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Let's get this out of the way first: There are NO exit polls in California, New Jersey or Virginia.  Anyone who says they know how way any of the races in those three crucial states are leaning before the polls close is not telling the truth or is privy to some sort of secret exit polling operation.

Now that we've put that ugliness behind us, here's how you can track the results tonight:

* In Virginia polls close at 7 p.m. ET.  Don't expect to know anything definitive before 9 p.m. at the earliest and likely well after that.  To monitor the balloting in Virginia, click here.

* At 7:30 p.m. ET, Ohio voting ends. The Fix is watching the four ballot measures being pushed by Reform Ohio Now, a coalition of liberal interest groups. Of particular interest is State Issue 4, which would force an independent commission to redraw congressional lines in 2007.

* At 8 p.m. ET, polls in New Jersey close.  Sen. Jon Corzine (D) remains the favorite to win the governorship -- watch the results come in here. And if Corzine wins, pay close attention in the coming days and weeks as aspiring Democratic politicians jockey to be appointed for the remaining year of his term in the Senate.

* Former Bronx Borough President Fernando Ferrer's hopes of beating New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg (R) should end officially within an hour of polls closing in the Big Apple at 9 p.m. ET. The only question remaining is how big a margin Bloomberg will roll up.  Sixty percent seems the floor, 70 percent the ceiling.  Click here to keep up with the vote count.

* The truest of political junkies (and insomniacs) should monitor this link to see whether any of the four initiatives being pushed by California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (R) passes. Given that California's polls don't close until 11 p.m. ET, don't look for any conclusive judgments before 1 or 2 a.m. on the East Coast. While you're waiting, take a minute to revel in California's Elections Web site -- it's the best in the country.

While those five races are sure to garner the most attention, a slew of other contests are going on today.  Click the following city to see how its mayoral race is shaking out: Detroit, Boston, Houston, San Diego and St. Paul.

And remember to keep your mouse on The Fix throughout the night as results roll in.

By Chris Cillizza  |  November 8, 2005; 7:07 PM ET
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So Saddam was a horror to his people. So are the Saudi royal family, so is Kim Jong Il (North Koreans have had to resort to cannibalism to survive), so is the Iranian government, and so are half the dictators in Africa. Why start with a country that was no threat to us (remember where 75% of the 9/11 hijackers came from? Saudi Arabia.) and was contained by a Northern and Southern No-Fly Zone? Why not start with North Korea, who has toiled merrily away at building real WMDs on Bush's watch? Read your history, Kate. When Saddam was gassing the Kurds, who was gladhanding him like a long lost brother? Donald Rumsfailed. Who gave him the weapons and equipment that he used to gas the Kurds? Reagan. Who gave him intel on Iranian troop movements during their long war, even though it was known that he was using chemical weapons against them? Reagan. Please stop acting like what George Bush has done is something so noble as ridding the world of a murderous dictator. Everything we were told about the reasons for going to war has been a lie. EVERYTHING! We were told Iraq was connected to 9/11. A lie. Then we were told that he had WMDs and were ready to use them at any moment. A lie. (The weapons inspectors were right. Why is it that we have to have patience to see this war to the end when Bush wouldn't be patient and give the inspectors more time?) We were told that it would be a quick war. A lie. We would be greeted with flowers and as great liberators. A lie. We were told there would be planning before we went in. A lie. The fact that he was flaunting UN resolutions is no reason to invade. How many countries do that everyday? That was for the UN to deal with. Even Bush's anti-terrorism guru, Richard Clarke, said that Bush was hot to go into Iraq from day one in office. That negates any of the justifications we've been given. If they were so convinced that he had WMDs, why would they not send enough troops to stop the looting of those very same weapons sites? Why would Rumfailed shrug off the looting as "s**t happens?" So we should see it through, Kate? Kill even more so those who have already died haven't died in vain. Distorted logic but what I'd expect from anyone trying to defend these failed policies. It has not become difficult, Kate. It was wrong to begin with, its ramifications had not been thought through and its execution has been an atrocity. How do we get out now that Bush has destabilized the region, Kate? It doesn't matter how many elections they have or constitutions they approve. Once we pull out, no matter how long that takes, all bets are off. And, how about that Al Queda, Kate? Since they attacked us on 9/11, they've hit Spain, Britain, Egypt, Indonesia and now Jordan. Maybe if Bush had concentrated on getting Osama Bin Forgotten and Al Queda, they couldn't have continued to terrorize the world.

Liberals are "so far left" from moral issues? What issues are those, Kate? Torturing and murdering prisoners? Violating international agreements? Invading other sovereign countries and killing thousands of its innocent citizens? Keeping people imprisoned for years on end without legal representation or even proof that they're guilty of anything? Putting political cronies in charge of agencies that are supposed to be making us safer, like DHS? Allowing thousands of poor people to suffer and die after a major natural disaster that they knew was coming because the guy in charge of FEMA was too stupid to be believable? Interfering with an individual's right to die? Outing a CIA operative and then covering it up for two years? Giving billions to the rich in tax cuts while our troops go without essential equipment and millions more Americans are thrown into poverty? Are these the morals that you are so proud of, Kate? If you are representative of the youth of this nation, I fear for our future for we are truly doomed.

And, Bill, please stop trying to compare WWII to this horror that Bush started. WWII was a just and necessary war. Hitler was a clear and present danger to the world, not just Germany. Japan attacked us. Nothing about Bush's failed war even comes close to that.

"I may not know much but I do know chicken s**t from chicken salad." Lyndon B. Johnson

Posted by: KAS | November 10, 2005 1:19 PM | Report abuse


Come on now. Take off the mask. Admit that you're just trying to have fun with us. Surely no one could really believe the baseless, woefully inaccurate, malicious drivel contained in your posts. I've been very entertained LMAO. Now it's time to fess up. Maybe the most over the top part is your use of Semper Fi. I have far more respect for those who wear or have worn that uniform than to believe tem capable of your level of invective.

On the off-chance that you're actually serious, get a life! Read some actual publicly printed history books. The alternative would seem to be that you'll be found in a backwoods shack some day, writing your manifesto and mailing mysterious packages to "enemies of the right way."

Posted by: Ed K. | November 9, 2005 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Re: "Let's get this out of the way first: There are NO exit polls in California."

THANK YOU. After 10-15 websites, I found why I couldn't find how it's going. Thanks for saving me further time, in your first line.

Posted by: Jim Gale | November 8, 2005 10:14 PM | Report abuse

Dem Govs win in New Jersey & Virgina.

Thanks for the Help, George!!!

Great Job!!! Keep campaigning!!!

Posted by: Ed Head | November 8, 2005 9:40 PM | Report abuse


Does everyone in Massechusetts know this stuff about the Kennedy's? You've got every mystery solved from the 20th century.

Maybe you can tell us who forged the documents about the uranium yellowcake using Nigerian letterhead. You know the one that Collin Powell took to the UN. Who dun dat, Bill? Mafia? Maybe, cause they discovered them in Italy.

Yeah, it was the Mafia getting back at Clinton for Kerry's bronze star that really should have gone to Cheney for having the most deferments from the war.

Whatta ya think, Bill. Sounds logical to me.

Posted by: DumbDumberDumbya | November 8, 2005 9:08 PM | Report abuse


Thanks for taking over this board. Being from Massechusetts, I guess that makes you omnipotent. You're really informative, but you might want to actually read some history before you go spewing all over yourself. We were attacked at a place called Pearl Harbor. That's a bit different than going to the UN with forged documents and relying on a known liar, Chalabi.

Oh, and Clinton is no longer President. He was impeached for lying about a BJ. No animals or people were killed, but it cost us $40 million to get to the bottom of that. That's right, he's been out of office about 5 years now. Yeah, I know, it seems like yesterday when the rest of the world respected us and we had a $5 trillion dollar surplus.

Get a library card, Bill.

Posted by: DumbDumberDumbya | November 8, 2005 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Dear Bill, please learn to spell Democracy before ou preach it. BTW, We are not a democracy, we are a represntative republic. It's always nice to know how yourgovernment works. : )

Posted by: Phil | November 8, 2005 8:46 PM | Report abuse

being from Massachusetts I am well are well aware of the hypocrisy and duplicity of the Kennedys. i guess in the public schools today they do not explain how the 1960 election was stolen by Mayor Dailey and Joe Kennedy. I guess they do not explain Bobby Kennedy's arrognce to Hoffa and the Mafia which cost his brother his life. I guess they don't explain how Kennedy's womanizing cause the US to lose military secrets to the Russions. I guess they don'y explain how Teddy met with his lawyers as Mary Jo was drowning at Chapaquidick. If you want to believe in a fairy tale go ahead. And if so, who killed JFK? Only the mafia, whom Kennedy betrayed by losing all their financial investments in Cuba at the Bay of Pigs, could get away with something for so many years. Rose was a lady, no question but she married a dirty pig, Joe Kennedy, who if you recall was sympathetic to Hitler during the difficult days of the war, thus going betraying Churchhill and FDR, thereby exposing himself as a coward and destroying any chance he had of getting elected president, which was quite good at the time. FDR hated him. Truman hated him. So I will take the opinion of those fine men..

Posted by: bill | November 8, 2005 8:20 PM | Report abuse

hitler was a bad guy too and FDR knew it and he had to pull a few strings to get the US into WWII. Bet you wouldn't call the King of Liberals, FDR a liar for that now would you? If Clinto had actually done something in his eight years except hitting on babes then maybe the UN would have used the authority and military power of the US to prevent Saddam from violation countless UN resolutions after the first war. Bush relied on Clintons WMD intelligence. Now that was a mistake. Kerry relied on the same intelligence. Anything Clinton had his hands on was unreliable and suspect. The Mid East is better off without a dictator in Iraq and democrasy will lead the way to stability in the Mid East. If the intelligence was bad, that is not good. But good men have died and their sacrifice must be honored and if there is some good that can come about then patriotic americans must stand with the fallen and find the best possible way to memorialize them. A lot of men died in WWI for virtually nothing but people honor their memory to this day, as we honor the memory of Vietnam's heroes. i people talked like some of you during the very dark days of WWII when resolve was failing, there would be a swastika flying over DC and not old glory....cynics have no place in the American dream. our constitution was born out of optimism and blood shed, not out of second guessing and Monday morning quarterbacking. semper fi!

Posted by: bill | November 8, 2005 8:10 PM | Report abuse

As a Virginia resident, I'm simply glad the campaign and those obnoxious, negative ads are through with. The gubernatorial spots from Kaine and Kilgore were the worst, telling me why I shouldn't vote for the other guy.

They must have worked. I voted for Potts.

At least Potts talked issues and proposed solutions instead of platitudes. I didn't agree with everything on his platform (I'm that rare bird called an anti-abortion liberal who normally leans Democratic), but much of it made sense -- especially considering the state's future and the continued growth of northern Virginia.

Posted by: VP81955 | November 8, 2005 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Wow Bill, did a Kennedy bite you when you were little? You might want to go talk to someone about that little obsession you have...

Posted by: Kill the Kennedys? | November 8, 2005 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone know which precincts have reported in VA? So far it looks like Kilgore is ahead, but it may just be rural votes so far? Thanks

Posted by: crasmussen | November 8, 2005 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the Links, Chris.

Don't know who Kate is, but she must enjoy being lied to. She's right that way too many Dems fell for these lies.

As for "murdering his people" we were okay with that as long as he kept Iran at bay and the oil flowing. Kate, check out the alleged use of white phosphorus (chemical weapons) we may have used in Falluja, the 25,000 Iraqi civilian dead since our invasion (so far), the secret prisons in foreign countries, the torture at Abu Graib (and elsewhere), the refusal to abide by Geneva conventions, and 25 prisoners dead in our custody. In the eyes of the world, we are now the "bad guys."

If you want to start taking out evil dictators around the world, there is a long long list of them. Funny how we happened to pick one sitting on the largest deposit of oil in the world.

Posted by: DumbDumberDumbya | November 8, 2005 7:45 PM | Report abuse

anyone who gets out there and campaigns is worthy of consideration, no matter what side they are on. stop your griping. it is hard work to campaign and to stand up for what you believe. You take such a risk and all you get from the voting population is "is that all?" i may not agree with nutty liberals but i certainly respect any liberal who runs for office and campaigns on positive ideas and polices. If you do not like what you see, get off your fanny and run. we should all be proud of all our candidates every election, from president to city councilor, from mayor to congressman. They are trying and not afraid to take a chance.

Posted by: bill | November 8, 2005 7:38 PM | Report abuse

the exit polls in 2004 were not accurate. they did not reflect actual votes cast which is what we count on election night. Exit polls are notoriously unreliable because they count votes in the late morning....who votes then besides the elderly ? and because they only use votes from urban settings which are proportionally more democratic. And because people lie to exit poll takers. Conyers is nothing more than a conspiratorial nutjob like Barbara Boxer or Ted Kennedy. Come back to reality in 2006 and watch the GOP win because Republicans count votye. Democrats cheat. If you want to be sure go ask Fat Teddy Kennedy how his brother Jack stole the election of 1960 with the help of his Dad and the Mafia.....Not surprising when brother Bobby double crossed that same group of fellows by mesing with Hoffa, someone got their head blown clear off!!!!!! You play with fire you get burnt!

Posted by: bill mahoney | November 8, 2005 7:32 PM | Report abuse

Good thoughts Muhammad, but I would rather have people vote for the "lesser of two evils" than not vote at all. The feeling of disgust you express is rightly felt, but also you should not forget that despite their frustrations with the candidates they are still going out there to select one for themselves.

When I hear such comments I try to remind the speakers that there is never a candidate who they would consider "ideal" and that is a good thing. Democracy is about compromises, not getting everything you want, which is sometimes disappointing. But the important thing to remember is that democracy is also not about you getting what you want, it's about everybody together selecting someone that will be good for the greatest number of people.

Frustrating? Yes. Disappointing? Yes. Good for establishing justice, insuring domestic tranquility, providing for the common defense, and promoting the general welfare? Absolutely, yes.

Posted by: The Lesser Evil | November 8, 2005 7:31 PM | Report abuse

It is indeed a sad day when I hear that elections are a choice between the lesser of two evils. Is this democracy or what? The building's engineer and some mechanic were talking in the coffee room and that what they were saying, that today to cast a vote is just to choose the lesser of two evils!!!

A week earlier the same thing was put in slightly different words by my colleague who said that these days we do not vote for the best person for the job but for the one who is going to cause us the least amount of trouble.

If this is the state of democracy in the US of A, then what are we exporting to the middle east????

Posted by: Muhammad Ahmad | November 8, 2005 7:18 PM | Report abuse

Why no exit polls? I am suspicious. In most democracies or countries wanting to be democracies exit polls are considered a reliable check against election fraud.

The 2004 exit polls show that Kerry won. The 2002 exit polls in Georgia showed that the Democrats won. Were the exit polls wrong? Or was there election fraud?

Look what happened in the Ukraine when the exit polls differed from the results. A new election was held and the other side won!

Look at John Conyer's report about the Ohio election of 2004 adn you will see that there is credible evidence of election fraud.

All of this is to say that we need exit polls, not simply to satisfy our curiosity an hour or two before the results are in. We need exit polls to be sure that the voting machines, controlled by private companies with secret source codes, are not manipulated. And we need printed paper records that can be audited and recounted if necessary when discrepancies are suspected.

Nothing less than our democracy is at stake.

Posted by: Richard Katz | November 8, 2005 7:13 PM | Report abuse

I find it absolutely striking that Republicans seem to completely ignore, disregard, and take no responsibility for the "bait and switch" that was done to the American people in regard to the Iraq war. Worse, people like Kate have the audacity to say that Dems. voted to go in there too. Well...DUH.

For a year, we were "baited" about all the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and how Saddam was in league with terorrists with plans to attack the United States. We trusted that our government had their facts straight and supported them. Who wouldn't? We now know that nothing could have been further from the truth.

Now they "switched" to saying that Saddam was a bad man and needed to be taken out anyway? Are you kidding me? We invaded a sovereign nation and regardless of their or our political, philosophical, religious, ethical, or moral beliefs, we had NO RIGHT to go in there just because a "bad man" was in power. There are "bad men" everywhere with a good deal of them up on capital hill.

Now that people want answers, like clockwork...the Republican Slam Machine goes into high gear by attacking the very people who understandably want answers. I am tired of it. People are tired of it. I just wish we didn't have to way for another year before the next elections.

Posted by: Jordan | November 8, 2005 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Any idea what tv coverage of the results will be like? We're political junkies hoping to watch the results roll in, but won't be in front of a computer. Will CNN/MSNBC/FOX offer coverage throughout the night tonight?

Posted by: Mary H | November 8, 2005 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Chris! Just the set of links I'd usually look up and share myself. You've saved me some work.

Posted by: Sandwich Repairman | November 8, 2005 5:30 PM | Report abuse

This comment is a week old and concerns the opinion piece about the Senate closed door session. I first read the posting that follows, last week and did not then have the time to respond. I have included the posting in its entirety.

Posted by: Kate | Nov 2, 2005 4:38:55 PM
"Are you people serious? First of all, this is not the first time that the country has had one party control (Clinton anyone???) the White House and Congress, and if I am not mistaken, A LOT of Democrats voted back in 2002 for war including Kerry and Hilary. The fact has not changed that we rid the world of a horrible dictator who was MURDERING HIS PEOPLE. Democrats are only crying now because it has become DIFFICULT. If the country cannot keep its resolve in this time of crisis then all of those "young people" will have died in vain. Instead of "parliamentary theatrics" Reid should actually propose a solution to the situation. Closed door sessions of the Senate are doing nothing but drawing attention to politions [sic] RIGHT BEFORE ELECTIONS. And when the election was held, Republicans will still hold the majority because you liberals are so far left on moral and fiscal issues, and this is from a 'young person.' "

I find it repugnant that this "young person" seems to have no difficulty ascribing to the philosophies of "the ends justify the means" and "might makes right" and in the same breath accuses those"evil Liberals" of lacking morality. Then again, out of the mouth of babes, we have in microcosm the difference between neo cons and liberals. Let me take this opportunity to remind you dear Kate that were it not for Liberals you would not have the right to vote nor would black people, slaves would not be free, we would have no social security nor would we have Medicare or Medicaid. On these issues Liberals were opposed, attacked, and vilified by Conservatives. So tell me again, who has the moral high ground here?

That said, lying, shaping, or otherwise varnishing the truth to enable one to do as they please, like going to war, is wrong. The fact that a country is led by a "horrible dictator" who murders his own people does NOT give the United States of America or any other country, the right to invade that country and remove its ruler. So no, the ends do not justify the means and just because we have the might to do it does not give us the right to do it. As for "Kerry and Hilary" and a lot of other Democrats voting to go to war, they voted based on the word of this administration that Sadam had and would soon use weapons of mass destruction. Words that turned out to be lies. Moral high ground for this administration? I THINK NOT.

Posted by: Ed K. | November 8, 2005 4:37 PM | Report abuse

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