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New York Rep. Charlie Rangel's alleged ethics violations are causing problems for House Democrats heading into the fall. AP Photo/Alex Brandon

The news that New York Democratic Rep. Charlie Rangel violated House ethics rules and could be subject to a Congressional trial -- likely in September -- has party strategists panicked at what such a spectacle might do to an already difficult election climate for their side.

"A disaster," said one New York Democratic operative when asked about the prospect of a trial detailing the charges against Rangel in the midst of the fall election campaign.

Another New York strategist described the ethical cloud surrounding Rangel as a "two-year albatross that we all wish would go away."

One House Democrat granted anonymity to speak candidly about a colleague called the potential trial timing "terrible," adding: "If it comes to a vote, Charlie will not win."

The outline of allegations against Rangel are well documented -- related to personal financial dealings that include improperly living in a rent-controlled apartment to not paying taxes on a Dominican villa -- but it's unclear what punishment the investigative subcommittee would recommend.

It could be a stern reprimand, a more formal censure or even an expulsion from the chamber. House Democrats will, almost certainly, do anything they can to avoid a full vote on whether Rangel should be removed from his seat. No formal conversations had begun on that front, according to a House Democratic leadership aide, largely because of the fact that official Washington had emptied out by the time the Ethics committee findings were made public Thursday night.

A detailed explanation of the alleged violations by Rangel is expected to be announced by the House Ethics Committee next Thursday -- ensuring another week (at least) of bad press for House Democrats on the matter.

Rangel, in a news conference today, seemed entirely disinterested in stepping aside. "I'm in the kitchen and I am not walking out," he said at one point. At another, he pledged to "make certain, before this election, people know who Charlie Rangel is, was."

Rangel, who has held the Harlem-based 15th district since 1970, is considered a strong favorite in his Sept. 14 primary race against Adam Clayton Powell IV, the son of the congressman he beat four decades ago.

The primary could well happen nearly simultaneously with a House trial -- if Rangel chooses that route.

The political perils of such a spectacle are significant.

Voters have repeatedly sent signals during this primary season that they are fed up with Washington -- Congress was the least-trusted institution in the country in a recent Gallup survey -- and a public airing of potential ethics violations that include a failure to disclose hundreds of thousands of dollars in assets will almost certainly reinforce the idea that politicians in the nation's capitol just don't get it.

The image of Rangel as symbolic of a broader out-of-touchness pervading Congress, which many voters believe to their core, is a dangerous one for Democrats.

Wrote Post columnist Richard Cohen of Rangel way back in September 2009:

"He suffers from the degenerative disease called Congressional Sclerosis. Its symptom is the belief that the rules, especially the petty ones, no longer apply to you. This happens over time. It comes with seniority and a sense of victimization that combine to produce the onset of entitlement for goodies to which, in the course of things, you are not entitled."

One Democratic consultant described a Rangel trial as a "no-win situation" for House Democrats running in competitive races. Explained the source: "Criticize him, and risk the wrath of the congressional black caucus and leadership. Don't criticize, and you're weak on ethics."

Republicans are likely to repeat a strategy they employed when Rangel was forced to step down as chairman of the Ways and Means Committee in March -- calling for the return of campaign contributions from the New York Democrat and seeking to get his colleagues on the record about whether or not he should resign.

For a party trying to desperately to turn the election into a choice between the two parties rather than a referendum on President Obama and Democratic majorities in Congress, the Rangel allegations -- and his combative approach to fighting them -- is an unwelcome headache that could further complicate its efforts to keep the majority on Nov. 2.

By Chris Cillizza  |  July 23, 2010; 2:43 PM ET
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Comments

The Luke Russert / Rangel MSNBC exchange is pretty good.. Charlie's best line.. '..you don't sound like you are from NBC..'

Posted by: newbeeboy | July 26, 2010 8:58 AM | Report abuse

Strange how guys who can't do their taxes
want to raise ours. Sorry Charlie, you're not the only black candidate in Harlem...
there are some new, young guys...waiting.

Posted by: BluePelican | July 26, 2010 8:50 AM | Report abuse

YouCanPostThis asked, "Should Anything Be Different Because The President Is Black?"

The answer should be NO, but Obama's own Racist actions are provoking more Racism!

Posted by: Veritatis1 | July 25, 2010 9:26 PM | Report abuse

I firmly believe that anyone with "Honesty" and "Integrity" cannot get elected.

Obama is living PROOF of this - he is a parade of Lies and Broken Promises!

Posted by: Veritatis1 | July 25, 2010 9:18 PM | Report abuse

I think the major question in all of this is this: SHOULD ANYTHING BE DIFFERENT BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT IS BLACK ???


If you are post-racial, the answer is NO, nothing should be different because Obama is black - everything should be the same. Obama's skin color is irrelevant.

HOWEVER, to the democrats, EVERYTHING is different because Obama is black -

Words have to be chosen carefully, issues have to be looked at differently.


Because Obama is black, there are "proxy issues" out there, which hide people's racism.


Because Obama is black, FALSE CHARGES OF RACISM ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE - EVEN BEING DISCUSSED IN JOURNOLIST - AS LEGITIMATE MEANS TO ATTACK EVEN THOUGH THE CHARGES ARE KNOWN TO BE UNTRUE.


To the democrats, Obama's skin color is an OPPORTUNITY TO ATTACK THE OTHER SIDE.

To the people who are post-racial, all the democrats who do that look like stupid little children.


.

Posted by: YouCanPostThis | July 24, 2010 8:36 PM | Report abuse

So what if Rangle is a Classy Black crook, he should be treated like any other berson suspected of criminal activity such as tax evasion etc. The whole mater should be refurred to the Department of Justice for investigation and prosecution if needed. Congress should hold it's fire until the justice department is finished with it's investigation.

On the other hand, why prosecute Rangle when we refuse to even look at the crimes that 43 and the rest of the Bush Crime Family commited during their 8 year reign?

Posted by: abonon | July 24, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

@KPOM - Very interesting as well as narcissistic. Makes me think of George Foreman and his sons George, George, George, and George.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | July 24, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Hey, guess what..

The guy without a doubt thinks that he is above the law. He has abused his power and office for decades and because he is from Harlem and a 'good ole member of the CBC' he will be treated with kid gloves.

He KNOWS that Pelosi and the CBC are on his side and I AM SURE that Obama will cover his As- with a blanket.

At 80 he deserves to be retired on half pay and placed in the ObamaCare health plan.

The CBC has already been lobbying Pelosi to limit the power of the Ethics Committee... mainly due to this issue and the Jefferson case.

Anyone caught evading taxes, abusing power, stealing from the taxpayer and taking advantage of their power... SHOULD be voted out by the members of the House and the Senate. Moral issues, if CAUGHT... SHOULD BE DEALT WITH QUICKLY and to the point as well.

The POTUS and all politicians should be HELD to a HIGHER STANDARD than normal citizens.

Posted by: miller515501 | July 24, 2010 8:38 AM | Report abuse

He was a good advocate for his district and his causes, a decorated veteran, and he was always available to mix it up with politicians and pundits on both right and left. He carried himself with class and dignity and seemed to have a good sense of humor.

Unfortunately, he made some serious ethical (maybe legal) miscalculations, and it's time for him to retire. 80 is old enough to call it a day under any circumstances.

As I said, I didn't know Charlie personally, but as our resident criminal defense attorney, leichtman1, would I'm sure agree, sometimes people who make mistakes or break the law aren't really terrible people---they're just like you or me but did something they hadn't oughta done. And money is usually the motivator.

Posted by: Brigade | July 23, 2010 7:18 PM

Agreed.

However, I would add: As ranking member or Chair of Ways & Means, if these accusations are true, Rangel should have resigned his seniority on that particular committee while he straightened out his finances, if indeed he either has or will have straightened them out. If the accusations are true and he never tried to straighten his finances or pay his back taxes he should be prosecuted. The position, on THAT committee and in the leadership, placed Rangel beyond being merely a Congressman who made a mistake.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | July 24, 2010 8:29 AM | Report abuse

Seems that Vitter using prostitutes is illegal, not to mention morally wrong. You never hear a republican bringing that up, but democrats are trying to deal with the Rangel mess. Repubs just are too big at hipocracy to clean their own closet, and boy they got a lot hiding in the closet. Some wearing diapers/, maybe Vitter could be Veep to serial adulterer and impeachment leader Newt (leaves sick wife). A lot of real upstanding people there, and some smart ones like Palin

Posted by: jimbobkalina | July 24, 2010 5:51 AM | Report abuse

They have no problem throwing the innocent under the bus. Witness the recent AG Dept mess.

Why should throwing the guilty under the bus bother them?

Unless Charlie has photos of course!!

Posted by: PRRWRITER | July 24, 2010 3:14 AM | Report abuse

What's all the fuss? Stealing from the people raises only a little dust and quickly blows away. look at the Savings & Loan scandal. McCain was heavily involved, he apologized and ran for president. Might have made it too if he hadn't picked a bimbo to run with. It's sex that the people get upset about, not money. Now if Rangel had been caught with a minor or a a swinger's party, he'd be crucified. But stealing our money? Nahhhhhh.... the Pentagon steals far, far more and we don't mind.
It's blow over in a few days...oh wait. It's the Democrats - the party without a spine that falls over itself. Well then, they might make a mountain out of this yet.

Posted by: thestoryplease | July 24, 2010 12:23 AM | Report abuse

Rangel started out as true American hero, an inspirer. Years of Washington, identity politics, and privelige has turned him into a rotten apple indeed. He has betrayed African Americans, New Yorkers, and his own party. Charlie, get out and save your soul.

Posted by: BigMac4 | July 24, 2010 12:13 AM | Report abuse

Let's face it, this won't be like 2006, with the Washington Post repeat the mantra "Culture of Corruption" and "macaca" on a daily basis, attempting to influence an election.

Congressman Rangel has been treated more than fair, more than fair, by the left-wing press. Had he been a Republican, Lord only knows how many front page stories he could have generated and how many more newspapers he would have sold. Just having to keep the story of a Democrat quiet must have cost the Washington Post a few thousand sales every day it didn't tell the public what was going on.

I used to have a lot of respect for Charles Rangel, even being a Republican. It's sad it's come to this and I would hope he would step down gracefully and not go out in some terrible way.

Posted by: bflat879 | July 23, 2010 10:01 PM | Report abuse

The real irony in all this is the possibility that his primary opponent might just win by default. His opponent is the son of Adam Clayton Powell who was himself ruined by his inablity to stop being a crook. He was , of course, re-elected despite his legal p[roblems but still left the chamber as a dis-honorable former member of Congress. It would be a hoot if Rangle were to follow the same story line only to be replaced by the son of the crook whom he replaced all those years ago

Posted by: Sproing | July 23, 2010 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Congress ought to rid itself of all its crooks. However, for all you smarmy Republicans out there, remember this Bible verse? "You hypocrite! First remove the beam from your own eye. Then you will see clearly to remove the piece of sawdust from another believer's eye." You can start with Vitter.

Posted by: MNUSA | July 23, 2010 9:57 PM | Report abuse

There are crooks ... and then there are crooks with no conscience or shame... guess which one Charlie is....

Posted by: JPMcC | July 23, 2010 9:47 PM | Report abuse

There are crooks ... and then there are crooks with no conscience or shame... guess which one Charlie is....

Posted by: JPMcC | July 23, 2010 9:47 PM | Report abuse

There are crooks ... and then there are crooks with no conscience or shame... guess which one Charlie is....

Posted by: JPMcC | July 23, 2010 9:46 PM | Report abuse

C'mon. From a Democratic perspective, what's wrong with Rangel?

He's a black man who got elected because he is a black man. His constituents believe they're sticking it to the man when they vote for him.

And he steals money in the name of helping poor people.

In most ways, he's what the Democratic party stands for.

Posted by: Ombudsman1 | July 23, 2010 9:36 PM | Report abuse

Adam Clayton Powell Jr had two sons with different wives. Adam IV is the younger of the two, and the half-brother of Adam III

Posted by: KPOM1 | July 23, 2010 9:18 PM | Report abuse

Adam Clayton Powell Jr had two sons with different wives. Adam IV is the younger of the two, and the half-brother of Adam III

Posted by: KPOM1 | July 23, 2010 9:18 PM | Report abuse

Adam Clayton Powell Sr had two sons with different wives. Adam IV is the younger of the two, and the half-brother of Adam III

Posted by: KPOM1 | July 23, 2010 9:18 PM | Report abuse

Rangel is a good argument for term limits. No one should be in Congress for 40 years. I don't know much about Adam Clayton Powell, but he has my vote by default.

Posted by: KPOM1 | July 23, 2010 9:14 PM | Report abuse


i also wonder how he paid for his plastic surgery. One can tell very easily if someone has been under the knife. And he has.

but you didn't hear it from me.....

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | July 23, 2010 9:11 PM | Report abuse


it was a two year investigation wasn't it....

if these alleged violations are real and are proven, beyond the shadow of a doubt....he must resign or he will cause the party much difficulty--which he already is.

Can't wait till Thursday next week.

Cohen quote is accurate.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | July 23, 2010 9:08 PM | Report abuse

As a devout Republican, I say that if Americans knew their history they wouldn't be surprised by any of this. I learned what happens when blacks get political power from watching "Birth of a Nation," a film which should be required watching for every citizen.

Posted by: senbilboredux | July 23, 2010 9:01 PM | Report abuse


It is quite sad that this gentleman has fallen from grace, so to speak. He has been an icon for the Black young people who aspire to the Congress and Senate.

It would appear that the Black people who attain great jobs and become known to most in the country that they have to live above board and closer to perfect than anyone else in the same situation. Why it that is that way is unclear; however, it is true and must be a burden to all Blacks in Congress / Senate that have gained a public reputation.

The atmosphere in government has become truly below standard and ripe with corruption. The entire Congress and Senate is laden with money hungry individuals that will stop at nothing for personal gain. Mr. Rangel is no different than any other government official, but the fact that he's Black makes all the difference in the world. He let his people down, he let the youth who have watched him down and worst of all he let the country down. More hope and expectation was placed on Mr. Rangel because he is Black. More people in America hoped and prayed that he'd be an icon for good and not evil, that is the biggest loss here.

Posted by: sbduncaster | July 23, 2010 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Relax everybody. My journoList buddies and I are figuring out the best way to spin the news so we can bury this story and smear anyone who questions Charlie too closely as "racists". We're really smart,clever and VERY special people. Ethics? we don't need no stinkin' ethics. Our side needs to keep power-we don't care how.

Posted by: jadams76 | July 23, 2010 8:43 PM | Report abuse

Uh, what's the problem? Didn't the Treasury Secretary have an issue with paying taxes as well?

Don't you get it? These folks are better and more privileged then we are. The elite don't have to follow the rules we do. Like Rangel is the lone ranger here.

Americans are either lazy or just mullets.

Posted by: wesatch | July 23, 2010 8:42 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans would be absolute fools to try and pump this up and put it in front of the public.
"Remove the log from your own eye before you worry about the splinter in your neighbors."

==

Dude, where ya been? Republicans attack others for their own failings all the time.

Betting on the memory and intelligence of the American people is for suckers.

Posted by: Noacoler | July 23, 2010 8:26 PM | Report abuse

So,anybody know what ever became of Madame
Speaker Nancy Pelosi claim she was going to
"Drain the Swamp" of that Culture of Corruption Pelosi claims Washington DC is
full anyhow? Or,does Nancy Pelosi "Draining
the Swamp" include dishonest,corrupt crooks
like Democrat Congressman Charlie Rangel?..
Or Der Leader Kenyan Barack Hussein Obama?
..Oh never mind,I simply somehow forgot that Charlie Rangel and Barack Hussein Obama and Team Obama are Democrats!

Posted by: Ralphinphnx | July 23, 2010 8:24 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans would be absolute fools to try and pump this up and put it in front of the public.
"Remove the log from your own eye before you worry about the splinter in your neighbors."

Posted by: ThePoliticalStraycom | July 23, 2010 7:49 PM | Report abuse

RACIST RACIST RACIST!

Charlie Rangel cannot commit ethics violations! Don't you know that blacks were once SLAVES in this country??? Charlie Rangel doesn't have to pay taxes. Haven't you heard of reparations??? Thank GOD the Washington Post and the rest of the media are here to defend Charlie and ignore this story so it doesn't impact the elections. Besides, Charlie is in a safe Democrat seat with a mostly black constituency. He'll get MORE of the vote because of these RACIST ethics charges.

These ethics charges by the racist Tea Party and racist Fox News are trying to take America back to SLAVERY!

FREE CHARLIE RANGEL

Posted by: diesel_skins_ | July 23, 2010 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Two points:

1. How can Adam Clayton Powell, IV be the son of Adam Clayton Powell, Jr.? An earlier story made this reference. Knowing that WaPo should be know as the Post Errors and Omissions, I'm wondering if maybe IV is the grandson.

2. What do politicians always "welcome the opportunity to clear my name"? If they are so darn anxious to prove their position, why take two years to let this drag on, give up a committee chairmanship, and have your 'good' name dragged through the mud? Take the initiative and prove your case early on.

I sense that there is not a lot of defense that Rangel can offer. So, will be raise the race card?

Posted by: adjjones | July 23, 2010 7:23 PM | Report abuse

Come on Obama, do what the Clinton's would have done; suicide him.

Posted by: nuke41 | July 23, 2010 7:22 PM | Report abuse

If you dance...you gotta pay the fiddler........So long Charlie...

Posted by: corebanks1940 | July 23, 2010 7:18 PM | Report abuse

I've always liked Charlie Rangel. He's a black politician who seemed to have a good sense of reality. He reminded me of my father (not black). They're both that same veteran generation. Clarence Thomas, who differs ideologicaly from Mr. Rangel, likewise says a lot of things in the way my father would say them. Both Rangel and Thomas are people who can cross the racial divide, even if you disagree with what they are saying, because they say it in a way that reminds of friends and family. That goes a long way toward promoting inter-racial understanding even across poitical opinions. Unfortunately, that's a relatively small group among national political figures.

It's too bad Mr. Rangel hung around too long that he ends his career like this. He should have retired like my father.

Posted by: jfv123 | July 23, 2010 4:26 PM
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My sentiments, too. I didn't know him personally, and I can't say he reminded me of my father; but I liked what I saw. He was a good advocate for his district and his causes, a decorated veteran, and he was always available to mix it up with politicians and pundits on both right and left. He carried himself with class and dignity and seemed to have a good sense of humor.

Unfortunately, he made some serious ethical (maybe legal) miscalculations, and it's time for him to retire. 80 is old enough to call it a day under any circumstances.

As I said, I didn't know Charlie personally, but as our resident criminal defense attorney, leichtman1, would I'm sure agree, sometimes people who make mistakes or break the law aren't really terrible people---they're just like you or me but did something they hadn't oughta done. And money is usually the motivator.

Posted by: Brigade | July 23, 2010 7:18 PM | Report abuse

I urge everyone who reads this piece, these comments, or writes a comment to sit down and read Mark Twain's The Gilded Age published in 1873. In this work you will learn how politics really works and how politicians really act. I know the book in nearly 140 years old, but you will have your eyes opened.

Posted by: jeffreed | July 23, 2010 7:17 PM | Report abuse

I urge everyone who reads this piece, these comments, or writes a comment to sit down and read Mark Twain's The Gilded Age published in 1873. In this work you will learn how politics really works and how politicians really act. I know the book in nearly 140 years old, but you will have your eyes opened.

Posted by: jeffreed | July 23, 2010 7:17 PM | Report abuse

I urge everyone who reads this piece, these comments, or writes a comment to sit down and read Mark Twain's The Gilded Age published in 1873. In this work you will learn how politics really works and how politicians really act. I know the book in nearly 140 years old, but you will have your eyes opened.

Posted by: jeffreed | July 23, 2010 7:17 PM | Report abuse

This dude needs to be laying on the beach somewhere, for a living, and not on our dime.

Posted by: hared | July 23, 2010 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Waiting for someone to say its,,racist or Bush's fault

Posted by: corebanks1940 | July 23, 2010 5:26 PM | Report abuse

----------------------------------

Ok, then!! It's the fault of that Racist G.W. Bush. Feel better!!

I like to combine the two :-)

Posted by: be4fourty | July 23, 2010 7:14 PM | Report abuse

Dear Charlie --thank you for your military service, but the congressional road has come to an end.
You need more time to dedicate to your income properties and to interview financial advisors who know how to keep you out of trouble with the IRS.

Term Limits are coming.

Posted by: jimbob3 | July 23, 2010 7:07 PM | Report abuse

I'm wondering about the lack of coverage of the Blago trial. Rahm Emmanuel and Obama were mentioned on the tape, Now, everybody is resting and Blago team has not brought one witness and he's not going to testify. Early on Fitzpatrick says that he had massive amount of evidence. Something really smells in this case and just before an election. Can you say COVER-UP.

Posted by: jblast2000 | July 23, 2010 6:25 PM
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I didn't see the trial, but it sounds more like a weak prosecution case to me.

Posted by: Brigade | July 23, 2010 7:07 PM | Report abuse

Dear Charlie --thank you for your military service, but the congressional road has come to an end.
You need more time to dedicate to your income properties and to interview financial advisors who know how to keep you out of trouble with the IRS.

Term Limits are coming.

Posted by: jimbob3 | July 23, 2010 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Drainyou wrote,
"The Wingnuts still haven't figured out that they can't run on the same failed crap every election"

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Probably true. But they won both houses of Congress in 2006 and increased their lead in 2008. I don't look for a change in crap now, just a change in which party has control come November.

Posted by: Brigade | July 23, 2010 7:03 PM | Report abuse


No excuses for Charlie Rangel, he needs to resign.

But I'm still waiting on the lapdog conservative Corporate Media to call on John Ensign, David Vitter and Mark Sanford to resign....


"Liberal Media".....my arse!

Posted by: DrainYou

------------------------------------------

All democrat "style" sexual deviants but dems don't resign for that why should Republicans?? You can't even be prosecuted for being a liberal type pervert. As the dems well know. Right Bawney Fwank??

Although he did help run an gay pedophile prostitution ring from his apt. hmmm Oh yeah he didn't know it was happening.

Now Wrangle?? Theft and income tax evasion...quite a different story. Much different than getting a simple Lewinski in the oval office

Posted by: Straightline | July 23, 2010 6:56 PM | Report abuse

dubya1938


OK - I wasn't that specific - what I meant was those districts should be more of a mix between blacks and whites - and that would make them more responsive to the voters - and make the districts more likely to turn over.


right now, the districts allow too much entrenched power - within the party and without.

Posted by: YouCanPostThis | July 23, 2010 6:56 PM | Report abuse

"What does that tell you ? Any district that is UNABLE to vote out an official like Rangel SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN DRAWN ON THE MAP."

...I don't think the fact that whites can't vote him out of office is an indication that his district shouldn't exist.

Maybe you're not getting it.

Posted by: dubya1938 | July 23, 2010 6:50 PM | Report abuse

@DrainYou: you beat me to it.

A modest request, politely made .. please let's leave the name-mangling stuff to the zouks and the armpeg/leapins. The word is "Republicans." I despise them enough to pull the lever on the whole rotten bunch but we reduce ourselves to the infantilism of "Obungler" when we do that stuff. Thanks.

Posted by: Noacoler | July 23, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

"So unless you want to add to the overcrowded prisons of America by 435,"

...what, a days' worth of "stop & frisk" based incarcerations in Harlem? LOL that's an impediment...

Posted by: dubya1938 | July 23, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse

"Rangel, who has held the Harlem-based 15th district since 1970, is considered a strong favorite in his Sept. 14 primary race against Adam Clayton Powell IV, the son of the congressman he beat four decades ago."

Chris, ACP IV is the grandson, not the son, of the man Rangel replaced in Congress, Adam Clayton Powell, Jr.

Posted by: hisroc | July 23, 2010 6:46 PM | Report abuse

"I live in Charlie's district, and have for decades. You guys don't. WARNING: Charlie's not going anywhere. You toss him out, we'll toss him right back. We believe in representative democracy"
Posted by: NYer125thSt

_____________________
Go ahead and toss the crook anywhere you want. The Party of Corruption and Crap will be out in November making him a lame duck tax Cheat.

Posted by: jblast2000 | July 23, 2010 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Rangel's a greedy grabber, has been for a lllllong time. He stayed too long and he was found out.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | July 23, 2010 6:39 PM | Report abuse

I live in Charlie's district, and have for decades. You guys don't. WARNING: Charlie's not going anywhere. You toss him out, we'll toss him right back. We believe in representative democracy -- you don't. You want us to have who YOU want us to have -- tough luck, schnook! Charlie's our guy. You toss him out again, we'll toss him back again. You tried this with Powell. You tossed him out, we sent him right back. A couple of times. Charlie's always had one of the largest victory margins of any district in the country. Every two years. Gee, what a shock -- one of the few true liberals in the House -- one with power, even -- and he's the first one they try to toss out. What a shock. You put a lid on the House, and give the place a good shake and the entire Chamber would be perp-walked. GOPers AND Dems. So unless you want to add to the overcrowded prisons of America by 435, let this go and find a new toy to play with. Charlie stays and that's that.

Posted by: NYer125thSt | July 23, 2010 6:37 PM | Report abuse

'In an interview with Hotline OnCall, Rep. Zach Wamp (R-TN) suggested forming a new Confederacy if voters reject the "tenther" view that laws that conservatives disapprove of violate the Constitution:

 "I hope that the American people will go to the ballot box in 2010 and 2012 so that states are not forced to consider separation from this government," said Wamp during an interview with Hotline OnCall.'


What a great idea! Because we tried that once and it worked out so well for everyone.

Posted by: drindl | July 23, 2010 6:29 PM | Report abuse

I'm wondering about the lack of coverage of the Blago trial. Rahm Emmanuel and Obama were mentioned on the tape, Now, everybody is resting and Blago team has not brought one witness and he's not going to testify. Early on Fitzpatrick says that he had massive amount of evidence. Something really smells in this case and just before an election. Can you say COVER-UP.

Posted by: jblast2000 | July 23, 2010 6:25 PM | Report abuse

johnwp,
Despite all of the Rethug dancing in the end zone and pouring champaign on themselves, after all is said and done this fall, the Rethugs will still be the minority party in both chambers of congress. I can't wait to see all of the sad little Wingnutter faces!


And then come 2012, all of the Rethugs gains from 2010 will disappear again. The Wingnuts still haven't figured out that they can't run on the same failed crap every election (tax cuts for the rich, war-mongering etc) and expect to consistantly make electoral gains.


.

Posted by: DrainYou | July 23, 2010 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Sen. Schmuck Schumer gave Charlie $10K in campaign donations.

LOL !!

Posted by: FraudObama | July 23, 2010 6:17 PM | Report abuse

cub62,
Really Biff? I've yet to see any of your beloved Rethugs resign. Let us know when Diapers Vitter, Family Values Ensign and Argentina Sanford resign and we'll talk, ok?

.

Posted by: DrainYou | July 23, 2010 6:15 PM | Report abuse

I live in Harlem, so with all due respect to Rangel and all he has done for his constituents, I think he should step down now. I am most concerned with how the Democrats can hold onto their House majority, and that should be Rangel’s primary concern. Rangel is a patriot and served the nation heroically as a soldier in the Korean War. If he really wants to do what’s best for the nation, he will help the Democratic Party, which means resign now and spare us the ordeal of a trial. Please, Charlie, you are 80 years old. It’s time to retire. Stop this pathetic, selfish attempt to cling to power or defend your personal honor. It will be a political disaster for the Democrats.

Posted by: fugitivenyc | July 23, 2010 6:12 PM | Report abuse

This is going to be the greatest November ever. Unless you're a Dimocrat, of course.

Posted by: johnwp | July 23, 2010 6:12 PM | Report abuse

If this would had been a Republican he would had been gone a long time ago. But Captain Morgan is Black and a Democrat.

Posted by: cub62 | July 23, 2010 6:10 PM | Report abuse

No excuses for Charlie Rangel, he needs to resign.


But I'm still waiting on the lapdog conservative Corporate Media to call on John Ensign, David Vitter and Mark Sanford to resign....


"Liberal Media".....my arse!


.

Posted by: DrainYou | July 23, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Time to Charles to consider an exit strategy. Why not poll his Democrat colleagues to find out how much they would pay him to quit before September. My guess is that he would be able to retire to his Dominican Villa live lavishly for the rest of his days.

Posted by: jemoorman | July 23, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

The shenanigans of Rep. Jefferson (D-LA)
Seem not to have hurt his party too much
And Rep. Rangel's indiscretions may not register negatively
With folks he counts on in the clutch

(Including his constituents at home,
And longtime colleagues in the House
Who may find it difficult to find officially
That he has in fact been a certifiable louse).

Moreover, there is an item in the news today
Suggesting more "Ensign-related" dirt will soon be aired.
It involves potentially criminal prurience
But with Charles' more nearly venal behavior
In many minds may be "off-settingly" compared.

Of course, it has been said many times
That after eight years or so in DC
Representatives have done enough damage--
And be retired from office per.ma.nent.ly

About that--no more than fond--hope,
As with hope that a $1.5 trillion deficit won't lead to financial disaster,
Perhaps the best that can be said of its realization is encapsulated by
Hope in one hand, spit in the other and see which one fills up faster.

Posted by: Gonzage1 | July 23, 2010 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Why did this take so long? These transgression have already been out in public for a long time.

Posted by: HughJassPhD | July 23, 2010 5:47 PM | Report abuse

I haven't followed the story of the charges against Rangel closely, so I ahve no opinion on his guilt or lack thereof. What I do know, and do not like, was the hubris that he displayed last night on televions when Luke Russert asked him if he was concerned about the safety of his position. He was stunned that he would ask the question and berated Russert for asking it and claimed that journalism is not what it used to be. (He may be righ tbaout that, but not for the reasons he thinks). I admire Rangel's record of public service, but it seems to me that he has lost perspective. If he is guilty, he must go, period.

Posted by: trep1 | July 23, 2010 5:46 PM | Report abuse

I haven't followed the story of the charges against Rangel closely, so I ahve no opinion on his guilt or lack thereof. What I do know, and do not like, was the hubris that he displayed last night on televions when Luke Russert asked him if he was concerned about the safety of his position. He was stunned that he would ask the question and berated Russert for asking it and claimed that journalism is not what it used to be. (He may be righ tbaout that, but not for the reasons he thinks). I admire Rangel's record of public service, but it seems to me that he has lost perspective. If he is guilty, he must go, period.

Posted by: trep1 | July 23, 2010 5:46 PM | Report abuse

What's the fuss? You mean to tell me that the Chairman of Ways and Means, which is responsible for writing the tax code, is suppose to know that rental income is taxable? Seems like an honest mistake - NOT!

Posted by: Truckr | July 23, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Waiting for someone to say its,,racist or Bush's fault

Posted by: corebanks1940 | July 23, 2010 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Wouldn't this be a good time to put all the crooks from both parties in Congress and the White House on the spot and clean both houses.

Posted by: GordonShumway | July 23, 2010 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Drinle you are mindless. When ever you socialists lose the argument you resort to childish name calling. You have no common sense. Conservatives feel like we dealing with bad and dangerous kids.

Posted by: kdieck | July 23, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

It's sleaze like this that makes me vote for Democrats holding my nose. And it's even worse knowing that the alternative is to vote for Republican candidates that publicly doubt things like the wetness of water and the law of gravity. It's like having to choose between a criminal and a madman. I've been thinking that at least the criminal is rational, but that doesn't seem to be making much difference. American politics sucks.

Posted by: Candressuhmoose | July 23, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Love to see dems squirm & turn!

Posted by: houston123 | July 23, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse


The Dims sat on this for two years because they are utterly corrupt. Dim leadership let an entire session of Congress pass with a thief in their midst. They must think they can vindicate their party by finally prosecuting Rangel the thief. Too little, too late.

102 days until Election Day. See you at the polls, Dims.

Posted by: screwjob17 | July 23, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Politicians never want to police their own ranks. Maybe the People are now mad enough to do it for them.

Posted by: eldergent | July 23, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

The Post wrote: 'One Democratic consultant described a Rangel trial as a "no-win situation" for House Democrats running in competitive races. Explained the source: "Criticize him, and risk the wrath of the congressional black caucus and leadership. Don't criticize, and you're weak on ethics."'

So, a veteran consultant to the Democrats believes the Congressional Black Caucus may be vindictive if someone criticized a lying, cheating member of Congress, even when that member's stonewalling and open denials have delayed the conclusion of an investigation to the point the trial will be held right before the election.

Unless the CBC has proof Rangel's decade-long pattern of corruption is pure fiction, they would be practicing their special brand of racism: "Don't criticize the black man, no matter what he's done and how long he's done it." Now, why would a hired gun of the democrats think that? What has he observed that makes him think the risk of such a strong and biased reaction is real?

Posted by: JHG_sec405 | July 23, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Just one thing, 37th, nobody has to "portray" Palin as a racist, she is one. She dropped out of college in Hawaii because she hated being around so many nonwhite people. That's a racist. No embellishment or inference required.

Posted by: Noacoler
--------------------------------------
Did they meet the Biden-Reid litmus test of clean, articulate, and light skinned?

Posted by: leapin | July 23, 2010 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Too late.
This scummy creep violted laws, too. He should have been behind bars long ago.
So much for comrade Pelosi's new House ethics. Clearly the ethics, like integrity, tolerance and listening to the people are long gone.
That's where these corrupt political hacks will be after the elections.
Remember in November.

Posted by: LarryG62 | July 23, 2010 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Rangel should resign, but why would he have a sudden wave of conscience now?

He's not leaving the world of special favors on his own accord.

Is the purpose of rent controls to give politicians several houses?

He doesn't get it. Do the voters?

Posted by: postfan1 | July 23, 2010 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Chris:


NONE of the other horrible bahavior on this blog has been addressed.


In addition - the harassment has continued.


The False Charges of Racism have to stop - the sterotyping has to stop. These are just provocations which CAUSE the fighting here - and cause people to want to change the subject.


These people are NOT engaging in discussions - they are attacking day in and day out.


I just want everyone to know that whenever broadwayjoe brings up "Gregory Charles Royal" - he is trying to call Sarah Palin a racist.


I believe that the False Charges of Racism on this board have gotten way out of control.


And that includes the use of sexual slurs against the Tea Party.


The democrats are constantly demanding that the Tea Party exercise restraint - HOWEVER THE DEMOCRATS DO NOT EXERCISE RESTRAINT IN THEIR ATTACKS ON THE TEA PARTY - FULL OF SLURS, SMEARS AND FALSE CHARGES OF RACISM.


This is one major problem on this board as well.


I object - broadwayjoe and ddawd have violated the terms of service on this board dozens of times - there has been no enforcement.


Everyone else has to endure this kind of behavior - and it has been dealt with the way it has -


To blame one party in this situation is just wrong.


.

Posted by: YouCanPostThis | July 23, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse


It is my understanding that Rep. Rangel could have simply accepted the findings of the House Ethics Committee, most likely received a slap on the wrist, and be done with it.

But no, and, for that matter, what could one expect? In the true form of the quintessential narcissistic self-centered career politician who believes they are more important than anything, including the rule of law, he brought the potentially sad spectacle of a House trial on himself.

His choice, his bed, now let him sleep in it.

I'm just waiting for some idiot [ala Sharpton or Jackson] to claim this is all "racist". Yeah, right, an Ethics Committee controlled by Democrats dressing down one of their own on the eve of mid-term elections, and a senior member of Congress, no less.

Posted by: LAWPOOL | July 23, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Judging by the thick coat of slime in this section I'd say Cillizza got his happiest wish granted here, and Drudge has linked to this column. Expect a tsunami of filth from some of the world's most loathsome and despicable people, Republican Americans.

And of course the methamphetamine junkie is carpet-posting as usual but that's true in every thread every day, the same incoherent junk over and over.

Just one thing, 37th, nobody has to "portray" Palin as a racist, she is one. She dropped out of college in Hawaii because she hated being around so many nonwhite people. That's a racist. No embellishment or inference required.

Posted by: Noacoler | July 23, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

I'm a Democrat and I hate this guy. Out with him ASAP.

Posted by: adrienne_najjar | July 23, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

37th, my name is not Chris.

Posted by: DDAWD | July 23, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

jUST IN CASE YOU YOUNGUN' FORGOT....IT IS NOT THE FIRST TIME!!!
Following allegations that ADAM CLAYTON POWELL had misappropriated Committee funds for his personal use (see below "Family Scandal") and other charges including evading a subpoena in New York and failing to appear on a post judgment hearing involving the slander case he lost, in January 1967 the House Democratic Caucus stripped Powell of his committee chairmanship. The full House refused to seat him until completion of an investigation by the Judiciary Committee. Powell urged his supporters to "keep the faith, baby" while the investigation went on. On March 1 the House voted 307 to 116 to exclude him. Powell said "On this day, the day of March in my opinion, the end of the United States of America as the land of the free and the home of the brave."[5]

Posted by: SCH03 | July 23, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse


Chris:


NONE of the other horrible bahavior on this blog has been addressed.


In addition - the harassment has continued.


The False Charges of Racism have to stop - the sterotyping has to stop. These are just provocations which CAUSE the fighting here - and cause people to want to change the subject.


These people are NOT engaging in discussions - they are attacking day in and day out.


I just want everyone to know that whenever broadwayjoe brings up "Gregory Charles Royal" - he is trying to call Sarah Palin a racist.


I believe that the False Charges of Racism on this board have gotten way out of control.


And that includes the use of sexual slurs against the Tea Party.


The democrats are constantly demanding that the Tea Party exercise restraint - HOWEVER THE DEMOCRATS DO NOT EXERCISE RESTRAINT IN THEIR ATTACKS ON THE TEA PARTY - FULL OF SLURS, SMEARS AND FALSE CHARGES OF RACISM.


This is one major problem on this board as well.


I object - broadwayjoe and ddawd have violated the terms of service on this board dozens of times - there has been no enforcement.


Everyone else has to endure this kind of behavior - and it has been dealt with the way it has -


To blame one party in this situation is just wrong.


.

Posted by: YouCanPostThis | July 23, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

So almost two years in we find Nancy Pelosi hasn't drained the swamp at all. In fact now after leaving this big fat snapping turtle Rangel to swim and vote for all of the parties boondoggles, he now will be tossed out on his keester at the most inopportune time, during a tsunami election going against the dems....PERFECT!

Who's next? With a Republican congress the subpoenas will be flying fast and furious to correct all of the illegality of the last two ruinous years.

Posted by: NotYourTypicalNewYorker | July 23, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

He should have been a Republican.

Posted by: newbeeboy | July 23, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

The best way this sleazy, racist poverty pimp can serve the people and the country he has betrayed is a political pinata. String him up and whack him like he's full of candy.

Posted by: carlbatey | July 23, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

The Democratic Party has a BARRACK OBAMA problem.


1. The most liberal senator in the U.S. Senate.
2. The most liberal president in U.S. history.
3. The democratic party taken over by Socialists.
4. One term president.

Posted by: Indpnt1 | July 23, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse


When it comes to the problems the Democrats face, Mr. Rangel isn't even the tallest midget...

Posted by: wcmillionairre | July 23, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

I don't know if Representative Rangel is guilty or innocent, but it seems to me that whenever ethics charges are brought against a politician, the Democrats are the ones that wind up paying while the Republicans waltz away unscathed. No charges filed against Alberto Gonzales for his collusion in the firing of Congressional Lawyers. No charges filed against Bush or Cheney for the murder of countless thousands of Iraqi and Afghani civilians, not to mention, American servicemen and women. I guess Reagan's Teflon rubbed off on all of his colleagues. If Rangel is proven guilty, he should be censured, of course, I may be wrong but I just get the feeling that it is a witch hunt.

Posted by: billnbillieskid | July 23, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

This is the Republican alternative --Dems may have their problems, but does anything think this is what the country wants:


> 'Yesterday, Rep. Michelle Bachmann (R-MN) spoke to the GOP Youth
> Convention in Washington. One attendee asked Bachmann about what the
> Republicans will do if they win back the House:
>
>      QUESTION: I might be putting the cart before the horse here, but
> assuming the Republicans win the House back this next cycle, how do
> you feel about the chances for a little oversight and a little
> accountability now that the Republicans would have the subpoena
> power? How aggressive do you think?
>
>      BACHMANN: Well I think that's all we should do. I think all we
> should do is issue subpoenas and have one hearing after another.'
>
>


A real positive vision for governance. .. really going to go a long
> way twoard solving the country's problems.
>A great way to spend millions of taxpayer dollars on nothing but revenge.

Posted by: drindl | July 23, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Bring Rangel up on charges if the facts warrant doing so and then try him for his misdeeds. Sack him, jail him, kick him out, if need be. But stop playing political games. No person is indespensible and anyone can be replaced. That includes Rangel.

To say he is a problem is to overstate the obvious. Give him due process and find him guilty or innocent and MOVE ON.

Posted by: ronjeske | July 23, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Jim Hale

go figure, right ?


the democrats protect other democratic criminals - the democrats have no principles.

Look at the democrats on this blog - they complain day in and day out about the conservatives -

BUT to ask them to apply the same standards to fellow democrats, there is SILENCE.


Nothing but SILENCE. It is so pathetic - and it calls into question the judgement of the democrats.


They are unfit to govern. Pure and Simple.


.

Posted by: YouCanPostThis | July 23, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

I've always liked Charlie Rangel. He's a black politician who seemed to have a good sense of reality. He reminded me of my father (not black). They're both that same veteran generation. Clarence Thomas, who differs ideologicaly from Mr. Rangel, likewise says a lot of things in the way my father would say them. Both Rangel and Thomas are people who can cross the racial divide, even if you disagree with what they are saying, because they say it in a way that reminds of friends and family. That goes a long way toward promoting inter-racial understanding even across poitical opinions. Unfortunately, that's a relatively small group among national political figures.

It's too bad Mr. Rangel hung around too long that he ends his career like this. He should have retired like my father.

Posted by: jfv123 | July 23, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

A lot of scummy rightwingers on here, dawd, I think you're right -- it's Drudgers, the bottom of the barrel, the insect swarm, the hive 'mind.'

Posted by: drindl | July 23, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

It's ironic:

The Dems just fell all over themselves ousting a gal from her job at the USDA - over little or nothing. Snap judgment and all.

But Rangel - who is clearly a criminal - has not been called upon to pull over to the side of his road and immediately use his smart phone to resign. Not by Obama. Not by the NAACP. Not by the Congressional Black Caucus. Not by the left-wing media.

And yet the left wonders why the D's might be in danger of losing their Congressional majorities.

D must stand for Dense.

Posted by: JimHale1 | July 23, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Chris:


NONE of the other horrible bahavior on this blog has been addressed.


In addition - the harassment has continued.


The False Charges of Racism have to stop - the sterotyping has to stop. These are just provocations which CAUSE the fighting here - and cause people to want to change the subject.


These people are NOT engaging in discussions - they are attacking day in and day out.


I just want everyone to know that whenever broadwayjoe brings up "Gregory Charles Royal" - he is trying to call Sarah Palin a racist.


I believe that the False Charges of Racism on this board have gotten way out of control.


And that includes the use of sexual slurs against the Tea Party.


The democrats are constantly demanding that the Tea Party exercise restraint - HOWEVER THE DEMOCRATS DO NOT EXERCISE RESTRAINT IN THEIR ATTACKS ON THE TEA PARTY - FULL OF SLURS, SMEARS AND FALSE CHARGES OF RACISM.


This is one major problem on this board as well.


I object - broadwayjoe and ddawd have violated the terms of service on this board dozens of times - there has been no enforcement.


Everyone else has to endure this kind of behavior - and it has been dealt with the way it has -


To blame one party in this situation is just wrong.


.

Posted by: YouCanPostThis | July 23, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

"Shouldn't it be alpha to zeta?"

Zeta is not Zed.

But, then, its all Greek to me...


rimshot!

Posted by: bsimon1 | July 23, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Hooray for Charlie Rangle...he has provided yet another reason to throw out this majority of self indulging, two faced, forked-tongued crooks.
The Black Congressional Caucus should be proud, Old Charlie is the typical poster boy for their cause!!!!
They remind me of the old Three Stooges Lawfirm...Dewey, Cheetham and Howe

Posted by: brooklynborn1 | July 23, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Future events:
TAX CHEAT reprobate rangle says: "The House investigative committee is a bunch of racists."
Hussien then calls him to apologize.
The House committee then REVERSES and declares TAX CHEAT rangle "the best CONgressman ever".

Posted by: TeaPartyPatriot | July 23, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Considering the level of confidence that's held for members on both sides of the aisle these days, it is doubtful that the outcome of Mr. Rangel's case will make much difference one way or the other as far as the election goes. However, voters have had enough of "one standard for them, a totally different one for the members of congress". Those on the ethics committee that don't support good housekeeping over the good old boys safety net might watch where their support is coming from as well. It's time for law in congress. Out with him.

Posted by: sober1 | July 23, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

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But what makes this tote bag even more special is that every dollar toward its purchase price will be used to support Speaker Pelosi and courageous House Democrats who are under increased attack by those who wish to take our country back to the policies of former President George W. Bush.

With only a limited number of my Team Pelosi bags available, I wanted to offer you the first chance to receive one.

Become A Pelosi Bagger and thank you again for standing with Speaker Pelosi,

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P.S. Free Chuckles Rangel

Posted by: leapin | July 23, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Why do the Greeks end with a horseshoe anyways? Shouldn't it be alpha to zeta? Maybe if they spend less time worshiping a thousand gods, they'd learn how to alphabetize.

This post smells like it's going to get flooded with right wing garbage from a Drudge link or something. Maybe in 30 years, I'll start feeling it in my bones.

Also, Rangel should resign. I think if it were a better year for the Democrats, it wouldn't be such a big deal. Like how William Jefferson didn't really hurt Democrats in 2006 or 2008. (Obviously he lost in 2008, but the party did fine)

I'm actually thinking of Mark Foley in 2006. He was kind of seen as the straw that broke the camel's back.

Some differences.
1) Foley's crimes were covered up by Hastert. Thus, you couldn't really isolate him from the rest of the party. There's no indication that Pelosi has been protecting Rangel. If such a revelation were to come out, that would be a lot more damaging.

2) House Democrats haven't really been dogged by scandal the way that Delay, Ney, and Cunningham were. Jefferson was voted out before he was convicted and there hasn't really been anything up to this point. The quarrel with the Democrats has been their failure to improve the economic situation, not so much ethical lapses.

3) You can make the argument that the camel's back is already broken and that Rangel really isn't going to make much of a difference. I disagree because Democrats actually have been showing some momentum with improvements in the generic ballot as well as improved numbers in various individual races such as Louisiana and Nevada and Kentucky. Rangel could really put a drag on this momentum. And he won't simply be a three day story. His hearings could drag on up to election day.

Posted by: DDAWD | July 23, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

This is a good example of state and federal Representives that serve too long. There should be an age limit, not term. These legislatures are more obligated to special interests than to the constituents that put them into office. Anyone older than seventy years of age should be voted out of office. The country needs new ideas and honest Representatives that will put the people first, over special interest groups. I bet if the Ethic Commission performs a thorough investigating of most older Representatives, they will find more violations of members. And, it is not a Democratic or Republicans issue, just greed.

Posted by: SteveLC | July 23, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

He has been hiding behind Pelosi's skirts now for two years. If he were a White Republican he would have been gone a year ago. Hard to imagine why they are protecting Rangel when his infractions are so well documented. The guy has been living like a Pasha on the public dime during a period when most Americans are suffering. He is the poster boy for bad Congressional Behavior. If the Dems don't dump him they are handing the GOP a winning issue.

Posted by: jkk1943 | July 23, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse


Now, now, they are looking at Rangel who has been known for years to be one of the shadiest characters in Washington. Wouldn't it be nice if they would finally rid the party of this less than honest pol. Rangel personifies what is wrong in Washington.

Vote OUT-OF-OFFICE incumbents of both parties as they are the pols that got this country into the mess it is.

Also vote for term limits when possible.

Let's get the bottom feeders out of Washington in this next election.

Posted by: ronrod17509 | July 23, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse


Now, now, they are looking at Rangel who has been known for years to be one of the shadiest characters in Washington. Wouldn't it be nice if they would finally rid the party of this less than honest pol. Rangel personifies what is wrong in Washington.

Vote OUT-OF-OFFICE incumbents of both parties as they are the pols that got this country into the mess it is.

Also vote for term limits when possible.

Let's get the bottom feeders out of Washington in this next election.

Posted by: ronrod17509 | July 23, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

What is all the fuss about? Rep. Rangel should hang in there and contest the charges. The issue of wrong doing is really irrelavent with this congress. He will be found completely innocent by his peers and honored with a dinner at the White House. I see no reason to waste the money on a trial when the outcome is assured by his party.

Posted by: boater452 | July 23, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

It is about this Congress cleans house!

Posted by: akeegan2 | July 23, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, I'll never use Arial character map for Greek again, never.

Posted by: shrink2 | July 23, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Charles Rangel has had a very distinguished career - when Deferment Dick Cheney was playing with lincoln logs, this guy was freezing his azz off in a foxhole in Korea - but fighting these charges will only diminish it and hurt the party, and the causes for which he has fought. He needs to resign, retire and spend the rest of his days relaxing with his family.

Posted by: jbentley4 | July 23, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

What victimization can Charlie claim? He's been in the House for 40 years! That's what I call job security (most especially so in these stressful times). "Criticize him, and risk the wrath of the congressional black caucus and leadership. Don't criticize, and you're weak on ethics." These remarks speak volumes on the reality of today's political and racial climates and need no more elaboration.

Posted by: MadJack1 | July 23, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

"That is all you need to know Democrats, that has to be your Α to Ω."

Somebody buy that man a Π.

Posted by: bsimon1 | July 23, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Cholly is innocent.

Bush did it!

Posted by: Dead_and_Barryd | July 23, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

What ethics? He's a Democrat and he's from NY. His behavior is in line with the historical norms.

Posted by: Dead_and_Barryd | July 23, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

The whole idea of black majority districts is on display here.


ONE DAY, there was an idea to create these districts - in order to give black representation in Congress.

Sounds like a good idea - but now we have the Black Congressional Caucus protecting RANGEL - hardly the stuff of Civil Rights - or doing ANYTHING for the black community.

What we have now is a group of Congressmen who are COMPLETELY ISOLATED FROM WHITE VOTERS

The black majority seats do NOT turn over. These are not just safe seats - they are ultra-safe seats.

The whole system is not working - And Rangel proves it.

If Rangel had more whites in his district, perhaps a challenge would make sense - but even now - a challenge really does not make sense.


What does that tell you ? Any district that is UNABLE to vote out an official like Rangel SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN DRAWN ON THE MAP.

The voters need to have much more control - control which only can come about with much more competitive districts.


.

Posted by: YouCanPostThis | July 23, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

"Don't criticize, and you're weak on ethics."

That is all you need to know Democrats, that has to be your Α to Ω.

Posted by: shrink2 | July 23, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

This "process" is not helping the democrats one bit -


And yet - the idea that Nancy Pelosi is not adhering to her campaign promises from 2006 is completely overshadowed by the stronger reality that Obama has gone back on his ENTIRE platform from 2008.

So, this Rangel thing is more icing on the cake - rather than the cake itself.

But from an inside baseball point of view - and that is what it is - the democrats stink worse than rotting fish.

This episode, with no resignation from Rangel which was due years ago - is just a thick pile of hypocrisy.

Today's news conference - with Rangel holding a news conference to say he will comment on Thursday - this is a complete joke.

Resignation is the only proper response.

To remind EVERYONE - and again this is inside baseball stuff - Rangel is no ordinary Congressman - he was CHAIRMAN OF WAYS AND MEANS.

What a disgrace - what a horrible situation for Nancy Pelosi - UNABLE AND UNWILLING TO GET A RESIGNATION - when that is exactly the kind of thing she promised to do when elected Speaker in 2006.

This is the problem with gerrymandered districts - this is the problem with black-majority districts.

There HAS to be a way to have competitive elections in the House so that people like Rangel do not feel like they should hang on to positions simply because they can.

AND SHAME on the people who vote for him - they are abusing their votes -


.

Posted by: YouCanPostThis | July 23, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

If Dems are smart they will not go easy on Rangel. Dems being what they are, this might be just enough to play into Repub dreams of a 1994-like wave; scandals and all. It's even got the checkbooks.

Posted by: bsimon1 | July 23, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

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