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Sarah Palin's palm, House retirements abound, and a "Live Fix" sponsorship search

We spent an hour earlier today answering questions on topics ranging from former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's palm writing to what the recent spate of retirements in the House mean for the overall Congressional outlook to what coffee shop should serve as the unofficial "Live Fix" chat sponsor. (Jammin' Java in Vienna is the current frontrunner.)

If you missed it (for shame!), the full transcript is here. A few excerpts are below. And don't forget that the Fix goes live every Friday from 11 am to noon. Be there!

Q: Writing on her hand
"Palin's use of notes could be embarrassing. What if an interviewer asked what she would do as president and she read from the wrong hand? I'd pick up the dry cleaning, return library books and get milk - oops! I meant to read off of my right hand! Does she not shake hands before a speech in case the notes get rubbed off? Worse yet does she wash her hands after the bathroom?"

A: Chris Cillizza
"I think everything she does -- good and bad -- is magnified. Yes, she wrote her three 'issue' ideas on her hand. No, it didn't make for a particularly good story. But, no, it also won't change anything about her political flight path.

Palin's public image isn't likely to change in any measurable way in the coming months. If you like/love her, everything she says or does going forward will reinforce that feeling. If you dislike/hate her, ditto.

Unfortunately for Palin (at least in a general election context) there are a lot more people in the latter group than the former."

Q: Patrick Kennedy
"I did not see Patrick Kennedy's retirement coming. My amateur analyst perspective ties this to the death of his father, rather than the Coakley-Brown match. (Could anyone be moved to retire by the fate of Martha Coakley? I mean, I phonebanked for her, and I still feel no connection.) I've been thinking therefore about political fathers and sons -- Bush Jr driven to be a two-termer to make up for Bush Sr (and probably driven to be president in the first place because of who his dad was), Al Gore and Chris Dodd both giving the bulk of their adult lives to Senate service because of their dads... All I can say is, I hope Charlie Fix has a nice interesting career far far away from this city (maybe he could be a rock star AND neurosurgeon like Buckaroo Banzai?) because this over-sized father influence in political circles seems not to work out so well for the sons. [Historical note: Look at FDR's sons. Enough said.]"

A: Chris Cillizza
"I am told that Patrick Kennedy had made the decision not to run even before his father's passing.

But, yes, I agree with you that public life seemed to be something he was born into and would have been far better off avoiding.

All the people I talked to last night when writing the Kennedy retirement story, said some version of the same thing: 'Maybe he can finally be happy now.'"

Q: PA-12th
"First off, deep sympathies to U.S. Rep. John Murtha's surviving loved ones. Anything to look out for the special election for PA-12th?"

A: Chris Cillizza

"The race remains a major work in progress. I believe the special will happen on May 18 -- the same day as the state's previously scheduled primaries.

As I wrote earlier this week, that is probably a good thing for Democrats as they have the far more competitive primaries statewide, which should boost turnout and help the PA-12 nominee.

The candidates are likely to be picked at county conventions, not primaries, which raises the specter of a grassroots uprising ala NY-23 on the Republican side."

By Chris Cillizza  |  February 12, 2010; 4:44 PM ET
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"Global Warming Alarmist Professor Phil Jones - MAKES STUNNING ADMISSIONS -finally cracks up - admits there has been no warming over the past 15 years"

You're a liar, 37th. He made no such 'admission' - other than to a little untidiness.

The case for AGW remainsas firm as ever.

Posted by: strum | February 16, 2010 9:42 AM | Report abuse

NYT's Frank Rich disposes of Palin and her biggest cheerleader Broder in one column:

"This G.O.P. populism is all bunk, of course. Republicans in office now, as well as Palin during her furtive public service in Alaska, have feasted on federal pork, catered to special interests, and pursued policies indifferent to recession-battered Americans. And yet they’re getting away with their populist masquerade — not just with a considerable swath of voters but even with certain elements in the “liberal media.” The Dean of the Beltway press corps, the columnist David Broder, cited Palin’s “pitch-perfect populism” in hailing her as “a public figure at the top of her game” in Thursday’s Washington Post."

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/14/opinion/14rich.html?partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

Thank you, Mr. Rich.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 14, 2010 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Global Warming Alarmist Professor Phil Jones - MAKES STUNNING ADMISSIONS -finally cracks up - admits there has been no warming over the past 15 years


Obama has more egg on his face.


The administration can now call off Lisa Jackson and the Green Police - and all the unilateral environmental orders which Obama put in force in December.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1250872/Climategate-U-turn-Astonishment-scientist-centre-global-warming-email-row-admits-data-organised.html

Amazing - this turn-around

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 14, 2010 7:30 PM | Report abuse


I believe Obama has actually caused race relations to go backwards.


There is too much push at political correctness - the Obama people are too ready to start crying racist for relatively innocent things.


So there is a backlash - a quiet sustained one.


Perhaps it will not show up in the polls - yea if a pollster asks someone, that person will say that they are not racist.


But what is the real situation ? The false charges of racism - the crazy leftists ready to call anyone a racist over a genuine policy discussion - has poisoned race relations. People are fed up with it.


The people on this blog may be some of the worst offenders - or rather representative of what is going on out there.


Another part - Obama has probably set partisan relations back significantly as well. The very idea of parading around saying that he was going to be bipartisan, and then conducting himself the way he has is utterly pathetic.


The American people see through all of this.


The polls we see may not reflect everything that is going on in America.


I don't know if Massachusetts is representative of the whole country or not - that part of New England may be unique.


Obama is doing a horrible job - that much is clear.


Filter out all the partisan leftists - and try to get a relatively objective take on how Obama is doing and his job performance is horrible.


Ironic, if Obama had passed the health care bill, Obama's standing would probably be worse. American does not want that bill - and now it is the symbol of how out-of-touch Obama is.


I don't get how one goes from Obama's platform in 2008 - to health care, round the clock, all the time.


I don't get how a party can ignore the economy for almost a year.

I don't know however the priority agenda in Washington has been odd at best - stupid at worst.


Obama is a disaster - and I don't see anything that will indicate that anything will get any better.


Normally, at this stage, Obama would be looking for the next affirmative action program to go into - looking for another promotion to cover up the complete lack of accomplishment - or effort or anything.


Obama has never been in a position in which he had to make it work - in which things didn't go well, and he had to turn things around.


Instead, he always went on to the next affirmative action program.


Obama has become the poster child for getting rid of the affirmative action programs - they have not worked - we need to produce people with much more substance.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 14, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

If anyone else wants to discuss Nate Silver's bet (posted well before his three specific paths) or other possible routes for her to gain the nomination, let me know.

Posted by: JakeD2 | February 14, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

On the same ABC interview, Cheney really backs away from Mrs. Palin. Asked whether he would back Mrs. Palin, he says he isn't backing anyone, but whoever runs will "have to prove himself to the people".

He doesn't even say her NAME. Talk about damning with faint praise!

Posted by: 12BarBlues | February 14, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Someone here posted that Nate Silver on 538.com said that Mrs. Palin is favored to be the nominee. That is not what he said.

He said that IF Mrs. Palin followed one of three paths, she could win the nomination.

He did say this: "Conversely, Mitt Romney's paths might look something like this, and are probably somewhat more straightforward than Palin's.

Romney Plan A. Win Iowa. Win New Hampshire. Game over."

Posted by: 12BarBlues | February 14, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

They are coming out of the woodwork now. First Michael Savage says NO to Mrs. Palin. Now Dick Cheney says:

Today, during an interview on ABC’s “This Week,” none other than former Vice President Dick Cheney slammed Palin — who he reportedly had referred to as a “reckless choice” for Vice President — saying that he doesn’t think a president “can make a judgement like that on the basis of politics“.
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The dam is broken. Now, we'll see more and more Republicans coming out to just say NO to Mrs. Palin. Listen to el Rushbo and see how long until he jumps on the bandwagon.

Surely, members of the Palin Adoration League cannot be surprised that Republicans do not want to take a chance with Palin. You must have anticipated this, no?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | February 14, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Baghdad BJ. You need to lay off the kool aid. It is obviously pickling what's left of your brain.

Retching madcow doesn't have the ratings to compete in the real world. That is why they give her a sympathy spot on poofdahs show.

Rumor is krazy Keith has less than a month before his is another job NOTSaved by extreme liberalism.

Can you imagine dribbl hosting the moonbat hour? Ped could come on for balance. BJ could sport pom poms during the commercials. They would go bankrupt just like airhead America did and NBC is doing right now.

Posted by: Moonbat | February 14, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Moonbat:

Much more important than Madcow's bleating is Cheney's hammering Obama for making us unsafe (see clip on latest thread).

Posted by: JakeD2 | February 14, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: JakeD2 | February 14, 2010 12:15 PM | Report abuse

It's "Dr. Maddow" to you, bud.

The Rhodes Scholar-winning doctor was outnumbered about three to one on MTP and still came out on top. Over and over, the Good Doctor pointed out the inconsistencies and the hypocrisies of the opposition's positions, especially in regard to health care. It was really kinda embarrassing. Look for Dr. Maddow to be offered the host chair in the near future. Gregory was just taking up air space today.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 14, 2010 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Retching Madcow of msdnc today on mtp reminds me of dribbl. Her "brain" comes pre loaded with a single lefty talking point for the day, harvested from some angry hate blog.

Today it was hypocrisy. Same answer to every question. Mindless chanting. Even the newborn had a simple bumper sticker reply to quickly and easily refute the nonsense.

Poor clueless libs. Is anyone more in the dark than babbbling Joe Biden. How embarassing.

Posted by: Moonbat | February 14, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

"Sarah Palin's Father: 'Minority Types' Led Her to Quit Hawaii College
Dec. 4, 2009
Rob Kuznia -- HispanicBusiness.com

By defending the "birther" movement's right to ask about the legitimacy of President Obama's citizenship, Sarah Palin this week has inadvertently invited media scrutiny of her own brief stint in Hawaii, where she attended college for one semester before returning home.

Although Palin says in her new book "Going Rogue" that she left because the incessant sunshine was a hindrance to serious studying, her own father, Chuck Heath, was quoted in a newly released Palin biography saying she left because the minorities made her uncomfortable, the Daily Beast points out."

QED

Case closed.
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At some point, aren't Mr. Gregory Charles Royal, the President of the United States, and the "minority" residents of Hawaii due an apology from Mrs. Palin? Oh well.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 14, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse

37th:

Regarding the last question you asked, he's only 131.5 miles away ; )

Posted by: JakeD2 | February 14, 2010 9:49 AM | Report abuse

BTW 37th if you "Google" the earlier suggestion, you will find this which completely debunks the Gregory Charles Royal and Charley James claims (as I noted earlier, however, there's no use trying to reason with a Palin hater):

http://www.conservatives4palin.com/2009/07/gregory-charles-royal-continues-his.html

Posted by: JakeD2 | February 14, 2010 9:40 AM | Report abuse

For the record, if the WaPo had done a poll this far in advance of the 2008 election, more than 71% of Americans (assuming they even knew who he was) would have said that Obama was unqualified. A lot can change. 29% of 300 million is still 60 million Americans, so all things are possible for those who love God and are called to His purposes. Don't count her out just yet.

As it stands, 43% of Americans would prefer to have BUSH back in office, and he is not qualified at all (unless the 22nd Amendment is repealed). Obviously, less than 43% of all Americans (some can't or don't vote, or split the vote with another candidate) can elect a President. I predict that she will get more than that however. Obama is the worse since Carter. As I pointed out, below, Nate Silver has done the math and thinks that she will get the GOP nomination. Once a major party nominates the first female for President, even against an incumbent, all bets are off.

Posted by: JakeD2 | February 14, 2010 9:26 AM | Report abuse

@37:

Google "Palin" and "Gregory Charles Royal," then get back to me.

That the MSM gives any coverage to "candidates" who scrawl their speech notes on their palm with a Sharpie, lack sufficient short term memory to remember the last name of their debating opponent (his name is "Biden" not "O'Biden"), and refer to our Commander in Chief as "S-mbo," allegedly according to one published report, is just pathetic.

[BTW, Broder got totally slammed for his Palin puff piece in the Post published the same day the Post released a poll showing 71% of Americans think she's unqualified. Does Broder actually READ the Post? Just askin'.]

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 14, 2010 8:50 AM | Report abuse

I believe Obama has actually caused race relations to go backwards.


There is too much push at political correctness - the Obama people are too ready to start crying racist for relatively innocent things.


So there is a backlash - a quiet sustained one.


Perhaps it will not show up in the polls - yea if a pollster asks someone, that person will say that they are not racist.

But what is the real situation ? The false charges of racism - the crazy leftists ready to call anyone a racist over a genuine policy discussion - has poisoned race relations. People are fed up with it.

The people on this blog may be some of the worst offenders - or rather representative of what is going on out there.


Another part - Obama has probably set partisan relations back significantly as well. The very idea of parading around saying that he was going to be bipartisan, and then conducting himself the way he has is utterly pathetic.

The American people see through all of this.


The polls we see may not reflect everything that is going on in America.


I don't know if Massachusetts is representative of the whole country or not - that part of New England may be unique.


Obama is doing a horrible job - that much is clear.


Filter out all the partisan leftists - and try to get a relatively objective take on how Obama is doing and his job performance is horrible.


Ironic, if Obama had passed the health care bill, Obama's standing would probably be worse. American does not want that bill - and now it is the symbol of how out-of-touch Obama is.

I don't get how one goes from Obama's platform in 2008 - to health care, round the clock, all the time.


I don't get how a party can ignore the economy for almost a year.

One report said that 85% of Obama's cabinet had never been in private business - is that true - is it true that the democrats in Congress are so out-of-touch with the economy that they simply do not care about - it doesn't affect them ???


I don't know however the priority agenda in Washington has been odd at best - stupid at worst.

Obama is a disaster - and I don't see anything that will indicate that anything will get any better.


Normally, at this stage, Obama would be looking for the next affirmative action program to go into - looking for another promotion to cover up the complete lack of accomplishment - or effort or anything.


Obama has never been in a position in which he had to make it work - in which things didn't go well, and he had to turn things around.


Instead, he always went on to the next affirmative action program.

Obama has become the poster child for getting rid of the affirmative action programs - they have not worked - we need to produce people with much more substance.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 14, 2010 2:14 AM | Report abuse


There's no use trying to reason with a Palin hater.

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nor with a teenager in the throes of obsessive love

Posted by: Noacoler | February 14, 2010 1:16 AM | Report abuse

I believe the story that she was locked in the hotel room during the Convention -

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yeah the ro0bs were thicker'n sardines to see a speaker of her *stature*

"how's that hopey changey thing workin' fer ya? kerHUCK kerHUCK kerHUCK"

yeah, "stature" heh heh heh

Posted by: Noacoler | February 14, 2010 1:11 AM | Report abuse

JakeD2

You know, they should have vetted her a little more - up at the Convention, that hotel was on lock-down - no one could even go in the lobby.


I believe the story that she was locked in the hotel room during the Convention -


It was complete madness.....

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 14, 2010 12:01 AM | Report abuse

37th:

There's no use trying to reason with a Palin hater.

Posted by: JakeD2 | February 13, 2010 11:56 PM | Report abuse

Noacoler


Why don't you go take a few practice runs on the luge track ??


You live close to there, don't you?

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 13, 2010 11:53 PM | Report abuse

Noacoler writes:

Dear President Obama,

Should the conservatives' nutty ticking bomb scenario come to pass and you could save my life by torturing a prisoner, please allow that bomb to tick to zero instead, as I do not want people tortured on my behalf.

(signed)
non-f*ckwad Americans

_____________________________________

Obama writes back:


Is there anyway we can skip the whole first part ???


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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 13, 2010 11:50 PM | Report abuse

Noacoler


You go out there, get elected Governor of a State, and then get a Vice Presidential nomination, then you can get back to us with your criticism.


Until then, leave Sarah alone -


Not bad for some chick from a place you never heard of - and whose major battle was with the town librarian.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 13, 2010 11:45 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else?

Posted by: JakeD2 | February 13, 2010 11:41 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and all those outdoor speeches in temperate sunlight have taken their toll on her skin. Serious sag has set in and her borrowed time has been called. By 2012 she's going to be distinctly jowlesque and bewrinkled, and if you don't think her looks haven't been at the center of her appeal then you're deluding youself.

Picture Hillary Clinton talking Wasilla trash and see if you feel the same.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 13, 2010 11:26 PM | Report abuse

Gov. Palin writing three 'issue' ideas on her hand won't change anything about her political flight path. Nate Silver has looked at the numbers and thinks she will get the GOP nomination, notwithstanding her haters.

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Aho, so that's what they are.  Haters.  Meaning 52% of Republicans suffer from irrational hatred of the hockey mom.  Gotcha.  And 71% of voters.   
If the GOP gives her the nomination they're as batty as their conspiracy-nurturing base.  As crazy as you with your batsh*t Muslim non-citizen canard.  It's pure suicide.  Those 71% aren't going to change their minds.  It doesn't happen, and she has no surprises in store.  We've seen the whole shabby act.  So, no, she's not going to get the nomination, and certainly not the presidency.

And if by some fluke (read: the assassination you "pray" for daily) she did get elected, there'd be one HELL of a lot of new expatriates until she sealed the borders and launched the nukes.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 13, 2010 11:18 PM | Report abuse

Back on topic:

Gov. Palin writing three 'issue' ideas on her hand won't change anything about her political flight path. Nate Silver has looked at the numbers and thinks she will get the GOP nomination, notwithstanding her haters.

Posted by: JakeD2 | February 13, 2010 11:06 PM | Report abuse

Jake, what is your understanding of the purpose of quotation marks? You seen to have missed an awful lot of school.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 13, 2010 11:03 PM | Report abuse

37th:

That's your 2009 Nobel "Peace" Prize winner for you.

Posted by: JakeD2 | February 13, 2010 10:59 PM | Report abuse

Dear President Obama,

Should the conservatives' nutty ticking bomb scenario come to pass and you could save my life by torturing a prisoner, please allow that bomb to tick to zero instead, as I do not want people tortured on my behalf.

(signed)
non-f*ckwad Americans

Posted by: Noacoler | February 13, 2010 10:58 PM | Report abuse

I'll think about it when you stop double spacing and stop repeating your posts. And before you repeat the same thick rejoinder, I stopped watching TV because of the commercials, decades ago.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 13, 2010 10:52 PM | Report abuse

Noacoler


Obama is not interogating anyone - he either reads them their rights or kills them outright.


No intelligence - both yielding no intelligence and no intelligence in the decision making.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 13, 2010 10:51 PM | Report abuse

Noacoler


Read what I wrote - it is clear.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 13, 2010 10:46 PM | Report abuse

You say you want Obama to be hard on terror but when he is you whine about loss of intelligence through torture. Make up your...

Oh! Never mind.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 13, 2010 10:23 PM | Report abuse

Washington Post Sunday is reporting that Obama, in order to reduce torturing of terrorists, is instead opting to kill the terrorists without capturing - resulting in a loss of intelligence.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/13/AR2010021303748.html?hpid=topnews


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It probably will not be productive attempting to make sense of Obama's policies - on one hand, he is killing the terrorists before capture -


On the other end of the scale, Obama wants to have trials and give the terrorist civil rights - risking that motions from left-wing lawyers will release the terrorists to kill again.


I have to point out that from a humanitarian point of view, capture is probably the best, because of the potential to reduce casualties of nearby innocent parties.


Usually in kill situations, nearby people get killed or pulverized.


In the worst case situations, people are killed and the target is not there -


If a capture is ordered, and the wrong person is picked up, the mistake can be easily reversed by releasing them.

So, it just appears that Obama, in his childish desire to show that he is smarter than Bush, has decided in every case to do something different from Bush - and has gone for less desirable policies.

Is there really clear decision making at the root of all of this - or simply arrogance - the desire to somehow show that the liberals know better, when in fact they do not.


Is arrogance driving all of these policies ?


Clearly, the national security is not better off.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 13, 2010 10:22 PM | Report abuse

Noacoler


I have no idea what point you are referring to - or even the point you are trying to make in response.


Maybe you can try again.


also please reduce the use of the words "swine" "filth" and "garbage" in favor of exactly what you are referring to - just for clarity sake.

Posted by: 37thand0street | February 13, 2010 10:13 PM | Report abuse

Washington Post Sunday is reporting that Obama, in order to reduce torturing of terrorists, is instead opting to kill the terrorists without capturing - resulting in a loss of intelligence.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/13/AR2010021303748.html?hpid=topnews

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 13, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

I'm glad Obama is displeasing the filth on "terror.". Bush tried "hard on terror" and managed to turn a harmless secular dictatorship into a terrorist recruiting zone.

What would make you happy, 37th? Checkpoints on the freeway? A few nukes on Tehran? Another few hundred billion to those right wing swine in Israel? Rounding up Muslim Americans? What a rotten piece of garbage you are.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 13, 2010 10:03 PM | Report abuse

JakeD2


I just hope no one dies from all of Obama's "soft on terror" policies - Obama is being so arrogant with national security - we all know how that ends.

I was amazed to find out that Obama delegated much of the responsibility in getting health care through Congress.


What I don't get is: If Obama really wasn't doing health care last year, then what was he doing ???


Obama really has no idea what he is doing, the nation is slowly coming to that realization.

Nancy Pelosi is already sick of Obama.


Harry Reid is not even respecting agreement which the White House negotiates out.

So what is going on in Washington ???


These three should be working together, but apparently the can't even stand to be in the same room together.

This is your democratic party, that the democrats worked so hard and long to get into office - when will the democrats realize that their leaders have failed them.


I guess part of the problem is the democrats have been so hostile towards the "old boy's club."


At least the "old boy's club" could get along - and you always knew they were working together - even if it was in some sinister way, you could always have confidence the country was better off.

Now, we have a bunch of jokers in place who don't even know what is best for themselves, much less the country.


This is the government you have given us, you democrats.

I hope you wake up at night wondering how irresponsible and stupid you could have been.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 13, 2010 9:15 PM | Report abuse

Cheney is coming on tomorrow - the original guy who said it was unpatriotic to oppose his views.


One reason no one is taking Obama seriously is that he is just being a copy-cat to Cheney on this issue.

With all of Obama's arrogance and pretense to intelligence, taking plays from Cheney just doesn't cut it.

With all of Obama's talk, Obama has to come up with his own material - and when he doesn't, it just looks like Obama has nothing.

I guess Obama is comfortable for now having Brennan go out there with a bunch of statements which basically call Obama's presidential campaign unpatriotic. It is fitting that now Obama's head is spinning so fast, he can no longer even identify irony.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 13, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Forgive them, 37th, for they know not what they are doing.

Posted by: JakeD2 | February 13, 2010 8:56 PM | Report abuse

@Noacoler,

How can you take his name in vain, Ronald "Holy be His Blessed Name" Reagan.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | February 13, 2010 8:06 PM | Report abuse

At least Ronald Reagan is dead this time around. SWEET that he was reduced to a vegetable before he shuffled off.

At least Murtha died whole.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 13, 2010 7:55 PM | Report abuse

At least Ronald Reagan is dead this time around. SWEET that he was reduced to a vegetable before he shuffled off.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 13, 2010 7:47 PM | Report abuse


JakeD2

I really can not believe that the mainstream media did not pick up more on the implications of Brennan's statements - Brennan basically called Obama anti-American.

I guess the reason that the press does not report such things is that half of America already believes Obama is anti-American, and the other half has fits when they think about how bad a choice they made.

However, it is astonishing for one of Obama's campaign themes to be so harshly described by Brennan.

I have stated several times - and I'll say it again to be clear - I don't believe it was right for Obama to send Brennan out to do Obama's partisan work.

I think that is one reason Brennan isn't taking more heat for his remarks - the assignment was highly improper for someone in his position.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 13, 2010 7:29 PM | Report abuse

At least John Murtha is dead this time around.

Posted by: JakeD2 | February 13, 2010 6:51 PM | Report abuse

JakeD2

Yes, we mentioned that in another posting -


Brennan's statements would logically also apply to Obama's stances over the 4 years before Obama took office.

So the White House sent Brennan out to call Obama unpatriotic -

AND Brennan basically called Obama's presidential campaign anti-American.

No word out yet on what Brennan says about Michele Obama.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 13, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

37th:

Fact of the matter is the Dems WERE unpatriotic trying to lose the war for political reasons. The GOP are still trying to win this war with little to no help from Dems. FDR and Truman are rolling over in their graves.

Posted by: JakeD2 | February 13, 2010 6:43 PM | Report abuse

The truth is that Obama is putting our national security at risk -


And then he sends out his deputy national security officer Brennan to go out and call Obama's critics unpatriotic.


What could be more unpatriotic than risking American lives with "soft on terror" policies as Obama has done.

If Obama was a real man, he would do his own dirty work and make these comments himself.

But he isn't.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 13, 2010 6:24 PM | Report abuse

The truth is that Obama is putting our national security at risk -


And then he sends out his deputy national security officer Brennan to go out and call Obama's critics unpatriotic.


What could be more unpatriotic than risking American lives with a "soft on terror" policies as Obama has done.

If Obama was a real man, he would do his own dirty work and make these comments himself.

But he isn't.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 13, 2010 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Patrick Kennedy is going to announce it was all a Brett Favre joke


Some set-up for a joke.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 13, 2010 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Armpeg seems to have the gift of supernatural vision to be able to see the complexions of Noacoler and Broadway. He was probably looking deeply into his crystal palm.

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he thinks he's cute, calling liberals racists in the same post he refers to Obama as "tribal," presumably with a bone through his nose. Armpeg seems to have MAJOR emotional problems, you can feel the spit spray in every post.

Bet his family is REAL proud.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 13, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

No it's not bizarre. It's simple. Republicans are liars.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 13, 2010 5:44 PM | Report abuse

It's just strange how the Republicans feel the need to validate themselves on the internet. One guy is a top Stanford lawyer, one guy is a world famous economist with three yachts and two harems of buxom blonds. One guy was in the Marines.

I dunno, it's just bizarre.

Posted by: DDAWD | February 13, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

armpeg's thing is that he pretends to have been in the Marines.

Posted by: DDAWD | February 13, 2010 4:48 PM
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He does?

Armpeg seems to make a big distinction between being "charged" with a crime and "knowing the facts". Sounded kinda legal to me, you know? Thought maybe he was like "associated" with other legal eagles on our blog.

Armpeg seems to have the gift of supernatural vision to be able to see the complexions of Noacoler and Broadway. He was probably looking deeply into his crystal palm.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | February 13, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Why do the people spend so much time talking about how unqualified Sarah Palin is - when it is Obama who is unqualified ????


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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 13, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

"You guys are positively dark, that's the deal. Armpeg has got you guys "pegged". Probably went to the same lawschool as others on this blog.

Posted by: 12BarBlues"

armpeg's thing is that he pretends to have been in the Marines.

Posted by: DDAWD | February 13, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

As fun as this has been, can I briefly change the subject. Turns out that Wellpoint and its subs have done the 30-40% increases in 4 states, and other carriers are following suit.

Having had a wee bit of business experience, whenever an industry starts raising prices because they are losing customers, that industry is in the final stages of imploding. That is the very definition of an unsustainable business model.

Anybody have an thoughts to contribute? Does this mean that the individual market is dying?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | February 13, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Got it, 12Bar [wink, wink].

Posted by: drindl | February 13, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

@drindl,

You just don't understand. Savage is just putting her down as some kind of clever ploy to ACTUALLY get her nominated in order to FAKE OUT the Democrats who ACTUALLY don't understand what is really going on and that liberals ACTUALLY don't want everyone to know or catch on to their communist fascist ploys to take over this wonderful U.S. of A.

This is not my opinion. These are FACTS.

Get it?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | February 13, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

This week, far-right radio host Michael Savage voiced some of these GOP complaints, saying that the Party would essentially be committing “suicide” if it made Palin its 2012 nominee:

'If you want Obama for a second term, just make sure that Sarah Palin is the Republican nominee. … And I am telling you, that if they make that idiotic mistake of pushing her as their lead candidate, it’s over; Obama will get a second term, no matter how bad his presidency has been. That’s my opinion.

She’s not electable as president. She doesn’t have…the gravitas. He doesn’t either. That doesn’t mean — She’s not the right person. We need a businessman. We need someone with guts, preferably someone who’s served in the military. That means we have nobody. And please don’t tell me about Mr. Brown. God! Please! I warned you!'

Posted by: drindl | February 13, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

"On Thursday, a Washington Post-ABC News poll had some bad news for Sarah Palin: 71 percent of the American public — including 52 percent of Republicans — don’t think the former Alaska governor is qualified to be president. This week, far-right radio host Michael Savage voiced some of these GOP complaints, saying that the Party would essentially be committing “suicide” if it made Palin its 2012 nominee:

'If you want Obama for a second term, just make sure that Sarah Palin is the Republican nominee. … And I am telling you, that if they make that idiotic mistake of pushing her as their lead candidate, it’s over; Obama will get a second term, no matter how bad his presidency has been. That’s my opinion. It’s one man’s opinion. It doesn’t mean I don’t agree with her politically. It doesn’t mean I think she’s a bad person.

She’s not electable as president. She doesn’t have…the gravitas. He doesn’t either. That doesn’t mean — She’s not the right person. We need a businessman. We need someone with guts, preferably someone who’s served in the military. That means we have nobody. And please don’t tell me about Mr. Brown. God! Please! I warned you! Don’t Obama-size these guys.

It’s ironic that Savage criticizes Palin for not being a “businessman,” considering that that line is a frequent attack she throws at Democrats. In her recent speech to the National Tea Party convention, she cited her experience with Todd’s “commercial fishing business” as evidence that she knows how to “tighten our belts” and “cut back budgets” — unlike the politicians in Washington.

Savage also went after Palin’s arrangement with Fox News, saying that it was unethical and disingenuous:

You know what disturbs me? This is the part that worries me a little bit. She went to work for Fox News, and at the same time, she’s fundamentally running for the presidency. At the same time. I mean, the last I checked, you can’t do that. The last I checked is that you have to leave a media job in order to announce your candidacy. What is this? You can’t have it both ways. Either you’re running, or you’re not. Don’t play a game with the American people. We’re not stupid."

Posted by: drindl | February 13, 2010 3:59 PM | Report abuse

'At a time of deepening political disaffection and intensified distress about the economy, President Obama enjoys an edge over Republicans in the battle for public support, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News poll.

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One of the greatest obstacles to passing progressive legislation in Congress has been the use of the filibuster in the Senate. With upwards of “40 cloture votes since the start of the 111th Congress in January, this Senate is on pace to record the second-largest number of filibuster roll calls,” transforming what was intended to be a seldom-used procedural tactic into an all-out tool for obstructionism. Now, a new CBS/New York Times poll finds that the majority of Americans support ending the filibuster and requiring legislation to pass by a simple majority:

As you may know, the Senate operates under procedures that effectively require 60 votes, out of 100, for most legislation to pass, allowing a minority of as few as 41 senators to block a majority. Do you think this procedure should remain in place, or do you think it should be changed so that legislation is passed with a simple majority?

Should remain 44 Should be changed 50 [Don't Know] 6'


http://documents.nytimes.com/new-york-times-cbs-news-poll#

Posted by: drindl | February 13, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

12BarBlues
No, I didn't go to law school. There's no need to go to law school to "peg" a couple of racists like Noacoler and broadwayjoe. All you need is a little common sense.
I play the ponies though, but I never sat on one or fell off of one, as you obviously did. Hit your head, did you?

Posted by: armpeg | February 13, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

The lack of honesty on the part of the press and the lack of Obama sticking to his campaign themes will make Obama's fall strikingly quick and dramatic.


I would like to argue that if the press was more forward about Rev. Wright's Church, the public would not be so angry now.


AND Obama was way over the top with his campaign themes.


The country is angry - and they want this disaster to end as fast as possible.

Less than 3 years to go before Obama is out of office - AMERICA CAN NOT WAIT.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 13, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

12BarBlues


what is the story with your name - do you go to 12 bars in a pub crawl ???


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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 13, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

@ Noa and broadwayjoe

armpeg wrote: Look in a mirror Noacoler and broadwayjoe, and you'll see the real racists and haters.
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Oooooooooooooooooh...I finally get it. Boy am I dumb. Spent too much time on horses.

You guys are positively dark, that's the deal. Armpeg has got you guys "pegged". Probably went to the same lawschool as others on this blog.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | February 13, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

12, regarding his slamming of Mrs. Palin, Savage's take was must-hear radio.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 13, 2010 2:43 PM
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Heads up, everyone. Be the first to hear Michael Savage-On-Palin, must-hear radio.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmPyNhOgz6g&feature=player_embedded
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Keep the link alive!

Posted by: 12BarBlues | February 13, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

43% of Americans believe that Obama should flee the country rather than finish out his term.

36% support Obama's handling of health care.


35% support Obama's handling of the economy.

That is what happens when the democrats are so IRRESPONSIBLE with the country that they elect someone who has no business or economic experience except for buying cocaine.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 13, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Noacoler


When did you get out of jail?

They should put you in a cell with broadwayjoe and make you two talk to each other, everyday, every week, every year until you die.


Now that would be fitting punishment.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 13, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Shut up armpeg you drooling cigarette-smoking hick

Posted by: Noacoler | February 13, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

BWJ: if you're reading 37 posts you need to amp up your time management skills. He has the brains of a grasshopper.

And the maturity of a toddler, posting the same drool in every thread just like Jake.

I shave my face and head in the steamroom at the gym, saving like 10 minutes every day, enough saved time to get through one or two extra physics texts every year. Time management.

Just PgUp.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 13, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Noacoler writes: "Nobody answers you idiot charge because they can see that you're an immature hick"

Obvious conclusion.

1-Our resident racist Noacoler can't put a coherent sentence together--'Nobody answers you idiot charge' ? What's that, ghetto-speak?
2-Anyone with an ounce of rational comprehension of the English language that read my earlier comment, re. Obama's white and America--hating past, knows that I wasn't charge(ing) Obama with anything. To "charge" someone is to accuse him of something that he may OR MAY NOT have done. What I did in my earlier comment was to present irrefutable FACTS, facts that anyone can look up, including in Obama's own book. Anyone can buy copies of Jerimiah Wright Jr.'s sermons at Trinity UFCC's front office and see and hear for himself what kind of racist white and America--haters Obama supported; anyone can check Obama's history on the net while he was in college and in Chicago, where he assocciated with Communists, and white and America--haters, and anyone can check Obama's fund-raising activities on Louis Farrakhan's behalf, and all the rest. None of this was made up, they're all irrefutable FACTS.
All these irrefutable facts obviously though mean nothing to the black racists like Noacoler and broadwayjoe in their quest to cover up Barack Obama's vile and racist past. To them, all that matters is protecting a tribal member from any fallout that might damage Obama's political career.
Look in a mirror Noacoler and broadwayjoe, and you'll see the real racists and haters.

Posted by: armpeg | February 13, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

37, based on your recent ridiculous posts, your comments are, as Reverend Wright might say, invalidated.

34, 35, 36, __, 38, 39...

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 13, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

12, regarding his slamming of Mrs. Palin, Savage's take was must-hear radio.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 13, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse


broadwayjoe:


First, the guy says that the woman was named Sarah, but he really at first thought she had a different last name.


You make it seem like married white women have an obligation to sleep with black men.


You are an extremely sick person


And you have no morality.


When did you get out of jail?

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 13, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

The speech Obama gave in Philadelphia during the primaries was a complete disgrace.


The media dropped the ball, and they should go back and review what they did.

Obama should have been honest to the country about the white-hating nature of his own Church - and been specific about what the Church stood for - and what Obama thought.

Obama NEVER said that he was against the white-hating nature of the Church.

IN FACT Obama backed up Rev. Wright for weeks.

broadwayjoe - you and your pals all belong in jail.

It is about time

So don't give us your Sarah-Palin hate - it is so silly and hypocritical.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 13, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Obama seeking to maximize his unilateral power - key signal of a socialist to impose one's will on an unwilling population:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/13/us/politics/13obama.html

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 13, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

@noacoler and broadwayjoe,

Our opinion of Mrs. Palin is now shared by Michael Savage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmPyNhOgz6g&feature=player_embedded

Watch it, it's worth it!

I hate to agree with Michael Savage about anything, but there it is.

All the Palin Adoration League can turn their Christian rage on Savage cursing him straight into hell.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | February 13, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe:


First, the guy says that the woman was named Sarah, but he really at first thought she had a different last name.


You make it seem like married white women have an obligation to sleep with black men.

You are an extremely sick person


And you have no morality.

When did you get out of jail?

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 13, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe


Would you please stop LYING - you know perfectly well what Rev. Wright's church was RACIST - so stop lying.


Can the American people have an apology from you and Obama???


And stop talking about stupid made-up stories

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 13, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, noa and 12, I think we're done here. :)

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 13, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse

a-pit, the charges against BHO you reference have either been discredited or are irrelevant (who cares about Reverend Wright?--he's not running for anything). By contrast, the information regarding Mrs. Palin has been publicly reported by journalists and, to our knowledge, has not been challenged by her. Don't you think she owes the President and Gregory Charles Royal an personal apology at the very least?

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 13, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

nobody answers you idiot charge because they can see that you're an immature hick.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 13, 2010 1:53 PM
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LOL. Other charges we don't answer:

Bush administration flew planes into the WTC.
Obama was born somewhere else.
Satellites are actually fighting an intergalactic war but they just don't want us to know.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | February 13, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Notice that the two racists Noacoler and broadwayjoe never dispute any of the facts re. Barack Obama's racist white and America--hating past.

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nobody answers you idiot charge because they can see that you're an immature hick.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 13, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

It is about time the American people realize the full implications of what the democrats did with the "stimulus" bill last year.


The democrats have not taken the recession seriously.

Instead they went off and diverted the stimulus fund to a whole bunch of democratic special interest programs.

AND then Obama went off to work on health care.


Obama is a horrible failure - his job performance is a complete joke. It makes sense when you hire someone with little experience and who has none virtually nothing in his life.

Blame the democrats for that.


The democrats have been EXTREMELY IRRESPONSIBLE WITH THIS COUNTRY - the democrats are prolonging the recession.


We need to get someone in there with economic and business experience.

HOW HARD IS THAT ???? Apparently so hard the democrats don't get it.


AND you have democratic Congressmen on Chris Matthews claiming they are doing a good job.


HOW OUT-OF-TOUCH CAN YOU BE ???

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 13, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

armpeg

The mainstream media wouldn't even report on the racist things that were on Rev. Wright's website -


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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 13, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Notice that the two racists Noacoler and broadwayjoe never dispute any of the facts re. Barack Obama's racist white and America--hating past.
Reason? They can't because Obama's racist white and America--hating history, and his friendship and close assocciations with white and America--haters is a matter of record. All they're left with is the old race card gambit, were they accuse others of being the racists.
The tribal members gotta stick together, right Noacoler and broadwayjoe?

Posted by: armpeg | February 13, 2010 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Yesterday evening on the PBS News Hour I saw CC together with Andrew Kohut (of Pew).

Well maybe it is just the HD, which sure is unforgiving and therefore unflattering, but Kohut looked like a street person. Watery exopthalmos, oily hair (too many from behind camera angles), a nasty "blazer" Value Village would reject...Chris on the other hand, looked so DuPont Circle.

And you know what? Chris made a lot of sense. He seemed so well balanced. Pure analysis, no filler remarks, a font of information. Kohut was always circling his point. Not Chris, bright and crisp.

But Chris, upping both eyebrows to the middle does give the earnest school-boy touch, but Woody Allen chatting up an under-aged mark also comes to mind.


Posted by: shrink2 | February 13, 2010 11:06 AM | Report abuse

SPECIAL TO CHRIS MATTHEWS (msnbc'ers, please forward):

As a regular viewer of your program, I never heard you sound as ignorant and ill-informed as you did on Friday evening, with your flippant commentary about a legislative proposal to ban the involuntary microchipping of U.S. citizens.

Are you the same Chris Matthews who did a cameo in that Robin Williams movie, "The Man of the Year," the plot line of which warned about the political and social ramifications of the misuse of technology?

Chris, please read this comprehensive article from the Electronic Privacy Information Center, link below. Then read the articles, also linked below, by this veteran journalist.

Please do your homework. You've got me wondering what's happened to the Chris Matthews of old. Perhaps a clarification on Monday's show is in order? It would help me regain my trust in your judgments and opinions. Thank you.

epic.org/privacy/nano/
http://nowpublic.com/world/u-s-silently-tortures-americans-cell-tower-microwaves
http://nowpublic.com/world/gestapo-usa-govt-funded-vigilante-network-terrorizes-america
OR NowPublic.com/scrivener (see "stories" list) OR www.poynter.org/subject.asp?id=2

Posted by: scrivener50 | February 13, 2010 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Bloomberg's Mike Reilly on the urgent need for Obama to be Obama or risk a Palinista presidency in 2012.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&sid=a4hIeftRVyvE

And this from Doug Wilder earlier:

"Some are even questioning whether Obama has forgotten how he got elected and the promises he made to the people who elected him.

Don't take my word for any of this. Look at the clear message the American people have been sending at the polls these past few months.

In my native Virginia, voters went to the polls and turned the Democrats out of the Executive Mansion with more votes and by a higher percentage than had ever happened since we ended one-party government rule 50 years ago. I told the president that this could very well happen and did not support his candidate.


Indeed, even before Bob McDonnell’s resounding victory, the canary had been dead on the floor for months. In Virginia's most Democratic-friendly regions, the Democrats had been narrowly winning — or outright losing — special elections that should have been taken easily."

http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=B418B022-18FE-70B2-A8EE978D684354B2

We think the 2012 threat will likely come from Scott Brown or Bob McDonnell rather than Palin but their central point is valid: let Obama be Obama. The rope a dope/triangulation strategy is not working.
Mr. Wilder called the McDonnell/Deeds race, correctly, long before anyone else did. 44 should listen to him.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 13, 2010 9:52 AM | Report abuse

Politics without justice is just bread and circuses for the masses, and a make-work program for a naive and compliant national press corps.

Why won't White House and Pentagon reporters ask the right questions about this?

SECRET HOMELAND PROGRAM SILENTLY IRRADIATES THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS WITH HARMFUL MICROWAVES FROM CELL TOWER WEAPON SYSTEM: VETERAN JOURNALIST

• Regional Homeland Security- administered fusion centers use a nationwide microwave/laser electromagnetic microwave/laser weapon system to silently torture, impair, neurologically and physically subjugate citizens deemed to be dissidents or undesirables -- an American genocide hiding in plain sight.

Financial sabotage, police-protected community "watch" vigilante harassment, warrantless GPS stalking of thousands of extrajudicially "targeted" citizens and entire families.

• Victims' own cell phones may be used to target them for silent impairment.

• How a young FBI agent's "I believe you" gave victim the faith to go public.

JOURNALIST EXPOSING SILENT GOV'T MICROWAVE CELL TOWER TORTURE HELD HOSTAGE TO A NATIONWIDE, POLICE-PROTECTED 'COMMUNITY WATCH' GESTAPO

• Bucks County, PA- based MAGLOCLEN fusion center: "Mid-Atlantic States Ground Zero of a Multi-Agency Federal-Local American Gestapo"

• When will Obama administration stop covering up -- and act to restore the rule of law?

http://nowpublic.com/world/u-s-silently-tortures-americans-cell-tower-microwaves
http://nowpublic.com/world/gestapo-usa-govt-funded-vigilante-network-terrorizes-america
www.poynter.org/subject.asp?id=2 OR NowPublic.com/scrivener ("stories" list)

Posted by: scrivener50 | February 13, 2010 9:45 AM | Report abuse

"re. Noacoler: "(Sarah Palin) is a hateful woman with a lot of experience arousing people exactly like herself".

[Unhinged r-cist stuff in the middle omitted]

Posted by: armpeg | February 13, 2010 1:56 AM"
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Just shortened it up a bit. All the best.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 13, 2010 9:17 AM | Report abuse

"Anyone who has read "Going Rogue" knows that she doesn't "hate" anyone, even Steve Schmidt.

Posted by: JakeD2 | February 13, 2010 8:23 AM"
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Jake, that was a grooved fastball down the middle. Journalist Charley James might disagree with you. Pow! Back. Back. Back. Gone.

http://www.laprogressive.com/election-reform-campaigns/alaskans-speak-in-a-frightened-whisper-palin-is-%E2%80%9Cracist-sexist-vindictive-and-mean%E2%80%9D/

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 13, 2010 9:07 AM | Report abuse

Anyone who has read "Going Rogue" knows that she doesn't "hate" anyone, even Steve Schmidt.

Posted by: JakeD2 | February 13, 2010 8:23 AM | Report abuse

shut up armpeg, you drooling hick

Posted by: Noacoler | February 13, 2010 2:04 AM | Report abuse

re. Noacoler: "(Sarah Palin) is a hateful woman with a lot of experience arousing people exactly like herself".

Look who's talking about hating people.

Noacoler, who is always defending his tribal member Barack Obama because he obviously shares his skin color, is using the hateful person gambit to try to demean Sarah Palin with it, yet the person he's always defending has probably the worst history of being a hater.
Barack Obama has had a history of hating white people and hating America since his college days. His friends, mentors, and assocciates have all been either racist white--haters, America--haters, or both for all of his adult life. In college his friends and mentors included racist white and America--haters James Combs, Frank Marshall Davies, and Paul Robeson. In Chicago his friends are America--haters and American--terrorists Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorhn. He then also joins a racist white--hating and America--hating cult (laughably called 'church') Trinity UFCC, where he stays attending services every Sunday (his claim) for over 20 years, listening and applauding the racist rantings and vile sermons of Jerimiah Wright Jr. While there he schoozes and ingratiates himself with Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, one of the most racist, anti-Semitic, and white and America--haters on the planet, who he supports and once raised money for, to meet Mohemar Quadafy, who was then listed as a terrorist for orchestrating the Lockerbee civilian airline bombing ( as payback for Obama's loyaly, friendship, and support, Louis Farrakhan for the first time ever endorsed Barack Obama for president and worked in his behalf to get him elected in the Muslim community).
The fact is that it's Noacoler and the 97% of all of his and Obama's tribal members who supported this guy, and still support him at every turn no matter what, are the true racists and haters.
Just imagine what these, now crocodile tear crying con-artists who are accusing Sarah Palin with the hater label would do had Sarah Palin had had a similar history attending regular weekly KKK meetings for 20 years listening and applauding sermons hatefull to blacks, and accociating with known black people haters.
Look in the mirror Noacoler, and you'll see the real hater and racist.

Posted by: armpeg | February 13, 2010 1:56 AM | Report abuse

As for the "father -son" combo, I just read that Dan Quile his son will be running for Congress. Good luck! We fondly remember the father who was partly responsible for George bush the First being a one-term president.

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honestly I think you can find any number of much more deserving targets if ridicule than Dan Quayle. Yeah he's a taxcuttet and signed PNAC but he's been a lot more virtuous in his private life than the bloody hillbillies in the GOP today. I say he took enough ridicule when he was VP.

Dig up his concession speech in 1992 and I wager you'll agree.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 13, 2010 1:51 AM | Report abuse

BENTONVILLE, AR—Retail giant Wal-Mart has announced in recent weeks that, effective immediately, it is cutting as many as 13,000 of what it somehow has the audacity to refer to as "jobs" from its corporate payroll.

According to Wal-Mart representatives, the, for lack of a better word, positions will be cut from the company's underperforming Sam's Club division. Analysts reported that Monday's layoffs marked one of the largest so-called downsizings of what can hardly even be termed employment in the company's history.

"Obviously, it is a sad day whenever we have to let go of any of the people we have dehumanized so thoroughly that we can barely muster the will to describe them as employees," Wal-Mart CEO Mike Duke told reporters. "However, this is a business, and we must do what we can to stay competitive while still paying our existing workforce what we actually refer to with a straight face as wages."

http://tinyurl.com/yegvp6s

Posted by: Noacoler | February 13, 2010 1:41 AM | Report abuse

As for the "father -son" combo, I just read that Dan Quile his son will be running for Congress. Good luck! We fondly remember the father who was partly responsible for George bush the First being a one-term president.

Posted by: Opa2 | February 13, 2010 1:40 AM | Report abuse

43% of Americans say they would rather see Obama flee the country than wait for his term to end.


Obama's approval rating on his handling of health care is at 36%.


Obama's approval rating on the economy is 35%


Thank you broadwayjoe for bringing this to our attention.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 13, 2010 1:23 AM | Report abuse

Jammin Java should be the subtitle for the Fix

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 13, 2010 1:18 AM | Report abuse

Noacoler


You would hate a puppy on the 4th of July


Be real

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 13, 2010 1:17 AM | Report abuse

Cue zouk saying I envy her. Predictable as sunrise.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 13, 2010 1:09 AM | Report abuse

Yeah 37th you're a regular Pollyanna sticking daffodils in rifle barrels. Peace love Woodstock.

I'm not. I don't hate a lot of people but I do hate Sarah Palin, you betcha. So would you if you had any morals.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 13, 2010 1:06 AM | Report abuse

You crack me up, zouk. Mibrooks was right, you are funny. Especially when you're trying to cause pain; you so overdo it that you end up sounding like some nasty little Cruikshank kid squatting in the corner muttering evilly. You just don't know how to pull it off.

Typical Republican, unable to keep from short circuiting by going too far.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 13, 2010 1:03 AM | Report abuse

I love small animals.

However, you are a hater - a Sarah-hater.


I don't hate anyone. I love everyone.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 13, 2010 1:01 AM | Report abuse

Get real, 37th. Hate and mockery and derision is all she does. She never has anything positive to say about anything unless it's a backhanded swipe at something else.

The reason I hate her is her attitude toward animals. Matter if fact I want to see a genalysis before I concede she's even human. I gave doubts.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 13, 2010 12:47 AM | Report abuse

Poor lonely Ped.

Posted by: Moonbat | February 13, 2010 12:46 AM | Report abuse

Poor lonely Ped.

Posted by: Moonbat | February 13, 2010 12:46 AM | Report abuse

43% of Americans say they would rather see Obama flee the country than wait for his term to end.


Obama's approval rating on his handling of health care is at 36%.


Obama's approval rating on the economy is 35%


Thank you broadwayjoe for bringing this to our attention.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 13, 2010 12:38 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin doesn't hate anyone

THAT is why you hate her.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 13, 2010 12:32 AM | Report abuse

Pay attention, Cillizza, do you really want to end up like Broder? So lost in space that you're no longer capable of reasonable judgment? You're starting to sound like him already, unable to distinguish popularity from quality.

On the one hand. On the other hand.

He said. She said.

Example: Palin isn't a sound bite genius, she's a hateful woman with a lot of experience arousing people exactly like herself. Join the 71% who allow themselves clear vision.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 13, 2010 12:01 AM | Report abuse

Could it be any more obvious?

Jake's fascination with the Tramp of the Tundra isn't ideological affiliation, it's adolescent infatuation. A schoolboy in love for the first time. Awwwww, isn't it adorable, wait'll he gets jaded by a real relationship with a real woman.

Abe Lincoln never gave birth? I'll get a headache trying to figure what that has to do with anything. Do you visualize her grimacing and straining and pushing, Jake? With yourself as Todd, murmuring encouragement? Do you fantasize about being married to that cretin?

Racist jerk.

Posted by: Noacoler | February 12, 2010 11:41 PM | Report abuse

I'll post later on the official thread, but I heartily second Jammin' Java as the new Fix chat home. Their coffee is terrific. Also, considering taking Charlie Fix to a show at the right point. We've taken Primo and Secondo out to see Billy Jonas (twice) as well as The Great Zucchini.

Heck, I'm seeing that Banjo Man is perform Friday mornings at 10:30. Fun for the entire Fix family!

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | February 12, 2010 8:45 PM | Report abuse

lol@trying to have a discussion with jaked. How dumb can you be?

Posted by: DDAWD | February 12, 2010 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Jake: Abe Lincoln did not write the Gettysburg Address on his hand with a Sharpie. Gimme a Break! Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 12, 2010 6:05 PM

The Gettysburg Address scribbled on anything would be prose of the highest order. Palin's notes on her hand? They might just have well have been these deathless words:

sugar

whole milk

bagels

Posted by: margaretmeyers | February 12, 2010 8:09 PM | Report abuse

which story?

Posted by: elijah24 | February 12, 2010 8:07 PM | Report abuse

11:17 AM

Posted by: JakeD2 | February 12, 2010 8:04 PM | Report abuse

No Jake. I'm not seeing anything from either of them saying that Trig isn't Sarah Palin's son. what was the time of the post?

Posted by: elijah24 | February 12, 2010 8:02 PM | Report abuse

In fact, to our knowledge, the only policy statement she has made was her comment to...Gregory Charles Royal. Sad. Hate is not a family value.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 12, 2010 7:53 PM | Report abuse

You see who I am talking about, elijah24?

Posted by: JakeD2 | February 12, 2010 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Ask Gregory Charles Royal.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 12, 2010 7:48 PM | Report abuse

"Nobody with a functioning brain thinks Trig is not her son."

drindl and Noacoler, did you hear that at least?

Posted by: JakeD2 | February 12, 2010 7:44 PM | Report abuse

armpeg:

It is curious, don't you think, that anyone who could actually testify in a court of law as to Obama's birthplace is dead or out of the country?

Posted by: JakeD2 | February 12, 2010 7:38 PM | Report abuse

JakeD2
Saw it.
I bet Barack Obama would need a Tele Promter just to be able to remember these 2 words if he had to.

Posted by: armpeg | February 12, 2010 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Except for John Murtha.

Posted by: JakeD2 | February 12, 2010 7:33 PM | Report abuse

Who knows why people do luge. Though it certainly is not true that they are just trying to cheat death, it is true they flirt with it. Extreme sports are a kind of decadence, aren't they?.

We do know why The Marines are fighting in Helmand. Though I can not support the war, I know Marines. They do not do this because they want to flirt with death, it is because they believe putting themselves in this danger will save lives they care about more than their own, that risking their lives and the risking the tragic sadness of those who love them, should they not return, will make a better, safer life for the many, the innocent and the people they love. Lets hope for all of them, stay safe Marines.


Posted by: shrink2 | February 12, 2010 7:32 PM | Report abuse

elijah24:

MY position is the consistent one. You even admitted "as far as I'm concerned, his whole show is satire" yet contradicted that statement in your very next sentence. Perhaps you should re-read your posts if you really think that you are the consistent one around here.

Posted by: JakeD2 | February 12, 2010 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: JakeD2 | February 12, 2010 7:28 PM | Report abuse

I didn't say you were. I was explaining how my position is consistent, and yours is BS. I don't doubt that in your own mind, it makes perfect sense, but to those of us who live in the real world, it is nakedly hypocritical.

Posted by: elijah24 | February 12, 2010 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Like I'm here for YOUR "respect"?!

Moving on, these are NICE Sharpies:

http://www.sharpie.com/enUS/Product/Sharpie_Stainless_Steel_Permanent_Marker.html

http://www.sharpie.com/enUS/Product/Sharpie_Professional_Chisel_Tip_Permanent_Marker.html

I wouldn't mind a "Camp David" Sharpie either (maybe in 2013 ; )

Posted by: JakeD2 | February 12, 2010 7:23 PM | Report abuse

Nobody with a functioning brain thinks Trig is not her son. that would be like me saying that if Barack Obama attended a Klan rally i wouldnt support him. It's just a dumb thing to say.

As for Rush, as far as I'm concerned, his whole show is satire. It wasn't satire. It was cruel and it was intentional. The mother of a child with mental disability who was as interested in her family as she was in her career wouldn't let him get away with it. If she had stood her ground with Rush, I would have given her a lot of credit. I would still oppose most of her positions, but i would have respected her as a person. She didn't. So I don't. And I don't respect anyone who excuses Rush's behavior or her failure to call him out on it.

Posted by: elijah24 | February 12, 2010 7:19 PM | Report abuse

armpeg:

Did you see the next speech, she wrote "Hi Mom!" on her palm?

http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/sarahpalin/ig/Sarah-Palin-Pictures/Palin-Hi-Mom-Hand-Note.0zq0.htm

Posted by: JakeD2 | February 12, 2010 7:16 PM | Report abuse

I didn't get Jake's answer re Abe Lincoln. Oh well.

Doesn't Jake have a problem with Palin having a short term memory so limited she couldn't remember Biden's name for the vice presidential debate? That's why she started the debate by asking Biden if she could call him "Joe."

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 12, 2010 7:14 PM | Report abuse

Wow, what a surprise!
Sarah Palin's palm-writing during her Tea Party speech, so as to not go off message, has made headline news for near two weeks or so, and is the Democrap Socialist Party--controlled Main Stream Media's (including Chris's here) main talking-point to try to demean her.
When however these same ersatz--journalists and MSM/SNL-slime see our incompetent Communist President Barack Obama, needing a Tele Promter on 1/19/10 to speak to 6th graders at the Graham Road Elementary School in Falls Church, Va., so as to not go off message, there's not a peep. The one thing it does prove though is, that while Sarah Palin only needed a few words to remind her of her message that she wanted to speak about, the dummy Barack Obama needed to see every word in his speech, so the 6th graders wouldn't be able to trip him up with questions that would stump him. Just proves how infinitly more smarter Sarah is than Obama.

Posted by: armpeg | February 12, 2010 7:07 PM | Report abuse

elijah24:

You claimed (at 6:10 PM) that I would "twist logic, facts, and morals to justify anything [my] queen does or says". That clearly IGNORED THE FACT that "I have stated previously if Trig is not her natural-born child, I would not vote for her." That's at least ONE ITEM where I would not twist logic, facts, and morals. Do you understand that part now?

As for the lack of hypocrisy on her part, Rahm Emanuel MEANT the word "retarded" as a derogatory comment. Rush Limbaugh used it as satire. Do you see that difference?

Posted by: JakeD2 | February 12, 2010 7:06 PM | Report abuse

the 'Lincoln never gave birth' comment cemented Joked's place in the comedic pantheon.

Posted by: drindl | February 12, 2010 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Please enlighten me, Jake. What fact have i ignored? Please provide examples and proof. and explain to me if you would, how why it is offensive for Rahm to use the word, but not Rush. I really don't understand that.

Posted by: elijah24 | February 12, 2010 6:59 PM | Report abuse

elijah24:

You proved my point that it is not Palin's supporters who have an uncanny ability to ignore facts and love her unconditionally.

Posted by: JakeD2 | February 12, 2010 6:55 PM | Report abuse

Marvel probably didn't understand that TPers are their biggest audience -- that comic books are their littrchure.

Captain america was making fun of them -- it was devastating, emotionally.

Posted by: drindl | February 12, 2010 6:51 PM |

Co-sign.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 12, 2010 6:54 PM | Report abuse

Or, are you referring to the (obvious) fact that Abe Lincoln never experienced childbirth? Note that I'm not here to answer drindl's questions. Someone below started a list of things that Abe Lincoln did not do (#1 "write the Gettysburg Address on his hand with a Sharpie"). I was simply adding to that list. For the record, the Sharpie pen wasn't even invented until 1964. Sharpie became the writing utensil of choice for former President of the United States, George W. Bush (also born in the USA), who reportedly preferred Sharpies so much that he often refused to use other writing materials. The President's Sharpies carried his signature and had the words "The White House" emblazoned on them. Special Camp David Sharpies were even made.

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/politics/whispers/articles/060917/25whisplead.htm

If anyone ELSE has a question about anything I've ever posted, just let me know.

Posted by: JakeD2 | February 12, 2010 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Marvel probably didn't understand that TPers are their biggest audience -- that comic books are their littrchure.

Captain america was making fun of them -- it was devastating, emotionally.

Posted by: drindl | February 12, 2010 6:51 PM | Report abuse

What point did i prove?

Posted by: elijah24 | February 12, 2010 6:48 PM | Report abuse

d, they talked about that on TV yesterday. I don't get the baggers' beef: Marvel Comics took the slogan from one of the baggers' signs. The baggers don't want to take ownership of their own nutty (and dangerous) extremism.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 12, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse

elijah24:

You already proved my point (unless you are referring to my very last post, in which case, I've got lots more on that subject ; )

Posted by: JakeD2 | February 12, 2010 6:46 PM | Report abuse

Is that the best you've got, Jake?

Posted by: elijah24 | February 12, 2010 6:44 PM | Report abuse

For a minute, let's all forget Sarah and write to NBC or the olympics directly and demand that they Pad Those Poles- the steel poles surrounding the luge track- what a tragedy......
I just did.

Posted by: thecannula | February 12, 2010 6:41 PM | Report abuse

At least Sarah Palin was born in the United States.

Posted by: JakeD2 | February 12, 2010 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else?

Posted by: JakeD2 | February 12, 2010 6:28 PM | Report abuse

In Captain America issue 602, the patriotic hero is investigating a right-wing anti-government militia group called “the Watchdogs.” Hoping to infiltrate the group, Captain America and his African-American sidekick, The Falcon, observe an all-white anti-tax protest from a rooftop. The Falcon tells Captain America, “I don’t exactly see a black man from Harlem fitting in with a bunch of angry white folks.” Captain America explains “that his plan entails sending The Falcon in among the group posing as an IRS agent under the thinking that a black government official will most certainly spark their anger.” The signs the protesters are carrying are “almost identical to those seen today in Tea Party rallies”:

After a “minor uproar ensued,” Marvel Comics editor-in-chief Joe Quesada apologized. He explained that under time pressure, they “looked on the net and started pulling slogans” from Tea Party signs that led to “accidentally identifying” one of the members of the protest group “as being a part of the Tea Party instead of a generic protest group.” But Tea Party Nation profiteer Judson Phillips was not satisfied. Crooks and Liars’ Logan Muphy comments, “I’m not sure why they apologized, as Captain America has always fought against the enemies of the United States.”

Teabaggers have found their niche -- comic book fodder.

Posted by: drindl | February 12, 2010 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else want to discuss the topic?

Posted by: JakeD2 | February 12, 2010 6:22 PM | Report abuse

drivl is moonbat now? does he change into a bat after it gets dark?

Posted by: drindl | February 12, 2010 6:21 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of Lincoln, Happy Birthday Abe!!

Yesterday was Sarah Palin's birthday too. George Washington's borthday is coming up, and February 6th (the day she gave this speech at the TEA Party) was Ronald Reagan's birthday, so she gave him a special shout out : )

Lots of great people born in this month.

Posted by: JakeD2 | February 12, 2010 6:20 PM | Report abuse

'Abe Lincoln never gave birth either.'

Uh, and that has to do with exactly, what?

Posted by: drindl | February 12, 2010 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Barry is now agnostic on raising taxes. He seemed pretty adament before.

Does this guy mean anything he says?

Posted by: Moonbat | February 12, 2010 6:17 PM | Report abuse

elijah24:

Which is why I reminded you about something even I would not justify my "queen" doing or saying. Thanks for proving my point.

Posted by: JakeD2 | February 12, 2010 6:17 PM | Report abuse

By itself, G, it isn't. Every speaker uses notes, a prompter, or something. The only reason it matters with her is because she makes such a big deal out of the prompter that President Obama uses. It's the whole "glass houses" thing.

Posted by: elijah24 | February 12, 2010 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Someone is going to have to work really hard to explain to me why it's a bad thing for a person in the public eye making a potentially important speech to have some notes in front of him or her. I mean, I know the Sarah Palin hand-writing/President Obama teleprompter nonsense is just juvenile sniping by people who'll look for any reason to bash a politician they hate, but still, I always wonder what goes through the head of a person who really, truly believes what he or she says when blasting a candidate for this kind of petty BS.

"Writing on her hand? Just proves she's an ignorant backwoods redneck who's probably never even heard of a typwriter!"
"Reading off a teleprompter? Just proves he's an elitist jerkface who dares to think things through ahead of time!"

Posted by: GJonahJameson | February 12, 2010 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Jake. You have just proven my original point: Those who love her will never believe anything bad about her. They (you) will twist logic, facts, and morals to justify anything their queen does or says.

Posted by: elijah24 | February 12, 2010 6:10 PM | Report abuse

I had to remove the screen from my monitor to wipe off the inside after reading that Broder piece.

Posted by: DDAWD | February 12, 2010 5:55 PM
____

A LOT of people did. Blow-der got slammed throughout the world of journalism for that idiotic puff piece. If he had any credibility left, it's gone now.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 12, 2010 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Abe Lincoln never gave birth either.

Posted by: JakeD2 | February 12, 2010 6:09 PM | Report abuse

elijah24:

No.

Posted by: JakeD2 | February 12, 2010 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Jake:

Abe Lincoln did not write the Gettysburg Address on his hand with a Sharpie. Gimme a Break!

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 12, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Jake, I dont care whos child Trig is. Do you really not see hypocrisy in her bashing the President for using a prompter, when she her self writes her positions on her hand? Or on a much more hypocritical scale, how about her righteous maternal anger directed at Rahm Emanuel, but not at Rush Limbaugh for their disparaging use of the words "retard" and "retarded"

Posted by: elijah24 | February 12, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: JakeD2 | February 12, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse

'This guy raised some important points that need to be addressed. This is the first time we have had a presidential candidate (Pailn) who relies on crib notes scrawled on her body parts.'

that just made her more popular with the middle school dropouts.

Posted by: drindl | February 12, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Yes, imagine how Presidents ever managed to deliver speeches before the teleprompter was invented?! Abe Lincoln had brought to Gettysburg the first part of the speech written in ink on Executive Mansion stationery, and one account has hime writing the second page in pencil on lined paper right before the dedication.

Posted by: JakeD2 | February 12, 2010 5:57 PM | Report abuse

"That's a scary thought. "Wow, she writes notes to herself on her hand - I didn't think it possible, but now I support her even MORE to be the leader of the free world!"


.

Posted by: bsimon1"

Honestly, the notes on her hand during the speech was fine. It was picked up on camera, but I'm sure no one there noticed. No big deal. Obviously hypocritical, but nothing.

It was during the interview that she looked ridiculous. She was looking at her hand during the interview thinking that no one would notice. That was just childish. Hell, for all her talk about teleprompters, she has to use a teleprompter for a damn INTERVIEW.

But Chris C is right. It will probably make her admirers admire her more. I had to remove the screen from my monitor to wipe off the inside after reading that Broder piece.

Posted by: DDAWD | February 12, 2010 5:55 PM | Report abuse

"Palin's use of notes could be embarrassing. What if an interviewer asked what she would do as president and she read from the wrong hand? I'd pick up the dry cleaning, return library books and get milk - oops! I meant to read off of my right hand! Does she not shake hands before a speech in case the notes get rubbed off? Worse yet does she wash her hands after the bathroom?"

This guy raised some important points that need to be addressed. This is the first time we have had a presidential candidate (Pailn) who relies on crib notes scrawled on her body parts.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 12, 2010 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Good points, leapin. Like the rest of us who have never read a speech off a teleprompter, we memoralize and/or use notes (on paper or hand), some people still tie a string on their finger to remember things.
Posted by: JakeD2
------------------------------------------
Jake exactly. Our company hired a coach to train us on interviewing and presentation. This coach has also done this training with some famous people. One of the exercises is to always prepare and write down 3 points that you want to make. You will notice that this is done a lot when people are reading stories on the news. There will be 3 major points. Whether or not you write your points on paper, skin, or not at all and that makes you more or less brilliant, well, you be the judge.

Posted by: leapin | February 12, 2010 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Good points, leapin. Like the rest of us who have never read a speech off a teleprompter, we memoralize and/or use notes (on paper or hand), some people still tie a string on their finger to remember things.

Posted by: JakeD2 | February 12, 2010 5:33 PM | Report abuse

"If you like/love her, everything she says or does going forward will reinforce that feeling."


That's a scary thought. "Wow, she writes notes to herself on her hand - I didn't think it possible, but now I support her even MORE to be the leader of the free world!"

Posted by: bsimon1
---------------------------------------
Just something to consider - The notes that SP writes on her hand are her own composition. Who writes what is on the teleprompter for BO and who edits it so that a 5th or 6th grader can understand it?

Posted by: leapin | February 12, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

"If you like/love her, everything she says or does going forward will reinforce that feeling."


That's a scary thought. "Wow, she writes notes to herself on her hand - I didn't think it possible, but now I support her even MORE to be the leader of the free world!"


.

Posted by: bsimon1 | February 12, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Obama signs bill allowing more US debt (AP)

Cause and effect.

Posted by: drivl | February 12, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

What, you were expecting something intelligent from the newest stooge?

Posted by: drivl | February 12, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Back on topic, The Fix live chat had some good point on Sarah Palin:

"Q. Palin's Palm notes
Hi Chris, thanks for the good columns this week. If I had been Sarah, I would have realized that if I got caught surrepticiously [SIC] reading my palm notes, I would look hypocritical for slamming the Prez about the 'prompter. She could have said "I'm going green. no hydro sucking teleprompter for me." It would have been funny and she would have gotten a subtle jab at the Prez. Sometimes you're hard pressed to remember your mother's name when you're speaking in public, so the palm notes didn't bother me, her sneakily looking at them did, it seemed hypocritical. While I think how Gibbs responded was immature, perhaps he was trying to get the jump on press questions about it, which are sometimes inane, to say the least. Did you get new glasses? They seem like they aren't the tinted kind.

A. Chris Cillizza writes:
Did I get new glasses? About six months ago. But, Fix Jr.'s tendency to rip them off my face five times a day may mean I need new ones sooner rather than later.

As for Gibbs' palm writing, I was a little surprised by it. The White House, I think, should avoid getting down into the petty day to day squabbles surrounding Obama's potential 2012 rivals.

It makes them look small at a time when he needs to look big.

...

Q. Palin-Gore-Dean
I disagree with the way you dismiss the impact of the Alaskan Teleprompter. Al Gore's "inventing the Internet" and Howard Dean's "yelling" stuck with them and made it difficult for otherwise open people to take them seriously. If you were on the fence about Palin, you heard people on both praise and criticize her, and you saw her read off her hand, you have to think she's dumb and not to be taken seriously.

A. Chris Cillizza writes:
But, do you think that for the people -- largely conservative Republicans -- who support Palin this makes them question that support?

I don't see it.

If you already didn't like her, this reinforces why you don't. That's all.

Q. Hand Notes...
I think it is funny that the same people guffawing over Palin's decision to jot notes down on her hand are the same people who give Obama thumbs up to speak to a room of fifth graders. Memo to Ms. Palin: Next time, just use a teleprompter. You will then be heralded as one of the most gifted orators in the history of this great Republic.

A. Chris Cillizza writes:
The counter!"

Posted by: JakeD2 | February 12, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

DDAWD:

The San Diego Chargers chat re: Brees was definitely off-topic.

Posted by: JakeD2 | February 12, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

elijah24:

I have stated previously if Trig is not her natural-born child, I would not vote for her. So far, there's no "nypocrisy" that's been proven.

Posted by: JakeD2 | February 12, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Favre's interception was a terrible play. All he had to do was run forward and get into field goal range and have a very good chance at getting to the Superbowl.

Manning's interception wasn't bone-headed. Porter just made an incredible read and jumped the route with perfect timing. Brees went to Disneyworld, but Porter's two interceptions are what delivered the Lombardi Trophy.

Posted by: DDAWD | February 12, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

It's more important that a halfways honest pol be elected in PA than worrying about Palin being elected (like she could kill the economy more effectively than Obama). With Murtha, possibly the 2nd most corrupt pol in Congress after Pelosi, it's important for PA to do amends.

Posted by: leapin | February 12, 2010 4:58 PM | Report abuse

"it didn't make for a particularly good story. But, no, it also won't change anything about (Palin's) political flight path."
==
This could not be more true. For a normal politician, it would reveal to his or her supporters that she is a fraud, who cant remember where she stands on the issues, because she doesn't really stand for anything. And that her ridicule of President Obama for using a teleprompter is naked hypocrisy. In the case of Palin, however, her supporters have an uncanny ability to ignore facts and lover her unconditionally anyway. And those who don't already love her, already hate her. CC is right, nothing she can do will change anyone's opinion of her at all.

Posted by: elijah24 | February 12, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Thank you for sensitive remarks about Patrick Kennedy's misery.

Posted by: shrink2 | February 12, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

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