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FixCam: Fundamental Change or Sound and Fury?

The conventional wisdom surrounding the last two weeks of the presidential campaign -- since John McCain named Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate -- can be summed up thusly:

Republicans Rejoice!

Democrats Dismal!

The evidence of this fundamental change in the shape of the race? A series of national polls conducted by media organizations -- including the Post -- that show McCain and Barack Obama in a statistical dead heat.

How much of this is genuine movement in the contest and how much is sound and fury signifying nothing?

In a column entitled "Too Early To Call" David "Dean" Broder comes down in favor of the latter, arguing that there still remains a critical mass of undecided voters in crucial states that can swing the election either way.

"We may well go into October and not know who will be succeeding George W. Bush," writes Broder. "Some find this unsettling and unacceptable, and they give full license to their emotions of joy or despair. I find it wonderful, even inspiring. This has been -- and remains -- the election of a lifetime."

As (almost) always, we find ourselves in near total agreement with the Dean. A look at pre-convention polling suggested a narrowing race between Obama and McCain with the Democrat's once high-single digit edge reduced to three points or less in most surveys. In the immediate aftermath of the Democratic convention, Obama's numbers -- as expected -- bumped up again only to fall back once Palin was picked and the Republicans held their own convention in St. Paul.

On the national level, at least, what we had before the conventions is very similar to what we have now -- a very close race with both Obama and McCain consolidating their respective party bases and fighting over the independent voters still undecided on the contest.

In terms of battleground states, the race looks roughly the same as well; McCain leads in Florida, while Obama holds narrow edges in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Ohio. Some combination of those four states is almost certain to decide the election. If either candidate can win three of those four, it's hard to see how the other can get to 270 electoral votes without some VERY fancy math.

In other words, the more things change, the more they stay the same. The 2008 presidential map is looking more and more like the maps of 2004 and 2000.

For more on the states most likely to switch sides in this election, make sure to check out tomorrow's Battleground States Line. In the meantime, take our latest poll on whether everything or nothing has changed in the last two weeks.

By Chris Cillizza  |  September 11, 2008; 3:18 PM ET
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I am sick to death of all the left wing paranoia. FREEDOM ISN'T FREE. Don't you liberals get it??? Wishing it wasn't so will never change things. Just go back and read your history books. We won't have to worry about healthcare and the economy if we give in to the aggressions of Russia, Iran, North Korea, Al Kaida, Hezbollah, Hamas and the Tallyband. We come from a tradition of survivors, of independent thinkers - but the liberal left seems to be just looking for the easiest way out. They think if they close their eyes and make nicey nice with the terrorists they will go away. What is it about "they want us dead" that they don't understand? Yes, we pay a price for our freedom - in lives and privacy and money. But we can't have it both ways. Forget all the media assasinations and spin. McCain and Palin understand commitment to the American people and to this great country of ours. They are courageous and optimistic and not afraid to stand up against our enemies. I don't know if that's the change everyone is looking for, but it sounds like Obama needs to crack open a history book or two. Until then, I'll take McCain-Palin.

Posted by: MobileMouth | September 13, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

As a lifelong Republican I have no choice but to vote for Obama in this election. For some reason my party has become intellectually bankrupt and thinks c- is a good grade. Sarah Palin is not fit to be Vp of anything. Maybe in Alaska where education and social fabric are warped she is OK. But come on. Ripping people that live in cities for not having "common sense". Patently offensive.

Posted by: Jason | September 13, 2008 11:14 AM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 7:16 AM | Report abuse

Marist 09/05 - 09/08 805 RV 48 45 Obama +3
Fairleigh Dickinson 09/04 - 09/07 872 LV 47 41 Obama +6
Quinnipiac 08/04 - 08/10 1468 LV 51 41 Obama +10
Rasmussen 08/04 - 08/04 500 LV 52 42 Obama +10
Monmouth/Gannett 07/17 - 07/21 698 LV 50 36 Obama +14

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Look out below....there goes New Jersey!
14pt lead down to margin of error in 6wks.
Looks like Sarah's wowing them in Secaucus.


Posted by: Scott | September 13, 2008 12:13 AM | Report abuse

I think this sums up the problem (this from one of the comments here): "America LOVES Sarah Palin and her family - her daughters could not be scripted - especially the younger girl fixing the hair of the baby on camera - you can not write this stuff."

It's possible that the writer might have been trying to be sarcastic or ironic, or simply an astute observer. Whatever . . . Fact remains that IT'S TRUE! We would rather decide this critically important election on the basis of sloganeering, sound-bites, and photo-ops that make us go "AWWWWW!!!!" And no, I don't care if the Obama girls are cute, and they are ... but who cares??? God help us! We're a nation of morons!!!

If McCain and Palin want to win, let them PERSUADE US that they have better ideas. Let McCain return to being the straight-talker I listened to in 2000. But I have overreached, I fear.

Posted by: old white male democrat in WV | September 12, 2008 10:33 PM | Report abuse

Wonder if it is true that the actual candidate that bumps off mutual opponent of both parties automatically wins in November and issues and popularity has little to nothing to do with it? And wonder if the mainstream media is in on this? Apparently the mutual opponent exposed corruption within both parties and is now targeted as a result. The question is how will he be bumped off? For example, will GOP use Guiliani-like mob ties like his protege Bernard Kerik did and got 140 years of jail or Gotti, Jr. whose trial for murder is scheduled for next Monday? Or will Dems use an OJ Simpson-like convict whose trial is coincidentally scheduled for next Monday too? Guess both are available to do a little 'bumping off' this weekend. Especially if both political parties engage in the common law enforcement practice of 'sweetheart deals' where convicts commit crime/murder in exchange for less jail time and conveniently covered up without real culprits suspected.

Wonder if we should begin to worry about our family's safety too as we volunteer this information? For example, will we have to worry doing our routine jog after work in the Hackensack/Bogota, NJ areas as our habits and plans are known in advanced with implanted bugging devices both in private and public?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

I asked yesterday, whom I complain to if Obama loses. My first group to ask would be the media. Let’s face it, you are citizens too and you each have one vote. You too would suffer under a McGrouch-Palin administration. You too would be part of the great American decline. You too would suffer through many mistakes. You would not just be reporting, commenting or pontificating all of this, you would be suffering just like your fellow citizens.

So why are you so weak and intimidated? Why do you puff your chest out with righteous indignation? Why do you succumb to lies, deceit and pandering? Don’t you wish to see a better America? Will you feel any remorse when we are in the toilet? Are you so pompous and conceited that you could care less what happens? Don’t you see that you have become elitist Republican ‘ownership’ minions? Will you too say to the rest of us who suffer, “you’re on your own?”

Well, we have a saying for you media. Maybe you heard it before. “Have you no shame?”
Chuck, NY (Sent Friday, September 12, 2008 9:34 AM)

Posted by: R | September 12, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Democrats for John McCain and Sarah Palin in 2008

Oxymoron posted by: Michael

A true Democrat could never vote for McBush.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Hey, Anonymous at 4:36 AM: Can the "liberals like you" mullarkey. You're not helping.

Posted by: We're All Americans | September 12, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Baracky Hussein Obama has an extremely liberal Senate voting record - he cannot run and hide from that fact.

Democrats for John McCain and Sarah Palin in 2008

Posted by: Michael | September 12, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

aaaaaaaaaah...............

We're only fighting TWO wars. And one of them was a just war [ Afghanistan ], after all.

We might as well start another one with Russia. It's just too much work to find a non-violent solution to the situation.

Heck, if we're lucky - 8 years of McCain-Palin could give us 2 or 3 more! Iran? North Korea? Syria? CHIIIINA!!

[ end sarcasm here ]

Posted by: wolf | September 12, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

The Palin interview seemed to underscore what folks have been worried about. Do you want a President & Vice President who will shoot first (McCain/Palin Doctrine) or do you want a President & Vice-President who will negotiate first (Obama/Biden Doctrine). Two wars and counting...Russia and Iran next...wake up folks, enough is enough!

Posted by: Hoosier State | September 12, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

You guys are right. That though talk about Russia by Gov. Palin scares me. No one wants to fight a war with Russia because both America and Russia will loose. However, because she is a woman, she is trying to appear tough. But this tough talk is also scaring off woman and moderate voters.

I also believe she has to soften her stance on other issues. Moderates are giving up a lot by choosing her, and it is only fair that she give up a little too. Seriously!!

Posted by: G. Girl | September 12, 2008 10:27 AM | Report abuse

As much as I believe that elections should be about issues, it remains true that, for most voters, when it comes time to step in the booth, they will make their decision from their gut. The Republicans hope that the prevailing sentiment will be uncertainty and fear and they will win. The Democrats hope that the governing emotion will be "What, they want four more years after what they have done!? I find it hard to believe that Sarah Palin will figure heavily in either calculus, so, on the fundamentals that have been operative since July, the campaign remains unchanged.

Posted by: dch | September 12, 2008 8:49 AM | Report abuse

the notion that 25 generals on stage represent the 'rank and file' is by definition absurd.
Give me the prior service candidate with sons who serve and the Mom whose son is deploying.

Posted by: the entire midwest | September 12, 2008 8:43 AM | Report abuse

The presidential and vice presidential nominee, no matter how idiots like Newt G and Giuliani are trying to spin it...

The vice presidential nominee at minimum ...running for the office of being the leader of the free world or back up to the leader of the free world...should grasp the basic tenants of what just happened with what most call our worst strategic blunder in recent, if not all, our history as a nation.

you all should be very scared...ugh

I can't believe you people...

this woman is not being elected to the head of the local "lets discuss world politivs" committee...which she would have failed at.

she is asking to be the person that is the back up to wade through all of this cr@p we are in

the person that would launch nuclear (or like bush "nucular" missiles)

She didn't do okay...I a citizen would be more equipped to be Vice President than she is...

it is about basic knowledge of the problems we face...she is ...there are no words to describe how underqualified and Bad this woman is.

and how bad John mcCain's whacked judgment was that he would actually hire this woman.

Her record is overwhelmingly mixed in Alaska. In a time when the state is having a boom because of the oil industry.

so stop with how popular she is...she is popular because of huge oil windfalls affording the oil companies being okay with getting taxed more and the return flowing into her state.

This is not the local Town Board Chair...

this is the person who should hav eknown the Bush Doctirne...and the details of Israel...and the known what answering like that does to our job in the middle east peace process...and how it complicates it...

and ugh

this is ridiculous

that woman you saw last night ...you really think she should be deciding if we go to war,

or deciding whether "nucular" missiles should be launched

or American commercial jetliners should be bshot down over NYC

Gov palin what if it were a Russian commercial airliner? or British? or Pakistani?

would you know the ramifications of such a choice?

you all should be feeling nauseous from that interview last night.

Absolutely ridiculous that that person on that interview ...would be close to any position of leadership...never mind the Leader of the freakin free world...
like was said before...this is not some Disney movie.

jesu$ how stupid can we be for a third time.

Posted by: dl | September 12, 2008 8:37 AM | Report abuse

I hear the GOP are putting Mickey and Minnie Mouse up for 2012. With good speech writers they should get at least 50% of the vote!

Our allies will shake their heads and go their own way if McCain and Palin win.

Posted by: Sue | September 12, 2008 5:06 AM | Report abuse

To the poster at 4:20

The Russians just invaded another country and killed over 1000 people - do you care?

They cannot be allowed to do that whenever they want.


We are going to have to check the Russians at some point. Better sooner than later.


If you do not agree, you are attempting to gain domestic political points at the expense of our NATIONAL SECURITY.


It is liberals like you who make our country weaker, weaken our resolve - and give nations like Russia the idea that they can kill thousands of people and get away with it. In a way, people like you are responsible for those killings too.

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Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 4:36 AM | Report abuse

The hell with knowing what the frak the Bush Doctrine is...I absolutely cannot believe that Palin so cavalierly talked about going to war against RUSSIA!! War with Russia IS NOT AN OPTION! EVER! EVER!This isn't a pep rally Palin. You aren't talking about playing basketball against a rival high school team! We are talking about nukes and the destruction of life as we know it! This isn't the time to talk butch. Don't you realize other countries are watching and taking notes on what to expect from a new administration?!? I'm sure the idea of this hockey mom/pitbull/pig with lipstick having her finger on the button is just as terrifying to them as it is to us. I repeat WAR AGAINST RUSSIA IS NOT AN OPTION! It shouldn't even be DISCUSSED hypothetically.

This interview underlines the very real & dangerous reasons why we all have to forget party lines in this election. If you REALLY care about this country and want whats best for it, you CANNOT trust the judgement of this neophyte. And you absolutely CANNOT trust the judgement of John McCain for putting someone so obviously unprepared & unqualified on the ticket...Even if you like John McCain, you CANNOT vote for him now. I'm sorry but I care too much for my kids & country to even ENTERTAIN the thought of trying to play chicken with Russia. We're talking NUKES here people. This isn't invading Iraq or Afganistan. We're talking millions of people being incinerated and she says it with a gleam in her eye & a perky shake of her head. Even you die-hard Rightys can't be stupid enough to think there's a winner in a NUCLEAR WAR!!!!! Say what you want about Obama but he's NEVER even remotely suggested a war with Russia nor would he...PLEASE... PLEASE... stop this madness! I would like to live long enough to see MY grandchildren grow up ok?

Posted by: Kimberly | September 12, 2008 4:20 AM | Report abuse

Watching the Presidential forum tonight, some things struck me as disingenuous & hypocritical....
McCain says that more people in America need to "serve" their country. To be more actively involved in making their neighborhoods better & making government better. Yet correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't his OWN VP pick denegrate "community activists"?? Palin mocked Obama for HIS community service and now McCain is saying MORE Americans need to do the same kind of community service OBAMA did!!! WHY should they bother? Its obvious their activism & volunteer work won't be appreciated. Matter of fact, they'll only be ridiculed for it. And I hate to tell ya John, but with more & more people having to work 2 jobs, who the hell has TIME for volunteer work!!?!! And stop blaming Obama for HER comments. She was NOT defending herself against smears. HE never said ONE WORD about her qualifications. WE the American people wanted to know what they were, as we have every right to!! WE are the ones who demand OUR OWN chance to "vet" her. You sure had a LOT to say about what YOU thought about Obama's qualifications to be President.
Also, McCain wants to expand the military but he voted AGAINST veterans benefits. HIS was the deciding vote to pass the GI bill and he said NO! He wants to send your children to war but when they get home, he doesn't want to pay for them to go to college or receive the full medical benefits & pay they deserve!!! AND WHY??? HIS kids don't have to worry about going to college on a GI Bill and HIS kids are covered under Government insurance! (And HIS kids have 7 houses to choose from!!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK_9sI7hzAc

He's also blaming the tone of the campaign on Obama!!! He's saying that things wouldn't have gotten ugly if only Obama had agreed to town hall debates. So in other words, Obama didn't want to run HIS campaign by McCain's rules so he decided to act like a petulant little boy by taking his toys and going home mad. He would NOT admit that he thought Obama called Palin a "pig". Even though he's approved ads claiming he believed so! Typical bully! You'll say things behind someone's back but when you're called on it, you back down!!! He stands behind a fence and throws mud and denies it to your face when cornered. And THIS is your honorable war hero?!?! When asked further about the nasty tone the campaign has taken, he dodged the question totally and said it should be based on ISSUES. THIS coming from the man that approved ads claiming Obama wanted to teach kindergardners sex ed? THIS coming from the man who approved ads with wolves stalking poor, helpless Palin?? THIS coming from the man that has LIED about Obama's tax policy??? THIS coming from the man that hired Steve Schmidt, Rick Davis, & KARL ROVE to manage his campaign? You can't hire men that use lies, distractions & shady tactics and then claim YOU'RE the one running a honorable campaign! It doesn't work that way John!! "Do as I say, not as I do" won't work anymore!!

And get this...In the middle of the fumbling answer he gave about Palin's mayoral experience, he stated how she had more duties than any other job in America even harder than HIS job in Washington since he was, and I quote "more divorced from the day to day lives of American people" I'm NOT making this crap up people...Wait awhile and watch it on youtube yourself! This man admitted for the 1st time that he doesn't know what the majority of people in this country are going through. And THIS is the man you want to trust with YOU & your CHILDREN's future? You REALLY expect a man with his own jet, 7 homes, and a wife that can afford 300k on an outfit to give a DAMN if you have to buy generic groceries because the prices have doubled in the last 8yrs? If so, then you deserve what you get....


Posted by: Kimberly | September 12, 2008 4:07 AM | Report abuse

"Most Amricans have made up their mind and no one is going to change it. This blog is a prime example of that. In the end people will vote their pocketbook and security. I can't see Obama and Biden making anyone feel warm and fuzzy on those issues."

And McCain/Palin do? McCain who admits he knows nothing about economic issues and Palin who has a history of one bad economic decision after another in Alaska, beginning with saddling her hometown with a bankrupt sports center, selling the governor's airplane for a great loss, and billing the taxpayers for nights spent at home?? Palin, who proved tonight that she doesn't know a national security issue from a hole in an igloo?

Whereas Obama has run a tightly organized campaign and managed the finances brilliantly? Who has the support of all the major economic and business leaders in the USA? Who has the support of the majority of military leaders and receives the majority of funds from enlisted men and women in Iraq?

No, it has nothing to do with economics or security. Just blindness on the part of desperate Republicans and rapturous delusion on the part of right-wing Xtians.

Thank God more and more Americans are realizing what a disaster Palin is and how irresponsible and short-sighted McCain was in choosing her.

I expect that realization will just continue to grow.

Posted by: McRumi | September 12, 2008 2:38 AM | Report abuse

Most Amricans have made up their mind and no one is going to change it. This blog is a prime example of that. In the end people will vote their pocketbook and security. I can't see Obama and Biden making anyone feel warm and fuzzy on those issues.

Posted by: Capt. Howard | September 12, 2008 2:25 AM | Report abuse

Gidget Goering
Tom DeLay in Drag
Coco Cheney
Princess Pitbull
Norma Ray-ban

Whatever your affectionate nickname for Sara Palin, who in their right mind would put this woman in charge of the government (besides the fanatic end-of-timers)?

Have we come to this? Is this to be the end of America? I mean, I know George Bush did his best to kill the Constitution through torture...is she to perform the coup de grace and kill it outright in the name of her god? Are we so burdened by the difficulties and sacrifices and rational demands of self-rule that we will allow it??

Really?

Have we come that far from the first, good George? Have we lost all sight of our beginings? Have the barbarians come not from China or Russia but Alaska?

Wake up. Reclaim America. Or someone else will.

We have only ourselves to blame for the past 8 years. And for the next 8.

Posted by: McRumi | September 12, 2008 2:17 AM | Report abuse

The short-term effect of Palin has been to pull in some higher polling numbers from mostly uncontested states.

You are right in cautioning that we should just wait a few weeks.

The big caveat here is that the Palin ABC appearance points out just how difficult a "known" Palin is going to be to sell.

McCain's staff should have studied the Nixon campaign and debate vids from 1960s, and coached Palin a little better.

Her version of the republican "cloth coat" isn't working.

Posted by: Republican VN Era Veteran | September 12, 2008 1:33 AM | Report abuse

VOTER WARNING REP., PAY ATTENTION!!!

Some influential Republicans should have a talk with Gov. Palin. She is getting to be too extreme. If she keeps heading to the extreme right, she will surely abandon all moderates, women voters, and Sen. Clinton supporters. The polls are too close for her to be playing these extremist games.

Posted by: G. Girl | September 12, 2008 1:30 AM | Report abuse

As we get closer to November 4, Americans perception of the candidates is solidifying. What are Americans perception?


MCCAIN/PALIN = ACTION


-------VS-------------


OBAMA/BIDEN = ACTORS


Posted by: Permanent Change | September 12, 2008 12:29 AM | Report abuse

Bloody hell - Palin isn't the story! Did anyone watch the forum on CNN? That's the story that all of the Palin hype is hiding.

I came in about mid-way through John McCain's section and saw him fumble through about a half an hour of content-free semi-responses. Obama, however, answered most questions directly, with thought and humanity and specific details of HOW to achieve his ideals. Yes, he did, per usual, wander into other obsessions, like energy, but he once again showed that he can think not only about "what" and "why", but also about "how".

If the media spent much more time covering the policy issues and the actual response of each candidate to them instead of the sewage flow from the advertising and sideshows, perhaps the non-"political junkie" public might have a chance of making a rational choice in November.

Posted by: fr3dmars | September 11, 2008 11:31 PM | Report abuse

--"Can someone explain why the Republicans had their convention after the Democrats?"--

Because they scheduled it later than the Democrats.

--"Also, what happens if something should incapacitate either nominee for President before the election?"--

Nothing, the political parties are legally nothing more than clubs. They can put whoever they want as their candidate, and select them anyway they want. They don't even need to be alive: http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/11/07/senate.missouri/

The rest of your questions are answered by the United States Constitution. While I not that familiar with the details of the president coming to power I can recite the pre-amble. Want to hear it? Oh. Well if you ever want to know just ask. Many of the strange scenario's end up by Congress picking the president.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.overview.html

PS – Pretty interesting way that we choose the president today versus what’s written in the constitution. Despite what many would have you believe – laws and their meanings do drift over time.

Posted by: NoOneImportant | September 11, 2008 11:01 PM | Report abuse

Palin's warmongering rhetoric about Russia was not off the reservation. She was merely explicitly espousing what McCain, Cheney and other warlike neo-conservatives think about a revived cold war or World War III with Russia. These right wingers apparently seek to either humiliate Russia by allowing Georgia to retake two provinces inhabited by people who want to be independent or fight a war, if Russia repeats its recent military interventions. These warlike ambitions could have "religious" foundations, relating to beliefs in the end of the world, according to certain fundamentalist "Christians."

This should be one of the biggest media stories of the decade, but the right wingers have recently effectively intimidated most reporters from covering McCain or Palin in critical perspectives. The media will be completely negligent in their oversight responsibiities, if they fail to completely pursue the full implications of McCain-Palin-Cheney warmongering.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 11, 2008 10:35 PM | Report abuse

And on the 15th day Sarah Palin FINALLY spoke UNSCRIPTED WORDS!!! OMG!!!! I think we can see clearly now WHY she was kept sequestered!!! LOL!!!!! She had that "deer in the headlights look" on the Bush Doctrine. And her answer on war with Russia??.....!!! SCARY!!!!! Wake up America! This will be a travesty if we put this woman a heartbeat away from a 72 year-old president.


Posted by: Heidi | September 11, 2008 10:16 PM | Report abuse

Two big whooping lies from the Republican Convention.

McCain, "Obama's going to raise YOUR taxes." ( Lie )

Palin, "About that Bridge to Nowhere, I told Congress thanks, but not thanks." ( Lie )

And now they are telling lipstick lies.

Posted by: Coldcomfort | September 11, 2008 10:14 PM | Report abuse

America LOVES Sarah Palin and her family - her daughters could not be scripted - especially the younger girl fixing the hair of the baby on camera - you can not write this stuff.

Posted by: sarah | September 11, 2008 10:14 PM | Report abuse

The conservative ideology that boxed us into this mess is spent. They are unable and unwilling to change. We have to go in a new direction. To contradict Dick Cheney, deficits do matter, and no one who is a Republican is serious about tackling the structural problems that exist in our government and our economy.

David Broder has been reporting on politics for a very long time. He seems to want to avoid being labeled a liberal or conservative commentator by keeping his columns so distressingly bland that real news seems to be absent. Perhaps, he might comment on how the level of discourse has sunk to new lows. Review the presidential debates since Kennedy-Nixon. Even Bush 41 looked exceptional. We are in the worst overall economic crisis in 25 years with a government with fundamental structural problems because of an idealogical bend that insists upon military spending, borrowing, and tax cuts as the solutions for America's problems. Let's get to the issues already. There is an urgency here that seems to be missing from these sleepy columns. Eight years ago, the debate was all about what to do with that troublesome budget surplus. That was 4.5 trillion dollars ago. This year's budget deficit will be another 400+ billion dollars. Is anyone out there paying attention? The conservative ideology that boxed us into this situation is spent. We have to get back to fact-based policy making. That means examining all of the options.

Posted by: David from LA | September 11, 2008 10:13 PM | Report abuse

By electing Mccain and moose hunter hockey mum. American people are signing the death certificate of their country. I think John Mcain and his moose hunter VP lacks the capacity and craftmanship require repair the damaged caused by crazy Dubya and the equally crazy cabal of kleptomaniac, dooms day prophesizer neo cons.

With this election, one thing is flagrantly clear, there is no democracy in America, what you call democracy there, the rest of the World see it as a farce and charade. The empiror is really and truely naked, the USA is nothing farcical charade, no different from hollywood scripted soap. Obama's opponent are calling him an empty suite but what I can safely the entire nation is an empty suite, devoid of content and substance. Britain was an empire and a world power and so was the former Soviet Union but now they are all reduced to irrelevance, America hegemony is next.

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Posted by: Cut and Paste | September 11, 2008 10:11 PM | Report abuse

By electing MCcain and moose hunting hockey mum. American people are signing the death certificate of their country. I think John MCcain and his moose hunting VP lacks the capacity and craftmanship required to repair the damaged caused by crazy Dubya and the equally crazy cabal of kleptomaniac and dooms-day prophesizer neo cons.

With this election, one thing is flagrantly clear, there is no democracy in America worthy being proud of, what you are calling democracy there, the rest of the World see it as a farce and charade. The empiror is really and truely naked, the USA is nothing but farcical charade, no different from hollywood scripted soap. Obama's opponent are calling him an empty suite but what I can safely say the entire nation is an empty suite, devoid of content and substance. Britain was an empire and a world power and so was the former Soviet Union but now they are all reduced to irrelevance, and American hegemonic empire is next.

Posted by: America is finished | September 11, 2008 10:08 PM | Report abuse

Most people don't want to hear or read long rambling "nuanced" answers to simply questions.

Posted by: Anonymous
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by most, you mean your ignorant bethren? Do you have a simple one sentence answer to how to fix the economy? The war in Iraq? The health care crisis? If you do, slap a wig on, some glasses, and start running for office, hockey mom. Otherwise, step off...

Posted by: Anonymous '08 - stupid is as stupid does | September 11, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: 37th&OStreet | September 11, 2008 9:48 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin has broken into so many deep rooted prejudices against women that even a jaded ERA marcher like me is astounded. The disappointment is that most Americans believe a working mother cannot be commtted, competent, or successful as a professional and a decent mother at the same time.

I was turned down for a promotion while planning my pregnancy with Mary Anne. I was so foolish as to talk openly of my plans, I had no idea it would be held against me. I was the only applicant and the most qualified staff member - my peers were supportive and everyone was looking forward to my moving up. But I was turned down and told that now was the time for me to "focus on my family". The promotion was given to an older non-child bearing woman with less experience and only 3 years in the system - compared to my 10. It was incredibly painful. I hid my pregnancy for 5 months.

That was 14 years ago and clearly the prejudice and discrimination held towards working mothers remains not only deeply rooted but accepted, tolerated and openly promoted. It is disheartening and disappointing that after marching in ERA marches there has been so little progress in giving equal opportunity to women. Looking back at our miserable failure to advance the status of women it is clear that we allow ourselves to be so easily divided. Civil Rights succeeded because the majority of colored Americans banded together for one cause - equal treatment and opportunity. They were conservative and radical, Christian and Islam, pro-choice and pro-life - but they put all other issues aside to make change by supporting their own color and their own advancement.

Women need to follow this example as without equality we will always be subservient, under paid, second class citizens worried that someone will take away any and all our rights - we are not in control and we know it - that is why we get so very afraid.

All women need to band together and support a woman who has stepped up (against all odds and a meanly hostile media) to try and earn a leadership role.

Women need to vote with their gender in the same way African Americans voted with their skin color. We need to stop being deinied opportunities because of our womanhood or our motherhood.

I will continue to cheer loudly for Palin and I will be proud of every barrier she breaks because she is breaking those barriers for all women. 1984 was too long ago and I am not willing to wait another 24 years - I have already waited too long.

Posted by: mgd1 | September 11, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse

Dems think so differently. Just look at the long ramblings posted here by dems while republicans are to the point. Most people don't want to hear or read long rambling "nuanced" answers to simply questions.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 11, 2008 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Biden is discussions to withdraw based on health issues

Posted by: Dean | September 11, 2008 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Can someone explain why the Republicans had their convention after the Democrats? Is it always that way or does the party that holds the White House get to go second? or do they get to choose whether they want to go first or second?

Also, what happens if something should incapacitate either nominee for President before the election? What about after the election but before they take the oath in Jan 2009? Would the VP nominee/VP elect move up to become the Presidential nominee/President elect respectively?

Please save the flames. I am genuinely curious about whether there are any laws regarding the 2 questions above? Can I find anything reliable about this anywhere on the web?

Posted by: Sharon | September 11, 2008 9:31 PM | Report abuse

Chris,

Do the American Voter a service and run - FRONT PAGE- The advice to check on your Voter Registration Status

As an example,

IF YOU'RE AN AMERICAN, THIS SHOULD REALLY Make you angry, REGARDLESS OF PARTY

Republicans in Michigan-

State Republicans, though, have a plan to give the McCain campaign an edge: suppress the vote.

The chairman of the Republican Party in Macomb County Michigan, a key swing county in a key swing state, is planning to use a list of foreclosed homes to block people from voting in the upcoming election as part of the state GOP's effort to challenge some voters on Election Day.

"We will have a list of foreclosed homes and will make sure people aren't voting from those addresses," party chairman James Carabelli told Michigan Messenger in a telephone interview earlier this week. He said the local party wanted to make sure that proper electoral procedures were followed.

State election rules allow parties to assign "election challengers" to polls to monitor the election. In addition to observing the poll workers, these volunteers can challenge the eligibility of any voter provided they "have a good reason to believe" that the person is not eligible to vote. One allowable reason is that the person is not a "true resident of the city or township."

The Michigan Republicans' planned use of foreclosure lists is apparently an attempt to challenge ineligible voters as not being "true residents."

The scheme would, of course, disproportionately affect African-American families in the area, who are more likely to vote Democratic, and more likely to be in foreclosure as a result of sub-prime loans.

This is just part of a "comprehensive voter-challenge campaign" Michigan Republicans are launching this year, which will coordinate with the regional McCain campaign to train volunteers in challenging those who wish to vote on Election Day. (Whether the foreclosure-driven scheme will be implemented statewide is unclear.)

Asked about the GOP's efforts, Carabelli said, "I would rather not tell you all the things we are doing."


Posted by: Sue | September 11, 2008 9:08 PM | Report abuse

Liberal, Conservative, Republican, Democrat...Pah. Nothing but a bunch of petulant children, crying to suckle at the Tax Payer teat.

Republicans up to their same dirty tricks, trying to push another spineless Baby Boomer and One Trick Pony on America's dumbest and poorest.

Democrats trying to raise the debate to an intelligent level, and so appear elitist and weak to America's dumbest and poorest.

And the words they use, twisted and corrupted, why are liberal, elite, and socialist bad? We've had socialist programs at work in the USA for more than 50 years, and we sill "beat them commies". Please be liberal when you pour my scotch. And every one dreams of being part of an elite team...
Shouldn't the Leader of the Free World be, well for lack of a better word, Elite? One of the very best & brightest, driven to succeed, someone to look up to, the Best of the Best - ELITE

And the lies, outright falsehoods, misdirection, flimflam, ARGGGGHHHHH! ENOUGH ALREADY!!!
Don't tell me how unsuited the other guy is, tell me about YOU. Why are you so great? What makes YOU elite? Why the h*ll should I vote for you? What have you done for ME lately? You're applying for a very important job, stop acting like spoiled children, show me some civility, talk TO me, not AT me. I'm listening, what do you have to say? More of the same, more of the same.

The change that Obama brings is obvious, it is the Change of the Guard. The Baby Boomers have had control of this country for the last 40 years, they have had their time. They did their job, now they need to quite clutching the reigns of power and withdraw. Now is the time for Gen X to rise to power. Obama is the first of my peers to challenge our fathers and the first Statesman I have ever seen. The first of a generation who grew up in an America without state sponsored apartheid, we saw the Berlin Wall dismantled, but never saw it raised. We have had computers and the internet our entire adult lives. And now we must deal with the huge Debt that our fathers have so unwisely saddled us with. Are we going to give them the chance to push that debt higher? To bankrupt & dismantle the exact same "socialist" programs that they will soon rely on? How far do they expect us to carry them?

As long as I am ranting, Palin. What kind of family values does this person represent? I know people with 1 or 2 kids that can hardly keep it together, what with work & chores, you put kids in on top of that, whew. 5 children, 1 a newborn with Downs Syndrome, 1 a pregnant unwed teen, 1 off to die in some god forsaken war. And yet she presumes to seek one of the most full time jobs conceivable. Who will be raising her kids while she's "raising McCain"? It's not like she has a couple of adult children or older teens. She has 5, spread out, a newborn with special needs and a brewing family crisis. Any quality time there? Abstinence education sure does work, eh? She's not Pro-Life, she's Anti-Choice. And she has the gall to mock public service. She left Wallsalia with a $22,000,000 debt, a city of 5000, that's $4400 per person! So, she was mayor of a town of 5000, the high school I went to had more students than that, New York City has over sixteen times the population of the State of Alaska! The city of Chicago nearly six times. Foreign Policy, what does she stand for? Bringing former Soviet states into NATO, to egg on Putin? Really? That's utterly insane! Not a great idea, sure to fly with the other NATO members, most of whom are not big fans of ours right now anyway, thanks GWB. No wonder her handlers won't let the press near her. Why am I ranting about her when there is such fertile soil in the war vet? Because beyond the fact that HE'S 72 YEARS OLD, what else do I need to say? Seen any 72 year old School bus drivers? no? why do you suppose that is? hmmmm not hard to guess really is it? And they want to make a 72 year old man President? There's a man on my block, he's in his 70's, he fought in Korea & Vietnam, nice enough old guy, deserves respect for what he's done, now he's retired. Yep, imagine that, retired. Why on earth would someone that old even want the most high stress job in the world? It doesn't even make any sense.

The worst part is that so many are falling for it. What a bunch of idiots.

Posted by: AMERICA | September 11, 2008 9:04 PM | Report abuse

HuffPo reports in her "Interview" Palin announces plans to invade Russia. Is that before or after Alaska secedes from the Union? How long must this grade-B sitcom go on? America, you want her, you got her.
Good riddance.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 11, 2008 8:26 PM | Report abuse

After reading the hysterical comments here from the Obama partisans, I think that the saying "We are the people that we've been waiting for" is rapidly becoming " We are the people that nobody can stomach".

Posted by: ThisIsReality | September 11, 2008 8:17 PM | Report abuse

Great insights from "the Dean" (from remarks delivered September 10, 2008, at the Dean dome):
The race is too close to call.
Water is wet.
The Redskins won't make the playoffs.
Luxury cruises are best when you don't have to pay.
If you don't pick up the check, your five- course meal costs less.
Obama, in my estimation, is black.
Reporting is easier if you never leave your house.

Thank you. Thank you very much.

Posted by: BroderJr | September 11, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

The glory of uninformed certainty.

From
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/palinism-politics-as-content-free.html

Palinism: Politics as The Content-Free Violation of Expectation

What is Palinism?

What is it about?

What policies?

What ideas?

What positions?

Even in the Lincoln-Douglas debates, while no doubt many were motivated by regional partisanship, local prejudices, and "the measure" of the candidate, one suspects that at least a rough rendering of the issues--secession vs. Union, free vs. enslaved--was carried in and animated the crowds.

Now, it is pure reaction to pattern. To one impulse expectation violated by the provocation of another impulse, that feels--good.

We have reached the content-free phase of American politics.

A form, an image--glasses, hair, a voice, what it suggests--is enough. She could be speaking the words to the airport timetable, the swearing-in speech of Ferdinand Marcos, the ingredients of a
box of Sizzlean--the form, the image, the sound, and the gathering impulse, the bare stirring from dull lack of novelty--is sufficient to awaken the crowds to angry perturbance at...the stimulus to be perturbed, and the bare sense of actual directed action and purpose that comes with doing so.

Palin herself wears a glazed, slightly confused look in her eyes--what is it that has unleashed this roar, this approbation. Being used to herself, and having been among those who are well used to her, she is unaware of the novelty that her mere form releases in the dazed electorate, yearning for a pretext for expression. Soon, she'll believe it herself.

And, after all, isn't that what democracy is all about? The ability to choose to decide without knowledge? Better yet, to choose your knowledge, irrespective of fact, in correspondence with the liberating, confirmation-free impulse?

This is what today's moment stands for.

These are our satisfactions and securities in this golden age.

Cite:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/palinism-politics-as-content-free.html

Posted by: cara prado | September 11, 2008 8:07 PM | Report abuse

"TERRORISTS WILL ATTACK AMERICA AGAIN !"
-GeraldD

And Iraq was responsible for 9/11 and there really were WMD in Iraq, right?

Posted by: themis | September 11, 2008 7:58 PM | Report abuse

TERRORISTS WILL ATTACK AMERICA AGAIN !

At a recent meeting of the House Armed Services Committee, testimony by the head of a Bi Partisan Committee revealed that Iran has been testing a new type of weapon. They have already had at least two successful tests of the delivery system for this weapon called an EMP weapon.

That testimony revealed that the United States is ill prepared for such an attack. We effectively have little defenses which could stop such an attack.

That testimony also revealed that should Iran be successful, such an attack would kill between 70% to 90% of the ENTIRE POPULATION on the lower 48 states. Quite a sobering thought.

The United States is busy developing a counter to such an attack. It promises to be an effective deterrent for such an attack. It is amazing that Barrack Obama has stated on video that he would cut all funding for the development of this defense system.

It appears that Russia has been funding the Iranian program and supplying technology on many of the aspects of how such a weapon works. If Iran is successful in attacking the United States in such a fashion, Russia becomes the One Major Power, and runs little risk of retaliation.

Go to this website to hear Barrack Obama talk about slashing funding for this program. You can also read more about the potential attack and see links to the testimony.

http://www.harvybing.com

IS ANOTHER 9-11 COMING ONLY THIS TIME KILLING MILLIONS OF AMERICANS? You Be The Judge.

Posted by: GeraldD | September 11, 2008 7:54 PM | Report abuse

AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!aAAAAAAAAAHHHH!!!!!

WTF. THE SCARIEST THING i SINCERELY HAVE EVER SEEN IN MYLIFE THE CHARLIE GIBSON INTERVIEW...

"THE BUSH DOCTRINE? hUH? whaddya mean Charlie?"

posted by dl

-------oh there you go again. running your mouth and lying.

Even one of your heros, that guy who gets that ole tingly feeling running up his leg said her answer was brilliant.

your post was misleading to say the least, and an outright lie.

Posted by: Obama2012 | September 11, 2008 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Doesn't matter. If he isn't, he's just as silly and full of himself as the other guy. "Too Close to Call" How long did it take DB to come up with that?

If that is journalism, I can do that before brushing my teeth in the morning and have the rest of the day to myself. Enough with the bloviators, let's get some reporters in here. Internet reporters are breaking stories left and right and all the Broders can say is "Tut, tut. Please pass the Grey Poupon."
____

Is this David Broder any relation to the late David Broder, respected journalist?

Posted by: KM, Texas | September 11, 2008 7:19 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 11, 2008 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Entire Midwest,

If your thesis is correct, why is it that Obama has received more donations from service members deployed to the middle east than McCain? Please explain with something besides Orwellian doublespeak.

By the way, I enlisted the week after the bombing of the disco in Berlin with a guaranteed assignment to Germany. So maybe that's why I don't buy your holier than thou bullsh*t.

Posted by: themis | September 11, 2008 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Who's fault is it?

Obama picked, 'with the help of a Comission', Biden as his running mate. The resulting equation is this:

Obamas's big mouth + Biden's stupid mouth = disaster

Some of Biden's recent gaffes:

“Hillary Clinton is as qualified or more qualified than I am to be vice president of the United States of America,” Mr. Biden said Wednesday in Nashua, N.H. “Quite frankly it might have been a better pick than me.”

Earlier in the week, in Columbia, Mo., Mr. Biden urged a paraplegic state official to stand up to be recognized.

“Chuck, stand up, let the people see you,” Mr. Biden shouted to State Senator Chuck Graham, before realizing, to his horror, that Mr. Graham uses a wheelchair.

This is the fellow who nearly derailed his nascent presidential campaign last year by calling Mr. Obama bright and clean and articulate and who noted that you needed a slight Indian accent to walk into a Dunkin’ Donuts or 7-Eleven in Delaware.

The man who, reading his vice-presidential acceptance speech from a TelePrompter, bungled Senator John McCain’s name, calling him “George” (“Freudian slip, folks, Freudian slip,” he explained).

The man who, on the day Mr. Obama announced him as his running mate, referred to his party’s presidential nominee as “Barack America” and noted that his wife, Jill, a college professor, was “drop-dead gorgeous” but who, problematically, possessed a doctorate.

The man who has said he is running for president (not vice president) and who confused Army brigades with battalions. Who referred to his Republican vice-presidential opponent as the lieutenant governor of Alaska.

Posted by: Are they a pair of idiots or what? | September 11, 2008 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone noted that 25 generals stood on the stage at the Democratic convention to demonstrate support for Obama. And after Bob Woodward's interview on CHarlie Rose this week, I will tell you why.
Woodward said that during his interview, he saw first hand and was amazed by the fact that Bush was "disengaged" about the war in Iraq. He was sending surrogates to strategy meetings and they in turn were delivering orders to the field commanders.
The administration promised the American people that the military will direct the operations in Iraq. And yet there is clear evidence that the ARM chair warriors were actually giving direct orders to the field by passing Central command and the channels of command. They treated the war in Iraq as a matter of "business". A matter of routine.
Our military men and women were sent into battle undermanned, with inferior bullet proof vests and helmets and substandard armoured vehicles. Cheney's quip at the time was that "we went to war with the military we had". How crass and disrespectful -Going into a pre-emptive war and our fighting men and women suffer the consequences. Not the military industrial complex like Carlyle Group or Blackwater, just our men and women.
Woodward commented on the fact that the President of the US is the "Commander in chief of the military, not commander in chief of the economy and not the commander in chief of the environment. And yet, Bush did not feel the urgency to invest the time at all strategy meetings to help our guys. He had other things to do. He was only interested in the enemy body count, that was his measure of success.
No wonder so many of those Generals "retired", how could they not in the face of the outright disrespect by Bush and Company. The Republicans have no monopoly on protecting our nation, if anything they have squandered our natural resources, weakened our nation, and our national resolve, and caused untold deaths of US military and Iraqi citizens. That in itself is a total contradiction to their PRO-LIFE position. They are the Party of institutional death. Because for them "war is profit".

Posted by: CarmanK | September 11, 2008 7:45 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone noted that 25 generals stood on the stage at the Democratic convention to demonstrate support for Obama. And after Bob Woodward's interview on CHarlie Rose this week, I will tell you why.
Woodward said that during his interview, he saw first hand and was amazed by the fact that Bush was "disengaged" about the war in Iraq. He was sending surrogates to strategy meetings and they in turn were delivering orders to the field commanders.
The administration promised the American people that the military will direct the operations in Iraq. And yet there is clear evidence that the ARM chair warriors were actually giving direct orders to the field by passing Central command and the channels of command. They treated the war in Iraq as a matter of "business". A matter of routine.
Our military men and women were sent into battle undermanned, with inferior bullet proof vests and helmets and substandard armoured vehicles. Cheney's quip at the time was that "we went to war with the military we had". How crass and disrespectful -Going into a pre-emptive war and our fighting men and women suffer the consequences. Not the military industrial complex like Carlyle Group or Blackwater, just our men and women.
Woodward commented on the fact that the President of the US is the "Commander in chief of the military, not commander in chief of the economy and not the commander in chief of the environment. And yet, Bush did not feel the urgency to invest the time at all strategy meetings to help our guys. He had other things to do. He was only interested in the enemy body count, that was his measure of success.
No wonder so many of those Generals "retired", how could they not in the face of the outright disrespect by Bush and Company. The Republicans have no monopoly on protecting our nation, if anything they have squandered our natural resources, weakened our nation, and our national resolve, and caused untold deaths of US military and Iraqi citizens. That in itself is a total contradiction to their PRO-LIFE position. They are the Party of institutional death. Because for them "war is profit".

Posted by: CarmanK | September 11, 2008 7:44 PM | Report abuse

The only change is the press: It has bashed Obama for months on the most trivial of foolishness: Rev. Wright (to whom it devoted about two months of non-stop coverage), fistbumps, saying "bitter," 80-year-old ex-anti-war activists (whom the media called a "terrorist"), giving a message of hope to 200,000 Germans (how in the heck is that bad???).

They couldn't attack his character, background, or judgment so they concentrated on the politics of distraction and division and racial code-wording.

Now we have a vp candidate, who Internet journalists say is involved in about 15 major scandals we know of, who her own campaign acknowledges is unqualified to take even the simplest of questions on any policy issue, and who has been caught in about 20 blatant lies, and what do we hear from the press? Nothing. Silence.

Journalist Charley James of laprogressive.com broke a major story on Sept. 5 detailing her views of racial minorities. It chronicled racial slur after slur against Obama, AAs, and Eskimos -- a campaign ender. MSM's reportage on this? Nothing. Nada. Palin believes in Alaskan secession from the Union. Media reaction? Nothing.

Palin says no questions from the press, perhaps ever (except from the hapless Charlie Gibson of ABC, who has already deemd 90 pecent of the subjects off-limits for his upcoming "interview"). The press responds, that's just fine, have a nice day. Pathetic.

At some point (we can only dream) the press will tire of her screwball Sandra Bullock-Lucille Ball act and start to realize we are considering her for the 2d highest office in the land, not second billing on Kelsey Grammer's next sitcom.

Press, start doing your job: quit bloviating and Broder-ing ("to early to call" -- yeah, ya' think, what insight, brilliant, DB) and start reporting!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 11, 2008 7:40 PM | Report abuse

I'm not sure why Obama's candidacy inspires such low-class nastiness in his followers, but if he is right that these jokers are the people "we have been waiting for", "we" are all in deep doo doo.

Posted by: dyinglikeflies | September 11, 2008 7:34 PM | Report abuse

Obama did not call Palin a pig. That would be insulting to pigs.

Posted by: Obama '08 | September 11, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse

Obama wants change. Socialism is a change from democracy, but it's not what most Americans want.

Look at the people who brought about the biggest changes in the 20th century--Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mao. Their changes cost 100 million lives. How much change can you stand?

Posted by: Fergie | September 11, 2008 7:21 PM | Report abuse

ON SPENDING

“Porky” Palin – hey, as it turns out, that pig does wear lipstick….wow!!!

After McCain said earlier this year that he won't "spend $3 million of your tax dollars to study the DNA of bears in Montana," Politico reports that as governor of Alaska, Sarah Palin requested millions of dollars to study the DNA of harbor seals, among other things (including research on the mating habits of crabs.)

Intelligent people everywhere are both amused and appalled that Palin, who claims she is conservative when it comes to earmarks, would request federal money for a project nearly identical to one that McCain has mocked. The earmark is yet another example of how McCain and Palin are "hypocrites and liars."


http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/9/11/02449/9021


At the end of the clip, John McCain promises that he'll make the names of wasteful government spenders "famous."

Apparently, he kept his pledge: he picked one of them to be his veep.

“We’re not going to spend $3 million of your tax dollars to study the DNA of bears in Montana,” McCain has said during this year’s campaign, referring to a study he’s mocked for years of whether grizzlies need to keep their status as an endangered species.

Palin, meanwhile, has requested $3.2 million to be spent in part researching the “genetics of harbor seals,”

"Senator McCain said Governor Palin ‘learned that earmarks are bad’, but in 2008 alone Gov. Palin requested $256 million in earmarks for Alaska, and her state received more earmarks per person that any other state," said spokesman Tommy Vietor. "The fact is that Governor Palin isn’t just good at getting pork projects, she’s one of the most successful pork barrel politicians in history."

Posted by: basementfrog | September 11, 2008 7:20 PM | Report abuse

Is this David Broder any relation to the late David Broder, respected journalist?

Posted by: KM, Texas | September 11, 2008 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Hillman where did you serve? Ah didn't think so. I have two tours in Baghdad and 4 additional combat tours.
Thanks. Go away now.

Posted by: the entire midwest | September 11, 2008 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Why would we leave our country in the hands of those unwilling to defend it?

Posted by: the entire midwest | September 11, 2008 7:05 PM

We were blessed to have George W. Bush in the oval office, truely fortunate.

He's kept us safe, in spite of the Libs attempt to ensure we can't listen to terrorist phone calls, and all their blockading and politicizing everything.

Thank goodness we have a President who could care less what the Left Wing media spews.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 11, 2008 7:12 PM | Report abuse

where is he? Do you have his phone number?

Posted by: the entire midwest | September 11, 2008 7:10 PM | Report abuse

"Your effeteness and lack of patriotism astonishes me."

Tell that to Max Cleland.

Posted by: Hillman | September 11, 2008 7:07 PM | Report abuse

liberals enjoy your polls. We will enjoy the victory 4 Nov. Your effeteness and lack of patriotism astonishes me. Why would we leave our country in the hands of those unwilling to defend it?

Posted by: the entire midwest | September 11, 2008 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Did you see Obama toss his rose into the Memorial in NYC?

McCain gently laid his rose down, then stepped back and bowed his head in observance.

Obama threw his rose, then puts his hands in his pockets and starts looking around for the TV cameras.

What a class act.

Posted by: dano | September 11, 2008 7:05 PM | Report abuse

clingin to my guns and religion. What does Obama stand for besides his self-advancement?

Posted by: the entire midwest | September 11, 2008 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Gibson interview:

1) She's incompetent.
2) She lies with ease.
3) She suffers from the same religious delusion as Bush: "I know God's will and I am, his agent of change."

How any rational American citizen can vote to put this woman in the White House is beyond any adult notion of reason or common sense.

Palin doesn't scare me...it's her fans and idolizers. More than Obama's throngs ever did or ever will.

My God.

Posted by: McRumi | September 11, 2008 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Obama do any apologizing today for us being attacked?

Posted by: Obama2012 | September 11, 2008 6:57 PM | Report abuse

AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!aAAAAAAAAAHHHH!!!!!

WTF. THE SCARIEST THING i SINCERELY HAVE EVER SEEN IN MYLIFE THE CHARLIE GIBSON INTERVIEW...

"THE BUSH DOCTRINE? hUH? whaddya mean Charlie?"

this is the freakin person Mccain has such good judgment he picks for the freakin replacement for the leader of the frwakin ree world!"

what Tootie from the facts of Life wasn't available?

wtf!

Posted by: dl | September 11, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse

But Republican Okie Verteran, how do you really feel?

Posted by: Oakland Stroke | September 11, 2008 6:46 PM | Report abuse

The editing of the interview with Palin by ABC is highly questionable. Odd. I'll look forward to seeing the uncut version.

Posted by: PJS | September 11, 2008 6:45 PM | Report abuse

GO SARAH GO!!! Russia is waiting for moose stew!!!!
Here is excerpt from Gibson/Palin and I don't need to read more or hear more to know that this woman is scariest ever person to be allowed running for VP:
When Gibson said if under the NATO treaty, the United States would have to go to war if Russia again invaded Georgia, Palin responded: "Perhaps so. I mean, that is the agreement when you are a NATO ally, is if another country is attacked, you're going to be expected to be called upon and help.

"And we've got to keep an eye on Russia. For Russia to have exerted such pressure in terms of invading a smaller democratic country, unprovoked, is unacceptable," she told Gibson.

Posted by: Jarda1 | September 11, 2008 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Dee says:
"Americans will get over the initial interest in Palin after information gets out about her extremist Pentacostal religious views, her agressive campaign for earmarked boondoggles for her town, her lying about the "Bridge to Nowhere," and her bullying approach to leadership."

Oh, I wish it were that simple.

The "bullying approach to leadership" is pretty obvious in Palin. Clearly she inappropriately threw her weight around. But no more so than Bush's cronies in the Department of Justice, Cheney and Bush themselves. The urge and ability to suppress dissent in the ranks is starting to be recognized by the voting public as a legitimate political tool. We actually respect Palin more because she not only tried to fire a town librarian for "disloyalty to the new administration" but cowed the librarian so effectively that now the librarian refuses to confirm or deny the attempted firing.

This isn't just about Palin. Ted Stevens was just chosen in the Republican primary to stand again for the U.S. Senate, despite being under indictment for corruption-related felony charges. Kwame Kilpatrick has a TON of supporters in Detroit despite the fact that he authorized Detroit to pay $8M to 3 cops to suppress the knowledge that he and his chief of staff were having an affair. Marion Barry was re-elected mayor of Washington D.C. after serving jail time for drug offenses. Bill Clinton was re-elected despite the voters having fairly compelling evidence of him being a serial sexual predator, making sexual advances to members of his staff dependent on his good will for their employment.

We're turning into a people that wants autocratic leadership. We don't care how the leadership delivers. We don't care what "minor" indiscretions they commit along the way (even if unrelated to delivering). We just want them to deliver.

How could we have done this to ourselves?

If McCain and Palin are elected, it will be another clear indication (as was the 2004 election, in my opinion) that the American people don't understand that the Republican way is to support their corporate buddies in stomping the dickens out of the little people (the non-executive workers who happen to have made America great).

Posted by: DisFisCon | September 11, 2008 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Let me guess that Republican Okie Vet got most of his "facts" from hate radio and viral emails. Republican zombie lies will never die. They are resistant to reason because they are repeated with such gusto every day by the likes of Hannity and Limbaugh. Once they are repeated enough they become their own reality. Furthermore, since more conservatives are certain that main stream media is biased they are inoculated against the any facts that run counter to the "liberals" hate America world view.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 11, 2008 6:42 PM | Report abuse

GO SARAH GO!!! Russia is waiting for moose stew!!!!
Here is excerpt from Gibson/Palin and I don't need to read more or hear more to know that this woman is scariest ever person to be allowed running for VP:
When Gibson said if under the NATO treaty, the United States would have to go to war if Russia again invaded Georgia, Palin responded: "Perhaps so. I mean, that is the agreement when you are a NATO ally, is if another country is attacked, you're going to be expected to be called upon and help.

"And we've got to keep an eye on Russia. For Russia to have exerted such pressure in terms of invading a smaller democratic country, unprovoked, is unacceptable," she told Gibson.

Posted by: Jarda1 | September 11, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

what is at stake is
are we ready for a president Palin ready to declare war on russia see her interview; who believes in intelliegnt design- see face of chancellor merhel- a real scientist face when sarah will be denying climate change; see Putin sneer at her next international faux-pas. are we ready for a hockey mom who has no qualms thinking she is ready and fit to become the next POTUS. see her drill, see our economy carrying on floundering- do we think for one minute this woman is going to sweeten north korea ; china , OPEC no-
well as said Bill C it is about the economy stupid.
Do you think she is fit- no then do vote Obama or pray for a misericordious God...

Posted by: SAINTIXE | September 11, 2008 6:37 PM | Report abuse

By embracing the campaign tactics of Bush/Rove, the repeated lies and distortions to prevent the discussion of the issues, McCain 2008 demonstrates that he is not the "maverick" of 2000 but Bush III.

Does he really believe the D-presidential candidate would call the female R vice presidential candidate a pig???

Does he really believe that Obama want 5 year old girls to be taught how to use a condom?? Really?

He used to ask for 'civil discourse' in politics. No longer. He may have excited the ever decreasing R base but he's completely alienated the middle. It's over my friend.

No More Years.

Posted by: thebob.bob | September 11, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

McCain said in his RNC speech that "some in the GOP" abused their power and forgot their conservative principles. That is an understatment. The Bush years have been a disaster. Bigger government. Bigger deficit. Corruption and scandals. Increasing unemployment. Historic high home foreclosure rates. Weak dollar. Need I mention the Iraq war.

For the GOP capitolism means privatizing the profits for CEOs and socializing those same business losses. THey make the profit in good times. WE pay when they fail.

McCain offers nothing different. McCain/Palin really is no different than Bush/Cheney - except maybe the lipstick.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 11, 2008 6:33 PM | Report abuse

In most of the blogs I read on the upcoming election, the liberal Democrats quite often call the conservative Republicans hypocrites. Well, here is how the liberals think – what is BAD and what is PERFECTLY OK in their world. This is about as hypocritical as you can get:

It is BAD that the song “Dixie” uses some Southern black dialect, but it is PERFECTLY OK that rap music employs criminal black dialect.

It is BAD to execute a criminal convicted of the most heinous crime you can think of, but it is PERFECTLY OK to crush the skull of a partially born baby.

It is BAD for the Ten Commandments to be displayed anywhere except on private property, but it is PERFECTLY OK for us to be tolerant of the Muslims who have killed thousands of Americans.

It is BAD for the Bible to be discussed anywhere except in church, but it is PERFECTLY OK (even required) to give the prisoners in Guantanamo a Koran.

It is BAD that conservatives want to pray at a high school football game, but it is PERFECTLY OK that liberals have ensured that Muslims in Guantanamo are free to practice their religion.

It is BAD that we sometimes quote scripture and think this country was founded on Christian principles, but it is PERFECTLY OK for a man to marry a man and a woman to marry a woman.

It is BAD that slaves were sold in auctions in this country, but it is PERFECTLY OK that black tribesmen on the west coast of Africa rounded up members of other tribes and sold them to European slave traders.

It is BAD that slavery existed in this country under the Confederate States of American flag for four years, but it is PERFECTLY OK that slavery existed under the United States flag for over a hundred years before that.

It is BAD that slavery was not abolished in this country until 1865, but it is PERFECTLY OK that slavery still exists in several countries in Africa.

It is BAD that some white southern plantation owners (about 8% of the southern population) owned slaves, but it is PERFECTLY OK that just as many wealthy northerners and a lot of wealthy blacks also owned slaves.

It is BAD that slavery existed at all, but it is PERFECTLY OK that slavery existed all over the country and that Democrats were running the government. (NOTE: it came to an end under a Republican administration.)

It is BAD that President Bush only served his country in the National Guard rather than the regular military, but it is PERFECTLY OK that Bill Clinton never served in the military, and was in fact a draft dodger who went to England to smoke a little pot and protest against his own country. (I guess it is also PERFECTLY OK that Obama never served his country.)

It is BAD that John McCain has had two wives, but it is PERFECTLY OK that Bill Clinton committed adultery several times, EVEN IN THE OVAL OFFICE, and was accused of rape; and that John Edwards had an affair while his wife is in the latter stages of cancer.

It is BAD for the Transportation Security Officers in airports to racially profile Muslims, but it is PERFECTLY OK that Muslims have carried out every act of terrorism against Americans (except for Tim McVeigh).

It is BAD that G.W. Bush has been president for eight years, but it is PERFECTLY OK that Bill Clinton was impeached while in office.

It is BAD for anyone to be intolerant of Muslims and their religion, because their religion is one of peace, but it is PERFECTLY OK that Muslims have slaughtered thousands of Americans, in this country and abroad.

It is BAD to want to drill for more oil in the United States, but it is PERFECTLY OK to continue spending an estimated $750 billion a year buying foreign oil from people who hate us.

It is BAD that Sarah Palin’s teen-age daughter is pregnant, but it is PERFECTLY OK that Barack Obama was born about six months after his mother married someone we assume was his father.

It is BAD that Sarah Palin’s husband had a DUI charge 22 years ago, but it is PERFECTLY OK that Biden's daughter was arrested a couple years ago or that his brother and son have fraud charges against them.

It is BAD that a lot of American servicemen have died in several wars to protect the freedoms this nation enjoys and to keep “Old Glory” flying, but it is PERFECTLY OK that Barack Obama refused to wear an American flag lapel pin and refused to place his hand over his heart when the National Anthem was played.

It is BAD that over 2 million people are in prison in this country and a lot of them are black, but it is PERFECTLY OK that between 35 and 40 million babies have been aborted since Roe vs Wade, and that a lot of them were black.

It is BAD that a lot of people in this country got educated and work really hard and earn good money, but it is PERFECTLY OK to take a lot of money away from these people and give it to people who did not get educated and go to work. (Note: this is communistic and socialism – redistribution of wealth.)

It is BAD that Sarah Palin has only been a mayor and a governor. But it is PERFECTLY OK that Obama had only served in the US Senate 143 days before deciding to run for president; and it is PERFECTLY OK that Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton were “just” governors.

It is BAD that congress isn’t doing anything to solve the problems of the country, but it is PERFECTLY OK that the Democrats control both houses of congress.

It is BAD that Bush beat Al Gore in the presidential election, but it is PERFECTLY OK that a lot of democrats in Florida are too dumb to know how to vote.

It is BAD that conservatives do not believe the global warming myth, but it is PERFECTLY OK that the temperature of the plant has only increased by one degree Fahrenheit in the last century.

It is BAD that George Bush and Dick Chaney have had some past associations with big business, but it is PERFECTLY OK that Barack Obama’s associates include Tony Rezko (who raised campaign funds for Obama) and was just convicted of 16 of 24 counts involving mail fraud, wire fraud, money laundering, and aiding and abetting bribery; and William Ayers, who was a member of the radical Weather Underground, a group responsible for a series of bombings.

It is BAD that we conservatives don’t believe in evolution, but it is PERFECTLY OK that no fossil evidence of any evolutionary creatures has ever been found and that if there was any evolution, it stopped somewhere along the line because a lot of apes did not evolve.

It is BAD that conservatives are not more tolerant of gays, but it is PERFECTLY OK for liberals to be viscously intolerant of a Republican gay.

It is BAD that G.W. Bush’s Attorney General fired 28 Federal Prosecutors, but it is PERFECTLY OK that Janet Reno (Clinton’s Attorney General) fired all of the Federal Prosecutors.

It is BAD that conservatives want to adequately fund the military to keep the United States safe and secure, but it is PERFECTLY OK to spend money funding the National Endowment of the Arts to produce statues of Jesus covered in feces, exhibits of aborted fetuses, and obscene paintings of S&M.

It is BAD that conservatives want to promote the rights of Christians and victims of horrendous crimes, but it is PERFECTLY OK that liberals promote the rights Islamic fanatics, adulterers, pornographers, abortionists, criminals and Communists.

It is BAD that conservatives would like to see Creationism taught in schools, but it is PERFECTLY OK that liberals want children taught how to masturbate and that they have a common ancestor with earthworms. (Forget that no common ancestor has ever been identified.)

It is BAD that Osama bin Laden is still at large, but it is PERFECTLY OK that Alan Dershowitz has offered to defend bin Laden if he ever comes to trial saying it “would be an act of high patriotism.”

It is BAD that conservatives favor building a shield that would defend America from incoming missiles, but it is PERFECTLY OK for the liberals to support federal funding of art therapy for the homeless.

It is BAD that Pat Tillman died in actual combat defending liberty for those that would like to have it (albeit by friendly fire), but it is PERFECTLY OK that Max Cleland is called a hero because he dropped a grenade (not in combat).

It is BAD that John Kerry was “swift-boated” as the liberals call it, but it is PERFECTLY OK that the real truth is that John Kerry lied about his exploits in the swift-boats and 300 members of his unit said he lied.

It is BAD that a Republican government intimidated Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, but it is PERFECTLY OK that they both gave classified information related to the atomic bomb to the Soviet Union.

It is BAD that Paula Jones had the audacity to accuse Bill Clinton of sexual harassment, but it is PERFECTLY OK that Bill Clinton used the powers of the presidency to commit a string of felonies to defeat her civil rights lawsuit, like perjuring himself, tampering with witnesses, hiding evidence, and obstructing justice.

It is BAD that liberals can sometimes uncover a real scandal involving a Republican, but it is PERFECTLY OK that John Kennedy cheated on his wife an untold number of times; Democrat Wayne Hays cheated on his wife; Gary Hart cheated on his wife; Chuck Robb cheated on his wife; Jesse Jackson cheated on his wife and fathered an illegitimate child while counseling Bill Clinton on his infidelity; John Edwards had an affair while his wife is in the latter stages of cancer; Democrat House Speaker Jim Wright circumvented limits on outside income by arranging for special-interest groups to place large bilk orders for his book; Democrat Barney Franks lover ran a homosexual prostitution ring from Frank’s town house; Democrat Senator Harrison Williams, several Democrat congressmen and a Democrat mayor were caught on tape by the FBI accepting bribes from undercover agents posing as Arab shrieks; Democrat Congressman William Jefferson was caught on videotape accepting $100,000 in bribe money; and Sandy Berger (Bill Clinton’s national security adviser) stole classified documents from the National Archives, hid them under a construction trailer, later retrieved them, cut them up with scissors and threw them away. No one knows what was in them!!!

It is BAD that President Bush waited 48 hours to fly back to Washington after the Indonesian tsunami, but it is PERFECTLY OK that Bill Clinton was talking on the phone with congressmen about sending troops to the Balkans while being serviced by Monica Lewinsky under the desk.

It is BAD that conservatives are accused of not practicing diversity enough, but it is PERFECTLY OK that a lawyer on the Senate Judiciary Committee found memos from Democrats in open computer files proving that the Democrats were targeting President Bush’s Hispanic nominees to the courts simply because they were Hispanic.

It is BAD that President Bush implemented a program to listen in on al Qaeda phone calls to and from the United States, but it is PERFECTLY OK that the Democrats wire-tapped conservatives Tom Delay, Rush Limbaugh and Scooter Libby while investigating them.


Posted by: Republican Okie Veteran | September 11, 2008 6:33 PM | Report abuse

5:33 p.m. post -

"Blatant spin from me. I am going to try to tell the world that a reckless and unvetted pick is exactly what this country needs, while at the same time downplaying Obama's genuinely bold moves."

Posted by: 37th&OStreet Translator | September 11, 2008 6:33 PM | Report abuse

McCain has started a cover up of a Corruption Probe in Alaska about Palin. McCain plans to fire the head of the investigation and PUT HIS OWN PEOPLE IN CHARGE. McCain is just as corrupt as Bush.

As for banning books, Palin fired the librarian and then reinstated her. Now the spin is that she was never fired.

Amazing. I feel like we are in 1830.

Posted by: Bruce Becker | September 11, 2008 6:30 PM | Report abuse

The question of whether the race has fundamentally changed is a difficult one. Although the pre-Convention polls had tightened, I expected that Obama would open a lead at the convention, and retain a mid-high single digit lead in the 5-8 point range until the first debate, which is the Foreign Policy debate. Then thought the polls would set at that point, with undecideds starting to "decide" with Obama the main beneficiary, and with a real break to Obama after the final debate---which is the Economy/Domestic Policy debate where McCain will show he's out of touch on the economy, as he has basically admitted. So yes, I think the race has changed in character in that Obama is unlikely to open a lead of more than 5 points at any point. The election is clearly going to be close, no blowout.

But I don't think the race has been "fundamentally changed" because I still think it's very doubtful a Republican can be elected after two terms of a failed Republican President. Republican is still a dirty word for much of the public. So while Obama's margin of victory is not going to be as large as expected, he'll wind up leading the National Popular Vote by 2-4 points, and is likely to finish with something in the range of 280-311 Electoral Votes.

As to your "big four" states, Pennsylvania and Michigan are both leaning Democratic, while Florida leans slightly Republican though it is much closer than expected. The general expectation was that Florida was an easy Republican win. Instead, the race in Florida is tighter than in either PA or MI. Ohio, along with New Hampshire, Colorado, Virginia, and Nevada, is a true toss-up, though the new CNN poll from Ohio shows a 5-point Democratic lead. If Ohio goes Democratic, the outcomes in the other tossup states will be rendered meaningless. So Chris is correct that if either party wins 3 of the 4 states he named, they will win. Obama is clearly far more likely to win 3 of these 4 than is McCain, however it's also very possible that each will win 2 of the 4.

Posted by: OHIO CITIZEN | September 11, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Once I at least respected John McCain. No longer. He and his campaign are now up to their eyeballs in lying excrement. Has anybody else noticed this?

Posted by: oldhonky | September 11, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Excerpt from Sarah Palin ABC interview:

When asked if the US would ever invade Russia: "Perhaps so. I mean, that is the agreement when you are a NATO ally, is if another country is attacked, you're going to be expected to be called upon and help.

"And we've got to keep an eye on Russia. For Russia to have exerted such pressure in terms of invading a smaller democratic country, unprovoked, is unacceptable..."

I guess her tutors did not do too well, or she is bat-sh1t insane.

IS SHE SERIOUS? Biden will clean her clock in the debates. First of all the Russian invasion of Georgia was NOT UNPROVOKED. True that Georgia ia a democracy, but so is Abkazia(?) which Georgia wanted to annex.


Secondly, does she NOT know that Russia has THOUSANDS of nuclear missles capable of hitting every major city in North America, including Alaska?

Where was she during the cold war again?

I'm in my late twenties, and I know that.

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Posted by: el_barto | September 11, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

McCain has started a cover up of a Corruption Probe in Alaska about Palin. McCain plans to fire the head of the investigation and PUT HIS OWN PEOPLE IN CHARGE. McCain is just as corrupt as Bush. Corruption!

Posted by: Bruce Becker | September 11, 2008 6:24 PM | Report abuse

It's sound and fury, signifying nothing.

Just wait until the dust settles.

Posted by: Will in Seattle | September 11, 2008 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is a dangerous nut job and those people "buying her" don't have the slightest idea of what she really stands for. If she somehow ended up as President, this country would last all of six weeks. The first people she would in prison would be people like "Terry" and the other hysterical anti-abortionists. Palin, as has been described by people who worked for her, is a dictator without any consceince, without any core beliefs, except for what pops into her head at that moment. She is all about power and "popularity" and does not take kindly to criticism of any sort and is ruthless in her persuit and punishment of anyone crossing her. From everything I have heard from Terry and the like, Palin is their Anti-Christ.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | September 11, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

“Porky” Palin – hey, as it turns out, that pig does wear lipstick….wow!!!

After McCain said earlier this year that he won't "spend $3 million of your tax dollars to study the DNA of bears in Montana," Politico reports that as governor of Alaska, Sarah Palin requested millions of dollars to study the DNA of harbor seals, among other things (including research on the mating habits of crabs.)

Intelligent people everywhere are both amused and appalled that Palin, who claims she is conservative when it comes to earmarks, would request federal money for a project nearly identical to one that McCain has mocked. The earmark is yet another example of how McCain and Palin are "hypocrites and liars."

http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/9/11/02449/9021

At the end of the clip, John McCain promises that he'll make the names of wasteful government spenders "famous."

Apparently, he kept his pledge: he picked one of them to be his veep.

“We’re not going to spend $3 million of your tax dollars to study the DNA of bears in Montana,” McCain has said during this year’s campaign, referring to a study he’s mocked for years of whether grizzlies need to keep their status as an endangered species.

Palin, meanwhile, has requested $3.2 million to be spent in part researching the “genetics of harbor seals,”

"Senator McCain said Governor Palin ‘learned that earmarks are bad’, but in 2008 alone Gov. Palin requested $256 million in earmarks for Alaska, and her state received more earmarks per person that any other state," said spokesman Tommy Vietor. "The fact is that Governor Palin isn’t just good at getting pork projects, she’s one of the most successful pork barrel politicians in history."

Posted by: basementfrog | September 11, 2008 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Hey John Son, Obama was a community organizer for two years as his first job out of college. Then he went to Harvard Law School, served on the Harvard Law Review, taught at one of the best law schools in the country and served two terms as a state senator. That's how.

Posted by: Mike T. | September 11, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Randi & Palin have a lot in common. Both seem to have this great capacity to lie in the face of facts (claiming to be against the bridge to nowhere but was actually for it, not having procured any earmarks despite having hired a lobbying firm to procure them, etc.). BTW, Randi, where's your proof that he is Muslim?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 11, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

I love the family values chatter from the GOP.

My wife and I had a profoundly retarded son - he never spoke a word or walked - he never sat up - he never looked at me - for all I knew he was deaf and blind as well.

Every meal he ever ate we fed him. Every diaper he ever wore we changed him. Every foot he ever moved from where he was lying we carried him. Every time he went to bed we carried him upstairs. Every morning we carried him downstairs.

We became a test marketing project for Depends adult diapers - we got 'em free and had to let the manufacturer know what we thought of them.

He lived to be ten years old. We did nothing but worry about what was going to happen to him. Then one day he simply woke up and died.

My wife gave up the best ten years of her life caring for Michael. We got no help from any government agency except our local school for handicapped kids. No medicare ; no medicaid; no state assistance. You see I "made too much money" - I was a middle management officer in a bank with two other kids and it was the only income in my home - but I made too much money.

Michael is gone now. So is my wife. She never went to church. She was not a believer. If there is a God in his heaven then she is sitting under a massive oak watching her perfect 10 year old son play with his 12 year old brother (yes - we lost two boys) in the green grass under a sunny sky with a cool breeze moving through his hair mop - "Mommy look at me!! Look at my kite!!" and she will wave and smile.

There was no preacher at her funeral - except for a local female Methodist minister who knew how this woman, who never went to church, lived Christianity in her daily life . I will not forget her kindness. She spoke of how this woman went on to have two fine daughters after her two disabled sons and how she made a lunch hour appointment for an abortion and changed her mind at the last minute.

Talk is cheap. It’s a lot easier talk about having a kid like Mike than to be the parents. Too many of you fine religious folk feel so good about yourselves, then you smile and go on to your next “Fellowship” meeting or casserole supper knowing you saved another life.

No one should have to bear a Michael at 30 if they don’t want to.......that’s choice. Those who advocate the opposite should be prepared to urge society to provide care for that child for its entire life, even if you have to raise taxes. It’s the cost of being pro-life. Think of that the next time you see two old people pushing an adult retarded child in a wheel chair in the mall.

Posted by: toritto | September 11, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

BRITISH PRIME MINISTER BROWN SUPPORTS BARACK OBAMA

LONDON, Wednesday - British Prime Minister Gordon Brown voiced support today for US Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, saying he would help Americans struggling with an economic downturn.

In a move seen by some British media as a break with a political convention requiring foreign leaders to remain neutral ahead of US elections, Mr Brown praised Mr Obama as a fellow “progressive politician” who would help ordinary Americans in tough times. With eight weeks to go before the presidential election, Mr Obama and his Republican rival John McCain are neck-and-neck in domestic opinion polls.

Mr Brown described the race for the White House as “electrifying” and said: “It is the Democrats who are generating the ideas to help people through more difficult times.”

“To help prevent people from losing their home, Barack Obama has proposed a Foreclosure Prevention Fund to increase emergency pre-foreclosure counselling, and help families facing repossession,” he wrote in an article in The Monitor magazine, a monthly political publication.


WHY A BARREL OF OIL ILLEGALLY SHOT UP FROM $24 TO $145 DURING THE GOP REPUBLICAN ROB AMERICA ADMINISTRATION


GOP REPUBLICAN BUSH I OOOOOIIIIILLLLL MILLIONAIRE OIL COMPANY EXECUTIVE
GOP REPUBLICAN BUSH II OOOOOIIIIILLLLL MILLIONAIRE OIL COMPANY EXECUTIVE
GOP REPUBLICAN CHENEY OOOOOIIIIILLLLL MILLIONAIRE OIL COMPANY EXECUTIVE
GOP REPUBLICAN RICE OOOOOIIIIILLLLL MILLIONAIRE OIL COMPANY EXECUTIVE
GOP REPUBLICAN GUILIANI OOOOOIIIIILLLLL MILLIONAIRE OIL STOCKS MILLIONAIRE
GOP REPUBLICAN MCCAIN OOOOOIIIIILLLLL MILLIONAIRE OIL STOCKS MILLIONAIRE
GOP REPUBLICAN PALIN OOOOOIIIIILLLLL COMMISSIONER OIL STOCKS MILLIONAIRE


TOGETHER WHAT DO THEY ALL HAVE IN COMMON?

THEY ARE ALL GOP REPUBLICAN OOOOOIIIIILLLLL STOCKS MILLIONAIRES


GOP REPUBLICAN OOOOOIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLL IS THE NEW CRACK
GOP REPUBLICAN OOOOOIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLL IS THE NEW CRACK
GOP REPUBLICAN OOOOOIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLL IS THE NEW CRACK


CAN YOU SAY GOP REPUBLICAN CONSPIRACY TO DEFRAUD THE AMERICAN PUBLIC, ROB OUR U.S. TREASURY, AND SPECULATE FOR OBSCENELY HIGH PROFIT RETURNS ON WALL STREET OIL STOCKS

WAKE UP AMERICA, BECAUCE THE WORLD ALREADY KNOWS ABOUT THE CRIMINAL GOP REPUBLICAN PARTY OF CONSPIRATORS

NATIONALIZE U.S. OIL FOR NATIONAL DEFENSE AS A VITAL RESOURCE

AMERICA AND AMERICANS FIRST

NO MORE GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET OOOOOIIIIILLLLL SPECULATION AND FRAUD AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

IF YOU SAY THAT YOU LOVE AMERICA, THEN PROVE IT AND STOP THE GOP REPUBLICAN RAIDERS UPON OUR U.S. TREASURY AND OUTSOURCING OF U.S. JOBS


Will the GOP Republican get rich by selling America party take credit for any of their disasters? GOP Republicans are successful at failing and hurting OUR COUNTRY in the eyes of the WORLD. Can we really afford to ignore what the ENTIRE WORLD THINKS OF US?


How does the WORLD perceive AMERICA led by Barack Obama? Extremely favorable.

How does the WORLD perceive AMERICA led by John McCain? Extremely negative.

FOR MORE YEARS ANYONE?

Eventually, Americans will realize that doing the same thing (electing GOP Republicans) will not yield different results (stock market disasters, economic disasters, world view disasters, failed foreign policy disasters, failed domestic policies disasters).

Spraying perfume on a new GOP Republican Pig will not create a bright and shiny candidate. Garbage in equal garbage out. GOP Republican garbage in yield (stock market, economic, foreign relations, domestic policies) garbage out.

McCain has perpetually been a failure from school until now.
Palin has perpetually been a failure (with a hillbilly hockey mom accent) from day one until now. Her bear hunting Arctic outback kids prove it.

Do you really need someone to tell you these basic facts? Under the Freedom of Information Act, all of this information is available free if you choose to type in the questions.

Lets prove to the Europeans and the World that we are not stupid, because they think that we are after two terms of Forrest Gump Bush.

D Student Crash Every Plane McCain and Hillbilly Trailer Palin are not reflective of the American People.

If Palin had a brain, then she would have considered the immense responsibilities demanded of the Office of the United States Vice President or President; and politely declined McCain’s crack induced invitation. GOP Republican Party is a joke.

If FOX NEWS does not clean up it’s filthy RACIST acts of discrimination, then American and European audiences will B O Y C O T T FOX RACIST NEWS.


REPORT SAYS GOP REPUBLICAN OIL AGENCY RAN AMOK

INVESTIGATION OF GOP REPUBLICAN OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET

INVESTIGATION OF GOP REPUBLICAN MINERALS MANAGEMENT SERVICE OIL MARKETING GROUP


GOP REPUBLICAN Government officials in charge of collecting billions of dollars worth of royalties from oil and gas companies accepted gifts, steered contracts to favored clients and engaged in drug use and illicit sex with employees of the energy firms, federal investigators reported.

Investigators from the Interior Department's inspector general's office said more than a dozen employees, including the former director of the oil royalty program, took meals, ski trips, sports tickets and golf outings from industry representatives. The report alleges that the former director, also netted more than $30,000 from improper outside work.

The report from Inspector General contains fresh allegations about the practices at the beleaguered royalty-in-kind program of Interior's Minerals Management Service, which last year collected more than $4 billion worth of oil and natural gas from companies given contracts to tap energy on federal and Indian lands and offshore. The revelations come as Congress is set to consider opening the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and areas off the coast of Florida for drilling.

The royalty-in-kind program, based near Denver, allows energy companies to pay the government in oil and gas, rather than cash, for the privilege of drilling on government land. It has been the subject of multiple investigations since 2006 by the Interior Department's secretary, its inspector general, the Justice Department and Congress for alleged mismanagement and conflicts of interest.

In the report released yesterday, investigators said they "discovered a culture of substance abuse and promiscuity" in which employees accepted gratuities "with prodigious frequency." The report cited one e-mail from a Shell Pipeline representative asking a woman in the royalty office to attend "tailgating festivities" at a Houston Texans football game: "You're invited . . . have you and the girls meet at my place at 6am for bubble baths and final prep."

Besides Shell, the energy company employees mentioned in the report worked for Chevron, Hess and Gary-Williams Energy. The social outings detailed in the report included alcohol-, cocaine- and marijuana-filled parties where certain employees of the Minerals Management Service were nicknamed the "MMS Chicks" by the energy employees. The companies paid for federal workers to attend football and baseball games, PGA Tour events, Colorado ski trips, paintball outings and "treasure hunts," investigators found.

"The OIL INDUSTRY holds shocking sway over the ADMINISTRATION and even KEY FEDERAL EMPLOYEES,". "This is why we must not allow BIG OIL'S AGENDA to be jammed through CONGRESS."

The current director of the Minerals Management Service, said that he takes the report "very seriously".
Employees identified in the report told investigators that they didn't think ethics rules applied to them because of their "unique" role in the agency and that they needed to socialize with industry representatives for "market intelligence," according to the report. Those employees, some of whom have been transferred to different offices, have been recommended for internal administrative action.

The inspector general's release comprised three separate reports, including one devoted to the program's director. It alleges that Smith improperly worked part time for Geomatrix Consultants, an Oakland, Calif.-based environmental and engineering firm, and marketed the company to government clients.

Additionally, the report said that the director had an inappropriate sexual relationship with a subordinate whom he paid to buy cocaine, promising her a bonus in return. The director admitted to the sexual encounter.

The director, who now works for a private oil company in Denver, did not respond to requests for comment. Investigators referred their findings to federal prosecutors.

Justice officials also declined to comment on their decision about the criminal case against the highest-ranking official named in the report director of the Minerals Management Service, who worked in Washington. She is accused of improperly arranging a million-dollar deal for two retired employees.

The wife of the procurement policy administrator for the WHITE HOUSE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET, retired from government service Jan. 31. She declined to comment on the report. She told investigators she had a "personal issue. The Justice Department's decision to charge created a rift with Interior officials.

One of the two retired employees pleaded guilty in July to a federal conflict-of-interest charge related to the investigation. Another employee has been under investigation for similar conflict-of-interest allegations.

Before he left, Mayberry created a job for himself by writing the job description and the criteria for selecting the winning bidder, court documents show. He started a company out of his Texas home and was awarded a $150,000 contract in June 2003. He later hired Dial, the report said. Mayberry's firm collected $788,000 worth of contracts.

The royalty-in-kind program, which started as a small pilot project a decade ago, has been touted as a way to simplify the way OIL AND GAS COMPANIES pay for the right to drill on federal land and offshore. Instead of calculating the profit from a well, they can simply give the government one-eighth to one-sixth of whatever they take from the ground.

Revenue rose quickly, from $1.5 billion in 2004 to $4.3 billion last fiscal year. But the growth occurred "in an environment with relatively unstructured in-house oversight," the congressionally convened Royalty Policy Committee said in a December report. Previous reports have said that companies were allowed to revise their million-dollar bids for projects indiscriminately, that government workers routinely failed to seek out legal advice on complicated deals and that the agency used outdated computers and a $150 million software program that resulted in royalty money going uncollected.

A lawyer who represented states and tribes entitled to a cut of the royalties, said it was nearly impossible to get accurate numbers from the agency. "They kept hemming and hawing," she said.

In late 2006 questions arose over its handling of leases written in 1998 and 1999 that allowed major oil companies drilling in the Gulf of Mexico to avoid billions of dollars in royalty payments.

Former Interior Department auditors accused the agency of failing to bill companies. "We weren't allowed to audit them. It was disturbing," said an auditor who sued the federal government for not collecting royalties. "You couldn't see what was going on."

The minerals agency director said that the harm done by the royalty employees was to public trust and Treasury, and acknowledged that financial considerations were given to firms that gave favors to federal employees, and he said the contracts will be audited.


Do you really question the motives of GOP Republicans Criminals? America must Immediately Nationalize U.S. Oil and Gas For National Defense.

Posted by: GOP Republicans Put Greed First | September 11, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Chris:


The race has fundamentally changed in McCain's favor - he is even further ahead than he was before.


Obama is cracking - Obama is showing signs of strain which indicate that he does not have the character or ability to handle a national security crisis.


McCain in sharp contrast has proven to the American People exactly what he is all about: the man who would pick Sarah Palin when no one knew how the nation would receive her.


Posted by: 37th&OStreet | September 11, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

Americans will get over the initial interest in Palin after information gets out about her extremist Pentacostal religious views, her agressive campaign for earmarked boondoggles for her town, her lying about the "Bridge to Nowhere," and her bullying approach to leadership.

She is not qualified for the vice presidency and McCain's selection of her reveals that he is not qualified for the presidency.

McCain, in caving in to the extremist wing of his party, showed himself to be weak, timid, faltering in the face of conflict, and unscrupulous.

The campaign still has many weeks to go and many turns to take. Palin/McCain has peeked too soon.

Posted by: dee | September 11, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

fairfax3 asks
"Why are conservatives so excited about Palin when she would clearly have no role in a McCain administration beyond attending funerals?"

I think the social conservatives like the odds. Before McCain's running mate was known, they were (rightfully) concerned he would pick a social moderate, or [gasp!] a pro-choice person for a running mate. While McCain, if he wins, could still screw them by not keeping his promise about SC judges, they still have Palin there ready to either fill in should McCain's age catch up with him - or she's primed to run in the future. If McCain had picked a pro-choice running mate, they wouldn't have had a horse in this race - and probably would've sat out or cast protest votes for some minor 3rd party. Now they've at least got some kind of hope in Palin.

Posted by: bsimon | September 11, 2008 5:31 PM | Report abuse

FOOL'S GOLD INTERVIEW, I wish an idiot like you was doing the interview.

Posted by: Razorback | September 11, 2008 5:31 PM | Report abuse

It doesn't help that the media follow every little diversion with saturation coverage. Surely there is someone on the staff of the formerly great papers like WaPo and the Times that can keep their minds focused on what's important in this election.

Since you presumably follow things political more closely than I, can you tell me something, Chris? Has Sarah Palin said ANYTHING in public besides repeating her snappy, snarky lines from the convention? I don't expect we'll get anything out of the Gibson interview -- that seems to be set up more like a puff "personality" piece.

Posted by: Willythekorn | September 11, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Why did the Post spike the story about John McCain covering up Cindy McCain's drug addiction and theft problems?

Posted by: mysteryguest | September 11, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

I listen to obama,
and i just dont get it???
he is a typical talk
in a circle politician,
he has no valid points,
he is just bashing
the other party.
How does that change
anything?
Nobama08!

Posted by: usa3 | September 11, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Particle accelerator at CERN in Europe to experiment on ground breaking physics. Does string theory hold? Science in America used to be without comparison, innovation and Nobel Prizes to boot and now we got blithering idiots that could run this country, those that believe we descended from Adam and Eve, who went onto to produce offspring that inbred. What a shame. America is no longer #1 in intellect, in innovation, and in discovery.

Posted by: JakeD's shadow | September 11, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

The Presidential campaign may have changed, but the issues facing my family remain the same. With a strong Democratic majority in Congress the only team with a credible claim for change is Obama-Biden. McCain-Palin don't stand a chance of pushing their agenda through a strongly Democratic Congress. McCain-Palin are four more years of rancor and gridlock.

Posted by: AKwatchman | September 11, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Obama can't get out of the low to mid 40s in the polls eight years after Bush when 80% of Americans think the country is heading in the wrong direction? With less than two months before the election a betting man will have to call this one for McCain: 55% to 45%, and a mild blowout in the electoral votes.

Posted by: bobte | September 11, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Barach Hussein Obama was a Community Organizer in Chicago. He was not elected or appointed by the mayor to that position. So how did he get the position he claims started him in his political career?

It is a quantum leap from community advisor to his current junior senator position.

And the most astounding change in his carrer path is challenging John Mc Cain for the presidency with no foreign relations experience to call his own.

What is really hillarious is his criticism of Senior Senator John Mc Cain acievements and Mrs Palins' experience as a govenor of the State of Alaska.

He may not have common sense but Barach sure has the tenacity of a junk yard dog.

Posted by: john son | September 11, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Of course the Republicans got a bounce, that's what conventions are for. People are naturally interested in Gov. Palin, she's a new face on the scence along with being smart, attractive and a very good politician. I support Senator Obama, but I to am very interested in Gov. Palin.

I do believe however, that once people learn more about her there will be concerns with her very far right beliefs. Americans like moderates, Gov. Palin is no moderate.

I think it's part of the reason the McCain campaign is keeping her under wraps so that anything she says can be scripted. If I were McCain I'd be doing the same thing.

At the end of the day we need to remember that we are voting for President and it's Senator McCain vs. Senator Obama.

Posted by: stlouisguy | September 11, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Democrats for John McCain in 2008

Posted by: Miguel | September 11, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

McCainchurian Candidate and his puppeteers are in the process of STEALING this election. Republicans are the new NAZIs. FEAR politics were used by Hitler and the SS to get Germans to forfeit their rights and used this FEAR to invade other countries.

SOUND FAMILIAR !!!!

Posted by: isupreme | September 11, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Ok charlie gibson, your credibility is already shot so here is what I would do in your place. And by the way you're not going to do anything tonight but make the rest of the press mad because of your fluff, your favoritism and your selling out for high ratings, so just let me help you.

Question for you Mrs. Palin.

Is it true that your EXPERIENCE as Mayor of Wasilla left a town of about 5,400 in 20 MILLION DOLLARS worth of debt? I have another question base on this EXPERIENCE how will you handle America's budget?
Hmmm. Question for you Mrs. Palin. By the way I know about the term pitbull with lipstick but have you ever heard of the term FOOL'S GOLD? Well anyway,
There is a video Mrs Palin that FINALLY have been shown on tv of you in church on stage talking about our troops in Iraq, and I quote “Pray that our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God,” Mrs. Palin what you're saying to Christians and to those who don't understand church lingo is that our national leaders, Pres. Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and others are anointed by God to carry out a Holy War? The world knows that the Iraq war was base on lies for the last few years. This video was shot in June. Ms. Palin, when was the last time you were in touch with the nation or for that matter, with God? I have another question Mrs Palin. Do you believe that God told them (the national leaders) that there were weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq, because, they did say that this is why we're going to war. What's your answer on this? Also, Mrs Palin do they have Librarian Week in Alaska? Everybody loves their librarian. But you have the NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF LIBRARIANS trying to burn down the governor's mansion. Could you please shed some "light" on why you fired the local librarian and then had to rehire her? Another question for you please.
The words Family Values, Honor, Character and Integrity are being thrown around alot. We know of McCain's POW experience and his adulterous relationships. Now the NATIONAL ENQUIRE is reporting that you Mrs. Palin had an adulterous relationship
yourself. Is it true MRS. Palin and when are you going to sue the National Enquire and force them to reveal their sources if its not true?
On the subject of experience. Actually, I'm a little ahead of myself. I should have asked this first. Please tell us Mrs. Palin,
why did you attend 5 colleges in six years? Oh you don't remember? Let me name them for you. Hawaii Pacific University to North Idaho College to the University of Idaho to Matanuska-Susitna College then back to University of Idaho. Does this speak to your Foreign Policy experience as well?
Alright thank you Mrs. Palin. We've run out of time for tonight. We should have passed on the tour of the house and the introduction of your family and your son's leaving for Iraq ceremony but we'll have more time tommorrow. And that it folks, the vetting of Sarah Palin continues but before we go we would like to thank our sponsor,... None other than Mr. Rick Davis

Posted by: FOOL'S GOLD INTERVIEW | September 11, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Is that kid alive? I have yet to see it move. It is disgusting using that severally handicapped baby as a political prop. I don't thik it can hear or see. It never even moves.

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America LOVES Sarah Palin and her family - her daughters could not be scripted - especially the younger girl fixing the hair of the baby on camera - you can not write this stuff.

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Posted by: 37th&OStreet | September 11, 2008 4:42 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 11, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

I am puzzled. Why are conservatives so excited about Palin when she would clearly have no role in a McCain administration beyond attending funerals?

She is the antithesis of McCain politically and until he dies, he will ignore her. He is just using her for his own purposes - Hey women, does that sound familiar?

Palin means nothing to McCain or the rest of the Repub power brokers. She is little more than a useful idiot being used to attract gullible females.

Posted by: fairfax3 | September 11, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

"Once the excitement about Palin is tempered by her actual record and positions and once the debates come and go, Obama will win handily"

Bingo. Sarah Palin's extremist views are not going to settle well with swing voters. Pentecostal roots, maybe the worst environmental record imaginable, fundamentalist views on abortion, the library fiasco, and her attitude toward creationism in schools. All very harsh to a moderate.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 11, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

America LOVES Sarah Palin and her family - her daughters could not be scripted - especially the younger girl fixing the hair of the baby on camera - you can not write this stuff.

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Posted by: 37th&OStreet | September 11, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

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Obama has no economic or business experience except for buying cocaine........

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Posted by: Anonymous | September 11, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

"Americans LIKE palin."

Um, please don't speak for all of us.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 11, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

"There has been a bipartison consensus around market economics and free trade best exemplified by the views of Robert Rubin and Alen Greenspan."

Not true. Many people fault Greenspan for producing too much credit during his years at the reserve and for endorsing the Bush tax cuts (which McCain himself opposed before making them the center of his policy), which helped the deficit balloon.

http://www.usnews.com/articles/business/economy/2008/04/30/is-bernanke-worse-than-greenspan.html
http://www.businessspectator.com.au/bs.nsf/Article/Greenspans-currency-weakens-E8SKF?OpenDocument
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/15/business/15cnd-fed.html

Bsimon is right, though, that Obama supports free markets more than most Republicans realize. Good post!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 11, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Once the excitement about Palin is tempered by her actual record and positions and once the debates come and go, Obama will win handily - probably by 5-6% in the popular vote and with close to or just over 300 electoral votes.

It won't really be close. Most undecideds will break for Obama. Deep down people know we need a change and that McCain/Palin represent more of the same. This election has the same dynamics as the election of 1980. It was very close until after the debates. Ultimately, most of the undecideds went for Reagan. Like now, voters in 1980 knew they needed a change.

Posted by: jeff | September 11, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

We have seen what nasty gets us in the White HOuse - do we really need another angry old man? .........
http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/09/11/nasty-campaigns-by-angry-old-men/

Posted by: Ohg Rea Tone | September 11, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

And one more thing, a point that got short shrift during the event itself:

What was the GOP thinking in choosing one of the most Democratic cities in America as the site of its convention? It's akin to choosing San Francisco, Boston, or Chicago. Despite what some polls may claim, Minnesota ain't much of a swing state.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 11, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

I think it will come down to Va, and that Obama will win it.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 11, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

I think the Sarah Palin bounce is temporary. By October, this race will look like it was always going to be--a close one.

In any event, I agree wholeheartedly that the election comes down to those four previously mentioned states. Obama doesn't need to campaign in CA or NY; he only needs money from the big donors who live there. Same goes for McCain in TX. If Obama can take three of those four states, he wins, and "handily."

Posted by: Adanielch | September 11, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

no one is saying McCain has won because of the last two weeks

The last two weeks has just made certain that the media pundits aren't going to pick.
Americans LIKE palin.
they aint to sure about the bitter Obama

Posted by: Anonymous | September 11, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

For all of the kowtowing to McCain's "service to our country" it is disgusting that his reprehensible behavior is being so obligingly tolerated. He's an insult to true heroes. His conduct is totally unbecoming an officer and a gentleman. Heroes don't whine and play the victim. That's not how McCain won his status as an untouchable American. He's manipulated the media and population to accept and justify anything he says or does. It is disgraceful! I'm ashamed of him and I'm ashamed of the media and voters for letting him get away with such slimy behavior.

Posted by: Truth Maverick | September 11, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Initially, I thought that Palin was a disaster. Then, I saw her speech and thought that she was this bright ray for McCain. Next, she started lying and, frankly, that really hurt her in my eyes. She lied about saying "no" to the bridge. She lied about claiming she'd "build her own bridge", too. Then she lied about the pipeline she "built" (construction hasn't begun because, well, there isn't a source yet).

And, finally, the McCain camp kept her so far under-wraps that she cannot even talk to the press. First they wanted her to wait till the convention was over. Then, they wanted her to get through a joint appearance. Next thing you know, there's less than eight weeks and she's answered one question (apparently CNN right at her nomination) since she's been nominated.

It's nuts. Obama is the best of the two candidates left.

Posted by: teo | September 11, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Razorback writes
"There has been a bipartison consensus around market economics and free trade best exemplified by the views of Robert Rubin and Alen Greenspan.

Does Obama endorse these views? Or reject them? Little will change will occur if he endorses them. If he rejects them, he will put the US on the same path to failure as has occured wherever socialism is tried."

I won't challenge the simplistic nature of your construct, but instead point you to an article that contains the answer you seek. It is called "Obamanomics" and was in the NYT Magazine 2 1/2 weeks ago. The influence of University of Chicago (you know, where he taught law & where market economics are king) did have an influence on his economic policy - and he respects the market more than you imagine. If you're really interested, you'll read the article for yourself. My bet is that you bicker here & spread uninformed innuendo or outright lies instead.

Posted by: bsimon | September 11, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

WTF is wrong with the media? Aren't we supposed to be watching the post-convention bounce? The convention ended and the McCain-Palin numbers rose a bit. Who's surprised? We're already seeing a leveling-off. As the numbers return to pre-convention numbers, what's the media meme going to be - "Has McCain lost his Mojo?"

Posted by: bsimon | September 11, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Terry, god punishes america everyday by forcing us to breath the same air as wingnuts such as you. You dear lady are an excellent candidate for a retrocative abortion.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 11, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Too bad Randi and Terry aren't muslims. That would increase the odds of their committing suicide and doing us a favor.

Posted by: Randi&TerryAreFuuckingIdiotsAndDisgustingSlime | September 11, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

It was never going to be a sure thing. The Demcrats have a history of seizing defeat from the jaws of victory, while all the GOP has to do is keep it close enough, and they can steal what they need to close the gap. This thing is far from over.
And as for the commentary from Randi and Terry -- time to head back to the group home, kids. You know how the psych techs worry when someone wanders away. Besides, they're making balloon animals in Arts & Crafts today! Hurry along, now!

Posted by: Waiting For Godot | September 11, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

http://www.courtrecords.alaska.gov/pa/pa.urd/pamw6500.display

CNN i just wanted to know why Sarah Palin has defense court records for alaska.. I mean this information is Public Record.. You can go onto alaska court site. Just type in her name and actual records pop up on heR! I dont get it... I THOUGHT SHE WAS A REFORMER

Posted by: MONI | September 11, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

I'm pretty sure Obama never killed a baby.

Supporting a woman's right to choose is not the same as killing a baby, and only someone with absolutely no clue about anything would think so.

And even if it is, John McCain is then guilty of the killing of tens of thousands of men, women, and children by voting in favor of the invasion and occupation of Iraq.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 11, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

God should punish Obama for killing live babies.

Posted by: Terry | September 11, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Wow, God'll be busy punishing the wicked here. First Randi, now Terry.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 11, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Obama is just another Mohammed Atta.

Obama is Al-Queda.

Posted by: Terry | September 11, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Randi is a bigoted, ignorant fool.

On 9/11 (or any other day, for that matter), she should be struck by lightning and smited by a vengeful God.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 11, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Obama is a Muslim terrorist.

On 9/11, he should be sent to jail.

Posted by: Randi | September 11, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

50% sound
40% fury
10% significant -- the part where Palin becomes a very valuable surrogate to crucial culturally conservative audiences in the Rust Belt.

Obama still has certain fundamental advantages in money, Republican unpopularity, and bad economy (and polls still show that as the top issue and one he wins). But it was never a sure thing, and it still isn't.

Posted by: Joey | September 11, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

The real "sound and fury signifying nothing" is Obama's change argument, especially with respect to the economy.

There has been a bipartison consensus around market economics and free trade best exemplified by the views of Robert Rubin and Alen Greenspan.

Does Obama endorse these views? Or reject them? Little will change will occur if he endorses them. If he rejects them, he will put the US on the same path to failure as has occured wherever socialism is tried.

Posted by: Razorback | September 11, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Former GOP Senator Lincoln Chafee has just come out and referred to Sarah Palin as a "cocky wacko"

That was not what the McCain campaign wanted to hear. There's no way that they wanted Chafee, the anti-Lieberman, to weigh in on this.

Posted by: JamesCH | September 11, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Wonder if it is true that the actual candidate that bumps off mutual opponent of both parties will win in November? Apparently the opponent exposed corruption within both parties and is specifically targeted.

The question is how... For example, will the GOP use a Guiliani-like mob ties such as his protege Bernard Kerik was indicted with 140 years of jail time? Will the Dems use an OJ Simpson-like convict with jail time instead? Will both parties use the popular law enforcement community practice of 'sweetheart exchange deals' where crimes/murders are committed in exchange for less penalty on their behalf?

And do we have to worry about our family's safety having shared this detail now? Will my husband be targeted and murdered during his daily jog after work in Hackensack and Bogota, NJ around 4pm today? Especially since all our habits and plans are known in advance due to bugging devices implanted both in public and private?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 11, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

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