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By Chris Cillizza  |  September 17, 2008; 3:27 PM ET
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Posted by: Bob Greiner | September 25, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

> PRES. CLINTON/DEMOCRATS HAD NO REGULATIONS DURING THE 90'S WHICH CAUSED MANY INTERNET COMPANIES TO GO BANKRUPT.

Didn't a lot of businesses ( and Internet Co.) go bankrupt because of lax (or NO) corporate regulation during Pres. Clinton/Democrat rule. So, how could Sen. Obama/Dem. call the Rep. stink when the same exact thing happened to them during the Clinton/Dem. rule.

> SEN. OBAMA HAS NO SOLUTION TO ECONOMIC PROBLEMS!

I watch Sen. Obama speech about fixing economy. Frankly, he has no solution. He babbles on and on about Rep. cause recession; therefore, Sen. McCain is responsible for making companies bankrupt, and Americans should remove all Rep. and place him in charge. However, he does not have an intelligent solution which will solve our problem. His energy proposal stinks, his wealth shifting tax policy stinks, and he has no economic exp.; but most importantly, he does not have a specific fix for bad corporate practices and regulation.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 19, 2008 7:23 AM | Report abuse

Intelligent Life on Earth for Obama/Biden!!

Posted by: sheridan1 | September 18, 2008 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Fine Human Beings for Obama/Biden!

Posted by: CrazyMe | September 18, 2008 8:33 PM | Report abuse

Republicans for Obama and Biden!

Posted by: Iconoblaster | September 18, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Democrats for John McCain and Sarah Palin in 2008

Posted by: Kerri | September 18, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Game over for the GOP. We now have Palin on record clearly breaking the law. She's done. From today's Washington Post:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/17/AR2008091703304.html?hpid=topnews

Posted by: Illumination | September 18, 2008 10:43 AM | Report abuse

I was watching this video and wasn't going to make a comment, but this video was too useful. Thanks.

Posted by: Beth | September 18, 2008 10:01 AM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 9:04 AM | Report abuse

Let's just face the facts. The GAO has issued report after report this year supporting the economic proposals of Obama as 100% in line with what the US Economy needs. How did they rate McCain? 42%. Since that's about what share of the popular vote he should expect, we need not concern ourselves with this too much, but it is worth taking note of these hard facts before arguing about it.

Up is not Down, regardless of what the GOP Operative Hordes would have us believe.

Posted by: Nick Collins III | September 18, 2008 8:46 AM | Report abuse

Dance, Monkey, Dance!!

Cillizza, you tool.

Palin=Criminal
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/17/palin.investigation/index.html

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Posted by: Nick Collins III | September 18, 2008 7:27 AM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 5:50 AM | Report abuse

Chris should shave. He looked like he had pulled an all-nighter.

Posted by: Robert | September 18, 2008 2:47 AM | Report abuse

It's amazing how old this "Take" felt watching it at the end of today.

A new New York Times poll shows Obama now up by 5 points: 48-43. Back to where he was before the conventions, I believe.

Obama is now leading McCain with white women by 2 points--McCain was up by 19 points just a few days ago.

The Palin bubble is going "pop!" as it had to. Never before has someone been so artificially propped up in American history that I can think of with so many half-truths and outright lies. The absolute audacity of it was incredible.

Obama is clearly on the offensive now in tone and momentum--not just based on polls but in the look and feel of the campaigns.

The "John McCain invented the Blackberry" gaffe and the "John McCain and Sarah Palin couldn't run a corporation" gaffe have certainly helped Obama.

Whatever Sarah Palin said or did in Alaska is apparently so damaging that the Republicans and McCain campaign are bringing in all the guns and venom to stop the investigation that everyone previously agreed was fair.

Again, John McCain's vetting (or lack thereof) and selection of Palin was incredibly short-sighted, impulsive and cynical.

McCain's laughable flip-flops are also absurd.

He's gone from the biggest deregulator to the guy who says he's going to shake up Washington by bringing new regulations. Huh?

The Straight Talk Express has literally become absurd. There is no straight talk happening in the McCain campaign.

He still loves Phil Gramm, his greatest economic influencer, who helped create the mess we're in financially with all of his deregulations, and says we're all whiners for being afraid of what's happening in the economy.

The entire Republican/McCain machine is elitist and totally out of touch with average Americans.

Eric Cantor, a former VP possibility for McCain, on Hardball was again stressing the need to simply calm nerves and settle people down during this financial crisis. Fine. But again, it sounds like it's all "psychological recession." Only if people could get therapy from Republicans they'd forget that they've lost their homes to foreclosure, have lost their jobs, can't afford gas, can't sell their home if they still have it, and are facing rising food costs. Because that's all psychological. Not real.

Yeah. We just need to calm nerves. That's the main problem. Yes. True. If you have lots of cash reserves like... I don't know... the McCains, the Cantors, the Gramms, the Bushes, etc. They're all very distressed and need to calm down because their net worths have dropped from 100 million to 97 million.

Posted by: MNobserver | September 18, 2008 12:45 AM | Report abuse

Chris QUIT being a water boy for Drduge! It looks bad and people lose respect for you! He lies and makes things up and refuses to headline the real news if it shows his chosen candidate, the senile peanut, in a bad light. People are mad and are not going to take it anymore which is why so many other net sites have grown in popularity! Get on the train or get left at the station.
Obama 08

Posted by: Brian | September 18, 2008 12:22 AM | Report abuse

If you could leave Matt Drudge out of it I might watch but lately your love fest with someone who is so yesterday and really insignificant anymore is getting old. Since the internet became the place to be this election year? Matt Drudge is just one more place to check the news and if he keeps trying to influence the election? He will become nothing more than a wasteland while other places pass him by....

Posted by: Deanna | September 18, 2008 12:15 AM | Report abuse

Dance, Monkey, Dance!!

Cillizza, you tool.

Palin=Criminal
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/17/palin.investigation/index.html

Posted by: Nick Collins III | September 17, 2008 11:13 PM | Report abuse

Bring back the guitar and the funny hats.

Posted by: FlownOver | September 17, 2008 11:11 PM | Report abuse

The only good thing about the Wall Street crash, at least we are finally talking about real issues, wonder if it would last.


Check out new post, "When Politics Becomes More Than Lipstick On A Pig"

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Posted by: Sunday | September 17, 2008 10:39 PM | Report abuse

Wonder if it is true that Obama has solicited OJ Simpson to bump off mutual opponent of both parties specifically tonight to win in November and election has little to do with issues and popularity?

Apparently the mutual opponent is wealthy and exposed corruption within both parties and is presently targeted.

Or will the GOP solicit Guiliani-like mob ties such used by his protege, ex-NYPD commissioner and was indicted and doing jail time today? Or solicit Gotti, Jr. whose conspiracy and murder trial is currently going on? BTW, OJ's kidnap and robbery trial is currently going on too.

Will both political parties engage in the popular law enforcement practice of "sweetheart exchange deals" where convicts commit crime/murder in exchange for less jail time, conveniently covered up and real culprits are not suspected?

If so, will OJ's trial get suddenly dropped and he walks away scot free as part of the sweetheart exchange deal?

Given this information, will we too have to worry about our physical safety? For example, will my husband have to worry about his life while jogging after work as is his routine tomorrow in the Hackensack, Bogota and Teaneck areas in NJ? Will I have to worry about my bus ride to and from the Port Authority tomorrow afternoon? Do we have to worry about being bumped off in the middle of the night inside our home as our habits and plans are known in advance because of various bugging devices both in private and public?

What do you think?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 10:36 PM | Report abuse

Wonder if it is true that Obama has solicited OJ Simpson to bump off mutual opponent of both parties specifically tonight to win in November and election has little to do with issues and popularity?

Apparently the mutual opponent is wealthy and exposed corruption within both parties and is presently targeted.

Or will the GOP solicit Guiliani-like mob ties such used by his protege, ex-NYPD commissioner and was indicted and doing jail time today? Or solicit Gotti, Jr. whose conspiracy and murder trial is currently going on? BTW, OJ's kidnap and robbery trial is currently going on too.

Will both political parties engage in the popular law enforcement practice of "sweetheart exchange deals" where convicts commit crime/murder in exchange for less jail time, conveniently covered up and real culprits are not suspected?

If so, will OJ's trial get suddenly dropped and he walks away scot free as part of the sweetheart exchange deal?

Given this information, will we too have to worry about our physical safety? For example, will my husband have to worry about his life while jogging after work as is his routine tomorrow in the Hackensack, Bogota and Teaneck areas in NJ? Will I have to worry about my bus ride to and from the Port Authority tomorrow afternoon? Do we have to worry about being bumped off in the middle of the night inside our home as there are bugging devices both in private and public?

What do you think?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 10:35 PM | Report abuse

Wonder if it is true that Obama has solicited OJ Simpson to bump off mutual opponent of both parties specifically tonight to win in November and election has little to do with issues and popularity?

Apparently the mutual opponent is wealthy and exposed corruption within both parties and is presently targeted.

Or will the GOP solicit Guiliani-like mob ties such used by his protege, ex-NYPD commissioner and was indicted and doing jail time today? Or solicit Gotti, Jr. whose conspiracy and murder trial is currently going on? BTW, OJ's kidnap and robbery trial is currently going on too.

Will both political parties engage in the popular law enforcement practice of "sweetheart exchange deals" where convicts commit crime/murder in exchange for less jail time, conveniently covered up and real culprits are not suspected?

If so, will OJ's trial get suddenly dropped and he walks away scot free as part of the sweetheart exchange deal?

Given this information, will we too have to worry about our physical safety? For example, will my husband have to worry about his life while jogging after work as is his routine tomorrow in the Hackensack, Bogota and Teaneck areas in NJ? Will I have to worry about my bus ride to and from the Port Authority tomorrow afternoon? Do we have to worry about being bumped off in the middle of the night inside our home?

What do you think?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 10:33 PM | Report abuse

Two major mortgage lenders, Countrywide and Indymac are gone.

The two largest mortgage intermediaries, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have been taken over by the government.

Three of the five giant investment banks on Wall Street no longer exist as independent entities.

The largest insurer in the world got an $85 billion loan from the Fed today. It had been unable secure it in the private sector.

Hundreds of billions of dollars of home value has evaporated.

We have an enormous federal budget deficit and external debt which can only be financed by foreign lenders.

Today we saw the largest one day increase in gold prices in history.

Today we saw hundreds of billions of dollars fleeing the equity markets into 3 month treasury bills at ZERO interest, looking only for safety.

We are witnessing the impoverisment of America.

The Republican Party, which enabled all of this with their deregulation pipe-dreams now suddenly are for re-regulation.

The media was talking about lipstick and celebrity until last weekend.

Half of America thinks the world was created 7,000 years ago and are waiting for the rapture.

Where is our President?

....and this Party wants 4 more years??

Po

Posted by: toritto | September 17, 2008 9:07 PM | Report abuse

He is pulling another Katrina. By the way, have you seen what it going on in Texas after the storm? Except for the death toll, they are screwing this up as bad as they did Katrina.

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Every President of note, when the country was going into a major crisis would appear on prime time television to address the nation. The President has the responsibility to ease the minds of the people of the United States. Where is George Bush? He needs to give confidence to the American people. George Bush is, once again A.W.O.L! This is another Katrina! His Laissez-faire style of running the Presidency is clearly not working. If George Bush is not capable of addressing the nation on this issue, the crisis will continue and we will be on unsteady ground until we have another President. This may be too late.

Posted by: Jersey John | September 17, 2008 6:34 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 7:19 PM | Report abuse

The equity markets have lost over a trillion dollars in value over the last three days.

Two major mortgage lenders, Countrywide and Indymac are gone.

The two largest mortgage intermediaries, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have been taken over by the government.

Three of the five giant investment banks on Wall Street no longer exist as independent entities.

The largest insurer in the world got an $85 billion loan from the Fed today. It had been unable secure it in the private sector.

Hundreds of billions of dollars of home value has evaporated.

We have an enormous federal budget deficit and external debt which can only be financed by foreign lenders.

Today gold prices had their greatest one day rise in history,

Today tens of billions of dollars fled the equity markets in 3 month Treasury bills at ZERO interest.

We are witnessing the impoverisment of America.

The Republican Party, which enabled all of this with their deregulation pipe-dreams now suddenly are for re-regulation.

The media was talking about lipstick and celebrity until last weekend.

Half of America thinks the world was created 7,000 years ago and are waiting for the rapture.

Where is our President?

Waiting for Jesus?

....and this Party wants 4 more years??

Posted by: toritto | September 17, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Every President of note, when the country was going into a major crisis would appear on prime time television to address the nation. The President has the responsibility to ease the minds of the people of the United States. Where is George Bush? He needs to give confidence to the American people. George Bush is, once again A.W.O.L! This is another Katrina! His Laissez-faire style of running the Presidency is clearly not working. If George Bush is not capable of addressing the nation on this issue, the crisis will continue and we will be on unsteady ground until we have another President. This may be too late.

Posted by: Jersey John | September 17, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

add it (audio only) to the Post podcasts...I run about 5 hours a week and need a couple more things to listen to.

Posted by: purplemartin | September 17, 2008 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Boy, dull

Posted by: Tom | September 17, 2008 5:52 PM | Report abuse

Honestly, it's getting harder and harder to keep up with all of the lies that come out of John McCain's mouth.

Here's McCain's Latest Lie:

"Two years ago, I warned that the oversight of Fannie and Freddie was terrible, that we were facing a crisis because of it, or certainly serious problems," Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., told CBS this morning. "The influence that Fannie and Freddie had in the inside the Beltway, old boy network, which led to this kind of corruption is unacceptable and I warned about it a couple of years ago."
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http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/despite-claims.html
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And here is "straight- takin'" John McCain 10 months ago when asked about the subprime mortgage crisis:

"But so, in this whole new derivative stuff, and SIBs and all of this kind of new ways of packaging mortgages together and all that is something that frankly I don’t know a lot about. [...]"
"But I don’t know of hardly anybody, with the exception of a handful, that said ‘wait a minute, this thing is getting completely out of hand and is overheating."
"So, I’d like to tell you that I did anticipate it, but I have to give you straight talk, I did not."


I'm starting to lose track of all of these mavericky flip-flops from McCain and as usual our corporate media Republican water carriers won't report it because their job is to take every situation that arises in this Presidential race and ask:
"How is this good for McCain and how is this bad for Obama"?.


McCain Lies, it's part of his campaign strategy and here's the documentation of his lies:
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http://mccainpedia.org/index.php/Count_the_Lies
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Posted by: ace mcfunkenstein | September 17, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse

Need to be less wordy and more snappy

Don't understand the current economic turmopil? Dont statnd there and contradulate yourselfs, go out and get someone who can tell you what you need to know in plain English, so that you can tell your readers what they need to focus on and so that all of us can ask tough questions of the campaigns. Its al well and good to spout populist rhetoric but in the end we want the guy who is going to be able to use the governments resources most effectly for the benefit of the of the majority of us.

We are not playing here, the economic situation is extremely serious. It's not so much how we got here, but where we are going and if the media fails to put in the honest legwork that is needed here we all will suffer because populism is alot of empty platitudes as far as I am concerned

Posted by: nclwtk | September 17, 2008 5:31 PM | Report abuse

From Wick Allison, former Editor of the National Review (Buckley's magazine, highly conservative:

In 1964, at the age of 16, I organized the Dallas County Youth for Goldwater. My senior thesis at the University of Texas was on the conservative intellectual revival in America. Twenty years later, I was invited by William F. Buckley Jr. to join the board of National Review. I later became its publisher [...]

[T]oday it is so-called conservatives who are cemented to political programs when they clearly don’t work. The Bush tax cuts—a solution for which there was no real problem and which he refused to end even when the nation went to war—led to huge deficit spending and a $3 trillion growth in the federal debt. Facing this, John McCain pumps his “conservative” credentials by proposing even bigger tax cuts. Meanwhile, a movement that once fought for limited government has presided over the greatest growth of government in our history. That is not conservatism; it is profligacy using conservatism as a mask.

Today it is conservatives, not liberals, who talk with alarming bellicosity about making the world “safe for democracy.” It is John McCain who says America’s job is to “defeat evil,” a theological expansion of the nation’s mission that would make George Washington cough out his wooden teeth.

This kind of conservatism, which is not conservative at all, has produced financial mismanagement, the waste of human lives, the loss of moral authority, and the wreckage of our economy that McCain now threatens to make worse.

I now see that Obama is almost the ideal candidate for this moment in American history. I disagree with him on many issues. But those don’t matter as much as what Obama offers, which is a deeply conservative view of the world. Nobody can read Obama’s books (which, it is worth noting, he wrote himself) or listen to him speak without realizing that this is a thoughtful, pragmatic, and prudent man. It gives me comfort just to think that after eight years of George W. Bush we will have a president who has actually read the Federalist Papers.

Most important, Obama will be a realist. I doubt he will taunt Russia, as McCain has, at the very moment when our national interest requires it as an ally. The crucial distinction in my mind is that, unlike John McCain, I am convinced he will not impulsively take us into another war unless American national interests are directly threatened.

“Every great cause,” Eric Hoffer wrote, “begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket.” As a cause, conservatism may be dead. But as a stance, as a way of making judgments in a complex and difficult world, I believe it is very much alive in the instincts and predispositions of a liberal named Barack Obama.

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AMEN

Posted by: Deficits Dont Matter | September 17, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

How about inviting on some of the "commentocracy" -- some face time for the net's "first responders"?

Might be the basis for a new cable TV show: "Blog and Blogger."

Or maybe, "Blog and Bloggier."

No, make it "Blog and Blogger." Like "Dumb and Dumber" -- get it?

Hey -- that's good. Get Phil Griffin on the horn...

Posted by: scrivener | September 17, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Did you see the 5-minute CNN video that actually addressed the fact that McCain/Palin repeat things they know to be lies?

I have it, along with a recommended script for a proposed new series of Obama ads, at:

http://scootmandubious.blogspot.com/2008/09/calling-out-mccainpalin-on-their-lies.html

Posted by: scootmandubious | September 17, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: thebob.bob | September 17, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Laughing when the economy is tanking?

Posted by: Baby Fix | September 17, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Wow. You two couldn't be more uncertain, could you? What has you so rattled? Or, are you simply wanting to keep the horserace alive?

It looks like the Evangelical Base is rooted firmly in Palin/McCain's camp (in that order), largely because Palin's Pentacostal training has enabled her an energizing speaker.

And, the Dem base is "Mad As Hell And Not Going To Take It Anymore." They too are re-fired up. Despite the Kuwait Embassy bombing (no Yankees killed so folks tune out. sorry), "it's the economy stupid" all over again, and McCain's going to have a tough time with that.

So, as per usual, it's those squiggly Independent Swing Voters.

And the newly registered ones: you know - the millions of youth, African Americans and other minorities. Hello??

Have you forgotten about the over 11 million newly registered voters, or do they not "register" in your minds?

Posted by: scj, anytown, usa | September 17, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

The Fix asks
"Looking for more of The Fix?"

That depends. Are you going to keep looking to Drudge for story ideas, or coming up with stuff on your own?

Posted by: bsimon | September 17, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

I like it. The casual conversation format is great. I think there should be more things like this. I assume you'll be putting this into a podcast envelope and have it listed on iTunes.

Great stuff, keep it up.

Posted by: Anthony | September 17, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Hard to see how this is more informative than...?? Sounds like you guys are caught at least as flat footed as McCain. Your best tip is to think about foreign policy? With no reference to current known stance of either candidate? I think you need to prep a little better before next weeks taping.

Posted by: Goldyguy | September 17, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse


Cite:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/cynicism-of-mccains-vp-choice.html

Monday, September 15, 2008
The Cynicism of John McCain

If you read Jeffrey Goldberg's excellent piece on McCain in the new Atlantic, one fact stands out clearly. McCain's stance on the war is inviolate--it involves what for him are principles of honor that stretch back immediately and directly to his own experiences in the Vietnam war, and to those of his father in World War II. Just one example of many in the first-rate article:

"I told Swindle [a cellmate and friend of McCain's] that McCain had argued to me that he doesn’t think about Vietnam overly much when he thinks about the wars of today.

“'Bulls--t,' Swindle said. 'He’ll say Vietnam didn’t affect him, that he doesn’t think about it, that he’s aloof from it. But I see it. It’s there.'”

This is the issue on which McCain is inflexible, certain, fully invested, passionate.

It is equally clear that as a result, he views all other issues as malleable, political issues--stances that can be easily taken, and easily changed, tactically-- in order to win a campaign and thus deal with the issue that, to him, matters.

This is utterly clear in his choice of Palin, where his Vietnam-and-since cynicism about political necessities is manifest--one of feeding the bread and circuses desire of the electorate, giving them, so easily fooled, as they were so easily fooled by the media in Vietnam, what they need, in order to be able to deal with the important issue.

The choice of a remarkably unqualified Vice Presidential choice is simply a political necessity. The attitude towards the public, and the media, in this choice, as in many of the public representations and statements of his campaign, is one of an extraordinary, world-weary, cynicism: Feed the beast with whatever fantasies and half-truths it takes. The fundamentals of the economy are sound. We'll take care of it later.

Goldberg:

"In my conversations with McCain, however, he never appeared greatly troubled by his shifts and reversals. It’s not difficult to understand why: tax policy, or health care, or even off-shore oil drilling are for him all matters of mere politics, and politics calls for ideological plasticity. It is only in the realm of national defense, and of American honor—two notions that for McCain are thoroughly entwined—that he becomes truly unbending."

This is no doubt rooted in McCain's eternal certainties, drummed in by three generations of such certainty. And there is no doubt strength and decency--as well as these "family values"--that drive this commitment to an ideological core.

The question is this: Do we need another president with such a core of ideological inflexibility, rigidity and unwillingness for self-reflection, linked to a long past conflict--and who is willing to resort to half-truths, deceptions, and distortions in its service?

Cite:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/cynicism-of-mccains-vp-choice.html

Posted by: Susan D'Addario | September 17, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

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