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Fix Poll: Tomorrow's Political Headline Today

With governors races in New Jersey and Virginia as well as a very unpredictable House special election in upstate New York on the ballot tomorrow, the Democratic and Republican spin machines are working in overdrive at the moment.

Democratic Governors Association executive director Nathan Daschle has released a memo to the media detailing the long historical odds his party faced in winning either of the two gubernatorial races up for grabs tomorrow.

"If Republicans can't win both races with the wind at their backs, their top recruits on the ballot, multi-million dollar investments and history in their corner, that will tell us a lot about whether Americans really want a Republican comeback," wrote Daschle.

Republicans, meanwhile, are doing everything they can to hype up the fact that President Barack Obama carried Virginia, New Jersey and New York's 23rd district in the 2008 election, making even one GOP win in those three places a clear sign that the president's electoral appeal is waning.

What headline do you think will emerge from tomorrow's votes? We've proposed four options below. Make your voice heard in the Fix Poll below.

And, for the millions(!) of people wondering whether we will have a Fix election prediction contest for tomorrow's votes, the answer is, of course, yes. So, look out for a post tomorrow soliciting your picks -- with percentages. At stake? An official Fix t-shirt.

By Chris Cillizza  |  November 2, 2009; 3:01 PM ET
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Thanks for your reply this morning, KOZ.

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If you really think you can cajole zouk into civil behavior then you haven't learned much about humanity in your sixty-odd years.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | November 3, 2009 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Loud and dumbb is hyperactive tonight. but where is NAMBLA?

Posted by: snowbama | November 2, 2009 5:57 PM | Report abuse
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Meeting at Mark Foley's house ? Or was it changed to Limbaugh's ?

Posted by: dennissuper | November 3, 2009 9:58 AM | Report abuse

I believe that Virginia will go solidly Republican. McDonnell will take the governor's race handily & Cuccinelli will capture the Attorney General title, Bill Bolling will also be reelected as Va. state Attorney General. Republicans will also pick up good seats in the General Assembly, handing McDonnell even more power to push through his agenda for Virginia. McDonnell has been a great candidate and has ran a great race. It's much needed for the Virginia Republican party & McDonnell was just the man to get it done. This, however, will not be the big story b/c everyone knows this is going to happen in Virginia. It's going back purple for now, Red in 2010 & beyond if McDonnell does a good job governing.

New Jersey will be extremely tight. I think Obama's last minute visits to rally voters for Corzine may well put him over the edge for a win. If it does, in this highly democratic state, this will not be the "big story". If Christie edges out a win tonight, however, Obama loses alot of political capital he spent on Corzine and then this becomes a story. I, honestly, do not know what will happen and it's too close to call.

The big story will be in New York. Mike Bloomberg will win reelection in NYC handily. In NY-23, a Hoffman win will put the emphasis on the Republican party, their grassroots energy & the "civil war" within the Republican party. I think that will be the big story here. I think this is what the mainstream media will focus on. So my vote goes, "it's Palin's party, conservatives win in New York."

1 other big story that you have overlooked, CC, is that an openly lesbian woman is poised to become the mayor of Houston, Texas. This will be a big story if it occurs.

Posted by: reason5 | November 3, 2009 9:57 AM | Report abuse

When Bush was our President 3.6 million manufacturing jobs were lost. How can the people in Virginia or New Jersey vote for another Republican? Here is a Link that gives details about the failed economic policies of Bush and the Republicans: http://budget.house.gov/doc-library/fy2009/7.31.08_Bush%20economic_%20and%20fiscal_%20record.pdf

Posted by: Dan1967wewon | November 3, 2009 2:54 AM | Report abuse

Mark. Unlike in the old days, it is almost impossible
to find any intelligent posters on this blog any longer. The rabid
idiot leftists have driven everyone off with the daily
flood of miasma.

==

Says the guys whose posts are limited to infantile name-calling and plagiarism.

You're one to talk ...

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | November 2, 2009 11:54 PM | Report abuse

Mark. Unlike in the old days, it is almost impossible
to find any intelligent posters on this blog any longer. The rabid
idiot leftists have driven everyone off with the daily
flood of miasma. It used to be only the deranged drivl, but that phenomena has multiplied as is easily observable. The tone is so anti intellectual as to be unmanageable by the host.

Shame really. We used to have good, honest factual debates.

I think the tide is turning. This election will severly discredit the short lived attempt at socialism. The embarassment that these people represent will not be in fashion more than a few more months. They will be considered borderline again very soon.

Posted by: snowbama | November 2, 2009 11:36 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for your reply this morning, KOZ.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | November 2, 2009 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Even if that's true zouk they'll have jobs before the weeks is out, and you'll still be staring out the window at the parking lot ranting about how much you hate people who get visitors while you get none.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | November 2, 2009 9:47 PM | Report abuse

There will be at least three more out of work liberals tomorrow. These jobs were not saved or created by the flim flam obimbo. Quite the contrary.

Posted by: snowbama | November 2, 2009 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Why don't you just get a job and stop whining for someone to bail you out. If you need a handout then bug your parents for it.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | November 2, 2009 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Democrats would be smart if they would quickly vote on unemployment extention for Americans tomorrow morning ASAP before returns come in.

Posted by: mattadamsdietmanager1014 | November 2, 2009 9:05 PM | Report abuse

You guys have been talking "backlash" for a quarter century. It's your opiate.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | November 2, 2009 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Well with the high unemployment rate in Vitginia,Newyork, and New Jersey, Democrats were stupid once again for not extenting those American people's unemployment benefits. Another day has slipped by. They will take it out on President Obama and Democrats at the voting booth tomorrow. I see a clean sweep for Republicans.

Posted by: mattadamsdietmanager1014 | November 2, 2009 8:58 PM | Report abuse

Hey BWJ. Let's just enjoy his being gone and let the memory of his idiocy fade out.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | November 2, 2009 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Headline tomorrow: Deranged wingnut blogger reads about Owens win in NY-23 and vows never to post in the Fox again. Authorities called when blogger runs down street in pajamas demanding to see President's long form birth certificate.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | November 2, 2009 8:55 PM | Report abuse

This has got to be one of the most bizarre stories in decades.

First of all, Republican roaring in triumph not because a Republican could win, rather because she definitely won't. Can't make this stuff up.

Second, a guy who looks like an obsessive-compulsive foreclosure officer at some small-town bank with bad hygiene and who harbors some kind of weird private fetish is sailing to an unearned victory on a pile of outsider money, and nobody raises an eyebrow at that.

Third, despite a clearly engineered political victory, even those involved in the deception are claiming it's a grass-roots affair.

You really have to wonder about the sanity of the teabaggers.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | November 2, 2009 8:51 PM | Report abuse

Headline

dems lose in clean sweep. Buyers remorse full and complete. Will dems ever win another election? Obama lame duck and poison to reelection efforts. Socialism rebuked.

Posted by: snowbama | November 2, 2009 8:37 PM | Report abuse

With all of the parties and drinking and carrying on going on in the Obama White House, i wonder what they will be doing tomorrow night? Probably watching the election returns on Fox News!

Posted by: kenpasadena | November 2, 2009 8:25 PM | Report abuse

"The history of Columbus has been a point of contention between academics for hundreds of years. Those disagreements involve the navigator’s true identity"

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and his birth certificate.....

Posted by: JRM2 | November 2, 2009 8:21 PM | Report abuse

...Subject Mr. Snowobama has continued to post foolish rants and insults on a right leaning blog from 3:06 pm to 7:39pm. Subject's condition still defies proper diagnosis despite our best efforts. Further observation is recommended...

cc: Nurse Ratchit

Posted by: broadwayjoe | November 2, 2009 8:00 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Barry will take his own advice and get a fresh start. Root out corruption, make a decision, his first and fight the bad guys.

Posted by: snowbama | November 2, 2009 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Columbus - The Untold Story to be Published in Spain
NewswireToday - /newswire/ - Madalena, Pico, Azores, Portugal, 10/26/2009 - Controversial Christopher Columbus is about to get even more controversial. New findings incriminate Columbus as a crafty spy for the crown of Portugal, according to the author of COLUMBUS: The Untold Story, to be released November 24, in Seville.

The history of Columbus has been a point of contention between academics for hundreds of years. Those disagreements involve the navigator’s true identity, his place of birth and his true motive for heading west across the Atlantic in search of India.

Columbus academics know, that in 1488, Columbus was allowed by the King of Portugal to witness a vital Portuguese secret: a detailed map of the discovery of the Cape of Good Hope. Therefore the question arises as to why Columbus didn’t take that shorter route around Africa in 1492. This is only one of the many questions that Columbus scholar and author, Manuel Rosa, has focused on answering during his 18-year-long investigation…
http://www.newswiretoday.com/news/59551/

Posted by: damas1 | November 2, 2009 7:30 PM | Report abuse

"Isn't this just another example of what Nate Silver identified as PAC money persuing small state senators because they are cheaper to , um, BUY then senators from large states?http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/08/real-problem-with-senates-small-state.html

I feel like the Conservatives have identified CD23 and Hoffman as a sweet deal: for hardly any money at all they get a seat in Congress.

Posted by: margaretmeyers"

Yup, that's exactly what this is. Owens has absolutely crushed Hoffman in terms of instate donors. CFG has donated money to Hoffman and has also poured in money for their own ads including scam ads trying to posit the Republican candidate as the Democratic choice.

Posted by: DDAWD | November 2, 2009 7:21 PM | Report abuse

So the government of the ultra corrupt, ballot box stuffing, loony friend hiring, foreign money grubbing, single party, press fearing .........


Election is tomorrow.

The one in Afghanistan was cancelled.

What will be the lame decision avoiding excuse now?

Fore!

Posted by: snowbama | November 2, 2009 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Isn't this just another example of what Nate Silver identified as PAC money persuing small state senators because they are cheaper to , um, BUY then senators from large states?http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/08/real-problem-with-senates-small-state.html

I feel like the Conservatives have identified CD23 and Hoffman as a sweet deal: for hardly any money at all they get a seat in Congress.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | November 2, 2009 7:04 PM | Report abuse

"Palin Power leads grassroots candidate to upset win in NY 23. NJ goes to a recount and makes the MN Senate race of last year look cordial. McDonnell's margin of victory is the largest since George Allen's victory in '93. Maine becomes the first state to legalize gay marriage by the consent of the voters."

Bloomberg wins by single digits in a closer than expected race, Menino goes down in Boston. Atlanta elects their first white mayor since the '70s. California congressional race ends up closer than expected (6-8 pts) in a district Obama won with 65% last year.

Posted by: TexasProud1 | November 2, 2009 7:01 PM | Report abuse

"What is it with Snowy and the Man-Boy Love thing? Shouldn't he be looking for that connection on a personals page?

Posted by: margaretmeyers"

Meh, just a typical Republican racist. That's just how it manifests in this one particular instance.

Posted by: DDAWD | November 2, 2009 6:57 PM | Report abuse

What is it with Snowy and the Man-Boy Love thing? Shouldn't he be looking for that connection on a personals page?

Posted by: margaretmeyers | November 2, 2009 6:49 PM | Report abuse

"anti-incumbent movement that has swept the country"

So far, it looks more like the GOP is holding a circular firing squad.

Posted by: nodebris | November 2, 2009 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Loud and dumbb is hyperactive tonight. but where is NAMBLA?

Posted by: snowbama | November 2, 2009 5:57 PM | Report abuse

The "anti-incumbent movement that has swept the country" exists mainly in your head.

Posted by: drindl


claims the moonnbat who is out of her head!

Posted by: snowbama | November 2, 2009 5:55 PM | Report abuse

The "anti-incumbent movement that has swept the country" exists mainly in your head.

Posted by: drindl | November 2, 2009 5:51 PM | Report abuse

"Really, the headline SHOULD be more along the lines of the anti-incumbent mood has swept the country (NJ,"

agreed, but in NJ it's the particular incumbent. He's been really unpopular during much of his term. And he still may win.

"VA (though an open seat)"

Disagree. If anything, Deeds has failed to make the case that he WOULD continue the policies of Gov. Kaine. There is zero indication that votes against Deeds represent anti-Kaine votes.

"and mayor races in Boston, Seattle, etc)."

Not sure about this either. From what I've read, the challenge to Mumbles Menino in Boston is more of a generational thing.

"Anyone who knows what will happen in NY 23 is a liar because there is no way to accurately project what is going on.

Agree -- this is one of the more bizarre races in recent US political history."

"There really isn't anything that resembles this outside of the MN Senate race where a 3rd party candidate tipped the results to the retread comedian."

That and the fact that Norm Coleman was a tired hack who was even in the Senate only because of the Wellstone plane crash.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | November 2, 2009 5:48 PM | Report abuse

Really, the headline SHOULD be more along the lines of the anti-incumbent mood has swept the country (NJ, VA (though an open seat) and mayor races in Boston, Seattle, etc). Anyone who knows what will happen in NY 23 is a liar because there is no way to accurately project what is going on. There really isn't anything that resembles this outside of the MN Senate race where a 3rd party candidate tipped the results to the retread comedian.

Posted by: TexasProud1 | November 2, 2009 5:31 PM | Report abuse

"I guess presupposing a good campaign from the Deeds camp was the major mistake."

I was also mistaken in thinking that Deeds would run a decent campaign. C'est la guerre.

Posted by: nodebris | November 2, 2009 5:24 PM | Report abuse

"DDAWD, when did you predict a Deeds win? Months ago? The last time he was within shouting distance was right after the McDonnell thesis came to light.

Posted by: koolkat_1960"

It was shortly after he won the nomination. I know he was behind McDonnell at the time, but I figured it was due to his being an unknown and with a good campaign, he would be able to catch up.

I guess presupposing a good campaign from the Deeds camp was the major mistake.

Posted by: DDAWD | November 2, 2009 5:11 PM | Report abuse

""With losses by Christie and Deeds, DDAWD goes 0-2 in predicting the governors races. Future as genius prognosticator called into doubt."

Let's see if any newspaper leads with that."

DDAWD, when did you predict a Deeds win? Months ago? The last time he was within shouting distance was right after the McDonnell thesis came to light.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | November 2, 2009 5:04 PM | Report abuse

A win by "Green Teeth" Hoffman will give Sarah Palin an even more inflated view of her own importance and increase the chances she will mount a serious campaign for the GOP nomination in 2012.

Oh please. Oh please.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | November 2, 2009 5:02 PM | Report abuse

A win by "Green Teeth" Hoffman will give Sarah Palin an even more inflated view of her own importance and increase the chances she will mount a serious campaign for the GOP nomination in 2012.

Oh please. Oh please.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | November 2, 2009 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Palin Power leads grassroots candidate to upset win in NY 23. NJ goes to a recount and makes the MN Senate race of last year look cordial. McDonnell's margin of victory is the largest since George Allen's victory in '93. Maine becomes the first state to legalize gay marriage by the consent of the voters.

Posted by: TexasProud1 | November 2, 2009 4:52 PM | Report abuse

"With losses by Christie and Deeds, DDAWD goes 0-2 in predicting the governors races. Future as genius prognosticator called into doubt."

Let's see if any newspaper leads with that.

Posted by: DDAWD | November 2, 2009 4:46 PM | Report abuse

RE: TODAY'S DRUDGE REPORT 'BARACK AND BONES' SKINNY OBAMA HEADLINE...

...Just what is the possible taunting, sadistic message behind this cover story selection?

Could it have anything to do with THIS?

***

GOV'T TORTURES ME WITH SILENT MICROWAVE WEAPONS, SAYS OUSTED HONDURAS PREZ

• Deposed Honduras President Manuel Zaleya confirms the essence what unjustly targeted citizens worldwide -- including this journalist -- have been reporting for years...

...MILITARY, SECRET SERVICES, AND INTEL AGENCIES of many nations, including the U.S., silently assault and torture "targeted individuals," including those regarded as "dissenters" or slandered as undesirables, with debilitating, health-degrading, "slow-kill" electromagnetic microwave and laser radiation weapons systems -- reported to include a nationwide installation disguised as cell towers.

FOR THE REST OF THE STORY:

http://nowpublic.com/world/govt-tortures-me-silent-microwave-weapons-ousted-s-prez

OR (if link is corrupted): http://NowPublic.com/scrivener RE: "Gov't Tortures" and "Gestapo USA."

Posted by: scrivener50 | November 2, 2009 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Democrats are so stupid they should have passed the unemployement extention weeks ago in Congress for the American people. Due to them failing to act the Republican will sweep the elections on Tuesday. Democrats have been too focused on Healthcare. Americans are hurting and there are no jobs, that should have been the 1st thing done.

Posted by: mattadamsdietmanager1014 | November 2, 2009 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Black Panthers threatening white Men in Suits will not be prosecuted.

absentee ballots from mickey mouse, hugo chavez and che guevera will factor heavily into recount. Sec of state (D-prison) refuses to follow law and verify signatures. more suitcases of democrat votes found at turnpike rest stop. NAMBLA claims no involvement.

Posted by: snowbama | November 2, 2009 4:26 PM | Report abuse

hoffman a back stooge:

Today on his radio program, Beck continued to nudge Hoffman to be more conservative. After being prodded by Beck to say climate change is not caused by human activity, Hoffman announced, “Well, I think there’s a lot of debate on there. I don’t believe that it’s totally manmade.

The interview today was not the first time Hoffman has pleaded to Beck for his support. On the October 21 edition of his radio program, Beck quizzed Hoffman on his conservative credentials and even offered his own “cocktail” of immigration policy solutions, which Hoffman quickly accepted. During the program, Hoffman serenaded Beck with adoring rhetoric, telling him once that the Founding Fathers envisioned “people like you and me to stand up” and take control of government. He also told Beck that he is a member of his local 9/12 organization.

In the past few weeks, Beck has promoted Hoffman on multiple occasions, directing viewers to the Hoffman for Congress website and inviting Hoffman onto his Fox News television program to promote his candidacy. In a firm rejection of the national GOP’s efforts to recruit moderate candidates for the 2010 midterm elections, Hoffman is now encouraging other insurgent right-wing primary challengers to step up. Along with his corporate front group allies like FreedomWorks and Club for Growth, Beck promises to ensure a continued purging of moderates from the Republican Party.

Posted by: drindl | November 2, 2009 4:24 PM | Report abuse

headline on Wednesday:

Repubs complete sweep of elections. NJ heads for recount. Acorn arrives to discover lost ballots. finds suitcase full of 'corzine only' votes under giant stadium. corzine expected to win by 3 votes predicts NYTimes. Wa Po does retrospect on thesis.

Posted by: snowbama | November 2, 2009 4:18 PM | Report abuse

"Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN), who is best known for making inflammatory calls for revolution against President Obama, now has the full backing of the GOP leadership in her latest push to protest against the "tyranny" of the Obama administration.

As Greg Sargent reported, the spokesmen for both House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH) and Minority Whip Eric Cantor (R-VA) supported Bachmann's call for a rally this Thursday in Washington against the Democrats' health care proposals, and her rallying cry: "If you believe in liberty, and if you're rejecting tyranny, this is it."

But what about the other part of Bachmann's initiative. She told Sean Hannity: "I'd love to have every one of your viewers to join me so we can go up and down through the halls, find members of Congress, look at the whites of their eyes and say, 'Don't take away my healthcare.'"

The whites of their eyes? Isn't that what you look for before you shoot? What do you suppose this crazy woman is encouraging people to do?

Posted by: drindl | November 2, 2009 4:17 PM | Report abuse

"Rep. Joe Wilson Blames Obama For Vaccine Shortage -- After Voting Against Vaccine Funding"

says it all, doesn't it?

Posted by: drindl | November 2, 2009 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Headline:

Dems Eke It Out in Jersey, Upstate NY

• But VA Gov Goes Back to GOP


***

STRONG EVIDENCE THAT WARRANTLESS SURVEILLANCE OF U.S. CITIZENS AT 'FUSION CENTERS' IS PRETEXT TO HARASS AND CENSOR VIA TELECOMMUNICATIONS

Please click on this "ACLU Freedom Blog" link, scroll to the bottom and read up.

http://blog.aclu.org/2009/01/26/internet-filters-voluntary-ok-not-government-mandate

Is Team Obama naive, misinformed, or complicit in the continuing censorship, prior restraint and sabotage of telecommunications in America?

http://nowpublic.com/world/gestapo-usa-govt-funded-vigilante-network-terrorizes-america OR http://NowPublic.com/scrivener RE: "GESTAPO USA"


Posted by: scrivener50 | November 2, 2009 4:13 PM | Report abuse

CC - that poll reminds me of the similar polls conducted on Huff and Kos that find Obama has approval ratings in the 80s.

Remember the debates which Paul won by large margins?

the idea that on THIS blog there is any recognition of Repub victory spells huge tumult for the dying sport called liberalism.

you will notice the loons on this blog are acting more deranged by the minute. In a few more months it will seem quite amusing that anyone ever thought like that in America.

Posted by: snowbama | November 2, 2009 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Be careful what you ask for. If Hoffman wins, I wonder what the people of NY23 will think about having Glenn Beck, the crazy TV comedian who admits to being a 'rodeo clown' as Hoffman's mentor?

'Doug Hoffman, the Conservative Party candidate in NY-23, appeared today on the Glenn Beck show -- and declared that Beck is a "mentor" of his, and that he'll stay in touch with Beck if he's elected:

Posted by: drindl | November 2, 2009 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Chris what is your prediction? You are so astute. Drop your lib bias for one minute.

Posted by: espnfan | November 2, 2009 4:03 PM | Report abuse

U.S. President Barack Obama warned on Monday that more U.S. job losses lay ahead

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Look, cause and effect wrapped up nice and neat in a single sentence. this is as close to economics as a Liberal can get without slobbering down their chin.

Posted by: snowbama | November 2, 2009 4:03 PM | Report abuse

DId Sarah write that one for you?

==

That would mean that Sarah knows about The Fix

And THAT would mean that Sarah reads.

So, no.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | November 2, 2009 3:58 PM | Report abuse

"a good exhibition of why it earned the title of "stupidest poster ever on the Fix"."
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DId Sarah write that one for you?

Posted by: JRM2 | November 2, 2009 3:54 PM | Report abuse

a good exhibition of why it earned the title of "stupidest poster ever on the Fix".

CC - do you notice how the blog immediately spirals into the sewer as soon as this quiff shows up? Even the deranged drivl and terminally stupid Loud and dumb can't display this much ignorance and spite in such a short space.

Posted by: snowbama | November 2, 2009 3:49 PM | Report abuse

What I think is that N.Y. 23 and Virginia have historically been conservative until last year's historical election.

This is about making up lost ground, not advancing on the enemy.

Cal me when the Repubs start claiming new ground, such as typically Democratic districts and states.

Otherwise, shut up.

Posted by: JRM2 | November 2, 2009 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Remember in conservative vernacular cutting taxes increases revenue, murdering doctor's is doing God's work, red-faced screaming is grass-roots activism, carrying guns is not an indication of emotional insecurity and penile inferiority, turning a secrular dictatorship into an Iranian client state is a victory, and letting the ridiculously wealthy raid the treasury is great economics.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | November 2, 2009 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Remember in Liberal vernacular winning is losing, frugality is spending, killing is choice, warming is cooling, BJs aren't, 60 is the new 50, public is consumer, war is contingency, terrorists are criminals, killers are victims, taxes are fees.

Still not sure what "is" is.

Posted by: snowbama | November 2, 2009 3:35 PM | Report abuse

We're hoping that the nutbars carry the day so the GOP is encouraged to believe that nutbars are the path back to power.

What fun it will be watching the GOP march triumphantly over the cliff.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | November 2, 2009 3:23 PM | Report abuse

so let me get this straight (apologies to NAMBLA). Obama can save Corzine but is free froom blame elsewhere?

uh huh.

Posted by: snowbama | November 2, 2009 3:06 PM | Report abuse

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