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Liberals, Conservatives and National Journal's Vote Ratings

One of the Fix's favorite times of year -- and, no we are not kidding -- is the release of National Journal's yearly vote ratings in which they breakdown the entire ideological spectrum of Congress and determine the most liberal/most conservative members of the House and Senate.

And so we were more than a little excited when we laid our hands on the latest version, which you can check out in detail here. (You must MUST do this. Just so much terrific stuff.)

There's massive amounts of information contained in the data, which is arrived at by taking a series of selected votes over the past year and comparing how any one member voted to how the House or Senate broadly voted.

Among the most interesting stats:

* Retiring Indiana Sen. Evan Bayh was the most conservative-voting Democrat in the Senate last year with a composite conservative score of 59.3, meaning that the Hoosier Democrat voted more conservatively than the Senate as whole nearly six out of ten times. Bayh was slightly more conservative than Nebraska Sen. Ben Nelson who scored a 59.2 conservative score.

* Maine Sen. Olympia Snowe was, not surprisingly, the most liberal Republican in the Senate with a 41.2 liberal rating. Indiana Sen. Richard Lugar finished second with a liberal rating of 40.7. (Lugar and Bayh had the exact same liberal/conservative ratings. Amazing!)

* On the House side, Alabama Rep. Bobby Bright was the Democrat with the most conservative voting record (62.5 conservative score) while Delaware Rep. Mike Castle, who is running for Senate this fall, was the Republican with the most liberal rating (42.2).

* Looking for the two most endangered Senators in 2012? Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown (D) tied for the most liberal voting record in the Senate despite representing a swing state while Nevada John Ensign (R) compiled the seventh most conservative voting record even those his state went for President Obama by 12 points in 2008. (Of course, Ensign has other, bigger problems as it relates to his re-election bid.)

* Our biggest Senate surprises? Sen. John McCain, long considered by conservatives as insufficiently loyal to the cause, had the 21st most conservative voting record in 2009 -- a few ticks more conservative than even Kansas Sen. Sam Brownback. (It's probably worth noting that McCain has long suspected he would face a primary challenge from his ideological right in the form of former Rep. J.D. Hayworth.) Conversely, Wisconsin Sen. Russ Feingold, who has a reputation, generally, as a liberal was squarely in the middle of the Senate -- with a conservative rating of 52.5. (Independent Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman rated 49.7 on the conservative scale for comparison's sake.)

* Of the six House members tied for most conservative, five hail from either Arizona (Reps. Trent Franks and John Shadegg) or Texas (Reps. Randy Neugebauer, Pete Olson and Mac Thornberry.)

* The most liberal House delegation? Massachusetts with an 84.5 liberal score. The most conservative? Idaho with a 38.4 liberal score. The most centrist? New Jersey with its 60.7 liberal score.

By Chris Cillizza  |  March 1, 2010; 3:30 PM ET
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Reform is necessary to control increasing health care costs. Single payer is the solution. What better way to control the cost of a thing than to let people consume as much of it as they think they need, paid for with Other People's Money? Barack Hussein Obama (mm-mm-mm), Nancy "I have a lot in common with those people carrying swastikas" Pelosi, and Harry "Light Skinned" Reid are geniuses!

Posted by: leapin | March 2, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

I just don't get it. What is all this howling about socialism? Are these all young young young suckers who have never had to suffer with the US healthcare system?
What benefit does anyone (I mean ANYONE) see in tying healthcare to employment?
Has no one actually experienced healthcare outside the US? I have in four countries around the world and it is wonderful compared with the US!
And how did so many people get to be enthusiasts for insurance companies which bilk the American public of millions (no, billions) every year? How on earth did we develop a system where the head of an insurance company makes a million and half dollars a year and has dupes in the street raving to protect his income?
All this puzzles me very much.
I guess there is a sucker born every minute and each one of them are out to prevent American healthcare from growing up. That is the ONLY explanation I can figure.

Posted by: nycexpat | March 2, 2010 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Money's scarce but family honor
Beings it home; brings it home
At the shop the voices snicker
TV dinners; beer and liquor
A way...

-- Bolshoi

Posted by: Noacoler | March 2, 2010 1:06 AM | Report abuse

Absolutely worthless ratings if Lugar and Snowe have "liberal" ratings of about 41. Or this shows how far the definition of "liberal" has moved to the right.

Posted by: Aprogressiveindependent | March 1, 2010 11:08 PM | Report abuse

Where is the change?

Gibbs says Obama wants an 'Up-or-down vote' on health care reform.

Sure sounds like Buch circa 2005


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 1, 2010 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Do the democrats have any common decency left? It is about time to cut Charlie Rangel loose.


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House Republicans will move again on Tuesday to strip Rep. Charlie Rangel of his chairmanship of the powerful Ways and Means Committee — and after last week’s admonishment of the veteran New York lawmaker by the House ethics committee, Republicans are confident that they will be pick up more Democratic votes.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 1, 2010 9:15 PM | Report abuse

di NOOO

di NOOOO

di NOOOOOO


DI NOOOOO

DINO !!!!

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 1, 2010 9:06 PM | Report abuse

If you howler monkeys are pinning your hopes on Dino Rossi then you have no hope. Rossi is a synonym for "loser" in Washington State.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 1, 2010 8:44 PM | Report abuse

OK I think the Republicans actually now have a path to take control of the Senate - it is a long shot - but not impossible.

In this cycle, with this rotation up, it is difficult to believe.


If Tommy Thompson runs in Wisconsin, I think he will win - Wisconsin has a large large conservative and Republican population - who love Republicans.

So, Wisconsin, Indiana - and hopefully Washington State will be added to the mix and the Republicans have a path to 51.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 1, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Tommy Thompson is going to run in Wisconsin - so now Wisconsin is competitive.

WOW.

Who would have thought that Indiana and Wisconsin would have been in play?


WOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOO


I think there is this guy named Dino Rossi too.................

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 1, 2010 8:29 PM | Report abuse

obama to add 2 million jobs to the economy this summer:

1 million will be hired to dig ditches.
1 million will be hired to fill them back up.

Posted by: SuzyCcup | March 1, 2010 8:21 PM | Report abuse

'The main problem with the health care bill is that people really don't know what's in it.'

People who have bothered to find out know what's in it.

Posted by: drindl | March 1, 2010 6:09 PM


People who have bothered to find out wished they never asked.

Posted by: SuzyCcup | March 1, 2010 8:10 PM | Report abuse

obama teaching socialism 101. Bow to everyone.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2774/4393100656_45f8426656.jpg

Posted by: SuzyCcup | March 1, 2010 8:08 PM | Report abuse

I prefer my spin re: patriotism rather than partisan motives.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 1, 2010 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Americans care about results, not process. If Republicans are so convinced that Americans will punish voters of the bill, then they would allow it to come to a vote, let the Dems vote for it, and then reap the electoral rewards.

They won't do this because they know that the public wants this to be done.

Posted by: DDAWD | March 1, 2010 7:50 PM


No, they won't do it because it's more fun to watch the democrats squirm. Republicans know the voters will punish the dems in November no matter what. Might as well let the dems limp all the way until then.

Posted by: SuzyCcup | March 1, 2010 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Republicans are convinced that Americans will punish voters of the bill AND love America too much to allow SOCIALISM to pass, even if it would win win them seats.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 1, 2010 7:56 PM | Report abuse

I assume that New Jersey would be the state with median ratings for liberal vs. conservative. That this occurs at the 60% point says more about the National Journal's scoring system than the political leanings of Congressfolk.

I've a feeling some commenters to the Fix would peg a typical legislator at 90% liberal. Others 90% conservative. Hence, median is more useful than absolute numbers. Kinda like class rank vs. GPA.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | March 1, 2010 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Americans care about results, not process. If Republicans are so convinced that Americans will punish voters of the bill, then they would allow it to come to a vote, let the Dems vote for it, and then reap the electoral rewards.

They won't do this because they know that the public wants this to be done. And they will rightfully credit the Dems for it. Why do you think Republicans are making so much noise over reconciliation, a process they have invoked countless times? Because they know the consequences of allowing it to pass.

Posted by: DDAWD | March 1, 2010 7:50 PM | Report abuse

Alan Frumin may become famous - but he reminds me of Al Frohman - the sausage king from Ferris Buller.


Al Frohman - after the movie - altered his name slightly and has now risen to become the Senate Parliamentarian.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 1, 2010 7:44 PM | Report abuse

This one problem the democrats have: the liberals think they have ALREADY compromised by giving up the public option. They think that is enough.

The problem is no one wants the rest of the bill.

The bill will have to center on insurance regulation only - no taxes, no subsidies no nothing.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 1, 2010 7:29 PM | Report abuse

DDAWD


The people do NOT want this health care bill -


You are being delusional, and trying to talk yourself into it.

AND the public DOES want a bill that both parties agree on - they do NOT trust the democrats to write a bill.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 1, 2010 7:23 PM | Report abuse

DDAWD:

Then just pass it by yourselves, take your chances with the voters, and don't LIE by calling it "bipartisanship".

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 1, 2010 7:15 PM | Report abuse

The childless queen suddenly likes children.

We always knew you loved children Ped. Not in a healthy way. For them I mean.

Posted by: Moonbat | March 1, 2010 7:15 PM | Report abuse

What is conservative ???


What is liberal ????


I think we have to take a step back - and really evaluate what we mean - and what the meaning of what we mean is.


OK - let's take this an exericise out - what was conservative 20 years ago ???


What was liberal 20 years ago ???


The issues have totally changed - is that good or bad ???


What it means to be conservative has changed.


The liberals found themselves devoid of issues - and they have completely gone off the deep end with political correctness, global warming and other issues which were hardly around 20 years ago.

So if these guys are conservative by today's standards - what are they by the standards twenty years ago ?


The liberals 20 years ago would be moderate today - and they wouldn't even be considered liberal.

It is all relative - ask Einstein.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 1, 2010 7:11 PM | Report abuse

Furthermore, if the press doesn't want to call anything bipartisan, the public doesn't care one bit. TO them, bipartisan is all about process, not an end in itself. If HCR can get passed, no one is going to care one bit whether it was "bipartisan." People will be happy with the end result and that's what matters.

Posted by: DDAWD | March 1, 2010 7:11 PM | Report abuse

I dispute the National Journal's definitions of conservative and liberal.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 1, 2010 7:06 PM | Report abuse

And that would be because NO REPUBLICAN cares how many children die of treatable illnesses while they work to prevent their President from getting HCR passed, since NO REPUBLICAN is worthy of licking the bottom of his shoe.

Bipartisanship be damned.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 1, 2010 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 1, 2010 6:42 PM | Report abuse

That's right, the health care bill that passed the Senate is "truly a bipartisan bill" even if NO REPUBLICAN voted for it.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 1, 2010 6:33 PM | Report abuse

"CC wrote:

"The most centrist? New Jersey with its 60.7 liberal score."

I suppose that is possible if NJ is the 25th or 26th state on the liberal totem pole, but I will guess that is a typo and NJ has a 50.7 liberal score, the score closest to 50.

Posted by: mark_in_austin"

Yeah, I was wondering about that. I thought it might be because all the other states have such polarized delegations. Even states like Louisiana, which has a split party delegation has a sort of conservative Democrat and a batshat crazy conservative Republican. Iowa might be the only state I can think of that has two people equidistant from the 50% line.

It is kind of interesting that the most conservative Dems are in the 60s for conservative score while the most liberal Republicans are merely in the 40s for liberal score. It's a testament to the big tent philosophy of the Democrats vs the purity philosophy of the Republicans. Furthermore, it's an indication that the health care bill that passed the Senate is truly a bipartisan bill. Just not in the idiotic Washington definition. However, if you define bipartisan as a bill that spans a large political spectrum, then pretty much everything that the Senate has passed is bipartisan.

Posted by: DDAWD | March 1, 2010 6:26 PM | Report abuse

leapin and drivl:

Amazing all the comments about Biden's possible role in passing Obamacare via reconciliation. I guess that Palin was right after all? Of course, I doubt that a Vice-President Palin would be ruling the same way as Biden would ; )

Anyone else who disparaged Palin back then, but now WANTS Biden "to support the President's agenda" and be "in charge of the United States Senate, so if they want to they can really get in there with the Senators and make a lot of good policy changes that will make life better ..." really owe her an apology.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 1, 2010 6:21 PM | Report abuse

'The main problem with the health care bill is that people really don't know what's in it.'

People who have bothered to find out know what's in it.

Posted by: drindl | March 1, 2010 6:09 PM | Report abuse

zoukie, like many other repressed cons, spends most of his life thinking about the same 'dirty stuff' he's been fantasizing since childhool.

Posted by: drindl | March 1, 2010 6:08 PM | Report abuse

CC wrote:

"The most centrist? New Jersey with its 60.7 liberal score."

I suppose that is possible if NJ is the 25th or 26th state on the liberal totem pole, but I will guess that is a typo and NJ has a 50.7 liberal score, the score closest to 50.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | March 1, 2010 5:49 PM | Report abuse

The main problem with the health care bill is that people really don't know what's in it.

Sure, there are some talking points out there - people can mention 3 or 4 basic points.

However, they hear a 2000 page bill - and they really don't know what is in the bill - and curbing the abuses of the insurance company is NOT setting up a government program.

Peope do not understand the subsidies - they do not understand what that means in relation to the public option.

They STILL HAVEN'T WRITTEN A FINAL BILL - so no one still knows what the bill says - and they are lining up votes for a bill that isn't finalized - it is the MOST SLIPPERY THING I HAVE EVER HEARD OF. Why wouldn't anybody be in favor of this ????

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 1, 2010 5:46 PM | Report abuse

I think Chris misread the state delegation rankings: Massachusetts is the most liberal, but Idaho is not the most conservative, Wyoming is with a liberal rating of only 11.5. Idaho is the most liberal of the conservative states. Similarly, New Jersey is not the most centrist, that would be West Virginia with a rating of 50.1. Again, New Jersey is the most liberal of the centrist states.

Posted by: pjf0226 | March 1, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

A democracy is two wolves and one sheep voting on what to have for lunch.

sounds like Obama's tax policy.

Posted by: drivl | March 1, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Zouk, what is it with your preoccupation with wierd sex? You work into. Most of your posts. Me, I f uck men. You're always thinking about pedophilia, bestiality, sadomasochism ... so do a lot of the sickos who call themselves consevatives.

I have healthy fulfilling outlets; clearly, you don't.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 1, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

The White House has just demanded "a simple up-or-down vote" on National Medi-Grab. That's like telling diehard Japanese soldiers at the end of WWII to either stick a sword in your belly or fall on a hand grenade. You've got a real choice there! The Democrats are being invited to commit suicide one way or another. But will they march off that cliff? I don't think so. Politicians are not in the habit of killing their careers for the grandiosity of Obama. I don't remember another president asking his party to commit suicide in one grand Gotterdammerung.
Posted by: drivl
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The lib statists want to talk “majority” now not the term "reconciliation”. Changing terminology almost everyday. They use the term democracy when we are a republic. A democracy is two wolves and one sheep voting on what to have for lunch.

Posted by: leapin | March 1, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

a pol may not be able to create or save jobs, but Mr Barry is doing a great job of exactly the opposite. especially in his own party of elected officials.

Posted by: drivl | March 1, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

The difference with 20 years ago is that liberalism is now recognized as a mental disease. Something about complaining about a spending problem and then multiplying the problem four times. No survival instincts concerning terrorism. Concern about war and killing but staying the course.....

Posted by: leapin | March 1, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

'My conclusion is for some reason, all the wackjobs have come out of the woodwork over the past 10 years '


we call it the Tea party.

Posted by: drindl | March 1, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Precursor to Obamacare:
Medicare Payments to Docs
Dip 21% Starting Today

A (temporary) 21 percent pay cut for Medicare doctors begins today. According to BusinessWeek, this budget cut has already led many doctors to delay appointments for elderly patients: “We don’t know what we’re getting paid this year and we need to get systems in place before the bad news,” said Bell, a 55-year-old dermatologist who practices in Murfreesboro, Tennessee, a city of more than 100,000 southeast of Nashville. The American Medical Association, the largest U.S. group for doctors, said today “many” physicians will limit patients

Posted by: drivl | March 1, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

The government scientist blamed for the 2001 anthrax attacks was a secret cross-dresser who cultivated an obsession with bondage and blindfolding as well as the Kappa Kappa Gamma sorority, recently released FBI documents show

Ped, were you in on this? sounds like you.

Posted by: drivl | March 1, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

The White House has just demanded "a simple up-or-down vote" on National Medi-Grab. That's like telling diehard Japanese soldiers at the end of WWII to either stick a sword in your belly or fall on a hand grenade. You've got a real choice there! The Democrats are being invited to commit suicide one way or another. But will they march off that cliff? I don't think so. Politicians are not in the habit of killing their careers for the grandiosity of Obama. I don't remember another president asking his party to commit suicide in one grand Gotterdammerung.

Posted by: drivl | March 1, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

you don't seem to get it, leapin. bunning is blocking the shovel-ready jobs. see now?

president georgie didn't create a single job while in office -- but he did manage to destroy several hundred thousand.

Posted by: drindl
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Your right since a pol can't create jobs. However the economy did experience job growth for a run of several years while George was president.

Posted by: leapin | March 1, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

the conservatives of 20 years ago would be considered liberals now -- even barry goldwater is, and some say reagan too. [glenn beck for instance].

the 'conservatives' of today would have been considered simply insane by any good conservative of years ago.

Posted by: drindl | March 1, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

20 years ago - no one in the democratic party thought the single payer was a viable option at all.


NOW it is practically a litmus test for being liberal.

My conclusion is for some reason, all the wackjobs have come out of the woodwork over the past 10 years - and none of the labels mean anything anymore.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 1, 2010 5:07 PM | Report abuse

'Maybe you could ask for a lobotomy.'

i just assumed he'd had one already.

Posted by: drindl | March 1, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

What is conservative ???


What is liberal ????

I think we have to take a step back - and really evaluate what we mean - and what the meaning of what we mean is.

OK - let's take this an exericise out - what was conservative 20 years ago ???

What was liberal 20 years ago ???

The issues have totally changed - is that good or bad ???

What it means to be conservative has changed.

The liberals found themselves devoid of issues - and they have completely gone off the deep end with political correctness, global warming and other issues which were hardly around 20 years ago.


So if these guys are conservative by today's standards - what are they by the standards twenty years ago ?

The liberals 20 years ago would be moderate today - and they wouldn't even be considered liberal.


It is all relative - ask Einstein.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 1, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Bunning's buddy Inhofe is trying to get him to back off but he can't... but then, serious questions have been raised about his mental health for a long time now.

'In April 2006, Time magazine called him one of America's Five Worst Senators.[11] The magazine dubbed him The Underperformer for his "lackluster performance", saying he "shows little interest in policy unless it involves baseball", and criticized his hostility towards staff and fellow Senators and his "bizarre behavior" during his 2004 campaign.'

Posted by: drindl | March 1, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

How about Bayh and Lugar at the top of the ticket for a 3rd party?

Call it the "Party of Reason".

JK.

Posted by: SamanthaAdams | March 1, 2010 4:58 PM | Report abuse

4 postings.

3 stooges.

who could have predicted?

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you do this same pointless post every day. Do you have it on a macro key it something?

Can't write anything worth the trouble to read, do you plagiarize NR and post juvenile snark. Maybe you could ask for a lobotomy. I'm sure the staff would be happy to perform it with a butter knife just to shut you up

Posted by: Noacoler | March 1, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Why's the little girl rrunning from reporters?

Posted by: drindl


who Obama? It is true he has avoided a Q&A with the press since July when he made his police are stupid remark. since then, his constant companion is the teleprompter. can't think on his feet.
what was he before this gig, oh yeah, a community organizer. that explains it.

Posted by: drivl | March 1, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

you don't seem to get it, leapin. bunning is blocking the shovel-ready jobs. see now?

president georgie didn't create a single job while in office -- but he did manage to destroy several hundred thousand.

Posted by: drindl | March 1, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

All other things in Ohio won't be good for Friends of Jim Bunning if lots of Buckeyes lose their unemployment benefits, and lots of other Buckeyes who were waiting for the last of the snow to vacate so they can go back to work on all those permanent construction areas.

Posted by: ceflynline
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If Barry just could come up with those shovel ready jobs.

Posted by: leapin | March 1, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Bunning has given the entire Republican Senate a very bad problem. They didn't immediately take him on, and now get to be tarred with his particularly bizarre behavior. He may be in the final stages of an earl Long class melt down, and since it will be on camera and right there in the Senate where the Republicans have declared themselves the real voice of the country, he makes that self declared voice seem more and more insane.

The question is can McConnell get someone to sit on him before he really gets out of hand?

Posted by: ceflynline | March 1, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

4 postings.

3 stooges.

who could have predicted?

Posted by: drivl | March 1, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

"I think when people refer to McCain as a RINO or insufficiently loyal, they aren't so much responding to his stances as they are his willingness to reach across the aisle"

I disagree. The people who call McCain a RINO find fault with two things in particular: 1) McCain-Feingold and 2) the so-called 'amnesty' bill he proposed/supported in 2007/2008 (was it really that long ago?).

Their beef, as I understand it, isn't so much that he acted in a bipartisan fashion, so much as that conservatives 1) equate money with speech and thusly find fault with mcCain-Feingold and 2) want undocs out of the country rather than assimilated (feasibility be damned).

Posted by: bsimon1 | March 1, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Bunning is going off the deeeep end, ceff, running and hiding from reporters and flipping them off -- very mature and Senatorial, huh?

Since last week, Sen. Jim Bunning (R-KY) has been obstructing legislation to extend unemployment benefits, telling Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-OR) “tough sh*t” when Merkley pleaded with Bunning to drop the hold on the Senate floor. Bunning blocked the measure, leaving 400,000 Americans in limbo after the benefits expired at midnight on Sunday. Today, an “angry” Bunning refused to answer questions about his hold, running away from an ABC reporter and taking refuge in a senator’s only elevator. Shouting “Excuse me!,” Bunning would not say whether he was concerned about people losing their benefits.

Off camera, when ABC producer Z. Byron Wolf tried to engage Bunning, he said, “I’m not talking to anybody” and gave Wolf the middle finger."

What's the wussie Bunning afraid of? Why's the little girl rrunning from reporters?

Posted by: drindl | March 1, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

I think when people refer to McCain as a RINO or insufficiently loyal, they aren't so much responding to his stances as they are his willingness to reach across the aisle. I think that bothers tea-baggers at least as much as having liberal positions.

Posted by: DDAWD | March 1, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Just because Sherrod brown is listed as the most liberal in the Senate by the national Journal, not actually an unbiased source, or, more importantly, a neutral source, doesn't make him vulnerable. He was every bit as liberal when he was in the House, and was obviously quite liberal when he defeated Mike dewine, whose conservative bona fides were well established.

Since the Republicans will be running Rob Portman unless the T-People have their say, and then they will be running OG of the Black Hand Sandstone. Protman gets to be saddled with his Boss, Shrub, and Ohio isn't really all that fond o0f tea, it being much more likely to be used in Yellow Springs, or on the Ohio State campus, (My definition of tea came from "Have a little tea with Goldie" on the Smothers Brothers) or other unapologetic bastions of 60's counter culture people.

Ohio is a swing state, after all, and that means that it is as likely to go liberal as it is to go conservative, ALL OTHER THINGS CONSIDERED.

All other things in Ohio won't be good for Friends of Jim Bunning if lots of Buckeyes lose their unemployment benefits, and lots of other Buckeyes who were waiting for the last of the snow to vacate so they can go back to work on all those permanent construction areas.

Posted by: ceflynline | March 1, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Oh if only Texas WOULD secede.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 1, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

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