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Week in Preview: Shaping the Map

As of today, there are only 57 shopping days left in the presidential election. And, with polls showing an extremely tight race between Barack Obama and John McCain, what happens over the next eight weeks will determine the identity of the next president.

While both campaigns will seek to win every day -- from a message standpoint -- there are only a few major developments sure to impact the race. The biggest, of course, are the four debates -- the presidential set-to's on Sept. 26, Oct. 7, and Oct. 15 and the vice presidential gathering on Oct. 2.

But the other indicator to keep an eye on is the list of battleground states for each campaign. Obama began advertising in 18 states at the start of the general election but has cut back its spending -- most notably in Georgia where the campaign had already spent $2 million on commercials.

Obama is still advertising in places like North Carolina, Virginia and Montana -- traditional Republican strongholds at the presidential level -- but both campaigns seem to be focusing more and more of their time on a handful of states like Pennsylvania, Michigan, Ohio and Florida where the last two presidential elections have been decided.

"There are 11 or 12 or maybe 13 places that are going to be swing states in this election," predicted McCain campaign manager Rick Davis during an interview last week in St. Paul. "The field of play is relatively well defined. We are now down to a much more defined set of states than it was six months ago."

The smaller -- and more traditional -- the set of truly competitive battleground states this fall, the better for McCain's chances. McCain has accepted the $84 million in public financing for the general election while Obama has opted out -- meaning that the he will raise and spend as much as he can in as many states as he wants in the fall.

Obama campaign manager David Plouffe insisted late last month that while Obama may not win all of the states in which the campaign is making a major effort, it allows the Illinois senator a variety of different "paths" to the nomination -- giving him far more room for error than past Democratic nominees like Sen. John Kerry (Mass.) and former Vice President Al Gore.

The struggle between a traditional/McCain map and an unconventional/Obama map is one of the central fights of the next 57 days. Obama wants to stretch McCain as thin as possible with competitive fights all over the country; McCain wants to shrink the country down to a dozen (or less) states centered in the Rust Belt.

Our last take -- from mid-August -- on how things will shake out is below. We'll be back later today with our updated picks so remember to check this space.

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By Chris Cillizza  |  September 8, 2008; 8:09 AM ET
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The more Dems and the Lib media try to attack, slime and destroy Palin, the more they're driving undecideds like me to vote Rep.

Posted by: Frank L | September 14, 2008 11:56 PM | Report abuse

Is Sarah Palin the messiah who can raise the dead campaign of John McCain? Is she "the one" to restore life to a Republican Party that has been wallowing in depression after 8 years of disastrous policy failures? Is it God's will that She be a heart beat away from the Presidency?

George Bush said a lot of the same things to energize the extreme right-wing evangelicals to support him. He filled the federal government with employees who could pass the God/gun/abortion test. We now have a government that is so incompetent that most government functions are failing.

Bush, we know, didn't REALLY believe all the religious stuff. He was just pandering, under the supervision of Rove, to put together a political coalition to seize power and privatize government functions to his cronies in the private sector. Palin REALLY BELIEVES that nonsense and that makes her selection untenable to most Americans. It make the man who selected her, John McCain, a cynical, reckless and impulsive politician whose election would endanger America.

bus/McCain! no More Years!@

Posted by: thebob.bob | September 9, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

What's the difference between Gov. Sara Palin and George Bush? Lipstick!!

Posted by: Hoosier State | September 9, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

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Obama's people are desperate to cut apart Palin - it is unbelievable. Forget about Obama's campaign theme of the "new politics" and how different Obama is. Obama is a FRAUD TO HIS OWN CAMPAIGN THEME - JUST READ HIS BLOGGERS.

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Posted by: 37th&OStreet | September 9, 2008 7:44 AM | Report abuse

Obama wins.....it's said

Posted by: carl | September 9, 2008 4:59 AM | Report abuse

" Hey W! We are gonna change your policies, create a new GOP and shake up Washington! ... except for the wars, health care, tax cuts for the wealthy, tax cuts for corporations, energy policy, Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, supreme court nominations, choice, spying on Americans, Gitmo, torture, habeas corpus, politicizing the Justice Department, etc.

Your policies are over W! Sarah and I are gonna change everything!!

....yea right.

Posted by: toritto | September 8, 2008 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Just read Mike Allen's piece (on Politico.com) about Charlie Gibson's upcoming "interview" with Sarah Palin. Good grief! Instead of an honest-to-goodness SUBSTANTIVE hard-hitting INTERVIEW it sounds more like Charlie will be doing a PUFF CELEBRITY PIECE EXTRAORDINAIRE ala Barbara Walters!! This is really pathetic. No hard-hitting Q&A. Disgraceful. Is the rest of the MSM going to let Rick Davis & Co. get away with this? Can you imagine if this were "STEVE PALIN" - a total newcomer to the national political scene - who had not uttered ONE SINGLE UNSCRIPTED WORD IN 11 DAYS since being chosen??? Would the MSM be so meek and frankly, cowardly? Or would they create such a hew and cry about "Steve's" avoidance of answering TOUGH ISSUES questions that "Steve" would feel compelled to hold a press conference, do the Sunday political shows, etc.??? ONLY the WONDERFUL ROGER SIMON of POLITICO has had the GUTS to say that if Palin cannot answer the really TOUGH ISSUES questions from the MSM RIGHT NOW she has no business running to be VP! How about it MSM??? Are you as BRAVE as ROGER SIMON??? Or are you COWARDS who are SHIRKING your journalistic duties?


Posted by: Teresa | September 8, 2008 10:00 PM | Report abuse

I think that the issues have been forgotten in this election. But what do Americans really what?

...better wages? health care? an end to war?

McCain and Palin, like most Repubs before them will not deliver in theses areas, but maybe it doesn't matter. As a Canadian who spent years of childhood in the USA, in reality I am starting to believe that Americans are too wrapped-up in their pride assoicated winning the fight, doing it on their own, and maybe a race realted pride when it comes to having a smart black man lead the nation, to ever really consider the actual issues.

I think most of the world, french to arab to asian to kenyian must be wondering what the facination with this pride is. This American Pride. This "Leader of the Free World" stuff Americans love to go on about. This "Best Nation or Earth" Business.

It's too bad this pride has these days been perverted into a "stupid" pride; a way of thinking in no way rooted in the realities of globalization, vast demographic change within the states itself, and a huge resource depleation/climate change issue. I believe this perversion of thinking is easy to see in the Rush Limbaughs and that other man on Fox - BIll O'something. If these men represent American thinking, Americans can stop thinking of themselves as leaders. These people are manipulators of the worst kind - warmongers.

Yes, McCain and Palin might just be up to the job, and I dare you to post this comment.

Posted by: rob | September 8, 2008 9:44 PM | Report abuse

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The paid staffers at Obama's headquarters have been so nasty to Sarah Palin and her family.

When it comes down to writing the history of this election -


It will be said that the paid Obama bloggers brought down the campaign with their nasty and obnoxious postings which the American people have REJECTED.


McCain and Sarah are now leading in the polls and they will pull further ahead week by week.


The paid Obama bloggers have destroyed Obama's campaign - this is completely fitting - the paid Obama staffers blogging have been harassing other posters for months and finally the American people have seen these people for who they really are - AND THEY SEE OBAMA FOR THE OBNOXIOUS PERSON HE IS FOR ALLOWING HIS PAID STAFF BLOGGERS TO ABUSE OTHER AMERICANS WHO ARE EXERCISING THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL FREEDOM OF SPEECH - GOOD RIDDANCE MR. OBAMA.

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Posted by: 37th&OStreet | September 8, 2008 9:36 PM | Report abuse

McCain will win with at least 320 Electoral Votes.

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Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Hell, I'm a white folk, and I disrespect a lot of other white folks, right wing wackos for instance. So you're interpreting any criticism by Obama as disrespecting white folk? Racism is an ugly thing and you are showing your true colors. Hell, if you don't want to vote for a black man, that's your right - noone is standing with a gun to your head in the voting booth.

Posted by: Sandra S | September 8, 2008 8:36 PM | Report abuse

Voters want to know where Obama stands on the issues. The issues are clearly set forth in his Blueprint on his site, you idiots.

As far as Georgia, didn't you know that McSame's foreign policy adviser is from a law firm that lobbies for the country of Georgia.

And speak to Gen. Petreus to confirm that Obama met with him and others.

Where do you get your 'facts' from - you no-brain good excuse for abortion, failure from the no-child left behind Bush policy. (I'm saying this with a smile because apparently as per Sarah, it's OK to nail someone's nuts to the wall if you smile while doing it).

Posted by: Sandra S | September 8, 2008 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Why does Barama, his nutty wife and preacher, expend so much energy disrespecting white folks? What's that all about?

Posted by: Caitlyn | September 8, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

and sandra, i dont know who you are getting your facts from, cus its not the generals on the ground, but generals all across the board have stated how appaled they were that obama did NOT speak with them while on his visit to iraq.

Posted by: dale | September 8, 2008 7:30 PM | Report abuse

also sandra, the 19mil debt you speak of, was after a particularly efficient use of government money which eventually tripled the income of the state. same with the supposed cut she made on preschool funding, she only cut it after tripling the value of the state preschool program, (and the cut was less than 10% to what she added to the program).

as for the left wing bias that she is going to teach creationism in schools, she NEVER NOT ONCE voted for anything of the sort, she simply voiced the opinion that adding choices to a child's curriculum is a good thing, but i suppose you obviously prefer ignorance.

and despite your idiocy, she was the one who advocated for polar bears to be added to the endangered species list in the first place, only to change her status when environmentalists used it as an argument to not drill ANWR.

sandra s. i bet you think we should have gone to the UN before standing up for georgia too?

because russia would be civil, and not use thier veto powers right?

Posted by: dale | September 8, 2008 7:22 PM | Report abuse

the epitome of democratic logic, if a left wing sight uses another left wing site for "evidence" and "reference" its a fact.

sorry folks, but the reality is even -cough cough- respectable journalists have reported outright lies as facts. and obamas official website is hardly a valid debating platform. thanks but..."my dad can beat up your dad" just doesn't cut it when it comes to facts.

besides, according to the greatest logistical theorists of all time, there are two basic laws of logic.

occums razor: "the simplest solution to any phenomenon is always the most accurate"

and heinlein's razor: "never attribute to malice anything that can be attributed to stupidity"

as such both logical principles when combined state that a politician stating change through policies fundamentally impossible.

and that although circular logic seems to work for your small democratic mind, "obama says so" does not make it a fact.

also the "opinion polls" you so ignorantly tote as changing from day to day, where hailed as 100% honest predictors of the elections outcome when obama lead. the media only changed its stance on thier accuracy AFTER obama fell below mccain in the polls.

as for the electoral college, yes obama is ahead, but only by an average of 4 votes (the average elctoral map comes out with a 271-267 obama victory) (realclearpolitics.com) if you would like to check.

and if you factor in the average voting consistancy of obamas base voters (age 18-35) he would have to have a 5 point lead over mccain in ANY state that he holds in order for the voting record of his base voters to hold that state in the general election.

(sorry but fact is old people vote 80% of the time and young people are around 50%)

so yes, please check your facts mrs. sandra S. because most liberal websites have outdated opinion polls and electoral maps.

Posted by: dale | September 8, 2008 7:11 PM | Report abuse

Interesting that as soon as you post facts, the Repub trawlers go away.

Posted by: Sandra S | September 8, 2008 6:01 PM | Report abuse

FACTS you should know about Obama from his site which include resources you can check yourself:

http://factcheck.barackobama.com/

A complete blueprint for change and Obama's stand on all of the issues are available for downloading:

http://origin.barackobama.com/issues/

If you want to know his background:

http://www.barackobama.com/learn/meet_barack.php


Posted by: Sandra S | September 8, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

From "Businessweek":
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"Stacy Williams owns a three-bedroom house with a full basement and central air-conditioning in a quiet neighborhood on the upper west side of Youngstown, Ohio.

Williams, now 33, was earning $8.05 an hour as a manager at McDonald's when she moved into the house with her husband, a laborer at a construction equipment manufacturer, and son back in 2004. The couple's combined annual salary was $33,000. But the purchase didn't require much of a financial stretch: The house cost $48,000. "If you have the credit score to do it, there's nothing that can stop you from buying a home in Youngstown," said Williams, whose plans for the house include a second bathroom"

See! Republican economics works!! Here are two people working full time making $33K between them and they can afford a house!! Nine of the 10 "most affordable" places to live are in Indiana, Pennsylvania and Ohio!!

So why are these folks whining about lost jobs, healthcare, college affordability etc. They have it so good under Republican economics!! Housing prices have been driven so low that even a couple of burgher flippers can afford one!!!

So when you rust belt folks vote your "values" instead of your pocketbook, think about Johnnie boy's "patriotism" and how he is truly the "servant" of the nation. Screw you and your lost jobs, lack of healthcare, inabilibty to send your kid to college or pay for a wedding. If you're in deep economic doodoo and vote for more of the same, you deserve it.

Cindy Mc wore a $300,000 dress to the party; its you who are the servant.

Posted by: toritto | September 8, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Rampant rumor says the truth of the matter, the candidate that successfully target and murder mutual opponents wins the election in November. That this opponent has exposed corruption in both parties is the reason. Does that mean, as another sharp critic and opponent to both, should we worry about our family's physical safety too? Will our car be tampered? Bodies targeted while on the street? Etc.? Hm....

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

FACTS you should know about Palin's record:

1. In 2003, Mayor Palin left behind almost $19 million in long term debt in her town of 7,084 people.

2. She opposed funding for a state preschool program in Alaska but support teaching creationism in schools.

3. She was for the so-called Bridge to Nowhere before she was against it. While campaigning for Governor she supported the bridge and called the term offensive. On the national level, she reversed her position and now uses the term. I believe she has also kept the $47 million in funds that Alaska received from our tax money for this so called bridge.

4. She is strongly anti-choice opposing abortion even in cases of rape and incest.

5. She is among a shrinking group of politicians that are skeptical that humans are responsible for climate change. She also wanted to take polar bears off the endangered species list. (My comment: no doubt to continue murdering these creatures under the activity called 'sport hunting')


BTW, the polls you hear about daily are 'opinion' polls only based on calls, online surveys and change from day to day. The story is in the electoral votes which Obama is way ahead in, and which will be decided on November 4th, regardless of how hot and cold the polls run.

Posted by: Sandra S | September 8, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

BTW Alaska dropped to point to be 46th since Sarah Palin was elected. Another coincidence?

Posted by: Sparky | September 8, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse

The old saying goes 'Ignorance is bliss'

Must be why Arizona is ranked as lowest on the Smart State List.
http://www.morganquitno.com/edrank06.htm

Check the rankings and compare to the Red states. Hmmm a pattern perhaps?

Posted by: Sparky | September 8, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Thank you Torrito for telling it like it is.

On the lighter side, excerpts from Mark Morford's column: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2008/09/05/notes090508.DTL

"Here's a fun fact: Do you know why Bush and others get to call you "the angry left" and lightning does not strike them dead on the spot? Simple, lovebug: because they know something you don't.

"Here it is: Repubs know -- or rather, desperately hope -- that there remains a simply huge number of very ill-informed, reactionary Americans out there who are still operating on the lowest possible intellectual and cultural strata -- who are, for example, totally turned on by seeing Governor Palin in a power skirt wielding a rifle and a knocked-up teen daughter and a fetish for Creationism and oil and sexual ignorance, a woman who has called the war in Iraq "a task from God."

"This is McCain's apparent message to these effortlessly terrified throngs (aka "Bush's base"): You know who should be running this country if and when I don't make it through my first term? Hot chicks with guns! Check that: Hot neocon MILFs with guns who can skin a moose and who reject condoms and who don't know a Shia from a Sunni from an Eskimo pie, but who know lots about foreign policy because she can see part of Russia from her desk. Yay America!

"So I ask again, why so livid, liberal? Is it because it wasn't exactly "the angry left" who shoved institutionalized torture, pre-emptive military violence, or a complete disregard for science down the throat of American domestic policy? Is it the 4,000-plus dead U.S. soldiers, 10,000-plus wounded and brain-damaged, and tens of thousands of dead Iraqi civilians? Oh, you bleeding heart. So silly you are.

"But don't you worry, because there's an even bigger secret looming that the right wing can't really mention right now. See, much as they want to sling "angry left" around and hope it sticks, there's simply no getting over the fact that, despite how it will take the Obama administration many years to repair the incredible damage Hurricane Bush hath wrought, most of us on the left are actually feeling pretty damn good these days. Happy, even.

"See, we know the tide has turned. The Bush Dark Days are nearly over. The Obama groundswell is historic, extraordinary, unstoppable. The GOP had its turn, was handed six years of unprecedented, unchecked power, and very nearly destroyed the country. Even Republican leaders now openly admit their party is a mess, shattered and gutted by Bush, will take years and decades to restore to something resembling dignity. And McCain/Palin? An aberration, one of the most disquieting quasi-conservative tickets to ever give a nation the creeps.

"So then, trust me when I say, try as they might, "the angry left" won't stick. As anyone with the slightest sense of history and poetic justice knows, such a jab is merely the final, desperate wailings of the bankrupt, the shameful, and the doomed."

Posted by: Sandra S | September 8, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Yulia is hotter!

Posted by: Hotter | September 8, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Rangel should not be indicted like Stevens' was. The left press is killing us. We can't be weird or illegal anymore without them wanting to hang us.

Posted by: Jet | September 8, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

I'm worried about Obama, he does not look well. Has anyone else noticed this?

Posted by: Jet | September 8, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

I'm an old retired guy who doesn’t have to work and I can honestly say it won't matter to me in the long run who wins this election. At my age any election I participate in could be my last. I do believe however that the current administration has been the worst in my lifetime (born during FDR). I don't think anyone can rationally deny that. We have had 8 years of corruption, unnecessary war and shredding of the Constitution. Over the weekend we reached the highest unemployment rate in 5 years and the deregulated Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac had to be rescued by the taxpayers before they collapsed of their own accord. Now this party wants us to give them 4 more years so that John the "maverick" can fix Washington. ...like I was born yesterday.

If "small town working class" rust-belt voters and disgruntled Clinonistas in Ohio, Pa., Michigan and Indiana help re-elect the GOP then I for one don't want to hear anymore whining from them about their disappearing jobs and livelihoods, the high cost of college and gas, lack of health care etc. Let Johnnie's "patriotism" put food on your table. Go flip burghers!

Screw 'ya. Cling to your guns and religion. Pray to Jesus when you go hunting for a meal. Stay with that church and keep your weapon. You will need both the soup kitchen and the rifle. You will deserve what you get.

I got mine already. I live comfortably in the sunny South on a golf course, got my steady income, my "socialist" medicare and prescription drug coverage that you younger people wish you had but will never get under the Republicans. I sent my girls to college and they are successfully out on their own. The world won't run out of gas before I go and the planet won't get too hot.

A McCain election ain't gonna hurt me!

As Johnny Carson used to say - I upped my lifestyle - up yours!

God helps those who help themselves - if you're in deep doodoo economically and you vote Republican for their "values", you deserve it.

Posted by: toritto | September 8, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Wow, check out the Prime Minister of Ukraine, Yulia Tymoshen. I think our Sarah is hotter than she is -- Sarah is more vibrant.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/08/cheney-mccain-palin-administration-will-be-unlike-any-other/

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 8, 2008 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Sandra S. wrote;
“And talking about fingers on the button - remember that Palin, a right wing fundamentalist religous wacko, would be a heartbeat away from a finger on the nuclear trigger.”

I am reminded of Reagan vs. Carter (first election I voted in). Carter agreed upon the strategy of painting Reagan as some nut job ready to push the nuke buttons. His problem was the debates since Reagan did not appear to be any half crazed lunatic ready to nuke as their strategy suggested. Some in Carter’s inner circle think they lost the elections due to the debate; however, I have news for them Carter lost that election way before the debates. I know of many who voted ABC…Anybody But Carter.

All that to say the lower the expectations you set for Palin…trailor trash, no experience, fundamentalist religious wacko, how can she be a mother and a good VP…you do nothing but strength her since she will surely pass the low bar you have set for her.

Posted by: sltiowa | September 8, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse

McCain can't win without Ohio. There is no scenario I can see that doesn't involve him winning the election without winning Ohio. Therefore if I were Barack Obama I would be building myself an electoral firewall in Ohio, moving every surrogate I can muster to the state, and would be planning as many events as I could to increase my chances.

Obama on the other hand should flip Iowa and New Mexico from the Kerry/Bush electoral map. This would put Obama at 260EVs. If he can flip either Colorado, Virginia or Ohio he is home (well tied if he just gets Colorado). The outside picks for a flip are: Nevada, Montana, North Carolina, Florida, New Hampshire.

I don't think Florida will flip as McCain is popular amongst retirees. I don't think NC will flip either because it is a big ask given the racial tensions. But I do think it is possible to flip Montana, New Hampshire and Nevada if they are played correctly, which would give Obama a work around even if he lost Florida, Ohio and Colorado. The win wouldn't be pretty, but as Karl Rove said 51% is enough.

Posted by: Mike | September 8, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Interesting implication of the acceleration of the GOP "convention bump" tracking poll & poll movements: The serious spikes yesterday & today in the tracking polls mean that a serious bump came well after the Palin speech was fully factored into the 3-day averages. I.e. there was a very big McCain speech bump.

I have written elsewhere about what I feel about the McCain speech, that it's more important and deeper than most people realize. Many decades ago, Lincoln's Gettysburg Address was panned when he first delivered it. In an era of great eloquence & rhetorical flourishes, his plain but powerful words seemed unartful. But they resonated and grew with time. Likewise, this is an election year in which the standards for rhetorical performances are very, very high.

I'm not trying to compare McCain's speech with Lincoln's. But his closing words, that Americans don't run from history, Americans make history, are a powerful indicator that he, as do I, view the next president as one who will have to face serious challenges and this is an era of historic changes (that will be forced on us whether we want them or not!)

I think that the power of the poll bumps in the past couple of days are undeniably in part due to McCain's speech, which the afffected and shallow press has characteristically ignored as it was plainly-spoken and simply delivered. But it was a more important speech, I think, than its reception got.

I HIGHLY recommend that people re-view it. (After he's done with the really slow introductory part, the real substantial part, which starts at minute 19:00.)

John McCain Republican Convention Speech 09/05/2008:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F0d6MChQnY

Another thing about McCain's speech is the POW part. I think that, where he finally talks publicly about his POW experience & what it meant to his development, was an implicit contrast Obama's narcissism in not picking Hillary Clinton as his VP. McCain talks about how he, too, thought he never needed anyone else, that he was the most important person in the world. In that way, too, I think its simple messages were a powerful rejection of the personal-mystique campaign of Barack Obama, just as Sarah Palin's grounded celebrity wattage delivered on a simple stage was an implicit argument against Obama's glib, elitist celebrity packaging, with its $6 million temple-stages, fireworks and orchestral musical score.

Obama's wild, unprecedented spending on his convention was not a great context from which to send any meaningful economic messages of how he won't be a tax-and-spend democrat who will worsen a recessionary economy, as McCain has argued Obama would be.

Overall, the McCain convention was a powerful refutation of everything that the Obama convention was, from the Obama convention's opulence to the personally aggrandizing flourishes & extravagances.

Obama's convention was a shallow, pretentious affair and his speech negatively attacking Republicans & McCain was mainly tired partisan rhetoric from every past convention. It was a wildly expensive, ineffective convention.

McCain's simple, inexpensive and hurricane-truncated convention turns out to be a powerfully effective one.

If McCain's convention bump sticks, it will be larger than most Republican convention bumps have been historically. The RCP average has climbed 6 percent & are still rising.

Obama's convention was clearly a bust, while every detail of McCain's simple, hurricane-challenged convention was effective, and I do believe that McCain's speech may not have received the attention it deserved from the media.

This is an interesting opportunity to compare McCain's leadership with Obama's, by comparing the spending & effectiveness of Obama's convention with McCain's.

Again, I highly recommend viewing McCain's speech again (albeit skipping the first 19 mins).

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 8, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Critics of Obama and foreign affairs, particularly the state of the world as has come about because of Bush GOP politics, and would continue to get aworse under a cult-chanting McCain/Palin ticket.

Obama has taken the time to speak with the generals and the people that know what is going on. He will have in his cabinet experts that advise him like all presidents do. You are mistaking grandstanding rhetoric of McCain with reality. That is magical thinking.

Obama is more up on foreign affairs than George BUsh was and by some miracle, our country has survived 8 years of his corrupt and inept administration.

And talking about fingers on the button - remember that Palin, a right wing fundamentalist religous wacko, would be a heartbeat away from a finger on the nuclear trigger.

American just cannot afford to have eight more years of GOP policies.

Posted by: Sandra S | September 8, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Latest figures for electoral votes:

Obama: 303.9
McCain: 234.1

"This isn't the first time a boss has picked an unqualified woman just because she agrees with him and opposes everything most other women want and need. Feminism has never been about getting a job for one woman. It's about making life more fair for women everywhere."
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-steinem4-2008sep04,0,7915118.story

The reality is not in the polls which are based on an unknown quantity and change day to day like the stock market. The reality will be in the voting booth on November 4th.

Posted by: Sandra S | September 8, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Obama Junkie wrote;
Meanwhile foreign affairs are moving in very troubling ways like:
1) Russia and Venezuela are planning on naval exercises in the carribean (close to US waters).
2) Pakistan has a new president.
3) Iraq may not have provincial elections in about a month.
4) North Korea is re-starting their nuclear reactors.
Now is the time to understand how the candidates view what America's response should be to these developing issues
I know what Obama is going to do call Biden, but what happens to Obama if something happens to Biden…remember Obama is only a heart beat away from any experience.

Posted by: sltiowa | September 8, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Another bad day for the Baracky Hussein Obama campaign.

Rep. Charles B. Rangel paid no mortgage interest on a beach resort property for more than 10 years, a lawyer for the powerful House committee chairman said yesterday.

Democrats for John McCain 2008.

Posted by: Dennis | September 8, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

>>in the burbs wrote: "Aspergirl, I may not always agree with you, but you are FUNNY. Not sure if the troll got the insult, but it made me laugh at least."

When I first started, I spent hours trying to listen & argue until I realized that some of the people were just trying to drive off non-Obama supporters, that the harassment was a game.

Thank you for saying something nice.

I really want to see the news forums to share information & learn from others, not fight.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 8, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

ALL NATIONAL & NATIONAL TRACKING POLLS OUT AS OF 1:30

Poll Name -------- McCain/Obama --- Difference

CNN ------------- 48 / 48 -------- Tie
USA Today/Gallup ---54 / 44 -------- McCain +10
Rasmussen Tracking- 48 / 47 -------- McCain +1
Hotline/FD Tracking - 44 / 44 -------- Tie
Gallup Tracking ---- 49 / 44 ---------McCain +5

RCP Average ------- 48.6 / 45.4 ----- McCain +3.2

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 8, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

No one is going to take Hillary or Bill campaigning for Obama seriously at this point. We all know they are pretty much being forced to campaign for him if they want to be a part of the democratic party. I believe what they said about Obama before. Not what they are saying now.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

"(1) "deep-seeded" -- get an education at least above the high school level before attacking other people's political views as being valueless. Your lack of complex thinking is your real problem, along with an simple meme database. "deep-seeded" is how you plant asparagus."


Aspergirl, I may not always agree with you, but you are FUNNY. Not sure if the troll got the insult, but it made me laugh at least.

Posted by: in the burbs | September 8, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Republicans would shrink government and government programs, while giving large corporations like Haliburton, Exon Mobile and Walmart more tax breaks and less oversight to do what they please.

Americans have always had the freedom of choice, but the Republicans would take away a woman's right to choose.

Our founding fathers deliberately separated state and religion. Look at the current situation in Iraq - they can't get it togehter because they can't separate state and religion. The Republican base is driven by Evangelical conservatives. They put Bush-Cheney in office and they are working to put McCain-Palin in office, so things won't change if the Repbulicans get elected, the conservative Evangelicals will still be in charge.

People say that want someone with experience. Lincoln didn't have much experience, yet he turned out to be the greatest President. Experience without good judgement, intelligencem, integrity, strategic thinking and ability to get along well with others is meaningless. How many of you have worked for managers who were selected because they had a lot of "experience" but who failed as managers because they didn't have the ability to think strategically and to deal with people? How many of you have had managers who you thought should not have been chosen because they lacked "experience" but turned out to be the best manager because they had the right vision and people skills? This is the case in this election. Experience is not all that matters, it's having the right vision and temperment to deal not only with constiuents at home but with world leaders and leaders with opposing visions that matters.

McCain has a militaristic view of America's role. We are not the world's military. We don't have the resources to do that and no nation should play that role. History tells us that no nation can accomplish that and it only leads to the downfall of that nation.

It's time we focus on Americans at home and to take care of America.

Posted by: nevadaandy | September 8, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

I’m at a Tribute to Cindy McCain lunch in Minneapolis. Elizabeth Hasselbeck from The View is emcing and she just announced : “Unlike the wife of another political candidate who shall remain nameless, [Cindy McCain] didn’t come [to cohost The View] with a list of topics we weren’t allowed to touch.”

Posted by: fairness doctrine | September 8, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

>> metoo wrote: "poor ASWIPEGIRL......her batteries died so all she has to play with is her keyboard."

HOW OBAMA'S EXPERIENCE QUALIFIES AS PRESIDENTIAL (NOT)

Obama is a freshman senator in the U.S. senate and has been mainly engaged in running for president since his first year. What is his professional history?

Obama got a "community organizer" job after 2 years of unemployment after graduating from Columbia with a bachelor's degree. And as his book admits, he didn't get anywhere as a "community organizer" and that's why he went back to law school.

And as we all know, after graduating from law school, Obama failed to make partner at his law firm, set no precedents in cases he might have handled, didn't get published in any law review and didn't produce any scholarly or professional works of any nature contributing to the field of law.

Obama's probably the only politician in the U.S. to not accomplish a single thing with an ivy league law degree before going into politics.

Obama's years as a state senator in Illinois were so devoid of any leadership that he voted "present" 130 times instead of "yes" or "no", now claiming he had to do so to avoid taking stands on "controversial legislation" (as if there were 130 career-killing controversial laws he had to take a pass on at the state level, come on!).

As an Illinois state senator, Obama climbed the greased pole of corrupt, dirty Chicago politics leveraging racist politics of Trinity Church, insider ex-radical terrorists like William Ayers' networks and trading favors with corruption figures like his convicted slumlord friend Tony Rezko.

Obama has never published journal article in any law review, collaborated on any professional project, engaged in no landmark signature legislation, or made any tangible, substantial contribution of any nature to his professions as a lawyer or politician.

The only tangible works Barack Obama produced in his life are 2 fictionalized books about himself, glorifying his search for identity and his alcoholic, polygamous, already-married Kenyan father who was a failed Muslim communist (huh?) who knocked up his then-17-year-old mother and then abandoned them.

Lately, Obama has been trying to claim his "experience" "running" a campaign stacks up against Sarah Palin's experience as elected Governor of Alaska! Running for president is the experience needed to be president! That's almost as self-referential as "we are the ones we've been waiting for"!

Finally, I was shocked to discover that Obama uses a whole team of speechwriters! Giving great, inspirational speeches is THE ONLY professional leadership talent he has true claim to! He wasn't even writing his own speeches this whole time.

NY Times Feature Article on Obama's Head Speechwriter
By Ashley Parker, The New York Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/20/fashion/20speechwriter.html

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

>> bondjedi wrote: "Re: AsperGirl's poll summary - Good job cherry-picking polls with McCain leads."

The polls I posted were all the last ones, not "cherry picked". One of the reasons I don't like to respond to you is that your lies aren't even interesting ones.

Here's the latest page of national polls at realclearpolitics:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html

>>"Also, you should scour your hate sites for an explanation of what the electoral college is."

I get info mostly from sites that are leading national & international media outlets.

All of the state polls are out of date now. They have to be resurveyed after after the conventions. It will be days & weeks before all the "57 states" are repolled.

The new state polls that are coming in, tho, show significant McCain bumps. So the electoral map, when all new polls are in, will show him up, too.

ALL of the latest national & tracking polls:

CNN
McCain 48, Obama 48 Tie

USA Today/Gallup
McCain 54, Obama 44 McCain +10

Hotline/FD Tracking
McCain 44, Obama 44 Tie

Rasmussen Tracking
McCain 48, Obama 47 McCain +1

Gallup Tracking
McCain 48, Obama 45 McCain +3

>>"Please post some Rezko stuff in response to this, if you're taking requests."

TOP 10 SIGNS THAT THE GUY HELPING YOU BUY YOUR MANSION IS UNDER INDICTMENT

Your new friend Tony Rezko shows up at your Illinois state senate office with the land surveys for your adjoining lots hidden in his trench coat

Rezko's wife never takes off her sunglasses or gets out of the car to talk

When splitting the cost of co-buying the joint properties, due to some cool accounting thing you only owe $10 for your half!

Rezko's share of the down payment is cash he carries in brown paper bags that have greasy stains and "Iraq oil for food program" printed on them

The guys who work up on top of his telephone pole for hours have "FBI" printed on the back of their t-shirts

The Sheriff often stops by to tape papers to Rezko's fence

Rezko wears unique ankle jewelry when he works around his property adjoining yours

When he and Louis Farrakhan run into each other at Trinity Church, he winks in your direction and they do a "fist bump"

Your lastest look at your neighbor/friend was a sketch artist drawing that showed him sitting at a table in front of a judge

The guy "Ahmed" you met at Rezko's barbeque last Summer looks a lot like the picture on Homeland security bulletin just tacked to the Illinois senate side door bulletin board

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

"atleast i have more comment sense then obama"

too good to pass up ~ god luvya carla

Posted by: juicy bits | September 8, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

poor ASWIPEGIRL......her batteries died so all she has to play with is her keyboard...sure explains a lot. tsk tsk tsk......get a man.

Posted by: metoo | September 8, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Admittedly "mavericks", what does it matter what McCain/Palin say? If elected they'll just go their own way.

--- And looking at their previous experience: In McCain's own way (and his own words), he voted with the Bush administration 90% of the time.

And Palin? -- well it's her way or the highway. She got her way with the bridge she promised, then canned it for other roads.

The religious right is right about abortion and oh so wrong about how to make a real difference. AND although God gives us free will, the anti-abortion lobbyists want to take it away.

Posted by: ash | September 8, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

In my book, she isn't being held by any standard, in fact, she isn't even being considered, and here's why:

This is a very interesting read I found from an unusual and surprisingly religious perspective. I highly recommend checking it out:

http://www.newsflavor.com/Opinions/McCain-Hijacks-Christianity-Via-Palin.240929

Posted by: LaRae | September 8, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

RealClearPolitics has McCain up 2.1 percent. Their electoral count, with no toss-ups, still shows Obama up by 8 votes. But that includes New Hampshire, where Obama is up 0.3 and the last poll RCP counts, a Rasmussen from Aug. 18, had Obama up just one. Flip the state's four votes, and there's a tie. Flip Colorado too, where Obama has a 0.4 percent lead but the last poll RCP counts comes from Aug. 24-26, and McCain wins by 18.

Posted by: ramesh | September 8, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

THE PALIN SELECTION AND THE DIMINUTION OF DEMOCRACY:
IS A SILENT COUP HAPPENING IN THE U.S.A?

• Could the Palin Phenomenon be a symptom of a seismic power grab that is transforming our government?

• Is the Palin selection part of a larger plan to seize control of the Executive Branch and make it beholden to another set of decision-makers -- unelected, entrenched, and in charge of the forces of power and control?

• Could the federal takeover of more than half of the mortgage market via the Fannie Mae and Fredie Mac bailout signal a turn toward autocratic control of the economy by hard-right conservatives who comprise the corporate/military/security complex -- what Eisenhower in his farewell address warning called "the military/industrial complex"?

• Could this seizure of economic control further the interests of those who are using government policy as "social engineering" to neutralize political opposition and transform society to suit their far-right ideology?

• Could this plan dovetail with reports from a Dutch newspaper this past week that the U.S. is planning to strike Iran's nuclear facilities?

• Could the fruition of the "Help America Vote Act," which led to the widespread use of electronic voting machines, the vast majority of which leave no voter-verified paper trail, also be part of this mosaic?

• Could John McCain's vacillations on the vice president issue and his eventual acquiescence to those who recommended Palin be part of a skillful campaign to influence and oversee his decision-making?

• Are we in the midst of a silent coup that is resulting in the loss of personal freedom via the extra-legal targeting of American citizens in an unconstitutional bypass of the judicial system, a denial of due process under the law?

• And is this power grab resulting in the emasculation of both Congress and the Judiciary, rendering those institutions little more than symbolic of power, when in fact power has been quietly usurped by unelected officials of entrenched institutions of power and control?

• Is anyone -- in the media, in Congress, in think tanks, in academia -- pondering these questions?

• If not, can we afford NOT to be asking these questions?

http://www.theocracywatch.org
http://www.nowpublic.com/scrivener - "Gov't Agenices Support Domestic Torture"

Posted by: Thomas Paine | September 8, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

If Obama wins, will all of the O’s be removed from the White House keyboards?”

Posted by: just wonderin | September 8, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Re: AsperGirl's poll summary - Good job cherry-picking polls with McCain leads. Also, you should scour your hate sites for an explanation of what the electoral college is.

Please post some Rezko stuff in response to this, if you're taking requests. Also, some Jeremiah Wright - we haven't seen anything about him lately.

Posted by: bondjedi | September 8, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

I’m sure, by this time — on one of our righty sites — you’ve seen the New York Times’s editorial on the vice-presidential nomination of Geraldine Ferraro. (The editorial came out on July 3, 1984.) But in case you haven’t — well, you may wish to memorize it:

Where is it written that only senators are qualified to become President? . . . Or where is it written that mere representatives aren’t qualified, like Geraldine Ferraro of Queens? . . . Where is it written that governors and mayors, like Dianne Feinstein of San Francisco, are too local, too provincial? . . . Presidential candidates have always chosen their running mates for reasons of practical demography, not idealized democracy. . . . What a splendid system, we say to ourselves, that takes little-known men, tests them in high office and permits them to grow into statesmen. . . . Why shouldn’t a little-known woman have the same opportunity to grow?

Posted by: we b hypocrite libs | September 8, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

“Did you get the impression that McCain’s message was that the government needs fixing, while Obama’s message was that the country needs fixing? Quite a difference there.”

Posted by: jay | September 8, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Post-convention national polls as of noon:

McCain up in all, except for 1 tie

USA Today/Gallup 09/05 - 09/07 54-44 McCain +10
Hotline/FD Tracking 09/05 - 09/07 44-44 Tie
Rasmussen Tracking 09/05 - 09/07 48-47 McCain +1
Gallup Tracking Poll 09/04 - 09/06 48-45 McCain +3

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 8, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

What the F???? There's something wrong with the map. Alaska Undecided? I thought part of the reason of picking Palin was to take Alaska away from the Democrats!

:)

Posted by: NoOneImportant | September 8, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Woodward's book is sanctioned by the Administration.Why else would the key players be granting in-depth interviews to him.The book is managed news and managed history.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Most liberals will tell you that they don’t hate America, they merely hate George Bush. But when you ask them why they hate him so much, they start yammering about the invasion of Iraq, even though all the Democratic bigwigs spent the 1990s calling for regime change, and later voted for the invasion. The left also hates Bush because of the Patriot Act. They insist it’s cost us many of our basic freedoms. But I have yet to ask a liberal to name a single freedom he had under Clinton that he doesn’t have today and received a coherent answer. Yet, even I can come up with one. Thanks to Jimmy Carter, who allowed the Islamic crazies to get a foothold in Iran by turning his back on the Shah, and Bill Clinton, who spared Osama bin Laden’s life on more than one occasion, I no longer have the freedom to arrive at an airport half an hour before boarding and expect to make my flight.

Posted by: bert | September 8, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Glad to see Palin/McCain leading in polls.
THAT IS WHAT THE DEMOCRATS GET FOR "TAMPOONING" US WOMEN!

The Democratic party has used us for our votes, our faces on their facade to portray diversity, and us and Sen. Clinton to fund their party. What us women have gotten in return? Couple tampoons(little) to shut us up.

Thanks to the only wise and kind man in Washington, we can now have a woman to represent us in Washington. Thank you Sen. McCain! We love you!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

obama talks about i,mmy brothers keepers and sisters keepers he is telling us how to be helpful to others like we do not know, atleast i have more comment sense then obama after hearing how his blood related half brother is living under less then a 1oo dollar a month. he can not help his brother how is he going to help us.wake up america this guy just want to show that it is his ego to be pres not to help us but fatting his pocket like he did in chicago making deals for rusco.in return for cheap house and property,shame on him i thought that there was hope but he failed me

Posted by: carla | September 8, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

In a move he will surely come to regret in the weeks to come Obama used the same tactic in an interview with Fox News’ Bill O’Reilly earlier in the day. When O’Reilly pointed out the unassailable fact that the surge in Iraq is working, the for-now frontrunner admitted that it “succeeded beyond our wildest dreams.” But he also insisted that it did so “in ways that nobody anticipated…including President Bush and the other supporters.”

At best, this seems like an embarrassingly naïve position, at worst a willfully ignorant one. Why would Bush, Cheney, Jack Keane, and others have initiated the surge at all if they had not anticipated the ways it would succeed and measured them against ways it could fail?

Like his media sympathizers’ insistence that Palin was akin to a lightning strike, Obama’s response is likely to strike most voters as fundamentally childish. Sure their strategies are working. Sure Bush is defeating the terrorists, and McCain may very well defeat me. But not because they meant to…

Posted by: playground logic | September 8, 2008 12:22 PM | Report abuse

>> bondjedi wrote: "...Asspergirl lies, not even close to the truth."

WHAT'RE DEMOCRATS THINKING TO BE SO SEXIST & BELITTLING?
TO UNDERSTAND THEM, YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO THEIR GOSSIP!
BELOW: OBAMA DEMOCRATS BEHIND-THE-SCENES HO-TRASHING.
THE SEXUAL BELITTLING OF WOMEN ON DAILYKOS;
WHAT CLINTON & HER SUPPORTERS ENDURED FOR MONTHS!

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HERE THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT PALIN LIKE SHE'S A HO

 headline: Palin chges equation Palin = spit take (3+ / 0-)
by henry dribble on Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 09:22:26 PM PDT

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ALSO, ACCORDING TO DAILYKOS, PALIN'S A MILK MACHINE

 Palin on the campaign trail (0+ / 0-)
The selection of Sarah Palin as vice-presidential running-mate gives a whole new meaning to the term 'Family Values'. Maybe Sarah can be equipped with a little breast-pump-necklace she can use on the campaign trail when her feeding-modules begin to leak. 
Very shortly, we understand, Trig's nutritional requirements can be fulfilled by sister Bristol, while mommie is out dowsing for votes, but Sarah will still need the pump - - at least until she quits lactating.
by SGaston on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 06:39:33 AM PDT

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HERE THE GAY KOSSACK PEDOPHILES JOIN THE PERV-FEST!

 Drill Baby Drill - Palin Daughter's Boyfriend!!! (0+ / 0-)
Let me drill baby, let me drill! LOL
by PunditHater on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 07:16:12 PM PDT

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THE CONSENSUS THERE NOW IS THAT HILLARY'S PRESENCE IN THE PARTY IN THE FUTURE MAY BE TOLERATED IF SHE BECOMES OBAMA'S ANTI-WOMAN TOOL. I.E. IF SHE PLAYS THE ROLE OF ATTACKING OTHER LEADING WOMEN FOR OBAMA, THE "ACORN" PEOPLE WON'T MAKE SURE SHE LOSES HER SENATE SEAT AS THEY HAVE BEEN SAYING THEY PLAN TO DO NEXT NY SENATE ELECTIONS.

 Yeah, nothing like a Sarah Palin out there to (16+ / 0-)
make you think Hillary doesn't suck as much as you thought, and we should probably welcome her back into the fold a little, if only to block the Palins of the world.
by voracious on Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 09:35:56 PM PDT

 Sarah Palin Is A Job (0+ / 0-)
for Hillary Clinton.
by IrascibleFachna on Wed Sep 03, 2008 at 10:04:45 PM PDT

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YOU SHOULD SEE THE PATHOLOGICAL STUFF THAT GOES ON OVER AT DAILYKOS IN THE "HIDDEN" THREADS THE PUBLIC CAN'T READ! LOTS OF WEIRD SICKO FANATICS OVER THERE!

OBAMA SUPPORTERS ARE THE MOST BELITTLING MISOGYNISTS EVER, IT'S LIKE POLITICS AT THE LEVEL OF A GHETTO HIP HOP VIDEO!

THEY STILL LAUGH & JEER AT THE SUGGESTION THAT OBAMA MIGHT HAVE STOOPED TO MAKING CLINTON EVEN HIS VP!

TALK ABOUT "THE BLIND LEADING THE BLIND", THIS IS THE STUPID & BIGOTED LEADING THE OUT-OF-TOUCH MEDIA!

IF BARACK OBAMA WINS, THESE VOICES WILL BECOME MAINSTREAM U.S. CULTURE!

(IS THIS THE NEW "TONE" YOU PROMISED TO BRING TO POLITICS, OBAMA? TREATING PROMINENT AMERICAN WOMEN LIKE GHETTO HOS? NEWSFLASH: AMERICA IS SHOWING THAT IT DOESN'T LIKE THE "TONE" THAT YOU, VIA YOUR TRASHY SUPPORTERS, HAVE BROUGHT TO AMERICAN POLITICS THIS YEAR!)

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 8, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Hey Obama-junkie - when you start coming down and reality begins to take shape, do you get the shakes that can only be cured by another empty rhetorical speech? that is true for most junkies.

Posted by: kingofzouk | September 8, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

>> bondjedi wrote: "And "verbally inappropriate language"? You need a psychiatrist AND a proof-reader."
>> bondjedi wrote: "...Asspergirl lies, not even close to the truth."
>> bondjedi wrote: "Which wingnut hate site sis you rip this idea from?"
>> theTruth wrote: "It's hard to focus on those goofs when there are so many wing-nut goofs like you to zero in on."

(It's so obvious when you switch to other names when I try to ignore you.)

>> bondjedi wrote: "Quit your crying"

I'm not "crying", I just post opposition material on Obama when Obamabots start being verbally abusive & personally attacking. (see post that follows)

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 8, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse

This election is really a job interview. The job is governing a great big country with lots of problems, i wont list them, these comments are mostly too long now.and some are really stupid, have nothing to so with the issues
Qualifications for the job include; experience in management.loyalty to country, proven dedication to the job when things get tough. Length of service in prior positions, effective ness in making changes when dishonesty is apparent; good money management.
McCain/ Obama. which man meets these standards?
Remember; age discrimination is illegal in this country.the choice is clear to me, stop filtering the information through preconcieved ideas, what is it for meism.

Posted by: Nancy | September 8, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Right now I think McCain is winning the ad war. Obama 's campaign has to improve its message. With the right message in Pa., Fl., Oh., Mi., In., and Va., Obama has a real chance to win a majority of electoral votes from those states. His hope is his message, i.e., failed Republican leadership leading to a failed economy and a failed war/international policy.

Obama's message has to be so strong that it overcomes working-person/middle class voters' unease with the messenger.
Whether it be race, youth, educational level, poise, intellect, or some such attribute, these voters appear to have a difficulty accepting Obama.

Obama's more limited experience, personal history, or past associations - all items which might be mentioned as justifications for not voting for Obama - cause far less problems for many of the working person/middle class voters than those characteristics listed in the above paragraph.

These voters will favor him only if they become convinced that the country is in its such bad shape because of the Republican leadership and that electing McCain, despite his trying to disavow his party, will be a choice to continue that failed leadership.

Posted by: Byron | September 8, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

"WASHINGTON - Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama acknowledged Sunday that he was probably too flip when he said it was "above my pay grade" to answer a question about when is a baby entitled to human rights"

I am hereby promoting myself to god and now it is in my paygrade.

Posted by: snObama | September 8, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

"WASHINGTON - Democrat Barack Obama says he would delay rescinding President Bush's tax cuts on wealthy Americans if he becomes the next president and the economy is in a recession, suggesting such an increase would further hurt the economy."

I'm learning. give me a few more years.

Posted by: snObama | September 8, 2008 12:14 PM | Report abuse

>> methree wrote: "Aspergirl, your deep-seeded resentment of Senator Obama leads to rampant speculation that your resentment is a direct result of your inability to land a man, assuming that's the gender you're after..."

(1) "deep-seeded" -- get an education at least above the high school level before attacking other people's political views as being valueless. Your lack of complex thinking is your real problem, along with an simple meme database. "deep-seeded" is how you plant asparagus.

(2) "rampant speculation that your resentment" -- don't you know by now that I'm neither interested nor insulted that the Obama trolls & dailyKos sockpuppets who are lurking forums have a fixation on me?

(3) "a direct result of your inability to land a man" -- LOL. What is so funny about your insults is that they reveal a lot about your own landscape. Having difficulty getting men isn't even in my frame of reference & I wouldn't have used that as an insult to someone else.

My idea of an insult in response to abusive attackers like yourself is to post dirt on Obama, because that's what you're here to do: attack & stop posters who are anti-Obama.

GEE WONDER WHY OBAMA LEFT THIS OFF HIS RESUME

Obama's Lost Annenberg Years Coming to Light
By Thomas Lifson

The cloak of media invisibility is slowly beginning to lift from Barack Obama's most important administrative leadership experience, helming an expensive educational reform effort in Chicago that failed to produce any measurable academic gains, according to the project's own final report, the Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC).

Add in the fact that former Weatherman and admitted terrorist William Ayers (whom Obama described in the Philadelphia debate as merely a "neighbor") was head of the operating arm of the CAC, working with Obama on distributing scores of millions of dollars to grantees in the wards of the city, and you have a topic that the Obama campaign wishes to avoid at all costs.

A compliant media has averted its eyes so far. A timeline of Obama's career from George Washington University omits it....

The four plus years (1995-1999) Barack Obama spent as founding chairman of the board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC) represent his track record as reformer, as someone who reached out in a public-private collaboration and had the audacity to believe his effort would make things better. At the time he became leader of this ambitious project to remake the public schools of Chicago, he was 33 years old and a third year associate at a small Chicago law firm, Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland.

This was a big test for him, his chance to cut his teeth on bringing hope and change to the mostly minority inner city school children trapped in Chicago schools. And he flopped big time, squandering lots of money and the time of many public employees in the process.

...

(more at: http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/obamas_lost_annenberg_years_co.html)

An update concerning the mysterious files for the CAC, for which Obama chaired the board for five years until early 2000. A liberal blogger revealed on Sept. 6 that it a CAC executive director blocked the National Review's Stanley Kurtz from accessing the CAC files to investigate the William Ayers-Barack Obama working relationship. See: http://globallabor.blogspot.com/2008/09/obamaayers-update-chicago-annenberg.html

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 8, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Yeah I know Anonymus...pretending real issues don't matter will solve them.

It will be very interesting to hear what McCain and Palin say on the issues and compare them to Obama and Biden.

I understand why Palin is unavaiable for interviews and solo campaign tours. She is getting a crash course on the economy (outside of Alaska) and on foreign affairs (outside of Alaska and the proximity to Russia).

It should be interesting to see how the hockey mom with a bachelors degree in Journalism from over 5 different colleges in 6 years responds to 3 weeks of tutoring.

Posted by: Obama-Junkie | September 8, 2008 12:06 PM | Report abuse

I have been following Obama since the primaries I been waiting to if he would make a mistake before now he didn't . Not choosing Hillary was a big mistake i'm a supporter but one thing you could say about HRC she's a fighter and she would have been in Obama's corner Biden is not a good Choice look the campaign as been taking a nose dive every since for the good of the campaign Joe need's to step aside and let THE DREAM TEAM TAKE US TO THE WHITEWHOUSE

CEDRICK

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 12:06 PM | Report abuse

"It would be nice if the forum was policed for those who violate the "rules governing commentaries and discussions" like bondjedi does in his verbally inappropriate language toward me."

Why are you singling me out? There are at least two dozen others here who regularly point out that you are a kook. Quit your crying. You're asking to be made a fool of, and getting what you want.

And "verbally inappropriate language"? You need a psychiatrist AND a proof-reader.

Posted by: bondjedi | September 8, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

aspergirl needs to learn that brevity is soul of wit

Posted by: nclwtk | September 8, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: scrivener | September 8, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Change the following states into wins for Obama; Virginia, North Carolina, Colorado, Hawaii. Change Alaska into a win for McCain.

I will give McCain 10 of the 19 remaining electoral college votes for a final prediction of Obama - 316, McCain - 222.

Posted by: Obama-Junkie | September 8, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

>>Damian in Pittsburgh wrote: "oh. and policing some of the comments of aspergirl wouldn't be a bad place to start"

Policing for comments that violate your political sentiments isn't the same as policing the comments that violate the rules of the forum.

Using cyberbullying, profanity and verbal abuse to punish posters of contrarian views is what violates the rules of this forum. Personally attacking other posters violates the rules, not just criticizing your Obama.

If you want a thought-police, Obama-supportive forum, go to DailyKos. You can get a lot of homogeneous groupthink there.

In response to your personally attacking post, I post the following further response:

THE OBAMA FAMILY ESTATES

Barack Obama lives in a Georgian mansion with 7 fireplaces that his slumlord, convicted corruption figure buddy, Tony Rezko helped him buy while helping a bagman who was laundering Iraqi oil-for-food program money

Obama spent $6 million to move his one-time acceptance speech to a specially built temple in a coliseum with fireworks.

Obama's brother George in Kenya is living in a hut on less than a dollar a month. His brother doesn't even have an inside toilet. Obama could practically triple his brother George's annual income by sending him a $20 bill once a year. Or he could buy him an outhouse for twice that much.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama/2590614/Barack-Obamas-lost-brother-found-in-Kenya.html

http://www.washtimes.com/news/2008/aug/26/the-inconvenient-obama/

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 11:54 AM | Report abuse

> Obama Junkie wrote;

Meanwhile foreign affairs are moving in very troubling ways like:

1) Russia and Venezuela are planning on naval exercises in the carribean (close to US waters).

2) Pakistan has a new president.

3) Iraq may not have provincial elections in about a month.

4) North Korea is re-starting their nuclear reactors.

Now is the time to understand how the candidates view what America's response should be to these developing issues.

Posted by: Obama-Junkie | September 8, 2008 11:49 AM


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Barack, Barack what should we do?

Uh....ah....uh..."PRESENT" ???

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 11:54 AM | Report abuse

The season of silliness is finally waning. Olbermann has been recognized for the clown he is and summarily booted from the prime spot. In his stead, the main Poofdah from the network - Gregory. Hair and make-up please.

Obama has entirely caved in his new politics and change mantra and resorted to sniveling attacks and hiring the oldest fossil in the Senate, who has never been right about a single foreign policy issue in decades.

McCain has actually stuck to his guns and hired a younger and better looking version of himself, to the roar of approval of the R base. It seems pandering is unnecessary when your opponent is so totally ill-equipped to rule.

the left wing media has exposed themselves as the lying jackels they are, with the National enquirer exhibiting the only taste for courage and truth.

the US Military has won the war in Iraq, although Libs still refuse this logic.

the Pelosi / Reid congress suffers the lowest ratings ever, rightly so since they can't even pass a budget after two years.

the economy and markets continue to exhibit signs of weakness, stemming back to about two years ago, coincidentally right about when the Lib congress took over and started doing.........nothing.

all is Right in the world again. McCain headed for landslide victory and Obama and the uber-Libs - humilation. Shrinks will have another field day with derangement syndrome from the angry left.

Posted by: kingofzouk | September 8, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Aspergirl, your deep-seeded resentment of Senator Obama leads to rampant speculation that your resentment is a direct result of your inability to land a man, assuming that's the gender you're after....Personally, I believe that you spew your venom at Senator Obama because he like all men you attempt to lure, wants noting to do with you. Your pathetic desperate attempts to snag yoursel a black man have failed time and time again, leaving you with nothing but white trash trailor park rejects to latch on to. Tsk, tsk, tsk.... Of course, if you were to land yourself a black man, given what we see from your posts, he would immediately go on the down low.

Be gone you shrill shrew.

Posted by: methree | September 8, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

YES! YES! YES! McCain/Palin ticket is leading in polling post the RNC convention on 3 out of 4 polls. This means the expectation is that McCain/Palin are winning in current presidential race and we know nothing of their policies and positions on the #1 issue facing Americans, the economy.

The one thing I have learned about the media in my many years is that the media likes to build celebrities up (Palin in this instance), so that it is more entertaining to see them tore down. Palin has not held one major media interview or held one debate. National news has been dominated currently by Hurricanes and Palin.

As the August 2008 economic numbers roll in, from unemployment to inflation, the economy is again taking priority in the headlines. Meanwhile foreign affairs are moving in very troubling ways like:

1) Russia and Venezuela are planning on naval exercises in the carribean (close to US waters).

2) Pakistan has a new president.

3) Iraq may not have provincial elections in about a month.

4) North Korea is re-starting their nuclear reactors.

Now is the time to understand how the candidates view what America's response should be to these developing issues.

Posted by: Obama-Junkie | September 8, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

From:
Head of State
http://tinyurl.com/55atsk


Monday, September 08, 2008
Fear and the Result of Our Decisions: Media, Palin and Iraq

I recall keenly the days of the run-up to the Iraq war. How many journalists--including those I knew and admired--drew back from criticism of obvious gaps and flaws in the logic leading to the conflict; who, despite stories of critical importance for the future of the nation hanging before them, left them hanging in the group-reinforced fear that they would be accused of a lack of patriotism if they were to report them.

And so they were left to be reported long after--in books looking back at the clear issues, landmark errors, and trail of missed opportunities that has led to the fatal outcomes we now see before us.

The issues were there at the time. To be reported.

They were not.

Today, they are again being cowed, by an equally powerful fear of unnecessary intimidation and restraint, the consequences of which stretch far beyond those that we have seen in Iraq.

At a time when we are at war, the economy in shambles, when today Fannie and Freddie Mac are, for the first time in their history, in effect being nationalized, we are being swept by emotion and fear--career fear--into ignoring a situation that would likely send us tumbling into the unknown.

For the short-term fear that each journalist feels, in being perceived as "unpatriotic" to vague, manifest threats regarding gender--they fail to report issues that have nothing to do with gender: the preparedness of a candidate for Vice President of the United States, running alongside an elderly and chronically ill Presidential candidate.

Instead--just as in the run-up to Iraq--each is making the easier choice--to join the risk-averse chorus of personality pieces, each, in the same diffusion of responsibility that had such a major role in leading us into the war in Iraq, taking the route that leads away from fact, regardless of gender.

As in Iraq, reporting fact--regardless of pressure for a mindless conformity and silence--represented actual patriotism, providing the nation with the information it needed to make a reliable and authentic decision, so reporting the facts here--regardless of pressure for an unthinking conformity represents a true balance, a true equality, a true lack of bias.

This is a time of difficult decisions. However, those decisions--your decisions--matter. We have seen this.

Report it. Don't be cowed.

Cite:
Head of State
http://tinyurl.com/55atsk

Posted by: Cara Prado | September 8, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

THE PALIN SELECTION AND THE DIMINUTION OF DEMOCRACY:
IS A SILENT COUP HAPPENING IN THE U.S.A?


Someone below asked the question, why did the GOP pick Sarah Palin?

• Could the Palin Phenomenon be a symptom of a seismic power grab that is transforming our government?

• Is the Palin selection part of a larger plan to seize control of the Executive Branch and make it beholden to another set of decision-makers -- unelected, entrenched, and in charge of the forces of power and control?

• Could this plan dovetail with reports from a Dutch newspaper this past week that the U.S. is planning to strike Iran's nuclear facilities?

• Could the fruition of the "Help America Vote Act," which led to the widespread use of electronic voting machines, the vast majority of which leave no voter-verified paper trail, also be part of this mosaic?

• Could John McCain's vacillations on the vice president issue and his eventual acquiescence to those who recommended Palin be part of a skillful campaign to influence and oversee his decision-making?

• Are we in the midst of a silent coup that is resulting in the loss of personal freedom via the extra-legal targeting of American citizens in an unconstitutional bypass of the judicial system, a denial of due process under the law?

• And is this power grab resulting in the emasculation of both Congress and the Judiciary, rendering those institutions little more than symbolic of power, when in fact power has been quietly usurped by unelected officials of entrenched institutions of power and control?

• Is anyone -- in the media, in Congress, in think tanks, in academia -- pondering these questions?

• If not, can we afford not to be asking these questions?

http://www.theocracywatch.org

Posted by: Thomas Paine | September 8, 2008 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Virginia voters should be concerned with Obama's executive experience. He was chair of the board of a non-profit, the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, which squandered $110 million in grants the non-profit received for local education reform in Chicago. The non-profit achieved nothing in terms of statistical meaningful results, except the most important one: help get Obama elected to Congress. Not surprisingly then, Obama and Biden have conned the mainstream media into focusing the coverage of their campaign on policy and policy differences - instead of experience and competence.

Posted by: Chris Baker | September 8, 2008 11:36 AM | Report abuse

WASHINGTON - The Republican National Convention has given John McCain and his party a significant boost, a USA TODAY/Gallup Poll taken over the weekend shows, as running mate Sarah Palin helps close an "enthusiasm gap" that has dogged the GOP all year. McCain leads Democrat Barack Obama by 50%-46% among registered voters, the Republican's biggest advantage since January and a turnaround from the USA TODAY poll taken just before...

high water mark for liberals is in the past now. Just how gullible did you think we really were?

Posted by: kingofzouk | September 8, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

oh. and policing some of the comments of aspergirl wouldn't be a bad place to start

Posted by: Damian in Pittsburgh | September 8, 2008 11:34 AM | Report abuse

>>theTruth wrote: "It's hard to focus on those goofs when there are so many wing-nut goofs like you to zero in on."

WHY DIDN'T OBAMA JUST PICK HILLARY? WAS IT THE
NARCISSISM OR A MOMMY PROBLEM? (MAYBE BOTH?)
A LOOK AT OBAMA'S MOMMA'S PERSONAL PROBLEMS

Obama's momma seems to have had at least some traits of a dependent personality disorder, which tends to be a complementary, coincident problem in families in which narcissism occurs.

In the Muslim world, there is a thing such as "temporary marriages". Men can even take "temporary" wives when they already have wives and families. This activity is legal under Sharia law, and the woman aren't respected but they aren't punished. The men usually pay them and the women are usually poor but pretty and have no prospects in life.

For an American woman to serve as a "temporary wife" and "second wife" to Third World Muslim men, who don't even give her money and support, but just uses the brief marriage without any traditional settlement for her, was the cultural equivalent of her being a valueless woman. I.e., in a cultural sense, Obama's momma served her Third World Muslim men as a pump-and-dump without value. The fact that a couple of these Muslim pump-and-dumps comprises Obama's mother's adult married life, is dysfunctional. Obama's mother was, in my opinion as a woman, a sexually desperate loser.

I think that Obama both lacks respect for the white "culture" of his childhood and longs for identity as a man, because of his mother's codependent and powerless relationships with her Muslim men. I think that Obama probably has mommy issues with older white women having power or influence over him, or dependence on him.

It's unsurprising Obama has sought to find a culture and identity in a harsh, black radical Church that cauterizes and rejects corrupt white culture. I think that his finding his identity in that Trinity Church is real, not pretense, just as I don't think it was extraordinarily difficult for him to take the step to repudiate the father figure that Rev. Wright has become in his life.

To be more specific, the narrative of Obama's father in his autobiographies is romanticized and fictionionalized. Obama's mother wasn't taken advantage of by some black man who left her with a child, but she was complicit in a degrading second-wife marriage and was a serial temporary wife to two Third World Muslim men, had kids and were dumped by them. Obama's father was her first such codependent relationship, her first "temporary [Muslim] husband". Instead of how Obama portrayed him, his father was an alcoholic, polygamous, womanizing Kenyan ethnically Arab Muslim (failed) communist who was already married when he got Obama's then-17-year-old mother pregnant. Obama's mother wasn't underprivileged and he wasn't disadvantaged but went to private schools when his grandmother took over his care after his mother sent him back from Indonesia when her second husband, his stepfather, was uninterested in him.

Barack Obama probably has middle-age white woman problems. His refusal to vet or even consider Hillary Clinton as his VP when it was his most obvious and possibly his only real path to winning the election, speaks of some kind self-defeating, self-sabotaging personal issue.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 8, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

hey chris,

I agree. As a loyal fix reader for the last several years, I've noticed the comment section (which used to be a forum for some really interesting discussion) has turned in to a shouting match of idiots.

Can someone start policing it?

Thanks

Posted by: Damian in Pittsburgh | September 8, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Moose stream media - meet Governor Palin.

Posted by: kingofzouk | September 8, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

>> metropolitan wrote: "someone really needs to police the comments section, it's nothing but trolls in here."

I post Obama dirt when one of those dailykos activists come in here and try to attack me personally, rather than respond to verbally abusive posts directly. But that doesn't seem to deter them. I think the cyberbullying is just pleasurable for some.

It would be nice if the forum was policed for those who violate the "rules governing commentaries and discussions" like bondjedi does in his verbally inappropriate language toward me.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 8, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

aspergoof says: "WHY THEN IS THERE NO FOCUS ON THE OBAMA'S MUSLIM GOOFS"

It's hard to focus on those goofs when there are so many wing-nut goofs like you to zero in on.

Posted by: TheTruth | September 8, 2008 11:27 AM | Report abuse

asper girl, Obama is not a Muslim. But if he was, so what. I don't care what religon Obama is, I care about the economy and about more jobs. All McCain and Palin talk about is drill, drill, drill, but how does that help create new jobs? McCain wants to give tax breaks to companies that ship our jobs to China. How does that policy encourage companies to stay in America? Then Palin supports rapist rights. Why should a woman who is raped not at least have a choice wheather she wants to kept the child or not? The victum didn't choose the guy who kept pounding her even when she said stop. You Republicans are good at politics. I will give you that. But you're bad at governing. McCain wants to give us 4 more years of the last 8 years. I agree that social issues are important, but the economy is priority number one.

Posted by: drhz | September 8, 2008 11:27 AM | Report abuse

"As of today, there are only 57 shopping days left in the presidential election."

Cool! That gives Obama time to visit one state per day.

Posted by: AK | September 8, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

"THE MEDIA INSISTS THAT IT'S RELEVANT TO JEER @ PALIN'S RELIGION
WHY THEN IS THERE NO FOCUS ON THE OBAMA'S MUSLIM GOOFS?
MORE OBAMA BLOOPERS IN WHCH HE TALKS LIKE A MUSLIM"

Show me the smoking gun memo you have that outlines this policy of "the media." You have mistaken the gotcha journalism of your wingnut hatesites with the journalism that the adults pay attention to.

Why don't you zero in on McCain's gaffes? By your reckoning, will a McCain administration insist on putting the Czech Republic and Slovakia? Go consult an atlas and a hate site, then get back to us.

Posted by: bondjedi | September 8, 2008 11:15 AM | Report abuse

someone really needs to police the comments section, it's nothing but trolls in here.
what a load of pointless anonymous lying.

Posted by: metropolitan | September 8, 2008 11:07 AM | Report abuse

bondjedi, in response to your earlier post to me, see the following:

THE MEDIA SAYS IT'S COOL TO PICK @ PALIN'S RELIGION
WHY THEN NO FOCUS ON THE OBAMA'S RELIGION GOOFS?
OBAMA BLOOPERS IN WHCH HE TALKS LIKE A MUSLIM

Obama is known for always speaking very carefully & precisely (it's his gift). Except when he's talking about his religion or when he's making "Muslim bloopers".

:: OBAMA: "MY MUSLIM FAITH" ::

Stephanopolous asks Obama about his accusations that the McCain campaign are going to accuse him of being Muslim. Obama goes into a 2 minute answer that includes the blooper "my Muslim faith".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUYHFlGb2Ng&feature=iv

At minute 1:34 Stephanopolous asks Obama about why he makes accusations that the McCain campaign is going to accuse him of being Muslim, when the McCain has condemned people making those accusations.

At minute 2:49 Obama says: "You're absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith."

George Stephanopolous steps in and corrects him to say "Christian faith" and then Obama agrees and says "Christian faith". But then what Obama was going to say doesn't make sense anymore because for what he was saying to make sense, he'd have to say, instead, "You're absolutely right that John McCain has not accused me of being Muslim."

Obama then becomes confused and has to spend the next 15 seconds recovering from that and make a point.

:: OBAMA THINKS THE U.S. HAS "57 STATES" ::

America has 50 states, while the Nation of Islam has 57 states. But you can watch Obama's statement that he's visited "57 states".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws

This is no joke, he really said this. Just Google "Obama 57 states" & you can see the news coverage after he said it. This was no slip, he pauses & thinks about it!

What American would forget that? And why would he pick the number "57" out of the air?

Everyone knows that we have 50 states. But there is a union that has 57 states in it: the union of Islamic states has 57 members. The Organisation of the Islamic Conference (OIC) is an international organization with a permanent delegation to the United Nations. It has 57 Islamic member states, from the Middle East, Africa, Central Asia, Caucasus, Balkan, Southeast Asia, South Asia and South America.

This is kind of an important slip coming from a candidate who is African-Arab by racial heritage, Muslim by birth who claims to now be Christian, who was raised abroad in an Islamic state (Indonesia) with a Muslim stepfather, who traveled to Pakistan using his Indonesian-citizenship passport at age 20 when he was supposed to be a U.S. citizen and Americans weren't supposed to go to Pakistan, who belonged for 20 years to a Church that publishes pro-Hamas material and whose leadership has close ties to the Nation of Islam, and who has been endorsed by Hamas.

:: TOO-LONG, BABBLE-ANSWER ON THE QUESTION WHAT IS THE MEANING OF JESUS IN HIS LIFE ::

You can also watch Barack Obama's too-long, wandering, lame response to the question: what is the meaning of Jesus in his life. He starts kind of okay with a trite answer, but then gets lost and stops making sense until he ends up claiming that Jesus makes him try new things like running for President

http://www.youtube.com/v/gHtAWPjzvyk&rel=0&color1=11645361&color2=13619151&fs=1

::::::::::

Just more in a long string of Obama slips when he's unscripted, in which his frame of reference seems to be that of an Islamist and/or Muslim.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 8, 2008 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Right on RK! You really gave me a good laugh. Thanks!

Posted by: daryl | September 8, 2008 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Obama does not connect with the rural voters of PA, OH and MI. He will have to do extremely well in the big cities of these states if he is to carry them. Based of past election results, do not see it happening, Can you say Vice President Palin. I almost feel sorry for the dems because try as they might, they just do not understand the average american.

Posted by: bhoomes | September 8, 2008 11:01 AM | Report abuse

There will be Democrats flinging themselves out of windows in November when they realize Obama has yet again failed to "seal the deal".

Posted by: Rahiq Syed | September 8, 2008 11:00 AM | Report abuse

Another near 50/50 split. Another two months of avoiding the water-cooler because it's guarded by slavering, rabid nut jobs waiting for someone to say anything remotely political.

God help us. And I don't mean Obama.

Posted by: RK | September 8, 2008 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Bush - Cheney - Rove
McCain - Palin - Schmidt

Does anyone really think we'll see CHANGE?

Posted by: Pete | September 8, 2008 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Cara,

10 Ways in Which Sarah Palin Is *Exactly* Like George W. Bush

1) True. And lives her life according to that belief.

2) True. Embryonic stem cell research does take place and embryonic stem cells have yet to offer ANY treatment advances. Adult stem cells have proven more promising.

3) Not true. She has taken no steps as Governor to see that Creationism is taught. She believes the topic should not be BANNED from discussion in the classroom if teachers and students want to debate it.

4) Manmade global warming is a THEORY. 31,000 scientists agree that it is not real. Ever hear of the SUN? Wonder why Mercury, Venus, Earth, and Mars have been warming? Did you know the earth has been cooling for the past ten years?

5) Decades of giving out condoms and letting girls get abortions without parental approval has worked so well.

6) True of most Governors. And Barack's experience would be what? She is the VP nominee.

7) Should a state trooper who has tasered his son, been caught drinking on duty in his patrol car and threatened to kill someone still be a cop?

8) Not true. Read the context and she does not want to take the job to attend funerals. She wants to have an active governing role as VP.

9) Not true. Giving an interview later this week. Has only been on the national scene for ten days. Not to mention, the MSM hasn't exactly been dealing with her in any reasonable manner. Compare US Magazine treatment of her vs. Obama. Just look at the cover. Do you believe anything the MSM says anymore?

10) When has Barack or Joe Biden EVER stood up to the Democrat Party? Palin and McCain at least have a demonstrated history of doing just that.


Posted by: Jeff | September 8, 2008 10:44 AM | Report abuse

Robb, Conservative values? Retardation, child molestation and no new taxes?

Posted by: Johna The Christian Nihilist | September 8, 2008 10:42 AM | Report abuse

The Republicans have won 7 of the last
10 races for the White House and Nov 4
2008 will make the score 11 to 3.

Go McCain-Palin

Posted by: ACE | September 8, 2008 10:41 AM | Report abuse

I could never vote for Barry Hussein. How can you trust anyone who renounces his true faith (Muslim) for the sake of votes from middle-America.

Posted by: Rahiq Syed | September 8, 2008 10:41 AM | Report abuse

>> bondjedi wrote: "More Asspergirl lies, not even close to the truth. Which wingnut hate site sis you rip this idea from?"

bondjedi, in response to your offensive & verbally abusive post to me, I post the following:

THE MEDIA INSISTS THAT IT'S RELEVANT TO JEER @ PALIN'S RELIGION
WHY THEN IS THERE NO FOCUS ON THE OBAMA'S MUSLIM GOOFS?
MORE OBAMA BLOOPERS IN WHCH HE TALKS LIKE A MUSLIM

Obama, who is known for always speaking very precisely (it's his gift) makes a lot of bloopers about being Muslim and/or has difficulty being coherent when talking about his religion.

:: OBAMA: "MY MUSLIM FAITH" ::

Stephanopolous asks Obama about his accusations that the McCain campaign are going to accuse him of being Muslim. Obama goes into a 3 minute answer that includes the blooper "my Muslim faith".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUYHFlGb2Ng&feature=iv

At minute 1:34 Stephanopolous asks Obama about why he makes accusations that the McCain campaign is going to accuse him of being Muslim, when the McCain has condemned people making those accusations.

At minute 2:49 Obama says: "You're absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith."

George Stephanopolous steps in and corrects him to say "Christian faith" and then Obama agrees and says "Christian faith". But then what Obama was going to say doesn't make sense anymore because for what he was saying to make sense, he'd have to say, instead, "You're absolutely right that John McCain has not accused me of being Muslim."

Obama then becomes confused and has to spend the next 15 seconds recovering from that and get back on making his point.

:: OBAMA THINKS THE U.S. HAS "57 STATES" ::

America has 50 states, while the Nation of Islam has 57 states. But you can watch Obama's statement that he's visited "57 states". This is no joke, he really said this. Just Google "Obama 57 states" & you can see the news coverage after he said it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws

What American would forget that? And why would he pick the number "57" out of the air? This was no quick slip, he pauses & thinks about it!

Everyone knows that the U.S. has 50 states. But there is a union that has 57 states in it: the union of Islamic states has 57 members. The Organisation of the Islamic Conference (OIC) is an international organization with a permanent delegation to the United Nations. It has 57 Islamic member states, from the Middle East, Africa, Central Asia, Caucasus, Balkan, Southeast Asia, South Asia and South America.

This is kind of an important slip coming from a candidate who is African-Arab by racial heritage, Muslim by birth who claims to now be Christian, who was raised abroad in an Islamic state (Indonesia) with a Muslim stepfather, who traveled to Pakistan using his Indonesian-citizenship passport at age 20 when he was supposed to be a U.S. citizen and Americans weren't supposed to go to Pakistan, who belonged for 20 years to a Church that publishes pro-Hamas material and whose leadership has close ties to the Nation of Islam, and who has been endorsed by Hamas.

:: TOO-LONG, BABBLING ANSWER ABOUT JESUS THAT HAS NO POINT ::

You can also watch Barack Obama's too-long, uncomfortable, increasingly lame response to the question about what Jesus means to him. He starts out okay, but then gets really lost and stops making sense until he ends up claiming that Jesus makes him try new things like running for President

http://www.youtube.com/v/gHtAWPjzvyk&rel=0&color1=11645361&color2=13619151&fs=1

::::::::::

Just more in a long string of Obama slips when he's unscripted, in which his frame of reference seems to be that of an Islamist and/or Muslim.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 8, 2008 10:40 AM | Report abuse

Obama wins Pennsylvania, Michigan, Ohio and possibly Colorado. McCain takes Florida and possibly Indiana. Obama wins by three to four percentage points.

Can someone explain why McCain never cracks more than 43-44 percent on any national poll? Any time the race tightens it is because Obama dips slightly in the polls, not because McCain jumps up significantly.

I think he has hit his unmoveable ceiling of 44 percent and despite the presence of Sarah Palin on the ticket, McCain will never move the sticks during these last few weeks. If anything, a paltry showing on the first debate will seal McCain's second banana fate.

Posted by: dee | September 8, 2008 10:36 AM | Report abuse

>> Anonymous wrote: "Why didn't he just pick Hillary? if he did this would be over, now i'm beginning to believe it's lost."

(1) he's a narcissist & won't share the stage with another "historic" election star -- as we know the stage & his place on it is his top priority

(2) he & his campaign & the culture of his base are very, very sexist, as the gleeful woman-bashing misogyny unloaded on Clinton earlier this year attests

(3) he's green, callow & naive; was totally outmaneuvered suckered into believing McCain was going to pick an old white man with formidable resume on paper as a VP so he thought he could make it work w/Biden

(4) the media & in particular the left-wing bloggers have come to dominate the political discourse of the dems more and more; they are in the dem base; the stream of consciousness & memes of the political discourse of the vocal wing of the dem base is now so ultra-left wing & liberal & in an out-of-touch echo chamber that they talk to each other day in & day out, totally unaware of how out of touch & adrift from reality they get; the left-wing & blogosphere decided long ago that the Clintons are too moderate & want to get rid of them; they promise to unseat Clinton in the next NY senate race like they did Liebermann; they would like to drive all moderate dems out of office to drive the party farther right

(5) the democratic party is generally younger, more naive & less affluent demographically than the republicans; they are therefore less wise & more compulsively stupid; the general elections are classic cases of the young & dumb rushing in to batter the old & battle-wise, & getting outwitted time after time; it was a no-brainer that Obama wouldn't win without Clinton (his numbers were gently sinking all Summer even before McCain added Palin) but try explaining the obvious to a bunch of young & dumb zealots who are convinced you are old & evil.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 8, 2008 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Olbermann and Mathews fired. couldn't happen to bigger losers.

See, the market does work.

Posted by: kingofzouk | September 8, 2008 10:33 AM | Report abuse

ATTENTION: All you Clinton supporters planning to vote for McCain and hoping to get Clinton in the Whitehouse in 2012. IT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN. You know why?? Well, if McCain/Palin wins in November, Palin will use the next 4 years to LEARN everything about the job of president. Guess what? She'll become more qualified and versed than former first lady and senator Hillary Clinton and Palin will win in 2012 when she runs!! You know another reason why Clinton won't win in 2012? Obama supporters won't forget in 2012 what you Hillary supporters did to put McCain in the Whitehouse in 2008 and guess what? We'll stay home or vote for the other Democratic candidate in 2012! So, vote against your morals, values and issues out of spite and see if it won't come back to bite you!

Posted by: Terri | September 8, 2008 10:32 AM | Report abuse


Well, here is one foreign voter for Obama in Virginia. Can it go blue? Not clear. I do hear from folks at home, that while evangelicals are massing behind Palin, the remains of the moderate Republicans are quietly switching to Obama (creationism is the killer issue, not abortion.)

With help from Strickland, Ohio is a strong possibility. Pennsylvania and Michigan need attention.

One of the curious things will be how Palin plays out in Florida. It seems that McCain was likely to pick up a lot of moderate to conservative Jewish retirees who weren't so sure about Obama and Israel. But Palin is a wild card. The views of her church (which I suspect we will hear more about) may push those folks back into the Democratic fold and bring Florida into play (it has looked red).

The economy, the economy, the economy. As it gets closer to election day, the bad economy should work in Obama's favor.

Will there be any "foreign policy" surprises to favor McCain?

Why are the Democrats paying so much attention to Montana? I suspect they sense they have a real chance there.

No fat people singing (not me anyway), so it's not over yet!

Posted by: PatrickInBeijing | September 8, 2008 10:29 AM | Report abuse

"The Obama campaign started out with a "50 state strategy". They pulled out of most of the 50 states before the dem convention but said they would resume after. The McCain campaign at the time said that the "50 state strategy" was a bust."

More Asspergirl lies, not even close to the truth. Which wingnut hate site sis you rip this idea from?

Posted by: bondjedi | September 8, 2008 10:26 AM | Report abuse

fianlly,
America wakes up and sees Obama for what he is.
An empty suit that happens to speak eloquently.
Conservative values are alive and well.
GOD BLESS AMERICA

Posted by: robb | September 8, 2008 10:26 AM | Report abuse

"It looks like we've blown another General Election for President. We thank Howard Dean and Obama for this.

Why didn't he just pick Hillary? if he did this would be over, now I'm beginning to believe it's lost."

No worries. Once all of the stuff about Palin comes out people will come back to their senses. The bombshell is the affair that she had with her husbands business partner. The other item to come out will be that Sarah's baby is really her daughters. And then of course there is all the usually ethic questions of using public office for personal gains. Don't worry about a thing we are on it. ;)

Posted by: Ace | September 8, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

Picture it, in front of the Obama residence in Chicago. People in white hoods cheering as one white-robed figure sets a cross on fire. This is what Dianne72 sees in her dreams at night.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

Picture it, Trinity Church 2006. Michelle Shiniqua Obama is speaking from the pulpit. Her prominent nostrils are flared, brow furrowed, and a scowl across her face. With all the inner-ghetto she can muster, Michelle Shaniqua is ranting against "whitey" and how they keep "raising the bar". All the while punching the air with a fist-bump. This my friends is what we will see in October when they release her "whitey-gate" tapes on YouTube

Posted by: Dianne72 | September 8, 2008 10:21 AM | Report abuse

Fix, address the camera with your back turned to it, it's like you're staring into our souls.

Posted by: Turnfixyturn | September 8, 2008 10:21 AM | Report abuse

Great Points Bob Miller

Can someone please outline Obama's qualifications to be POTUS?

Please do so with out attacking the GOP

Please list full resume

Posted by: Undecided In 2008 | September 8, 2008 10:18 AM | Report abuse

I think we need to have a generational war. In my Church I separate the under 30 crowd from the older members. I preach to the young and tell them how much the older generations have failed them in their leadership and how everyone born owes 30K in taxes because the retards in Washington spend 600 billion a year on failed wars and intimidation tactics. This angers them greatly. We have the under 30's dress in combat fatigues, arm them with water balloons and bottles of katsup and mustard and then they hide out in the parking lots and closets of the Church. When the elderly arrive at the service, the under 30's surprise them buy pegging them with watter filled balloons, dyes and condiments. All the while I stand screaming "that's the target"! Needless to say that this fosters much hostility among the congregation. It is a way for me to teach older members that they will pay for there past leadership decisions and failures.

In my opinion this is what Obama needs to do. He needs to bring a couple of water balloons with him to the 9/11 anniversary this week. McCain needs to understand that he is an old dolt with no future. That he has destroyed America with his support of a retarded President on a spending binge. The future is for the youth and must be decided by the youth not by some old stiff fool. Rise up my children! God bless us all!

Posted by: Johna The Christian Nihilist | September 8, 2008 10:17 AM | Report abuse

It looks like we've blown another General Election for President. We thank Howard Dean and Obama for this.

Why didn't he just pick Hillary? if he did this would be over, now i'm beginning to believe it's lost.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 10:08 AM | Report abuse

Well, I would like to see someone post information regarding the following:

Obams's Occidental College records
Obama's Columbia College records
Obama's Columbia Thesis paper
Obama's Harvard College records
Obama's Letters of recommendation to
each of these colleges.
Obama's Selective Service Registration
Obama's Medical records
Obama's Illinois State Senate records
A certified copy of Obama’s Original Birth Certificate
Obama's embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth
Any Obama Harvard Law Review articles that were published (I have found one.)
Obma's University of Chicago scholarly articles or publications.

Mr. Obama is being considered for the highest job in America, and he should provide the above as if he would be interviewing for that position in Corporate American.

So far we have only been allowed to see the Obama that he wants America to see, the media darling of the MSM and the DNC.

I would like to see people see the development of the man, and I would like to know what religion he was before he 'became christian'. Inquiring middle class whats to know.

Posted by: Bob Miller | September 8, 2008 10:07 AM | Report abuse

>>Greg in LA wrote: "Actually, Pennsylvania looks safe for Obama and I would guess that McCain will win Florida and Obama will win Michigan safely as well. Ohio is as important as ever, but the new battleground is in Virginia, New Mexico, Nevada, Iowa and Colorado. Not quite the same old states."

"battleground" is the right word for Northern Virginia. People are having spasms. Fighting at work with each other, etc.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 8, 2008 10:06 AM | Report abuse

You rightly noted McCain is now ahead of Obama in the polls, this is all due to the GOP's New super star Sarah Palin. She should be on top the ticket all ready. Here are my favorite Sarah Palin info sites.

This site has everything about her scandals, Levi the Boy Friend, what really happen with ebay plane. http://www.hotpres.com

This site has the inside scoop about the Palin Dui Secret, http://www.duihelpguide.com Why hasnt the news covered this?

This site has background info on sarah Palin Bio, Pics, Videos, Alot of Polls like how many people actually think that she is attractive? http://www.theveep.com

Despite all of this, and her lack of experiance she would probably make a much better president then McCain., Because like Obama she hasnt been corrupted by washington yet. We should probably reverse the ticket Palin/McCain.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 10:05 AM | Report abuse

Cara Prado:

McCain has you guys scrambling, and you are falling right into the trap like your liberal friends in the MSM! Keep talking about Sarah Palin. Keep making the futile attempt to convince people why 3 years US Senator is enough experience to be President, while 2 years Governor is not enough experience to be Vice-President.

Meanwhile, voters will just keep wondering how big the gap must be between Obama and McCain if you have to keep making efforts to compare Obama to Palin, and spend so much time trying to tear her down.

Oh, and in case you missed it: George Bush isn't running for President. Figured the factually-challenged such as yourself might need to be alerted to that fact.

Posted by: dbw | September 8, 2008 9:54 AM | Report abuse

Dear nclwtk:

Many thanks for a hearty Monday morning chuckle! You said McCain lacks any substance, while Obama is 'real'.

Even DNC strategists wouldn't dare try spinning that message to voters who know better. Perhaps you missed the story about McCain being tortured in a Hanoi prison cell for 5 years while Joe Biden took 5 deferrments and refused to serve.

I'm not even all that crazy about McCain, but saying he lacks substance is the last thing you guys should be trying to argue when your candidate is having to count his time writing memoirs as 'experience'....

Posted by: dbw | September 8, 2008 9:48 AM | Report abuse

How can we take seriously the pocket book promises of a guy that doesn't even favor doing what's necessary to have equal pay for equal work? McCain is trying to send us out on some wild goose chase.

Posted by: 2mature2bHornswoggled | September 8, 2008 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Greg in LA: good points, all. Virginia will go for Obama this year. The northern end of the state has been skewing heavily in his favor; with Warner on the ballot, expect to see real Democratic intensity in the state this year. It may be close (i.e., within a percentage point) but VA should be blue this year.

Posted by: DB | September 8, 2008 9:46 AM | Report abuse

First of all you need to correct how this map displays. Somebody who skipped the text above and just looked at the map (as of this morning) would not understand it is from a month ago, and that a new map will arrive later today. The simple solution is a title on the map itself with the date you did it. It could say: "That was Then..." and then the date, or something like that. Untitled, it looks current.

Looking at the map you have here from a while ago, I assume that in the update Alaska will be red (Republican), all 3 votes worth. On the other hand, I have never understood why Hawaii was listed as undecided. Can this be correct? If so, I would like more explanation. If not, let's fix that and make it blue, all 4 votes of it. Then the analysis can proceed with the Lower 48.

Posted by: Fairfax Voter | September 8, 2008 9:46 AM | Report abuse

Interesting topic, Chris.
The truth will probably be somewhere between the D and R positions. There will be more states in play than McCain would like and fewer than Obama would like; most of the red states will still be red (though probably with far narrower margins), while the same may happen with a couple of blue states.
Among the undecideds, I think Ohio is likely to be blue this time around (seems to me the Ohio R's never really regained their mojo after the '06 blowout) and Pennsylvania will stay blue.
My bet?
Obama wins by about four percentage points.

Posted by: DB | September 8, 2008 9:44 AM | Report abuse

Actually, Pennsylvania looks safe for Obama and I would guess that McCain will win Florida and Obama will win Michigan safely as well. Ohio is as important as ever, but the new battleground is in Virginia, New Mexico, Nevada, Iowa and Colorado. Not quite the same old states.

Posted by: Greg in LA | September 8, 2008 9:42 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: DW Ross | September 8, 2008 9:42 AM | Report abuse

I'm an animal lover. I volunteer for non-profit organizations to help animals. I am a moderate conservative and I support John McCain and Sarah Palin;) McCain Nation!

Posted by: LV | September 8, 2008 9:39 AM | Report abuse

LOL - I love the term sock puppets. It reminds me of Rose on the Golden Girls (oops giving away my age).

Anyway, it is true that we have the freedom to battle it on on the blogs; but the true test will be in the voting booth on November 4th. Regardless of the Palin trump card, I think voters know basically who they will vote for and now the idea is to do it. Make sure you vote, whether in person or by mail in ballot.

Once again, we have a close race on our hands showing the divisiveness in the country. Personally, I believe GOP has had its chance for the past eight years and it is time for a turnover because regardless of the 'maverick' and 'change' slogans, McCain will be more of the same and perhaps worse with the right wing Palin.

Posted by: Sandra S | September 8, 2008 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Rove and Scmidt are attempting to brand our mainstream media, our favorite pundits and writers as “Piranhas!” which only means one thing The Republicans are trying to steal the fish pet Voters or the Nature Lover's Vote? Or is this a Rove, Schmit and Davis Freudian Slip – They chose Piranhas - deep down they see themselves as Piranhas?

Democrats are courting all Republicans and Independents Goldfish, Dolphin and Killer Whale fans!

Trained Goldfish Performs Amazing Tricks!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buQKZOaB6cY

Dolphin play bubble rings.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMCf7SNUb-Q

Killer Whale and Trainer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpZFfzDg5nQ

Change we can believe in.

Vote Obama/Biden '08

Posted by: Eagle Ch’áak’ Ora | September 8, 2008 9:23 AM | Report abuse

This is a great topic for the Fix. It would be great if a discussion can take place without the dailykos suckpuppets being abusive & harassing in violation of the rules linked above.

"Obama is still advertising in places like North Carolina, Virginia and Montana -- traditional Republican strongholds at the presidential level -- but both campaigns seem to be focusing more and more of their time on a handful of states like Pennsylvania, Michigan, Ohio and Florida where the last two presidential elections have been decided."

The Obama campaign started out with a "50 state strategy". They pulled out of most of the 50 states before the dem convention but said they would resume after. The McCain campaign at the time said that the "50 state strategy" was a bust.

It looks as if, now, the 50-state strategy has gone down to some possible-battleground-shift states with focus on the same old swing states as usual.

All of that money, hundreds of millions, isn't it? Spent on the 50-state strategy?

It will, obviously, be very useful for the down-ticket democrats & the state parties to have the databases & other party-building resources the local state networks have created.

But on the McCain plus side, his ability to mobilize his base will be a huge boon to his efforts to fight off encroachment of the dems into the red states.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 8, 2008 9:23 AM | Report abuse

Articles like this should remind us all how ridiculous the electoral college system has become. The same handful of states decide the election.

I've lived in 4 different states since being old enough to vote. Not once--not once--has that vote counted for the candidate I'd voted for.

Posted by: ehtel08 | September 8, 2008 9:20 AM | Report abuse

Only time will tell whether Sarah Palin has a lasting energizing efect on anyone. Personally I think she has really energized the Democratic base more. McCain remains a candidate hiding behind slurs and snickers and lacks any substance. Obama has to make the stake real to people, as they are real, and they should overwhelm people prejudices and closet racism. Fear may sell but it doesnt govern.

ARe you better off than you were four years ago let alone eight years ago? How badly are your futures dimming?

Posted by: nclwtk | September 8, 2008 9:15 AM | Report abuse

McCain = death to the middle-class

Posted by: Hilary Smith | September 8, 2008 9:14 AM | Report abuse

Ohio! Ohio! Ohio!

Obama will be blown out or it will come down to Ohio.

Posted by: Seed of Change | September 8, 2008 9:13 AM | Report abuse

Don't bother making any predictions at this stage of the game. The debates and world events will shape the outcome. People will vote security and their pocketbook in the end.

When push comes to shove I think McCain will be a safer bet then the untested Obama.

Posted by: Capt Howard | September 8, 2008 9:09 AM | Report abuse

From:
Head of State
http://tinyurl.com/5mbefu

Sunday, September 07, 2008

"Actual Responsibilities": If You Can't Manage a Hockey Rink, Can You Manage Economic Policy and National Security?

From the Wall Street Journal:

Palin's Hockey Rink Leads
To Legal Trouble in Town She Led >
By MICHAEL M. PHILLIPS
September 6, 2008; Page A5

WASILLA, Alaska -- The biggest project that Sarah Palin undertook as mayor of this small town was an indoor sports complex, where locals played hockey, soccer, and basketball, especially during the long, dark Alaskan winters.

The only catch was that the city began building roads and installing utilities for the project before it had unchallenged title to the land. The misstep led to years of litigation and at least $1.3 million in extra costs for a small municipality with a small budget. What was to be Ms. Palin's legacy has turned into a financial mess that continues to plague Wasilla.

"It's too bad that the city of Wasilla didn't do their homework and secure the land before they began construction," said Kathy Wells, a longtime activist here. "She was not your ceremonial mayor; she was in charge of running the city. So it was her job to make sure things were done correctly."

Ms. Palin, now Alaska's governor and Republican Sen. John McCain's running mate, has pointed to her two terms as Wasilla's mayor, from 1996 to 2002, as evidence that she has enough executive experience to take on the presidency, should the need arise -- more than Democratic Sen. Barack Obama, who touts his own background as a community organizer in Chicago.

"I guess a small-town mayor is sort of like a community organizer, except that you have actual responsibilities," Ms. Palin said Wednesday in her acceptance speech at the Republican convention.

Litigation resulting from the dispute over Ms. Palin's sports-complex project is still in the courts, with the land's former owner seeking hundreds of thousands of additional dollars from the city.

Palin likes to say "Good judgment can make the difference between avoiding a crisis and managing a catastrophe."

Indeed.

Cite:
Head of State
http://tinyurl.com/5mbefu

Posted by: Cara Prado | September 8, 2008 9:07 AM | Report abuse

This was back in August before the conventions. I think there will likely be a shake up. Most notably. Alaska will not be undecided! Also, I think Ohio is less likely to go Democratic. I think McCain has a great shot there and he's leading int he polls.

Posted by: Jennifer Sypal | September 8, 2008 9:07 AM | Report abuse


From:
Head of State
http://tinyurl.com/65qxee

Sunday, September 07, 2008

10 Ways in Which Sarah Palin Is *Exactly* Like George W. Bush

1) Like Bush, she is completely against a woman's right to choose (in fact, she exceeds Bush in that she is against a woman's right to choose even in cases of rape or incest;

2) Like Bush, she opposes stem cell research to prevent fatal diseases in men, women and children;

3) Like Bush, supports the teaching of Creationism alongside Evolution in public schools;

4) Like Bush, does not believe that Global Warming is man made;

5) Like Bush, has supported abstinence-only sex education methods that have proven ineffective;

6) Like Bush, has virtually no foreign policy experience prior to running for national office--(in Palin's case, despite a 72-year old, chronically ill running mate)

7) Like Bush, has engaged in conduct that has resulted in current government investigation of her actions;

8) Like Bush, has made statements which indicate lack of knowledge of basic elements of the office they are running for (Palin, July 2008: "What exactly does the Vice President do everyday?");

9) Like Bush, has been sequestered to prevent her being asked questions that she has not yet been prepared to answer;

10) Like Bush, talks like a reformer--yet in her actions (i.e., relying on lobbying, supporting the Bridge to Nowhere before she was against it) acts in the most typical, all-too-familiar fashion.


H/T: On The Issues

Cite:
Head of State
http://tinyurl.com/65qxee

Posted by: Cara Prado | September 8, 2008 8:57 AM | Report abuse

So Im wondering What My Girl Sarah has been up to., McCain needs to let the Media Get access to his VP candidate. Thats lame to hide your VP candidate away from the Media. The Only Place you can find Info about Palin is on the Web, Here is some sites Ive been able to find.

This site has everything about her scandals, Levi the Boy Friend, what really happen with ebay plane. http://www.hotpres.com

This site has the inside scoop about the Palin Dui Secret, http://www.duihelpguide.com Why hasnt the news covered this?

This site has background info on sarah Palin Bio, Pics, Videos, Alot of Polls like how many people actually think that she is attractive? http://www.theveep.com

Despite all of this, and her lack of experiance she would probably make a much better president then McCain., Because like Obama she hasnt been corrupted by washington yet. We should probably reverse the ticket Palin/McCain.

Posted by: Peter | September 8, 2008 8:56 AM | Report abuse

So, it seems Obama is winning even in worst case scenario, that means even if 14 undecided goes to McCain, that will be 278 obama and 260 McCain. Thanks

Posted by: SK | September 8, 2008 8:51 AM | Report abuse

Why was Hawaii ever considered other/undecided? Hasn't that state been solidly Obama from the get-go?

Posted by: Jay | September 8, 2008 8:38 AM | Report abuse

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