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Florida Primary: Winners and Losers

Florida voters made their primary picks yesterday. The day brought few surprises but -- as always -- a handful of winners and losers. (For complete results from Florida, click here.)

WINNERS

Sen. Bill Nelson (D): Rep. Katherine Harris' victory in the Republican Senate primary virtually ensures a second term for Nelson. Harris took nearly 50 percent of the vote against three lesser-known challengers but don't be fooled. Harris has a loyal base of Republican supporters but will struggle to recruit independents and Democrats to her cause. For voters who were skeptical about Harris at the start, her erratic campaign did little to win them over. Nelson entered the 2006 election cycle as one of Republicans biggest targets. With two months left before the midterms, he is as safe as any incumbent can be in a swing state like Florida.

Gov. Jeb Bush (R): State Attorney General Charlie Crist (R) cast himself as the logical successor to Bush during the primary campaign and repeatedly called the outgoing executive "the greatest governor in America." Crist enters the general election and if Republicans are able to hold the governorship it will be another feather in Bush's cap. Don't be surprised to hear Jeb's name pop up in vice presidential chatter in 2008.

Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee: The House Democratic campaign committee got their preferred candidates in the 8th and 13th districts where Charlie Stuart and Christine Jennings, respectively, won their party's nomination. Neither seat is a top tier takeover chance for Democrats but the party now has two credible and decently-funded candidates in seats that could be swept up in a national wave.

Florida Elections Web site: Regularly updated and easy to navigate, this site made The Fix's night. Having spent many a primary night searching for results on less-than-stellar election sites, Florida's slick site made a world of difference.

LOSERS

The Sugar Industry: Sugar interests dumped $4 million into two 527 groups that spent the final weeks of the campaign attacking gubernatorial candidate Jim Davis for his record in the state legislature and in Congress. That money nearly delivered a victory to state Sen. Rod Smith who came back from his political deathbed to come up just six percentage points short. The heavy sugar spending has left the Davis campaign apopletic and the Congressman couldn't resist a jab at the industry during his victory speech; "With all the talk of sugar in the news," Davis said, "Let me say, 'How sweet it is.'"

Tom Gallagher: It's not just that Gallagher lost to Crist by more than 30 points in the governor's race yesterday. It's the slash and burn campaign he ran, attempting (unsuccessfully) to label Crist as a liberal. It's the tawdry revelations about his personal life that became public in the course of the campaign. And, it's the fact this race marked the fourth time Gallagher has run for governor of Florida and lost (He also ran in 1982, 1986 and 1994.) Gallagher's political career is over.

By Chris Cillizza  |  September 6, 2006; 9:37 AM ET
 
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Comments

It appears with the Harris primary win that Nelson will be cruising to victory. As a conservative Republican, I can't figure out for the life of me why Collins, Monroe and McBride didn't talk the thing over and 2 of them drop out of the primary and endorse the other. It appeared that McBride, the White House pick, would have made the best nominee. Had Collins and Monroe dropped out and endorsed him, maybe he could have defeated Harris. Oh well, that wasn't to be. On the bright side of that race, political pundits and talk show hosts will have constant and reliable jokes until election day. On election day, just imagine how Harris may handle defeat! Think of what she may say? Boy, won't those make for good headlines!

Well, it looks like Crist will cruise to victory against Davis in the governor's contest. Wonder who he chooses for Lt. Governor? Either way, Crist is hands down the next gov. of Florida.

Two things that weren't mentioned above is Vern Buchanan won the crowded primary for Harris congressional seat. If he were to win, he'd be one of congress' richest members. This means, he will also be one of Florida's fastest rising Republican stars. The other is State senate majority leader, Tom Lee, winning the primary for Chief Financial Officer. People in Florida seem to love him and I think he wins the general hands down. He actually had Jeb's endorsement, along with a slew of others, before the primary was half way in. Lee and Buchanan were both big winners in this primary.

Posted by: reason | September 7, 2006 1:40 PM | Report abuse

She's baaaaaaaaack. Does Tina write the same post over and over again, or am I imagining it?

Posted by: drindl | September 6, 2006 5:59 PM | Report abuse

'Wow do you ignore what other people write. Phenomenal. Just amazing. I tip my hat to you KOZ, you are a true neocon.'

That's why I don't bother, Will. As I have said he does not listen, he cannot learn. He's just hear to make a cheap nuisance of himself and prevent anyone from talking about anything sensible, just a foul virus designed to spread the disease of his rabid delusions and fantasies.

My apologies for the post earlier where I didn't credit Olberman--it was during the tech screw-up here and it got mangled, clipped and out of order.

Posted by: drindl | September 6, 2006 5:56 PM | Report abuse

We seem to agree more than disagree. I am happy you took the time to respond responsibly. how come there are so few others?

I must take issue with departing from Iraq. I readily admit it is messy but we have little exposure there now. how would leaving advance our cause? Remember that Iraq and Afganistan surround Iran. a little advance planning perhaps?

It seems perception of weakness may be the only thing left to fight these fools with. We stomp on them and they eventually give up. retreating is exactly the opposite of what is needed, despite the cost, the reward is worth it. At some point in the future, all the rabid killers will be old or dead. that is what war accomplishes and there is a very long history of this effect. sometimes it takes longer than expected, but Bush did warn us that it would not be easy or short. most wars are won by attrition and not strategy or tactics. We must be the ones left standing in the end.

see how much ground you can cover when Drindl is not chiming in with her tin-foil hat plebianism?

It is a pleasure sir. finally a worthy adversary.

Posted by: kingofzouk | September 6, 2006 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Wow do you ignore what other people write. Phenomenal. Just amazing. I tip my hat to you KOZ, you are a true neocon.

Posted by: Will | September 6, 2006 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Condi in 2008, either as president or VP. And I found this letter from a woman in Florida, and she supports Condi as well.
Someone else is thinking like I do.


printed in DC/ September 1, 2006


Condi in 2008
Regarding (name of a writer from this newspaper in DC) string of Op-Ed columns this month, I agree that
the 2008 ticket could have interesting faces for president and vice president
("Looking at Republicans and 2008," Aug. 1; "Picking a veep," Aug. 15; "Vice
presidential possibilities," Tuesday). The heavy-hitter issue could include
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice because she is at 20 percent in numerous
national polls (equal to Sen. John McCain of Arizona and former New York Mayor
Rudolph W. Giuliani).
Also, Mr. **** asked what would happen with the black vote if she
were selected as vice president. In my opinion, the party of Lincoln would be
seen as inclusive and welcoming to all voters. If Michael S. Steele in Maryland,
J. Kenneth Blackwell in Ohio or Lynn Swann in Pennsylvania are able to win
their races in 2006, it will show strong support for black leadership in the
Republican Party. The next step would be to put Miss Rice on the 2008 ticket,
either as president or vice president.
I'd like to see a real balanced ticket for the Republicans in 2008, which
would include a woman raised in Alabama who became a professor and provost of
a college in California and an international diplomat. Then no matter who the male candidate is, the ticket would have a strong woman on foreign policy and
international issues in the style of former British Prime Minister Margaret
Thatcher to help lead our nation into the future.

DEBBIE ****
Pompano Beach, Fla.

Posted by: Tina | September 6, 2006 5:26 PM | Report abuse

News flash - al queda number 2 caught in Iraq (a few times I think). I wonder how he got all the way over there from his cave in Pakistan?

If you are not afraid of a nuclear armed Iran then I suppose your fear mechanism is malfuntioning.

things are going well in Afganistan (economy, free press, building,voting, etc.) why would we expend resources there. and we have NATO support.

What is the disaster you are referring to? How is it we are getting closer and closer. you seem to keep saying things you may have heard from somewhere but do not provide any basis other than your opinion which I have point-by-point deconstructed today.

finally you have admitted what most Dems won't - that you are barren of ideas and can only criticize and cite worn-out old lies.

My ideas since you asked, and these may not coincide with Administration or Military policy who both certainly have a much better persepctive than I:

1. continue training and equipping Iraqi forces
2. put the screws to Syria in every way possible, ignore the internationsl consequences, support any action Israel takes, Isolate Iran
3. cut off Irans gas supply
4. pour major funding into counter-government orgs inside Iran. I suspect their people would rather move on.
5. raise US expenditures on military products including missile shields, intelligence, etc.
6. continue with Rummy's reorg of military stressing faster, more mobile forces, especially SEALS, SF, Delta, etc.

those are just off the cuff. a little research could yeild more and better ideas. but I have been begging for just such a list from you pantywaists for weeks now and so far not one. Is it too hard for you to make up your mind or come up with original thoughts? some of you seem genuinley intelligent, concerned, albeit misguided. are you open to new ideas or is your mind closed? a shame really. blinded by partisan hate.

Posted by: kingofzouk | September 6, 2006 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Don't be retarded. I don't think for one second it's over when we get Osama. So you think we don't need to get him at all? THink about these things before you post.

Posted by: Will | September 6, 2006 5:21 PM | Report abuse

You go right ahead thinking Osama is no danger. Bush said the exact same thing when Berger warned him about Al Qaida when Bush took over.

Posted by: Will | September 6, 2006 5:17 PM | Report abuse

You really think free markets justifies Opium?

You really think there's no distiction between Al Qaida in say indonesia and Iraqi terrorists? We're not in the business of making more terrorists. And yet we do every day we're in Iraq.

Step up the campaign in Afghanistan.
Leave iraq, redeploy half the troops to afghanistan. Let the reserves stand down and get a needed break.
Fully fund body armor for the troop.
create smaller, more flexible more powerful special forces units to attack cell, camps the world over.
Reduce dependence on foreign oil.
Step up recruitment from colleges of people who speak urdu, farsi and arabic. Pay their way to learn it if necessary.

That's 6 things more than 'stay the course' or 'what can we do about herion, it's the free market'.

Posted by: Will | September 6, 2006 5:16 PM | Report abuse

'Our allies and you spineless lefties' Alright say that to my face.

"n case you forgot, we are at war with a group who has sworn to kill us all. why don't you believe them?"

you know, I could say that exact same thing to you since we seem to be ignoring them by spending all our time in Iraq.

You neocons just wanna look tough and scream and not act like the scared kids you are but you have no solutions but stay the course even as we get closer and closer to disaster. You treat afghanistan as an afterthought, and the really dangerous people (who are more likely to be in syria, jordanm or saudi arabia) get a free pass so you can drop bombs. This war isn't gonna be won in the air or sea or with tanks. This isn't wwII but that seems to be the only idea you have. You ask me what my plans are, I told you. Afghanistan is the key. But what are yours? Stay the course?

Venezuela?!? Now you're just shouting bogeymen to distract from you failed policies and ideology. 67% of AMerica and the rest of the first world must be wrong because you're right, eh?

Posted by: Will | September 6, 2006 5:09 PM | Report abuse

And the danger of some old, kidney failing figurehead who hasn't been seen or heard from in years is.....

Are you saying that the minute he is dead we can pack up and go home. think about what you post. It really makes no sense. we want to kill men with guns. the command structure is essentially already dismantled, now it is the individual cells who need to be found and stopped. this would require monitoring of their communications and networks, something I seem to remember you are against?

what measures will you take besides building bomb shelters and inspecting old ladies in airports?

Opium has always been the dominant crop in Afganistan. did you suppose that bringing free markets to that region would eliminate that. you really have no concept of the marketplace do you. Is that why you always want to redistribute wealth and punish inventors and investors?

Posted by: kingofzouk | September 6, 2006 5:06 PM | Report abuse

More silly retread non-facts for your side.

Saddam was in active negotiations with various terror organizations. He paid a bounty to suicide bombers. It was only a matter of time before....
what does a secular country have anything to do with this. that is some tired old fact that keeps getting brought up for arguing, but does not apply in the least. As in, women were better off getting raped at will because Iraq was a secular country.

they are not trying to blow up americans, they are blowing up shia/sunnis. Natives are killed 86% of the time. this has been going on a long time and only now is being revealed by a free press.

the reason Iran is laughing at us is not our military weakness, it is our political will. Our "allies" and you spineless lefties wouldn't fight to save your own daughters. But we are going to have to alleviate the threat from Iran and it is looking like the strike option is the last resort. In case you forgot, we are at war with a group who has sworn to kill us all. why don't you believe them?

north Korea commands no vital global resources. they are totally isolated. Iran and Iraq can effect the entire global oil market. I know economics is not a Dem strong suit but the price of all oil is linked to the supply through the Hormuz straights. this is not about US interests alone. In fact we get a lot of our oil from Venezuela but the price is relative. were you paying attention last month when the price went up? you probably thought it was all due to corporate gouging.

Still waiting.

Posted by: kingofzouk | September 6, 2006 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Oh and lets all thank Bush's folly for creating the single largest Opium crop in the history of the world. If we had even half of those troops stuck babysitting in Iraq redeployed to Afghanistan we'd have Osama bin Laden and the opium trade practically wiped out. But no, according to Zouk we're fighting Osama 3,000 miles away from where he actually is.

Posted by: Will | September 6, 2006 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Zouk-
the war ended in 1991. But that is beside the point. What has that to do with Al Qaida? Not a thing. Saddam was no friend of them. In fact he was anathema to them. After all, he led a secular country. Again, how many times have north Korea broken rules? We're not in North Korea right now.

Do you really think the guys setting of IEDs in Iraq are Al Qaida? Are you that naive? Do you think the 1000s of fighters currently in Iraq were going about their daily lives trying to blow up americans before we got there?

So you're saying we're not militarily weakened by Iraq? Think Iran thinks that? Ha. They're laughing in our faces because they know we're pretty powerless right now.

But then, you don't care about facts unless they're convenient.

Posted by: Will | September 6, 2006 4:47 PM | Report abuse

you need to get your facts straight. Iraq did indeed attack first. Remember 1991?


http://www.canadafreepress.com/2006/williams090606.htm

FACTS - In 1991, the Hussein regime signed a cease fire agreement with coalition forces that required Iraq to live up to certain conditions of that cease fire. Between 1991 and 1998, the Hussein regime repeatedly broke those conditions and violated no less than 16 subsequent UN resolutions demanding their compliance. In 1998, the Clinton administration authored a bill that overwhelmingly passed both houses of congress, making regime change in Iraq the official US policy on Iraq. In 2002, after 9/11/01, Bush sought congressional approval to use force to affect that official US policy and congress voted 370 --156 in favor of using force to affect regime change in Iraq.

2. why aren't we in N Korea - well technically, we are still at war with them too since 1950. the largest part of our military is 15 miles or less from thier border. If they invade one of their neighbors, we will be in N korea. Darfur has no vital resources and Pakistan is currently an ally. why the dumb retread questions?

3. they didn't exist before we invaded - where do you get this stuff from. ever heard of Abu Nidal. he was enjoying a quiet retirement in Iraq. did you read about the training camps? where have you been?

4. I am skeptical about your ability to assess the Army's ability to gather intelligence. It sounds like speculation or do you have classified documents in your socks?


so do you have any actual points to make that are based in reality? any solutions to the present situation? I'm still and presume to continue to wait for a solid response.

Posted by: kingofzouk | September 6, 2006 4:45 PM | Report abuse

KOZ-

I see, I'm batty now. Rather than aargue valid points you resort to namecalling. Let me guess, I have 'half a brain' or am elitist or a moonbat. Whatever. The names people call each other from the safety of a desk.

Posted by: Will | September 6, 2006 4:36 PM | Report abuse

KingofZouk-

My central argument being that as Americans, we're the good guys who never attack first. We were attacked on 9/11 and pray-tell, how many of those attackers were from the then secular dictatorship of Iraq? What percentage were Iraqi? We went after the terrorists and those that harbor terrorists and the world was withus, then we sort of took a detour into personal vendetta land and attacked Iraq. I'm no Saddam apologist, but if your argument was 'he's a bad guy', then why aren't we in Darfur, North Korea, or Pakistan for that matter? Poorer districts indeed.
Take the blinders off, we are creating those terrorists in Iraq by our very nature of occupation. They didn't exist before we invaded. There were and are plenty in Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Indonesia and even probably here who would still love to blow something up here in the name of Islam. Too bad our ability to track and monitor them has been severely compromised by focusing the majority of our troops, translators and military intelligence on babysitting a civil-war.

That's my distinction.

Posted by: Will | September 6, 2006 4:31 PM | Report abuse

KOZ

I wish you and the other conservatives would stop hiding behind the rhetoric of 'fighting for democracy'. Iraq ain't no democracy and never will be. Even if we won outright.

This is about Oil. This is about guaranteeing the profits of Haliburton for their stockholders in the White House. This is about attempts to perpetuate a Republican majority ad infinitum.

Their policies are anti-democratic. I think it is a sin that our very noble troops have been exploited in Iraq. I don't think one American life was worth the disaster going on in the middle east.

Posted by: zippy | September 6, 2006 4:26 PM | Report abuse

I am not sure what you meant by:
Hypocrisy? Naked profiteering or other kids fighting and dying for

Are you going batty or is there some underlying rationale for these comments?

Posted by: kingofzouk | September 6, 2006 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Bhoomes- Jeb Bush is the best Governor the state has ever had? You are quite dilusional and probably don't live in the state. His current approval ratings are 54% approve, 44% disapprove. Not exactly best governor in state history numbers. Most would probably agree that Bob Graham has been the best governor of the last half century. Jeb is very popular amoong Republicans because he has governed in a very right-wing, partisan fashion which has not endeared him to the Democrats or Independents of this state.

JimD- The gubernatorial race will not be a blow out. The latest Rasmussen poll has Crist 45%, Davis 41%. This will be a close race. I think you will see Crist's sexuality become a part of the campaign, which if some of the rumors are true, would not endear him to the state's social conservatives. Crist is divorced with no kids and has never owned a home while Davis has a wife and two teenage boys going to school in Tampa. You can expect a lot of photo ops from the Davis camp to appeal to suburban voters.

While I say the GOP has a slight edge right now, do not be surprised if Davis wins this race. He is a very good politician, who win doubted before has produced surprising results. I think the race will be within 6 points and whoever wins will not garner more than 52% of the vote.

Dems have a strong chance to pick up the Atty General's office with Skip Campbell running against Bill McCollum. I would expect the GOP to retain the CFO and Agriculture positions.

Posted by: H.L. | September 6, 2006 4:19 PM | Report abuse

And your important distinction between Afghanistan and Iraq is what? they are both crawling with Muslim killers bent on revenge for 13 centuries of grievances.

I perceive the democracy in Iraq is more fragile than the one in Afganistan so one could conclude thatg our resources are better used in the poorewr district. Or is giving to the poor only suitable when you fell like it. why does every ally ack that Iraq is the central war on terror. Are you on the general staff and you're not telling us?

Posted by: kingofzouk | September 6, 2006 4:17 PM | Report abuse

KingofZouk-

Democracy is worth dying for. So is the bill of rights. Freedom, too. That's why most libs support the war in Aphganistan, where we're fighting terror.

Hypocrisy? Naked profiteering? Nope. Repubs seem to think it's worth other kids fighting and dying for. On the flip side, I'll defend to the death your right to say stupid inflammatory rhetoric. How's that for flailing? Or am I just a moonbat for beilieving in what my founding fathers believed in?

Posted by: Will | September 6, 2006 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Nor'easter

It's not sexuality. It is Character with a Capital 'C'

It's not an issue unless it is dealt with Hypocritcally....That's the Republicans fatal flaw...after Jack Abramoff

Posted by: zippy | September 6, 2006 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Desm have no set values. that is why they are always flailing around looking for something to grab onto. Gayness is only bad if a Repub is discovered. Otherwise it is a lifestyle choice. abortion is good because the big bad government must stay out of your personal choices, unless you choose to go to school, save for retirement, see a doctor, etc. what was the babies choice we'll never know.

since that have no established morality, they are free to criticize anything and everything without the bother of coming up with any alternatives. terrorists are bad - but so is Bush. See how that works. I am still waiting to hear that one thing a Lib thinks is worth fighting and dying for???

Posted by: kingofzouk | September 6, 2006 3:55 PM | Report abuse

MikeB - What you're describing is rank hypocracy. [Do we blame the Snake Oil Salesman, or the people who buy the Snake Oil? Actually it should be both.]

Just remember that Liberals, especially Democrats, have been telling us for decades that sexuality (and gender and race) are not issues when it comes to indivisuals. That it is what is behind those surface features which counts.

The focus on the sexuality as opposed to the hypocracy is why those postings stood out so much.

Posted by: Nor'Easter | September 6, 2006 3:51 PM | Report abuse

I was giving up this blog for lent but I have to chime in.

Mike B. The character of the Republican Party is a major issue. In a very serious vein, are these the kind of people who should be running a democracy?

Listen to Dubya the last couple of days and most of all today.

He has gone "Tough Guy" verging on characature of a South American dicator. His true colors are showing now that he is desperate.

Here's his schtick:

CIA PRisons- Yeh, they're there. So What?

Torture. Yeh we did it. So What?

Kanagaroo Courts in Guantanamo. You Betcha...and my guys in Congress will force through the laws to make them legal before the Lefty Dems can take over and stop me. And by the way they'll get rid of that pesky habeas corpus baloney and activist judges too.

Seriously though. This government is getting psychotic to the point where the electorate needs to be very concerned.

I agree with whoever expressed the hope that Ms. Harris stays on her meds.

Posted by: zippy | September 6, 2006 3:51 PM | Report abuse

You also forgot that you are a liar too. The polls are not evening out and you know it. They are moving more to the Dems everyday. Most minimum wage workers are over 25 and you know it. States would not be raising min wage if it were just for young people. Plus we do not need liars like you on our side. We win without you

Posted by: Larry | September 6, 2006 3:49 PM | Report abuse

MikeB- you are astounded that your manner of convincing is not effective but that Bush and co is very effective. Maybe it's your tone. Maybe it's your liberal use of facts. none of you kooks still get it.

No big G, no new taxes, no mad bombers!

Posted by: kingofzouk | September 6, 2006 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Florida votes...while the country chuckles...see a tongue-in-cheek visual of two infamous Floridians singing their favorite "Church & State" Hymns...here:

http://www.thoughttheater.com/2006/08/katherine_anita_the_world_of_l.php

Posted by: Daniel DiRito | September 6, 2006 3:41 PM | Report abuse

I should probably let this go, but Rove's sexual preferences and the sexual preferences of all Republican's are an issue. It isn't just about hypocracy. It's also about everything the leadership of the Republican's do flying in the face of their supporters. Working class people supporting a Party that encourages the outsourcing of their jobs? American's supporting a Party that is intertwined with corporations that sell our most sensative technologies to genuine enemy states? And, the Fundimentalists supporting an administration that is filled to overflowing with people who's sexual practices they claim to find abhorent? Give me a break! The Republican Party, and especially the Bush White House, stand in opposition to morality, patriotism, and every traditional value and have somehow managed to convince people that they are something other than that? That, I think, is simply amazing.

Posted by: MikeB | September 6, 2006 3:29 PM | Report abuse

I heard today she wants Reid's job.

Posted by: kingofzouk | September 6, 2006 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Nor'easter

Only if Jeb changes his name.

Besides, the southern republican conservative wing would resurrect the Whigs or secede before nominating an african american.

Only way that would happen is if Hillary runs-and Hillary won't.

Posted by: everyman | September 6, 2006 3:19 PM | Report abuse

I see the conspiracy moonbats are out in full force today. Is that because you hear the breathing behind you of the slipping poll numbers. the ones the press tried to ramp up to make that crazy story about the impending wave? well now that reality is closing in the poll numbers are evening out and people with actual original thoughts are starting to listen to the noise of the election. I suggest you keep up the wacky talk, voters are listening and you all sound mighty nuts. I know you have no agenda, no ideas, little spine for defense, want to increase taxes and inflate big government. I last heard that minimum wage was your most important goal. since only 2.5 % of the population (half under 25) are included in this demographic, do you have any other plans to finally win a single election?

Yes I am evil, stupid, deranged, conservative, etc. All Rs are. And we are all gay Jews too. that must be why we control the universe.

when I say it it just doesn't seem to have the panache it does when you all say those things. Perhaps I'll have half my brain removed. Projected result: I begin to understand you and you get another Dem voter.

Posted by: kingofzouk | September 6, 2006 3:16 PM | Report abuse

How about Jeb and Condi in 2012? Would Tina support that?

Posted by: Nor'Easter | September 6, 2006 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Drindl - You need to do better in citing your sources. It appears that the entire quote in the 1:41 PM post is a portion of Keith Olberman's Special Commentary last night (09/05/06). http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6210240/#060905b


MikeB - I think that the discussion on Rove's sexuality should have been a quick and simple "He's a hypocrite!" and why. But it semed that his sexuality was the issue in the posts, not his hypocracy. I was surprised at the effort expended by the Liberal posters.

Gotta side with Bhommes on this "...who really cares whether Karl Rove's father was gay or not." Or even if Rove himself is gay. There's enough about him to oppose or to support beyond his sexual orientation.

On the other side I have to disagree with Bhoomes in that I don't really see much of the Republican Party, beyond the Log Cabin members, providing quite the "welcome" to gays that Bhooomes says there is.

Posted by: Nor'Easter | September 6, 2006 3:02 PM | Report abuse

I really do not know that much about Karl Rove's personal life and don't care to know his or others who are not in elected positions, but have you Heard of the Log Cabin Republicans, MikeB. It is gay americans who support the republican party. We welcome gays in our party, does'nt mean the majority of us agree with gay marriage, just that we like a diversified group who share a common core of conservative beliefs and values.

Posted by: bhoomes | September 6, 2006 2:53 PM | Report abuse

"Jeb Bush is smart enough to know 08 would not be his year..."

...you shoulda stopped right there, bh, and it would have been prophetic in its simplicity.

There are skeletons rattling around in that closet with meat on em' still. The vultures in the media will be pickin' away at it, if Brer'Bush doesn't stay in the briar patch and out of politics.

If any serious investigations are ever launched into Jeb's "alleged" complicity in Florida voter fraud (shades of Katherine Harris!) he'll turn into one of those southern republican tarbabies, just like his brother George has become.

The radio-active Bush family... Its that Kennebunkport "Let them eat yellowcake!" class superiority. These days, as far as politics goes, after dark, they glow like they just walked away from that winnable nuclear war the old man always fantasized about.

The Bush family will always bear a legacy of secrets and lies, all stacked up under history's lock and key, with a curious, (and outraged) public yearning to get at that key...

Not a hopeful scenario for any future Presidential aspirant. But he obviously has "the base" (that 15% of the electorate certifiable as "right-wing brainwashed")in tow, considering where his endorsements are coming from on this blog...

Posted by: JEP | September 6, 2006 2:33 PM | Report abuse

bhoomes - Most of us liberals are rather struck by the hypocracy of it all. I mean, a constant refrain for the past six years in the underground presss, has been Karl Rove's "odd" version of homosexuality. There are sworn statements by witnesses to his going to gay nightclubs and parties and more. The only reason ths is interesting is that he and the Bush campaign have counted on the pseudo-christian right for much of their support and we think it's just fascinating that these baffoons are supporting a gay agenda that is even considered weird by the gay community.

Posted by: MikeB | September 6, 2006 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, asantos, for pointing out that Jeb Bush should have been listed in the "losers" column. He cut TV commercials for the School Board member he persuaded to run against State. Sen. Villalobos as punishment for Villalobos' "disobedience" on the class size amendment. It was just another example of a Bush ignoring, shrugging off, or actively trying to circumvent the spoken will of the electorate. Well, he got his head handed to him by about 600 voters from Villalobos' district. Ain't democracy wonderful when it's allowed to work?

Posted by: McGee | September 6, 2006 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Jeb Bush is smart enough to know 08 would not be his year, that's why he took himself out of the running last year. But give us anothet 8 or 12 years(he's young enough)he will be the odds on favotite. I the mean guy was just the best governor the state of Florida ever had. Drindl what's the deal with Rove and gays. Have you got a hang up with gays like you do with jews? I mean who really cares whether Karl Rove's father was gay or not. For somebody who supposely represents the party of tolerance, you sure do have a lot of groups on your list you don't tolerate.

Posted by: bhoomes | September 6, 2006 2:06 PM | Report abuse

The Dems just opened up a great new interactive site called "PartyBuilder", I got on a navigated around a bit, and made a page, it's at
http://www.democrats.org/page/outreach/view/50statestrategy/JEP

This new site reminds me of the open-source tools we were all building and using during the early days of the Howard Dean presidential campaign, back in 2003, when I was still in California.

Pretty nifty, I gotta say, and might help solve some of that problem TheIrishCurse has rightly identified in the Democrat's GOTV effectiveness.

Makes it easy to connect with others for that very purpose.

Posted by: JEP | September 6, 2006 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Thing that worries me about dems as a whole(and i am one)is the turnout on election day..We all know the repugs do get out and vote...We don't..I'm just hoping there is enough pissed off dems and independants out there in November to make a difference..BTW, gotta be in for another round of dead horse beating on gay marriage and flag burning before November don't we????

Posted by: TheIrishCurse | September 6, 2006 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Is there a reason to mention FL-15?

I mean, good job and good luck but Wheldon won 65%-35% in 2004 and had a 10-1 cash advantage over the good doctor.

There are plenty of better targets in Florida than this one and trying to cover the entire nation to boot, I am not surprised FL-15 got left out but don't blame The Fix. It is on none of the national radar's.

Posted by: RMill | September 6, 2006 1:53 PM | Report abuse

In other Florida news, I see a possible boycott against Disney percolating up in response to their network ABC's so-called documentary about 9/11 which includes many fictional elements that favor Republicans.

Posted by: Bill McKibben | September 6, 2006 1:42 PM | Report abuse


Today, in the same subtle terms in which Mr. Bush and his colleagues muddied the clear line separating Iraq and 9/11 -- without ever actually saying so--the President quoted a purported Osama Bin Laden letter that spoke of launching, "a media campaign to create a wedge between the American people and their government."

Make no mistake here--the intent of that is to get us to confuse the psychotic scheming of an international terrorist, with that familiar bogeyman of the right, the "media."

The President and the Vice President and others have often attacked freedom of speech, and freedom of dissent, and freedom of the press.

More fascism on the march--bush has joined with limbaugh and others in trying to eliminate freedom of speech and destroy the credibility of journalists by linking them to bin Ladin--oh, Goebbels would have been proud, From Olberman:

'Now, Mr. Bush has signaled that his unparalleled and unprincipled attack on reporting has a new and venomous side angle:

The attempt to link, by the simple expediency of one word--"media"--the honest, patriotic, and indeed vital questions and questioning from American reporters, with the evil of Al-Qaeda propaganda.

That linkage is more than just indefensible. It is un-American.'

Posted by: drndl | September 6, 2006 1:41 PM | Report abuse

the state races pretty much played out how everyone expected. harris should have pulled in over 60% given her name rec and experience vs the other reps in the race. she's a wounded duck heading into a race against an experienced politician who has been able to stay pretty clear of the mudslinging that went on in the big 3 primaries this year. the key to any victory in fl are the independent voters particularly in north fl who have been supporting gop candidates in statewide in recent history despite the fact that a majority of them still register to vote as dems. as this point, those voters are nelson's to lose. harris will have to run a perfect campaign for the next 2 months to even have a shot, and even then nelson is well positioned to hold onto his seat.

i wasn't surprised to see the gop gov primary turn nasty. everyone expected that. what did surprise me was the topics gallagher chose to focus on, and to glance over. rumors of crist's sexual orientation have swirled around tallahassee for years, but gallagher only alluded to those by saying crist was pro-civil union. will davis spend the next 2 months questioning the validity of these rumors and putting crist on the defensive? to win, davis has to find a way to appeal to the north fl independents since it was apparent early in the primary that he couldn't touch the rural base that overwhelmingly supported rod smith.

i remember when rep. mark foley considered a run for us senate in 2004 and how his decision to run was quickly changed after a small south fl newspaper ran a story about his sexuality.

Posted by: DaCo in FL | September 6, 2006 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Drindl,

What's the URL for your political website?
Thanks!

Posted by: larry | September 6, 2006 1:36 PM | Report abuse

SmirkingChimp.com, larry, thanks for asking. We went live with a new version just yesterday. Check it out.

Posted by: drindl | September 6, 2006 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Dear God, please allow the GOP to be stupid enough to nominate another Bush to the national ticket. How about Frist-Bush 08? That's a ticket not even Diabold could get a win for, what with Mr. no longer a doctor and Jeb Crow himself leading the Republican party.

Posted by: Greg in LA | September 6, 2006 1:35 PM | Report abuse

I switched threads accidentally... I see this is back up.

che, Kelly is fighting for her life this time... her district is going blue in a big way, surrounded by the rest of westhcester county which is so blue republicans don't even bother to have primaries anymore, or vote.

Has anyone heard about this 'Path to 9/11' propaganda hit piece on Democrats that ABC plans to air 9/11? It's really astonishing... they've given copies to really far-right wing bloggers and pundits, but won't allow Madeline Albright to see it ahead of time... or former President Clinton. No democrats have been alllowed to see it, and it's full of errors, distortions and blatant lies. It's truly an astonishing, bare-knuckled attempt to influence the election. Liberal media, my a** -- let them know how you feel, here's a list of contacts at ABC. I've called several. It's outrageous:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/9/6/101819/4311

And here's the text of Albright's letter to ABC:

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/06/abc-dvd/

Posted by: drindl | September 6, 2006 1:03 PM | Report abuse

There is no longer any reason to give the Florida senate race any more attention than the ones in Utah, Massachusetts, Indiana or Wyoming.

Posted by: oblomov81 | September 6, 2006 12:54 PM | Report abuse


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California 44th Congressional District -- Louis Vandenberg (running against the truly corrupt Republican Ken Calvert).

Florida 6th Congressional District -- Dave Bruderly (running against George W. Bush yes-man Cliff Stearns).

Florida 15th Congressional District -- Bob Bowman (running against Dave Weldon, the major Republican to have the Federal government intercede to keep Terry Schiavo on a feeding tube against the wishes of her husband).

Florida 24th Congressional District -- Clint Curtis (he's the former Yang Enterprises, Inc. computer programmer who is running against the corrupt Tom Feeney, Yang's one-time chief lobbyist and corporate counsel (who, at the same time, was Speaker of the Florida House!) who asked Curtis to write a vote-flipping program. Curtis was also a friend of the murdered Florida Dept. of Transportation investigator Ray Lemme, who "knew too much" about money laundering and contract fraud in Jeb Bush's kleptocratic administration. House Judiciary Chairman John Conyers will need Curtis in his impeachment investigations of the Bush regime). This race is extremely important in the effort to shift "Mr. Conflicts of Interest" Feeney from the House of Representatives to a federal House of Corrections).

Florida 25th Congressional District -- Michael Calderin (running against one of two GOP Bushbot brothers from Florida, Mario Diaz-Balart).

Michigan 9th Congressional District -- Nancy Skinner (running against Joe Knollenberg, a NAFTA and free trade supporter who has screwed over his own working class constituents).

Michigan 11th Congressional District -- Tony Trupiano (running against Thad McCotter, who likes to serenade George Bush with his country band -- and how sick is that?)

Minnesota 2nd Congressional District -- Coleen Rowley, the former FBI agent who blew the whistle on Bush malfeasance in the investigation of 911 perpetrator Zacarias Moussaoui (running against John Kline, infested with campaign contributions from GOP crooks Tom DeLay and Duke Cunningham (now in prison)).

SENATE

New York -- Jonathan Tasini -- running against Hillary Clinton (who supports Bush's war in Iraq). Democratic primary Sept. 12.

Virginia -- Jim Webb -- running against the virulent racist Republican George Allen. As a Virginia resident, I don't want "Grand Wizard" Allen representing me or my interests.

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California 49th Congressional District -- Jeeni Criscenzo -- running against California gubernatorial recall architect and car thief-turned-car burglar alarm salesman Darrell Issa. Criscenco just traveled to Jordan to talk to Iraqi Parliament members. And you know what they told her? They want our troops out of Iraq!

Florida 10th Congressional District -- Samm Simpson from my mom's hometown of Dunedin -- running against C.W. Bill Young, who's been hanging around the House too damned long as a GOP lackey for Richard Nixon, Jerry Ford, Ronald Reagan, Poppy Bush, and now, Little Lord Busheroy. This race is important! Simpson wants to fully investigate Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and the rest. House Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers will need her support during the House Impeachment hearings.

Iowa Governor -- Chet Culver -- running against Newt Gingrich and neo-con architect Jim Nussle. A senseless whiner about "family values," Nussle allegedly carried on an affair with a staffer for GOP Rep. Jim Ross Lightfoot's while Nussle's wife took care of their learning-disabled son in Iowa. How nice for a guy who served as Newt's "Contract for [on] America" hit man. Gingrich, of course, divorced two of his wives after they became ill.

New York 19th Congressional District -- John Hall -- running against Sue Kelly, someone who has been a shameless rubber stamp for the Bush-Cheney cabal.


Posted by: che | September 6, 2006 12:53 PM | Report abuse

drindl - The corporations and people Bush and the Republican's have behind them are flat out evil. Perhaps we ought to be taking openly about this election as a battle between good and evil. The right has fat blowhearts, serial adulterers, lazy overbearing administrators, crooks, self serving incompetent inbred snots, treasonous businessmen willing to sell defense secrets to foreign governments, and worse. Liberal have genuinely patriotic American's that fight for and serve this country. The rats on the right merely pontificate about patriotism. Liberals live it!

Posted by: MikeB | September 6, 2006 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Apologize in advance if this annoys anyone, but I'm just stunned by what's creeping up on us -- people are willing to pay to allow our government to implant a device in them that can be linked to every piece of information ever known about them. I'm sorry, maybe I'm getting old, but i find this breathtaking--

Oh, brave new world, that has such creatures in it!

'VeriChip is marketed as a universal means of identification, intended for use in a variety of settings, including financial and transportation security, residential and commercial building access, and military and government security.

For an initial "chipping" fee, as well as a monthly $9.95 subscription fee, customers' arms are implanted with a glass chip about the size of a grain of rice, containing a unique verification number. When activated by a VeriChip scanner, that number is emitted by a small radio frequency, providing instant access to information logged in the Global VeriChip Subscriber (GVS) Registry.

On October 12, 2004, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved VeriChip for medical applications in the United States. The approval will allow VeriChip to be used to confirm identity, and check the blood type, potential allergies and medical history of unconscious patients. The device is subject to Class II special controls to mitigate potential risks identified by the FDA, which include adverse tissue reaction, electromagnetic interference, and magnetic resonance imaging incompatibility.

In March 2004, a nightclub in Barcelona began using VeriChip as a sort of embedded VIP card for its customers. Patrons of the Baja Beach Club can pay 125 Euros to have the chip implanted, then use it to bypass entry lines and keep track of bar tabs.

Planned future uses for VeriChip include a variety of financial, security, defense, homeland security and secure-access applications. ASDX sees its product as "tamper-proof personal identification" for use in credit card and ATM access, airport security, and port congestion management, as well as admission to military bases, government installations, and private-sector buildings. The system is marketed as a stand-alone product or for use in conjunction with biometric devices. ASDX has started a marketing campaign under the slogan "Get Chipped", that includes a traveling van called the "ChipMobile".

VeriChip Corporation is a wholly owned subsidiary of Applied Digital Solutions, Inc (ASDX). According to a recent report filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission, ASDX "focuses on a range of life enhancing, personal safeguard technologies, early warning alert systems, miniaturized power sources and security monitoring systems combined with the comprehensive data management services required to support them".

ASDX customers include several federal agencies, such as Departments of Defense, Agriculture, and Justice, the Social Security Administration, the Veterans Administration and the United States Postal Service, as well as the insurance, utility, communications, and high tech industries.

Posted by: drindl | September 6, 2006 11:40 AM | Report abuse

zathras,

Briefing Paper #98: http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=6654

This is the link I got from Cato, but some of their characters look garbled, bad type conversion, so if that doesn't work let me know and I'll find it on their site for you.

Also MikeB, there's another tech firm involved in the Identity Card scam-VeriChip. Yes, that's right -- chip. Mark Mclellan, who's in charge of Medicare and who helped the pharmas so much with pushing through Part D- is a major sharedholder in VeriChip, which has a contract to study the idea of permanent identity chips.

'The VeriChip Personal Identification System is a small radio frequency identification device (RFID) that is implanted into the human body' -- it says on their website. These people are already getting taxpayer dollars to implement their plan, even as we speak. This is the nation of zombies we will become if republicans stay in power.

This truly is the most important election you will ever vote in.

Posted by: drindl | September 6, 2006 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Florida Results
No surprises

US Senate
Nelson (D)* vs. Harris (R)

Governor
Crist (R) vs. Davis (D)

Poll Watch

Governor
Actual Results

Dem Primary
Davis 47.4%
Smith 41.1%
margin 6.3%

Rep Primary
Crist 64%
Gallagher 33.4%
margin 30.6%

US Senate
Rep Primary
Harris 49.4%
McBride 30%
Collins 15.3%
Monroe 5.3%
margin 19.4%

Polls

Quinnipiac
Aug 10-13
Dem Primary
Davis 43%
Smith 32%
margin 11%
Call= 1pt
Margin= 0
Candidate totals= 0
Total= 1 pt
Quality pick= 4pts

Rep Primary
Crist 57%
Gallagher 32%
margin 25%

Call= 1pt
Margin= 0
Candidate totals= 1 pt (gallagher total within margin or error)
Total= 2 pts
Quality pick= 4pts

US Senate
Rep Primary
Harris 38%
McBride 22%
Collins 11%
Monroe 3%
margin 16%
Total= 3 pts

6 pts in 3 race= 2.0 avg
Overall average= 2.4 pts on 5 races polled

Mason Dixon
July 24
Dem Primary
Davis 29%
Smith 14%
margin 15%
Total= 1 pt

Rep Primary
Crist 55%
Gallagher 24%
margin 31%
Total= 2 pts

US Senate
Rep Primary
Harris 36%
McBride 11%
Collins 8%
Monroe 2%
margin 25%
Total= 2 pts

5 pts in 3 races= 1.67 avg
Overall average= 1.9 pts on 11 races polled

Strategic Vision
Aug 30
Dem Primary
Davis 43%
Smith 37%
margin 6%
Total= 2 pts

Rep Primary
Crist 52%
Gallagher 36%
margin 16%
Total= 2pts

US Senate
Rep Primary
Harris 48%
McBride 11%
Collins 6%
Monroe 4%
margin 37%
Total= 3 pts

7 pts in 3 race= 2.33 avg
Overall average= 2.6 pts on 5 races polled

Survey USA

Rep Primary
Crist 57%
Gallagher 34%
margin 23%
Total= 2 pts

US Senate
Rep Primary
Harris 45%
McBride 22%
Collins 12%
Monroe 5%
margin 23%
Total= 4 pts

6 pts in 2 race= 3.0 avg
Overall average= 3.18 pts on 22 races polled

St. Pete Times
August 11
US Senate
Rep Primary
Harris 28%
McBride 11%
Collins 9%
Monroe 5%
margin 17%
Total= 5 pts

Only race polled

Posted by: RMill | September 6, 2006 11:23 AM | Report abuse

This new/old twist in the ongoing and many-tentacled Tom Delay scandal sounds more like "desperate Congressional housewives" except with those kinds of perks, why would they be desperate? Now, though, as the public scrutiny closes in, the "desperation" tag might just fit.

Weren't there a couple of Californa Republican Congressmen's wives in that same "club"? I can't recall their names, anyone else remember?

No wonder these Republicans don't want to give up their stranglehold on both houses, if that frustrated public-owned pit bull called "justice" is ever unleashed, it will first go after the bullies who teased it.

You can't just "flirt" with corruption, it demands a much longer embrace.

These guys who put their wives on the gravytrain and disregarded any future consequenses, will now have to watch their wives account for that hubris.

If this is coming out now, no doubt with political forces heaving mightily against releasing this information, imagine what a full-scale investigation into these types of Republican Corruption shenanigans would uncover.

One bit of conjecture that itches my curiosity: They sure seem to have thought it was going to go on forever. Otherwise, they would have at least TRIED to cover their tracks a bit better. I get the feeling Tom Delay was so arrogant, he simply never imagined himself on the wrong end of a grand jury.

And neither, apparently, did his minions and their wives.

Posted by: JEP | September 6, 2006 11:01 AM | Report abuse

re: National Identity Cards
One thing that ought to really worry people is the company behind the identoity cards, the data collected, and how it is to be used - Matrix. Matrix Absense Management is a CA company that does "hit jobs" on people filing for workman's compensation claims. They commonly go all the back to elementary school and involved every acquaintance of the target person. The, they either sell or otherwise release all of the information thus collected to their "partner" companies. Matrix is brutal and underhanded. You can expect any and all informartion they collect for whatever reason to end up on corporate and even foreign hands. Essentially, they ruin lives. THIS, you people, is who is behind the White House National Identity Card initiative.

Posted by: MikeB | September 6, 2006 11:00 AM | Report abuse

Yes, JEP, you are absolutely right. TIA was publicly killed but just rolled over into other things. As Alberto Gonazlez admiited, the NSA domestic spying program is just one of many. You can google till you're blind on this, there's actually a lot of stuff out there. But only foundation reports and academics and so forth -- the media is scared to touch it.

What I do know, as part of a class-action lawsuit against AT&T, is that a gigantic centralized database is being built by them under government contract, which will unite in one place all of your personal info --credit card and other financial records, medical records, employment records, web searches, even educational history now--unfortunately, the technology is now here that makes all that info very easy to assimiliate and cross-reference.

We have a perfect storm brewing -- all-knowing technology meets extremists bent on deregulation and control. Did you know that Hitler used IBM to set up a punchcard system to identify every citizen in Germany? Everyone had a complete history attached to a number -- which eventually was tatooed on their arms --if they were a liberal, homosexual, disabled, or a Jew.

Posted by: drindl | September 6, 2006 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Drindl,

Do you have a link to the Cato study you mention? I know several people I'd like to send this to.

Posted by: Zathras | September 6, 2006 10:54 AM | Report abuse

JEP, you are absolutely correct. There is no doubt in my mind that TIA morphed into the the NSA's DS program, and we are looking at another brainchild of John Poindexter, who has provided so much to us over the years.

We have just seen the tip of the iceberg on this issue. If the Dems win 1 house we will start seeing the subpoenas fly. I wouldn't make any vacation plans for next year if I were a D.C. District Judge, because they are going to be flooded with Congress v. President battles then.

Posted by: Zathras | September 6, 2006 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Does anyone have the same vague memory link that keeps tugging at me, that puts John Poindexter of Iran Contra infamy, somehow at the origins of this NSA program? Wasn't his "Total Informaion Awareness" program,(a neocon-spawned super-authority much more pervasive than what the NSA purports to be,) a conceptual pre-cursor to the NSA web of surveillance?

I wonder if that TIA program never really folded-up, like we were told, maybe it just morphed and they re-labeled and put it on the market as something new called the NSA Program.

Which begs the question, (at least in my mind), is the NSA program really much more invasive than it claims, and that the "unlimited access" scenario Poindexter first proposed, has actually been realized?

Without oversight, we will never know.

Posted by: JEP | September 6, 2006 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Love the Harris bobblehead doll --aptly sums up her campaign. In other political news... the WSJ has an interesting piece--the flames are licking DeLay's feet. Will he talk or let his wife take a fall for him?

' The Justice Department's congressional lobbying-and-bribery investigation is looking into whether former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay's wife received money from a lobbying firm for a no-show job, recent FBI interviews indicate.

The two-year investigation is examining whether lobbyist Jack Abramoff and others sought legislative favors for their clients by offering expensive meals, sports tickets, golf outings and other gifts to about a dozen lawmakers and congressional aides.

In the last few weeks, Federal Bureau of Investigation agents have interviewed several people at the Alexander Strategy Group lobbying firm to determine if Christine DeLay was being paid $3,200 a month -- a total of $115,000 over three years -- but not earning it. In a series of interviews last month, investigators questioned people who used to work at Alexander Strategy as well as people who worked in the same building as the now-defunct firm. "They wanted to know how often she came to the office? What did she do there? How long was she there?" said one person who was interviewed by the FBI.

Alexander Strategy was run by a pair of Mr. DeLay's former aides: Tony Rudy, who pleaded guilty to bribery charges in March; and Edwin Buckham, who remains under investigation. The firm also shared clients with Jack Abramoff.

Posted by: drindl | September 6, 2006 10:31 AM | Report abuse

Perhaps Florida Republicans will demand a recount to prevent Harris from embarassing them further! True she had more votes than anyone else in the primary but so what?

http://intrepidliberaljournal.blogspot.com

Posted by: Intrepid Liberal Journal | September 6, 2006 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Well, low and behold just when I thought maybe, just maybe the people of Florida had stopped drinking the koolaid, they go and vote for Harris! First of all, I hope this woman never goes off her meds, lord help the people of the country if she does. Second let's hope when the final results are totalled up in the final election people will send this bimbo back to her mansion and hair dressers! Sue F

Posted by: Sue Filutze | September 6, 2006 10:25 AM | Report abuse

Jeb Bush should have been listed as a loser in the Florida Primary. He was part of a multi-million dollar effort to unseat a 14 year republican state senate incumbent from Miami who dared to smack down Jeb's efforts to dismantle the widely supported Class size amendment which passed here a few years ago.

Additionally, though he will undoubtedly campaign for Crist, this guy is no Jeb Bush on the cultural issues which are so important to the evangelical voters in the upper half of the state. Crist supports civil unions, would not have intervened in the Schiavo case and doesn't support overturning Roe v. Wade.

As you note, Gallagher is now toast in FL and Nelson will coast to reelection against Harris, who will at last be out of elective office in January.

Posted by: asantos | September 6, 2006 10:25 AM | Report abuse

DEAR MR. CILLIZA,

PLEASE DONT FORGET DISTRICT 10 & 15 IN FLORIDA.

THANK YOU IN ADVANCE.

YOURS TRULY,
CHE

Posted by: che | September 6, 2006 10:23 AM | Report abuse

This Nelson/Harris Florida senate race is worth watching, it's like "Ben Cartwright vs. Desperate Housewives", if they ever debate, be sure and get it on tape, for some reason I would expect that to look something like Pope John Paul vs. that bobble-head girl in "The exorcist".

Here's a great future political memorabilia collectible; Katherine Harris two-faced bobblehead dolls; One face is fierce, the other is "flirty."

Now there's a chuckle...

Posted by: JEP | September 6, 2006 10:20 AM | Report abuse

I've run a political website now for 6 years and am on a lot of mailing lists. Recently I started getting material from the Cato Institute, which is libertarian but used to be a big supporter of the bushes, mainly over tax issues. But now they seem to have woken up... and sent me this today:

'Beware of Doublespeak in the War on Terror
Study exposes euphemisms and half-truths'

WASHINGTON ñ Since the catastrophic terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, the federal government has routinely employed a disturbing new vocabulary -- or doublespeak -- to expand its police powers, claims the new Cato Institute study, 'Doublespeak and the War on Terrorism.'

By compiling a laundry list of doublespeak terms used throughout the war, Timothy Lynch, author of the study and director of Cato's Project on Criminal Justice, scrutinizes the governmentís manipulative use of language and exposes the underlying issues it obscures.

The study finds that the Bush administration has tried to bypass the constitutional framework limiting the power to search and seize private property by championing the use of ìNational Security Lettersî (NSLs) in lieu of obtaining search warrants. ìUnlike search warrants,î Lynch notes, ìNSLs can be executed without the approval of judges.

Furthermore, the term 'debriefing' has become the new euphemism for interrogation and the third degree, writes Lynch. According to the study: W]hen pressed by members of Congress, U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales admitted that the president could order the CIA to treat certain prisoners inhumanely. In sum, the administration can legally authorize an inhumane 'debriefing', but not authorize 'torture.'

Even the U.S. Military has used doublespeak to describe events at Guantanamo, argues Lynch. When three prisoners hanged themselves in their cells, the Camp Commander, Rear Admiral Harry Harris, called the suicides ìan act of asymmetrical warfareî against the American military.

Reasonable people can disagree about what should be done to combat terrorists, Lynch concludes. However, a conscientious discussion of the options before us must begin with a clear understanding of what our government is actually doing.'

Posted by: drindl | September 6, 2006 10:20 AM | Report abuse

Katherine Harris is a heroine to the Republican base in Florida. She is anathema to Democrats and not well-respected among independents. However, Harris simply did not have a credible primary opponent. Will McBride ran some gloriously goofy ads that highlighted Harris' problems and pleaded with Republicans to nominate someone who could win. But he had no political following and would not have fared much better against Nelson. Haris has already run negative ads against Bill Nelson trying to paint him as a liberal. It is not working and she will almost certainly lose. The interesting thing will be to try and gauge the effect that the very popular Crist running for governor has on the very unpopular Harris running for senator - and vice versa. Will Crist drag in extra votes for Harris or will Harris's unpopularity drain votes from Crist. The sugar industry attack has hurt Davis and Crist is heavily favored. He is much better known than Davis and is a very personable politician. Jeb Bush remains very popular in Florida and Crist is more or less his annointed successor. We could see landslide wins for Crist and Nelson. I think the gubenatorial race will be closer but Crist is running well ahead of Davis.

Posted by: JimD in FL | September 6, 2006 10:19 AM | Report abuse

Sally

Agreed. Neither another CLinton or another Bush. The country is moving in quiet 'revolt'. Look to the middle saying they have "had enough and won't stand for it anymore". Something for bothe parties to worry about- for the RNC more than the War in Iraq which will be still going full bore in 2008 and for the Democrats with their continuous lack of focus.

The party with a new direction will win in 2008.

The list of current also rans probably does not include the name of the next president.

Posted by: poor richard | September 6, 2006 10:19 AM | Report abuse

Look at this, President Bush, President Clinton, President Bush and another Clinton?

Our nation has lots of leaders in both parties and I doubt Jeb Bush or Hillary Clinton is running for 2008. The voters are just not going to accept this dynasty thing on either side.

Posted by: Sally | September 6, 2006 10:12 AM | Report abuse


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Dr. Bowman's Vision for America

"I envision an America that leads the world, not with military force, but with its vision, its compassion, its democracy, its freedom, its standard of living, its care for the global environment, its treatment of its own people, and its goodness. It is an America whose government serves the needs of the people, not the greed of multinational corporations and their K Street lobbyists. It is an America in which elected officials, at all levels, see their offices as a chance to serve their fellow Americans, not as an opportunity to line their own pockets. It is an America in which every person (regardless of their race, creed, color, age, or sexual orientation) is valued and lives in dignity, every person is cared for, every person is free to choose his or her life partner, and every person is free to reach his or her full potential.

"It is an America in which every family can be supported by one wage-earner with one job paying a living wage. It is an America in which single parents can freely choose to stay home to care for their children or to work outside the home knowing that their children are taken care of in a safe and nurturing environment. It is an America in which health care (including dental care, vision care, hearing care, long-term care, home health care, and prescription drugs) is provided to all as a right. It is an America in which education is freely available to all, including university, graduate school, medical school, law school, and whatever advanced education the person can successfully handle, and in which educators (including those at the pre-school, elementary school, and high school levels) are highly valued and financially compensated accordingly. It is an America in which policemen, nurses, poets, firefighters, teachers, and garbage collectors can afford a good house in a nice neighborhood and live in comfort along with scientists, brain surgeons, CEOs, rock stars, and basketball players. It is an America whose borders are secure, immigrants are legal, and workers are amply rewarded. It is an America in which faith is respected, culture is preserved, the arts are supported, and the Constitution is followed.

"Above all, it is an America at peace with the world and with its own people. That's the kind of America our people deserve, and that's the kind of America a Citizens' Congress can build. When I get to Washington, with your help, that's the kind of America I will pursue."

-- Dr. Bob Bowman, May, 2006

Dr. Bob Bowman for Congress Campaign
Democratic Candidate for United States Congress
Florida District 15
Brevard, Indian River, Osceola, and Polk Counties

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Posted by: che | September 6, 2006 10:12 AM | Report abuse

Doesn't this read like something out of third-rate banana republic? But then, I guess that's Florida:

'Katherine Harris cruised to a decisive Republican primary victory Tuesday in the U.S. Senate race despite being shunned by most party leaders and hobbled by a campaign that at times appeared to be falling apart.

Harris' troubles began early this year when she was linked to a defense contractor who pleaded guilty in February to bribing a former California congressman. At the time, contractor Mitchell Wade also admitted giving Harris $32,000 in illegal campaign contributions in 2004.

In his plea agreement with federal authorities, Wade said he had dinner with Harris in Washington in 2005. At that dinner, Wade said, he offered to throw a fundraiser for Harris, and she agreed to sponsor a $10 million appropriations' request that would have benefited Wade's company.

Later, the Orlando Sentinel reported that the two had run up a restaurant tab that night of about $2,800, which Wade paid.

After saying for months that she had paid her own way, Harris backtracked and acknowledged that Wade had footed the entire bill.'

Classy candidate ya got there, folks...but at least she doesn't wear as much makeup as she used too, so she doesn't look quite as embalmed..

And Jeb in 2008, nationally? Know anything about his family? Every single one of them, including his wife and all his kids, have a rap sheet as long as your arm. Maybe that flies in Florida, but probably not in Kansas.

Posted by: drindl | September 6, 2006 10:02 AM | Report abuse

I really agree on the elections website. Not only is the current data extensive, but there are a ton of past results, and I like the county breakdown.

Posted by: JoeyJoeJoe | September 6, 2006 9:54 AM | Report abuse

Let's queue this puppy up.

Harris wil be alot closer than people think. The RNC can't let this one get away no matter how much they dislike the candidate. Florida is a big state in 2008 for them.

They have the machine in place to control the vote totals (by hook or by crook)-foot soldiers, tactics and control of the voting machines. I am pragmatic about politics. Vote theft is half the fun.

Jeb in '08? Puh-leeze. In all seriousness, I don't thing the RNC or the country are ready for another Bush administration with Dick Cheney pulling the strings for 8 more years.

Besides, regardless of his credentials, in 2008, having an nameplate with 'Bush' on it will have the same provenance as 'Edsel' to the Ford Motor Company. Marketing that one would be a tough one in what will be a tough presidential election.

Posted by: zippy | September 6, 2006 9:52 AM | Report abuse

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