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The Politics of the Joe Wilson Vote



South Carolina Rep. Joe Wilson was formally rebuked by the House on Tuesday. AP Photo/Harry Hamburg

The vote taken Tuesday to formally rebuke Rep. Joe Wilson (R-S.C.) for his now infamous "You lie" outburst during President Barack Obama's address to a joint session of Congress proved -- yet again -- that politics is at work in everything.

The vote -- 240 "yeas", 179 "nays" -- was very nearly a straight party-line affair.

But, 12 Democrats and seven Republicans bucked their respective parties and it's worth examining why.

As always, there are a variety of reasons for why individual members buck the party line -- personal relationships (or lack thereof), maverick personas etc -- but the largest concern is almost always their own political futures.

A look at the dozen Democrats who voted against a formal rebuke of Wilson proves that point.

Here's the list: Reps. Mike Arcuri (N.Y.), Bill Delahunt (Mass.), Gabrielle Giffords (Ariz.), Maurice Hinchey (N.Y.), Paul Hodes (N.H.), Dennis Kucinich (Ohio), Dan Maffei (N.Y.), Eric Massa (N.Y.), Jim McDermott (Wash.), Gwen Moore (Wisc.), Gene Taylor (Miss.) and Harry Teague (N.M.).

Of that dozen, half either represent districts with Republican underpinnings or are running statewide in swing states in 2010. (A seventh -- Taylor -- holds a very Republican district on Mississippi's Gulf Coast but is in no danger of losing the seat and, therefore, doesn't make the cut.)

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) carried the districts of Teague (50 percent), Giffords (52 percent) and Massa (51 percent) last November, and narrowly lost Arcuri's district (48 percent). Maffei's seat, where Obama took 56 percent, had long been held by a Republican and the GOP believes it can take it back in 2010.

Hodes, who represents the Democratic-tilting 2nd district in New Hampshire, is the near-certain nominee for the open Senate seat in 2010 in a state that has swung back and forth between the two parties at the presidential level for much of the last decade. (Democrats carried it in 2008 and 2004 while Republicans won it in 2000.)

The political considerations of the Wilson vote were also evident in the Republican defections. Rep. Joseph Cao (R-La.) had to vote in favor of the rebuke given that his New Orleans-area district voted 75 percent for Obama in 2008. Reps. Tom Petri (R-Wisc.) and Reps. Dana Rohrabacher (R-Calif.) were likely playing it safe with their "yea" vote; Obama carried Petri's seat with 50 percent in 2008 while he narrowly lost Rohrabacher's district.

Given the amount of media attention Wilson's outburst has drawn and the level of passion it has stoked among the bases of both parties, it's not surprising that Members who sit in vulnerable districts tread very lightly on the issue. For members that are certain 2010 targets, they don't want to hand their opponents an issue; for those who sit in competitive districts but aren't yet targeted, they don't want to give stir up a hornet's nest unnecessarily.

The Wilson vote serves as a reminder that there are politics everywhere -- you just have know where to look for it.

By Chris Cillizza  |  September 16, 2009; 1:30 PM ET
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Joe Wilson picked the wrong place to make his point but may become a big hero in the end as Barack Hussein Obama II is an expert liar. He has lied about where he was born denying that his grandma told the truth when she said she was present at his birth at Coast Provincial General Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya. His birth certificate from that hospital shows he was 18 inches long and 6 inches across his shoulders at birth with a weight of 7 pounds and one ounce. Obama lies about his 20 year relationship with Rev Jeremiah Wright stating he did not hear or agree with Rev Wright's views on America which made America the enemy of the world. Yes, Obama has a lot to explain when his trial begins in Santa Ana, California Federal Court in January on whether he is an American citizen born in the USA.

Posted by: mascmen7 | September 19, 2009 1:02 PM | Report abuse

nodebris, you are funny, painful and right.

wunderbear, I am going to add "all preseidents lie" to Jake's "water isn't wet." They are two of a kind when it comes to equivocation.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | September 17, 2009 1:24 PM | Report abuse

"To pass a resolution against telling the truth"

That comment is pure foolishness. The sanction was for being rude.

Wilson can tell the truth as much as he wants, but if he yells at people in public that they are fat or ugly, he is being rude, and when he yells a similar comment in the middle of a presidential address he is be exceptionally rude and deserves sanction.

Posted by: nodebris | September 17, 2009 12:11 PM | Report abuse

The choice is clear, term limits or tyrants.
Another idea would be to make it illegal for any lawmaker or politician to have contact with a lobbyist. A separate panel of people to review the benefits of drugs and products that corporate America is selling. And then presents them to the lawmakers at a designated time on C-Span for the world to see.
0 tax deductions for campaign donations with no exceptions.
Truth and Balance in political talk radio and T.V.. No more vertical fair and balanced. No more all partisan broadcasting and manipulating.
Limit corporate media ownership and broadcasting.
Everyone knows that Wilson made a mockery out of our government.
America is now the joke of the world. This is what the republican party has done for America. Their party vote refuses to cooperate. Their policies are responsible for the national debt, the condition of the country and the world. The wars and the terrorist are a direct result of the republican policies. You want progress in America and the world? Stable oil and gas prices? Don't vote republican...

Posted by: kimkimminni1 | September 17, 2009 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Last I checked when I opened my mouth; I didn't talk with my skin color.
To tell a President he lies is an oxymoron. ALL PRESIDENTS LIE! Always have and always will.
To pass a resolution against telling the truth takes the OXY out of Congress who are then truly revealed as the millionaire morons they always have been....oh; and by the way; money and brains don't necessarily walk hand in hand; but with Congress they walk hand in our pockets!
So the resolution now makes critisism of our President unacceptable....who says communism is dead?

Posted by: wonderbear | September 17, 2009 10:35 AM | Report abuse

"So who's the real RACIST ?"

Wait a minute. Black people have been voting for whites for as long as white people have let them vote, and you get to say they are being racist.

But *you* want a big pat on the back and immunity from charges of racism because you voted *once* for a mixed race gentleman for president -- when the alternative was a clearly incompetent septuagenarian espousing a clearly failed economic theory?

Do you see the imbalance there, at all, just a little, maybe?

You don't think you're racist because you voted once out of desperation for the half-black Obama? Well, by that standard it's absolutely impossible for black people to be racist because almost all of them voted for Kerry, Gore, Clinton, etc., etc -- all of them 100% white.

"So who's the real RACIST?" I don't know, but I'd stop talking the way you are if you want to convince people that you judge everyone by the same measure.

Posted by: nodebris | September 17, 2009 12:37 AM | Report abuse

Some blacks think that anytime a white person says no or disagrees with them it's because they're black & a racist. Some blacks use the word "Racist" to their own advantage, it's like they blackmail whites over their race. Before you call me a racist, I voted for Obama, not because he was black, because at the time I thought he'd do a better job. Keep in mind, white people made Obama President. More blacks than whites are using the race issue now ... So who's the real RACIST ?

Posted by: wasaUFO | September 16, 2009 11:56 PM | Report abuse

http://robparis.blogspot.com/2009/09/you-distract.html

Now Wilson must be aware that he was a bad boy. Rather than formally disapproving of Wilson, why not send him to the corner for 15 minutes to think about what he did. Wilson was obviously aware that the Democrats disapproved of what he said, and that the Republicans didn't. That's why the vote went along party lines. I don't see the point of formally disapproving. If the resolution was to make a point, then they should have made a point. Instead, Democrats chose to stick his nose in it and make him sleep in the backyard.

Posted by: robparisblog | September 16, 2009 11:19 PM | Report abuse

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September 16, 2009

In the video here, San Diego cops promise they will not use LRAD (Long Range Acoustic Device) against demonstrators. If that is the case, why was the device placed at a town hall meeting in San Diego?

http://www.examiner.com/x-22950-San-Diego-Law-Enforcement-Examiner~y2009m9d12-San-Diego-Sheriff-Gore-deploys-military-sonic-LRAD-area-denial-weapons-at-political-meetings

Posted by: AJAX2 | September 16, 2009 9:45 PM | Report abuse

I'm more interested in the votes that weren't pure political calculation, e.g. Dennis Kucinich. Now where did that come from? Interesting vote.

As to JakeD's efforts to drum up more donations for Wilson (to keep up with the steady flow to his opponent, Miller, via www.actblue.com -- both guys are now well over a million dollars each, all due to Miller's boorish behavior)... I'm honestly beginning to wonder whether that money on both sides might be more wisely donated to another race.

It's been fun, but it's getting a little silly. Both fellows in that race now can have all the drivers and comfy hotel rooms they want and they won't be trading money in the budget between yard signs and bumper stickers this time next year. If you have money to give, you may want to look at races where a candidate you favor could do far better with just a little more dough. Then, perhaps, send your $10 to that person. Just a thought.

Posted by: fairfaxvoter | September 16, 2009 9:28 PM | Report abuse

GOP PROVED MANY TIMES THAT THEY ARE WORSE THAN K.K.K. & SHOULD BE ERASED, OR THE COUNTRY IS DOOMED.

Posted by: mtavro | September 16, 2009 9:07 PM | Report abuse

Donate here:

https://www.completecampaigns.com/public.asp?name=Wilson&page=2

If you prefer to mail a check the old fashioned way:

Joe Wilson for Congress
P.O. Box 2145
West Columbia, SC 29171

Posted by: JakeD | September 16, 2009 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Oh Kay Kay Kay, Wilson's 15 minutes are up.

Posted by: whocares666 | September 16, 2009 8:39 PM | Report abuse

You people here who are saying that anyone who criticise President Obama are racist are so full of BS it's not even funny. It is only you racist who believe that. NO ONE has said that you can't criticize President Obama. However criticizing, complaining, whining, bi!ching and moaning over EVERYTHING is a little much. Calling him Nazi, Hitler a witch doctor. The signs we saw at the 9/12 thingy, all the negativity, the comments on the various blogs, the hate speech daily from right wing radio and on and on and on leads one to believe it is racist plain and simple. Deny all you want and try to justify the horrible behavior but people in this country and all over the world see it for what it is. Racist will never admit when they are wrong, they never accept responsibility for what they are doing. They try to project their feelings on someone else. They are cowards.

Posted by: catmomtx | September 16, 2009 8:24 PM | Report abuse

Thanks to Jimmy Carter for spelling out the Democrat's position on criticizing Obama's policies. The Democrat party has now acknowledged that any criticism of Obama's policies by any non African-American is racist. Carter, however, forgot to include racist remarks by his fellow Democrats. Here are just a few examples of those remarks:

"The Confederate Memorial has had a special place in my life for many years. . . . There were many, many times that I found myself drawn to this deeply inspiring memorial, to contemplate the sacrifices of others, several of whom were my ancestors, whose enormous suffering and collective gallantry are to this day still misunderstood by most Americans."
--James Webb, 1990
Now a Democratic Senator from Virginia

"Everybody likes to go to Geneva. I used to do it for the Law of the Sea conferences and you'd find these potentates from down in Africa, you know, rather than eating each other, they'd just come up and get a good square meal in Geneva."
--Sen. Ernest F. Hollings (D., S.C.) 1993
Chairman, Commerce Committee, 1987-95 and 2001-03
Candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination, 1984

"I do not think it is an exaggeration at all to say to my friend from West Virginia [Sen. Robert C. Byrd, a former Ku Klux Klan recruiter] that he would have been a great senator at any moment. . . . He would have been right during the great conflict of civil war in this nation."
--Sen. Christopher Dodd (D., Conn.), 2004
Chairman, Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs
Candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination, 2008

"You cannot go into a Dunkin' Donuts or a 7-Eleven unless you have a slight Indian accent."
"My state was a slave state. My state is a border state. My state has the eighth largest black population in the country. My state is anything [but] a Northeastern liberal state."
"I mean, you got the first mainstream African American [Barack Obama] who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice looking guy."

"There's less than 1% of the population of Iowa that is African American. There is probably less than 4% or 5% that is, are minorities. What is it in Washington? So look, it goes back to what you start off with, what you're dealing with."
Sen. Joseph Biden Jr., (D., Del.), 2006-07

"In the name of the greatest people that have ever trod this earth, I draw the line in the dust and toss the gauntlet before the feet of tyranny, and I say segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever."
Governor George Wallace, (D., Alabama), 1963

Posted by: Dodgers1 | September 16, 2009 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Ask and ye shall receive (from MoDo, no less ; )

Rep. Joe Wilson (R-SC) has raised more than $2 MILLION.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/16/opinion/16dowd.html?em

Donate here:

https://www.completecampaigns.com/public.asp?name=Wilson&page=2

If you prefer to mail a check the old fashioned way:

Joe Wilson for Congress
P.O. Box 2145
West Columbia, SC 29171

Posted by: JakeD | September 16, 2009 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Chris,

The idea that this irrational hatred which is spreading like a plague could be racially motivated sickens me. And yet, as a reasonably intelligent person I cannot help but admit that it was the first idea that crossed my mind when this Joe Wilson business started.

In fact, it had occurred to me even before that during the 'Tea Party' nonsense. This is a president who has been in office a bare 8 months, has not swung the country wildly to the left (less so, in fact, than GWB swung it to the right).

So the only conclusion is that a proportion of the minority feels that a person of colour--and a democrat to boot--is simply not 'worthy' of occupying the White House. It's a revolting thought, but it's inescapable.

There's simply no other explanation for the incredible streams of vitriol these people (including some on this blog) have been spewing.

Posted by: sverigegrabb | September 16, 2009 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Back on topic:

Can wait to see what happens the next time a Democratic Congressman (or -woman) speaks out to a Republican President. I would also like to see updated fundraising totals for Rep. Wilson (R-SC) and his opponent since the House vote.

Posted by: JakeD | September 16, 2009 6:51 PM | Report abuse

drindl,

I wrote this to you yesterday:

Earlier, drindl inquired...

kingofzouk -- now there's a case for you. someone who spends every day of their life, every minute of every day, posting frantic gibberish on blogs, even though he knows everyone else on the blogs thinks he is a moron.

What sort of disorder is that? Some sort of schizophrenia? Mania? There doesn't seem to be a down stage though, it's all maniac behavior."

First, there is such a thing as dysphoric mania, a mania fueled narcissistic rage; it can be quite dangerous when directed at the people who fail to appreciate the true brilliance and the special nature of the person suffering with the disorder.

But no, severe, persistent mental illness is unlikely to drive all but that precious one of The Fix regulars.

In the case of zouk, the premise is false, he does not know that we all think he is a moron. He thinks he is smart and he thinks he is educating the morons. He believes he is doing us a favor, cutting and pasting, endlessly repeating himself - it is hard work you know. Trust me, he thinks he is winning the battle of ideas, good versus evil, all that.

Remember how baffled the Shrub was with how complicated reality turned out to be? Reagan never had to worry about that, too demented to even bother with assembling facts.

When your ideas, your choices don't have any consequences, you can remain really stupid and still think you are the smart one. On The Internets, there is no cold light of dawn.

Involuntary learning requires a "corrective emotional experience", the internet has no such power. This is its greatest problem, I believe.

Posted by: shrink2 | September 16, 2009 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Pulling back from this being "politics," can we also say that each of these Representatives is, well, representing their constituents? You know, they're voting the way the people in their district would vote if they all could vote?

Except maybe for Kucinich. I'll bet he has a very interesting philosophical reason for voting "Nay."

Posted by: dognabbit | September 16, 2009 5:23 PM | Report abuse

I would feel sorry for them, shrink, if i didn't have to live in the same country as a bunch of psychotics.

What's your diagnosis of zoukofzouk/snobama? Narcisisstic Personality Disorder?

Posted by: drindl | September 16, 2009 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Who is this "we" who would reject the bill regardless?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Over 70% now. Welcome to the loud minority.

==

Is that how things are polling in your ward?

When you get your monthly 1:1 with your doctor you can tell him all about how much you hate Obama.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | September 16, 2009 5:00 PM | Report abuse

14 minutes 47 seconds, 14 minutes 48 seconds, 14 minutes 49 seconds . . .

Posted by: nodebris | September 16, 2009 5:00 PM | Report abuse

"To be precise, 18% of self-identified conservatives affirmatively say that Obama is the anti-Christ, with 17% not sure. Among the self-identified Republican label, it's 14% who say Obama has the number 666 hidden underneath his hair, plus 15% who aren't sure."

You have to feel sorry for the not sure people.

If you had to go to bed every night wondering whether Barak Obama were the Antichrist, I'd say no amount of Lunesta butterflies could make you wake up with your makeup perfect, sporting a gleaming smile.

Posted by: shrink2 | September 16, 2009 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Who is this "we" who would reject the bill regardless?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Over 70% now. Welcome to the loud minority.

Posted by: snowbama | September 16, 2009 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Who is this "we" who would reject the bill regardless?

Republican poor whites slavishly looking out for wealthy corporations? Why exactly is this pitiable minority relevant?

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | September 16, 2009 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Liberals spent the last 8 years complaining that any complaint of Bush made them unpatriotic even though most relevant people never said it-but somehow now any criticism of Obama makes you a racist? Don't you see your double standard? You don't have to agree with what others say-hell you don't have to like them, but keep arguments to the topic at hand. It doesn't matter what ethnicity, gender, or sexual orientation the person pushing this bill is because we would still reject this bill

Posted by: TexasProud1 | September 16, 2009 4:25 PM | Report abuse

You can see the actual court order here.
http://www.wtvm.com/Global/story.asp?S=11141631

Posted by: hayden1 | September 16, 2009 4:03 PM | Report abuse

!!!!!THIS JUST IN!!!!!

http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/news/breaking_news/story/841419.html

"U.S. District Court Judge Clay Land tossed out on Wednesday a complaint by an Army captain fighting deployment to Iraq by questioning the legitimacy of President Barack Obama.

Land also put attorney Orly Taitz, who represents Capt. Connie Rhodes and is a leader in the national “birther” movement, on notice by stating that she could face sanctions if she ever again files in his court a similar “frivolous” lawsuit — a document that at one point the judge states that a middle school student could find irony in.

“(Rhodes) has presented no credible evidence and has made no reliable factual allegations to support her unsubstantiated, conclusory allegations and conjecture that President Obama is ineligible to serve as president of the United States,” Land states in his order. “Instead, she uses her complaint as a platform for spouting political rhetoric, such as her claims that the president is ‘an illegal usurper, an unlawful pretender, [and] an unqualified imposter.’”

Posted by: hayden1 | September 16, 2009 3:57 PM | Report abuse

THIS JUST IN

http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/news/breaking_news/story/841419.html

"U.S. District Court Judge Clay Land tossed out on Wednesday a complaint by an Army captain fighting deployment to Iraq by questioning the legitimacy of President Barack Obama.

Land also put attorney Orly Taitz, who represents Capt. Connie Rhodes and is a leader in the national “birther” movement, on notice by stating that she could face sanctions if she ever again files in his court a similar “frivolous” lawsuit — a document that at one point the judge states that a middle school student could find irony in.

“(Rhodes) has presented no credible evidence and has made no reliable factual allegations to support her unsubstantiated, conclusory allegations and conjecture that President Obama is ineligible to serve as president of the United States,” Land states in his order. “Instead, she uses her complaint as a platform for spouting political rhetoric, such as her claims that the president is ‘an illegal usurper, an unlawful pretender, [and] an unqualified imposter.’”

Posted by: hayden1 | September 16, 2009 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Wilson's supporters think that rules only apply to Democrats.

Posted by: drindl | September 16, 2009 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Whatever. It's boring. This guy got his fifteen minutes and will be forever be known the Lie Guy. His contribution to this country -- rudeness.

Meanwhile, back at the crazy farm:

My home state of New Jersey is one crazy place, according to the new survey of the state by Public Policy Polling.

Dave Weigel points out that one out of every three New Jersey conservatives think that Obama could be the anti-Christ. To be precise, 18% of self-identified conservatives affirmatively say that Obama is the anti-Christ, with 17% not sure. Among the self-identified Republican label, it's 14% who say Obama has the number 666 hidden underneath his hair, plus 15% who aren't sure.

It turns out that 33% of New Jersey Republicans say that Obama was not born in the United States, plus 19% in the Birther-Curious undecided category."

The Anti-Christ. Nothing racist in that.

Posted by: drindl | September 16, 2009 3:29 PM | Report abuse

drindl,

I agree that Obama's speech was factual, and Wilson was incorrect (as well as rude) to say he was lying.

But my point was, it doesn't matter who was lying. The rules of the House prohibit a member from calling the President a liar. Period. They also prohibit them from disruptive outbursts. Wilson broke those rules, and should have apologized to the House when he took the floor Monday.

Wilson's supporters argue that he was just speaking truth to power. I think not. But that's not the point. Wilson was free to express his opinion anywhere EXCEPT on the floor of the chamber.

Posted by: mikeinmidland | September 16, 2009 3:27 PM | Report abuse

We live in a practical world. These guys wanna keep their jobs.

Posted by: Auburninbp | September 16, 2009 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Bringing this to the floor was poor leadership on the part of House Democrats. There was nothing new to be gained from the censure and a little to be gained by ignoring Wilson. He's a weasely schoolyard bully who probably apologised contritely to Obama and then spent the next few days strutting around the sandbox like a big shot.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | September 16, 2009 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Although the Demos had the rules on their side, in the end, the censure was much to do about nothing. In my opinion, the Demos would have aided their cause more by just dropping the matter.

I still don't understand the racist element of the two words you and lie.

I don't support Obama or Obamacare.

Posted by: Auburninbp | September 16, 2009 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Sure its pretty obvious that politics are involved in the vote. Even more obvious is that we elect these jerks and most of them have no clue about representing us. They are off in their own political fantasy.

Posted by: justamaz | September 16, 2009 2:59 PM | Report abuse

As you say, mike, joe has a right to his opinion. But Obama, did not lie, which makes Joe Wilson a liar, as well as an infantile boor.

Posted by: drindl | September 16, 2009 2:55 PM | Report abuse

So Joked's beloved Rep. Cao voted for the rebuke. As joked would say, ROFLOL!!

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | September 16, 2009 2:50 PM | Report abuse

I think it was a waste of time, and unnecessarily made a martyr out of a back-bench Thurmond wannabe. Joe Wilson has a right to his opinion. No one has a problem with calling a liar a liar.

However, Joe Wilson agreed to abide by House rules when he took his oath of office. He broke those rules. Given the opportunity to apologize (to the HOUSE) he declined to do so. Hence the resolution.

Posted by: mikeinmidland | September 16, 2009 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Just for the record... from Newsweek.com's "The Gaggle" blog:


Five other Dems voted “present” during the vote, including Rep. Barney Frank, who told reporters earlier Wednesday that he didn’t support the resolution. “I think it’s bad precedent to put us in charge of deciding whether people act like jerks,” Frank said. “I don’t have time to monitor everyone’s civility.”


***

ATTENTION AG HOLDER: Where is the DOJ Civil Rights investigation into the covert use of silent, harmful microwave and laser directed energy weapons on unjustly targeted Americans and their families by a Bush-legacy federal-local "multi-agency coordinated action program" that continues to commit civil and human rights violations under Team Obama?

http://nowpublic.com/world/gestapo-usa-govt-funded-vigilante-network-terrorizes-america OR http://NowPublic.com/scrivener RE: "GESTAPO USA"


Posted by: scrivener50 | September 16, 2009 2:02 PM | Report abuse

It is simple. It is no longer acceptable to call a liar a liar. to point out a corrupt organization. To reveal a pols misstress and love child. to broadcast a czars past.

this is the new era of transparancy.

Posted by: snowbama | September 16, 2009 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Good God why even discuss this. Wilson is a jerk. Some of his party chose advantage over principle. Knock me over with a feather.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | September 16, 2009 1:48 PM | Report abuse

This is kind of meaningless if you don't compare it to the political situations of those who DID vote party line. For the Dems, you have a miniscule 12 person group and the politics applies to only half of them.

Posted by: DDAWD | September 16, 2009 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Kucinich?

Posted by: bsimon1 | September 16, 2009 1:42 PM | Report abuse

The Wilson vote serves as a reminder that there are politics everywhere -- you just have know where to look for it.

I know this is a Yogi B type joke, but I don't get it.

There are politics everywhere you look.
Yes. Funny? No.

Posted by: shrink2 | September 16, 2009 1:40 PM | Report abuse

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