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New York Rep. Eric Massa said Friday that he will resign from the House on Monday afternoon. Photo by Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images

Updated 5:26 p.m.
New York Rep. Eric Massa will resign his House seat on Monday at 5 p.m., he said in a statement Friday, a move that comes just days after he announced his plans to retire at the end of the year.

"A member of my staff believed I had made statements that made him feel 'uncomfortable,' " Massa said in the statement, posted on his House web site. He added, "There is no doubt in my mind I did use language ... that ... might make a Chief Petty Officer feel uncomfortable."

"It's not that I can fight or beat these allegations, I'm guilty." Massa said in a separate statement, to to his Washington and campaign staff, which was reported by his hometown newspaper, the Corning (N.Y.) Leader.

He said in the message to his staff, "It's my fault and I can't blame anyone but myself," adding, "I can't subject my family and staff to a full investigation. It would tear us apart."

In announcing his retirement on Wednesday, Massa denied a Politico report that the House Ethics committee was investigating him over alleged sexual harassment of a male staffer but it was later revealed the committee was in fact pursuing an inquiry into the New York Democrat's conduct.

"In that investigators would be free to ask anything about me, going back to my birth, I simply cannot rise to that level of perfection," Massa said on his House site. "God knows that I am a deeply flawed and imperfect person."

Massa's 29th district takes in a swath of land in western New York and tilts slightly in Republicans' favor. Sen. John McCain (Ariz.) carried the seat with 51 percent in 2008 and George W. Bush won it by 14 points in 2008. (Massa is one of seven retiring House Democrats who represent districts won by McCain in 2008.)

Former Corning Mayor Tom Reed is in the race for Republicans, but the field could grow with Monroe County Executive Maggie Brooks and former congressman Randy Kuhl reportedly interested in running.

On the Democratic side, Massa has encouraged Hornell Mayor Shawn Hogan to consider running but it's not clear whether having the incumbent's blessing will be a help or hindrance in the race. Among the other Democrats mentioned include: Canandaigua Mayor Ellen Polimeni, state Assemblywoman Barbara Lifto, state Assemblyman David Koon and state Assemblywoman Susan John.

Massa's resignation could trigger a special election in the Empire State. Under New York state law, Gov. David Paterson (D) must issue a proclamation declaring the seat vacant and then set a special election date no longer than 40 days after the proclamation. But, there is no specific timeline on when Paterson must declare the seat vacant, meaning, presumably, that he could wait several months and have the seat filled in the November election.

If there is a special, it would be the third special election in the Empire State in the last year and the fifth special set to be run between now and the November midterms.

Like previous special election in New York's 20th and 23rd districts,the nominees would be chosen by the county chairmen rather than a primary -- a process that might well have cost Republicans the 23rd as the conservative base revolted against the choice of moderate state Assemblywoman Dede Scozzafava as the party's standard-bearer.

If a special election is called in the 29th, it would join Florida's 19th, Hawaii's 1st, Pennsylvania's 12th and Georgia's 9th as district hosting specials in the coming months.

By Chris Cillizza  |  March 5, 2010; 3:34 PM ET
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The best way to avoid sexual harassment and crazy bosses is by doing research about potential bosses on sites like eBossWatch: http://www.ebosswatch.com

Posted by: patjenks | March 10, 2010 3:12 AM | Report abuse

The best way to avoid sexual harassment and crazy bosses is by doing research about potential bosses on sites like eBossWatch: http://www.ebosswatch.com

Posted by: patjenks | March 10, 2010 3:12 AM | Report abuse

He knew he was toast before the resignation, the truth is out there, Hil knows and this ball has been in play before 'O' arrived on the Oprah show.

Posted by: RayOne | March 9, 2010 9:15 AM | Report abuse

Bye Bayh, Massa!

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 8, 2010 4:59 PM | Report abuse

RAHM EMANUEL SHOULD RESIGN TOO!!!

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 8, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Rep. Massa (D-NY) will resign at 5:00 PM today, as planned:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/cq/20100308/pl_cq_politics/politics3306629_1

BTW: it wasn't just "any" White House adviser who acosted Massa in the nude; it was Chief of Staff RAHM EMANUEL:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/03/08/massa_rahm_emanuel_would_sell_his_own_mother_for_votes.html

http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/0310/Rahm_is_the_devils_spawn.html

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 8, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse


Is it time for Rahm Emanuel to resign? Vote

http://www.youpolls.com/default.asp

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Posted by: usadblake | March 8, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

According to Massa, a White House advisor approached him nude in the Congressional Fitness shower pointing his finger into his chest threatening him about his planned no vote for Obama's budget. Why was this White House advisor using the Congressional Fitness shower? Why was he nude and approaching anyone much less someone else using the showers? Why were the shower curtains removed? Why was Massa threatened by a White House advisor?
Massa now claims he was forced out since he planned to vote no on the health care garbage we all know is a government takeover of one sixth of our economy. Sounds like he might be right. Something smells very fishy to me. Do not resign Massa until there is an investigation. Something stinks here. Sounds like Obama and his cronies play dirty as if we should all be surprised.

Posted by: greatgran1 | March 8, 2010 2:18 PM | Report abuse

The Ethics committee in CONGRESS Is the BIGGEST JOKE of all. MASSA is out, But RANGEL STILL is in office. THIS CONGRESS should take the gas pipe and just maybe the country would be better off.

Posted by: cj362810 | March 8, 2010 12:23 PM | Report abuse

dbaker, that made absolutely no sense whatsoever.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 8, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

I used to post on Alternet then Truthdig but I soon went on my way for many that posted made lack of common sense and ill-logical remarks.

Now it looks to me like some of those Internet Gangs have migrated from the west to the east. WHY? Would they want to leave their happy homes where all kinds of idle minded chitchat much like playing dungeons and dragons were permitted? I think the sign’s detour became evident from not only the sites management but also the others that a bit of common sense and reason that took away their need to be public idiots and all others cost.

Thoughts about what is NEXT?

Dumb down serfs
Thinking they are in control
Oh No!
By Dwight Baker
March 7, 2010
Dbaker007@stx.rr.com

Birds Eye View Pointing the Finger for We the People Advocates

Simple words explain what many of our folks is being lead to do. Wreck down our brother and sisterhoods of kindness care concerns and considerations in our America for one another.

The picture above tells of the sordid horrid world of torrid tales of silliness that permeates the pages of writ and what is seen and heard in interviews on the Internet and is broadcast on TV by the Mogul Media Hounds. All kinds of traps are set by the Mogul Media Hounds to prove just how dumb down the broad cross sections of American People is today. Those things are done for one reason to prove that We as a People do not have the slightest clue how to change our Great and Abundant America and that our communed will to rule ourselves has severe lacks and the proof is We as a People refuse to put up defenses when our Freedoms are attacked.

So --- Riding on the Wrecking ball--- OH NO ---that is a picture and message that should be passed along and published for all. Clearly showing that We the People being dumb down as the imps in hell!

NOW are you ‘ONE’ riding along on that Wrecking Ball?

What more can be done TODAY for those stupid as imps in hell our brothers and sisters that want to hard charge against one another instead of taking on the real evil tyrannical enemies, The Warmongering Barons of Old the Predator Beast?

Simply ask “What do you suggest as the quick down and dirty answers for all of us to do --- to take care of the biggest things that block our roads of freedom ---Where must we put our attentions to maintain our position as Free and Sovereign People”.

Our God Conscience tells us the things that we must not do! Yet many like to run to those putrid wells of mischief to find others who agree with doing nothing of import but getting a buzz from communicating with other less other’s who agree! To that end My God Forbids.

Concerns and Questions contact Dbaker007@stx.rr.com

Posted by: dbaker00711281944 | March 8, 2010 10:04 AM | Report abuse

"@ddawd,

Not that the trade deals aren't taking jobs, so I agree that exporting jobs truly is a problem and a big one. "

I agree that they are problematic, but just because something is problematic doesn't mean that you can just go blaming it on whatever you want. Blaming the recession on trade deals instead of the Wall St. crash is like blaming cancer on trade deals and not cigarettes.

Posted by: DDAWD | March 8, 2010 3:10 AM | Report abuse

I think the offshoring of jobs is a contradiction not even the trolls can embrace. On the one hand they want to attack Obama for not doing enough about jobs; on the other hand they reflexively support corporate business and the whole "Econ 101" scold. So mostly they don't talk aboutvit and stick to screaming about healthcare.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 8, 2010 2:38 AM | Report abuse

@ddawd,

Not that the trade deals aren't taking jobs, so I agree that exporting jobs truly is a problem and a big one.

I have suspecting for some time that 37th is pulling our leg big time. When you see things like "Cut off all imports from China - that will fix them really fast", either the writer is totally naive or just trying to create a strawman to generate discussion.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | March 8, 2010 1:29 AM | Report abuse

Take it easy on 37th. Trade deals are making him write moronic things.

Posted by: DDAWD | March 8, 2010 1:19 AM | Report abuse

37th,

This is your premise: the economy in 2010 doesn't have anything to do with the global financial crisis in 2008-9. A crisis that came within days of toppling all financial institutions, creating a global bank run and resulted in bankrupting whole countries, couldn't have anything to do with the depression being experienced a mere year later.


Posted by: 12BarBlues | March 8, 2010 12:30 AM | Report abuse

Yeah 37th like you're on firm ground talking about others making sense. You're so dope-damaged that you need to recycle your own posts when they're idiotic nonsense in the first place. You write like a meth-head who went through the windshield ten minutes ago. Just STFU and go away.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 7, 2010 11:57 PM | Report abuse

DDAWD


You are not making any sense.


They said you are a woman with one tooth, is that true ?

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 7, 2010 8:55 PM | Report abuse

"The real reason our economy is in such bad shape right now is not the Wall Street crisis"

Trade deals are also

The reason that it's light outside during the day, not the sun

The reason appliances operate only when they are plugged in, not the motion of electrons.

The reason the Saints won the Super Bowl, not their potent offense and opportunistic defense.

The reason chocolate tastes sweet, not the sugar.

The reason that 37+o says such patently stupid things, not his lack of education and intellectual curiosity.

Posted by: DDAWD | March 7, 2010 8:44 PM | Report abuse

12BarBlues


The real reason our economy is in such bad shape right now is not the Wall Street crisis - it is the trade deals, which have sapped our economy of jobs, and closed down whole industries.

Again, the story is this - the democrats take a whole bunch of campaign contributions, push through the trade deals "fast track", and then look the other way while jobs, jobs, jobs get exported overseas.

THIS ECONOMIC CRISIS IS MORE STRUCTURAL STEMMING FROM THE TRADE DEALS THAN ANYTHING ELSE.

HHHHHMMMMM "Fast Track" sures sounds familiar, doesn't it? Sure sounds like the reconciliation of today, doesn't it ??


This weekend the people of Iceland voted over 90% to tell the bankers to go stuff it and they are not paying for the bills.

We should do the same thing - REPEAL THE TRADE DEALS - TELL ALL THE BANKERS TO GO STUFF IT.

All these other countries, like China, who have used our demand to fuel their economies - TELL THEM TO TAKE A LEAP - CUT THEM OFF.

Cut off all imports from China - that will fix them really fast.

END THE TRADE DEALS NOW. PUT AMERICAN BACK TO WORK.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 7, 2010 8:28 PM | Report abuse

12BarBlues

Again you are totally wrong - the politicians are elected to do the people's work - not to take the money from Wall Street, gut out all effective regulation, and then look the other way when the economy is hurt.

Seriously folks, there were cries as early as 2006 that there were problems in the markets, but no one did anything about it.

Obama and the rest of the democrats were more concerned about taking money so they could win elections - rather than actually averting a financial crisis - it was an "anything goes" atmosphere.

During this time, Obama took more money than anyone - one has to add in political contibutions all the way back to 1989 to get Obama into second place.

Anything else is pure partisan deception.

Instead of making excuses when you believe the democrats are honestly at fault, why don't you TAKE REPSONSIBILITY - AND STATE CLEARLY THAT YOU SUPPORT A BUNCH OF BUMS WHO SHOULD BE THROWN OUT OF OFFICE.


Now there is something to say - these other guys have nothing to say but to start talking about music.


The fat lady is singing, by the way.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 7, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

I am almost done reading the book; I could give you my copy.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 7, 2010 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, 12Bar, for a good link. I am familiar with most of this and we [you and I] are obviously viewing the same hazards and the same apparently obvious choices [obvious to us, that is]. I fear the Congress will not see the acute need, and neither will the Geithner-Summers pole in the Admin.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | March 7, 2010 6:25 PM
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It is scary to think we have to rely on Congress to re-regulate the industry and yet Congress is being plyed with the narcotics of the financial industry lobby. As far as Geithner/summers, one couldn't say they are unaware of the problems. We only have to wonder whether they are the handmaidens to the industry or whether they can bring intelligence to the process. I don't know enough about the internals to know the answer to that.

The question that I can't answer is: what force will it take to re-regulate the industry? We know what forces will be working against it.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | March 7, 2010 6:48 PM | Report abuse

The global financial crisis was a lot bigger than Clinton, Fannie/Freddie, GW Bush, Barney Frank, the Rs, the Ds, et al. These guys were all players, but that's like saying the cause of the whole thing was Dick Fuld of Lehman Bros. Everyone played their part and there is plenty of blame to pass around.

The crisis is so complicated and inter-related that it is a mistake to politicize it and thus view it as the U.S. The problem is a lot bigger than R vs D.

Global finance got too large, too complex, too inter-related, and too risky. When the system started to teeter, as each bank started to go into technical default, then each bank in an attempt to save itself, started calling on the others for more collateral. Had this continued for long, Goldman Sachs would have collapsed.

There are any number of books out now that chronicle the events on fall, 2008 and they ARE interesting. Scary, actually.

The problem with re-regulating the banks (and only one of the problems) is that finance is now a global industry, and regulations that worked 30 years ago may not work as well today. We all should pray that we reregulate the banking industry enough to minimize the chances of this happening again, and then work on perfecting the regulatory scheme. We also better pray that all countries do likewise, and work in concert. It's a tall order.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | March 7, 2010 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Margaret Meyers:


What is wrong with you ???? Your own link proves my point.

First, Obama took more money than anyone (from the individuals on your list)

This list is from 1989 - so if you take out Dodd's contributions from the 1900s perhaps Obama would exceed him with all the totals.

My point was clear: what in the world was a freshman Senator getting more money as compared to the Chairmen of all the committees?

Margaret - you are a LIAR.


And a fool - Don't try to DECEIVE us.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 7, 2010 6:30 PM | Report abuse

37thand0street:

Why are you wasting time with them? I would recommend Ken Gormley's latest book on Clinton: "Death of American Virtue".

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 7, 2010 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, 12Bar, for a good link. I am familiar with most of this and we [you and I] are obviously viewing the same hazards and the same apparently obvious choices [obvious to us, that is]. I fear the Congress will not see the acute need, and neither will the Geithner-Summers pole in the Admin.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | March 7, 2010 6:25 PM | Report abuse

12BarBlue asks:

where did all the money go?

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They stole it - and both parties let them get away with it.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 7, 2010 6:16 PM | Report abuse

37th is full of Right Wing Fairy Tales today.

Clinton lied about something most men will lie about. He should have owned up. But why was he being hounded about it in the first place? Willing adult female encourages sexual contact. Hillary's business, no one elses.

Next, Obama received just $6K in donations from the Fannie/Freddie PACs while in the Senate. Only 125 of the 354 lawmakers listed by the FEC received less from the PACs than Obama. So, in fact, he is in the lowest third of lawmakers receiving money from the MAC PACs.

He did also receive another $120K in legally limited donations from individual employees of the MACs. Every citizen is allowed to make those donations and clearly, many of them did. Considering that some $500,000,000.00 was contributed to Obama's campaign, I don't think that $126K was enough to "buy" him.

I'll include a citation so 37th can go and take a lookey-loo at the FECs own numbers:

http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2008/09/update-fannie-mae-and-freddie.html

Posted by: margaretmeyers | March 7, 2010 6:13 PM | Report abuse

For anyone who is interested in a layman's explanation of the the financial crisis in easy lessons, this is the best:

http://baselinescenario.com/financial-crisis-for-beginners/

* Securitization, CDOs, and banking capital
* Stock market vs. credit market
* Crises of confidence and bank runs
* Credit default swaps
* Bank recapitalization
* De-leveraging (or, where did all the money go?)

Posted by: 12BarBlues | March 7, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

@mark: quick check, don't see the Kenton track but I'll look further, I have a LOT of Art Pepper.

I can at least put together a list soon.

Have a box of noise cassettes entering to discogs now, all in perfect shape, MANY valuable. Should get enough of all this to more than cover the surgery bill my insurance screwed me on and enough left over for another piece of land in VN. My sixth.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 7, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Your thoughts?

Posted by: mark_in_austin | March 7, 2010 1:33 PM
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mark, sorry, I've been offline for a while.

I'm hardly an expert in these matters. Very complicated and I think not conducive to easy answers. It seems the solution sets seem to be 1) return to an earlier set of regulations when the system seemed to be more in check; 2) abandon regulations; and 3) develop a new set of regulations.

Where we want to end up is with financial institutions that are smaller and more competitive; with financial products that serve a real economic need; without financial products that in their entirety can bring down the global financial system (credit default swaps for example); with a real separation between investment and commercial banking; and with management that does not embarrass us as the new robber barons. That is just a partial list.

The financial institutions we had then were too big, too complex to be understood by anyone in order to evaluate risk within the institution or globally. And those financial institutions are even bigger and more complex today. This is REALLY scary.

Our equity market works because we believe that companies are required to reveal sufficient information for investors to evaluate and price. That is OBVIOUSLY not true. To think that we all lost tons of money, not on penny stocks, but on blue chips!

Who would I listen to if I had to write regulations: I would listen to the professor types (Simon Johnson, Krugman, Volcker, Kwak, many others). I would not listen to the Wall Street types. I would not listen to the politicians, who are the derivative of the Wall Street types.

All the above isn't very helpful, I know. I just think that the institutions are TOO BIG. Not only too big to fail, they are too big to exist. If we don't bring the complexity down, we WILL have a global meltdown in my lifetime.

Do you read http://baselinescenario.com?
Did you read Sorkin's book "Too Big to Fail"?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | March 7, 2010 5:33 PM | Report abuse

Way to stay on topic guys


What's next - why don't they bring back Casey Kasum and America's Top 40 ?


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 7, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Chris F., you could email me at any time about the cds at

mark_in_austin@operamail.com.

I will skip discogs. com on your description.

Art Pepper and Stan Kenton would be terrific, especially if you own a Kenton disc that includes "Intermission Riff". Any Mulligan?

Any period from Baroque through Prokofieff suits me at times. My Beethoven, Bach, and Mozart collections are very broad and inclusive. But I have much from Corelli to Ives and Copland. So there could be many cds I would be willing to buy in bulk from you, so to speak. My opera taste runs to Puccini and Verdi, but my collection is mainly Met operas from the 70s and 80s on laser video disk that I am now copying to DVD.

I used to build my own amps and speakers. I used to be able to hear music better than I can now. No amount of gym work lets me hear the high overtones I could when I was in the Navy and tested to 18k. I'd be lucky if I heard a tone at 11k now.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | March 7, 2010 5:07 PM | Report abuse

ON the Massa case, I would like to hear EXACTLY what the comments were.

As for the staffer, instead of just quitting, he turns in the Congressman, and ends up getting the entire office out-of-work ???

I don't get how that makes any sense.

I'm big on Freedom of Speech - and I'm big on people saying whatever they want - who cares - people should have thicker skin.

I possible scenario is that the staffer is a closet homosexual - and didn't want the Congressmen making comments - even though the Congressman really doesn't know that he is gay.

Unless the Congressman has gay-dar.

Who knows.

I find it troubling that the Congressman really does not know what the exact problem was - and which staffer made the complaint - sort of appears to be an over-reaction if one is not sure what is going on.


AND given how Nancy Pelosi stood by Charlie Rangel, why is Massa out the door so quickly ???

Maybe there is something to this story we have not been told - but the whole thing really does not add up.

Reading the comments on here, being gay is pretty accepted, so that is not a reason to resign. So what could have been said that is soooo grave ???


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 7, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Noacoler

Nice comment - do you have any of substance to say ???

Or do you just harass other posters everyday?


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 7, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Go do some more crystal you brain-charred twit

Posted by: Noacoler | March 7, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Noacoler


So you blame women for all of men's sins?


That story is as old as Adam and Eve.


Give us all a break.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 7, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

What Clinton did was capitulate to the advances of a woman who set out to blow the CiC. He didn't intimidate her nor initiate anything. It wasn't honorable but it was a pennycandle next to the 15 KW lighthouse of Sanford going AWOL on his responsibilities or the GRB of Bush lying us into Iraq.

As for perjury, I say lying is a perfectly prudent answer to prurient curiosity, though I would have preferred he'd told the Republican invedtigators to go screw themmselves.

Nothing to say about blocking him from going after bin Laden, I see. Not hard to see where your priorities lie.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 7, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Long as we've shaken the Massa story to rags ..

@mark: MP3's ability to render accurate compression varies broadly on the genre.  For synthesizer and acoustic sources it could be very very good; I ripped a Trance CD called Pigs in Space a long time ago at a paltry 128-bit level and even A-B-ing the two I couldn't hear it.  Regular sine waves can be encoded with great accuracy.  So with the top rate of 320-bit I don't think either of us, or even most children, could hear a difference with most music.

Lossless encoding, not available in MP3, is literally indistinguishable from the original, not by any subjective or laboratory test.  And with hard disk space as cheap as it is now, I rip everything lossless.  Only iTunes now, I no long keep dual libraries with WMA.
When I used MP3 there were always some tracks that revealed the loss.  The cannon shot at the opening of Laibach's "Gebürt Einer Nation" (a German cover of Queen's "One Nation") was a muddy crackle even at 320.  And since most of what I listen to is literally noise, the granularity would simply not be there.  A lossless AAC or WMA is literally a transcoding of a WAV file, which is what a CD is.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 7, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Owning up and taking one's lumps, very D-esque.

Clinton did that - Clinton resigned when he was caught.

NOO Noacoler - what Clinton did was actually ENCOURAGE every corrupt person in the country to hang out, because Clinton showed one could weather a horrible storm.


Noacoler - I could point out errors in your logic in almost every posting you make.


That is why all you do is limit the amount of substance - and then you mock other posters.

You have been banned three times - please leave.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 7, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Eric Massa took a beating today on the Sunday shows.

Wait. No he didn't. He has that special (D) next to his name.

Nothing to see here. Move along concerned citizens.

What a difference a (D) makes.

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Yes, Chuckles, what a difference it makes.  Massa has owned up to his indiscretions and is honorably resigning.  A press that would savage a man who admits his failings wouldn't be very palatable, save of course to the gotcha audience and you guys have your Fox News and hate radio.

Owning up and taking one's lumps, very D-esque.
Not ver R-esque, though; Larry Craig insulted our intelligence with "wide stance" (toilet wh0re) and served out his term; the rascals whom Margaret listed  below are almost all still in office and simply denying and defying and their take-responsibility-for-your-actions supporters are perfectly happy that they skate.  That's the Republican way.  Lie and deny.

Which brings us to the biggest unresolves scandal of the last century .. the two chief executives and their Israel-über-alles minions who falsified information to fight a war we didn't need after getting us into another that served only to slake bloodthirst when they'd let the real perpetrators get away.  Trillions of dollars spent killing civilians and shifting sand, thousands of troops dead, our readiness at its lowest point since the 40s, and the war criminals who held the White House get standing ovations and speaking fees.  No outrage there, I see.  What a difference an R makes.

Bush, Cheney, and the half-citizen enablers like Feith and Wolfowitz should be turned over to Iraqi justice.  They use swords.  That would be justice.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 7, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

@everyone,

I heard that Sarah Palin is going to write another book. True?

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what do you mean, "another? Palin has to hire someone to do her 140-character tweets, someone else wrote her "book" for her. Write a book? She ahould aspire to *read* one, but if she did her supporters might feel betrayed.

You mean she'll put her name on another with-book full of snark and gotcha.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 7, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Chris F., do you have a catalog of your remaining cds posted anywhere? My interests are broad, but tend to classical and jazz for the medium b/c the dynamic range and depth of instrumentation is better preserved on an uncompressed cd. In other words, I cannot hear the difference [any more] on human voice recordings on mp3, assuming that I could have fifty years ago.

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my online catalog on discogs.com is mostly og genres certainly if no interest to you: dark ambient, noise (that's right), industrial, 90s electronica. Some light ambient on the way.

Not a lot of jazz, most of it Art Pepper, almost all his releases over his career from the days of Stan Kenton to his death in 1982. Lot of Big Bank, a few others like Getz and Reinhardt.

Classical: emphasis on the 20th century, but vast Romantic, Baroque, Rennaisance too. Not a lot of Classical, mostl Mozart. It will take a long time to list, but with your email I'll let you have fiirst crack when I do.

Another hundred since I went back to sleep! And all from one shelf of dark ambient and noise compilations. With none more shelves to
list. Student housing in VN, and I still have the music as lossless rips.

ANY compression destroys noise.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 7, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

mark_in_austin and all the democrats:


By the way, if any of you are loyal to the democrats because you believe they care more about the poor and the inner cities - well look at their actions, not their words.

The democratic party has become a one-way campaign contribution collection operation, and that is it -

Nothing more - the democrats have not DONE ONE THING FOR THE INNER CITIES SINCE THE 1960S -

So, all I can say - in the middle of all this "analysis" that you seem to be doing, look at the actual actions of the democrats and base your decisions on that.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 7, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

mark_in_austin and all the democrats:


When I say "sold out" I mean campaign money - to the DNC and other democratic entities -


And don't think that Hillary going to New York to run for the Senate had nothing to do with the lack of regulation on Wall Street - the Clintons wanted to currey favor in New York - to smooth the path for Hillary's run and to clear the field.


When I say "sold out" - I mean "sold out" - there were also reports that if the Monica scandal did not hit, there were going to be serious Congressional investigations into the Chinese and Indonesian money going to the DNC -

Clinton was knee-deep in a mess.


Our economy is a mess - it didn't get here just because of a few overpriced houses causes mortgage portfolios to go bust - No, this was a systematic problem starting with the trade deals and the lack of regulations on Wall Street.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 7, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

mark_in_austin and all the democrats:


You all have to understand something: the democrats sold out the whole country - starting in the 1990s.

The democrats sold us out with the trade deals - with NAFTA and the deals with China.

The democrats sold us out by allowing Wall Street to go free of any effective regulations.

Go out there - look at the economy - you can blame Bush all you want - but all of it really started in the 1990s.


And Bush was fighting the wars - Clinton didn't want to go after al queda in the 1990s - while there were all sorts of terrorist attacks against us - Clinton tried to ignore the situation in the Middle East, hoping it would go away.

Gross incompetence in the 1990s led to the troubles today - and the country still has not recovered. If you think Obama is going to be any better you are sadly mistaken. If anything Obama wants to repeat the mistakes of Clinton.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 7, 2010 2:09 PM | Report abuse

mark_in_austin


Who took more money from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac than anyone else? Obama.


Never in the history of the country has a freshman Senator been showered with such money from the financial giants that be.

If you want any clues to what kind of regulation is going to come out of this disaster - you can look no further.


AND don't for one minute think that Bill Clinton's administration was not the one who repealed the most significant regulations - like the Glass Steagall Act.

The bubble-to-bust nightmares started under Clinton - and many of the Clinton people still had appointments at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac long after Clinton left office - like Harold Raines.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 7, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse

12bar, Thanx for the 538 link. I solicit your opinion about the following.

Simon Johnson no longer thinks enough of the "Volcker rules" will pass to properly re-regulate finance. Krugman thinks it is now better to have no loaf than half of one, in this respect. For me proper regulation begins with again dividing commercial from investment banking, identifying all securities and uncollateralized debt to the public for risk factors as is done with new equity issues of publicly traded entities, and making the analogous practice to Ch. 11 available to reorganize or liquidate financial holding companies. We have that power over commercial banks, but have lost the clout with their merger into investment holding operations. There are minor tweaks, too, that would be helpful on their own. Regulating "mortgage bankers" comes to mind.

Your thoughts?

Posted by: mark_in_austin | March 7, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Chris F., do you have a catalog of your remaining cds posted anywhere? My interests are broad, but tend to classical and jazz for the medium b/c the dynamic range and depth of instrumentation is better preserved on an uncompressed cd. In other words, I cannot hear the difference [any more] on human voice recordings on mp3, assuming that I could have fifty years ago.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | March 7, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Eric Massa took a beating today on the Sunday shows.

Wait. No he didn't. He has that special (D) next to his name.

Nothing to see here. Move along concerned citizens.

What a difference a (D) makes.

Posted by: Washington13 | March 7, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

@everyone,

I heard that Sarah Palin is going to write another book. True?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | March 7, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

@noa,

You won't find me in disagreement. Of course, the art is exactly how much regulation and taxation, isn't it.

If we don't curb finance we will end up with the situation of Iceland (and Ireland) where finance was so large, that it destroyed the country when it collapsed in 2008.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | March 7, 2010 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Back on topic, I think it's a good thing that Massa resigns.

==

we said all there was to say about Massa by noon Friday.

You think all gays should resign or be persecuted, and then subject to judicial murder. You and your opinion are equally valueless.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 7, 2010 12:34 PM | Report abuse

@12: finance has enormous power. Chartered and regulated, that power can achieve. But it seeks to preserve it's power more than to achieve, meaning stability and security for those at the top.

Unregulated finance is like an undhielded reactor, doing nothing but damage to everything around. Our history is plain: we prosper when finance and business are HIGHLY regulated and HIGHLY taxed.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 7, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Back on topic, I think it's a good thing that Massa resigns.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 7, 2010 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Somebody has money.. I'm up late and now briefly watching my CD collection as I put it up for sale a shelf at a time, money is POURING in. Can't bring thousands of disks to VN and I have the music on hard drives anyway, many 1 TB backups. Plan to use it to build student apartments in VN, cash to live on and a grateful government. Communist, by the way, should make the goobs' hearts race, probably get another few hundred by the time I wake up for the. Guilt at buying so many dropping fast.

Back to sleep. Visions of sugarplums.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 7, 2010 12:18 PM | Report abuse

@noa,

You are also right about jobs. Just like a dog is pulled by a leash, jobs are the dog who is pulled by economic activity. Jobs will come, and they are already coming.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | March 7, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

We should make most of finance flat out illegal. Bloody parasites.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 7, 2010 12:06 PM
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Finance is essentially a parasitic activity. I'll agree with you there. But I've made finance my profession all my life, and I'll defend it when it stays within the bumpers. When finance is allowed to "innovate" anything to anyone at any time, is when finance becomes like the dragon at Chinese New Years. I can't imagine a world without finance, but we better rein in this monster or we will again rue the day.

Can you imagine a world without finance? I'm interested in your ideas.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | March 7, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

For the record, I do not think that my opinion counts for more than anyone else. When someone tells me to read case books, I'm not going to pretend I haven't though. If anyone ELSE has a question about that (or, God forbid, the thread topic), please let me know.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 7, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

@12: none of this matters if the jobs don't come back. And if Obama doesn't grow up snd stop trying to be "bipartisan" then power could go back to the party that in these desperate times has repealing the estate tax as it's highest priority. Bipartisanship means stalemate and retrograde progress, a GOP victory could literally mean the end of the world. Starting with the dissolution of the middle class.

That the stock market is up should surprise nobody. It follows unemployment. When companies sack workers, investors clink bourbon glasses. Wall Street is not your friend. We should make most of finance flat out illegal. Bloody parasites.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 7, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

@Margaret: politeness is virtuous, though I think it goes too far to honor dishonesty. But mark claims to actually believe Jake's absurd claim of a Stanford doctorate, he who couldn't qualify for a high school debate team.

It's just a dodge to establish intellectual credentials that he can't establish by, you know, exhbiting intelligence. That an actual lawyer is the only one believing so plainly false a claim just seems bizarre, especially given Jake's perfect record of falsehood and his despicable bigotry.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 7, 2010 11:56 AM | Report abuse

For those of us who wonder why the stock market has gone up more than 60% since its lows in 2008. And why it continues to be buoyant.

From the Fed's latest Beige Book report:

Reports from the twelve Federal Reserve Districts indicated that economic conditions continued to expand since the last report...

Nine Districts reported that economic activity improved, but in most cases the increases were modest...

Retail sales improved in the Chicago, Minneapolis, Dallas, and San Francisco Districts, and New York said sales were well above year-ago levels in January and met expectations in February despite inclement weather...

Personal income increased $11.4 billion, or 0.1 percent...

Durable goods purchases have been increasing for the last four months. This is very good news as it indicates cash for clunkers did not skew purchases forwarded as feared.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/

Posted by: 12BarBlues | March 7, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

margaretmeyers, thanks for the reminder.
And Jake, please do not tease to much, you see the result. I hope you are not doing this to destroy the blog.

Posted by: mixedbreed | March 7, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Noa, Mark is polite to every poster here. Don't mistake being respectful for being in agreement.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | March 7, 2010 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Hey folks, just ignore Jake.
He only wants attention !

Posted by: mixedbreed | March 7, 2010 10:01 AM | Report abuse

Ped. How is spending your entire weekend on this blog insulting Jake show anything but what a poor pitiful lonely loser you are?

You no longer demonstrate a shred of intelligence.

Posted by: Moonbat | March 7, 2010 9:18 AM | Report abuse

Yeah the "lawyer" who's incapable of the simplest logical argument and knows less about science than a sixth-grader.

And most bizarre if all: mark actually believes him.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 7, 2010 8:38 AM | Report abuse

Jake clings to Gods, Guns, Gays and "I'm a lawyer."

Back when he got his degree, in about 1960, that was a kind of a big deal. Not anymore, 'cause half the baby boom went to law school.

When my brother and I talk politics he never says "Margaret, I'm a Judge so my opinion counts for more than yours because of all the case books I've read." Yet Jake trots out the "I'm a lawyer" line almost daily.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | March 7, 2010 7:39 AM | Report abuse

Well I woke up today and found
frost perched on the town,
it hovered in a frozen sky,

ooops wrong song.

But I see Scientology has been abusive and ABC Disney is off Cablevision, so maybe now they can pull those stupid ads off The Fix.

I'm going back to bed.

Posted by: shrink2 | March 7, 2010 4:01 AM | Report abuse

No one else?

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 7, 2010 1:46 AM | Report abuse

Dumb racist b astard

Posted by: Noacoler | March 7, 2010 1:45 AM | Report abuse

Not even smart enough to figure out why nobody wants to take you up on that whine for attention. ANY dog can discern when it's unwelcome, so, yeah, you literally are dumber than a dog.

What a pity you were born.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 7, 2010 1:37 AM | Report abuse

Anyone else?

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 7, 2010 1:30 AM | Report abuse

Not even a cocker spaniel would be as stupidly literal as you either, unless it was severely autistic.

Stanford law, yeah right. I've know guys with a GED brighter than you.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 7, 2010 1:26 AM | Report abuse

There's no cocker spaniel that could type this sentence.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 7, 2010 1:17 AM | Report abuse

You're not posting, you're pasting, you're as compulsive as someone on crack. It must be really hard for your dope-damaged brain to write because you just post the same thing over and over like some brain damaged meth addict. Don't think you're kidding anyone with this BS about free speech it topics, you're never remotely on topic.

You seek to suppress discussion by flooding the blog with your brain damaged drivel.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 7, 2010 1:13 AM | Report abuse

12BarBlues


In terms of "topic" there are too many people on here who prefer to comment on other posters instead of an actual "topic"

Seriously, which bars did you go to tonight?


You didn't go to 12 of them, did you?


Posted by: 37thand0street | March 7, 2010 1:04 AM | Report abuse

This is what Nancy says:


"One is there is no federal funding for abortion. That is the law of the land. It is not changed in this bill. There is no change in the access to abortion. No more or no less: It is abortion neutral in terms of access or diminution of access. "

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OK if all that is true, why wasn't the Stupak compromise placed in the Senate bill ? BECAUSE THEY WANTED CHANGES.

This is the thing with the health care bill now : the normal negotiating process has been shortened - the House has to accept the Senate version.

That is not right - the imbalance is all over the bill - we are talking about 2000 pages here which are just being accepted wholesale - with little "fixes" here and there.

No one should believe that the abortion provisions have not changed from existing law - if that was true, then there would have been no problem placing the Stupak Amendment into the Senate bill.

The moderate democrats in the House DO NOT want this bill - they do not want to be subjected to the 30-second attack ads which will materialize this fall if the bill passess - they at least want the chance to VOTE AGAINST IT.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 7, 2010 1:00 AM | Report abuse

One thing about 37th writing style and topics, is that there is no need for him to read through the thread.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | March 7, 2010 12:25 AM | Report abuse

And now here's Mr. Meth, copying and pasting the same crap again.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 7, 2010 12:22 AM | Report abuse

Once Massa decided not to run for re-election, he was a prime candidate to become a yes vote from a no vote for Nancy Pelosi - this is exactly what Pelosi needs. However, she didn't get it.


Nancy is running out of options.


The abortion issue is preventing Nancy from getting the votes she needs. Stupak says he has 12 votes - last time around the Stupak block was 40 votes - so the truth is Stupak probably has about 30 votes in his block.


Obama overreached on abortion - that is clear at this point.


Obama overreached on the entire health care package. In any event, if Nancy is pushing a prime candidate for a yes vote out - that might mean that the House leadership is shifting to election mode and the push for votes is over. This could signal the end of the push.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 7, 2010 12:17 AM | Report abuse

The moderate House democrats are looking for a way to vote AGAINST health care - they want to be able to spin this phase of the health care debate in their favor - they want to be able to go to the voters and say - "I have heard you, and I voted AGAINST the plan."


Nancy, Harry and Obama have a real problem on their hands.


The Senate has to go first - there really is no way around it - the Senators who are saying the House has to go first are just trying to sink the plan.


There is no reason the Senate is going to pass a "fix" and take politically difficult votes after the House has already passed a bill.


The biggest thing the members of Congress want is this thing to go away - there is too much peril in these votes - there is nothing but a downside. With the near certainty that the health care bill will be de-funded and repealed next year, the reason to go forward diminishes.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 7, 2010 12:17 AM | Report abuse

What makes it so comical is that all these guys seem to think they're really smart. Smarter than people who can write their own posts, who are clearly better writers, who have knowledge at their fingertips instead of hastily googled.

Drivl/moonbat/etc. Is the most comical of the bunch, so derisive and ao clearly outmatched by everyone he outs down. Jake is about as bright as a cocker spaniel and actually thinks he can get away claiming a five star education and putting on sagacious and pedagogical airs. And they really believe it, in the face of so much evidence that we're smarter than they are, and not slightly either

Posted by: Noacoler | March 6, 2010 11:27 PM | Report abuse

@noa,

You've got the first half of the act down:

Jake runs out and posts the most offensive thing he can think of.

Right--4 refreshes.

More insults.

Response.

Jake runs to his throne, puts on his lil king hat, and entertains questions. Anyone else?

Return to beginning.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | March 6, 2010 10:50 PM | Report abuse

More like this, 12:

"Obama isn't a citizen" or "homosexuals should be executed" (Submit)

(that should outrage and offend!)

(refresh)

(refresh)

(refresh)

(refresh)

(what, no responses? Think of something uglier)

rinse lather repeat

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Posted by: Noacoler | March 6, 2010 10:32 PM | Report abuse

Another lonely night huh Ped?

Chuckees a bust?

Posted by: Moonbat | March 6, 2010 10:24 PM | Report abuse

If Jake is going to play God, then I want to know why we should all defer to him. Jake, you owe it to your potential subjects to post your curriculum vitae. Then, we might ask you questions.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | March 6, 2010 10:23 PM | Report abuse

12 bar

welcome to the stooges.

Posted by: Moonbat | March 6, 2010 10:21 PM | Report abuse

which is why we don't talk to him

Posted by: DDAWD | March 6, 2010 10:17 PM | Report abuse

@noa,

Here's the game that jake plays:

I have read many case books. You may approach the throne and ask questions. I will dispense wisdom. No questions? Anyone else?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | March 6, 2010 10:14 PM | Report abuse

Jake, if anyone is ever interested in discussing anything with you, (s)he he won't need your prompting to do you. You've done that "let me
know" thing close to a thousand times, never gotten a nibble. Do you REALLY not understand that nobody's interested in talking with you? Do you REALLY not understand why?

You're stupid, you're obnoxious, you're self-absorbed, you're ignorant, and you're a liar. That's five reasons you need to beg for conversation here.

Here, let me save you the trouble, you predictable cretin:

"Anyone else?"

Posted by: Noacoler | March 6, 2010 10:07 PM | Report abuse

F*cu Duke, F*ck Scheyer, F*ck Krzyewski, F*ck Singler, F*ck their ugly cheerleaders, F*ck Vitale and his f*cking glass eye!!!!

Posted by: DDAWD | March 6, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse

Brainy:

I've read plenty of case books in my day. If you don't have any questions for me, that's fine.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 6, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse

There may be one or two drive-bys; reason5 has some good days but I've seen him get carried away too.
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@noa,

I'd certainly like to read from a conservative who doesn't get carried away very often. There seem to be a high percentage of posters here who are either a) paranoid or b) intentionally inflammatory. No person who respects himself wants to be seen as inflammatory. And NO ONE but a fool pretends to be paranoid.

We all get carried away occasionally, at least I do, I'll admit. I'll forgive anyone who get carried away occasionally. None of us are perfect.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | March 6, 2010 9:50 PM | Report abuse

Hey jake even though I am not a lawyer I do not need to be told about basic consitutional principles. You or I are nto a judge. Look up caselaw and then tell me what is contitutional or not. Remember what I wrote ealier about Warren and Brennan. Read a book about the the Supreme Court or the law and then maybe you can school me instead of using talking points and simple ideas. Conservatives again are not the only ones with a claim to the Constitution. We all do. Also judical activist are also conservative, think of Scalia or Thomas as one. I do not think Alito or Roberts are, well maybe they are but they at least are not as predictable on most rulings.

Posted by: Brainny | March 6, 2010 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Uh, Margaret? No intelligent person believes that a supernatural bei g sneezed the universe into being during the time of Sumerian civilization either. Jake's not only a rotten bigot, he's dumb as a tadpole.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 6, 2010 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Brainy:

Let me know if you have any questions for me.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 6, 2010 9:33 PM | Report abuse

jaked is a dook fan

Posted by: DDAWD | March 6, 2010 9:29 PM | Report abuse

No conservative thinks that Obamacare is a federal right. Posted by: JakeD2


Jake, no intelligent person thinks being homosexual should automatically disqualify someone from public office.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | March 6, 2010 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Aren't there any genuine conservatives on this blog? I don't count conspiracy nuts as anything but nuts, and I don't care if they are on the right or the left.

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I'm not sure.  Even the ones who don't invent their own idiotic neologisms seem to have spasms over Obama and write lunatic conspiracy crap.  I don't call anyone who sees Socialism in mainstream center-right governance a conservative; when I think conservative I think the Barry Goldwater who said near his end that the government has no business snooping into people's sexual lives.  Conservative used to mean fiscal restraint and limited government; not ideas I always agreed or disagreed with but could respect.  Those who call themselves conservatives these days mostly have a loose screw or two and universally suffer from paranoia and emotional immaturity.

There may be one or two drive-bys; reason5 has some good days but I've seen him get carried away too.

The day-in-day-out conservatives here are all mental cases.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 6, 2010 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Gee, who to believe?

That Constitutional scholar and former editor of Harvard Law Review who went from unknown to US President in a few short years?

Or the racist blog bigot with the 2-digit IQ who lies all the time and needs to blame his typos on the "darn spellchecker" and trolls for attention from people who think he's a jerk?

Wow, tough call.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 6, 2010 8:45 PM | Report abuse

"@noa,

Aren't there any genuine conservatives on this blog? I don't count conspiracy nuts as anything but nuts, and I don't care if they are on the right or the left.

Posted by: 12BarBlues"

One of the reasons I actually prefer Democrats to Republicans is that Dems are a lot more fiscally responsible. Neither side is perfect, but Dems don't ratchet up the debt at nearly as fast of a pace as Republicans.

Obama is an exception, but anyone with half a mind understands that Obama's spending is in response to the recession. So much of it is from the bailouts and the stimulus. Neither of those things would have been done in a normal economy. It sucks, but I think debt is preferable to stagnation. But which party filibustered the deficit panel? It wasn't the Dems. Bush and the Republicans spent like madly while instituting irresponsible tax cuts. When people ask me why I vote Democrat, the first thing that pops into my head is fiscal responsibility. Anyone who actually pays attention knows this to be true.

Posted by: DDAWD | March 6, 2010 8:36 PM | Report abuse

Brainy:

No conservative thinks that Obamacare is a federal right.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 6, 2010 7:43 PM | Report abuse

They also did not need a chalk board or history lessons like Becj or Limbaugh do

Posted by: Brainny | March 6, 2010 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Also my four month old son has more ideas than Conservatives right now. When you rely on Palin and Beck for ideas you are in trouble. At least William Buckley and Irving Kristol had ideas, thinking minds and got their degrees in less than six years unlike Palin.

Posted by: Brainny | March 6, 2010 7:37 PM | Report abuse

Many of the rights you ejnoy today Jake were thanks to the Warren Court and William Brennan. Real due prcess, right to a lawyer, School Desegregation, right to privacy, real freedom of speech were Warren's legacies which many would like to keep.. One side does not own or have a claim on the Constitution or interpretation. All Americans have a claim to a heritage with the Constitution.

Posted by: Brainny | March 6, 2010 7:32 PM | Report abuse

A "genuine conservative" knows the difference between powers granted to a limited FEDERAL government (not including Obamacare) and powers reserved to the States / People.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 6, 2010 7:23 PM | Report abuse

@noa,

Aren't there any genuine conservatives on this blog? I don't count conspiracy nuts as anything but nuts, and I don't care if they are on the right or the left.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | March 6, 2010 6:57 PM
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And to think I wasted time responding to drivl. Drivl, if you don't believe this conspiracy, let us know, and I will apologize to you.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | March 6, 2010 7:08 PM | Report abuse

@noa,

Aren't there any genuine conservatives on this blog? I don't count conspiracy nuts as anything but nuts, and I don't care if they are on the right or the left.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | March 6, 2010 6:57 PM | Report abuse

@noa,

Is drivl actually saying that Obama is protecting Muslim terrorists because Obama is Muslim? We have another conspiracy nut here?

==

well he's in a mental hospital for a reason, you know

Posted by: Noacoler | March 6, 2010 6:34 PM | Report abuse

Republicans would rather have the issue than the solution.

Thank you, 12bar, for putting that so clearly. The Party of No is not interested in the welfare of this country, they are only concerned with getting back into power as quickly as possible. So they shout and point fingers instead of govern, and then they shout some more. We can see how they get their base stirred-up to do their dirty work here. Irresponsible threatening and bullying as loudly as possible is their only game.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | March 6, 2010 6:27 PM | Report abuse

@noa,

Is drivl actually saying that Obama is protecting Muslim terrorists because Obama is Muslim? We have another conspiracy nut here?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | March 6, 2010 6:19 PM | Report abuse

We have loony jihadists protected by Messiah because they are members of his Muslim Faith, even if they do want to kill an Army base full of Americans.

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nothing like the thousands Bush killed in two wars we didn't need to fight, Loony bin Boi.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 6, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone noticed that the net negative on the HCR has halved over the last few weeks. Gone from -17 to -8 (per Rasmussen that the conservatives trust so much).

Now, the latest Gallup poll shows that more Americans trust President Obama to reform healthcare than congressional Republicans by 17 points. They also trust Obama more than congressional Democrats by 12 points.

==

gee maybe 37th isn't posting enough

Posted by: Noacoler | March 6, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

37th+o is probably a dook fan...

GO HEELZ!! WOOOOOO DUCK FOOK!!!!

Posted by: DDAWD | March 6, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

@omaarsblade,

Republicans would rather have the issue than the solution.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | March 6, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Republican's Promises Never-Ever Fulfilled Or Brought To Vote.
____________________

Republican Senator Alexander Says "The GOP will Campaign On Repealing The Health Care Bill"

[Borderline-Bull-Spit]
____________________

Note:Republicans Campaign Every Election Cycle On Repealing [Something-Anything] Passed by the Democrats, though the Republican Senate-Congress Used Reconciliation [16 Times] Out Of 22 Times it was Ever Used..

But Note: Did The Republicans Ever Repeal the Following..

1. Medi-Care [No]

2. Social Security [No]

3. End The FED [No]

4. End The IRS [No]

5. Vote Ever On Implementing the Flat-Tax [No]

6. Did Bush and His 2001-2006 Majority Republican Senate-Congress Repeal Roe Vs. Wade [ Hell-No !!]

But Every Damn Year the GOP Pulls Their Dusty Treasure Chest, Clear the Moth Balls and Hits Republican AM-Hate Radio & Fox News Circuit Touting this Bull-Spit, they Know they'll Never-Ever Bring Up for a Vote, Moreover Pass, Yet these GOP Talk Meisters are Supposedly the Real Deal when it comes to Standing Up for their Fringe-Extreme Followers Wants and Desires. Knowing they'll Never-Ever Deliver On Such Promises.

Bush had a Majority Ruling Senate & Congress from 2001-2006 and they Never Voted for the Things they Proposed on the Campaign Stump.

[THINK]

Posted by: omaarsblade | March 6, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

More about the latest Gallup poll. This is a ranking (from high to low) who Americans trust to reform healthcare.

USA Today published the list, in order of preference. Doctors ranked highest at 77 percent, followed by hospitals (64 percent), university professors or researchers who study health care policy (61 percent), the president, Democrats and Republicans, then pharmaceutical companies (30 percent). Health insurance companies were last with 26 percent (Kiely, 3/5).

Same link as below.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | March 6, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone noticed that the net negative on the HCR has halved over the last few weeks. Gone from -17 to -8 (per Rasmussen that the conservatives trust so much).

Now, the latest Gallup poll shows that more Americans trust President Obama to reform healthcare than congressional Republicans by 17 points. They also trust Obama more than congressional Democrats by 12 points.

So much for Americans not wanting Obama's plan.

Here's the link: http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/Daily-Reports/2010/March/05/health-reform-poll.aspx

Posted by: 12BarBlues | March 6, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

@drivl,

We are all talking about actual criminals. You know the kind that pick up loaded guns and pull the trigger.

You respond to this by slipping into some kind of defense of the Tea Parties. Why do you have to defend the Tea Parties? Who was talking about the Tpers? Freudian slip on your part? Are you a little worried that one of those armed TPers might slip up and pull the trigger?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | March 6, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

We have psycho Obama lovers killing the entire faculty because the promise of a guaranteed job dried up with the liberal ineptitude.

We have loony jihadists protected by Messiah because they are members of his Muslim Faith, even if they do want to kill an Army base full of Americans.

We have isolated extremists (I mean terrorists) blowing up planes, Well actually everything worked as designed.

But dribbl rants and raves on about some fiction of a threat from actual Americans. these Vets and citizens are the enemy according to Obimbo et al. Yet the crimes are committed at leftiist events almost every time.

not one arrest at any tea party ever.

WE are out to get YOU dribbl. hide.

Posted by: drivl | March 6, 2010 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Blade, don't know how relevant this is but malis did an analysis of the rants of the original 37, the unhinged Hall of Famer that the fake 37 emulates. From January 2009, malis:
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"New Record: A Study on Motivation and Societal Impact of the Extremist-Obsessive Blog Poster

Subject: “37th” (shortname for subject using approximately 20 different variations of a userID containing the root phrase “37thandO”)

Previous and concurrent records: Subject’s postings to the thread “Best House Campaigns of 2008” were previously collected and classified in four defined categories, and posted to this thread Jan 4, 3:54pET. Subject is also posting to the thread “NY-Senate,” data currently under analysis.

This entry starts a new record for this thread: “Richardson Withdrawal.”

As of Jan 4 9:00pET, 37th owned 7 of 51 total entries, or 13%.

Number and percentage of on-topic postings: 2; 29%

The 7 postings contain the following specific statements, broken out by our four previously defined categories and one new category (“Manufactured Hyperbole”):

1) Simplistic insult of individuals and groups:
… “The democratic party is CORRUPT” (2)
The democrats are extremly corrupt”
The democrats are one FRAUD AFTER ANOTHER FRAUD” (2)
If you do not believe the democratic party is CORRUPT then you are living under a deception and you do not see the reality.”

2) Paranoiac accusations:
They have been making up stuff for months now”

3) Rote repetition of fantasy scenarios:
… “Illinois”
… “Rezko”
… “OBAMA WILL BE EXPOSED SOON ENOUGH.” (2)
… “Rezko THE LIBERAL MEDIA GAVE OBAMA A PASS ON THE CONVICTION OF … “OBAMA'S PAL REZKO - THIS IS CRAZY”
… “These scandals are all over in the democratic party - that is how they do business.”

4) Manufactured Hyperbole
… “Hillary's developers giving money”
… “If you don't see how bad the democratic party is, you have been deceived and you are living under a fantasy.”
… “Rezko THE LIBERAL MEDIA GAVE OBAMA A PASS ON THE CONVICTION OF OBAMA'S PAL REZKO - THIS IS CRAZY”
… “Illinois Blago - this is how the democratic party operates on a daily basis - you have only seen a bit.”
… “A high level New Jersey Democratic Assemblyman was arrested for CHILD PORN on his state computer - YOU DO NOT SEE THE DEMOCRATIC HYPOCRITES TALKING ABOUT THIS SCANDAL”
… “As if Blago did not mar this transition - come on be serious folks. Valerie Jarrett Valerie Jarrett Valerie Jarrett”
… “What happened to all the Post-raci@l pledges during the campaign? OUT THE WINDOW”
… “NOW the Latinos say they want a hispanic to fill this spot. Isn't that RAC-ST?”

5) Projection (accusing others of behavior exhibited by the subject):
[none to date]

Additional Observations to follow.


Posted by: malis | January 4, 2009 9:36 PM"

Posted by: broadwayjoe | March 6, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

@ drindl,

I'll predict that the FBI is going to get a lot more proactive in monitoring the blogs. I know they are doing this already, but they are still missing the guys who are more than just a mouth with a keyboard. I'll bet the feebs are going to be less forgiving of the "free speech" defense and will detain some of these lunatics for a while to quash this. I hope it helps to actually quash it.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | March 6, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

i expect this all to erupt into some serious mayhem in the run up to the elections.

Posted by: drindl | March 6, 2010 2:46 PM
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My theory is that people who are on the edge of being unhinged are attracted to conspiracy theories. They become obsessed with the theory, read everything they can, blog furiously, then feel the call to ACT. That is the phase when they start to fantasize about how they will act (guns, bombs, revolution, etc.) and finally when the act has been rehearsed enough times, they are ready for the actual act.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | March 6, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Dribbl escaped her cage.

Posted by: Moonbat | March 6, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

yeah, 12 Bar. he was raving all this anti-government conspiracy crap, you know, the kind we see on here all the time, and they could see he was dangerous -- they wanted him institutionalized. but he hadn't committed a crime yet -- so they didn't. just like so many other wingers out there, time bombs waiting to blow.

stay out of federal buildings, is my advice. i expect this all to erupt into some serious mayhem in the run up to the elections.

Posted by: drindl | March 6, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

We have paranoid shooters showing up at the Pentagon.

We have armed guys showing up at Starbucks.

We have college students shutting down freeways to protest soaring tuition and cutbacks to the schools.

Last night, a little boy got shot while he was bowling because some guys on another alley got into an argument.

I think we're going to see more of all this.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | March 6, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

'The alternate theory is that 37th is an insomniac on drugs. '

maybe a meth-head. that would explain the brain-deadedness and paranoia.

Posted by: drindl | March 6, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

@drindl,

Is this the same guy whose parents notified law enforcement that their son seem dangerous?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | March 6, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

and expect more of this, as the right grows increasingly deranged:

'Last night, a California man armed with two semiautomatic weapons and “many magazines” of ammunition opened fire on police officers at the entrance to the Pentagon, wounding two before being killed by police. The shooter, 36-year-old John Patrick Bedell, was “well dressed in a suit” and “very calm,” walking “very directly to the officers” before engaging them, a police spokesman said.

Bedell “appears to have been a right-wing extremist with virulent antigovernment feelings,” the Christian Science Monitor reports, who traveled from California specifically to attack the Pentagon. While police were hesitant to assign a motive, “writings by someone with his same name and birth date, posted on the Internet, express ill will toward the government and the armed forces and question whether Washington itself might have been behind the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.”

In one posting, Bedell ranted against “big government.”

Posted by: drindl | March 6, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

12 Bar -- there is a consensus that 37 is probably more than one person -- would almost have to be considering how often 'he's' on here -- literally 24 hours a day. We figure College Republicans at a frat house. That would explain a lot of the ignorance and infantile 'humor.'

The point is to flood the blog and not let anyone have a conversation. common tactic on the right.

Posted by: drindl | March 6, 2010 2:23 PM
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Call me clueless. I never saw 37th as more than one person. I haven't seen differences in writing style. Of course, one person could be writing the posts and others could be copying them to the blog 24/7.

The alternate theory is that 37th is an insomniac on drugs.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | March 6, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse

12 Bar -- there is a consensus that 37 is probably more than one person -- would almost have to be considering how often 'he's' on here -- literally 24 hours a day. We figure College Republicans at a frat house. That would explain a lot of the ignorance and infantile 'humor.'

The point is to flood the blog and not let anyone have a conversation. common tactic on the right.

Posted by: drindl | March 6, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

So, 37th,

BB thinks you are more than one guy. True?

How about broadway joe. Do you think he and his friends are trying to get you off this blog? And why do you think that? Do you get these ideas in the middle of the night during your 3 hours of sleep?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | March 6, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse

An interesting question is how many people are responsible for the 37th&O blog? This is effectively what the comments sections has become. I can't say as I believe one person would be posting from 8 a.m. to midnight every day of the week. [Started at 8:49 a.m. this morning, finished after 1 a.m. last night.] Perhaps young Republicans at Georgetown? It'd be interesting to see some analysis of the writing style.

Anyway, I couldn't resist dropping by to see what was happening during open mic time. Have a good weekend, all.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | March 6, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

12BarBlues


Obviously you are still hung-over from being at the bar last night - however I will try to explain it to you -

Obama did NOT have to try to make changes to the Federal abortion laws in the health care bill - but it keeps on coming up.

Despite all the statements that there are no changes, there are. They are on pages 2069-2078 of the Senate bill - I give you these pages numbers directly so you know CLEARLY THAT OBAMA IS LYING.


My point is that Obama would be much closer to having the votes in the House if the abortion issue never came up - that is the point.

Obama is driving the democratic party over a cliff in terms of public opinion - the election this November is going to be very difficult - not just for Federal office holders - but for democrats downticket all over the country.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 6, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Yea Obama really knows how to pick the popular issues - now he wants to legalize all the illegal aliens.

What is wrong with Obama ???

There is something wrong with this guy - something is going on that makes no sense.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 6, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Here's how 37th sounds:

Why didn't Obama put that COMMA into the HCR bill.

He'll pay BIG for that error and everyone knows it.

They should just admit it - they made a mistake. Now the bill is dead, and all because of that comma.

It's a LIE, if they had put that comma in there, then everyone would know what COMMA's really mean.

Just look it up - page 1007.

Why don't you guys get it? The Democrats are committing suicide and everyone knows it.
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Bwahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!! Is this a joke?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | March 6, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Back to the Ped and Sped show.

How mundane.

Posted by: Moonbat | March 6, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Why didn't Obama make sure that Stupak's abortion compromise was placed in the Senate bill ???

This one error is proving to be very difficult.


Obama overreached - just another reason to confirm that Obama has no idea what he is doing.

Obama and Nancy Pelosi do not have the votes in the House - there is so much opposition - AND the votes they do have, those people really don't want to vote for the bill either.

I have never ever seen a bill that so few people in the country or in Congress want - but it just keeps going - acting like a weight around the neck of the democratic party.

Obama is causes the democratic party to become a bunch of lemmings -

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 6, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Greenland? Greenland? Why pick on Greenland? I like Greenland.

I think what's-his-name Obama-hater-guy is the one who lies awake at night coming up with this stuff.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | March 6, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

And there's the vice-mental himself, understudy to the institutionalized one, awake again and settling in for another weekend if carpet-posting the same thing over and over and over. No job, no friends, no life, yet claiming to speak for all.

Hi, 37th, have a nice keyboard nap? Any plans for today? No? What a surprise.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 6, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Obamakrautzenburg's agenda is to take over 1/6 of the economy, kill the American dollar, usher in his Eurotrash replacement, and become the dictator of his New Wold Order.

He dreams of it, has nocturnal emissions about it, and is determined to push this bullchit bill on American CITIZENS who do not desire it.

Fix the problem with how the insurance co's rape us, insure those wombats who support this crap, and leave the rest of American alone who like their plans. He is a baldfaced liar when he says his socialist bill will not affect Americans who love their plans and doctors. See here:  

He, and all of his supporters should move to Greenland, and set up base there. There is where he can experience his vision of Utopia and enact his j.o. fantasies of ruling a mob of people. Because he sure as hell won't be able to set up his autocratic, despotic rule here in the United States of America.

..

NOW, before he's even finished with HCR, he's moving onto Immigration. Betcha he's going to attempt to pass a bill to allow the illegal aliens living here to become citizens (which would include his AUNTIE); and these illegals will be so happy that HE made them citizens, and got them healthcare that they will vote for him in2012 so he can finish off his planned destruction of American

He's been paid a lot of money by the elite (who controls the Fed Reserve) to accomplish this.

There must be a way to get rid of this de-facto POOTUS. His own people don't even want him: See here.

Posted by: obamaalmighT

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Wow this place sure attracts the mentals.  Anyone think any of these "conservatives" can hold down a job with their emotional pathologies?

Posted by: Noacoler | March 6, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Once Massa decided not to run for re-election, he was a prime candidate to become a yes vote from a no vote for Nancy Pelosi - this is exactly what Pelosi needs. However, she didn't get it.


Nancy is running out of options.


The abortion issue is preventing Nancy from getting the votes she needs. Stupak says he has 12 votes - last time around the Stupak block was 40 votes - so the truth is Stupak probably has about 30 votes in his block.

Obama overreached on abortion - that is clear at this point.


Obama overreached on the entire health care package. In any event, if Nancy is pushing a prime candidate for a yes vote out - that might mean that the House leadership is shifting to election mode and the push for votes is over. This could signal the end of the push.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 6, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

How fitting that Obama mentioned Thelma and Louise in his health care kick-off speech one year ago - seems like that is all health care has become - a way for Obama to drive the democratic party off a clif - in a Toyota no less.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 6, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

The moderate House democrats are looking for a way to vote AGAINST health care - they want to be able to spin this phase of the health care debate in their favor - they want to be able to go to the voters and say - "I have heard you, and I voted AGAINST the plan."


Nancy, Harry and Obama have a real problem on their hands.


The Senate has to go first - there really is no way around it - the Senators who are saying the House has to go first are just trying to sink the plan.

There is no reason the Senate is going to pass a "fix" and take politically difficult votes after the House has already passed a bill.


The biggest thing the members of Congress want is this thing to go away - there is too much peril in these votes - there is nothing but a downside. With the near certainty that the health care bill will be de-funded and repealed next year, the reason to go forward diminishes.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 6, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Brainny


Why is it when there is a democratic scandal, the democrats try to blame the Republicans in some way ????

When there is a Republican scandal, the democrats drag it out for weeks and weeks and weeks - no one ever hears the end of it.

There are far more democratic scandals than Republican scandals.

AND you don't even know what Massa said or did - does anyone ?? Massa seems to claim he doesn't even know what the charge is.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 6, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

CAFM wrote: I am simply saying that ANYONE who is susceptible to blackmail and corruption should NOT run for Congress or other high office, nor for that matter any elective office because, being human, they might do the wrong thing at some point.

and later, CAFM wrote:

Rather blackmail for "indiscretions" and outright terrible behavior while in office, such as "harrassing" young pages or staff members, and "wide stances" in public restrooms, etc.
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In hope that you are still reading this thread, I am responding to your prior posts. Thanks for your moderate tone, it's a rarity here.

Noacoler is right that people under 35 do not consider homosexuality a skeleton in the closet. People of a "certain" age tend to think that it is a shameful thing. So if someone comes out as gay, people with the older attitude assume his/her career is over. Not anymore.

Now, abusive behaviour while in office is not acceptible. It should not be worse if it is a gay person being abusive.

Abusive people may resign/may not resign, may be rejected at the ballot box/may be re-elected or may be drummed out by the ethics committee/or not. Lots of ways are available to handle these cases, just like abusive behaviour in business.

Your stance seems to be that being gay would exclude one from running for public office. Those days are over.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | March 6, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

It is now evident to all that some prior experience would be useful in the job of chief executive. If not, you can expect this kind of confusing anarchy, corruption and ineptitude.

Posted by: Moonbat | March 6, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse

"Eric Massa to resign from Congress"

Good, Republican Party needs new members and they will be glad to accept him. Although he might be less expirienced that his collegues who are crooked more than he is.

Posted by: BOBSTERII | March 6, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

"Eric Massa to resign from Congress"

He resigns to avoid ethics investigation. Why not continue with investigation? Crooks are crooks, I don't give a c.r.a.p what party they are coming from. If this was some republican, democrats would be crawling up his neck with hearings and all that honest stuff and stupid questions.

Posted by: BOBSTERII | March 6, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Blame it on Bush should be copyrighted and placed on billboards all over the country

Posted by: Brainny | March 6, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Also much of teh debt is on the government books from hwen the Grand Obsolete Party was in power. Also the Grand Obsolete Party Social Security, Mediciad and Medicare need reform. But this will nto happen. We saw what happens when the Grand Obsolete Party wanted to reform Social security, private accounts would do nothing. But the Grand Obsolete Party will not reach across the aisle unless they get all of what they want even though the were wiped out in the past two elections and have become the party of No, No, No.

Posted by: Brainny | March 6, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Massa is endemic of all of Washington, not just the Democratic party but also the Grand Obsolete Party also. Also what politician Democratic or Grand Obsolete Party does nto take free tickets, meals or trips and abusing their power. For people who only think its one party they need to clear wax from their ears or come bakc to earth. Politicians in reality thrive on access, favors and some level of power.

Posted by: Brainny | March 6, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Speaking of which, is anyone else reading Gormley's book on Clinton "Death of American Virtue"?

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 6, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Careful with the "BJ" references on this particular thread.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 6, 2010 10:25 AM | Report abuse

Baghdad BJ. Is huff and kos the be all and end all of your world? This is not a mirror site. Some people here are actually capable of intelligent and independent thought.

Posted by: Moonbat | March 6, 2010 10:20 AM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe:

Massa is what happens when you let Dems be Dems.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 6, 2010 10:18 AM | Report abuse

Ten trillion more in debt.

Barry found his niche.

Posted by: Moonbat | March 6, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Every email to MSNBC hosts should all have the following sentence:

"Who are you talking to?"

It's the same question you ask ranting vagrants in Manhattan who have a bigger audience than MSNBC.

Posted by: Washington13 | March 6, 2010 10:10 AM | Report abuse

The atmosphere at MSNBC just improved...
From HuffPo:

"CQPolitics.com's Craig Crawford will no longer be appearing on MSNBC, he wrote Friday.

Crawford, a paid contributor for the network, said that he informed MSNBC president Phil Griffin that he found appearing on the network "unrewarding."

"Phil, Just wanted to give you the heads up that my situation with MSNBC has become so unrewarding for me that I've decided to move on. -- Craig," was the text of the email Crawford said he sent Griffin three months before his contract expired.

In the comments section of his post, Crawford elaborated:

i simply could not any longer endure being a cartoon player for lefty games, just gotta move on to higher ground even if there's no oxygen
i have never and never will forgive Chris for calling me a racist after the West Virginia primary (the last time I will ever go on air with him). Probably should have resigned then and there, but better late than never.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/05/craig-crawford-leaving-ms_n_487571.html
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Don't recall much 'bout this guy other than his bizarre emotional defense of Don Imus after his racial slur about Rutgers Women's Basketball Team. I tuned him out after that.

LOL. Who believes MSNBC was going to renew his contract? Now if only the Faux News-imitator on MSNBC, Morning Joe, could go away. Oh well.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | March 6, 2010 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Obamakrautzenburg's agenda is to take over 1/6 of the economy, kill the American dollar, usher in his Eurotrash replacement, and become the dictator of his New Wold Order.


He dreams of it, has nocturnal emissions about it, and is determined to push this bullchit bill on American CITIZENS who do not desire it.


Fix the problem with how the insurance co's rape us, insure those wombats who support this crap, and leave the rest of American alone who like their plans. He is a baldfaced liar when he says his socialist bill will not affect Americans who love their plans and doctors. See here: http://nakedemperornews.com


He, and all of his supporters should move to Greenland, and set up base there. There is where he can experience his vision of Utopia and enact his j.o. fantasies of ruling a mob of people. Because he sure as hell won't be able to set up his autocratic, despotic rule here in the United States of America.


I find it reprehensible that he bought Matheson's vote by appointing Matheson's brother to a judicial position. Now isn't THAT some crap?? After he said during his State of the Union lying speech, that he KNOWS Americans are tired of deals that are made to pass the bill; yet he turns around and does it AGAIN!! What a crock of crap this lying crook is.


NOW, before he's even finished with HCR, he's moving onto Immigration. Betcha he's going to attempt to pass a bill to allow the illegal aliens living here to become citizens (which would include his AUNTIE); and these illegals will be so happy that HE made them citizens, and got them healthcare that they will vote for him in2012 so he can finish off his planned destruction of American


He's been paid a lot of money by the elite (who controls the Fed Reserve) to accomplish this.


There must be a way to get rid of this de-facto POOTUS. His own people don't even want him: See here.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5heoXBZvGlfKplST27X9OzvXO3bWwD9E8FTM82

Posted by: obamaalmighT | March 6, 2010 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Buh-bye! Take some of your Dem buddies with you! http://patrioticmobster.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/biting-the-dust.jpg

Posted by: PresidentSuit | March 6, 2010 9:54 AM | Report abuse

The moderate House democrats are looking for a way to vote AGAINST health care - they want to be able to spin this phase of the health care debate in their favor - they want to be able to go to the voters and say - "I have heard you, and I voted AGAINST the plan."

Nancy, Harry and Obama have a real problem on their hands.

The Senate has to go first - there really is no way around it - the Senators who are saying the House has to go first are just trying to sink the plan.


There is no reason the Senate is going to pass a "fix" and take politically difficult votes after the House has already passed a bill.

The biggest thing the members of Congress want is this thing to go away - there is too much peril in these votes - there is nothing but a downside. With the near certainty that the health care bill will be de-funded and repealed next year, the reason to go forward diminishes.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 6, 2010 9:23 AM | Report abuse

Once Massa decided not to run for re-election, he was a prime candidate to become a yes vote from a no vote for Nancy Pelosi - this is exactly what Pelosi needs. However, she didn't get it.


Nancy is running out of options.

The abortion issue is preventing Nancy from getting the votes she needs. Stupak says he has 12 votes - last time around the Stupak block was 40 votes - so the truth is Stupak probably has about 30 votes in his block.


Obama overreached on abortion - that is clear at this point.

Obama overreached on the entire health care package. In any event, if Nancy is pushing a prime candidate for a yes vote out - that might mean that the House leadership is shifting to election mode and the push for votes is over. This could signal the end of the push.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 6, 2010 8:49 AM | Report abuse

Ped will be here long into the night, trading moronic insults.


Posted by: drivl | March 5, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

some predictions are easy.

Posted by: Moonbat | March 6, 2010 8:46 AM | Report abuse

Ped will be here long into the night, trading moronic insults.


Posted by: drivl | March 5, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

some predictions are easy.

Posted by: Moonbat | March 6, 2010 8:45 AM | Report abuse

Will this be the end of Michael Steele?
Sure hope not. Democrats should start a protect Michael Steele campaign.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/05/AR2010030504995.html?hpid=moreheadlines

Republicans are scum...I hope no one wonders why they are fighting the health care bill, no wonder TEA people despise them as much as they do the Democrats.

"When he joined the RNC last year, Bickhart resigned as a registered lobbyist for several Philadelphia hospitals, who had paid him more than $300,000 since 2008."

Hospitals need Republican lobbyists too.
Those are your health care premiums, working for you in the always efficient free market.

Posted by: shrink2 | March 6, 2010 8:38 AM | Report abuse

So Obama's continuation of Bush's fiat currency inflationist policies is not JUST to destroy the economy so George Soros can continue to snap up failing banks at firesale prices, and to create a permanent drone class of unemployed or government employed sheeple who will vote for a Nanny state that burps and diapers them. It's really a way to make employees so vulnerable that they will have to put out for fugly freaks and pie cows like Schumer, Grayson, McCaskill, Frank, Waxman etc. The ugly circus show of the deformed and bloated Demwit Congressvermin.

Posted by: BruceMajor | March 6, 2010 8:28 AM | Report abuse

So why would an allegedly heterosexual man like happy li'l JakeD be so obsessed over what gay men do in bed? I mean, genuinely heterosexual guys are interested in women, right? They're aroused by sex with the opposite sex and couldn't care less about homosexuality, which has no hook to hang any fascination from. Make sense?

Yet here's Jake posting an urgent preoccupation with making sure everyone knows he's against homosexuals, concerned to the point of posting it over and over minutes apart. Anyone hear echoes of Larry Craig? I am not gay! I never have been gay! Believe me!

I bet Jake has a clandestine connection with male prostitutes, and I bet het likes black men. Right, Jake? Your own li'l secret? Do you likeniy when they call you names? "Order" you to service them orally? I know your type. We all do. Everyone gay knows about you closet shamelords.

Bullseye.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 6, 2010 3:28 AM | Report abuse

Every homosexual in Congress should resign effective immediately!
Posted by: JakeD2 | March 5, 2010 4:11 PM

If we got rid of all the homosexuals in Congress, that would be a start.
Posted by: JakeD2 | March 5, 2010 6:01 PM

If we got rid of all the homosexuals in Congress, that would be a start.
Posted by: JakeD2 | March 5, 2010 6:26 PM

I have no idea whether Rep. Massa (D-NY) is a homosexual or not. I am simply saying that ALL HOMOSEXUALS should resign effective immediately.
Posted by: JakeD2 | March 5, 2010 7:31 PM

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Obsessed much?

Posted by: Noacoler | March 6, 2010 3:01 AM | Report abuse

37th:


I know you don't have a job, not when you're here around the clock 7 days a week. But have you ever had one? Ever worked a day in your life? Ever known the dignity of paying your own way? I don't think so.


Then what gives you the idea you're in any position to speak for the American people about Obama, or anything else? You're alien, outside if life, a freeloader.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 6, 2010 1:41 AM | Report abuse

12BarBlues


Were you on a pubcrawl today ?

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 6, 2010 1:20 AM | Report abuse

CAFM writes:

I am grateful that Obama was elected to shock Americans into awareness and action.

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Instead of being bipartisan which is what Obama promised the American people over and over again over two years, Obama swung over to a far-left agenda which few expected before the election.

Obama is acting like he was trying to fool America the whole time.

So, what has Obama made America "aware" of ??? In fact, Obama was trying to fool the country, which is the opposite of awareness.

Instead of bringing action to the country, Obama's insistence on a far-left agenda has gridlocked Washington worse than ever - again completely the opposite from his campaign promises.


WAKE UP.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 6, 2010 1:16 AM | Report abuse

CAFM: I'm not pardoning indiscretions.

You on the other hand are moving the goalposts

Sanford is still in office and he's nuts. Ensign is a nutjob and philanderer; still in office. If Massa hit on a staffer, he's a disgrace. I guess it only applies to gay indiscretions, right?

Ever wonder why Santorum obsessed over weird sex and writes a book about being married? Hmmm I bet he has some surprising picture books between the mattresses.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 6, 2010 1:12 AM | Report abuse

The posts here from the gomers underscore why the GOP is heading unmourned into the long night. Nobody under 35 other than a few head cases with Issues gives a crap about homosexuality, and here are these rope-a-dopes talking matter if factly as though it's some grave immorality whose acceptance indicates decline and decadence.

Just like Jake, sitting on the train platform watching life pass them by.

Take your place among the fossils, losers.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 6, 2010 1:05 AM | Report abuse


Republican Senators Never-Ever Step Down No Matter Their Immorality Or Indiscretions Or the The Facts that They've been Caught [Red Handed]

1. Senator David Vitter: [Running For Re-Election]

2. John Ensign: An Affair with his Best Friends Wife and Pay Off by His [Ensign's Parents] Still In Office as Senator.

3. Mark Sanford: Governor Of SC Long Time Relationship with his Venezuelan Concubine, left his State, Wife and Four Sons for His Hot Tamale. He Still Holds the SC Governorship.

4. Larry Craig after being Caught Playing Footsies in a Men's Rest Room Stall [Homosexual Acts] Still Served his Full Term.

__________________

Democrats, have to Step Down

Elliott Spitzer

McGreevey

Massa

and

NY Governor Patterson have to Step Down.

Jeez Louise such Inconsistency

Posted by: omaarsblade | March 6, 2010 1:03 AM | Report abuse

Noacoler:

Please think before engaging in such a platitude.

No, not blackmail for BEING gay. Rather blackmail for "indiscretions" and outright terrible behavior while in office, such as "harrassing" young pages or staff members, and "wide stances" in public restrooms, etc.

It is NOT the condition of the person; it is the behavior of the person.

Posted by: CAFM | March 6, 2010 1:01 AM | Report abuse

Missive from a fossil bed.

Where do these pompous Neanderthals come from?

Moral compass = bring back lynching

Integrity = bigotry and intolerance

ethical philosophy = the nigras know their place

what a dope

Posted by: Noacoler | March 6, 2010 12:52 AM | Report abuse

All Massa had to do was go on tv - use some of this language in a 30 second attack ad aimed at Obama - and Massa would have won by 20 points.

This is discussion is ridiculous.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 6, 2010 12:48 AM | Report abuse

@ 12BarBlues

I am not saying whether a person should or should not be a queer/lesbian/bisecual etc.

That is completely their business.

I am simply saying that ANYONE who is susceptible to blackmail and corruption should NOT run for Congress or other high office, nor for that matter any elective office because, being human, they might do the wrong thing at some point.

Funny, but I happen to think it is easy to have scruples and integrity. Many people do. These are the people we should be sending to represent our Republic. And we should send many more plain, ordinary, everyday Americans instead of the shyster lawyers who represent most of Congress and our state legislatures.

There is even a move now to REQUIRE a college degree for a person to run for office, thereby ensuring that only elites could assume to power and places of influence forever.

A person's sex life should be a private matter, yet in politics as we have seen so often, it becomes quite public. Too much information IMHO, but not enough information when the stakes are high.

It is lack of a moral compass and a lack of integrity and ethical philosophy and respect for our Constitution that have delivered us to our present misfortune. It is also a lack of respect for history and lack of the people being vigilant for their liberty.

I am grateful that Obama was elected to shock Americans into awareness and action.

Posted by: CAFM | March 6, 2010 12:45 AM | Report abuse

@ 12BarBlues

I am not saying whether a person should or should not be a queer/lesbian/bisecual etc.

That is completely their business.

I am simply saying that ANYONE who is susceptible to blackmail and corruption should NOT run for Congress or other high office, nor for that matter any elective office because, being human, they might do the wrong thing at some point.

Funny, but I happen to think it is easy to have scruples and integrity. Many people do. These are the people we should be sending to represent our Republic. And we should send many more plain, ordinary, everyday Americans instead of the shyster lawyers who represent most of Congress and our state legislatures.

There is even a move now to REQUIRE a college degree for a person to run for office, thereby ensuring that only elites could assume to power and places of influence forever.

A person's sex life should be a private matter, yet in politics as we have seen so often, it becomes quite public. Too much information IMHO, but not enough information when the stakes are high.

It is lack of a moral compass and a lack of integrity and ethical philosophy and respect for our Constitution that have delivered us to our present misfortune. It is also a lack of respect for history and lack of the people being vigilant for their liberty.

I am grateful that Obama was elected to shock Americans into awareness and action.

Posted by: CAFM | March 6, 2010 12:44 AM | Report abuse

Blackmail?!? For being gay?!?

Have a nice nap, Mr. Van Winkle? There've been a few changes.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 6, 2010 12:42 AM | Report abuse

TheBabeNemo,

I have qualms with defining an issue by its radical position. It sets up a straw man for the opponent to justify themselves and their own radicals. Rather, we should focus on the reasoning of the arguments. I certainly hope our elected officials would consider reason, not fear of radicals, as they make law.

Posted by: cprferry | March 5, 2010 11:57 PM | Report abuse

CAFM:

The world has left people like you and me behind. You don't understand, you won't understand, and (I guess) no one does blackmail any more. Money grows on trees too.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 5, 2010 11:48 PM | Report abuse

Jake,

The world has left people like you behind. You don't understand, you won't understand, and you don't matter.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | March 5, 2010 11:39 PM | Report abuse

CAFM:

You'd think it would be "Pretty simple really" but not with this crowd.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 5, 2010 11:27 PM | Report abuse

The most important reason a Rep or Senator should NOT have skeletons in his/her closet is simply that it leaves him/her totally vulnerable to blackmail and corruption for their vote.
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Noble idea, except for implementation. I can hear it now--"Would everyone who has a skeleton in his/her closet, please raise your hand. We will now be handing out resignation slips, which we expect you to sign and turn in at the door on your way out." Right.

Most of us have skeletons in our closets. I've gone to a few parties and ***** and then ***** when we didn't think **** and then the cops *******. You know?

If skeletons were enough to disqualify us, none of us could run for office.

And, the larger point, is that being gay is not a shameful thing, or at least it should not be shameful. Those days should be behind us.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | March 5, 2010 11:22 PM | Report abuse

What kind of payoff do you suppose Rep Massa got from Obama and Pelosi for disappearing fast?

Posted by: valwayne | March 5, 2010 11:05 PM | Report abuse

"Why should gay congressmen have to resign? Squeamishness? Grow up. Homosexuality is part of normal human variation, as much as left-handedness, and its constancy across time and culture irrespective of acceptance proves that beyond doubt.

Some people are just bigots. It's the bigots like JakeD who are the perverts."

Posted by: Noacoler | March 5, 2010 8:26 PM

The most important reason a Rep or Senator should NOT have skeletons in his/her closet is simply that it leaves him/her totally vulnerable to blackmail and corruption for their vote.

In that the VOTE is the only valuable possession of a Rep or Senator, it can completely undermine and is completely undermining our Republic, our way of government.

Pretty simple really.

Posted by: CAFM | March 5, 2010 10:53 PM | Report abuse


It's gotten so tacky - whereby we have to investigate Governor Patterson for accepting two tickets to a NY Yankees game. They are world champs, in his state. And besides, you know a staff flunkie accepted them and passed them on to him.

Our Senators, as we speak, are taking perks from the health insurance companies that do NOT want HCR passed. BlueCross Blue Shield, Humana, United HC, Metlife, Prudential - all of them are throwing perks at the Senate left and right. Anything from trips to Paris, cruises off the Caribbean, DisneyWorld excursions.
Where are the investigations into that?

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | March 5, 2010 10:45 PM | Report abuse

Interesting that Democrats retire and repuglicans like repuglican Toe Tapper from Minnesota or Appalacian Trail Governor from South Carolina hang on....

Posted by: Geopolitics101 | March 5, 2010 10:38 PM | Report abuse

More of your hard earned or free lunch money at work:

Cablevision v ABC or whatever...

America, seriously, can you stop flinging your money at whatever "brand" makes you "feel good?"

Posted by: shrink2 | March 5, 2010 10:21 PM | Report abuse

Republican Senators Never-Ever Step Down No Matter Their Immorality Or Indiscretions Or the The Facts that They've been Caught [Red Handed]

1. Senator David Vitter: [Running For Re-Election]

2. John Ensign: An Affair with his Best Friends Wife and Pay Off by His [Ensign's Parents] Still In Office as Senator.

3. Mark Sanford: Governor Of SC Long Time Relationship with his Venezuelan Concubine, left his State, Wife and Four Sons for His Hot Tamale. He Still Holds the SC Governorship.

4. Larry Craig after being Caught Playing Footsies in a Men's Rest Room Stall [Homosexual Acts] Still Served his Full Term.

__________________

Democrats, have to Step Down

Elliott Spitzer

McGreevey

Massa

and

NY Governor Patterson have to Step Down.

Jeez Louise such Inconsistency

Posted by: omaarsblade | March 5, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse

I think yuner is trying to send us an important message from China.

Maybe if we fling money, we can feel associated with names that make us feel like we matter. It is almost like wearing a baseball cap that says "Pepsi", but a lot better - you have to pay a little more money to get a plastic bag that says Versace.

Posted by: shrink2 | March 5, 2010 9:52 PM | Report abuse

There are 229 comments on this thread and it seems 80% of them are about Massa being or not being gay, or about others being/not being gay, or whether gays should/should not resign, etc.

I can't even get interested in whether Massa is gay/not gay. I don't care whether Larry Craig is gay/not gay.

What the hell are we doing wasting all this energy about someone's gayness/not gayness? I, for one, don't get it.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | March 5, 2010 9:51 PM | Report abuse

cpr:

Actually, I agree with the idea that federal and/or public funding should not be used for abortion (except, perhaps, in medically extreme cases, etc.).

If little Molly gets pregnant at 15 and wants an abortion - go to baby daddy or your own mother and father for the money.

However, I do not agree with abolishing or overturning Roe vs Wade, which is the real motive of all repulsive conservatives within their arguments on this bill.
For 37 years, repuslive conservatives have tried to overturn Roe vs Wade.
Ain't gonna happen.
Know why?
It is called "choice".

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | March 5, 2010 9:46 PM | Report abuse

Did anyone actually believe Larry Craig's "wide stance" thing? I sure hope not.

The worst of all was NPAC founder Terry Dolan, raising millions for Republicans using vicious antigay rhetoric. Then he died of AIDS.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 5, 2010 9:46 PM | Report abuse

@lcarter: I wasn't excusing harassment. If he put the moves on staffers he's slime. But that has nothing to do with being gay. Gay just defines whom he wanted to get in the sack with. He could have lost some weight, gone to a gym and gotten sex partners the usual way.

Jake said that all gay congressmen should have to resign without having done anything wrong. Jake is a bigot, toward gays, minorities, and others. He's garbage.

I'm gay too. Ain't no thang. About 5-10% of Americans are gay. People who have a problem with that can go fluck themselves.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 5, 2010 9:40 PM | Report abuse

It seems as if we have turned into Macy's here.

BTW, is Massa gay? This "scandal" is about his poor choice of words and behavior to a staff flunkie (term of endearment), no?
I wonder if Massa resigned because he was being blackmailed. ((rolling)
Didn't he say that the investigation would be too much for him and his family...?
Could be.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | March 5, 2010 9:29 PM | Report abuse

"Can you imagine that this entire bill has taken a year and the argument that has stalled it, at every turn, is the "abortion funding" argument.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo"

It really reveals how out of touch with America the liberal Democrats are on abortion. These liberal Democrats attend Planned Parenthood functions, take Planned Parenthood money, hire former Planned Parenthood employees as wonks, consult with Planned Parenthood on policy, so on and so on.

On an issue that is very controversial, they're wrapping themselves in the cloak of the radicals of one side of the debate. Worse yet - they're writing program funding and exemptions for Planned Parenthood to profit ($) and kill more unborn children.

This is a controversial issue, but liberal Democrats act as if it's completely normal and are aligning themselves completely with one side. Perhaps in exchange for campaign contributions and political support, yes, but aligning themselves nonetheless that it's now difficult to say a key tenet of the party is "whatever Planned Parenthood and NARAL want."

Because note that the Senate abortion language marks a major shift from current policy. And current popular opinion. When it comes to the federal funding of abortion, it's one of the few topics in which you get over 75% of the populace agreeing. The public wants clearly stated, secure restrictions against the federal funding of abortions.

The Senate bill loosens those restrictions to allow the politically-appointed Secretary of HHS to decide whether elective abortion is necessary. Elective, necessary - note the terms' opposition to the other. Nonetheless, that's what PP and NARAL want, and that's what Pelosi, Reid and Obama are willing to give them.

Luckily we still have some Democrats out there that uphold the dignity of all human persons. It used to be that liberals sought human rights and civil rights victories through the greater understanding of our humanity. Now we have Marxists posing as liberals that seek to use conflict and strife to undermine one's humanity to claim power.

On a bill that aims to extend health care insurance to tens of millions (although millions will be left uninsured), it's a shame that liberal Democrats wish to use the opportunity to also rewrite existing federal restrictions to serve their own special interests.

Posted by: cprferry | March 5, 2010 9:27 PM | Report abuse

lets put congress in gitmo.

Posted by: sardony1 | March 5, 2010 9:24 PM | Report abuse

slimeballs and maggots. how did we get so lucky?

Posted by: Jaymand | March 5, 2010 9:04 PM | Report abuse

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Thank you, it is my pleasure to be here.

Posted by: maggots | March 5, 2010 9:14 PM | Report abuse

Now, blackmailing someone so they vote a certain way is called lobbying.

Exactly what the big insurance companies are currently doing on HCR in the Senate.
I will give you a cruise if you vote no on the President's bill. Or a car, take your pick.
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You seem to be saying: (for i.e.)....
"I will not tell the world about Chandra Levy if you do vote this way". OR "I will not rat you out about your argentinian mistress if you vote that way". OR "I will not tell the world you are gay if you vote this way."

This already happens.

The question still stands: Why can't we elect gay men and women to Congress?

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | March 5, 2010 9:09 PM | Report abuse

He was likely forced out by Pelosi and House leadership, not because the scandal but the HCR vote.

The vote count needs to be only 216 now. She still needs to hold onto Stupak and the 11 other adamant pro-life Democrats, but now she doesn't have to flip two original 'no' votes. Just one, which will be Kucinich.

Her job is no less harder, but the compromises she and other liberal Democrats need to make become a bit more narrow.

Posted by: cprferry | March 5, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

slimeballs and maggots. how did we get so lucky?

Posted by: Jaymand | March 5, 2010 9:04 PM | Report abuse

The guy knows he did something very, very wrong. This is not innocent foul language. This sounds like criminal charges.

"It's not that I can fight or beat these allegations, I'm guilty." Massa said in a separate statement, to to his Washington and campaign staff, which was reported by his hometown newspaper, the Corning (N.Y.) Leader.

He said in the message to his staff, "It's my fault and I can't blame anyone but myself," adding, "I can't subject my family and staff to a full investigation. It would tear us apart

Posted by: Cornell1984 | March 5, 2010 8:54 PM | Report abuse

"Here's your problem, Democrats were aghast that Mark Foley seemed to be moving in on their territory ~ young House Page Bodies.

So, you ratted him out. He elected to not run for office.

Just to make sure you ratted out your funny little friend, Senator Craig, who you undoubtedly knew from the Minneapolis airport toilets eh! (Bwahahahaha)"
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An this, of course, had nothing to do with both being FLAMING Hypocrites??

They BOTH proclaimed at the top of their voices about how anyone who was homosexual must be the most terrible of people.

Another example of "Protesting too much" being a sure sign of latent (or not so latent) homosexuality.

Really, if these people do their jobs..., without being flaming hypocrites, attacking others of their own kind, who CARES?

Maybe this guy stepped over the line with his behavior. Maybe the staffer had a grudge and he wanted to save himself and his family the grief... He quit. Fitting exit, no hypocrisy and minimum pain for other involved.

Posted by: JohnInMI | March 5, 2010 8:50 PM | Report abuse

I didn't say "so they don't run". I said that someone in the past 15 months could have found out about Rep. Massa and blackmailed him into voting a certain way.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 5, 2010 8:48 PM | Report abuse

Blackmailing someone who is gay so they don't run is not the point in my question.
It probably wouldn't work anyway.
The gay person running would probably come out and declare it. As in "I am gay and I am running for office in District 14".

What's so wrong with said gay person running?
Maybe that is the better question.

Constitution doesn't say "if you are gay, you cannot run for office".

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | March 5, 2010 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Just a matter of time... these politicians will weed themselves out. What are these people thinking about...surely not their jobs.... Amazing that the quest for power so often ends because they cant keep it in their pants....Good riddens.

Posted by: BobbyYarush | March 5, 2010 8:42 PM | Report abuse


"Another blanket dragging jewtard bites the dust. yay!

Posted by: Rubiconski | March 5, 2010 8:20 PM"
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Ah... The Tea-baggers representative speaks.

Swastika much?

Posted by: JohnInMI | March 5, 2010 8:40 PM | Report abuse

Noacoler ~ about moving to Saudi, you might tell that to Nancy Pelosi ~ she's the top dog in the House so she's behind Massa's resignation.

We know you're not going to do that though.

Here's your problem, Democrats were aghast that Mark Foley seemed to be moving in on their territory ~ young House Page Bodies.

So, you ratted him out. He elected to not run for office.

Just to make sure you ratted out your funny little friend, Senator Craig, who you undoubtedly knew from the Minneapolis airport toilets eh! (Bwahahahaha)

Now it's your turn to move on. First Massa, then Frank?

Come on now guys, doesn't Barney rate a removal?

Remember, Republicans weren't trying to beat up on these guys for being gay ~ that was Democrats ~ YOUR Democrats ~ Guys and gals you know intimately.

Here's your big chance to show equinamity ~ YOU CAN DO IT!

Posted by: muawiyah | March 5, 2010 8:37 PM | Report abuse

potomacfever00:

exactly!

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 5, 2010 8:36 PM | Report abuse

JakeD2 certainly seems awfully uncomfortable about homosexuals.

"Me thinks thou dost protest too much"

A little latent Jake?

Posted by: JohnInMI | March 5, 2010 8:36 PM | Report abuse

Why should gay congressmen have to resign? Squeamishness? Grow up. Homosexuality is part of normal human variation, as much as left-handedness, and its constancy across time and culture irrespective of acceptance proves that beyond doubt.

Some people are just bigots. It's the bigots like JakeD who are the perverts.

Posted by: Noacoler |

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Did you not read Massa's response to all of this.

It sounds like he was sexually harassing his male staffer(s). I am sure using profanity at his male staffers wouldn't have prompted him to step down so quickly, unless of course, his words contained a lot of sexual language, otherwise, why the sudden resignation.

Bottom line is it is against the law and the Ethics Rules to harass people, male or female and a Congressional Legislator should know better.

Posted by: lcarter0311 | March 5, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Well, if you're going to completely discount any possible threat of blackmailing public officials, I doubt I will be able to convince you otherwise.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 5, 2010 8:31 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: nikejordans1 | March 5, 2010 8:27 PM | Report abuse

i'm sure we'll learn more about this creep's proclivities as time goes by.

in the meantime, bye bye!

Posted by: potomacfever00 | March 5, 2010 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Why should gay congressmen have to resign? Squeamishness? Grow up. Homosexuality is part of normal human variation, as much as left-handedness, and its constancy across time and culture irrespective of acceptance proves that beyond doubt.

Some people are just bigots. It's the bigots like JakeD who are the perverts.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 5, 2010 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Another blanket dragging jewtard bites the dust. yay!

Posted by: Rubiconski | March 5, 2010 8:20 PM | Report abuse

no blackmail....

The question stands: why can't we have (or elect) gay women and men in the Senate and the House?

What is so scary about it?

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | March 5, 2010 8:14 PM | Report abuse

The truth is: over the past few years there have been far more anti-gay, sexist and RACIST statements made by the DEMOCRATS than anyone else.

Just see how the democrats talk about the other scandals.

The way the democrats talk about Sarah Palen is SEXIST.

The way the democrats give Rev. Wright, Obama, and Harry Reid a pass on racist remarks and actions - that is RACIST.

Time for the democrats to come clean.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 5, 2010 8:05 PM | Report abuse

OMG!!! Rep. Frank (D-MA) is a BI-SEXUAL too?!

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 5, 2010 8:04 PM | Report abuse


Whats with these qweer politicians?... Are they all gay???

Posted by: demtse

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No they're not gay, they are bi-sexual. There is a difference you know, so I have heard.

Posted by: lcarter0311 | March 5, 2010 8:01 PM | Report abuse

"Free speech" as to what?

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 5, 2010 8:01 PM | Report abuse

Sure. Hasn't this a-word ever heard of free speech..??

Posted by: orogero | March 5, 2010 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Pelosi and Hoyer gave up a vote in telling Massa to resign - since he was retiring, they could have convinced him to vote for health care.

This is an important signal.


Someone get Obama Obama Obama on the phone phone phone and tell tell tell him.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 5, 2010 7:59 PM | Report abuse

With the daily resignations: Massa today and Rangel yesterday, this is gonna be a huge takeover by the GOP!

Posted by: houston123
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Oh, please?

Any day now, the Republican staffer's will begin to start speaking out and also men trying to use the restroom's at airports across the country.

Posted by: lcarter0311 | March 5, 2010 7:59 PM | Report abuse

TheBabeNemo:

Apart from everything else, if you can't see the very real threat of blackmail in your 7:41 PM post, I certainly won't be able to convince you otherwise.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 5, 2010 7:54 PM | Report abuse

Whats with these qweer politicians?... Are they all gay???

Posted by: demtse | March 5, 2010 7:53 PM | Report abuse

If Pelosi and Hoyer are pushing Massa out - it MUST mean that his vote on health care is not that important - surely a sign that they are throwing in the towel on the health care bill.

Does Obama know?

It is just going to be too difficult to get the abortion issue taken care of. Stupak say he has 12 votes - it is probably closer to 20 or 30.


The common theme is Obama keeps on overreaching - it has done him in time and time again.

Anyway, talk in the democratic party about "the damage is already done" and "we can't get out of this" - it is a horrible atmosphere - the House democrats have to try to save themselves now - Obama is not going to try to save them - Obama wants them to go over the cliff. In fact, Obama wants the House democrats to get in the Toyota - Obama is going to place a brick on the accelerator and get out - and send the car over the political cliff.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 5, 2010 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Whats with these qweer politicians... Are they all gay???

Posted by: demtse | March 5, 2010 7:51 PM | Report abuse

think they are goin' to "troll young legislative liaison dormitories" like Foley did?

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | March 5, 2010 7:41 PM
______________
Please tell me that you haven't forgotten about Rep. Gerry "Raping Child Interns" Studds (D, MA).....

Posted by: WildBill1 | March 5, 2010 7:48 PM | Report abuse

luridone


I gave you the article READ IT - AND LAY OFF THE SNIPPY COMMENTS.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 5, 2010 7:46 PM | Report abuse

houston123:

Unfortunately, Rep. Rangel (D-NY) did not "resign" his seat, but only took a leave of absense from the Ways and Means Committee. The allegations against him are not of a homosexual nature.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 5, 2010 7:46 PM | Report abuse

wagtdn:

LOL!!!

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 5, 2010 7:43 PM | Report abuse

With the daily resignations: Massa today and Rangel yesterday, this is gonna be a huge takeover by the GOP!

Posted by: houston123 | March 5, 2010 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Wonder what kind of stories any attractive male on Barney Frank's staff could tell?

Posted by: wagtdn | March 5, 2010 7:42 PM | Report abuse

How fitting that Obama mentioned Thelma and Louise in his health care kick-off speech one year ago - seems like that is all health care has become - a way for Obama to drive the democratic party off a clif - in a Toyota no less.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 5, 2010 7:41 PM | Report abuse


what's wrong with gay men and women being elected to the House and the Senate?

uh?

think they are goin' to "troll young legislative liaison dormitories" like Foley did?

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | March 5, 2010 7:41 PM | Report abuse

Sen. John McCain (Ariz.) carried the seat with 51 percent in 2008 and George W. Bush won it by 14 points in 2008.
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More great journalism by Chris "Why Bother Checking Facts" Chillizza. Not to be confused with his twin, Chris "Can't Proof Read For Crap" Childlizard.

Posted by: WildBill1 | March 5, 2010 7:39 PM | Report abuse

(((rolling))

for sure....and Mary Jo Kopeckne didn't have a chance to comment.

And Clinton had a comment of
"i did not have sexual relations with that woman"

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | March 5, 2010 7:38 PM | Report abuse

I have noticed that about the JakeD3 stalker.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 5, 2010 7:37 PM | Report abuse

Jake will say absolutely anything to get some attention, the more offensive the better.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 5, 2010 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Please note that I only want said homosexual Congressmen or women to resign (or be voted out), not be executed.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 5, 2010 7:33 PM | Report abuse


It only takes one voter knowing something.
It only takes a slight rumor.
And it only takes one reporter to find something.

In politics, it is a wildfire.

It happened with John McCain here in Arizona. Keating 5.

And Cindy McCain's pain killer addiction.
Cindy's "story" started making the rounds of our Capital and then she "came out" with her addiction---making it public, thereby "saving" John.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | March 5, 2010 7:32 PM | Report abuse

jestindam:

I have no idea whether Rep. Massa (D-NY) is a homosexual or not. I am simply saying that ALL HOMOSEXUALS should resign effective immediately.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 5, 2010 7:31 PM | Report abuse

America needs to take note of China.  
 
When Chinese businessmen cut corners on food processing and got people sick and dead, they didn’t just jawbone about “free markets” and “the profit incentive” and “shareholder value, they executed them.
 
The bankers and insurance executives who make decisions that let treatable people die and ruin lives thousands at a time should be executed too.  That’s clean up our “incentives” nice and quick.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 5, 2010 7:27 PM | Report abuse

porcelainproductions:

He said THAT?!

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 5, 2010 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Lets use some common sense rather than hyporbolic partisanship. The representative admits he used inappropriate language, the media before knowing any facts assumed it was sexual and blew it out of proportion. I know the blowhards on the right will ask if it wasn't sexual harrasment why did he resign. Would you want your family harassed by the howling pack of wolves that is the media, would you want the rabid win at all cost republican politicans using your family as a punching bag to gain power. The biggest problem both right and left is politicans only caring about getting re-elected to their jobs or moving up rather than doing what they professed, REPRESENTING THE PEOPLE. The voters dont get off either, they all bi#t*ch & moan but constantly vote to send their own reps back, why, they bring back pork, something everybody decries as long as it doesn't include them. THE SELFISHNESS AND GREED IN OUR COUNTRY IS WHY WE WILL NEVER GET ANYTHING DONE FOR THE COMMON GOOD. People stake out their ground and refuse to compromise, their representatives see this and vote accordingly. We are in deep do-do and americans steeped in a me first next and last philosophy selfishly unwilling to help their neighbors cant see past their next aggrandizment.

Posted by: jestindam | March 5, 2010 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Senator Ted Kennedy (D, KillYourPregnantMistressByDrivingIntoTheRiver, MA) had no comment.

Posted by: WildBill1 | March 5, 2010 7:26 PM | Report abuse


de·vi·ant   

–adjective

1. deviating or departing from the norm; characterized by deviation.

Most Americans are not homosexuals, and the "norm" is certainly heterosexuality. If anyone else has a question about that, please let me know.
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Most Americans also don't have blue eyes. And, come to think of it, most don't post comments on Web sites. Yay! I'm a double-deviant, at the very least.

Posted by: gato2 | March 5, 2010 7:25 PM | Report abuse

37th

To say you're exaggerating is to be kind. To say you're lying would be more accurate.

Posted by: luridone | March 5, 2010 7:23 PM | Report abuse

Alas, politicians are not perfect, alas they are all HUMAN, black or white, male or female, gay or straight, and neither party has a monopoly on scandals. However,
human frailty does not hold a candle to
deliberate, hateful, greedy , deceitful
scumbag behavior that ACTUALLY AFFECTS ALL AMERICAN CITIZENS. Repukes hold the FOREVER record of crushing the the greatest nation in the world under their
odorous, slimy, lying, stinking feet.

Posted by: patriotgmalou | March 5, 2010 7:22 PM | Report abuse

You Democrats are REALLY creepy. All conservatives wanted to do was let business do business so people would actually, you know have a JOB? We wanted to defend our country? And just look.

Posted by: JamesChristian | March 5, 2010 6:53 PM
_________________________
Would that be the same conservatives who let business run the economy into the ground and create the greatest economic crisis since the Great Depression (another economic meltdown brought about by DE-regulation of financial markets)? And the same conservatives who started a war with a country that had not attacked us and posed no imminent threat to us? Thought so.

Go back to your bizzaro universe and let sane people try to fix the damage you conservatives have done.

Posted by: luridone | March 5, 2010 7:18 PM | Report abuse

luridone


I don't have to make anything up - we have the Obama administration making unbelievable mistakes

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation-and-world/la-na-immigration5-2010mar05,0,1123497.story


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 5, 2010 7:17 PM | Report abuse

He said Republicans are as Gay as I, but they deny it, until they are arrested leaving clubs, in Airport stalls or in the church.

Posted by: porcelainproductions | March 5, 2010 7:17 PM | Report abuse

JamesCurrin:

He denied being a homosexual.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 5, 2010 7:16 PM | Report abuse

For the record, my "WOO HOO!!!" of February 8, 2010 3:24 PM was related to a special election that will probably be won by a Republican -- like our gracious host, I have captivated by the game of politics, regardless of which side wins -- as I said, before, I have never cheer[ed] at anyone's death (in fact, that death was at the hands of a GOVERNMENT doctor, how sad).

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 5, 2010 7:15 PM | Report abuse

NOW Obama wants to legalize all the illegal aliens.

WAY TO PICK POPULAR ISSUES !!!

What's next? Releasing Terrorists ? Oh, Obama is doing that already.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 5, 2010 5:31 PM
__________________________
Do you make this up all on your own, or is it Rush's marching orders?

Posted by: luridone | March 5, 2010 7:13 PM | Report abuse

I know that Rep. Massa's remarks must have been shocking to the conscience of humanity, but is it too much to ask that the Post tell exactly what he said?

Posted by: JamesCurrin | March 5, 2010 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Tupac_Goldstein:

It's usually some nonsense about Democrats are not hypocrites because they don't campaign on family values (well, except for John Edwards -- did anyone else hear that he's going to be indicted on federal charges re: campaign finance shinanigans?).

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 5, 2010 7:10 PM | Report abuse

WOO HOO!!!

Posted by: JakeD2 | February 8, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/house/john-murtha-dies-special-elect.html
 
Too easy.
 
Don’t you ever stop lying, you subhuman piece of garbage?

Posted by: Noacoler | March 5, 2010 7:09 PM | Report abuse

Pardon me, Sen. Larry Craig (R-ID) did not resign (he should have immediately).

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 5, 2010 7:07 PM | Report abuse

But, but, but he's a DEMOCRAT! Democrats always tell us it is only those nasty Republicans who are deceitful. What will Rachel and Keith say?????


This is Bush's fault!

Posted by: Tupac_Goldstein | March 5, 2010 7:07 PM | Report abuse

Duh -- does it occur to any of you gay bashers that homosexuality crosses party lines? What planet do you live on?

Posted by: seaduck2001 | March 5, 2010 7:07 PM | Report abuse

palmtree2001:

Foley and Craig RESIGNED (please see my posts on the issue below).

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 5, 2010 7:04 PM | Report abuse

You Leftie-Smellies are DETERMINED to ruin my country. Now keep resigning, ok? You're inept, incompetent, and entirely too wuss to have the reins. There are not enough ways and words to describe how awful Democrats are these days.
 
==
 
Wow I bet your family is just so pleased to have you over for Christmas dinner.
 
Is Drudge linking here again?  That’s usually the explanation when sickies of this caliber show up.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 5, 2010 7:04 PM | Report abuse


upside...

drowns out latest Reid foot-in-mouth outburst...

Someone needs to sit Reid down and sternly tell him he needs to avoid all opportunities to make unscripted remarks...

we don't need him channeling Janet Napolitano "the system worked"

Harry there is nothing good about the unemployment numbers, nothing...

Less bad is not the equivalent of a "good thing"...

no wonder healthcare legislation has been a year long nightmare...

Posted by: teoc2 | March 5, 2010 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Ohhhhhhh - where should I begin . . . .

Vitter?
Craig?
Sanford?
Foley?
Ensign?

. . . and THEN . . . we have the torturers . . .

Cheney?
Yoo?
Delahunty?
Addington?

Posted by: palmtree2001 | March 5, 2010 7:01 PM | Report abuse

For the record, I do not think that left-handed, light haired, color-blind (hetersexual) Congressmen and women need resign immediately, nor have I ever cheer[ed] at other people's death.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 5, 2010 7:01 PM | Report abuse

TheBabeNemo:

I doubt that many voters from Massa's district knew that he was a homosexual.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 5, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse

Also fitting Jake's blood-clot-in-cerebrum definition: left-handedness, light hair, color-blindness.

You are a complete moron, Jake, in addition to being a despicable bigot and a vile subhuman creep who cheers at other people's death.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 5, 2010 6:57 PM | Report abuse

We elect "the people" from our state to serve in Wash DC. Congressional House Reps and Senators.
(i.e John McCain here in bum frick egypt)

The people of any particular state --
go to the polls and cast their votes --(like this mid-term election coming up).

So it would be logical to conclude that the people of any particular state ---
should do their homework.

After all, "you" are electing the crooks, no?
"you" are sending them to Wash DC", no?

They don't just arrive there magically.

And therefore, ridding Wash DC of "the crooks and liars, etc" would begin with your own state, your own district.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | March 5, 2010 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Typical retarded, corrupt, smellie Democrat. Pelosi was going to drain the swamp, but under her's, Murtha's and Reid's leadership it's overflowing as never before and Murtha has been DEAD for a month.

You Democrats are REALLY creepy. All conservatives wanted to do was let business do business so people would actually, you know have a JOB? We wanted to defend our country? And just look.

A year into Islam-Obama's administration and three years into Democrat-Smelly majorities on the Hill, the country has surrendered to our enemies, nearly 100 million have been thrown out of work and/or fixed it so they can't get jobs. You smelly-Left have taken on deficits the WORLD has never deamt of, let alone the U.S., and STILL smellie Democrats, having already ruined the economy and our position in the world want to go on with Socialist health care, and illegal immigrant amnesty.

You Leftie-Smellies are DETERMINED to ruin my country. Now keep resigning, ok? You're inept, incompetent, and entirely too wuss to have the reins. There are not enough ways and words to describe how awful Democrats are these days.

We're going to throw all of you out this year, but hopefully you won't get the chance to finish us off before we Conservatives get back power and straighten things out. Obama, Pelosi, and Reid are train-wreck-style disasters. Obama and Pelosi and Reid are far worse than Carter and HIS miserable Capitol Hill. You peeps are truly the worst in history.

Posted by: JamesChristian | March 5, 2010 6:53 PM | Report abuse

de·vi·ant   

–adjective

1. deviating or departing from the norm; characterized by deviation.

Most Americans are not homosexuals, and the "norm" is certainly heterosexuality. If anyone else has a question about that, please let me know.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 5, 2010 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Good riddance. One less pervert in Congress.
Of ocurse there's still bendover Barney, one of the major causes of the housing finance crisis.
What a contemptible piece of crap.

Posted by: LarryG62 | March 5, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Anyone who thinks homosexuality is deviant behavior should move back to Saudi Arabia. This is America and 2010, not 3rd century BC Middle East.

Enjoying getting pissed on is deviant behavior. See Hiter, Adolph, the model for the contemporary GOP.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 5, 2010 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Hey, dottydo!!! Welcome back : )

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 5, 2010 6:41 PM | Report abuse

If the rumors are true, then 4 more are planning to announce Bye Bye next week.

Obama is eating his power grid, by demanding Unconstitutional votes.

Those quitting have at least that, in their defense.

Posted by: dottydo | March 5, 2010 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone else pre-ordered Karl Rove's "Courage and Consequences"?

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0310/33980.html

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 5, 2010 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Where there's smoke, there's fire.

Posted by: waterfrontproperty | March 5, 2010 6:29 PM | Report abuse

SwellLevel5:

Ever since Sodom and Gomorrah (before the U.S. was even founded)!

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 5, 2010 6:28 PM | Report abuse

If I read correctly between the lines of Rep. Massa's statement, a full investigation might provide at least a year of juicy revelation a day entertainment. Is there some way he can be prevented from quitting? I'm bored.

Posted by: douglaslbarber | March 5, 2010 6:27 PM | Report abuse

shrink2:

If we got rid of all the homosexuals in Congress, that would be a start.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 5, 2010 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Since when is being an openly gay congressman reason to resign?

Posted by: SwellLevel5 | March 5, 2010 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Massa's in the cold ,cold ground.

Sung by Bill Cosby,Oprah and the Boss himmself .Obama.

Shine tbose shoes.

Posted by: hyroller56 | March 5, 2010 6:25 PM | Report abuse

raschumacher:

Which conservative Republicans are defending political correctness?!

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 5, 2010 6:25 PM | Report abuse

While Republicans, just like The Terrorists, are praying for God or Obama or the Democrat Agenda to smite (smote, smoke, whatever) America, the rest of the world is betting on us.

Republicans, betting against the American economy is a bad idea.

Sure if there were an election today an anti-Obama candidate might win. But the great thing about how they designed our elections over 200 years ago is that they seem to be timed properly.

These parliamentary governments that fall on every other scandal, I guess it is good for people who sell big sheets of glass.

Posted by: shrink2 | March 5, 2010 6:23 PM | Report abuse

An unfortunate incident, but at least it has inspired conservative Republicans to value and defend political correctness. We'll turn those boys into liberal Democrats yet :_>

Posted by: raschumacher | March 5, 2010 6:21 PM | Report abuse

How fitting that Obama mentioned Thelma and Louise in his health care kick-off speech one year ago - seems like that is all health care has become - a way for Obama to drive the democratic party off a clif - in a Toyota no less.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 5, 2010 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Another one of our lawmakers having trouble managing his libido? How many does that make? I've lost count.

Posted by: snowy2 | March 5, 2010 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Wow! It must be even worse than we thought. I wonder what else is going on in Speaker Pelosi's corrupt Bawdy House?

Posted by: valwayne | March 5, 2010 6:16 PM | Report abuse

maybe it was grabbing him by the back of the nect - pushing his head into your naked lap and saying "suck this boy" that caused him to believe you made an improper comment.

Posted by: infantry11b4faus | March 5, 2010 6:15 PM | Report abuse

Good!!!!!

Posted by: tonyjm | March 5, 2010 6:14 PM | Report abuse

TO:
Angry.
Villagers.
With.
Flaming.
Torches.
And.
Pitchforks. ~ Tagney Taggert

Read also what Ayn Rand said about THE MORALITY OF DEATH in "Atlas Shrugged" and you will understand what the folks who consulted the formation of Homeland Security just did to our country.
They terminated us and our economy. They booby-trapped our nation to create personal wealth and status AND to stay out of jail.
A native Oklahoman, Colombian cartel associate and international coacaine smuggler, US Army trainer, and career diplomat convicted for treason for lieing to Congress by the US Gov in 1991, and the same "Uncle Ed" I sued for sexual harassment, was a founder of Homeland Security after the Murrah bombing. A felon. Does that bother anyone? His identical twin Burt, taught Civics? to Timothy McVeigh in Perry High School, where Ed's mother lived until her death.
Read about Rand's philosophy on The Morality of Death.

Posted by: ParentCitizenFemale | March 5, 2010 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Good!!!!!

Posted by: tonyjm | March 5, 2010 6:13 PM | Report abuse

The crooks go marching one by one, hurrah, hurrah
The crooks go marching one by one, hurrah, hurrah

Posted by: houston123 | March 5, 2010 6:13 PM | Report abuse

I am reading the new Gormley book on Bill Clinton's affairs (I would not have a problem getting rid of all heterosexual adulterers too, but that's not going to happen). Remember that Montana Sen. Max Baucus (D) had an affair with his former state director and had recommended her for a vacant U.S. Attorney's job.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 5, 2010 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Massa resigns and "the rats are leaving one by one, hurrah hurrah!"

Posted by: houston123 | March 5, 2010 6:09 PM | Report abuse


As long as Pelosi justifies her trips with receipts, etc. It's called a travel expense report..

Nancy Reagan didn't have to justify anything-by the mere fact that no one questioned her. Power of the White House.

I haven't heard anything on Pelosi squandering tax payer monies for her travel. Is something being investigated?
Do tell.

I know that within 2 weeks of Clinton taking office, he was condemned heavily for taking a $250 haircut on board Air Force One.
Probably the cost of one "astrological reading" that Nancy relied on so much.
Did you know that Ronnie, if he was going to do a speech - Nancy would consult -first- with her astrologer to see if it was the proper "time" to do the speech.
Same with trips.
The world on hold because of the stars.

Hey, I wonder if Nancy can predict the next earthquake...
or the vote on the HCR bill???

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | March 5, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Rat scurry to leave a sinking ship!

Posted by: MrBoggle | March 5, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse

shrink2:

If we got rid of all the homosexuals in Congress, that would be a start.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 5, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse

"For all those pointing out past republican scandals -- you are right, and the voters spoke! Now that it is democrats abusing their power, the voters will speak again!"

The tragedy is there is no escape from this cycle of personal and political corruption.

An imaginative, honest, hard working, pragmatic, experienced political aspirant simply could not survive today's meat grinder (Ron Wyden may be an exception that proves the rule).

Now of courseits true this imaginative, honest, hard working, pragmatic, experienced political aspirant would have had a hard time in any era (politicians used to openly transact the spoils system, now they have to put money in freezers), but the whole idea is we are supposed to be getting better.

Posted by: shrink2 | March 5, 2010 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Empress Nancy now has to find one more switch vote to pass the Senate HCR bill. Obama is probably ruing his arrogant treatment of Gov. Patterson.

DRIP, DRIP, DRIP

The WH's clumsy attempt to buy Matheson's vote backfired. Unless he recuses himself or votes no, he can be prosecuted for a felony. Even if Holder and Obama protect him, he is at risk for seven years. Obama can't give him a pardon unless he confesses the crime which creates an impeachable offense and a felony for Obama.

Rod Blagojevich and James Traficant would have better prospects for holding office again.

DRIP, DRIP, DRIP

The Democrats ability to pass Health Care Reform by any means is on life support and they can't stop the bleeding.

DRIP, DRIP, DRIP

Rep. Stupak and his followers won't back down and the abortion language can't be fixed in a reconciliation bill.

DRIP, DRI..........................

Posted by: Xdem | March 5, 2010 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Well, that's a good start ~ as the "Culture of Corruption" continues to ooze up in the Democrat party it's best that their least tainted ones LEAVE FIRST.

The Massa problem "ain't no thang" as far as the Democrats are concerned ~ really.

Ask Rahm "f'n retards" Emanuel ~ one of their smarter ones.

Posted by: muawiyah | March 5, 2010 5:54 PM | Report abuse

drivl:

I hope that "broadwayjoe" gets to see that one ; )

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 5, 2010 5:52 PM | Report abuse

Massa is a predator. He isn't resigning over a comment. He is agreeing that the public will be told it is over "comments".

Massa was crossing into the world of a young adult who is preparing for a career. In politics. If the man had sued he would have been finished for good, if not murdered. ( That happened to itern Chandra Levy.) That is the invisible law on sexual harassment. I filed a sexual harassment suit against a professor (and distant blood relative) in 1992 at O.U. and was never able to obtain employment after, in any field. I had committed no wrong and simply sought a protective legal remedy. The case was taken off the federal court docket after lawyers secretly agreed on how to handle it (made a deal among them selves) and recommended it to the judge. They destroyed my career because it inconvenienced their inferior vision for our value system as a culture. Sex harassment in public schools and hedonism in the workplace went through the roof after the state digested this strong legal signal.

Massa switched genders on his wife here, didn't he? He was lining a young man up for his rape because he thought he had the power to act out fantasies of perversion. He was abusing power, just like "Uncle Ed", my professor.
We don't have a nation much longer because of this filth that has wormed its way into government. SEND EVERY ONE OF THEM HOME and Pass a Law to revoke their protected retirement fund if they don't know how to behave. Do not protect them. They are monsters. Scum that harms everyone. Put them in the jails with the common criminals they are.
God only knows what germs have been inserted into Mrs. Massa.

Posted by: ParentCitizenFemale | March 5, 2010 5:52 PM | Report abuse


Democrat Culture of Corruption. I can't imagine how anyone could vote for these creeps.

Posted by: L1ncon | March 5, 2010 5:51 PM | Report abuse

1 down...253 to go. Are you listening, Mark Foley?

Also-

"TheBabeNemo" seemed to take issue with Nancy Reagan's use of taxpayer $ as it pertained to airplane travel. I wonder if she's investigated current history as it pertains to the travel habits of Nancy "SWAMP THING" Pelosi. Or did I miss her point? Either way, not sure what her statement had to do with the article.

Posted by: ddnfla | March 5, 2010 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Good another career politician bites the dust. Murtha is dead. 536 to go and we will have replaced them all.!

Posted by: astro2009 | March 5, 2010 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Angry.
Villagers.
With.
Flaming.
Torches.
And.
Pitchforks.

Posted by: DagnyTaggart | March 5, 2010 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Wow! I glad Nancy has 'cleaned the swamp' (snicker, snicker).....Massa, Jefferson, Rangel, Delahunt, Patterson, and on and on

To borrow from the unbiased mainstream media: Democraps = Party of Corruption

Posted by: hartwr1 | March 5, 2010 5:44 PM | Report abuse

It is as easy as letting Dems be Dems.

no other stimulus needed.

Posted by: drivl | March 5, 2010 5:43 PM | Report abuse


Culture of Corruption.

Posted by: L1ncon | March 5, 2010 5:43 PM | Report abuse

1 down... 223 to go!

At this rate we won't need the elections this year to regain control, they are taking care of that themselves... HA!


I always see the pot as being half full!

Posted by: TexanbygraceofGOD | March 5, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

For all those pointing out past republican scandals -- you are right, and the voters spoke! Now that it is democrats abusing their power, the voters will speak again!

The reason that republicans were voted out are the now the reasons democrats will not be reelected.

Foley lost 6-8 seats for the republicans. Massa will do at least that much to the democrat. With Delahunt's part in Amy Bishop cronyism/murder spree, I suspect several New England blue districts will go red as well.

Posted by: Cornell1984 | March 5, 2010 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Obama's reason for getting elected:

all those bad things Bush and Repubs do.

Obama's excuse for all the bad things Dems do:

Bush did it too

Posted by: drivl | March 5, 2010 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Judging from the bitterness of his statement and his focus on the use of incorrect language, my sense is that he simply called a staff member "queer" or something like that, which would constitute harrassment. His statement that he knows he did something wrong and is responsible for it, to me drips with angry sarcasm. This guy seems to be saying "the turds are pushing me out for salty language, and boy am I pissed. I could do this in the Navy and nothing would happen."

I don't sense that he put the heat on some male staffer, but he's sure exiting quickly.

Posted by: Afraid4USA | March 5, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Margaret


First you make a sexist remark


then you actually say you want to silence someone.

You prove everyone's points about you.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 5, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

I would like to give you the benefit of the doubt, margaret, but I'm having a hard time getting past the fact that in your entire list of ".....had not comment" posts, you didn't mention a single Democrat.

Sounds to me like someone with a political agenda, not someone who is just trying to point out "men behaving badly" in general.

Nice try though. You have yourself a good weekend. Political differences aside, hope you never encounter someone like any of these men in your own life.

Posted by: etpietro | March 5, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse


Mark Sanford - what piece of work.
He uses the state's plane to fly to and from Argentina for his mistress.

Almost as bad as Nancy Reagan using OUR taxpaying dollars for:
1. hair dresser
2. personal assistant.
3. interior designer
4. astrologer

to fly in Air Force One...everytime SHE went somewhere (non-official AND official business).
hmmm....4 passengers we paid for, for 8 years.
Ethical?

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | March 5, 2010 5:35 PM | Report abuse

It has been some time since we heard one good thing about any Democrats.


Perhaps they shouild go back to hiding behind a Bush. When they are in the open, nothing good comes of it.

Posted by: drivl | March 5, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

NOW Obama wants to legalize all the illegal aliens.

WAY TO PICK POPULAR ISSUES !!!

What's next? Releasing Terrorists ? Oh, Obama is doing that already.

.

Posted by: 37thand0street | March 5, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

How very embarrassing our government has become. Tax cheats on the dole, bribery and arm twisting to pass legislation, secret back room conferences to write bills, sexual scandals, sexual harassment in the workplace, excessive personal expenditures at taxpayer expense, theatrics and props used for manipulation.

As if those offensives weren't distasteful enough, we have a leader so engrossed in an agenda in the narcisstic hope of shaping a legacy for himself, he will not heed the wishes of public majority. Sickening, all of it!

Posted by: inmanorj | March 5, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

etpietro, I am not playing a "your guy's are worse game." I am pointing out that men sometimes think with the wrong organ, no matter what party they belong to.

This blog was getting choked with homophobic shouters and the usual blog-cloggers who spend all day squatting under this bridge. One of them complains long and often about people trying to silence him (if only). I get my say, too.

Now, back to your circle jerk, boys. Sorry I broke your rhythm.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | March 5, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

"It's possible for a man to sexually harass another man without being gay oneself. For example, accusing someone of being or acting "gay" would be harassment. Posted by: Wallenstein"

Your whole thesis is gay.

Posted by: ruralamericans | March 5, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse


Jefferson (Louisiana) had no comment as he was emptying out his refrigeration.

Back in Chicago, during the Paul Simon days (way back) - it was shoe boxes.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | March 5, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Hey margaret what exactly is your point? I get that you're calling out certain Republicans with ethical transgressions in the past, but so what? Is that a defense of Rep. Massa? There are GOP bad apples so what he did is okay? Or is this supposed to be some sort of intimidation? e.g "The GOP has had bad characters so you have to shut up."

How about admitting your guy was apparently doing something serious enough that he has to resign. And recognize that this must be pretty bad, when Pelosi was willing to go to the mat on Rangel and others who were truly corrupt and caught dead to rights.

The GOP had enough integrity to ditch Trent Lott when he was out of line, worked to force out Larry Craig, Bob Packwood and others - which is not something that you can say about the Dems. The unindicted co-conspirator from ABSCAM, Mr. Murtha demonstrated that by becoming the No. 3 in the party as a recent example.

How about all bad politicians no matter which party should be kicked out? Can we agree to that, or do you want to continue your ridiculous and pathetic defense of "nanny-nanny boo boo, your side is bad too."

Posted by: publius88 | March 5, 2010 5:25 PM | Report abuse

auntpittypat


I would think something a little different - since Massa was not running for re-election, the democrats could try to swing him over to a yes vote.

The democrats just gave up a vote.

WHY would they do that? They could have said he will resign in a month or two. This may be a signal that the health care vote is over - the vote is so tight, there is no reason they would give up a potential vote.


Nancy could be quitting the health care vote.

It is just to hard to get the Senate bill "fixed" through reconciliation. Almost all the political momentum for the democrats in the House is to let the thing die, and just try to pick up the pieces later.


Hoyer probably thinks its dead too.

One has to think this through - the national polls do NOT tell the tale - the tale is told in the competitive House districts - are the democrats IN THOSE DISTRICTS better off if health care gets passed or not - the answer is NO.

The best chance for a moderate democrat to be re-elected is to vote NO and then tell the voters that they stood up to Obama.

Is Stupak worried about being re-elected?

I don't think so.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 5, 2010 5:25 PM | Report abuse

auntpittypat


I would think something a little different - since Massa was not running for re-election, the democrats could try to swing him over to a yes vote.

The democrats just gave up a vote.

WHY would they do that? They could have said he will resign in a month or two. This may be a signal that the health care vote is over - the vote is so tight, there is no reason they would give up a potential vote.


Nancy could be quitting the health care vote.

It is just to hard to get the Senate bill "fixed" through reconciliation. Almost all the political momentum for the democrats in the House is to let the thing die, and just try to pick up the pieces later.


Hoyer probably thinks its dead too.

One has to think this through - the national polls do NOT tell the tale - the tale is told in the competitive House districts - are the democrats IN THOSE DISTRICTS better off if health care gets passed or not - the answer is NO.

The best chance for a moderate democrat to be re-elected is to vote NO and then tell the voters that they stood up to Obama.

Is Stupak worried about being re-elected?

I don't think so.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 5, 2010 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Congressman Don Sherwood (R, Roughemup, PA) had no comment.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | March 5, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

John Edwards had no comment.....

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | March 5, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Congressman Dan Burton (R, Paternitytest, IN) had no comment.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | March 5, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

37thand0street:

Don't worry about her (she can't even tell the difference between adultery -- bad, I admit it -- and deviant sexual behavior).

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 5, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Wow, margaretmeyers. You've trotted out Foley, Craig and Sanford. How very, very clever. You know who else had no comment, genius?

Sexual harasser, intern violator, and -- almost certainly earlier in his life -- rapist William Jefferson Clinton, as well as vice presidential candidate and love daddy John Edwards. And Client #9. And Client #9's replacement. And Jim McGreevey. And so on. And so on. And so on.

Please, stop playing the "your guys are worse game." It is stupid. There area equal amounts of sleazeballs on both sides of the aisle.

We shouldn't elect any of them, and when we do elect one of them and find out about this type of behavior after the fact, they need to go. Period. Regardless of party. End of story.

Posted by: etpietro | March 5, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Congressman Dan Crane (R, Sheshowold, IL) had no comment.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | March 5, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Rev. Ted Haggard said, "In the end, I fully support Rep. Massa." He was quickly echoed by Mark Sanford, Jim Gibbons, David Vitter, John Ensign, Mark Foley, Bob Allen Larry Craig and Glen Murphy. And they all started to pray.

Posted by: fudador | March 5, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

TheBabeNemo:

Is Alan Keyes a "racist" for suing Obama on that issue?

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 5, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Congressman Henry Hyde (R, Bangingyourwife, IL) had no comment.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | March 5, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Politico is reporting:


But several House aides told POLITICO that the House ethics committee has been informed of allegations that the New York Democrat, who is married with two children, made unwanted advances toward a junior male staffer.

Local Corning Newspaper is reporting Massa was known for harassing young navy officers while serving.

Apparently, House leadership knew about this for MONTHS and covered it up.

Posted by: Cornell1984 | March 5, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

"Holy YAHWEH/ALLAH/Jebus this is a stupid country."

Speak for yourself, blasphemer.

Posted by: mattintx | March 5, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Congressman John Peterson (R,Gimmeahug, PA) had no comment.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | March 5, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Margaret


You have to make this a partisan thing - you just can't admit that your own party has its own scandals.

HYPOCRITE

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 5, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Notice how all the progressives from the White House bunker keep typing messages so that the true message will be lost.

Massa is being driven out because he was a blue dog who voted AGAINST HCR.

POTUS and the powers that be will do anything to anyone right now to get this monstrous healthcare bill passed.

Then they will turn around and say -- too bad, don't have the votes for reconciliation you silly Congress folk.

Posted by: auntpittypat | March 5, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R, Anotherannulment, NY) had no comment.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | March 5, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

ethics violations must be caused by global warming.

Posted by: drivl | March 5, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Senator Bob Packwood (R, Haveadrink,OR) had no comment.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | March 5, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Isn't it funny how really stupid liberals all "think" alike. I am pretty convinced they all go to some website to get their "thoughts" for the day. the only rule is that it must be really simple and really stupid, otherwise, it would not seem genuine.

Posted by: drivl | March 5, 2010 5:06 PM
_______________________________
What's REALLY funny is that conservatives are too stupid to even recognize the irony and their own hypocrisy. And the Republicans are the party of Family Values? What a hoot!!!

Posted by: luridone | March 5, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

37 - no I am not sensitive about.
Jake is. Obvious by his constant posts on it.
I don't want to hear about it on WaPO--on the columns that are written --that have nothing to do with that topic. Follow?
It's old. And proves he a racist.
Good old boys across the nation are so mad that President Obama is a brother. They can taste it. So they take the opportunity of "freedom of speech" on the Net to voice it.

Well, only if the column on WAPO addresses it for comment.

And on your other entry....
why would any of the law abiding House reps want Massa to hang around for "the vote". The man broke ethics code. There are ethics codes in Washington DC-- being broken by most of those men and women WE SEND to Washington DC. The stories are getting more numerous than anytime in history. Almost like the daily earthquakes we are now having on the earth. (today's was Sumatra)

Possible ethics violation takes priority over a vote. If the investigation doesn't take all day. Good thing he is resigning. Save us money on the ethics investigation, which BTW, most of our taxpayers' dollars are going for these days.

Massa and all the others that get involved (because of power and greed) with sexual disasters (gay or not, underage, cheating on wives)----should have taken the NY Yankees baseball tickets instead.
It's cleaner and could be forgiven 10 times easier.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | March 5, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

When you hear the name massa,people always think of slavery,Jim Crow laws,Bill Cosby and Obama.Obama being the biggest political shill of all time.

The amerikan oligarchy is alive and well...thanks to him .

Yeesirr boss,I know my place boss.

Posted by: hyroller56 | March 5, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Larry Craig, Mark Foley, John Ensign and Mark Sanford all had no comment. All are hoping their past trysts with Rep. Massa do not become public.

Posted by: fudador | March 5, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Congressman Jim Gibbons (R, Up-against-the-wall, Nevada) had no comment.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | March 5, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

I don't believe he is gay. I believe he made fun of or ridiculed some person or persons on his staff who is/are gay. Under the law, that would be "sexual harrassment" because you are harrassing an employee due to his/her sexual orientation.

It's all PC crap, folks.

This is the Chicago Way! We find dirty things that will be embarrassing to you and promise you that if you do not go home now, we will open an investigation and find people to testify against you who will say whatever we want.

He knows he probably called someone a homo or worse at some point so he can't truly defend himself. His political career would probably be over and he is fighting cancer. Why should he put his family through that?

This is all Obama/Pelosi/Progressive/Chicago BS. They dug up dirt to get rid of Patterson. Look at all the others who are retiring/resigning.

Obama said to Progressives last night that his presidency was in jeopardy if they did not vote for HCR. He is desparate. He will DO ANYTHING.

Posted by: auntpittypat | March 5, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse


Typical (gay) Democrat.....

Posted by: WildBill1
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From the party of Mark Foley. Hysterical.

Posted by: luridone | March 5, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Holy YAHWEH/ALLAH/Jebus this is a stupid country. If the founders knew we'd wind up so ****** in the head they'd gladly have bent the knee to King George. I know I would. Idiots in charge of idiots. As it is said, "You just can't fix stupid" and stupid is what we got. Weak minded, ignorant, unconscious idiots. I want OUT!

Posted by: Karmachoirboy | March 5, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Congress looses another closet rump ranger. Big deal.

Posted by: brattykathyi1 | March 5, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Congressman Mark Foley, (R, Littlelad, Florida) had no comment.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | March 5, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Sen. Larry Craig, R (3rd stall from the end, Minn-St. Paul Int'l Airport) had no comment.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | March 5, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Rev. Ted Haggard, R-Homos and Cokeheads, told Rep. Massa he could become straight if he tried really really hard.

Posted by: koolkat_1960


John Ensign, Republican (Shagging Your Wife, Nevada) had no comment.

Posted by: margaretmeyers


Isn't it funny how really stupid liberals all "think" alike. I am pretty convinced they all go to some website to get their "thoughts" for the day. the only rule is that it must be really simple and really stupid, otherwise, it would not seem genuine.

Posted by: drivl | March 5, 2010 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Gov. Mark Sanford (Hiking-the-AP, South Carolina) had no comment.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | March 5, 2010 5:06 PM | Report abuse

But isn't the Wash Post owned by Disney? Wouldn't they proudly say that Massa came out of the closet.

Posted by: cobrajohn | March 5, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse


Massa = homosexual sexual predator Dim abusing his office for sexual favors

Posted by: screwjob11 | March 5, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

State Senator Roy Ashburn, R (Lemmedriveuhomebigboy, CA) had no comment.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | March 5, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Miglefitz and 37th and0streets-

You guys and myself, of course, are the only ones on this liberal rag that wants to investigate the truth in D.C. What happened to the Post. They lose all their integrity. Yep!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: cobrajohn | March 5, 2010 5:02 PM | Report abuse

This is really going to interfere with Barry's ongoing search for a new home church.

all the distractions. all the confusion. Work on jobs.....no wait, make that health care, no, I changed my mind. close gitmo. now. Well on second thought...pick a dog, wait I already did that. I know, get Joe to do it. cap and trade, Olympics, apologize, win the war, no, war is bad.

to think that his bowling and pitching might be his greatest skill in retrospect.

Posted by: drivl | March 5, 2010 5:02 PM | Report abuse

This is the first case of what I believe is driving someone out because they berated someone else for being gay. It's that "hate crimes" PC thing.

This has all been orchestrated by Obama/Pelosi/Progressives because Massa was a NO vote on the health "reform" bill in the House and was probably trending toward NO again.

Is this America? Are we now going to get rid of some elected officials because they say something that is not PC while we let others, like Rangel, stay on?

It's not right.

Posted by: auntpittypat | March 5, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Senator David Vitters, R (Diapers 'n' Hooker, Louisianna), had no comment.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | March 5, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Hello.. "IS THIS THE COCK S-CKR RESIDENCE?!"

.... maybe he saw Serial Mom too many times..

Posted by: redsky28 | March 5, 2010 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Gee whiz it must be Friday afternoon.......

This story will be purged/censored from our corrupt liberal/progressive MSM wolfpack press by Monday morning....

Somethings never do change do they?.....so predictable, the pack........

Posted by: allenridge | March 5, 2010 4:59 PM | Report abuse

John Ensign, Republican (Shagging Your Wife, Nevada) had no comment.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | March 5, 2010 4:58 PM | Report abuse

This must be really bad for Massa, to step down so fast and for the Washington Post to want to cover it up so quickly! What really happened?
This must be more of an embaressment than we believe it to be. Sexual harassment seems to be the going truth, but we need an investigation. We want an investigation! He wants to keep the family out of it. And move on to bigger and better boys...er...I mean things

Posted by: cobrajohn | March 5, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Pelosi has previously stated that the House cannot pass the Senate bill (as handed back).

Can you imagine that this entire bill has taken a year and the argument that has stalled it, at every turn, is the "abortion funding" argument.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | March 5, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

miglefitz


WOW YOU ARE REALLY ON TO SOMETHING.


If Pelosi and Hoyer pushed Massa to leave now, instead of a month from now, they are giving up a vote on health care.


So WHY would they do that???

It makes no sense. EXCEPT if they have already made the leap to election mode - and decided that the public perception of the House democrats for November IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE HEALTH CARE VOTE.

This could be a signal that Pelosi, Hoyer and the House democrats are throwing in the towel on the health care vote.

Could it be over?


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 5, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

TheBabeNemo


You are a little too sensitive about the birth certificate issue - WHAT do you know?

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 5, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

oh great.......

Posted by: Aziz2 | March 5, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

IMHO....I am skeptical of this seat even being filled now because of the November elections. They may just hold off filling this seat until then.

This time of year is the time for primaries for elections in the fall.

If they have a race, my feeling is they will eithger have a rematch if its close in november, or if one side loses badly the party will pick a replacement.


Posted by: djp98374 | March 5, 2010 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Propositions... you have to word them so carefully.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | March 5, 2010 4:49 PM | Report abuse

(rolling) - I forgot about Rangel!!!!
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miglefitz: I believe Massa voted for the original House bill. Most all of them did. The "historic passing" that we had. I could get on THOMAS.gov and search the Congressional Record.

But reconciliation is on the horizon so dems should say yes across the board (in the House).

Don't ya just love reconciliation?

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | March 5, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Hey Chris Cillizza of the corrupt liberal/progressive Washington POST

.....How does that "Republican Brand" look right about now.....side by side with the "Democrat Brand"


....Chris Cillizza when can we expect a "poor Democrat Brand" from the resident liberal/progressives hold-up at the POST?

Posted by: allenridge | March 5, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Mark Thiessen writes in the Post:

Once the Senate bill is approved, the president and Democratic Congressional leaders have little incentive to pass a reconciliation bill. Think about it: Does Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid really care if Senate Republicans stop the House from amending the Senate’s already approved health care bill? He probably hopes they succeed. And if the reconciliation deal is killed in the Senate, Pelosi who would be able to tell Stupak that his complaint is not with her, but with the Senate Republicans. She would send the Senate bill to the president and he would sign it into law.

The bottom line: Stupak and the blue dog Democrats in the House have no leverage if they go along with Pelosi in a reconciliation strategy. The only way they can ensure that the abortion language and other provisions they oppose are eliminated is to reject reconciliation entirely -- and demand that the House and Senate start over with clean legislation.

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So how can a deal be made??? It appears that Pelosi's hands are tied.

The Senate HAS to act first - there is no way around it.


If Nancy and Harry Reid are actually negotiating the "fixes" then somehow they have to figure out how to get them through the Senate FIRST.

This thing looks like it is going to fall apart.

The political weight of another "yes" vote for the moderate democrats is just too great - and there are just so many democrats who want to start acting like "all is lost." Their attitude should be - if "all is lost" then Obama can be the one to leave Washington, not the moderate democrats.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 5, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Rev. Ted Haggard, R-Homos and Cokeheads, told Rep. Massa he could become straight if he tried really really hard.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | March 5, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Rep. Paul Broun (R-Ga.) said Thursday that he does not know if President Barack Obama is either a citizen or a Christian. Broun made the claim during an interview with Sirius XM host Pete Dominick, which was first flagged by the liberal blog Think Progress.

not the only one.

Hey isn't TP a direct link to dribbl's "brain".

Posted by: drivl | March 5, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Wildbore-zzzzzzzzzzzzz

Jake2D(umb): ugh. you are anti-american. go shack up with the dentist/lawyer and play with your meat puppet while you look at a picture of Ronny. Wicked Strumpet. Wicked Strumpet.

Posted by: RogerRamjet2 | March 5, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Sorry to see the representative from New York go. Now Patterson must act like a Democrat and delay any action on the seat. Don't let republicans bully your governor.

Posted by: truth1 | March 5, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse


Caroline Kennedy, Part Deux
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My God Jake, you still "on" the birth certificate thing?
Don't you have something better to type?
That might really be revelant to the topics on WaPO?

And didn't Chris tell you to knock it off.
I see you had to re-do your "penname" here to Jake D2. Did you get banned under the name Jake?
Heck, I'm online once in awhile now and all I see is you and the worn out, not valid argument.
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Forget about elected officials that are so crooked whereby we still elect them. Or so sexually deviant that they keep it in the closet and we still elect them.

Massa should join forces with this Mayor (forgot the city) that just got busted for under-age sexual involvement. Sentenced to 3 years for buying lingerie for an underage kid.
Another fine specimen of OUR electing crooked and behaviorally unsound men to seats of power.

But you---heck no---let the elected officials rape kids, have sex in bathrooms with staffers, hide thousands in refrigerators. You'll still cry in your beer about President Obama, because you are racist. You hate it that he is African American. Admit it!

How many times do you repeat the birth certificate statements-----
To your wife.
To your neighbors.
To you kids.
To the clerk at the 7-11.

'Cause you keep runnin' your mouth here.
Don't they get tired of it like we are?

I come online to discuss current events and what tragedies are taking place as we speak.
You come on line to be racist.
I'm writing Chris. I've had it.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | March 5, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

WildBill1 is a closet homosexual. I know him personally.

Posted by: swatkins1 | March 5, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse
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You promised you wouldn't tell if I spanked you the same way Pelosi likes it......Now, Uncle Harry is going to be mad....

Posted by: WildBill1 | March 5, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Democrat Eric Massa resigns from Congress because of a same sex harassment scandal. The party politics pressure must be getting to those with personal character weaknesses. Rangel’s violation of ethical standards and now Massa does not look good for the Party line Democrats vote for Obama health care. Who replaced Rangel?

Any surprise that Sander Levin D-Mich who is pro-union and anti-free-trade liberal got the job on Ways and Means? The Obama White House could not have asked for a better replacement of Rangel.

Do you think Levin will fall in line with Pelosi to pass health care legislation? Chairman of he Ways and Means can influence other Democrats and Republican in the House. You vote Pelosi Party line and we will take good care of you. Do you have anything for the Ways and Means Committee?

Watch how your Representatives vote. Speaker Pelosi will do what ever it takes for an Obama political win. Her career could depend on it. Ask the White House Chief of Staff, Rahmbo from Chicago.

Posted by: klausdmk | March 5, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse


Another day, another Democrat congressman bites the dust. Are they all sexual predators or crooks?

Posted by: screwjob11 | March 5, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Why didn't The Fix tell us what this does to the health bill math? The seat won't be filled by then. Anybody here know how many House members there are now? And does anyone know how Massa voted on the health care bill last year?

Posted by: miglefitz | March 5, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Is it just me or do these wonderful insights into Democrat indiscretions always manage to coincide with pushes for reform?

Imagine all the lobbyists, lawyers, and losers paying big bucks to dig crap up on people, scurrying around and storing up their mud balls for times like these.

Once the healthcare bill is ratified they'll fall back to the usual disinformation about what's going on in the political world. When the president starts pushing economic reform, they'll trot out the socialism bogeyman.

Let the healthcare reforms take hold, and the Republicans will save this kind of witch hunting for the elections.

Wide awake in America.

Posted by: wid3awake | March 5, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Foxxy, you must know a thing or two about fat, bald, old Queens acting angry, hitting on boys, sanctimonious lecturing, hiding from the authorites, threatening to leave, feeling alone, ashamed, etc.

finally a topic you actually know something about.

Posted by: drivl | March 5, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

37thand0street says:
Why does Massa have to go and Barney Frank gets to stay ????

I don't get it.
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Just in case you weren't joking, it's because being in a committed homosexual relationship is in no way, shape, or form, similar to sexual harrassment.

Posted by: joshlct | March 5, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

At this rate with all of the crooks in the Democrat Party there will be no elections in 2010 and Republicans can win all seats. Pelosi will probably resign because draining the swamp has become a fulltime job for her and she is getting very tired. You can see it in her face and she might have to up the botox treatments.

Posted by: Mindboggle | March 5, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Wow Jake D: yu ar so wity; please, have my baby

Posted by: RogerRamjet2 | March 5, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

So much Republicant tripe, hate and pandering.

Jimmy "I have sinned" Swaggert.

Jim Bakker

Vitter, Sen. Wide Stance, Ensign etc.

SO MANY Good Americans; so much hatred from their apologists.


Posted by: RogerRamjet2 | March 5, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

37th:

Obama should resign (regardless of whether he is a homosexual) since he isn't a "natural born" citizen.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 5, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

This thread is heading downhill fast.

Ped and Loud and dumb will feel right at home in the sludge and slop. Ped will be here long into the night, trading moronic insults.

Too bad dribbl is shackled to a gurney for her treatement and can't join us.

Posted by: drivl | March 5, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

For example, accusing someone of being or acting "gay" would be harassment.

Posted by: Wallenstein
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Not that there's anything wrong with that. does the same apply to accusing someone of being straight?

Posted by: drivl
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Yes, the same would apply to accusing someone of being straight on the job if it's an unwanted or offensive accusation in the opinion of the accused.

Posted by: BenThere | March 5, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

@WildBill
It's possible for a man to sexually harass another man without being gay oneself. For example, accusing someone of being or acting "gay" would be harassment.

Posted by: Wallenstein

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Fair enough, but a member of Congress does not resign over an unfortunate comment like, "You are so gay!" Whatever Massa did or said, it had to be pretty significant and damaging enough that resigning felt easier than trying to ride out the rest of this year, even without the pressure of reelection. Gay or not, he had to have done something pretty bad to run for the hills the way that he is.

Add to this that Massa basically lied about not being under investigation by the House Ethics Committee (which shouldn't be all that scary given that the same committee just exculpated more than half a dozen members for some pretty serious breaches of ethics rules), and Massa's coffin was sealed.

Posted by: blert | March 5, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

JakeD2


I don't know if that is a good idea.


Does that include Obama ?

There are allegations about him going around about things he has done in his past.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 5, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Leather and twinkie party at Foxxy's.

Posted by: drivl | March 5, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

I don't think reading seven lines is all that terrible.

==

well considering that most of the conservatives who post here have to move their lips while they read, seven lines is serious toil.

Look how they punctuate, and how they need to invent their own words

Posted by: Noacoler | March 5, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

koolkat_1960

You are neither cool, nor a cat. So stuff it.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 5, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

37th:

Every homosexual in Congress should resign effective immediately!

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 5, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Ace McNumbnuts, you'd be a more effective poster if you weren't so easily riled. Just like the little child that you are.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | March 5, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Why does Massa have to go and Barney Frank gets to stay ????

I don't get it.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 5, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Similarly, no comment from Nevada Sen. John Ensign (R), Nevada Gov. Jim Gibbons (R), or SC Gov. Mark Sanford (R), all of whom remain in office despite their utter lack of Republican family values.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | March 5, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

kevmm,

I don't think reading seven lines is all that terrible.

Posted by: sliowa1 | March 5, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Wow, according to this column, Massa's district is so conservative it voted for Bush in 2008! Now that's commitment to a cause.

Posted by: jamesdg | March 5, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

How did Chris Cillizza get to the position of writing for the Post? It is utterly ridiculous that one must read to the end of the second paragraph to find out that this congressman is a Democrat. Ridiculous!

Posted by: kevmm | March 5, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

There goes another Democrat caught breaking the law - they don't pay taxes, they lie constantly, steal from the taxpayer, and make unwanted sexual advances to males & Females......and they wonder why they are getting crushed in the polls.

Posted by: Realist201 | March 5, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Loud and dumb, I swear you declared you'd never return, Ace.

Like barry, the word of an avowed liberal is worthless.

Are you still sore for getting kicked out of the stooges for extreme stupidity?

Posted by: drivl | March 5, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

WildBill1 is a closet homosexual. I know him personally.

Posted by: swatkins1 | March 5, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

For example, accusing someone of being or acting "gay" would be harassment.

Posted by: Wallenstein


Not that there's anything wrong with that. does the same apply to accusing someone of being straight?

Posted by: drivl | March 5, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Of course, Gov.Patterson's future is up in the air as well!

Geez, what's with these guys??

Posted by: ItshotinPHX | March 5, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Sen. David "Diapers" Vitter, R-Cheap Hookers, had no comment.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | March 5, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

short, bald, gay, coward, sanctimonious, liberal

Perfect thread to begin Ped's all night lonely mating ritual on the Fix.

Posted by: drivl | March 5, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

WOO HOO!!!

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 5, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Ouch - the Mark Foley effect - throw him under the bus, and then back it up and forward a few times to make sure he is dead.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 5, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

@WildBill
It's possible for a man to sexually harass another man without being gay oneself. For example, accusing someone of being or acting "gay" would be harassment.

Posted by: Wallenstein | March 5, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Typical (gay) Democrat.....

Posted by: WildBill1 | March 5, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

The Noacoler congressman.

Posted by: drivl | March 5, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

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