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Dick Cheney, Trey Grayson and the Fix endorsement hierarchy



Former Vice President Dick Cheney has endorsed Trey Grayson in the Kentucky Senate primary. AP Photo/Susan Walsh

Former Vice President Dick Cheney threw his endorsement behind Kentucky Secretary of State Trey Grayson today, calling him the "real thing" in his Senate primary fight with ophthalmologist Rand Paul.

"The challenges posed by radical Islam and Al Qaeda are real and will be an ongoing threat to our domestic security for years to come," said Cheney. "We need Senators who truly understand this and who will work to strengthen our commitment to a strong national defense and to whom this is not just a political game."

Grayson, the establishment favorite in the May 18 primary, has struggled to overcome the grassroots energy and fundraising by Paul but, of late, has sought to turn the race into a referendum on past comments made by his opponent regarding the closure of Guantanamo Bay and Iran's pursuit of a nuclear weapon. (Grayson is on television with an ad that seeks to raise questions about Paul's previous public statements on those issues.)

Is Cheney -- with apologies to Mark Halperin and John Heilemann -- a game changer? It's time to roll out our favorite feature: the Fix endorsement hierarchy.

First, a quick history. A few years back we came up with the idea of trying to quantify how much (or, in most cases, how little) endorsements in the context of campaigns mattered. With this -- as with all things -- we looked to Bill "The Sports Guy" Simmons for guidance and adapted his "Levels of Losing" into the political context. The result? The Fix endorsement hierarchy.

Here it is -- ranked from most influential to least:

* The Symbolic Endorsement: Ted Kennedy backing Barack Obama during the 2008 primaries.
* The In-State Statewide Endorsement: Florida Gov. Charlie Crist throwing his support to John McCain just before the Sunshine State presidential primary in 2008.
* The Celebrity Endorsement: Chuck Norris for Mike Huckabee in 2008.
* The Newspaper Endorsement: Des Moines Register for John Edwards in 2004.
* Out-of-State Statewide Endorsement : South Carolina Sen. Jim DeMint endorsing former Florida state House Speaker Marco Rubio in the 2010 Senate primary.
* The Turnabout-Is-Fair-Play Endorsement: New York Assemblywoman Dede Scozzafava (R) endorsing Rep. Bill Owens (D) in the 2009 20th district special election.
* The Obligatory Endorsement: Mississippi Sen. Thad Cochran endorsing McCain's presidential bid in 2008.
* The Non-Endorsement Endorsement: Former Virginia Gov. Doug Wilder passing on state Sen. Creigh Deeds in the 2009 governor's contest.
* The Pariah Endorsement: Former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards (D) endorsing anyone.

Where the Cheney endorsement of Paul fits in the Fix hierarchy is in the eye of the beholder.

The Grayson forces would undoubtedly cast it as a symbolic endorsement, noting that Cheney is not only a well-known and well-liked figure within the Republican party but he also is the most prominent defender (and creator?) of the Bush Administration's policies on national security matters.

Seen through that lens, the Cheney endorsement tells undecided Republican primary voters that Grayson is the right choice to keep them and their families safe, a potentially powerful message in the coming primary -- if true.

The Paul team, on the other hand, would likely cast the Cheney endorsement as an out-of-state statewide endorsement -- a far less powerful and influential support-throwing move.

Under that line of thinking, Cheney, while well known nationally, doesn't vote in Kentucky nor does he have any special connection to the people of Kentucky so while he may draw some headlines for Grayson, he won't ultimately affect any votes.

One point that may argue for the Paul point-of-view is Cheney's recent endorsement track record.

Cheney endorsed Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison earlier this year in her primary challenge to Texas Gov. Rick Perry, calling her the true conservative voice in the race.

Cheney's endorsement did next to nothing to help Hutchison and, in fact, might have hurt her at the margins as it played into Perry's central argument -- that the Senator was controlled by Washington elites while he was answerable only to the people of Texas.

Perry won the primary going away, beating Hutchison by 21 points and putting Cheney (and the other members of the George W. Bush team that had endorsed her) in the Fix's loser circle.

Given that recent history, we tend to see Cheney as fitting best into the out-of-state statewide endorsement. That means that while Cheney's endorsement is nice for Grayson to have -- and may well earn him a second look by some Kentucky Republican primary voters -- it's not likely to be determinative come May 18.

By Chris Cillizza  |  March 24, 2010; 2:34 PM ET
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37thand0street
ALL CAPS ????
GROW UP ????
Denying that the GOP and the Tea Partiers are being vilified without cause is useless. They have already showed their ugly side and will never be taken seriously after reacting they way they have. The two "groups" have set back conservatism by years and I personally am ashamed.

Posted by: dcperspective | March 25, 2010 12:18 PM | Report abuse

I want to know who the repukicans were on the balconies of the state house, waving the banners encouraging the teabonkers on.
Why hasn't any media provided us with that info? It was probably the same ones in the chambers raucously encouraging the deplorable actions of their compadres. The
repukican congressmen and senators might as well put on their sneakers and join the mob, they certainly don't deserve to be in our halls of justice.

Posted by: patriotgmalou | March 25, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

I want to know who the repukicans were on the balconies of the state house, waving the banners encouraging the teabonkers on.
Why hasn't any media provided us with that info? It was probably the same ones in the chambers raucously encouraging the deplorable actions of their compadres. The
repukican congressmen and senators might as well put on their sneakers and join the mob, they certainly don't deserve to be in our halls of justice.

Posted by: patriotgmalou | March 25, 2010 11:02 AM | Report abuse

37-the anger of the Teabaggers is due to the likes of Palin, Limbaugh, and Beck.
What they are doing is throwing gasoline on an alreday raging fire of hate, and all
the degenerative elements of our society are joining the ranks and fanning the flames. This will become an inferno, it is
happening as we speak. The once legitimate
group of folks seeking change has morfed into a mob of madness. They no longer have any actual relevance in this whole picture, other than a force to be feared.
The GOP is giddy with idiot joy, poor losers, unspeakably vile racist slime.

Posted by: patriotgmalou | March 25, 2010 10:40 AM | Report abuse

Any endorsement by Cheney, Rove, Palin, Limbaugh, Beck, or Teabaggers will result in defeats of the endorsed candidates such as Hutchinson. So, bring on your lousy endorsements, most of America welcomes the results. The candidates who accept these endorsements are pissing up a rope.

Posted by: patriotgmalou | March 25, 2010 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Cheney endorsed KBH in the Texas Primary, that didn't work out very well. I suspect that folks like JD Hayworth and Paul have serious prospects in this quirky election cycle(which is precisely why McCain is now in panic mode), especially Paul who has a rock star like quality from his daddy's recognition.

Posted by: leichtman1 | March 25, 2010 9:09 AM | Report abuse

ok what are these faux sexual slurs? Yesterday I called Palin an intellectual lightweight and pointed to her writing crib notes on her hand and repetitive references to VP Biden as O'Biden as examples. You claim Ds hate her when most of us in reality are her biggest fans and gitty with excitement over her most certain GOP nomination in 2012. I also posted that I would contribute to a Palin/Bachman ticket,I am serious about that and that is a sexual slur?
Again what is it about the inappropriateness of spitting on US Congressmen and yelling the N word at a Civil Rights Leader that you don't understand. Your utter silence and moral rationalizing is truly amazing.

Posted by: leichtman1 | March 25, 2010 9:04 AM | Report abuse

Perhaps it's just me because I'm a supporter of Rand Paul's (though I don't live in KY) but I think that Cheny's endorsement of Grayson is a good thing for Paul's campaign.

He's running against the Republican establishment. And Mr. Republican Establishment has endoresed his opponent.

What a gift.

Posted by: MDLaxer | March 25, 2010 9:04 AM | Report abuse

more faux outrage, moral equivalency and spamming by 37th. Apparently use of the N word against a US Congressman and Civil Rights leader is again in vogue with the radical right. What is next, hoses or attack dogs? You do know something about America's racial history, right? Welcome back GOP radicals to the 1950s. Racial and Homophobic slurs and calls for radical violence are now a new tactic by GOP leadership. That is the face of today's GOP. Sreaming fire in a crowded theatre is now acceptable behavior to the radical right aka the GOP. What is tragic is that they are clueless that these constant outbursts have real life consequences that will not stop until g++ forbid someone gets hurt. Is that what they are hoping for?

Posted by: leichtman1 | March 25, 2010 8:52 AM | Report abuse

The liberals and the democrats have been hurling SEXUAL SLURS at the Tea Party Movement for months - now all of a sudden, they are saying that some words are out-of-bounds - while the SEXUAL SLURS ARE STILL IN BOUNDS ???

The idea that the democrats have been civil toward the Tea Party Movement is simply not the case.

Even on this blog, SEXUAL SLURS have been used on almost a daily basis - sometimes several times - despite other bloggers pointing out the contradictions.

So which is it ???

When the democrats want to attack, it is OK for them to use SEXUAL SLURS, but when the other side wants to get angry, they are instantly out of bounds????

The anger of the TEA PARTY MOVEMENT has been caused by Obama going back on his pledges to be bipartisan.

If Obama had taken the difficult road of bipartisan - WHICH HE HAD PLEDGED TO DO NUMEROUS TIMES OVER A TWO YEAR PERIOD ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, - we would have a vastly different situation here.


Broadwayjoe - case in point - is he working for OFA or the DNC - and has he been using these SEXUAL SLURS on this blog???

The democrats are the ones who have abandoned all civil bahavior - now they claim they don't like it when it comes back to them.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 25, 2010 1:14 AM | Report abuse

A CALL FOR THE RESIGNATION OF REP CLYBURN OF SOUTH CAROLINA


Rep. Clyburn went on CNN tonight and stated that he believed that the protests on Capitol Hill this weekend "were not about health care, but about RACE."


This is a COMPLETE DISGRACE TO THE COUNTRY.


For Rep. Clyburn - to basically disregard any legitimate opposition to the health care bill - and instead INSIST THAT EVERYONE AGAINST THE HEALTH CARE BILL ARE RACISTS.


This is a disgrace to our country - a disgrace to our American system of government.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 24, 2010 10:36 PM | Report abuse

Margaret,


Again - is it not the CONTENT of the postings with which you disagree?

Would you be complaining if you agreed with the content?

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 24, 2010 10:34 PM | Report abuse

44 posts and 23 of them come from the corner. Please, we all beg of you: less heat, more light.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | March 24, 2010 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Journalists are starting to connect the dots between the Tea Baggers and...the Klan:

"The Tea-Partiers are the direct decendants of Duke, except in visible masses. They are an extension of the Klan, which gained numbers directly after slaves earned their freedom. They are racist, homophobic, ignorant trash trying to masquerade as responsible citizens. Some of them might feel this is a valid "movement." I don't think it's valid, but I will agree it's a movement alright. A bowel movement.

Characterize it any way you want, republicans. Try to recruit as much as you want, John Boehner and Michelle Bachmann. The smarter of us know exactly what you are doing. You're race bating for political gain. Is there anything more ugly and grotesque than that?"

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/3/21/83546/7530

Read and heed, 37.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | March 24, 2010 9:41 PM | Report abuse

"There are scores of people - in crowds - surely more than one or two people would have heard these comments - and would have been witnesses."

Hey, pal, start with Congressmen Clyburn, Cleaver, and Frank, and work up from there... All the best.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | March 24, 2010 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Republican leaders keep playing with violence, threats, metaphors,
don't.

Stop flirting with violence.
It is not a game.

Little kids tend to get killed.

Posted by: shrink2 | March 24, 2010 9:13 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe


to your comment at 8:49 - HUNDREDS OF CAMERAS ON CAPITOL HILL THIS WEEKEND - HUNDREDS OF MICROPHONES - NOT ONE CAUGHT THESE SUPPOSED COMMENTS.

THIS has all the makings of a manufactured racial incident.

There are scores of people - in crowds - surely more than one or two people would have heard these comments - and would have been witnesses.


Sorry - but with all your SEXUAL SLURS on this blog, you are the LAST PERSON who should be able to complain about someone else's language.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 24, 2010 9:11 PM | Report abuse

s2, you're right. I'm withdrawing that thought experiment. It truly is way too scary. Sorry.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | March 24, 2010 9:08 PM | Report abuse

A CALL FOR THE RESIGNATION OF REP CLYBURN OF SOUTH CAROLINA


Rep. Clyburn went on CNN tonight and stated that he believed that the protests on Capitol Hill this weekend "were not about health care, but about RACE."


This is a COMPLETE DISGRACE TO THE COUNTRY.


For Rep. Clyburn - to basically disregard any legitimate opposition to the health care bill - and instead INSIST THAT EVERYONE AGAINST THE HEALTH CARE BILL ARE RACISTS.


This is a disgrace to our country - a disgrace to our American system of government.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 24, 2010 9:04 PM | Report abuse

A CALL FOR THE RESIGNATION OF REP CLYBURN OF SOUTH CAROLINA


Rep. Clyburn went on CNN tonight and stated that he believed that the protests on Capitol Hill this weekend "were not about health care, but about RACE."


This is a COMPLETE DISGRACE TO THE COUNTRY.


For Rep. Clyburn - to basically disregard any legitimate opposition to the health care bill - and instead INSIST THAT EVERYONE AGAINST THE HEALTH CARE BILL ARE RACISTS.


This is a disgrace to our country - a disgrace to our American system of government.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 24, 2010 9:03 PM | Report abuse

37, can we have some of your spit so we can test its DNA and match it against the DNA from the bigots' spit Cleaver wiped off?

Posted by: broadwayjoe | March 24, 2010 8:59 PM | Report abuse

"What would the Fix headline have been the day after the passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act?"

Stop scaring me. My whole "narrative"* is we went ahead, we got better, no one would spit on black people, let alone elected officials and scream N!igger! I thought we were done with Louise Day Hicks in the North. In 1967, she just might have been Boston's Mayor.

*narrative is a word we use to create quote marks around what we are saying, a signal to anyone: you should think we are serious, funny, profound, or anything else de jour.

Posted by: shrink2 | March 24, 2010 8:52 PM | Report abuse

A CALL FOR THE RESIGNATION OF REP CLYBURN OF SOUTH CAROLINA


Rep. Clyburn went on CNN tonight and stated that he believed that the protests on Capitol Hill this weekend "were not about health care, but about RACE."


This is a COMPLETE DISGRACE TO THE COUNTRY.


For Rep. Clyburn - to basically disregard any legitimate opposition to the health care bill - and instead INSIST THAT EVERYONE AGAINST THE HEALTH CARE BILL ARE RACISTS.


This is a disgrace to our country - a disgrace to our American system of government.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 24, 2010 8:52 PM | Report abuse

Broadwayjoe


Just remember the 1964 Civil Rights Act - was just RE-INSTATING THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT OF 1875.

Which the DEMOCRATS REPEALED.


Remember the Democrats were responsible for the State-Sponsored Terrorism against blacks for 90 years -


The democrats aligned themselves with the KKK - and there were KKK-controlled blocks of delegates at the Democratic National Conventions

The democrats fought the civil rights of the blacks - go back and look at the party affliation of those against civil rights.


You are so wrong about so many things.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 24, 2010 8:50 PM | Report abuse

We know this space took great pains to avoid mention of the tea party hate fest, the big NEWS story discussed in about six articles written by Fix coworkers (see, e.g., Robinson, Milbank), but we have to respond to the fake 37.
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"A staffer for Rep. James Clyburn (D-S.C.) told reporters that Rep. Emanuel Cleaver (D-M.D.) had been spit on by a protestor. Rep. John Lewis (D-G.A.), a hero of the civil rights movement, was called a 'ni--er.' And Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.) was called a "fag___t," as protestors shouted at him with deliberately lisp-y screams. Frank, approached in the halls after the president's speech, shrugged off the incident.

But Clyburn was downright incredulous, saying he had not witnessed such treatment since he was leading civil rights protests in South Carolina in the 1960s.

"It was absolutely shocking to me," Clyburn told the Huffington Post. "Last Monday, this past Monday, I stayed home to meet on the campus of Claflin University where fifty years ago as of last Monday... I led the first demonstrations in South Carolina, the sit ins... And quite frankly I heard some things today I have not heard since that day. I heard people saying things that I have not heard since March 15, 1960 when I was marching to try and get off the back of the bus.""

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x233263

Well said, Mr. Clyburn.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | March 24, 2010 8:49 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe


A false narrative ? I don't think so.

Now you are advancing downright LIES.

The American People DO NOT WANT ANOTHER MASSIVE SPENDING PROGRAM.


THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DO NOT WANT OBAMA'S NEW TAXES.

THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DO NOT WANT OBAMA GOING AROUND THE COUNTRY FOR TWO YEARS TELLING EVERYONE HOW BIPARTISAN HE IS GOING TO BE - ONLY TO TAKE A SHARP TURN TO THE LEFT AS SOON AS HE COULD FIND A FLIMSEY EXCUSE.


YOU ARE A DISGRACE TO THIS COUNTRY.


IF YOU DON'T LIKE AMERICA, LEAVE - YOU DON'T BELONG HERE.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 24, 2010 8:45 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe

I could care less what Eugene Robinson has to say

I can tell you this - after the slam-dunk on your views last night, you should be completely ashamed to come back on this blog, ever.

Having said that - if someone characterized ALL BLACKS AS CRIMINALS - BASED ON THE ACTIONS OF A FEW, you would probably not like that.

However, you feel it is right to characterize all the Tea Party Activists based on the actions of a few.

Your logic is so flawed, it is pathetic.


Please get off this blog FOREVER.

You should be ashamed to be on here.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 24, 2010 8:42 PM | Report abuse

A day or so after this space posted the false narrative that polls show Americans don't support health care reform (yeah, like they don't support commie plots like medicare, clean air and water regulations, public schools, and national parks), we're glad to post some fact-based GOOD news.
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"More Americans now favor than oppose the health care overhaul that President Obama signed into law Tuesday, a USA TODAY/Gallup Poll finds — a notable turnaround from surveys before the vote that showed a plurality against the legislation.
By 49%-40%, those polled say it was "a good thing" rather than a bad one that Congress passed the bill."

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2010-03-23-health-poll-favorable_N.htm

We suspect the number would be around 70 percent (where it, in fact, was (WITH the public option) before the Big Pharma/Bagger campaign against reform) if the poll questions were legit (Do you support a health care reform bill if it will bankrupt the U.S. for all time?) and those polled first knew what was it the bill. Kinda helps.

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A scary William Bennett-style "thought experiment:

What would the Fix headline have been the day after the passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act? What would have been the Fix "news and analysis"?

Posted by: broadwayjoe | March 24, 2010 8:36 PM | Report abuse


A CALL FOR THE RESIGNATION OF REP CLYBURN OF SOUTH CAROLINA

Rep. Clyburn went on CNN tonight and stated that he believed that the protests on Capitol Hill this weekend "were not about health care, but about RACE."

This is a COMPLETE DISGRACE TO THE COUNTRY.

For Rep. Clyburn - to basically disregard any legitimate opposition to the health care bill - and instead INSIST THAT EVERYONE AGAINST THE HEALTH CARE BILL ARE RACISTS.

This is a disgrace to our country - a disgrace to our American system of government.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 24, 2010 8:36 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe

Again, you are using SEXUAL SLURS ON THIS BLOG.

YOUR POINTS ARE WHOLLY INCORRECT - AND YOU ARE DOING NOTHING BUT BE DIVISIVE.

CASE CLOSED.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 24, 2010 8:35 PM | Report abuse

"Dick Cheney, Trey Grayson and the Fix endorsement hierarchy"

Definitely not political news. Definitely not political analysis. Is this the no-longer-daily Washington Times, or the Washington Post. Oh well.
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@37:

We aren't in the habit of trying to prove the sun is bright or that water is wet, but...

Here's legit "Political News & Analysis" from Fix coworker Eugene Robinson

"On Saturday, the vile epithet that is euphemistically called "the N-word" had been hurled at Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.), one of the great heroes of the civil rights movement, as he walked past the Tea Party crowd. Rep. Emanuel Cleaver II (D-Mo.), who is also black, was spat upon. Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.), who is gay, was insulted with what I guess should be called "the F-word."

Most Republican opponents of health-care reform had the decency -- and the political sense -- to disavow the racist and homophobic attacks. Incredibly, some did not. Rep. Devin Nunes of California told C-SPAN: "Yeah, well I think that when you use totalitarian tactics, people, you know, begin to act crazy. I think, you know, there's people that have every right to say what they want. If they want to smear someone, they can do it." And Rep. Steve King of Iowa airily dismissed the incident: "I just don't think it's anything. . . . There are a lot of places in this country that I couldn't walk through. I wouldn't live to get to the other end of it." "
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Maybe Cleaver saved some of the bigots' spit for your examination, 37. I'd be glad to furnish another picture of Dale Robertson proudly standing with the baggers' iconic banner, their famous n-word sign.

All the best. Case closed.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | March 24, 2010 8:16 PM | Report abuse


We don't have one racial slur from the weekend on tape - with hundreds of microphones and cameras all over Capitol Hill.


However, we do have Rep Clyburn today telling CNN that the protests were "NOT about health care but about race."

This is a disgrace.


AND we have the media buying into this FALSE STORYLINE - MSNBC HAS IT ON 24 HOURS A DAY.


THIS IS A DISGRACE.

OBAMA IS A FRAUD - THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DO NOT WANT HIS HEALTH CARE PROGRAM -


THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DO NOT WANT A MASSIVE GOVERNMENT PROGRAM


THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DO NOT WANT OBAMA'S MASSIVE TAXES.


That is the source of the problem.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 24, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse

Rep. Clyburn of South Carolina JUST DID IT AGAIN - HE CALLED THE PROTESTORS RACISTS.

He said the protests at the Capitol where not about health care, but about race.


THIS STATEMENT IS A DISGRACE. OBAMA WAS ELECTED BECAUSE HE WAS PROMISING A POST-RACIAL ATTITUDE. THIS IS NOT POST-RACIAL.

The democrats are PRACTICING HATE SPEECH.

WHAT REP. CLYBURN JUST SAID ON CNN WAS HATE SPEECH - AND HATE SPEECH WITH NO BASIS IN FACT.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 24, 2010 6:27 PM | Report abuse

What if there was a national political party which went down to the Courthouse - and tried to characterize all blacks as criminals based on the actions of the few blacks on trial for crimes?


This is what Obama and the democrats are doing -


Obama and the democrats are trying to characterize everyone in the Tea Party Movement as racist based on the alleged actions of a few.


This is disgraceful - and the media is participating.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 24, 2010 6:23 PM | Report abuse


Obama IS IMPOSING ON THE COUNTRY a MASSIVE GOVERNMENT PROGRAM AND MASSIVE TAXES WHICH THE COUNTRY DOES NOT WANT.

Then Obama and democrats fake that they don't know why people are angry.


Obama is HAPPY TO MAKE YOU ANGRY.

Obama practiced a GREAT DEAL OF DECEPTION to get to this point -

Obama went around the country for years PROMISING TO BE BIPARTISAN - WHICH MEANT HE WOULD PURSUE CENTRIST POLICIES THAT BOTH PARTIES AGREED ON.

THIS WAS A FRAUD.

Yet he appears to not know why you are angry.


IT APPEARS THE OFFICIAL LINE OF THE DEMOCRATS IS THE OPPOSITION TO THE HEALTH CARE PLAN ARE ALL A BUNCH OF RACISTS.

AND they will imply that your policy disagreements are really masked racism.


And Obama smiles - he is happy to make you angry.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 24, 2010 6:08 PM | Report abuse

It is upsetting - this is a massive effort to paint the Tea Party movement.


What if someone went to the courthouse - and tried to paint all blacks as criminals based on the actions of a few who are on trial at the courthouse ???


SERIOUSLY, THIS IS WHAT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS UP TO TODAY.


And there with hundreds of cameras and microphones on Capitol Hill, NOT ONE CAUGHT A RACIAL SLUR - but the democrats are sooooo offended.

OH yea, sounds manufactured to me.


Sounds like Obama in summer of 2008 saying that the Republicans weren't racist yet, but THEY WERE GOING TO BE.


THIS STORY IS BEING PLAYED TOO MUCH.


And this stunt seems to have been pulled before they had the deal with Stupak - so maybe they pulled it when they thought they might lose the vote last weekend.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 24, 2010 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Somebody jog 37th. The needle is stuck again.

Posted by: JakeD3 | March 24, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

I think this falls under the Deficits-don't-matter-chickenhawks Endorsement.

Posted by: jbentley4 | March 24, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

What a bunch of deranged burnouts post here as conservatives.

Accurate cross-section, I'm sure.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 24, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS AN ORGANIZED ATTEMPT TO SMEAR AN ENTIRE GROUP OF PEOPLE BASED ON THE ALLEGED, AND UNPROVEN, ACTIONS OF A FEW.


This is what Obama is all about.


Obama : it is not about the color of your skin, it is about the content of your character - which you are sorely lacking.

If you get elected on promises of Bipartisanship, which is difficult, you should make all sorts of efforts to DELIVER WHAT YOU HAVE PROMISED.

You don't give some lame excuse, blame the other side, and see a green light for A FAR-LEFT WING AGENDA.


That is Obama's problem - and that is why people are angry.


The democrats instead of recognizing reality, prefer to engage in sexual slurs and HATE SPEECH.

THE DEMOCRATS PRACTICE HATE SPEECH AGAINST THE TEA PARTY MOVEMENT.

THE DEMOCRATS ARE PRACTICING THE HATE SPEECH - TIM KAINE, THE DNC HEAD, IS ON THE WAR PATH - TRYING TO CLAIM THE HIGH GROUND WHILE PRACTICING HATE SPEECH.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 24, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

I think dribbl and its pals like to go to tea party rallies, dressed as KKK and Nazis. they incite nastiness, just as they do here and everywhere, and try to get on camera.

Imagine if we imbued all liberals with the utter contempt and nastiness that dribbl, Ped, Loud and dumb and Baghdad BJ harbor. We would have a flock of Olbermanns - blind and batty and ugly.

Posted by: Zouk_is_King | March 24, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS AN ORGANIZED ATTEMPT TO SMEAR AN ENTIRE GROUP OF PEOPLE BASED ON THE ALLEGED, AND UNPROVEN, ACTIONS OF A FEW.


This is what Obama is all about.


Obama : it is not about the color of your skin, it is about the content of your character - which you are sorely lacking.

If you get elected on promises of Bipartisanship, which is difficult, you should make all sorts of efforts to DELIVER WHAT YOU HAVE PROMISED.

You don't give some lame excuse, blame the other side, and see a green light for A FAR-LEFT WING AGENDA.


That is Obama's problem - and that is why people are angry.


The democrats instead of recognizing reality, prefer to engage in sexual slurs and HATE SPEECH.

THE DEMOCRATS PRACTICE HATE SPEECH AGAINST THE TEA PARTY MOVEMENT.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 24, 2010 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Cheney admits to authorizing waterboarding of prisoners. Waterboarding is torture as defined by International Law that the USA proscribes to and has acted on. The USA administered the death penalty for the war crime of waterboarding.

Cheney's attempts at increasing National Security FAILED. One badly run war and one phony war has contributed to the economic mess we find ourselves in and we are, as a result, significantly less secure.

If Republicans want to run as The Torture Party, go ahead. Now that the Tea-baggers have started terrorist attacks on congressional family members, maybe they want to endorsements from them too.

Bring it!

Posted by: thebobbob | March 24, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

drinl


There is no racial slur on that tape - and are they claiming this happened on Saturday - when the vote was in doubt, or Sunday ?

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 24, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse


WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS AN ORGANIZED ATTEMPT TO SMEAR AN ENTIRE GROUP OF PEOPLE BASED ON THE ALLEGED, AND UNPROVEN, ACTIONS OF A FEW.


This is what Obama is all about.

Obama : it is not about the color of your skin, it is about the content of your character - which you are sorely lacking.


If you get elected on promises of Bipartisanship, which is difficult, you should make all sorts of efforts to DELIVER WHAT YOU HAVE PROMISED.


You don't give some lame excuse, blame the other side, and see a green light for A FAR-LEFT WING AGENDA.

That is Obama's problem - and that is why people are angry.

The democrats instead of recognizing reality, prefer to engage in sexual slurs and HATE SPEECH.


THE DEMOCRATS PRACTICE HATE SPEECH AGAINST THE TEA PARTY MOVEMENT.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 24, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: drindl | March 24, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Chris


I think you are trying to quantify varying degrees of nothing - it's like a Seinfeld episode.

Endorsements mean little - no one listens to anyone anymore.

Even a newspaper endorsement - how many of the actual Editors in the room end up voting for that candidate? That endorsement doesn't even guarantee the room.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 24, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Or is it a call to support the military industrial complex? Is anyone looking at where Grayson is getting his campaign contributions?

"The challenges posed by radical Islam and Al Qaeda are real and will be an ongoing threat to our domestic security for years to come," said Cheney. "We need Senators who truly understand this and who will work to strengthen our commitment to a strong national defense and to whom this is not just a political game."

Posted by: The-Historian | March 24, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

prairiepopulist


You ARE ACTUALLY ANOTHER WITNESS WHO DID NOT HEAR A RACIAL SLUR UP THERE.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 24, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

prairiepopulist


BUT YOU DIDN'T ACTUALLY HEAR ANYTHING RACIST, DID YOU ????

SERIOUSLY.

AND WHAT "OTHER BUSINESS" WAS GOING ON THERE ON A SUNDAY ?


LETS BE SERIOUS FOLKS.

IF THERE WAS A TAPE OF A RACIAL SLUR MSNBC WOULD HAVE HAD IT PLAYED OVER AND OVER AGAIN 24 HOURS A DAY.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 24, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

prairiepopulist


BUT YOU DIDN'T ACTUALLY HEAR ANYTHING RACIST, DID YOU ????

SERIOUSLY.

AND WHAT "OTHER BUSINESS" WAS GOING ON THERE ON A SUNDAY ?


LETS BE SERIOUS FOLKS.

IF THERE WAS A TAPE OF A RACIAL SLUR MSNBC WOULD HAVE HAD IT PLAYED OVER AND OVER AGAIN 24 HOURS A DAY.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 24, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Does the fear card still work? Well maybe in Kentucky.

""The challenges posed by radical Islam and Al Qaeda are real and will be an ongoing threat to our domestic security for years to come," said Cheney. "We need Senators who truly understand this and who will work to strengthen our commitment to a strong national defense and to whom this is not just a political game.""

Posted by: The-Historian | March 24, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, I just realized that I got "lured" off topic on this thread. My apologies.

Posted by: prairiepopulist | March 24, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

While in DC on another matter, I had to work my way through the mob that stood between the House office buildings and the Capitol, a thoroughfare for those choosing to walk outside from their office to the House in order to participate in the debate. (So, a Congressperson being there not only isn't unusual, but I saw about 30 making their way over.)

And, I was spit by one protester after begin surrounded when I was simply TALKING with someone who held a "Health Reform Now" sign. So, I have no problem believing that some, maybe even most based on my experience, in that crowd would shout racist terms or spit on Members of Congress.

It was not pretty out there.

Posted by: prairiepopulist | March 24, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

This week CC said 70% of Americans liked or approved of Barak Obama as a person. We are about 50/50 on his job performance.

I wonder, what percentage of Republicans nowadays think Dick Cheney is a good person and what proportion approve of his Veep job performance?

If these numbers exist, the value of his endorsement might be quantified.

Posted by: shrink2 | March 24, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Symbolic endorsement, I have to say. The Bush administration is still very popular among Republicans and the underlings might even be more so. If Republicans dislike Bush, it's not so much for his policies as for his political toxicity. They might not hold Cheney responsible for that.

And I think Kentucky is a poor state for libertarianism. Kentucky is more social conservative than economic conservative. Yeah, when you are one, you will co-opt the other in some way, but libertarians are more socially liberal which might hurt Paul (not that I know anything about Paul's views specifically. I'm just generalizing on libertarianism in general)

For a Republican primary, I think it's probably a net positive to get Cheney's endorsement. At least for the primary. It could easily bite him in the ass in the general. The country doesn't love Bush as much as the Republicans.

Posted by: DDAWD | March 24, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

With all the reporters, cameras and microphones at the Capitol on Sunday - NOT ONE CAUGHT ANY RACIAL SLUR.


THIS HAS THE MARKINGS OF A MANUFACTURED RACIAL INCIDENT.


And - what were the Congressmen doing, walking out with the Tea Party people ???? Rarely do you see Congressmen just walking out and hanging out with the protesters - especially opposition protesters.


Seriously


This has become a pattern among the Obama people - there is Never AN ACTUAL INCIDENT - JUST AN ALLEGED INCIDENT DESIGNED TO GET SYMPATHY AND POLITICAL POINTS.


IT IS GETTING RIDICULOUS THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY IN THE GOVERNMENT


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 24, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Cheney "well liked" in the GOP?

What a slap at common-sense Republicans!

Still time to "revise and extend," CC.

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POTUS, Congress: Now do the REAL health care reform:

Stop Ongoing Bush-Cheney- Era Homeland-Led Atrocity Programs that Destroy American Lives, Livelihoods.

HOMELAND-RUN 'FUSION CENTERS' SILENTLY ASSAULT, TORTURE, IMPAIR, SUBJUGATE U.S. CITIZENS WITH CELL TOWER MICROWAVE WEAPON SYSTEM, FINANCIAL SABOTAGE, 'COMMUNITY WATCH' VIGILANTE DOMESTIC TERRORISM: VETERAN JOURNALIST

• How many thousands of Americans are silently attacked, tortured, impaired, "slow killed" each day by this covert weapon system camouflaged by cellular "communications" -- and how many operatives, agents and law enforcement officers are "authorized" to use it?

WHEN WILL CONGRESS, HIGH OBAMA OFFICIALS DEMAND THE TRUTH?

Where is the D.O.J. Civil Rights Division investigation, the congressional hearings, into this federal-local torture matrix?

http://nowpublic.com/world/u-s-silently-tortures-americans-cell-tower-microwaves
http://nowpublic.com/world/gestapo-usa-govt-funded-vigilante-network-terrorizes-america
OR NowPublic.com/scrivener RE: "GESTAPO USA" (see "stories")

Posted by: scrivener50 | March 24, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Tough call. The national security Repubs will value the Cheney endorsement more than the tea types will. So who's voting in the KY primary? How high is national security on their agenda, when compared to, say, the social/commun/fasc/terror-ist takeover of baseball, motherhood and apple pie?

More to the point, the tea people are as mad at the Bush admin for not being true fiscal conservatives as they are at the Dems (or so they say). Given that, if the tea types are the new base of the GOP, Cheney's endorsement is borderline pariah - and that's in the primary, nevermind the general.

If Paul wins the primary, can you imagine the attack ads in the general? "This guy is so nutty, even Dick Cheney endorsed his opponent."

Posted by: bsimon1 | March 24, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

I don't know how much I agree with this statement.
"Cheney is not only a well-known and well-liked figure within the Republican party "

Well known yes, but well-liked? I would bet that at least 40% of self-described republicans don't like Cheney very much. I mean when he left office his overall approval was like 20%.

Posted by: AndyR3 | March 24, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

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