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Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll

Texas Rep. Ron Paul won the 2010 CPAC straw poll tonight, a victory that will further energize his already enthusiastic supporters but will have little effect on the coming presidential contest.

Paul, who ran for president in 2008, took 31 percent of the vote. Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney had won the past three CPAC straw polls but placed second this time with 22 percent. Romney is considered the current frontrunner for the 2012 nod.

No other candidate scored in double digits. Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, who did not speak at CPAC, took third place with seven percent. (Full results are below.)

Be careful not to read too much -- or much at all -- into these results. Paul's supporters are loyal and loud but not, ultimately, that large a group as proven by the fact that he did not win a single primary or caucus in 2008.

2010 CPAC Straw Poll Results
Ron Paul 31%
Mitt Romney 22%
Sarah Palin 7%
Tim Pawlenty 6%
Mike Pence 5%
Newt Gingrich 4%
Mike Huckabee 4%
Mitch Daniels 2%
John Thune 2%
Rick Santorum 2%
Haley Barbour 1%

By Chris Cillizza  |  February 20, 2010; 5:42 PM ET
Categories:  Eye on 2012  
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Neither. He shoots the fly in the face and later it apologizes for being in the way.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 22, 2010 7:43 PM | Report abuse

37th&O thinks Cheney can "spear a fly with a toothpick".

What does he do with it then? Pull its wings off, or just waterboard it?

Posted by: Iconoblaster | February 22, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

A poll is a snapshot of support at that point in time. Polls taken in February of 2006 may not have even mentioned Barack Obama, let alone have predicted that he would get the nomination or would win the election in 2008.

Posted by: annetta3 | February 22, 2010 11:38 AM | Report abuse

One Smoot-Hawley short of a Hoover - that is a good one.


Up there with

Cheney can spear a fly with a toothpick.


Thank you.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 22, 2010 1:36 AM | Report abuse

Couple of perplexing names in this poll. Daniels, Barbour... Rick Santorum? Huh?!? Talk about a message from beyond the grave. This is the looooooser who lost his re-election bid by a staggering 18 points. As washed up as a piece of driftwood.

Lest anyone forgot, Santorum wrote a book about *having a family* as though it's an idea that he himself, if not the Republican Party, came up with on his own. Of all the pompous gall.

If this blithering idiot is the GOP's idea if a candidate they may as well go the Jonestown route. Seriously.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 22, 2010 1:17 AM | Report abuse

It's a long way from thinking you are the next Lincoln to being one Smoot-Hawley short of a Hoover - however we have witnessed the greatest descent of an ego in history.

Obama is going to be for the history books - the history of ego-driven disasters.

Everyone in the country - practically everyone - voiced that Obama should be concentrating on the economy and jobs - and what does Obama do?

Obama let's Harry Reid water down the jobs bill - and Obama goes back to health care.

How stupid is that - just when the country was comfortable with the direction and there was general agreement - general bipartisan agreement - Obama goes off in his own delusional state again.

One has to wonder if Obama's whole Presidential campaign was the work of a delusional person - making all these crazy promises that every rational person in the country thought could never be fulfilled.

But somehow he got the media to give him a pass just long enough to edge out Hillary - and then the economy and vast money (perhaps from overseas) carried him over the top.


History will look at Obama as a horrible accident - and be happy that the country escaped without more damage.

Let's just hope the moderate democrats can get to Obama - get him to come down to Earth long enough to have him recognize reality.


One really has to wonder what is going on in the White House right now - one station called them engaged in "group-speak" just not listening to anyone outside their own little circles - but they must talk to people on the Hill -


Well - there is a fine line between delusion and madness - and one has to start to wonder which side we are on.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 22, 2010 1:14 AM | Report abuse

Obama is making so many people even angrier at him by attempting to force through the health care bill again.


I simply can not believe that there are enough votes available from the moderate democrats - especially in the House - to allow him to move forward - so it really is a suicide mission.

This has got to be one of the dumbest political moves of all time - Obama probably will drop another 5 - 7 points in the polls.

I am still on the point that because the nation was not that familiar with Obama before he was elected, when Obama loses someone it will be really difficult for Obama to get that person back.

Who is advising Obama ? Who is in the room saying "Yea, I think that is a good idea." Because those people should be fired immediately. This is the most incompetent administration in decades.

We are talking Hoover-level incompetence - AND given the lack of attention to the economy - this administration is one Smoot-Hartley short of a Hoover.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 22, 2010 1:02 AM | Report abuse

Noacoler


That rant is hilarious !

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 22, 2010 12:38 AM | Report abuse

The Republicans can expose Obama for the fraud he is -

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BS. The Republicans couldn't pour piss out of a boot if the instructions were printed on the heel.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 22, 2010 12:30 AM | Report abuse

Obama said during his speech to Congress that the health care plan would be paid for.


The Republicans should call him out as a liar on that one -


Challenge Obama to come up with a plan that is actually paid for - not with accounting tricks.

The Republicans should call him out on the abortion provisions as well - see what the story is with the Stupak compromise.

There should be one or at most two Republicans who negotiate for their side - and they should insist on a round table which gives no side an advantage.

The Republicans can expose Obama for the fraud he is - but they have to be ready to call him partisan at a moment's notice - and call him out for wanting everything both ways.

The American People have already had it with Obama - once misstep on Obama's part and it will be played over and over and over again on the cable news shows until no one can forget it.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 22, 2010 12:20 AM | Report abuse

The Republicans should CONCENTRATE ON THE ACCOUNTING TRICKS - constantly change the subject to the REAL COSTS OF THE HEALTH CARE PLAN.


Obama is being irresponsible with the finacial aspects of the plan.


The Republicans should keep on constantly referring to the ACCOUNTING TRICKS.


- the $500 Billion cut from Medicare


- is that $500 Billion being spent twice


- the taxes kick in early, the benefits three years later.


ACCOUNTING TRICKS


ACCOUNTING TRICKS


ACCOUNTING TRICKS


Then the Republicans should say what REAL COST of the plan is - in the second 10 year period - and ASK OBAMA TO SAY HOW HE WILL PAY FOR THAT.

Obama's health care plan is going to be the ENRON OF GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS.


It is that simple.


ACCOUNTING TRICKS.


ACCOUNTING TRICKS.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 21, 2010 11:47 PM | Report abuse

People are just piping hot mad when they find out that Obama hasn't stopped this health care gambit.

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"People?". What "people" are getting mad about HRC? You? Who cares? You're a halfwit whose influence on the world is limited to making a nuisance of yourself on an unmoderated blog. In the grand scheme of things you matter as much as a gum wrapper in the trash.

In real life Obama's healthcare bulk IS a massive jobs program; the public option will get millions of employers out of the health insurance business and lead to massive hiring. A million families a years WON'T enter bankruptcy. Obama is doing exactly right.

Now quick, get in a few dozen more idiot hysteria posts before the
moderation comes back, you f|ucking moron.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 21, 2010 11:33 PM | Report abuse

People are just piping hot mad when they find out that Obama hasn't stopped this health care gambit.


Obama is really making a mistake.


It is amazing that Obama wants to repeat all his mistakes from the past year.

The country agreed that Obama is supposed to be working on the economy and jobs -


AND what does Obama do ? he goes back to health care - provoking ANOTHER fight - and taking the eyes of Washington and Congress off of the economy and jobs.


Obama is making this recession worse all by himself.


Is there anyway we can have a President who does what he is supposed to - instead of all this silliness ????

Has Obama spoken to ANY moderate democrats to get their thoughts on the health care - and the political sitution.


Has Obama completely forgotten that Bayh abandoned him already ???


Bayh was not insignificant - Obama is too stupid to realize that.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 21, 2010 11:13 PM | Report abuse

People are just piping hot mad when they find out that Obama hasn't stopped this health care gambit.


Obama is really making a mistake.


It is amazing that Obama wants to repeat all his mistakes from the past year.

The country agreed that Obama is supposed to be working on the economy and jobs -


AND what does Obama do ? he goes back to health care - provoking ANOTHER fight - and taking the eyes of Washington and Congress off of the economy and jobs.


Obama is making this recession worse all by himself.


Is there anyway we can have a President who does what he is supposed to - instead of all this silliness ????

Has Obama spoken to ANY moderate democrats to get their thoughts on the health care - and the political sitution.


Has Obama completely forgotten that Bayh abandoned him already ???


Bayh was not insignificant - Obama is too stupid to realize that.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 21, 2010 11:13 PM | Report abuse

Along the lines of those Tiger Woods ads…

I am Broadway Joe

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | February 21, 2010 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Obama is preparing for his Bipartisan Conference in the most partisan way.

Talk about Orwellian.

Next thing we will hear that after promising transparency for years, Obama is keeping sealed secret files about his birth........


OH WAIT


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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 21, 2010 9:40 PM | Report abuse

Me - finished college in three years with two science degrees

Posted by: DDAWD | February 21, 2010 9:14 PM


That's pretty impressive for a guy with one tooth.

Posted by: SuzyCcup | February 21, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Give me an admin account and I'll do it gratis.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 21, 2010 5:02 PM

I guess we can all agree on the relative value of your contributions.

Posted by: Moonbat | February 21, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

From Monday's Post article on the Washington Nationals:


"When Strasburg threw an eight-minute, 37-pitch bullpen session on a usually-quiet practice area behind the matrix of ballfields, he witnessed the way in which his typical morning became his franchise's showcase event."

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 21, 2010 9:32 PM | Report abuse

People are just piping hot mad when they find out that Obama hasn't stopped this health care gambit.


Obama is really making a mistake.

It is amazing that Obama wants to repeat all his mistakes from the past year.


The country agreed that Obama is supposed to be working on the economy and jobs -

AND what does Obama do ? he goes back to health care - provoking ANOTHER fight - and taking the eyes of Washington and Congress off of the economy and jobs.

Obama is making this recession worse all by himself.

Is there anyway we can have a President who does what he is supposed to - instead of all this silliness ????


Has Obama spoken to ANY moderate democrats to get their thoughts on the health care - and the political sitution.

Has Obama completely forgotten that Bayh abandoned him already ???

Bayh was not insignificant - Obama is too stupid to realize that.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 21, 2010 9:24 PM | Report abuse

The common sense scale - greatest to least

Glenn Beck - took one college course in theology
Sarah Palin - Took like a decade to finish a degree in...not sure...let's say it's a BA in beauty pageants.
Me - finished college in three years with two science degrees
George Bush - Harvard MBA
Barack Obama - Harvard JD
Ron Paul - Duke MD
Mitt Romney - Harvard JD AND MBA!

Given how Romney has been winning these CPAC polls and Paul won this year, it's pretty obvious that CPAC isn't about common sense candidates and are a bunch of French elitists. Why else would they keep voting for people so dangerously unqualified due to their lack of common sense. Hell, they are less qualified than Barack Obama who merely has a JD.

Posted by: DDAWD | February 21, 2010 9:14 PM | Report abuse

As an independent, these were the best candidates for the job of POTUS when I checked them out last election:

Ron Paul; Ralph Nader; Cynthia McKinney; Kucinich; Gravel.

Leaders with integrity.

Posted by: dianevmc | February 21, 2010 9:07 PM | Report abuse

Chris Cilliza!!

You FAKE reporter.

Telling us to not "read too much."

You are a joke and EVERYBODY who reads this article can see you're a fugazi.

How many 2nd places did RP get?

How many debates did he win?

You know he wasn't invited to the RNC, right?

So he had his own with 10,000 supporters.

Maybe you should look into the history of your govt. and RP's voting record.

Get a real job Cilliza if you're not going to encourage critical thinking you weasel.

Posted by: DoYouWantTruth | February 21, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Who would have thought - after Obama's campaign - that he would be obsessed with JAMMING A HEALTH CARE PROGRAM DOWN EVERYONE'S THROAT - THROWING ASIDE ALL BIPARTISANSHIP.

Obama just spent this week drafting his own behind-closed-doors PARTISAN PLAN.

So, what part of drafting this proposal is BIPARTISAN ??? Then he sets up this conference on Thursday, which is probably designed more to PROVOKE A PARTISAN FIGHT MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE.

If OBAMA REALLY WANTED TO BE BIPARTISAN, THIS IS CERTAINLY NOT THE WAY TO DO IT.


OBAMA IS A DECEITFUL LIAR.


OBAMA LIED.

OBAMA LIED.

OBAMA LIED.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 21, 2010 8:59 PM | Report abuse

Hey, what is it with michelle obama telling kids how to eat. Doesn't she have to turn sideways every time she enters a door?

http://www.threedonia.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Michelle-Obama.jpg

Posted by: SuzyCcup | February 21, 2010 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Thus, he's got no common sense.

Posted by: DDAWD | February 21, 2010 8:42 PM

Hmm, just like you!

Posted by: SuzyCcup | February 21, 2010 8:44 PM | Report abuse

You guys realize that Ron Paul is really well educated, right? He's no Glen Beck who was educated in a public library. Paul has got one of the most expensive degrees there is. Thus, he's got no common sense.

Posted by: DDAWD | February 21, 2010 8:42 PM | Report abuse

...is something the GOP hasn't solved yet.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 21, 2010 6:09 PM


The GOP has obama, remember?

Problem solved. Check.

Posted by: SuzyCcup | February 21, 2010 6:18 PM


I forgot. The GOP also has obamacare.

Check.

Posted by: SuzyCcup | February 21, 2010 8:41 PM | Report abuse

If Toyota can recall millions of cars, why can't we recall one defective president.

Posted by: SuzyCcup | February 21, 2010 8:39 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans should CONCENTRATE ON THE ACCOUNTING TRICKS - constantly change the subject to the REAL COSTS OF THE HEALTH CARE PLAN.


Obama is being irresponsible with the finacial aspects of the plan.


The Republicans should keep on constantly referring to the ACCOUNTING TRICKS.


- the $500 Billion cut from Medicare


- is that $500 Billion being spent twice


- the taxes kick in early, the benefits three years later.


ACCOUNTING TRICKS


ACCOUNTING TRICKS


ACCOUNTING TRICKS


Then the Republicans should say what REAL COST of the plan is - in the second 10 year period - and ASK OBAMA TO SAY HOW HE WILL PAY FOR THAT.


Obama's health care plan is going to be the ENRON OF GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS.


It is that simple.


ACCOUNTING TRICKS.


ACCOUNTING TRICKS.


.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 21, 2010 8:35 PM | Report abuse

drindl


No that is not the case.


But I think broadway joe has several different names.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 21, 2010 8:32 PM | Report abuse

I can see the posters on here are not arguing about arguing.


Keep up the good work !

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 21, 2010 8:29 PM | Report abuse

so is drivel 37? posting the same way now..

are all the wingers here the same physical person with multiple personalities?

Posted by: drindl | February 21, 2010 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Noacoler


I have to remind you never to use the word "knucklewalkers" because someone might say that it is racist.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 21, 2010 8:26 PM | Report abuse

After having some PhD's educate Ron Paul on economics (the guy thinks government should just print more money rather than get it from taxes), It think Ron Paul would be an excellent President in terms of following the Constitution and preserving the Bill of Rights.

Right now, our freedoms are more at stake than our dollars, recession or not. We cannot afford to have Leftist Presidents like Obama's and Clinton's ready to sign away our freedoms in exchange for government benefits paid for from our own tax dollars.

So, Ron Paul is a big YES!

Posted by: RealTexan1 | February 21, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

So the same tired old limp member reply from the stooges:

you are crazy

you live in your mothers basement

you are on meds

you inhabit a mental ward

you are evil

you are stupid

etc.

sure beats trying to defend the mountain of failures inherent in liberalism and the total void of leadership in the Democrat plunge.

Is this stuff available on some web page, because it is essentially the same spewtum we have seen for years from empty headed liberals who don't really have a thing to say.

you will not see them defend the policies of:
cap and tax
giant government
global warming fraud
kill kapitalism
spend, spend. spend
surrender and apology
lie and cheat
lecture/bored to death by teleprompter
vote PRESENT
Blame, BLAMe blame, ignore the fact you are in the overwhelming majority
consequences
deadlines
campaign promises
utter failure on all fronts
plummeting polls
election losses
........

Posted by: drivl | February 21, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Stooge2: dribbl. the ultimate in cut and paste from angry loony websites, with the advantage of not a single brain cell to slow the process.

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this from the lifer in a nut ward who posts pages out of National Review 365 days a year.

Three weeks till the doctor doodles and sketches taking "notes" from your obligatory monthly session.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 21, 2010 7:42 PM | Report abuse

All three stooges - PRESENT.

Let's call it family home evening for the "life" these idiots have.

but like barry, simply being PRESENT, doesn't indicate any semblance of sentient being.

Stooge1: the Ped. brimming with hate and envy, not a person she ever met that wasn't worthy of a queeny sanctimonious insult.

Stooge2: dribbl. the ultimate in cut and paste from angry loony websites, with the advantage of not a single brain cell to slow the process.

Stooge3: takes the 'cake with the baby' from DDAWD, the perpetual underperformer - Baghdad BJ. this clown thinks everything he reads on Kos is real. His tin foil hat is a little loose and the frequency Kenneth, is off.

yet the Kos polls are not 'journalistically accurate' having been more than 5% off in each of the three last landslides. Meanwhile the stooges chant on about the most accurate pollster - Rasmussen, with a records closest prediction in two national presidential campaigns.

Kool aid will be served at intermission.

I kind of miss the plain moronic emptiness of Ace McNumbnuts Loud and Dumb, a stooge who was too stupid for even this blog.

Posted by: drivl | February 21, 2010 7:36 PM | Report abuse

drindl wrote: "If Glenn Beck is the future of the Republican Party this sort of eliminationist rhetoric should make all of us fearful for the future of our country. The clowns who drove it into the ditch are calling for civil war if they're not allowed to finish the job, led by their clown in chief, Glenn Beck.""

Unless, of course, once the party has finished its purges, the purgees, with no particular reason to even try to stay loyal to the republican party count votes in their district and realize that they could run as American reform candidates, do so, and win.

THEN Gllen Beck joins a long list of radio heads spouting nonsense for high salaries.

Anyone remember Melvyn Mundt?

Posted by: ceflynline | February 21, 2010 7:34 PM | Report abuse

"Glenn Beck with a bit more of his revisionist history at CPAC 2010 and red meat for the audience there where everything that Ronald Reagan did spread magic fairy dust on the country and the only reason anything is wrong with America is because the evil dirty f%#king hippie progressives are a cancer that is destroying the country.

Pretty much more of his same schtick he's been doing on his show on Fox, but for a live audience. If this sounds familiar it's because he said the same thing back in June -- Glenn Beck: 'The progressive movement ... is the cancer' destroying the country:

One of the identifying signs of eliminationist rhetoric, some of you may recall, is that it compares its target bloc of people to a disease (and the deadlier the better).

Last night, Glenn Beck did just that for his national audience on Fox News:

Beck: All right, now, if all of this sounds like a government out of control, go back to the progressive movement. It is not what our founders of this country intended. One hundred years of this movement, and the government growing while our rights are shrinking. I've been saying now for awhile, and it really has clicked in my mind, um, that it is the progressive movement, it is the cancer that is inside both parties. It's why you don't feel like there is a choice. It's why John McCain and Barack Obama, you're going, 'You gotta be kidding me, right?'

Yeah, whoda thunk? John McCain was secretly a progressive this whole time!

And he repeated this same nonsense on Bill-O's show as a little preview to his speech at CPAC -- Beck previews CPAC speech: "There is a disease in the republic, and it is the progressive movement". If Glenn Beck is the future of the Republican Party this sort of eliminationist rhetoric should make all of us fearful for the future of our country. The clowns who drove it into the ditch are calling for civil war if they're not allowed to finish the job, led by their clown in chief, Glenn Beck."

See, Glenn Beck says there's a 'cancer' in both parties... go for it, Beckie!

Posted by: drindl | February 21, 2010 6:42 PM | Report abuse

obama won overwhelmingly and will again, Bra Lady .. and you have no electable candidates.

Posted by: drindl | February 21, 2010 6:35 PM | Report abuse

Oh, look. Pee-cup forgot to single-space.

Busted.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 21, 2010 6:34 PM | Report abuse

But Suzy, the GOP has nobody who can beat Obama. You knucklewalkers may hate him, but most voters are just impatient with him. Romney wears a shiny suit and watch da hair but he's plastic and phony and there are way too many voters who don't want a Mormon in the top slot and for some damned sound reasons.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 21, 2010 6:31 PM | Report abuse

...is something the GOP hasn't solved yet.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 21, 2010 6:09 PM


The GOP has obama, remember?

Problem solved. Check.

Posted by: SuzyCcup | February 21, 2010 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Suzy/37th, you're a damned idiot.

After the internicine savagery of the GOP primaries, Romney will be a shredded corpse buried in an expensive suit.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 21, 2010 6:16 PM | Report abuse

And the top three CPAC winners are all unelectable. Romney could get a lot of independents but your beloved Base would stay home. Palin would be a Democratic sweep and Pawlenty hasn't a chance.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 21, 2010 5:58 PM

First of all, Palin won't even run, so quit panting. Romney's the man. If you think our beloved base will stay home, be very careful on election day. You'll get trampled!

Posted by: SuzyCcup | February 21, 2010 6:11 PM | Report abuse

@noa: A perfect take. Cosign. The inability to identify a electable candidate who can win over the base for the primary is something the GOP hasn't solved yet.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 21, 2010 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Typical Republican swine, enemy of the truth, even when it comes from one of their own.

Why should Ahnold take a salary? He doesn't need it. How bloody sick to savage a man for being a good public servant. Find a nice lump, "Suzy."

Posted by: Noacoler | February 21, 2010 6:08 PM | Report abuse

...SCHWARZENEGGER: Anyone that says it hasn’t created a job, they should talk to the 150,000 people that have been getting jobs in California...

Posted by: drindl | February 21, 2010 5:54 PM


Drindl, did you know that Arnold refused his $175,000 salary as governor and worked for free? The statements you quote seem to prove he was well worth it.

Posted by: SuzyCcup | February 21, 2010 6:03 PM | Report abuse

37th: pot, meet kettle

pee-cup: this isn't some Internet poll, it's *CPAC*

And the top three CPAC winners are all unelectable. Romney could get a lot of independents but your beloved Base would stay home. Palin would be a Democratic sweep and Pawlenty hasn't a chance.

Drindl has it spot-on. CC downplays it because it doesn't fit his breathless GOP Rising meme, or his crush on "TPaw."

Posted by: Noacoler | February 21, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

A summit on health care this week??
What ever happened to obama's state of the union promise to "focus like a laser beam on saving and creating American jobs."

Posted by: SuzyCcup | February 21, 2010 5:55 PM | Report abuse

37 -- you're an idiot and everyone on here knows it. you post like a 5 year old.

On the increasingly rightwing ABC, Terry Moran echoes R propaganda and Ahnold blows him away:

"Today on ABC’s This Week, host Terry Moran noted the Republican Party’s staunch opposition to the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act that Congress passed last year and added that “it was summed up by Mitt Romney at the CPAC convention this week.” “[President Obama] scared employers,” Romney said. “So jobs were scarce. His nearly trillion dollar stimulus created not one net new job in the private sector.”

Responding to Romney, Republican California governor Arnold Schwarzenegger called out the GOP hypocrisy:

SCHWARZENEGGER: I find it interesting that you have a lot of the Republicans running around pushing back on the stimulus money and saying this doesn’t create any new jobs. Then they go out and they do the photo ops and they’re posing with the big check and they say, “Isn’t this great?”

Schwarzenegger then railed against his GOP colleagues for playing politics with the stimulus bill and attacked them for claiming it didn’t create jobs:

SCHWARZENEGGER: Anyone that says it hasn’t created a job, they should talk to the 150,000 people that have been getting jobs in California.

MORAN: In the private sector?

SCHWARZENEGGER: In the private sector and from the public sector. … So I’m happy that we got this money. I’m happy that we have put 150,000 people to work and there will be more people that are put to work because of it. "

Posted by: drindl | February 21, 2010 5:54 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans should CONCENTRATE ON THE ACCOUNTING TRICKS - constantly change the subject to the REAL COSTS OF THE HEALTH CARE PLAN.


Obama is being irresponsible with the finacial aspects of the plan.


The Republicans should keep on constantly referring to the ACCOUNTING TRICKS.


- the $500 Billion cut from Medicare


- is that $500 Billion being spent twice


- the taxes kick in early, the benefits three years later.


ACCOUNTING TRICKS


ACCOUNTING TRICKS


ACCOUNTING TRICKS


Then the Republicans should say what REAL COST of the plan is - in the second 10 year period - and ASK OBAMA TO SAY HOW HE WILL PAY FOR THAT.

Obama's health care plan is going to be the ENRON OF GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS.


It is that simple.


ACCOUNTING TRICKS.


ACCOUNTING TRICKS.


.


.

Posted by: 37thand0street | February 21, 2010 5:49 PM | Report abuse

drindl

I would hate to see your life - commenting on other posters as you do - put up some original thoughts.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 21, 2010 5:48 PM | Report abuse

What mental illness would make a woman want to talk about her breasts on a political blog?

Or maybe it's a guy, which is worse. Make it's JokeD, who's actually an aging transvestite.

Posted by: drindl | February 21, 2010 5:48 PM | Report abuse

Mr Cillizza, all Ron Paul did was show us how worthless these straw polls are.

Posted by: SuzyCcup | February 21, 2010 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Yeah wah cain't he have no good clean American name like Savage or Slaughter.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 21, 2010 5:33 PM


Yes, yes, you have it!
Savage Barack Obama, the perfect name.

Posted by: SuzyCcup | February 21, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

I wouldn't be so sure, Mr. Cilliza, not to 'read anything' into this poll. Maybe it doesn't fit your 'republicans rising' narrative because these results have establishment r's quaking in their boots.

Not because paul could possibly win, but because it signals a lack of enthusiasm over Romney and Pawlenty, the establishment candidates, and an anti-incumbent mood among the gop that could portend very low support for traditional goper candiates.

The tpers have a real 'throw the bums out' attitude, but the bums they are talking about are Rs, not Ds, becuase they are republican voters.

Posted by: drindl | February 21, 2010 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Yeah wah cain't he have no good clean American name like Savage or Slaughter.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 21, 2010 5:33 PM | Report abuse

The libertarians have already found their Jesus, Suzy. He's a befuddled old Representative from Texas with two first names

Posted by: Noacoler | February 21, 2010 5:18 PM


Yeah, Noacoler, I don't trust anybody with two first names or two last names (anderson cooper, for example). But what the heck is the name barack obama?

Posted by: SuzyCcup | February 21, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

I see 37 and drivel/mmonbat still have no lives... how many dozens of posts today, sunday, when nost have friends and family around.

but not the Lonely Boys.

Posted by: drindl | February 21, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

The libertarians have already found their Jesus, Suzy. He's a befuddled old Representative from Texas with two first names

Posted by: Noacoler | February 21, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Can all you libs just relax and have a come-to-Jesus moment, please?

Posted by: SuzyCcup | February 21, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Trollboi can use all-caps until he's alone in these comments but once HCR is passed by reconciliation over the gnashing and shrieking of the Party of Lies and Americans find their medical bills getting paid and coverage denials illegal, all his hysteria and nuisancehood won't amount to a hill if bits.

CC, can we please have "Ignore Poster?". Give me an admin account and I'll do it gratis.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 21, 2010 5:02 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans should CONCENTRATE ON THE ACCOUNTING TRICKS - constantly change the subject to the REAL COSTS OF THE HEALTH CARE PLAN.


Obama is being irresponsible with the finacial aspects of the plan.


The Republicans should keep on constantly referring to the ACCOUNTING TRICKS.


- the $500 Billion cut from Medicare


- is that $500 Billion being spent twice


- the taxes kick in early, the benefits three years later.


ACCOUNTING TRICKS


ACCOUNTING TRICKS


ACCOUNTING TRICKS


Then the Republicans should say what REAL COST of the plan is - in the second 10 year period - and ASK OBAMA TO SAY HOW HE WILL PAY FOR THAT.


Obama's health care plan is going to be the ENRON OF GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS.

It is that simple.


ACCOUNTING TRICKS.


ACCOUNTING TRICKS.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 21, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Who would have thought 15 years ago that both Bernie Sanders and Ron Paul would both enjoy substantial popularity at the same time - in the same era ???

What is going on out there ???

I saw Bernie Sanders once - he was campaigning for Congress - and to draw attention he was marching down the sidewalk - his supporters were actually banging pots and pans together - I guess to show some sort of solidarity with someone - they were making alot of noise but ..... well the guy got elected and even got himself into the Senate.

Ron Paul makes some good points - a great deal of the government programs should be cut.


The government is completely out of control - the democrats just want to ignore that basic fact - but they know.

I'm pointing out Bernie Sanders and Ron Paul - two opposite ends of the political spectrum - because there has to be some set of forces which are drawing people out toward the poles - the same forces are acting on both sets of people.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 21, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

BHO approval at 56% (Daily Kos, 2/21/10), 3% above his 2008 vote percentage. So, contrary to the anti-BHO narrative pushed in this space, the President has improved his standing among voters since his election. Keep up the good work, 44.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 21, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Hahahah Rasmussen again. It's always Rasmussen. Calling landlines during working hours and polling white-haired bigots with preloaded questions, the most discredited polling since "Dewey Wins."

Posted by: Noacoler | February 21, 2010 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Picking the one piece out if zouk's florid fantasy about this mythical demographic... VN doesn't have an income tax, only business taxes and perfunctory license fees. I think their priorities are just right.

I'll happily pay the taxes from the profits of my hotel in Rạch Gia. And past the few hundred bucks per month it costs to live there, we plan to donate to the temple.

You have fun yelling at the people out in the parking lot.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 21, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

the wages of extremism:

President Obama's approval numbers in the Rasmussen daily tracking poll have been quite volatile the last few weeks but today reached a new basement level -- with only 22% expressing strong approval, and 41% strong disapproval. The 19% margin favoring strong disapproval is the 2nd widest registered since Obama took office, and the 22% strong approval number is a new low.

Posted by: drivl | February 21, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Often times, Peds get frustrated with the state of their country. They do not like the President, or Congress, or the health care system, or the illegal status of Marijuana. Whenever they are presented with a situation that seems unreasonable to them, their first instinct is to threaten to move to Vietnam.

For example, if you are watching TV with A Ped and there is a piece on the news about that they do not agree with, they are likely to declare “ok, that’s it, I’m moving to Vietnam.”

Though they will never actually move to Vietnam, the act of declaring that they are willing to undertake the journey is very symbolic in Ped culture. It shows that their dedication to their lifestyle and beliefs are so strong, that they would consider packing up their entire lives and moving to a country that is only slightly different to the one they live in now.

Within Ped culture, it is agreed upon that if Vietnam had better weather it would be a perfect place.

Being aware that this information can be used quite easily to gain the trust of the Ped. Whenever they say, “I’m moving to Vietnam,” you must immediately respond with “I have relatives in Vietnam.”

They will then expect you to tell them about how Vietnam has a perfect healthcare system, legalized everything, air conditioned gyms, and no crime. Though not true, it will reassure them that they are making the right choice by saying they want to move there.

But be warned, they will reference you in future conversations and possibly call on you to settle disputes about Vietnamese tax rates. So use this advice only if you plan to do some basic research.

Posted by: drivl | February 21, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

you seem to get the flu alot. don't put things in your mouth that don't belong. those kindergaten viruses must savage you.

Posted by: drivl | February 21, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, zoukie, lonely weekend at home getting over the flu while my lover in in VN overseeing final construction of our future home (nhà chúng tôi tương lai). At least you have the nurses to talk to. Too bad you only get an hour a month with the doctor, who can barely conceal his disinterest in your hopeless case.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 21, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

The nastiness of the Ped:

-Want your country back, LOSER? Go pound sand
-He's also a complete idiot
-the Tundra Tramp
-when the nigras knew their place
-get past the tinfoil to read your private thoughts.
Say hi to The Voices.
-direct quotes aren't distorted facts, Cletus.
Your blubbering hero needs to deny his own words.
-With all my bullion i'd be worth a half billion overnight.
-The guy must be like eight years old.


this is the kind of anger, hate and general idiocy that passes for "thought" on the left these days. and you wonder why they are about to be extinct. the Ped can't make any friends in real life (possibly the combover or perhaps the stutter) so she comes here to spew insults to random strangers.

some life you got there Ped.

Posted by: drivl | February 21, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Another very lonely weekend in the life of the Ped.

don't you have a neighborhood dog you could go kick?

Maybe if you had your diaper changed you'd cheer up.

Loser.

Posted by: drivl | February 21, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

@noa: a-pit's posts are conclusive proof Paul's supporters are well aware of their hero's beliefs as documented in the New Republic article and elsewhere. Exposed.

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did he even mention Ron Paul? I thought it was just his usual canner "tribal" / "Democrap" rant.

The guy must be like eight years old.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 21, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Since the Right on the board, won't listen to the left. I'll note a notable Republican:

Powell pointed to the ending of waterboarding as an interrogation tool and the success of criminal courts to try terror suspects, both during the Bush administration, as examples of why Cheney's claims of less safety are not "born out by the facts." Powell supported the Obama administration's preference of criminal courts over military commissions for suspects, including 9/11 planner Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and Christmas day attacker Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, who, Powell pointed out, would get a lawyer in a military commission as well as in a civilian court.

Ahnold is next.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | February 21, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

I would like to see an honest President in my life time and I hope Mr. Paul wins in 2012.

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yeah give the daffy old coot the most important JAAAAAH-uuhhhhhh-AAAAHB in the country.

I'm all for it. With all my bullion i'd be worth a half billion overnight.

Seriously, grow up.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 21, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

@noa: a-pit's posts are conclusive proof Paul's supporters are well aware of their hero's beliefs as documented in the New Republic article and elsewhere. Exposed.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 21, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

I sense that not many posters - or reporters really understand the Republican party - and all the factions in it.


I don't think that many even understand the democratic party - somehow the liberals have gotten the idea that the moderate democrats do not exist - and that all the democrats agree with the far-left agenda - and are willing to run off a cliff to enact it.


All the hate spewed out on here - few people really understand what they are talking about.

Obama is wrecking the democratic party -

What is going to be left after Obama throws this fit this week ???


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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 21, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Ron Paul represents a threat to the finance-post-industrial complex in this country. This complex revolves around Goldman Sachs, the Federal Reserve and the Federal Government and their collective efforts to move us from one house of cards to another.I would like to see an honest President in my life time and I hope Mr. Paul wins in 2012.

Posted by: CATOMAN | February 21, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Broadwayjoe is an idiot bigot with distorted facts. You the BJ that spins CD's at GE dance nites? Get some education jethro.

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direct quotes aren't distorted facts, Cletus.

Your blubbering hero needs to deny his own words.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 21, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Naocooler is dick cheney haha

Posted by: clifalan | February 21, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Broadwayjoe is an idiot bigot with distorted facts. You the BJ that spins CD's at GE dance nites? Get some education jethro.

Posted by: clifalan | February 21, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

God bless Ron Paul for being brave and standing up to the dark forces that seeks to control we the sheeple. Save our cities.

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yeah and he'll reign in those black helicopters following you down the freeway and order the FBI to stop using lasers to get past the tinfoil to read your private thoughts.

Say hi to The Voices.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 21, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Obama's health care plan is going to be the ENRON OF GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS.


It is that simple.

ACCOUNTING TRICKS.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 21, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Obama's health care plan is going to be the ENRON OF GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS.


It is that simple.

ACCOUNTING TRICKS.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 21, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

The Honarable Dr Ron Paul (R) but really independant libertarian is the only rational person in the debate. Dr Paul makes sense in every one of his blogs and commentaries. Check his You Tube videos and hear for yourself. Dont let Chris here persuade you that he or his message are fringe. All the other major contenders are NWO, CFR, Bilderberg, Skull & Bones, Republicrat/Demican tools. God bless Ron Paul for being brave and standing up to the dark forces that seeks to control we the sheeple. Save our cities.

Posted by: clifalan | February 21, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Wow armpeg must be posting from a fossil bed. Nice to know he has to vent his bigoted swinishness in an anonymous blog ... If he said this crap at work he'll be escorted out of the building, and if he said it in public he'd be taking his teeth home in a baggie.

Hey pit-peg, how does it feel to turn on the TV (of course you're a TV-watcher, probably a smoker too) and see nigras on sitcoms and not as maids and janitors either, and seeing gays too?

Want your country back, LOSER? Go pound sand.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 21, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans should CONCENTRATE ON THE ACCOUNTING TRICKS - constantly change the subject to the REAL COSTS OF THE HEALTH CARE PLAN.

Obama is being irresponsible with the finacial aspects of the plan.

The Republicans should keep on constantly referring to the ACCOUNTING TRICKS.


- the $500 Billion cut from Medicare


- is that $500 Billion being spent twice

- the taxes kick in early, the benefits three years later.

ACCOUNTING TRICKS


ACCOUNTING TRICKS

ACCOUNTING TRICKS

Then the Republicans should say what REAL COST of the plan is - in the second 10 year period - and ASK OBAMA TO SAY HOW HE WILL PAY FOR THAT.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 21, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Two years ago, the Republicans wouldn't even let Ron Paul participate in the presidential debates, so either Ron Paul is marginalized or CPAC represents a marginalized group, or both. The most positive good that came out of CPAC week is the finding that Sarah Palin's grandson is receiving federally funded health care. There may be more family members, including possibly Sarah herself, who is receiving. Yay! for Republicans being caught out.

Posted by: kevten | February 21, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

This week with the health care conference is going to be something.


Obama is risking the political careers of half his party - if one includes the downticket races.


First, there is NO WAY that Obama can count on the votes of the moderate democrats in this political environment - Obama is completely delusional if he is not listening to that wing of his own party.

Next - the Republicans are not going to be caught off-guard like they were in Baltimore - Obama is not going to be able to slam-down all the Republican points like he did in Baltimore.


The Republicans are not going to agree to that format again.


Obama may thinks he is setting a trap - but he is the one who is going to get trapped.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 21, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

It figures, that Noacoler would trot out the race card on everyone who disagrees with his tribal member Barack Obama on anything. In the ghetto's where Noacoler 'chills' on the corners with the 'bros', Barack Obama can do no wrong because it's 'a black thing', and it's always 'the man'(the white man) 'who'se keeping them down'.
These racists voted for Obama by 97%, despite the fact that this guy was a Communist, and white and America--hater for his entire adult life, and had no experience in running anything in his entire life. All that mattered to them was that he was a tribal member. And now these same racists have the chutzpah to trot out the race card whenever someone mentions the truth. That takes ba**'s!

Posted by: armpeg | February 21, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

The legitimacy of libertarianism has waxed and waned but it's never come close to being serious. Rather it serves as a reference point for certain ideas, but absolutely nowhere near politically serious, and never as far from worth bei g taken seriously as now.

LP presidential candidate Harry Browne wrote at the height if Clinton prosperity that the drop in violent crime could be attributed to an incremental increase in the availability of handguns. Talk about a hobbyhorse.

Libertarians today are little more than sociopaths with a political label. Their conceit over self-reliance broadly accepts people dying on the sidewalks for failing to anticipate a run of bad luck.

Ron Paul is a libertarian. He's also a complete idiot. This is not a coincidence.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 21, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Remember this 31% are the libertarians - they are really not the tea-partiers.

The tea partiers are different.

I would pretty much disregard everything the liberals have to say on this blog about the liberatarians - they are just spewing hostility.

The libertarians want government to do just the bare bare minimum - which means defense, post office and scale back everything else as much as possible.

First, if you really look at how bloated and wasteful the governments at all levels are, they they are correct - up to that point.


Then they say, let's review ALL the functions of government and review what we have done - just because a progam was created in the 1960s or 1930s doesn't mean it should be kept going.

Anyway - these issues are sort of outside the more traditional economic conservativism - social conservativism - national security conservativism issues which have dominated the policy discussions.

I'm just attempting to describe what is going on - and some people stand in two different factions on different issues - it is not easy to describe the various factions - to break them out and get a handle on their strengths.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 21, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Right Wing nuts love senile old men.

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and they moisten their chairs at the sight of a suit and tie.

Co-sign that CC's "don't take it too seriously" would be quite different if his man-crush "TPaw" had taken it, or if the Tundra Tramp had come out on top.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 21, 2010 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Everyone look at 31% - and say this to yourselves - EVERY REPUBLICAN OUT THERE HAS TO WORK WITH THAT 31% IN THEIR PARTY


Which means, every primary, 31% of the voters are in that wing.

Every meeting, every party vote - it is not hard to see that a good chunk of the party hierarchy - the county committees are from that wing.

Conversely, the democrats have a similiar problem with the liberals - they are pulling the party to the left.

This is a difficult environment - it is difficult to field candidate which can win the primaries - and then move on to appeal in the general election.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 21, 2010 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Two consisten themes from Ron Paul supporters in these comments and elsewhere.

1) persecution complex. The media is (sic) out to get Paul because _______

2) Ron Paul will take us BACK. Not forward into the 21st century, but back to some time of phony romantic nostalgia when men were free, and, clear subtext, when the nigras knew their place. Maybe we'll get cholera and rickets back too.

Bloody whiners.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 21, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

What's the difference between Comrade obimbo and Donald Duck?

One has a bill. The other sticks you with the bill.

Posted by: Moonbat | February 21, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Beck did a great job. His speech came from his heart, instead of a teleprompter. I heard that obama was once again forced to sit in a corner and watch. Pay attention, barry!

Posted by: SuzyCcup | February 21, 2010 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Chris C. is right to warn his blog commenters to take this CPAC poll with a grain of salt.
Ron Paul won 31% of CPAC's straw poll because 52% of the voters voting were 18 to 25 year-olds, the age-group that has always been Ron Paul's primary supporters for president. The overwhelming number of conservatives and Tea Party members thruout the USA though, are generally older, more mature, and are politically more real politik, so this poll is pretty much meaningless exept to the Comrade Obama worshippers, who are in ecstacy over it, because they think that the GOP is in disarray. We're not. The fact is that, while there's some jockeying going on within the GOP to get nominated for the 2012 presidential election, it's way too early to take any one person seriously until about a year before the actual election.
By the looks of it, the Democrap Socialist's will run the incompetent racist white and America--hater, Barack Obama once again--who by then will have made a real mess of our economy with his Socialist Communist re-distripution of all wealth agenda--and the Republicans could run Donald Duck and win.

Posted by: armpeg | February 21, 2010 1:47 PM | Report abuse

I think we should ban all physicians from Congress. The ones who want to be there appear to have taken their "Physician As God" classes in medical school way too seriously.

Posted by: edismae | February 21, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Obama is really playing with fire on health care right now - he is risking pushing all the moderate democrats off a cliff - and the downticket democrats are going to get slammed.


I have never seen such an irresponsible President with his own party.

Obama truly has no idea what he is doing - Is anyone talking to him? Who are the old line guys in the Congress who can come to him and tell him what a disaster he is creating now ???


It was one thing for Obama to pull this refusal to be bipartisan thing last year, when not so many people are watching.

But now everyone is watching - this conference will be highlighted - and Obama apparently is pulling the same thing - so why would Obama do that ??? Why would he expose himself again ??? This is a disaster - the moderate democrats are furious - they want to put this mess behind them.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 21, 2010 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Right Wing nuts love senile old men.

Posted by: kaune | February 21, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe Yeah Beck commanded the idiot parade. Lol.

Posted by: AIPACiswar | February 21, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Cosign, BB. Gotta give Beck credit; he delivered big time at the CPAC. Really commanded the room, worked the crowd. Well done, Glenn.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 21, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

I find it curious that only only after Paul won this straw poll did Chris Cilliza feel it necessary to tell us not to read too much into the results. If it had been Sarah Palin on top, I am sure he would be telling us what a meaningful sign this is of where the country is moving.

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That's because Ron Paul won numerous straw polls that turned out to be meaningless predictors once the primaries and caucuses started to be held. In spite of money and probably more genuine enthusiasm than any other candidate (possibly save Huckabee), Paul was never more than a footnote in the primaries.

Palin is a horse of a different color (or is that lipstick). She hasn't been tested in a primary as a candidate on her own. If she were to win the CPAC poll despite snubbing the conference, that would be newsworthy.

I have to say that Glen Beck is entertaining. I caught a decent fraction of his speech. If anyone can claim to be a TP leader, it's him.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | February 21, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

Ron's take on civil rights legend Barbara Jordan:
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"And the November 1, 1996 issue of the alt-weekly Austin Chronicle offered some additional gems from Paul's oeuvre, including his thoughts about his former House colleague, the legendary Barbara Jordan (D-TX):

"University of Texas affirmative action law professor Barbara Jordan is a fraud. Everything from her imitation British accent, to her supposed expertise in law, to her distinguished career in public service, is made up. If there were ever a modern case of the empress without clothes, this is it. She is the archetypical half-educated victimologist, yet her race and sex protect her from criticism.""

You can have him, CPAC.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 21, 2010 10:33 AM | Report abuse

washpost35, we're beating a dead horse here, but you asked for more so...

From dailykos:

"Reading the entire article will show that I have not taken these quotes out of context, though the article is definitely not for everyone: it's a 3700-word racist tirade that is frankly stomach-turning in its depiction of African-Americans as violent, unevolved savages and even rapists. Without a doubt, it was articles like this one that prompted the Heritage Front, a Toronto-based neo-Nazi organization, to include the Ron Paul Political Report in its list of "Racialist Addresses and Phone Numbers.""
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This information on Paul's alleged "viewpoint" is widely available from many sources, including CNN, Texas newspapers, etc., but the main media bloviators have ignored it since it doesn't fit their invented narrative of Paul as populist crusader.

Facts are awkward things, aren't they?

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 21, 2010 10:02 AM | Report abuse

Anyone who takes Kos seriously is a buffoon.

Posted by: Moonbat | February 21, 2010 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: jaxas70
Actually, Ron Paul winning that straw poll confirmed for me what I had long suspected--that this CPAC gathering is not a serious convention attended by serious people; nor is it in any way representative of the thinking of the majority of people in this country. Is it only not serious when won by someone like Ron Paul who is NOT a corporate elitist?
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I find that strange - do you contrarily think that the CPAC gathering was serious during the prior three cycles when corporate elitist Romney won?

I find it curious that only after Paul won this straw poll did Chris Cilliza feel it necessary to tell us not to read too much into the results. If it had been Sarah Palin on top, I am sure he would be telling us what a meaningful sign this is of where the country is moving.
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Agreed.

Posted by: washpost35 | February 21, 2010 9:54 AM | Report abuse

"I find it curious that only only after Paul won this straw poll did Chris Cilliza feel it necessary to tell us not to read too much into the results. If it had been Sarah Palin on top, I am sure he would be telling us what a meaningful sign this is of where the country is moving.

Posted by: jaxas70 | February 21, 2010 9:46 AM"
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Better yet, what if Tim Pawlenty had won? Is there any doubt the straw vote would have been hailed as a "game changer"? :)

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 21, 2010 9:51 AM | Report abuse

The rebuttal is not a rebuttal boardwayjoe - Ron Paul has a clean record of helping all people. In fact he got more support from minorities than any other Republican last time around. No one has ever heard him utter anything racist or commit a racist act, unlike Hillary, or Romney's recent skirmish with the airplane rapper. That's because Dr. Paul is the most honest and fair politician in Washington.
Romney and Obama - same animal - corporate elitists. Any way you look at it you lose.
Ron Paul - like the Founders.
Who are YOU voting for?

Posted by: washpost35 | February 21, 2010 9:48 AM | Report abuse

Actually, Ron Paul winning that straw poll confirmed for me what I had long suspected--that this CPAC gathering is not a serious convention attended by serious people; nor is it in any way representative of the thinking of the majority of people in this country.

I find it curious that only only after Paul won this straw poll did Chris Cilliza feel it necessary to tell us not to read too much into the results. If it had been Sarah Palin on top, I am sure he would be telling us what a meaningful sign this is of where the country is moving.

Posted by: jaxas70 | February 21, 2010 9:46 AM | Report abuse

Here's one of the MANY rebuttals to Paul's hard-to-believe "But I didn't write it" defense:

"Years later, in an interview printed in the October 2001 issue of Texas Monthly, Paul changed his story about these and other racist comments: "I could never say this in the campaign, but those words weren't really written by me," he said. "It wasn't my language at all." Unfortunately, this explanation doesn't really withstand scrutiny. The Ron Paul Political Report was an eight-page newsletter, not a 200-page magazine; whether he employed other writers or not, it beggars belief that Paul would not have had full control and approval over its contents. Moreover, the L.A. riots article does in fact bear some evidence of having been written by Paul, at least in part. (For example, the article relates the observations of one Burt Blumert, who is labeled "expert Burt Blumert" but who is actually just a gold coin and bullion dealer in San Francisco who happens to be a longtime personal friend of... Ron Paul.) Regardless, the fact remains that Paul suffered these words to be published under his name in his newsletter as a representation of his views, and his efforts to distance himself from them are more than a little bit disingenuous."

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/5/15/124912/740

QED. Case closed.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 21, 2010 9:35 AM | Report abuse

More from the "Best" of Ron Paul (Dailykos):

"The only complete article from the Ron Paul Political Report on the Internet that I am aware of is a 1992 piece titled "LOS ANGELES RACIAL TERRORISM," on the subject of the so-called Rodney King riots in South Central Los Angeles in 1991. It is available to us today because it was posted to the talk.politics.misc newsgroup on July 30, 1993 by Dan Gannon, a notorious white supremacist and Holocaust denier, and archived by the Nizkor Project, an anti-revisionism organization that was active in cataloging hate speech on the early public Internet."

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/5/15/124912/740

Scary...

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 21, 2010 9:30 AM | Report abuse

Correction: It's unlikely "the base," as the teabagger/militia/secessionist wing of the GOP is often called by the MSM, WILL allow Romney to win primary, IMO.
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Does not make sense boardwayjoe - Neocon Corporate Elitist Romney, who is no different from Obama, won the last 3 CPACs. Now is time for real change. Ron Paul! Freedom!

Posted by: washpost35 | February 21, 2010 9:27 AM | Report abuse

Ron Paul winning is an encouraging sign. Maybe the Republican party is serious about getting back to what they used to stand for - limited government, individual liberty, balanced budgets, minding our own business, and not being the policeman of the world. Paul's a true conservative. He stands firm on his principles unlike Romney who's flipflopped on all kinds of issues.

Posted by: lc1982 | February 21, 2010 9:23 AM | Report abuse

This policy of smear and name calling - the only policy liberals like Boardwayjoe got. Boardwayjoe is terrified. Ha! Ron Paul did not write or edit that newsletter, it's old news. You got nothing on him. He's the one that will help the poor, by using the saved tax dollars from recalling American soldiers from overseas.

Posted by: washpost35 | February 21, 2010 9:18 AM | Report abuse

Correction: It's unlikely "the base," as the teabagger/militia/secessionist wing of the GOP is often called by the MSM, WILL allow Romney to win primary, IMO.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 21, 2010 9:17 AM | Report abuse

"Objectively speaking Romeny is probably their best bet politicially but I honestly think there are many conservatives that would rather vote democrat than Romney.

Posted by: cjpotter19 | February 20, 2010 11:23 PM
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It's unlikely "the base," as the teabagger/militia/secessionist wing of the GOP is often called by the MSM, will not allow Romney to win primary, IMO. They do, however, have a soft spot for Mr. Paul, perhaps based on the content of the writings in his name (see James Kirchick's New Republic article). They kinda like Mrs. Palin, too, BTW.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 21, 2010 9:15 AM | Report abuse

More from the "Best" of Ron Paul:

"While bashing King, the newsletters had kind words for the former Imperial Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan, David Duke. In a passage titled “The Duke’s Victory,” a newsletter celebrated Duke’s 44 percent showing in the 1990 Louisiana Senate primary. “Duke lost the election,” it said, “but he scared the blazes out of the Establishment.” In 1991, a newsletter asked, “Is David Duke’s new prominence, despite his losing the gubernatorial election, good for anti-big government forces?” The conclusion was that “our priority should be to take the anti-government, anti-tax, anti-crime, anti-welfare loafers, anti-race privilege, anti-foreign meddling message of Duke, and enclose it in a more consistent package of freedom.” Duke is now returning the favor, telling me that, while he will not formally endorse any candidate, he has made information about Ron Paul available on his website."
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Supporting Duke? Thanks for sharing, Ron...I guess. Wapitimo, Mr. Duke may have a teeny weeny problem with you being on Paul's transition team, just maybe.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 21, 2010 9:02 AM | Report abuse

Ron Paul. A favorite Southern gentleman. A true conservative in every way. The only representative who stands for the Constitution and has no ability to sell out to ANY special interest group.

Restore the Republic! Legalize the Constitution! Viva Ron Paul!

Posted by: wapitimo | February 21, 2010 8:42 AM | Report abuse

"The Washington Post has a special derisive bias against Dr. Paul. [Irrelevant junk omitted.]

Posted by: ftsmallwood | February 21, 2010 8:15 AM"
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After reading the Ron Paul newsletter, maybe the Post had grounds. Just sayin'.

Excerpt from the New Republic article on Mr. Paul:

"Martin Luther King Jr. earned special ire from Paul’s newsletters, which attacked the civil rights leader frequently, often to justify opposition to the federal holiday named after him. (“What an infamy Ronald Reagan approved it!” one newsletter complained in 1990. “We can thank him for our annual Hate Whitey Day.”) In the early 1990s, newsletters attacked the “X-Rated Martin Luther King” as a “world-class philanderer who beat up his paramours,” “seduced underage girls and boys,” and “made a pass at” fellow civil rights leader Ralph Abernathy. One newsletter ridiculed black activists who wanted to rename New York City after King, suggesting that “Welfaria,” “Zooville,” “Rapetown,” “Dirtburg,” and “Lazyopolis” were better alternatives. The same year, King was described as “a comsymp, if not an actual party member, and the man who replaced the evil of forced segregation with the evil of forced integration.”"

http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/angry-white-man?page=0,2


Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 21, 2010 8:39 AM | Report abuse

Reality, Ron Paul is the best candidate for a Presidency, which would save America! The man is a Constitutionalist, honest and very hard working and dedicated, loves America with his heart not just words of the mind! He knows how to get the job done, just as he got, “Audit the Fed,” passed! If you want more of what you've got, no business as usual, via the two party Elitist paradyne vote Romney or Huckabee, Gingrich, courtesy of the establishment Republicans and RINOs’, and should you waste your vote on Palin – a running mate that was chosen by John McCain, Obama will get a second term! Palin, will split your votes, very weak and is not able to be a president!

Posted by: PaulRevere4 | February 21, 2010 8:29 AM | Report abuse

The Washington Post has a special derisive bias against Dr. Paul. On July 12, 2008 over 5,000 Paul supporters held a march/rally down Constitution Ave to the Capital. The Post was specifically informed by news release that the March was ocurring. They decided it wasn't news worthy. The next day there wasn't even one line in their rag of a paper about the March and rally afterwood. The Post decides what is news, not just reports the news. They don't like Dr. Paul so anything related to him they report in a negative manner or don't report it at all. I specifically complained about their failure to report this March to the Post Ombudsman. Of course, their Ombudsman failed to ever get back to me at all. They just pretended their bad biased reporting never happened. Though, they weren't the only ones to do this. Most of the major media outlets in Maryland and nationwide did the same, including the right wing talk show hosts who hate Dr. Paul just as much as the liberal media outlets. Then, Americans can't understand why their political system is so screwed up, because they keep reading and listening to these type of reports by the establishment media. Chris Cizzilla would be glad to see Mitt Romney, a big supporter of universal healthcare win the GOP nomination. Don't be fooled again by the Chris Cizzilla's of the media again. "Be careful not to read too much -- or much at all -- into these results." Take Mr Cizzilla's advice and turn it back around at him. Don't read anything into his rag of an "article". His article just reflects his personal and company's bias against Dr. Paul, nothing more.

Posted by: ftsmallwood | February 21, 2010 8:15 AM | Report abuse

While some of his domestic ideas are good, Ron Paul was exposed to those of us who didn't know him well during the primaries last time around. He has too much of the fringe/kook aura surrounding him to be taken seriously as a presidential candidate.

Posted by: WanderingHawkeye | February 21, 2010 7:20 AM | Report abuse

"Ron Paul has a lot of "common sense" which is the phrase the mediocre and incompletely educated use to console themselves and salve their wounded pride. The kind of thinking whose whole appeal us its simplicity.

(pause)

Posted by: Noacoler"

You mean the movie Flubber isn't an accurate depiction of edumacated people??? Get the flub out!

Posted by: DDAWD | February 21, 2010 2:21 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin 7%

(*hr0nk*)

being a mom is all she needs for the presidency

(*hr0nk*)

14:57... 14:58... 14:59... 15:00 ding!....

...bat

Posted by: Noacoler | February 21, 2010 2:06 AM | Report abuse

Ron Paul has a lot of "common sense" which is the phrase the mediocre and incompletely educated use to console themselves and salve their wounded pride. The kind of thinking whose whole appeal us its simplicity.

(pause)

Posted by: Noacoler | February 21, 2010 1:32 AM | Report abuse

Next to Ron Paul, McCain doesn't look goofy at all.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 21, 2010 1:24 AM | Report abuse

Non-story of the year.

Ron Paul has a following that is

1) loyal
2) fanatic
3) small and
4) never going to grow

more dumb ideas than anyone

gold standard, anyone?

HIGH comedy; the man who pronounces "job" with three syllables

Posted by: Noacoler | February 21, 2010 1:11 AM | Report abuse

I hate to tell everyone this.... but reconcilation needs 60 votes on several procedural aspects of getting the legislation through the Senate.


Lawrence O'Donnell was on MSNBC the other day - AND HE SAID THE SAME THING.

Apparently, the liberals have gotten themselves into such a delusional state that they refuse to check the facts - they are in a state of group-speak - anything outside is ignored.


Rahm Emmanuel does not know the rules of the Senate.

WE ALL KNOW THAT OBAMA DOES NOT KNOW THE RULES OF THE SENATE - BOY IS THAT A LAUGH - but who in the White House knows the rules of the Senate ? Who is giving them this advice that they have the reconciliation option available to them ???


It is like a bad rumor that got out.

This is incompetence way beyond anything I have seen... ever.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 21, 2010 12:23 AM | Report abuse

majorteddy


You are delusional - I'm not exactly sure what you are exactly saying - but you are pretty much out of your mind.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 21, 2010 12:09 AM | Report abuse

DDAWD


First I am not Zouk or whoever that is.

Most important - Rev. Wright's church is racist - they believe there is a white value system, and a black value system.


Rev. Wright said on CSPAN that he believes that the brains of black children are different from the brains of white children, so they learn differently.

You should hear the entire racist philosphy which Obama BROUGHT HIS CHILDREN INTO FOR YEARS.

Sorry but the liberals of this country still are delusional about who they put in the White House - and the media refuses to put it all out there.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 20, 2010 11:58 PM | Report abuse

broad______joe

Someday you will go back under the rock you crawled out from

Until then every reasonable person around you has to endure your presence.

Do you realize what it is like for other people to be around you???


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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 20, 2010 11:41 PM | Report abuse

Obama is a hypocrite


What did Obama do in Baltimore ? Grand-STAND


What did Obama do after the meeting with the Republicans ? Obama rushed to talk to the reporters before anyone.


Obama's attitude is the same as with the race card - Only he is allowed to play the race card.


IS ANYONE ELSE COMPLETELY SICK OF HIM YET ????

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 20, 2010 11:39 PM | Report abuse

DDAWD


I have to remind you that we are not allowed to use the word "monkey" any more because someone might complain it is racist.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 20, 2010 11:37 PM | Report abuse

I have no idea why Obama wants to highlight his FRAUD of being bipartisan - and put it on television on Thursday. The American People know what has been going on - it just appears that Obama is trying to fool the American People.

It is almost as if Obama is insisting that he fooled the people already, he will fool them again.

Is anyone else sick of this over, and over, and over again from Obama ???

Liars should learn the first time they caught, that people are watching them.

When a liar tries to lie a second time, it is even more outrageous.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 20, 2010 11:31 PM | Report abuse

According to the newsletter, the looting was a natural byproduct of government indulging the black community with “‘civil rights,’ quotas, mandated hiring preferences, set-asides for government contracts, gerrymandered voting districts, black bureaucracies, black mayors, black curricula in schools, black tv shows, black tv anchors, hate crime laws, and public humiliation for anyone who dares question the black agenda.”
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(sarcasm on) yeah, we need to stop coddling black people with things like civil rights! - it seems like society started to really go downhill after that point and look what it's lead to? (sarcasm off) seriously, I'm shocked by that exert. I always thought Ron Paul was an anti-government nut, not a anti-government racist nut.

I'm sure his supporters will explain to me why giving black people civil rights was a bad thing and how by calling the remarks of Ron Paul racist I am somehow the racist.

You know, there is a very real possiblity that if things continue on their current course we may see a repeat of 2004 - where an unpopular incumbent wins since his opponent was so very weak.

Of course, that's assuming that things stay as they are now and as many have pointed out, Clinton and Reagan had poor first year approval ratings but improved in subsequent years and W. had great approval ratings which evapourated overtime. That's also assuming that the GOP doesn't finally select a leader. I don't know if they can - there are so many different camps with only their hatred of Obama and the democrats keeping them together. Who knows if that will be enough? Objectively speaking Romeny is probably their best bet politicially but I honestly think there are many conservatives that would rather vote democrat than Romney.

Posted by: cjpotter19 | February 20, 2010 11:23 PM | Report abuse

Ron Paul won't sell out so the WaPo constabulary is against him.

The fact that only sellouts can make it through the special interest/insider gauntlet to the presidency is the core reason why American democracy is sick.

Posted by: patrick3 | February 20, 2010 11:12 PM | Report abuse

Your resident link monkey also thinks this Milbank piece on Glen Beck is interesting.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/20/AR2010022004046.html?hpid=topnews

Ok, back to the dissertation.

Posted by: DDAWD | February 20, 2010 11:07 PM | Report abuse

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2010/02/reid_democrats_will_use_reconc.html#comments

Reid: Democrats will use reconciliation to finish health-care reform

Posted by: DDAWD | February 20, 2010 11:01 PM | Report abuse


Should the GOP nominate Ron Paul? Poll

http://www.youpolls.com/default.asp


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Posted by: usadblake | February 20, 2010 10:33 PM | Report abuse

Anyone know why Palin was not there?

Posted by: chucko2 | February 20, 2010 10:26 PM | Report abuse

If it's any kind of indication, it's simply that the next Republican nominee for POTUS was not on the ballot.

Posted by: chucko2 | February 20, 2010 10:23 PM | Report abuse

How the hell did Santorum get his name on that ballot anyways? That one's out of left field.

Posted by: DDAWD | February 20, 2010 10:20 PM | Report abuse

...makes you wonder whether, in voting for Ron Paul, CPAC knew full well about Ron's rather unusual point of view, which the MSM normally does not discuss...

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 20, 2010 10:19 PM | Report abuse

"The media should have told the public EVERTYTHING ABOUT REV. WRIGHT'S CHURCH.


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Posted by: 37thand0street"

Yup. All we heard about was a few seconds of rantings. We should have heard the whole story about what the church does. It's involvement in the community, Wright's work in the military.

All we heard about was the rantings.

Hey, zook and I agree on something!

Posted by: DDAWD | February 20, 2010 10:19 PM | Report abuse

More wit and wisdom from writings bearing Ron's name:

"The newsletter inveighed against liberals who “want to keep white America from taking action against black crime and welfare,” adding, “Jury verdicts, basketball games, and even music are enough to set off black rage, it seems.”

Such views on race also inflected the newsletters’ commentary on foreign affairs. South Africa’s transition to multiracial democracy was portrayed as a “destruction of civilization” that was “the most tragic [to] ever occur on that continent, at least below the Sahara”; and, in March 1994, a month before Nelson Mandela was elected president, one item warned of an impending “South African Holocaust.”"

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 20, 2010 10:11 PM | Report abuse

The New Republic exposed what Paul is really about in a well regarded 2008 article by James Kirchick.

From "Angry White Man--The bigoted past of Ron Paul":

"Paul’s alliance with neo-Confederates helps explain the views his newsletters have long espoused on race. Take, for instance, a special issue of the Ron Paul Political Report, published in June 1992, dedicated to explaining the Los Angeles riots of that year. “Order was only restored in L.A. when it came time for the blacks to pick up their welfare checks three days after rioting began,” read one typical passage. According to the newsletter, the looting was a natural byproduct of government indulging the black community with “‘civil rights,’ quotas, mandated hiring preferences, set-asides for government contracts, gerrymandered voting districts, black bureaucracies, black mayors, black curricula in schools, black tv shows, black tv anchors, hate crime laws, and public humiliation for anyone who dares question the black agenda.” It also denounced “the media” for believing that “America’s number one need is an unlimited white checking account for underclass blacks.” To be fair, the newsletter did praise Asian merchants in Los Angeles, but only because they had the gumption to resist political correctness and fight back. Koreans were “the only people to act like real Americans,” it explained, “mainly because they have not yet been assimilated into our rotten liberal culture, which admonishes whites faced by raging blacks to lie back and think of England.”"

http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/angry-white-man?page=0,1

Ugh. We get it, Ron...

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 20, 2010 10:02 PM | Report abuse

37thand0==the difference is that Obama IS president and the others are not.But maybe because you Neanderthals are bane to admit it , you didn't understand why he was treated differently.

Posted by: majorteddy | February 20, 2010 10:02 PM | Report abuse

Really, this is the same party that is going to win the White House?

In what made-for-TV movie?

Posted by: SickofFatCats | February 20, 2010 10:02 PM | Report abuse

I'M VOTING FOR RON PAUL. YOU GUYS ARE FREE TO VOTE FOR ANYONE YOU LIKE.

Posted by: Fazsha | February 20, 2010 10:01 PM | Report abuse

@3_: We'll keep trying.

"The way you walked was thorny, through no fault of your own. But as the rain enters the soil, the river enters the sea, so tears run to a predestined end. Your suffering is over. Now you will find peace for eternity."

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 20, 2010 9:48 PM | Report abuse

Ron Paul? Sarah Palin? Mittens Romney? "Bridges" Pawlenty? Dick Cheney? Newt Gingrich? Mike Pence? Bob Barr? Michelle Bachmann?

Send in the clowns? Don't bother, they're here....

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | February 20, 2010 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Why not report that the crowd booed when the results were announced with Paul in the lead?

Posted by: hitpoints | February 20, 2010 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Everyone who would be President is loved, hated, mocked, violently attacked, laughed at, vilified, investigated, ignored, conspired against, subjected to extremes of idealization and demonization...this is American politics...there is nothing new going on.

Posted by: shrink2 | February 20, 2010 9:21 PM | Report abuse


This Obama has got to be kidding - telling the Republicans not to grand-stand


What does Obama do all the time.

Obama is raising his voice, acting like a child - and basically showing a complete lack of leadership skills.

It is a wonder that he was able to skate by on his race his own life.

Obama proves that affirmative action should be ended immediately.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 20, 2010 9:18 PM | Report abuse

sailingaway1


Don't listen to broadwayjoe - he is complete creep who doesn't really know what he is talking about.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 20, 2010 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Obama is a hypocrite


What did Obama do in Baltimore ? Grand-STAND


What did Obama do after the meeting with the Republicans ? Obama rushed to talk to the reporters before anyone.

Obama's attitude is the same as with the race card - Only he is allowed to play the race card.

IS ANYONE ELSE COMPLETELY SICK OF HIM YET ????


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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 20, 2010 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Ron Paul believes in bringing back our pass with the seperation of races and as he suggested in his article minorities should have an owner. Woman should obey their husbands and have no rights. The list of wackos needs to be scraped and new Republican Leaders who actually follow the values of the Party. Now Sarah and Mitt are only in the game for the money. Look for Cosmo Scotty Brown to start pushing his name out for profit only. Some are looking for pure Evil Dick Cheney to lead the way into hell.

Posted by: qqbDEyZW | February 20, 2010 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Ron Paul is gaining steam, would win a primary with Romney and Palin. Last time around he was mocked and kept out of debates, and run down by Tim Russert and other soulless media front men.
Now he has much more support and name recognition, and the election is still almost three years away. The election will have to be fixed to keep him from beating this lame field. Sorry wash post, Ron Paul's the front runner

Posted by: sketchy2 | February 20, 2010 8:58 PM | Report abuse

broad____joe

Are you trying to imply that Obama didn't get a pass from the media???

Give us a break, you hypocrite.

The media should have told the public EVERTYTHING ABOUT REV. WRIGHT'S CHURCH.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 20, 2010 8:50 PM | Report abuse

The MSM gave Ron Paul a pass the last time on the extremist content of the RON PAUL Newsletter because he wasn't competitive. But that's not going to happen if he gets back in for 2012.

David Gergen's take:

"These stories may be very old in Ron Paul's life, but they're very new to the American public and they deserve to be totally ventilated," said David Gergen, a CNN senior political analyst. "I must say I don't think there's an excuse in politics to have something go out under your name and say, 'Oh by the way, I didn't write that.'"

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/10/paul.newsletters/

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 20, 2010 8:46 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe -- because Ron Paul has EVER used language like that in his life? Everyone knows he didn't write those, and if he DIDN'T have a 30 year record in the public eye, people might have doubts. Since he DOES, and has no views even faintly like those, you seem to be grasping at straws.

Posted by: sailingaway1 | February 20, 2010 8:26 PM | Report abuse

When I refer to RP's not getting 31% of the vote in 2008, I meant at the CPAC poll, which he was in that year, as well. And last year he came in third, but only a handful of votes ahead of Sarah Palin.

If Romney had won, people would be saying 'it isn't scientific but shows he has the proper organization in place to win a campaign.'. Why no such respect for Ron Paul? Do you just not personally like his views?

Posted by: sailingaway1 | February 20, 2010 8:22 PM | Report abuse

" Paul's supporters are loyal and loud but not, ultimately, that large a group as proven by the fact that he did not win a single primary or caucus in 2008. "

In 2008, Ron Paul didn't get anything like 31% of the vote, either. Clearly, something, somewhere, has changed.

Posted by: sailingaway1 | February 20, 2010 8:20 PM | Report abuse

Bruno seemed to like Ron Paul, too.

Posted by: Client-9 | February 20, 2010 8:18 PM | Report abuse

So long as the Republicans remain ridiculous, the Democrats are their own worst enemy.

Posted by: shrink2 | February 20, 2010 8:18 PM | Report abuse

the tea party wouldn't go for mitt romney so he's not a contender

Posted by: blist14ant | February 20, 2010 8:15 PM | Report abuse

the tea party wouldn't go for mitt romney so he's not a contender

Posted by: blist14ant | February 20, 2010 8:15 PM | Report abuse

the tea party wouldn't go for mitt romney so he's not a contender

Posted by: blist14ant | February 20, 2010 8:15 PM | Report abuse

the tea party wouldn't go for mitt romney so he's not a contender

Posted by: blist14ant | February 20, 2010 8:15 PM | Report abuse

the tea party wouldn't go for mitt romney so he's not a contender

Posted by: blist14ant | February 20, 2010 8:15 PM | Report abuse

A very promising sign. Is Ron Paul electable. Of course not. But then, neither is Palin, Romney or the other characters. At least Ron Paul seems to get the fiscal thing from a conservative POV. None of the others do. He knows the world's policeman thing is a total disaster. The only GOP leader who grasps that obvious fact. And there is none of that social conservative, religious right crap that has totally destroyed the GOP. Go Ron! Maybe others will pick up your message and this country will have a future.

Posted by: Steve851 | February 20, 2010 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Alas, Ron Paul would not be able to pass the conservative movement's own purity test.

Next candidate?

Posted by: labman57 | February 20, 2010 8:13 PM | Report abuse

chris ask the post to poll ron paul

Posted by: blist14ant | February 20, 2010 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Cosign what MM said. George Will is terrified Palin will run and win the primary...and then lose 44 states to BHO.
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BTW, Beck is quite an entertainer. I caught some of his keynote speech at CPAC tonight and he was playing them like a violin. He even worked in Tiger Woods' apology in a positive way.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 20, 2010 8:12 PM | Report abuse

Smilin'...
Where's that boy, eh, Marco's poll numbers?

Posted by: Evenfoolsarerightsometimes | February 20, 2010 6:08 PM
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Unlikely that Rubio got the full support of CPAC's militia, Minutemen, and supremacist delegations...Oh well.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 20, 2010 8:06 PM | Report abuse

:-D The only candidate even less electable than Sarah Palin.

The Right is going to jam itself up with a short list of competitive but unelectable candidates. TP will have their favorite outsider, CPAC will have their small government/old-time religion candidate, and the GOP party powers will be desperately trying to convince them both to get behind Romney.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | February 20, 2010 7:59 PM | Report abuse

"Be careful not to read too much -- or much at all -- into these results. Paul's supporters are loyal and loud but not, ultimately, that large a group as proven by the fact that he did not win a single primary or caucus in 2008."

Would this have been the Fix analysis had Pawlenty won the straw poll?
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Don't know much about Paul so I looked up articles about his "Newsletters."
Here's an excerpt from a CNN piece:

"The controversial newsletters include rants against the Israeli lobby, gays, AIDS victims and Martin Luther King Jr. -- described as a "pro-Communist philanderer." One newsletter, from June 1992, right after the LA riots, says "order was only restored in L.A. when it came time for the blacks to pick up their welfare checks."

Another says, "The criminals who terrorize our cities -- in riots and on every non-riot day -- are not exclusively young black males, but they largely are. As children, they are trained to hate whites, to believe that white oppression is responsible for all black ills, to 'fight the power,' to steal and loot as much money from the white enemy as possible."

In some excerpts, the reader may be led to believe the words are indeed from Paul, a resident of Lake Jackson, Texas. In the "Ron Paul Political Report" from October 1992, the writer describes carjacking as the "hip-hop thing to do among the urban youth who play unsuspecting whites like pianos."

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/10/paul.newsletters/

Tell us what you really think, Ron...

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 20, 2010 7:58 PM | Report abuse

"Ron Paul isn't a conservative and true conservatives (which apparently CPAC doesn't represent) know this. And please, the guy in Austin in a plane--he just hated the IRS; read his "rant"--he wasn't a Tea party person; he hated Bush, and he wanted freedom from taxes...pretty much like a libertarian or someone who has suffered under IRS rules for too long. Posted by: mil1"

So all those signs that say Taxed Enough Already don't exist and weren't ever there?

The T-Party, the Ron Paul Party, the Texas tax activist all share many similarities: THEY aren't at fault, THEY don't like Taxes or the IRS, THEY don't like Washington, and they see nothing wrong with talking about "Watering the Tree of Liberty With The Bolood of Tyrants."

Paul being as much an anti establismentist, (an anti establishmentarian is against the Church of England getting free taxes from non-Anglicans) as a Libertarian, he won't be able to put together a functioning campaign team, any more than he did last year, and so will be on the list of the many dwarfs whyo populate the less than 20% ers in the primaries, taking votes from all the potential Palinite rivals. His contribution will be to help Sarah get nominated while never getting as many as a quarter of the votes in any Primary or Caucus. For this he will be ignored by the palinites in the campaign and blamed when she gets fewer votes and carries fewer states than Goldwater.

Having been rejected by the Sarah Omniscient Party, he will run as a libertarian and get fewer votes than Lyndon Larouche ever got as Libertarian party nominee.

This will all go right by the CPAC people who will be convinced that they MUST actually have won the election, and therefore ACORN must have registered 50 Million illegal voters, all of whom somehow voted.

Common Sense has been conspicuously absent in the far right since Nixon. I doubt it will stage a comeback there anytime soon.

Posted by: ceflynline | February 20, 2010 7:55 PM | Report abuse

I love these guys who want to do away with government. I want them all flying an airline that has no government mandated safety regulations, taking Non-FDA approved drugs, etc.

Simple solutions for the simple minded.

Posted by: Dave375 | February 20, 2010 7:45 PM | Report abuse

"our present filibuster has to go: otherwise the real nuclear approach: a Constitutional Convention"
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I'd be all over that in two seconds.

Jefferson thought we'd be calling new Conventions every 20-30 years.

Maybe it's time.

http://www.WasillaTeleprompter.com

Posted by: michaelniland

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SECEDE. Get the red states out of here. You red folks [not native Americans] can just secede. The Founder Fathers didn't start a revolution. They declared independence. The Brits didn't accept it, hence the revolution.

You might just find that this time around the Blue States would be more than happy to let you have your freedom.

I've never been able to find anyone that could explain the need to "preserve the Union". Seriously. I think the South made a monumental tactical error at Ft. Sumter. The country is a pact between the States. The Founding Fathers intended it to be decided by the legislatures not the people. Get your State legislators together and you should have no problem at all having The United States Under Jesus Christ well before the 2012 elections.

P.S. There isn't enough gold around to go back to the gold standard without the price of gold skyrocketing to unimaginable levels. And if that happens you're going to see inflation like they had/have in Zimbabwe.

Posted by: James10 | February 20, 2010 7:39 PM | Report abuse

vicky,

I think the reason most people can't find a way to support Ron Paul is the inability of most of America to possess an independent thought. They just do what the Republican or Democratic parties tell them to do. This country needs a leader that breaks away from this moronic, pathetic, cult-like two party system we currently possess. Every four years we get two choices, a scum from the left and a scum from the right. These two tell their supporting knuckleheads what they want to hear so they can continue to fleece them for cash in the name of "campaigning". Then for four years, it's "Your guy is terrible" from the losing party, and "He's just fixing what your guy did" from the other party.

I firmly believe this saying stems from politics:

The definition of insanity is repeating the same actions and expecting different results.

And therein lies our politics. Few indepenent thinkers, just sheep led to the slaughter.

Posted by: RobInVaBeach | February 20, 2010 7:34 PM | Report abuse

a lot of people in the tea party are paul supporters

Posted by: blist14ant | February 20, 2010 7:33 PM | Report abuse


Okay.... Ron Paul and Sarah Palin in 2012....BBBAWWAAAHHHH!!!!!!


Posted by: demtse | February 20, 2010 7:31 PM | Report abuse

that was last year when people didn't know him, plus ron paul came in second in the presidential in pennsylvania primary with over200,000 votes

Posted by: blist14ant | February 20, 2010 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Okay.... Ron Paul and Sarah Palin in 2012....BBBAWWAAAHHHH!!!!!!


Posted by: demtse | February 20, 2010 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Only 2400 out of 10,000 people present at CPAC even voted in this thing. I'm sure that the Paulites present made much more of an effort to cast a vote than, say, the Palinites. It's meaningless.

The Republicans are doomed if they run one of the old familiar faces. They need to bring someone fresh out of the pack if they are to have any chance of overcoming the President in 2012. But who do they have? The lights are on at the GOP but they're too busy fighting amongst themselves to hear opportunity knocking.

Posted by: WonderfulWorld | February 20, 2010 7:25 PM | Report abuse

They did not reach all the time but were not as focused on "purity" or dogma. In life you need to have flexability. CPAC does not.

Posted by: Brainny | February 20, 2010 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Ron Paul was the one that Fox News wouldn't invite to the GOP debate.

Someone has got to ask him about the possibility of a Paul/Palin ticket in 2012. I'll be the look on his face would be priceless.

To dudh ... so you think Ron Paul is the libertarian that inspires the tea party ....

Tea Party 'Revolution' Targets Ron Paul in GOP Primary

By Judson Berger

- FOXNews.com

The Texas congressman who rattled the GOP establishment with his libertarian-leaning outsider run for president has suddenly found himself the target of the anti-incumbent Tea Party movement some credit him with helping inspire. ....

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/02/18/tea-party-movement-betrays-ron-paul-gop-challengers/

Posted by: James10 | February 20, 2010 7:24 PM | Report abuse

While I am a liberal I still repect Ron Paul because he at least has ideas and is not a glory hound or lair like half of these hacks at CPAC. Hacks like Glen Beck. Instead of purity of ideas lets seek to do what is best for the whole country, both sides used to reach across to the other side.

Posted by: Brainny | February 20, 2010 7:20 PM | Report abuse

How can anyone (Chris) say, at this point that this vote will "have little affect on the upcoming presidential contest”.
The ONLY chance the republicans have of winning the White house is by nominating a true conservative that has energetic and enthusiastic support from the Independents and the youth and that is Ron Paul. Ron Paul can win as an independent candidate because the republican party is rotting from within by allowing right wing-dogmatic-bigots that are sold out to special interests and the military industrial complex who, with collusion of the media moguls, will not allow a true pragmatic, honest, constitutionalist like Ron Paul to be their candidate. Only someone like Ron Paul can save America, her liberty, statue in the world and her economy. Ron Paul 2012!

Posted by: costaricanet | February 20, 2010 7:18 PM | Report abuse

CPAC's straw poll is meaningless - virtually a waste of time. And, Ron Paul is to old to run a viable presidential campaign, even if the straw poll did mean something.

Posted by: mike85 | February 20, 2010 7:18 PM | Report abuse

Everyone here seems to love to bash Ron Paul for being to old or calling him some kind of disrespectful name. Some here have stated that he is not a real conservative?? I find that interesting because in all actuality he is the most conservative member in all of Congress. There are also a lot of sheep writing in this post who have not done their due diligence as American citizens to separate real honest candidates like Ron Paul from phonies like Palin and Roomney. Wouldn't all of you sheep feel pretty stupid if you saw speeches given by Ron Paul 20 years ago stating the problems that would be faced by this country in the future. Few independent thinkers listened then and its the same this time around. WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!

Posted by: vickyv85 | February 20, 2010 7:08 PM | Report abuse

So, we are going back on the gold standard?
Probably Pawlenty is the biggest loser in the vote, as he appeared there and made a rousing speech.

Posted by: rkerg | February 20, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse

Ron Paul?

Wasn't he the goober that Fox News thought too insignificant to invite to their 2008 GOP presidential candidate debate -- even though Fox News invited every other goober candidate?

By November, 2012, Paul will be 75 years old. Just the kind of geriatric to lead the GOP (Goobers Only Party) into the 19th century.

Posted by: WhatHeSaid | February 20, 2010 6:50 PM | Report abuse

"our present filibuster has to go: otherwise the real nuclear approach: a Constitutional Convention"
---
I'd be all over that in two seconds.

Jefferson thought we'd be calling new Conventions every 20-30 years.

Maybe it's time.

http://www.WasillaTeleprompter.com

Posted by: michaelniland | February 20, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Many of those who voted thought they were endorsing famous drag queen RuPaul. Confusion among conservative voters was not unexpected and if RuPaul agrees to run, plans for a runoff are already in place.

Posted by: JovialReaper | February 20, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

THE RON PAUL THING ABSOLUTELY BEFUDDLES ME--
AND HAVE ALWAYS CONSIDERED MYSELF A MAJOR
VOICE IN MATTERS POLITICAL!!
If it isn't an actual joke, it must mean that there is some truth to the fact that the
angry right includes a lot of people on the
angry left (like myself) who are just tired
of the pallid rhetoric that covers Congress--
the rhetoric that denies a rhinocerous in the
living room: namely the Fillibuster. It was never meant for the purposes in use now,
and if we are to get a workable government
as the "famous founders" founded, our present fillibuster has to go: otherwise the real nuclear approach: a Constitutional Convention to undo the Supreme Court and to give us a new shot at being a republic with
only delcared wars available. James McC

Posted by: VERONA1 | February 20, 2010 6:43 PM | Report abuse

Ron Paul isn't a conservative and true conservatives (which apparently CPAC doesn't represent) know this.

And please, the guy in Austin in a plane--he just hated the IRS; read his "rant"--he wasn't a Tea party person; he hated Bush, and he wanted freedom from taxes...pretty much like a libertarian or someone who has suffered under IRS rules for too long.

Posted by: mil1 | February 20, 2010 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Ron, Mitt... I'm sorry. You're going to have to step aside for a girl who can really win.

Ladies first.

http://www.WasillaTeleprompter.com

Posted by: michaelniland | February 20, 2010 6:40 PM | Report abuse

tarded2much,
stop using your real name, teabag blog rat. You're embarassing your mother.

Posted by: dudh | February 20, 2010 6:34 PM | Report abuse

How 'bout that tea bagger terroris in Austin? Ain't, I mean wasn't, he a big fan of Rush and Glen?

Posted by: fudador | February 20, 2010 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Hey dudh, there are two types of people in the world: teabaggers and teabaggees.

We know which one you are.

Posted by: tarded2much | February 20, 2010 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Yet another wacko wins the conservative republikan vote.

Posted by: fudador | February 20, 2010 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Great news! He's the "libertarian" who inspires the tea "party" and all the teabaggers who show up a blog attack rats on the internet. He's also considered a hopeless fringe politician by normal Americans and will drag everything he touches down with him. H's got my vote!

Posted by: dudh | February 20, 2010 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Ron Paul is Right. Always has been correct. A level-headed gentleman.

Posted by: Mags5 | February 20, 2010 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Smilin'...
Where's that boy, eh, Marco's poll numbers?

Posted by: Evenfoolsarerightsometimes | February 20, 2010 6:08 PM | Report abuse

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