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Most top 2010 races being waged in (Hillary) Clinton country

There's a reason that Bill Clinton was making the closing argument for Sen. Blanche Lincoln (D-Ark.) just days before today's runoff, while the senator has made strides to separate herself from President Obama.

This is Clinton country.

Yes, Clinton is from the state, but it also went hugely for his wife in the 2008 presidential primary -- 70 percent to 26 percent to be exact. The state was one of Obama's worst showings in the general election too.

Arkansas is an extreme example, but many 2010 battles are being waged in similar territory. In fact, a majority of top 2010 races are being held in districts and states where Obama struggled in the Democratic primary fight two years ago.

Much has been made of Republican efforts to win the four dozen (or so) Democratic-held districts where Obama lost to John McCain in 2008. But looking at places where Obama lost to Hillary Clinton can also be instructive when it comes to understanding how the President, who is not on the ballot this fall, will nonetheless impact the fight for congressional control.

According to a Fix analysis, of the 27 Democratic-held House seats and 10 Senate races listed as toss-ups by the Cook Political Report, Obama lost roughly half of each by wide margins to Clinton during the primary season.

Obama lost to Clinton in seven of the 10 states with top Senate races, and in about 60 percent of the top 27 House districts. Five of those states and 13 of those House districts went for Clinton by double digits.

If Republicans can effectively tie candidates in these areas to Obama, it appears it could pay dividends by either wooing Democrats or getting them to stay home.

Arkansas and Pennsylvania's 12th district, where Democrats won a special House election last month, epitomize the kind of areas where Obama's looming presence could impact House and Senate candidates. Both places are filled with the white, working class voters where he lost to Clinton by big margins.

That Pennsylvania special election, which was won by Rep. Mark Critz (D-Pa.) in mid-May, took place in an area where Obama took less than one-third of the vote in the 2008 primary. It was also the only district in the country that went for Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) in 2004 and then McCain in 2008.

Given that, Critz ran against his party in Washington -- most notably on health care -- and did what he could to separate himself from Obama. It worked.

While Critz was able to win in Pennsylvania with a focus on local issues, it's far less clear whether other Democrats sitting in districts like his will be able to avoid the associations with the President on the November ballot.

Obama got crushed in the 2008 Democratic primary in Rep. Suzanne Kosmas's (D-Fla.) district as well as seats held by Reps. Alan Grayson (D-Fla.), Baron Hill (D-Ind.) and Harry Teague (D-N.M.) and outgoing Reps. Alan Mollohan (D-W.Va.), Marion Berry (D-Ark.) and Bill Delahunt (D-Mass.). In none of those districts did Obama take more than 40 percent, and he was well below that in a few of them.

In two toss-up districts in Michigan, held by Reps. Bart Stupak and Mark Schauer, Clinton won big majorities while Obama (who was forced to run as "uncommitted" due to party politics) was stuck in the 30s.

As for key Senate races, Obama's 26 percent showing in the Arkansas Democratic primary was particularly low. But he also took less than one-third of the primary vote Kentucky, which is holding key open-seat contest this year.

Obama will, undoubtedly, be a benefit to candidates in some races with the Senate and governor's races in Illinois being the prime example. But much of the territory that Democrats must defend if they want to hold critical House, and, to a lesser extent, Senate seats, are places where the President struggled during the 2008 campaign to connect.

Expect to see lots of Democratic candidates keeping Obama at arm's length and a few even running directly against him and his agenda this fall.

-- Aaron Blake

By The Fix  |  June 8, 2010; 1:30 PM ET
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Mrs. Clinton, you are for the Minorities I have heard, is that true? You are in Obamas because he chose you, correct? I think he made a great choice with you because I root for the minority in most situations. Mrs. Hillary, please help me with a cause for the People!!
usjusticewatch.com Please..

Posted by: pbbutterball | June 13, 2010 10:05 PM | Report abuse

klt: I totally understand your sentiments regarding harrasment of Clinton supporters
during the primary. I was called a racist,
a hater, a disloyal American and worse by
Obama supporters, Move On, Daily Koss, and
numerous Progressives. In Texas the Clinton
supporters were literally spit on at our state convention. I don't blame POTUS Obama who deplored such tactics, but his zealous supporters. My first vote incidentally was also for LBJ and then Humphrey so we share a background. In fact I was so angry with Obama supporters I placed a McCain sign in my yard, which I quickly too down when Palin was selected. I still long for Hillary as POTUS and hope she will reconsider and run in 2016 but not in 2012. I loved Teddy but his run against Carter gave us Reagan and history has a way of repeating itself. I would be quite happy if she is on the ticket in 2012 as VP, but that is no going to happen UNLESS Biden
steps down which is very very unlikely imho.
Hopefully after yesterday's win by Lincoln, Progressives will understand how very impt. it is to preserve conservative Ds especially here in the south b/c they are far superior to the
Teapartiers.

Posted by: leichtman1 | June 9, 2010 11:07 AM | Report abuse

leichman1: I was a Hillary supporter before I ever heard of Obama. I am a Hillary supporter today and I will be a Hillary supporter tomorrow. I hope Hillary resigns from the administration after Obama's first term, if Biden is on the ticket in 2012, and prepare to challenge Biden for the presidential nomination in 2016. About me: I am a lifelong Democrat. My first vote cast was for LBJ in 1964. I have never voted Republican. I am a Black American, who has subscribed to Ebony and Jet magazines for more than forty years. Curiously, not once did I see Barack Obama in either of those magazines, until after his 2004 convention speech. Frankly, I was turned off by the way many blacks attempted to demonize the Clinton's -- whom they initially supported -- in order to justify their en masse support for Obama, "because he was a brother with a legitimate shot," and Hillary was in his way.

Posted by: KLTLUVRLT1 | June 9, 2010 5:05 AM | Report abuse

Obama/Clinton 2012

Rachel Maddow, Host of "Meet the Press"

Two great ideas.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 8, 2010 9:56 PM | Report abuse

L1: heard from folks at ground zero of O-Nation. The calls for bringing HRC inside the WH to help 44 are growing louder. He lost MoDo the other day and is starting to lose the Moveon.org crowd and that's not good. The concern is extreme. Hillarians, stay on call.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 8, 2010 9:52 PM | Report abuse

@leichtman: don't even bother. 37th is deranged and brain damaged. Just ignore him.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 8, 2010 8:51 PM | Report abuse

klt: I share your sentiments about Hillary but precisely b/c she is a team play, that her
opponents doubted from day one, that will not happen, Biden will be Obama's running mate
in 2012 and that is quite alright with me.
Choosing her to be SOS was a bold move by
Obama that Hillary supporters much appreciate, since there was so much hostility against us
(by Obama supporters not the POTUS)during the primary. All is forgotten and forgiven.

Posted by: leichtman1 | June 8, 2010 8:38 PM | Report abuse

"Obama has had SEVEN WEEKS TO RESPOND TO THIS OIL SPILL

And still there are hundreds of birds dying"

we know that you hate Obama. That has been clear at this site for months with your daily boring repetitive rants. Any bit of news, hurricanes, earthquakes,Helen Thomas idiotic comments, shootings, birds dying,on and on and on,you tirelessly blame Obama, regardless of logic. In your delusionally world Obama personally ran the drilling operation. Not BP, not Transocean, not Halliburton, no one other than Obama. Its nice to know that he has so much free time to operate drilling rigs in between running the country's other pressing concerns like wars, the economy, and foreign policy. He must be exhausted.

Posted by: leichtman1 | June 8, 2010 8:32 PM | Report abuse

Right Wing Demands that Democrats Answer for inner city violence as it is revealed that the childhood home of former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney was met by bulldozers today in one of Detroit’s most elite neighborhoods.

The dilapidated, two-story, 5,500-quare-feet home was razed today in the Palmer Woods area near Woodward and Seven Mile. For years the house sat with a blue tarp on its roof and boarded up windows.
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Unidentified conservatives demand to know how long the Democrats had planned the demolition. "What did they know and when did they know it" shouted one conservative, who claimed he is a charter member of the Michigan Tea Party.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 8, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse

Hillary has demonstrated that she is a loyal team player -- and a great asset to the Obama administration. Democrats are going to have a tough go of it in 2012. The stars aligned for Obama in 2008, but the lustre has gone. He has fallen back to earth. Democrats need a strong united party in 2012. They need a Barack-Hillary ticket. OBAMA-CLINTON 2012.

Posted by: KLTLUVRLT1 | June 8, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse

No vote from Vietnamese community of 500,000 people for pro-communist gubernatorial candidate Jerry Brown, who, as governor of California in 1975, strongly opposed Vietnamese refugees settling in California while supporting amnesty to illegal immigrants from Mexico. In fact, he works for the interests of unions and illegal immigrants only, not for California. Worst still, Brown sided with notorious Cuban dictator Fidel Castro demanding a lift of U.S. embargo on communist Cuba for its human rights violations during his visit to Cuba in July 2000 to formalize the relationship between Brown's city of Oakland with its sister city Santiago de Cuba.

Posted by: TIMNGUYEN1 | June 8, 2010 6:56 PM | Report abuse

Keep underestimating Obama. The guy achieved in a year more than any other president since FDR. This is a two term president right there. American people are not stupid

Posted by: tchanta | June 8, 2010 6:30 PM
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Who else was handed two unwinnable and unwanted wars, a global financial collapse with U.S. fingerprints all over it that threatened Great Depression II, subsequent seize-up of credit to everyone, national foreclosures, double digit unemployment,

and then, a deep water wellhead blowout that defies capping for weeks.

At least, FDR didn't have the wellhead blowout.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 8, 2010 6:45 PM | Report abuse

@noacoler,

Better watch out or He-Who-Is-Enraged will accuse us of kissing up.

Signed:

xoxoxoxoxoxo


Posted by: 12BarBlues
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Even in code, He-Who-Is-Enraged knows his name. And then he pops up.

Right? Right?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 8, 2010 6:34 PM | Report abuse

Just remember to change the sheets and flush the tiolet when you're finished.

Posted by: Brigade | June 8, 2010 6:14 PM
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Aw, shucks, you're just jealous. Right? Right?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 8, 2010 6:32 PM | Report abuse

Another stupid article from WaPo.

Would Hillary have won againt McCain in these red districts? No

Did Obama win in a landslide against the rethugs despite losing these red states? Yes

Is Obama still popular in the states he won in 08? YES

That's what we need to know.

Keep underestimating Obama. The guy achieved in a year more than any other president since FDR. This is a two term president right there. American people are not stupid

Posted by: tchanta | June 8, 2010 6:30 PM | Report abuse


"
Whether the Hesch's are of the Tea Party persuasion, I don't know.

I'd bet, though, that Russell Hesch is NOT a Democrat.

Posted by: 12BarBlues "


What else? Opposition to HCR reform was the baggers original raison -- their organizing principle, what brought them all together in the first place. It was after all, insurance lobbyists that paid for and organized the buses, hotels, free food, etc for the first tea party gatherings, which Fox freely publicized and gave a big free boost to.

People like these are simply a product of that industry propaganda campaign... look, it worked -- they motivated really hateful people.|

Posted by: drindl | June 8, 2010 6:28 PM | Report abuse

it's nice to see that any story on any topic is an opportunity for the right to toss out that "Obama turns the U.S. to socialism" nonsense. Don't let actual facts or results on the ground dissuade you.

Posted by: RGee1 | June 8, 2010 6:10 PM
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LOL. Especially when your "actual facts or results on the ground" do not exist.

Posted by: Brigade | June 8, 2010 6:21 PM | Report abuse

@12Bar: I don't temper what I post to accomodate the head cases here. If they want to do double entendres or make hay while the sun shines let them knock themselves out. Who bloody cares.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 8, 2010 5:34 PM
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You go out of your way to antagonize. You know you love the attention. You wouldn't trade the thrill for an autographed Barney Frank B-plug.

Posted by: Brigade | June 8, 2010 6:18 PM | Report abuse

@noacoler,

Better watch out or He-Who-Is-Enraged will accuse us of kissing up.

Signed:

xoxoxoxoxoxo


Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 8, 2010 5:10 PM
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Just remember to change the sheets and flush the tiolet when you're finished.

Posted by: Brigade | June 8, 2010 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Whether he's an honorably retired officer or a career vagrant, honestly I don't care. He's another god damned right wing nut and as far as I'm concerned the entire filthy lot of them can go down the drain as green piss. Give me a button to push that'll accomplish exactly that and I'll push it.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 8, 2010 5:08 PM
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He and the guy who handled your Vietnam real estate transactions were both on Chris Hanson Investigates the other night. Green piss. Vietnam. I do see the connection.

Posted by: Brigade | June 8, 2010 6:12 PM | Report abuse

I will happily file this story under "So what?".

And Leapin, it's nice to see that any story on any topic is an opportunity for the right to toss out that "Obama turns the U.S. to socialism" nonsense. Don't let actual facts or results on the ground dissuade you.

Posted by: RGee1 | June 8, 2010 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Even better, the guy tossed away the last years of his life over a congressional vote, one of hundreds who voted, and not even a terribly significant vote at that.

It's all good. At least he won't be shooting up a Jewish Community Center.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 8, 2010 4:58 PM
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No, that will be Helen Thomas.

Posted by: Brigade | June 8, 2010 6:08 PM | Report abuse

AndyR3 wrote,
"Really? Why? Obama is immensely popular in lots of areas of this country and if you took out the really red states his approval rating would be 65%."

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LOL. Obama is really popular, except where he isn't.

Posted by: Brigade | June 8, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

I know voters who would pull the lever for Joran Van der Sloot over an incumbent who voted for Bush's $700 billion bailout of Wall Street. Sterling Greenwood/AspenFreePress

Posted by: AspenFreePress | June 8, 2010 5:52 PM | Report abuse

Rahm Emanuel cynically said, "You never want a crisis to go to waste." It is now becoming clear that the crisis he was referring to is Barack Obama's presidency.

Obama is no fool. He is not incompetent. To the contrary, he is brilliant. He knows exactly what he's doing. He is purposely overwhelming the U.S. economy to create systemic failure, economic crisis and social chaos -- thereby destroying capitalism and our country from within.

Obama is following the plan of Cloward & Piven, two professors at Columbia University. They outlined a plan to socialize America by overwhelming the system with government spending and entitlement demands. Add up the clues below. Taken individually they're alarming. Taken as a whole, it is a brilliant, Machiavellian game plan to turn the United States into a socialist/Marxist state with a permanent majority that desperately needs government for survival ... and can be counted on to always vote for bigger government. Why not? They have no responsibility to pay for it.

Posted by: leapin | June 8, 2010 5:35 PM | Report abuse

@12Bar: I don't temper what I post to accomodate the head cases here. If they want to do double entendres or make hay while the sun shines let them knock themselves out. Who bloody cares.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 8, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Well, very slow news day.

The biggest issues are on the wane. The oil gusher is in slow motion capping. Reports are now that 15,000 bbl/day are being captured. This greatly reduces the ongoing damage, and one hopes that the improvements to the capping will reduce the problem further. Mitigation efforts continue and are being ramped up. The tragedy happened some 6 weeks ago, but now things are improving.

Helen Thomas and her comments are yesterday's news.

Maybe we will have a few days or weeks without some major wellhead blowout or other catastrophe.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 8, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

we talk to these folks because they potentially have the best answers, so I know whose ass to kick.” Now am I the only one that thinks the President’s rhetoric is a bit misplaced here?

Posted by: bumblingberry
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the only thing that's going to be a bit misplaced is the metrosexual's ass after he get's done kicking it.

Posted by: leapin | June 8, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Real Men don't need to have experts in a college seminar atmosphere to find out whose "ass to kick."


It is ridiculous - Real Men KNOW whose "ass gets kicked"


Not only is Obama out-of-touch with the American People, Obama is out-of-touch with his own emotions - and his own manhood.


Metrosexual - that is the best way to put it -


The bottom line - Obama is completely worthless and ineffective.


Yea, but the liberal media keeps on saying - WHY is Obama worthless and ineffective ? WHAT is missing ???


Most of the country will tell the liberal media that Obama never had it - he was ALWAYS A BUNCH OF LIES AND DECEPTIONS.


Obama has been INEXPERIENCED, UNQUALIFIED AND CLUELESS the whole time -


When did YOU first notice ???


.

Posted by: 37thand0street | June 8, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

The press was all over Bush's case after 3 days in Katrina


We are now 7 weeks into the Oil Spill.

CLEARLY OBAMA IS DOING WORSE NOW THAN BUSH DID IN KATRINA.


The oil is still gushing out - Obama is still believing BP's lies.


Obama STILL HAS NOT SPOKEN TO BP'S TONY HAYWARD


What is that all about ?


Obama keeps on making conflicting claims -


Obama is in charge...


BP is in charge....


Obama is in charge........


BP is in charge....

Obama is so OBSESSED WITH BEING ABLE TO POINT HIS FINGER, OBAMA'S POLICY IS FROZEN.

Obama won't make a move because he might get more blame.


Still happy you voted for the metrosexual ?

.

Posted by: 37thand0street | June 8, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Obama has had SEVEN WEEKS TO RESPOND TO THIS OIL SPILL


And still there are hundreds of birds dying.


Seven weeks into Katrina, Bush had everyone out of New Orleans, the city was drained, and RAINBOWS WERE EVERYWHERE.


.


OBAMA IS SO UPSET ABOUT THE OIL SPILL because he knows he just came out in favor of expanded offshore oil drilling - and he just did a year-long safety review - and HE ASSURED EVERYONE THAT THE SAFETY STANDARDS WERE UP FOR THE TASK.


He cant understand why the country isnt slamming him harder for that.


See Obama's health care plan is TICKING DEFICIT BOMB.


HE CANT FIGURE OUT WHY THE COUNTRY ISN'T MORE UPSET ABOUT THAT EITHER.


ALL Obama's policies are a disaster.


.

Posted by: 37thand0street | June 8, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

@noacoler,

Better watch out or He-Who-Is-Enraged will accuse us of kissing up.

Signed:

xoxoxoxoxoxo

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 8, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Whether he's an honorably retired officer or a career vagrant, honestly I don't care. He's another god damned right wing nut and as far as I'm concerned the entire filthy lot of them can go down the drain as green piss. Give me a button to push that'll accomplish exactly that and I'll push it.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 8, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Not only did Hesch throw away his life, and certainly his reputation, he didn't do his 50 year old son's life any good either.

Call me an idealist, but I find it sad that a retired officer would tarnish himself in this tawdry way. Puts him in the same league as that guy who hid out in the woods for years, you know, the abortion bomber guy.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 8, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Shows what happens when you get so enraged about politics that you start thinking that you just *have* to do something.

==

Even better, the guy tossed away the last years of his life over a congressional vote, one of hundreds who voted, and not even a terribly significant vote at that.

It's all good. At least he won't be shooting up a Jewish Community Center.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 8, 2010 4:58 PM | Report abuse

So as per the advice of domestic policy adviser Spike Lee — who apparently hasn’t found anyone thin-skinned enough to goad since Reggie Miller retired — President Obama decided show some carefully scripted and largely unconvincing anger over the situation in the Gulf: “I don’t sit around just talking to experts because this is a college seminar, we talk to these folks because they potentially have the best answers, so I know whose ass to kick.” Now am I the only one that thinks the President’s rhetoric is a bit misplaced here?

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 8, 2010 4:58 PM | Report abuse

It just keeps getting better:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/08/california-republicans-wo_n_603429.html

"Birther queen Orly Taitz's claim to fame might not have seemed like an ideal launching pad for a Republican campaign for California Secretary of State, but now her momentum has the GOP quaking in their boots.

Taitz is facing a rather weak primary challenge from former Jacksonville Jaguar Damon Dunn on Tuesday, and Republican officials are worried that the controversial conspiracy theorist could go all the way.

As Politico reported Monday, the GOP would see a Taitz victory as a lost opportunity:

"It'd be a disaster for the Republican party," says James Lacy, a conservative GOP operative in the state. "Can you imagine if [gubernatorial candidate] Meg Whitman and [candidate for Lt. Gov.] Abel Maldonado -- both of whom might have a chance to win in November -- had to run with Orly Taitz as secretary of state, who would make her cockamamie issues about Obama's birth certificate problems at the forefront of her activities?"

Posted by: Noacoler | June 8, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

You will have enormous power if you are the person in the office who can write a clear and concise memo."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Ped may get that promotion to the secretarial pool if she keeps working on her grammar. Someday she hopes to be able to write an entire memo all on her own.

It's not about using good grammar in a work product Ped, It's about correcting other on web sites you petulant pedestrian pedant.

Have at it Pavlov!

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 8, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Whether the Hesch's are of the Tea Party persuasion, I don't know.

I'd bet, though, that Russell Hesch is NOT a Democrat.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 8, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Well it's a good thing Hesch was willing to lose his freedm 'cause he done lost it .. but not by painting a bridge in congressional blood, just by making stupid unhinged threats.

Gotta love that teabagger attrition.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 8, 2010 4:41 PM
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Turns out Hesch had been flooding Stupak with emails in addition to the now famous Bridge Blood letter. Did he really think the feebs wouldn't figure it out? That's what the feebs are particularly good at.

Hesch has some kind of savior complex--willing to go to jail over politics. Can you imagine anyone thinking all this is so important they're willing to go to prison for it?

Shows what happens when you get so enraged about politics that you start thinking that you just *have* to do something.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 8, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

There seems to be no paucity of poltroons in the Ped household.

Excluding the dumb birdbrains of course. How do you tell the birdbrains? no hair!

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 8, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

zouk's screed against good grammar is soundly contradicted by that rarest of avians, an honest conservative:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/08/opinion/08brooks.html

"No matter what you do in life, you will have a huge advantage if you can read a paragraph and discern its meaning (a rarer talent than you might suppose). You will have enormous power if you are the person in the office who can write a clear and concise memo."

This is of course for other readers, it's unreasonable to expect someone who's reached the later half of life without learning simple impulse control to have any use for the humanities.

Posted by: Noacoler
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The only part you were interested in was "The Big Shag". It's not what you think.

Posted by: leapin | June 8, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Well it's a good thing Hesch was willing to lose his freedm 'cause he done lost it .. but not by painting a bridge in congressional blood, just by making stupid unhinged threats.

Gotta love that teabagger attrition.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 8, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Take it from me, a reformed biter of troll bait. I used to get drawn in, I don't anymore. Don't give this sicko the satisfaction of getting your goat.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 8, 2010 3:45 PM

Poor Ped can't even maintain her own advice for an entire hour. she is pathological.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 8, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Apparently, the elder Hesch, a retired Lt. Colonel, who ended the letter with this quote:

"I have the knowledge, the means, the resources and the commitment, that you have propagated, to fully execute this plan. I am also willing to sacrifice my liberties and freedoms to this end."

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 8, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Re the Hesch father and son in custody for threats again Bart Stupak:

In 2007, a letter from Hesch was published in the Ogemaw County Herald in which he criticized Stupak for his support of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

"In light of America's enemies joyfully embracing and encouraging you and Pelosi along with the entire Democrat Party ... do you intend to continue to support position that can only be regarded as seditious at best?" it read. The letter was signed, Russell J. Hesch, LTC USA (Ret).

At VFW Post 3775 in West Branch, where Hesch was a member, former Post Commander Ray Adams said, "I'm a little bit flabbergasted."

Hesch was widely known to have strong political views.

"He's very opinionated. But we all have opinions," Adams said. But a threat of physical violence "doesn't sound like Mr. Hesch to me."

State Rep. Joel Sheltrown, D-West Branch, said Hesch is "about as hard-core right as you could get." But Sheltrown said he had always been civil.

Detroit Free Press

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 8, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

URGENT TO Tom Perez, Deputy Atty. Gen. for Civil Rights:

When are you going to start protecting extrajudicially targeted and persecuted Americans?

HOMELAND FUSION CENTER MICROWAVE CELL TOWER WEAPON SYSTEM SILENTLY ASSAULTS, TORTURES, IMPAIRS 'TARGETED' AMERICANS: VETERAN JOURNALIST

• Supposed "dissidents" and "undesirables" also targeted by multi-agency program for financial sabotage, community-based, police-protected, GPS-enabled vigilante stalking and harassment, and ideologically-driven censorship -- a genocidal purge.

All of those cell towers you see all over America are NOT all for phone calls.

Some of them are TORTURE TOWERS -- part of a nationwide microwave/laser radio frequency "directed energy weapon" system that is being used by operatives of the multi-agency Homeland Security-run "fusion center" network to silently torture, impair, and physically and neurologically degrade the functioning and well-being of extrajudicially, unjustly '"targeted" citizens...

And apparently, this precision-targeted domestic weapon system being used to attack and harm U.S. citizens has been deployed WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF CONGRESS or high state officials.

• When will President Obama stop the human and civil rights atrocities of a multi-agency fusion center shadow government?

WHEN WILL CONGRESS INVESTIGATE EXTRAJUDICIAL TORTURE IN AMERICA...

...AND CALL SECRET SERVICE DIRECTOR MARK SULLIVAN AS THE FIRST WITNESS?

BUCKS COUNTY, PA: "Mid-Atlantic States (including D.C.) Centcom of a Fusion Center Gestapo."

http://nowpublic.com/world/u-s-silently-tortures-americans-cell-tower-microwaves
http://nowpublic.com/world/gestapo-usa-govt-funded-vigilante-network-terrorizes-america
OR NowPublic.com/scrivener OR Facebook -- Vic Livingston ("Notes")

Posted by: scrivener50 | June 8, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

zouk's screed against good grammar is soundly contradicted by that rarest of avians, an honest conservative:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/08/opinion/08brooks.html

"No matter what you do in life, you will have a huge advantage if you can read a paragraph and discern its meaning (a rarer talent than you might suppose). You will have enormous power if you are the person in the office who can write a clear and concise memo."

This is of course for other readers, it's unreasonable to expect someone who's reached the later half of life without learning simple impulse control to have any use for the humanities.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 8, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

blert writes
"So do caucus states not have any competitive races in the House or Senate this year? I already mentioned one--Idaho--but I'm curious to see how the trend holds up on caucus states vs. primary states."


Good memory & good point. The way I recall it is what you describe, plus the strategy of the Obama campaign to target states where they'd get the best return for their efforts. Your Idaho point reminds me they specifically targetted some areas where Dems weren't very well organized precisely so they could step in & build an effective organization that wasn't competing with the Clinton machine. i.e. they didn't make an effort in Arkansas, as that would have been wasted effort, low bang for the buck on the Clintons' home turf.

Posted by: bsimon1 | June 8, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

think the Obungler economy has postponed this move. also, pretty soon the Ped will realize that the translater and the lawyer and the government guy were all in on it and you actually can't buy land there if you're a ferrener. when she takes her bus trip over to the courthouse, they will give her a good laugh. you fell for that one Yankee? Let me buy you a Pho.

Posted by: bumblingberry
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I thought that the Vietnamese Frank and Dodd had arranged a sub-prime mortgage for the NoaCom.

Posted by: leapin | June 8, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

As I think about my last post and about the 2008 primary season, it comes to me that one reason for this trend might be the difference between caucuses and primaries. Clinton tended to do fairly well in the primaries, but Obama trounced her in caucuses. Yes, Obama lost all of these districts in the primaries, as Blake cites, but Obama lost a lot of primaries. What won Obama the nomination were the facts that caucus states comprised enough delegates that he was able to build an insurmountable lead and that Democrats tend to use proportional representation in assigning delegates, so that even with some heavy losses in primaries, Obama still built an insurmountable lead in delegates.

So do caucus states not have any competitive races in the House or Senate this year? I already mentioned one--Idaho--but I'm curious to see how the trend holds up on caucus states vs. primary states.

Posted by: blert | June 8, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Don't annoy the Ped, or she will threaten to move to Vietcong again.

I think the Obungler economy has postponed this move. also, pretty soon the Ped will realize that the translater and the lawyer and the government guy were all in on it and you actually can't buy land there if you're a ferrener. when she takes her bus trip over to the courthouse, they will give her a good laugh. you fell for that one Yankee? Let me buy you a Pho.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 8, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse


Dan Zak writes in the Post


MOSS POINT, MISS. -- Three dollars'll get you the "gulf oil spill shot." Blue Curacao polluted by black vanilla vodka and Bailey's. The shot goes down sweet, which means it's downright medicinal in these parts, where oil bitters every boat ride, every sunset.


NOW CHRIS, WHY CAN'T YOU WRITE LIKE THIS ???

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Posted by: 37thand0street | June 8, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Interesting premise, and I wonder why this is the case. Is it that the areas that went for Clinton tend to feature a more moderate electorate, and thus these are the areas most up for grabs in the next election?

I can think of some glaring exceptions to this premise, though. Idaho's House race with Democrat Walt Minnick defending his seat is a good example. Obama trounced Clinton in Idaho, despite Idaho being a very conservative state, thanks to good organizing in the Idaho Democratic caucuses. Minnick then ended up snagging a House seat for the Democrats in the general election, while the state's presidential vote went for McCain. Minnick probably has the edge in the upcoming race, largely thanks to his willingness to buck the party and vote as a conservative much of the time, but the race is no done deal. It's a competitive seat in an area that went strongly for Obama over Clinton. There are others, but this is just one example to maybe help throw a monkey wrench in the theory.

Posted by: blert | June 8, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

The NoaCom doth protest too much, methinks

Posted by: leapin | June 8, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Dan Zek writes in the Post

MOSS POINT, MISS. -- Three dollars'll get you the "gulf oil spill shot." Blue Curacao polluted by black vanilla vodka and Bailey's. The shot goes down sweet, which means it's downright medicinal in these parts, where oil bitters every boat ride, every sunset.

NOW CHRIS, WHY CAN'T YOU WRITE LIKE THIS ???


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Posted by: 37thand0street | June 8, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

When asking someone about their biggest annoyances in life, you might expect responses like “hunger,” “being poor,” or “getting shot.” If you ask a Lib, the most common response will likely be “people who use ‘their’ when they mean ‘there.’ Maybe comma splices, I’m not sure but it’s definitely one of the two.”

If you wish to gain the respect of a Lib, it’s probably a good idea that you find an obscure and debated grammar rule such as the “Oxford Comma” and take a firm stance on what you believe is correct. This is seen as more productive and forward thinking than simply stating your anger at the improper use of “it’s.

Another important thing to know is that when Ped reads magazines and books she is always looking for grammar and spelling mistakes. In fact, one of the greatest joys a Lib can experience is to catch a grammar mistake in a major publication. Finding one allows a Lib to believe that they are better than the writer and the publication since they would have caught the mistake. The more respected the publication, the greater the thrill. If Ped were to catch a mistake in The New Yorker, it would be a sufficient reason for a large party.

Though they reserve the harshest judgment for professional, do not assume that Libs will cast a blind eye to your grammar mistakes in email and official documents. They will judge you and make a general assessment about your intelligence after the first infraction. Fortunately, this situation can be improved if you ask a Lib to proof read your work before you send it out. “Hey Ped, I’m sorry to do this, but I have a business degree and I’m a terrible writer. Can you look this over for me?” This deft maneuver will allow the Ped to feel as though her liberal arts degree has a purpose and allow you to do something more interesting.

Don’t worry, it is impossible for a Ped to turn down the opportunity to proofread.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 8, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

The press was all over Bush's case after 3 days in Katrina


We are now 7 weeks into the Oil Spill.


CLEARLY OBAMA IS DOING WORSE NOW THAN BUSH DID IN KATRINA.

The oil is still gushing out - Obama is still believing BP's lies.

Obama STILL HAS NOT SPOKEN TO BP'S TONY HAYWARD

What is that all about ?

Obama keeps on making conflicting claims -


Obama is in charge...

BP is in charge....

Obama is in charge........

BP is in charge....


Obama is so OBSESSED WITH BEING ABLE TO POINT HIS FINGER, OBAMA'S POLICY IS FROZEN.


Obama won't make a move because he might get more blame.

Still happy you voted for the metrosexual ?

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Posted by: 37thand0street | June 8, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Check out your typical Dbagger:

Attends “free lunch” parties.

Highly dependent on government handouts.

Pays little or no federal income tax.

Tows the line of their liberal commentator masters.

Has no interest or care about how much the government spends, after all they pay no taxes.

Posted by: leapin | June 8, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Traceable death threats to elected officials. not the sharpest knives in the drawer. Now removed from cicrulation, a most agreeable conclusion.

Think of it as evolution in action.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 8, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

the mindless dingbat drivl has now taken to repeat posting of some hateful screed over and over on every thread until someone, anyone acknowledges her idiocy.

OK, dunce, you exist. Happy now?

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Her name is drindl and Windows 7 cut and paste was her idea.

Posted by: leapin | June 8, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

REPUBLICANS Block Effort To Hold Big Oil Companies Accountable For Economic Damage From Spills


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http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2010/05/13/shocker-gop-blocks-effort-to-hold-oil-companies-accountable-for-economic-damage-from-spills/
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Big Oil will always seek to externalize costs - that is, to make society bear the cost of their activities. Be it pollution, injured workers, providing educated workforce, or what have you, corporations seek to externalize costs.


Republicans, who exist to serve the wealthiest among us, seek to help Big Oil "socialize" (tax payer bailouts) their costs.


And the Teabaggers Clowns Have No Problem With This BAILOUT?.....oh, that's right, the Teabaggers are the Republican base, and their overlords (Rush, Beck, Billo etc) told them that Big Oil always has the best interests of 'real Americans' in mind......nevermind.

Posted by: DrainYou | June 8, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

aaron blake writes
"Arkansas is an extreme example, but many 2010 battles are being waged in similar territory. In fact, a majority of top 2010 races are being held in districts and states where Obama struggled in the Democratic primary fight two years ago."


The premise is interesting, but the author has only done the first step in researching whether there's a story here. Step 2 is a bit tougher - the why. Establishing correlation is easy. But you haven't really told us anything predictive for this election cycle.

So... what characteristics do these districts share? Are they primarily rural? What are the demographics? As Blake notes, Arkansas is something of a special case - for one thing, the Obama campaign didn't make an effort there, conceding the state to it's former first lady. Of the districts listed, the vast majority are in the south - with the exception of two districts in Michigan.

I look forward to the followup piece that digs a little deeper into this pattern.

Posted by: bsimon1 | June 8, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

YAWN.

Posted by: drindl | June 8, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

the mindless dingbat drivl has now taken to repeat posting of some hateful screed over and over on every thread until someone, anyone acknowledges her idiocy.

OK, dunce, you exist. Happy now?

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 8, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse


drinl


How does that compare to the 34 people who were ACTUALLY shot in Chicago over Memorial Day weekend ?


I don't know how to track how many were shot last weekend -

THAT is just ONE CITY

Seriously.

The shootings and death toll PILES UP IN THE INNER CITIES - and all you want to do is focus on a few nuts - many of whom never ended up hurting anyone.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | June 8, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Check out your typical teabagger:

A father and son have been arrested and charged with conspiring to threaten a U.S. official after they allegedly sent a letter to Rep. Bart Stupak (D-MI) threatening to kill him over his vote for the health care bill.

Russell Hesch, 73, and David Hesch, 50, were charged with conspiracy to threaten to assault, kidnap or murder a U.S. official. They face up to five years in prison and a $250,000 fine.

In the most explicit threat from the letter, the author threatens to "paint the Mackinaw [sic] Bridge with the blood of you and your family members. ... Maybe you will be the main character of a story that parents tell their children as they cross the bridge decades from know [sic]. The red paint of Bart Stupak!

"Actions and decisions carry consequences. Are you and your family prepared for those consequences? Is your wife, Laurie Ann, prepared for those consequences? Is your son Ken and his family prepared for those consequences?" it reads in part.

"Without going into great detail and potentially spoiling the surprise of your fate I wonder if you have ever watched the Showtime Series Dexter?" the letter reads, a reference to a TV show about a serial killer. "I have been a faithful fan since its inception. I believe that this show stirs a primeval emotion that is within us all just waiting to be explored."

Toward the end, the letter, signed "The Devil within Us," says this fate can be avoided if Stupak resigns immediately and admits that his health care vote "was wrong and under handed," or if he follows "in the footsteps" of his late son, Bart Stupak Jr., who committed suicide in 2000. "


Posted by: drindl | June 8, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Obama has had SEVEN WEEKS TO RESPOND TO THIS OIL SPILL


And still there are hundreds of birds dying.

Seven weeks into Katrina, Bush had everyone out of New Orleans, the city was drained, and RAINBOWS WERE EVERYWHERE.


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OBAMA IS SO UPSET ABOUT THE OIL SPILL because he knows he just came out in favor of expanded offshore oil drilling - and he just did a year-long safety review - and HE ASSURED EVERYONE THAT THE SAFETY STANDARDS WERE UP FOR THE TASK.


He cant understand why the country isnt slamming him harder for that.

See Obama's health care plan is TICKING DEFICIT BOMB.


HE CANT FIGURE OUT WHY THE COUNTRY ISN'T MORE UPSET ABOUT THAT EITHER.


ALL Obama's policies are a disaster.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | June 8, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Andy, CC actually believes the republican press releases he types.

Check out your typical teabagger:

'A father and son have been arrested and charged with conspiring to threaten a U.S. official after they allegedly sent a letter to Rep. Bart Stupak (D-MI) threatening to kill him over his vote for the health care bill.

Russell Hesch, 73, and David Hesch, 50, were charged with conspiracy to threaten to assault, kidnap or murder a U.S. official. They face up to five years in prison and a $250,000 fine.

In the most explicit threat from the letter, the author threatens to "paint the Mackinaw [sic] Bridge with the blood of you and your family members. ... Maybe you will be the main character of a story that parents tell their children as they cross the bridge decades from know [sic]. The red paint of Bart Stupak!

"Actions and decisions carry consequences. Are you and your family prepared for those consequences? Is your wife, Laurie Ann, prepared for those consequences? Is your son Ken and his family prepared for those consequences?" it reads in part.

"Without going into great detail and potentially spoiling the surprise of your fate I wonder if you have ever watched the Showtime Series Dexter?" the letter reads, a reference to a TV show about a serial killer. "I have been a faithful fan since its inception. I believe that this show stirs a primeval emotion that is within us all just waiting to be explored."

Toward the end, the letter, signed "The Devil within Us," says this fate can be avoided if Stupak resigns immediately and admits that his health care vote "was wrong and under handed," or if he follows "in the footsteps" of his late son, Bart Stupak Jr., who committed suicide in 2000. "


They have nothing but hate, just like ole zouky and his million monikers."

Posted by: drindl | June 8, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

It is NOW SEVEN WEEKS INTO THE OIL SPILL - AND OBAMA APPEARS TO HAVE LESS OF A COMMAND ON THE SITUATION COMPARED TO EARLIER IN THE CRISIS.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | June 8, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Congrats to shrink2, you have the flattery of imitation and from an unexpected and unsavory quarter

Posted by: Noacoler | June 8, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Real Men don't need to have experts in a college seminar atmosphere to find out whose "ass to kick."


It is ridiculous - Real Men KNOW whose "ass gets kicked"


Not only is Obama out-of-touch with the American People, Obama is out-of-touch with his own emotions - and his own manhood.


Metrosexual - that is the best way to put it -


The bottom line - Obama is completely worthless and ineffective.


Yea, but the liberal media keeps on saying - WHY is Obama worthless and ineffective ? WHAT is missing ???


Most of the country will tell the liberal media that Obama never had it - he was ALWAYS A BUNCH OF LIES AND DECEPTIONS.


Obama has been INEXPERIENCED, UNQUALIFIED AND CLUELESS the whole time -


When did YOU first notice ???

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Posted by: 37thand0street | June 8, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

the growth in the job market

hahahahahahahahahahahaha

oh stop, my ribs are aching.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 8, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Every Repub who ran against Obungler Won, AND every Dem who was blessed by Obungler lost:

VA
PA
FL
MA
NJ
HI

coming soon

AR
NV
IL
DE
PA again
CO
CA
NC
MO

and that's just the Senate.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 8, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse

The thing is that a lot of the same areas and states that Obama didn't win in the primaries also went to McCain in the general (Arkansas for example).

Also this statement is ridiculous
"Expect to see lots of Democratic candidates keeping Obama at arm's length and a few even running directly against him and his agenda this fall."

Really? Why? Obama is immensely popular in lots of areas of this country and if you took out the really red states his approval rating would be 65%. Not to mention any southerner would love to have his support due to the fact that he draws so many black voters to the polls. On top of that we know that the FinReg law has been very well received so I don't see anyone running away from that, plus the parts of the HCR bill that will go in effect over the next 6 months are very popular. Taken with the growth in the job market and I think by September you will see almost every Democrat in the country beating down Obama's door to have him campaign with them.

Posted by: AndyR3 | June 8, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Obama has managed to retain high favorables even as he grapples with a man-made (manufacutred?) crisis. Young Mr. Blake should heed the words of Tip O'Neill: "All politics is local."

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A DAY IN THE LIFE...

I read the news today (about Mercurio). Oh boy. Must take another listen to that great album -- "The Who Sell Out."

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HOMELAND 'FUSION CENTER' AGAIN CENSORS NET POLITICAL SPEECH

* Here's how they do it -- are you among the unjustly "targeted" too?

* What don't they want reported? See link at the end of this article:

http://nowpublic.com/world/homeland-fusion-center-censors-net-political-comments-yet-again OR Vic Livingston -- Facebook "Notes"

Posted by: scrivener50 | June 8, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

"Given that, Critz ran against his party in Washington -- most notably on health care -- and did what he could to separate himself from Obama. It worked."

Yeah, once. Every other Dem who ran against Obama lost. Some analysis.

Posted by: drindl | June 8, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse

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