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Bart Stupak to retire

Updated, 12:47 pm
Michigan Democratic Rep. Bart Stupak will not seek reelection this fall, a decision that comes hard on his front-and-center (and controversial) role in the recent passage of President Barack Obama's health-care legislation.

"This year, after all that we've accomplished, I have decided to begin that new chapter," Stupak wrote in an email to supporters announcing the decision. "I will not seek reelection this November."

He added that he was "proud" to have helped pass health care because "it will significantly improve the health and prosperity of our Michigan families."

Stupak made the decision to retire while attending the Butler-Michigan State game at the Final Four in Indianapolis last weekend, according to an informed source. A series of prominent Democratic leaders made pleas for him to reconsider - including President Obama who called Stupak on Wednesday - but his mind was made up.

Sources familiar with Stupak's thinking describe him as burned out from the long fight over health care in which he emerged as the leading voice of antiabortion Democrats wary about the possibility that the legislation would allow federal funds to be spent on abortions.

Stupak eventually voted for the final bill after Obama signed an executive order re-affirming that no funds from the legislation would go toward abortions. In the wake of that vote, he was treated as a hero within the Democratic caucus. But the reaction toward him from activists on the right and left was significantly more vitriolic. Former Charlevoix County Commissioner Connie Saltonstall has announced she will take on Stupak in the state's Aug. 3 primary.

"After selling his soul to Nancy Pelosi, it appears that Bart Stupak finally found the courage to tell her no," said Ken Spain, communications director for the National Republican Congressional Committee.

Stupak had mulled retirement for the last several cycles but had always found a reason to return. He was contemplating his next step in politics long before the vote on final passage of the health-care bill last month and actively considered a run for the state's open seat governor's race earlier this year before deciding against it.

But, with the passage of health care reform - the main issue on which he ran eighteen years ago - finally completed, Stupak decided his work in Washington was done.

His allies forcefully pushed back on the idea that his retirement was due in any way to the Tea Party movement's focus on defeating him in the fall, pointing out that he had regularly - and easily -- won re-election in the swing district.

Stupak's seat, which takes in much of northern Michigan's Upper Peninsula, will be a major takeover target for Republicans. Obama carried it with with 50 percent in 2008 but George W. Bush won the district in 2000 and 2004.

With Stupak gone, the Democrats mentioned as possible replacements include: state Sen. Mike Prusi, and state Reps. Gary McDowell, Steve Lindberg, Mike Lahti and Judy Nerat.

Stupak is the 16th House Democrat to announce his retirement; 18 Republicans are calling it quits while a 19th -- Florida Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart -- is leaving his 25th District to run in the 21st.

By Chris Cillizza  |  April 9, 2010; 8:36 AM ET
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Note the lack of stamina of the herd. Rumbles through, posting a few nasty comments, and depart.

Now 37th, that's a true marathoner. More like an ultrarunner and the Fix is his Appalachian Trail.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | April 11, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Rep Steven Cohen (D TN) is talking about the Tea Party Movement.


He says that the Tea Party is not "diverse."


The implication of what he is saying is this - FOR A GROUP OF AMERICANS TO BE ABLE TO VOICE A LEGITIMATE OPINION, THEY HAVE TO HAVE A BUNCH OF BLACKS IN THE CROWD WITH THEM.


If they don't have blacks with them, then their opinions are NOT LEGITIMATE.

As far as I see, there is no requirement in the First Amendment to have "diversity" in any assembly of Americans.

Rep. Cohen deserves HARSH WORDS for getting on national television and saying things like this.


Rep. Cohen is a DISGRACE TO OUR SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT -


AND COHEN IS A DISGRACE TO OUR SYSTEM WHICH STATES THAT INDIVIDUAL FREEDOMS TAKE PRECENDENCE OVER GOVERNMENT POWERS.


What Rep. Cohen said is UNAMERICAN.


If Rep. Cohen does not want to respect the rights of AMERICANS TO EXERCISE THEIR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS, HE SHOULD RESIGN IMMEDIATELY.


Statements like those from Rep. Cohen are INFLAMING THE SITUATION, NOT HELPING THE SITUATION.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 10, 2010 11:18 AM | Report abuse

Don't really know what to say about Stupak - on one hand Obama intentionally put thousands of moderate democrats in electorial jeopardy - on the other hand, Stupak caved in on the issue of abortion in a way which is pretty unacceptable.

If Obama and the democrats were HONEST about their pledge about the Hyde Amendment, there should never EVER been differing language in the bills.


This whole mess is Obama's fault - because if Obama had dropped the health care bill in January when the People of Massachusetts voiced their concerns, Stupak would still be in Congress - going towards a certain re-election.

Obama has sealed his own fate - sealed the fate of his party.

The past few months have been incredibilty stupid from an electorial point of view -

STUPAK had to know that he was stepping on two third-rails at the same time - health care and abortion. I guess that is the best way too put it - Stupak has the hair for that analogy too.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 10, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

One factor our sycophantic blogger won't mention.

Right-wing violence is escalating fast. The arrest of terrorists close to acting and of senders of death threats is just going to amp up the remainder even more, they're seeing TYranny TYranny TYranny in driver's licenses and fishing permits as it is. Seeing some of their own rounded up *before they've even shot up any schoolyards* is going to enrage them beyond sani... er, beyond reas... uh, anyway it's going to set them off.

How is the typical not-insane non-redfaced voter going to feel about voting goobs into office when conservative becomes a euphemism for domestic terrorist?

Put that in your glass pipe and smoke it, Cillizza.

Posted by: Noacoler | April 10, 2010 4:56 AM | Report abuse

Ten terms is plenty for any congressperson to serve. I don't blame Mr. Stupak for leaving office; who needs all that grief from the mindless robots who listen to Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity et.al.?

Posted by: CMAN27 | April 9, 2010 11:52 PM | Report abuse

Just imagine.

In addition to posting frantically here all day, zouk/drivel/moonbat/comrade/many others has to visit National Review, Drudge, and a bunch of other fever swamp sites, collect and collate pithy screeds, follow links for more pithy screeds, gather and collate and edit, and then post and post and post.

Leaving scarcely any time to beg for attention from narcissistic women on model mania.

That's some uh "life" you have there, shutterbug.

Posted by: Noacoler | April 9, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

It's fun to see the teabags chortle with glee--they're arcing early and will fall like Icarus way before election. Doesn't it occur to them that now they have no ready-made punching bag? They wanted to crucify Stupak for realizing that being pro-life means more than simeply being anit-abortion. Now what? Sputter sputter little teabags.

Posted by: wd1214 | April 9, 2010 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Just imagine.

In addition to posting frantically here all day, zouk/drivel/moonbat/comrade/many others has to visit National Review, Drudge, and a bunch of other fever swamp sites, collect and collate pithy screeds, follow links for more pithy screeds, gather and collate and edit, and then post and post and post.

Leaving scarcely any time to beg for attention from narcissistic women on model mania.

That's some uh "life" you have there, shutterbug.

Posted by: Noacoler | April 9, 2010 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Stupak and his tea-bagging roommates at C Street will soon have bigger problems than getting reelected. They'll probably be facing tax evasion charges.

And for all the cheap shots all you racist, sexist tea-baggers take at Pelosi, she sure schooled your arses!

Other speakers may have been better at stealing tax-payer money for their cronies, or protecting child molesters, but she's the most effective speaker at doing the people's business in 20 years. The truth hurts.

Posted by: lithium452 | April 9, 2010 9:28 PM | Report abuse


????
He added that he was "proud" to have helped pass health care because "it will significantly improve the health and prosperity of our Michigan families."
????

BUT FOR this WEAK alibi, Stupak's "retirement" could be described as a GUILT COMPLEX. [ or is he merely dodging certain defeat ]

His capitulation to the "anointed one" significantly improves the probability that this Nation will be "owned" by foreign enemies.

Stupak may never receive the acknowledgement he deserves ...
as a TRAITOR to his Country, his constituents, his "principles", his "alleged" conscience and His Sacred Honor.

I pray for his soul.

Posted by: esquire2 | April 9, 2010 8:35 PM | Report abuse


????
He added that he was "proud" to have helped pass health care because "it will significantly improve the health and prosperity of our Michigan families."
????

BUT FOR this WEAK alibi, Stupak's "retirement" could be described as a GUILT COMPLEX. [ or is he merely dodging certain defeat ]

His capitulation to the "anointed one" significantly improves the probability that this Nation will be "owned" by foreign enemies.

Stupak may never receive the acknowledgement he deserves ...
as a TRAITOR to his Country, his constituents, his "principles", his "alleged" conscience and His Sacred Honor.

I pray for his soul.

Posted by: esquire2 | April 9, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Big difference between finishing your term and not running for re-election (Stupak) and QUITTING in the middle of your term to cash in (Palin).

Posted by: JRM2 | April 9, 2010 8:18 PM | Report abuse

@ praetorian-guard: Can you tell me why you keep pushing this meme since the HCR bill explicitly states that no Federal money will fund elective abortions? If someone wants abortion coverage (like the RNC plan) they will have to write a separate check from their own accounts.

Do you have a problem with the RNC health care plan for its members covering abortions?

Posted by: JRM2 | April 9, 2010 8:11 PM | Report abuse

obama's request that stupak vote for obamacare’s mandatory abortion coverage

is like the rattlesnake that needed to cross the river in freezing weather

the snake asked the foolish man if he could cross with him in the boat

the man said “no--you will bite and kill me”

“oh no” said the snake, “then how would i get across the river?”

that made sense to the foolish man

who put the snake under his coat and crossed the river

halfway across the river the snake bit the man

as the man was dying, he began to cut off the snakes head and asked

"why did you do this? now we will both die"

"you knew what i was," hissed the snake

Posted by: praetorian-guard | April 9, 2010 8:11 PM | Report abuse

Proverbs 25:26 (New International Version)

26 Like a muddied spring or a polluted well
is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked

Ecclesiastes 10

1 As dead flies give perfume a bad smell,
so a little folly outweighs wisdom and honor.


Proverbs 4:14 (New International Version)

14 Do not set foot on the path of the wicked
or walk in the way of evil men.

Posted by: praetorian-guard | April 9, 2010 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Congressman Stupak has found that, having betrayed the pro-life cause, he has not mollified the abortion enthusiasts.

He is now detested by both sides. I think it is possible he might even resign from Congress before his term is up.

I predict he will receive some kind of appointment in the Obama Administration.

His legacy is that he was personally responsible for the passage of Obamacare with its rationing of health care, devastating cuts in Medicare, and federal funding of elective abortions.

Posted by: ArtKelly | April 9, 2010 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Stupak did a great job and should be proud. good job, Bart Stupak

Posted by: celestun100 | April 9, 2010 7:37 PM | Report abuse

stupak has morally failed and voted for obamacare

and stupak KNEW better

and now babies will die as his legacy

but we have ALL failed morally

each one of us

so now will stupak respond

like peter

or judas???

there are only two directions.........

obama regime--evil

Posted by: praetorian-guard | April 9, 2010 7:35 PM | Report abuse

stupak has morally failed and voted for obamacare

and stupak KNEW better

and now babies will die as his legacy

but we have ALL failed morally

each one of us

so now will stupak respond

like peter

or judas???

there are only two directions.........

obama regime--evil

Posted by: praetorian-guard | April 9, 2010 7:33 PM | Report abuse

Beltway dictionary

landrieu--to accept legislative bribes boldly and proudly "I didn't sell my vote for $100 millioj, I sold my vote obamacare for $300 million"

like most expletives can function as both a noun and verb

"How much landrieu on this bill?"

"Has she been landrieued yet?"

stupaked--to claim a noble opposition merely to raise the price of landrieu

like other expletives "stupak" can function as both a noun adverb adjective and verb depending upon context.

"She stupaked and claimed she could never vote for infanticide until the price was right."

see also benedict arnold, quisling, 30 pieces of silver etc.

Posted by: praetorian-guard | April 9, 2010 7:32 PM | Report abuse

Oh, the hypocrisy. Those left wingnuts who claim that the GOP and their "hateful rhetoric" drove Bart from office are the same people who were throwing the identical rhetoric when he was using his Pro-Life stance to withhold his vote for the bill. This weak congressman is stepping down because no matter which way he votes, the death threats come his way.

Posted by: BillyBob7 | April 9, 2010 7:23 PM | Report abuse

Jesus ANOTHER zouk moniker.

Uh, don't you think you're just a little too *invested* in this blog, shutterbug?

Anyway, whichever obe you're posting under, it's always the exact same crap. No wonder nobody believes your wild claims of achievement and success.

Posted by: Noacoler | April 9, 2010 7:22 PM | Report abuse

another one bites the dust

obama regime--has the political bubonic plague

in honor of those dems doomed in november for worshipping the obama regime and spitting on your constituents

another one bites the dust
by queen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY0WxgSXdEE

Posted by: praetorian-guard | April 9, 2010 7:00 PM | Report abuse

STUPAK RETIRES before a pending Tea party express visit !

Michael Graham emails: “The Tea Party is the most pro-family org. ever! Everywhere they go, Dems decide to ’spend more time with family.’” It is funny that he announced his decision in the face of a visit from the Tea Party Express. Who’s next? Barney Frank ?

Posted by: pvilso24 | April 9, 2010 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Stupak "said he was tired after 18 years in office and wanted to spend more time with his family." He added that the check was in the mail and of course he will respect you in the morning.

Stupak allowed himself to be thoroughly humiliated during the ObamaCare debate. A proponent of socialized medicine but foe of abortion, he held out for months, insisting that he wouldn't vote for a bill that permitted federal funding of abortion. At the last minute he and a small group of "pro-life" Democrats ran up the white flag, casting the deciding votes in exchange for an executive order that everyone understood was meaningless.

Thus Stupak cast aside his putative principles and failed even to save face. You can see why he might want to "spend more time with the family"--and never have to show his face in public again. James Taranto.

Posted by: kohnfjerry | April 9, 2010 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Joining a monastery, perhaps? Convent?

Posted by: JONWINDY | April 9, 2010 6:37 PM | Report abuse

I am confident that the voters will forget all about the health care decree just like they did with the abortion one.

Posted by: Comrade_Zero | April 9, 2010 6:32 PM | Report abuse

He had to, no one going to vote for Bart Simpson are is it Bart Stupak?

Posted by: xthat | April 9, 2010 6:32 PM | Report abuse

Congressman Stupak's Retirement [Kathryn Jean Lopez]
It has seemed obvious to me … that Stupak would retire.
The tragic thing is that he could have been an inspiring leader, a man who stood up on principle to the most prominent politicians of the day, of his own party. Instead, we know what he did — he surrendered all the power he had for a meaningless executive order…
… Bart Stupak wrote the obituary for the very concept of the pro-life Democrat …

Bart Stupak could have made the Democratic party better. He could have made them realize pro-lifers in their party were a real force to be reckoned with. Instead he drove a nail in the coffin that holds the late Governor Casey's words from a speech at Notre Dame in 1995.
“It was sold to America, this idea [of legal abortion], as a kind of social cure, a resolution,” Casey said. “Instead, it has left us wounded and divided. We were promised it would broaden the circle of freedom. Instead, it has narrowed the circle of humanity.”
“ We were told the whole matter was settled and would soon pass from our minds. Twenty years later, it tears at our souls. And so, it is for me the bitterest of ironies that abortion on demand found refuge, found a home — and it pains me to say this — found a home in the national Democratic party. My party, the party of the weak, the party of the powerless.”

The Democratic party is the party that embraces the culture of death — now more "comprehensively" than ever.

Posted by: pvilso24 | April 9, 2010 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Now, Mr. Stupak, please tell us who paid your rent at C Street?

Posted by: sun52shine | April 9, 2010 6:25 PM | Report abuse

After that healthcare sell-out


STUPAK went KAPUTS careerwise.

Posted by: tncdel | April 9, 2010 6:17 PM | Report abuse

Hey liar Stupak... do everyone a favor and quit now.

Posted by: rg019571 | April 9, 2010 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Some people are simply evil! Making your point in a senseless manner is one thing, becoming vicious and evil is quite another, your tongues are sharper than a knife!!! If your family were assaulted and threaten what would you do...? It doesn't take an idiot to figure out why he is doing this! I hope that by writing your malicious comments makes you feel better and you can sleep at night! Just hope that you and your family will never have to experience what your poisonous tongues have done to this man and some others, hopefully if you have any dignity and respect left for you and humanity you can figure this one out! Just remember, what goes around around comes around! Everything you pay here, in this lifetime!!! All I feel for you is shame and compassion because you have no idea what love really means, your hearts are only full of hate! Some of us would have more respect for your points of views, if you could only be capable of having a civil discourse, but instead your irrational actions and behaviors (starting from your legislators and leaders) has taken all your credibility of anything that could remotely make any sense! You people have sunk to the lowest level there is! SHAME ON YOU!!! I just feel like crying my heart out for this once great nation of ours and what conservatives have done!

Posted by: jl2010 | April 9, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Stupak enjoy your peace of mind with your loved ones! May God bless you!

Posted by: midas20874
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His decision will haunt him for the rest of his life. He will live with a tormented mind.

Posted by: leapin | April 9, 2010 5:56 PM | Report abuse

The great enemy of clear language is insincerity. When there is a gap between one's real and one's declared aims, one turns, as it were instinctively, to long words and exhausted idioms, like a cuttlefish spurting out ink." - George Orwell.

There have always been demagogues like Obama. Some people see clearly what they are - some never do. Still others come to know what the Obamas of this world are, but just refuse to admit, even to themselves, that they have been so thoroughly suckered.


Posted by: leapin | April 9, 2010 5:53 PM | Report abuse

I suspect 'comrade zero' as in 'zero IQ' is perhaps king of zouk in another guise, he of 'Model Mayhem' fame.

Ahh, now I see dawd has reached the same conclusion.

Posted by: drindl | April 9, 2010 5:48 PM | Report abuse

Congressman Stupak is an hero. He is strong and courageous. Unfortunately, indecent people with mob rule inclinations and no respect for legally constituted authorities cannot see through what is decent and what is noble.

Imagine what an idiot of RNC communications spokesman said of him that after "selling his soul to Pelosi..." This is the same RNC whose leadership sold their own souls and minds to go and pervertly see nude women at a strip club recently.

Mr. Stupak enjoy your peace of mind with your loved ones! May God bless you!

Posted by: midas20874 | April 9, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

It should also be noted that when asked by Stephanopoulos about the latest round of vicious personal insults directed at him by Ahmadinejad, Obama responded with his stereotypical cool and merely spoke about “unproductive” remarks. Indeed, the worst thing Obama could say about the Iranian was to compare him with Sarah Palin, whose spot-on criticism of the administration’s nuclear policy he dismissed with contempt.

A man who doesn’t see much of a distinction between a domestic political opponent and a Holocaust-denying anti-Semitic tyrant is missing a moral compass. But then again, this is the same person who has chosen to wage diplomatic war on Israel while engaging Iran and appeasing Russia.

Posted by: Comrade_Zero | April 9, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

I went to go look up the "great depression" again, and read through the steps they did to try to "fix" it. Funny how many of those things sound familiar. What is up for question on the "great depression" that I have is: "The stock market turned upward in early 1930, returning to early 1929 levels by April" - so would it have been over by then, or did the "Crash of 1929" add to this? or maybe was "a severe drought ravaged the agricultural heartland of the USA beginning in the summer of 1930" part of the "Great Depression".

So, if we take today from the same structure, we must surely still be in our "great depression II"?

Posted by: gjconely | April 9, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

DDAWD, all the idiots are gathered on the other thread. you will feel much more at home there.

Posted by: Comrade_Zero | April 9, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

I was thinking of the Savings and Loans crisis and the Energy Crisis depressions.

Posted by: gjconely


Seems like you could indeed use some help.

Posted by: Comrade_Zero | April 9, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Comrade_Zero - I really don't need your help here, especially when you talk as much nonsense as they do.

Posted by: gjconely | April 9, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Today Jake is yachting,
not blogging.

Posted by: shrink2 | April 9, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

JRM2 - ya, that was my bad, I was thinking of the Savings and Loans crisis and the Energy Crisis depressions.

Posted by: gjconely | April 9, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

gjconely

we have also been saved from numerous Martian invasions.

thank, God. I mean The One, of course.

Posted by: Comrade_Zero | April 9, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Com Zero is more into "photography" than jake

Posted by: DDAWD | April 9, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse

@ gjconely-The last great depression lasted almost seven years.

Posted by: JRM2 | April 9, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Palin shot back in her comments Friday, mocking the president for "the vast nuclear experience that he acquired as a community organizer." She said that his alleged experience had not helped him make progress in the issue with Iran and North Korea.


"If this ain't the biggest fairy tale I've ever seen."


What we need is a president, not an athlete," Gingrich said during a question and answer period after his speech. He added: "Shooting three point shots may be clever, but it doesn't put anybody to work."

I don't think anyone who saw him throw out the first pitch would mistake him for an athlete.

Posted by: Comrade_Zero | April 9, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Thing is about health care

a) Unlike airlines for example, the industry is fat as a market goose, there are oodles of money lying around, wasted - this could be turned into profit if anyone ever decides efficiency is good.
b) The industry is so huge and diverse, it can't be compared to any other, one sector might be getting killed while another is making a killing even if the the whole show is a zero sum, which it won't be...
c) because people have to buy it and buy it and buy it. They can scrimp and save all they want with old cars and no flying, but on the whole, America is going to buy health care, much more health care.

Now on the other hand, once the tipping point to socialized medicine is passed and I believe that will happen, it'll be a bad place for equity investors, surely.

Posted by: shrink2 | April 9, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

BlueTwo1 wrote "It is interesting that typical right wing commentator herein believes the bank and insurance company bailouts were part of a left wing plan to bankrupt the country."

- Well, when the fascist playbook says you need these things to happen to help your agenda, and that you should "not let a crises go to waste", what do you expect most rational people to believe? Or is it that we are even interested in these, and that we should just ignore everything, that is really bugging you guys?

Now, I am not saying that they completely created the "crisis", but by what I see on youtube videos, they didn't seem to do too much about it in the past.

And then you state "Perhaps the alternative Great Depression II would be more to your liking. All your stocks, bonds, and bank accounts wiped out. Your job gone. Banks closed. No economic activity today, tomorrow, next year, or ten years from now." - Where is the proof that this was going to happen? Is it right next to the "keep unemployment less than 8%" proof they used?

And lets say that this "great depression" occurred, would it have been worse than the last one? I believe the last one only lasted like 12 months or so, but what month are we into on this one?

Posted by: gjconely | April 9, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Good Afternoon Teenage Trotskyites and Bulimic Bolsheviks -

What part of the American Revolution is it that you don't understand?

But like Michelle your Belle you have never liked your country.

Posted by: leapin | April 9, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Stupak was a phony who had no principles. When he was called to stand for something, he stood for nothing. He is also a coward not wanting to answer to the people he deceived. What a shameful legacy for someone who was in Congress for 18 years. He was a spineless gutless wonder to not stand up against evil. He betrayed not only those who could not speak for themselves but he threw away our freedoms in this massive expensive invasive health care takeover. Don't let the door hit you on the behind on your cowardly retreat.

Posted by: greatgran1 | April 9, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the confirmation, Jake.

It be you. (Tea-bonics)

Posted by: broadwayjoe | April 9, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Broadway - all the idiots are gathering on the OTHER thread.

Please comply.

Posted by: Comrade_Zero | April 9, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Next week a few more Liberals will decline to run for reelection, further entrenching the notion that divided and sane government is returning.

this will cause continued momentum up in the market. most of the market that is. auto, airlines and health are doomed due to government intervention.

Posted by: Comrade_Zero | April 9, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice were.....

{Incoherent junk in the middle omitted]

Posted by: Comrade_Zero | April 9, 2010 3:46 PM
______________

Just shortened it up a bit. All the best, Jake, er, "Comrade Zero."

Posted by: broadwayjoe | April 9, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

"...time to dump the health care stocks Shrink..."

Trust me...finger is on that button,
politics/schmallitics, its just business.

12B, yeah what a day, I figured the S&P couldn't get to 1200 before the Dow got to 11k, but the 11k barrier fell today as far as I am concerned. When the S&P gets over its psych hump, the risk of a big correction drops. So, good for another week. But I don't think the jobs come back for a long time, maybe a very long time.

Posted by: shrink2 | April 9, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

JoeT1,

Two books which might inform you more on the subject are “Generation Me” and “The Narcissism Epidemic: Living in the Age of Entitlement” by Jean Twenge.

Posted by: sliowa1 | April 9, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

You really are as dumb as a post aren't you broadway?

Posted by: Comrade_Zero | April 9, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Is "Comrade" JakeD/JakeD2?

Posted by: broadwayjoe | April 9, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

time to dump the health care stocks Shrink. Quick, before anyone reads the new law. you know, the one that outlaws profit.

Posted by: Comrade_Zero | April 9, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

@shrink,

Strong close on Dow & S/P, particularly because it's a Friday. This is the little engine who "can".

Posted by: 12BarBlues | April 9, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

There goes another Democrat who lacked the courage of his convictions. Good riddance. Democrat and convictions? That's an oxymoron.

Posted by: mhr614 | April 9, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

JoeT1,

“Like raise daughters with enough self-esteem not to get pregnant. Raise sons who don't think it's cool to find a girl with low self esteem who will have sex with them. Insist that schools teach those messages.”

While you maybe an expert in Hospital Law, your analysis of low self esteem is way off. In reality, it is the girls or boys who think highly of themselves that typically engage in risky sex it is not the wall flower as you make it our to be. We are a narcissistic society and much of it has been due to our educational system that teaches us to have an unhealthy amount of self esteem. This is why our kids think they do well on test but in reality score near the bottom, while the low self esteemed Koreans think they do terribly but knock our socks off. I encourage you to actually read about the subject rather than spout and preach the subject with little knowledge or information. I think you and the Right both have that in common.

Posted by: sliowa1 | April 9, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

It is interesting that typical right wing commentator herein believes the bank and insurance company bailouts were part of a left wing plan to bankrupt the country. This, of course, follows from ignorance. The financial wizards drank their own Kool-Aid and invested in AAA-rated securitized versions of the junk mortgage loans that they were buying. They invested in hedges that were supposed to pay off in the event the loans went south, which they promptly did, on account of realized counter-party risk. That's where the insurance company that contracted to pay in the event of default has gone broke and therefore cannot pay. Had the government intruded adequately in the markets to ensure that counter-party risk never exceeded a safe level, the bailouts would have been unnecessary. But the government is supposedly incapable of doing anything correctly. So that was out of the question. Perhaps the alternative Great Depression II would be more to your liking. All your stocks, bonds, and bank accounts wiped out. Your job gone. Banks closed. No economic activity today, tomorrow, next year, or ten years from now. Better than government intrusion into the free-market.

Posted by: BlueTwo1 | April 9, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Even Mao Would Say, 'Hey, Pal, Leave Them Wanting More'

Since becoming president, Obama has appeared on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno and The Late Show with David Letterman, taped a question-and-answer promoting Conan O'Brien's transition to The Tonight Show, taped a promotion for George Lopez, taped a video for The Colbert Report, taped a prime-time special with Oprah, been the subject of an NBC News prime-time special, been the subject of an HBO documentary, grilled with Food Network star Bobby Flay, popped up in commercials during Thanksgiving football, and filled out his NCAA basketball tournament picks on ESPN and now, American Idol. (Again.)

And he "would love" to appear on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart.

One of my favorite subjects of Jay Nordlinger's writing is the rapid destruction of "politics-free zones" in American life. We're also rapidly losing any corner of American culture where Dear Leader doesn't pop up. He's making Taylor Swift look obscure.

Again, note that the only time Obama didn't show up on our televisions was the three days after somebody tried to blow up a plane over Detroit

Posted by: Comrade_Zero | April 9, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Another age old incumbent bites the dust, and yet another shot emerges for Republicans to pick up yet another House seat. It will now be Surgeon Dan Benishek vs. Saltonstall, the woman who was Stupek before he decided against reelection. Good opportunity for Republicans and for Benishek.

Posted by: reason5 | April 9, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

If Bawney Fwank Is
Wetiring, We'll Know Soon

A candidate ending his campaign a little early isn't always big news, but I find it interesting that Dave Sukoff says he was encouraged by Massachusetts Republicans to run in the state's 4th District, against Bawney Fwank, in light of the rumors that Fwank is thinking about retiring. Sukoff had been running against Rep. John Tierney in the 6th District.

I would note that if Fwank is indeed retiring, we should hear a lot more buzz between now and the May 4 filing deadline. The only other Democrat currently on the ballot is a LaRouchie. Fwank is way too loyal a Democrat to leave his party without a strong candidate as his successor, so my guess is we'll hear about some state legislator getting his campaign set up in the coming weeks.


http://twitter.com/IngrahamAngle/statuses/11881486919

Posted by: Comrade_Zero | April 9, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

7 points in 7 minutes?
C'mon everybody, buy, buy, buy!

Posted by: shrink2 | April 9, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Interestingly, Bart was one of the better Democrats...not saying much...

Posted by: billbrann | April 9, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice were not paradigms of racial equality, as we once assumed. The new correct protocol of unity and togetherness is not to ignore race but to accentuate difference whenever possible. Thus we have a uniter and his flock talking of a “typical white person,” of white country folk who “cling” to their fears and superstitions, of “cowards” who refuse to discuss racial matters, of a “wise Latina,” of police who “stereotype” and act “stupidly,” and of polluters and high-school mass-murderers identified as typically “white.”

In place of real civil-rights marches, we have psychodramas where congressmen wade into a crowd of protestors in search of a televised slur. To this president, the tea-partiers are sexually slurred “tea-baggers,” in his Manichean worldview of opponents to whom we are “to get in their faces” and “bring a gun” to their knife fight — all as we praise “unity,” “bipartisanship,” and “working across the aisle.”


I used to think that old-stand nations like Britain, Canada, the Czech Republic, France, Germany, Israel, Norway, and Poland were our natural friends by virtue of a shared Western heritage and values, commitment to constitutional government, and acknowledgment of a distinguished intellectual history. Today their leaders are to be snubbed, ignored, or lectured; we are unsure only whether their sin is post-imperialism, post-colonialism — or pro-Americanism.

In contrast, more revolutionary states that bore America ill will, and certainly despised George W. Bush, must ipsis factis have been onto something — and therefore can be courted. Iran, the Palestinians, Russia, Syria, and Venezuela are, at worst, misunderstood. At best, their strong leaders are somewhat sympathetic for their prior opposition to much of what America has done and stood for.

The watchdog media have become a house kitten that purrs rather than barks at such radical change. Mass assemblies — so common in protests against wars during the last decades — are now racist and subversive. Grass-roots political expression like talk radio and cable TV is in need of government-enforced fairness. Hollywood no longer produces movies like the anti-war, anti-administration Redacted and Rendition; Knopf no longer publishes novels like Checkpoint; and there are, we may be thankful, no longer docudramas about shooting presidents — the latter would be both unpatriotic and clearly defined as hate speech. Filibusters are not traditional ways of checking Senate excess; the “nuclear option” is now a slur for legitimate majority legislative rule; and recess appointments don’t thwart the legislature’s will but resist its tyranny.

-VDH

Posted by: Comrade_Zero | April 9, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Hey Comrade_Zero,

I agree with everything you say except for your first paragraph. Go figure! :)

Posted by: celestun100 | April 9, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

The Stupak haters are starting to repeat themselves, so I will say again, good job, Bart. Enjoy your retirement and I hope you are blasting, "Take this Job and shove It"

Posted by: celestun100 | April 9, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Nonetheless, until now we had not in the postwar era seen a true man of the Left who was committed to changing America into a truly liberal state. Indeed, had Barack Obama run on the agenda he actually implemented during his first year in office — “Elect me and I shall appoint worthies like Craig Becker, Anita Dunn, and Van Jones; stimulate the economy through a $1.7-trillion annual deficit; take over health care, the auto industry, student loans, and insurance; push for amnesty for illegal aliens and cap-and-trade; and reach out to Iran, Russia, Syria, and Venezuela” — he would have been laughed out of Iowa.


The whole notion of capital and debt has changed — mostly on the issue of culpability. Buying too much house at too high interest is the bank’s fault. Not being able to pay a debt is certainly negotiable and most certainly nothing to feel bad about. Maxing out credit cards and getting caught with high interest is proof of corporate malfeasance. Cash in the bank earns little, if any, interest. Owing lots of money costs little, and it does not necessarily have to be paid back, if one is able to stake a persuasive claim against “them.”
The reaction to a hated and greedy Wall Street is now to be an omnipotent, all-wise, and all-caring state technocracy. Today there is nothing so simplistic as the actual “unemployment rate”; “jobs saved” by government borrowing is the better barometer of who is actually working and who is not. A $200-billion shortfall is a “deficit”; a trillion-dollar one is “stimulus.”

Not purchasing a cheap catastrophic-health-care plan is quite understandable. The Department of Motor Vehicles, Amtrak, and the Postal Service are models of what good government can do. Social Security and Medicare are not unsustainable or insolvent; those loaded adjectives are simply constructs of a wealthy class unwilling to pay the taxes needed to fund them.

Worrying about the deficit or national debt is a neurotic tic. Why fret, when millions in the oppressing class have enough money to eliminate these problems whenever we acquire the backbone to make them pay what they owe us? We are in a them/us, winners/losers zero-sum age, one in which a forever static pie must have its finite slices radically reapportioned.

Posted by: Comrade_Zero | April 9, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

I don't blame him. The violent rhetoric of the Right Wing has a lot of people concerned for their safety.

Posted by: unpluggedboodah | April 9, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

"...Stupak and Nelson who really hurt their causes by trying to get special deals..."

The other side never hurts politicians nearly as badly as that person in the mirror.

Cronyism not socialism, fascism, etc. is what really threatens liberty. I suppose the pay-to-play corruption of crony politics might be what the right talks about when they rant about statism, if so, I agree.

China is a one party crony capitalist state, we are a two party crony capitalist state. Who is to blame? We are. Unlike China, we could actually insist on transparency and all that good squeaky clean stuff.

But we just don't care when our side does it. Cheney secretly meeting with oil and coal interests to create "our nation's" energy policy, or war for that matter, is no different from Obama getting with health care business interests and unions to write the Health Care Industry Stimulus bill.

Posted by: shrink2 | April 9, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

"Comrade_Zero wrote: I am endlessly amused by the rage and dissappointment exhibited by liberals when others do certain things."

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Are yous SURE you're talking about LIBERALS?? This sounds like the pages and pages we have been reading from the sour grapes' Republicans (which some people believe to be all 'conservatives'!"

Posted by: Maerzie | April 9, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Here is the latest URL for the mentioned renting-scandal from Rachel Maddow:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/vp/36293413#36293413

Posted by: Nelia | April 9, 2010 3:28 PM | Report abuse

IMPEACH OBAMA


What about the rumored $100,000,000.00 his district got for "medical research?"

WaPo, did anyone investigate?

DID ANYONE READ THE BILL????

I talked to a friend of Bart's yesterday at the Doo Drop Inn in Gay, Mich. I said I hoped he'd leave, after the SHAMEFUL way that he INCREASED taxes on WORKING PEOPLE, to a FOOL who could not WAIT for THINKING.

NEXT -- the other 40 STEAL-O-CRATS in non-DUMBoCRAT districts. And Pelosi GONE as speaker.

IMPEACH OBAMA FOR LYING & STEALING!!!

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So what's he gonna be? Ambassador? Cabinet secretary? Acorn lobbyist?

He was paid off with something. I guess we'll just have to wait until February or so and see.

Posted by: russpoter | April 9, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Stevens will retire in late June or early July. Obama will name a successor after that and then the fight begins. I fully expect Obama to go full-liberal and pick a hard lefty for the post. If the fight continues until late August or even into September, Bennet and Specter are going to have to choose between further ticking off the electorate and displeasing The One.


Independent voters in the states with an open seat are going to see the party in power once again going full left with another vote, which may increase their desire for a divided government. So a lot of them will decide to take a chance on the Republican candidate for that seat. As an added bonus, imagine what Ben Nelson must be thinking.


Leans Dem - WI Feingold (D)

Leans Repub - AR Lincoln (d)
IN - Open (d)
KY -Open (R)
NV Reid (d)
NH Open (r)
Nc Burr (r)

toss up
CA Boxer (d)
CO Bennett (d)
IL Open (d)
MO Open (R)
OH Open (R)
PA Specter (D)

Looks like a pick up of 7 to me.

Posted by: Comrade_Zero | April 9, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

The rats are leaving the sinking ship of crazy pelosi, dirty harry and their teleprompter-reading figurehead! Given their massively unpopular, extremist positions and actions, the lunatic-left d-crat socialists up for re-election in 2010 have only two choices: resign or be thrown out of office by patriotic Americans. Given their nature, most of the loonies will, like dodd, bayh and dorgan -and now stupak-take the cowards way out and resign.

Posted by: TeaPartyPatriot | April 9, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

I have read these comments, and they represent silly, crazy comments. Teabaggers are not all out of work; many are physicians, hairdressers, retired folks, school teachers, nurses--from all walks of life. Working hard, daily.

Rep.Stupak is retiring and I wish him well. As far as his ideas on abortion I think those who have a great need for one can make their decision. It is the law of the land. Its crazy to try to force religious beliefs on others, and even crazier to get on a public scroll and write nasty notes about such a personal decision. I am a mental health specialist and those who do this need help.

Posted by: drzimmern1 | April 9, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

I have read these comments, and they represent silly, crazy comments. Teabaggers are not all out of work; many are physicians, hairdressers, retired folks, school teachers, nurses--from all walks of life. Working hard, daily.

Rep.Stupak is retiring and I wish him well. As far as his ideas on abortion I think those who have a great need for one can make their decision. It is the law of the land. Its crazy to try to force religious beliefs on others, and even crazier to get on a public scroll and write nasty notes about such a personal decision. I am a mental health specialist and those who do this need help.

Posted by: drzimmern1 | April 9, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Well, I do not know how fast the Ethics-Committee starts investigations, but how about the subsidised rent, that Stupak paid for years and years an C-Street?

He did not report it as a gift, did not mention it to the tax offices...

Sure this resignation is about abortion, healthcare?

Check MSNBC, The Rachel Maddow Show. Sounds like very good reasons for a very quick reaction from Stupak to me...

Posted by: Nelia | April 9, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Another rat abandons the the sinking ship. A very very vile rat. A baby killing rat. And now a coward.

Hey Stupid Party, still think everybody is going to thank you for the health care debacle?

Posted by: jimd3 | April 9, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Surprise, Surprise......another coward running to spend more time with his family. All the time knowing that he's gonna get his ASS KICKED in the mid-term elections.....maybe he and his other coward friends, will be able to get SPINE transplants from all there welfare friends, that we the tax payers support...they don't use their spines either.....they just lay around and draw free handouts....STUPAK....you're a spineless loser....and you deserve every BAD thing that happens to you!

Posted by: tonto4ever | April 9, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

To Beingsensible,
I have not read much of what is in these posts, but noticed your concerns about the Tea Party members.

Actually, from my observation, and the many I know who have attended the "parties", many are senior citizens, at-home moms, and I know a few men who have had to go part-time due to business cut backs.

What I can tell you is that the people I know are not the media described "ferocious, volatile, or disrespectful" people that media and their ilk would like for you to believe.

Just my two-cents. I'm a grandma, retired teacher, and busy with household projects, but I follow the political scene carefully.
If I had time, I would love to join a couple of the party get togethers. It's a good cause.

I think the Stupak situation says a lot about the underhandedness of this administration. The unforgivable is that it was promised to be "different" -- not more corrupt, unethical, and dismissive of taxpayers.

Posted by: pjcafe | April 9, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Ultimately, most of the squishy Libs in competative districts are doomed. the election this fall will seal their fate quite nicely.

the ending of the war brings out the kamikazis for Emperor Hirohito (aka Dear Reader)

they can either save some face by retiring early or they can go down in flames by standing at the polls and being summarily rejected by the voters.

The people are rising up in the streets and proclaiming NO! to socialism.

Posted by: Comrade_Zero | April 9, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

I see Drudge linked here again.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | April 9, 2010 9:25 AM
________________

A recent article in the Columbia Journalism Review called out this blog as a Drudge "imitator" and "emulator" so that's not surprising. Sad.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | April 9, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2010/04/health-care_reforms_biggest_lo.html

On people like Stupak and Nelson who really hurt their causes by trying to get special deals using high profile strategies.

Posted by: DDAWD | April 9, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

I was tying to look up what percentage of "teabaggers" where unemployed, and I thought of one thing. After doing some searching on Google, all I can do is find stuff talking about the looser, stupid, morons, slobs and freaks that the "teabaggers" are, it makes me wonder, who is filling the air with "hate speech"? And this makes me wonder, could this "hate speech" be prosecuted on since technically "teabaggers" could be considered a minority?

Posted by: gjconely | April 9, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Shows there is no room for decency in Washington.

You can retire in peace Bart. You did the proper thing.

Posted by: MHawke | April 9, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

I sense a source of idiocy creeping into this thread.

Posted by: Comrade_Zero | April 9, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Stupek puts our country trillions and trillions of dollars in further debt and then runs for cover by back out and not figuring how everyone is going to pay for this. I call this being chicken.

Posted by: 45upnorth | April 9, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

I am endlessly amused by the rage and dissappointment exhibited by liberals when others do certain things.

Unless the others are also liberals.

Posted by: Comrade_Zero | April 9, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

"The damage is already done" is really the quote of the year - because once Obama went far to the left - decided to abandon any bipartisan efforts - he cooked all the democrats in competitive districts.

And then after the election of Scott Brown, Obama doubled up and lost again -

Obama has made life impossible for the centrist democrats - and many democrats are going to wonder what happened.

The damage is already done.

The way that Obama went after so many democrats with threats and intimidation - this was way out of bounds - and Stupak is now voting with his feet.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 9, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

zomg, comrade_zero is a completely new poster who doesn't troll for girls on the internet!!11!1

Posted by: DDAWD | April 9, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Beingsensible - First, I want factual data, or a link to, not just what the "media portrays". Are you saying the the media is indead Fact?

Posted by: gjconely | April 9, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

One of Zouk's alter egos quoting without attribution again? Say it isn't so!

Posted by: JakeD3 | April 9, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

I predict Stupak will be working in Washington for Obama in the not to distant future.
What a sellout.
It seems to be contagious in Washington.

Posted by: rickyv | April 9, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

I predict Stupak will be working in Washington for Obama in the not to distant future.
What a sellout.
It seems to be contagious in Washington.

Posted by: rickyv | April 9, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Beingsensible - As most liberals, won't answer questions, just go off talking trash.

Posted by: gjconely | April 9, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Beingsensible "And most of the teabaggers don't have jobs" - where did you discover these facts, or are you just talking out of the side of your mouth again?

Posted by: gjconely
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Was that a question, or one of your group think talking points introduced by your leader Rush or Sarah "the Pitt Bull in lipstick" Palin? And to your second "question", basically every conclusion can be derived by a survey...what's the most frequently stated fact about teabaggers when reported in print or media news? It always starts with "Jane Doe or Joe the Plummer headed out early this morning in route to "fill in the blank wherever the Pitt Bull is spewing" to join the "rally"; he/she lost his/her job as a "fill in any assembly line type of job" and has been living on unemployment compensation for the past 2 years." What working class person has time to roam around the country during working hours spewing hate? Question answered...

Posted by: Beingsensible | April 9, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

did anyone notice how much more interesting this blog is when it is not monopolized by the usual crowd of leftist idiots?

It seems not having the ability to be the absolute center of attention scares them away.

Kind of like Dear Reader.

Posted by: Comrade_Zero | April 9, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

It was either "retire" voluntarily or be summarily fired by the voters. Stupak showed himself to be craven and beholden to Pelosi. He had no honor or morals at the end of the day. He got a payoff and someone should make sure none of the bribe money goes into his pockets.

Good riddance to a liar.

Posted by: bandmom22 | April 9, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Q Will the S&P gain 10 points in the last hour today?

A No.

Will it before the end of April?
Absolutely.

Posted by: shrink2 | April 9, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

BYE BYE BART

YOU WON'T BE MISSED.

Posted by: DIVEMAN | April 9, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

JoeT: You should heed the old saying that it is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and be proved one.

You say you're a lawyer, and you call others idiots, yet it is you that does not understand the Hyde Amendment and it's [lack of] application to health care.

The Hyde Amendment *ONLY* applies to DHHS appropriations, nowhere else. Since the new legislation establishes its own funding, separate from DHHS, the Hyde Amendment isn't applicable. While you are correct that abortion is not specifically called out as funded by healthcare, that's not material. As long as an abortion is considered a medical procedure there is absolutely no impediment to it being funded by the new legislation.

I suggest you are the one who needs to read up on the subject. You might start with the relevant Congressional Research Service memos, one of which reads in part:

"In summary, Section 207 of H.R. 3200 creates a Health Insurance Exchange Trust Fund, appropriates amounts to the Fund, and requires payments from the Fund. If enacted, all of these actions would be authorized without any further legislative action, such as a further appropriation in a subsequent act."

You might also consider that the Federal government already funds abortions via money that does not flow through DHHS appropriations.

FYI, I am not an anti-abortion fanatic, nor am I pro-abortion. I'm one of those stuck in the middle where I think abortion is basically a bad idea, but I think governmental involvement in such an intensely personal issue is a worse idea, and I'm not about to substitute my opinion for a woman's when I cannot possibly know her situation as well as she can.

I'm also one who thinks we are in desperate need of health care reform. I just don't think this bag of tripe is going to improve health care, while I do think it will significantly hurt our children financially.

Mostly I'm fed up with both parties, since I think virtually everything that has been said about health care by either side is either an outright lie or distorted beyond recognition.

Posted by: m1903a4 | April 9, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Beingsensible - As most liberals, won't answer questions, just go off talking trash.

Posted by: gjconely | April 9, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Beingsensible "And most of the teabaggers don't have jobs" - where did you discover these facts, or are you just talking out of the side of your mouth again?

Posted by: gjconely | April 9, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Beingsensible - if I am a dumb uneducated redneck, why is it that I don't have to spout off for 15 minutes and never answer a simple question? Why, if I am so stupid, that I don't go saying that my husbands home country is Kenya?
Posted by: gjconely
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I'm I'll take...because no one is going to ask your dumba.s.s a question stupid...for $200 please, LOL!!!!!

Posted by: Beingsensible | April 9, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

"Now you tell me."

Sorry, this annoying job I have keeps getting in the way of checking in on The Fix.
I'll try to do better.

Posted by: shrink2 | April 9, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Funny thing about the tea party, I cannot picture any of them drinking tea, can you?

Posted by: celestun100
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Beer...and cheap beer at that, LOL...Those teabags are donated. And most of the teabaggers don't have jobs; so they most likely don't have healthcare unless they are getting it through Medicade or Medicare...so they are protesting against their own interest--and probably don't even know it, LOL. Here's the thing, the reason they are complaining about having to pay for healthcare is because they've been getting it free for so long. Hey teabaggers; if you like your free healthcare...you can keep it, LOL!!!

Posted by: Beingsensible | April 9, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Just so you know,
Comrade_Zero is Zouk/Moonbat
and etc.

Posted by: shrink2 | April 9, 2010 2:12 PM
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Now you tell me. That explains a lot.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | April 9, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse

"I doubt anyone is seriously blaming the Democrats for the fall of the auto industry."

I do! I think John Dingell and his cronies, wife, etc. had lots to do with the fall of the American auto industry.

Posted by: shrink2 | April 9, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Beer...and cheap beer at that, LOL...those teabags are donated, LOL...

Posted by: Beingsensible | April 9, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Stupak, the flaming traitorous coward. Run away, Bart,run.

Posted by: annclaire | April 9, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Just so you know,
Comrade_Zero is Zouk/Moonbat
and etc.

Posted by: shrink2 | April 9, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Stupak, the flaming traitorous coward. Run, Bart,run.

Posted by: annclaire | April 9, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Beingsensible - if I am a dumb uneducated redneck, why is it that I don't have to spout off for 15 minutes and never answer a simple question? Why, if I am so stupid, that I don't go saying that my husbands home country is Kenya?

Posted by: gjconely | April 9, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Despite the impression that Comrade is a prolific writer

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I just read what they put in the teleprompter. I actually have no original thoughts or ideas of my own.

Posted by: Comrade_Zero | April 9, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

When liberals are confronted with facts, that obviously destroy their fantasy world, they try to wriggle out with any sort of character assassination they can - racism, violence, name calling, anything to change the subject.

It's not working any more Progressives. the tea party is growing and your days are numbered. Enjoy fiddling while Amerika burns. you will enjoy the wilderness. you can commune with wolves and polar bears, if there are any left by then.

Posted by: Comrade_Zero | April 9, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Simple fact check please: You missed an opportunity to describe accurately the First Congressional District of Michigan. You report Rep. Stupak's seat "takes in much of Northern Michigan's Upper Peninsula." In fact it includes the entire Upper Peninsula and much of the northern portion of the Lower Peninsula of Michigan.

Posted by: foleyh | April 9, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse

OK, now let's see what bribes were given for Stupak's vote. Stay Tuned...

Posted by: mikeglossy | April 9, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse


The ninth ring of Hell is reserved for betrayers like Judas, Marcus Brutus, and Bart Stupak.

Posted by: screwjob11 | April 9, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

More DemoRat NEWS the Compost refuses to print!

GINGRICH: Obama 'most radical president ever'...

LIMBAUGH: Obama 'inflicting untold damage on this great country'...

PALIN: Obama's Nuke Stance Like Kid Who Says 'Punch Me in Face'...

LIZ CHENEY: Obama Putting America on 'Path to Decline'...

HANNITY: Obama 'Is a Socialist'...

SAVAGE: 'Obama The Destroyer'.

Redneck
Posted by: EducatedRedneck01
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I love this post, LOLLOLLOLLOL! Typical thinking of a dumb a.s.s (un)educated Redneck, LMAO...Are you friggin' kidding; so these idiots say and it becomes true, LMAO...since when???!!! Put all of these idiots in a pile, tye them up with you and Obama still has 99.5% of his educational knowleged to compare somewhere else, LMAO. You teabeggers are the funniest things since...since...well since forever, LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Beingsensible | April 9, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse

The left loves to hide. This is why leftists reject the label "liberal" in favor of "progressive" or some other meaningless term. This is also why leftists must describe their opponents as the "hard right" or "right-wing extremists," rather than simply respond to the serious policy issues their opponents raise.

Soon Democrats will face directly an electorate that sees right through them. All the procedural tricks and side deals slavered onto a legislative sandwich with thousands of slices fool only the hopelessly prostituted minions of the left. Ordinary people grasp the awfulness of vast legislation pushed through Congress without a single Republican vote and before members of Congress could feel the full dragon's breath of constituent fury. The left was never more naked than in the crass spectacle last month.


Truth, courage, and honor have led conservatives through long campaigns against the dying leftist establishment. Much of this work simply involved exposing the left for what it is, and now it is the Naked Left -- having nothing worth wanting, as everyone can now see.

Posted by: Comrade_Zero | April 9, 2010 1:46 PM
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Actually written by Bruce Walker
http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/04/the_naked_left.html

Despite the impression that Comrade is a prolific writer, the truth is that he is a prolific plagiarizer. It takes a lot less time, we understand, but why would anyone react to your comments when they aren't YOUR comments?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | April 9, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

drindl - All you would love for us to just roll over and take it. To bad, we are not. You want to talk about a waste of money. Who really cares about 100 million dollars protecting our national interest and standards, when we can spend billions of dollars to help pay for people to get new cars?

Posted by: gjconely | April 9, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Michigan was doing quite well in the 90's and before Jennifer Granholm they had a Republican governor. Over half the state has always been Republican. Detroit is pretty Democratic. I doubt anyone is seriously blaming the Democrats for the fall of the auto industry.

Posted by: celestun100 | April 9, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

another deadbeat bagger:

'The elderly mother of Gregory Giusti, the man who is charged with making threats against Speaker Nancy Pelosi, is partially blaming Fox News for radicalizing her son.

"Greg has -- frequently gets in with a group of people that have really radical ideas and that are not consistent with myself or the rest of the family and -- which gets him into problems," said Eleanor Giusti, 83, in an interview with ABC 7. "And apparently I would say this must be another one that somehow he's gotten onto either by -- I'd say Fox News or all of those that are really radical, and he -- that's where he comes from."

ABC 7 also reported that Giusti has a criminal record for petty crimes including evading train fare. '

Posted by: drindl | April 9, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

12BarBlues


interesting you come up with that - and you are not employed by the DNC, OFA, or any other democratic group just to post on here.????

Posted by: 37thand0street | April 9, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

HOW COVERT U.S. 'OPS' DEAL WITH POLITICAL 'DISSIDENTS?'

VIC LIVINGSTON REPORTS: "Heinous directed energy weapon "no-touch" microwave torture on extrajudicially 'targeted' American citizens."

ATTENTION JOHN BRENNAN / DENNIS BLAIR: READ FIRST-PERSON ACCOUNT OF WHAT YOUR PROGRAMS HAVE DONE...

See latest comments:

http://nowpublic.com/world/u-s-govt-uses-cbs-news-cover-microwave-cell-tower-torture
http://nowpublic.com/world/u-s-silently-tortures-americans-cell-tower-microwaves
nowpublic.com/world/gestapo-usa-govt-funded-vigilante-network-terrorizes-america OR NowPublic.com/scrivener

Posted by: scrivener50 | April 9, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Comrade Zero wrote

The Obama administration’s “answer” to the nation’s fiscal crisis is a commission to address the problem of debt. A commission! And one established by executive order because the Senate rejected the idea!

The notion that, in the face of this reality, the Democrat-controlled Congress would create an expanded Medicare entitlement, adding millions to its rolls while slashing a half trillion from its funds (taking over one sixth of the nation’s economy) is so astonishingly stupid it defies belief.


It’s not like Americans don’t know how serious the problem is. They showed up at town hall meetings last summer. They showed up in the hundreds of thousands in Washington, D.C. last September. Thousands attended a huge Tea Party rally in Searchlight, Nevada last month.

The problem is that children are in charge in Congress. The problem is also that a child, abandoned by his birth father, then by his step-father, and finally by his mother, is president.

I am all for representative democracy in the conduct of our republic, but like millions of Americans I am baffled by our inability to have any impact whatever on those currently holding political power in Congress; the Democrats. It is cold comfort that we must wait until November 2, 2010 to rid ourselves of them.

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Actually, the problem is that Comrade Zero did NOT write this. It was written by Alan Caruba
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/21812

There's nothing wrong with quoting another writer, but one gives credit to the writer. Otherwise, we might have been fooled that these words were YOUR thoughts. Anyone who wants to discuss Mr. Caruba's comments should go to the web site of the Canada Free Press.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | April 9, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

drindl


There are legitimate questions about the interstate commerce clause.


None of the lawsuits are frivolous.


Please note I said "interstate commerce" instead of "commerce" because it is "interstate commerce." All other powers are reserved to the States, or to the People.

Get it ?

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 9, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Stupak is a coward.

Posted by: johnfchick1 | April 9, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Crazy a.s.s teabeggers causing all of our leaders to throw their hands up in exaperation of their foolishness. Man I wish one of them would spit on me...I'd beat the holy sh!t our them, LOL...

Posted by: Beingsensible | April 9, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

comrade zero is certainly apt. seems to be unemeployed.

Posted by: drindl | April 9, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Michigan has trusted largely the Democratic Party for years and people are sick of politicians saying they stand for something then caving when it is convenient. Especially in a state that has been depressed economically for nearly 30 years compared to othe parts of the country. Stupak's district did receive money for its airports, but it won't change the plight of his constituents. It will be interesting to see where he goes or if he gets a job as an ambassador or something.

Posted by: star_key2 | April 9, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

gjconely

well, maybe historically the Republicans do. But I don't see the Republicans of today as fiscally conservative at all. Do they even care about a state like Michigan? I mean, the whole auto industry took a major blow and the Republicans didn't want to help people with Health Care, forclosures or jobs. I can't predict how it will play out in Michigan, but I think the Republicans may be in trouble because of the racist/confederate image they are giving themselves. On the other hand, you have the Michigan Militia trying to overthrow the government in southern Michigan, so who knows? I am just saying that I don't think the Michigan election is going to boil down to the abortion question this time. They are hurting economically.

Posted by: celestun100 | April 9, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Amazing, Rep. Stupak was in US Congress for (18)Eighteen years and still did not learn anything about the Constitution. Obviously, he voted for a Healthcare Reform Bill that is Unconstitutional. He said that he has been working to get a Healthcare Reform bill for (18)Eighteen years. If all he could come up with, is this Sick Reform Bill, after all these years is very sad.
If this Sick Healthcare Bill is what he sold his Soul for, it is a sad state of affairs.
What a Blessing for America that Stupak has resigned from Congress.
America needs a few more Blessings such as this resignation and have a few hundred more resign from Congress due their incompetence.

Posted by: Logic3 | April 9, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse


LOL LOL

More DemoRat NEWS the Compost refuses to print!

GINGRICH: Obama 'most radical president ever'...

LIMBAUGH: Obama 'inflicting untold damage on this great country'...

PALIN: Obama's Nuke Stance Like Kid Who Says 'Punch Me in Face'...

LIZ CHENEY: Obama Putting America on 'Path to Decline'...

HANNITY: Obama 'Is a Socialist'...

SAVAGE: 'Obama The Destroyer'.

Haaaaaa, ha ha ha ha ha! I simply cannot stop laughing as I watch the Obama follwers dropping like the flies they truly are.

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What the heck? A bunch of high school dropouts and ideologues with stupid opinions being CITED? Huh? Educated...I doubt it. Educated people demand evaluation and documentation of position.

Anyway, Stupak's biggest sin is that he failed to read the Democratic Party Platform which specifically focuses on affirming a woman's right to choose. If he has personal opinions about that, he could use Bill Clinton's mantra on-point: "Abortion should be safe, legal and RARE." Or Mario Cuomo who personally decries abortion but is wise enough to leave it to the people to make up their own minds in accordance with the law of the land. Those people are Democrats.

Posted by: BobfromLI | April 9, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Comrade Zero


You left out this: when the left knows it has nothing of substance to support their positions, they start to personally attack the other side.


Take the health care program - instead of defending the high taxes and massive government program, Obama and crew decided they were going to start to falsely call everyone racists.

That is the way they are doing it now.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 9, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

It is time for Bart Stupak to leave, Personally I believe there should be term limits on all offices, city state and federal, Politians being elected repeatedly to the same job begin to feel they are irreplaceable, they forget what it is like to live what we call a normal life.
They become members of the select elite group who feel they must tell everyone else what they should do. It doesn’t matter whether they are a democrat or a republican; it happens to all of them, the best way the keep the government for the people and by the people is to change the people in government. That would be real change!!! We should elect people who are like us, share our concerns, and are willing to sacrifice their time and families to help our nation, not people who are simply hungry for power and glory, people who have strong principles and who will not vote for a bill if they don’t believe in the principle of it.
As far as Glen Beck is concerned, I can only say one thing for him, he backs up everything he says, with recordings and video of what he reports, he doesn’t put words in other people’s mouths, he reports what they actually say and do, as I see it he is giving people enough rope and they do themselves in we can sit back and watch them catch themselves in the webs they weave.

Posted by: jel6x | April 9, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

"Yesterday, ThinkProgress reported that nearly 70 percent of the state officials suing the federal government over the constitutionality of the health care reform law are either running for re-election or gunning for higher office. Even conservative legal scholars have said these lawsuits have no chance in succeeding and appear to be nothing more than political theater.

Gov. Tim Pawlenty (R-MN) — a prospective candidate for the GOP nomination for president in 2012 — has said recently that he would join the lawsuit despite the misgivings of Minnesota’s attorney general. But last night on Fox News, Pawlenty himself admitted that the lawsuit is political in nature:

VAN SUSTEREN: It doesn’t sort of escape me that the people who have filed are all Republicans, with the sole exception of the attorney general in Louisiana is a Democrat. I think he’s probably the only — is he the only Democrat who has joined this?

PAWLENTY: As far as I know. You know, of course, there’s probably some political overtones to it."

No sh*t, sister. Taxpayers foot the bill for frivolous lawsuits that can't win so that R politicians can showboat.

Posted by: drindl | April 9, 2010 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Does now this mean death threats work to influence elected officials?

Posted by: LoveConquersFear2 | April 9, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

The left loves to hide. This is why leftists reject the label "liberal" in favor of "progressive" or some other meaningless term. This is also why leftists must describe their opponents as the "hard right" or "right-wing extremists," rather than simply respond to the serious policy issues their opponents raise.

Soon Democrats will face directly an electorate that sees right through them. All the procedural tricks and side deals slavered onto a legislative sandwich with thousands of slices fool only the hopelessly prostituted minions of the left. Ordinary people grasp the awfulness of vast legislation pushed through Congress without a single Republican vote and before members of Congress could feel the full dragon's breath of constituent fury. The left was never more naked than in the crass spectacle last month.


Truth, courage, and honor have led conservatives through long campaigns against the dying leftist establishment. Much of this work simply involved exposing the left for what it is, and now it is the Naked Left -- having nothing worth wanting, as everyone can now see.

Posted by: Comrade_Zero | April 9, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

celestun100 - you say "But, the unemployed already know that the Republicans aren't going to do anything for them."
- um, who has a history of creating more jobs? republicans or democrats? and I don't mean "government jobs" on that calculation.

Posted by: gjconely | April 9, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Why should we vote Republican in 2010?

The Tea Parties want HCR repealed. Republicans have no intention of repealing the healthcare bill, and they are admitting it now. John Cornyn and Bob Corker, as well as Republican candidates are backing away from a repeal.

Reports the Associated Press: "Top Republicans are increasingly worried that GOP candidates this fall might be burned by a fire that's roaring through the conservative base: demand for the repeal of President Barack Obama's new health care law."

Conservative writer James Antle, in the American Spectator, reports with disgust that the R's are backing away from repeal. He concludes:

"The Republican Party will simply be the saucer that cools the Tea Party. Cooler heads will have prevailed -- and so will have liberalism".

http://spectator.org/archives/2010/04/08/republicans-against-repeal

Posted by: 12BarBlues | April 9, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Who wouldn't think twice about quitting a job where any drooling ignoramus can scream "Baby-Killer!" or "You Lie!" with impunity ... and then use their ranting to raise campaign funds?

Posted by: HughBriss | April 9, 2010 1:42 PM | Report abuse

The Democrats problem in Michigan is not going to be abortion. They screwed up there when the banks got a big bail out and the auto companies were left to go bankrupt. they still have a huge recession. Until something is done about that, both parties might be in trouble. But, the unemployed already know that the Republicans aren't going to do anything for them.

Posted by: celestun100 | April 9, 2010 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Why should we vote Republican in 2010?

The Tea Parties want HCR repealed. Republicans have no intention of repealing the healthcare bill, and they are admitting it now. John Cornyn and Bob Corker, as well as Republican candidates are backing away from a repeal.

Reports the Associated Press: "Top Republicans are increasingly worried that GOP candidates this fall might be burned by a fire that's roaring through the conservative base: demand for the repeal of President Barack Obama's new health care law."

Conservative writer James Antle, in the American Spectator, reports with disgust that the R's are backing away from repeal. He concludes:

"The Republican Party will simply be the saucer that cools the Tea Party. Cooler heads will have prevailed -- and so will have liberalism".

http://spectator.org/archives/2010/04/08/republicans-against-repeal

Posted by: 12BarBlues | April 9, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Dear Bart Stupidpack,
I hope your children and grandchildren suffer as much as the rest of us when they need jobs and retirement benefits. I am sure they will recieve free abortion expenses from your hard work though.

Posted by: jcdooley | April 9, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

The Obama administration’s “answer” to the nation’s fiscal crisis is a commission to address the problem of debt. A commission! And one established by executive order because the Senate rejected the idea!

The notion that, in the face of this reality, the Democrat-controlled Congress would create an expanded Medicare entitlement, adding millions to its rolls while slashing a half trillion from its funds (taking over one sixth of the nation’s economy) is so astonishingly stupid it defies belief.


It’s not like Americans don’t know how serious the problem is. They showed up at town hall meetings last summer. They showed up in the hundreds of thousands in Washington, D.C. last September. Thousands attended a huge Tea Party rally in Searchlight, Nevada last month.

The problem is that children are in charge in Congress. The problem is also that a child, abandoned by his birth father, then by his step-father, and finally by his mother, is president.

I am all for representative democracy in the conduct of our republic, but like millions of Americans I am baffled by our inability to have any impact whatever on those currently holding political power in Congress; the Democrats. It is cold comfort that we must wait until November 2, 2010 to rid ourselves of them.

Posted by: Comrade_Zero | April 9, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

One less democRAT in Congress come next term. Looks like Pig Pelosi is going to have to travel in the "coach" section, with all those citizens she looks down upon with her smug liberal elitist attitude.

LIBERALISM....AMERICA'S WEAKEST LINK!

Posted by: cschotta1 | April 9, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse

The whole Michigan election is going to be about who is perceived as providing more jobs to the state. Abortion or not is not going to be the deciding factor. If either party wants to do well there, they will have to talk about jobs.

Posted by: celestun100 | April 9, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Nate Silver of 538.com today rejiggers his assessment of the midterm elections to reflect a bunch of new numbers that show Republicans with a bigger edge in the generic ballot.If Republicans outperformed generic-ballot ratings, as they usually do, Silver projects a worst-case scenario for Democrats of 79 seats in the House switching from blue to red based on the surveys of Rasmussen Reports.Silver puts the more likely scenario at 51 seats going to the GOP -- 11 more than they need to take over the majority.

Posted by: Comrade_Zero | April 9, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

celestun100 - Nah, I prefer coffee over tea, but that still doesn't mean I don't like to teabag facists :)

Posted by: gjconely | April 9, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

He's like Don Cheech. Though a disappointment to the 'family', he performed a valuable service at the end and so is going to be allowed to exit gracefully rather than have to face the wrath of the People in November.

Posted by: dumpbama | April 9, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

As noted earlier, the contemptible Bart Stupak will slither away rather than face the wrath of the voters he betrayed. Here's how the left is trying to spin the situation:

Rep. Bart Stupak (D-MI) plans to announce his retirement today, Democrats briefed on his decision said. Stupak, the leader of a pro-life faction within his party, had received death threats and was under intense political pressure after he agreed to support the Democratic health care reform legislation even though pro-life groups insisted that it would allow federal funds to be used for abortion.

Liberals are pushing this absurd meme for all they're worth. Stupak is a victim and therefore in the right. Those evil right-wingers who don't believe in preventing unwanted babies from oppressing the polar bears with their carbon emissions made him run away and hide.

If only everyone in the government who has ever received an angry message from a crank would retire, we might get the federal leviathan scaled down to an appropriate size.

Having ostentatiously presented himself as pro-life, Stupak knew all along that conservative northern Michigan voters would never forgive his outrageous treachery — that if he voted for this lurch into tyrannical moonbattery, his Congressional career was over. He didn't just sell his vote. He sold his seat in Congress.

What will he be getting in return? If only we had journalists curious enough to find out

Posted by: Comrade_Zero | April 9, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

There are no hat groups involved here, just stupid decisions and their consequences.

Stupak voted against the will of his constituents and sold his political soul for a worthless Executive Order.

Posted by: pielusztcontractor | April 9, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

the Obama Pad

http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/checker.aspx?v=XdkUSUQu2G


they tell you how it works after you buy.

Posted by: Comrade_Zero | April 9, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Yes, I'm sure he's exhausted. I'm sure he wants to spend time with his family. I am absolutely confident that it has nothing to do with the prospect of a fierce re-election battle that he likely wouldn't survive, and if he did, just barely.

Bayh said it best, if the Massachusetts election didn't wake Democrats up, nothing short of significant losses in November will.

Restore the balance, vote GOP!!

Posted by: conservativemaverick | April 9, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Whoever replaces Mr. Stupak, I hope that person knows the essential difference between a fetus and a human baby.

Posted by: francis4 | April 9, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Israel has been on the receiving end of copious disrespect from the U.S. since B. Hussein Obama assumed command. So you can't blame Israeli PM Netanyahu from wanting to dish out a little payback.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has canceled a planned trip to Washington next week to take part in President Barack Obama's 47-country nuclear security summit conference.
Israel is believed to be the only nuclear-armed power in the Middle East but has never confirmed or denied that it possesses atomic weapons. It has not signed the nuclear non-proliferation treaty (NPT).
Chairman Zero's summit will amount to no more than another chance for Dear Leader to show weakness to our enemies. Netanyahu is not only the last remaining world leader with a true moral compass. He's also the only international leader with the balls to stand up to Obama's self-destructive tendencies regarding his Carteresque nuclear weapons policy. The current United States regime is barely worthy of being called Israel's ally

Posted by: Comrade_Zero | April 9, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Stupak did not quit in the middle of his term. He is planning to retire at the end of his term. Palin quit in the middle. There is quite a difference.

Posted by: celestun100 | April 9, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Funny thing about the tea party, I cannot picture any of them drinking tea, can you?

Posted by: celestun100 | April 9, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Now you plainly see what happens to a politician that lies to their constituents and the American people. He always intended to vote for this. The proof was the worthless executive order. The law has no such restriction, another less publicized executive order can change this.

Stupak thought his constituents were too stupid too understand what happened. This announcement proves it.

The really funny part is that up until he caved, he was against the bill, so all the calls and harassment before that time would have been lefties, not the tea party.

I am sure that Stupak really does want to just stay at home with his wife. I also have a bridge on Brooklyn for sale.

Posted by: thelaw1
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no, sir, you are too stupid to recognize the lies you have been fed, and that you are mindlessly repeating. The health reform law does not fund abortion, so there was nothing to restrict. Hyde is the law of the land already, so there would be no need to repeat in the health reform bill the Hyde restrictions on funding that isn't there anyway. The EO isn't worthless, and can't be rescinded because it doesn't do anything but tell agencies to follow Hyde to the letter in implementing health reform. He can't issue an EO telling them to violate Hyde, because, as you keep repeating stupidly, an EO can't trump a law. Hyde was the law and remains the law, and the EO just reminds us of that. The bill doesn't repeal Hyde or fund abortion, and there's nothing in it that the EO is attempting to trump in the first place.

When will you pro life types stop lying? It does nothing to advance your cause. You sound like lunatics and birthers. Stupak could have proposed the death penalty for having an abortion and you would still be attacking him if he voted for health reform. Even Dr. Laura agrees that the pro life crowd should quite whining about Roe and actually do something to reduce abortion. Like raise daughters with enough self-esteem not to get pregnant. Raise sons who don't think it's cool to find a girl with low self esteem who will have sex with them. Insist that schools teach those messages. Demand that pastors create an environment in which pregnant teens won't be condemned, and in which parishioners won't shun them. Be parents who won't disown them. Create social programs that enable girls to have their children and still get educations and jobs. In short, change the equation facing the pregnant teen so that the prospect of having the child isn't so threatening that abortion is even entertained as an option.

Posted by: JoeT1 | April 9, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

VirginiaConservative writes:

"What was the socialist mantra about Palin quitting??????"

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Palin QUIT. Resigned. Abandoned her office mid-term.

Stupak is not running for re-election.

And the mantra is - don't QUIT the job that you were elected to do, simply because it's getting difficult. That's a pretty accurate rephrasing of the reason why she walked away from her elected post.

And this is someone looked up to by many in the US? How do they explain that to their kids, I wonder.

Posted by: iamweaver | April 9, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse


Can the tea parties claim victory over Stupak? Vote

http://www.youpolls.com/default.asp

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Posted by: usadblake | April 9, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

In 1948 strom Thurmond ran for POTUS as a Dixicrat the predecessors today's Gop that texican and the cessionist-nullification Perry party has morphed in to and currently worships at . Read your history of the 1950s.

Posted by: leichtman1 | April 9, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

More proof that Botox rots the brain as Nanny Rictus Botox describes the wonders of her health care bill.


"It's like the back of the refrigerator. You see all these wires and the rest. All you need to know is, you open the door. The light goes on."

Spoken truly like someone who has never had to buy a refrigerator for herself, let alone clean, stock, and maintain one. She has servants to do that, and she thinks that's how it should work for everybody else.

Also, only a complete freakin' idiot would go bankrupt buying a new refrigerator that doesn't work any better than his old refrigerator... but that's the caliber of the dumbasses running Washington these days.

Posted by: Comrade_Zero | April 9, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Stupak was not grandstanding. That is not even done in northern Michigan. He was actually, really concerned about abortion as a Catholic, but knew that his constituents needed the Health Care Reform. Anyone saying he is grandstanding, right wing or left wing just doesn't get it. Conservative on social issues in Michigan midstream Catholicism means you're pro-life and pro help out those who have less.

You also don't brag or draw attention to yourself unnecessarily up there. It's the culture. Your actions prove who you are, not your words.

Obviously, I'm generalizing here, but the culture up there is not like the Washington culture.

Posted by: celestun100 | April 9, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Rep. Bart Stupak should retire. He thumbed his nose at his constituents and caved in when his avowed principles were threatened. He probably can't look anyone in the eye yet.

Posted by: thehamptons1 | April 9, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Anyone know the amount of taxpayer money he'll take with him, and how long he'll be sucking off the taxpayer? What other perks will we be paying for?

Posted by: JAH3 | April 9, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

@drindl

I agree with you. Good point. The fact that people are exulting in the driving out of a good person speaks volumes about politics today.

Posted by: celestun100 | April 9, 2010 1:01 PM
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I also agree. I am a prolife Democrat. I respect Bart Stupak for his stand and his vigilance. I'm sorry he's leaving.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | April 9, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Michigan, our Great Lakes State, is a beautiful place to live...so, go fishing and enjoy family and friends...thanks to all who serve in Congress. Life is short, why not face it and enjoy it while still young?

Posted by: judithclaire1939 | April 9, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

I predict Obama will nominate Leah Ward Sears to the Supreme Court.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 9, 2010 1:04 PM | Report abuse

i feel sorry for all the dimwits who actually watch beck -- they're such dupes.


'With a deadpan, Beck insists that he is not political: "I could give a flying crap about the political process." Making money, on the other hand, is to be taken very seriously, and controversy is its own coinage. "We're an entertainment company," Beck says. He has managed to monetize virtually everything that comes out of his mouth.

[BIG snip]

"I don't necessarily believe that [what Beck says] is reflective of his own personal politics--I don't even know if he has personal politics," says Michael Harrison, publisher of Talkers, a trade magazine devoted to talk radio. "I see him as a performer.""

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2010/0426/entertainment-fox-news-simon-schuster-glenn-beck-inc.html'

Posted by: drindl | April 9, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Update: Laura Ingraham and Byron York just reported that insiders on Capitol Hill are rumoring that Banking Queen Barney Frank may also be retiring. He may take a position on the board of a bank.

Posted by: Comrade_Zero

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Great news for America...bad news for the bank...

Posted by: Straightline | April 9, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Not so fast says George Stephanopoulos:

Whatever you think of Sarah Palin, she’s a former VP candidate — and a potential challenger to President Obama — with a strong following in the GOP. She made a pointed critique of a new Presidential policy. By getting the President’s response, I was doing my job.

but he didn't get the Present ident's response. He got the usual non response from Dear Reader.

In fact, comrade chairman Zero has no idea what he is doing.

Posted by: Comrade_Zero | April 9, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

@drindl

I agree with you. Good point. The fact that people are exulting in the driving out of a good person speaks volumes about politics today.

Posted by: celestun100 | April 9, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

'Much is being made of President Obama's dismissal of George Stephanopoulos' question about Sarah Palin's criticism of the New START treaty, but let's face it -- that was as easy as swatting a fly. The really important question was asked by Steve Benen at The Washington Monthy:

... why is George Stephanopoulos using an idiotic quote from a dimwitted former half-term governor of a small state as the basis for a question to the president?

In effect, the "GMA" host was saying, "Some conspicuously unintelligent right-wing media personality said something stupid about a subject she knows nothing about. Mr. President, how do you respond?"'

Posted by: drindl | April 9, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Update: Laura Ingraham and Byron York just reported that insiders on Capitol Hill are rumoring that Banking Queen Barney Frank may also be retiring. He may take a position on the board of a bank.

Posted by: Comrade_Zero | April 9, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

@Comrade_Zero

In case you didn't notice, Palin's response was un-Christian!!! The exact opposite of what Christ would have done.

Obama knows that governments with nuclear arms are not kids fighting on a playground and it takes a little more finesse to deal with them.

Posted by: celestun100 | April 9, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

The bribe for his vote on HCR must have been even better than the worthless piece of paper Obama signed for him. Revel in your short lived rule Democrats, the party is over in 7 months.

Posted by: kitzdakat | April 9, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Glad to see him go. Maybe he'll donate his retirement $$ to homes with/for unwanted children or women's shelters!! We should all get his retirement package-including his health care benefits-What a jerk!!

Posted by: lsf07 | April 9, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

"bullying and ugliness that drives people like Stupak out."

they bullying and ugliness is, as always, coming from wingers.

Posted by: drindl | April 9, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Drindl - I thought I was supposed to be rude and hateful and write things like what you just posted?

Hey Joe, since you know all about it, will you answer me these?

1. How much does Medicare\Medicaid reimburse the hospital for someone coming in and just being "sick"? No surgery, just some antibiotic prescription and say 5 hours of bed time?

2. How much does it cost me and my insurance company if I was to do the exact same?

3. What is the average cost to the hospital, including doctor and staff cost for this above visit?

Posted by: gjconely | April 9, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Imagine the scenario: Hundreds of thousands are lying dead in the streets of Boston after a massive anthrax or nerve gas attack. The president immediately calls in the lawyers to determine whether the attacking state is in compliance with the NPT. If it turns out that the attacker is up to date with its latest IAEA inspections, well, it gets immunity from nuclear retaliation. (Our response is then restricted to bullets, bombs and other conventional munitions.)
However, if the lawyers tell the president that the attacking state is NPT-noncompliant, we are free to blow the bastards to nuclear kingdom come.
This is quite insane. It's like saying that if a terrorist deliberately uses his car to mow down a hundred people waiting at a bus stop, the decision as to whether he gets (a) hanged or (b) 100 hours of community service hinges entirely on whether his car had passed emissions inspections.

Posted by: Comrade_Zero | April 9, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

The Republican Party can only run campaigns on lies - there is no federal funding of abortions in ObamaCare.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
There is in the law, as it did not include the Hyde amendment language. What you have mistakenly included in the law is the worthless executive order that cannot trump a law. In fact, the opposite is true. A law trumps an executive order. The executive order was the feint that got Stupak and the other Democrats to vote for the take over bill. Those Democrats will lose or not run this November as they see their poll numbers and hear from constituents.

Posted by: thelaw1
________________________
I am a lawyer, and you are utterly misguided. The health law bill does not fund abortion just because Hyde amendment language isn't in it. A bill that doesn't fund abortion doesn't fund abortion, period. Hyde is the law, and it doesn't need to be repeated in every law to remain so. Since it is the law, and the health reform bill doesn't fund abortion or repeal Hyde, the EO doesn't have to trump anything to be effective. It simply directs executive agencies to obey Hyde to the letter in implementing health reform, if that wasn't clear enough to begin with. There's nothing to rescind, since that's already the law.

learn something about the bill, the Hyde amendment, or for that matter, anything, before you post trash.

Posted by: JoeT1 | April 9, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

So,looks like Silly Sissy Chrissy needs to
make a small correction here,as the fact remains that the Socialist Democrat Liberal
Obamacrats aka Democratic Party will not be able to hold on to any seats up for
re-election or election in 2010 and 2012,
as the Democrats are in the last throes,
prior to becoming extinct totally in 2012!

Posted by: redheadclaudine | April 9, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

leichtman1 says whaaaa, whaaa your just a racist cause your from Texas and us libtards know your bad racists in Texas Whaaaaaaaa

Right, what party did Wallace belong to? (Democrat and many other racist politicians in those days not the republicans who faught against these deomcrats) Why was the Republican Party founded? (to free the slaves) Which party has keep the Black folks on the Government tit and the Government Plantation? (hint- democrat libtards) Get your facts straight you racist commie pinko liberal race baiter!

Posted by: Texican911 | April 9, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

The thin-skinned president got rattled yesterday when George Snuffleupagus mentioned Sarah Palin's criticism of his policy of unilateral nuclear disarmament, saying it was like a kid on a playground who says 'punch me in the face, I'm not going to retaliate.'


"I really have no response to that. The last I checked, Sarah Palin is not much of an expert on nuclear issues," Obama said in an interview with ABC News.

As if a community organizer knows so much more about nuclear policy than the former governor of the state in which a significant portion of our nuclear deterrent is based. Anyway, I think what Sarah Palin said isn't based on any kind of pointy-headed analysis of nuclear disarmament strategy, but out of common sense --- something the pissy little twerp in the Oval Office knows nothing about.

Does anyone besides me remember the debate with Hillary in 2008 when the question came up, "How would you respond to a WMD attack against an American city?" And Obama babbled on and on about FEMA without ever once mentioning retataliation?

Posted by: Comrade_Zero | April 9, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

leichtman1 says whaaaa, whaaa your just a racist cause your from Texas and us libtards know your bad racists in Texas Whaaaaaaaa

Right, what party did Wallace belong to? (Democrat and many other racist politicians in those days not the republicans who faught against these deomcrats) Why was the Republican Party founded? (to free the slaves) Which party has keep the Black folks on the Government tit and the Government Plantation? (hint- democrat libtards) Get your facts straight you racist commie pinko liberal race batter!

Posted by: Texican911 | April 9, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Stupak was headed for a bruising fight with his core constituency the next election and likely would have lost anyway. He emerged as the leader of the pro-life Democrats, and then abandoned the cause at the 11th hour for a promise that can be revoked at any time in the future. He didn't have the support to win, so retirement and a nice, cushy kickback job from the Chicago Machine running the White House is the safest bet for maintaining his income.

Posted by: douglascoombs | April 9, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

I doubt he is getting anything from OBama

More likely the C-streeters like Coburn, Ensign and the other PREACHY CHRISTIAN HATERS promised him something. Or maybe they refused to subsidize his rent at C-street anymore. Or maybe COBURN refused to give STUPAKs wife free ob/gyn appointments

Posted by: racerdoc | April 9, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

I also love the way, in true Michigan style, you made your decision during the State game!! Way to go, Bart! Michigan loves you! Michigan State does too!!!

Posted by: celestun100 | April 9, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Could we please stop talking about the endless failures and surrenders of modern liberalism? Back off the policy and legislation.

We simply must get back to pointing out all the faux racism and violence instead. Democrats don't have a prayer any other way.

Posted by: Comrade_Zero | April 9, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Amazing!

They claimed that MOST of America wanted the health care take-over, and YET, they all know that many of their rears are OUT after November's elections!

haha...

Oh, I hope my congresswoman, Louise Slaughter is one of them!

Debra J.M. Smith
of
InformingChristians.com

Posted by: DebraJMSmith | April 9, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

"The will of the People is being ignored,"

ROFLOL. Hilarious. the will of wingers is being ignored -- and wtf cares? you lost the election, losers. but you are whiny babies and can't bear to lose, can you?

Shut up, stop whining and suck it up.

Posted by: drindl | April 9, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

'you are being told to take responsibility for the cost of your own health care by buying insurance so that you don't stick other people with the bill when the paramedics take you to the hospital with a heart attack. that's called individual responsibility, and I thought it was a conservative value."

Send me my bill, and I'll pay it.
Send me your bill, and I'll consider paying for it.
Tell me to pay your bill or I'll be fined, and I'll vote every last one of you out.'

typical weasel R mindset -- i'll only pay the bills i feel like, only obey the laws i like.

every one of them a deadbeat. too bad we can't import them all to afghanistan.

Posted by: drindl
____________________________
if you want to post a bond to assure me that you can afford all your bills as an alternative to buying insurance, that would be acceptable, otherwise your promise is worthless. do you know what a visit to an ER with a heart attack costs?

you aren't being fined for not paying my bill. just for not buying insurance to pay for yours.

read the bill. and I am a hospital attorney, just so you know I know what I am talking about. you don't have a clue what's in the bill or how it works.

Posted by: JoeT1 | April 9, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

The idea that Bart Stupak's retirement is such a big deal to the Tea Partiers or the Republicans or whatever these Stupak-haters call themselves is absurd. Have any of you ever even been to Northern Michigan? The idea that you are painting him out to be some sort of radical is nothing short of hilarious!!!LOL

Again, Good job, Bart! You deserve a great retirement with your family in beautiful Northern Michigan. Screw politics! I hope you are listening to "Take This Job and Shove It" as I write this.

Posted by: celestun100 | April 9, 2010 12:48 PM | Report abuse

God is Watching us from a distance
Everyday we pray that man will stop
destroying himself, that he might empower himself with truth, faith and honesty. As we see so many babies being destroyed, as we see so many evil people attack people like Bristol, with their demonic and vileness, we must ask, what kind of people do these deeds? Saddness and even extreme pain fills our hearts our souls, as we see our leaders engage in pure greed and lustful power, One day we will all have to answer to our Creator. Yes one day, you can run but you can't hide!

Posted by: boski66 | April 9, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Why don't those two hoe-mongoring slimeballs (Ensign and Vitter) retired...Oh that's right...All those old southern white people that are the 23% of the republican party base called....Teabaggers....are soaked in the brain and don't mind have their wives been cheated on while they tout their horn....Family values!

The Republican Party needs to learn to keep their wee-wees in their pants and only brought out in the companies of their wives!

REPUBLICANS ARE GOING DOWN IN NOVEMBER...

LOOKING FOR NEW CANDIDATES....I HEAR THE GOP ARE LOOKING FOR NEW BLOOD?

CHECK OUT THE NEW EDITION OF PLAYBOY

Posted by: dove369 | April 9, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

...........and the DemocRATS continue to flee the sinking ship !!!

Posted by: thgirbla | April 9, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

texican we are well aware of your racist, cessionist,nullification Rebel Flag waiving crowd down here in Texas If the racist shoe fits then proudly wear it we are used to it.

Posted by: leichtman1 | April 9, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

RichRable (post @ April 9, 2010 12:29 PM) provides a good, clear summary of this whole episode... without vitriol, hysteria or partisan rubbish.

I think Rich is exactly right. Stupak was grandstanding, and it backfired. He was hoist on his own petard!

Posted by: Observer44 | April 9, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse

"bullying and ugliness that drives people like Stupak out."

and Bayh

From Pelosi and Reid.

you got that right Komrade.

Posted by: Comrade_Zero | April 9, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Any victim of our Great Divider-in-Chief.

Obama is tearing America and his Party apart........

The will of the People is being ignored, and that's not a good thing.

Posted by: allenridge | April 9, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Now you plainly see what happens to a politician that lies to their constituents and the American people. He always intended to vote for this. The proof was the worthless executive order. The law has no such restriction, another less publicized executive order can change this.

Stupak thought his constituents were too stupid too understand what happened. This announcement proves it.

The really funny part is that up until he caved, he was against the bill, so all the calls and harassment before that time would have been lefties, not the tea party.

I am sure that Stupak really does want to just stay at home with his wife. I also have a bridge on Brooklyn for sale.

Posted by: thelaw1 | April 9, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

If anything he was a moderate democrat. Not to the left, why does everybody hate Bart Stupak? How bizarre!!

Posted by: celestun100 | April 9, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

You really have to wonder about the state of politics in the US when a guy like Bart Stupak ignites all this animosity from both sides.

Good job Bart Stupak. You did what you thought was right and your constituents will benefit.

Posted by: celestun100 | April 9, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

How is Willies comment about going to Kenya a racists statement?

Posted by: gjconely | April 9, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Bart who?

Posted by: dove369 | April 9, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Glad he is gone. But let's give credit where credit is due, Obama's strong arming a bad HCR bill is the cause of this. The Tea Party folks only pointed out that Stupak acted "stupidly".

Need more of these guys to retire and be gone.

Posted by: asdf9876 | April 9, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Was he really crying? Why? He'll have health care for life after sticking the rest of us with extra taxes for life.

Anyone remember when the Democrats were promising us the same health care plan as they had -- and then, everyone of them turned down an ammendment requiring them to abide by the same plan that they stuck us with!

He deserves the distain of all Americans.

Posted by: joe59 | April 9, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Was he really crying? Why? He'll have health care for life after sticking the rest of us with extra taxes for life.

Anyone remember when the Democrats were promising us the same health care plan as they had -- and then, everyone of them turned down an ammendment requiring them to abide by the same plan that they stuck us with!

He deserves the distain of all Americans.

Posted by: joe59 | April 9, 2010 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Willie is the kind of guy from his racist post that would encourage spitting on and using the n word against Congressmen he disagrees with . It's nice to know that radical racism is alive and well with the GOP. Welcome back to the 1050s Willie, hoses and dogs next?

Posted by: leichtman1 | April 9, 2010 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Whaaaa, whaaaa, It looks like the Radical Right is here in mass today. ooh there so mean..or really I guess you haven't listened to the left lately calling us racists.. right have a cup of shut up

Posted by: Texican911 | April 9, 2010 12:33 PM | Report abuse

drindl - where did I lie there? And there it is said that we have no "values" as "conservatives"? Or that we have to run on a campaign of lies?

Posted by: gjconely | April 9, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Guilty Conscious, If he has one, after his Vote for Obamacare, his career was over anyway!

Posted by: morphy | April 9, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

There's an awful lot of disproportionate, violent and hate-filled language here today.

This isn't the way you talk about a centrist elected to public office for 18 years. We don't talk about Hitler and Stalin in this way.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | April 9, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Stupak created a 'no-win' situation for himself when he decided to pursue his unnecessary anti-abortion language.

Now, the anti-choice people are all over him for giving up his resistance to the health bill over unnecessary anti-abortion language.

The progressives are upset that he pursued unnecessary language when there is already existing law in place, and it only served to temporarily make him in demand for media interviews, while delaying the health care reform bill.

If his grandstanding served any purpose, you could at least admire his stand on principles, but his stand was unnecessary as there is already existing law in place.

So now, pretty much everybody is upset with him and he brought it on himself.

Lastly, it is amazing and disappointing to me how many misinformed people have a PC and web-access and continue to make silly and incorrect statments based upon their desire to tell others how to make important personal decisions.

Posted by: RichRable | April 9, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

It looks like the Radical Right is here in mass today. It is whack job uncivil comments like those posted here the bullying and ugliness that drives people like Stupak out. Would serve the radical right fittingly if Stupak ends up being replaced by a pro choice moderate. Not even Rs are pure enough for the Radical Right.

Posted by: leichtman1 | April 9, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

IT won't be long untill you will have to go to KENYA to find a democrat....

Posted by: willieshort | April 9, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse

IT won't be long untill you will have to go to KENYA to find a democrat....

Posted by: willieshort | April 9, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse

joe --- as you can see from today's postings, 'conservatives' have no 'values.' all they value is hatred and violence.

Posted by: drindl | April 9, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

The Republican Party can only run campaigns on lies - there is no federal funding of abortions in ObamaCare.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
There is in the law, as it did not include the Hyde amendment language. What you have mistakenly included in the law is the worthless executive order that cannot trump a law. In fact, the opposite is true. A law trumps an executive order. The executive order was the feint that got Stupak and the other Democrats to vote for the take over bill. Those Democrats will lose or not run this November as they see their poll numbers and hear from constituents.

Posted by: thelaw1 | April 9, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Obama made a major miscalculation. He "called" Stupak and asked him not to retire.

He should have had the unprincipled jerk whisked back to Washington, met him at Andrews, strong-armed him onto Air Force One and took him for a little plane ride. Unprincipled minds seems to quickly change once Obama has 'em in the air.

Posted by: JAH3 | April 9, 2010 12:19 PM | Report abuse


'
drindl - maybe it will be reported that he is a democrat, just like the guy flying his plane into the IRS building and the "christian militia" guy who was arrested for wanting to blow up cops.'

everything that comes out of you people's mouths is a lie. you don't even know what truth is because all you listen to is your fascist propaganda on fox.

Posted by: drindl | April 9, 2010 12:19 PM | Report abuse

The Democrats and Pres. Obama did what the people ELECTED them to do - pass health care reform. Woohoo!

But don't worry, Teabaggers - you still get ObamaCare benefits that you would have never received via Republicans.

Posted by: angie12106 | April 9, 2010 12:18 PM | Report abuse

'you are being told to take responsibility for the cost of your own health care by buying insurance so that you don't stick other people with the bill when the paramedics take you to the hospital with a heart attack. that's called individual responsibility, and I thought it was a conservative value."

Send me my bill, and I'll pay it.
Send me your bill, and I'll consider paying for it.
Tell me to pay your bill or I'll be fined, and I'll vote every last one of you out.'

typical weasel R mindset -- i'll only pay the bills i feel like, only obey the laws i like.

every one of them a deadbeat. too bad we can't import them all to afghanistan.

Posted by: drindl | April 9, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

To the pro-life right and their rips on Stupak, the vitriol that you extend to this man who stood alongside you all for years is astounding.
This shows the absurdity of using abortion as a voting issue. Stupak voted for people who actually struggle every day with health issues with their families. There should be S-CHIP for every american child, regardless of their parents' income. Ask you pro-life representative how they come down on that issue and you will most likely hear that they really don't care for children that much, just the opportunism of the abortion debate. Many on the right voted against giving S-CHIP to middle class families, saying that they made too much money to receive such an entitlement. However they stand and deliver to deny millions health insurance to save the unborn from funding language. What a crock!
Each and every one of you casting aspersions and death threats on this guy should remember to "judge not lest ye be judged". The selling your soul to the devil comments are very harsh. Passion is a good motivator in politics, but without reason to balance the policies, all you really have is hatred.

Posted by: ripper368 | April 9, 2010 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Oh well, the first casualty of Obamacare!

Look at Mass. to see what these guys have imposed upon us.

Posted by: thelaw1 | April 9, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Now, if we can only get that other liar (Obama) out of office.

Posted by: rg019571 | April 9, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

The Republican Party can only run campaigns on lies - there is no federal funding of abortions in ObamaCare.
But try telling that to Righties who are addicted to infotainment on Fox and Frightwing radio.
lol

Posted by: angie12106 | April 9, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse


I predict Obama will nominate Leah Ward Sears to the Supreme Court.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 9, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

This is only the beginning. Members of Congress are finally going to realize who put them in Washington: THE PEOPLE!

Posted by: georges2 | April 9, 2010 12:10 PM | Report abuse

"you are being told to take responsibility for the cost of your own health care by buying insurance so that you don't stick other people with the bill when the paramedics take you to the hospital with a heart attack. that's called individual responsibility, and I thought it was a conservative value."

Send me my bill, and I'll pay it.
Send me your bill, and I'll consider paying for it.
Tell me to pay your bill or I'll be fined, and I'll vote every last one of you out.

Posted by: cprferry | April 9, 2010 12:08 PM | Report abuse

I'll bet cash money the slime ball was promised a super cushy job for seven digits. Will the Post follow him in his next career? Not!

Posted by: djudge1 | April 9, 2010 12:08 PM | Report abuse

He is such a spineless coward, he can't even take the humiliation of defeat that he knows was coming his way.

Posted by: 2Canadians | April 9, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse

drindl - maybe it will be reported that he is a democrat, just like the guy flying his plane into the IRS building and the "christian militia" guy who was arrested for wanting to blow up cops.

Posted by: gjconely | April 9, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

It ain't easy being a sellout.

Posted by: Tupac_Goldstein | April 9, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

I see Moonbat/drivl/Zouk/King_of_zouk/doof/Ace McNumbnuts is still posting his nonsensical gibberish about the stock market reacting to what could happen in seven months.

Ace is good for laughs, if nothing else.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | April 9, 2010 9:09 AM
-------------------------------
Speaking as one who follows the market technically, watch 11028 on the Dow. If the Dow closes there or above, it will trade higher to 11,800.

The market is definitely trying to make new highs here. A Friday close at its highs is particularly significant.

I am not smart enough to say why the market moves up or down. I suspect it's for a composite of reasons. I just try to assess WHICH direction it's going, not WHY.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | April 9, 2010 12:05 PM | Report abuse

greatgran1: where did you get your "116 new agencies" garbage? Fox. there are no new agencies at all, so you are off by 116. what government takeover? there is no government run health program in the bill. what liberty did you lose? you are being told to take responsibility for the cost of your own health care by buying insurance so that you don't stick other people with the bill when the paramedics take you to the hospital with a heart attack. that's called individual responsibility, and I thought it was a conservative value.

read the bill before you repeat lies you read somewhere else. I have.

Posted by: JoeT1 | April 9, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Any bets on long before this fraud shows up on the job at some Obama sinecure or useless "think tank," that pays him $300,000 per year??

Posted by: pgr88 | April 9, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

aka, Stupid. Don't let the door hit you in the ar_se. Career killer!

Posted by: a_DC_denizen | April 9, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Bart Stupak will be offered a high level job in the Obama administration as payment. Obama guaranteed something sweet for him for his vote.
Keep your eyes peeled for it people. It will somehow come out in the next year or so.

Posted by: 2Canadians | April 9, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Michigan, our Great Lakes State, is a beautiful place to live...so, go fishing and enjoy family and friends...thanks to all who serve in Congress. Life is short, why not face it and enjoy it while still young?

Posted by: judithclaire1939 | April 9, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Michigan, our Great Lakes State, is a beautiful place to live...so, go fishing and enjoy family and friends...thanks to all who serve in Congress. Life is short, why not face it and enjoy it while still young?

Posted by: judithclaire1939 | April 9, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse


Take the money and run coward...


Posted by: AG11 | April 9, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

ADIOS!!!


Don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya!

Posted by: TexanbygraceofGOD | April 9, 2010 11:58 AM | Report abuse

GOOD BYE, and thanks for NOTHING MR.STUUUUpak!

Posted by: larada | April 9, 2010 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Stupak has no one to blame but himself. You do not stand on a soap box and yell 'Look At Me'! Then do a 180 and say, only kidding. He did not have the stomach or backbone for the game he played badly at.

Posted by: PatrickNYC1 | April 9, 2010 11:56 AM | Report abuse

another teabagger gets popped for violence -- that seems to be all these people do:

'Larry Eugene North, a man accused of placing 36 pipe bombs into mailboxes across east Texas, was indicted yesterday on charges of possessing an illegal firearm or destructive device. In an interview with Talking Points Memo, Brit Featherston, first assistant U. S. attorney for the Eastern District of Texas, said North had anti-government motives:

“It does appear that there were two motives: one, that he was disenchanted with the federal government” says Featherston of 52-year-old Larry North, who was arrested today.

and look at that pasty fat bloated white face -- I imagine this is what king of zouk [moonbat] looks like.

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/04/08/pipebomb-east-texas/

Posted by: drindl | April 9, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Well, they like to call them "tea baggers" - so, how does it feel to be "tea bagged" facists?

Posted by: gjconely | April 9, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Who cares whether Democrats or Republicans Win?

After all Obama/Dems prove how there is little real difference between Dems and Reps.
That is Obama/Democrats prove how right-wing Democrats are, which means how they act for the benefit of Rich and Big corporations (Big Pharma, Big Insurance, Big Military, etc.) and NOT for the benefit of American people (Middle class) and thus what Utter Complete Lunatics Republicans are who are even to the right of the Dems.
To be exact:
1- Obama/Dems did not produce, hek did not EVEN propose, Universal nationalized health care, instead they proposed this travesty of health care reform that not does it not nationalize health care, as they have done in ALL European countries, in all developed countries, it does not even offer the Public option.
2- They did not end the Iraq War,
3- They did not reduce the US Military budget that is beyond Gargantuan, investing the savings in American people & cities
etc. etc.
so in every way Obama/Dems were a near copy of the Republican lunatics.
More on this here:
http://anoox.com/blog/Real_News.33758

and here:
http://anoox.com/blog/Real_News.38034

Posted by: RealNews1 | April 9, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

the hate being spewed here is disgusting. I thought Stupak's pro-life effort was unnecessary, but respected his principled stand trying to ensure that no funds went to abortion. He wasn't entirely sure that the Senate Bill language was as good as his (it was perfectly good, and in some respects stronger) and settled for it plus the executive order. No more stalwart pro life voice was heard on either side of the aisle, and he's crucified. Why? because health reform passed, not because he's a baby killer. The tea party was just ticked that the Stupak language debate didn't derail health reform.

Obama isn't going to rescind the EO. It just tells administrative agencies to follow the Hyde amendment to the letter, which, of course, is the law already, so there's nothing to rescind. The "EOs aren't enforceable" crowd sounds a lot like the Birthers. They don't supersede an actual law (but since there is no abortion funding in the bill that's not a flaw), they are binding on executive agencies (which of course is the point) and, as noted, Obama can't rescind an EO that just says follow the law (because the Hyde amendment is the law, which would be unaffected either way).

Bachmann is a fool. Abortions go down with expanded insurance coverage for moms and their children. Pregnant mothers to be don't fear for the health care of their children. Her absurd claim that abortions will climb by 30% must have come from her behind.

Even Dr. Laura agrees that the pro life crowd should quite whining about Roe and actually do something to reduce abortion. Like raise daughters with enough self-esteem not to get pregnant. Raise sons who don't think it's cool to find a girl with low self esteem who will have sex with them. Insist that schools teach those messages. Demand that pastors create an environment in which pregnant teens won't be condemned, and in which parishioners won't shun them. Be parents who won't disown them. Create social programs that enable girls to have their children and still get educations and jobs. In short, change the equation facing the pregnant teen so that the prospect of having the child isn't so threatening that abortion is even entertained as an option.

Posted by: JoeT1 | April 9, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

"Stupak has proven that there is no such thing as a centrist Democrat. They are all liberals that have no spine to stand up to their party."

Stupak belongs to a group of moderate to conservative Democrats that make up over 30% of Democrat Representatives.

Want to know how many have been voted into party leadership positions? None.

That should tell you something about where the party is going. I mean if the 'we have 60, if not buy off Nelson', 'threaten Lieberman' and 'Baucus is a traitor for not rubber-stamping' hadn't already.

There's no toleration of reasonable debate within the party. Either you're with Pelosi and Obama or you can kiss the Union and abortionists money, leadership positions, and government graft goodbye. Well, at least, they're not shipping their party dissidents to Siberia.

Posted by: cprferry | April 9, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse


HA HA HA HA HA Bart "Judas" Stupak has been officially Tea Bagged.

How did selling your soul to the Devil in chief work out for you Bart? Doh!

Posted by: Straightline | April 9, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse


Yea, take that big fat retirement pension and free health care and perks for life and settle down in one of your mansions. It's the American way. Thank's for nothing.

Posted by: maphound | April 9, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

If Stupak would have just voted his constituents and his conscience, he would be the congressman from Michigan long after the commie abortionist in chief is gone.

Posted by: Straightline | April 9, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Yes, Stupak is exhausted.

It's tiring work selling your soul to the Devil.

Posted by: wmpowellfan | April 9, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Good, hopefully we will once gain have something akin to divided government.

Posted by: moebius22 | April 9, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

What a gutless spineless wonder! And now we can add coward to this list. He does not want to face the electorate after he caved to evil men. My mom always said that if you do not stand for something, you will fall for anything. She was right. But Stupak betrayed little ones who could not defend themselves. And he betrayed an electorate who did not want the government taking over one sixth of our economy. This massive invasive horrific expensive bill took away our liberty and was designed to put in play 116 new government agencies we know will be a cesspool of waste and fraud. This will be a disaster for our country. So do not run you little coward but you will answer not to me, but to God who expected you to hold fast in the face of evil. Tell him why you caved.

Posted by: greatgran1 | April 9, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Stupak has proven that there is no such thing as a centrist Democrat. They are all liberals that have no spine to stand up to their party.

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That would be "WHO have no spine."

And what exactly do you think defines the center? You and your buds at the meat packing plant?

Posted by: Noacoler | April 9, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Wimp.

Posted by: jckdoors | April 9, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Talk about seeing the writing on the wall! This will save the humiliation of defeat.

Posted by: phines1 | April 9, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

The 1st is an interesting district. The UP and lower P have different political makeup, with the UP being more Dem, though still culturally conservative. The lower half has been gaining population as a % of the district, but Republicans did Dems a favor in 2002 by shifting the lower P portion of the district eastward towards Saginaw and Bay City, and making it more Democratic. Republicans held this seat for decades before Stupak came along. Republican Bob Davis held it from 1978-1992. He retired when it came out that he had written bad checks on the House Bank account 670 times or so. The guy before him, Phil Ruppe, decided to run for Senate in 1978 because Senator Bob Griffin was retiring, and then Griffin decided to run again at the last minute, causing Ruppe to leave politics (Griffin was defeated in the general). Republicans ran strong challenges to Stupak in the mid 1990s, but he's had it easy this decade. In a normal year, Democrats should be favored; this year, who knows? Jim Barcia would love to get back to Congress, though, and he'd be tough. He fits the district and picked up a State Senate seat for Dems a few years ago.

Posted by: joeyjoejoe | April 9, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

What a gutless spineless wonder! And now we can add coward to this list. He does not want to face the electorate after he caved to evil men. My mom always said that if you do not stand for something, you will fall for anything. She was right. But Stupak betrayed little ones who could not defend themselves. And he betrayed an electorate who did not want the government taking over one sixth of our economy. This massive invasive horrific expensive bill took away our liberty and was designed to put in play 116 new government agencies we know will be a cesspool of waste and fraud. This will be a disaster for our country. So do not run you little coward but you will answer not to me, but to God who expected you to hold fast in the face of evil. Tell him why you caved.

Posted by: greatgran1 | April 9, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Stupak sold his soul to the devil.He knew that Obama's executive order is a worthless piece of paper and that Obama will negate its effects as soon as he can. Early in his campaign Obama promised Planned Parenthood that he would support federal funding of abortions as soon as a bill reached his desk.The nation will suffer from the ramifications of Stupak's immoral decision and he will receive a lucrative contract to "influence" legislation as a lobbyist. The term Blue Dog Democrats is a misnomer because they finally acquiesce to Obama's socialist aagenda.

Posted by: tsapp77 | April 9, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Just one more Democrat who voted to cut Medicare by half a trillion dollars and has to leave before he's thrown out.

Posted by: BruceMcDougall | April 9, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

He is a good man who voted in accordance with his principles. It's too bad that isn't good enough for voters anymore.

Posted by: dawnforsythe | April 9, 2010 8:51 AM
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But he is not a good man. He did sell out. An executive order DOES NOT trump a law passed by Congress. He knows it. obamathug knows it and so does the rest of the world.
He has thrown a lot of unborn babies under the bus and he has to live with that now. And that is probably the real reason he is retiring. He is a coward as are most of the politicians in Washington.

Posted by: tjmlrc | April 9, 2010 11:38 AM | Report abuse

"I predict Obama will nominate Leah Ward Sears to the Supreme Court."

I'll see that bet and raise you one, Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Posted by: shrink2 | April 9, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Stupak has proven that there is no such thing as a centrist Democrat. They are all liberals that have no spine to stand up to their party.

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That would be "WHO have no spine."

And what exactly do you think defines the center? You and your buds at the meat packing plant?

Posted by: Noacoler | April 9, 2010 11:33 AM | Report abuse

So he screws us and the committs political hara-kiri? What a nut... good bye Mr Gluepack

Posted by: Texican911 | April 9, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

The last thing American needs is another spineless politician that sells their vote to the highest bidder. Good riddance Stupak and don't let the door hit you in the arse on the way out.

Posted by: MikeJ9116 | April 9, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

I predict Obama will nominate Leah Ward Sears to the Supreme Court.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 9, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Another slimy DemocRat, bites the dust!

Posted by: theaz
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Wonder why so many Repubums bit the dust in 2006 and 2008? Just curious if you noticed?

Posted by: bnw173 | April 9, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Stupak sold his soul to the devil.He knew that Obama's executive order is a worthless piece of paper and that Obama will negate its effects as soon as he can. Early in his campaign Obama promised Planned Parenthood that he would support federal funding of abortions as soon as a bill reached his desk.The nation will suffer from the ramifications of Stupak's immoral decision and he will receive a lucrative contract to "influence" legislation as a lobbyist. The term Blue Dog Democrats is a misnomer because they finally acquiesce to Obama's socialist aagenda.

Posted by: tsapp77 | April 9, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse

God I love that woman and am sending her 5,000 to her soon to be announced campaign.

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A fool and his money are soon parted.

She'll be happy to take your money (not that I believe you have 5K to part with but no matter).

You love her, huh? Hahahahahahah she's a dumb hick.

Posted by: Noacoler | April 9, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse

STUPAK FOR CONGRESS WE NEED HIM

STUPAK AMERICA NEEDS YOU

VOTE FOR STUPAK

Posted by: theoldmansays | April 9, 2010 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Why not? He got what he wanted from the deal. $730 Million for repairs at three Airports that nobody's ever heard of. And for what? Millions of Unborn Children MURDERED in their Mothers' Womb.
Apparently the death of HIS OWN CHILD, didn't teach him ANYTHING about the PRECIOUSNESS of LIFE.

Posted by: GoomyGommy | April 9, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse

This gutless, spineles person sells out to Obama and then guits.

Posted by: state82 | April 9, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse

"All you folks on here who are such good Christians because you are so vocal and anti-abortion... How many hungry have you fed? How many poor and homeless have you housed or clothed? How many jobless have you paid bills for?

Posted by: OHREALLYNOW"

You make a good point. It's good people that need to take the initiative and act in good conscience and in free will to serve others.
And, no, advocating for a public homeless shelter in which a fraction of the cost goes to care and people are denied beds due to regulatory snafus doesn't count.
Or in the case of the federal home loan assistance programs, caused even greater harm to the people seeking help.
Life gets better because of individuals supporting individuals with love and concern and respect, not cold, insensitive, greedy government.

Posted by: cprferry | April 9, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

There is no such thing as a pro life Democrat and calling Stupak a catholic is a joke.

Posted by: screwjob11 | April 9, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse

There is no such thing as a pro life Democrat and calling Stupak a catholic is a joke.

Posted by: screwjob11 | April 9, 2010 11:23 AM | Report abuse

I'm sure more hate groups have already been infiltrated and will make fine inmates of the internment camps around the country

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Boo on internment camps. Put'em un supermax, lose the key, let them rot. They can join the Aryan Brotherhood like the rest of the losers.

Posted by: Noacoler | April 9, 2010 11:23 AM | Report abuse

I hope Obama is proud of Sputnik giving his political life for his half-a**ed health care bill. I'm sure he is in mourning.

Posted by: bnw173 | April 9, 2010 11:22 AM | Report abuse

Stupak has proven that there is no such thing as a centrist Democrat. They are all liberals that have no spine to stand up to their party. I wonder what bank has the millions of dollars Stupak got for his vote? Look for him to be living beyond his means in retirement. No politician throws away a career for one vote without getting a wad of cash in return. It is called bribery and Stupak should be thrown in prison.

Posted by: MikeJ9116 | April 9, 2010 11:22 AM | Report abuse

I hope Obama is proud of Sputnik giving his political life for his half-a**ed health care bill. I'm sure he is in mourning.

Posted by: bnw173 | April 9, 2010 11:21 AM | Report abuse

As I see Stupak's problem is that it is probably his religious convictions forcing him to assure himself entrance to the pearly gates instead of the hot spot reserved for most officials. He would be the darling of the fundamentalists and of the Church.

It did not matter that there would be no government funding without his unneeded intervention; he had to just push religion into politics.

Oh, I think he should say that he wants to spend more time with his family.

Read Harv: http://theHARVview.blogspot.com

Posted by: HarveyY | April 9, 2010 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Having read most comments here this morning this one hits it right on:

Most of the conservatives who post here are unemployed mentals.

Posted by: Noacoler | April 9, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: mackiejw | April 9, 2010 11:20 AM | Report abuse

How sad for the American citizens and taxpayers that Mr. Stupak did not have the power of his convictions and stand up to the bullies! Stand up to Obama, Pelosi, etal and just 'SAY NO!' Remember our vote is the most powerful voice we have and to 'dance with the devil' and deny that taxpayer money will indeed be used to pay for abortions and turn his back on those precious babies is something he will have to discuss with God. May God have as much mercy on Mr. Stupak as Mr. Stupak decided to show to these precious babies. He should have done the honorable thing and stepped down prior to 'buying' into the lie and voting for as well as conning other members of congress to cross over. Instead of being a leader he chose to be a coward and has now chosen to run away rather than face his constituents. How very sad for him!

Posted by: imaginemore | April 9, 2010 11:19 AM | Report abuse

I'm sure more hate groups have already been infiltrated and will make fine inmates of the internment camps around the country

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Boo on internment camps. Put'em un supermax, lose the key, let them rot. They can join the Aryan Brotherhood like the rest of the losers.

Posted by: Noacoler | April 9, 2010 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Teabaggers are calling the shots and dEMS are running like the cowards they are

God Bless Sarah Palin who has changed the political landscape in America

And the leftist loonies (i call em FUNDIES) claim she's dumb!

Yeah right!

President Sarah is doing to the fundies what she did as Governor, removing the stench from a wonderful state!

Now she's removing the stench in American politics and she's just getting started.

God I love that woman and am sending her 5,000 to her soon to be announced campaign.
Make no mistake, she's running so you bums best go find a job, no free loaders on her watch.

You want to eat? Get a job!

Redneck Chevy strikes again

Chevy

Posted by: EducatedRedneck01 | April 9, 2010 11:18 AM | Report abuse

Another slimy DemocRat, bites the dust!

Posted by: theaz | April 9, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Timmid
I'm sure the Toilet paper party will take credit for this one....lol
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You numb nuts won't ever earn. trash talking a wide swath of the voting public has really worked well for you liberals so far. Keep it up and the terms liberal/progressive/socialist will join the ranks of Nazi as a political label no one will ever want to see in American politics.

Posted by: MikeJ9116 | April 9, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

So many White American Terrorist! Threatening the lives of other Americans. The Christian Jihad has begun. You are no better than the people you condemn for such barbarianism. Now I understand why Bin Laden is still a free man. He is a Hero of the likes of Eric Rudolph to all of you. You are not patriots but TERRORIST!

Posted by: minco_007
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How many folks have the Christian Jihad killed? Dangerous folks you Liberals say. Wonder how all those Dems walked through the 30,000 and nobody got killed, spit on, or slurred. I'm not talking about lying Liberal accusation. As money hungry as Dem politicians are that they haven't tried to collect the $100,000 offered for proof of slurs and spitting. Remember two of those Dems, Clyburn and Lewis and Mr. Robinson was an enabler, in that little race card dirty trick, falsely called the Clintons racist in the primary. Why wouldn't they try to play it again?


I wish you Liberals had as good of control of your Liberal terrorist in Southeat D C as the Christian Jihad. How many were "killed" last month. Dang your folks are killing each other. Obama needs to go down there and do a little community organizing. Not with a 22 car cavalcade. 22 car to go to a Liberal church? Who are the terrorist? Huh. Can't hear you?

Yep the Conservatives Tea Party(not my cup of Tea) killing no one and the Liberals have their Liberal Crips, Bloods, Disciples, etc. gangs killing each other.

Me thinks the Liberals need to shut up or put up.

Posted by: bnw173 | April 9, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

California, New York and Michigan just to name a few always have been strongholds for the Democratic Party. California is a mess. Their pension system is estimated to be underfunded by about $500 million dollars. New York has a serious budget shortfall and droves of people from NY are moving south. Michigan has lost one manufacturing plant after another. They keep on electing Liberal Democrats and they expect different results? You don't have to be a rocket scientist to see what is happening we have numerous examples in front of us of what too much Government is doing. The Republicans frankly aren't much better and that is why I no longer identify with them. There aren't many true Republicans anymore. Corporations have their hands in everyone’s pockets. I'm a Conservative not a "tea party" person. The sheep are getting the wool pulled over their eyes and they are too stupid to realize it. This healthcare bill from the start had absolutely nothing to do with healthcare. Anyone dumb enough to want the Government to control their healthcare deserves the level of care they will receive. This is about control of the electorate. Sounds wacky I know people need to read more. Read about history and read about what going on in New York, California and Michigan, it disgusting.

Posted by: osheehan1 | April 9, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

"Stupak is the 16th House Democrat to announce his retirement; 18 Republicans are calling it quits while a 19th -- Florida Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart -- is leaving his 25th District to run in the 21st."

I understand if you're attempting to be fair, but it's more relevant to the topic which Representatives are retiring to leave public service. Nearly every Republican retiree is seeking higher public office in the Senate or as Governor of their state.

Posted by: cprferry | April 9, 2010 11:14 AM | Report abuse

If he gets paid off with anything federal, we will see if Coburn is talking the talk - or walking the walk.

If he is just blustering, he will be on his way out. I think America is at a tipping point with RINOs. American is obviously well past tipping, moving on to shoveling the democrats.

Posted by: VirginiaConservative | April 9, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse

How sad for the American citizens and taxpayers that Mr. Stupak did not have the power of his convictions and stand up to the bullies! Stand up to Obama, Pelosi, etal and just 'SAY NO!' Remember our vote is the most powerful voice we have and to 'dance with the devil' and deny that taxpayer money will indeed be used to pay for abortions and turn his back on those precious babies is something he will have to discuss with God. May God have as much mercy on Mr. Stupak as Mr. Stupak decided to show to these precious babies. He should have done the honorable thing and stepped down prior to 'buying' into the lie and voting for as well as conning other members of congress to cross over. Instead of being a leader he chose to be a coward and has now chosen to run rather than face his constituents. How very sad for him!

Posted by: imaginemore | April 9, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Why not? He got what he wanted from the deal. $730 Million for repairs at three Airports that nobody's ever heard of. And for what? Millions of Unborn Children MURDERED in their Mothers' Womb.
Apparently the death of HIS OWN CHILD, didn't teach him ANYTHING about the PRECIOUSNESS of LIFE.

Posted by: GoomyGommy | April 9, 2010 11:12 AM | Report abuse

@ websterr1 - The last time Drudge linked to the Fix, the comments section largely consisted of hundreds of new registrants spewing venom in all directions. For example, take the first column in the thread regarding Old Nick.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | April 9, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

OK, teabaggers, I'll hold up a mirror so you can see your own hypocrisy. Stupak is retiring. AND? I thought you folks were for term-limits and congressional turnover?

Posted by: free-idiot | April 9, 2010 10:57 AM | Report abuse

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Drop dead

Haaaaaa, ha ha ha ha ha! I simply cannot stop laughing as I watch the Obama follwers dropping like the flies they truly are.

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Posted by: EducatedRedneck01 | April 9, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

This is great news! One less corrupt, spineless politician who prostitutes his vote to the highest bidder. Now, let's get rid or the rest of this corrupt administration from 0bama to the ENITRE Democratic Progessive Party and we'll be able to get our country back, repeal all of the insanity that was passed, and get on with being the greatest country on earth.

Posted by: lovesbooks81 | April 9, 2010 11:10 AM | Report abuse

hughes_168 wrote:

Your Bush, Cheney's policy of killing for Oil makes them even more worse. Where the heck were you then??
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You really fell for the left's talking points didn't you?

Can you give one shred of evidence that America benefited even a little bit from the Iraq war in terms of a change in oil acquisition?

Give me anything on this - you can't!

Posted by: reddog62 | April 9, 2010 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Yes, this health bill is the terrible piece of legislation and the very damaging one. Yes, Stupak is retiring, giving Obama a chance to revoke this abortion restriction and to pacify women's rights groups. Yes, the entire legislative branch is deeply corrupted, so is executive branch. Yes, I-personally won't vote any more for anybody, who voted 'yes' for this health reform bill. So, I think, should do any person with patriotism and the feelings of civil responsibility.


Posted by: aepelbaum | April 9, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse
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You are far from alone as almost all of the independents that got Obama elected have turned against him and now will vote against the democrats that passed this socialistic nightmare - without the the independent's support, the Dems become a meaningless minority as all the current polling data shows - the Midterms will result in a complete rout, as the GOP takes over Capitol Hill, and starts repealing this Obama Health Bill Garbage, one section at a time!

Posted by: Realist201 | April 9, 2010 11:08 AM | Report abuse

I am sure the Post will be on the lookout for the multi million$$$ job/payoff comming to stupak for his vote. lol lol lol

Posted by: j751 | April 9, 2010 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Why not? He did what the DEVIL told him to do. Now, because of him, MILLIONS more will DIE. We are now a COUNTRY that proclaims the KILLING OF UNBORN BABIES, an ENTITLEMENT. But don't worry. Bart didn't sell his Soul for nothing. He got $730K for some repairs to a buncha no name Airports. A fitting sum for the LIVES OF MILLIONS.
Such are the ways of the PARTY OF DEATH.

Posted by: GoomyGommy | April 9, 2010 11:06 AM | Report abuse

I'm sure the Toilet paper party will take credit for this one....lol

Posted by: Timmid | April 9, 2010 11:06 AM | Report abuse

pureamerican wrote "Stupak sold out and did not have the integrity or moral character to stand for what he falsely represented were his Catholic convictions."

Which Repub has those Catholic convictions? Sarah Palin? McCain? OR Steele? Wake up to the reality. At least the guy got in his hand an executive order. Besides, funding abortion does not amount to killing innocents. Your Bush, Cheney's policy of killing for Oil makes them even more worse. Where the heck were you then??

Posted by: hughes_168 | April 9, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

He's going home to spend more time with his parents Homer and Marge Stupak.

Posted by: SSTK34 | April 9, 2010 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Yes, this health bill is the terrible piece of legislation and the very damaging one. Yes, Stupak is retiring, giving Obama a chance to revoke this abortion restriction and to pacify women's rights groups. Yes, the entire legislative branch is deeply corrupted, so is executive branch. Yes, I-personally won't vote any more for anybody, who voted 'yes' for this health reform bill. So, I think, should do any person with patriotism and the feelings of civil responsibility.

Posted by: aepelbaum | April 9, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

stupak - canary in a coal mine for his party. democrats need to heed the warning and start running for the exits real fast.

Posted by: doof | April 9, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

It's been suggested:
"Bart Stupak and those like him will be missed!"
But only by those who don't keep a list
Of "persons not tough
When the going got rough"
Who will not, indeed will never be missed.

Posted by: Gonzage1 | April 9, 2010 10:59 AM | Report abuse

How sleazy can you get . . . do the dirty work and then walk out . . .

Is there no shame? What a gutless wonder!

Posted by: reddog62 | April 9, 2010 10:59 AM | Report abuse

My dear Americans, please cut the hate language out. Stupak did what he said he was going to do - support health care access for those shut out, while protecting the unborn. Mr. Bush used the same order as Mr. Obama and there was no fuss when he wrote executive orders. Just relax, help take care of the born and unborn. I am from Canada and they are proud to care enough for those less fortunate so they have access to health care, and our GNP grew 6.2% this past quarter. I would guess that all those opposed to the passing of the health care bill intend to go on Medicare when they become 65. That is a government run program and I don't hear a call for its repeal.Canada is a blend of free market and regulations, just like the U.S. Canadian and American countries are not totally free market - both regulate food, automobile insurance , all kinds of things. The U.S. will never become socialist and neither will Canada.

Posted by: joyhogghwh | April 9, 2010 10:59 AM | Report abuse

pureamerican said, "...so now Obama can resend the order." The word is "rescind," you dolt. Get your dictionary out before you try to run with the big dog bloggers. So much for you kindergarten education. Scheesch!!!

Posted by: dakotahgeo | April 9, 2010 10:58 AM | Report abuse

OK, teabaggers, I'll hold up a mirror so you can see your own hypocrisy. Stupak is retiring. AND? I thought you folks were for term-limits and congressional turnover?

Stupak is almost 60. He's been in Congress for 18 years.

He went to Congress after a career as a Law Enforcement Officer. Let the guy retire. Was it a mistake for him to be honest and say he was tired and ready to leave? Perhaps...its not the standard "I need more time for family" BS story others have given.

Many have cried that we need MORE turnover in Congress. Well, here is a guy who is retiring after his party completes a historic health care reform objective. I encourage others in Congress to retire rather than die in office at 85 or 90 years old.

TGIF


Posted by: free-donny | April 9, 2010 10:57 AM | Report abuse

May Be the Democrats are stating to realize that many of us partiots are willing to die for our country and to take out the traiter who have taken our country away from us. Listen to Glen Beck and Shawn Hannity and wake up people

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"May Be." "traiter". "Shawn"

You sound like the kind of guy who'll set out to blow up a building and end up blowing his own hands off instead.

Hope the FBI pays you a visit, Jethro.

Posted by: Noacoler | April 9, 2010 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Retire ? To where ? It better be a foriegn soil...he can't order a drink in the US without someone picking a fight with him...what a louse...

Posted by: billbrann | April 9, 2010 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Now we will find out what Pelosi and Obama promised him for his vote. Watch the news.

Posted by: delusional1 | April 9, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

This is a great TEA PARTY VICTORY, as Stupak has been targeted for the last two weeks....made him quit. Time for the Tea Party to move on to the others that supported the Socialist Health Plan!

Posted by: Realist201 | April 9, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

You could see this coming from a mile away. Barney Frank will do the same. All the tough talk and now the flaming libs sneak out the back door in the middle of the night. Gutless!

Posted by: gorams1 | April 9, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse

GiveMeaBreak37, thank you.
Said Todd Pollard may already have been reported to the FBI or local law enforcement officers. They do not take these threats lightly any more, i.e., the Washington and California nutjobs have already been apprehended. I'm sure more hate groups have already been infiltrated and will make fine inmates of the internment camps around the country. The madness has got to stop somewhere and I am happy our government is doing something about it.

Posted by: dakotahgeo | April 9, 2010 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Stupak will forever be known as Nancy's boy who caved. We won't miss you Bart.

Posted by: delusional1 | April 9, 2010 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Another Democrat that sees the Republican tsunami in the Midterms retires to avoid being trashed in a failed bid to be re-elected! The Democratic Party is crumpbling before us all. Their Socialist leader brought this downfall upon all of them!

Posted by: Realist201 | April 9, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

So many White American Terrorist! Threatening the lives of other Americans. The Christian Jihad has begun. You are no better than the people you condemn for such barbarianism. Now I understand why Bin Laden is still a free man. He is a Hero of the likes of Eric Rudolph to all of you. You are not patriots but TERRORIST!

Posted by: minco_007 | April 9, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

This was all orchestrated. Stupak knows that he would not be re elected. Obama knew Stupak would not be re elected. So Obama strikes a deal with Stupak; Obama signs an Executive Order that federal tax money will not finance abortions if Stupak votes for the bill. Stupak does not stand for re election so now Obama can resend the executive order. This health care reform bill is the worse piece of legislation in our history. If anyone believes that federal tax dollars will not be funding abortions also believes in the Easter Bunny. Stupak sold out and did not have the integrity or moral character to stand for what he falsely represented were his Catholic convictions. He caved in to Peelosi and now wants to run away and make himself out to be a victim. Being a leader and fairly representing your constiuents in Congress requires strength of character and moral courage. Stupak could not live up to his own pretended standards. He now has the remainder of his life to reflect on how Obama walked out of the oval office, went into a dark room, out of sight of everyone and signed the executive order. Obama pretending to pacify Stupak rubbed his butt in Stupak's face. The Dems and Repubs have turned politics and the Congress into a disrespected institution. Where are the Abe's and Martin's of today? Hopefully not all of them are in the grave.

Posted by: pureamerican | April 9, 2010 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Bart Stupak is a shining example of why you can't trust pro-life Democrats. Or, really, why you can't trust any Democrat. They'll say whatever it takes to get elected, but they'll abandon their principles for either a good bribe or a chance to advance the Socialist cause.

Posted by: diesel_skins_ | April 9, 2010 10:51 AM | Report abuse

"After selling his soul to Nancy Pelosi, it appears that Bart Stupak finally found the courage to tell her no," said Ken Spain, communications director for the National Republican Congressional Committee.

This comment from Ken Spain is astounding. He represents the purveyors of a campaign of lies and misinformation against the health care legislation and now attacks a man of principle who has held true to his principles.

Posted by: esch | April 9, 2010 10:50 AM | Report abuse

stupak is NOT stupid. bailing out and job hunting.

Posted by: pofinpa | April 9, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse

When a ship is sinking, the rats are the first to leave . . . the rats are already jumping off the boat!

Posted by: reddog62 | April 9, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

kmar20009:
You are spot on target!! The silly Repugs think the Democrats are the enemy! They are killing themselves in the political process. The Democrats will always come together, regardless of the redcoat blue dogs. I'm just hoping we have Republican competition in November so we can watch the circus.
It must make the conservatives very angry indeed that Limbaugh (et al) is taking them for a ride every telecast he makes... Rush gets rich by feeding them his sedatives. Hey, if it worked for Rush, just think what it can do to the lemmings.

Posted by: dakotahgeo | April 9, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

He is not a phony and he did what he thought was right. I don't blame him for wanting to go back to his beautiful Northern Michigan.

The Republicans are not going to win back Michigan until they can provide more JOBS! McCain didn't win in Michigan, Romney did and that was because Romney spoke up for jobs in Michigan. Bush closed prisons in Northern Michigan that took away jobs up there.

Northern Michigan may be Catholic and therefore anti-abortion, but they are not necessarily tea-partiers or Republicans, either. Republicans would have to show a little more empathy for the unemployed and blue collar workers and working families. I don't think the right-wing racist confederate thing is so popular up there either.

Posted by: celestun100 | April 9, 2010 10:47 AM | Report abuse

The teabaggers along with the rest of the lunatic fringe forgot that the Barack Obama and the Democrats won and won big in the last election. They forgot that the RepugliCONS were voted out. LOL.

President Obama and the Democrats are simply following the will of the people. The CONS don't seem to get that simple concept. It is WHY they won't be winning anything major in the next election. The days where Republicans will be the majority are over. The extreme right, teabaggers and neocons will never be in charge of this country EVER AGAIN. So you nutwings need to just start looking for meaningful employment instead of standing around public places causing trouble and humiliating yourselves.

Posted by: Yuri_Akilev | April 9, 2010 10:47 AM | Report abuse

"...and to take out the traiter who have taken our country..."

Hey, you, psycho right wing nut bar, before you blow up your local gubment building, please make sure there are no kids inside.

Your hero, Timothy McVeigh, murdered a lot of little kids. It wasn't their fault their parents were federal employees. You can't pick your parents you know.

Posted by: shrink2 | April 9, 2010 10:47 AM | Report abuse

I am a proud Conservative (I have found over the years that liberals appear very reticent to identify themselves - they like "L" or "progressive" or "why do you ask?"). I say good riddance to Stupak and look forward to more of those "good old boys" going with him. However, the folks that really sicken me (and frighten me) are the folks that post messages like the one below from ToddPollard. He called Stupak a "baby killer" and a "traiter to white people." Then he implied something that read to me like a threat. What an absolute sicko. Those folks should be condemned, rejected and vilified by both sides of the aisle; at least what they say and write should be.

Posted by: GiveMeaBreak37 | April 9, 2010 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Good riddance to bad rubbish!

And who was subsidizing his rent at the C-Street cult house again?

Posted by: Gatsby10 | April 9, 2010 10:47 AM | Report abuse

I am a proud Conservative (I have found over the years that liberals appear very reticent to identify themselves - they like "L" or "progressive" or "why do you ask?"). I say good riddance to Stupak and look forward to more of those "good old boys" going with him. However, the folks that really sicken me (and frighten me) are the folks that post messages like the one below from ToddPollard. He called Stupak a "baby killer" and a "traiter to white people." Then he implied something that read to me like a threat. What an absolute sicko. Those folks should be condemned, rejected and vilified by both sides of the aisle; at least what they say and write should be.

Posted by: GiveMeaBreak37 | April 9, 2010 10:47 AM | Report abuse

This is yet another sad comment on the state of politics in our country. A public official who tries to find common ground is belittled and berated by angry mobs of "one issue" voters on both sides of the spectrum. Where is the moderate - center of American politics? Fading fast......

Posted by: slambertr | April 9, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

IF BART STUPAK WOULD RUN

HE WOULD WIN AGAIN

MOST VOTORS ARE SMARTER THAN SOME OF THE PEOPLE POSTING

Posted by: theoldmansays | April 9, 2010 10:44 AM | Report abuse

stupid is a stupak does...

Posted by: simonsays1 | April 9, 2010 10:40 AM | Report abuse

he guy is a baby killer and a traiter to white people. At least he is smart enough to take the hint that if he values HIS OWN LIFE, that he GET OUT OF POLITICS. All of the Dims should take the hint.

Posted by: ToddPollard

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What am imbecile! We should be seeing you in the 6 o'clock News after you get arrested for making physical threats against Democratic members of Congress.

Posted by: Yuri_Akilev | April 9, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse

May Be the Democrats are stating to realize that many of us partiots are willing to die for our country and to take out the traiter who have taken our country away from us. Listen to Glen Beck and Shawn Hannity and wake up people

Posted by: ToddPollard | April 9, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse

You southern conservatives are funny, no matter what state you live in. Do you seriously think that even if you are lucky enough to win anything in 2010 or 2012 that things will radically change?? Your future lot has been cast years ago under the Bush/Cheney regime, and you still can't see that? You'll do no better and fare worse than you think we're doing now.
I am a firm believer in internment camps for the crazy cons and TeaPartiers out there. As for your threats, remember that we ARE watching and listening and will turn you in to the proper authorities in a New York second!

Posted by: dakotahgeo | April 9, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse

And STEVENS fell on his sword and Obama just smiled...

Posted by: melatr7 | April 9, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Stupak should not have brought the abortion issue into healthcare reform..this was not the bill to do that.. I understand that he is a principled man but he wore himself out by trying to fit a square peg in a round whole.. I can understand his frustration but if the fire is too hot it is time to get out of the kitchen.. I wish him the best and I pray for him and his family.. and I pray that he will work to elect democrats ...because the right wing nut jobs who want to take over America ..walk with big sticks and carry guns on the streets ..nullify progressive agendas that benefit us all ..bully other nations ..start wars and murder our young men and women in uniform... need to be stopped.. these people care about no one but themselves and are BAD for America.

Posted by: sabrina2 | April 9, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

kmar20009


My point is that Clinton came from the centrist wing of his party and Bush the second really ended up at odds with his conservative wing - which put him in with the moderates.

I understand what you are saying.

However, look at what has been happening WITHIN the parties - not so much between the parties.

The extremists are shooting up the center.


Previously, the center was able to gain nominations, and reach out to get enough votes in the middle to govern - that formula is now out the window.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 9, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

LOL LOL

More DemoRat NEWS the Compost refuses to print!

GINGRICH: Obama 'most radical president ever'...

LIMBAUGH: Obama 'inflicting untold damage on this great country'...

PALIN: Obama's Nuke Stance Like Kid Who Says 'Punch Me in Face'...

LIZ CHENEY: Obama Putting America on 'Path to Decline'...

HANNITY: Obama 'Is a Socialist'...

SAVAGE: 'Obama The Destroyer'.

Haaaaaa, ha ha ha ha ha! I simply cannot stop laughing as I watch the Obama follwers dropping like the flies they truly are.

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

Redneck

Posted by: EducatedRedneck | April 9, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Fell on his sword and Obama just smiled...

Posted by: melatr7 | April 9, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

The US Conference of Catholic Bishops just drove out one of the most pro-life Democrats over a manufactured controversy. Nice going guys.

Posted by: jack824 | April 9, 2010 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Bart Stupak is not only a deceiver and hypocrite, he is a coward...

Posted by: gmh123 | April 9, 2010 10:33 AM | Report abuse

This is good news! May Princess Pelosi, Rat Reid and Messiah Obama fade into the sunset and out of our lives also. Never have I known an administration that has been as poisonous, fueled so much anger, or ignored the majority such as this one. They have divided the people and created "sides" and hatred like no other. Obama was hell bent on created a legacy, and so he shall, but not in the light he envisioned.

Posted by: inmanorj | April 9, 2010 10:31 AM | Report abuse

Bart,baby. Guess you becoming a lier really helped your future in politics. I wonder, if Nancy baby will talk to you now?
Goodbye Bart don't let the door hit you in butt.

Posted by: yokohlman | April 9, 2010 10:31 AM | Report abuse

No fight left in stupak...

well, that's obama for you, a war of attrition.

Seems every president needs a war on something... obama's is a war on freedom... and the battle caused some collateral damage... to the US PEOPLE

Posted by: docwhocuts | April 9, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

Many democrat posters here seems to think this is an excellent chance for their party to further solidify their position by electing another dem.

Not likely -- I know --dems will vote for dems....but there are enough indees in Mich. to change that demographic and November will be the proof.

And yes "bickrd" there are conservatives who actually read here to find out what the DNC wants libs to think. It is much like keeping your enemies close. Besides, it is the first place to read Geo. Will or Chas Krauthammer --two of the best writers is the business (whom you probably don't read).

Posted by: jimbob3 | April 9, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

"Truly, these are the Last Days..."

[religious doggerel omitted for clarity]

posted by janeyre

Uh oh, somebody needs to turn her frown upside down! Happily, the end is nowhere near. Don't join a millenarian cult, that is the message you need to hear.

Give love and cheer to others, you'll feel better right away.

Posted by: shrink2 | April 9, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

Everyone deserves what their own resources and honest good faith charity can provide them, and do not deserve the resources of others.

Posted by: hared | April 9, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

I'm so sorry to see such a man of conscience leave public life; we need more like him, not fewer. But the vitriol that has been expressed by people turned monsters by their own fears, limitations and greed would be enough to cause anyone to leave. It amazes me – though don’t know why, as history is full of such – that people can be so self-righteous, so ignorant of the difficulties of others lives, so worried about their own “piece of the pie” (whether it be their Medicare, Social Security, or health care) that they cannot keep a civil tongue, that they feel better about themselves, somehow, by being able to label, denounce and ridicule. This man has probably been threatened, his family has probably been threatened, by people who know not what they do…

Posted by: jujones1 | April 9, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

He isn't running for re-election because he is tired, he just doesn't want to get BEATEN BADLY in the next election. Thanks Obama!

Posted by: millertek | April 9, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

. in the past few months the vast majority of the comments have been from independents and moderates

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Actually most of the past few months comments have come from a single burnout case who thinks he's out-debating people who he's actually driving away with brain-deadening boredom.

Most of the conservatives who post here are unemployed mentals.

Posted by: Noacoler | April 9, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

HA HA HA HA HA Bart "Judas" Stupak has been officially Tea Bagged.

How did selling your soul to the Devil in chief work out for you Bart? Doh!

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I'll bet obama bin lying went to his cash stash and paid this boy off. The IRS needs to monitor what's in his home safe, bank accounts, safe deposit box or off shore accounts. All democrats are criminals so we will probably have to wait until 2012 to find out.

Posted by: charlietuna666 | April 9, 2010 10:25 AM | Report abuse

BART STUPAK MAY HAVE SAVED MANY BABYS BECAUSE OF GOOD HEALTH CARE SOME OF YOU ARE SO HARD HEADED...
AT LEAST HE HAD THE BRAINS TO THINK OF THE HEALTH OF THE UNBORN. SO PLEASE OPEN YOUR EYES ALL BABYS ARE GREAT!!!! EVERY BABY DESERVES HEALTH CARE!!

Posted by: theoldmansays | April 9, 2010 10:25 AM | Report abuse

"Is this a victory for the Tea Party?" This is becoming the most repeated dumb question in the press.

After New Jersey, Virginia, Massachusetts, and multiple scared Democrats running for cover, with the latest being Stupak, they always ask the same question.

Let's move to November after the election where the headlines will read, "Conservatives sweep Congress - is this a victory of the Tea Party?"
Reading the printed media is becoming a waste of time; instead people should go to pieces like "The Self Deluding Presidency - Why It Will Fail". They say, "It is not anymore a question of issues; it is a question of the man and his agenda." Read all at http://www.robbingamerica.com

Posted by: JohnGalt9 | April 9, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

He won't be the last Obamaton to walk the plank, before and in November.

Posted by: hared | April 9, 2010 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Despite the Gov't run media telling us the Dems are doing fine, the reality is something quite different. Cheers libs...you had a nice 2 year run...time for the grown ups to take over.

Posted by: MPNangle | April 9, 2010 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Hope all the blue dogs get run out

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Co-sign, and Israeli Joe too

Posted by: Noacoler | April 9, 2010 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Another courageous liberal steps down after making a big decision,
Gerry Connolly, where are you?

Posted by: fairfaxgoper | April 9, 2010 10:21 AM | Report abuse

Truly, these are the Last Days. Americans are so far from peace and security. They don't remember what the last 9 years did to us. Two Wars and numerous tax cuts for the wealthy. Bush and Cheney should be on trial for crimes against humanity. The Republicans are the party of hate and opposition. The Democrats are weak and slow. Only God's Kingdom can bring true relief for all of us. Still most, don't want to hear that. Most aren't even concerned with the way things, just keep getting worse and worse... Even with the best of intentions, humans cannot guide others to life's waters... We need a real leader. Christ Jesus is that leader...

Posted by: janeyre | April 9, 2010 10:21 AM | Report abuse

Does anyone else find it odd that the vast majority of comments here seem to be coming from conservative Republicans -- who ostensibly do not subscribe to this newspaper?

Posted by: brickerd

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Anyone find it odd that there are not enough liberals to support this state run rag? And that except for a few hardcore moonbat regulars... in the past few months the vast majority of the comments have been from independents and moderates who are appalled at the Obama regime and their hard left neo-commie policies?

Posted by: Straightline | April 9, 2010 10:20 AM | Report abuse

billdollar wrote:

High unemployment will continue for years because America has no manufacturing jobs. No industry, no jobs!

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

So where is the party of the working man? You have had control for quite some time now. Where are the reciprocal trade agreements? Where are the tariffs on communist Chinese goods which under cut our manufacturers? Where are the border controls to ensure that jobs go to Americans - not illegals who are victimized and artificially hold wages down?

Where are all these things which would create jobs?

Posted by: VirginiaConservative | April 9, 2010 10:20 AM | Report abuse

What will you do when President Palin appoints Rush Limbaugh to oversee your account?

==

Time to wake up.... Time to wake up ... Time to wake up.,,

Palin's done.

Posted by: Noacoler | April 9, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse

The guy is a baby killer and a traiter to white people. At least he is smart enough to take the hint that if he values HIS OWN LIFE, that he GET OUT OF POLITICS. All of the Dims should take the hint.

Posted by: ToddPollard | April 9, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse

C'mon, Chris. There's got to be a backstory here, maybe something only the Michiganders know about. Public "outrage" over passage of health care reform is a manufactured exaggeration crafted by the extreme right, as should become clear as some of the benefits of the new law kick in. Got any contacts in MI? Ferret out the real deal and don't buy the conventional wisdom on this.

***

A "Bushie Watch List?"
IS AN OMAMA 'TRUE JUSTICE SQUAD' QUIETLY WORKING TO RESTORE CIVIL AND HUMAN RIGHTS?

Is an Eric Holder DOJ "True Justice Squad" keeping book on rogue Bush holdovers across the bureaucracy...

as some Bushie leave-behinds continue to oversee secret multi-agency programs of covert microwave torture, police-protected vigilante community harassment, and financial sabotage of extrajudicially and unjustly "targeted" American citizens...

...many targeted for their politics, activism, or ethnic background?

Vic Livingston reports -- see latest comments to:

http://nowpublic.com/world/u-s-govt-uses-cbs-news-cover-microwave-cell-tower-torture
http://NowPublic.com/scrivener RE: "U.S. Silently..."

ATTENTION 'PROJECT GENEVA' TEAM MEMBERS:
See "comments" section of article linked above. Res ipsa...

Posted by: scrivener50 | April 9, 2010 10:18 AM | Report abuse

"MEDOGSBSTFRND" USED THE "T" WORD LIKE ALL GOOD LITTLE LEFTIES DO...AND HOPES ANOTHER BABY KILLER TAKES STUPAK'S PLACE. HE ADVISES US TO "READ THE TEA LEAVES" BUT HE/SHE SHOULD FOLLOW THAT ADVICE AS WELL. THEY MAY TELL A STORY HE/SHE WON'T LIKE. AND ARE YOU SURE STUPAK REALLY IS RETIRING? I REMEMBER HE CHANGED HIS MIND BEFORE. LOOKS LIKE THE GREAT STATE OF MICHIGAN'S UNEMPLOYMENT RATE MIGHT BE READY FOR AN INCREASE.

Posted by: ddnfla | April 9, 2010 10:18 AM | Report abuse

Well one less.. of the current majority to lose in the Nov elections.
He was proof that once again when you have NO personal character then any decision is OK.
Wonder how Nancy and the WH will spin the first of many defections, loss and run away from the new Socialist Democratic Party (SDP).

Posted by: NeoConVeteran | April 9, 2010 10:18 AM | Report abuse

Stupak, along with many other corrupt D.C. politicians, are all up to be "retired" anyway. Politicians have lost track of who the boss is........and it ain't obama..
.......IT IS "WE THE PEOPLE". Get your resumes updated. The battle cry is "Remember in NO-vember" and that, my fine feathered friend, applies to both parties.

Posted by: carbar4647 | April 9, 2010 10:17 AM | Report abuse

This is sad - poor guy getting bullied out of office. Guess there's no room for moderates in either party.

Posted by: rikkirat | April 9, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Does anyone else find it odd that the vast majority of comments here seem to be coming from conservative Republicans -- who ostensibly do not subscribe to this newspaper?

Posted by: brickerd | April 9, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse

So? Hope all the blue dogs get run out. Doesn't mean the teabaggers are shoeins. Wake up, people want health care reform What is the Republican plan? Bunch of crybabies.

Posted by: SarahBB | April 9, 2010 10:15 AM | Report abuse

I HAVE TO ADMIRE BART STUPAK HE DID WHAT HE THOUGHT WAS RIGHT FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.HE FORCED PRESIDENT OBAMA TO SIGN THE ANTI ABBORTION ORDER.NO FEDERAL FUNDS

SOME OF THE PEOPLE POSTING SHOULD STOP AND THINK WE NEED STRONG PEOPLE!!! NOT PANSYS WHO FOLLOW THE [BOTH PARTYS] PARTYS LIKE SHEEP
WE AS AMERICANS SHOULD LINE UP TO THANK BARK STUPAK FOR DEFENDING THE AMERICAN RIGHTS OVER THE LOBBIST MONEY TO DEFEAT HEALTH CARE REFORM.

THANK YOU BART STUPAK I WISH YOU WOULD RUN AGAIN TO HELP A FEW GOOD REPUBLICANS IMPROVE THE HEALTH CARE REFORM IT MAY TAKE SEVERAL YEARS TO MAKE IT RIGHT,BUT IT WAS NEEDED
BART STUPAK THANK YOU AGAIN A TRUE AMERICAN

Posted by: theoldmansays | April 9, 2010 10:14 AM | Report abuse

I hope he'll be able to live with himself; I won't be surprised if I read that he has killed himself because of the guilt.

Posted by: iphony | April 9, 2010 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Republicans care about people before they're born because they are helpless and innocent of wrongdoing. After they're born, it's up to them and the decisions they make.

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And if they die of hunger or treatable illness a week after birth, does any Republican care?

No.

Their decision, right?

Idiot.

Posted by: Noacoler | April 9, 2010 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Republicans care about people before they're born because they are helpless and innocent of wrongdoing. After they're born, it's up to them and the decisions they make.

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And if they die of hunger or treatable illness a week after birth, does any Republican care?

No.

Their decision, right?

Idiot.

Posted by: Noacoler | April 9, 2010 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Cross dressing fool - I notice how you cleverly avoid addressing the sub third grade intellect of Biden and the idiotic rants of Obama sans teleprompter.

Tough to rationalize having one of the dimmest bulbs in American political history being one heartbeat away from the oval office - while you disparage someone who is not running for office, but clearly she scares the crap out of you.

Just think, goofy, you wanted the government to run health care.

What will you do when President Palin appoints Rush Limbaugh to oversee your account?

Think it can't happen?

Paybacks are delightful - and they are coming.

So, avoid the 2012 rush to Wades to get some rope, and go ahead and off yourself now. Now, you may get a headline or two.
In 2012, you will be just another cockroach looking for free space on a rafter - or access to a tall building.

Oh, and your dopey stance on abortion? Too bad your mother and the rest of the baby killing maniacs didn't practice what you insist is their right. America would be a better place.

I will give you this - you certainly prove your guppy analogy.

Posted by: VirginiaConservative | April 9, 2010 10:14 AM | Report abuse

As the U.S. slips deeper and deeper into the modern Dark Ages...........

Posted by: gschultens | April 9, 2010 10:13 AM | Report abuse

"Republicans care about people before they're born because they are helpless and innocent of wrongdoing. After they're born, it's up to them and the decisions they make.

Posted by: ronjaboy | April 9, 2010 10:06 AM"

This statement explains a lot about repugs. All those irresponsible, unpatriotic, country-hating babies and toddlers out there!

Posted by: solsticebelle | April 9, 2010 10:13 AM | Report abuse

Yet another free seat for the Republicans, as the rats flee the sinking ship! The Democratic Party is collapsing before our eyes, and all due to Obama and Pelosi.

More Democratic resignations are coming, along with some Blue Dogs in the House and moderate Democrats in the Senate switching party affiliation over to the GOP!

The Republicans are back on top after November 2010!

Posted by: Realist201 | April 9, 2010 10:12 AM | Report abuse

Stupak sold out. He sees the coming storm in November.


PRINCETON, NJ -- Americans' favorable rating of the Democratic Party dropped to 41% in a late March USA Today/Gallup poll, the lowest point in the 18-year history of this measure. Gallup


The TEA PARTY is fast catching up to the Democrat party. The poor old Republican party is ahead of the Democrat party at this very moment. These facts despite the all-out jihad against everything non-Democrat by the MSM, including The Washington Post.

Propaganda only works when the masses are kept ignorant.

Posted by: battleground51 | April 9, 2010 10:12 AM | Report abuse

when bart stupak caved in on the health care bill at the 11th hour, you can be sure obama said he'd be handsomely rewarded for "taking one for the team."

expect stupak to be named secretary of homeland security after janet napolitano is tapped to fill the next SCOTUS vacancy.

Posted by: potomacfever00 | April 9, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse

The link below is to a video of Stupak PLANNING to "cave" MONTHS before the vote.

He was NEVER the man pro-life people thought he was.

Good riddance- and I wish he would take his other baby traitors with him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URr68joWr1E

Posted by: melatr7 | April 9, 2010 10:10 AM | Report abuse

He has sold his soul, he has taken some with him.
Nancy and Obama are dancing as the Pied Piper.

Posted by: RayOne | April 9, 2010 10:10 AM | Report abuse

The writing is on the polls. Stupak knows he will lose, so why bother running.

He knows that his actions are ones that cemented Democrats as governing against the will of the people. The spring recess will reveal to many just how far they crossed the line.

Posted by: thelaw1 | April 9, 2010 10:10 AM | Report abuse


HA HA HA HA HA Bart "Judas" Stupak has been officially Tea Bagged.

How did selling your soul to the Devil in chief work out for you Bart? Doh!

Posted by: Straightline | April 9, 2010 10:09 AM | Report abuse

THIS PROBABLY WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED IF WE HAD 2 TWO YEAR TERM LIMITS, PAID A REASONABLE SALARY OF $40,000 PER YEAR, WHAT THE AVERAGE AMERICAN MAKES, TO THE SENATORS THE HOUSE MEMBERS AND QUEEN PELOSI. WE WOULD CHOOSE WHAT THE PAY WAS NOT THE SENATORS. WHO ELSE BUT THE SENATORS GET TO DECIDE HOW MUCH OF THE AMERICAN TAXPAYER DOLLARS THEY GET TO PAY THEMSELVES AS A SALARY AND THEY GET FIRST DOLLAR HEALTH CARE COVERAGE THAT WE PAY FOR. IF THERE WERE TERM LIMITS A NORMAL SALARY AND THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO TRADE THEIR VOTES TO LOBBYISTS FOR MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THEY SUCK UP AT AMERICAN TAXPAYERS EXPENSE NOW. WE WOULD NOT HAVE THIS PROBLEM. WE HAVE THIS PROBLEM BECAUSE THEY BECOME CAREER POLITICIANS WHO DO US ABSOLUTELY NO GOOD. THEY WORK FOR WE THE PEOPLE BUT THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT US OR THEY WOULD NOT HAVE PASSED THE HEALTH CARE BILL AND ALL OF THE OTHER MINDLESS BILLS THEY HAVE PASSED AS THEY TRADED THEIR VOTE FOR CASH. ALL OF THE CONGRESS NEEDS TO BE REPLACED AS THEY HAVE DONE A TERRIBLE JOB. IF THEY ACTUALLY WORKED FOR THEIR MONEY AT A BUSINESS(THE US GOVERNMENT IS THE BIGGEST BUSINESS IN THE UNITED STATES BUT THEY DON'T GET THAT THEY JUST THROW OUR MONEY AWAY, BUY AIRPLANES FOR QUEEN PELOSI AND GROW SO OLD WITH A CONGRESSIONAL JOB THAT THEY PASS BILLS AND DROOL ON THEIR SWEETERS SITTING IN THEIR WHEELCHAIRS). WE NEED TO THROW THEM OUT ALL OF THEM AND START OVER AND PASS TERM LIMITS.

Posted by: MaryThresher | April 9, 2010 10:09 AM | Report abuse

THIS PROBABLY WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED IF WE HAD 2 TWO YEAR TERM LIMITS, PAID A REASONABLE SALARY OF $40,000 PER YEAR, WHAT THE AVERAGE AMERICAN MAKES, TO THE SENATORS THE HOUSE MEMBERS AND QUEEN PELOSI. WE WOULD CHOOSE WHAT THE PAY WAS NOT THE SENATORS. WHO ELSE BUT THE SENATORS GET TO DECIDE HOW MUCH OF THE AMERICAN TAXPAYER DOLLARS THEY GET TO PAY THEMSELVES AS A SALARY AND THEY GET FIRST DOLLAR HEALTH CARE COVERAGE THAT WE PAY FOR. IF THERE WERE TERM LIMITS A NORMAL SALARY AND THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO TRADE THEIR VOTES TO LOBBYISTS FOR MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THEY SUCK UP AT AMERICAN TAXPAYERS EXPENSE NOW. WE WOULD NOT HAVE THIS PROBLEM. WE HAVE THIS PROBLEM BECAUSE THEY BECOME CAREER POLITICIANS WHO DO US ABSOLUTELY NO GOOD. THEY WORK FOR WE THE PEOPLE BUT THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT US OR THEY WOULD NOT HAVE PASSED THE HEALTH CARE BILL AND ALL OF THE OTHER MINDLESS BILLS THEY HAVE PASSED AS THEY TRADED THEIR VOTE FOR CASH. ALL OF THE CONGRESS NEEDS TO BE REPLACED AS THEY HAVE DONE A TERRIBLE JOB. IF THEY ACTUALLY WORKED FOR THEIR MONEY AT A BUSINESS(THE US GOVERNMENT IS THE BIGGEST BUSINESS IN THE UNITED STATES BUT THEY DON'T GET THAT THEY JUST THROW OUR MONEY AWAY, BUY AIRPLANES FOR QUEEN PELOSI AND GROW SO OLD WITH A CONGRESSIONAL JOB THAT THEY PASS BILLS AND DROOL ON THEIR SWEETERS SITTING IN THEIR WHEELCHAIRS). WE NEED TO THROW THEM OUT ALL OF THEM AND START OVER AND PASS TERM LIMITS.

Posted by: MaryThresher | April 9, 2010 10:09 AM | Report abuse

Good. Replace him with a pro-choice liberal. We're tired of Democrats who eke out "victories" on the backs of poor women. The teabaggers need to read the tea leaves: this is not the retirement of a liberal. It's the retirement of a blue dog democrat.

Posted by: medogsbstfrnd | April 9, 2010 10:08 AM | Report abuse

37thand0street, you must be kidding about bipartisanship during Clinton and Bush II administrations. The Republicans have had their heels dug in ever since Clinton was elected. Alhtough he tried to reach out to them, just as Obama does, they refuse to participate. You might remember the years and millions of dollars wasted on a frivolous impeachment? As for Bush, it was his way or the highway. WIth lockstep Republican Congresses for 6 of 8 years, he virtually ignored the Democrats. They set the tone of partisanship, now they need to live with the consequences.

Posted by: kmar20009 | April 9, 2010 10:08 AM | Report abuse

37thand0street, you must be kidding about bipartisanship during Clinton and Bush II administrations. The Republicans have had their heels dug in ever since Clinton was elected. Alhtough he tried to reach out to them, just as Obama does, they refuse to participate. You might remember the years and millions of dollars wasted on a frivolous impeachment? As for Bush, it was his way or the highway. WIth lockstep Republican Congresses for 6 of 8 years, he virtually ignored the Democrats. They set the tone of partisanship, now they need to live with the consequences.

Posted by: kmar20009 | April 9, 2010 10:07 AM | Report abuse

37thand0street, you must be kidding about bipartisanship during Clinton and Bush II administrations. The Republicans have had their heels dug in ever since Clinton was elected. Alhtough he tried to reach out to them, just as Obama does, they refuse to participate. You might remember the years and millions of dollars wasted on a frivolous impeachment? As for Bush, it was his way or the highway. WIth lockstep Republican Congresses for 6 of 8 years, he virtually ignored the Democrats. They set the tone of partisanship, now they need to live with the consequences.

Posted by: kmar20009 | April 9, 2010 10:07 AM | Report abuse

Cowardess is a hard pill to swallow for a blowhard.

Posted by: GordonShumway | April 9, 2010 10:07 AM | Report abuse

Without reservation, I will say that the Democrats will be better off with Stupak out of the mix. His inane babble about what was or was not paid for in the health care bill as it applied to abortion was over the top. To threaten to stop the legislation over a point that he took that was so wrong that everyone but he knew it was embarrassing. He claims to be burned out, and he is right. Let a new Democrat take over and show the way.

Posted by: ronjeske | April 9, 2010 10:07 AM | Report abuse

Republicans care about people before they're born because they are helpless and innocent of wrongdoing. After they're born, it's up to them and the decisions they make.

Posted by: ronjaboy | April 9, 2010 10:06 AM | Report abuse

Republicans care about people before they're born because they are helpless and innocent of wrongdoing. After they're born, it's up to them and the decisions they make.

Posted by: ronjaboy | April 9, 2010 10:05 AM | Report abuse

Stupak is just one of the many "phoneys" in congress that should retire before they go through the pain of getting kicked out by the voters in November.

Posted by: badgerburg | April 9, 2010 10:04 AM | Report abuse

America is now a country of mostly lost souls who continue to gravel like dogs fighting over spoiled meat. Glenn Beck makes 34 million a year for being a fool, so what else would you expect from where this country is now! High unemployment will continue for years because America has no manufacturing jobs. No industry, no jobs! Yet the GOP misfits will continue to destroy America with their hatred and pea brains and foolish ideas.

Posted by: billdollar | April 9, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

In the name of love, liberals hate everyone who thinks differently from them.

Posted by: pkhenry | April 9, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

I am a pro-choice woman and hope Representative Stupak will reconsider. He seems to be a civil representative who stands by his principles and is willing to compromise for the greater good of all Americans. We need more like him.

Posted by: njglea | April 9, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

What a shame to look back over one's life and see that the only courageous act one performed resulted in one's political end.
Could it be that the act was neither courageous nor well performed?
Me thinks so.

Posted by: bgreen2224 | April 9, 2010 10:02 AM | Report abuse

There were traitors aplenty in the health care vote.

This man was both traitor and coward.

Good riddance to him.

And, hopefully, to Pelosi and Reid and their pathetic minions in November.

And, most of all, in 2012 to our spendthrift of a POTUS who has also damaged national security with his wimpish actions vis-a-vis the nuclear deterrent, relations with key allies and especially, his ponying up to Iran.

Posted by: jayjay9 | April 9, 2010 10:02 AM | Report abuse

Good riddance to an anti-Woman pig!

A Woman's Right To Choose is our highest freedom. This clown nearly derailed healthcare due to his sentimental moralizing.

Don't let the door hit you, Stoop.

Posted by: jeff9741 | April 9, 2010 10:01 AM | Report abuse

The collapse of the Democratic party continues - their socialistic agenda will destroy them!

Posted by: Realist201 | April 9, 2010 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Hmm, I wonder how the party of dead babies, surrender, degeneracy and lying covers up the stench of Biden's less than 3rd grade intellect?

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How much horsepower doe it take to keep that feeble brain of yours marinated in this nonsense?

Dead babies? You mean aborted fetuses? If there's a moral issue there then there's a greater one in a dead guppy, because a guppy has more of a mind than a human fetus at the time of most abortions.

Surrender? When did this happen?

Degeneracy? What do fermions and polynomials have to do with this discussion?

Why don't you mosey over to Wade's and buy another few boxes of cartridges, Cletus.

And I'm not Rudy Giuliani.

Posted by: Noacoler | April 9, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse

Correction: His seat encompasses all of the Upper Peninsula and about 1/3 of the Lower Peninsula: http://api.ning.com/files/YfijOjbcjGbfEB--oWFipmLJwqNaqRm3ND7r4hWKzWg2nYYmK77IA-4Q4HFssdU0MtGDwTMoVfPpU-z0i5lS0TNb7Kgb3Qba/Michdist1map.jpg

Posted by: dc-nater | April 9, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse

Stupak seemed like a decent guy who had a genuine struggle with his conscience. But why did he cast a vote that he didn't want to cast, and *then* quit? If he was going to lose his job anyway, why not vote his conscience? Weird.

Posted by: liam358 | April 9, 2010 9:54 AM | Report abuse

After reading many of these comments, I fear for my country. The hatred has to stop, and it's embarrassing that we have these left/right "debates" while China takes over the economic landscape, and India's not far behind. We are losing our way - we need to start thinking as Americans, not as "socialists" and "rightwingers." It's us against them - not us against us.

Posted by: DoubledownDC | April 9, 2010 9:54 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade

I see Drudge linked here again.
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So did the Huffington Post. Your point being?

Posted by: websterr1 | April 9, 2010 9:54 AM | Report abuse

An allenridge plantation posting! Look for an allenridge wolfpack press posting, coming soon to a message board near you.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | April 9, 2010 9:53 AM | Report abuse

Why are so many dems running away from obama,they are quiting or don't want him in there district,or just desiding not to run for reelection.

Posted by: samuellenn | April 9, 2010 9:52 AM | Report abuse

Ha Ha Ha!

HooRay for the Tea Party!!!!

Keep it up!!!

It's gonna be a GREAT year for America!!!

Posted by: jhayne5 | April 9, 2010 9:51 AM | Report abuse

The period of 1980-2008 may be regarded as one period in American history - all the President in that time were able to reach across to the other party - and hold the center in elections.


Perhaps Obama has started a different era - of alternating extremes which battle the centers.

If one thinks about it, Reagan was able to capture the Reagan democrats in order to win elections - and then he governed with the democrats in Congress - and the result was CENTRIST policies.

Bill Clinton was able to capture a center-right coalition - and he ultimately governed from the center as well.

Later, most of the Republican complaints about the second Bush was that he governed too much from the center - that Bush strayed from the conservative principles especially in fiscal policies.

NOW THE EXTREMES ARE TAKING OVER BOTH PARTIES.

We might have alternating extremist governments.

Today is significant because it signals that the centrist democrats are done - and the far-left has taken over the democratic party.

What is clear is Obama has done this to himself - it is a serious set of mistakes which led to today - and we have a situation where Obama is way beyond the point of no-return.


Obama is out there - he is off the reservation - and he is going to be looking at all sorts of desperation tactics - which is going to be really really ugly.

You can see it on his face too.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 9, 2010 9:51 AM | Report abuse

What a MAN this guy is!!!

He screws everything up and then he cuts bait and RUNS!!

This guy was a " PHONY !! "

Posted by: yojoe | April 9, 2010 9:51 AM | Report abuse

Why aren't you frothing rightwingnuts down in New Orleans whacking off to your dream girls Palin and Bachmann?
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Give up the projection, komrade, its wearing thin.

Posted by: VirginiaConservative | April 9, 2010 9:51 AM | Report abuse

Why aren't you frothing rightwingnuts down in New Orleans whacking off to your dream girls Palin and Bachmann?

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | April 9, 2010 9:45 AM

who do you and other liberals "whack off" to? janet napolitano?

Posted by: doof | April 9, 2010 9:51 AM | Report abuse

Wow retiring so soon Bart ?

The DNC must have stuffed that offshore account with allot money.

Posted by: dashriprock | April 9, 2010 9:50 AM | Report abuse

Mr. Stupack, I wish you would reconsider.

- a moderate, pro-life independent

Posted by: Voiceinthedesert | April 9, 2010 9:49 AM | Report abuse

He's retiring because he knew he would get his ass kicked in the next election. He's a weasel.

Posted by: faircma | April 9, 2010 9:48 AM | Report abuse

I hope to heck we can all become a lot more civil. The vicious, insane levels in our current politics are beyond unreasonable.

We can agree to disagree. We can fight the good fights open and honestly. We don't have to threaten doom, death and mayhem.

Posted by: pointpetre

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Not to worry pointpeter, After the crushing of the dems in Nov, you can expect that Conservatives and the Tea Party will level as much respect, co-operation and bi-partisanship as the loony left has shown them.

Posted by: Straightline | April 9, 2010 9:48 AM | Report abuse

Wow retiring so soon Bart ?

The DNC must have stuffed that offshore account with allot money.

Posted by: dashriprock | April 9, 2010 9:47 AM | Report abuse

The amusing thing is that a vote in favor of Health Care Reform WAS a pro-life vote.

Why is it that most Republicans only care about people BEFORE they're born, and don't really give a crap about them AFTER they come out of the womb?

No wonder they're going to be the minority party for the next 40 years or so.

Posted by: Bondosan |
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Huh ? Please reference all the Democrat Party plantations that exist in EVERY deep blue one-party city.

Check out Plantation Anacostia if you're in DC.......

Sad......the Democrats really don't care about poor people, they just like to generate them.......sad and true (plantation Anacostia........)

Posted by: allenridge | April 9, 2010 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Stupak was not much of a Democrat, so I won't miss him. But he was a victim of the vicious rightwing hatred sweeping this country, a direct result of the teabaggers:


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Stupak, as his wife inadvertently told a reporter, was a victim of Nancy Pelosi's actual brown shirts. Not the Harvey the 6 foot rabbit ones that the left constantly conjures up to portray themselves as victim.

If Stupak had been a man of principle, which demonstrably he is not, he would have withstood the onslaught of the democrat long knives and held his ground.

But he didn't. He is a personal and professional coward. He knows it, the public knows it, and is constituents have it seared, SEARED onto their brains.

Lets keep what actually happened. Had Stupak been a "victim" of his constituents, he would not have caved to Obama and Pelosi. In the real world, he is paying the price for cowardice and duplicity.

Tea partiers have nothing to do with it - other than their exercise of their constitutional rights.

Remember when protest was the highest form of patriotism? I believe that was the botox queen who coined that phrase.

He is a "victim" of his own craven nature.

Posted by: VirginiaConservative | April 9, 2010 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Why aren't you frothing rightwingnuts down in New Orleans whacking off to your dream girls Palin and Bachmann?

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | April 9, 2010 9:45 AM | Report abuse

Stupak was and is a coward.

Posted by: gorams1 | April 9, 2010 9:43 AM | Report abuse

doof:in fact, if the sun comes up tomorrow (not guaranteed at all)
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Actually it is guaranteed. It is the matter of seeing it that is not guaranteed.

Posted by: warhawk911 | April 9, 2010 9:43 AM | Report abuse

well say good by to the baby killer and America killer - who pretended he wasn't until he had to take a stand. and the stand he took was kill America and help kill babbies.

Posted by: infantry11b4faus | April 9, 2010 9:43 AM | Report abuse

In fact, if the Republicans gain seats (not guaranteed at all)

Posted by: 1EgoNemo | April 9, 2010 9:28 AM

in fact, if the sun comes up tomorrow (not guaranteed at all)

Posted by: doof | April 9, 2010 9:40 AM | Report abuse

The amusing thing is that a vote in favor of Health Care Reform WAS a pro-life vote.

Why is it that most Republicans only care about people BEFORE they're born, and don't really give a crap about them AFTER they come out of the womb?

No wonder they're going to be the minority party for the next 40 years or so.

Posted by: Bondosan | April 9, 2010 9:40 AM | Report abuse

I hope to heck we can all become a lot more civil. The vicious, insane levels in our current politics are beyond unreasonable.

We can agree to disagree. We can fight the good fights open and honestly. We don't have to threaten doom, death and mayhem.

Posted by: pointpetre | April 9, 2010 9:28 AM | Report abuse

Couldn't agree more. If you disagree with Stupak, fine. He clearly is a principled man who arrived at a difficult decision through a long and very public process.

Posted by: DCRI | April 9, 2010 9:39 AM | Report abuse

This spineless guy is a coward pro lifer as it now shows!

Posted by: FloridaCitizen | April 9, 2010 9:39 AM | Report abuse

Moonbat, name an "honest" reporter.

Posted by: concernedaboutdc | April 9, 2010 9:39 AM | Report abuse

Stupak was not much of a Democrat, so I won't miss him. But he was a victim of the vicious rightwing hatred sweeping this country, a direct result of the teabaggers:

'Anger over the health-care overhaul has led to a nearly threefold increase in recent months in the number of serious threats against members of Congress, federal law enforcement officials said.

The lawmakers reported 42 threats in the first three months of this year, compared with 15 in last three months of 2009, said Senate Sergeant-at-Arms Terrance W. Gainer, who had information about threats involving both chambers.

"The incidents ranged from very vulgar to serious threats, including death threats," Gainer said. "The ability to carry them out is another question and part of an investigation to determine what, if any, appropriate steps to take."

Nearly all of the recent threats appear to come from opponents of the health-care overhaul, said Gainer, who also served four years as chief of the U.S. Capitol Police. And, he said, there have been "significantly more" threats against House members than against senators. "

These brownshirts are so sick with violence they don't even try to hide it any more.

Posted by: drindl | April 9, 2010 9:39 AM | Report abuse

A cross dressing degenerate wrote:

Nothing "Socialist" about it, Jethro. She walked away from her responsibilities and the only explanation was some incoherent attempt at a Reagan one-liner, something to do with dead fish.

Funny as hell that a lot of you cretins think that dumb hick is presidential timber.

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Sorry, little one - it is exactly the same thing. We all adore the leftist sneering elitism which educates us to the fact that we are soooo stupid, and they are so bright.

Hmm, I wonder how the party of dead babies, surrender, degeneracy and lying covers up the stench of Biden's less than 3rd grade intellect?

With 57 states? Corpseman?

Stupak, as so many other socialists, understand clearly the writing on the wall. Their political careers are now sewage. So they cut and run. The grand experiment of electing an unqualified, inner city vote rigger has been an un qualified disaster - and they are paying with their careers for support this idiocy.

Well, as they say:

Buuuuhhh Bye! Don't let the door hit you in the Obama.

Posted by: VirginiaConservative | April 9, 2010 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Turns out berry himself begged this guy to stay on Wednesday.

Now even elected dems won't listen to the empty vessel dear Reader. I know the rest of us stopped paying attention long before the recent 17 minute non answer ramble. Come to think of it , has berry ever answered a difficult question from an honest reporter.

Posted by: Moonbat | April 9, 2010 9:37 AM | Report abuse

What does it say about this country when the positive ratings between it's two major political parties, Democrats and Republicans, are 41 and 42%, respectively?

It sounds to me that those who answer polls just don't like the government, at all...

Posted by: concernedaboutdc | April 9, 2010 9:37 AM | Report abuse

Creepy guy. He enjoyed the limelight for weeks as the hero of the Conservatives for his stance, and then he sold out for a piece of paper which will be burned the minute the committees are set up to administer this atrocity. He's no better than a 2-dollar hooker if you ask me, here's hoping he has a miserable retirement.

Posted by: JamesChristian | April 9, 2010 9:36 AM | Report abuse

Obama and the democrats DECIDED TO SACRIFICE the centrists in their party.

To many democrats, that meant they would have to work really difficult races all summer and fall


ONLY TO LOSE BECAUSE OF OBAMA


One by one they are saying - forget it - if Obama and the liberals don't care about me, why should I exert a major effort ???


This is an Obama loss.

These centrists are beginning to reason - WHY SHOULD THE CENTRIST WING DO ALL THE HEAVY LIFTING IN THE CAMPAIGNS - ONLY TO HAVE THE LIBERALS TAKE CONTROL AFTER THE ELECTION - AND THEN MAKE THE CENTRISTS' CAMPAIGNS EVEN MORE DIFFICULT ???

Then you have guys like broadwayjoe - who arrogantly will blame guys like Stupak the whole way through.

Threats, intimidation, - union pressure - all OBAMA DRIVEN - this why the democrats are getting out.

Obama is not worth it - he is going to be impeached next year.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 9, 2010 9:35 AM | Report abuse

Good riddance C Street Stupak.

Posted by: Really5 | April 9, 2010 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Actually, Bart Stupak seems like a very principled person who was not afraid to make tough decisions that caused angst on both sided. Let’s thank him for his long public service and wish him well. God Bless

Posted by: navyvet | April 9, 2010 9:33 AM | Report abuse

YEAH, let's go back to the days where the GOP drove the country ...

Posted by: jfern03 | April 9, 2010 9:16 AM

...and everyone had jobs.

Posted by: doof | April 9, 2010 9:33 AM | Report abuse

"What was the socialist mantra about Palin quitting??????

Posted by: VirginiaConservative | April 9, 2010 9:17 AM | Report abuse"

Who mentioned Palin, nutbag? You mean the quitter who quit in the middle of her term? That Palin?

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | April 9, 2010 9:32 AM | Report abuse

Dun dun dun, another bites the dust! See ya stu. Take Nancy with you. LOL!

Posted by: gorams1 | April 9, 2010 9:31 AM | Report abuse

There is no such thing as a prolife democrat unless the life is on death row and can vote,lets not forget if you have integrity and honor you can not be a democrat in Washington.

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Amen

Posted by: Straightline | April 9, 2010 9:30 AM | Report abuse

Bart, just because your out of Congress soon, doesn't mean Big Brother is turning off the channel!

Posted by: theaz | April 9, 2010 9:30 AM | Report abuse

There is no such thing as a prolife democrat unless the life is on death row and can vote,lets not forget if you have integrity and honor you can not be a democrat in Washington.

Posted by: jburo | April 9, 2010 9:28 AM | Report abuse

I've given money to Connie Saltonstall for her challenge to Bart Stupak. Nevertheless, I felt a great deal of empathy when Bart talked about how difficult this stuggle was for his staff and himself and it was clear that the level of vitriol was intensely draining. He appeared exhausted. Still, I did not think he would step down, nor did I think Connie would have defeated him in the primary - although her money seeking emails have been optimistic.

I hope to heck we can all become a lot more civil. The vicious, insane levels in our current politics are beyond unreasonable.

We can agree to disagree. We can fight the good fights open and honestly. We don't have to threaten doom, death and mayhem.

Posted by: pointpetre | April 9, 2010 9:28 AM | Report abuse

Good riddance to a coward and a betrayer of the American public. Next on the list: Obama

Posted by: hill_marty | April 9, 2010 9:28 AM | Report abuse

Well what do you know, somebody finally reported that there are more Republicans are retiring from the U.S. House this year than Democrats.

Now, how has it gone this long without anyone plainly reporting that fact?

Of course, we will be told that the Republicans will retain more retiree seats than the Democrats will theirs, but that is due entirely to district-line drawing that favors the Republicans.

The Democrats will not lost one seat (if they actually lose any seats at all) in districts where Democrats have been consistently popular. They will only lose seats (if they lose any at all) in districts gerrymandered to aid Republicans in the first place.

So, any loss of Democratic seats (if there is any loss at all) merely represents Republicans regaining seats that were pre-ordained by Republican gerrymanderers to elect Republicans.

If there are any Democratic seat losses (which is by no means a given) the Republicans will trumpet them as a sign of a 'shift' in voters' affections, or as a 'comment' on Democratic leadership in this name.

In fact, if the Republicans gain seats (not guaranteed at all) they will be gaining back seats that they purchased through corruption at the state legislative level -- AND EVEN THEN (this part is guaranteed no matter the outcome) the REPUBLICANS WILL STILL BE IN THE MINORITY.

As Claudius said, "So much for them."

Posted by: 1EgoNemo | April 9, 2010 9:28 AM | Report abuse

Good riddance to a coward and a betrayer of the American public. Next on the list: Obama

Posted by: hill_marty | April 9, 2010 9:28 AM | Report abuse

Stupak positioned himself as a principalled politician, who would vote his pro-life beliefs.

Than he abandoned his pro-life principals under enormous political pressure.

Stupak in the end showed he was a typical politician... and is now loathed by Right and Left.

His behavior feeds the cynicism across the electorate, and equally bad, destroys the credibility of pro-life Democrats.

Who will ever believe a pro-life Dem is really pro-life ?

Tragic.

Posted by: pvilso24 | April 9, 2010 9:27 AM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe


You have been told a hundred times to stop with the deceptive postings -


Your posting at 9:14 is just such an example

All retirements are NOT created equally - and there is a MAJOR difference between a retirement which places a district as likely to switch parties - in contrast to a retirement in a relatively safe district which is NOT likely to switch parties.

But you CONTINUE WITH YOUR ARROGANT ATTITUDE IN WHICH YOU INSIST ON CREATING DECEPTIONS.


This is clearly a personality flaw as well as outright lying.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 9, 2010 9:26 AM | Report abuse

Score another GOP gain in the House of Representatives in the upcoming Midterms!

Posted by: Realist201 | April 9, 2010 9:04 AM

yep, things looking real good for republicans. we can add stupak retirement to the special elections in hawaii and pennsylvania. we have a good shot at picking up all three.

stupak was a traitor. good to see him go.

Posted by: doof | April 9, 2010 9:26 AM | Report abuse

Bye bye Bart! Wow, yet another "unforced error" by the Dems.

Seriously, maybe the RNC should start taking up a collection to actually get Obama, the Typhoid Mary of politics, to actively campaign for incumbent Democrats.

Posted by: luca_20009 | April 9, 2010 9:26 AM | Report abuse

I see Drudge linked here again.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | April 9, 2010 9:25 AM | Report abuse

What was the socialist mantra about Palin quitting??????

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Nothing "Socialist" about it, Jethro. She walked away from her responsibilities and the only explanation was some incoherent attempt at a Reagan one-liner, something to do with dead fish.

Funny as hell that a lot of you cretins think that dumb hick is presidential timber.

As they say in sports:

A quitter never wins
And a winner never quits.

Posted by: Noacoler | April 9, 2010 9:24 AM | Report abuse

You sold you soul to the devil himself(OBAMA)
Screw us over.
And then you quit.

Classic COWARD!!!

How's that hopey changey thing going for ya Bart?

Posted by: bozobabbling | April 9, 2010 9:24 AM | Report abuse

To Ohreallynow:

A lot, a lot, and a lot. The difference between me and you is that I do so voluntarily while you advocate the government raping me of my hard-earned money and giving it to people who are overall worthless grubs of society.

Posted by: crisp11 | April 9, 2010 9:23 AM | Report abuse

Sad that the man who gave the impression of not being a radical was so pressured by his party that he was made to caved in. It must have been very difficult for him.

I'm sure it leaves a bad taste in his mouth. He will not be helped by Dems now that they got what they wanted and he will be seen as a coward by his own constituents.

Good luck in the future and I hope you can stand for your beliefs the next time round - it is difficult but surely not as difficult as this.

Posted by: sally62 | April 9, 2010 9:23 AM | Report abuse

He sells out to Obama and then quits.
A gutless, spineless S.O.B.

Posted by: state82 | April 9, 2010 9:23 AM | Report abuse

He wanted to go and make some private sector money. Don't be fooled. He is retiring from 'politics' at least from the government side, but the lobby movement is alive and strong.

I have yet to be convinced that my health care benefits will be interrupted or minimized with the Health Care Reform bill and I have asked many, many questions from staffers on the hill.

Truth is, it will remain exactly as it is. I have benefit options through my job that are not going to change (according to our Human Resources staff).

I hear loud rhetoric suggesting something different, but no substance behind the argument. Which makes it just 'noise'. Something I have learned to ignore.

Posted by: concernedaboutdc | April 9, 2010 9:23 AM | Report abuse

If you can't stand the heat...

Posted by: waterfrontproperty | April 9, 2010 9:22 AM | Report abuse

jfern03:YEAH, let's go back to the days where the GOP drove the country into the ground, protected wall street so they could keep you in financial bondage, and to a party where eliminating nuclear weapons means using them all up.
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The only president to order their use was President Truman who was a DEMOCRAT!!!

Posted by: warhawk911 | April 9, 2010 9:22 AM | Report abuse

The Democrats in Michigan are MUCH more concerned with having health care, dealing with their high unemployment, etc than they are in hearing about this wingnut's hangups with the rare occurrance of a federally paid-for abortion - which most of them think is ok anyway.

So Stupak would have lost his seat anyway to a real Democrat because he no longer represents his constituents - he represents himself and other wingnuts.

If ever there was an antithesis of the babtist-racist-south, it is upper MI!

Posted by: Heerman532 | April 9, 2010 9:22 AM | Report abuse

So Long StuPak!!! May you rot in hell with the devil after sentencing millions of babies to death.

Posted by: AlbyVA | April 9, 2010 9:21 AM | Report abuse

like the rest of us - he too will get His Judgement Day ,,

Posted by: robof4 | April 9, 2010 9:20 AM | Report abuse

And another one bites the dust.

Hurry November 2nd.

Posted by: pgould1 | April 9, 2010 9:19 AM | Report abuse

Good! Phoney liar can live the rest of his life in shame - he was gonna loose anyhow.

Posted by: civilemik | April 9, 2010 9:19 AM | Report abuse

Take this as a victory of the extremists over the centrists in both parties.

Look at what Stupak did - he conceded to the extremists in his party - but then he quit.

That signals that Stupak is unable or unwilling to carry the liberal policies to his voters. He just doesn't want to do it. In the end, he gave the extreme his vote based on party loyalty - but the extreme gave him no loyalty in return.

Let's be serious here.

The liberals democrats decided to sacrifice their centrist democrats to horrible electorial battles this year. This was a CONSCIOUS decision by the liberals to DISREGARD the election prospects of the centrist democrats.

The prospects of the democrats are not good.

The Republicans have a situation like this as well - the conservative Republicans simply do NOT want to support moderate Republicans who will not support conservative policies once in office.

Our political system may be in for an extended period of going from one extreme to the other - with no centrists in either party to form broad coalitions.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 9, 2010 9:18 AM | Report abuse

What was the socialist mantra about Palin quitting??????

Posted by: VirginiaConservative | April 9, 2010 9:17 AM | Report abuse

YEAH, let's go back to the days where the GOP drove the country into the ground, protected wall street so they could keep you in financial bondage, and to a party where eliminating nuclear weapons means using them all up.

Posted by: jfern03 | April 9, 2010 9:16 AM | Report abuse

TO OHREALLYOW,You try to make this about religion or politics.First of all I will decide what charities to give to,Washington has no constitutional right do spend my money for charities i do not agree with,this includes healthcare,abortions,wellfair and any other expenditure that is deemed a charity.Doing this is againts the law.

Posted by: jburo | April 9, 2010 9:15 AM | Report abuse

"Stupak is the 16th House Democrat to announce his retirement; 18 Republicans are calling it quits while a 19th -- Florida Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart -- is leaving his 25th District to run in the 21st."
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Thank you! The above is a plainly stated objective FACT that adds to our knowledge. A welcome change from the Dems-in-Trouble/GOP comeback false narrative that reflects, not objective fact, but a personal agenda that the Post readership may not agree with.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | April 9, 2010 9:14 AM | Report abuse

Stupek resigns and leaves us trillions of dollars further in the hole. Thanks Bart. Do you get to keep your health care and retirement for doing all of this to us and our children?

Posted by: 45upnorth | April 9, 2010 9:14 AM | Report abuse

Another indication our nation is moving to a polarized situation where only true believers on the far right and far left can receive the support of the formal party organizations.

The result will be a nation with no nuance or compromise in its political life and a exacerbation of the zero sum government which is contributing, not solving, our problems.

One might disagree with Stupak and his stand on abortion rights, but his departure almost surely guanantees a much more radical right wing representative for this district and another vote for the far right wing political and social agenda which has become the hallmark of the modern day Republican Party.

Posted by: bobfbell | April 9, 2010 9:14 AM | Report abuse

Another creepy leftist prostitute bites the dust.

One less to deal with in November.

What will his democrat replacement run on?

The idea that he is not a Stupak? That would mean a dem running as a republican.

Fat chance of selling that whopper. The next stunt they can try is suggesting that cspan will have cameras in leftist negotiations. Or that the bills will be on line before a vote. Those were good ones - should have some mileage left in them for the droolers.

Just concede now. Save the taxpayers some money for a change.

Posted by: VirginiaConservative | April 9, 2010 9:14 AM | Report abuse

Dead babies aren't as fun as the democrats and Stupak would lead you to believe.

Posted by: carlbatey | April 9, 2010 9:13 AM | Report abuse

Bart will get his pay out from the C Street crowd he runs with; no hero he with the Obama administration nor the Democratic leadership he confounded for months on their (C Street boys) behalf. All you deranged Obama haters -- Bart's district voted for Obama and voting for healthcare improvement IS what his district wanted. Why you insist on painting him as some crusader for his principles is not factual. Wait a minute -- he was a crusader for his PRINCIPALS -- yeah, his principals on C Street. I suspect his primary challenger was breathing down his neck a bit more than he bargained for and he decided to throw in the towel rather than duke it out in that contest.

Posted by: isthisajoke | April 9, 2010 9:12 AM | Report abuse

I see Moonbat/drivl/Zouk/King_of_zouk/doof/Ace McNumbnuts is still posting his nonsensical gibberish about the stock market reacting to what could happen in seven months.

Ace is good for laughs, if nothing else.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | April 9, 2010 9:09 AM | Report abuse

"Sources familiar with Stupak's thinking describe him as burned out from the long fight over health care in which he emerged as the leading voice of pro-life Democrats wary"

LMAO Cillizza. If Stupak has emerged as the leading voice of pro-life Democrats, then there is no such thing as a pro-life Democrat.

Stay away from the Obummer regime dems, he will take you from hero to Zero in nothing flat.

Posted by: Straightline | April 9, 2010 9:08 AM | Report abuse

Stupak? I respect your service in Congress but you selling out the American taxpayer is inexcusable. I wish you luck in whatever endeavor comes your way. I will not celebrate your retirement though many people will.

So long Stupak.

Posted by: warhawk911 | April 9, 2010 9:08 AM | Report abuse

Stupak has a history of emerging as a high profile swing vote on issues, and casting votes that could cost him politically. The healthcare thing was just the latest example. Back in the 90s, Stupak, who had garnered support and money from the NRA, ended up voting against an NRA backed amendment that would have loosened background check requirements at gun shows. At the time, the NRA vowed to take him down, presuming that the pro 2nd Amendment tilt of the Michigan UP could be riled up to defeat Stupak. It didn't happen, and I doubt he would've lost this time if he had chosen to run for reelection. If Republicans want to claim the seat, they'd better do a good job of recruiting a pretty moderate candidate. A hard conservative will be competitive, but probably won't win. Remember, we're talking about the upper Midwest here. Contrary to what liberals and conservatives alike might respectively convince themselves of, the fact is that Stupak thrived in his district because he wasn't a party line guy and played the fence when it came to the intersection of right of center views on social issues and left of center views on economic issues. In this, he approximated where most voters in his district were/are.

Posted by: mbcnewspaper | April 9, 2010 9:06 AM | Report abuse

Score another GOP gain in the House of Representatives in the upcoming Midterms!

Posted by: Realist201 | April 9, 2010 9:04 AM | Report abuse

Note on Geography - Stupek's district (Michigans 1st) includes all of the UP, not "much" of it. The 1st also includes almost a third of the lower peninsula as well.

Posted by: nmadison | April 9, 2010 9:04 AM | Report abuse

All you folks on here who are such good Christians because you are so vocal and anti-abortion... How many hungry have you fed? How many poor and homeless have you housed or clothed? How many jobless have you paid bills for? If you have done none of these things, it is you who should worry about your soul being sold to the Devil.

Posted by: OHREALLYNOW | April 9, 2010 9:04 AM | Report abuse

Barack Obama has once again proven to be the kiss of death for the Democratic Party.


Posted by: Jerzy | April 9, 2010 9:03 AM | Report abuse

You people are pathetic.

Posted by: ajlerner1 | April 9, 2010 9:02 AM | Report abuse

VICTORY ..... now the rest of the rats that voted for this socialist health bill can either retire, or get crushed in the Midterm elections.

Posted by: Realist201 | April 9, 2010 9:01 AM | Report abuse

The cause and effect is clear.

Obama directly leads to job losses.

It can on occassion be a good thing.

The market will react favorably to the imminent liberal implosion.

Posted by: Moonbat | April 9, 2010 9:00 AM | Report abuse

Yes yes It will be intersting to see what chushey job Obama will bestow upon him. One I can think of for Stupak would be Combined Minister of Propoganda and Misdirection

Posted by: Obamasnotyamama | April 9, 2010 9:00 AM | Report abuse

VICTORY ..... now the rest of the rats that voted for this socialist health bill can either retire, or get crushed in the Midterm elections.

Posted by: Realist201 | April 9, 2010 8:59 AM | Report abuse

LOL allenridge you crazy nut. The low favorable rating for the Dems has dropped all the way down to the level where the Repubublicans have been wallowing for years. And that's something for a Repub to brag about? "You're as disliked as we are"??

Mmmkay.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | April 9, 2010 8:57 AM | Report abuse

The sad thing is that if Stupak would have just voted his constituents and his conscience, he would be the congressman from Michigan long after the abortionist in chief is gone.

Posted by: Straightline | April 9, 2010 8:57 AM | Report abuse

Wow, I can't wait for the "surprise" announcement later in the year that suddenly there is an appointed position available for him within the administration.

Posted by: jercary | April 9, 2010 8:57 AM | Report abuse

Wow, I can't wait for the "surprise" announcement later in the year that suddenly there is an appointed position available for him within the administration.

Posted by: jercary | April 9, 2010 8:57 AM | Report abuse

For everyone that believes what the Obama machine releases, please watch Rep. Stupak for the next 6 months as the payoff slides from under the table to the surface.

Rep.Stupak will announce that he is going to assume a big paycheck Soros funded lobbying job that was the cost of a vote.

When you have deep pockets and absolutely no ethics, all things are possible.

Posted by: Olsparkee | April 9, 2010 8:57 AM | Report abuse

Another Dem sell out bites the dust! He's another poster child for TERM LIMITS!

Posted by: Jimbo77 | April 9, 2010 8:56 AM | Report abuse

I weep for what our country has become.

Hatred towards our fellow countrymen stoked by the political parties should not be tolerated, unfortunately it is the norm. Intellectual laziness and scoring easy points against the political opposition also the lack of a clear cut external enemy is driving a wedge between brothers. The elimination of moderates in government will only exacerbate this situation.

Posted by: scooper1976 | April 9, 2010 8:56 AM | Report abuse

He is a good man who voted in accordance with his principles. It's too bad that isn't good enough for voters anymore.

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It isn't enough to vote one's principles. They need to be good ones. Google "mantle of Galileo," Cletus.

The sacredness of human life is nutty religious idiocy and belongs in single-digit centuries.

Posted by: Noacoler | April 9, 2010 8:56 AM | Report abuse

I guess he finally got around to reading all of his hate mail from the pro choice crowd?

Posted by: beebop1 | April 9, 2010 8:53 AM | Report abuse

So what's he gonna be? Ambassador? Cabinet secretary? Acorn lobbyist?

He was paid off with something. I guess we'll just have to wait until February or so and see.

Posted by: crisp11 | April 9, 2010 8:53 AM | Report abuse

After taking the 30 pieces of silver Judas feels guilty and hangs himself, but the damage is already done.

Posted by: screwjob11 | April 9, 2010 8:52 AM | Report abuse

Good riddance to a pro-life DINO. Let hm be replaced by a real Democrat who doesn't place blastulas before human beings.

Posted by: Noacoler | April 9, 2010 8:52 AM | Report abuse

Good riddance. He can take his anti-woman views back to Michigan.

Posted by: cougartonyusa | April 9, 2010 8:51 AM | Report abuse

Some how none of this will be Bart's responsibility, right? Typical dem ....

Posted by: beebop1 | April 9, 2010 8:51 AM | Report abuse

He is a good man who voted in accordance with his principles. It's too bad that isn't good enough for voters anymore.

Posted by: dawnforsythe | April 9, 2010 8:51 AM | Report abuse

Well, he always considered himself pro-life far more than anti-abortion. And he made the pro-life vote.

That's what he got into politics for and now he's done. He's retiring while hoisting the Lombardi trophy.

Posted by: DDAWD | April 9, 2010 8:49 AM | Report abuse

He sold out and had to face reality in his home district. Good riddance to him.

Posted by: FLvet | April 9, 2010 8:47 AM | Report abuse

Bye, bye Bart. Another Democrat bites the dust.

Posted by: 45upnorth | April 9, 2010 8:46 AM | Report abuse

He's retiring because he knows that he stood with his clueless President and left-wing Party........INSTEAD of the people he was SUPPOSE to represent back in his district.

Oh....Chris Cillizza got something just for you here"

"Democratic Party Image Drops to Record LowFavorable images of Democratic, Republican Parties now tiedby Frank Newport
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PRINCETON, NJ -- Americans' favorable rating of the Democratic Party dropped to 41% in a late March USA Today/Gallup poll, the lowest point in the 18-year history of this measure. Favorable impressions of the Republican Party are now at 42%, thus closing the gap between the two parties' images that has prevailed for the past four years."

........Hey Chris how's that "Republican Brand" looking to you now?

Posted by: allenridge | April 9, 2010 8:46 AM | Report abuse

It is terrible that those on the extremes of both parties will not accept the views of those who are more centrist.

This time the progressives or liberals have won a battle but it is not good for the country as a whole.

Bart Stupak and those like him will be missed!

Posted by: mwhoke | April 9, 2010 8:46 AM | Report abuse

HA HA HA HA HA Bart "Judas" Stupak has been officially Tea Bagged.

How did selling your soul to the Devil in chief work out for you Bart? Doh!

Posted by: Straightline | April 9, 2010 8:44 AM | Report abuse

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