian, whoever. Let Sarah run. The Dems are begging you to. I would love a race between Palin and Obama. She would get destroyed once people understand that she can only digest soundbites and speak in soundbites. Please, let Sarah run.

Posted by: thingsthatshine | February 9, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

we keep hearing about how Obama has failed. nothing could be further from the truth.he was confronted with the nearly certain meltdown of our and the world's financial system, and he averted this disaster. if that isn't success, what is? quitting the job you were elected to? yeah right.

Posted by: johannesrolf | February 9, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Favorable response and support of Palin and her "Bet Cha" type "folksy" jargon confirms that her followers are "retards"!

Presidential material? Only for Al Capp's Lower Slobovia!

Posted by: lufrank1
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Better any day than reading words you, the reader, doesn't understands and then he has to flip flop every week because he really doesn't understand what he read.

I have been back on google looking up his gaffes with and without the teleprompter.

I know you Brownie Obamanuts won't admit you saw them but this guy has some speeches without the teleprompter where he was completely incoherent. I don't watch political speeches but i saw every debate. Unless he could use some talking points he couldn't say crap with a mouth full of it. In the ABC debate he was awful. Er, ah, uh, mm. oh. aw. Awful at best. He made Bush sound coherent.

Folks if you don't believe me just google Obama's gaffes or Obama's blunders and bloopers.

Those lies and blunders never mentioned, yet the Hillary Kosovo, or whereever, bit was played tens of thousands of times. Hundreds of times on some days on MSNBC and CNN.

You lie?


Posted by: bnw173 | February 9, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

The fact that there are people that really feel she could be a leader is what scares me. She is a very good actress but seems, even with Chris Wallace, to not have a clue about how to DO THE WORK to improve anything.

And yes the Democrats have been their own worst enemy but the Republicans have done nothing but whine. No ideas. No leadership.
And no clue about the war that is being waged aggressively by our troops both in the open and in the shadows.We have decimated the terrorists under Obama. And will continue to do so. The republican rant about the Christmas Day bomber shows a clear ignorance of the facts.

But hey - what's new?

Posted by: CulturalElite | February 9, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Excerpt from the article:
"The party with the ability to distill its message to fit on a bumper sticker often has the upper hand because in a busy and chaotic world, people are looking for the one word or the one phrase that defines what it stands for (and why)."

Another smoke screen justification for the following:

Ask the typical, single issue, hard line Republican on the street the following question:

"Are ignorance and apathy problems within the Republican constituancy?"

They will answer:

"I don't know ! And, I don't care !"

How's that for sound bite wisdom ?

Posted by: lillypad2 | February 9, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Trust me, she's running in 2012. She's only waiting for the perfect moment. At that time, she will affirm that she is only doing so for one reason: God has told her that it is His will. She will confirm one truth: A vote for Palin is a vote for theocracy.

My question to you, Chris: How long will MSM let her slide without demanding serious policy statements from her? If you don't start soon, MSM is complicit in her strategy.

Posted by: GordonsGirl | February 9, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

I didn't vote for Obama or McCain last time, but wrote in for Ron Paul instead.

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Ron Paul is politically irrelevant and so are you.

If McCain had won we would now be on a full Depression with 25% unemployment

Posted by: Noacoler | February 9, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

...She would be happy to give voice to far more than the soundbite but the fact that she is conservative means she is not to be given any airtime for her ideology....

Posted by: ChrisRehm
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Respectfully, you are living in an alternate reality. The rest of the universe saw the words on her Palm Pilot, including the one she crossed out. (Geez, you'd think she'd work it out in her head first.) She can't even manage sound bites, much less coherent argument.

I watched about 5 minutes of her interview on Sunday with (conservative) Mike Wallace. She gets tons of air time. But, if you look very carefully at their faces, even the Wallaces, O'Reillys and Hannitys of the world have their eyes open a little wider than usual when listening to her responses to their questions. As O'Reilly loves to observe, body language is very revealing.

The wide eyes are the naked look of incredulity. The only person who seems to take her seriously is Beck.

Posted by: abqcleve | February 9, 2010 3:28 PM | Report abuse

In response to: On the down side:
unemployment has soared
debt is through the roof
Iran is about to get nukes
N Korea is testing new missiles
the fraud of global warming is getting a new big government office
democrats are being run out of office by the truckload
corruption and bribes are running amok

He did however, choose a dog.

Let's take this one at a time.....Unemployment is on the way back down... yes, it did increase - not his fault, the economy was already imploding.
Debt thru the roof - most of it was acquired during GW's term - yes, it's been added to, but again, necessary to help the economy and ensure it didn't tank altogether. Iran getting nukes - so? That was going to happen no matter who was elected. Ditto whatever happens in N. Korea. Obama will have to work with the rest of the world to try to get these 2 countries to stand down... GW didn't help the situation by lumping them into the Axis of Evil early on... probably inspired them! Global warming... you really, really, really don't understand the issue?! Do you really believe it doesn't exist? Shall I refer to you to some reading to bring you up to date on the subject? Lastly, there's always been corruption & bribes, and those participating should be run out of office..... there's not even a VW bug-full, nevermind a truckfull!! You are just so eager to spout the talking points, that you fail to look at the facts. Sounds like you should do more reading...

Posted by: linda35 | February 9, 2010 3:28 PM | Report abuse

davispope wrote:

Why is it so hard for you pin heads to understand Sarah's appeal.
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Yet another frustrated male right-winger who abuses himself on Palin's photos... Loser!

Posted by: Gatsby10 | February 9, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Only the most delusional among us (hi, Jake!) could believe Palin could manage a campaign, much less win an election. My guess is that there's a Plan B out there, something illegal mire like a coup than an election. And no doubt her supporters would be happy with it.

Make no mistake: her idiocy is an asset to everyone who wants to see a far-right socially conservative USA. It means she'll never succumb to reflection or misgivings, and it also means she, like Bush, will be easily manipulated by the corporate interests backing her.

Just please stop insulting our intelligence, CC. Sound bites are not her "strategy," sound bites are all she's capable of.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 9, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

I'm NOT a Republican. But if I had to choose between Obama or Palin as prez, it sure WOULDN'T be Obama.
And I think our country would have been in better shape right now, if Palin had been elected president.
I didn't vote for Obama or McCain last time, but wrote in for Ron Paul instead.

Posted by: tncdel | February 9, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Hey CC - the Next Big Issue coming down the pike -- the Shadow Budget:

"Budget battle lines are being drawn on Capitol Hill and House Republicans are deciding if they are going to spend political capital by backing a plan that effectively privatizes Social Security and ends Medicare, or keep with the vague blueprint they rallied around last year.

TPMDC has been talking to conservative groups, former members of Congress and Republican consultants keeping a close eye on the 2010 midterm elections. Our sources tell us the GOP risks permanently being painted as the "party of no" and as lacking guts to present a real plan for fiscal solvency - something the party says President Obama has failed to do.

Meanwhile, Budget Committee ranking member Rep. Paul Ryan and his budget friends are digging in their heels and going more public each day in defense of his dramatic plan to slash Social Security and Medicare to cut the deficit. "

Posted by: drindl | February 9, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Palin clearly has not mastered soundbites, otherwise she would not have needed to use her palm as a crib sheet to remind herself of what she supposedly stand for.

Posted by: Gatsby10 | February 9, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

"Palin's ease around a soundbite stands in stark contrast to the preferred rhetorical approach of President Obama who clearly believes that the soundbite culture has led to the dumbing-down of politics and, as a result, resists engaging in it."

huh? it's that obama is so in love with his own self talking that causes him to go on and on and on...
it doesn't have anything to do with a rejection of a sound bits.. he used them in the primary.. what the heck do you think " hope and change" were? War and Peace?

Posted by: newagent99 | February 9, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Pres Obama was terrific in his press conference today -- he should do them more often; he was just as good at his last one months ago. His answers are thoughtful, well put together and clearly show a command of the issues.

Former Gov Palin, who quit the job she was elected to do (I wonder how the Alaskans who voted for her feel about her quitting in the middle of her term?) has to stoop to writing sound bites on her hand to handle a question and answer session. Wow. She is just as obviously out of her league now as she was during the presidential campaign.

Posted by: jrosco3 | February 9, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Sarah: you go, girl. Just be sure not to bite the hand that reads ya!

Posted by: abqcleve | February 9, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

She's a business, but she's also a product, 12Bar... Politician Barbie.

Posted by: drindl | February 9, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Favorable response and support of Palin and her "Bet Cha" type "folksy" jargon confirms that her followers are "retards"!

Presidential material? Only for Al Capp's Lower Slobovia!

Posted by: lufrank1 | February 9, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Don't forget her fellow loony -- Bachman:

'Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) has declared that America has a biblical obligation to support Israel -- and if not, God will curse the United States, and it will be the end of this country.'

Posted by: drindl | February 9, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA = ETHOS: Ethos (Credibility), or ethical appeal, means convincing by the character of the author. We tend to believe people whom we respect. One of the central problems of argumentation is to project an impression to the reader that you are someone worth listening to, in other words making author into an authority on a subject , as well as someone who is likable and worthy of respect. This type of argument requires that you establish yourself as trustworthy and respectful of the audience. You do this by demonstrating that you have taken the time to research your topic, which establishes your credibility on the subject.


PALIN = PATHOS: Pathos (Emotional) means persuading by appealing to the crowd's emotions and basic needs. Language choice affects the audience's emotional response, and emotional appeal can be effectively used to enhance an argument. This is when you appeal to the emotions of your audience by describing in detail the effect of a particular situation. You should try to arouse a sense of pity, anger, fear, or other emotion in your audience. Criticism of rhetoric tends to focus on the overemphasis of pathos, emotion, at the expense of ethos, the message.

Posted by: aaronkarmin | February 9, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin = Sell-a-bration of Stupid.

Posted by: 1stBaseCoach | February 9, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Chris,

it's not that she's "mastered" the "art" of the soundbite; it's that she's either not smart enough or not interested enough to go any deeper than that. Nor are the people who think she's "genuine" or in any way qualified to hold national office.

Posted by: pcpatterson | February 9, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

This "Analysis" is really, really, a "piece."

I am astonished that anyone in the political left would stoop to the unfathomable low of attacking ANYONE, let alone on the right, let alone Palin, for being effective in communicating with soundbites.

You have slid so far out on your limb, Chris, that you've slid onto a different tree.

Sarah Palin is popular for the exact reason that she represents and Ideology that is not given a voice at all in the left wing, wholly biased, zealously censoring, mainstream media. She would be happy to give voice to far more than the soundbite but the fact that she is conservative means she is not to be given any airtime for her ideology.

And then you turn around, when the miniscule sound bite that is the only scrap of communication left to her turns out to still be a refreshing voice to an otherwise unrepresented public, and COMPLAIN ABOUT HER SOUND BITES?!?! Are you kidding me?

You have defined the rules, you have limited the tools available for her to represent her views, you have determined the playing field for her to present her side of the debate and you have created a field which overwhelmingly is biased against her where she must communicate in a sound bite while her opposition will be given six hour "infomercials" and SHE WINS ANYWAY. And here you are with, "Well, sound bites aren't so tough."

What a freaking joke. Read our own column, look in the mirror, change.

Posted by: ChrisRehm | February 9, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Palin is a public servant - not a politician.
There is a difference.

Posted by: catheywilkins2 | February 9, 2010 3:07 PM
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Bwahahahahah. She isn't either one. She is a business.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | February 9, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Sarah loves Sarah, and that's about it.

Posted by: drindl | February 9, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Just a correction re: the author's statement that the "death panel" comment has been "debunked". Who debunked the statement. I guess the "debunker" did not read the original stimulus bill that Obama signed into law. In that bill a health panel was set up. That panel would develop guidelines for the healthcare system to follow. Do you remember the recent "guidelines" promulgated by this panel regarding mammograms and self breast exams? Thank God the panels recommendations were thoroughly debunked by women who are estute enough to know when their lives are being threatened. By the way, this "panel" did not have either an oncologist or a radiologist in its membership. So much for "DEATH PANELS".

Posted by: lpak2000 | February 9, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

'Palin is a public servant - not a politician. '

Is that why she walked away from her public service job -- quit, just like that"

How public servanty.

Posted by: drindl | February 9, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

davispope wrote: Why is it so hard for you pin heads to understand Sarah's appeal.
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I wonder why everyone doesn't just agree with you? You sound so nonpartisan, so why wouldn't we all just fall in line and yell ditto? Must be the difference in the size of your head and the heads of others.

I'll bet your friends and co-workers can't wait to hear your pronoucements.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | February 9, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

There's a pig in the White House dead set on destroying this nation, and all this rag of a newspaper can do is divert our attention to Palin? Wake up, people, the real danger is posing as our President.

Posted by: DCer1 | February 9, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

There's a pig in the White House dead set on destroying this nation, and all this rag of a newspaper can do is divert our attention to Palin? Wake up, people, the real danger is posing as our President.

Posted by: DCer1 | February 9, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Should GOP be afraid of Palin? You betcha!!She's as sorry as they come with reference to politicians in general.She'll take the GOP right down to the finish line.The only difference I see in Palin before the election to present day is that she now wears jewelry and lots of it.If she had a soul she'd sell it for profit, that is what she's all about.She's full of herself & enjoying the swirl over her.She's done much to promote hate in politics, like Limbaugh & Beck & Dobbs.Her lack of intelligence is endless and she doesn't seem to miss it.Read my hand....for all my deep thoughts & core beliefs & values....they're here some where.

Posted by: btafmax4 | February 9, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Should GOP be afraid of Palin? You betcha!!She's as sorry as they come with reference to politicians in general.She'll take the GOP right down to the finish line.The only difference I see in Palin before the election to present day is that she now wears jewelry and lots of it.If she had a soul she'd sell it for profit, that is what she's all about.She's full of herself & enjoying the swirl over her.She's done much to promote hate in politics, like Limbaugh & Beck & Dobbs.Her lack of intelligence is endless and she doesn't seem to miss it.Read my hand....for all my deep thoughts & core beliefs & values....they're here some where.

Posted by: btafmax4 | February 9, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Terrific slip o'the pen (or typing finger): "Sarah is someone who loves this country and wants to do the best for her."

Not what the poster intended, I'm sure, but that's all you need to know about Sarah. It's ALL ABOUT HER.

Posted by: stephenlouis | February 9, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Palin is a public servant - not a politician.
There is a difference.

Posted by: catheywilkins2 | February 9, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

"Another side note: Isn't it funny that whenever Chris mentions Sarah Palin in a post, this blog's left-leaning regulars call him a big evil conservative, but when he makes a post like this one that mentions criticisms of her...."
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Correction: this space rarely posts anything negative about Palin...to put it mildly. Further, statements of fact aren't criticisms, but rather statements of fact. That said, there are no criticisms of her in the above "article." BTW, if you want a sourced article about Mrs. Palin, read journalist Charley James's ground breaking profile of her in laprogressive.com.

http://www.laprogressive.com/election-reform-campaigns/alaskans-speak-in-a-frightened-whisper-palin-is-%E2%80%9Cracist-sexist-vindictive-and-mean%E2%80%9D/

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 9, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Considering how Sarah runs her household... It would bake sense for her to go home and take care of her family... Todd, isn't going to hold down a decent job. I can see how she is taking care of them... Right... What a dysfuncitonal mess of a family... She should be ashamed of herself... Go home Sarah. Take care of your family. This country is in enough trouble, without having you running around making stupid claims...

Posted by: janeyre | February 9, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Part of Palin's grassroots appeal is her lowest common denominator politics. The white out at the White House is paralyzing the whole town. The government is frozen along with cap and trade, health care and the economy.

The White House has lost its grassroots appeal, because they are too high and mighty and talk down to the "people" in a condescending fashion. Palin is tapping this widespread discontent.

Posted by: alance | February 9, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Why is it so hard for you pin heads to understand Sarah's appeal. She is everything the left is not and everything Obama's not. She's genuine, Obama not, attractive, Obama not, exudes confidence in herself, Obama cannot speak without a teleprompter or adequately express himself without the help of the media or other handlers. She has actually accomplished something in her life prior to the national stage, Obama not. Finally, the death panel's have not been debunked. In the current healthcare bill a panel will determine the the soundness of providing some expensive procedures to medicare recipients by cost benefit analysis. Mince words if you want but a panel will decide whether a medicare patient gets certain treatments and people will die as a result of denying those treatments, ie..death panel.

Posted by: davispope | February 9, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

I do find Sarah Palin's comments and style are not good for democracy - reducing serious and complicated issues to smarmy one-liners is dumbing down the discussion. When I hear her speak I find it truly amazing that everyone does not find it offensive. Disagreeing with policies is fine. The finger pointing, smart - aleky style is so dumb sounding I can hardly believe it, and I am dismayed that Americans will listen to it. She has succeeded - in making herself popular and wealthy. How has she furthered the debate? There were never any death panels! What policy is correct to deal with hidden tax that is the poor/uninsured but allows business to flourish. This is a serious and complicated issue. And, if you take the comment that we would rather have a commander in chief than a law professor in the white house - what does that mean? The last I checked we were a nation of laws - what better person to have in the white house than a law professor. Do we want to put the military in charge of our government? Does might make right? Is it more important to be a sassy winner than thoughtful? To speak in Palinese - maybe I would rather be hopey than dopey. Though I am afraid for our country if our politicians' goals are to further dumb down the electorate or win at all costs by appealing to baseness (Obama is not a citizen - are you kidding? I find it truly unbelievable). I guess reading newspapers is not Palin's idea of a good time - and her supporters would rather make fun of people than do the hard work of making good policy. I read this article because I can't understand her appeal to anyone thoughtful, and the comments are even scarier.

Posted by: bobndave | February 9, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Barry has clearly already jumped the shark. He is now competing on equal footing with Sarah Palin.....and losing.

He is so last year.

his attempts at governing have been an abject failure. It was destined to be, running as a centrist, making crazy promises, and promptly instilling the most leftists agenda in history, replete with spending and weakness, the achilles heel of Democrats for ages.

Next stop, he might be ejected from the bottom of the porn industry after a long slide down.

Posted by: drivl | February 9, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Why must she submit to professional nay sayers who pose as political reporters. A succinct sound bite beats pages of circuitous crap.

Posted by: oldguy14 | February 9, 2010 2:55 PM
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Yes, you are a true believer. Mrs. Palin would agree with you. Are you available to be her handler? You'd be perfect.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | February 9, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

I believe the folksy persona Sarah Palin has adopted is insincere. If I am wrong then she is less polished and informed than any politician alive today. Compare her use of one-liners at the Tea-Party convention with her resignation speech. While that speech was rambling and sometimes incoherent, it wasn't full of cliches and sounded somewhat sincere. Of course I didn't believe the excuses she gave for resigning. She quit to follow the money; she actually has a talent for it; that doesn't really mean much in this culture of celebrity where many pretty people with no apparent talent are rewarded with millions of dollars.

Posted by: CMAN27 | February 9, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

"If Palin does decide to run for president in 2012 -- and everyone we talk to says she hasn't made that decision yet -- she'll need to step beyond the comfortable bounds of the soundbite and into a broader discussion of where she stands on the major issues of the day and why."
Why must she submit to professional nay sayers who pose as political reporters. A succinct sound bite beats pages of circuitous crap.

Posted by: oldguy14 | February 9, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

The Obama administration needs to stay focused and keep plowing ahead working with Congress, but I'm sure a few members of the administration can use their Sunday morning talk show time to deliver a few effective sound bites of their own, or say something that will get on the nightly network news.

Posted by: johnc_80 | February 9, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Correction...


my heart breaks for my country, I am growing more simple-minded by the day..

Posted by: drindl

Posted by: drivl | February 9, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Another side note: Isn't it funny that whenever Chris mentions Sarah Palin in a post, this blog's left-leaning regulars call him a big evil conservative, but when he makes a post like this one that mentions criticisms of her, right-leaning posts start popping up calling him a big evil liberal? Just another eccentricity of the American political environment: We're not comfortable with our ideological stances unless we've convinced ourselves that the mainstream media is against us. I wonder if a single person in the last 20 years or so has ever said, "Wow, the media is really taking my side on this one."

On a related point, whoever posited that members of the press are "elites" obviously has no idea what journalism pays.

Posted by: GJonahJameson | February 9, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

some in the MSM can't stop talking about her indicates how far our SAVIOR has fallen

Posted by: drivl | February 9, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Death panels was a metaphor and only "debunked" by the MSM because you wordsearched the 2,000 page bill and didn't find it in there. I know the MSM thinks that Americans are so dumb and couldn't understand a metaphor, but we do. I have learned that the MSM is full of condescending morons who think the rest of us are dumb. If a Democrat had said death panels, you guys would have said it is a metaphor because you think Democrats are so smart.

Posted by: columbiaheights | February 9, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Doug Wilder: Obama needs
a staff shakeup
Politico, by L. Douglas Wilder

During the 2008 campaign, I strongly endorsed Barack Obama for president. (Snip) The need is becoming more obvious by the day: He must overhaul his own team, replacing the admittedly brilliant advisers who helped elect him with others more capable of helping him govern.

Is it that obvious?

YES!


Mmmmmmmm mmmmmmmm mmmmmmmm

Posted by: drivl | February 9, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

I don't believe Palin will run for President.. why should she? She just made $100,000 for one event!!! Running COSTS money and chances are she wouldn't even win the Republican nomination and no way she gets elected President. Not to mention the pressure and work it would take to run.. No Palin will sit on the sidelines.. but she will still have a following and because of that she will have an impact.. and that means she'll still make money.

Posted by: sovine08 | February 9, 2010 2:41 PM
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I think Mrs. Palin may construct a new business model for politicians. Who says she can't keep getting appearance fees WHILE running for President? Who says she can't get appearance fees EVEN if elected? Think of the bookings she could get - $100k would be chicken feed.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | February 9, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

beeker25, did Palin really say she gets her information from e-mails? I really hope that was taken out of context.
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No, it wasn't.

Remember Palin could not identify for Katie Couric a single newspaper she reads, and almost son in law said she never reads at all. Be glad she gets any information from any source. That some in the MSM can't stop talking about her indicates how far our civilization has fallen. To our knowledge, the only "policy" statement she has made in the last twenty years was her infamous remark to "Gregory Charles Royal."

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 9, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Chris,

You know the 'death panel' stuff didn't originate with Palin, it was part of the 'health care industry's' (there's an oxymoron if I ever heard one) programme of disinformation in the summer, before Ms. Palin had shucked off her onerous responsibilities as an elected official.

And yes, she has a folksy way with one-liners. So has Jay Leno. Should he be spoken of as Presidential material?

Sarah Palin is out for one thing and one thing only: The monetary enrichment of Sarah Palin, and if she's got to give those inflammatory speeches she rattles off so glibly to do so, fine. I'm even prepared to believe that she means what she says, but I do question her motives.

Just as Tom Tancredo, the rabidly anti-immigrant former congressman and failed presidential candidate, meant every word of his hate-filled speech at the convention as well.

Posted by: sverigegrabb | February 9, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

" She sounds so much smarter than Mr. Biden and she definitely know how to pronounce "corpsman", not like our Commander in -Chief"

this is how sad and pathetic her followers are. my heart breaks for my country, growing more simple-minded by the day..

Posted by: drindl | February 9, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is a retard, and her fans are retards that have been dropped on their heads.

Posted by: VeloStrummer | February 9, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Sara Palin is profoundly ignorant and brazen. She is a walking joke, a retard. She is as if she has been locked up and is finally been set loose. She is lost. Her ONLY goal is financial gain.
The only difference between Palin and a woman of the oldest profession is that Palin hides behind the cloak of political innocence. She had no shame,poise,grace or dignity. She is culturally deplete and a disgrace to women that have worked hard to bring respectability to women in this country. Palin would render all forward thinking women's work was for naught if she could be taken seriously about her political aspirations. Anyone who accepts anything this idiot spews is RETARDED to the same degree that Palin is.

Posted by: allowme1 | February 9, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Side note: OK, OK, I acknowledge it's kind of funny that, after so many of President Obama's critics spent the last year ragging on him for using a teleprompter, their heroine Sarah Palin got caught writing her notes on her hand. I know that the knee-jerk reaction from Palin's critics was to hammer the point home endlessly as a big ol' "screw you" to Obama's critics. I get it.

But seriously, folks, it's only funny for a minute. I know you had to get it out of your systems, and that's fine, but now that that's done, let's move on. Surely there are more important points to make about her, right?

Posted by: GJonahJameson | February 9, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

"As far as Sara Palin is concerned, crib notes and all, I think she is doing the country a great disservice fomenting rage from simple minds who lack the intellectual depth to have an informed opinion at the risk of creating a real outburst of anger and rage that will do nothing to forward the debate. And for what? Fees for speaking engagements? Not a patriot. Just a selfish, self-righteous airhead."

absolutely right andwhat she is also doing, like most demagogues, is fomenting and inciting violence.

Posted by: drindl | February 9, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Dear Mr.CC,
You are being very unfair to Sarah Palin. Every politician wants to have his own great one-liners. She's very good in it, much better than Mr.Obama, whom you obviously SO admire.
And what do you mean by saying that in the political arena her weaknesses are considerable? She sounds so much smarter than Mr. Biden and she definitely know how to pronounce "corpsman", not like our Commander in -Chief who doesn't even know the military terminology. Without all the help President Obama is getting from his aides she would still easily beat him in any, one on one political debate about the politics of this globe.
Sarah is someone who loves this country and wants to do the best for her. I don't have this feeling about Barrack Obama. I trust her words so much more than his. I think that you, in the press, are elitists who look down on someone who didn't
go to an Ivy League School. She could speak in a little more sophisticated tone of voice, I give you that, but how can you even compare her sincereness to Obama's? She is so real, he's so phony.

Posted by: krys1 | February 9, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

I don't believe Palin will run for President.. why should she? She just made $100,000 for one event!!! Running COSTS money and chances are she wouldn't even win the Republican nomination and no way she gets elected President. Not to mention the pressure and work it would take to run.. No Palin will sit on the sidelines.. but she will still have a following and because of that she will have an impact.. and that means she'll still make money.

Posted by: sovine08 | February 9, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

This is a depressing post. We all know Americans as a whole tend to be too lazy to pay attention beyond the sound bites, but I never enjoy being reminded of it. Sarah Palin has polished the art of the sound bite to a brilliant luster, and honestly, if you understand the ins and outs of American politics, you can't fault her for it, because it's one of those things that helps you win elections without actually making yourself vulnerable as policy proposals would. It's the same with attack ads; the polls say everyone hates them, but a whole lot of those people polled are lying through their teeth when they say it. Somehow, we've gotten this idea that we should vote for someone based on his or her charisma and -- even worse -- how similar he or she is to us, instead of, like, the actual stuff he or she might do if elected.

Nnnnngh.

beeker25, did Palin really say she gets her information from e-mails? I really hope that was taken out of context. Even the most ideologically rigid people I know are smart enough to know that 99 percent of the e-mails that get forwarded to them are pure hooey. I'd tune into those presidential debates, though. "I've been talking to my constituents, the real Americans, and the people have said they want someone in the White House with the ability to significantly increase the length of their p---"(cut to commercial).

Posted by: GJonahJameson | February 9, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

The issues facing this country are complex to begin with. There is no realistic solution that can fit into a sound bite or onto a bumper sticker. Busy lives don't relieve us from our duty to be informed on the issues. That includes being informed about the tactics of politics so that we can hopefully separate spurious claims from legitimate debate. Sara Palin and the entire Tea Party movement represents the dumbing down of the voters and leads only to impassioned positions with little substance to back them up. The real wake up call needs to be that we all have a duty to be informed before we vote or give our opinion. In the absence of at least some study about the issue we should acknowledge our ignorance on a subject and refuse to give an opinion until we are informed.

I believe our country's political system is reaching a crisis point where if we don't wake up and take responsibility for being informed, we are threatened with the collapse of the system, starting with our economy. Come on people, wake up! Your country needs you. As far as Sara Palin is concerned, crib notes and all, I think she is doing the country a great disservice fomenting rage from simple minds who lack the intellectual depth to have an informed opinion at the risk of creating a real outburst of anger and rage that will do nothing to forward the debate. And for what? Fees for speaking engagements? Not a patriot. Just a selfish, self-righteous airhead. Shame on the Republicans for elevating her status and launching this insane "movement". And shame on the Republican leadership in Congress for failing to negotiate in good faith. You lost, for good reason. Get over it and start over with some creative ideas that represent real conservative alternatives or get out of the way and let more responsible people do it.

Cheee.

Posted by: BillCheekJr | February 9, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

It is unseemly to beg:

Appealing for bipartisanship in a town where it's lacking, President Barack Obama sat down with Democrats and Republicans Tuesday to spur cooperation on job creation, deficit reduction and health care overhaul. He promised to do his part — but warned he would take Republicans to task if they don't do the same.

Posted by: drivl | February 9, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

It's hard to take barry seriously for the following reason:

In over a year he has accomplished nothing as present ident. even with overwhelming majorities in BOTH houses.

Just a small sample of liberal leadership.

On the down side:
unemployment has soared
debt is through the roof
Iran is about to get nukes
N Korea is testing new missiles
the fraud of global warming is getting a new big government office
democrats are being run out of office by the truckload
corruption and bribes are running amok

He did however, choose a dog.

Posted by: drivl | February 9, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

'Drivl, if you don't know it, your writing style when you write your own words is dramatically different. I can spot your plagiarisms from a mile away.'

all of us can, and the multiple names as well. he's been a running joke here for years.

Posted by: drindl | February 9, 2010 2:29 PM | Report abuse

'dd, just hopin' he doesn't forget to take his 23 smashed aluminum soda cans to Piggly Wiggly to redeem them for cash.'

yes, i picture him pushing the shopping cart down the street, kicking dogs and snarling at children and old folks...

Posted by: drindl | February 9, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

drivl,

I don't know why you do this, but why don't you give credit to the real author of your last two posts:
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President Say Anything Does So, Again and Again
Townhall ^ | February 5, 2010 | Hugh Hewitt

Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 2:48:51 PM by 2ndDivisionVet
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As you can see, this was lifted word for word from Townhall.

Drivl, if you don't know it, your writing style when you write your own words is dramatically different. I can spot your plagiarisms from a mile away.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | February 9, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse

It's hard to take Palin serious for the following reasons:
She quit her job as a Governor with no good reason. She left the town of Wasilla in debt. She talks "folksy" - but it actually makes her look uninformed and silly. Her criticisms are stupid and inane (teleprompter - she used one at the Republican Convention; someone reading notes shouldn't critique someone using a teleprompter). She writes notes on her hand to tell her what's important.

Posted by: rlj1 | February 9, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

'On Friday, Governor Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota gave a speech to Republican Party activists in Montgomery, Alabama. But Pawlenty, who's seen as a top GOP presidential contender for 2012, brought something with him besides his notes, reports Minnesota Public Radio: a $100,000 check for the Alabama Republican Party, from an anonymous donor.'

why not just bring cash in a brown paper bag?

Posted by: drindl | February 9, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

That’s not amazing as the president’s rewrite of budget history, which somehow ignores that the budget deficit was $161 billion in 2007 and now stands at $1.6 trillion, a staggering number that is spooking markets. “We’ve also got to get back to fiscal responsibility,” the president told the senators, and the listeners outside the room howled. Not only is the president not persuading the public of his ideas or his leadership skills, he is shrinking before their very eyes. It is a poor impersonation of Jon Lovitz, with the president thinking “that’s the ticket!” with every paragraph he uttersThat’s not amazing as the president’s rewrite of budget history, which somehow ignores that the budget deficit was $161 billion in 2007 and now stands at $1.6 trillion, a staggering number that is spooking markets. “We’ve also got to get back to fiscal responsibility,” the president told the senators, and the listeners outside the room howled. Not only is the president not persuading the public of his ideas or his leadership skills, he is shrinking before their very eyes. It is a poor impersonation of Jon Lovitz, with the president thinking “that’s the ticket!” with every paragraph he utters.

While the president pats himself on the back, however, the unemployment numbers climbed, the budget deficit shocked, the markets tanked and Iran threatened. President Obama is in a bubble of words and surrounded by “advisors” who are clearly overmatched by the world. Even Republicans have to hope a shuffle is ahead for the senior staff, and that some experienced leadership is brought to 1600. The country is in a difficult place, and unlike a debate tournament, losing a few rounds has enormous consequences.

We have to hope that the president recognizes that his speech offensive has become offensive, and that what really needs to be done is some work. Beginning with a red pen and his absurd budget. When he asks his party to do anything remotely difficult --and that does not include demanding ruinous taxes on the small businesses they so obviously disdain and in some cases despise-- people may begin to listen again.

Or perhaps not. President Obama may already be in reruns in most voters minds, which makes for a long three years ahead.

Posted by: drivl | February 9, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

"I have seen more of President Obama than I have of my wife," said the caller from Atlanta. "And I'm a newlywed."

Funny. And true. And sad. Stung by his defeat in Massachusetts after a personal appearance on behalf of Martha Coakley and a long speech telling Massachusetts voters why they had to send her to Washington, President Obama seems intent on punishing the entire nation with speech after speech after speech.

We are to be cajoled into submission.

It isn’t working. “He talks and talks,” Mark Steyn said on my show Thursday. “And the more his rhetoric is detached from reality, the more he’s actually devaluing his only currency which is words.”



President Obama’s meeting with Senate Democrats on Wednesday is the perfect example of the political cul-de-sac he finds himself in. He is trying to use words to change the political weather, but the more he speaks, the more ridiculous his arguments appear

He told the senators that "they needed to get out there, get out of Washington, out of the echo chamber." This is laughable when this past August is recalled. Democrats went home to their states and districts and found town halls jammed with Obamacare opponents. Then the president urged them to disregard the voters. They did so, and their political peril is palpable. Now the president is telling them to hold more town halls.

Posted by: drivl | February 9, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Chris, sometimes I don't think you are even pretending to hide your left leaning viewpoint. But every now and then, you write something wherein it seems you have made an attempt to approach the subject from a neutral vantage point. (I think you were trying to do that in this column.) And yet even then, you have difficulty hiding your bias. In this article for example, you write, "From her infamous 'the difference between a pit bull and a hockey mom' line..." Why say, "infamous"? Objectively, it's a famous line. You'd only think it was infamous if you didn't like it.

Posted by: dcsuburb | February 9, 2010 2:16 PM | Report abuse

That is, when he's not taking time out from his busy day to regale us with stores of his millions of dollars, his yacht, his economics degrees, or whatever he wants to pretend he's doing with his life.

Posted by: DDAWD | February 9, 2010 2:04 PM
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dd, just hopin' he doesn't forget to take his 23 smashed aluminum soda cans to Piggly Wiggly to redeem them for cash.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 9, 2010 2:16 PM | Report abuse

poor drivl -- he's so simple-minded he thinks he can post his drool here every 2 minutes and still convince people he has a job/life. but everyone knows better. i doubt there is anyone who even reads his crap.

Posted by: drindl | February 9, 2010 2:08 PM
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The posts I don't read are the ones that do not interact with other posters. I don't read posters who claim to have the right to determine what the "real" issues are and what subjects can be discussed. I don't read posters who are hysterical. I don't read posters who are paranoid.

I do read posters who try to be somewhat even handed. I read posters who use moderate language. I read posters who don't try to control the blog. I try to be one of those posters, but don't always succeed.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | February 9, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse

"Leading House Republicans raised the prospect Monday night that they might refuse to participate in President Obama’s proposed health care summit if the White House chooses not to scrap the existing reform bills and start over.

--this really is a gimme. Set up the room with a side for the Democrats, including nameplates, one for the Republicans, including nameplates, and hold the summit no matter what. If they come, you can have the summit. If they don’t, then you can have the summit without them, and can use the time (as the camera pans over their empty seats) to promote the positive aspects of the current bill all while discussing the only GOP plan out there- the Paul Ryan bill. I’d suggest panning the room a good bit.

And if the Republicans don’t take a hit in the polls for refusing to show up, and if the media does not rip the Republicans apart, then you all can take out a shovel, beat bipartisanship in the back of the damned head until dead, and bury it in the WH yard, and start acting like you have large majorities."

Posted by: drindl | February 9, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

"According to her, she gets her advice from emails but never said who sent it to her.

Posted by: beeker25 "

Maybe she's not aware that emails are actually sent by people. She might just think they magically appear in her inbox.

Posted by: DDAWD | February 9, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

And drivl, while your at it, please share your evaluation of Obama's performance during his "scripted" Q&A with the House GOP leadership in Baltimore...

Posted by: ussamsarmy | February 9, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

"that he's an affirmative action product, that the "real" smart people at Harvard law .. made him president of the law review despite his obvious stupidity...

I think you have stumbled onto something here."

I'd love to hear your theory of how Obama got elected to be president of the law review...will you please share?

Posted by: ussamsarmy | February 9, 2010 2:09 PM | Report abuse

According to her, she gets her advice from emails but never said who sent it to her.

Posted by: beeker25 | February 9, 2010 2:00 PM
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Do you suspect the emails come from a higher power? Just kidding, just kidding.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | February 9, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse

poor drivl -- he's so simple-minded he thinks he can post his drool here every 2 minutes and still convince people he has a job/life. but everyone knows better. i doubt there is anyone who even reads his crap.

Posted by: drindl | February 9, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse

If Palin does decide to run for president in 2012 -- and everyone we talk to says she hasn't made that decision yet -- she'll need to step beyond the comfortable bounds of the soundbite and into a broader discussion of where she stands on the major issues of the day and why.

According to her, she gets her advice from emails but never said who sent it to her.

Posted by: beeker25 | February 9, 2010 2:00 PM
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It is our understanding Palin has never sat down for a legitimate, on the record interview by a legitimate MSM journalist.
Probably never will, unless the journalism community forces the issue.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 9, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

prove to us how smart and successful

DDAWD

you probably think that about a lot of people. from your perspective, I completely understand.

Posted by: drivl | February 9, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Another bucket of slime from the socialist media.

Future President Sarah will, I'm certain, forgive you.

Posted by: TeaPartyPatriot | February 9, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

I never said I thought berry was stupid. He does seem to be underqualified, out of his league, inexperienced and tone deaf. If those features add up to stupid, then I will have to agree.

Posted by: drivl | February 9, 2010 2:01 PM
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So happy you clarified that. Up until now, you didn't say that "berry was stupid", but now you do.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | February 9, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

"Sarah Palin's Nashville speech was the most significant oration of the 21st century."

...if you are under 5 or mentally deficient.

Posted by: drindl | February 9, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

that he's an affirmative action product, that the "real" smart people at Harvard law .. made him president of the law review despite his obvious stupidity...

I think you have stumbled onto something here.

Posted by: drivl | February 9, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

"We all know that you, drivl, think that Obama is dumb as a post. But, the American people don't agree with you, drivl. You are in the minority.

The American people did think "bush/palin is dumb" as you so articulately phrased it. You don't? You are also in a minority on that view.

Posted by: 12BarBlues"

haha, well, the guy's whole purpose in life is to prove to us how smart and successful and to prove to Chris C how "endowed" he is. That's why he copies and pastes stuff from other websites and calls that "debating"

That is, when he's not taking time out from his busy day to regale us with stores of his millions of dollars, his yacht, his economics degrees, or whatever he wants to pretend he's doing with his life.

Posted by: DDAWD | February 9, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Well let's review the facts:

Bush graduated from two very prestigious colleges. He won several national political campaigns. He flew jets.

Seems at least above average intelligence.

I never said I thought berry was stupid. He does seem to be underqualified, out of his league, inexperienced and tone deaf. If those features add up to stupid, then I will have to agree.

Posted by: drivl | February 9, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

If Palin does decide to run for president in 2012 -- and everyone we talk to says she hasn't made that decision yet -- she'll need to step beyond the comfortable bounds of the soundbite and into a broader discussion of where she stands on the major issues of the day and why.

According to her, she gets her advice from emails but never said who sent it to her.

Posted by: beeker25 | February 9, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

The problem with Palin's sound bites is that, as many have noted, they are codewords and dogwhistles for the organized hate community and unenlighted segments of the electorate.

When she speaks of "revolution," "taking back America," and "real amuuricuns," everyone knows what's she's talking about. One journalist, Charley ("S-mbo-gate") James, found she doesn't always talk in code but can be quite explicit about her views of her fellow man.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 9, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin's Nashville speech was the most significant oration of the 21st century.

See:

http://notionscapital.wordpress.com/2010/02/09/tennessee-tea-party-sarahs-sassy-speech/

Posted by: MikeLicht | February 9, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

"the disaster is when he speaks off prompter, like at his last press conference in JULY. JULY!

He accused the white police of racism, while admitting he knew nothing about it. all he seems to know without help is black anger and redistribution.

since then his handlers have not allowed him to speak off the cuff. Strictly scripted events for barry."

Ok, drivl, how do you explain the press conference he's giving...right now?

Oh, yeah, how about that Q&A at the Republican House convention in Baltimore?

Was that scripted? I'm sure you skipped out on that one. I recommend it. You might learn something.

His "scripted" performance was SO disasterous that Senate Republicans turned down his invitation to do a similar Q&A. Why would they do that if Obama was such low lying fruit?

I know it makes you feel better about yourself to assert over and over that Obama is dumb, that he's an affirmative action product, that the "real" smart people at Harvard law somehow knew he was going to run for presdient and made him president of the law review despite his obvious stupidity...

I know all that makes sense to you. Really.

Posted by: ussamsarmy | February 9, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Like it or not, the "death panels" idea she floated on Facebook

Actually I heard that the FB posts that "Palin" put in was really done by Rebecca A. Mansour. Ironically she and another guy resign from the Conservatives4Palin unexpectly. All you have to google Palingate you will find many blogs on it with evidence.

Posted by: beeker25 | February 9, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Here's a bite:
Caribou Barbie: Delivering Softporn to Religious Fascists Everywhere!

Posted by: MikeK3 | February 9, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

you mean like bush/palin is dumb and obimbo is smart?

It's OK stooge. We know, we know.

Posted by: drivl | February 9, 2010 1:44 PM
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We all know that you, drivl, think that Obama is dumb as a post. But, the American people don't agree with you, drivl. You are in the minority.

The American people did think "bush/palin is dumb" as you so articulately phrased it. You don't? You are also in a minority on that view.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | February 9, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Palin has become the fabricated version of Barack Obama that Republicans were screaming about in 2008. All celebrity and coped soundbites. no substance to run and protect this country.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: parkerfl1 | February 9, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Palin gives great speeches because she states the obvious that congressional Republicans fear to speak. Fear has frozen Republicans into silent witnesses of Kenyan born Barry Sortero's transformation of USA into a bankrupt third world communist government. Was Barry Goldwater afraid of Our Dear leader David Rockefeller, age 94, and his VP Henry Kissinger? No. The real Barry spoke and people approved unlike the imposter Barry Sortero.

Posted by: mascmen7 | February 9, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Obama Is Making a Surprise Appearance
at Daily WH Press Briefing
- On Fox News now


Mr thin skin responds to his critics. He is now in full reactionary mode and is as dangerous as a cornered animal.

Instead of leading, he is mostly interested in being liked, a dangerous position for a present ident.

Posted by: drivl | February 9, 2010 1:47 PM | Report abuse

So far, I have seen three articles about Madam Twit in todays WaPo. Did not read them as it is a waste of time. I did scan the pictures of her. I just want to point out how scary her supporters are. #1, they have the right to vote. #2, they have the right to bring children into the world, which is also very sad as these children will enter the world with obvious mental disadvantges. TFL, Ken GO SAINTS!!!!!

Posted by: kentigereyes | February 9, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

That he would take such simplistic approaches to everything just smacks of someone who doesn't put much thought into anything.

Posted by: DDAWD


you mean like bush/palin is dumb and obimbo is smart?

It's OK stooge. We know, we know.

Posted by: drivl | February 9, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Check out sportscaster Sarah Heath (as she was then) from 1988:
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20222714,00.html

She does a fine job doing a 5-minute sports roundup that somebody wrote for her. Once the scripted portion ended, it turned into Katie Couric: The Prequel.

Posted by: mwallace8831 | February 9, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

"Ddawd, do you think GWB was dumb because he spoke poorly or because his first five years as POTUS was right wing GOP plus neocon foreign policy?"

A little bit of everything. He had his slavish devotion to right win economics. Slavish even by Republican standards. Even RWR and GHWB weren't as staunch Reaganomicans as GWB. I doubt Romney or McCain or Huckabee follow those policies off a cliff the way that Bush did. There was talk in the previous thread of Orwellian language. I think Bush personified newspeak as much as anyone could. He had a habit of reducing things to oversimplistic dichotomies, good vs evil, with us or against us, support the war or support the enemy, victory vs defeat. Obviously a lot of that was to rally his base, but it also reflected his own thinking. That he would take such simplistic approaches to everything just smacks of someone who doesn't put much thought into anything.

Posted by: DDAWD | February 9, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Barry Soetero can't remember his own name so he needs a full complement of teleprompters everywhere he goes.

the disaster is when he speaks off prompter, like at his last press conference in JULY. JULY!

He accused the white police of racism, while admitting he knew nothing about it. all he seems to know without help is black anger and redistribution.

since then his handlers have not allowed him to speak off the cuff. Strictly scripted events for barry.

Posted by: drivl | February 9, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Let us imagine Sarah Palin standing behind a lecturn before the Democratic Caucus trying to answer questions off the top of her head as the President did before the House GOP retreat. I'd welcome her to write crib notes all the up way her biceps if she wished, all to little avail. She doesn't have the chops to discuss (or more importantly, the desire to learn) policy when a well-placed sound bite will do. To her credit, that is something she does know.

Before a not-so-loyal opposition, and sans teleprompter, Obama displayed a command of the facts and spoke truth to Republican talking point nonsense when it was presented in place of a serious question. Palin has developed enough street smarts to avoid putting herself in the position of being directly accountable for what she says (if the Katie Couric debacle didn't convince her, the Charles Gibson interview did). Hence, she now limits her exposure to the friendly confines of Tea Party conventions, the virtual reality of Facebook and the alternate universe that is Fox News.

God Bless America: Home of the Free, and Land of the Easily Duped.

Posted by: hardrain | February 9, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Iran began enriching uranium to a higher level on Tuesday over the vociferous objections of the U.S. and its allies who fear the process could eventually be used to give the Islamic republic nuclear weapons.


I bet a deadline would stop them in their tracks. No, I mean another deadline. No really this time.

Well then maybe an apology.

Posted by: drivl | February 9, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Short Attention Span can't remember 5 words so she has to write it on her hand, like a small child cheating on a test.

Posted by: drindl | February 9, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Seems to me the Republicans DO have some thinkers. Just have to wonder where they are/why they're keeping their heads low . . .

Posted by: post_reader_in_wv | February 9, 2010 12:47 PM
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In my opinion, the Republicans have been yowling for years about painting Democrats as over-educated elites. But the message got away from them. The Republican base just heard the message "over-educated elites are evil", didn't pay attention to which party, and now vilify ALL elites. The Tea Party movement is the embodiment of that message gone viral.

And that is why Republican thinkers keep their heads down.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | February 9, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse

How much did she/Fox pay for that WIG? Ain't no way that is her real hair. AIN'T NO WAY!

Posted by: sm4269a | February 9, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Short Attention Span

you must mean like announcing a new era of frugality one week and then announcing an all new spending splurge, triple the previous amount, the following week.

Posted by: drivl | February 9, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Handlers cost money. I would think that PAC dollars could be spent on them, but even when you're getting paid $100K to give a speech to 'grassroots' activists, those little expenses start adding up. If you're paying your own travel expenses, then you have to cover the handlers' expenses too. It doesn't take too long to start biting heavily into one's takehome pay.

Posted by: bsimon1 | February 9, 2010 1:10 PM
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You are probably right, not hiring handlers is just being frugal. Another theory could be that Mrs. Palin doesn't think she NEEDS handlers, despite the fact that all other politicians have handlers.

Of course if someone is posturing to become the POTUS, maybe pinching pennies shouldn't be her first priority. If she waits much longer, there won't be any "undecideds" on her competence - everyone will have made up their minds.

Then, handlers won't matter much.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | February 9, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

She HAS handlers, they're just bumblers. Who else would she hire, except members of her own family? Gotta keep funneling those SarahPAC dollars into SarahPOCKET.

Posted by: drindl | February 9, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Short Attention Span is nothing but a product, like toothpaste.

'she is not adequately equipped' sums up her entire persona.

Posted by: drindl | February 9, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Do you think Mrs. Palin knows that Afghanistan and Pakistan border Iran? Would she like to drop a big one on all our troops? Does she know where Yemen is located or Myanmar? Does she know that Turkey is a democratic country, not just a bird you shoot for dinner? Does she know what world leaders would think of her and her simplistic, "hopey changey, thing" blurbs? She'd be laughed off the world stage, if she didn't bomb it first.

Posted by: clairevb | February 9, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Hey Democrats,get used to it,the next President of the US name will be President
Sarah Palin after she kicked Barack Obama
stinking butt all the way back to Kenya!

Elect Sarah Palin and Scott Brown our next
great President and Vice President in 2012!

Posted by: Ralphinphnx | February 9, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

"Clearly, she is not being handled. I'm assuming she doesn't WANT to be handled..."

Handlers cost money. I would think that PAC dollars could be spent on them, but even when you're getting paid $100K to give a speech to 'grassroots' activists, those little expenses start adding up. If you're paying your own travel expenses, then you have to cover the handlers' expenses too. It doesn't take too long to start biting heavily into one's takehome pay.

Posted by: bsimon1 | February 9, 2010 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Anyone who was gullible enough to vote for Mr empty suit Barry Soetero is clearly dumb enbough to swing back the other direction with simpleton chanting.

Mmmmmmm Mmmmmmm mmmmmmmm

there have been 30 percent swings in the last three elections. with numbers like that, the house will lose 190 Democrat seats.

Oh the glory!

Jimmy Carter is beginning to look like a stunning success next to this guy.

Posted by: drivl | February 9, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Luck for us she can only fit so much writing on her palms... If using a teleprompter is somehow bad, what about using crib notes?

Posted by: thecorinthian | February 9, 2010 1:04 PM | Report abuse

"so while both are clearly morons"

DDAWD

consider the source.

Posted by: drivl | February 9, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Ddawd, do you think GWB was dumb because he spoke poorly or because his first five years as POTUS was right wing GOP plus neocon foreign policy?

I only ask b/c GWB proved in TX to be a skilled politician and one who could work across the aisle. He never showed the chops to be POTUS, of course. Just remember this in 2012 - If Goodhair wins in 2010 he is a formidable campaigner. If he runs for Prez, he will be the Rs next new thing. He thinks he can do it and he is far prettier in a macho way than all the others. But next to him GWB is a highly principled policy wonk.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | February 9, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

There's a column on 538.com on how Palin seems to lack any sort of handling. There's no one to tell you "hey, don't write stuff on your hand" or "don't fight with a 17 year old" or "make sure you're ready for that Gibson interview" Bush seemed to have better advisers, so while both are clearly morons, Bush had people to help him work around his mental deficiencies. Palin doesn't.

Posted by: DDAWD | February 9, 2010 12:36 PM
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Clearly, she is not being handled. I'm assuming she doesn't WANT to be handled, as she resented it so during the campaign. Without handlers, she will continue to reinforce the stereotypes about her (writing on her hand really reinforces the narrative that she's immature).

Ah, hubris can be costly.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | February 9, 2010 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Chris Cillizza wrote:
"Soundbites -- even when delivered with the skill Palin displays -- are not, in the long run, a substitute for substance and won't persuade those who have doubts about her that they misjudged her abilities."

"Sarah Soundbite." How's that for a soundbite? Maybe not as snarky as "charismatic guy with a teleprompter" (said without a trace of irony by Sarah Soundbite, she of the "PalmPrompter" herself) and certainly more charitable and less-disrespectful than "Caribou Barbie" (said by many of her ill-mannered critics). Certainly not as utterly and cynically devoid of truth as "death panels." OK, OK, so "Sarah Soundbite" maybe not particularly memorable. Soundbites MUST be memorable.

One's ideology/political affiliation is not the issue here. Political positions aside (yeah, fat chance . . .), do you want soundbites or do you want actual thought? Seems to me the Republicans DO have some thinkers. Just have to wonder where they are/why they're keeping their heads low . . .

Posted by: post_reader_in_wv | February 9, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

The Obama administration resembles nothing so much as a big house in the suburbs where the parents are away for the weekend. In the absence of any responsible person to take charge, the Teenager-in-Chief is letting the rest of the adolescents run wild.


They've maxed out their parents' credit cards and have begun working on their overdraft lines in earnest, as the T-I-C's budget, which proposes a $1.5-trillion deficit for the coming fiscal year, attests. With "what, me worry?" aplomb worthy of a Mad Magazine cover boy, Barack Obama delivered to Congress a bloated document which proposes that more than 40 percent of federal spending be done with borrowed money, and some of the rest courtesy of renewed taxes on America's "rich" -- those people and small businesses making unholy annual incomes greater than $250,000.

Under new laws governing parents' rights with regard to their adolescent children, the Teenager-in-Chief's academic records can't be sent home without the student's consent. That has led to a great deal of speculation about whether the T-I-C really did complete the requirements for his college degrees, and if he did so, whether he distinguished himself as a student. Even though we footed the bill for our adolescent's education and are paying for the consequences thereof, we haven't been afforded so much as a glimpse at the papers he wrote or the marks he received for them.

I mean, jeez, what more do you want? The T-I-C is already working harder than he ever thought he would have to. He barely has time for golf and pickup basketball games and date nights any more, and you know how important those are to any teen. So of course he's angry.

He's angry at the overwhelming problems he "inherited" from the previous administration. And he's angry because despite the fact that he had bulletproof majorities in both houses of Congress, the American public was too stupid to understand his health care initiative and the wonderful things it would do for them, and so he couldn't get that legislation pushed through.

Never mind that his is the anger of manufactured intellectual outrage unconnected to real-world experience. And never mind that it's the anger of psychological pain born in the midst of privilege few generations in the history of our planet have ever enjoyed. It is ultimately an unpleasant and whiny anger, the anger of a rich kid bitxing that his parents haven't given him quite enough, the anger of a spoiled child who denigrates those who came before him for not being what he thinks they should have been. He's the Teenager-in-Chief, and he's not about to let you forget it.

Posted by: drivl | February 9, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

"The fact that anyone is paying her serious attention is both sad and laughable. I would say ignore her and she will go away, but I said that about W, too. She bears observing and needs to be shown for what she is: a vacuous poseur.

Posted by: soonerthought"

There's a column on 538.com on how Palin seems to lack any sort of handling. There's no one to tell you "hey, don't write stuff on your hand" or "don't fight with a 17 year old" or "make sure you're ready for that Gibson interview" Bush seemed to have better advisers, so while both are clearly morons, Bush had people to help him work around his mental deficiencies. Palin doesn't.

Posted by: DDAWD | February 9, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

really, how can 1700 people factually represent 120,000,000 voters?

Posted by: katem1 | February 9, 2010 12:28 PM
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I have some background in statistics, and have used statistics professionally. I think if you understood the science of statistics, you would agree that a properly chosen sample of 1700 can indeed accurately represent 120,000,000. BTW, I am on your side politically, so no insult meant.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | February 9, 2010 12:34 PM | Report abuse

the utter failure of Obama has made it easy to summarize it in bumper sticker phraseology.

Hopey McChange has morphed into Blamey McFailure

Posted by: drivl | February 9, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

I think most rhetorically skilled politicians are effective with soundbites. Obama didn't just start using them with the SOTU. It's a party of the landscape and all politicians know it.

The difference with Palin is that she seems to be limited to the soundbite. Reagan, Clinton, and Obama were also capable of forming more thought out points. Palin seems to be lacking in this ability. I think the best example of this was her response to the Katie Couric question on the bailout. It went from talking about tax payers to health care reform to shoring up the economy to job creation. All in the span of like two or three sentences. Then going on about lowering taxes and reigning in spending and something about trade. She can't really put together a more substantive thought. That's why she appears so skilled at the soundbite. She doesn't have much else in her arsenal. It's not that other politicians lack this ability, but they possess other skills as well.

Posted by: DDAWD | February 9, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

It wasn't the Republicans who killed the health care bill.


It was the the democrats in the Senate and the House who couldn't get their act together - and even by January did NOT AGREE ON A BILL.


It was the democrats who

- did the give-away to the pharmaceutical industry


- did the doctors' fix which was not paid for to the tune of $225 Billion


- gave a massive tax give-away to the unions on health benefits


- gave a massive give-away to Ben Nelson for Nebraska


- gave the massive give-away to Lousiana for Mary Landrieu (Congrats to her brother who has been elected Mayor of New Orleans)

SO WHO KILLED HEALTH CARE ???


and it was the DEMOCRATS IN MASSACHUSETTS who voted for Scott Brown

THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO KILLED OBAMA'S HEALTH CARE BILL.

Don't blame the Republicans - they really didn't do it.


Obama has a really horrible view of how government is supposed to work.


Checks and Balances are good, compromise is good.


Obama bad.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 9, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

great column today Chris, fair and balanced. the statement that she says things that like-minded people love is the true. thank you for showing how much of the country DOESN'T think she is eligible for President. though, I never like polls, even when I agree with their results. the questions are confusing in their vagueness, and really, how can 1700 people factually represent 120,000,000 voters?

Posted by: katem1 | February 9, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is like the comedic equivalent of Webster with her "whatchu talkin bout" one liners.

Posted by: ozpunk | February 9, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

""How's that hopey, changy stuff working out?" she asked supporters of the president."


Pretty well, thanks. Not perfect, but sure as hell better than the alternative. How's the remainder of your gubernatorial term working ... uh, nevermind.

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Posted by: bsimon1 | February 9, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

She's going to need to write crib notes not just on her palm, but on her arms and legs if she plans to run for president. In the Vice Presidential debate she couldn't even call Senator Biden by his last name for fear she would call him "Obiden." "Can I call ya Joe?"
The fact that anyone is paying her serious attention is both sad and laughable. I would say ignore her and she will go away, but I said that about W, too. She bears observing and needs to be shown for what she is: a vacuous poseur.

Posted by: soonerthought | February 9, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

It's called a stump speech

Come on - guys - this is soooo silly.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 9, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Red Eye Celebrates Third Year By
Topping CNN Prime Time Last Week
Another first for Big-Everything Andrew Breitbart.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

Poll shows voters abandoning prez in droves
Perhaps a few days off television would help improve things.
Oh, and wear a tie

Posted by: drivl | February 9, 2010 12:15 PM | Report abuse

CC wrote: "While Palin's pithy one-liners win her applause from like-minded crowds"
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This is the most accurate one-liner about Mrs. Palin. I've read thousands of words, but this line really sums it up.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | February 9, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

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