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Daily Fix Poll: How many women will win governors races this year?

The victories of Rep. Mary Fallin (R) and Lt. Gov. Jari Askins (D) in yesterday's Oklahoma gubernatorial primaries makes the Sooner State the latest state on track to elect a female governor this fall.

Along with Oklahoma, New Mexico is ensured to elect a female governor too -- Doña Ana County District Attorney Susana Martinez (R) is facing off against Lt. Gov. Diane Denish (D).

Women have also been nominated in gubernatorial races in four other states: state Rep. Nikki Haley (R) in South Carolina, former eBay CEO Meg Whitman (R) in California, state Chief Financial Officer Alex Sink (D) in Florida and state Senate President Libby Mitchell (D) in Maine.

Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer's (R) primary opposition has all but disappeared, while state House Speaker Margaret Anderson Kelliher (D), state Auditor Rita Meyer (R) and former Secretary of State Karen Handel (R) are competing for their parties' nominations in Minnesota, Wyoming and Georgia, respectively. Women are also competing in a number of other less competitive gubernatorial races around the country.

All of which brings us to today's Daily Fix Poll: How many women are likely to win in this year's gubernatorial races? Make your pick below; we'll post the answers tomorrow.

(Wondering who won yesterday's Fix poll? Fixistas deemed Rep. Kendrick Meek's ad more effective than real estate developer
Jeff Greene's
in the Florida Senate Democratic primary.)

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I referred to ALL the candidates by their full name, for educational purposes nothing nefarious, so that was not worse.

Posted by: JakeD2 | July 29, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

BWJ, Manan Travedi says this is a decision each Indian-American makes for themselves. Clearly he has made his choice.

I respect Neela's opinion, it just isn't mine.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | July 29, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

As I have mentioned before.. add Shelley Moore Capito (I once had a crush on her and dreamed of taking her to see The Monkees)..

West Virginia elected her father, Arch Moore, three times. I think that in order to put the current Governor, Joe Manchin, into Byrd's senate seat..early.. that the fix is in to run an early gubernatorial election - a good trade-off for the GOP, as Manchin is an eventual shoe-in. Aaron (WP) did a summation on this situation .. a few days back.

Posted by: newbeeboy | July 29, 2010 9:39 AM | Report abuse

Cosign, dd's post on "Nikki."

Posted by: broadwayjoe | July 29, 2010 9:09 AM | Report abuse

"...We each need to make the effort to look past this side-show stuff that holds us back as people. Hate her for her politics, not the Nikki.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | July 29, 2010 7:35 AM"
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What totally undercuts your argument is that few dispute that had "Nikki" run under her real name, the "Tea Party" base in SC would not have supported her and she would have lost the primary. So obviously "Nikki" thought it was VERY important. When asked by the Indian media about her name game, her answer was that her real name wouldn't fit on a yard sign.

You are right: it's not for us to tell "Nikki" what to do, but Neela, who is a former NY Times writer, and other Indian Americans have spoken out on the name-game issue. I respect their judgment; you should, too.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | July 29, 2010 9:03 AM | Report abuse

BWJ, I enjoyed the article on Slate you linked to. Neela writes a thoughtful article about the "desi-spoura" in America. It reminds me of what people used to say (a couple hundred years ago) about Scotland, that her greatest export was her native sons.

Manan Travedi is running for congress in my own PA 6 CD. I thought he was Italian the first few times I read his name, but I knew he was Indian-American by the time I voted for him. I figure everyone in SC knows that Haley is Indian-American by now. Certainly any SC citizen savvy enough to go to her web site is aware of her heritage.

Ami Bera, Raj Goyle, Kamala Harris, Ravi Sangisetty, Reshma Saujani and Surya Yalamanchili are all running for office this year. Saying they are christian/hindu/sikh/etc or using a "house name" or a spouse name when they run is a choice they each get to use. It's as personal a choice as Obama identifying himself as "black" when one of his parents was white. It is their choice to make, and it may indicate something about their identity and their thinking. But it isn't your place to say what that thinking is because you CANNOT know what it is.

We each need to make the effort to look past this side-show stuff that holds us back as people. Hate her for her politics, not the Nikki.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | July 29, 2010 7:35 AM | Report abuse

I'm a little late to this, but whatever. There's a difference between what jaked did and what BWJ is doing.

jaked - he's a black guy with a funny name that he shares with the guy who caused 9/11. Be scared of him because of his name.

BWJ - your favorite candidate is actually an Indian. Most of you don't know this and many of you will probably like her less upon finding this out.

jaked is worse. Not even close. To tie Obama to Saddam Hussein is far worse than "outing" Haley for her Indian heritage. I'm not saying I'm ok with what BWJ does, but we don't have to be so black and white about it. We have jaked and we have Mother Teresa, but there's a hell of a lot of tiers in between.

As for the name thing. Let's be honest. All politicians lie. They have to. Part of politics is selling your soul. The only difference is how much soul people are willing to sell. The tradeoff is that you commit a minor sin of a small lie so that you can get into office and do good things. For them, it's a better alternative than being 100% blunt about everything at a cost of being shut out of the policy discussion.

Bobby Jindal and Nikki Haley whitewashing their Indian heritages is a part of this. And I can't complain. It's such a small part of who they are. I don't know much about Haley's positions, but I know a hell of a lot about Jindal's. And his name isn't even close to the top of the list of complaints I have about him. Perhaps Haley and Jindal should fight against racism within their own party by being more open about their Indian heritages, but I think that would just be an act of martyrdom and I think it's a bit unreasonable to ask that of anyone.

Posted by: DDAWD | July 29, 2010 2:47 AM | Report abuse

Obama is tanking the Afghan War - purposely broadcasting to our enemies that he intends to pull our troops out - which affects how both sides fight the war.

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Christ but you're one stupid son of a bịtch

Posted by: Noacoler | July 29, 2010 1:26 AM | Report abuse

Shrink


12Bars is not Irish ?


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Posted by: YouCanPostThis | July 28, 2010 11:24 PM | Report abuse

12BarCrawl


I gave my reasons in the earlier post


Obama has been easy on terrorists - giving them lawyers - and trying to pretend that terrorism can be fought with criminal laws, rather than as a war.

I further went on to discuss Obama'a approach to the Afghan War - Obama committed during the campaign to fight the Afghan War, and make it the centerpiece of the anti-terror campaign.


Obama is tanking the Afghan War - purposely broadcasting to our enemies that he intends to pull our troops out - which affects how both sides fight the war.

YEA - it is a question of LOYALTY


It is a question of whether Obama has sympathy for Muslimlands - which affects the policymaking.

It is a valid question.

And why do you ask things when the reasoning is in the prior postings ?

Yes, Obama should resign immediately.

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Posted by: YouCanPostThis | July 28, 2010 11:18 PM | Report abuse

Though I wish I had learned more, I learned something from this discussion I didn't already know, I had no idea 12BarBlues was an Irish name, no clue.

Posted by: shrink2 | July 28, 2010 11:07 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe


It is all about you and how you feel about women and members of other races


Go ahead, talk about it.

.

Posted by: YouCanPostThis | July 28, 2010 11:06 PM | Report abuse

37, I just asked whether Palin had made any policy statement since she communicated her personal "policy" years ago to internationally known trombonist Gregory Charles Royal.

Now if you want to discuss Mrs. Palin "policy," feel free,

Posted by: broadwayjoe | July 28, 2010 10:25 PM | Report abuse

I'm sure Mark Williams, Billy Roper, Ryan Murdough are all thrilled to have Nikki/Nimrata and Tim in the Tea Party. Have "Nikki" and Tim met Clayton Bigsby yet?

Posted by: broadwayjoe | July 28, 2010 10:17 PM | Report abuse

It is a question of LOYALTY - DEEP DOWN HOW DOES OBAMA FEEL ABOUT THE MUSLIM LANDS AND HOW DOES IT AFFECT POLICYMAKING ?

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Oh, I see. Barack Hussein Obama's birth name makes you question his loyalty. Are you a fool or do you think we all are?

If that's the case, then Nikki Haley and Bobby Jindal's birth names must make you question their LOYALTY, too.

My name is Irish. How about my loyalty? How about McCain? What kind of name is that? And Murkowski and Cuomo and Cantor...have some questions about their LOYALTY?

If you're going to make up a justification, you better think a little deeper than that.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | July 28, 2010 10:15 PM | Report abuse

Gosh mark you're right. I guess that one black Republican means more than all those s-word signs, all those nose-bone pictures of Obama, all that shouting and spitting.

Come to think of it, I guess I imagined them all, and the Tea Party really is about limited government and fiscal responsibility after all.

And fish aren't aquatic either. There's one that fins its way out of the water.

Posted by: Noacoler | July 28, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

JRM2 and broadwayjoe


People used the name HUSSEIN to refer to Obama during the campaign in order to call into question his LOYALTY to this country during WARTIME.

Clearly, if Obama had emerged in the 80s or 90s, this really would not be much of an issue - so it really is not an ethnic thing.

It is a question of LOYALTY - DEEP DOWN HOW DOES OBAMA FEEL ABOUT THE MUSLIM LANDS AND HOW DOES IT AFFECT POLICYMAKING ?


Yes - the question was VALID in 2008 - and it is VALID TODAY.

Right now, Obama has been SOFT on terror for a year and a half. Terrorists have been given lawyers while other parts of terrorists plots may not have been played out.

In addition, it appears that Obama has been TANKING the Afghan War - purposely trying to leak information to make Karzai look bad and make the war appear unwinnable.

This is sort of like the VIETNAMIZATION OF THE AFGHAN WAR - the conscious efforts on the part of the democrats to make Afghanistan look like Vietnam.


The precise criticisms of the Vietnamese government are now RE-EMERGING to criticize Karzai -


THEY AREN'T EVEN COMING UP WITH NEW MATERIAL - they are just copying stuff from the Vietname era.

Obama is TANKING THE WAR - and it is sad.


Everyone hurt Obama COMMIT to the nation that he would fight the Afghan war - and not withdraw - and here we have Obama - withdrawing - broadcasting the withdraw to the ENEMY.


Obama is purposely losing the war.


Whose side is Obama on ?

Solid questions - fair discussion - the bringing up of the name HUSSEIN was correct and fair.

It needs to be talked about before Obama does more damage to our national security.


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Posted by: YouCanPostThis | July 28, 2010 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Chris F -


Son of one-time segregationist loses to black Republican
By Shane D'Aprile - 06/22/10 08:58 PM ET

Republican Tim Scott earned a landslide victory against challenger Paul Thurmond in the Republican runoff in South Carolina's 1st Congressional District.
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Scott and Haley are integrating the TEA movement, correct? If TEA is "racist", then it follows either that Scott and Haley are "racist", or they are heroically desegregating the heart of old Dixie in the face of the white sheets.

I am in agreement with BB. But you knew that already.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | July 28, 2010 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Remember when we believed we were about to be rid of this drool case?

How naive we were

Posted by: Noacoler | July 28, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse

Fairlington


There is little point in trying to have broadwayjoe show any respect for anyone.

However, I have to point out that broadwayjoe keeps on bringing up the story about Sarah Palin's refusal to have interracial sex.


Nikki Haley has been accused of having interracial sex.


My suspicion is that broadwayjoe is EXTREMELY SENSITIVE to this subject - and that is really his problem with these women.


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Posted by: YouCanPostThis | July 28, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse

JRM2

We all know that Obama and his people objected everytime someone mentioned his middle name during the campaign


So what is YOUR problem ? It happened -

AND Obama was being super-sensitive - and it wasn't a racial thing.

Then Obama goes off and bows to the King of Saudi Arabia

Confirms everyone's suspicions

The truth is Obama is unAmerican - and people don't like it.

If a person wants to be President - a certain respect for tradition is required, a certain respect for the Bill of Rights is required.

AND a certain desire to DO the job is required - that means making the economy a "big thing" on your agenda -


AND it requires ENFORCING FEDERAL LAWS whether Obama agrees with them or not.


Because THAT is the job.

Obama is a failure - it is ugly

Americans do NOT want to see their President act this way.

Show some respect.


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Posted by: YouCanPostThis | July 28, 2010 9:48 PM | Report abuse

Fairlington, my guess is we are talking past each other but, as well, operating off of different facts.

While you believe (based on your information -- and I respect that) NK is not hiding her background (race/ethnicity/religion) from "ultraconservative" voters in SC, you must understand that others disagree and think that she is.

You believe (based on your information) most SC voters, including the teabaggers, are aware of her background, but, again some people don't believe so. Outside the urban centers, many working folks don't pay attention to political races until right before election day and sometimes not even then. After all Alvin Greene won a primary.

Again, please give Neela's article, "Nikki, aka Nimrata," on this issue a read. It may change your mind, vel non. :-)

http://www.doublex.com/blog/xxfactor/2010/6/10

All the best.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | July 28, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

OK BB if we're done with NameGate, what's your take on Haley / Randhawa running as a teabagger, a racist organization, while being herself a member of a racial minority group?

Please don't dodge into the "only someof the baggers are bigots" dodge, I think we've already covered that at least as thoroughly as BWJ has covered Haley's real name.

Posted by: Noacoler | July 28, 2010 9:28 PM | Report abuse

This wasn't meant as a hate blast, but yes I was angry. Anger can be a good thing. It fueled the Democratic takeover of Congress. And unless Democrats get angry again, they'll blow it. So, yes. It's time to be angry.

I found Joe's insistance on using Piyush for Bobby Jindal irritating. As though anyone couldn't tell that he's of Indian extraction. It wasn't sufficient to refer to Nikki by her given name, but she also had to be stripped of her married name as well. I made a point of going after Jake for his emphasis on Barack Obama's middle name. Side bar. When he was younger, he went by Barry. Was that wrong of him?

I should also be clear that it's not specific to Indian Americans. The chair of the Arlington County (VA) board is Latino. My wife occasionally works the board meetings in case anyone needs an interpreter. There is a local crank who insists on having his question interpreted into Spanish so everyone understands him. It's an unsubtle dig at the chair, who is completely fluent in English. The board incidentally blows off said crank. So, I put Joe's insistence right there with the crank.

Nikki Haley isn't hiding her ethnicity. Go to her web site and click on Meet Nikki. She states that she's the daughter of Indian immigrants. Her kids are named Rena and Nalin. Nalin is a Hindi name. Rena has less specific origins.

So, Joe. I made the conscious choice to call you out on this. Not because I have Indian friends, but perhaps having many friends and colleagues in ethnic communities has sensitized me to these issues. This isn't left/right, but right/wrong to me.

Incidentally, feel free to "shorten this up". I always love those posts.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | July 28, 2010 9:15 PM | Report abuse

noa: appreciate your take on Mr. F. but ...

It's hard to believe Fairlington thinks he's channeling his claimed Indian-American friends. I think Neela Banerjee's view of "Haley" and her act is probably more representative of the larger Indian-American community than Mr. F's.

BTW, regarding "Haley"'s party affiliation, the problem isn't that she is a GOPer (who cares?), it's that she has declared herself a Tea Partier (an extremist subset of the GOP) and thus supports their agenda of hate and intolerance, particularly against minorities and immigrants...including Indian Americans.

But, again, I'll let it go. :)

Posted by: broadwayjoe | July 28, 2010 9:03 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, BWJ. Honestly I don't think BB's outrage is feigned but he is acting uncharacteristically thick-witted here. My take is that he's clocked into defending his Indian friends' against a perceived attack and doesn't quite know how to back away, there being no actual attack here.

I've done it too. Few days ago read about some Christian bimbo in a counseling major of some kind suing her school because she was told to back down from "believing" that being gay is a "lifestyle choice," and it hit me on several fronts at once .. the homophobia (hate that word, BTW) and the sanction of "belief," and I went ballistic and posted a hope that someone throws acid in her face. OK, maybe I meant acetic (I didn't) but a few people were major shocked. She had long blond hair and a cocker spaniel head-cocked 'tude and it hit me all at once.

BTW if anyone cares .. know how Indian accents bother just about everyone American? People who don't react to any other accents will scream at their bank for inflicting Apu on them> Well I know why.

They put the accents on the wrong syllables. No idea why, but that's what's so grating.

Posted by: Noacoler | July 28, 2010 8:35 PM | Report abuse

noa, agreed. I'll let it be.

The "Nim" mention was just intended as a tweak and I wasn't expecting (and definitely not inviting) the bizarre emotional hate blast from Fairlington. There's something going on there with Mr. F., but we're not yet sure what.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | July 28, 2010 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Reading Fairlington's posts, I wonder whether Fairlington would laugh at AA comedian Dave Chappelle's famous skit about the black Klansman. Would he even get the joke? Oh well.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | July 28, 2010 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Ok, I do love a mystery...this is important to me too (per below) so I hope you don't mind I've come in on it uninvited. I don't want to fight or anything, but this is a controlling issue beyond America, beyond politics.

Posted by: shrink2 | July 28, 2010 8:09 PM | Report abuse

Nikki Haley is doing nothing different from Obama.
YouCanPostThis
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Nikki Haley has changed her name to anglicize herself, Barack Obama kept his given name.

You are so full of it 37th, your arguments are so weak it really is stunning.

Posted by: JRM2 | July 28, 2010 8:08 PM | Report abuse

I worked in the Deep South with a bunch of 'necks one Summer and had to "change" my name.
shrink2
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Yeah i bet they did crack up calling for "SHRINK2!"
;-)

Posted by: JRM2 | July 28, 2010 8:03 PM | Report abuse

FB is cleaning up branches and I am done with work in ten minutes, but he knows it is not about Joe hating Indians or bigotry in general.

I think FB is upset about this because he thinks Democrats think they own minority votes. He is right about that.

But I don't think he gets what you and Joe are saying.

Posted by: shrink2 | July 28, 2010 7:52 PM
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Have to disagree this time, S2. :)

Fairlington seems to have some agenda, IMO, but it's unclear what it is. He knows full well what Neela Banerjee and I are talking about. Oh well.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | July 28, 2010 8:01 PM | Report abuse

Fairlington, you appear to have an agenda here. Nevertheless, I posted an excerpt from a prominent INDIAN-AMERICAN journalist who used to write for the NY Times that makes the point as clearly as anyone can. So you aren't speaking for Indian Americans, pal. I respect Neela Banerjee's Indian-American perspective as reflected in her thoughtful article. It is a pity you don't.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | July 28, 2010 7:53 PM | Report abuse

FB is cleaning up branches and I am done with work in ten minutes, but he knows it is not about Joe hating Indians or bigotry in general.

I think FB is upset about this because he thinks Democrats think they own minority votes. He is right about that.

But I don't think he gets what you and Joe are saying.

Posted by: shrink2 | July 28, 2010 7:52 PM | Report abuse

BB, you're almost there. And you're right. Any racial minority (or gay, or non-Christian, or anyone else who they don't use to stir up hate) deserves to be excoriated.

Go search through the archives under my old emails and you'll find me excoriating gay Republicans, too. Because it isn't symmetrical. Republicans are using openly racist and homophobic appeals and when people they hate run as Republicans, they're selling out.

And in case you think I'm solidly behind Joe on this, I'm not, I think he's beaten it to death and it's getting old. But I don't think he hates Indians.

Posted by: Noacoler | July 28, 2010 7:44 PM | Report abuse

"In Joe's world, minorities are only permitted to run for office as Democrats."

How can you know this?

Posted by: shrink2 | July 28, 2010 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Some Indian Americans had the same problem with Piyush Jindal that they now have with "Mrs. Haley." Fairlington, read Neela Banerjee's column before posting another screed. Is Indian-American former NYT writer Neela Banerlee a racist for calling out "Nikki Haley" and her charade? LOL.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | July 28, 2010 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Chris. I appreciate the response. I meant the umlaut as an indication that I feel much more strongly about this than casual use of vulgarities. I drop an F-bomb now and then myself.

I gotta run, but will post more later. My guess is that is you polled registered SC voters, more than 90% realize that Haley is an Indian American. I wouldn't go postal, but this isn't the first time Joe has pulled this.

There is a deeper point. In Joe's world, minorities are only permitted to run for office as Democrats. And he will use their ethnicity against them.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | July 28, 2010 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Chris. I appreciate the response. I meant the umlaut as an indication that I feel much more strongly about this than casual use of vulgarities. I drop an F-bomb now and then myself.

I gotta run, but will post more later. My guess is that is you polled registered SC voters, more than 90% realize that Haley is an Indian American. I wouldn't go postal, but this isn't the first time Joe has pulled this.

There is a deeper point. In Joe's world, minorities are only permitted to run for office as Democrats. And he will use their ethnicity against them.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | July 28, 2010 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Uh, BB, I've lived in South Carolina, the people there are thick as they come. They'll cross the street in front of a speeding car. And they would not in a million years vote for someone named Nimrata.

But I wouldm if she wasn't a lousy teabagger Republican.

Posted by: Noacoler | July 28, 2010 7:34 PM | Report abuse

As we said, racism is carrying a n-word sign, opposing civil rights for minorities, or supporting a "restricted" neighborhood. It is hardly racist to stand with Indian Americans who question why Mrs. "Haley" is not acknowledging her culture and heritage in her SC campaign. But you know that already, don't you, Fairlington?

Posted by: broadwayjoe | July 28, 2010 7:32 PM | Report abuse

No, Joe. Don't even think you get an easy pass on this. You repeatedly posted Piyush Jindal on the Fix. Only a moron wouldn't realize that he's not Bobby Smith. The fact that you insist on using Nimrath Randhawa maiden name indicates that you use ethnic origin to slur Republicans.

What? Only caucasians are allowed to take their husband's surname? I'm sure that would come as a deep surprise to Nancy Patricia D'Alesandro. You know her better as Nancy PELOSI.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | July 28, 2010 7:29 PM | Report abuse

My 2¢

Adelaide is running as Alex.

I worked in the Deep South with a bunch of 'necks one Summer and had to "change" my name. I am nordic so to speak, it was not my race (blond hair, blue eyes), it was the name, they thought it too funny. The foreman renamed me (so he could yell for me without cracking up) and called me Jimeh, the way they say Jim. I am not named Jim or Jimmy, but I didn't mind.

Everyone knows Jindal is South Asian, calling himself Bobby has nothing to do with hiding in plain sight. Haley, not sure, but I'll bet it is about making the 'necks comfortable with a name, not about hiding. I did it.

My wife is an Indonesian Muslim and there is no question of her "other" status. I have seen people pulling their kids out of swimming pools when she gets in. She goes by an anglicized name, as her actual name is unpronounceable for most Americans. We care about the swimming pool thing, an awful lot, but we don't care about the name thing. The airlines do, but we don't.

And none of this has anything to do with Obama.

Ok fine, 1¢.

Posted by: shrink2 | July 28, 2010 7:28 PM | Report abuse

BB, quit it. I too have Indian friends and coworkers. And Muslim ones, BTW. My manager here is Indian and dark as a chestnut and I like the guy a lot. I'm gonna miss working for him when this contract runs out. No this isn't a "some of my best friends" and I don't think you're doing that either.

And Joe isn't going after Haley for Anglicizing her name as so many do, and of course I know all about that. My lover has an American name. MOST Chinese take on American names because they can't stand hearing the tonal mangling in American mouths. I know about this, and that isn't what Haley is doing.

Haley is seeking votes from people who would hate her for who she is if they knew her real name. Do I have to repeat this yet again? She isn't changing her name to make it easier to say, and if she ran under her real name and tried to get votes from the people she wants to elect her governor, she wouldn't get the votes, and you know it. It's not like a Chinese calling himself Skippy. She's selling out.

And in case you hadn't noticed I haven't done the umlaut thing in a long time.

Posted by: Noacoler | July 28, 2010 7:25 PM | Report abuse

A final comment as I'm about to spend the next several hours hauling limbs from a tree taken down in the Washington storms. The notion that South Carolinians or Louisianans are too thick to notice that Nikki Haley or Bobby Jindal are second generation Americans

The child of a friend of mine has a given name of Alvaro. His middle name is typically American. We'll call him Tim. His surname comes from his father and is typically American. I'll use Smith. If he ever goes into politics, I would expect the likes of BWJ to call him ALVARO Smith. Oh. Is it only prejudice when a Republican does it? I didn't know there was a liberal pass.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | July 28, 2010 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Fairlington Blade, this is the third or fourth time you have intentionally misrepresented the point here.

You're a smart guy so you clearly understand the point being made -- which, BTW, has been raised by several Indian Americans, including a former writer for the NYT, who have major problems with Mrs. Randhawa's campaign.

Mrs. Randhawa, a minority, won her primary by appealing to the Tea Party, which is regarded by many, including many mainstream journalists, as a racist proxy movement or a party with extreme racist elements, see, e.g, Billy Roper, Mike Williams, that is openly hostile to civil rights and racial and ethnic minorities. Thus, she clearly would not have won the primary had she run under her real name, her "Tea Party" base would have had nothing to do with her.

By contrast, our President ran under his name: he didn't say he was Barry O' Bannion or Barry Hugh Sein. He was proud of his heritage and didn't try to hide it.

Here's an excerpt from Indian American journalist Neela Banerjee on why the some in the INDIAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY has a problem with the way Mrs. Randhawa is waging her campsign:

"Some South Asians, probably those of a different political stripe than Haley and Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, have gone after them as sell-outs for having Anglo names, and after Haley, in particular, for being fair-skinned enough to pass for an ethnic white. Haley's Web site says that Nikki is her middle name. But in the desi community, we all know that we have our "good names" and our "house" names. Very few people are called by their "good name" at home, even if your name is short, like Neela. And no, I ain't about to tell you my house name. Nikki could very well be the house name for "Nimrata," her given name, or, truly, her middle name. She chucked her maiden name when she entered politics because she said it didn't fit onto a yard sign. (She did give her kids Indian names, though.) And Punjabis like Haley are often lighter-skinned than the world's notion of what Indian looks like. That said, recent South Asian candidates in the South have said openly that it helps to mask an "ethnic-sounding" name if you want to get elected."

http://www.doublex.com/blog/xxfactor/2010/6/10

For the record: Racism is carrying an n-word sign to a public event, opposing civil rights for all Americans, or supporting a restricted neighborhood.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | July 28, 2010 7:18 PM | Report abuse

I call bull, Chris. In your previous posts, you've indicated you often worked with Indians. Did everyone go by their original name or pick an Americanized name? How about your Vietnamese friends? I knew a fellow when I was a kid who had the name Triet. If he went by an easy to pronounce name, would you call him on it?

What Joe is doing is DEEPLY offensive. I have some good friends who are Indian and they're fine scientists. Great people too. Joe isn't merely targeting the political opposition. He's going after EVERY Indian American and I'm calling foul.

This isn't about being the Fix nanny. You want to use vülgårities? Fine. You cannot claim to be some kind of enlightened individual and stand by while someone targets politicians for their ethinicity. You're right there with all the teabaggers if you stand behind Joe on this.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | July 28, 2010 7:13 PM | Report abuse

"Who cares - make women the Governors in all 50 States


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Posted by: YouCanPostThis"
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Make that 49, we had one that already quit.

Posted by: JRM2 | July 28, 2010 7:09 PM | Report abuse

You can't possibly be as simpleminded as this, BB. You think BWJ is deriding "Haley" for her race? Get real. He's deriding the fact that she's currying (sorry couldn't help it) votes from a vehemently racist demographic while actually being someone they would rage at with bared teeth if they knew she wasn't just sporting a nice tan.

Remember Terry Dolan? NCPAC? Used antigay slurs to raise money for Reagan while secretly gay and in fact dying of AIDS? Same thing.

"Haley" should be standing up for minorities, pushing back against racists, fighting the good fight. Instead she's trying to "pass" and get votes from bigots. That's a little uglier than mere opportunism.

Seriously, BB, get off the high horse and parse the distinctions here.

Posted by: Noacoler | July 28, 2010 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Talk to my buddy, Tony Parantha. Tony was not his given name and it has batcrap to do with running for office. I also edited the last name in case anyone is looking in here. You've got a serious problem with minorities, Joe, particularly Indian ones.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | July 28, 2010 7:05 PM | Report abuse

The world is always a better place when the Republicans are in control

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There are a few hundred thousand people In Iraq and Afghanistan who would disagree With you if they hadn't been killed in Republican wars started for the fun of it.

Also a few million out of work Americans who might beg to differ

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I predict the Republicans will gain 59 net seats in the House - and they will have 51 Senate seats.

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Show of hands. Anyone care about the predictions of a meth burnout?

Posted by: Noacoler | July 28, 2010 6:55 PM | Report abuse

One Indian commentator suggested Nimrata's is/may be hoping that by running as "Nikki Haley," the SC tea baggers will think she's an ethnic white, which they wouldn't if her yard sign said, "Vote for Nimrata." You see, teabaggers don't take too kindly to MY-NOOR-IT-TEAS, see, e.g., Rand Paul, Mike Williams, and Billy Roper.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | July 28, 2010 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Quite frankly, Joe, I was very active in calling out Jake when he insisted on capitalizing President Obama's name. Your behavior is equally odious. You're no more a racist than Jake. No less, either.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | July 28, 2010 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Noacoloer


Nikki Haley is doing nothing different from Obama.


For you and broadwayjoe to not agree to that means that you two are basically liars, lovers of double standards.


No one wants anything to do with people like that.

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Posted by: YouCanPostThis | July 28, 2010 6:39 PM | Report abuse

The world is always a better place when the Republicans are in control

I predict the Republicans will gain 59 net seats in the House - and they will have 51 Senate seats.


It will be a good year.

Posted by: YouCanPostThis | July 28, 2010 6:36 PM | Report abuse

pass the popcorn it looks like 37ths day of melt has finally arrived.

"Nikki Haley" isn't using her actual name because the people she wants to vote for her ... wouldn't vote for anyone with such a foreign-sounding name.

Quick perusal of the political cardboards .. nope, not a single middle name in sight. So Obama omitting his is standard practice, not a deliberate deception like Randhawa.

Passing off her lightest of Indian skin as a "tan." Wonder how many votes she's get in South Carolina if the tebaggers knew she was born with that "tan," or if she spent any time in the sun and it deepened to the tones of rural India.

Now that would be a hoot.

Posted by: Noacoler | July 28, 2010 6:33 PM | Report abuse

12Bar CRAWL

Thank you to Obama for handing us the immigration issue this year.


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Posted by: YouCanPostThis | July 28, 2010 6:30 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe


Maybe Nikki will use her name when she takes office.


You are not being entirely honest, are you ? It's just a pile of garbage,

Cant you think of something else to say - besides rant against Women Republicans -


and trump up false charges of racism ?

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Posted by: YouCanPostThis | July 28, 2010 6:26 PM | Report abuse

What's wrong, You-Can-Spam-It,

Is the reality of Blago trial not being the End of Obama, and the injunction against the AZ carry-your-documentation-everywhere law getting you down? Is that why you have to slip back into your fantasies? You are even pasting the same posts from months ago.

Is everything closing in on you?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | July 28, 2010 6:11 PM | Report abuse

@37: BHO used his middle name at his swearing in. Nimrata Kaur Randhawa, on the other hand, refuses to use her real name in the campaign. Her explanation? Nim says it wouldn't fit on a yard sign, an excuse not impressing much of the Indian-American community.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | July 28, 2010 6:08 PM | Report abuse

The country has to enforce its immigration laws


If a person is here illegally, they have to go back.


It is that simple - how is it that FOREIGNERS are telling AMERICANS what our Constitution means???

Someone who is breaking immigration law can't scream "racial profiling" - and thereby STOP enforcement.

They immigration groups are just trying to STOP ALL ENFORCEMENT - AND MAKE THEIR OWN FEDERAL LAW - EVERYTHING GOES.

THAT IS WHO IS TRYING TO PRE-EMPT FEDERAL LAW, NOT ARIZONA.


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Posted by: YouCanPostThis | July 28, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Birds will be chirping - flowers will be in bloom.

The Sun will be shining.
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Oh, we know, kitties and puppies will frolic and bunny rabbits will rule. And conservatives will stroll the streets chanting their mantra: sarah-is-our-queen-blessed-be-our-queen-forever...mmm...mmm...mmm

And liberals will be crucified on the ridgelines of all the cities.

Bwahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: 12BarBlues | July 28, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Noacoler


Another ad hominem attack from you

attack attack


12 bar - noacoler fantasizes about the drug use of other posters.


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Posted by: YouCanPostThis | July 28, 2010 5:51 PM | Report abuse

There is no bright future for 37th though. What the meth takes away ... doesn't come back.

Posted by: Noacoler | July 28, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Every time the Republicans do something awful, they rally 'round and create a story through which a nefarious liberal impostor or conspiracy turns out to have done the deed. I thought, since no Republican could actually be this stupid, it must have been that evil commie ne'er-do-well: Noacoler.

Posted by: shrink2 | July 28, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

I see a day in 2013 when the nation has regained its santity.


Obama will be out of office.


Birds will be chirping - flowers will be in bloom.

The Sun will be shining.

The deficit will be below 300 billion dollars

The Conservatives will be setting policy - and the country will set its finances right.


Health care bill repealed - replaced with regulation to curb the abuses of the insurance companies -

Without Obama being a drag on job creation, the jobs picture improves dramatically.

The economy will be on the path to strong growth.

There is a bright future for America

Birds will be chirping - the flowers will be in bloom.


It is coming soon.

You can smile - that day is coming.


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Posted by: YouCanPostThis | July 28, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

It is coming soon.


You can smile - that day is coming.
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Fantasy number what? Oh, Fantasy #114.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | July 28, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

The unspoken subtext is this development is good for women. But many of them, Nimrata Randhawa and Jan Brewer, for instance, are baggers, who are OPPOSED to civil rights, so it's hard to see how their winning advances females.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | July 28, 2010 5:33 PM | Report abuse

I see a day in 2013 when the nation has regained its santity.


Obama will be out of office.


The deficit will be below 300 billion dollars


Health care bill repealed - replaced with regulation to curb the abuses of the insurance companies -

Without Obama being a drag on job creation, the jobs picture improves dramatically.


There is a bright future for America

It is coming soon.


You can smile - that day is coming.

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Posted by: YouCanPostThis | July 28, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Another stupid poll. Country's going to hell, mired in two wars, got fascists organizing their own li'l beer hall putsch, economy in the gutter, and what do we get here? Frivolous polls about fluff.

We all know what "quotas" is dog-whistle for, don't we.

Shrink, I wouldn't do that kind of flim-flammery, I couldn't do dual-identity stuff without deranging myself in the effort. The one time I tried it years ago I felt like I was going nuts.

And GOP trolls don't need any help making conservatives look bad any more than Reid needs help making Angle look bad.

Posted by: Noacoler | July 28, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe


Since you are constantly harping on Nikki Haley's name - what was your position that Obama was not REQUIRED to list his middle name HUSSEIN on every sign, website, newspaper article and ballot in the country ???

So, watching you this year - you would have been in favor of REQUIRING Obama to use his middle name on EVERYTHING including signs, pins, bumper stickers and his birth certificate file (as yet still hidden and NON TRANSPARENT)

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Posted by: YouCanPostThis | July 28, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Citizen's edit:

"Women have also been nominated in gubernatorial races in four other states: state Rep. [Nimrata Kaur Randhawa] (R) in South Carolina...."

Posted by: broadwayjoe | July 28, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Massachusettes? Is that like the Boston version of the Rockettes?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | July 28, 2010 5:07 PM | Report abuse

...birthing a Yaught...ouch...hope she got an episiotomy

Posted by: shrink2 | July 28, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Since this thread has stalled and is not funny anyway, I might as well repost this steaming little pile of Republican filth...

"The Progressive sniveling liberal John Fn Kerry, like his fellow progressive liberal cohorts, are happy to talk about raising taxes across the board and discussing the Rich paying their "fair" share of taxes. And then promptly purchases a Yaught under one of his wifes Pittsburgh based companies / fronts, and births it in another state to save $500,000.00 in taxes, or if this where a G.O.P. Senator, the liberals would say that he was cheating the Pour in Massachusettes out of tax revenue. Also lost to the State of Massachusettes, are approx. anual fees of $50,000.00+.

[illiterate coda omitted, you've seen enough]

Posted by: ignoranceisbliss

Sure you can't spell Massachusetts (its not Anglish after all), but Yaught, cheating the Pour? Noacoler, is this you? Is someone trying to make Republicans look stupid?

Posted by: shrink2 | July 28, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse


Obama slipped a secret provision into the financial regulation bill - and now THE BILL REQUIRES QUOTAS AT PRIVATE FIRMS on Wall Street.


Politico has a story on it.


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Posted by: YouCanPostThis
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Do the private firms have a quota choice of liberals, radicals, progressives, or just plain democrats?

Posted by: leapin | July 28, 2010 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Obama slipped a secret provision into the financial regulation bill - and now THE BILL REQUIRES QUOTAS AT PRIVATE FIRMS on Wall Street.


Politico has a story on it.


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Posted by: YouCanPostThis | July 28, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Winners will be:

Fallin (OK); Denish (NM); Haley (SC); Sink (FL); Mitchell (ME); Brewer (AZ); Kelliher (MN) Handel (GA) and Meyer (WY) for a total of 9.

Keep an eye on Handel and Haley as potential VP nominees for their party in '12 if the nominee isn't Palin...

Posted by: Coloradem1 | July 28, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Who cares - make women the Governors in all 50 States


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Posted by: YouCanPostThis | July 28, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

In 1948, naming a girl Adelaide probably seemed sweeter than it does now.

Posted by: shrink2 | July 28, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

I believe Ms. Mitchell is the Democratic nominee in Maine, not Vermont. Vermont has yet to pick its Democratic nominee for Governor.

Posted by: RSNSouth | July 28, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Whoa, I had no idea that Sink is a woman.

Posted by: DDAWD | July 28, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

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