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Ney's Got Numbers Too

One day after attorney Zack Space (D) released polling that showed him with a double digit lead over incumbent Rep. Bob Ney (R) in Ohio's 18th U.S. House district race, Ney has published numbers of his own that paint a very different picture.

Ney leads Space 45 percent to 41 percent in the survey, conducted by Public Opinion Strategies' Glen Bolger. That marks a considerable improvement from January when Ney trailed Space 49 percent to 37 percent "shortly after Jack Abramoff pleaded guilty and the story was all over the news," according to a memo penned by Bolger and released this morning.

Bolger, one of the preeminent pollsters on the Republican side, acknowledged that Ney is far from out of the woods but added that "the powers of incumbency are strong, and Zack Space is an untested candidate who is out of step with the voters of the district."

Who's right? We won't know until Election Day. But, the polling tit-for-tat shows that both sides are monitoring this race closely and it should be one of the tightest contests in the country.

By Chris Cillizza  |  July 11, 2006; 12:42 PM ET
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As previously noted, facts and data are seemingly irrelvant to you. Yes, the issue of corruption DOES resonate with the american public. I don't know how many people outside your pod you come in contact with, but I have a retail store and a large number of community contacts both personal and political, and corruption, while not as big an issue as say, your screwed up $490+ Billion dollar war, or the medicaid mess, it is definitely on the radar. The convictions are coming, regularly [did you really read my post?] and there will be more. Two crooked dems do not even come close to equalling the squalor that is the republican party. You can dream about holding onto what you have all you want, but harsh cold reality will intervene come november. We win YOU lose.

Posted by: GARY STAIGER | July 12, 2006 4:27 PM | Report abuse

sorry about the triple post

Posted by: Ohio guy | July 12, 2006 4:18 PM | Report abuse

"Hell you got 2 Dem congressmen who are in probably deeper trouble than Ney." - Vivian

"You cite two Dems, I assume Rep Jefferson is one, don't know about your other one but hey, check out this very partial and very incomplete list..." - Gary

"Alan Mollohan, West Virgina congressman." - Vivian


Wow, am I the only person who didn't know that Alan Mollohan is in "deeper trouble than Ney", as our resident neocon puts it? I must have missed it when Alan Mollohan was fingered in five seperate plea deals in corruption cases like Ney has been. I also didn't know he took so much money from Abramoff and Abramoff's clients like Ney did. I also didn't know he was one of the people who went on that golf trip to St. Andrews that was paid for illegally by lobbyists, like Ney did. I didn't know that Mollohan traded legislative favors in return for campaign donations, gifts and free meals at a restuarant, like Ney did. Wow. Mollohan is in DEEP trouble.

Maybe the reason I didn't know about any of these things is b/c they didn't happen........


Posted by: Anonymous | July 12, 2006 4:17 PM | Report abuse

"Hell you got 2 Dem congressmen who are in probably deeper trouble than Ney." - Vivian

"You cite two Dems, I assume Rep Jefferson is one, don't know about your other one but hey, check out this very partial and very incomplete list..." - Gary

"Alan Mollohan, West Virgina congressman." - Vivian


Posted by: Ohio guy | July 12, 2006 4:17 PM | Report abuse

"Hell you got 2 Dem congressmen who are in probably deeper trouble than Ney." - Vivian

"You cite two Dems, I assume Rep Jefferson is one, don't know about your other one but hey, check out this very partial and very incomplete list..." - Gary

"Alan Mollohan, West Virgina congressman." - Vivian


Posted by: Ohio guy | July 12, 2006 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Gary, Larry, Peter, OG:
What, you guys crawled out of your chat room to come after me? Drindl in there too.

Alan Mollohan, West Virgina congressman.

Hate to tell you this your anger and outrage is not shared by mainstream Americans. Better to find a new dog to hunt with because corruption ain't it.

Ney may have a problem but if he is indicted, will step down and Joy Padget wins the seat. Taft is not running and he was only convicted of a misdemeanor for failing to disclose accepted gifts, not the bribe taking of Jefferson or Mollohan.

Indictments and accusations are one thing, convictions are something else. Anyone with a conviction has a real problem. Like Cunningham, he resigned and the GOP has kept the seat.

Posted by: vivabush04OH | July 12, 2006 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Testing! Testing! Bush Stole the Election of 2004 in Ohio - Good job Kenny Boy Blackwell - Keep up the good work - Bob Ney needs you. If this gets through the censors are temporarily down.

Posted by: Peter E | July 12, 2006 3:02 PM | Report abuse

The leaders of the Republican party realized that after the two landslide victories for pres Clinton that they no longer had enough voters to win a national election. Plan B was to lie cheat and steal the election of 2000. They failed in that cosidering Gore defeated Bush by almost 600000 votes. The cheating continued into the elections of 2002 and 2004. It will continue to 2006 but the overwhelming vote for Dem candidates will be impossible to overcome. Sorry facists we out number you.

Posted by: Larry | July 12, 2006 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Re:Ney>>"Will Heaton, his Chief of Staff and Brian Walsh, his communications director are both leaving. And Chris Otillo, his legislative director, apparently bailed last Friday." Think they just might know somethig we don't??? Also, just because there are no pictures [yet] of Ney receiving bribes...the trip to Scotland with Abramhoff is very well documented...perhaps not a smoking gun, but certainly a a very warm goilf club.

You cite two Dems, I assume Rep Jefferson is one, don't know about your other one but hey, check out this very partial and very incomplete list...
>>"In the past two years, campaign and political action committees controlled by Rep. John T. Doolittle (R-Calif.) paid ever-larger commissions to his wife's one-person company and spent tens of thousands of dollars on gifts at stores such as Saks Fifth Avenue and Tiffany & Co. and a Ritz-Carlton day spa."
>>An Ex Texas Congressman named Tom DeLay...another one named Randy Cunningham...
>>The sitting Republican Governor of Kentucky has just been indicted on three counts of corruption;
>>The Republican Governor of Ohio has previously been convicted of several charges of corruption;
>>The former Republican Governor of Illinois has just been convicted of multiple counts of individual corruption, including scamming campaigns for payments to family members and, most notoriously, being involved in a "bribe-for-license" scheme while Secretary of State that resulted in the death of a Wisconsin family;
Need I mention the connection between Republicans and a company named Enron [single biggest finacial force in Bush '04 fundraisinhg] ??
>>Does the name Halliburton and the term NO BID contracts resonate with you??

I could go on, but there is probably a limit to how much space one person can use up on this blog.

In contrast the Democratic leadership has moved aggresively to strip Rep.Jefferson of his positions in the House. There are no plans I know of for the DNC to hold any Defense Fundraiswrs for Mr Jefferson.

Your lame flame of a defense is just that, lame. Your team has many many more bad apples than ours, and the stench of republican corruption has become overwhelming.
Sorry to bother you with facts and data,somnething I gather from reading this blog that you do not have much use for, but thats what people will be looking at in November. We win, you lose.

Posted by: GARY STAIGER | July 12, 2006 2:20 PM | Report abuse

"But Viva, you'd have to leave the basement."

Drindl that's a good one but I don't think Vivian lives in a basement, I think he lives in one of those incubation chambers like Dick Cheney does where repuglican propaganda is constantly spewed at you and there is a continuous soundtrack of John Ashcroft singing "Let the Eagle Soar".

Glad you liked my earlier $narky po$t by the way.

Posted by: Ohio guy | July 12, 2006 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Corruption is a non-starter.
Hell you got 2 Dem congressmen who are in probably deeper trouble than Ney. At least he isn't on camera taking the dough nor has his freezer been loaded with $90,000. Should be good timing to show that all politicos do this, not just one party.

There is not a single Ohio GOP candidate that is personally tainted by Taft or Noe. But keep dreaming and pouring that unlimited money whether from Soros or the bloggersphere. We saw how it was wasted in 04 and last year.

If Ney is indicted he steps down and we get a new, untainted candidate named Joy Padget who beats Space cadet with no sweat.

Posted by: vivabush04OH | July 12, 2006 12:30 PM | Report abuse

The stench from the Oh-18 is part and parcel of the one coming from Columbus {Taft] and Toldeo [Noe], fact is the smell of corruption is pretty much blanketing the state. I predict Bob Ney {Congressman #1] will be indicted and,like Humpty Dumpty after his fall, all the teenage minds VivaBush can twist into canvassing with him won't be able to save the 18th District for the Grand Oil Party

Posted by: GARY STAIGER | July 12, 2006 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Too much wacky tabacky there Dirndl?

I never said that elections were meant to be bought. You musta missed the part where I stated that I and a group of teenagers knocked on doors as a GOTV effort in 2004.

Any serious candidate realizes that he/she must raise big $$ to stand a chance of winning. It's nothing the GOPs have mysteriously figured out.

Polls are good to have but they hardly tell you everything. The poll taken on labor day is a good yardstick on where you stand with 2 months to decide whether or not you have a chance.

You need MOM to win--
Money, Organization,Message. Money isn't everything but it is likely that a winner had more than a loser in a given race.
That goes both for DIMs and GOPs.

By any means necessary, baby.

Posted by: VivaBush04OH | July 12, 2006 10:39 AM | Report abuse

RMill: interesting analysis, thanks.

Just a few considerations to toss out. Space is a graduate of the prestigious, politically active Kenyon College in Knox County. Students there will already be motivated to support him and moreso because he is a Kenyon alumnus. Will it matter? I don't know... Most students probably won't be registered in the district itself, but they will provide a reliable pool of volunteers.

Athens county is heavily Democratic, but the Republican legislature knew that. Only a small part of it is in the 18th.

That's an interesting point about Space raking in more primary votes. One last consideration though might be that Democrats were much likelier to vote in the primary since they perceived a long-witheld chance to beat Ney, but that Republicans were less enthusiastic about casting a primary vote for him, deflating their turnout. Nonetheless, the base will probably still be motivated enough to turn out on election day, so any possible Democratic victory will rely upon high Democratic and indepedent motivation.

Posted by: peter | July 12, 2006 10:34 AM | Report abuse

'Worse comes to worse, Viva goes down there and kicks butt.'

But Viva, you'd have to leave the basement.

'How much $ will Space have?'

It IS amusing, as the last poster so eloquently put it, that you freely admit that republicans only win because they have so corrupted the electoral system that it's now only a matter of who's got the bigger bucks to buy the seat. We aren''t talking about democracy here. Guess that's what Chris means by 'The Fix'. Because it's in.

I have to add in terms of polls [having written a lot of focus group research material] --you can get people to say anything you want, no matter what they think they believe. It's all in how you construct the question. There is no such thing as neutral wording.

Posted by: Drindl | July 12, 2006 9:57 AM | Report abuse

You forgot Calderon.

Posted by: vivabush04OH | July 12, 2006 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Republicans will win b/c we have more $$$$$!!!

How much dirty lobbyi$t and Jack Abramoff money doe$ Zack Space have? Haha!! Bob Ney has TONS of $$$$ from lobbyi$t$ and Abramoff! $orry Dim$ you lo$e again!!

How much $$$$$$ doe$ $herrod Brown have!! LOL!! - b/c I am $ure that he ha$ not had George Bu$h and Dick Cheney do $1 million fundrai$er$ for him in the dead of night like Dewine ha$!!!! Hahaha Dims lose!

$orry Dim$ but you will lo$e as alway$ b/c we republican$ are more corrupt than any political party at any point in history and we $ell the U.$. government to the highe$t bidder and therefore have much much much much more $$$$$$$ from the Abramoff$, Big Pharm and Big Oil than you do and that is all that matters lol lol!!!!


Posted by: VivianBushBlackwellDewineNeyCheney06 | July 11, 2006 11:33 PM | Report abuse

Nice RMill.
How much $ will Space have?

One thing we GOPs have learned since the 2000 Bush campaign is a page from the Dem GOTV playbook.

Case in point, I am proud of the high school students I personally drove through the rural areas in 2004 knocking on doors in Lorain county for President Bush.
It is that kind of enthusiasm we have cultivated for GOTV all over Ohio.

You came at us again last year under the guise of RON and we squashed you.

Our troops are gearing up to GOTV the last 72 hours of the November election.

Remember that scene from Patton, "Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book."

Posted by: VivaBush04OH | July 11, 2006 9:15 PM | Report abuse

No polls but analyzing election results from 2004 and 2006 shows some interesting trends.

Ney won in 2004 with 66%.

Ney received about 11,000 less votes than 2004 Primary. He was unopposed then.

Space is from Tuscarawas, the biggest prize in the District. He received nearly 3000 more primary votes than Ney, even with three opponents.

Ney also took a big hit in Knox County in the primary.

Space will win Athens County by a much larger margin than the Dem did in 2004.

Taking all into account (drop off in vote totals because not a Presidential year) and poor primary performance by Ney and Space's base in Tuscarawas; anywhere from 233,000 to 285,000 votes will be cast in the district.

Ney will gain 124,000-146,000 votes and Space will get 109,000 -139,000 votes.

Median 264,000 votes cast
Space 132,762
Ney 131,338

Higher turnout will favor Ney the incumbant.

Just a quick down and dirty analysis.

Posted by: RMill | July 11, 2006 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Whatever it takes to win, right VivaBush?

Posted by: Vivafreedom | July 11, 2006 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Can't be too slow, given all the hits and comments here.

Joy, Joanne?, all I know it comes out to WINNER.


Posted by: vivabush04oh | July 11, 2006 3:49 PM | Report abuse


A poll conducted by a republican pollster for an incumbent republican shows the republican in the lead, despite the republican being fingered for corruption in five seperate plea deals. I'm sure this poll is very legit.

Must be a slow news day for this to warrant an entire thread of it's own.

Posted by: Ohio guy | July 11, 2006 3:37 PM | Report abuse


I think you mean State Sen. Joy Padgett.

Posted by: RMill | July 11, 2006 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Sorry CC- I was going to save this for Parsing the Polls.

In reviewing state by state polling by various firms in the 2004 Presidential race, I set up a quick scoring system to judge accuracy.

Taking the final poll done by each firm in a state and matching with actual results, I scored 1 pt for each correct call of the state, 3 pts for the exact margin of victory/1 pt if within margin of error (3%) and 3 pts for calling the candidate vote total by exacft percentage / 1 pt. within MoE.

I also tracked misses (states called incorrectly) and quality picks (where the state was called and the margin and candidate percentages were all within the MoE). No points were awarded for misses:


ARG (American Research Group)
44 states polled
131 pts. (avg. 2.997)
5 misses (11.36%)
10 quality picks (22.73%)

10 states
19 pts. (avg. 1.9)
4 misses (40%)
2 quality picks (20%)

Mason Dixon
21 states
92 pts. (avg. 4.381)
1 miss (4.76%)
7 quality picks (33.33%)

5 states
11 pts. (avg. 2.2)
1 miss (20%)
0 quality picks (0%)

30 states
101 pts. (avg. 3.367)
1 miss (3.33%)
13 quality picks (43.33%)

Research 2000
11 states
39 pts. (avg. 3.545)
0 misses (0.0%)
6 quality picks (54.55%)

Strategic Vision
11 states
24 pts. (avg. 2.182)
4 misses (36.36%)
3 quality picks (27.27%)

Survey USA
30 states
116 pts. (avg. 3.867)
1 miss (3.33%)
16 quality picks (53.33%)

20 states
55 pts. (avg. 2.75)
3 misses (15%)
6 quality picks (30%)
1 perfect call- Missouri

The state by state polling data was compiled at:

The point system may be worthless as I just concocted it myself but it allows a comparison since all firms did not poll in all states.

As far as accuracy, Mason Dixon, Rasmussen and Survey USA came away with only 1 miss and had the most net quality picks minus misses.

Posted by: RMill | July 11, 2006 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Unless Ney gets indicted and stays on the ballot, Space has no chance here for 2 reasons:
One, Ney outspends him 15-1.
Two, if does get indicted, Joann Padget replaces Ney and kicks butt.

Worse comes to worse, Viva goes down there and kicks butt.

Posted by: VIVABUSH04OH | July 11, 2006 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Isn't the rule that you take the average of the Dem and Rep numbers to get an accurate result?

If so, it is Space 45, Ney 41--a lead for Space, but hardly a comfortable one.

Posted by: Zathras | July 11, 2006 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Kidding, of course, with my last post, but it speaks to the hackery that abounds these days. Esp on this blog that is almost purely devoted to horserace journalism despite leaving out three of the top polling institutions. Politics is truly a game. Such is life in the 21st century.

Posted by: FairAndBalanced? | July 11, 2006 2:50 PM | Report abuse

RMill, why dont you just go ahead and make one up? Seems like thats pretty commonplace these days. And you're probably more qualified than some of these political "insider" pollsters that CC loves to reference.

Posted by: FairAndBalanced? | July 11, 2006 2:46 PM | Report abuse

I agree, Che, you really blew it. At least try to post one of your overly long scribes that's relevent.

That said, if the R candidate is only 4 points up in their own push poll, you know they're in severe trouble.

Posted by: Will in Seattle | July 11, 2006 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, I have neither seen nor head anything objective on this race. In a largely rural district, it is highly unlikely we will get decent poll numbers until the very end.

Posted by: RMill | July 11, 2006 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Ah, Rasmussen, yes, you are absolutely right. Thanks Peter!

Posted by: Political Junkie | July 11, 2006 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Hopefully RMill will contribute some objective data on this race soon. Candidates' polls are about as valid as politicians' memoirs are true.

Posted by: Nor'Easter | July 11, 2006 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Political Junkie - I believe you're thinking of Rasmussen Reports.

Posted by: peter | July 11, 2006 1:51 PM | Report abuse

My cynical Muse is laughing about thie entire situation.

Being from Chicago, we know it's who controls the ballot box (physically as well as politically) who determines the outcome of the Election. The Ohio Repbulicans demonstrated that they are very adept at this.

Ohio needs international poll monitors and some guarantee that polls in minority areas will even open on voting day. I don't things have changed much since 200 and 2004.

We all know how it goes. "Thems that got the gold calls the shots". And Vote early and Vote Often.

My Cynical very democratic Muse says Ohio stays Red.

Posted by: everyman | July 11, 2006 1:41 PM | Report abuse


Quit puttin' that stuff on here. That has nothing to do with the topic.

I hate polls, Chris is right, we ain't gonna know until election day. Although I remember from the past two presidential election cycles, there was one organization that nailed it (or came awfully close) to the actual numbers in each state. Does anybody know? Was it Mason Dixon?

Posted by: Political Junkie | July 11, 2006 1:16 PM | Report abuse

che - it's fricking rude to hijack the comments with an off-topic, incredibly long and largely useless piece.

chris - a Democratic poll has a challenger up double digits, and the INCUMBENT Republican has a poll with a statistical tie. Sounds like the two polls average out to a slight lead for Space.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2006 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Ney leads in a GOP poll? SHOCKER.

With no link to the poll provided by Crispy Cilliza? DOUBLE-SHOCKER.

Posted by: FairAndBalanced? | July 11, 2006 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Curious that Ney touts a four point lead as "good news" for a House incumbent.

Posted by: Intrepid Liberal Journal | July 11, 2006 1:03 PM | Report abuse

For uncensored news please go to:

Bring me the head of "Kenny Boy" Lay: Another convenient death invites new investigations of Enron-Bush crimes

By Larry Chin
Kenneth Lay, world-class Enron criminal, long-time Bush family friend and crime ally, was pronounced dead on July 5, allegedly of a heart-related condition.

Lay's name can now be added to the list of dubious Enron-related deaths, which include the alleged 2002 shotgun suicide of Enron Vice Chairman Clifford Baxter (also see analysis here, and here).

Lay's hasty exit, which comes as he faced 45 years of prison for conspiracy and fraud charges (the barest tip of the iceberg of his true crimes), has sparked rampant speculation. Initial mainstream reports on the cause of death have been confusing at best: "heart attack," "heart failure," and "heart disease" are distinct and different conditions.

Lay, who was reportedly depressed and embittered, has now been conveniently removed before receiving punishment (elite criminals rarely get what they deserve). Charges against Lay and his estate may be conveniently tossed (leaving his squirreled assets available for new uses). The Bush administration, and Congress, is conveniently protected from any possibility of a damning testimony or revelation.

Lay's supposed demise, however interesting, is ultimately irrelevant. Far more important is the fact that Enron is still an open criminal case: the true crimes of Enron remain unaddressed.

More importantly, the apparatus that Ken Lay and Enron set into motion is alive and well. It still shapes the fabric of daily geopolitical life.

Ken Lay's living legacy in our faces

Lay, affectionately named "Kenny Boy" by the Bushes themselves, has in recent years gone from a leading Bush policy architect to the family's number one persona non grata. From a Wall Street darling, to a pariah and the poster child of malfeasance, shunned by those whose pockets he once lined.

His public treatment notwithstanding, the Bush administration, and the New World Order's inner circle, must privately worship Lay for the way he wielded Enron as a geostrategic weapon of mass destruction. Consider what Lay has left the world:

1. Lay and Enron not only helped create the Bush administration's energy and war policies; it brought them nightmarishly to life, in every corner of the planet. Ken Lay's fingerprints can be found, today, in every resource-rich hot spot that Enron infiltrated and conquered, from Central Asia and India, to Colombia and the Far East. The invasions and occupations of Afghanistan and Iraq, as well as plans to control domestic energy supplies and prices (and the lives of Americans) are a direct result of Ken Lay's machinations.

Dick Cheney's Energy Task Force, the infamous and secret US National Energy Policy Development Group (NEPDG), the probable "rosetta stone" of 9/11 that documents the motives behind the Bush administration's world energy conquest, has remained the subject of intensive and illegal stonewalling. Ken Lay was there: official memos have amply documented Lay's direct links to Cheney and Cheney's energy plan.

2. The practices pioneered by Enron and pushed to spectacular and creative extremes -- financial fraud, pro-forma accounting, money laundering, offshore funneling of illegal monies, shell companies, "off the books" transactions, energy gaming, etc. -- continue to be quietly used by corporations everywhere. It is business as usual on Wall Street.

3. Globalization, the brand epitomized by Enron, thrives. Multinational corporations continue to function as quasi-military-intelligence arms of the US, and other allied predatory governments, working alongside the intelligence agencies and militaries themselves. Witness the operations of Halliburton, DynCorp and AIG.

4. The financial institutions, banks and investment houses that assisted Enron in its schemes, domiciled in the US as well as offshore, continue to feed like engorged tapeworms from trillions of dollars of looted funds. Perhaps you still bank with one of these institutions. Perhaps your pension fund is under the control of one of them now. You can thank Ken Lay for that.

5. The manipulation of energy and the fleecing of consumers also continue to this day, in more shaded and sophisticated forms, as does "deregulation." The occasional cries of foul from certain politicians in victimized regions has changed nothing. As energy prices soar, as Peak Oil and Gas makes itself felt in earnest, and new "energy crises" erupt, the ghost of Ken Lay will be there, grinning. He -- it -- still presides over this nation's energy grids and energy trader's "gaming" rooms.

6. Enron is not dead and buried, any more than BCCI was ever destroyed. There is no cause for celebration. The Enron corporation itself even lives on (as does BCCI) in the form of renamed, acquired and merged entities.

The Enron players hiding in plain sight

Legions of politicians fed at Enron's trough, Republicans and Democrats alike. The same members of Congress who received fat Enron checks are still in Washington.

The George W. Bush administration, that Enron helped install and push into power, has two more years to expand its world war, seize remaining energy supplies, squeeze profits from Peak Oil for their own constituents, and deepen the militarization of the United States.

Arnold Schwarzenegger is the governor of California. His direct Enron connections scarcely mentioned, or even acknowledged. He will likely be re-elected (or re-selected) this fall, continuing the Republican plunder of California -- not ironically the target of Enron's first crimes in 2000.

The former chairman of Enron's finance committee, Herbert "Pug" Winokur, the wolf in the Enron fold, is still out there, untouched. As noted by Michael C. Ruppert in Crossing The Rubicon: The Decline of the American Empire at the End of the Age of Oil:

"Aside from playing a major role in the looting of Russia, Harvard University also seems to have deep connections into the domestic economy of crime. Catherine Austin Fitts connected the dots in a 2002 article which told us that not only had Winokur chaired the Enron finance committee and escaped federal scrutiny, he was also a lead investor in, and creator of, a company called DynCorp (now CSC-DynCorp) that has lucrative vaccine and biowarfare contracts . . .

"So ubiquitous is DynCorp that we will see its hands all over the map in connection with 9/11 and the ruling of America. DynCorp is everywhere. It manages the Congressional telephone system. Along with Lockheed-Martin, it does the computerized bookkeeping for a dozen federal agencies including the DoD and HUD, which have lost (or allowed to be stolen) trillions of taxpayer dollars. It also has a contract to manage the police and court systems in US-occupied Iraq.

"Winokur's connections to Enron, DynCorp and the Harvard Endowment (which during the Clinton years saw its assets increase from $3 billion to $19 billion) demonstrate that quite often the key players escape mainstream scrutiny altogether . . . Among other revelations were the facts that Harvard had made direct financial investments bailing out an ailing Harken Energy Corporation, then run by George W. Bush, and that, through its investment arm, Highfields Capital, it had dumped large quantities of Enron stock just before it crashed: insider trading at its best. " There is no doubt that "Kenny Boy" Lay, the founder of Enron, was there every step of the way with "Pug."

Where, indeed, are the trillions of missing taxpayer dollars that were bilked by Enron?

For the rest of this article go to the link above.

Posted by: che | July 11, 2006 12:43 PM | Report abuse

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