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Live Fix: Health care, health care and cupcake rankings!

We spent an hour earlier today chatting online about life, the universe and everything with Fixistas from around the country.

(Don't follow the "Live Fix" chat? Never fear. There's still time. Check in every Friday from 11 am to noon.)

A few of our favorite questions and answers are below. The full transcript is here.

Q: Health Care
If the Tea Partiers keep up their nasty rhetoric and violence continues w/o the Repubs tamping it down, do you see this hurting the Repubs in November?

A: Chris Cillizza :

The last week has been the best week in recent memory for Democrats on the issue of health care.

Passing the bill finally allowed Obama and congressional Democrats to cast off the narrative that they simply coudn't get anything big done in Washington.

The protests and violence that have followed the vote haven't been particularly helpful to Republicans but I'm not sure they will ultimately be held accountable for it.

I think health care remains a real jump ball politically. Polls that came out just before the bill passed showed a majority of American opposed to it but data since passage has been more optimistic for Democrats.

Don't make the mistake of thinking that health care will define the 2010 elections. EVERY poll suggests that the economy and jobs will matter far more. Health care will be a part of the conversation but, at least today, it won't be the most important issue for most voters.

Q: New York, N.Y.

I hear good comments about the passionate speech that President Obama gave on health care last weekend. Should President Obama consider becoming more outspokenly passionate, and might voters better respond to him in this manner, than the more cautious speeches given prior?

A. Chris Cillizza

I think many of his advisers (and Democrats in Congress) would like to see him be more passionate and more populist.

The problem? Obama isn't like that by nature. He is more of an intellectual -- examining the problem clinically from all sides before making a decision.

Obama was at his most effective on health care when he was out on the stump for it over the past week -- and in his appearance in Iowa City yesterday.

The question is whether he can keep that sort of passion and rhetoric up for the next seven months. And, even if he can, does he want to?

Q: Sweet Tooth
So, had any good cupcakes lately? (this is not a metaphor)

A. Chris Cillizza

Thanks for the question.

Me, Charlie Fix and the Fix mother in law made a trek out to Fairfax last week to go to Cupcakes Actually.

The results were disappointing. The dipped cupcakes with ganache rocked but the rest were only so so.

I stand by my previous rankings:
1. Magnolia Bakery in NYC
2. Hello Cupcake
3. Baked and Wired
4. Lavender Moon
5. Gtown Cupcake

By Chris Cillizza  |  March 26, 2010; 3:00 PM ET
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See new thread for the latest smear attacks against the TEA Party.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 29, 2010 7:45 AM | Report abuse

Someone is skipping right over the last several GOP Conventions:

http://iphone.cbsnews.com/site?sid=cbsnews_ip&pid=sections.detail&storyId=640646&index=1

Not to mention the (in)famous 1968 Conventions.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 29, 2010 6:23 AM | Report abuse

Demographics are avatars of a change bigger than any bill contemplated by Obama or Congress. The week before the health care vote, The Times reported that births to Asian, black and Hispanic women accounted for 48 percent of all births in America in the 12 months ending in July 2008. By 2012, the next presidential election year, non-Hispanic white births will be in the minority. The Tea Party movement is virtually all white. The Republicans haven’t had a single African-American in the Senate or the House since 2003 and have had only three in total since 1935. Their anxieties about a rapidly changing America are well-grounded.If Congressional Republicans want to maintain a politburo-like homogeneity in opposition to the Democrats, that’s their right. If they want to replay the petulant Gingrich government shutdown of 1995 by boycotting hearings and, as John McCain has vowed , refusing to cooperate on any legislation, that’s their right too (and a political gift to the Democrats). But they can’t emulate the 1995 G.O.P. by remaining silent as mass hysteria, some of it encompassing armed militias, runs amok in their own precincts. We know the end of that story. And they can’t pretend that we’re talking about “isolated incidents” or a “fringe” utterly divorced from the G.O.P.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/28/opinion/28rich.html?hp

Posted by: Noacoler | March 29, 2010 2:33 AM | Report abuse

Political violence in the USA is a purely right-wing phenomenon to all but the most exacting scholars. Only the Weather Underground, two generations ago, is an exception in living memory.

I'd bet a month's salary that the incidents FB is reporting were done by Republicans, trying, as always, to manipulate perceptions because, as always, they are awash in self-pity when they're losing.

And right now they're losing like crazy.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 29, 2010 1:20 AM | Report abuse

For the record, drindl has indeed denied any such instances of left-wing violence (but I am the "stupid" one, yeah right).

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 29, 2010 1:15 AM | Report abuse

No, dear readers, it's not an act. He really IS this stupid.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 29, 2010 1:02 AM | Report abuse

FairlingtonBlade:

You'll find that those like drindl skip right over any instances of left-wing violence since that doesn't fit into their narrative.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 29, 2010 1:00 AM | Report abuse

Men who have sex with boys are not heterosexual (but, then, you knew that already, didn't you?).

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 29, 2010 12:52 AM | Report abuse

Ask not for whom the brick hurls, it hurls for thee.

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Bricks were thrown through windows of a Republican Party office in the Charlottesville area late last week in an act that seemed similar to incidents of political vandalism reported elsewhere.

The damage in Charlottesville was discovered Friday morning at the headquarters of the Albemarle County Republican Committee, committee vice chairman Eric Seitz said Sunday.

Seitz said two bricks came through windows at the party's offices on Albemarle Square on Thursday night or early Friday. A third damaged a window of an office used by Virginia Del. Robert B. Bell (R-Charlottesville) in the same building, Seitz said.

Seitz said the building's windows are made of "very thick" double-pane glass and probably required considerable force to smash.

Upon seeing the bricks inside, he said: "Wow. . . . Somebody was very angry."

County police confirmed that windows were broken. They said Sunday night that no arrests had been made.


Bricks had been used as paperweights for literature handed out at the polls, Seitz said. Subsequently, he said, they were stored outside the offices.

They were "our bricks," he said.

Instances of vandalism have been reported at Democratic Party and congressional offices since just before the vote last week on federal health-care legislation.

In Richmond, police said an investigation indicated that a bullet that hit an office used by Rep. Eric Cantor (R-Va.) March 23 was fired into the air at random. Officers said it broke the window on its way down.

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | March 29, 2010 12:52 AM | Report abuse

You should stick with the birth certificate thing, troll, because when it comes to creative insults you blow chunks. You think that pedophilia stuff finds any purchase with me? Nope. I f uck men, I love f ucking men, if you think gays like kids then you're an ignorant idiot.

Oh, wait, that's what you are anyway.

Newsflash, moron: pedophiles are overwhelmingly heterosexual. Look it up, troll.

Your kind of people.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 29, 2010 12:41 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 29, 2010 12:24 AM | Report abuse

(*guffaw*) too stupid even to come up with your own insults. Yeah Stanford Ph.D. Hahahahahah

Posted by: Noacoler | March 29, 2010 12:21 AM | Report abuse

You shut up, Ped.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 29, 2010 12:11 AM | Report abuse

Shut up, BURNOUT

Posted by: Noacoler | March 28, 2010 11:40 PM | Report abuse

Chris:


broadwayjoe's postings today are HATE SPEECH - complete with SEXUAL SLURS.


Specifically postings at 3:16 pm and 2:57 pm and 2:41 PM


broadwayjoe should be BANNED.


If these ATTACKS are not against the rules - what could be?


Why is broadwayjoe allowed to post SEXUAL SLURS ON A DAILY BASIS - WHEN RACIAL SLURS ARE NOT OK ???


SURELY IF BROADWAYJOE CAN CONTINUE TO USE SEXUAL SLURS, THE WASHINGTON POST MUST BE SAYING THE N-WORD IS OK NOW.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 28, 2010 11:24 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, you only beat me by seven points and neither of us did particularly good prognostication work here. I will win the million dollars some day.

Posted by: DDAWD | March 28, 2010 11:04 PM | Report abuse

"Damn you, shrink. Your bracket beat mine."

Well easy now, it is a good thing I am not religious. I know, you thought you were going to win. You were even encouraging me earlier, I shouldn't feel bad for blowing up, etc. And as our choices turned from black to red, I said anyone who wins was probably picking by colors, places they want to visit, funny names...but in the end,

dumb luck kissed me.

Posted by: shrink2 | March 28, 2010 10:48 PM | Report abuse

Wingnuts in prison ----> a coherent world

Posted by: Noacoler | March 28, 2010 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Well, sure enough, the nutbags are coming out of the woodwork:

'At least seven people, including some from Michigan, have been arrested in raids by a FBI-led Joint Terrorism Task Force in Michigan, Ohio and Indiana as part of an investigation into an Adrian-based Christian militia group, a person familiar with the matter said.

The suspects are expected to make an initial appearance in U.S. District Court in Detroit on Monday.

On Sunday, a source close to the investigation in Washington, D.C. confirmed that FBI agents were conducting activities in Washtenaw and Lenawee counties over the weekend in connection to Hutaree, a Christian militia group. Detroit FBI Special Agent Sandra Berchtold told The Detroit News the federal warrants in the case are under court seal and declined further comment.


Sources have said the FBI was in the second day of raids around the southeastern Michigan city of Adrian that are connected to a militia group, known as the Hutaree, an Adrian-based group whose members describe themselves as Christian soldiers preparing for the arrival and battle with the anti-Christ.

Mike Lackomar, of Michiganmilitia.com, said both The Southeast Michigan Volunteer Militia and the Michiganmilitia.com were not a part of the raid.

Lackomar said he heard from other militia members that the FBI targeted the Hutaree after its members made threats of violence against Islamic organizations.

"Last night and into today the FBI conducted a raid against homes belonging to the Hutaree. They are a religious cult. They are not part of our militia community," he said.'

"the militia community'. end report>>>>>>>>>

We have officially entered The Weird Times.


From The Detroit News: http://www.detnews.com/article/20100328/METRO/3280313/1361/FBI-raids-in-Michigan-may-involve-Christian-militia-group#ixzz0jWgBDhzR

Posted by: drindl | March 28, 2010 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Damn you, shrink. Your bracket beat mine. Both of us are maxed out.

Posted by: DDAWD | March 28, 2010 9:46 PM | Report abuse

The TEA Party is just the beginning of the end for Obama and the liberal Dems in D.C.

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jeez you live in a fantasy world.

The teabaggers are schisming the GOP and are from god as far as the Democrats are concerned. Teabagger-approved candidates are too extreme to win elections.

But carry on with the brainless defiance, it's seriously entertaining.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 28, 2010 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Lets look at whether Republican plutocrats or Democratic plutocrats have bought more seats.
Lets not. Buying elections is not business backgrounds working for candidates.

Posted by: shrink2 | March 28, 2010 9:21 PM | Report abuse

Hey! What a weekend.
Pouring now, but Spring is wonderful

Say Jake, we all make typos, you don't have to worry about that.

Sheesh, tonight Chris Cillizza is pimping Republicans buying elections. What an idiot. Anyone can buy an election.

Business backgrounds...backgrounds? Is that like, early childhood, the playground? Bloomberg, Arnold (Schwarzenegger is a little scary to type), Corzine...of course you can.

Rich people can buy elections,

Yes they can
Yes they can

Posted by: shrink2 | March 28, 2010 9:19 PM | Report abuse

usadblake:

Support.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 28, 2010 9:17 PM | Report abuse


Will you support or reject congressional candidates that run on a platform to repeal Health Care Reform? Vote

http://www.youpolls.com/default.asp

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Posted by: usadblake | March 28, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

37thand0street:

Most economists agreed that the unemployment numbers will not get better before the election -- it may even get worse if local governments start laying off large numbers -- hopefully, all of those people will vote. The TEA Party is just the beginning of the end for Obama and the liberal Dems in D.C.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 28, 2010 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Sen. Schumer's outrage when Bush made recess appointments:

"As the new year began, many of us had hoped the president would adopt a more bipartisan approach in his selection of judges," Schumer said in statement. "Instead, this recess appointment is a finger in the eye to all those seeking fairness and bipartisanship in the judicial nominations process."

Sen. Schumer's outrage when Obama made recess appointments:

Not so much.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 28, 2010 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Where you gonna get the votes?

Posted by: Noacoler | March 28, 2010 8:51 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 28, 2010 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Time to retake Congress and then the White House.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 28, 2010 8:46 PM | Report abuse

If anyone else wants to debate how "Social Security" is not in the Constitution but "national Defense" is, let me know.

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assuming just for laughs that you have an actual point, why don't you just come out with it instead of this backdoor non-response response seeking to imply you have a point?

Not that there's much of a chance you could actually put together an argument, of course.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 28, 2010 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Hoping that the recess appointments signal the end of the Bipartisanship Phase of Obama's presidency and the beginning of its Achievement Phase. Most encouraging to hear Republican obstructionism plainly acknowledged.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 28, 2010 8:40 PM | Report abuse

If anyone else wants to debate how "Social Security" is not in the Constitution but "national Defense" is, let me know.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 28, 2010 8:40 PM | Report abuse

Obama's health care program is going to PROLONG THE RECESSION.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 28, 2010 8:09 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, I saw that about Grassley. Republicans are going to find people like the law. That's why they went for broke in trying to block it.

Posted by: DDAWD | March 28, 2010 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Social Security is NOT "federal assistance" for those who paid in more than they got out. I call it highway robbery.

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Without so many corroborating posts in the past it would be hard to believe anyone could be as stupid as this. But there are all those other posts.

So when do I get a refund on the taxes I paid to employ a bunch of illiterates to invade Iraq?

Posted by: Noacoler | March 28, 2010 8:03 PM | Report abuse

shoots = shots (darn Spellchecker ; )

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 28, 2010 7:28 PM | Report abuse

The FBI is investigating 6 shoots fired outside a military housing unit, at Ft. Bliss in El Paso, Texas. I'm sure that was by TEA Party members too, given how much they hate our armed forces.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 28, 2010 7:25 PM | Report abuse

dawd, grassley has already started doing this.

Posted by: drindl | March 28, 2010 7:20 PM | Report abuse

Repeal is not going to happen. They have to say that now after the overheated rhetoric. But that's been fading and will continue to fade. What's more likely to happen is that Republicans will begin to co-opt parts of the bill. Pick the parts they like and also talk about how they prevented it from being REAL socialism or whatever.

Looks like Duke is going to escape with this one. Meaning I'm 0-4 in Final Four this year.

OMG, I hate dook so much.

Posted by: DDAWD | March 28, 2010 7:12 PM | Report abuse

Social Security is NOT "federal assistance" for those who paid in more than they got out. I call it highway robbery.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 28, 2010 7:10 PM | Report abuse

@noa:

Frank Rich is one of the MSMers who has taken his game to a new level in the BHO era. In Frank's case, a Pulitzer level, IMO. More than anyone, Rich gets it. And he was one of the first mainstream journalists to call out the racism on the part of BHO's opposition and the baggers.
It tickles me any time they try to interview a bagger on any of their cover issues, e.g., low taxes, anti-government. They look shocked when told BHO lowered their taxes. And their alleged avesrion to big government falls apart when the interviewer exposes the fact almost all of them are on some form of federal assistance such as social security, disability payments, etc.

Thanks for the link. Now back to "Dan Coats, the anti-Obama." :)

Posted by: broadwayjoe | March 28, 2010 7:02 PM | Report abuse

As long as I've followed politics I've never see states' rights invoked fir any reason other than to hinder the advancement of progress.

I don't think that keeping some regions of the country a century behind the rest was exactly what the Framers had in mind.

This year may well be the first in US history when nonwhite births outnumber white ones; if not 2010 then certainly by 2012. And there's the Republican Party with only three black members of Congress since 1935, and currently all white in the Senate and IINM only Joe Cau in the House. Not looking good for the white-haired racists, not looking good at all.

Want your country back? That's too bad. It's not yours anymore.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 28, 2010 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Frank Rich nails it again re: the essential racist core to the teabagger movement:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/28/opinion/28rich.html?hp

"To find a prototype for the overheated reaction to the health care bill, you have to look a year before Medicare, to the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Both laws passed by similar majorities in Congress; the Civil Rights Act received even more votes in the Senate (73 ) than Medicare (70 ). But it was only the civil rights bill that made some Americans run off the rails. That’s because it was the one that signaled an inexorable and immutable change in the very identity of America, not just its governance.

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The filters block any post longer than a 37th scream, so please take a moment to read the article.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 28, 2010 6:31 PM | Report abuse

James Madison wrote: "The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite."

Clearly, Obama's health care program is an abuse of power.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 28, 2010 5:57 PM | Report abuse

"But it may be difficult for Republicans to abandon the anger on the Right that they helped foment. Since the beginning of the Obama presidency, Republicans have been hyping charges of creeping socialism and a loss of American liberties.

Those are fighting words for many Americans on the Right. And as this right-wing anger has escalated following the health-care vote, U.S. law enforcement agencies will start to take a closer look at right-wing movements.

When the FBI begins investigating, conservative paranoia over Obama could fuel a self-fulfilling prophecy, in which heavily armed right-wingers feel persecuted and strike out in even greater anger.

It’s a violent cycle that was last seen in the United States during the early years of Democrat Bill Clinton’s presidency -- when angry Republican rhetoric about his legitimacy gave rise to armed militias and to talk about "black helicopters" and plots to eradicate American sovereignty. That contributed to Timothy McVeigh and a couple of other right-wing extremists getting together to bomb the Oklahoma City federal building on April 19, 1995, killing 168 people.

With that history in mind, it might be time to heed Bush’s 2006 warning, whether disingenuous or not, that “our differences cannot be allowed to harden into anger.”
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Posted by: drindl | March 28, 2010 5:52 PM | Report abuse

If HCR is 'uncontititutional' so is Medicare and SS. Go ahead and run on that.

And do remember what happened to Alf Landon, the R presidential candidate who ran on repealing Social Security. Landslide loss.

Posted by: drindl | March 28, 2010 5:48 PM | Report abuse

Jake


There actually is some case law United States v. Lopez (1995) - which might work in favor of declaring the health care bill UNCONSITUTIONAL.

Logically, there has to be some boundary between State and Federal power.


So, the Court may finally be called upon to define that boundary. We will have to see - however there is a solid case to be made.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 28, 2010 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Thank you, 37thand0street, for giving me a "single solitary" chance to discuss how un-Constitutional this purported legislation is ; )

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 28, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Chris:


broadwayjoe's postings today are HATE SPEECH - complete with SEXUAL SLURS.


Specifically postings at 3:16 pm and 2:57 pm and 2:41 PM


broadwayjoe should be BANNED.


If these ATTACKS are not against the rules - what could be?


Why is broadwayjoe allowed to post SEXUAL SLURS ON A DAILY BASIS - WHEN RACIAL SLURS ARE NOT OK ???


SURELY IF BROADWAYJOE CAN CONTINUE TO USE SEXUAL SLURS, THE WASHINGTON POST MUST BE SAYING THE N-WORD IS OK NOW.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 28, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

drindl

The health care bill is an abuse of power - one of historic proportions. Hopefully the Courts will look at the "interstate commerce" clause and declare the whole thing UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 28, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Anyone who wanted to discuss anything with you wouldn't wait for an invitation. Nobodyvis interested in discussing anything with you because you're intolerably stupid and are incapable of logic or honesty. So you beg fir responses with thus pitiable "let me know" thing, which despite over a thousand attempts has never netted you a single solitary response.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 28, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

If anyone else wants to discuss how ObamaCare is actually "an unconscionable abuse of power" (therefore proving that is not an incindiary charge), please let me know.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 28, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Of course you don't, Jake, you find those remarks uplifting. That's because you're a stinking racist swine.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 28, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

I do not fnd these comments to be incindiary.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 28, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Do you not fnd these comments to be incindiary, blad? This goes far beyound business as usual:

"Former Massachusetts governor and presidential aspirant Mitt Romney said, the day after health care passed the House, "America has just witnessed an unconscionable abuse of power."

House Minority Leader John Boehner called it "Armageddon." RNC Chairman Michael Steele agreed.

Steele followed up by saying he wanted to get House Speaker Nancy Pelosi "ready for the firing line this November," in trying to promote his "Fire Pelosi" moneybomb.

One of the most vicious screeds came from Rep. Todd Akin (R-MO) after Sunday's vote:

Today Americans are reacquainted with the danger of an arrogant all powerful government, a deadly enemy within, a clear and present danger in Washington.
In spite of nationwide opposition socialized medicine is being forced down our throats. That medicine is toxic to freedom. But freedom dies hard in America.

I do not believe that the majority of Americans will submit passively to the gold chains of socialism.

Conservative congressmen Michele Bachmann and Steve King have each called for revolution. Bachmann called on supporters to disobey the health care law. In the days before the weekend's vote, King called tea partiers to shut down Washington by packing the city's streets.

Former Alaska governor and conservative darling Sarah Palin used Twitter, entreating supporters, "Don't Retreat, Instead - RELOAD!"'

Posted by: drindl | March 28, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

BTW, I saw a recent political ad where they show some idiot opponent bragging about how he's going to repeal HCR, then the narrator walks through each of the HCR benefits, asking, "Are you going to repeal this one, or this one?" The ad both informs the viewers about what's in the bill--something the press didn't do--and shows what a foolish oaf his opponent is for talking about repealing these graet things. Every Dem needs to run a variation of it.

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Repeal is already losing steam, was losing it 48 hours after the House vote.

It's clearer than ever that GOP opposition to this bill is because it's good for Obama and the Democrats, representing a solid achievement and significant advance, not because of any of the shibboleths they've been screaming about.

Yeah people demanding the right to be dropped when they get sick. Good luck with that.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 28, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Shut up, burnout, and drop the "sexual slur" BS. They call themselves teabaggers.

Up to 20 blank lines now. How cute.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 28, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Word is now Obama wants to LEGALIZE ALL THE ILLEGAL ALIENS.


Then Obama wants to push through cap and trade - which is a massive tax burden on the economy.

Is there any LIMIT to the ways Obama wants to destroy this nation ???

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 28, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Chris:


broadwayjoe's postings today are HATE SPEECH - complete with SEXUAL SLURS.


Specifically postings at 3:16 pm and 2:57 pm and 2:41 PM


broadwayjoe should be BANNED.


If these ATTACKS are not against the rules - what could be?


Why is broadwayjoe allowed to post SEXUAL SLURS ON A DAILY BASIS - WHEN RACIAL SLURS ARE NOT OK ???


SURELY IF BROADWAYJOE CAN CONTINUE TO USE SEXUAL SLURS, THE WASHINGTON POST MUST BE SAYING THE N-WORD IS OK NOW.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 28, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

noa, the MSM started out pretending the baggers were "populists" and tax protesters." The usual "cover" issues. But baggers' recent violent racist eruptions have made that lame cover narrative untenable. Now the MSM has to deal with the fact that the face of the GOP base is now the red-faced, spitting tea bagger holding an n-word sign. If BHO and Pelosi don't tie these tea bags around their opposition's necks, they've missed a huge opportunity.

BTW, I saw a recent political ad where they show some idiot opponent bragging about how he's going to repeal HCR, then the narrator walks through each of the HCR benefits, asking, "Are you going to repeal this one, or this one?" The ad both informs the viewers about what's in the bill--something the press didn't do--and shows what a foolish oaf his opponent is for talking about repealing these graet things. Every Dem needs to run a variation of it.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | March 28, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

This is for you, Jake, and your absurd claim that you're not a bigot.

http://www.fugly.net/g5/0640.html

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I never have seen the point to racism, but maybe that's because I'm young. I'm far too busy making something of myself to be able to understand the sentiments of a person who's forty-eight years old, and who looks back on his life only to realize that the only thing he can be proud of accomplishing is having been white.

Even the garden-variety loser has a stamp collection.

Nor can I understand how someone could voluntarily prostrate himself before any of the self-proclaimed leaders of the ayran movement - as if a half-dozen rednecks in Ohio could be called a "movement."

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Why is it so hard for people to admit to being utterly worthless? Even though they never have amounted to anything, and probably never will, they'll pump themselves up with some cheap imitation of pride because they can trace their ancestry through a long line of squalid Indo-European peasants ...

... which isn't hard to do when your family tree doesn't fork."

Posted by: Noacoler | March 28, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Chris:


broadwayjoe's postings today are HATE SPEECH - complete with SEXUAL SLURS.

Specifically postings at 3:16 pm and 2:57 pm and 2:41 PM


broadwayjoe should be BANNED.

If these ATTACKS are not against the rules - what could be?

Why is broadwayjoe allowed to post SEXUAL SLURS ON A DAILY BASIS - WHEN RACIAL SLURS ARE NOT OK ???

SURELY IF BROADWAYJOE CAN CONTINUE TO USE SEXUAL SLURS, THE WASHINGTON POST MUST BE SAYING THE N-WORD IS OK NOW.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 28, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe


We don't think that is true - we have information to the contrary - would you like to come clean now ??/


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 28, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Not only does CC have nothing to say about the overt racism of the teabaggers, nor about their thuggish behavior last Sunday, but he suggests that it "remains to be seen" whether any if this will reflect on his beloved Republican Party. That would of course depend on the accuracy and honesty of the press, now wouldn't it.

And I think we all know where the chips fall here when accurate reporting conflicts with the impression that the GOP is still a legitimate political party.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 28, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

37, my answer to the question you've posted night and day during the entire weekend is: No.

31 + 6 = 0

Posted by: broadwayjoe | March 28, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

d, I'm proud that many of the MSMers are finally getting it--that the baggers are and always were a bunch of racist, white nationalist thugs. The only media sympathizers you hear now are just exposing themselves as fellow travelers in the hate agenda.

Journalist Ron Walters, who enagges in real "Political News & Analysis" for living, is weighing in, too, on the baggers:

"Following the Tea Party phenomenon and watching its recent convention, it was interesting to see media folks and Tea Party representatives struggle with the question of why so few Blacks were there. This is not a new thing, since the philosophical base of the Republican Party has been the Conservative movement for some time and their conventions have also been lily white. But the emergence of the Tea Party phenomenon should cause us to ask how far it is from bonafide anti-Black White nationalist politics striving to enhance its role in the political system."

http://www.louisianaweekly.com/news.php?viewStory=2395

As previously noted, our comprehensive search of the Post archives for any Fix criticism of the baggers came up empty.

QED.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | March 28, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

All this talk about racial politics HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ECONOMY OR HEALTH CARE.

Obama's health care program is PLACING AN IMMEDIATE DRAG ON HIRING IN THIS COUNTRY.

Obama and the health care bill will put AN IMMEDIATE HALT TO THE ECONOMIC RECOVERY IN THIS COUNTRY.

3500 companies realized on Friday that they will be ESPECIALLY HARD HIT BY A PROVISION IN OBAMA'S HEALTH CARE PROGRAM.


What did you expect from OBAMA - WHO HAD NO ECONOMIC OR BUSINESS EXPERIENCE EXCEPT FOR BUYING COCAINE ????

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 28, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

They don't have to specificially encourage violence -- all they have to do is fail to discourage it. They are rationalizing and excusing --I think it was Cantor, who shrugged off the guy who flew into the IRS building in Texas 'nobody likes to pay taxes.' And some other R who said he 'couldn't blame him."

Not to mention tons of comments about how dems are socialists, fascists, communists, destroying the country, like Osama bin laden, the list is endless. And as far as scale, it ain't over yet. I expect you'll see much worse before the election.

"Nunes said Pelosi and her lieutenant, Rep. George Miller, D-Concord, want to cut off Valley irrigation water because “they are radical environmental crazies,” and he explicitly likened the House leaders’ water policies to those of the late Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein and the current Zimbabwe dictator Robert Mugabe."

"Bachmann also said that her controversial remarks of more than a year ago – in which she called Obama “anti-American” and suggested members of Congress be investigated for “anti-American activities” – have proven prophetic."

Posted by: drindl | March 28, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe


I guess it makes sense to REPEAT THIS POINT - if you take the actions of a few people - and use that to describe a whole GROUP OF PEOPLE, that is wrong.

It is called STEROTYPING - RACIAL PROFILING.

THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE DOING - you take one or two people - and you are using their actions to describe a whole group.


If you really want to do that, go to ANY JAIL IN AMERICA - AND LOOK AT THE BLACKS (MORE THAN A FEW) - AND USE THEIR CRIMES TO DESCRIBE ALL BLACKS IN AMERICA.

If you want to sterotype - that is what you should be doing - there are many many more BLACK CRIMINALS out there, than the few instances that you are talking about.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 28, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

...and veteran mainstream journalist Joan Walsh gives her excellent take on the racist movement known as the teabaggers:

"I'm having a hard time tonight trying to believe almost uniformly white tea partiers are anything other than a racist, right-wing reaction to the election of an African American president who brings with him feminists and gays (even if he doesn't do as much for them as they would ideally like). I'm having a hard time seeing the tea partiers as anything other than the spawn of George Wallace racism – the movement Pat Buchanan bragged to me that Richard Nixon made his own. Of course, in that same "Hardball" segment, Buchanan denounced me for condescending to and "demonizing" the tea partiers. I still find that rich: I grew up in lower middle class Long Island, with a first-generation Irish father, going to public schools and universities, while the wealthy Buchanan grew up in Washington D.C. with professionals as parents and attended Georgetown University. How is he the supposed working class troubadour while I'm somehow emblematic of the pointy-headed liberal elite?"

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/joan_walsh/politics/2010/03/20/tea_party_racism

The MSM is finally openly acknowledging the baggers are just this era's version of the old George Wallace/Orval Faubus/"Pitchfolk" Ben Tillman crowd.

Journalists electing to stand on the right side of history on this issue, include:

Gene Robinson
Colbert King
Maureen Dowd
Frank Rich
Janeane Garofalo
Sara Libby
Keith Olbermann
Dr. Rachel Maddow

We salute you.

Those standing on the WRONG side of history (and so it will be noted), include:
Drudge
Bloggers who "emulate" Drudge
Pat Buchanan (author of the famous article/rant, "A Brief for Whitey")
Beck
William ("thought experiment") Bennett

Ugh.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | March 28, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe


YOU still have not answered the question.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 28, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

No.

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | March 28, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

I neglected to ask about the health of the black stage hand who got beaten up at the end of one Palin hate rally during her 08 camapign--allegedly, possibly, probably, almost certainly. Goons beating up people for no reason, spitting on folks, smashing windows, brandshing at events, yelling racial and ethnic slurs all in the name of "patriotism" and the "fatherland"/ "homeland" ... now where have we seen that before?

34, 35, 36, __, 38. 39...

Posted by: broadwayjoe | March 28, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

If anyone else wants to discuss all the differences between the STATE healthcare system and federal ObamaCare, let me know.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 28, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

I've got it on the radio, but this is like watch a Rocky-style boxing match. Wallace occasionally has his fingers on the scale, but largely seems content to letting them to go at it.

With regards to a few bricks in the window, scale is key. Find me an email from the RNC or any member of the House specifically encouraging violence. I don't rate wingnut bloggers.

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Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | March 28, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

To run away from his positions would make him look weaker, like a flipflopper, and incoherent, like Romney does when he tries to pretend that the health care system he championed in MA is different from the HCR bill just passed.

Posted by: drindl | March 28, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Blade, encouraging people to smash windows is a type of thuggery that was typical of brownshirt tactics/threats/ intimidation, whether you like it or not. And cutting gas lines could very easily have resulted in murder. To compare similar tactics is not innacurate.

Glad to see the two lonely loons have each other to talk to... sweet.

Posted by: drindl | March 28, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse

I'm watching that too, BB> Is Rubio like 12??

He's going after Crist hard, though. Hammering him for supporting the stimulus. Not sure how this will play out. Crist's message is definitely more geared toward centrists. To his credit, he isn't running from his positions. Said he would no doubt have voted for the stimulus had be been a Senator.

Posted by: DDAWD | March 28, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

This is pretty cool. Fox News Sunday has a primary debate between Rubio and Crist. [I'm getting it late on the C-SPAN rebroadcast.] I'm looking forward to seeing this on the run down tomorrow morning.

I also caught a Cilizza reference during the call-in discussion between Tom Davis and a former Texas Democratic Rep.

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Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | March 28, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

37th:

Don't worry about broadwayjoe either. See you later.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 28, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

I'm really glad to have not even bought that 10 cent cup of coffee after seeing what Verlie (from the Searchlight Nugget) say:

"I totally resent the fact that they have come to Senator Reid's hometown and targeted him," she said.  "I just don't think that is the American way.  I don't think so.  They are strangers.  They don't know him at all."

READ THE FIRST AMENDMENT, lady!

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 28, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe


You are going to be ASKED AGAIN - ARE YOU WORKING WITH THE DNC OR OFA OR ANY OTHER DEMOCRATIC GROUP.


IF YOU DO NOT ANSWER, THAT MEANS YES.


AND PLEASE TELL US HOW MUCH YOU ARE PAID TO BOTHER EVERYONE ELSE ON THIS BLOG.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 28, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

The American People want control over their country.

Obama and the democrats ran on a PLATFORM OF LIES IN 2008 - and tried to fool the country.

Now Obama is seeking to put in policies which the AMERICAN PEOPLE CLEARLY DO NOT WANT.

The people want control of their country back.

The democrats just sit there and fool themselves - they somehow believe that the People were fooled once in 2008 and that will lead to a permanent change - nothing changed - NO ONE WANTS THE FAR LEFT WING AGENDA. THE American People are ANGRY.

Obama's taxes are going to hurt the economy


Obama's disapproval ratings continue to go up - everyone can't wait to vote against the democrats in November.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 28, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

37th:

Nevada actually has the second-highest unemployment of any State (right behind Michigan). It's no coincidence that Gov. Palin's message hits home in both of these States. Americans are hurting.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 28, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Jake


Thank you for your kind words - I was hoping that with the traffic jam and all, you would still get into the rally somehow.


The posters on here have resorted to lies to distract everyone from the truth.

It is ABOUT THE ECONOMY - AND JOBS - and OBAMA'S effect on JOBS WILL BE AN IMMEDIATE DRAG ON HIRING.


We know that basic truth runs counter to the fairy-tale storyline which the democrats want.

At this point - THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE TO FIGHT TO SAVE THE ECONOMY FROM THE DESTRUCTION OF OBAMA AND THE DEMOCRATS - this is a historic fight to save our country, keep America strong and we will win.


If Obama and the democrats win, we will become a third rate country drowning in debt.

This fight is ABOUT THE FUTURE OF AMERICA - AND WE HAVE TO STOP OBAMA AND THE DEMOCRATS FROM DESROYING OUR ECONOMY.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 28, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

37, speaking of HCR, did the poor soul the bagger beat the snot out of at yesterday's McCain/Palin hate rally have any health insurance?

Posted by: broadwayjoe | March 28, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else?

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 28, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

' The crowd was huge (and I even saw some minorities). '

nah, it was a sea of wrinkled white faces -- woodstock at an assisted living facility. doesn't sound like anyone put exlax in the jello, but i hear several hundred had to be treated for an overdose of the purple kool aid.

Posted by: drindl | March 28, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Comparisons with Kristallnacht and Nazi Germany are about as valid as comparisons to, well, Nazi Germany and facism. Hey! Left and Right meet on the other side of the circle. Obama IS a uniter.

Well, back to writing about organic solar cells. Chapter due on Monday (well, overdue, but I got an extension).

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Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | March 28, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

37thand0street:

Don't let them get to you. That's why they are posting lies and hypocrisies. Case in point: Noacoler posts AFTER you but drindl tries to get your skin for posting "too late" on a Saturday night?! LOL

You and I both know we are not racists, but simply oppose Obama's policies. Banning does no good around here, so just ignore them. Keep posting accurate information to show the lurkers what's really happening on these topics. The truth shall overcome. That's the best we can hope for.

P.S. thanks for your update, we were listening to Palin's speech in the car but had spotty cell coverage. We could see the helicopters and skywriting from where we were stuck. The crowd was huge (and I even saw some minorities). We went to see the Hoover Dam and then won a couple hundred dollars on slots in Vegas, so it wasn't a wasted trip. At least we sucked more out of Nevada's economy (and we did NOT stop for coffee at the Searchlight Nugget ; )

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 28, 2010 12:19 PM | Report abuse

There were HUNDREDS OF CAMERAS AND MICROPHONES on Capitol Hill that day - not one caught a racial slur - and NOT ONE REPORTER HAS SAID THEY HEARD A RACIAL SLUR

Again - I have to point out - there are rallies and protests all the time on Capitol Hill -

Generally the Congressmen AVOID these protestors and TAKE OTHER ROUTES INTO THE CAPITOL. The Congressmen diliberately went out to have a confrontation with the protestors - normally they avoid all the raillies.

Let's be serious folks - this entire episode is ridiculous.


And the Rep Cleaver incident - the guy was yelling - not spitting - it is on tape -


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 28, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Drinl


Your posting drindl | March 28, 2010 10:48 AM


is UNTRUE AND an "ad hominem" attack


WASHINGTON POST - PLEASE BAN DRINL

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 28, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

drinl


All you have to do is compare the Obama's health care to Hoover's Smoot-Hawley Tariff and you have the right comparison: the wrong bill during an economic downturn which will MAKE THE ECONOMY WORSE.

This is not the civil rights battle - and it is really silly to talk that way.

Obama is HURTING THE ECONOMY - just the one cut in which companies announced on Friday will RESULT IN LESS HIRING - THIS IS NOT WHAT THE ECONOMY NEEDS RIGHT NOW.

WE HAVE TO GET RID OF OBAMA'S HEALTH CARE PLAN AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

THE ECONOMY DEPENDS ON IT.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 28, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Some college professor had a website up a while back with side by side comparisons of Ann Coulter speeches with Hitler's. All you had to do was substitute 'Democrats' or 'liberals' for 'Jews' and they were almost identical.

That being said, the rhetoric agianst HCR is very much like that which occurred during the civil rights era, the enactment of SS and Medicare, and women's suffrage.

Posted by: drindl | March 28, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Totally cosign, d. Germany in the 30s all over again.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | March 28, 2010 11:22 AM | Report abuse

They tried to blame the Jews for Kristallnacht too... and as you see, these were 'grassroots' too, with the party not *officially* involved, but not discouraging it either.

"This pogrom has come to be called Kristallnacht, "the Night of Broken Glass."

On the nights of November 9 and 10, gangs of Nazi youth roamed through Jewish neighborhoods breaking windows of Jewish businesses and homes, burning synagogues and looting.

The official German position on these events, which were clearly orchestrated by Goebbels, was that they were spontaneous outbursts. The Fuehrer, Goebbels reported to Party officials in Munich, "has decided that such demonstrations are not to be prepared or organized by the party, but so far as they originate spontaneously, they are not to be discouraged either." (Conot, Robert E. Justice at Nuremberg. New York: Harper & Row, 1983:165)

Three days later, on November 12, Goering called a meeting of the top Nazi leadership to assess the damage done during the night and place responsibility for it. Present at the meeting were Goering, Goebbels, Reinhard Heydrich, Walter Funk and other ranking Nazi officials. The intent of this meeting was two-fold: to make the Jews responsible for Kristallnacht and to enact laws against them."

Posted by: drindl | March 28, 2010 11:14 AM | Report abuse

I had Louisville upsetting Duke. Figured that if they could do it twice to Syracuse this year, they could take down Duke. Turns out they got out-played by Cal. Duke still hasn't been given a good game in the tourney.

I'll give up a bit for Coach K. His players graduate. Though I think with a minor in acting.

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Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | March 28, 2010 11:01 AM | Report abuse

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Man, 37 & O is so seething with rage at black, just for existing, he can't sleep at night. It's just eating him up. Have you ever seen such a blatant racist? I mean, besides Joke?

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Posted by: drindl | March 28, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

BB, my issue with Duke is that they are godless heathens and Krzyzewski looks like a rat with a wig and that the whole team flops like fishes on a boat and that Gerald Henderson elbowed Tyler Hansbrough and that their cheerleaders are the ugliest in the ACC.

But yeah, they got an incredibly easy bracket. The playin game? A second round game against the winner of the overrated UCal and Louisville teams? Third round game against a hobbled Purdue? Jeez. One of my goals is to eliminate Duke as early as possible, but I couldn't see where it was realistic. The 8-9 matchup was so bad in the South, so I couldn't off them before the sweet 16. I picked Purdue, but even that was a stretch. (although it would have been kind of interesting to see a Tennessee/Purdue matchup in the championship game - a weird parallel to the Superbowl)

But I had Baylor playing Purdue tomorrow. I'm half right and still have a chance to get one team in the final four.

And I've got to see what Obama does and pick against him. He only had UNC correct last year and is missing all four this year.

Posted by: DDAWD | March 27, 2010 11:54 PM | Report abuse

Pay attention, burnout.

The Internet is international. One doesn't have to reside in the USA to post here. My departure from the USA is completely orthogonal to my presence on this blog. But then you are functionally retarded so you probably can't work that out.

My one-way trip is planned for late 2012. Between now and then will be many two-way trips, the next one about three weeks from now, bringing over boxes of belongings so I don't have to bring it all at once.

I'll make it real for your poor charred mind by posting here from there.

Too bad you didn't lay off the PCP before the damage was permanent. But you didn't so it is.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 27, 2010 11:51 PM | Report abuse


Colbert King:


It is clear that you are the one who is filled with hate.

I can not believe what would have brought you to write such an article.

Obviously, you are still upset about the Jim Crow Era - however things have changed since then.

It makes no sense to take out your anger at the Jim Crow Era in today's environment - an environment which is completely different and which race relations are significantly better.

The anger that you are throwing into the pages of the Washington Post can only serve to set BACK race relations. Nothing in your article improves race relations.

The injection of racial politics into the health care debate is a vile twisting of democracy - and quite frankly is RACIST on your part.

And your anger shows in your words.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 27, 2010 11:46 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe


You are going to be ASKED AGAIN - ARE YOU WORKING WITH THE DNC OR OFA OR ANY OTHER DEMOCRATIC GROUP.


IF YOU DO NOT ANSWER, THAT MEANS YES.


AND PLEASE TELL US HOW MUCH YOU ARE PAID TO BOTHER EVERYONE ELSE ON THIS BLOG.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 27, 2010 11:43 PM | Report abuse

Noacoler


You have been banned from this blog at least 3 times - so who are you to talk ?


AND you keep on promising everyone that you are leaving the country for Vietnam


When is this happening ???


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 27, 2010 11:28 PM | Report abuse

Shut up, burnout. The only people who come here to bother other posters are Jake, zouk, and you. And it's Republicans who seek to create false impressions on blogs, Democrats don't need to, the facts are already on their side.

I hope someone maims you so you can no longer continue flooding this blog with you brain charred idiocy.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 27, 2010 11:20 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe


You are going to be ASKED AGAIN - ARE YOU WORKING WITH THE DNC OR OFA OR ANY OTHER DEMOCRATIC GROUP.


IF YOU DO NOT ANSWER, THAT MEANS YES.


AND PLEASE TELL US HOW MUCH YOU ARE PAID TO BOTHER EVERYONE ELSE ON THIS BLOG.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 27, 2010 10:22 PM | Report abuse

Don't worry, DDAWD. I'm already doing as well as the selection committee (three #1's out). If Baylor knocks off Duke (please oh please oh please), they'll be 0 for 4. My irritation with Duke is mainly that they were a marginal 1 seed and STILL got the easiest bracket.

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Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | March 27, 2010 10:18 PM | Report abuse

And the victim was actually a Hayworth supporter. He hates Obama too.

Posted by: DDAWD | March 27, 2010 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Funny thing is that Palin actually told the guy to stick around and be convinced. Looks like the teabaggers wanted none of that, though.

This is my worst bracket in a looong time. A far cry from getting all four of the final four teams last year. Baylor is my only potential Final Four team remaining. It seems like forever since I picked the first eight games of the tournament correctly, haha.

Posted by: DDAWD | March 27, 2010 10:02 PM | Report abuse

The Kentucky game's over so I'll exercise my right to remain silent. Out. :)

Posted by: broadwayjoe | March 27, 2010 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Hardly shocking--it's being reported the baggers beat the snot out of a protester today at a McCain/Palin hate rally:

"According to the local ABC station , the protestor was punched by some of Palin-McCain supporters before the police arrive to take the man out of the auditorium. In fact, a supporter pushed his head to the sidewalk as officers tried to separate the two. And also, according to some witnesses, another protestor was also punched by someone in the crowd."

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/3/27/851558/-T-Baggers-beat-up-a-Protestor-at-the-Palin-McCain-Rally-in-Mesa-(AZ)

Posted by: broadwayjoe | March 27, 2010 9:36 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe -

You have the right to remain silent.

Anything you blog can and will be used against you in the commnets section.

You have the right to send a tweet or have a twit present during any questioning.

If you cannot afford a smartphone, one will be provided for you at government expense.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | March 27, 2010 9:35 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe


You are going to be ASKED AGAIN - ARE YOU WORKING WITH THE DNC OR OFA OR ANY OTHER DEMOCRATIC GROUP.


IF YOU DO NOT ANSWER, THAT MEANS YES.

AND PLEASE TELL US HOW MUCH YOU ARE PAID TO BOTHER EVERYONE ELSE ON THIS BLOG.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 27, 2010 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Kansas, Kstate, Kentucky, and Baylor for me. Hopefully I can get Baylor.

Posted by: DDAWD | March 27, 2010 9:12 PM | Report abuse

I had KU, Syracuse, Baylor and W. Virginia. If Baylor manages to knock off Duke, having 2 of the Final Four is doing OK this year.

Icksnay on the irtyseventhay atchay. Echay itemay iguray itay outay.

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Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | March 27, 2010 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Shut up, burnout

Posted by: Noacoler | March 27, 2010 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Man, what's going on with Kentucky?

Posted by: DDAWD | March 27, 2010 8:43 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe


You are going to be ASKED AGAIN - ARE YOU WORKING WITH THE DNC OR OFA OR ANY OTHER DEMOCRATIC GROUP.


IF YOU DO NOT ANSWER, THAT MEANS YES.


AND PLEASE TELL US HOW MUCH YOU ARE PAID TO BOTHER EVERYONE ELSE ON THIS BLOG.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 27, 2010 8:16 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe


No one wants Obama's taxes - NO ONE wants another massive government program.

Just about EVERYONE can't wait to vote Obama out of office.

You are wasting your words trying to convince anyone of this garbage. You and your pal Obama HAVE BEEN TOLD FOR MONTHS THAT THE COUNTRY DOES NOT WANT THIS GARBAGE HEALTH CARE PLAN.

Both of you have to be stupid.

It isn't that hard. Just listen to the people.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 27, 2010 8:10 PM | Report abuse

At some point BHO and Nancy will have expose the bogus corporatist polls which use loaded questions and flawed methodologies to produce predetermined results.

Does anyone outside Drudge/Fix World and the separatist compounds in Idaho believe that a majority of Americans think the previous state of health insurance was acceptable as some, but not all, of the corporatist polls were saying.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | March 27, 2010 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Chris Cillizza:


I have asked numerous times if broadwayjoe, Ddawd, 12barblues and others are working with the DNC, OFA or any other democratic groups.

On numerous times, they have all REFUSED TO ANSWER THE QUESTION.

We have to take that as a YES - they are working with the DNC or the OFA -

I believe it would be appropriate for these individuals to IDENTIFY THEMSELVES as working with these democratic groups -

If they are ACTUALLY PAID to post here - I believe it would be appropriate for us to ask - are their postings appropriate for these democratic groups to post in this manner.


Specifically, we mean, the SEXUAL SLURS -


AND THE OVERT ATTEMPTS TO SILENCE OPPOSING VIEWS.

This request is not unreasonable.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 27, 2010 7:50 PM | Report abuse

we luv malis.

Posted by: drindl | March 27, 2010 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Broadwayjoe


Today, among whites, only 35 percent of men and 43 percent of women say they will back Democrats in the fall election. Women's preferences have remained steady since July 2009. But white men's support for a Democratic Congress has fallen eight percentage points, according to Gallup.

White men have moved away from Obama as well. The same proportion of white women approve of him -- 46 percent, according to Gallup -- as voted for him in 2008. But only 38 percent of white men approve of the President, which means that millions of white men who voted for Obama have now lost faith in him.

Bye Bye Democratic Party - it's over - you will never win another Presidential Election.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 27, 2010 7:45 PM | Report abuse

"Update: A Study on Motivation and Societal Impact of the Extremist-Obsessive Blog Poster
Subject: “37th” (shortname for subject using approximately 20 different variations of a userID containing the root phrase “37thandO”)

Subject’s postings (through Jan 2, 4:56pET) to the string “Best House Campaigns of 2008” were previously collected and classified in four defined categories. This entry appends subject’s additional posting.

As of Jan 3 10:17aET, 37th owned 14 (+3) of 64 (+6) total entries, raising the subject’s percentage of total postings to this string from 19% to 22%.

Number and percentage of on-topic postings: 0 and 0%

1) Simplistic insult of individuals and groups: 22 (+2)
2) Paranoiac accusations: 6 (+1)
3) Rote repetition of fantasy scenarios 19 (+4)
4) Projection (accusing others of behavior exhibited by the subject) 9 (+2)

Subject has initiated posting to two additional strings. Data currently being collected and analyzed. When sufficient data has been collected results will be posted to those strings.

Posted by: malis | January 3, 2009 2:30 PM"

Posted by: broadwayjoe | March 27, 2010 7:33 PM | Report abuse

Yes, Nancy took her game to the next level. What she accomplished probably won't be fully acknowledged until the haters in the media have died off. Incredible performance by the Speaker with the clock ticking down...

Posted by: broadwayjoe | March 27, 2010 7:19 PM | Report abuse

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/26/AR2010032602225.html

Why did health-care reform pass? Nancy Pelosi was in charge.

Posted by: DDAWD | March 27, 2010 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Super game.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | March 27, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse

Hey, 37th

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Doesn't have the votes???

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Posted by: DDAWD | March 27, 2010 6:55 PM | Report abuse

IS THIS POST-RACIAL AMERICA ???


or was post-racial always a complete joke ???


Today, among whites, only 35 percent of men and 43 percent of women say they will back Democrats in the fall election. Women's preferences have remained steady since July 2009. But white men's support for a Democratic Congress has fallen eight percentage points, according to Gallup.

White men have moved away from Obama as well. The same proportion of white women approve of him -- 46 percent, according to Gallup -- as voted for him in 2008. But only 38 percent of white men approve of the President, which means that millions of white men who voted for Obama have now lost faith in him.


Bye Bye Democratic Party - it's over - you will never win another Presidential Election.

Bye - no really bye bye

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 27, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Oh, wow. Butler is in Indianapolis. That's going to be a huge boost for them next week.

Posted by: DDAWD | March 27, 2010 6:48 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe


Just because you have a little organized group of people - you think that means your group should dominate the discussion?

Really - what exactly do you mean???

Meanwhile - Chris Cillizza should ban YOU for your constant SEXUAL SLURS on this blog - it really is offensive.

You are simply trying to silence opposing views - that is what you and the Obama people are all about - DISRESPECT FOR THE CONSTITUTION.


We all understand that you do like the Constitution.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 27, 2010 6:44 PM | Report abuse

Got our first Final Four team. Congrats Butler.

Posted by: DDAWD | March 27, 2010 6:42 PM | Report abuse

LET ME BE CLEAR


Obama's taxes will NOT stand.


Obama's massive government program will NOT STAND.


The health care bill WILL BE DE-FUNDED NEXT YEAR PREVENTING ITS IMPLEMENTATION.

The health care bill WILL BE REPEALED - perhaps on the exact day Obama leaves office.

Obama's presidency will be thrown onto the ASHHEAP OF HISTORY ALONG WITH HERBERT HOOVER AND HIS TARIFF.

NO AMOUNT OF FALSE CHARGES OF RACISM WILL STOP THIS FROM HAPPENING.


All those who engage in FALSE CHARGES OF RACISM will be held ACCOUNTABLE.

This assault on DEMOCRACY will not stand.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 27, 2010 6:36 PM | Report abuse

d, he knows, IMO. There's probably an agenda here which eventually will come to light as they always do...IMO.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | March 27, 2010 6:36 PM | Report abuse

Oh, I'm not saying CC doesn't tolerate bigots and homophobes, I'm just saying he doesn't realize that a 24/7 blog-jamming troll like 37 will eventually drive away everyone else from his blog, from sheer brain-deadening boredom.

Posted by: drindl | March 27, 2010 6:28 PM | Report abuse

wow, how about this comeback by K State?? That 3 to take the lead was just cold-blooded.

Posted by: DDAWD | March 27, 2010 6:25 PM | Report abuse

I dunno. I didn't really think banning CF8 was such a wrong thing. He was really terrible back then with as much clog as anyone else. It was just that he was the only one to get banned. Jaked should have been banned without even a warning. I do find it's pretty disgusting that Chris C was willing to even warn him. You don't give warning to outright racism like that.

Posted by: DDAWD | March 27, 2010 6:23 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe


We all know what your opinion is worth..... nothing.

Can you be serious?

It is not for you to tell the Washington Post what to print.

Broadwayjoe, you need to clean up your SEXUAL SLURS AND HATE SPEECH.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 27, 2010 6:23 PM | Report abuse

dd, those other troll bannings were with great reluctance after many posters questioned why he was very quick to ban CF8 (for OBJECTING to racist posts and very personal attacks) but, at the time of his banning, had taken no action against the trolls who were making those offensive posts.

Seriously, no "neutral" journalist rolls out of bed and types a blog titled "Dan Coats, the anti-Obama" only days after the President's greatest triumph (HCR) or gives shout-outs to Chip Salsman and Tucker Carlson...IMO.

Again, just sayin'.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | March 27, 2010 6:17 PM | Report abuse

Broadwayjoe, DDawd


It really is amazing how much you whine about opposing views.

You do realize that you live in AMERICA - in which everyone has Freedom of Speech ???

It is amazing that your dearest wish appears to be to silence opposing views.

It really is sad that you do not understand the CONSTITUTION.

It really is sad that you do not have the COMMITMENT TO DEMOCRACY that everyone else in America does.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 27, 2010 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Again - Harry Reid and Obama practice HYPOCRISY ON RECESS APPOINTMENTS.


In order to stop George Bush from making recess appointments, Harry Reid made sure that the Senate did not go into recess in late 2007 and 2008.

So what is good for the democrats is wrong for the Republicans - is that right ???

HYPOCRITES.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 27, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse

no, I actually agree. The only message board I participate in is a poker board, but on there, the mods have a much better sense on keeping conversation flowing. They don't ban people willy-nilly, but they do understand who is there to cause trouble and will get rid of them after warning them. Chris doesn't seem to get this difference.

That being said, Chris C has banned jaked, zook, and CF8. All three of them have circumvented it. Nothing he can do about that. I don't expect him to moderate this place. It would be nice if the website had some mods, though. Everything has its own comment section, but I imagine only a few of them need to be moderated. You could probably just look for ones with high post counts.

Although it is pretty ridiculous that CF8 was the first banning.

Posted by: DDAWD | March 27, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse

DDawd


It is pretty clear you and your pals are all working together - and you are seeking to shut down all opposing views.

That is not only against the First Amendment - it is unAmerican.

You, broadwayjoe and 12BarBlues - refuse to say whether you are working for the DNC, OFA or any other democratic groups.


Yet, you all engage in hate speech, sexual slurs and you continue to bicker with other posters.

You really don't have much to contribute. here.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 27, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

d, I agree with you about 99.9999% of the time but I think you're dead wrong on why 37 and the trolls have been allowed by "the host" to carpet-post repetitive, rightwing bigoted junk over the last two years.

The host's "print" background, IMO, has nothing to do with it (see, e.g., Chip (Barack the Magic N-gro CD) Salsman shoutout; only one positive mention of BHO in the last two years).

Just sayin'.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | March 27, 2010 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Doesn't wash, drindl, not after he bans people for calling out racists but leaves the racists alone

Posted by: Noacoler | March 27, 2010 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Did anyone EVER beleive 37 was here for any reason othr than disruption and jamming?

I think CC's problem is that he comes from a print background and doesn't really understand what a troll is all about.

Posted by: drindl | March 27, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

d, dd, noa, other patriots: Doesn't this feel like the moment in "Rocky II" when Adrienne tells Rocky, "Just win" and he goes on to win the belt.

Hopefully, with these recess appointments and the earlier passage of HCR, this is the official end of BHO's Jackie Robinson/rope-a-dope phase and the beginning of "Let Obama be Obama."

Let's see if BHO keeps it up.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | March 27, 2010 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Recess Appointments: clicking heels here

1) the fact of the appontments

2) the bold and direct justification

3) the wingnuts exploding heads to come ("TYranny TYranny TYranny")

4) Becker! Up yours, JakeD!

Posted by: Noacoler | March 27, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Can we please drop any pretense that 37th is here to contribute orvro express his views? Between the incoherence of his posts, the constant repetition, the vast empty space, and the raw idiocy of his paranoia, anyone can see that he's seeking only to suppress conversation here.

Is CC allowing it to go on because he's in accord with 37ths hatred of Obama? That would be my guess.

Chris, if you're not going to block this troll then shut down the whole comment section, it's not functioning with this unemployed burnout posting every two minutes around the clock.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 27, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

haha, our minds are in synch, BWJ


"The United States Senate has the responsibility to approve or disapprove of my nominees. But if, in the interest of scoring political points, Republicans in the Senate refuse to exercise that responsibility, I must act in the interest of the American people and exercise my authority to fill these positions on an interim basis," Obama said in a statement.

"Most of the men and women whose appointments I am announcing today were approved by Senate committees months ago, yet still await a vote of the Senate. At a time of economic emergency, two top appointees to the Department of Treasury have been held up for nearly six months. I simply cannot allow partisan politics to stand in the way of the basic functioning of government."

Posted by: DDAWD | March 27, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/27/obama-recess-appoints-15_n_515869.html

bama Recess Appoints 15 Top Officials, End-Running GOP Obstruction

Posted by: DDAWD | March 27, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Patriot-journalist Dan Froomkin is reporting on HuffPo that BHO has just made 15 recess appointments, side-stepping the opposition's irrational obstructionism.

Hip Hip Hooray. Hip Hip Hooray.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | March 27, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

ok, Chris. You asked him nicely. It's pretty clear he's just trying to drown everyone out. Can you get rid of him, please?

Surprisingly, three of my final four are still alive. K state needs to pick it up, though.

Posted by: DDAWD | March 27, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse


IT appears that if broadwayjoe, Ddawd and Fairlington can not control the conversation with their HATE SPEECH AND SEXUAL SLURS, then they don't want to talk.


It is a passive aggressive strategy - they are sulking in the corner - hoping that the Washington Post gives them what they want.

What they want is to silence all dissent - they want their views only to be in the media.

So they sulk.

Actually defending their positions is not an option.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 27, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Jake


I hate to tell you this but Sarah Palin just finished talking


They say the cars on I-95 are backed up at least a mile trying to get into the Tea Party event.

Take a look at a map - see if there is another road in - MAYBE you can take the Gas Pipeline Road into town.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 27, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe


Your postings today have been EXTREMELY OFFENSIVE TO THE FIRST AMENDMENT.

You probably have trouble understanding that.

Your views are vile - and if you do not respect your opposition, you belong in a communist nation - perhaps you would feel at home in North Korea - there aren't too many countries on Earth who have the same views on the First Amendment as you do.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 27, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Still stuck in traffic.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 27, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

The focus should not be on racial incidents which the DEMOCRATS ARE CLEARLY FANNING FOR POLITICAL GAIN.


So much for Obama's promises of a post-racial American - such promises have become a COMPLETE FRAUD.

It is time to focus on REPEALING THE HEALTH CARE BILL - AND DE-FUNDING ITS IMPLEMENTATION.


Next year, if the Republicans re-capture the House, Obama WILL BE IMPEACHED.

WE CAN ADD "FALSE CHARGES OF RACISM" AS A COUNT IN OBAMA'S IMPEACHMENT.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 27, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

FairlingtonBlade


You should read up on the incidents of Nazi symbols found on the campus of George Washington University - which hit the papers and was a whole stirring.


Until it was found to be a Jewish student at the school stirring up trouble.

AGAIN - IT SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED WHETHER THE DNC OR OFA OR ANOTHER DEMOCRATIC GROUP SENT PEOPLE INTO THE CROWD TO MAKE RACIAL SLURS AND STIR UP TROUBLE.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 27, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Fairlington


when you know you are wrong, you run away.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 27, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe


look at the garbage you and drinl post on here - then you complain that your twisted views do not control the discussion.

AND your views are twisted.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 27, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Couldn't resist checking one last time. I'm sure George Wallace in '64 would welcome you heartily, 37th. For me, Occam's razor is a much easier way to live.

Toodles.

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | March 27, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

FairlingtonBlade


It is plausible that the DNC or OFA or another democratic group sent people into the crowd on Capitol Hill in order to incite a RACIAL INCIDENT.

Look what the democrats have been doing all week - fanning the flames of HATE.

The democratic party has become a HATE GROUP - complete with SEXUAL SLURS for those who do not agree with them - and codewords for their HATE.


Let me ask you something - GO TO ANY RALLY ON CAPITOL HILL, YOU CAN'T GET CONGRESSMEN THERE - MUCH LESS AT A RALLY WHICH THE CONGRESSMEN DISAGREE

Why were the democrats walking through the crowds ? Were they trying to spark an incident ???

There were all sorts of other ways to get to the Chamber which did NOT have the crowds -


I can assure you that with normal protests, the CONGRESSMEN TAKE THOSE ROUTES ALL THE TIME - THOSE ROUTES ARE WHAT THE CONGRESSMEN DO ALL THE TIME.

THE DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSMEN WENT OUT OF THEIR WAY TO GO THROUGH THE CROWDS.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 27, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

I think I'll join others in signing off for the weekend. We're off to see Up In The Air at the Cinema & Drafthouse. I'll leave the echo chamber to its resident filibuster.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | March 27, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

55% of American wants the health care bill REPEALED.

America does NOT want Obama's taxes.

America does NOT want another massive government program.

That is NOT RACISM - it is FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY.

This country is in a recession, we have to concentrate on JOB CREATION - NOT THIS HEALTH CARE BILL.

Obama will go down in HISTORY AS PROLONGING THE RECESSION - HIS REPUTATION WILL FOREVER BE TARNISHED AND HIS PICTURE WILL BE ALONGSIDE HOOVER'S.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 27, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

From Colby's column: Wallace, in a 1963 speech to the political arm of Alabama's Ku Klux Klan, "referred to the recent bombings in Birmingham against prominent black citizens, citing the lack of fatalities as proof that the 'nigras' were throwing the dynamite themselves in order to attract publicity and money."

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Sound familiar? [Re: 2:22 p.m.]

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Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | March 27, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe


You dont want to talk about OBAMA'S MASSIVE NEW GOVERNMENT PROGRAM


OR OBAMA'S MASSIVE NEW TAXES

or the ONE BILLION DOLLARS THAT ATT had to take as a charge this week.

OR THAT OBAMA'S BILL IS A JOBS KILLER.


All you want to talk about is that there were no black people in the crowds this past weekend.

Who cares???

You are implying that because there are no blacks there - that somehow the opinions are invalid.

HOW CAN A BUNCH OF LEMMINGS JUMP OFF A CLIFF AND THEN RACE TOWARD ANOTHER CLIFF ???


That is what you are doing right now.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 27, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

@d:

Guess 37 got what he wanted. What all the troll want. And another blog hits the dust. Oh well. Now they can get back to throwing rocks off highway overpasses. :)

Out.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | March 27, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Journalist Sara Libby weighing in on the racism of the baggers as well:

"As if the last-minute push to get the health care bill passed wasn’t fraught enough with ugliness, Tea Party protesters took things to another level when they hurled hateful epithets – and spit – at one openly gay legislator, Barney Frank, and another, Emanuel Cleaver, who is black.

Even more appalling: Though certain Republican Party leaders rightly condemned the acts, others brushed them aside – Rep. Devin Nunes even not-so-subtly suggested that those who were attacked got what was coming to them because Democrats are trying to push-through health care legislation: “When you use a totalitarian tactics, people, you know, begin to act crazy.” Makes sense. Except, oh wait, if by totalitarian you mean completely legitimate congressional procedure.
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When I attended a meeting of the Coffee Party in Los Angeles, the overwhelming sentiment in the room was people wanting to find a place to condemn the overtly racist mantle the Tea Party had taken up. It’s frustrating that ordinary citizens recognize this easily, but lawmakers whose condemnation would actually mean something cannot."

http://trueslant.com/saralibby/2010/03/21/tea-partys-racist-antics-are-anything-but-isolated/
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With, er, certain exceptions, mainstream journalists are finally calling out the baggers as sociopathic, dangerous bigots. It's about time.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | March 27, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe


So broadwayjoe - is it your position that no white person should be able to exercise Freedom of Speech unless there are black people in the crowd with them, somehow validating their positions ??

How racist is that?


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 27, 2010 2:29 PM | Report abuse

You notice how 37 has driven everyone away, Chris?

Posted by: drindl | March 27, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

...and from Meghan McCain (before the recent bagger hate rallies).
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"According to Meghan McCain, daughter of John McCain, the Tea Party is chock full of racists. Once again appearing on the View, McCain slammed the Tea Party movement, said young people are “turned off” by its “innate racism,” and attacked Sarah Palin, the washed up former vice presidential candidate who was appointed to lead the hijacked Tea Party movement by the Republicans and the corporate media. Palin has called for attacking Iran and has put her support behind Texas governor Rick Perry.

McCain criticized Tom Tancredo, who called for a literacy test for voters during the $500 admission Tea Party fest in Nashville last week."

http://www.infowars.com/mccains-daughter-tea-party-movement-is-racist/

A real "lefty" this Meghan, huh, 37?

Posted by: broadwayjoe | March 27, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

The democrats have now become a Hate Group


How in the world can the democrats claim the Republicans are to blame - when it is the democrats inflaming the situation ???

The health care bill will be DE-FUNDED AND THEN IT WILL BE REPEALED.

The democrats are going to lose the election this year.

IN 2012 - OBAMA WILL BE DRIVEN FROM OFFICE AND THE REPUBLICANS WILL TAKE CONTROL OF BOTH HOUSES OF CONGRESS.

At that point, THE DEMOCRATS WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THIS ATTEMPT TO DESTROY OUR DEMOCRACY AND TURN OUR ECONOMY ON ITS HEAD.

No amount of FALSE CHARGES OF RACISM is going to stop this from happening.

What just happened was the democrats thought that everyone was going to fall in love with the health care program after Obama signed it.


When that did not happen - FALSE CHARGES OF RACISM WENT ALL OVER THE PLACE.

THE DNC AND OFA COULD HAVE SENT THOSE PEOPLE INTO THE CROWD TO SHOUT SLURS - YOU DON'T KNOW.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 27, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

d posted:
"CC doesn't think Republicans will be 'held accountable" for the violence."
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However much he may wish/think that, early indications are that he's wrong:

"A Latino advocacy group has launched an online campaign pressuring top Republican leaders to apologize for "inciting Tea Party racism."

The group Cuentame (Spanish for "tell me") posted a video and petition late Wednesday to its Facebook page in response to ongoing reports that members of the conservative Tea Party movement formed a mob around members of Congress on Saturday in protest of their vote to overhaul health care.

Venerable civil rights leader, Rep. John Lewis, a Democrat from Georgia, along with fellow African-American Congressman Andre Carson, a Democrat from Indiana, say they were both called n***er as they returned from hearing President Barack Obama address Congress at the Capitol.

In the video and petition, Rep. Emanuel Cleaver, an African-American Democrat from Missouri, is seen confronting a demonstrator after being spat upon. (Although detained by U.S. Capitol Police, the individual was later released after Cleaver declined to press charges.) The footage also captures openly gay Rep. Barney Frank, a Democrat from Massachusetts, being called a fa**ot."

http://www.npr.org/blogs/tellmemore/2010/03/gop_pressured_to_end_tea_party.html

Posted by: broadwayjoe | March 27, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

I agree, d.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | March 27, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Our comprehensive search for ANY Fix criticism of the organized hate movement, the Tea Party, since the group was founded by Dale (N-word sign) Robertson, has just been completed. No criticism of any kind was found in our search. Thank you for your patience.

QED. Case closed.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | March 27, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe and drinl


Your side won the health care bill - so why in the world do you insist on now going on a campaign TO CALL EVERYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH YOU A BUNCH OF RACISTS???


This is a disgrace.


Are you angry that the democrats have backed themselves into a corner - and the health care bill is certain to bring heavy defeat for the democrats in November??


Or are you upset there were protestors on Capitol Hill ????

Why in the world do you want to INFLAME THE SITUATION ????

I have to say - this is the DEMOCRATS WHO ARE INFLAMING THE SITUATION -

IT IS TIME FOR A BIG PUSH-BACK.

REPEAL THE HEALTH CARE BILL !!!

ELECT ANYONE BUT OBAMA !!!!!


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 27, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

It's not a "profit" considering the interest payment and damage inflicted to capitalism overall.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 27, 2010 11:05 AM | Report abuse

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Heh. I checked out the link. Citibank is now worth $33B, UP from around $8B total about a year ago. Yeah, just terrible damage inflicted by the Democrats.

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Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | March 27, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Chris Cillizza


There is NO PLACE IN AMERICA for a FALSE CHARGE OF RACISM.

What is happening here is INTIMIDATION POLITICS.

There have been a great deal of voices this week calling for RESTRAINT - and look at these op-ed pieces - these articles are just encouraging people.


I wrote in this blog - in January - that this was a major part of what happened in Massachusetts.

This is not good - the media has allowed the left to use too many SEXUAL SLURS - and this has snowballed into outright HATE FOR PEOPLE WHO DO NOT AGREE WITH THEM.


Posted by: 37thand0street | March 27, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

CC doesn't think Republicans will be 'held accountble" for the violence. Not surprising, since they are never held accountable for anything. They skate, even though they say things like this:

'Last weekend, as the House vote on health reform legislation neared, Republican lawmakers whipped tea party crowds into an angry mob. For instance, Rep. Ted Poe (R-TX) spoke to the crowd with a megaphone, conjuring up debunked conspiracy theories about government spying into medical records and decrying what he called “tyranny.” Rep. Steve King (R-IA) held up a picture of Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) for the crowd, mocking it and “slapping” it. Throughout the day, the tea party protesters accosted Democratic members of Congress with racial and homophobic slurs, and one protester even spat on Rep. Emanuel Cleaver (D-MO).

]Cantor asserted that no lawmaker “would incite threats.” However, ThinkProgress has compiled a short snapshot of Republican lawmakers speeches to angry tea party crowds throughout the year, using extremely violent rhetoric. The compilation below features Rep. Michael McCaul (R-TX), Rep. Joe Barton (R-TX), Rep. Todd Akin (R-MO), Rep. Wally Herger (R-CA), Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN), and King:

MCCAUL: They fought against tyranny and oppressive taxes, do that sound familiar? We’re continuing that revolution right here in Austin, Texas today. Thomas Jefferson said the Tree of Liberty will be fed by the blood of tyrants and patriots. You are the modern day patriots. [...]

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BARTON: What are the homeland security people calling us now?

AUDIENCE: Domestic terrorists! Terrorists!

BARTON: Welcome right-wing activists — is that what we are?

AUDIENCE: Extremists!

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AUDIENCE MEMBER: I’m a proud right-wing terrorist. …

HERGER: Amen god bless you, there’s a great American.

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BACHMANN: I want people in Minnesota armed and dangerous on this issue of the energy tax because we need to fight back.

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Let’s beat that other side to a pulp. Let’s take them out, let’s chase them down.

Watch it:

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/03/26/video-gop-extremism/

Posted by: drindl | March 27, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

...still searching the archive for past Fix criticism of the baggers. It must be there...or maybe not. :)

Posted by: broadwayjoe | March 27, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

drindl

Are you out of your mind? Are you trying to say "if someone doesn't agree with you, their opinion does not deserve to be heard?"

It sure appears to me that Obama and the democrats do not LIKE THE FIRST AMENDMENT.

The democrats have become HOSTILE TO THE FIRST AMENDMENT - THEY ARE SEEKING TO INTIMIDATE THOSE WHO EXERCISE THEIR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS.


This kind of attitude of yours has no place in America.


And if you are paid by the DNC, OFA or any other democratic group, it would be right if you would disclose that to the Washington Post and the other readers and posters on this blog.


Same with broadwayjoe, DDAWD, 12BarBlues - and the other case of left-wingers on this blog.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 27, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Broadwayjoe


It is you and your side who is the HATE GROUP - sorry -


And quoting another person on your side doesn't change how wrong you are.

Your are like the head of the KKK quoting someone else in the KKK.


How bad do you want the November elections to be???

It appears to me that everything the democrats have done since January has only served to make those elections worse for the democrats, not better. THIS LATEST ROUND OF FALSE CHARGES OF RACISM ONLY HURTS YOU AGAIN.

AFTER THE JANUARY ELECTION, I WROTE IN HERE THAT FALSE CHARGES OF RACISM WERE A MAJOR FACTOR IN MASSACHUSETTS.

And you do it again??? What is wrong with you ????

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 27, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse


Chris -- do you not see how this 37 and 0 poster demeans your blog and drives away sane people?

Posted by: drindl | March 27, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse


Chris Cillizza:


This whole idea "if you do not agree with the left, you are a racist" has gotten completely out of control.

This guy Colbert King has got to be completely out of his mind - and whoever at the Washington Post allowed his article today to be printed has got to re-examine what they just did.

This is a pattern - whenever Obama seems to need some political steam - Obama and his people PROVOKE A RACIAL INCIDENT.


THIS CRAP IS COMING STRAIGHT FROM THE DEMOCRATS - AND OBAMA IS PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR POISIONING OUR POLITICAL SYSTEM.

THIS IS AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE - THIS KIND OF DISCOURSE HAS NO PLACE IN AMERICA.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 27, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

More from Fix coworker Colbert King on the hate group, the baggers:

"And they are consequential. Without folks like them, there would be no Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity or Pat Buchanan. There would never have been a George Corley Wallace, the Alabama governor dubbed by Pulitzer Prize-winning author Diane McWhorter in a 2008 Slate article as "the godfather, avatar of a national uprising against the three G's of government, Godlessness, and gun control."

Hence, an explanation for the familiarity of faces: today's Tea Party adherents are George Wallace legacies.

They, like Wallace's followers, smolder with anger. They fear they are being driven from their rightful place in America.

They see the world through the eyes of the anti-civil rights alumni. "Washington, D.C." now, as then, is regarded as the Great Satan."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/26/AR2010032603335.html?hpid=opinionsbox1

Well done, Mr. King.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | March 27, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe


Yes, you are wrong - and the left-wingers you mention are WRONG too.

What are you seeking to do here - start a major fight in this country ????

First, cut out the SEXUAL SLURS which amount to HATE SPEECH.


The American system of government is based on COMPROMISE - SOMETHING YOU HAVE LOST SIGHT OF.


You need to get a life.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 27, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

...still looking for past Fix criticism of the baggers. No luck so far. But we'll keep looking...Oh, well.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | March 27, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe


Words can not describe how wrong you are - and how wrong Colbert King is and Eugene Robinson.


Just because you have a few people who belong in the asylum with you, that doesn't mean you are right.

Again - go to ANY JAIL - FIND A FEW BLACKS WHO ARE CRIMINALS - AND LET'S CHARACTERIZE ALL BLACKS BY THE ACTIONS OF THOSE FEW.

Is that what your thinking is ????

You are very sick. And you are hurting the country - you are starting a fight which you will never win. You are a complete idiot.

This is why you lost the election in Massachusetts.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 27, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Post reporter Dana Milbank, Post reporter Gene Robinson, NYT reporter Frank Rich, commentator Janeane Garofalo, analyst Keith Olbermann, and many other mainstream voices have called out the baggers as racists. Guess we all have it wrong on the baggers... :)

Posted by: broadwayjoe | March 27, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

...more minorities? As Gene Robinson pointed out, there aren't any among the baggers. LOL.

Now searching the Post archives for past Fix criticism of the baggers. I'll let you know when I find any...

Posted by: broadwayjoe | March 27, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

The MAJOR PROBLEM is YOUR SIDE SEES EVERYTHING THROUGH A RACIAL LENS.


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Posted by: 37thand0street

more funny. why is it that wingers are so afflicted with projection? i guess it's just that they are so completely orwellianized, their 'logic' so warped and inverted.

Posted by: drindl | March 27, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

"It's not a "profit" considering the interest payment and damage inflicted to capitalism overall."

this is the funniest thing I've read in a long time. I don't even know where to start.

Posted by: drindl | March 27, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

s2, great catch! Hard to say whether it's CF8 but it could be.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | March 27, 2010 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Broadwayjoe


I get it - somehow the color of their skin makes their opinions illegitimate.

Is that your position ????


I heard a similar comment on MSNBC - that "only" if there were more minorities in their ranks, then their opinions would be valid - but since we don't see enough minorities, that means there is something wrong with this group.

The MAJOR PROBLEM is YOUR SIDE SEES EVERYTHING THROUGH A RACIAL LENS.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 27, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Broadwayjoe


It is people like you and your friends who are the HATE GROUP -


Clearly, from your postings you don't like these people.

You refer to them with SEXUAL SLURS -

In Canada, your postings would be illegal.

Seriously broadwayjoe YOU ARE THE BIGOT - you have to stop - show some respect to people who are exercising their First Amendment rights.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 27, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

just fyi:

"My friend who lives in Las Vegas wrote me yesterday and had this to say:

Tomorrow the Tea Baggers vomit all over Searchlight, Nevada, hometown of Sen. Harry Reid. Poor little Searchlight with their less than 1,000 population! Our little rally in support of Sen. Reid will be approximately two miles away. With only 600 of us to their 10,000, we'll be seriously outnumbered, but hey, we couldn't afford to pay the way of everyone in the country who wanted to come to Vegas for the day like they did. I'm not foolish enough to think we won't encounter any of baggers along the two-lane road in and out of Searchlight but we rented all the public venues except for the one they're using, and we've got a commitment from Metro to have "dozens" (hear that? That's the sound of a decidedly underwelmed sigh of relief) of uniformed officers out there to make sure they don't venture anywhere they're not supposed to. Searchlight - one restaurant, one McDonalds, and no public toilets. This should be real interesting.

Did I mention clown show?

But, actually, there will be public toilets. 38 of them according to the Las Vegas Review-Journal. That's um ... divide by two...carry the four... one Port-A-Potty for every 263 Teabaggers. Man, I hope they don't drink too much tea!"

And a quote from a participant:

"We're Republican by registration, but I'd even vote for a communist right now if they would start to change the way we're running the country," Halfpenny said, adding he thinks Democrats in power are leading the nation toward socialism, a Tea Party lament. "We need to get our Constitution back."

Posted by: drindl | March 27, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Jake's live postings seem pretty interesting - keep them up Jake - I hope you get a signal in Searchlight - you probably will at least by the highway.


Where are you driving from again ??


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 27, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

While this space is focused on "Dan Coats, Anti-Obama" and other such things, Fix coworkers have been writing about the growing hate group, the tea baggers.

Fix coworkers Dana Milbank and Pulitzer Prize winner Eugene Robinson have already sounded the alarm about these bigots. Today, it's Colbert King. An excerpt:

The angry faces at Tea Party rallies are eerily familiar. They resemble faces of protesters lining the street at the University of Alabama in 1956 as Autherine Lucy, the school's first black student, bravely tried to walk to class.
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Those same jeering faces could be seen gathered around the Arkansas National Guard troopers who blocked nine black children from entering Little Rock's Central High School in 1957.
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Tea Party members, as with their forerunners who showed up at the University of Alabama and Central High School, behave as they do because they have been culturally conditioned to believe they are entitled to do whatever they want, and to whomever they want, because they are the "real Americans," while all who don't think or look like them are not."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/26/AR2010032603335.html?hpid=opinionsbox1
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Brilliant stuff from Colby.

We now return you to "Dan Coats, anti-Obama," free Pawlenty and Romney ads, and free Charlie (GWB's Iraqi war = BHO's HCR) Cook Report cut-and-pastes. Sorry for the interruption...

Posted by: broadwayjoe | March 27, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

I love the smell of socialism in the morning. It smells like --victory!

How many of you beleive jake is driving to searchlight in his head?

Posted by: drindl | March 27, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

oh look, Joke can post while on the highway... amazin, huh?

Posted by: drindl | March 27, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

It's not a "profit" considering the interest payment and damage inflicted to capitalism overall.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 27, 2010 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Comrade Obama has betrayed his fellow socialists. Rather than taking control of the corrupt Federalist banks, they're selling off their shares. And at an evil profit of $8B. The PEOPLE will NOT be BETRAYED!!!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/26/AR2010032604938.html?hpid=topnews

Posted by: JakeD3 | March 27, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

My wife is driving until the outlet stores.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 27, 2010 10:50 AM | Report abuse

*smiling*

have a fun weekend

Perhaps the last great day of our ski season, beckons...

http://www.skihood.com/The-Mountain/Conditions

Posted by: shrink2 | March 27, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

ChrisF will be too modest to claim the piece or his pseudonym, Shrink. The display of modesty will be in the form of a post ringing with effusive praise for you and TNY.

Jake will print the article and distribute it in Searchlight if he can find a printer who will take the .pdf on a thumb drive. When the crowd cheers in Searchlight it will be attributed to the presence of the former governor, but we will know it is the thrilled response to the tale of the killer gay warrior.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | March 27, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

Morning Jake,
Hey, I thought you driving over to jump onto the trash heap of history.

Posted by: shrink2 | March 27, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Wrong again, shrink2.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 27, 2010 10:13 AM | Report abuse

Its great to wake up to in country sliding toward socialism.

Like most literates, I love reading The New Yorker. I'll read articles on topics I don't and never will care about, just to appreciate the writing, the editing too.

Today I think may have discovered the true identity of Chris Fox. That whole Vietnam, parrots, too much coffee and cheap video game writer schtick conceals his identity as a writer and frequent contributor to TNY.

The vicious sarcasm, the sharp style, the politics, it is him, Noacoler wrote this piece.

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/2010/03/22/100322sh_shouts_rudnick

Posted by: shrink2 | March 27, 2010 9:40 AM | Report abuse

mark_in_austin:

The wife and I are just headed out the door to drive to Searchlight ...

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 27, 2010 9:05 AM | Report abuse

Best line in the Searchlight-TEA story:

"This is the most the Republicans have done for the economy in a long time," Sweet quipped.

Jake, it is very early in the morning in SD and I hope you are rising to a good day with family rather than losing sleep over politics.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | March 27, 2010 7:53 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 27, 2010 7:17 AM | Report abuse

meh, there's a difference between saying the bill is dead and it should be dead. Two months ago, I thought it was dead too. Brown had won the election and the Dems really seemed like they had no stomach for the fight. The real idiots are the ones who were saying it was dead two weeks ago.

Even as one of the biggest Obama fans there is, I underestimated him.

Posted by: DDAWD | March 27, 2010 12:49 AM | Report abuse

we gonna rock rock rock rock all night long.  Bill Maher:

"New Rule: You can't use the statement "there will be no cooperation for the rest of the year" as a threat if there was no cooperation in the first half of the year. Here's a word the president should take out of his teleprompter: bipartisanship.

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Two months ago, conservative Fred Barnes wrote , "The health care bill is dead with not the slightest prospect of resurrection." Well, if it's dead, you just got your azs kicked by a zombie named Nancy Pelosi. Seriously, the last time a Democrat showed balls like that John Edwards' girlfriend was filming it. Make all the botox jokes and she-shops-too-much jokes you want, but this is the biggest political victory a woman has ever achieved in America. Yes, Nancy Pelosi likes nice clothes. So does Sarah Palin. The difference is Nancy Pelosi pays for hers.

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Democrats in America were put on earth to do one thing: drag the ignorant hillbilly half of this country into the next century, which in their case is the 19th -- and by passing health care, the Democrats saved their brand. A few months ago, Sarah Palin mockingly asked them, "How's that hopey-changey thing working out for ya?" Great, actually. Thanks for asking. And how's that whole Hooked on Phonics thing working out for you?"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-maher/new-rule-you-cant-use-the_b_515354.html

Posted by: Noacoler | March 27, 2010 12:37 AM | Report abuse

The last thing on Earth I would try to do is try to impress someone named Fairlington Blade.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 27, 2010 12:04 AM | Report abuse

OK I tell you what guys - Im going back to doing whatever I want.

Posted by: 37thand0street | March 26, 2010 9:01 PM | Report abuse

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Given that the I will behave phase lasted precisely 25 minutes after CC noted your behavior, no one on the blog is terribly impressed. And now I anticipate the usual insults and insinuations.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | March 27, 2010 12:01 AM | Report abuse

well, Duke pulled it off. That sucks

Posted by: DDAWD | March 26, 2010 11:59 PM | Report abuse

Stupak on why he voted for HCR.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/26/AR2010032602921.html?hpid=opinionsbox1

Part of it was that he was disgusted at groups that would use him and the pro-life agenda as tools to derail health care

Posted by: DDAWD | March 26, 2010 11:46 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: DDAWD | March 26, 2010 11:38 PM | Report abuse

Poor lonely Ped.

Posted by: Moonbat | March 26, 2010 11:20 PM | Report abuse

@DDAWD: hasn't it been just a wonderful week, watching their heads explode? It's almost like they really believe that socialist takeover crap

Posted by: Noacoler | March 26, 2010 11:13 PM | Report abuse

'Once Noacoler is hanging in a pit in Vietnam, then maybe I will be happy.

.Posted by: 37thand0street |'

I'm just saying, what?
You want barbecue?

Man, I knew your folks were bloodthirsty, but isn't there a limit?

Posted by: drindl | March 26, 2010 10:48 PM | Report abuse

Noa, Republicans are also going to start going back to acting like recalcitrant azsholes because Dems poisoned the well.

teeheheeeheeee

Posted by: DDAWD | March 26, 2010 9:57 PM | Report abuse

37th is just mad cause he's a dook fan! GOOOOOO BOILERMAKERS!!!!1!1!! WOOO

Crazy end to the Tennessee game. I'm surprised that this is the Vols' first elite eight. They've been good for a few years.

Man, this is the first time I've ever taken shots and inhaled cigarette smoke while on a run. At a street corner waiting for the light to change. Two girls are standing outside a bar there and start talking to me. Eventually they convince me (not that hard) to come in and have a few drinks.

Man, I love this city, haha!

Posted by: DDAWD | March 26, 2010 9:36 PM | Report abuse

Going back? When did you stop?

If there was any substance in your posts you'd get responses. People would agree or disagree. The reason nobody responds is because your posts are nuts. You don't back anything with facts, you can't distinguish fact from opinion anyway, and your formatting tricks are immature.

I don't get the hanging over a pit thing. What are you thinking of, some Chas. Addams New Yorker cartoon from the 50s about witch doctors?

Posted by: Noacoler | March 26, 2010 9:23 PM | Report abuse


OK I tell you what guys - Im going back to doing whatever I want.

You all violate your own rules all the time.

Once Noacoler is hanging in a pit in Vietnam, then maybe I will be happy.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 26, 2010 9:01 PM | Report abuse

mark_in_austin


The vast majority of businesses in this country now have HIGHER LABOR COSTS -


If an employer has over a certain amount of employees, there is a penalty or the employer has to contribute toward the health care costs.


It is something like $2000.00 per employee.

To be honest, I haven't seen a comprehensive listing of all the provisions - because what we have now is the Senate bill plus the "fixes" - and most Congressment don't even know what's in that.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 26, 2010 9:00 PM | Report abuse

mark_in_austin


The vast majority of businesses in this country now have HIGHER LABOR COSTS -


If an employer has over a certain amount of employees, there is a penalty or the employer has to contribute toward the health care costs.


It is something like $2000.00 per employee.

To be honest, I haven't seen a comprehensive listing of all the provisions - because what we have now is the Senate bill plus the "fixes" - and most Congressment don't even know what's in that.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 26, 2010 9:00 PM | Report abuse

DDAWD

Who said I was a good poster - no one.


What planet are you on ?

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 26, 2010 8:54 PM | Report abuse

And not "once every five minutes," 37th, once, period.

And, again, not once per thread, but once, period.

This is a reading medium, it's not TV. Anyone who misses the post can scroll down.

And quit it with the clever spacing.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 26, 2010 8:52 PM | Report abuse

We need a completely different ECONOMIC PROGRAM - ONE WHICH CREATES INCENTIVES TO HIRING.

Not Obama's plan which increases the costs of hiring.

See - this is the problem - the economic recovery simply is NOT Obama's priority - Obama's priority is putting some paragraph in some history book somewhere for himself.

Did Obama EVER consider that some crazy board - like the school book board down in Texas could completely wipe out any reference to this bill - and instead insert some picture of Ronald Reagan smiling?

Obama is banking on his version of history - there could be some other version of history written in there.

Like one which puts Obama's picture next to Hoover.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 26, 2010 8:49 PM | Report abuse

For small businesses exempt from the "employer mandate" that want to offer health coverage and do so now [a bunch of my clients] they will be getting a huge tax credit that will allow them to hire more. That is why I favored the SB.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | March 26, 2010 8:47 PM | Report abuse

"DDAWD


What about all the other comments - those completely devoid of any substance ?

Posted by: 37thand0street "

Your comments are usually devoid of substance too. I don't care that you post them. Just post them once, though. All the other devoid posters just post a point once. All the GOOD posters just post a point once.

Posted by: DDAWD | March 26, 2010 8:36 PM | Report abuse

37th, don't try and force conversation. If people are interested in what you say, they will respond. If not, then not.

Much appreciated, man.

Posted by: DDAWD | March 26, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse

DDAWD


What about all the other comments - those completely devoid of any substance ?

Posted by: 37thand0street | March 26, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse

shut up, burnout

Posted by: Noacoler | March 26, 2010 8:31 PM | Report abuse

cmon, 37th. We'll put up with your caps and excessive spacing, but don't flood the place with the same point over and over, please?

Posted by: DDAWD | March 26, 2010 8:31 PM | Report abuse

WHY do I repeat myself ??? At least my posts are of substance - and they can spark conversation.


Look at all the other comments here -

Isn't it better to repeat a comment which actually says something - rather than post a comment which is simply designed to harrass other posters ?

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 26, 2010 8:31 PM | Report abuse


Obama's SMOOT-HAWLEY - the wrong program which places a MASSIVE DRAG ON THE ECONOMIC RECOVERY.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 26, 2010 8:28 PM | Report abuse

"Broadwayjoe and DDAWD - the whole crew - how much more does it COST TO HIRE SOMEONE NOW ????"

tree-fiddy

http://southparkstudios-intl.mtvnimages.com/shared/sps/images/shows/southpark/vertical_video/import/season_03/sp_0303_08_v6.jpg

Posted by: DDAWD | March 26, 2010 8:24 PM | Report abuse

Might as well be a home game for Baylor. 46-17 at halftime.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | March 26, 2010 8:16 PM | Report abuse

@bwj:

37th hits first because zouk has to spraypaint

RAMON Y MARIA POR VIDA

all the way down

Oh, wait, wrong joke.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 26, 2010 8:14 PM | Report abuse


Did I mention today that Obama's health care bill is a JOBS KILLER ?


Did I mention that 3500 companies are going to have HIGHER COSTS FOR HIRING - AND those companies might have an incentive to put their retirees onto Medicare (part D) - which will increase the FEDERA; DEFICIT.

Did I mention that Obama is just like HOOVER - Obama always likes to compare himself to famous people - so he is just like HOOVER - WITH THE WRONG ECONOMIC POLICIES AT THE WRONG TIME.

Broadwayjoe and DDAWD - the whole crew - how much more does it COST TO HIRE SOMEONE NOW ????

Can you answer that question - or are you so IRRESPONSIBLE WITH YOUR COUNTRY THAT YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW ???

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 26, 2010 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Some leftists might say America went backwards with Obama and the liberals.

A McCain Palin victory could have been The Disaster. It could have finished the revanchist fantasy, the Reagan nostalgia.

It is hard to even imagine McCain as President and Palin, day after day, embarrassing the English language, among other crashes.

Posted by: shrink2 | March 26, 2010 8:11 PM | Report abuse

The answer?

Heck if I know. But who cares? :)

Posted by: broadwayjoe | March 26, 2010 8:08 PM | Report abuse

Assume the fake 37 weighs 300 lbs and mooned/zouk weighs 150. If both jump from the Empire State Building at the same time, which one will hit the ground first?

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zouk hits first

37th has to yell something, the same thing, at each window on the way down

Posted by: Noacoler | March 26, 2010 8:06 PM | Report abuse

Loser:

John McCain. So clueless that he's campaigning with Sarah Palin, who unreadiness and stupidity finished off his faltering campaign in 2008.

Wow did we ever dodge a bullet with those two.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 26, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe


The answer is: I don't hit the ground because I have wings - I am an angel.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 26, 2010 7:56 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe


The answer is: I don't hit the ground because I have wings - I am an angel.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 26, 2010 7:56 PM | Report abuse

Agreed, dd.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | March 26, 2010 7:54 PM | Report abuse

Cupcakes: Try the ones from Best Buns in Shirlington. Better than G'town Cupcakes, hands down.

Posted by: RJD1 | March 26, 2010 7:49 PM | Report abuse

Winners:
Purdue
Me for having the most incredible New Orleans weather.

Losers:
Scheyer
Singler
Zoobeck
Smith
the Plumlees
Krzyzewski
All of the above losers shall shed many tears tonight
That six pack of Abita Amber in my fridge

Posted by: DDAWD | March 26, 2010 7:42 PM | Report abuse

James O'Keefe news:

NEW ORLEANS — Federal prosecutors filed reduced charges Friday against conservative activist James O'Keefe and three others who were accused of trying to tamper with the phones in Sen. Mary Landrieu's New Orleans office.

The new charges are contained in a bill of information, which can only be filed with a defendant's consent and typically signals a plea deal. The new filing charges the four with entering a federal building under false pretenses, a misdemeanor. They had been arrested Jan. 25 on felony charges.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | March 26, 2010 7:32 PM | Report abuse

William Bennett-style "thought experiment":

Assume the fake 37 weighs 300 lbs and mooned/zouk weighs 150. If both jump from the Empire State Building at the same time, which one will hit the ground first?

Answer in a bit.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | March 26, 2010 7:09 PM | Report abuse

Winners

BHO
HCR
Pelosi
David Frum
Eugene Robinson
Eldrick Woods
Canada (for booting out Coulter for planned hate speech)
"Transporter 1" and "Transporter 3"
Gregory Charles Royal (for making the, er, effort)

Losers

Boehner and orange tans
Baggers
Bigots who spit on congressmen
The fake 37
Blow-der
Juan Williams (natch)
Drudge "imitators"
"Bombshell" McGee
Zouk's web "photos"

Posted by: broadwayjoe | March 26, 2010 6:59 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe


There you go again - criticizing other posters.


Did you tell the Washington Post what to print again today???

When are you going to shape up ??/

Are you going to make some more sexual slurs ???


Posted by: 37thand0street | March 26, 2010 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Palin in that leather jacket with all the sippers ... she's got like a "Bombshell" McGee thing going.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | March 26, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

@noa: the fake 37 really shaped up--NOT.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | March 26, 2010 6:42 PM | Report abuse

"The protests and violence that have followed the vote haven't been particularly helpful to Republicans but I'm not sure they will ultimately be held accountable for it."
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You may wish that, but there WILL be accountability. We commend to your reading a column today in...the Washington Post by a coworker Eugene Robinson. An excerpt:

"Let's not pretend anymore that the tea party movement is harmless. The right to protest is one of our cherished American freedoms. But there is no right to vandalism, no right to threaten our elected officials' lives. Someone is going to get hurt unless those who lead the movement -- and those who exploit it -- start acting like responsible adults.
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And does anyone doubt that the movement attracts the kind of people who take these words literally?

Organizations such as the Anti-Defamation League and the Southern Poverty Law Center have documented the troubling rise of right-wing militia and "patriot" groups. Political leaders who appropriate and reinforce the extremists' language -- who urge angry people to "reload" -- are being reckless. They must stop this madness before someone gets hurt."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/25/AR2010032502413.html?hpid=opinionsbox1

Posted by: broadwayjoe | March 26, 2010 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Bismon,

Thanks for responding to my early post on a different thread and I apologize for not getting back sooner (I have been busy with some students). It was thoughtful and I definitely agreed with your first two points (spot on…however, I would add all politics is local so having no cohesive voice is not as necessary in the Midterm elections but it would help enormously). I will have to say I will disagree with your third point about accomplishments and HCR law passed. The law has major weaknesses mostly in controlling cost. Anyway have a great weekend.

Posted by: sliowa1 | March 26, 2010 6:25 PM | Report abuse

As if anyone reads any posts from this burnout

Posted by: Noacoler | March 26, 2010 6:11 PM | Report abuse

bsimon1


There is no way around it - Obama's arrogant insistance on this health care program is going to PROLONG THE RECESSION - AND LOWER HIRING.

The democrats are hurting everyone with this health care program.

The democrats simply do not know how to run an economy - they point to the budget under Clinton - failing to mention that there was a Republican Congress which balanced the budget - and forced cuts on Clinton.

So what is up with Obama "pivoting to the economy?"

Obama's health care program IS HIS ECONOMIC PROGRAM - and it is A JOBS KILLER.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 26, 2010 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Obama's health care program is a drag on the economy - ATT today said the health care bill will cost them One Billion Dollars this year.


How is ATT supposed to hire more people when they have these additional costs ???


In addition, the health care bill is going to cost businesses more because the businesses are going to have to buy LARGER HEALTH INSURANCE PACKAGES WITH HIGHER COSTS.

This is going to place a MASSIVE DRAG ON HIRING.

Obama has become Hoover - the guy who put the wrong economic policy in at exactly the wrong time for the economy.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 26, 2010 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Republicans are shooting themselves in the foot by blocking jobs and unemployment legislation-Bunning, Coburn, who next will try to stop help for the un and underemployed, and don't think the Democrats won't paint the G-No-P as the party that bailed out Wall St but won't help Main St.

Posted by: mesondk | March 26, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse

"Dictator Obama." Another paranoid drool case frantically pasting his own posts in every thread. Whatsa matta baby, afraid someone out there won't read it?

Some non-drool non-GOP-puff news worth reading:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/26/AR2010032602031.html?hpid=topnews

Finally some economic stimulus from the bottom instead of from the top. Unemployed to get breaks on mortgage payments. Expect the filth to roll their eyes at the TYranny TYranny TYranny of "distorting the marketplace" and "rewarding risk." (spits)

Posted by: Noacoler | March 26, 2010 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Dictator Obama and his comrades and operatives accuse the victims of their Obamacare scam, the American people, of violence!

Imitating Hugo Chavez and the rest of the Marxist thugs, they vilify and demonize those who try to defend themselves.

The American people must not allow Obama and his comrades to intimidate and prevent them from defending themselves – and their children and grandchildren – from the abomination of Obamacare and socialism/Marxism!

Obama and his comrades and operatives are using Alinksy tactics to smear and vilify those who defend themselves. They accuse them of violence! It's communists and Marxists like Obama's buddies who use violence!

For example, Obama's buddy William Ayers (at whose house Barack Obama launched his campaign for state senate in 1995), bombed countless locations trying to destroy our country and NEVER expressed a shred of regret for any of his crimes! He’s said that he wished he and his group had set more bombs!

Here's a timeline of crimes of Obama’s buddy William Ayers:

7 October 1969 – Bombing of Haymarket Police Statue in Chicago, apparently as a “kickoff” for the “Days of Rage” riots in the city October 8–11, 1969. The Weathermen later claim credit for the bombing in their book, “Prairie Fire.”

8 October-11, 1969 – The “Days of Rage” riots occur in Chicago in which 287 Weatherman members from throughout the country were arrested and a large amount of property damage was done.

6 December 1969 – Bombing of several Chicago Police cars parked in a precinct parking lot at 3600 North Halsted Street, Chicago. The WUO stated in their book “Prairie Fire” that they had did the explosion.

27 December-31, 1969 – Weathermen hold a “War Council” meeting in Flint, MI, where they finalize their plans to submerge into an underground status from which they plan to commit strategic acts of sabotage against the government. Thereafter they are called the “Weather Underground Organization” (WUO).

13 February 1970 – Bombing of several police vehicles of the Berkeley, California, Police Department.

16 February 1970 – Bombing of Golden Gate Park branch of the San Francisco Police Department, killing one officer and injuring a number of other policemen.

And much more... http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/a_timeline_of_crime_for_obamas_buddy_william_ayers/

Posted by: AntonioSosa | March 26, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Zouk remains incapable of composing his own posts:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-03-25/can-this-man-save-the-gop/

Some may wonder what the chicken and egg relationship is between the slimeball conservatism we see so much of here and the low intelligence of people who can't write worth a crap; I don't wonder at all. The GOP attracts the stupid.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 26, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

zouk writes
"People who know Paul Ryan say he will be president one day. 2012 I predict."

Yes, he will take over for President Giuliani.

Ryan may reach higher office one day. But he will have to become a bit more consistent to make that happen. You can't argue for privatizing Medicare one day, and claim to be its savior the next, when voting against eliminating the wasteful Medicare Advantage program.

Posted by: bsimon1 | March 26, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Ryan outlined bold and muscular policy prescriptions for America’s most pressing problems in his “Roadmap for America’s Future." Among the things his plan would do:

• Simplify the tax code: 10 percent of incomes up to $100,000 for joint filers and $50,000. for single filers; 25 percent on higher incomes (or you can continue to pay under current system). No deductions.
• Eliminate taxes on interest, capital gains, dividends and death.
• Preserve Medicare and Social Security benefits for anyone currently 55 or older, but replace Medicare benefits for people under 55 with a voucher that would average $11,000 a year that people could use to buy private insurance.
• Achieve universal access to affordable health care with guaranteed refundable tax credits ($2,300 for individuals, $5,700 for families) for portable coverage in any state.
• Allow workers 55 and under to invest more than one-third of Social Security taxes in personal retirement accounts.
• Raise the retirement age. Finally, we’ve got a politician bold enough to propose this obvious solution.

People who know Paul Ryan say he will be president one day. 2012 I predict. by then the ruin and misery of socialism will be apparent for all to see.

Posted by: Zouk_is_King | March 26, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

"Health-care costs may shave as much as $14 billion from U.S. corporate profits, according to an estimate by benefits consulting firm Towers Watson."

This is through the elimination of a tax write-off that amounts to undue government influence in a market. I would think conservatives would applaud the elimination of such blatant market manipulation. Or don't you stand for that anymore?

Posted by: bsimon1 | March 26, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Health-care costs may shave as much as $14 billion from U.S. corporate profits, according to an estimate by benefits consulting firm Towers Watson.

One thing you can say about liberals, they sure spread it around fairly -

EVERYONE LOSES.

Posted by: Zouk_is_King | March 26, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Interesting. Here's some of the 'more' to the story.

"Among its many changes, the new health-care law eliminated a tax deduction that companies used to cut the cost of drug-benefit programs for retired workers.

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Under the old law, companies received a federal subsidy worth up $1,330 per retiree if they provided former workers with drug-care benefits. At the same time, however, companies could deduct the value of the subsidy from their taxable income.

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White House spokesman Robert Gibbs on Thursday said the government merely eliminated a tax loophole that effectively allowed a company to benefit twice from one law."

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/att-sees-1-billion-write-down-tied-to-health-law-2010-03-26?reflink=MW_news_stmp


So, the way Gibbs is characterizing it, the companies first get a $1330 subsidy from the gov't to provide retirees benefits, and if they do so, they ALSO got to write off their expenses of providing that subsidy. That does sound like double-dipping.

Repealing the tax write-off sounds like a good policy to me; eliminating the subsidy instead would be an OK alternative. What am I missing?

Posted by: bsimon1 | March 26, 2010 4:49 PM | Report abuse

"How in the world can ATT hire more people when their labor costs just SKYROCKETED???"

Good question. Lets see if there's more to the story.

Bloomberg says:
"A change in the tax treatment of Medicare subsidies triggered the non-cash expense, Dallas-based AT&T said today in a regulatory filing."

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=avzJQOAr5ro0&pos=2

So... This is the elimination of a tax break related to Medicare subsidies. Sounds interesting. Must learn more.

So far, it sounds like its not a cost of labor, as labor doesn't require Medicare subsidies.

Posted by: bsimon1 | March 26, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Yeah and BUSH IS THE OLD DUSTBUSTER THAT BROKE AND LEAKED.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 26, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Obama's health care bill is a DRAG on the economy -


ATT just announced that Obama's health care program is going to cost them ONE BILLION DOLLARS THIS YEAR.

How in the world can ATT hire more people when their labor costs just SKYROCKETED???


This is Obama's SMOOT-HAWLEY - the wrong program which places a MASSIVE DRAG ON THE ECONOMIC RECOVERY.

OBAMA IS THE NEW HOOVER -


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 26, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

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