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Sunday Reading: Broder on the Republican South

FT. WORTH, Texas -- Maybe it's because The Fix is in the Lone Star State for the Christmas holiday but this morning's column by David Broder -- the Dean of the political press corps -- struck a chord with us.

The piece starts as a look at how retiring Illinois Republican Rep. Ray LaHood is the perfect choice to be President-elect Barack Obama's Transportation Secretary (bipartisan deal maker who hails from the industrial Midwest) but eventually turns into a polemic against the increased power of the south in the Republican party.

Writes Broder:

"The Southern domination of the congressional Republican Party has become more complete with each and every election. This year, Republicans suffered a net loss of two Senate and three House seats in the South, but they lost five Senate seats and 18 House seats in other sections. No Republican House members are left in New England, and they have become ever scarcer in New York and Pennsylvania and across the Midwest."

Broder is right in his argument that Republicans have become an increasingly geographically isolated party -- with the south as its base and with a limited reach into the plains states like Oklahoma, Nebraska (where Obama carried a congressional district in 2008), South Dakota and North Dakota.

And, he is right, too, that in the Senate, the gains Republicans have made came largely in the South -- the GOP won open Senate seats in North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia and Florida in 2004 -- and have moved the party generally to the ideological right.

But, in the House, the south has lost power in recent years with the departures of Texans Tom DeLay and Dick Armey
and the ascension of John Boehner as the party's leader.

And, at the governor's level, many of the emerging leaders of the party -- Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota, Mitch Daniels of Indiana and Arnold Schwarzenegger of California -- don't come from the south. (Of course, Bobby Jindal of Louisiana, Mark Sanford of South Carolina and Charlie Crist of Florida do.)

There's little question that the last few elections have shown Republicans the folly of allowing the southern/conservative contingent of their party (led by President George W. Bush) run roughshod over the party. But, there are a number of leaders of the party outside of the south who have survived and thrived despite the rightward turn -- and are emerging as the strongest voices in the wake of the disasters of the last two elections.

As usual, Broder asks the right question going forward: "Will congressional Republicans again sacrifice their political interest to satisfy their Southern-baked ideological imperatives?"

The answer to that one could determine how quickly (and whether) the Republican party turns itself around in the coming years.

By Chris Cillizza  |  December 28, 2008; 11:32 AM ET
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I see it more as an Urban vs. Suburban/Rural Split (at least, in Obama vs. McCain).

I think that if I had lived in Manhattan or San Francisco that I would have been afraid to vote for McCain.

Posted by: newbeeboy | January 1, 2009 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Leap writes:

"The middle class is at home trying to keep up with their mortgage, other bills, and taxes. Well-to-do libs vacation in HI. Rich lib pols and celebs have the money."


LOL, is that so ?

I'm curious exactly how YOU would know that the middle class doesn't vacation in HI ? That it's only rich "libs".

As long as your peering in to that crystal ball, how about a call on this year's superbowl winner Nostradamus.

Watching the right scrambling for an angle to attack Obama is hilarious.

Barack the magic negro, the rich lib who vacations in HI ? Is this the best you have ?

He's a two termer for sure !


Posted by: mathas | January 1, 2009 8:11 AM | Report abuse

The Republicans should split into two different parties - one for the moderates and one for the right wing. Or one for the fiscal conservatives and one for the social conservatives. The Dems should do something similar.

Or moderate Republicans should free themselves of the ultra right wingers, then peel off some moderate Democrats and form a third party.

Two parties have always been so limiting.

Posted by: dognabbit | December 31, 2008 6:26 PM | Report abuse

gmro-

Check your history Lincoln was a Rep. He freed the slaves. Was this in your prooogressive history book?

Posted by: leapin | December 31, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans can have the poverty ridden South and their slave past. The Democrats finally got smart and abandoned trying to win in the South for the presidency. They shifted the voting majority to the New England/NY/Penn areas and out West where the MAJORITY of the population will be living in the US in the next 25 years. Texas too will be back in the Democrat party in 8-12 years. Obama's election is a major paradigm shift for geographic and political voting patterns. The South over time will become politically less significant in future presidential elections because of this. Bush is the end of the Souths' political stranglehold on the rest of the country.

Posted by: gmro | December 31, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

mathas-

The middle class is at home trying to keep up with their mortgage, other bills, and taxes. Well-to-do libs vacation in HI. Rich lib pols and celebs have the money.

Posted by: leapin | December 31, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

"Don't forget after 2010 the south will be picking up several seats and the dying north will lose several. Utah, a very Republican state, will also pick up a seat."


The GOP opens the 111th Congress with 178 House seats and probably 41 Senate seats.

When the 112th Congress is seated in January 2011, my guess is the GOP might, and I stress might, get back to 190 House seats and 43 in the Senate. And that's a best case scenario even after redistricting.

Your phrase the "dying" north ignores the fact that Obama also won in CO, NV, NM (all red in 2004), plus CA, OR and WA. And he came close in MT a state that now has 2 Senators and a Governor who are Democrats. We'll call this the Dems "living" west strategy.

Dems picked up John Porter's seat in the NV 3rd, Renzi's AZ 1st, Musgrave's CO 4th and picked up Senate seats in NM, OR, and in CO. So Dems control both Senate seats in WA, OR, CA, NM, and CO and one seat in NV (Reid is not going to lose his NV seat in 2010). And one more House seat from UT is not going to tip the balance of power in the House.

What's 'dying" is the GOP's hold on power. Consolidating power in their southern base, does little to help them become a broader national party.

Guys like Demint, Coburn and Corker, trying to run the country with 41 Senate seats and the filibuster, aren't going to make it any easier for guys like Specter to win reelection in PA in two years.

And what's the GOP message to the African American community ? Barack the magic negro is our theme song, Rush Limbaugh is our guru, ya'll come on in to our "big" tent ?

How about the Hispanic community ?

Any of this sinking down to the grey matter billy bob t ?

Posted by: mathas | December 31, 2008 7:44 AM | Report abuse

If the Republicans can't win in the north couldn't you also say the Democrats can't win in the South? If this had been a normal election the Republicans would have picked up several Senate and House seats in the south and hung on to some of the seats they lost in the north and thereby getting closer to getting a majority back. Don't forget after 2010 the south will be picking up several seats and the dying north will lose several. Utah, a very Republican state, will also pick up a seat.

Posted by: RobT1 | December 30, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

There is one other aspect of this that has been ignored. The R domination of the south has lead to a dearth of senior reps from the region. This has reinforced and exacerbated the North/South divide. For example, Minnesota has and Michigan had as many committee chairs (Oberstar, Peterson and Conyers, Dingell until he was unseated) as all of the South (Gordon, Spratt - Skelton doesn't count). All of the A committees are headed by Northerners or Californians. The R tactic of targeting senior southern Ds (e.g., Charlie Stenholm) has left the South relatively weaker within the D caucus. The Ds need to pay attention to Southern issues lest they drive swing voters back to the Rs.

Posted by: dingogumby | December 30, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

GOP is KKK lite. But a bit smarter, and more devious.

I remember 22 Nov 63, and fell deja vu all over again. I don't advise Barack to motorcade anywhere in the South, and surely not Dealy Plaza.

Yes, I really do feel there is that much hatred.

Posted by: HighPlainsJoker1 | December 30, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

King of Kook writes:

"So it seems according to Lib logic, that a single individual, of very limited intelligence and moral value, can ruin an economy and indeed the entire world almost singlehandedly."


Attempting to minimize the enormity of the hole that Bush has dug for this country may make you feel better (you voted for him twice, right ?) and it plays rather nicely in to the historical revisionism Bush and Cheney have been spewing the last few weeks, but the hole is still there nonetheless.

Posted by: mathas | December 30, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Obama is from Hawaii(or do you still buy that jive about him not being a natural born American ?).

Why wouldn't he vacation there ?

Plenty of middle class family do.

He honored his deceased Grandmother and is taking a little time to unwind after a long campaign and the transition period before he is sworn in.

If this is the best you've got, going after the guy for where he vacations, you're in for a long eight years.

Posted by: mathas | December 30, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Is BHO the champion of the little guy back from his extended vacation in HI?

Posted by: leapin | December 30, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

The political extreme right wing and extreme left wing....honestly, do they have legitimacy in dealing with our nation's very difficult problems? Are we not better served, from the center?

I look to the next four years as the beginning of the United States' revitalization....and I am not alone.

Posted by: skiloypet | December 30, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

The GOP is just the KKK lite

Posted by: rastybob | December 30, 2008 12:06 PM | Report abuse

The Republican party should change their name to the American Taliban party. They have wasted trillions on a war that was unnecessary, given us a clueless, priveleged coward as president for eight years, destroyed our economy in their rush to pander to lobbyists, deregulation, and the industrial/military complex, and done nothing to combat global warming and advance science education in our country(in fact, they are openly HOSTILE to both). The thing is, I'm a former Republican, born and raised, who used to listen to Rush Limbaugh every day. I didn't vote for a single Taliban in this election, and I haven't since the rise of Newt and Delay and Armey and the other scum elected in 1994. If they cannot get my vote, and the others like me, how the hell can they do anything? I hope they rot in Hell, and I wouldn't mind seeing a BUNCH of them tried for treason...including the Oxycodin poppin' Limblob!

Posted by: squirebass | December 30, 2008 11:14 AM | Report abuse

The South rises again.

Barack the magic Negro is their new theme song.

And neoconfederates like Demint, Coburn and Corker are calling the shots.

Enjoy the political wilderness righties, you're going to be lost in it for a long time.

Posted by: mathas | December 30, 2008 10:26 AM | Report abuse

"Do I have to say more???"

Yeah, you need to explain why the Dems sold us out when the trade deals are the bedrock of Republican policy that Clinton simply adapted, yo need to explain why Dems are responsible for the lobbying issue when the K-street transition since 2000 was solidly to Republican control, you need to explain how the Dems are responsible for not fixing lobbying problems in 2005 when Republicans dominated all three branches of the government at that time, and you need to explain your assertions that "Obama is at fault - he is an inexperienced person who refuses to think two moves down the chess board" when he clearly did just that in order to outmaneuver both Clinton and McCain to get elected and he doesn't understand the need to swing lobbying back ot he public interest when that was the central argument of his campaign.

Posted by: kreuz_missile | December 30, 2008 9:41 AM | Report abuse

Get lives, people . . .

Your partisan salvos should have at least diminished since the election, but some of you (king_of_zouk and fellow trolls) seem to have nothing to do except spew more (and sometimes worse) of your inane sharings of ignorance. For the record, I'm an equal-opportunity disparager of partisan ranters: ANYONE from EITHER side of the political divide who insists on over-simplifying the enormous difficulties we face is an idiot. Truth is, there is plenty of blame to go around, and solutions will require insightful thinking from persons of all political persuasions. If we continue to subscribe to knee-jerk partisanship that many of you embody, we'll be even deeper in the toilet.

Here's a New England proverb that many of you would be well-advised to heed: don't break the silence unless you can improve upon it. Some of you should be mute forever.

Posted by: post_reader_in_wv | December 30, 2008 9:15 AM | Report abuse

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The Destruction of the Campaign Finance System is an extremely important development: Let's make clear now the REPUBLICANS have a green light to do whatever they want now too.


Obama is at fault - he is an inexperienced person who refuses to think two moves down the chess board.


This country needs Campaign Finance Reform. This nation can not afford to have the lobbyists run wild and the public interest trampled on a daily basis.


This is the future Obama signaled in his campaign.

Obama is too inexperienced to realize how the balance between the lobbyists and the public interest has to shift back toward the public interest. The imbalance has led to the Wall Street DISASTER - BECAUSE THE DEMOCRATS SOLD THE COUNTRY OUT TO THE LOBBYISTS IN THE 90s.


By the time 2005 rolled around, there was no constraints on the lobbyists.


There is a system of checks and balances in this nation which was upset by the sell-outs of Bill Clinton and the DNC. We now are stuck with the trade deals which have destroyed Main Street and set off an internal migration in this nation from small towns to urban centers.


The lobbyists took advantage of the Democrats' sell-out of this nation by arranging for the Wall Street firms to run wild for years.


AND in 2005 when things had to be fixed, they prevented the fix.


Coincidence that Hillary was running for a New York Senate seat in the late 1990s - and then for President - raising cash from 2005 until this year ???


The democrats' raising cash in New York - selling out this nation as they went along with everything the Wall Street guys asked for and had the lobbyists set up.


Do I have to say more???


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Posted by: Yes37thandORulesForever | December 30, 2008 8:45 AM | Report abuse

This King of Zouk person seems to write similarly to that 37th and O fool. Are they one and the same?

Posted by: OHIOCITIZEN | December 30, 2008 6:27 AM | Report abuse

bsimon1 writes
"Actually, the song was written & recorded for the Limbaugh show quite some time ago. It was only distributed, not recorded, by the guy seeking the RNC chair. Your point is still valid."

Thank you for the clarification. So this guy dug up some old and forgotten racist parody to use as his calling card for the race of the RNC Chair? What kind of person does this? (yes, that was a rhetorical question)

I must say that I find the silence of the party's high profile members quite deafening.

Posted by: PeixeGato1 | December 30, 2008 1:22 AM | Report abuse

"what fun is a war that George Bush won over the protests of the Libs who insisted on surrendering and running in defeat."

Funny, I'm heading back there this summer. Someone forgot to tell the other side the war is over and we won, the body count clearly says so...

Posted by: kreuz_missile | December 29, 2008 7:21 PM | Report abuse

How soon we forget the Republicans may have pulled off yet another bamboozlerama in 2008 if not for the economic debacle. Their problem in this election was the majority of voters were too busy trying to pay for college, find jobs, save their shrinking investment portfolios, find health insurance, pay rising energy bills, and avoid another dumb war to be distracted by religion, guns, bigotry, and abortion. Earth to the RNC: come up with some real solutions, embrace substantive issues, and run real conservatives, or quit wasting our time.

Posted by: maxfli68 | December 29, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

"Number one Lib problem:

the government is just not big enough, is not spending enough"

W will be leaving with a trillion dollar deficit having taken office Jan 2001 with a $250 billion surplus and Hank Paulson and W orchestrated a $700 billion bailout. So I can only presume that those are the Libs you refer to.

Posted by: leichtman | December 29, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

incidentally, the messiah as you like to call him, will be your President just as W was mine. As a patriotic American, which you claim to be, you should join the rest of the nation on Jan 21, 2009 and pray that he can fix our broken economy as your President, as a messiah or common man, or we will all end up pushing shopping carts and living in Hoover towns. Whether that takes him 12 months or 48 months is really beside the point unless you are strangely hoping for his failure.

Posted by: leichtman | December 29, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Number one Lib problem:

the government is just not big enough, is not spending enough and is not taxing enough to satisfy every whim of every Lib donor.

Barack O'Claus, amazon ran out of Wiis. there ought to be a law.

Yet the new Lib congress needs every Dem to vote in lockstep, no debate, no contention, no thinking required or accepted.

the Lib solution - The SPLURGE!! don't ask, don't tell.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | December 29, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Democrats win 21 Congressional seats and 7 Senate seats they are so unpopular. The voters rejected R in Congress who's only answer for the economy is to obtain 41 Senate votes for a filibuster process they once derided; suddenly they have forgotten the nuclear option and up down vote. Let's see how far that goes with voters.

Posted by: leichtman | December 29, 2008 5:52 PM | Report abuse

the list of most pressing problems according to Libs:

Barney Fig is not getting enough tax money to flush down a hole

Nancy needs a bigger jet.

the enemy is not being read its Miranda rights while they are shooting at us.

Criminals might get shot while breaking and entering.

Kids are not paying enough to attend failing schools.

If only congress ran wall street and the auto industry and the airlines, everything would be fine.

Unions charge too little.

Health care is too innovative.

retirement is not expensive enough for the workers.

the military is obsolete.

Science is so icky, let's stick with speculation and fear mongering.

you should be allowed to marry any creature your body parts desire.

you should be allowed to kill any creature that can't fight back, especially babies and old people and the infirmed.

If you run out of money for stuff you want, raise taxes.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | December 29, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse

king_of_zouk: And what are the real problems facing America to which you refer? Let's see what has driven the conservaturds crazy as threats to America:

Gay marriage
Voting While Black
Playboy
Abortion
Personal choice in avoiding to live on feeding tubes
Gun control
Social security
Medicare
Medicaid
Clean air
Clean water
The Forbes 400 paying tax
Shareholder rights
Science
Middle East despots going nowhere fast (as long as they sit on oil reserves)
Muslims
Sex
The Social Gospel
Bureaucrats trying to tell the truth

So while Bush gives a Get Out Of Jail Free card to Osama bin Forgotten at Tora Bora, the right fulminates that gay marriage is a greater threat to America than al Qaeda.

Here's a new word for conservaturds: Truth.

Posted by: Garak | December 29, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Just like a dimwit Lib to get the idea that a single person can control and run the US markets.

No worry though, using your logic, the messiah will fix everything immediatley on Jan 21st.

Except he has already started stalling and saying it is going to take well into his second term to do all his work.

Same as Carter, his second term will be building houses for the homeless.

So it seems according to Lib logic, that a single individual, of very limited intelligence and moral value, can ruin an economy and indeed the entire world almost singlehandedly.

but a highly intelligent and morally rightous Lib can't be expected to do much of anything, even with the entire judicial, press, congress and voters backing him all the way.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | December 29, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

doofus - you are beginning to repeat yourself. Perhaps all those predictions about hillary's comeback victories stupified your brain. Or it could be your government school Lib education - in evidence by your grammar, spelling and wit.

If Bush is so far past, why are you still blaming all your problems on him? why hasn't the messiah and the lowly 9% congress fixed everything?

I'll answer it for you: how can you expect the morons who created the problems - aka - the Libs in congress, to suddenly realize how incompitint (sic) they are?

Posted by: king_of_zouk | December 29, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

"Christopher Cox was nominated by President George W. Bush to be the 28th Chairman of the United States Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) on June 2, 2005"

W, not Pelosi made that disastrous selection just like Brownie and Paulson, that is laughed at daily on that liberal station CNBC for their incompitent mismanagement of the markets.

Posted by: leichtman | December 29, 2008 5:17 PM | Report abuse

"The three TV networks have stopped sending full-time correspondents to Iraq."


what fun is a war that George Bush won over the protests of the Libs who insisted on surrendering and running in defeat.

now that they are elected, the process of lowering expectations can begin. how low? can you say Bush 3?

Posted by: king_of_zouk | December 29, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

honesty and integrity something lacking from the tired old party.
Obviously you just don't get it. For 12 months we have read your rants how great the GOP is, how they would blow away their opponents in Nov and how great the GOP has been for the markets. You are still in a state of denial since Nov and obviously you will attack anyone who listens to your drivel. Obviously you just don't get it. Bush and your politics is the past, the far far past and absolutely no one other than you and and his 19 percenters would even consider defending his disastrous 8 year of incompitence. Don't recall seeing him on the campiagn trail much for McCain or the GOP Congress; wonder why? No one in this country cares a lick about W or your trite use of the word liberal,especially as a substutute for Compitence or good governance. Every Republican I have spoken to has run far far away from W. The voters have spoken and its obvious the economic markets have spoken, your time and your incompitent Party's time is over-they are done.

Posted by: leichtman | December 29, 2008 5:08 PM | Report abuse

"The voters have spoken and the markets have spoken:"

Indeed, as soon as it was apparent that the Libs would win, the markets crashed.

but your ideas on the subject are in line with the 9% who still cling to approving of the PeLousy/Reid congress who ruined our economy and prosperity.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | December 29, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

a new word to ad to your limited vocabulary.

Posted by: leichtman


Here are some new words to add to your Lib dictionary. I am pretty sure you have no idea what they mean:

honesty
integrity
diligence
"is"
responsibility
"inappropriate"
decision
morals
values
frugality
savings
prosperity
merit
valour
profit
success

Posted by: king_of_zouk | December 29, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

obviously you just don't get it. Bush is the past, the far far past and absolutely no one other than you and his 19 percenters still defend him. No one cares a lick about W, or your trite and boring use of the word liberal, as an excuse for incompitence. The voters have spoken and the markets have spoken, your time and your Incompitent Party's time is over.

Posted by: leichtman | December 29, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

the perspicacity of a Lib and your money:

''I think this is a case where Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae are fundamentally sound. They're not in danger of going under I think they are in good shape going forward.'' -- Barney Frank (D-Mass.), House Financial Services Committee chairman, July 14, 2008

Lib response - Blame Bush

Posted by: king_of_zouk | December 29, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

speaking of limited vocabularies - the Libs use a single word to refer to everything evil in the world - bush.

how urbane of you nitwits.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | December 29, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

"Do you think mainstream liberalism will ever be ashamed of its behavior and expression during the George W. Bush years?"


For a year now zouk I have read your limited vocabulary posts using the word liberal as a euphemism for making your ad hominem attacks against everything you disagree with.

The voters have spoken though you may have slept during the election and have loudly stated that they don't want to hear the words liberal, conservative, red/blue, northern/southern any more. After Katrina, Abu Ghraib, Bear Sterns, Madoff, states like California with a 41 billion dollar deficit on the verge of collapsing, pensions being destroyed and the potential GM bankruptcy, they are truly fed up with the incompitence and ineptitude coming out of the Whitehouse and hearing attaks as your's as a substitute for good governance, which is all anyone wants any longer. When W and his remaining 20% followers leave the reigns of government in 3 weeks, the nation will breath a collective sigh of relief. Hope your stock portfolios has suffered the same anguish as the rest of the nation and pray that in 2009 you find a new word to ad to your limited vocabulary.

Posted by: leichtman | December 29, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

We’ve been reading a lot lately along the lines of, “Whoa, the Obama administration faces some extremely serious problems and threats: a nuclearizing Iran, a plotting al-Qaeda, a deranged North Korea, a financial meltdown . . .”

Oh, really? But they have been problems all along — I mean, our real problems. Not the problems we’ve been reading about, such as, “Bush is trying to take away our civil liberties, and he’s listening in on our phone conversations, and he’s torturing detainees, and he’s flushing Korans down the toilet, and he’s firing U.S. attorneys, and he’s loading the water with arsenic, and he’s lining the pockets of Enron and Halliburton, and he’s removing the ozone layer, and he’s whipping up hurricanes in order to torment black people, and . . .”

Do you think mainstream liberalism will ever be ashamed of its behavior and expression during the George W. Bush years?

Posted by: king_of_zouk | December 29, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Ech. How did "Obama the Magic Negro" become such a focal point of this thread? Sure, it's in poor taste, but I don't think it's indicative of any sort of racist undercurrent. Applying some sort of "Oh, well, that just proves the Republicans are a pack of racists" logic to it is just as loopy as applying the "They're both from Chicago so they're exactly the same!" logic to Barack Obama and Rod Blagojevich.

If it's indicative of anything, I'd say it's indicative of the phenomenon that is conservative humor, whereby the joke can only be considered funny if it offends liberals. Remember how popular that Fox News version of "The Daily Show" wasn't?

Posted by: GJonahJameson | December 29, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

The fiction of supply side economics could not be more clearly demonstrated by its failure under their regime and its most obvious model, the Robber Barons Era.

Posted by: chuckbutcher |


Actually, things were going swell until PeLousy, dodd and Frank took over. when will you Libs begin to deal with the facts and accept your errors?

even Obama wouldn't dare turn the Army over to his own party. Left it in R hands instead. first good decision ever.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | December 29, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

The real problem with Republicans isn't so much racism in fact as it is their amusement with something that wouldn't pass muster on an elementary school playground. The simplistic childlike thinking that is reflected by that amusement is what runs that party. The lack of ability to connect the dots that would result in a recognition of the insult involved runs through out their "platform." The fiction of supply side economics could not be more clearly demonstrated by its failure under their regime and its most obvious model, the Robber Barons Era.

Posted by: chuckbutcher | December 29, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

I got one for you. "Rush the Magic Cracker, lived by the sea. He likes to take those prescription pills and now he's a Junkie!"

Happy Holidays, Rush

Regards,

Virtue Lord Purple

Posted by: LordPurple | December 29, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

I work investigating Dem corruption.

business is booming.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | December 29, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

"simple simon - here's some help with your counting problem, and by problem I mean how do you cheat your way to a victory:"

Thanks for thinking of me in your time of need. It warms my heart to know that I am in your thoughts when your own situation is far more dire than mine. I appreciate your interest in my well-being very much. I hope the holiday season finds you well.

And good luck with the job search.

Posted by: bsimon1 | December 29, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

simple simon - here's some help with your counting problem, and by problem I mean how do you cheat your way to a victory:

If there is an X next to Coleman, it means, I meant to cross off that person.

If there is an X next to Franken, it means, I choose this person.

Proceed.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | December 29, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

These sorts of observations are always amusing to me. With congress flirting with the single digits in approval ratings yet again I wonder if the question will ever be asked, "Will New England tire of their Democrat representatives." Then I laugh. Of course that won't be asked.

Posted by: tk221 | December 29, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

"I'm really coming into this as somebody who isn't, you know, part of the system, who obviously, you know, stands for the values of, you know, the Democratic Party," Kennedy told the Daily News Saturday during a wide-ranging interview.

"I know how important it is to, you know, to be my own person. And, you know, and that would be obviously true with my relationship with the mayor."


It's like, you know, I ummm, you know, went to, an Ivy, you know, like, you know and I ummmm, like, will get along with, you know, like Franken really cool, haha.

now let's play "spot the Loony"

Pelosi, Reid, dodd, Frank, Franken, Kennedy, other Kennedy, Moran, Schumer, Hastings, Jackson, Jefferson, Wrangle, Murtha, Kerry, clinton, Webb, boxer.

trick question, it's all of them.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | December 29, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Sen. Reid, however, faces a potentially tough fight. A recent Research 2000 poll of likely voters put his approval rating at 38% and his disapproval rating at 54%, a possible reflection of voters' displeasure with gridlock and partisanship in Washington.


what we think of the Lib rulers.


Approval of Congress’ job performance has plunged to single digits again for the first time since early September, says the latest Rasmussen Reports.


In the wake of the on-again, off-again auto bailouts, only 9 percent give Congress good or excellent ratings, while 54 percent give the legislature poor marks. Just 2 percent think Congress is doing an excellent job.

the predictable result of Lib governance. give them the reigns for only two short years and they wipe out a decade of prosperity.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | December 29, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

To: "Uh_huhh"

... or was that sarcasm? Kind of depends on the lens through which it's viewed. The architects of the Southern Strategy might applaud you for your trenchant wit.

Posted by: scrivener50 | December 29, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Broder has been senile and clueless for about 3 or 4 years now. They have to call him the Dean because otherwise no one would pay any attention to him whatsoever. this is just more of the Lib press applauding itself.
If you don't read the paper, you are uninformed. If you do read the paper, you are misinformed - Twain. not sheniah.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | December 29, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

TO: "Uh_huhh"

Were you born a Frat Boy Nazi, or did you have to be carefully taught?

Posted by: scrivener50 | December 29, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Four words that say it all:
"Obama, the Magic Negro."

Posted by: uh_huhh | December 29, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

In answer to "nicekid," Broder is commonly referred to as the "dean" of national political reporters because he's been doing it longer than anyone. It has to do with length of service. I'm the dean of people who walk dogs on our block.

Posted by: chuckbarb23 | December 29, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

blert asks
"What is meant by "Southern-baked ideological imperatives"?"

If you read the Broder article, he cites two recent examples of southerner-led intra-party revolts within the GOP. The first was on immigration reform where the party shut down the President's immigration reform compromise - which later damaged Senator McCain's bid to become President, with the loss of the Hispanic vote. Example two was the recent killing of the Detroit bailout, again led by southern Repubs.

While it is true that the GOP base exists nationwide, they are only a large enough political force in the south to actually get significant numbers of Repubs elected to federal office. The positions that appeal to the base do not appeal to the youth vote, to moderate voters or to minority voters. If the party wants to rebuild strength outside the south, they will have to moderate their ideology to broaden their base. Until that happens, they will be increasingly marginalized.

Posted by: bsimon1 | December 29, 2008 11:36 AM | Report abuse

PeixeGato1 writes
"Just when you think maybe, just maybe the Republicans will see what is going on and will begin to change their tune and tactics. Then, you get "Obama, the magic Negro", recorded and released by a man who is hoping to become the leader of the party."

Actually, the song was written & recorded for the Limbaugh show quite some time ago. It was only distributed, not recorded, by the guy seeking the RNC chair. Your point is still valid.

Posted by: bsimon1 | December 29, 2008 11:18 AM | Report abuse

And with a southern retarded party you get RNC candidates who think racism is funny.

Keep it up, you're continuing to make yourselves less and less relevant.

Posted by: AngryLiberal | December 29, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse


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There is no coincidence that Hillary was fundraising in New York when these measures were passed with the CLINTON ADMINISTRATION PUSHING THEM THROUGH - there is NO DOUBT THAT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY SOLD OUT THIS COUNTRY WHEN THE GLASS-STEAGALL ACT WAS REPEALED:


The Democrats also sold out Main Street and the Unions when they pushed through NAFTA and the China trade deals on fast track approvals -


We report - YOU decide:


May 1998 : Over objections of other financial regulators, Born issues "concept release," questioning whether unregulated derivatives contracts should get government oversight like exchange-traded futures contracts do.

November 1999: Congress passes law to dismantle Depression-era Glass-Steagall law, which had separated commercial and investment banking. The law does not give the Securities and Exchange Commission authority to regulate investment bank holding companies, which were trading heavily in unregulated derivatives contracts.

November 1999: A President's Working Group report on derivatives recommended no CFTC regulation, saying that it "would otherwise perpetuate legal uncertainty or impose unnecessary regulatory burdens and constraints upon the development of these markets in the United States."


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Posted by: Yes37thandORulesForever | December 29, 2008 10:17 AM | Report abuse

THE GOP RENAISSANCE WILL NOT BEGIN UNTIL THE PARTY RENOUNCES ABUSES SUCH AS THIS:

DOMESTIC TORTURE VIA RADIATION WEAPONRY:
AMERICA'S HORRIFIC SHAME

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/domestic-torture-radiation-weaponry-americas-horrific-shame

OR Members.NowPublic.com/scrivener

Posted by: scrivener50 | December 29, 2008 10:07 AM | Report abuse

Schwarzeneggar is indicative of nothing nationwide.

Pawlenty, a supposed rising star in the GOP, barely hung on to re-election in 2006 (compare that to red state Democratic governors in WY, MT and KS who won re-election easily).

Daniels won re-election against a very weak Jill Long Thompson - in a year that Obama won Indiana. Daniels was grossly unpopular in 2006 and contributed to the Democrats picking up 3 seats there that year. But Daniels recovered in time for 2008. Rising star? Not likely.

Jindal is the real rising star. And the declining oil wealth in Louisiana is putting his leadership to the test.

Posted by: ElrodinTennessee | December 29, 2008 10:02 AM | Report abuse

Maybe if the Republican Party did not make up songs like Obama the Magic Negro, they would be taken seriously as something more than just a racist group of old men, and America is tired of the good ole boys and want change, any change from the good ole days of the good ole south and their racist attitudes that are obviously still alive with their new CD just sent to the Party Elite.

Patrick

Posted by: patmatthews | December 29, 2008 6:06 AM | Report abuse

What is meant by "Southern-baked ideological imperatives"?

If, by this turn of words, Broder means issues like abortion and gay marriage (i.e., these specifically, and the various other social stands that Republicans have taken in the last couple decades or so), then his point rings absurd, at least geographically. Yes, these have been hot issues among Southern voters, but California also just passed a gay marriage ban, and such laws were wildly popular in places like Ohio, Wisconsin, and elsewhere, too.

Likewise, the chief state battleground for abortion right now is South Dakota where the legislature and voters are locked in a struggle over setting the most restrictive abortion laws in the country these past few years.

In short, Republican social issues, if these are indeed the "ideological" concerns alluded to, are pretty dispersed geographically. They don't play as well in the Northeast and in some other places, granted, but I think the losses in those states have been less about these issues (since the Republicans in those states tend to be pro-gay marriage and pro-abortion anyway) and more about Bush and about a general image problem that Republicans have.

And with this image problem perhaps Republicans are finding the problem with making themselves so wildly popular in the South: when one's poster boy is a Southern redneck who seems to flaunt an uneducated style (and I don't necessarily mean Bush with this statement, even if he does partially fit into it), that this would send educated Northeasterners fleeing is no real surprise.

Posted by: blert | December 29, 2008 5:08 AM | Report abuse

Who designated Broder dean of the political press corps? Is it an elected position? Appointed? If so, who does the appointing? Is it because he's the oldest member? Is it a matter of enough people saying he's the dean to make it so? Or is just Chris Cillizza saying it that makes it so?

I just don't understand how this dean process works.

Posted by: nicekid | December 29, 2008 4:37 AM | Report abuse

"Obama, the magic Negro"! That pretty well sums up the Republican Party today.

Posted by: OscarMayer2 | December 29, 2008 1:02 AM | Report abuse

Has anyone else seen this new Santa Flame Thrower Game, Huge hit on the web. It has charachtears of McCain looking like Santa and Elves that Look like Palin. SHe is one of the elves that gets toasted by santa. Play it for free at http://www.CrimesWeekly.com CrimesWeekly.com and tell me its not suppose to be look-a-likes, it looks just like them.

Posted by: pastor123 | December 29, 2008 12:47 AM | Report abuse

The answer depends on where they get their money from.

Posted by: rupertornelius | December 28, 2008 8:38 PM | Report abuse

Just when you think maybe, just maybe the Republicans will see what is going on and will begin to change their tune and tactics. Then, you get "Obama, the magic Negro", recorded and released by a man who is hoping to become the leader of the party.

You can't make this stuff up!

Posted by: PeixeGato1 | December 28, 2008 6:46 PM | Report abuse

Luckily for the Democrats, the Republican party just does not get it. Republicans are losing the growing demographic groups and their party is going to be smaller and weaker the longer they go with their antipopulist, antipeople agenda. In 2008 they lost voters who were women, non-white, college educated, urban, suburban, non weekly church goers, and hispanics. All of these groups are increasing in numbers.
Republicans are now a white, evangelical, rural party of Southern males who still have a strong anti-blacks bias. So they carried Appalacian counties and most of old Confederate states. All of these groups are shrinking in numbers.
It was NOT just the great campaign of Barak Obama. They lost more Senate seats in 2008 (8) than 2006(6)and won nearly as many House seats. Although in 2008 the Democrats also lost 5 house seats in the South. And the more the Republicans cling to their Southern conservative views with regards to both cultural and economic issues, the more their pary will shrink.
This is a good thing for the United States in the short run as the Democratic Party is far better at governing and creating a more just and equal society. In the long run, we may miss having more than one political party.
Remember the title of Chritine Todd Whitman's book? "It's my party too." No, Governor Whitman. It isn't any more.

Posted by: abowers1 | December 28, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

The country does not like long wars - the democrats exploited this by first supporting the war than attacking the war for years on end. THE DEMOCRATS DID NOT SUPPORT THIS NATION IN THE IRAQI WAR - THE WAR WAS WON WITHOUT THEM.


Not an easy task.


The democrats have shown that electoral gains at home are more important to them then our NATIONAL SECURITY IN THE MIDDLE EAST.


Clinton was lax in his Middle Eastern policy and look where it got us.


Clinton caused our intelligence forces to be basically "blind" by the time 9/11 hit. The democrats are weak on National Security and it really is pathetic.


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Posted by: Yes37thandORulesForever | December 28, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

"Obviously that will not happen in 2012. Arizona and Texas are the next States that will go Democratic probably in 2012 but no later than 2016, with Oklahoma to follow next."

Arizona is on the bubble; Texas a bit further off 2016-2020, most likely.

I have no idea what you're thinking when you put Oklahoma on the list; at the federal level, that's one of the most out-of-reach states for the Democrats; they've got no senators and only one of five Congressmen; it's been trending more Republican lately; in 2008 it was the only state in the Union where Obama didn't win a single county, replacing Utah as the most Republican state.

Posted by: scurley1 | December 28, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

I would not classify Pawlenty or (especially) Schwarzenegger as "emerging leaders"; the former is a likeable but milquetoast sort, the latter is more or less persona non grata in the California Republican Party these days.

Andrew Sullivan wrote about this in 2006 just after the midterms; while individual leadership positions (Boehner, for example) are not Southern, the Congressional and Electoral College bases of the Republican Party are now very much the Party of Dixie.

Posted by: scurley1 | December 28, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Politics has never been about party ideology; ideology changes with the times and is largely shaped by opportunists seeking power. It's where the opportunists center their power this is of concern. Bush, Cheney, Rove, Delay et al centered their power with the extreme right--now the party is paying the price as most Americans are not ultra conservative in their views. The moderates re-claimed their government and kicked the republican powerhouses to the curb.

Posted by: txgall | December 28, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

The republicans will continue to lose seats as long as they remain the party of the ultra-right wing conservative anti-women voters. To compound their problems is the rise of the Hispanic voters that has already cost them Colorado and New Mexico and would have cost them Arizona if McCain had not been on the ticket. Obviously that will not happen in 2012. Arizona and Texas are the next States that will go Democratic probably in 2012 but no later than 2016, with Oklahoma to follow next. Republicans are finished as a National Party until they can return to the party of Eisenhower, Rockefeller and even Gerald Ford. Those guys were reasonable conservative republicans. These guys they got now are radicals and headed for the scrapheap. Too bad because this country needs a strong two-party system and when one of the two succumbs into its radical minority, the country will suffer

Posted by: Opa2 | December 28, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Good to see the Dean back in form. Great stuff.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | December 28, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

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