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Morning Fix: A Sarah Palin Rebound?



Is a Sarah Palin comeback in the works? Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images

After enduring months of derision within Republican circles for her role as the party's 2008 vice presidential nominee and her uneven performance as a national figure this year, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin is experiencing something of a rebound among the D.C. chattering class in the 48 hours since the release of a very tough profile on her in Vanity Fair magazine.

In the wake of that piece -- a 9,800 word opus penned by Todd Purdum -- a number of operatives who worked closely with Palin during the 2008 campaign have reached out to the Fix to defend the governor.

"She's a fine person, with unique and unteachable political skills," said Mark Salter, a senior adviser to Sen. John McCain's (Ariz.) presidential bid who was deeply involved with the Palin pick. "I'm sure she has a future if she wants one."

Palin got a vote of confidence from Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele as well on Wednesday during an appearance on Fox & Friends.

"Sarah Palin will be a leader in this party," said Steele during an appearance Wednesday on "Morning Joe." "She has the ability to galvanize the base, and even folks outside the base. "And I think all the hindsight second guessing and back looking does nothing."

That sentiment -- boiled down to "enough is enough" -- seemed to be the prevalent opinion of Republicans in the aftermath of the Purdum piece, which contains a series of background quotes from former McCain-Palin operatives that suggest that the Alaska governor was fundamentally unfit for the job to which she aspired.

Jason Recher, who served as a senior adviser to Palin and her trip director for the general election and has remained supportive of the Alaska governor, told the Fix that he spent two and a half months traveling with Palin and "grew to like and respect her even more as did many of the folks on the plane." Reche added that the people attacking Palin should "stand up and prove them on the record or move on with their lives like Sarah Palin has."

To be sure, there are still plenty of Republicans involved in the 2008 campaign who roll their eyes when asked about Palin's readiness to be vice president or the possibility of her running in 2012 for the top job.

But, the glut of anti-Palin quotes and stories that have bounced about the Washington echo chamber for the better part of the last six months -- Is she coming to the congressional fundraising dinner? Why is she fighting with David Letterman? What is going on with her daughter -- seem to be having the cumulative effect of turning Palin into a sympathetic figure (at least at the moment) among the GOP operative class.

It's not uncommon for a series of negative stories -- no matter how much truth is contained therein -- to have a boomerang effect on the person at the center of the controversy.

One needs only look back as far as the impeachment of former President Bill Clinton to see that phenomenon at work. The wall to wall coverage of Clinton had the effect -- over time -- of convincing people that Clinton had been beaten up enough and turning public opinion to his side.

That is what appears to be happening at the moment for Palin. The issue is whether she can take advantage of the softening of operatives' attitude toward her to re-introduce herself to the political set in Washington.

Although Palin will almost certainly run for president as an outsider to Washington (if she runs at all), she will need advocates inside the Beltway to help her raise money and keep a lid on the background sniping that is part and parcel of any presidential bid.

Palin may -- finally -- be understanding that reality.

Fred Malek, who served as a national finance committee chair for McCain's presidential bid, said that he recently hosted a foreign policy lunch at Palin's request in which she mixed with the likes of former secretary of defense Frank Carlucci and former deputy secretary of state Strobe Talbott.

"She has been vastly underestimated as a result of one or two interviews," said Malek of Palin. "I have spent a lot of time around her and can state unequivocally she is smart, perceptive, curious, and absolutely on top of issues like energy which are pivotal to her role as Alaska's Governor. "

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1. A "major operation" launched in Afghanistan.
2. Franken's task: be serious.
3. Sestak's In. (Again)
4. So is Maloney.
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Whitman's Haul: Former eBay president Meg Whitman (R) brought in $6.5 million in donations for her 2010 gubernatorial campaign over the last five months of her candidacy and seeded that haul with $4 million in personal cash -- bringing her over $10 million raised since the start of the year. "There is no more certain measure of enthusiasm for a candidate than heavy early campaign contributions," said former governor Pete Wilson who is Whitman's campaign chair. Whitman's take is impressive but, as anyone who has ever covered or worked on a California race knows, it will take much (MUCH) more money for her to get known across the state. The good thing for Whitman is she has lots and lots of cash and, according to those affiliated with the campaign, a willingness to spend it. Whitman faces state Insurance Commissioner Steve Poizner, who has raised $1.2 million in the first six months of the year, and former Rep. Tom Campbell in the Republican primary.

Alabama Gov Primary Clears...: Alabama Rep. Artur Davis (D) took a big step to winning the Democratic gubernatorial nomination on Wednesday when state Supreme Court Chief Justice Sue Bell Cobb decided against a bid. "While this love for our state and encouragement caused me to seriously consider running for governor, I have been privileged to serve as Chief Justice of the Alabama Supreme Court and plan to remain in this position," Cobb said in a statement. That leaves Davis, who is seeking to become the first black governor of Alabama, and state Agriculture Commissioner Ron Sparks in the Democratic race. Davis has released internal polling that suggests he is a strong favorite for the nod.

....And So Does Rhode Island Primary: Lt. Gov. Elizabeth Roberts, one of three statewide elected Democrats expected to seek the open governor's seat in 2010, instead plans to run for reelection to her current post. In a statement announcing the move, Roberts, who had already formed a campaign consulting team for a gubernatorial race said she was staying out of the race to focus full time on bringing health care to every Rhode Islander. With Roberts out of the race, state Attorney General Patrick Lynch and state Treasurer Frank Caprio are headed toward a fight for the Democratic nod. Former senator Lincoln Chafee has already said he will run as an independent for governor and state Rep. Joe Trillo is the almost-certain Republican nominee.

Click It!: Wondering why there is trepidation in Republican circles about the possibility of a Gov. Andre Bauer? Watch this ad run by Bauer's 2006 Democratic opponent and produced by Allan Crow.

Blunt Brings on Burson: Burson Snyder, who spent several years working for Rep. Roy Blunt's leadership office on Capitol Hill, has signed on to serve as communications director for Blunt's Senate bid in 2010 Blunt's official office. Snyder spent a brief time working for former Sen. Fred Thompson's (Tenn.) presidential bid in 2008 (who didn't?!). Snyder joins Blunt campaign on the upswing. Blunt announced Wednesday he had raised more than $1 million in between April 1 and June 30 -- a vast improvement over his weak first fundraising quarter -- and appears to be on the verge of clearing the primary field with former state Treasurer Sarah Steelman leaning against a run.

Sununu Out, Tausch Almost In: To the surprise of no one, former New Hampshire senator John Sununu (R) announced last evening that he will not be running for the Senate in 2010 -- leaving the Republican field wide open. Enter businessman Fred Tausch, who, as we wrote last week, is a near-lock to run. The latest evidence of Tausch's interest is an op-ed he wrote for the Manchester Union Leader in which he seeks to cast himself as an independent outsider seeking to bring sanity to the spending in Washington. In the piece, Tausch lashes out at the Bush administration ("when Republican leaders lost their way, they lost me") and the Obama administration ("I'm more than disappointed") before pitching himself as a populist warrior ("our goal is to make government heed the common sense of the American people"). Sununu's exit, while expected, makes Tausch's entrance into the race all the more likely. National Republicans remain interested in state Attorney General Kelly Ayotte who may consider a bid.

Say What?: "I don't want to answer any more questions -- please." -- South Carolina Lt. Gov. Andre Bauer (R) to a reporter who tracked him down at a Whole Foods in Mount Pleasant.

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Sorry Jake, a busy weekend. To answer your simple question, no, none of them by themselves would amount to evil, but together, along with other things she has said and done, in my mind, tend toward absolutism which I find to be inherently evil.

---"I'm the mayor, I can do whatever I want until the courts tell me I can't.'" --

I call this the spoiled brat aspect of her personality. Like a child she simply states she can do what she wants because she has power. She forgets she is a public servent and must answer to the people. Not evil on its own but a requirement for anyone who is evil.

---"I don't know if you're going to use the word 'terrorist' there." ---Sarah Palin, asked if people who bomb abortion clinics are terrorists.

This shows moral reletivism. Another requirement for evil.

---"I may not answer the questions that either the moderator or you want to hear, but I'm going to talk straight to the American people and let them know my track record also." ---

An in-your-face statement that she does not intend to play by the rules but will make up her own rules. A passive-aggressive bullying after agreeing to the forum of the debate. This shows she will not keep her word and will find a way around any situation she finds uncomfortable or changes her mind on. Not evil in itself but used by those who are evil to avoid questions and hide intent.

So, in all, I find the woman evil, not on any one statement but on a majority of them. The $150K spending spree, the excuses about her inability to answer simple questions, hiding her daughter's pregnancy which led to wild speculation she then blamed on an inquisitive media, pulling her pregnant daughter out of school to protect the secret resulting in the daughter not graduating high school, and now saying how quitting the job the people elected her to do is actually something good for Alaska but in the same speech saying it is to fight for a cause that has nothing to do with Alaska.

I think its obvious what side of the good/evil line she stands on. If you can balance this with the good she has done, please do.

Posted by: bevjims1 | July 6, 2009 10:09 AM | Report abuse

bevjims1:

I hope you enjoyed the 4th and Gov. Palin making every news show. Too bad you refused to answer my simple question, or we could have kept discussing her.

Posted by: JakeD | July 6, 2009 9:21 AM | Report abuse

Ronald Reagan was not perfect, either, but he was the greatest President of the 20th Century.

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Whatever helps you sleep nights.

Greatness? "The buck stops here."

Reagan? "Beirut bombing was CARTER'S fault!"

Greatness wasn't aboard the good ship Ronnie.

Enjoy your myths. I like Tolkein better.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 3, 2009 5:55 PM | Report abuse

The problem with American politics and journalism, were it to be explained to a space alien arriving on earth could be summed up nicely by presenting this article. 750 words about Palin birthed thousands of words of mindless logorrhea, and some sort of vindictive jingoistic musical extravaganza. If opinions were traded on the DOW what trouble our nation would be in because the supply infinitely outstrips demand. That's my opinion...

Posted by: alligatorhunt | July 3, 2009 4:54 PM | Report abuse

CNN is reporting that Palin is QUITTING as Governor at the end of the month. No reason given.

Oh, and Jake, FDR was the best president of the 20th century. Sorry about Reagan who didn't even know what his people were doing nor did he care. I remember a Flynt movie, I think it was "In like Flynt" or Our man Flynt". Anyway, in the movie the president is replaced by the bad guys with an actor. Flynt finds this very amusing.

Anyway, gotta go to a barbaque. Can't wait to hear why she is quitting. Yesterday she was given the Sitting Duck Award. That might have done it but it would show her to be lame, so I'm not sure. Happy 4th guys....

Posted by: bevjims1 | July 3, 2009 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Ronald Reagan was not perfect, either, but he was the greatest President of the 20th Century. For the record, neither were Abraham Lincoln nor George Washington perfect.

Posted by: JakeD | July 3, 2009 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Reagan was a man of considerable political skill who could have been a force for American greatness. Instead he dragged us through one disgraceful episode after another. I guess you count among his "accomplishments" the running of runs to teen terrorist gangs in Nicragua, and selling arms to Iran. Some president. But you nurture your myths if it helps you sleep nights.

Reagan was able to put his finger on the national pulse and appeal to a broad coalition of Americans .. we still refer to "Reagan Democrats."

Where are the "Palin Democrats?" She's even despised by a lot of Republicans. There are no "Palin Democrats" to speak of, never will be.

(Cue the JakeD autism troll, a single Democrat somewhere who likes Palin .. duh ...)

Palin is divisive and stupid, and you guys aren't going to get back to power in any way that she could manage. You need more than a few million 85-IQ losers to win an election.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 3, 2009 2:58 PM | Report abuse

if Gov. Palin could accomplish just half of what Reagan did, she would probably be the greatest President of the 21st Century.

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And if pigs had wings we'd call them birds

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 3, 2009 2:39 PM | Report abuse

People claimed that Ronald Reagan was "dumb and irrational" and therefore fearful of him in a position of power too -- he didn't blow the world up at least -- if Gov. Palin could accomplish just half of what Reagan did, she would probably be the greatest President of the 21st Century.

Posted by: JakeD | July 3, 2009 2:25 PM | Report abuse

A more likely scenario is they have not yet returned to read or they did and realized they were outmatched.

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Outmatched? By you?

Get some medical attention, your brain isn't getting enough oxygen.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 3, 2009 1:54 PM | Report abuse

@broadwayjoe: I prefer the racism to be right out in the open so we can identify the racists and shun them. There's no way their appeals are going to extend past the 19-percenters (or whatever it's down to by now); Americans find racism distasteful, excepting only the right-wingers, who are for all intents and purposes 100% Republican (or in some fringe infra-party like the AIP).

Let the new round of idiot parties get lots of publicity, lots of pictures showing the aging losers with their hammer-and-sickle signs and the unvarnished racist jargon. That'll only mean that next week we call them the "fifteen percenters."

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 3, 2009 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Don't worry, broadwayjoe, because three and one-half years is plenty of time in politics for anything to happen.

Posted by: JakeD

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Well after another three and a half years Palin is still going to be an idiot. It's not very likely either that she's going to transform into a decent and compassionate human being. She's shallow, stupid, and ambitious. So what's going to change?

You really have no idea, do you, how bad it would be for America to have someone as dumb and irrational as Palin in a position of power. To a fool like you the only thing that matters is that the liberals wouldn't like it. Some citizen you are.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 3, 2009 1:46 PM | Report abuse

The following totally vindicates entertainer/freedom activist Janeane Garofalo, who was trashed for stating the obvious: the Fox-sponsored tea bagger parties were motivated by a white supremacist agenda--

From Daily Kos (BarbinMD):

"White supremacists and neo-Nazi hate groups plan to take advantage of the anti-tax “Tea Parties” set to occur in more than 1,000 cities and localities over the July 4 holiday weekend to disseminate racist fliers and other materials and attempt to recruit others to their cause, according to the Anti-Defamation League (ADL)."

Storm clouds on the horizon.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | July 3, 2009 10:48 AM | Report abuse

Don't worry, broadwayjoe, because three and one-half years is plenty of time in politics for anything to happen.

Posted by: JakeD | July 3, 2009 10:45 AM | Report abuse

"Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin is experiencing something of a rebound among the D.C. chattering class in the 48 hours since the release of a very tough profile on her in Vanity Fair magazine."
_________

Mikey Steele, Salter, and a handful of other GOP insiders reciting tired boilerplate praise of Palin is hardly a "rebound." She is still regarded as a joke (has she yet identified a single newspaper she has read?--or subjected herself to a live interview by a legitimate mainstream journalist?) and a national danger (as Charley James's reporting warned).

See Charley James's fully sourced, ground breaking profile of Palin:

http://www.laprogressive.com/2008/09/05/alaskans-speak-in-a-frightened-whisper-palin-is-%E2%80%9Cracist-sexist-vindictive-and-mean%E2%80%9D/


Posted by: broadwayjoe | July 3, 2009 10:37 AM | Report abuse

brt929:

So, you are "frightened" of those who support Gov. Palin, just not of her personally? That means you are more "frightened" of Todd or Bristol. Seriously, though, if she had been elected Vice President, then you would have been frightened, right?

Posted by: JakeD | July 3, 2009 9:37 AM | Report abuse

Of course, it is possible that "bevjims1" suddenly feels it is beneath him and/or her to post again. A more likely scenario is they have not yet returned to read or they did and realized they were outmatched. We may never know for sure.

Posted by: JakeD | July 3, 2009 9:28 AM | Report abuse

Let's not forget what earned Governor Palin the full fury of the Democratic Campaign operatives to this day -- fear. When she stepped onto that Convention stage and made her "I have a real job" speech, the Democratic handlers froze like deer in the headlights. An articulate, all-American leader with executive experience and youth who could out "change" the Democratic candidate.

Every resource available -- from community activists to network news anchors and comedy shows went into full attack mode. It worked. And the McCain campaign leaders found themselves in charge of the least interviewed of the two candidates did the insiders version of attack mode -- they set up Palin. They purposely arranged tough interviews with campaign trail-hardened anchors -- and forgot to mention the trick questions that every candidate had learned after two years of making mistakes in front of three people in the heartland.

And now those cowardly turncoats are showing their colors with the morals of Joe Jackson promoting his record label during an interview after his son's death.

Posted by: tommariner | July 2, 2009 7:16
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You are kidding,right? "What do you read?" is a tough question? McCain wanted to win, why would he sabotage her?

I'm sorry, it is clear you lack critical thinking skills, which is probably why you support Palin. She also lacks these skills, which is why the citizens of a state that can practically run itself would like to impeach her.

Yes she is very good at reading someone else's words off a TelePrompTer, it's when she must structure her own sentences, and articulate her own views that she finds herself in trouble.

You see most people that pay attention see her as a big joke. What frightens us, truthfully, that there are people such as you, that could embrace this disastrous moron as a national political candidate. Thank goodness the adults in the GOP know better.

Posted by: brt929 | July 3, 2009 9:16 AM | Report abuse

Between Al Franken and Palin this should be a very funny year for politics. Franken on purpose, Palin because she opens her mouth.

Posted by: PatrickNYC1 | July 2, 2009 6:13 AM
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I think you are going to be very disappointed, I got the impression that Franken takes his Senate seat very seriously.

Sadly, I don't think he realizes what kind of bottom feeders dominate our politics today. I hope it doesn't kill his sense of humor.

Posted by: brt929 | July 3, 2009 8:26 AM | Report abuse

Everything about Sarah Palin is toxic. Her politics, her nasty mouth, her divisiveness, her narrow-mindedness, he shallowness.

But like a cancer drug, her toxicity works most effectively on the worst among us; having her in the news every day is like having a sinus infection, a drag on everything about being alive. But her toxicity is working most effectively on those who deserve it most, the nasty remnant of the Republican Party.

A cancer patient can be made to look decades older than chronology but if the treatment works he can recover his youth and vigor. If the Palin poison continues to function, the Republican Party will shrink like the tumor it is, and America will regain its idealism and spirit.

It just might be worth it.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 3, 2009 12:46 AM | Report abuse

Gee Jake looks like bevjims1 considers answering you to be beneath his dignity.

Matter of fact the same seems to be true for just about everyone here.

Have you ever taken time to wonder why that is?

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 3, 2009 12:16 AM | Report abuse

Something about your childishly compulsive use of the sneer-quote suggests to me that you get a lot of bad headaches, Jake.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 3, 2009 12:02 AM | Report abuse

larryandrews:

At least it's not a "public figure" like Obama or Jackson (dead, to boot) that you love.

Posted by: JakeD | July 2, 2009 9:15 PM | Report abuse

In addition, the case you cited, Gonzales v. Carhart, 550 U.S. 124 (2007) did, indeed, hold that the statute complied with the Constitution.

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That's what he WROTE, doofus

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 2, 2009 8:33 PM | Report abuse

bevjims1:

If you believe that my question to you ("Are you suggesting that any of those three examples are of 'evil'?") is "stupid" please say so.

Posted by: JakeD | July 2, 2009 8:28 PM | Report abuse

I love you Gov Palin

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In love with a public figure?

How tragic

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 2, 2009 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Now, if you have no further questions for me, would you care to answer my question to you (posted 3:58 PM): "Are you suggesting that any of those three examples are of 'evil'?". You hesitated in equating Gov. Palin with Hitler (a start, I guess), but you never answered MY question.

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You ask stupid questions in your endless mewling for attention, which is why nobody bothers to answer.

Try actually posing a real debate instead of just expressing your desperation to be taken seriously once in a while.

Poor pathetic loser, nobody will talk to poor little Jake.

Next canard?

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 2, 2009 8:25 PM | Report abuse

bevjims1:

Yes, really -- according to the last statement I saw from the Tiller family, his clinic was remaining shut down -- I have no doubt that other "doctors" will try their best to skirt the law. For instance, Dr. Carhart is a registered Democrat, contributing to many Democratic campaigns including Obama, who "murders" for his cause. I could name many more if youd like.

In addition, the case you cited, Gonzales v. Carhart, 550 U.S. 124 (2007) did, indeed, hold that the statute complied with the Constitution. Perhaps you should read Wikipedia as slowly and closely as you think I need to read the U.S. Constitution.

Now, if you have no further questions for me, would you care to answer my question to you (posted 3:58 PM): "Are you suggesting that any of those three examples are of 'evil'?". You hesitated in equating Gov. Palin with Hitler (a start, I guess), but you never answered MY question.

Posted by: JakeD | July 2, 2009 8:20 PM | Report abuse

I love you Gov Palin... You are a breath of fresh air in a land of public school educated ignoramuses. Blatherskites who make opinion and decisions based on the brainwashing of their youth. Thank-you Washington Post for making them known.

Posted by: larryandrews | July 2, 2009 8:19 PM | Report abuse

Riddle me this, Jake .. how many members of the sovereign citizen movement call themselves Democrats?

Roeder was a right wing freak, just like you, just like most of the remaining Republicans.

One of yours.

Liberals aren't the ones who reach for the guns when they get mad about a political issue.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 2, 2009 8:10 PM | Report abuse

On May 31, 2009, Dr. Tiller was shot and killed, allegedly, by Scott Roeder. Neither the NYT nor CNN.com have ever reported his political affiliation:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=site%3Awww.nytimes.com+%22Scott+Roeder%22+registered+republican&aq=f&oq=&aqi=

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=site%3Awww.cnn.com+%22Scott+Roeder%22+registered+republican&aq=f&oq=&aqi=

In addition, I have not seen his voter registration card -- and no other news story I've seen verified that he was registered Republican -- assuming he even registered at all given his hatred of ALL government, or ever voted if he was registered, as you can see from the following:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Roeder#Roeder.27s_background

In the six months prior Roeder's arrest, he said he had worked for an airport shuttle service, a party-rental shop, a convenience store and a property management enterprise.

After his arrest, Roeder's ex-wife, Lindsey Roeder, explained to reporters that there was mental illness in his background: "When he was 19 or 20, he was diagnosed at that time with possible schizophrenia." As the lead-in to that interview, CNN correspondent Gary Tuchman reported,

“We also got our hands on some legal papers in which Scott Roeder wanted more visitation time with a little girl he said he fathered five years ago. Well, the mother of this little girl went back to the court and said she did not want Roeder near this child because Roeder was schizophrenic, she said, and was not taking his medication. And she was afraid that Roeder would kidnap this little girl. The 2005 Pennsylvania family court which ruled on Roeder's custody petition regarding a daughter born in 2002 took formal notice that Roeder had been diagnosed with possible schizophrenia and was not on medication."

The Associated Press quoted Roeder's brother, David, who said that Scott had suffered from mental illness from time to time:

“However, none of us ever saw Scott as a person capable of or willing to take another person’s life. Our deepest regrets, prayers and sympathy go out to the Tiller family during this terrible time.”

Scott Roeder had been a member of the anti-government Montana Freemen group and was convicted in 1996 on explosives charges after police officers discovered a fuse cord, a pound of gunpowder and nine-volt batteries in the trunk of his car. The Kansas Court of Appeals overturned this conviction in 1997, ruling that the search of Roeder's car had been illegal.

According to the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), Roeder belonged to an anti-government extremist group called the Sovereign Citizen Movement, which believes that virtually all existing government in the United States is illegitimate.

Posted by: JakeD | July 2, 2009 8:06 PM | Report abuse

JakeD wrote: "Dr. Tiller did not perform partial-birth abortions exclusively -- if he performed any after the ban, he was violating federal law as well as God's law -- he was going to lose his license the following month anyway."

Really? Then why is another doctor about to continue Tiller's medical practice if there is a ban? And I hate to break it to you but "God's law" has no force in American law.

As to the "ban", the following, from Wikipedia, says there is no ban due to the language of the "ban" not including a condition for when the health of the mother was in danger:

---The constitutionality of the law was challenged immediately after the signing. Three different U.S. district courts declared the law unconstitutional.[17][18][19] All three cited the law's omission of an exception for the health of the woman (as opposed to the life of the woman), and all three decisions cited precedent set by Roe v. Wade (1973) and Stenberg v. Carhart (2000). The federal government appealed the district court rulings, which were then affirmed by three courts of appeals.[20][21][22] The Supreme Court agreed to hear the Carhart case on February 21, 2006,[23] and agreed to hear the companion Planned Parenthood case on June 19, 2006.[24] On April 18, 2007 the Supreme Court in a 5-4 decision, Gonzales v. Carhart, held that the statute does not violate the Constitution.---

So though Bush signed the bill it has not passed Constitutional muster.

JakeD wrote: "As for "who murdered him?" I don't recall the man's name or his political affiliation. Obviously, there are "murderers" in BOTH major parties."

Where are the democratic party's liberal murderers who murder for liberal causes?

Posted by: bevjims1 | July 2, 2009 8:06 PM | Report abuse

Yes, the "obvious" reference was to traitors worse than Benedict Arnold himself

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Yet another lie.

Palin's "real Americans" clearly referred only to narrow-minded people like herself, fundamentalist Christians who vote Republican, disbelieve in evolution, and hate all the cor-rect people.

Since you can't even remember the name of a murderer in the news scant weeks ago, it's no surprise that you're clearly "winging it" with the facts most of the time.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 2, 2009 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Dr. Tiller did not perform partial-birth abortions exclusively -- if he performed any after the ban, he was violating federal law as well as God's law -- he was going to lose his license the following month anyway. As for "who murdered him?" I don't recall the man's name or his political affiliation. Obviously, there are "murderers" in BOTH major parties.

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Scott Roeder, Republican, you sieve-brain.

What is "God's Law?" Does this eternal morality differ in any substantive way from contemporary trends in far-right American ideology?

Didn't think so.

Until you can convince your imaginary celestial playmate to break his eternal silence and actually reveal his existence, I wouldn't lean to hard on that idea.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 2, 2009 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Yes, the "obvious" reference was to traitors worse than Benedict Arnold himself -- I have read the Constitution plenty of times, thank you very much -- I also have the name of Dr. Tiller's killer, if you want that still.

Posted by: JakeD | July 2, 2009 7:48 PM | Report abuse

JakeD wrote: "Happy Fourth of July!!!"

Happy Fourth JakeD. I encourage you to take the time over this holiday and read the Constitution, slowly and carefully. Its not that long. And while you are reading it think about Palin and her politics, and ask yourself what those who wrote that Constitution would have said about her talking about "real America" and the obvious reference to an unreal America.

Posted by: bevjims1 | July 2, 2009 7:42 PM | Report abuse

bevjims1:

Dr. Tiller did not perform partial-birth abortions exclusively -- if he performed any after the ban, he was violating federal law as well as God's law -- he was going to lose his license the following month anyway. As for "who murdered him?" I don't recall the man's name or his political affiliation. Obviously, there are "murderers" in BOTH major parties.

Posted by: JakeD | July 2, 2009 7:39 PM | Report abuse

JakeD wrote: "I am old enough to remember Hitler as well, which is why I asked you the question in the first place. The Republicans are not perfect, but they are out of power right now, so you'd do better to be concerned about the power being wielded by the Democratic Party."

Oh I am. I worry why Obama is keeping many Bush era programs going, like no FISA court involvement in spying on Americans.

JakeD wrote: "BTW: President Bush stopped partial-birth abortions."

What did Dr. Tiller do for a living? Who murdered him if Bush stopped what he did and who would the murderer most likely have voted for?

Posted by: bevjims1 | July 2, 2009 7:31 PM | Report abuse

Reagan did a lot of bad things for this country, such as the idiocy of trickle down economics.

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Anyone with a fourth-grader's grasp of arithmetic could have figured out what a shuck and jive that was, if he wanted to. Reagan wanted to believe that cutting taxes could be neutral.

And oh, it was Dick Cheney's cocktail napkin that Laffer traced his curve on. I'm sure Dick-0 helped Reagan overcome any doubts about whether or not it would work:

"who cares"

But trickle-down doesn't hold a candle to financing terrorists in Nicaragua and running guns out of the WH basement.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 2, 2009 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Born in the USA of all the song was more anti-vietnam than anti reagan and second of all being anti-reagan is probably more patriotic than being pro-reagan. Dissent is patriotic Chris. Reagan did a lot of bad things for this country, such as the idiocy of trickle down economics.

Posted by: gabrielgoffman | July 2, 2009 7:08 PM | Report abuse

Happy Fourth of July!!!

Posted by: JakeD | July 2, 2009 7:06 PM | Report abuse

While God is marching on.

Posted by: JakeD

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And to think that you actually BELIEVE in that BS

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 2, 2009 7:05 PM | Report abuse

They're dumb songs, Jake, but since everything you post is dumb it isn't surprising that you'd post a bunch of dumb lyrics anyone could look up himself.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 2, 2009 7:03 PM | Report abuse

O! say can you see by the dawn's early light
What so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming?
Whose broad stripes and bright stars through the perilous fight,
O'er the ramparts we watched were so gallantly streaming?
And the rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there.
O! say does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?

On the shore, dimly seen through the mists of the deep,
Where the foe's haughty host in dread silence reposes,
What is that which the breeze, o'er the towering steep,
As it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses?
Now it catches the gleam of the morning's first beam,
In full glory reflected now shines in the stream:
'Tis the star-spangled banner! Oh long may it wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion,
A home and a country should leave us no more!
Their blood has washed out their foul footsteps' pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight, or the gloom of the grave:
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

O! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved home and the war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: 'In God is our trust.'
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

And still we can see as the years have gone by:
There's a dream in our land, and it's flame is still burning.
And the lantern of hope from the harbor still shines;
Those who seek to be free to it's light are still turning.
Now we look to the skies, and we lift up our eyes,
For we know with the dawn we will see our flag rise!
And this is our Star-Spangled Banner unfurled
As a light to the free, and a hope to the world!

Posted by: JakeD | July 2, 2009 7:01 PM | Report abuse

My country, 'tis of Thee,
Sweet Land of Liberty
Of thee I sing;
Land where my fathers died,
Land of the pilgrims' pride,
From every mountain side
Let Freedom ring.
My native country, thee,
Land of the noble free,
Thy name I love;
I love thy rocks and rills,
Thy woods and templed hills,
My heart with rapture thrills
Like that above.
Let music swell the breeze,
And ring from all the trees
Sweet Freedom's song;
Let mortal tongues awake;
Let all that breathe partake;
Let rocks their silence break,
The sound prolong.
Our fathers' God to Thee,
Author of Liberty,
To thee we sing,
Long may our land be bright
With Freedom's holy light,
Protect us by thy might
Great God, our King.
Our glorious Land to-day,
'Neath Education's sway,
Soars upward still.
Its hills of learning fair,
Whose bounties all may share,
Behold them everywhere
On vale and hill!
Thy safeguard, Liberty,
The school shall ever be,
Our Nation's pride!
No tyrant hand shall smite,
While with encircling might
All here are taught the Right
With Truth allied.
Beneath Heaven's gracious will
The stars of progress still
Our course do sway;
In unity sublime
To broader heights we climb,
Triumphant over Time,
God speeds our way!
Grand birthright of our sires,
Our altars and our fires
Keep we still pure!
Our starry flag unfurled,
The hope of all the world,
In peace and light impearled,
God hold secure!

Posted by: JakeD | July 2, 2009 6:56 PM | Report abuse

While the storm clouds gather far across the sea,
Let us swear allegiance to a land that's free,
Let us all be grateful for a land so fair,
As we raise our voices in a solemn prayer.
God Bless America.
Land that I love
Stand beside her, and guide her
Thru the night with a light from above.
From the mountains, to the prairies ,
To the oceans, white with foam
God bless America
My home sweet home

Posted by: JakeD | July 2, 2009 6:56 PM | Report abuse

O beautiful for spacious skies,
For amber waves of grain,
For purple mountain majesties
Above the fruited plain.
America! America! God shed His grace on thee,
And crown thy good with brotherhood
From sea to shining sea.
O beautiful for pilgrim feet,
Whose stern impassion'd stress
A thoroughfare for freedom beat
Across the wilderness.
America! America! God men thine ev'ry flaw,
Confirm thy soul in self-control,
Thy liberty in law.
O beautiful for heroes prov'd
In liberating strife,
Who more than self their country loved,
And mercy more than life.
America! America! May God thy gold refine
Till all success be nobleness,
And ev'ry grain divine.
O Beautiful for patriot dream
that sees beyond the years.
Thine alabaster cities gleam,
Undimmed by human tears.
America! America! God shed his grace on thee,
And crown thy good with brotherhood,
From sea to shining sea.

Posted by: JakeD | July 2, 2009 6:55 PM | Report abuse

From the Halls of Montezuma
To the shores of Tripoli
We fight our country's battles
On the land as on the sea.
First to fight for right and freedom
And to keep our honor clean;
We are proud to claim the title
Of United States Marines.
Our flag's unfurled to every breeze
From dawn to setting sun;
We have fought in every clime and place
Where we could take a gun.
In the snow of far-off Northern lands
And in sunny tropic scenes;
You will find us always on the job --
The United States Marines.
Here's health to you and to our Corps
Which we are proud to serve;
In many a strife we've fought for life
And never lost our nerve.
If the Army and the Navy
Ever look on Heaven's scenes,
They will find the streets are guarded
By United States Marines.

Posted by: JakeD | July 2, 2009 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord:
He is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored;
He hath loosed the fateful lightning of His terrible swift sword:
His truth is marching on.

(Chorus)
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
His truth is marching on.

In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea,
With a glory in His bosom that transfigures you and me:
As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free,
While God is marching on.

Posted by: JakeD | July 2, 2009 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Music for Independence Day:

"The Stars and Stripes Forever"

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The only piece of patriotic music worth listening to.

Can we PLEASE retire the Battle Hymn of the Republic? The melody is even stupider than the words

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 2, 2009 6:33 PM | Report abuse

A Sarah Palin rebound?
____

Gold Found in Newark?
Miss America bid for S. Epatha Merkerson?
NAACP award for JakeD?
Hannity freedom rally in...the South Bronx?
Brad Pitt and Martina Navratilova?
Kenny Chesney and...any female?
Sitcom for Tyne Daly?
Mike Vick in remake of "Lassie Comes Home?"
Ann Coulter and Kanye West?
Ann Coulter and Denzel Washington?
Washington Post breaks first story of year?
Glenn Beck tweets Whoopi?

Posted by: broadwayjoe | July 2, 2009 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Music for Independence Day:

"The Stars and Stripes Forever"

or, if you are a fan of this newspaper -

"The Washington Post"

At Navy OCS, in 1968, it was all Sousa all the time. It was years later before I could appreciate these great marches again.
By then, I was no longer marching, double time, to class at Newport.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | July 2, 2009 6:21 PM | Report abuse

She needs to knock it off with the faux martyrdom and prove that she's serious about issues and about governing.

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But she isn't serious. She can barely mouth the phrases convincingly, she sounds like a mynah who's caged near a radio playing Limbaugh. Her political speech is a mishmash of references ("pry-vit secter") that don't parse.

She only appeals to people who don't care if she makes sense or not so long as she hates the same people they do.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 2, 2009 6:21 PM | Report abuse

Palin may have some intelligence and some ability to galvanize people....

But right now I'm not sure she galvanizes anyone outside of the GOP base.

She needs to knock it off with the faux martyrdom and prove that she's serious about issues and about governing.

Posted by: holzhaacker | July 2, 2009 6:15 PM | Report abuse

it's her low intelligence and her bumbling inability. She's dumb, she's incurious, she's nasty, and she takes even the most professional disagreement personally.

She's unfit in intelligence, experience, and temperament to hold national office, and she doesn't appear to have done too great a job in municipal or state office either.

Posted by: chrisuxcox

Glass houses moonbat.

And yet despite all that, she outshines you in every category by any objective measure.

I suppose you should not beleive everything you read about her on the Kos and Huff sites. It may just be that they have an ax to grind and exxagerate a touch.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | July 2, 2009 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Hey Jake do you have some sort of crush on Palin?

Hate to be the bearer but I don't think you have much of a shot.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 2, 2009 5:38 PM | Report abuse

meglizbethl:

Save your breath.

Posted by: JakeD | July 2, 2009 5:34 PM | Report abuse

If you don't agree with her political stance, fine. Be an adult and don't stoop to personal attacks.

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It's neither a personal attack nor disagreement with Palin's abhorrent politics that are the basis for the majority of criticism leveled against her.

Rather, it's her low intelligence and her bumbling inability. She's dumb, she's incurious, she's nasty, and she takes even the most professional disagreement personally.

She's unfit in intelligence, experience, and temperament to hold national office, and she doesn't appear to have done too great a job in municipal or state office either.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 2, 2009 5:33 PM | Report abuse

I am old enough to remember Hitler as well

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hahahahahah

A guy in his 70s who writes like a teenager?

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 2, 2009 5:24 PM | Report abuse

bevjims1:

I am old enough to remember Hitler as well, which is why I asked you the question in the first place. The Republicans are not perfect, but they are out of power right now, so you'd do better to be concerned about the power being wielded by the Democratic Party.

BTW: President Bush stopped partial-birth abortions.

Posted by: JakeD | July 2, 2009 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Be an adult and don't stoop to personal attacks.

Posted by: meglizbethl


What would Libs say then?

Posted by: king_of_zouk | July 2, 2009 5:20 PM | Report abuse

To compare Sarah Palin to Clinton is ridiculous. Sarah Palin did not break any laws, did not sleep with interns, and did not lie. The only "scandal" she had was that her teenage daughter got pregnant, and she has handled that extremely well, as have millions of mothers across the U.S. All the personal attacks on her are ridiculous - her hair, her clothes, her accent. Shame on the media who speak their opinions on her personal appearance, and those who read it and agree and encourage the media to write more. If you don't agree with her political stance, fine. Be an adult and don't stoop to personal attacks.

Posted by: meglizbethl | July 2, 2009 5:12 PM | Report abuse

his popularity was based on hatred of a conjured up enemy

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Lets see now, which American political party uses hatred

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

If the Bush administration was replaced overnight by Satan, what would it have done differently?

Not much.

Posted by: chrisuxcox | July 2, 2009 4:05 PM


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

you may be on to something here.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | July 2, 2009 5:11 PM | Report abuse

What bevjims1 said.

Posted by: nodebris | July 2, 2009 5:06 PM | Report abuse

JakeD wrote: "Are you suggesting that any of those three examples are of "evil"? You must not be very old. Hitler was evil."

Hitler was popular and his popularity was based on hatred of a conjured up enemy and an us-vs-them mentality which supposed that the majority arian germans were under some sort of attack from the minority non-arians, not to mention the fantasy of the superiority of arians.

Lets see now, which American political party uses hatred and a sense of moral superiority while maintaining that their majority christian religion is under attack by a demonized "liberal" minority? Which party defines fellow Americans as "libs" and "godless" while defining themselves as the "moral mojority"? Which talks in terms of their fellow countrymen being "traitors"? Which looks beyond the vast mistakes of *their* leader yet nit picks a leader who is not their own? Which gives no fault to Bush who did nothing during 6 years of complete republican control of Congress to stop abortion yet call Obama an abortion enabler? Which type of person has taken guns and killed people based on this conjured hatred?

I don't want to compare any American to Hitler, but there are tendencies in all people toward blind hatred based on narrow reasoning. I see these tendencies in a large part of the republican party that follow Palin. And it scares the bejebes out of me because I am old enough to remember Hitler, and not just what he did but that he did it with the full support of the majority of the german people.

It can happen here and we best not forget it. The republicans need to stop this Rovian politics of division and hate or it will happen here. I think most moderate republicans understand this and have learned the lesson over the last 8 years, but the more radical have not and we should be worried as politicians like Palin use the same tactics to derive support based on hate, division, a sense of superiority and a need to stop the minority non-believers from ruining "real America".

Posted by: bevjims1 | July 2, 2009 4:47 PM | Report abuse

I've worked at MS for about half the last 20 years. If you want to understand why their work has gotten so shoddy you need look no further than the change in their culture; from one wide open to ideas and innovation to a Kremlinesque place where conformity and consistancy (sic) are the highest virtues, where developers police each other's orthodoxy like kids at a southern bible camp.

Next time you use Vista, you can remind yourself that someone like Brian Valentine tried this out and pronounced it ready to ship.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 2, 2009 4:34 PM | Report abuse

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What a desperate sad individual you are. won't anyone talk to you?

Posted by: king_of_zouk | July 2, 2009 4:32 PM | Report abuse

"Bing vs. Google:"

What do the ads mean by "decision engine"? I tried to use it once and it didn't seem any different from Google.

I don't see myself changing from Google. I'm very happy with it. I even use it to look up biomedical literature rather than pub-med (the NIH compilation) I'm not the only one to do so.

Posted by: DDAWD | July 2, 2009 4:27 PM | Report abuse

So did Letterman get fired for making fun of Bristol's easily-avoided pregnancy?

Didn't think he would. Another tempest in a teapot. And true to form Palin is still grasping for attention.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 2, 2009 4:13 PM | Report abuse

A brain, for example

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 2, 2009 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Well if "enough is enough" today, why wasn't it a couple of months ago. Palin may have the instincts of a natural populists, but she's missing everything else a politician needs to be elected to national office.

Posted by: Roofelstoon | July 2, 2009 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Hitler was evil.

Posted by: JakeD

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Hitler was one of yours.

But you really don't need to go back so many decades, you really only need to go back to 2000-2008 if you want to see real evil in power in the USA.

If the Bush administration was replaced overnight by Satan, what would it have done differently?

Not much.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 2, 2009 4:05 PM | Report abuse

bevjims1:

Are you suggesting that any of those three examples are of "evil"? You must not be very old. Hitler was evil.

Posted by: JakeD | July 2, 2009 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Bing vs. Google:

I used Microsoft tools in my work, Visual Studio most of all.

Back when it was Visual C++, around version 6 the online help was actually useful; highlight an API call and hit F1 and you went straight to the help entry for that API.

Do the same now and you're as likely to end up reading some six year old SQL Server SDK entry as ending up reading what you were looking for.

And as long as they've been in business, Microsoft has been unable to put aside the advertising for ONE BLOODY SECOND, so I'm not too damned likely to use Bing.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 2, 2009 3:47 PM | Report abuse

"The very idea that he would be that candid, that frank, that brutally honest about his feelings for the woman in Argentina versus his wife versus the other girlfriends, I just find that incredible. Rational people don't do that."

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heh heh heh

Almost word for word.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 2, 2009 3:41 PM | Report abuse

I see the twin towers of loony tunes leftist hate are in the house.

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Barad-dur and Orthanc?

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 2, 2009 3:40 PM | Report abuse

FYI: The reports of people yelling "Kill Him" at Palin Rallies are urban legends. According to the Secret Service (hardly an ideologically based source), such comments were not heard. Link provided for all of you kos quoting Obamabots:

http://www.timesleader.com/news/breakingnews/Secret_Service_says_Kill_him_allegation_unfounded_.html

Posted by: CarlosHawes

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That article only says nobody yelled it at a single rally in Scranton. Not that it was not yelled at any other rallies.

Details matter.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 2, 2009 3:39 PM | Report abuse

I see the twin towers of loony tunes leftist hate are in the house.

how utterly boring and predictable.


Snore.

CC - as long as drivl and chrissuxcox flood this blog every day with inanities, your site will remain sub par and intellectually vacant. we used to have reasoned discussion and trade.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | July 2, 2009 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Meanwhile, you heard it here first...

"What we saw in that interview was just him being irrational," state Sen. Larry A. Martin (R) said in an interview yesterday. "The very idea that he would be that candid, that frank, that brutally honest about his feelings for the woman in Argentina versus his wife versus the other girlfriends, I just find that incredible. Rational people don't do that."

"He doesn't need to be talking to reporters," Martin added. "He needs to go find him some professional help. That's just the facts."

Posted by: shrink2 | July 2, 2009 3:24 PM | Report abuse

FYI: The reports of people yelling "Kill Him" at Palin Rallies are urban legends. According to the Secret Service (hardly an ideologically based source), such comments were not heard. Link provided for all of you kos quoting Obamabots:

http://www.timesleader.com/news/breakingnews/Secret_Service_says_Kill_him_allegation_unfounded_.html

Posted by: CarlosHawes | July 2, 2009 3:17 PM | Report abuse

"Where would the Base be without their racism, their bigotry, their hate? They'd be someone else."

This is important. I think you are on to something. "Conservatives" really do not know what is right and wrong anymore. They are like locked Windows, a frozen screen. You can hear the drive working and working, trying to resolve the dll collisions, but it can't. Its piled up on its own contradictions.

Posted by: shrink2 | July 2, 2009 3:16 PM | Report abuse

This matters because Palin is a bigot enabler and America no longer accepts bigots.

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During the campaign when people in the audience answered Palin references to Obama with "kill him!" she smiled. She encouraged calls for assassination of the nominee.

It really doesn't get a lot lower than that.

When it was revealed that her "palling around with terrorists" remarks were causing death threats to Obama's family .. Palin said it more often.

It really doesn't get a lot lower than that.

What's left of the GOP is sick in the head.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 2, 2009 3:08 PM | Report abuse

JakeD wrote: "I pray that she is protected from evil as well."

Too late!

---"I'm the mayor, I can do whatever I want until the courts tell me I can't.'" ---Sarah Palin, as quoted by former City Council Member Nick Carney, after he raised objections about the $50,000 she spent renovating the mayor's office without approval of the city council.

---"I don't know if you're going to use the word 'terrorist' there." ---Sarah Palin, asked if people who bomb abortion clinics are terrorists.

---"I may not answer the questions that either the moderator or you want to hear, but I'm going to talk straight to the American people and let them know my track record also." ---Sarah Palin, on not answering the questions in the vice presidential debate.

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Try Google on Bush & chimp

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Yes by all means do. There are a lot of pretty tantalizing pictures showing how the expressions that flitted across Bush's face were often more pongid than human.

But it wasn't racism. Sorry.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 2, 2009 3:03 PM | Report abuse

@shrink2: if ever I refer to the "retarded baby" again I'll be sure to prepend "mentally" and append "developmentally disabled," mmmK?

But the goopers won't condemn one of their own for a racist remark, don't forget how enraged the goopers are at any suggestion of suppressing bigoted expression. Hate crime laws are an attack on faith, the denigration of "ni66er" is an attack on free speech.

Where would the Base be without their racism, their bigotry, their hate? They'd be someone else.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 2, 2009 3:01 PM | Report abuse

shrink2:

Try Google on Bush & chimp

Posted by: JakeD | July 2, 2009 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Last week someone referred to Palin grandstanding her "retarded baby" and we, the "libs" jumped all over him.

Well today one of the wing nuts referred to the President of the United States as a chimpanzee.

If the ReichWing ever figures out how to put its mask back on (good people for America etc.), the first thing it will have to do is confront its demons.

Just two generations ago Lynch Belt "conservatives" made postcards of themselves (with their children to boot) standing next to charred, mutilated corpses of African Americans.

We elected your nemesis President. Wing nuts, why do people who are not like you scare you to murderous rage?

Can you tell us why you do not excoriate your people who call the President a chimp?

This matters because Palin is a bigot enabler and America no longer accepts bigots.

Posted by: shrink2 | July 2, 2009 2:50 PM | Report abuse

I really like it when lefties try to blame this economy on Bush. Stock market prices represent anticipated future values, and when stock continues to plunge, it means our financial community lacks confidence in Obama

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If you believe the "stock market" is an infallible indicator of anything, why should readers take you seriously? The stock market rises and falls on perception, more often false than authentic. That's why we had that dotcom bubble, because investors were idiots who expected to make fortunes without learning anything about what they were investing in.

If you want to believe that the recession started with Obama, you go right ahead. And please make a point of saying so in every post so we whose memories are intact know to ignore you because you're an idiot.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 2, 2009 2:48 PM | Report abuse

in response to Wiggan:

Sarah Palin is a threat to the left, which seeks to claim strong women as their own in the form of feminists. People like Sarah Palin and Jenny Sanford who are conservative and strong threaten the left. Lefties seek to put the first woman on the moon, er Oval office, and will stoop to any low to defame and vulgarize any who would compete with them for this prize.

>>>Let's seperate the political party the Democrats, who always want their people to win (as w/ any political party) and "the left" in general. While I can't speak for everyone here (although apparently you can), it's not about electing a woman or black man just to elect a black man. It''s about being able to get a woman or black man elected when they're perceived as the most qualified. I'd say that most of the anger over Palin was that by running such an unexperienced, dangerously fundamental carnival show of a woman the GOP was being condescending of women, thinking they could run anyone with a vagina and get the votes of everyone else in the country with the same equipment.

"You can just feel the bais when they get catty about clothing budgets for Palin, but somehow overlook Michelle Obama's extravagances."

>>> Some people got cattty b/c Palin paraded herself as a downhome Jane SixPack or whatever, then went shopping for high-end clothing on the campaign's dime. Michelle Obama never made any apologies or concessions for the way she presents herself. And, I'd wager to bet she and her husband earned most, if not all, of the money used for those clothes - as opposed to Palin.]

You can feel the bias when they complain of her lack of experience, yet they laud Obama who lacks even more.

>>> Palin was governer of the state with the smallest population in the country, and one that is so culturally and geographically isolated that it shares little in common with the mainland. Obama is a college-educated law expert (proffessor? not sure offhand) who was also in the US Senate and voted on national interest issues. It's not a lot, but it's a lot more than she has.]

Perhaps if Palin had portable teleprompters at every interview and had 'town halls' where every single possible question was pre-screened, she would fare better. But alas, those crutches are only reserved for the anointed one, Barrak Obama.

>>> If you think Barrack Obama is the only Presidential candidate or actual President that uses a teleprompter all the time, you're even further out into the wilderness than I could have imagined. The fact that you insinuate that Obama somehow had a clampdown on all other teleprompters is simply astounding. The teleprompter thing is one of THEE most rediculous "smears" ever created and makes anyone who uses it look like an idiot.

Posted by: MrJack | July 2, 2009 2:46 PM | Report abuse

"Stock market prices represent anticipated future values, and when stock continues to plunge,"

Swine, the stock market has not "plunged" in the slightest since Obama took office. Any cretin with half a brain could find that out. So that makes you....

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | July 2, 2009 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, well, my definition of a "Christian" is slightly less pretentious. If you go to a church that reads the Christian bible, as far as I'm concerned, you are a Christian.

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Nope. I used to attend a church that used the Bible, I went for the community, I didn't believe a bloody word of it.

I'm also an amateur student of early Christianity, I've read Iranaeus, Origin, Tertullian, and the history of the heresies. Like many atheists, I know more about Christianity than a lot who practice it. And when I say fundamentalism betrays Christianity, I'm not blowing smoke.

Want to learn more?

http://www.amazon.com/Stealing-Jesus-Fundamentalism-Betrays-Christianity/dp/0609802224/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1246560262&sr=8-1

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 2, 2009 2:44 PM | Report abuse

blakely1:
What is a REAL american? Do you get to decide? As far as I'm concerned, its an American citizen. Where am I wrong?

Posted by: billy8 | July 2, 2009 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Wow, guys, it looks like Obama has lost the crazy John Bircher/Liberty Lobby types like username. I guess he didn't address their obsession with the Rockefeller Family and those pesky international bankers (they've learned to stop saying "Jewish" -- at least in public). How will we ever assemble an electoral majority now? I suppose Nazi skinheads and the Temperance movement are slipping away from us next...

Posted by: benjaminanderson | July 2, 2009 2:39 PM | Report abuse

I really like it when lefties try to blame this economy on Bush. Stock market prices represent anticipated future values, and when stock continues to plunge, it means our financial community lacks confidence in Obama, Pelosi, and Reid's approaches. Unempolyment similarly hinges on what the outlook for the future is, as companies will not hire until they think they are leaving a recession, and consumer orders do not pick up until they leave bunker mode and gain confidence in the direction the country is taking.

All signs point to a large lack of confidence in the approaches of Obama, Pelosi, and Reid. When we are talking about future predictions, it is impossible to pin that on previous adminstrations not in power.

So go back and suck on that hope bong some more lefties...I won't join you in your dopey hopey daze because I know the more of our economy that goes into government hands, the worse things will be, and Obama, Pelosi, and Reid think the government should be there to nanny you along after you leave your parents house.

Posted by: Wiggan | July 2, 2009 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Palin's popularity -- let's call it what it is -- is predicated on two things

(1) her beauty queen looks

(2) her nasty-appeal to the base

The looks are fading already, they were already fading last year but all those speeches in the temperate sun are taking their toll. Her neck is already crepey and her face is taking on deeper lines than a trowel of makeup can cover.

The nasty-appeal may energize the base, reduced to an ineffectual number motivated by hate of minorities, gays, and liberals, and by rage at their succession of electoral losses. The nasty-appeal is increasingly repellent to everyone else.

Picture Palin running for the nomination in 2012, her waist spreading, her jowls sagging, and out of her mouth coming one nasty crack after another and one stupid brainless rambling statement after another.

Afraid of her? Are you crazy?

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 2, 2009 2:36 PM | Report abuse


An exorcism is not voodoo. Voodoo is a religion unto itself. Palin is a Christian.

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No, she's not. She's a fundamentalist.

A real Christian is someone on a lifelong journey to know Christ, always learning. Fundamentalism eschews any personal development of a relationship with Christ in favor of a canned outlook, to be accepted without inquiry or reservation. Nothing could be further from Christ.

Jake tossed in the voodoo as a pretext for one of his "autistic" trolls.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 2, 2009 2:29 PM | Report abuse
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Yeah, well, my definition of a "Christian" is slightly less pretentious. If you go to a church that reads the Christian bible, as far as I'm concerned, you are a Christian. No need to split them up into groups. They do a fine job of that themselves.

Posted by: billy8 | July 2, 2009 2:35 PM | Report abuse

An exorcism is not voodoo. Voodoo is a religion unto itself. Palin is a Christian.

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No, she's not. She's a fundamentalist.

A real Christian is someone on a lifelong journey to know Christ, always learning. Fundamentalism eschews any personal development of a relationship with Christ in favor of a canned outlook, to be accepted without inquiry or reservation. Nothing could be further from Christ.

Jake tossed in the voodoo as a pretext for one of his "autistic" trolls.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 2, 2009 2:29 PM | Report abuse

As I told you on the prior thread, Gov. Palin was never involved in "voodoo rituals to exorcise evil spirits from her body." Nice try though.

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She underwent an exorcism. It's recorded.

You're lying again. Do you ever stop lying?

Go inflate your "wife" and have a little no0kie

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 2, 2009 2:05 PM | Report abuse
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An exorcism is not voodoo. Voodoo is a religion unto itself. Palin is a Christian.

Posted by: billy8 | July 2, 2009 2:24 PM | Report abuse

They absolutely can't stand it that she is
a REAL american & she loves her family,is pro-life ,likes to hunt,loves her state & her country, basically is a good Christian person.

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If she loves her country so much then why is she married to a loser who wants to see it broken up?

Sarah Palin is not a Christian, she's a fundamentalist, closer to the Taliban in her religion than to anything Christ taught. Fundamentalist Christianity is no more Christian than National Socialism was Socialist.

What does liking to hunt have to do with being American? You're sick.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 2, 2009 2:23 PM | Report abuse

So Palin's handlers are going to allow Sarah to appear on "Meet the Press"?

That should give "Saturday Night Live" enough material for a few weeks!

Posted by: republican_disaster | July 2, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Me thinks the posters, protest too much.
If the Alaskan Governor is no threat to the Dem. ,why do soooo many of them bother about her.
They absolutely can't stand it that she is
a REAL american & she loves her family,is pro-life ,likes to hunt,loves her state & her country, basically is a good Christian person.
They prefer a Obama,who if he even likes this country, is debateable .He doesn't like successful people ,unless they have contributed to him. He does not like business unless they are under his control,
The Queen of England ,Israel& the people of Honduras,who are trying to get rid of
a communist president,the pledge of allegiance,the national anthem.
He does like his family ,spending,Unions,ACORN,Palestine ,
Leaders of Muslim countries.news media that praise him,"leveling the playing field" & getting control of the country
by pretending to "help" people.
I guess it is all a matter of what you think is important.

Posted by: blakely1 | July 2, 2009 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is but a carnival side show. She serves the interest of the MSM because, love her or hate her, by keeping her in the spotlight, it relieves the MSM of the burden of having to report actual news.

The banter on these threads is interesting though because it clearly contrasts the two "realities" competing for primacy in America. One reality is based in fact, analysis, and reason, the other based on ideological zeolotry, emotion, and hysteria. What is your reality based upon?

Posted by: JoeBewildered | July 2, 2009 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Gov. Palin never said "I can see Russia from my house".

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This is another of Jake's "autistic literalism" troll.

Palin said "I can see Russia from an island in Alaska."

Tina Fey lampooned it as "from my house."

It was Palin's claim that seeing Russia counts as foreign policy credentials that's the real joke. She's an idiot.

So, Jake, are you.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 2, 2009 2:15 PM | Report abuse

RGBN - yes they are that desperate. I do feel sorry for you and other intellligent republicans who have watched their party taken hostage by lunatics. I urge you to come away from the darkness, from the party, lest its current madness infect you. Look at the posts from wingers here. Could they be much more pathetic?

Posted by: drindl | July 2, 2009 2:13 PM | Report abuse

As someone who moved from the Washington area to America, I can tell you that Palin has tapped into conservative resentment against Washington Republicans who seem to have forgotten whom they represent.

Besides her looks and charm, Palin displayed something McCain really didn't--a desire to win. That was evident when McCain pulled out of Michigan without informing her.

Posted by: Skibus | July 2, 2009 1:53 PM | Report abuse
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McCain pulled out of MI because at that point he had a limited amount of money to spend and he understands the nature of the electoral college. MI is a blue state. He's someone who has appeal there, but it wasnt going to happen, he realized that, and wanted to spend money where it would make more of an impact. Its the same reason you don't see Obama ads in Utah.
Moving from DC to America... its that sort of sentiment that gets the GOP in trouble. America is America. There is no real and fake America. It's different place to place, but its all America. Seattle is America, Dallas is America, small town New England is America, the Deep South is America, etc. Anyone who says otherwise is full of it.

Posted by: billy8 | July 2, 2009 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Capitalism and socialism cannot exist together. You choose one or the other.

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Wrong.

Go visit Viet Nam. See it in action.

Or just google "market socialism."

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 2, 2009 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Rightwingnut "logic":

The crappy economy six months after Obama took office is Obama's fault.

The 9/11 attacks nine months after Bush took office are Clinton's fault.

Did I get that right, droolers? I don't want to misrepresent you.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | July 2, 2009 2:09 PM | Report abuse

The liberals just hate it that there is a sexy woman who knows how to handle a gun and is pro-life. But God has given this country a leader that knows the difference between right and wrong. And she will lead us from socialism and back to a righteous path. PALIN/HUCKABEE 2012!!!!

Posted by: CountryFirst

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Thanks, Cletus, always nice to hear from the Base.

Now wash down that bag of corn dogs with some Black Label and go hold that Stop/Slow sign

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 2, 2009 2:07 PM | Report abuse

" even the most obtuse fanatic of the left eventually sees this bias, and a backlash ensues"

BACKLASH? WE CAN'T EVEN STOP LAUGHING.

Posted by: drindl | July 2, 2009 2:07 PM | Report abuse

As I told you on the prior thread, Gov. Palin was never involved in "voodoo rituals to exorcise evil spirits from her body." Nice try though.

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She underwent an exorcism. It's recorded.

You're lying again. Do you ever stop lying?

Go inflate your "wife" and have a little no0kie

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 2, 2009 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Yes, I agree -- we dems are SO scared of Palen --oooh. Shaking in our boots.

God I can't wait for her to run. it'll be a laugh a minute.

At this point they don't have anyone who has a chance nationally.

Posted by: drindl | July 2, 2009 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is a threat to the left, which seeks to claim strong women as their own in the form of feminists. People like Sarah Palin and Jenny Sanford who are conservative and strong threaten the left. Lefties seek to put the first woman on the moon, er Oval office, and will stoop to any low to defame and vulgarize any who would compete with them for this prize.

You can just feel the bais when they get catty about clothing budgets for Palin, but somehow overlook Michelle Obama's extravagances. You can feel the bias when they complain of her lack of experience, yet they laud Obama who lacks even more. Perhaps if Palin had portable teleprompters at every interview and had 'town halls' where every single possible question was pre-screened, she would fare better. But alas, those crutches are only reserved for the annoited one, Barrak Obama.

You are right, that as the left-biased (by about 8:1) mainstream media flogs and beats up relentlessly upon Palin, even the most obtuse fanatic of the left eventually sees this bias, and a backlash ensues. There are limits of tolerance to distortion and abuse, and backlash is the sign that you have indeed crossed that line.

Posted by: Wiggan | July 2, 2009 2:03 PM | Report abuse

koz, you really should at least give credit to whatever web sites you're cutting and pasting your drivel from.

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Just enter a phrase into Google and put it in quotes, you can always find the source. I catch Jake plagiarizing all the time that way. These guys are too stupid to evade detection, one reason they're Republicans.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 2, 2009 2:00 PM | Report abuse

bevjims1:

I pray that she is protected from evil as well.

Posted by: JakeD | July 2, 2009 1:58 PM | Report abuse

And then the GOP can drop the Palin types and become a libertarian, small gov't., low tax party and America will be the better for it.

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Yeah this frying pan is scorching so let's all agree to leap into the fire.

No thanks.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 2, 2009 1:58 PM | Report abuse

monel7191:

Gov. Palin never said "I can see Russia from my house".

Posted by: JakeD | July 2, 2009 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Palin can at least give a speech with no notes.

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If you call making less sense than a canary "giving a speech"

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 2, 2009 1:54 PM | Report abuse

As someone who moved from the Washington area to America, I can tell you that Palin has tapped into conservative resentment against Washington Republicans who seem to have forgotten whom they represent.

Besides her looks and charm, Palin displayed something McCain really didn't--a desire to win. That was evident when McCain pulled out of Michigan without informing her.

Posted by: Skibus | July 2, 2009 1:53 PM | Report abuse

The liberals just hate it that there is a sexy woman who knows how to handle a gun and is pro-life. But God has given this country a leader that knows the difference between right and wrong. And she will lead us from socialism and back to a righteous path. PALIN/HUCKABEE 2012!!!!

Posted by: CountryFirst | July 2, 2009 1:14 PM | Report abuse
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This post is just as anti-American as anything that comes out of the mouth of some Code Pink nut.
If you disagree, read the first amendment.

Posted by: billy8 | July 2, 2009 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Wow, what does it mean when long-time supporters speaking up for you counts as a "rebound?"

Oh, and on behalf of all us "libs," let me admit that yes, we are terrified of Sarah and hope ever so much that Republicans don't ever, ever run her for President. Please, what ever you do Republicans, please don't throw us in that briar patch. That would be just the worse thing imaginable.

Posted by: nodebris | July 2, 2009 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Two or three times a week we get a Fix column about some nonentity GOPper who's going to fly in and rescue the party from oblivion.

The fact that Sarah Palin is considered a great white hope just underscores how very far the GOP has fallen, and SO fast.

So she gets some attention as a result of an article that refreshes the news about how dumb and whacked out she is .. that's negative attention, folks, and the only people who like negative attention are trolls, be they blog-trolls like JakeD or national ones like Palin and Limbaugh.

Palin has no appeal outside the 19-percenters. And if you goopers are placing your bets on Romney ...!!

I remember McGovern's run. Romney's would make that one look like a smashing success.

Palin wouldn't get 50 EVs.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 2, 2009 1:47 PM | Report abuse

"garrafa10:

Yes, that was Reagan's fault (he was, unfortunately, busy frying larger fish and putting an end to the Cold War at the time; Clinton's only excuse is Monica Lewinsky)."


I suppose he was also too busy to be sending arms to Iran as well? Or was it his Alzheimer's?

Posted by: garrafa10 | July 2, 2009 1:47 PM | Report abuse

What's scarier than Barack Obama becoming President of the United States?

The Republican Party and it's Leaders promiscuous behavior and also they're response to the difficulties the United States is facing.

But, more importantly, the lack of professionalism being demostrated by the(R) Party.

What happen to professionalism and the (R) Party?

Where should I start?

John Ensign, Rick Perry, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Ann Coulter, Sarah Palin, Mark Sanford, Michelle Bachmann, Michael Steele, Glenn Beck, Charles Krauthhammer, Rudy Giuliani, Dick Cheney, Newt Gingrich?

Yikes... I'm Scared! ;=O help us... Lord we need brains and common sense!

Posted by: opp88 | July 2, 2009 1:46 PM | Report abuse

She is no better than the latest string of GOP men. She preaches abstinance - of course she was not - pregnant at the time of her wedding.

She was a great role model for her daughter when it came to abstinance.

She needs to grow a skin if she even thinks of running. It is sad that when she is attacked for any reason, she runs and cries like a girl. And as a girl I resent it.
If she continues to play the "I am hurt by every negative comment game" Or you say these things only because I am a woman, then honey - you deserve to lose.

Honey - if you cannot even answer basic simple questions like what you read - you don't even deserve to be in any office.

Posted by: kare1 | July 2, 2009 1:43 PM | Report abuse

She is no better than the latest string of GOP men. She preaches abstinance - of course she was not - pregnant at the time of her wedding.

She was a great role model for her daughter when it came to abstinance.

She needs to grow a skin if she even thinks of running. It is sad that when she is attacked for any reason, she runs and cries like a girl. And as a girl I resent it.
If she continues to play the "I am hurt by every negative comment game" Or you say these things only because I am a woman, then honey - you deserve to lose.

Honey - if you cannot even answer basic simple questions like what you read - you don't even deserve to be in any office.

Posted by: kare1 | July 2, 2009 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Sarah's 15 minutes has long gone and it's time to put her to rest. We have enough wacko's like Boehner, Cantor, Bachmann and Limbaugh to deal with. Now like it or not Sarah has never and will never be qualified to be President or VP. Yes we allow Bush to steal the Office twice and we see what happen. Sarah reads her news on a Starbucks cup and thinks sex can answer all the questions. Many should be worried if Sarah can hold on to her job as Governor of Alaska let along running for a higher office. The World leaders are still getting a good laugh at Bush, McCain and Sarah. Let's just deal with the educated smart President we have now as he cleans up the 8 year mess Bush/Cheney made. Look by 2016 the US will have recovered by the Economic Crash and Republicans can put Rush Limbaugh in as President and bring about another Recession.

Posted by: qqbDEyZW | July 2, 2009 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Lest we forget, Fred Malek, who assures us of Palin's intelligence and curiosity, is the man who said "Okay, boss" when Richard Nixon told him he wanted a headcount of all the Jews working in the Labor Dept.

Look, I am willing to give Palin a lot of credit for getting as far as she has in public life, but the fact is I saw the Couric interview and, when asked what newspapers or magazines she reads, she could not answer and, even more tellingly, could not effectively bluff her way through by deflecting the question.

The only reason she got on the ticket was because Bill Kristol became smitten with her after a dinner at the Governor's mansion during an Alaska cruise and talked her up to McCain's people as someone who might siphon off disenchanted Hillary Clinton supporters, as if women will just vote for any woman on a national ticket.

If that dinner never happened, no one in the Lower 48 and Hawaii would know the woman's name. And we know what a great political track record Kristol has. He was Dan Quayle's chief of staff.

Posted by: jhpurdy | July 2, 2009 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Those of us who hope the republican party, as long as dominated by right wingers, remains the minority party or better yet follows the example of the Federalist, Whig and Know-Nothing parties, should hope, pray for Palin's nomination in three years. While Obama has proven he is not a progressive on hardly any issues, as a representative of an essentially center-right party he is light years better than Palin or any other GOPer in a party that is far right with strong militaristic, imperialistic neo-con tendences.

Palin and whoever she chose as a vice-presidential candidate would win even fewer electoral votes than McCain.

Posted by: Aprogressiveindependent | July 2, 2009 1:39 PM | Report abuse

For all of you Palin crtics out there, Biden has said far more stupid things in a month than Palin in her lifetime

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That's nonsense.

Biden gaffes but he's never said anything as stupid as seeing Russia far away in the mists counts as foreign policy insight.

Nor anything as nasty as her "community organizer" crack.

Palin is an idiot. Really. Trying to sell her as accomplished makes you look like one too.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 2, 2009 1:38 PM | Report abuse

JakeD wrote: "As I told you on the prior thread, Gov. Palin was never involved in "voodoo rituals to exorcise evil spirits from her body." Nice try though."

Right, it was to protect her from witchcraft. Too bad it didn't work.

Posted by: bevjims1 | July 2, 2009 1:36 PM | Report abuse

"at Palin's request in which she mixed with the likes of former secretary of defense Frank Carlucci"? Frank Carlucci the ex roomie of Don Rumsfeld, oh yea and head of Carlyle Group the boy club for corruption in politics with James Baker, ex pres Bush 1 and Tony Blair and of course the ex-militiary dictator of Thailand etc. Sarah Palin is meeting with the most evil and corrupt DC operators in history...of course she has a future in corruption politics...it's the USA that the future of is in doubt. More Bush like leaders put a fork in us we're done!

Posted by: jpenergy | July 2, 2009 1:36 PM | Report abuse

The liberals just hate it that there is a sexy woman who knows how to handle a gun and is pro-life. But God has given this country a leader that knows the difference between right and wrong. And she will lead us from socialism and back to a righteous path. PALIN/HUCKABEE 2012!!!!

Posted by: CountryFirst | July 2, 2009 1:14 PM | Report abuse
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1) What is going on now is nothing close to socialism. Capitalism and socialism cannot exist together. You choose one or the other. America is a capitalist country.
2) America is also, in terms of government, a secular country. People like Huckabee who want to "amend the Constitution to conform to God's laws" are the antithesis of the people who started this country. Read the first amendment. Read it again. "Congress shall make no law regarding...". Pretty cut and dry. Not much room for debate.

Posted by: billy8 | July 2, 2009 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Why? At best she is mediocre, but, then, I guess I just answered my question.

Posted by: csintala79 | July 2, 2009 1:29 PM | Report abuse

"She's a fine person, with unique and unteachable political skills"

Yeah they could not teach her squat -

Posted by: kare1 | July 2, 2009 1:28 PM | Report abuse

CountryFirst wrote:
The liberals just hate it that there is a sexy woman who knows how to handle a gun and is pro-life. But God has given this country a leader that knows the difference between right and wrong. And she will lead us from socialism and back to a righteous path. PALIN/HUCKABEE 2012!!!!
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I feel like it's said way too much, but it's appropriate here: Jesus was a pretty liberal fellow. Love the sinners, love your neighbor as yourself.
How about even love the tax collector? ha ha.

As for leading us from socialism, if she did she'd be leading us away from an acheivment she's proud of: redistributing wealth from a private corporation (oil companies piping oil from Alaska) to the public. That's way more socialist than any one thing Obama's done.

And your conjecture on why "the liberals" hate Palin is a pretty, well, liberal interpretation of her critics. As long as we're stereotyping, how about if I say "the conservatives just hate a Tennessee boy who favors green initiatives and progressive taxes?" about Gore?

Posted by: MrJack | July 2, 2009 1:26 PM | Report abuse

The more you attack her, the stronger and more powerful she becomes. Remember Hillary.

However, there are more pressing concerns than Sarah Palin. The current president is named Obama. As today's unemployement numbers show, his economic programs are a miserable failure. There will be a lot of Republicans who want to take him on in 2012. Unfortunately, we will have to go through three and a half more years of misery before any relief is in site.

Posted by: kenpasadena | July 2, 2009 1:25 PM | Report abuse

The Republican Idol played the second male role to a chimp in several films. Palin has done nothing that cannot be easily recovered from. She was not ready when McCain plucked her from a state with fewer people than most Congressional districts. But she can easily become ready. It is a myth that there are a select few who can become President. There are a few who become President, but there are millions with the potential to become President: average to above average intelligence and the ability to look more or less normal while reading a teleprompter. The rest is just a matter of study and the ability to ignore everyone criticizing you.

Sure I dread the idea of a Palin Presidency, but to think she is out of the running is just plain silly.

Posted by: caribis | July 2, 2009 1:23 PM | Report abuse

The article states:

"Fred Malek...said that he recently hosted a foreign policy lunch at Palin's request...'She has been vastly underestimated as a result of one or two interviews,...and absolutely on top of issues like energy which are pivotal to her role as Alaska's Governor.'"

Okay, now how does "being on top of...energy issues" work to resolve those "I can see Russia from my house" statements? Foreign policy is so much more than bumper sticker slogans like "Drill baby drill" and "Bomb, bomb Iran".

Posted by: monel7191 | July 2, 2009 1:23 PM | Report abuse

"Mike Steele is now reduced to kissing Palin's butt."

Well at least miscegination is legal, no thanks to conservatives. If they had had their way, Mr. Steele would have been tortured and killed for kissing Palin's butt.

Posted by: shrink2 | July 2, 2009 1:18 PM | Report abuse

I don't think it is a positive that Palin didn't have a passport. I just see it as irrelevant. Travel is helpful to knowledge and education, but it isn't necessary. There are plenty of widely traveled idiots (many of them in politics) just as there are geniuses who have never been more than 500 miles from home.

Posted by: CarlosHawes | July 2, 2009 1:17 PM | Report abuse

username wrote: "The liberals are so desperate to derail this woman they have filed a dozen frivolous lawsuits which have had no standing pertaining to the type of jackets Palin wore at events or who stayed at the governor's mansion in Alaska, where she doesn't even live."

She lives at home in Wassila because she can get travel and per diem reimbursements.

username wrote: "They are such losers. Palin is just great... a well rounded down to earth woman who wasn't poisoned with the kinds of things Obama is poisoned by and who won't sell us to the world totalitarian government under the banking cartels."

Her state gives oil profits to its citizens. What form of capitalism is that?

username wrote: "Obama needs to be arrested and jailed for high crimes and treason."

What should happen to Bush, who broke the FISA law, who lied about whether NSA was spying on Americans, who threatened the job of a government employee when that employee found out the numbers for Medicare Part D had been understated, who laughed about not being able to find WMD in Iraq? You probably want a 50 foot state of Bush to replace Lady Liberty. Man, talk about idol worship and self delusion.

Posted by: bevjims1 | July 2, 2009 1:17 PM | Report abuse

All of this "so and so did this, so and so did that" back and forth stuff is silly. There are moronic politicians on the right and the left. Palin happens to be one of them. There are plenty of smart, level headed conservative Republicans. If the GOP wants to run an intelligent person, great. If they run Palin, they will lose badly.

Posted by: billy8 | July 2, 2009 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin! Wretched Pariah! Dream Candidate of the Democratic party!

You Go Girl!

After you get the nomination, you should get photographed sleeping with Rush Limbaugh.

That would really ice the cake!

Posted by: trenda | July 2, 2009 1:14 PM | Report abuse

As an independent, the biggest problem I had with Palin (and a large part of why I didn't vote for McCain) is that she was the embodiment of the divisive politics employed by the GOP. McCain had plenty of credibility to me as an independent thinker, but as soon as he hit the campaign trail it was like Rove's machinations at work all over again.

Anyone remember her comments about "the REAL America?"

How about the fact that she's so ignorant about political science that she shoots off with "Now is not the time to be experimenting with socialism" when she held her own socialist endeavor in Alaska - taking revenue from the oil companies piping oil from her state and redistributing that wealth to its citizens - and is proud of its success?

Finally, there was a great point made in the Vanity Fair article, although it was buried in the onslaught of anonymous gossip: Alaska is so isolated culturally and geographically that it may as well be a different country - most of her success governing it would not translate easily onto the national playing field because of that because presiding over the rest of the nation (dare I say, the "real America") requires a different mindset and skill set - neither of which she has competently demonstrated.

And while I don't fear her running for President because I think she'd win (or do well if she did), here's what I fear: If she gets the nomination in 2012 and Obama's first term does turn out to be a total disaster (it's precarious but too early to tell right now), we're stuck with more of the same or new and probably worse incompetence. There's no way a third party candidate will have a fighting chance.

Posted by: MrJack | July 2, 2009 1:14 PM | Report abuse

The liberals just hate it that there is a sexy woman who knows how to handle a gun and is pro-life. But God has given this country a leader that knows the difference between right and wrong. And she will lead us from socialism and back to a righteous path. PALIN/HUCKABEE 2012!!!!

Posted by: CountryFirst | July 2, 2009 1:14 PM | Report abuse

calif-joe - "Palin, bush with headlights."
Fair enough, but this is equally true:

Obama, Bush in blackface.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | July 2, 2009 1:11 PM | Report abuse

jaynashvil:

As I told you on the prior thread, Gov. Palin was never involved in "voodoo rituals to exorcise evil spirits from her body." Nice try though.

Posted by: JakeD | July 2, 2009 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Every resource available -- from community activists to network news anchors and comedy shows went into full attack mode.

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Not how I remember it. Nice try at revisionism though.

The greatest ammunition against Palin came out of her own mouth. She provided plenty, and she continues to.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 2, 2009 1:09 PM | Report abuse

@zouk:
The reason why the president read ofs a telepromter is because so he does not look down while talking to people, its better than having little cards to read from.It always annoyed me when our leaders were always looking down and not looking at the people he was talking to. Bush was good at this, always flipping pages and looking down for his little foot notes. I wish they would just speak and not read of prepared notes, one can wish.
As far as an organizer, its strength not a weakness. Simple reason since republicans always tells everyone that goverment is not the solution, the people are. So what better way is to have a leader,like Obama be able to get the community involved to help resolve our issues.When the community unites and works together with goverment, solutions tend to come out. But republicans are so drunk with arrogance on the Rush poison drink that they don't understand that put simply, republicans are the problem and never the solution.

Posted by: Realistic2 | July 2, 2009 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Mike Steele is now reduced to kissing Palin's butt. Anything to deflect attention from his own incompetence, I guess.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | July 2, 2009 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Genius can be recognized by the dunces arrayed against it.

And in Palin's case, idiocy can be recognized by the nincompoops arrayed in support. Just look at what kind of low-class low-intelligence uh people are arrayed in support of Palin!

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 2, 2009 1:07 PM | Report abuse

The whole world recognizes Palin's outrageous behavioral issues. She is Governor in Name Only, she does not represent this Alaskan. The politicians in this state have turned into a bunch of Palin enablers, too, also.

http://www.adn.com/palin/story/850854.html

Posted by: sweetascandy | July 2, 2009 1:06 PM | Report abuse

billy8:

I thought there was a budget SURPLUS during Clinton's term?

Posted by: JakeD | July 2, 2009 1:05 PM | Report abuse

"So the USSR was going under with or without Reagan." I think the same. Reagan just happened to be around when it happened and maybe it would have happened anyway. Sort of like Castro and Cuba. What 50 years of economic and political pressure have failed to do, age and bad health may have accomplished. And the man has still managed to out live and/or out smart 10 different administrations.

Posted by: aries4 | July 2, 2009 1:04 PM | Report abuse

she brings the best qualities and experience to a troubled america ... romney seems a good second, imo.

romeny has a respectable record but much of it is a result of his already privilged starting point and the large help from others. PALIN? she's on record as being able to make a pot of soup from tree barks. and her morals and sense of fairness regardless of party comes along with

Posted by: ChooseBestCandidate | July 2, 2009 1:03 PM | Report abuse

CarlosHawes: another drooling rightwingnut who thinks it's a positive that Palin never had a passport until after she became governor.

You people are funny.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | July 2, 2009 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Majority of Palin's base...From the South, High School education or LESS.

Palin receives a more favorable rating from those with a high school degree or less (48% favorable, 36% unfavorable) than she does from college graduates (41% favorable, 52% unfavorable). Regionally, she is somewhat better regarded in the South (49% favorable) than she is in the Northeast (39% favorable).
http://people-press.org/report/524/republican-favorability

Posted by: sweetascandy | July 2, 2009 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Palin can certainly "galvanize the base"--if you're interested only in religion kooks who approve of her voodoo rituals to exorcise evil spirits from her body. And Bubbas who hang up auto parts calendars with a different bikini-clad babe fondling a car each month. (That's where her looks help her immensely.) But for the rest of us, there's nothing. She's got nothing to offer on the "big picture" and the huge issues confronting our nation. If this is what the GOP is relying on for its future, it's going to be a looooong cold winter for them.

Posted by: jaynashvil | July 2, 2009 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Please god, please make Sarah the GOP candidate for 2012. I have full faith that she can top George McGovern in forming an incompetent campaign. It's hard to top dropping your VP pick because he underwent electric shock therapy. But i have faith in Sarah doing just that.

The gift that keeps on giving indeed.

Posted by: dcp26851 | July 2, 2009 1:01 PM | Report abuse

"So, you admit that your 12:22 PM claim that she "[n]ever had passport or traveled outside U.S." was incorrect?"

Wow, jaked, in your haste to score debating points you seem to be saying that it's a positive for Palin that she didn't get a passport until after she became governor.

Do you not understand how pathetic that makes her look? Never mind how pathetic it makes you look -- no one cares how you look.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | July 2, 2009 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Prior to becoming Gov she never had passport or traveled outside U.S. Did she even go over the border to Canada to see what goes on there? One trade mission to Ireland and a visit to Kuwait are all well and good.

As a New Yorker which happens to be an international city we have City Council members who have been to more places and have more knowledge about the world than Palin both prior to being elected and as elected officials.

Posted by: MerrillFrank | July 2, 2009 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Chris,

Unlike many of the commentators, I feel I've already said most of what I had to say about Gov. Palin.

In the narrow, GOP-perspective (i.e., political viability), I don't doubt that your analysis is spot on. Also, it's a reflex action to circle the wagons when one of one's own (of either party) is 'attacked'--although I've read Purdum's article, and found it quite evenhanded. I'm an admirer of Todd's extremely well-researched reportage; slightly less so the conclusions he occasionally draws.

Yet I've certainly been an extremely active viewer of Gov. Palin since her debut on the national stage last autumn. I'm prepared to acknowledge that, like Reagan and Obama, she has an innate ('God given'?) gift for communicating with a certain percentage of the electorate, and one underestimates her shrewdness at one's peril.

That said, it seems to me she lacks something all successful politicians share: she can't connect with the electorate as a whole. She also seems to be tone-deaf to her deficiencies.

Good politicians always re-invent themselves to mask their weaknesses--or at least the areas of their personae which don't connect with the electorate. Palin doesn't do that. Despite her other gifts she, like an untalented actor, consistently hits the wrong notes, goes for the wrong choices--choices which would make her more sympathetic to a wider swathe of the electorate.

But beyond all that, shrewd and clever does not always equate with intelligent or smart--and I've yet to see even a glimmer of real intelligence in Gov. Palin's public appearances, both before and after the election. However, I live in hope.

Posted by: sverigegrabb | July 2, 2009 12:58 PM | Report abuse

its time to put integrity back into government. THIS IS THE CLOSEST THING TO TURNING THAT CORNER!

even democrats are disgusted with the way criminals seem to hang out in the profession of politics. its far time to put a stop to it and its up to all of us to do it regardless of party affiliation.

Posted by: ChooseBestCandidate | July 2, 2009 12:57 PM | Report abuse

"Eight years of Clinton’s projected weakness invited the attacks of September 11, 2001. On Monday, September 10, 2001, few Americans were concerned that America had spent most the 1990’s projecting weakness."

Well, heck. The Bush White House had eight months to fix this. Even more than the six months Obama has been given to fix the economy.

Posted by: DDAWD | July 2, 2009 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Palin, bush with headlights.

Posted by: calif-joe | July 2, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Be careful JakeD in smacking down MerillFrank. You are asking a liberal Obamabot to actually reevaluate one his his mindless kos supplied talking points in the light of actual facts. Some libs experience extreme disorientation or mindless rage when confronted with facts, although most usually just ignore them and go into denial. I would hate for you to be responsible for severe mental stress on MerillFrank.

MerillFrank: I have never traveled outside the US and I do not possess a passport. But I'll bet that I could best the majority of the Washington Press Corps or the Congress in a geography test. So what is your ponit?

Posted by: CarlosHawes | July 2, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

zouk wrote: "In 2000, terrorist cells bombed the U.S.S. Cole, killing 17 sailors and nearly sinking the ship while it refueled. The White House denounced these attacks but did little else. Our enemies became emboldened and stronger. America became comparatively weaker."

You forgot to add that those who attacked the Cole were identified in January 2000 when Bush took office as Al Qaida. The Bush administration decided NOT to follow Clinton's example of massive retaliation against those identified, as had been done after the embassy bombings, and did nothing. It was Bush who did not retaliate against the known target. Clinton did not respond to an unknown target.

zouk wrote: "By Monday, September 10, 2001, America had spent almost a decade telling its enemies in unmistakable terms – we are not prepared – we lack the will to defend ourselves – if you attack us, it is unlikely we will respond with anything more than a press release."

Richard Clarke, Bush's counter-terrorism advisor has written that he tried continually after Bush took office to have meetings with top Bush officials to develop a response to the Cole bombing and to let the new administration know that Al Qaida was America's number one threat. Clarke could only get a meeting one-week before 9/11, with Rice.

Richard Clarke also wrote about an inpromptu meeting with Bush after 911:

"On September 12th, I left the video conferencing center and there, wandering alone around the situation room, was the president. He looked like he wanted something to do. He grabbed a few of us and closed the door to the conference room. "Look," he told us, "I know you have a lot to do and all, but I want you, as soon as you can, to go back over everything, everything. See if Saddam did this. See if he's linked in any way."
I was once again taken aback, incredulous, and it showed. "But, Mr. President, Al Qaeda did this." Bush:"I know, I know, but - see if Saddam was involved. Just look. I want to know any shred-" Clarke: "Absolutely, we will look-again." I was trying to be more respectful, more responsive. "But you know, we have looked several times for state sponsorship of Al Qaeda and not found any real linkages to Iraq. Iran plays a little, as does Pakistan, and Saudi Arabia, Yemen."
Bush: "Look into Iraq, Saddam," the president said testily and left us.

Posted by: bevjims1 | July 2, 2009 12:53 PM | Report abuse

"After thinking long and hard, I've come to the conclusion that the BEST Republican ticket for 2012 is Sarah Palin for Pres, and Michelle Bachman, Minn. as Vice Pres. How can we go wrong here????"

You can't -- if you work for Saturday Night Live or the porn industry.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | July 2, 2009 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Palin/Gingrich 2012. The biggest landslide since 1984- for the Democrats.

Posted by: tgoglia | July 2, 2009 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Based on her campaign and the numerous articles on her during and since, I think Sarah Palin is a charasmatic politcian who lacks the intellect to make a good president. Simple as that.

Posted by: stuck_in_Lodi | July 2, 2009 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Best 4th of July Song: US Blues by the Grateful Dead

Posted by: tgoglia | July 2, 2009 12:51 PM | Report abuse

"Fine, she's an unteachable person with unique political skills," said Mark Salter,"

I fixed it for you there, Mark. No no, no need to thank me.

Posted by: washpost18 | July 2, 2009 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Michael Steele said, "She has the ability to galvanize the base, and even folks outside the base."

Ok, so here's my question to y'all. Just who is "the base" of the republican party? To me, a political party base is made up of people who you can count on to vote for your candidate even though you may not agree with all of his or her positions. So therefore, I would be considered a member of the democratic party base because 9 times out of ten, I'm more likely to favor the majority of what the democratic party candidate stands for vs. the majority of what the republican candidate stands for, even thought there may be some issues that the republican candidate favors that I agree with or support.

So, back to my question. Just who makes up the "republican base" these days? It's being inferred here that the republican base is the ultra conservative, christian coalition, anti-abortionist (and likely a few more labels) voter. But is that reality?

I know (and respect) a number of loyal republican voters -- take my uncle, for example, who is a loyal republican "base" voter, but is in no way identified with the currently branded "republican base."

So there's the challenge to the Washington Post. Do a story about who really makes up the "base" of the republican party these days.

Perhaps the religious-conservatives are controlling the party delegate positions, but not the party voters. Perhaps that is the reason that the party is engaged in a circular firing squad these days.

Posted by: dlpetersdc | July 2, 2009 12:50 PM | Report abuse

"Qualifications are not simply a question of how long you have been doing something, but how well you have done it. Judge Sotomayor has certainly been on the federal bench long enough, but is being reversed four out of six times a sign of a job well done?"

Hey, Mr. Statistician, is Sotomayor's record of being overturned statistically significantly different from any of the other members of the High Court?

Posted by: DDAWD | July 2, 2009 12:50 PM | Report abuse

"The only attraction Palin has is her breasts."

This is a false statement. She has the tush and legs of a runner and many people find that attractive.

Posted by: shrink2 | July 2, 2009 12:49 PM | Report abuse

What gets me about Palin is the little passive-aggressive digs she gets in at McCain and Obama. In her Runner's interview she mentions McCain's favorite exercise is "wading", bless his heart. It's like she can't fathom that it might not really matter whether he's in that great physical shape, that maybe he has proved himself in that way already, that maybe his political skills and his history are what really counts (or, for that matter, that he might be kidding, chiding her for a too-personal question). And with Obama, she says she would have more endurance than he would in a marathon. She thinks of political life as an extension of something she's good at, her physical skill, without seeming to recognize that Obama's intelligence and his political skill at keeping his coalition together so far, matter at all. She really doesn't get that she might have to improve her skills in any way to compete at the national level. She's comparing herself to McCain in Obama in the areas she's good at, completely blind to anything else.

Posted by: jonawebb | July 2, 2009 12:48 PM | Report abuse

billy8:

Yes, that was Reagan's fault (he was, unfortunately, busy frying larger fish and putting an end to the Cold War at the time; Clinton's only excuse is Monica Lewinsky).

Posted by: JakeD | July 2, 2009 12:35 PM | Report abuse
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More hypocrisy:
Monica Lewinsky was such a horrible thing (consensual sex between two adults) but Mark Sandord, Ensign, David Vitter (prostitution), Newt Gingrich, Bob Barr, etc. is ok.
I don't care if Mark Sanford cheated on his wife, nor do I care if Vitter likes to wear diapers with prostitutes. At least I'm consistent. I don't selectively apply my moral outrage.

Posted by: billy8 | July 2, 2009 12:45 PM | Report abuse

MerrillFrank:

So, you admit that your 12:22 PM claim that she "[n]ever had passport or traveled outside U.S." was incorrect?

Posted by: JakeD | July 2, 2009 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Yes! Palin/Bachmann '12! You go girls!

Posted by: jillcohen | July 2, 2009 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Chris, more lions and the Collesium shows for the ignorant? Both parties are morally and intellectually bankrupt. Palin, for all of her faults and unpleasant nature, could do no worse than Obama.Obama is doing precisely the same things that Bush did that landed us in this mess. From what I am seeing, we would do better with no President at all. Unemployment rose again last month and the much vaunted recovery is nowhere in sight. Buried in the numbers is the unpleasant news that outsourcing and "foreign guest workers", usually H1-B hi-tech workers from India and China, have cost between half and two-thirds of those jobs lost! Outsourcing is actually accelerating. Now, the vast majority of the voting public has been demanding that the government end outsourcing by imposing stiff taxes, duties, fees, and penalties on company that *have* outsourced jobs within the past ten years. They also want an end to the H1-B, the L-1, and every other sort of guest worker visa AND they want those workers here to be rounded up and shipped home at the expense of the companies that sponsored them. When the number of unemployed U.S. engineers and other hi-tech workers is double the number of H1-B visas something is wrong! And, right now, the number is 4X!!!!! Yet, those credit card companies raising their interest rates and fees, those Wall Street firms that received government bailouts, laid off their entire U.S. IT work force an applied for and received "emergency" H1-B visas and replaced those U.S. workers with Indian workers... nearly 100,000 of them. What do we need to do? Hold nationwide protests, strikes, and shut the country down? End corporate and political policies, where our "representatives" , including the Obama people and the Democrats, take corporate money to put corporate interests ahead of the country's, end the depression, END FREE TRADE. Do it right now!

Posted by: mibrooks27 | July 2, 2009 12:44 PM | Report abuse

The GOP is geting cuddlier about Palin! Good! That should cost them yet anoher election.

By all means, keep focusing the spotlight on Palin. She's the gift that keeps on giving.

Posted by: Gatsby1 | July 2, 2009 12:44 PM | Report abuse

The GOP is geting cuddlier about Palin! Good! That should cost them yet anoher election.

By all means, keep focusing the spotlight on Palin. She's the gift that keeps on giving.

Posted by: Gatsby1 | July 2, 2009 12:44 PM | Report abuse

The only attraction Palin has is her breasts. And, the media can't resist sex and cheap stories. If the media ignored her, she could go back to standing guard at the Bering Strait.

Posted by: pbarnett52 | July 2, 2009 12:43 PM | Report abuse

After thinking long and hard, I've come to the conclusion that the BEST Republican ticket for 2012 is Sarah Palin for Pres, and Michelle Bachman, Minn. as Vice Pres. How can we go wrong here????

Posted by: review001 | July 2, 2009 12:41 PM | Report abuse

billy8:

Yes, that was Reagan's fault (he was, unfortunately, busy frying larger fish and putting an end to the Cold War at the time; Clinton's only excuse is Monica Lewinsky).

Posted by: JakeD | July 2, 2009 12:35 PM | Report abuse
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Probably one of the best lies the right tells. I'm not saying that Reagan did not help hasten the end of the Cold War, but his spending on defense gave us the debt we have today, and communism just doesn't work, so the USSR was going under with or without Reagan.

Posted by: billy8 | July 2, 2009 12:41 PM | Report abuse

garrafa10:

Yes, that was Reagan's fault (he was, unfortunately, busy frying larger fish and putting an end to the Cold War at the time; Clinton's only excuse is Monica Lewinsky).

Posted by: JakeD | July 2, 2009 12:41 PM | Report abuse

koz, you really should at least give credit to whatever web sites you're cutting and pasting your drivel from.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | July 2, 2009 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Re:Palin Passport

She never traveled and showed little interest in the world before she became governor. She probably got one to go on the trade mission as gov and to go to the Kuwait border during the campaign. I'm sure the McCain campaign for all of it's faults made sure she got one.

Posted by: MerrillFrank | July 2, 2009 12:39 PM | Report abuse

In response to that "hit piece" article based ONLY on anonymous sources, at least the following people have gone on the record: Mark Salter, Michael Steele, Jason Recher and someone named "Reche".

Posted by: JakeD | July 2, 2009 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Here's a sample of the paranoid pathology that's sweeping the right-wing (culled from earlier posts).


"driving our country straight into the ground."

"We have breached the line of fascism"

"throwing us to the nazi-like control of world government"

"sell us to the world totalitarian government under the banking cartels."

"the country will be demanding obama and the democrats heads!!"

"Obama’s ongoing destruction of the country-"

My advice: Take a deep breath, people. Your love of fear is going to eat you alive. Get a grip. If not for your own good--do it for the Gipper.

Posted by: writinron | July 2, 2009 12:39 PM | Report abuse

More proof that Palin is nothing but a mindless, media-hungry twit.

http://gmy.news.yahoo.com/vid/14262518

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | July 2, 2009 12:38 PM | Report abuse

"king_of_zouk wrote: Eight years of Clinton’s projected weakness invited the attacks of September 11, 2001. On Monday, September 10, 2001, few Americans were concerned that America had spent most the 1990’s projecting weakness."

Why do you exempt Reagen from criticism? Why were we so rigid in our thinking that we armed our enemies in Afghanistan? Do you forget the shameless way the US evacuated and retreated from Lebanon in the wake of attacks on the US Marine base in Beirut? The Great Liar was a sham, and the Islamists took note of our difficulties in seeing our own blood.

Posted by: garrafa10 | July 2, 2009 12:37 PM | Report abuse

You Palin supporters better be donating all the money you have to Sarah's PAC.

Seriously. She wants your money and we want you to give it to her. So Do It.

Have you spent your money on Sarah? No? Why not?

An awful lot of people spent an awful lot of money on Barak [Hussein, no less!!] Obama. So you see: Money Talks.

The SCOTUS ruled that our Founding Fathers never said it, but they would have if asked, or at least they implied, that Free Speech and political $$$ contributions are one, at least up to a point, for individuals at least. Businesses have more rights to contribute/speech than individuals, but that is another story about the intent of the Founding Fathers.

They would have referenced the inalienable rights of Capital in their documents had they been aware of Capitalism at the time, that is for sure.

So...if you don't spend your money on Sarah, then you should stop talking about how great she is. I double dare you. Contribute the maximum the law allows.

Posted by: shrink2 | July 2, 2009 12:37 PM | Report abuse

billy8:

Yes, that was Reagan's fault (he was, unfortunately, busy frying larger fish and putting an end to the Cold War at the time; Clinton's only excuse is Monica Lewinsky).

Posted by: JakeD | July 2, 2009 12:35 PM | Report abuse

There are a whole lot of Ds who would love to see Palin rebound so far as to be the R pres nominee in '12. In fact, that might be the best thing for our polity to have the religious right smacked down hard by the voters, and for the Rs to finally figure out that "galvanizing the base" is no longer in the same neighborhood as "winning an election."

Posted by: novamatt | July 2, 2009 12:30 PM | Report abuse
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And then the GOP can drop the Palin types and become a libertarian, small gov't., low tax party and America will be the better for it.

Posted by: billy8 | July 2, 2009 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Eight years of Clinton’s projected weakness invited the attacks of September 11, 2001. On Monday, September 10, 2001, few Americans were concerned that America had spent most the 1990’s projecting weakness.

For most of the 1990s, the White House could not muster any real or sustained interest projecting strength. After the 1992 bombing of the World Trade Center which killed six and wounded scores when terrorists unsuccessfully attempted to topple the towers with vans loaded with explosives, the White House treated the attack as a run-of-the-mill crime – akin to a liquor store robbery – but not as a national security threat. A man who drove an explosive truck was sent to jail while the terrorist cells that planned the attack continued their plans and struck again almost nine years later with vastly more devastating results.

In 1993, warlords killed 28 American soldiers and wounded 133 others who were keeping the peace and distributing food to a war-ravaged Somalia. On October 4, 1993 mobs dragged the dead bodies of three American soldiers through the streets of Mogadishu. We did nothing.

In 1998, terrorists bombed and leveled two American embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, killing 257 people and wounding over 5,000. In 2000, terrorist cells bombed the U.S.S. Cole, killing 17 sailors and nearly sinking the ship while it refueled. The White House denounced these attacks but did little else. Our enemies became emboldened and stronger. America became comparatively weaker.

By Monday, September 10, 2001, America had spent almost a decade telling its enemies in unmistakable terms – we are not prepared – we lack the will to defend ourselves – if you attack us, it is unlikely we will respond with anything more than a press release.

But by mid-morning on Tuesday, September 11, 2001, all of America for a brief time understood the need to follow George Washington’s advice -- be prepared and show strength. Will we repeat this error? It appears Obama is well on his way to doing precisely that. So one can fairly ask, what future attack is Obama’s policy and weakness inviting?


don;t even get me started on how weak and worthless Carter was. Obambi is following in those meek and spineless footsteps.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | July 2, 2009 12:05 PM | Report abuse
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Sort of like Reagan's respone to the 1983 Lebanon bombing, which, somehow, did not find its way into your post. It's ok. America is not an extreme right wing country. Sooner or later you'll figure that out.

Posted by: billy8 | July 2, 2009 12:33 PM | Report abuse

novamatt:

If she's the GOP nominee for President in 2012, there's always a chance that lightening strikes.

No, I am still here. I said my piece about Gov. Palin on the "Vanity Fair magazine" thread (linked above).

MerrillFrank:

How did she go to Germany without a passport?

Posted by: JakeD | July 2, 2009 12:32 PM | Report abuse

There are a whole lot of Ds who would love to see Palin rebound so far as to be the R pres nominee in '12. In fact, that might be the best thing for our polity to have the religious right smacked down hard by the voters, and for the Rs to finally figure out that "galvanizing the base" is no longer in the same neighborhood as "winning an election."

Posted by: novamatt | July 2, 2009 12:30 PM | Report abuse

MerrillFrank:

How did she go to Ireland without a passport?

Posted by: JakeD | July 2, 2009 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Actually, Couric asked Palin what NEWSPAPERS she reads every day. I would have hesitated too. What's a newspaper? I remember something called a newspaper that I used to read about 15 years ago. Why not just go ahead and ask Palin what her favorite 8-track tape is or when was the last time she sent a telegram.

Posted by: CarlosHawes | July 2, 2009 12:28 PM | Report abuse

MerrillFrank:

How did she visit Alaska National Guard troops on the Kuwait/Iraqi border without a passport?

Posted by: JakeD | July 2, 2009 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Clearly the qualifications for President ara at an all time low. It seems if you are particularly skilled at reading from a teleprompter, You're in. no other skills or experience necessary.

If you got two resumes on your desk and one said Community Organizer and the other said Governor, which would you pick?

Let's assume one of the candidates is not a wise Latina, clearly qualifying her above any other possible candidate.

If Libs ever had to make sense to anyone outside their inbred sphere, hillarity would ensue. But then again the newest member is a clown. He will fit right in with the other tax cheats.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | July 2, 2009 12:27 PM | Report abuse

It's always great news for Republicans!

you should just get that tattooed on your face and spare us the inconvenience of seeing your column on the post's homepage.

Posted by: miket000 | July 2, 2009 12:26 PM | Report abuse

How about a coup d'etat to remove David Rockefeller, age 94 as our president behind the scenes. He is killing our nation with free trade, wild spending, more debt than Zimbabwe. His Bilderberger meeting in May in Greece decided to make the coming depression short rather than long which is designed to gain control of as many companies as possible by depressing their value similar to the 1929 Depression in which all newspapers owned by WASP republicans were bought by liberal Jewish democrats.

Posted by: mascmen7 | July 2, 2009 12:26 PM | Report abuse

MerrillFrank:

So, how did she go on a foreign "trade mission" without a passport?

Posted by: JakeD | July 2, 2009 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Franken-went to Harvard and was a Math Geek. Is a policy wonk and shows intelectual acuman.

Palin-5 Colleges in 6 Years. Broadcasting Degree. Not much other educational attainment. Can't explain to Katie Couric what she reads every day.

Franken-Involved in politics and policy for 30 odd years while having a fairly sucessful career in TV and Hollywood.

Palin-Involved with the successionist treasonist Alaskan Independence Party

Pals around with a terrorist who was murdered in 1993 during “a plastic explosives sale gone bad.” Todd Palin joined the party two years later. Neither Sarah nor Todd were 9 years old at the time.

Franken-Traveled the world. Also did 4 USO tours in Iraq and Afghanastan.

Palin-Never had passport or traveled outside U.S unless you count a trade mission. Apparently can see Russia from outside window.

Franken-Daughter teaches in NYC Public Schools.

Palin-Daughter gets knocked up and supports ineffective abstenance education programs.

Franken-Supports National Health Plan public option in order to lift burden off of small and mid-size businesses.

Palin-Decries "Socialism" while supports Alaska National Fund payouts of roughly $1000 per year while in 2008 adding $1200 energy rebate.

Posted by: MerrillFrank | July 2, 2009 12:22 PM | Report abuse

CarlosHawes:

OUCH! She knows more about the job of Vice President than Joe Biden too ; )

Posted by: JakeD | July 2, 2009 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Sen Ted Cochran said McCain is unfit to be president. His raging screams at people coupled with his low IQ made for a dangerous leader who may have been much worse than Bush II. McCain was 892 out of 897 midshipman at the Naval Academy which he hated because he hated learning anything useful. He was a playboy there and not a student. His support of Cap & Trade shows how dangerous he is even today.

Posted by: mascmen7 | July 2, 2009 12:19 PM | Report abuse

No matter how much she knows about the Bill of Rights, I guarantee that she knows that there are 50, not 57, states in the Union :)

Posted by: CarlosHawes | July 2, 2009 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Those afflicted with histrionic personality disorder and sociopathology together often do well. Ponzi, Hitler, Carly Fiorina, Stalin. Palin's career path is already laid out for her.

Posted by: ian807 | July 2, 2009 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is truly a gift from God...to the Democrats.

Posted by: MarcMyWords | July 2, 2009 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Palin- the gift that keep on giving. The media seems to want her in the limelight because she has a following among the base. When she was selected, she has repetitively demonstrated her lack of intelligent in many areas not to mention her perceived attacks by critics. I once asked a conservative about her qualifications. She stated that she is qualified because she was mayor (IMHO a part time job- says so on the website) and became governor. I responded "is there anything else?" There's a silence then I asked what about Hillary? She did almost the same thing (FLOTUS and Senator) She said that she is not qualified (in reality she does not like the Democrats).
What has she done that truly make her qualified to run. The answer is none because in the past six months she has attacked and lumped anyone with the media whether it is Letterman, bloggers and anyone else (even though Leno and O'Brien did the same thing) and attack them for being insentitive and makes inane commment that does not make sense at all. This is similar to Kerry Healy when she ran for Governor. She simply attacked anyone who slighted her. what happened to her? she was not elected. Simply stated she has not shown me that she is intelligent enough to do it. There's the issue of contradiction between what she said and what she does. Prime example is accepting money for the "Bridge to nowhere.
Her ulterior motive is to keep herself in the limelight for 2012. IMHO she may win the nomination but lose the election.

Posted by: beeker25 | July 2, 2009 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: username

@SteelWheel25: Your whole premise is wrong.

Gov't should keep out of the economy.
Palin's policy is to keep us out of world gov't, the UN, etc. and not tax us to do so.

That's the only policy we need.

It's going to be 'anyone but a democrat' in '12 if this looting of the country keeps up.

Not one job has been created but plenty of Rockefeller types have lined their pockets with my 401K money

STOP OBAMA'S WAR ON THE MIDDLE CLASS

We have breached the line of fascism with this clown in office.
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username,
no my premise is correct and you make my point. Notice how you stated your positon and what you think should be done and what will happen if the right thing isn't done. Gov Palin has yet to do this! She is wasting her time and breathe on things that truly don't matter!! Week for last she was feuding with insignifacant David Letterman this week she is claiming she can out run President Obama in distance running!!!! All this would be taken as a tongue & cheek banter if it weren't for the fact that Palin has yet to state a coherent policy position on anything of importance to Americans!

She is doing and saying all the things that convinces people not take her seriously. Why you are taking her seriously amazes me because your post to me reads like a well informed person wrote it.

Posted by: SteelWheel25 | July 2, 2009 12:09 PM | Report abuse

username:

Yes, Obama was more qualified than Palin- for one thing he knows the parts of the Bill of Rights- which she had no clue about. He understood the term "Bush Doctrine", when she- a member of Bush's party had no clue. In the debates, she changed the subject when she was asked a question that was beyind her. She didn't get that women do not want to elect "Hockey Mom" to be President. But she dressed better than Hillary- but so did Barack.

Posted by: poppysue85 | July 2, 2009 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Eight years of Clinton’s projected weakness invited the attacks of September 11, 2001. On Monday, September 10, 2001, few Americans were concerned that America had spent most the 1990’s projecting weakness.

For most of the 1990s, the White House could not muster any real or sustained interest projecting strength. After the 1992 bombing of the World Trade Center which killed six and wounded scores when terrorists unsuccessfully attempted to topple the towers with vans loaded with explosives, the White House treated the attack as a run-of-the-mill crime – akin to a liquor store robbery – but not as a national security threat. A man who drove an explosive truck was sent to jail while the terrorist cells that planned the attack continued their plans and struck again almost nine years later with vastly more devastating results.

In 1993, warlords killed 28 American soldiers and wounded 133 others who were keeping the peace and distributing food to a war-ravaged Somalia. On October 4, 1993 mobs dragged the dead bodies of three American soldiers through the streets of Mogadishu. We did nothing.

In 1998, terrorists bombed and leveled two American embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, killing 257 people and wounding over 5,000. In 2000, terrorist cells bombed the U.S.S. Cole, killing 17 sailors and nearly sinking the ship while it refueled. The White House denounced these attacks but did little else. Our enemies became emboldened and stronger. America became comparatively weaker.

By Monday, September 10, 2001, America had spent almost a decade telling its enemies in unmistakable terms – we are not prepared – we lack the will to defend ourselves – if you attack us, it is unlikely we will respond with anything more than a press release.

But by mid-morning on Tuesday, September 11, 2001, all of America for a brief time understood the need to follow George Washington’s advice -- be prepared and show strength. Will we repeat this error? It appears Obama is well on his way to doing precisely that. So one can fairly ask, what future attack is Obama’s policy and weakness inviting?


don;t even get me started on how weak and worthless Carter was. Obambi is following in those meek and spineless footsteps.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | July 2, 2009 12:05 PM | Report abuse

"Palin can at least give a speech with no notes."

Of course, the speech will be totally incoherent. But hey, no notes!

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | July 2, 2009 12:05 PM | Report abuse

"She's a fine person, with unique and unteachable political skills," said Mark Salter.
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"She looks fine on TV, but don't let her speak" is the drift of the statement?

Posted by: shhhhh | July 2, 2009 12:03 PM | Report abuse

"We generally are not concerned with convincing ourselves."

Your slavering support for Sarah Palin conclusively proves that you are not among the thinking Americans group.

Unless you count thinking with your dick.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | July 2, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

She's my sister in law Chris. A drink in one hand, and a knife in the other. Smiling while she sticks it in your back. Self righteous, without the underlying deeds. Charming on the face, but a whining diva with unending capacity to hold a grudge. No thanks. Alaska can keep her.

Posted by: Merry1 | July 2, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: username

Never served in the military, never ran a business, has no accomplishments to speak of and can't speak without his bosses words on the teleprompter.

Palin can at least give a speech with no notes. She runs the Guard in her state, and knows business. And she WON'T sell us out to world government under the elitist rich bankers.

Her religious ideas are hers, and won't affect any of us, except that she will have a conscience before throwing us to the nazi-like control of world government in violation of the Constitution.

We can't wait... Palin '12 !!!!!
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For a moment there I thought you were talking about Bush but then I read your mindless praise for Palin. Look, Palin is in dire need of a teleprompter and a set of encyclopedias or the rest of us need a Palinese interpreter.

You say she lead the Alaskan national guard against what?? The Russian invasion that Palin can see happening from her front porch? You say President Obama having no military experience disqualifies him from being POTUS so how is it possible then for Palin to be POTUS? She didn't serve nor her husband!!

You are just as duplicitous as she is!!! No wonder you think she is so great!!!

Go Palin 2012!!!!!! The democrats could use an easy win and a super mojority in both houses!!!

Posted by: SteelWheel25 | July 2, 2009 11:58 AM | Report abuse

You say Sarah Palin is racist, you elected a President that is the racist person this world has ever seen and is dividing this country more than this great country has ever seen.Could you please keep YOUR racist remarks to yourself.

Thanks you

Posted by: jdeldin | July 2, 2009 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Update: Apparently this video was not official. One of Palin's misguided fans (Laura VW) uploaded it and put the SaraPac logo on it.

Posted by: edlharris | July 2, 2009 11:57 AM | Report abuse

username, by all means spend all of your money and use all of your energy to help Palin get the GOP nomination in 2012. Really, do whatever it takes.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | July 2, 2009 11:56 AM | Report abuse

vbhoomes wrote: "Its fair to give the new administration a 6 month grace period but after that, if they keep telling us its not their fault, then its time to get adults in charge who are willing to be responsible and not make excuses like a teenager would."

So you don't buy Bush's assertion that no one could have seen 911 coming? That it was not his fault for ignoring the alarms raised by CIA and others after being in office for 9 months? You think its ok Bush made no retaliation for the bombing of the Cole after AQ was determined to have done it? Bush made teenage excuses about 911, tried to prevent an investigation into lapses by his administration. But no cries of responsibility ever came from republicans. But Obama MUST claim responsibility for the fallout of 8 years of Bush's rule after 6 months of rebuilding.

Look, I don't think republicans are stupid but they seem to think they can blame everything on anyone else but themselves and get away with it. Well, look at the numbers of senators and congressmen and tell me conservatives are getting away with anything. The American people's eyes are now wide open, horrified at where the republicans have led this nation. It will be a cold day in hades before anyone except the single-issue-abortion-fanatics hand them power again in exchange for opposing abortion, which they failed to do anything about after 6 years of complete power. Makes one wonder why anyone thinks the republicans can do anything except enrich themselves through tax breaks for the wealthy, the only positive out of 8 years of Bushinomics.

Posted by: bevjims1 | July 2, 2009 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Can someone, anyone, please tell the Republicans that they need to move past Sarah Palin now and fast? With the Walrus Rush, the debacle in South Carolina, Steele trying to be the Superfly of conservatives, and Palin, they are going to end up shooting every last one of themselves in the foot. Sarah Palin has no business running for president of the US at any time.

Posted by: poppysue85 | July 2, 2009 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Well, SarahPAC briefly put out a 4th of July video that has Obama and King Kong in it:
http://adizzylife.blogspot.com/2009/07/now-shes-gone-and-done-it.html

Posted by: edlharris | July 2, 2009 11:55 AM | Report abuse

right-wingers will ever again convince "thinking" Americans

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>..

We generally are not concerned with convincing ourselves. did you mean Libs? you should have said gullible anti-americans then.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | July 2, 2009 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Go Sarah

We coherent people are behind you 100%

To change the subject just a little,
THERE IS NO ---K--- GLOBAL WARMING.i am very sick of you libs following in every footstep this pres. makes. your love affair is driving our country straight into the ground.

Posted by: jdeldin | July 2, 2009 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Many right-wingers make the claim that Democrats fear Sarah Palin. What they perceive to be fear is actually disdain.

When Palin spoke vociferously about Obama while on the 2008 campaign trail, smugly referring to him as an un-American terrorist-sympathizer, she wasn't telling us anything about Obama's lack of patriotism, but rather her own lack of character.

Palin is the type of person who will do and say anything in order to further her own political ambitions.

Posted by: labman57 | July 2, 2009 11:52 AM | Report abuse

@SteelWheel25: Your whole premise is wrong.

Gov't should keep out of the economy.
Palin's policy is to keep us out of world gov't, the UN, etc. and not tax us to do so.

That's the only policy we need.

It's going to be 'anyone but a democrat' in '12 if this looting of the country keeps up.

Not one job has been created but plenty of Rockefeller types have lined their pockets with my 401K money

STOP OBAMA'S WAR ON THE MIDDLE CLASS

We have breached the line of fascism with this clown in office.

Posted by: username | July 2, 2009 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: king_of_zouk |
North Korea test-fired a third short-range missile on Thursday after earlier reports that it fired two surface-to-ship missiles earlier in the day, a South Korean defense ministry spokesman said. The test-fires are a move that aggravates the already high tensions following Pyongyang's recent nuclear test and U.N. sanctions imposed as punishment.

Let's call it what it is - Lib foreign weakness
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So, king_of_zouk, what would you call the full attack on America's soil? Obviously, your memory has diminsihed substantially since September 11, 2001.

There is no way you right-wingers will ever again convince "thinking" Americans that you guys are stronger and smarter than the Liberals on foreign policy or the economy!

Posted by: SteelWheel25 | July 2, 2009 11:47 AM | Report abuse

@jaxas: Are you saying Obama was ready for national office?

Never served in the military, never ran a business, has no accomplishments to speak of and can't speak without his bosses words on the teleprompter.

Palin can at least give a speech with no notes. She runs the Guard in her state, and knows business. And she WON'T sell us out to world government under the elitist rich bankers.

Her religious ideas are hers, and won't affect any of us, except that she will have a conscience before throwing us to the nazi-like control of world government in violation of the Constitution.

We can't wait... Palin '12 !!!!!

Posted by: username | July 2, 2009 11:46 AM | Report abuse

xupeter86 wrote: "And for all of you libs who blame the republicans for the mess we are in , once again the facts don't support you. The dems destroyed regulations for lending during the Clinton administration..."

OMG, I thought blaming Clinton had finally ended. Just another "can't make a mistake" conservative.

xupeter86 wrote: "...and then would not allow Bush to address it."

Who would not allow Bush to address it? Bush had a republican lock on Congress for 6 year of his 8 years! Was it the republicans who would not allow him to address it?

xupeter86 wrote: "Look it up."

Maybe you can provide a source?

xupeter86 wrote: "also the dems have been in charge since 2006. Bush dealt with the terrorist attack the first 4 years. he is guilty of thinking the economy could grow itself out of trouble. That was his mistake."

I'm not sure what you are linking here. Spending grew like a wildfire under Bush and his republican congress for 6 years. Start with that little matter before you go blaming democrats for the problems Bush and his republican buddies made all by themselves, even threatening the nuclear option should the democrats dare to filibuster, or did you just attribute the errors republicans were making to Clinton? So sad...

Posted by: bevjims1 | July 2, 2009 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Xupeter86, you seem to have a convenient lapse of memory. The economic collapse that has caused this recession and has brought about all of these job losses began in the Bush administration. And it happened primarily because of the overapplication of one of your beloved conservative principles--deregulation of businesses and the banking and stock industries.

Sure, some democrats went along for their own political reasons. But, the fact remains: It was the devoted application of a major conservative principle that wrought this calamity. You can blame Obama all you want but most thinking Americans don't buy that. They will hold him accountable if he doesn't act to correct this conservative screwup.

Of course that is what you conservatives fear isn't it? That he will act and he will succeed. You would much rather see the country go down if you can bring this good and decent man down with it. My God you people are despicable!

Posted by: jaxas | July 2, 2009 11:44 AM | Report abuse

The liberals are so desperate to derail this woman they have filed a dozen frivolous lawsuits which have had no standing pertaining to the type of jackets Palin wore at events or who stayed at the governor's mansion in Alaska, where she doesn't even live.

They are such losers. Palin is just great... a well rounded down to earth woman who wasn't poisoned with the kinds of things Obama is poisoned by and who won't sell us to the world totalitarian government under the banking cartels.

Obama needs to be arrested and jailed for high crimes and treason.

Posted by: username | July 2, 2009 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Looking at some of economic data today, it looks like the economy is on the verge of total collapse. Now all reasonable people would agree, their was a recession on when Obama took office, but we were told Obama and the dems could fix it. We were told if we didn't pass the stimulas bill the unemployment could hit 8%. At what point does Obama become responsible for the economy? and if he can't fix it, why did we elect him? Its fair to give the new administration a 6 month grace period but after that, if they keep telling us its not their fault, then its time to get adults in charge who are willing to be responsible and not make excuses like a teenager would.

Posted by: vbhoomes | July 2, 2009 11:39 AM | Report abuse

For all of you Palin crtics out there, Biden has said far more stupid things in a month than Palin in her lifetime. Why the double standards? Are you sexists?

Posted by: vbhoomes | July 2, 2009 9:23 AM | Report abuse
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Please. Playing games is all fun and good, but Christian right wingers accusing others of intolerance is quickly losing its comedic value. It was funny for a little while, but its getting old now.

Posted by: billy8 | July 2, 2009 11:38 AM | Report abuse

For the Palin supporters. Instead of delcaring she is being unfairly attacked by the left-wing media elites why don't you enlighten us on Palin's policy positions that makes her the better candidate for president.

So far all we have witness and heard from Gov. Palin is how petty, duplicitous and incorrigible she is. Not once has she spoke coherently on what can be done to correct the American economy. It isn't enough to simple dismiss President Obama's efforts as "socialist" and then express no "free market" ideas that will work better.

Gov. Palin embodies the current persona of the Republican party. The problem is America fully rejects this persona and completely distrusts its leaders. So, with that said, Gov. Palin will probably win the GOP Primary and will get trounced in the general election no matter who the Democrats run.

Posted by: SteelWheel25 | July 2, 2009 11:37 AM | Report abuse

North Korea test-fired a third short-range missile on Thursday after earlier reports that it fired two surface-to-ship missiles earlier in the day, a South Korean defense ministry spokesman said. The test-fires are a move that aggravates the already high tensions following Pyongyang's recent nuclear test and U.N. sanctions imposed as punishment.

Let's call it what it is - Lib foreign weakness

Posted by: king_of_zouk | July 2, 2009 10:39 AM | Report abuse
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Let me guess. We should invade N. Korea because we'll be "greeted as liberators", and it will "pay for itself". And, China and Russia will be cool with it.

Posted by: billy8 | July 2, 2009 11:35 AM | Report abuse

The republicans on this board are again confused, not shocking.Speaking to some of utra-libs that cross my path and moderates and even some republicans, not the fringe elements, Palin just does not cut it. More and more republicans, not the hardcore nutjobs, Palin is a concern and its not because she is talented and a viable candiate, its the opposite. Republicans want the White House back and most fear if Palin is the candiate, they will not see the White House again for another 4 years.And many libs want her to be the candiate so the democrats can retain the White House and moderates are not even paying attention because they do not want a campaign to last 3+ years.
This talk about the next election for the White House is nonsense.People its 3+ years away and after going through 2+years of campaign, we all need to give it a rest.
And to those who are talking about the unemployment rate and how high it is, did you expect that Obama would be able to fix eight years of Bush in less than a year? Only republicans play that sorry card to try to make them seem like they have a solution.Most voters are willing to wait and see and in 3+ years if we are not happy, out goes Obama.But most are willing to give the president his time, that means republicans, his full term before yelling FIRE.
Remember this,Democrats will vote for Obama, Republicans will vote for whoever and the ones who will decide the election are the moderates and independents.The real issue for the republicans are the ultra-conservatives who damaged the party brand with their exclusive mind set.

Posted by: Realistic2 | July 2, 2009 11:34 AM | Report abuse

I am not sure I get Cillizza's take on this article. He is the only media personality I have seen, heard or read that sees this as somehow being favorable to Palin. I see it as just more evidence that she is nothing but a screwball.

Look. The media are going to have to get smart about the right. Being popular with Limbaugh's dittoheads is one thing, but in broader national polls she simply does not rise to a level of support where any reasonable person would see her as ready for national office.

Posted by: jaxas | July 2, 2009 11:33 AM | Report abuse

The king of the telaprompter is now telling us the stimulus has worked. After losing another 470,000 jobs in june, I think the facts fly in the face of Obama's claims. As long as he can massage numbers to support his claims he is fine. the problem with this type of libonomics is that eventually the facts surface and can't be denied. And for all of you libs who blame the republicans for the mess we are in , once again the facts don't support you. The dems destroyed regulations for lending during the Clinton administration and then would not allow Bush to address it. Look it up. also the dems have been in charge since 2006. Bush dealt with the terrorist attack the first 4 years. he is guilty of thinking the economy could grow itself out of trouble. That was his mistake. The government has never reigned in spending. Until it does we will continue to face these huge deficits. we can't tax and spend our way back to economic recovery. All the kool aid drinkers are starting to realize that Obama's greatest quality is delivering a canned presentation in a controlled setting. He is magic. Beyond that he is a puppet for the left edge of the party. One and done in 2010 and 2012.

Posted by: xupeter86 | July 2, 2009 11:33 AM | Report abuse

All the Lib opinion about how the Repubs would be stupid to run Palin remind me of the sage advice thay gave to go ahead and run their previous choice - McCain.

For some reason, I think we will operate away from their ideas of what a good candidate is.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | July 2, 2009 11:26 AM | Report abuse
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I'm no "lib", but I think American "cons" are dangerous, so, yes, please run Palin. Let her do interviews. Put her on the campaign trail. It'll set the "cons" back years.

Posted by: billy8 | July 2, 2009 11:29 AM | Report abuse

The difference between Palin and Clinton is that Clinton actually had substance, once you dug beneath all the criticism of him. Same thing with Reagan.

There is nothing there with Palin. And we are not in an era where Americans want someone who doesn't know the basics.

Palin will remain an interesting side story.

Posted by: mypitts2 | July 2, 2009 11:28 AM | Report abuse

All the Lib opinion about how the Repubs would be stupid to run Palin remind me of the sage advice thay gave to go ahead and run their previous choice - McCain.

For some reason, I think we will operate away from their ideas of what a good candidate is.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | July 2, 2009 11:26 AM | Report abuse

1. Sarah Palin is the governor of Alaska & will easily win reelection in 2010.

AS AN ALASKAN...YOU ARE HIGH IF YOU THINK PALIN WILL TAKE THE INCUMBENT NOMINATION LET ALONE ANOTHER TERM AS GOV.

Palin will likely bypass a 2012 Republican Presidential primary.

YA MEAN SHE WILL BE SHUT OUT. TAKES A NOMINATION BY 73% OF GOP TO PLACE A FRONT RUNNER AND SHE DOES NOT HAVE THE VOTES.

2. New Democratic US Senator Mark Begich is up for reelection the same year Palin would finish her 2nd term as Governor of Alaska. Palin could then run that US Senate seat and guarantee her staying power in national politics through Alaska politics.

LMAO!!! NOT A CHANCE IN HELL.

Lisa Murkowski was the other senator Palinlites have said Palin would wipe the floor with...LOL, that was before the last ALASKAN popularity poll http://www.haysresearch.com/oc050509.htm and Murkowski being ELECTED to two top GOP positions in the senate http://community.adn.com/adn/node/142031
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3. The national media loves Sarah Palin! She sells and she's a story!

PALIN IS A TABLOID. The ONLY reason Palin is in the news is because she keeps 911ing People Magazine and Hannity. Take away the unwed teenage mother, the special needs kid she exploits...heck when you deduce 95% of Palin's headlines they are all about her kids and that MIGHT sell a rag mag but Palin will have to fight a Gosseling every week for a cover and Palin is running out of kids.

Posted by: sweetascandy | July 2, 2009 11:24 AM | Report abuse

JohnGalt9 wrote: "The continuing phobic attacks on Sarah Palin are doing no favors to the liberals and is actually promoting and creating a national figure for everything that is anti-far-left and gender discrimination. The Republicans did not have this nationally recognized figure, but now they do, thanks to the liberals. Thank you, crazy leftists, and please, keep it up."

Glad to help. Anything more I can do to keep Palin in the national light so she will be nominated in 2012 please let me know. She is the perfect conservative candidate, from a libural perspective that is.

Posted by: bevjims1 | July 2, 2009 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Read another speech on primetime TV? Hold another scripted press conference? Name another tax dodger as the czar of something? Promise more "tax cuts" or perhaps another trillion dollars of goodies? Apologize to a dictator? Blame Bush for the current mess? Or maybe just capture our hearts by going out on another $2 million "date" with the very lovely, elegant and fashionable First Lady?


the Lib solution to our problems.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | July 2, 2009 11:12 AM | Report abuse

As long as Sarah Palin is considered a leader in the Republican Party, many of us who are registered Republicans will remain locked out of the party. Politics has taken on the characteristics of a mindless prime time comedy show. She and Al Franken could make a dynamic comedy duo that might get rave reviews. Has the Republican party really become so mindless that they would actually consider her an asset? Or....are they that desperate?

Posted by: rgn1 | July 2, 2009 11:12 AM | Report abuse

"WASHINGTON -- Employers cut a larger-than-expected 467,000 jobs in June, driving the unemployment rate up to a 26-year high of 9.5 percent, suggesting that the economy's road to recovery will be a bumpy one. Economists had expected 363,000 job cuts last months, and that the jobless rate would rise to 9.6 percent from 9.4 percent in May.

Let's call it what it is - Lib economics"

And what would you call it 26 years ago when Reagan was president??

Posted by: RickJ | July 2, 2009 11:12 AM | Report abuse

The simple fact is that Sarah Palin will continue to be a face of the Republican party for 3 reasons:
1. Sarah Palin is the governor of Alaska & will easily win reelection in 2010.
Palin will likely bypass a 2012 Republican Presidential primary.
2. New Democratic US Senator Mark Begich is up for reelection the same year Palin would finish her 2nd term as Governor of Alaska. Palin could then run that US Senate seat and guarantee her staying power in national politics through Alaska politics.
3. The national media loves Sarah Palin! She sells and she's a story!

For these 3 reasons, Sarah Palin will be a story until 2020 and beyond...barring some major, major mishaps.

Posted by: reason5 | July 2, 2009 11:01 AM | Report abuse

"Lib economics" king_of_zouk? This is typical of right wing true believers. They get 8 years of virtually uninterruped application of their agenda, the economy predictably collapses, they get their stupid fat derrieres kicked out of office leaving Obama to clean it up, and then have the gall to blame it all on liberals.

No. This one belongs to the conservatives. What Obama is having to deal with isn't going to b cleaned up in the brief 6 months he has been in office. The problem with the GOP is that they listend to that Great Hog Limbaugh and now the nation and the world has to deal with the giant pile of feces they have left us.

Posted by: jaxas | July 2, 2009 11:00 AM | Report abuse

For the fourth time in six cases, the Supreme Court of the United States has reversed a decision for which Judge Sonia Sotomayor voted on the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals.

If this nominee were a white male, would this not raise questions about whether he should be elevated to a court that has found his previous decisions wrong two-thirds of the time when those decisions have been reviewed?

Is no one supposed to ask questions about qualifications, simply because this nominee is Hispanic and a woman? Have we become that mindless?

Qualifications are not simply a question of how long you have been doing something, but how well you have done it. Judge Sotomayor has certainly been on the federal bench long enough, but is being reversed four out of six times a sign of a job well done?

Posted by: king_of_zouk | July 2, 2009 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Obama won because being the smart guy trumped being the black guy. Palin loses in 2012 on the same theory -- Americans won't take a dumb President anymore (the GW Bush model is dead as dinner). Mitt Romney at least holds the smart factor to a draw. He loses on the weird factor.

Posted by: gbooksdc | July 2, 2009 10:58 AM | Report abuse

More like a dead cat bounce.

SECESSIONIST…

“The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government… And I won’t be buried under their damn flag,” - Joe Vogler in 1991, Founder of the Alaska Independence Party.....“I’m an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions."

Sarah Palin’s husband, Todd, was a member the Alaskan Independence Party, a radical group working for Alaskan secession from the United States. Todd Palin registered in October 1995 to the Alaska Independence Party and remained a member until 2002, when he registered as undeclared while his wife ran for political office. She is more than sympathetic to the cause of secession; she sleeps with a man who is committed to the idea of destroying the unity of the United States.

Sarah Palin and 'first dudes' political alliance with a terrorist who was murdered in 1993 during “a plastic explosives sale gone bad.” Todd Palin joined the party two years later. Neither Sarah nor Todd were 9 years old at the time.

Dexter Clark, vice chairman of the A.I.P.: refers to the American soldiers in Alaska as "occupying troops." Michael Hill, a representative of A.I.P., stated on Glen Beck’s program that the goal of the A.I.P. “is to dissolve the United States and the Constitution.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwvPNXYrIyI

Sarah congratulates the secession party on their political gains.

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Joe+Vogler+&hl=en&emb=0&aq=-1&oq=#

Palin is just another Republican working hard to destroy the USA.

Posted by: morenews1 | July 2, 2009 10:56 AM | Report abuse

"Let's call it what it is - Lib economics
Posted by: king_of_zouk"


“Screw Political Correctness” Sarah Palin in Her Own Words. Economics 101
http://www.themudflats.net/2009/06/04/4359/


BTW Palin got a D.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/09/gov-palin-on-wa.html

Posted by: sweetascandy | July 2, 2009 10:53 AM | Report abuse

There is only one question. Why is the left so afraid of this woman that they have to finance hatchet articles about her? If she is incompetent, it will show up in a campaign. The left must be scared that she is not incompetent. She obviously has great charisma.

Posted by: sportsfan2 | July 2, 2009 10:46 AM | Report abuse

DISTURBING!!!

SarahPAC 4th of July video. Oh you are definitely going to need an antacid after this! Updated!
http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.com/2009/06/sarahpac-4th-of-july-video-oh-you-are.html

BIZARRE VIDEO comes out a day before this cry for money and stranger SarahPAC which is FED regualted...if you go to the official SarahPAC website like being begged to do once there they ask you not to send money through the PAC but Palin's FRAUD TRUST FUND!!!

SarahPAC pushes for donations to meet deadline today
http://www.adn.com/palin/story/848230.html

Posted by: sweetascandy | July 2, 2009 10:44 AM | Report abuse

This is a great look at Repuke hypocrites:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090702/pl_politico/24435

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | July 2, 2009 10:42 AM | Report abuse

miesque: there's no reason to insult the intelligence of Canadian hockey players.
We recognized the stupidity of the Iraq invasion, and didn't buy into Bush's bullsh@t, and see Palin as the intelectual light weight she is. Even our conservative government went into a defecit to help stimulate the economy, so I think even our bad hockey players would only like her for obvious reasons.

Posted by: katem1 | July 2, 2009 10:40 AM | Report abuse

North Korea test-fired a third short-range missile on Thursday after earlier reports that it fired two surface-to-ship missiles earlier in the day, a South Korean defense ministry spokesman said. The test-fires are a move that aggravates the already high tensions following Pyongyang's recent nuclear test and U.N. sanctions imposed as punishment.

Let's call it what it is - Lib foreign weakness

Posted by: king_of_zouk | July 2, 2009 10:39 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is Bob Roberts in a skirt. Unfortunately for Sarah Palin, this is not a movie, and she has to deal with several Republican man who might get between her and the nomination.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | July 2, 2009 10:39 AM | Report abuse

WASHINGTON -- Employers cut a larger-than-expected 467,000 jobs in June, driving the unemployment rate up to a 26-year high of 9.5 percent, suggesting that the economy's road to recovery will be a bumpy one. Economists had expected 363,000 job cuts last months, and that the jobless rate would rise to 9.6 percent from 9.4 percent in May.

Let's call it what it is - Lib economics

Posted by: king_of_zouk | July 2, 2009 10:38 AM | Report abuse

She has far more experience then the community organizer, flip flopper, socialist, blame America first,axelrod's puppet in their now! I like the fact that she scares the crap out of the far left wing loons.I think her and Liz Cheney would give their messiah fits in 2012?of course by then the country will be demanding obama and the democrats heads!!

Posted by: votingrevolution | July 2, 2009 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Welcome once again to the wacky world of Alaska politics. When we last left our governor, she was involved in a knock down drag out fight with David Letterman over a crass comment about her daughter getting “knocked up” during a baseball game. We all know how that turned out, and regardless of which side you were on, or whether you were somewhere in the middle, it was quite a spectacle. A battle of the Titans. Former VP candidate and Queen of Alaska Sarah Palin vs. The Undisputed King of Late Night Comedy who can make or break politicians with his sometimes acid tongue, and always razor sharp wit. It was quite a show that culminated in 15 protesters and 35 members of the media showing up outside the Ed Sullivan Theater in New York City asking that the aforementioned King of Comedy get fired from his job.

Fast forward a few weeks.

Local Alaskan political watchdog and blogger Linda Kellen Biegel is in the middle of a project. She’s working in virtual obscurity in Alaska, to get email records released that she feels will reveal questionable communications between the Palin administration and a local gossip columnist, and a local pro-Palin conservative radio talk show host. Palin herself has appeared on the show many times, in addition to her family members, her lawyer, her spokeswoman and various other members of the administration.

The talk show host in question, Eddie Burke, recently showed up at an Anchorage Assembly meeting to give public testimony about an upcoming Municipal gay rights ordinance wearing this.

http://www.themudflats.net/2009/06/25/palin-blasts-blogger-again/

Posted by: sweetascandy | July 2, 2009 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Breaking News - Three More Ethics Complaints Against Palin, and Then Some?!
24

06

2009
Alaska Report has breaking news! According to the site, there are three (count ‘em…THREE) ethics complaints against Governor Sarah Palin coming down the pike.

Mention is also made of a “long simmering embezzlement/IRS scandal” that is still being looked at by the feds.
http://alaskareport.com/

Posted by: sweetascandy | July 2, 2009 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin was not and remains unqualified for any national office. Of course there are many who hold national office who are also unqualified. It is the elctorate that puts such people into office that is the problem in this country. A democracy requires an educated and informed polity, of which there are many but there are just as many fools. Those who hold real power, count on the fools. Which camp are you in?

Posted by: robertmerry | July 2, 2009 10:29 AM | Report abuse

The Fix, normally astute, has been a blind apologist for Palin from the start.

Posted by: uh_huhh | July 2, 2009 10:25 AM | Report abuse

Palin's as mayor of 5,000 is a claim to fame and experience....LMAO.

THIS is Palin all on her own w/out 20 handlers trying to spin her dumbas ss.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMocEINn-E8

Posted by: sweetascandy | July 2, 2009 10:25 AM | Report abuse

Look. I have no problem admitting that Sarah Palin does scare the crap out of me. The very idea that such a flat out whack job got selected at all for the VP slot amazes me! I mean this is a woman who was part of an organization that wanted Alaska to secede! And her political views are not just conservative--they are flat out Nazi like!

Yes. If there is one thing I have learned about the American voter it is that they snooze a lot. They don't stay focused. They are not diciplined enough to distinguish between a carny flim-flam man (Rush Limbaugh) and a serious polemicist (Diane Rehm). And they are fickle.

I would not have believed that John McCain would ever have selected someone so obviously unqualified for high office as Palin. But politicians get desperate when the big one is on the line. Sarah Palin as President of the United States? You G-damned right that scares me. I love my country and don't want to see it become some sort of right wing Fourth Reich!

Posted by: jaxas | July 2, 2009 10:24 AM | Report abuse

MORE LIES from Palin

OK…Just for the record, the box on the voter registration doesn’t say “Independent” or “Alaska Independent” or “Independent Alaskan”. It says “Alaskan Indpendence Party” and no Alaskan who was born and raised here, and has lived here all their life is going to confuse the Alaskan Independence Party with Non-Partisan. There is no plausible ”Oops! Checked off the secessionist box by mistake!” scenario.

As this email story circulates throughout the state, there will be a lot of good chuckles over that “pants on fire” statement, believe you me. She might have been trying to fool the McCain campaign, but she’s not fooling Alaskans.

http://www.themudflats.net/2009/07/01/the-accidental-secessionist-an-alaskan-fable/

Posted by: sweetascandy | July 2, 2009 10:20 AM | Report abuse

@edharris....ignore Chevy, please

Posted by: crazyeagle | July 2, 2009 10:19 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is still a joke, a dangerous, racist, separatist, bible banger !|

Posted by: philosopherkingtomas | July 2, 2009 10:19 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is still a joke, a dangerous, racist, separatist, bible banger !|

Posted by: philosopherkingtomas | July 2, 2009 10:19 AM | Report abuse

Palin a LIAR much?

Palin's OFFICIAL STATEMENT attempting to sway ethics violations from being submitted against her.

"In the past two years, the state of Alaska has spent millions of dollars processing ethics complaints, public records requests, and related lawsuits. ###"
http://www.gov.state.ak.us/archive.php?id=1923&type=1

THE TRUTH
Ethics investigations cost state $296,000
2/3rds of which Palin brought on herself.
http://www.adn.com/palin/story/850854.html

BTW, ADN routinely SCRUBS commentary last night there were over 700 comments from really pissed off Alaskans over Palin's LIES.

Posted by: sweetascandy | July 2, 2009 10:18 AM | Report abuse

Mark, the totalitarian governments in Laos and Burma have made growing opium a capital offense. While I am sure some opium would be grown somewhere, there are very few places in the world with no central governments (opium would not grow in Somalia, even if they had enough water which they don't). Plus, there are many more benefits to buying the whole crop than starving the Taliban, which is a worthy goal in itself. Once they have shriveled and died (they pay a lot of money to their jihadis - Foreign Affairs Quarterly has an excellent article on "Flipping" the Taliban this issue, by the way) the stability in Afghanistan will make it an important American ally in the region, stabilize the Pakistan border region and do on.

The farmers will grow whatever they can sell and converting their crops can only occur after the war ends anyway - so if buying the crop helps end the war, that just speeds the pace at which the markets convert to food production.

There are lots of collateral benefits...
Obviously, Heroin is a scourge, and driving its price through the roof would save a lot of lives.


Bottom line: The United States is spending fantastic amounts of money fighting an irregular army that is funded by the sale of a drug which they buy very cheaply and sell for a whole lot of money. We can very easily change that equation.

Looking at Helmand River on Google Earth, I worry for the lives of the Leathernecks on the ground there tonight. It is very complicated terrain.

Posted by: shrink2 | July 2, 2009 10:18 AM | Report abuse

The continuing phobic attacks on Sarah Palin are doing no favors to the liberals and is actually promoting and creating a national figure for everything that is anti-far-left and gender discrimination. The Republicans did not have this nationally recognized figure, but now they do, thanks to the liberals. Thank you, crazy leftists, and please, keep it up.

Posted by: JohnGalt9 | July 2, 2009 10:17 AM | Report abuse

Those of you who claim that Democrats are "afraid", "terrified" or "scared to death" of Palin are drinking some serious Kool-Aid (or is it Kook-Aid?). When she can make sense during a real interview (not a fluff piece), we might start worrying.

Posted by: aallen1 | July 2, 2009 10:15 AM | Report abuse

@ Daniel Cabrera in Indiana. You are one funny dude...Carrie Prejean?

Posted by: crazyeagle | July 2, 2009 10:14 AM | Report abuse

"Especaiily seeing the Chimp's poll numbers in the toilet.
Chevy
Posted by: MrPotatoHead98 | July 2, 2009 9:58 AM"
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Um, who's "Chimp"?
Obama?
Chimp is short for chimpanzee, isn't it?
So, are you saying Obama is a Chimp(anzee)?

Posted by: edlharris | July 2, 2009 10:11 AM | Report abuse


"You could title your next article, "Venezuela attacks America," then talk about how Hugo Chavez attacks the character of Americans (which he does). You'd get plenty of hits."

Palin LOVES talking about Alaska ABUNDANT oil wells and providing 20% (LIE) of U.S..

Palin won't even try to conjure up a FREAKIN excuse for ignoring Alaskans in need, allowing Chavez to FLOW his SOCIALIST CRIMINAL WEALTH into Alaska.

Unbelievable anyone would support this creep.


Alaskan Villages Will Get Free Citgo Heating Fuel Again
Self-styled U.S. foe Chavez pays for program to benefit poor communities.
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2009/03/26-2

Posted by: sweetascandy | July 2, 2009 10:10 AM | Report abuse

Look. All of this back-and-forth on Palin is amusing and entertaining but, there is a truth to be faced up to here. Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh, Dick Cheney, Newt Gingrich and all of the rest of those who call themselves "conservative" but are in reality radical, fundamentalist neocons, are a dying breed.

It is all in the demographics. The media doesn't like to talk about it because it also affects themn in a negative way owing to the fact that so many of them have made fortunes off the old culture war issues. But those issues have faded, the Religious Right has diminished as a political force and right wing conservatism as a political brand name has suffered severe damage.

America is a centrist country. Sometimes it is center right. At the moment, owing to the recent economic collapse, it has moved left. Calls for limited government and less regulation of business are ridiculously inappropriate to the times.

The GOP kows this. It is rather like a lover who has lost her beauty and youth. The GOP needs a makeover and the first step is to get rid of all of those wrinkles and age spots. Newt Gingrich is an age spot. Sarah Palin is a wrinkle. And Rush Limbaugh--he is flat out bowel cancer and should be excised as soon as possible!

Posted by: jaxas | July 2, 2009 10:07 AM | Report abuse

"The only comparison that makes the US Congress look wise is the one that can be made to big state Leges, it seems."

It's easier when you're allowed to run a deficit, which the states can't do. You can see the effects of this best in California where attempts at tax increases were recently thwarted.

People are going to have to make hard choices. We aren't used to it. Unfortunately, we don't have a bunch of Obamas running things on the state level to make this case.

Posted by: DDAWD | July 2, 2009 10:07 AM | Report abuse

vbhoomes wrote: "The way this economy is going, we could put Dan Qualye and Sarah Palin on the same ticket and win in 2012."

Yes, we all know it was Obama that started the economy mess, the Iraq mess, and worked to make 911 happen. We all know Obama has a secret agenda to destroy America. We all know Sarah is the genious who will save us all. Yes, yes, yes, we all agree Obama is the idiot and Sarah is the genious. Feel better?

Why do republicans hate America so much that they would support the likes of Sarah or Dan in any position of power in this great land?

Posted by: bevjims1 | July 2, 2009 10:03 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin may be a decent person. I saw nothing in her that shows the leadership qualities needed to run a country. I am still appalled that the GOP picked her and she had to be brought up to speed on the most basic issues. As an American and woman it was insulting that they assumed they would get the women's votes by putting her on the ticket. I disagree with her on many social issues, but that is not what made me question her running as VP. It is her inability to use any critical thinking skills beyond her own narrow views. She could never represent this country as a whole, a very, very large percentage of the population do no see her as anywhere close to someone they want representing them within or outside of this Nation. I think she needs to pay more attention to raising her own children, she doesn't even have their best interest in mind, how could she take care of this countries best interests.
I just wish one person would tell me exactly what makes them even consider supporting her in a Presidential run. Just one, concrete reason, noe some vague reason, one concrete reason, not having to do with her faith or anti-choice stance.

Posted by: freespiritheart1 | July 2, 2009 10:02 AM | Report abuse

The tighty-righties are in good form today.

Please, whatever you do GOP, don't nominate Palin in 2012! Why, there's nothing more I'm afraid of than Palin getting out there on the Rush show and firing up that base. She'd mop the floor with Obama. He wouldn't stand a chance.

And don't throw me in the briar patch either.

Posted by: bigbrother1 | July 2, 2009 10:00 AM | Report abuse

"Well, I think we know why Chris keeps putting up so many damn Palin articles. Look at the comments section. I guess he
doesn't want to go the way of the Froomkins of the world.

It's terrible for discussion, but intelligent discussion isn't the bottom line."

Posted by: DDAWD | July 2, 2009 9:17 AM | Report abuse

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So you're telling me that WaPo would never expose the use of taxpayer monies to fund political "blog mobbing" black ops -- in apparent violation of federal anti-propaganda laws -- because they need the page "hits"?

How cynical! Of course, I agree that the WaPo investigative unit (is there still such a thing?) needs to prioritize. Perhaps they should start by investigating THIS:


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MEMO TO BOB WOODWARD: Please inform General Jim Jones (national security advisor) that the secretive security/military/intel "multi-agency coordinated action program" that is extrajudically targeting, stalking, harassing and torturing thousands of unjustly targeted American citizens with covertly implanted GPS devices, microwave radiation "directed energy weapons," and secret "programs of personal financial destruction," has been exposed and must be swiftly dismantled, with consequences...

...before he and others in command are accused of enabling domestic terrorism and crimes against humanity.

Details here:

nowpublic.com/world/gestapo-usa-govt-funded-vigilante-network-terrorizes-america

OR (if link is corrupted / disabled):

http://NowPublic.com/scrivener RE: "GESTAPO USA"

Posted by: scrivener50 | July 2, 2009 9:59 AM | Report abuse

It amazes me how DEMS are so fearful of Sarah Palin and they tell you they aren't they're liars. What else is new.

Sarah Palin is #1 in all polls of most favored republican. Sarah Palin will be our next president in 2012, especially the way the RATS are abusing our country's future. Especaiily seeing the Chimp's poll numbers in the toilet.

Chevy

Posted by: MrPotatoHead98 | July 2, 2009 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Regarding Sarah Palin, have you heard about bad pennies? The adjective remains the same.

Posted by: EarlC | July 2, 2009 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Honest to God, Cilizza -- you've popped your gourd. Why are you spending one freakin' second on that odious woman and her ignorant hopes?

Please, for the love of God, can we just pretend that she never happened? Can't you just let us forget that hateful old cow? Why are you even interested in that piece of Alaska trailer park trash?

Posted by: Karmicquickdraw | July 2, 2009 9:55 AM | Report abuse

(Laughing) if she's the best you have, GOP, go for it. (Still laughing). I can see the GOP's demise from my house.

Posted by: soonerthought | July 2, 2009 9:55 AM | Report abuse

shrink2, the "War on Drugs" was lost many years ago and probably has wasted, by some estimates, $500B since its inception, so many years ago. I agree with your view that opium fuels the Taliban, just as hash fuels the Hizbollah in the Bekaa Valley.

I am toying with your idea that we buy all the opium. What are the unintended consequences?

1] It would reinforce Afghani farmers in their NOT growing foodstuffs - the country was self-sufficient in AG thirty-five years ago and is not now.

2] Marketable opium would be again grown elsewhere.

So is that worth starving the Taliban from their revenue source? Could be.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | July 2, 2009 9:51 AM | Report abuse

By all means nominate Palin instead of someone like Mitt Romney. Go ahead, we dare you, freakazoid droolers!

We especially can't wait to see what brain-dead fool would agree to play second banana to your aging bimbo pin-up queen.

Sincerely,

The Democrats

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | July 2, 2009 9:50 AM | Report abuse

For reaganiterepublicanresistance: I will make you a prediction. In 2012, democrats will add to their Senate numbers. In the House, the GOP may pick up a few seats but surprise of surprises they will be more moderate centrist candidates.

By 2012, republicans will have gotten the message that Palin, Gingrich, Limbaugh and the retro philosophy they represent is a dead end for the GOP and a sure prescription for staying in the wilderness for 30 years.

This is coming from your own analysts within the bowels of the GOP. They are furiously working to find a way to divest themselves of a movement that is no longer seen by a majority of Americans as anything other than a fringe, wacko element that wants to take America back to an obsolete, 18th century way of governing.

Some of them have already concluded that breaking with the far right is the only way to save the party. Ultimately, demographic trends will wipe away the unworkable philosophy that people like Limbaugh, Gingrrich and Palin subscribe to.

Posted by: jaxas | July 2, 2009 9:48 AM | Report abuse

Hey Gizilla - How many articles is this you personally trashed Sarah Palin? You just can't get enough of her. BTW, after viewing your pic you can only dream of having a woman like Sarah Palin. I bet your wife is a 300 pounder who eats corndogs all day and then sits on your face, you look the type.

You and the Rats on here are so pathetic!

Chevy

Posted by: MrPotatoHead98 | July 2, 2009 9:48 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is the epitome of what happens when a major enterprise prostitutes itself to make one group happy.
Gov Palin was not qualified for VP, and more importantly, is not now qualified to be the leader of the free world. I feel the need to emphasize this: GOV PALIN IS NOT QUALIFIED TO BE THE LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD. I'm saying this as someone who has been a registered Republican since I could vote.
For those that remember, if the (Jimmy) Carter family was fodder for late night comedians, the Palin family will provide employment for many comedians for years.

Gov Palin's abilities have been used to govern a state with a population as big as Memphis TN. It took her 6(?) years to get her Bachelor's Degree. She has shown no grasp of foreign policy. Personally, I think she considers those who have an international bent to be elitist and priviledged. I won't even get to her knowledge" of the Constitution (do you mind if we ban a couple of books ?)
With all the smart, highly qualified Conservative women out there, surely the GOP could have found someone better qualified.
Frankly, Jenny Sanford would be a great candidate

Posted by: adipalm1 | July 2, 2009 9:47 AM | Report abuse

"I am an independent. I think it's interesting when repubs say that democrats are afraid of Palin....

Nothing could be further from the truth and that fact, in part, is why repubs are doing so poorly in politics right now."


Exactly. Only die-hard Republicans see anything in Palin. Democrats certainly aren't scared of her and independents are just scared of her in charge...

Posted by: lightgrw | July 2, 2009 9:41 AM | Report abuse

Palin has some "anonymous" (always anonymous) detractors, and it's spun as a major character flaw, and split in the GOP.

Obama spends 20 years with a nutty, racist minister, and its spun as "he can't control Wright"

The hypocracy of the main-stream media is alarming.

Posted by: pgr88 | July 2, 2009 9:39 AM | Report abuse

You Palin supporters better be donating all the money you have to Sarah's PAC. Seriously. She wants your money and the Democrats want you to give it to her. Do it.

Meanwhile, we could buy all of the opium Afghanistan produces for very little money.
This would instantly end the war there. Or is that our goal?

Do Americans understand that it is the world's drug addicts funding the Taliban?

Now that Burma and Laos have stopped producing opium, our government says the Afghans produce 93% of the opium processed into heroin for the junkies of the world.

And a kilo of opium costs a mere $7-$11 (all agricultural commodity prices vary) at the farm gate. The massive increase in its cost as it arrives in other countries as contraband...is going to the terrorists, the warlords and, yep, our allies in the Afghan "government".

But our psychotic "war on drugs" mentality just goes on and on, as relentless in its cost as in its utter failure.


Posted by: shrink2 | July 2, 2009 9:38 AM | Report abuse

It's fine that Sarah Palin is a likable person capable of being respected. That's fine, but... more, much, much more is needed to run a country like the United States. She would have to spend too much time being distracted on "personal attacks" to stay foused on business. And *MOST* importantly, she would have to appear on Meet The Press.
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Posted by: Evenfoolsarerightsometimes | July 2, 2009 9:38 AM | Report abuse

"...unteachable political skills"

Where to start with that idiotic quote?!?

Ok, I'll take a swing:

Stupidity could be defined as "unteachability". Hence, one could say that palin had 'stupid' political skills. Which means that McCain is calling her stupid. Which she is.

Posted by: Heerman532 | July 2, 2009 9:37 AM | Report abuse

Amendment: DDAWD, both your points are well taken.

The Marine strike is clearly a test of our new strategy and we cannot know if it will work, in advance. It depends on the perception that villagers still trust us or will trust us. I think that is why theconscious decision not to bomb populated areas was made, even if it tips a tactic to the Taliban.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | July 2, 2009 9:36 AM | Report abuse

Vbhoomes, are you living on planet earth or some outpost on Titan? Joe Biden on his worst day comes off as an intellectual giant compared to Sarah Palin! God God man! Just listen to her. It actually causes pain to listen: "Oh, Golly gee willikers! We just gotta git in there and start reform all them libral programs! WINK WINK!"

She may be hot in that mushbrained circle you run in VB, but to most of us, she comes off as the worst kind of notwit. At least Newt can taske a nutty right wing idea and make it sound intelligent.

Posted by: jaxas | July 2, 2009 9:36 AM | Report abuse

"And I think all the hindsight second guessing and back looking does nothing."

Because things are much easier to ignore when you pretend they didn't happen.

Posted by: trident420 | July 2, 2009 9:35 AM | Report abuse

DDAWD, your point is well taken.

This morning we read that CA is issuing IOUs to state employees and that the Lege simply cannot get it together to raise revenue. We read in Chris' post that Meg Whitman is spending millions of her own bucks to become Gov of CA. WHY?

Of course, CA's Lege has little on NY's Lege [busily NOT meeting]. But my Lege, which had ended its regular session in a fury of dead legislation leaving whole departments unfunded, is handling business with alacrity in the Special Session so they can go home for the Fourth.

The only comparison that makes the US Congress look wise is the one that can be made to big state Leges, it seems.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | July 2, 2009 9:32 AM | Report abuse

Now we again have yet another crude attack on Sarah Palin, factually inaccurate and mostly unsubstantiated by Vanity Fair so as to stir-the-pot, so then the press can descend upon various Republicans to try and quote them in contradiction to one another... same underhanded game for months now.

It’s also not difficult to see why Democrats might prefer to banter playfully about made-up GOP “scandals” and irrelevancies like Meghan’s latest drivel than debate Obama’s ongoing destruction of the country-

And Palin is for real... best get used to it.

http://reaganiterepublicanresistance.blogspot.com/

Posted by: ReaganiteRepublican | July 2, 2009 9:31 AM | Report abuse

Oh, I get it Chris. If such a damaging article comes out about Sarah Palin, all it takes is a few of here sycophants on the right to get in touch with you and others in the media to lather her up with their lovesick pap, and voila! She's on the rebound!

Look. Sarah Palin never got beyond that tiny fringe on the right after she started giving out media interviews and it became glaringly apparent just how unequpped she was for national office. The far right has an ugly habit of puffing up the very worst sorts of people--Dan Quale, Rush Limbaugh, the hapless Alan Keyes, Newt Gingrich and now, Sarah Palin.

The media predictably goes along because such rancid personalities provide ratings and circulation fodder. The truth is that these people are unacceptable to the larger body of everyday Americans who look at them and wonder in amazement: What in God's name has happened to the republican party?

Posted by: jaxas | July 2, 2009 9:29 AM | Report abuse

"Chris, thank you for the link to the Marine mission in the Helmand Valley in Afghanistan. This should be the main story of the day. This is the first test of our new strategy and depends on the commitment to work with the locals, who fear both the Taliban and their own police. But this is no touchy feely strike - it is a large marine force in a big region using major firepower. It has as a component the longer term commitment to nation building."

Seems also like it's a test of the willingness of the Afghani people to work with the US which I don't automatically assume as a given. People don't like the Taliban there, but do they dislike them more than armed US soldiers living among them?

I'm not saying this won't work, but I'm skeptical.

Posted by: DDAWD | July 2, 2009 9:28 AM | Report abuse

Hey folks, you are being fooled by an optical illusion:

Palin is not 'moving up'. Fact is, Sanford, Ensign, Piyush, Gingrich, Limbaugh and the other leaders are dropping so fast that it is giving the impression that palin is shooting upward.

Relatively speaking - the entire group is dropping vis-a-vis the Democratic party. Some are dropping much faster than others.

Its an optical illusion. Try looking at some national polls for a reference point. The GOP couldn't win a job as dog catcher in a national election right now.

Posted by: Heerman532 | July 2, 2009 9:28 AM | Report abuse

The critical question remains - Will Ms. Palin be wearing her MC HAMMER glasses when she is elected in Nov 2012? We need answers. The question is commensurate with the level of seriousness we should assign to her political aspriations.

Posted by: ratsmoker | July 2, 2009 9:24 AM | Report abuse

For all of you Palin crtics out there, Biden has said far more stupid things in a month than Palin in her lifetime. Why the double standards? Are you sexists?

Posted by: vbhoomes | July 2, 2009 9:23 AM | Report abuse

Lest on forgets the "this is so much worse than I would have thought" effect generated by Gov. Palin, CNBC re-ran a special on oil the other evening that was filmed during the election. My goodness is she not bright.

Posted by: tparadise1 | July 2, 2009 9:19 AM | Report abuse

THAT 3 A.M. phone call with Palin answering is scary -- even if she CAN see Russia from her kitchen window.

A poorly educated religious fanatic whose claim to fame is a 'borrowed'wardrobe and beauty queen make-over is not qualified to govern this great nation.

Please, somebody get her a job in PR or HR or the Walmart entry...wink wink, nudge nudge.

Posted by: suzeq | July 2, 2009 9:18 AM | Report abuse

Well, I think we know why Chris keeps putting up so many damn Palin articles. Look at the comments section. I guess he doesn't want to go the way of the Froomkins of the world.

It's terrible for discussion, but intelligent discussion isn't the bottom line.

Posted by: DDAWD | July 2, 2009 9:17 AM | Report abuse

On the 4000 Marines going into the poppy fields and villages of Helmand, Brig. Gen. Larry Nicholson, their commander, who was nearly blown apart in Iraq, was interviewed this morning on NPR.

Chris gives us links to stories that are worthy of discussion but most of you are spending a third or fourth day railing against the governor of Alaska, as if called by dog whistles. "Palin" blogs are among the least illuminating conversations on the web.

Why do you think anyone is convinced by the excess of your rancor, expressed in print [or more rarely, the excess of adulation]? I suspect it is because others respond in an excess of rancor or adulation, and you count them as converts to your logic. This must be similar to the mechanism that gives us lynch mobs, on the one hand, and wilful resignation to rabble rousing dictators, on the other.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | July 2, 2009 9:16 AM | Report abuse

I am an independent. I think it's interesting when repubs say that democrats are afraid of Palin....

Nothing could be further from the truth and that fact, in part, is why repubs are doing so poorly in politics right now.

She has demonstrated over and over that she is not even almost ready for prime time.

She might make a nice neighbor, but who would want their neighbor involved with running the country?

Any resources that are invested in Palin is like throwing them down a hole and I for one, am mind-boggled that anyone would find her appealing in any way.

Mind-boggled is way different from fear, although some people apparently can't tell the difference.

So when I am presented with the choice of believing repub talking heads or my lying eyes and ears, I have no problem picking my eyes and ears.

Watching the drama that seems to follow her around is like watching wrestling.

It's interesting for a while, but a waste of time and energy until you can see the entertainment value that includes the audience interaction.

Posted by: RichRable | July 2, 2009 9:10 AM | Report abuse

This filthy rag of a paper aka the WashingtonCOMPOST was caught red-handed pimping. What a filthy organization who continues to abuse its position.

For $25,000 to $250,000, The Washington Post is offering lobbyists and association executives off the record, non-confrontational access to "those powerful few" — Obama administration officials, members of Congress, and the paper’s own reporters and editors.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0709/24441.html#ixzz0K6dMD9Hc&D

Chevy - Bringing you NEWS the Compost refuses to report.

Posted by: MrPotatoHead98 | July 2, 2009 8:55 AM | Report abuse

Totally agree Mark, when we are on the same side as Castro, Chavez and the Chavez wantabe in Honduras, you have got to be concerned. People need to remember Hitler took power through legal and democratic processes. Honduras Supreme Court and Congress ruled the ex-President of Honduras could not run again, but he was following Chavezs path for stealing the democracy in Honduras. It only seemed like last week Obama was telling us we cannot take sides in Iran. Whats next, Obama telling us he wants the option of running for a 3rd term.

Posted by: vbhoomes | July 2, 2009 8:55 AM | Report abuse

This woman is simply too stupid and unsophisticated to ever be taken seriously as a leader, but she is just bright enough to be politically dangerous! Speaking as a typical middle of the road American citizen who has voted for candidates from both parties over the years, there is no possible way that I'd ever knowingly elect an individual as self obsessed as Sarah Palin to any significant public office.

Posted by: Doowadiddy | July 2, 2009 8:54 AM | Report abuse

Morcab, read about the early history of the Nazi party and the SA. Ultranationalism at it's best. Populations whipped into a frenzy by charismatic speakers. Just saying....

Posted by: steveinohio | July 2, 2009 8:51 AM | Report abuse


What the paranoid Liberals apparently fail to understand is the more they launch their immature hate Palin rants the more her base gets fired up. She is a real threat to your freakishly Liberal Socialist philosophy. More and more Americans see your school yard smear antics for what they are. More Americans are Conservative and when Libs lash out as a defensive response to threats those Conservatives and Independents step away from the angry Liberal mindset.

Posted by: ChangeWhat | July 2, 2009 8:49 AM | Report abuse

vbhoomes, have you read either the link to the Marine strike in Afghanistan or the article about the Honduran ex-president?

You would find both articles more interesting than this conversation. I am really hopeful for the long term success of the operation in the Helmand Valley.
The more I read about the Honduras situation, the more unhappy I am with the Admin's response top it.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | July 2, 2009 8:46 AM | Report abuse

Yay! Scriv showed up....funny, though. I was just thinking of you after reading morcab's comments...but I doubt you two have much in common!

Posted by: steveinohio | July 2, 2009 8:44 AM | Report abuse

A "REBOUND"?

OR A DEAD CAT BOUNCE?


***

FED SECRETIVE SECURITY AGENCIES FUND, OVERSEE NATIONWIDE VIGILANTE 'GESTAPO" -- EXTRAJUDICIAL BYPASS OF THE RULE OF LAW

• Civilian volunteers fronted by federally-funded organizations such as Citizen Corps, Infragard and USA on Watch stalk, harass, vandalize, terrorize unjustly "targeted" persons and families with covertly implanted GPS tracking devices -- an unconstitutional extrajudicial targeting and punishment "matrix."

• Reports of torture, disabling injury from silent microwave radiation "directed energy weapons" widely deployed to local law enforcement under various federal programs from agencies that include the Justice Department.

• Feds, locals refuse to investigate victim complaints in nationwide cover-up of alleged atrocities, enabled by co-opted and complicit local police -- an American social genocide/politicide.

• Array of "programs of personal financial destruction" slowly destroy livelihoods and family finances -- a slow, methodical social genocide that targets those labeled as "dissidents," or "social deviates," whistle-blowers, ethnic and religious minorities.

WHEN WILL CONGRESS AND THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION WAKE UP AND RESTORE THE RULE OF LAW IN AMERICA?

http://nowpublic.com/world/gestapo-usa-govt-funded-vigilante-network-terrorizes-america

OR (if link is corrupted / disabled):

http://NowPublic.com/scrivener

Posted by: scrivener50 | July 2, 2009 8:39 AM | Report abuse

The way this economy is going, we could put Dan Qualye and Sarah Palin on the same ticket and win in 2012.

Posted by: vbhoomes | July 2, 2009 8:39 AM | Report abuse

It takes an individual with good character,integrity, and honestry to defend, and stand up for what is correct, noble and just.Gov Sarah Palin fits the marks, so is clear the solidarization in high latitud platform like the one held by Miss Carrie Prejean

Expect this kind of suport for defense on LIFE, FAMILY AND COUNTRY from Gov Sarah Palin , for she is a true real patriot.

I do agree with Mr Bill O'reilly, that the republican party does need a DELIVERER or MESENGER ,...as he said : - virtually quoted;- ..."someone as charismatic as Obama for the campaign to be successful...."

I also concour with Mr Miller that a dueto Gingrich-Palin is a formidable one. In addition I must add the high possibility that the CHARISMATIC POWER to energize at very elevated ranks all is pointing to Gov Palin for she is a REAL - NATURAL galvanizing factor for the VALUES AND PRINCIPLES THAT CHARACTERIZE THE FOUNDATION OF THE CONSERVATISM OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE BY CONSTITUTIONAL CONFIGURATION .
And so , will not take me for surprise if the PRIMARY ELECTION FOR PRESIDENT CANDIDATES , Gov Palin will make the high numbers.In any event all seems profiling well because either way: Gingrich-Palin or Palin-Gingrich, or Palin-someone else,... the real WINNER WILL BE THE PEOPLE OF OUR GREAT CONTRY.

Democrats are AFRAID of Limbaugh,Hannity,Michael Steele,AnnCoulter,Laura Ingraham,Glenn Beck, 'WE',THE PEOPLE' of this great country,and MONUMENTALLY TERRORIZED BY GOV SARAH PALIN, who everyone knows she could delivers much better presidential leadership than Obama.Palin's 'Alaska Formula', adjusted to nation-wide proportion can implement efficient answers to the economic arena.After all EVERYONE KNOWS that she has MUCH MORE, BY FAR, much more DIRECTORAL - EXECUTIVE EXPERIENCE, than Obama and Biden together. The public knows this, and so,the electorate are having second thougths about this current administration.

And there you have it, in short,without details.

Good day everyone,
Daniel Cabrera
Merrillviile indiana

PS - The tv tabloids (NBC, CNN, MSNBC) , and tabloid publications such as , THE NEW YORK TIMES, THE HUFFINGTON POST, LA TIMES , etc,... along with what is left of the quasi-hypoitized brainless "utra-obamanized " cool aid drinkers people, will not take this one lightly.

Posted by: morcab | July 2, 2009 8:37 AM | Report abuse

Sarah came on the scene as a tremendously likeable and accomplished person. She gave some initial hope since we had such a dismal bunch of candidates. But she wasn't ready. She now is doing nothing to get ready. She needs to study issues and stop engaging in all these petty exchanges. I think she's blown it and has little chance of redemption. None, unless she totally changes her act. Still, i can't help but like her a little bit, not enough to vote for her, of course. Guess I'm just reflecting on that moment of hope. I see none on the horizon now.

Posted by: Steve851 | July 2, 2009 8:36 AM | Report abuse

I never cease to be amazed at how afraid the Dems are of Sarah Palin. This is so obvious because they just cannot let go of taking shots at her. That long-face of Senator Kerry making a stupid joke about why couldn't Gov. Palin go missing instead of Gov. Sanford. Even the Boston Globe received negative posts about Sen Kerry in about a 10 to 1 ratio over that comment.

Posted by: jack71 | July 2, 2009 8:34 AM | Report abuse

Dude--seriously. If you want to give your headline any kind of credence, don't just quote a bunch of Palin and McCain handlers. That's like asking Col. Sanders if his deep fried chicken is good for you...

Posted by: steveinohio | July 2, 2009 8:33 AM | Report abuse

See

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/01/AR2009070103210.html?wpisrc=newsletter&wpisrc=newsletter

for another important world story. Seems to me the Prez is not on the side of justice and freedom on this one.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | July 2, 2009 8:29 AM | Report abuse

"She has the ability to galvanize the base..."

The hateful right-wing base of ignorant Huckabees.

Posted by: coloradodog | July 2, 2009 8:28 AM | Report abuse

Seriously folks - would she even stand a change had we not all experienced GWB? NO! But her chances so soon after dumb holding the most powerful office in the world would prevent Americans from electing dumber to serve as our leader.

Palin's not now nor will she ever be ready for prime time and I'm just grateful that that "GOP Base" consists of a mere 20% of America - not likley to grow from there.

Posted by: Kathy5 | July 2, 2009 8:27 AM | Report abuse


NICE ASSS!!

Posted by: chasemonster | July 2, 2009 8:26 AM | Report abuse

I love Sarah Palin! Even more, I love hateful Democrats who go apoplectic whenever her name is mentioned. She gets under your skin, and I LOVE her for it!!

PALIN 2012

Posted by: gmo171 | July 2, 2009 8:22 AM | Report abuse

I'll take back my comment about Palin being a brain damaged moron if she can correctly find Iran on a world map. (I will put down $10 that she can't.)

Posted by: Pupster | July 2, 2009 8:21 AM | Report abuse

Chris, thank you for the link to the Marine mission in the Helmand Valley in Afghanistan. This should be the main story of the day. This is the first test of our new strategy and depends on the commitment to work with the locals, who fear both the Taliban and their own police. But this is no touchy feely strike - it is a large marine force in a big region using major firepower. It has as a component the longer term commitment to nation building.

I once heard Zinni say that Marines can do anything; even peacekeeping and nation building if they are trained for it. Petraeus is an Army guy, but he must have faith in these Marines. Semper fi!

Posted by: mark_in_austin | July 2, 2009 8:18 AM | Report abuse

Palin is a sympathetic figure in the same way that Sanford is a sympathetic figure. People are mesmerized by the "train wrecks" these two public figures have become.

We watch them create and attempt to repair the chaos. They choose to engage in the behaviors generating public interest, positive or negative, a source of great wonderment to many. Why? What is he or she thinking? are two of the questions that often come to mind as Palin and Sanford speak.

I haven't any sympathy for either. I'm closer to pitying the two. We've had more then enough Palin, and Sanford has worn us down in the few days his life imploded. Enough.

Posted by: portiaperu | July 2, 2009 8:18 AM | Report abuse

Sarah was, is and remains pathetic and laughable. People might think that programs like "My Name is Earl" are works of fiction, but when you hear someone like Palin talk you realize that these programs are based on real people, people like Sarah Palin.

Posted by: jjedif | July 2, 2009 8:16 AM | Report abuse

Unlike Congress's behavior before voting on a major bill, I actually slogged through the over-the-top hit piece by Todd Purdum. What a bunch of regurgitated tripe--he gets paid to write this stuff? It strikes me as odd--and decidedly partisan--that Mr. Purdum passed on dipping his poison pen into a treasure trove of REAL scandals surrounding our CURRENT vice president, that gaffe-a-minute plagiarist Joe Biden. Or perhaps, he could dig for unflattering facts about power-hungry, fashion-challenged Michelle Obama? Asking France to open its shops on a Sunday just for her and her spoiled daughters is ugly Americanism unfurled. Where's her respect for the traditions of other cultures of the wwwoooorrrlllddd? Todd Purdum's article shows the Dems are desperately afraid of Michelle Obama. Your article fails big time, Todd.

Posted by: CTSKINSFAN2 | July 2, 2009 8:15 AM | Report abuse

tommariner continues the delusion that the reaction against Palin stems from fear. This is akin to runners lining up for a foot face, and when the GOP team shows up with their shoe laces tied together, they respond to the funny looks with "yeah, you're just afraid of me - oh, and I meant to do this, too!"

Posted by: hitpoints | July 2, 2009 8:09 AM | Report abuse

In one way keeping her ignorant face in the news is good for America. She reminds the informed and literate 75% of the nation just how ridiculous the republicon party really is.

Posted by: John1263 | July 2, 2009 8:08 AM | Report abuse

Yes Sarah Palin makes us all afraid. Not because we think she will be some great conservative leader, but because she will destroy our country. At the very least, Palin knows NOTHING about our own Constitution. She thinks the VP makes legislation. She thinks freedom of speech lets her fight with Dave Letterman. She agrees that the Constitution protects the right to privacy but Roe v. Wade was decided incorrectly. She appeals to those who are as clueless as her. The sad thing is if Sarah Palin were unattractive, she would be a nobody to the Republicans. She's all flash with no substance.

Posted by: scout_wife | July 2, 2009 8:07 AM | Report abuse

Regarding Sarah Palin...

It is interesting how time makes some of us forget:

1. Seeing Sarah on U-Tube telling the troops going to Iraq that they are on a mission that is from God (not George Bush).

2. Seeing Sarah on U-Tube as she accepts the blessing of Pastor Thomas Muthee, who asks Jesus to fund her political campaigns, and protect her from witchcraft.

3. When Trig was born, Palin wrote an e-mail letter to friends and relatives, describing the belated news of her pregnancy and detailing Trig’s condition; she wrote the e-mail not in her own name but in God’s, and signed it “Trig’s Creator, Your Heavenly Father.”

4. Spent $150,000 of political money on clothes for her and the family...

and much more...

How soon we forget...

Posted by: SCVoter | July 2, 2009 8:07 AM | Report abuse

Ugh, go away, you're making America dumb, Palin

Posted by: DannyP1 | July 2, 2009 8:05 AM | Report abuse

Puhleeez my dog could run this country better than Sarah Palin. If she can't answer a simple question like "What do you read?" then how is she going to deal with the complexities of the White House? I could care less what she reads, but I was hoping at least a newspaper. By the time she was asked the question a second time I would have been happy to hear "Glamour Magazine". For the love of God, you want to be the leader of the free world and you can't respond to a question as simple as that, asked not once but twice???? THEN you blame Couric (and I can't stand her) because YOU couldn't answer the qustion and became a laughing stock??? Ridiculous....

Posted by: BullyLover | July 2, 2009 8:05 AM | Report abuse

Malek hosted a foreign policy lunch for Palin and then commends her for being on top of issues that matter to her state, like energy? So I take it she did not show that she is on top of foreign policy?

I'm sure she has charmed many, but if Steele really means that the people she galvanizes are the "base" of the GOP, then the GOP is and continues to be in serious trouble.

Posted by: asoders22 | July 2, 2009 8:04 AM | Report abuse

Fred Malek: "She has been vastly underestimated as a result of one or two interviews," said Malek of Palin. "I have spent a lot of time around her and can state unequivocally she is smart, perceptive, curious, and absolutely on top of issues like energy which are pivotal to her role as Alaska's Governor. "
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Yes this is the same bill of goods sold on George W. who turned out to be one of the most vacant, irresponsible, NOT bright, criminals ever to hold public office in the US. Palin is in the Bush mold. We sure don;t need more of that.

Posted by: mtnmanvt | July 2, 2009 8:04 AM | Report abuse

Fortunately one does not need opinion pieces to make a judgement of Sara Palin. Her actions and words in the public forum provide more than enough evidence that she was not prepared to be the Vice President of the United States. There is simply is no need to listen to the pro and con arguments of people who worked with her. I prefer to talk about the judgement of McCain who brought us Palin and Joe the plumber and evidence, recently, that he would have continued a Bush like foreign policy. How was he chosen as the leader of the Republican Party and their candidate for President.

Posted by: ramellae | July 2, 2009 8:03 AM | Report abuse

It is extremely hard to believe the shallowness of the American public and Wapo.

Why anyone would support this plastic, corporate sellout is beyond belief.

Posted by: bovid4585 | July 2, 2009 7:58 AM | Report abuse

Seems the KoolAde-guzzling guttersnipes still can't get over their fear of Sarah Palin. The fact that she connects with the majority of Americans, that she is smart and effective, that she walks the walk, and that she isn't a sophomoronic, anti-American racist like the empty suit currently contaminating the Oval Office keeps them awake in their subterranean hidey-hole. Heh heh heh - - she's coming baaaaaack, obummernuts.

Posted by: segeny | July 2, 2009 7:56 AM | Report abuse

McCain and Steele both say that Palin has a bright future (if she wants it). Surely, that has Dems shaking in their shoes because as we all know there are few people with more political savvy than Michael Steele and John McCain.

Posted by: kemp13 | July 2, 2009 7:55 AM | Report abuse

Please, please do us all a favor and stop publicizing this egotistical idiot.

Enough is enough!

Posted by: abby0802 | July 2, 2009 7:53 AM | Report abuse

She can get her picture taken with all the foreign policy experts until doomsday but that does not mean she is learning anything from it. I beg the Republicans to please, please, please nominate her in 2012. A humiliating defeat will finally get her off the national stage.

Posted by: mark1161 | July 2, 2009 7:52 AM | Report abuse

"PEOPLE CAME TO THEIR SENSES AND ELECTED RONALD REAGAN" This written by someone who quickly forgot that Reagan Bush sold DRUGS to pay for an illegal war (Iran Contra) and the we have Bush Cheaney whose war (Iraq) was nothing more than an assassination of someone who didn't like dad. Now we criticize Obama for paying the dues for those fools and you give us Palin as an alternative? The republican party is a criminal endeavor begging for the enforcement of the RICO statutes.

Posted by: anOPINIONATEDsob | July 2, 2009 7:51 AM | Report abuse

Sarah is a Bush with lipstick!

Posted by: Sadaam | July 2, 2009 7:40 AM | Report abuse

"Let's not forget what earned Governor Palin the full fury of the Democratic Campaign operatives to this day -- fear."

ROFLMAO. Oh - wait... You are serious...

There was no fury, sweetie. Just incredulity that the Republicans could be that lame and stupid as to nominate an idiot such as Palin. That's the "deer in the headlights" look you refer to. We just couldn't believe you'd make it SO easy for us to defeat McCain.

Had he run with anyone else, he may have had a chance. You dolts fixate on her drawing in "the base," which is a very small bunch of fringe radicals. They'll follow anyone who shares their cheesy philosophies, and she panders to them. But moderate Republicans were put off by her because she lacks a brain and is not inclined to buy one.


Posted by: itsagreatday1 | July 2, 2009 7:39 AM | Report abuse

Water boy. Republican operatives buzzed you so you had to write a column. Sarah Palin should go make an exercise video and leave politics alone. She's a ding-a-ling, and that's not a word I use lightly. The Republicans were openly mocking women too dumb to know better by promoting her.

Posted by: SarahBB | July 2, 2009 7:37 AM | Report abuse

I think Chris has a crush on Sarah!

He's lost his objectivity.

Posted by: vigor | July 2, 2009 7:36 AM | Report abuse

Yes, Palin/Sanford 2012- the Dream Team

Posted by: AndrearKline | July 2, 2009 7:28 AM | Report abuse

Palin, Stay in Alaska and watch Russia for us, please...

Posted by: nkelly1 | July 2, 2009 7:26 AM | Report abuse

Remember: WE HAD TO GO THROUGH FOUR YEARS OF JIMMY CARTER BEFORE PEOPLE CAME TO THEIR SENSES AND ELECTED RONALD REAGAN.

Posted by: jakedog030 | July 2, 2009 7:24 AM | Report abuse

Who knew that the Post allowed bloggers to live in its basement and eat Cheetos?! CC's piece here on Palin is the antithesis of reporting. If he wants to serve as a conduit for Republicans who like Palin and disliked the Purdum piece, then at least be upfront about it. If he's trying (which is more likely) to "game" the game that is now Presidential politics, then he should be upfront about that too. I am so tired of "gossip as news" -- and that's all this is. Pathetic.

Posted by: lab-lady | July 2, 2009 7:20 AM | Report abuse

Wow, that's going way back if you need Fred Malek to support her. Did he conclude she is not Jewish?

Posted by: Bartolo1 | July 2, 2009 7:20 AM | Report abuse

A Palin rebound would be both nice and dangerous: the Republican vote might go to 20%. Would serve 'em right, so to speak, but that large a Democratic margin would invite its own problems.

Posted by: frodot | July 2, 2009 7:16 AM | Report abuse

Let's not forget what earned Governor Palin the full fury of the Democratic Campaign operatives to this day -- fear. When she stepped onto that Convention stage and made her "I have a real job" speech, the Democratic handlers froze like deer in the headlights. An articulate, all-American leader with executive experience and youth who could out "change" the Democratic candidate.

Every resource available -- from community activists to network news anchors and comedy shows went into full attack mode. It worked. And the McCain campaign leaders found themselves in charge of the least interviewed of the two candidates did the insiders version of attack mode -- they set up Palin. They purposely arranged tough interviews with campaign trail-hardened anchors -- and forgot to mention the trick questions that every candidate had learned after two years of making mistakes in front of three people in the heartland.

And now those cowardly turncoats are showing their colors with the morals of Joe Jackson promoting his record label during an interview after his son's death.

Let's hope the article's "Rebound" theme is right because we need her political and executive skills as much as we have needed President's Obama's bold leadership to shake things up. Soon we will need someone who can manage the rebuilding the new America that is greener and more even. After it is taken apart, it will need an executive to put back the pieces.

Let's just hope she doesn't have a friend in Argentina.

Posted by: tommariner | July 2, 2009 7:16 AM | Report abuse

Michael Steele keeps talking about "galvanizing the base" in the Republican Party. What Mr. Steele, and others in the GOP, don't seem to realize is that the far-right wing of the Republican base has become so "exclusive," that by 2012, the Republican base will only consist of the members of the Wasilla Evangelical Fundamentalist Church, a witch doctor and 8 former members of a Canadian hockey team!

Posted by: miesque | July 2, 2009 7:12 AM | Report abuse

The 2012 GOP nomination is up for grabs. The most likely candidate, Romney, has to sit on the shelf quietly or risk a 3 ½ year campaign that runs out of steam just when it needs to peak. Palin has to keep running the flag up the pole to see if anyone is still saluting (if we keep being told to take her seriously maybe we will – this chanted lying has worked for the GOP in the past). And, in order to appear prescient 3 years from now, CC has to profile every Republican in elected office above PTA chairman, lest s/he end up being nominated.

In the meantime, we will be treated to breathlessly excited articles about non-entities.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | July 2, 2009 6:53 AM | Report abuse

You had me with your headline, then I read your article. Nothing to see here. No rebound at all.

You could title your next article, "Venezuela attacks America," then talk about how Hugo Chavez attacks the character of Americans (which he does). You'd get plenty of hits. Then, title your next article, "FDA Approves Drug Use," and talk about how Asprin was made legal. Then, title another article, "Men are Free to Love Boys," and talk about how fathers should drop the whole emotionless Dad act and tell their sons they love them. This list goes on and on.

Posted by: Grant_x | July 2, 2009 6:53 AM | Report abuse

What an annoying blather you are, Chris -- a Palin come back because a couple of GOP people don't like the very good, truthful article about her? (you've never written such an insightful piece -- you're just good with making up absurd headlines). Fact is, Palin is finished. She will be pushed out by the big boys starting very soon -- because if she is not, once she opens her mouth, she make the GOP look even more foolish than it already does. Why, didn't you comment on the truthfulness of the Palin article instead of the very weak, silly people (Steel?) you thought to give credibility to as spokespeople in your silly commentary.


Posted by: lrb100 | July 2, 2009 6:42 AM | Report abuse

The problem for the GOP is, it's basically impossible to take seriously anyone who takes Palin seriously. She herself is so obviously beyond the pale that anyone supporting her appears truly delusional.

That Palin can remain a serious figure in the GOP world just shows what a mess they're in.

Posted by: bigbrother1 | July 2, 2009 6:26 AM | Report abuse

Between Al Franken and Palin this should be a very funny year for politics. Franken on purpose, Palin because she opens her mouth.

Posted by: PatrickNYC1 | July 2, 2009 6:13 AM | Report abuse

Between Al Franken and Palin this should be a very funny year for politics. Franken on purpose, Palin because she opens her mouth.

Posted by: PatrickNYC1 | July 2, 2009 6:13 AM | Report abuse

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