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Sarah Palin and the first 2012 Republican proving ground

1. Former Alaska governor Sarah Palin's decision to attend -- and speak at -- the Southern Republican Leadership Conference in New Orleans in April transforms that event into the first legitimate cattle-call of the 2012 Republican presidential sweepstakes. Palin announced late Thursday that she would attend SRLC, joining Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal and former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee as announced speakers. Interestingly, Palin also announced on Thursday that she would not be speaking at CPAC, a gathering of conservatives in Washington in mid February -- a decision, according to those familiar with her thinking, due at least in part to the fact that the John Birch Society is one of the sponsors. The decision to attend SRLC but not CPAC -- love those acronyms! -- seems to be a rare instance of Palin refusing to play to type, bucking the grassroots for a more establishment-oriented event. She still has much work to do in courting that establishment, however, as made clear by a new National Journal "Insiders" poll that more than 62 percent of the Republican professional political class said that former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney was going to be their party's nominee in 2012. Romney was followed by Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, South Dakota Sen. John Thune and Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour in the voting. Palin tied for fifth with Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels who has said repeatedly he is not running.

2. After a week focused almost exclusively on how his administration is handling the attempted Christmas Day terror attack, President Obama will announce today that more money from the economic stimulus bill will be awarded in an effort to create clean energy manufacturing jobs. White House sources suggest that Obama's announcement is the start of a pivot to the economy with a series of economic-focused events on his calendar next week. The White House had long planned to turn its focus to the economy and job creation in 2010 but the Christmas Day attack has complicated those plans somewhat. Still, with every national poll making clear that the economy and not terrorism is the most important issue for voters, you can expect the president to spend a considerable amount of time assuaging fears and touting the positive effects of the policies he and his administration have put in place. Look to the state of the union speech -- either late this month or early next -- as an official marker for the economy pivot.

3. House Republicans will get a recruiting boost today when former representative Jim Gerlach (R), who dropped out of the Pennsylvania governor's race on Thursday, announces that he is running for his old seat. The Gerlach announcement, expected around noon, according to a source familiar with the congressman's plans, will roil the race for his 6th district. A number of Republicans are already in the race including wealthy businessman Steven Welch, who switched from the 7th district race at the urging of national Republicans, and state Rep. Curt Schroder. It remains to be seen whether Gerlach is able to clear the field for himself but he is likely to enjoy support from national Republicans who view him as their best bet to hold the swing suburban Philadelphia seat. Gerlach has held the 6th district since 2002, beating back a series of serious Democratic challenges. The Democratic establishment has rallied behind former Philadelphia Inquirer editorial board member Doug Pike but Iraq war veteran Manan Trivedi is also in the race. ALSO READ: Our piece in today's Post on Republican recruiting successes heading into the midterms.

4. The American Future Fund, a leading conservative outside group, is going up with ads in the Massachusetts Senate special election bashing state Attorney General Martha Coakley (D) on taxes. "Call Martha Coakley and tell her we can't afford more taxes," urges the ad's narrator. The commercial, which will cost the group $400,000 for a five-day statewide buy, is the first of several planned ads hitting Coakley in advance of her Jan. 19 special election race against state Sen. Scott Brown, according to a source familiar with AFF's strategy. The ad buy is welcome news for Brown who has been drastically outraised by Coakley and will be outspent badly on television in the closing days of the campaign. The AFF ads land as the race has begun to draw some national attention for the fact that some within the GOP believe Brown might be able to win. The Cook Political Report changed their rating on the race from "solid Democrat" to "lean Democrat" on Thursday and the New York Times penned a story with the headline: "In Massachusetts, Anxiety for Favored Democrat." As we wrote earlier in the week, there seems to be general consensus that Brown has closed the gap somewhat of late but that it is hard to see how he gets to 50 percent in a state as solidly blue as Massachusetts. Margin may matter here; Republicans will almost certainly declare victory if Brown loses by single digits.

5. The Fix chats live today from 11 a.m. to noon about one of the craziest weeks in politics that we can remember. You can submit questions in advance or just lob your queries at us in real time.

By Chris Cillizza  |  January 8, 2010; 6:02 AM ET
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Comments

The sad thing is that most people knew why Palin was picked. Give the woman a break. She is attractive and appeals to conservatives. Shame on those that pushed her on to the stage. Most people would jump at that opportunity and now they have to deal with it. They should have said a long time ago that she was not ready. And now there seems to be some movement on confirming that. Bad move. (Sure she could have said that she wasn't ready- but would you?)

Posted by: deeren | January 11, 2010 12:08 PM | Report abuse

If Sarah Palin was Black and Lesbian and Muslim, I could take her serious, but
honestly, white, christian, woman is so
so yesteryear.

Posted by: simonsays1 | January 11, 2010 8:34 AM | Report abuse

das right! duh mayuh uh Wasilla, uh huh, now lookie heah.

duh Thrillah from Wasilla!

even Dick Cheney no bettah den hunt wit dat k*nt!

wrote a song bout it! like a heah it go...

Posted by: SofaKingCool2009 | January 10, 2010 8:46 PM | Report abuse

georgiarat:

I was asking "MarkHarrisLtd" (the post right below mine, which I was quoting from) that question. I don't think that Reagan or Bush were dumb. Please no friendly fire.

Posted by: JakeD | January 10, 2010 10:21 AM | Report abuse

I think all of you "Palin-bashers" should look at her record as Mayor of Wasilla and the Governor of the State of Alaska before you start jacking your jaws! I bet none of you could accomplish the things this woman has done (and raise 5 kids to boot). I bet none of you even take the time to get REAL facts before you start bashing people. You just listen to your "leaders" and do what they tell you to do. That's the reason our country is in the sorry state it is today (ESPECIALLY with the current administration in Washington, D.C.). Obummer!!!

Posted by: CodeoftheWest | January 10, 2010 12:09 AM | Report abuse

Jake D:
Do you think that Reagan / GWB had the mental capacity to be President?
_________________
Hate to break it to you Jake but first Bush had better grades at Yale than Kerry once they were finally leaked after the election. Secondly, Obama without a teleprompter is about a 8th grader in his ability to speak and act intelligently. He has never accomplished anything except misleading people to get elected at whatever level. He has never done real work in his life including as President. The dumbest and the overeducated are Democrats. The dumb because they are told what to do and the overeducated because they are elites like yourself probably who think they know best. The people who make this country work are Conservatives and independents. Why? Well you are not capable of relating to common sense.

Posted by: georgiarat | January 9, 2010 7:48 PM | Report abuse

"... because she is [SIC] responds like a failed elementary school student ..."?

Do you think that Reagan / GWB had the mental capacity to be President?

Posted by: JakeD | January 9, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is not only old news but she is low on the support list according to the latest poll of 109 Republican Party leaders. She is a mental mess. A train wreck. Anybody that connects to her train of warped thought is going to crash because she is responds like a failed elementary school student, and does not have the mental capacity to be a Girl Scout leader. I would not want her to teach my children. I don’t want a fool to run a government job. Kick her out of the Republican Party.

Posted by: MarkHarrisLtd | January 9, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

This is all you have to know about Obama:


The investigators were questioning the Detroit Bomber - and he was talking.


The Detroit Bomber was telling us about Al Queda in Yemen and the planning of future terrorist plots.


Obama decided to send the bomber a lawyer, who immediately tells the terrorist to "remain silent."

The terrorist stopped talking - and who knows what intelligence information was lost.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | January 9, 2010 8:22 AM | Report abuse

Looking more and more like the whole Palin thing is finally winding down. GOP leaders no longer talk about her running in 2012, people who once supported her no longer mention her, only the true blue crazies still nurture hope she has a future in national politics.

Thanks a lot for that sicko encore of the Bush years, McCain, may you be remembered for that slick move.

Now come the desperate grasps for attention, the over the top lies, the backbiting, the screaming.

Not even CC is hyperventilating about her anymore.

Posted by: Noacoler | January 9, 2010 1:11 AM | Report abuse

Let me know if anyone else wants to discuss Steve Schmidt -- it's not his book, but two reporters who are on 60 Minutes this Sunday -- who admits that the Obama-Biden victory would have been even more lopsided without Palin on the Republican ticket.

Posted by: JakeD | January 9, 2010 12:35 AM | Report abuse

Looks like Steve Schmidt has a book out about Palin and the campaign, the timing suggests payback for her whining about him in her with-book.  It was on all the TVs at my gym.  Lots of pictures of her and Biden at their debate, the text on the screen mentioning emergency last-minute meetings and strategy shifts because not only was she unready, she was doing nothing to prepare.

And this is the woman that some unmentionable people want to hand the nuclear triggers over to .. too unfocused and lazy to prepare for a •nationally televised debate•.

The mind reels.

Posted by: Noacoler | January 9, 2010 12:22 AM | Report abuse

FYI: my answers would be "yes" for all parts of that question : )

Posted by: JakeD | January 8, 2010 7:54 PM | Report abuse

It would be an interesting Gallup Poll question:

1(a) Did you vote in the 2008 Presidential Election?

(b) Knowing everything you know now, would you have voted for [ROTATE ORDER]:

1) McCain-Palin?

2) McCain-Lieberman?

3) McCain-Romney?

4) Ronald-McDonald?

Posted by: JakeD | January 8, 2010 7:28 PM | Report abuse

I have attempted several times to get some reasonable responses to the terrorism questions before the country right now.


Criticism of Obama at this point is very important - and with the changing nature of Obama's positions - extremely correct.


Few of the posters here have even tried to defend Obama - which indicates that you have little confidence in your great Obama on these issues.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | January 8, 2010 7:27 PM | Report abuse

McCain should have swallowed his personal dislike for Romney and put him on the ticket. Then when the economic crisis hit, McCain could have come up with an economic plan and stated he had an economic-business expert on the ticket. McCain would have had a much better chance.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | January 8, 2010 7:23 PM | Report abuse

37th:

Yes.

Here's some interesting Palin news too. Even her arch-enemy, Steve Schmidt, admits that the Obama-Biden victory would have been even more lopsided without her on the Republican ticket. He has confirmed that JOE LIEBERMAN was, in fact, McCain's choice for VP up until only a few days before the Republican Convention.

Posted by: JakeD | January 8, 2010 7:08 PM | Report abuse

Who is the chain of succession?


Biden, Pelosi, Byrd ? and then is it Hillary?


Is that right ????

Posted by: 37thand0street | January 8, 2010 6:39 PM | Report abuse

That's a very good point (I definitely don't want ANYTHING to happen to Acting President Biden in the meantime ; )

Posted by: JakeD
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I wouldn't either. BTW -The whole chain of succession is the scariest in the nation's history, However, I choose to not live in fear.

Posted by: leapin | January 8, 2010 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Rubber doorstops are more reliable and cheaper too

Posted by: Noacoler | January 8, 2010 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Sewers' backin' up.

Posted by: JRM2 | January 8, 2010 6:14 PM | Report abuse

CHRIS CILLIZZA:

more Obama birth certificate crap

Posted by: Noacoler | January 8, 2010 6:11 PM | Report abuse

leapin:

That's a very good point (I definitely don't want ANYTHING to happen to Acting President Biden in the meantime ; )

Posted by: JakeD | January 8, 2010 6:06 PM | Report abuse

You can deal in perception, I prefer to deal in facts.

Posted by: JRM2 | January 8, 2010 6:06 PM | Report abuse

"Back on topic #1: isn't it time for the highest glass ceiling in the world to be broken?

Posted by: JakeD"
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When we have a qualified candidate.

Posted by: JRM2 | January 8, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Back on topic #1: isn't it time for the highest glass ceiling in the world to be broken?

Posted by: JakeD
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Yes, at the first opportunity in 2012.

Posted by: leapin | January 8, 2010 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Back on topic #1: isn't it time for the highest glass ceiling in the world to be broken?

Posted by: JakeD | January 8, 2010 5:54 PM | Report abuse

You guys should get a room.

Posted by: Noacoler | January 8, 2010 5:46 PM | Report abuse

It's not about arcane Illinois procedure. It is perception
Posted by: Moonbat
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So right. I don’t care about IL. We are just trying to keep their thugs out of my state. I hear they invaded all the way DC.
I'm monitoring for Rham and Rodaxel crossings.

Posted by: leapin | January 8, 2010 5:38 PM | Report abuse

It's not about arcane Illinois procedure. It is perception

remember al gore invented the Internet. He loved to magnify his accomplishments.

Remember Kerry the war hero. After a six month tour. He was a phony.

Now we have Barry the indecisive ditherer. The facts only point in the direction of the conclusion. He is branded now. Weak and feckless. Anything that adds to this is in. All else discarded. It is simple human bias.

Clinton was a ladies man. Bush a cowboy.

Like it or not, Barry is known to the world for his inability to choose a or b.

Posted by: Moonbat | January 8, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Is that all you got leapin?, drudge up some meme from 2007?

Posted by: JRM2
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His Sec of State said the same thing. Fortunately he has gone on to become Barry Lite Truman and instead of “present” the buck now stops with him as its declining value indicates.

Posted by: leapin | January 8, 2010 5:26 PM | Report abuse

JRM2, I think you are correct about Illinois Senate Procedure. Further, I believe a "Present" vote counts the voter in the quorum, but against the measure. It is the voting equivalent of "No". Thus its only purpose is to show a willingness to revisit the measure if it is brought to the floor in a modified form.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | January 8, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

"Well, actually, there was the decision to go with a wood or an iron on the 17th hole.
Posted by: leapin | January 8, 2010 4:46 PM "
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I take it this is the kind of golf you want out of a President.
'Now watch this drive"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3p9y_OEAdc

Posted by: JRM2 | January 8, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

I think one of Obama's problems with the question of "war" is that Obama sought to pursue a policy on the war, but never explained to the nation what he was doing or why he was doing it.


Obama told the Pentagon to stop using the phraise "war on terror" in its paperwork.


However, Obama never told the nation exactly what that meant - Obama never explained to the country the changes in the war he wanted to make - and Obama never explained what he was going to do in the war going forward.

Even the terrorist trials in New York - we do NOT have a speech from Obama but some statements from the Attorney General.


When the Thompson facility question came out, all we have is leaked documents - not actual statements from Obama explaining what he wants to do with all the terrorist - how many are going to Illinois - how many are getting released.

We get the impression that Obama is doing everything in a way so that no one notices.


Obama may think this is a good way to govern, but it is not. The confusion only hurts Obama and the democrats - people have to prepare for the worst.


It is also against Obama's commitment to transparency.


How would Obama measure up to the standards he put up during his campaign ? Pretty poorly.


.

Posted by: 37thand0street | January 8, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

So this blog is going along just fine with some intelligent discourse then it turns into a sewer that is backing up when moonbat/zouk and leapin show up.

Posted by: JRM2 | January 8, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

I understand Barry is forming a cabinet level office of apology. This will free up some time to play a little more golf.

Posted by: Moonbat | January 8, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

"How many times did she vote "present" compared to BHO?

Posted by: leapin | J"
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Your ignorance of illinois politics is showing. First, he voted "present" probably what?, 140 times? out of over 3000 votes, a very small fraction. BTW: McCain set the record for not showing up to vote in 2008.

Voting "present" in the Illinois state senate is also a method commonly used to effectively say: "Hey, we need to take a closer look at this legislation"

Is that all you got leapin?, drudge up some meme from 2007?

Posted by: JRM2 | January 8, 2010 5:13 PM | Report abuse

GOP Insiders Sour On Palin


Posted by: graybeard_58
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Many are also souring on Barrack Obama.

Posted by: leapin | January 8, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

And those 109 GOP leaders backed the "Maverick" last time around, right?

Posted by: JakeD | January 8, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

GOP Insiders Sour On Palin

In a National Journal survey of 109 Republican "party leaders, political professionals and pundits", not a single one deemed Sarah Palin to be the most likely Republican nominee.

http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal.com/archives/2010/01/gop_insiders_so.php

Posted by: graybeard_58 | January 8, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

quite an experience to live in fear, isn't it? That's what it is to be a slave"
-- Roy Batty

man up, dude

Posted by: Noacoler
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Is this a reference to Scary Reid?

Posted by: leapin | January 8, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

I think voting Present was the high point of his decision making.

Posted by: Moonbat
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Well, actually, there was the decision to go with a wood or an iron on the 17th hole.

Posted by: leapin | January 8, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

How so - I didn't say anything about torture. I just stated some of the tenets of radical Islam.

==

"quite an experience to live in fear, isn't it? That's what it is to be a slave"
-- Roy Batty

man up, dude

Posted by: Noacoler | January 8, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Barry isn't even present anymore. The health care bill was entirely Reid and pelosi. Barry still doesn't even know what's in it.

Cap and trade has dissappeared down a rat hole.

When the nation was attacked on Christmas day, Barry went missing for three days.

I think voting Present was the high point of his decision making.

Posted by: Moonbat | January 8, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

'How many times did she vote "present" compared to BHO?'

You have to actually be 'present' to vote 'present.' The whole story of Sarah palin's political career is not showing up.

Posted by: drindl
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Ok Barry - You get a self-esteem attendance sticker.

Posted by: leapin | January 8, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Looks like "suicide pact" is the current phrase of the day for the Cletuses.

Posted by: Noacoler | January 8, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

The buck stops with me says Barry.

Unless the topic is terror, economics or health care. Then send it over to George bush.

Finger pointing will only be selectively permitted.

Posted by: Moonbat | January 8, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

'How many times did she vote "present" compared to BHO?'

You have to actually be 'present' to vote 'present.' The whole story of Sarah palin's political career is not showing up.

Posted by: drindl | January 8, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Our survival as a nation is not threatened by AQ, but it is threatened by people with views like yours.

Posted by: Noacoler
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How so - I didn't say anything about torture. I just stated some of the tenets of radical Islam.

I think our survival as a nation is not so much threatened by AQ but by the Axis of Statism - BHO, Pelosi and Reid.

Posted by: leapin | January 8, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

When you refer to AQs playbook are you talking about closing Gitmo. It seems we are doing that to please them. The official reason being they use it as propoganda and recruiting. So if only we eliminate everything they don't like, all will be right in the world. According to the apologists and appeasers anyway.

I guess we are all not smart enough to march into a suicide pact while singing our praises, like liberals.

Posted by: Moonbat | January 8, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

But G&T, they only subscribe to the laws of radical Islam - kill infidels and establish Islamic rule. And ..use the infidels laws to destroy them.

==

Leaving aside the cartoonish simplicity for a moment, what exactly do you think is the benefit from allowing a bunch of fugitives to reduce the USA to a mob?  If we lower ourselves to torture and we allow ourselves to be manipulated into following AQs playbook, what exactly are we striving to preserve?

Even granting for the sake of argument that lawless brutality improves our chances, which I don't believe at all, we will have won a battle or two but lost the essential war.  Someone did a post yesterday that ended with a quote from de Tocqueville .. I can't do a better job than he did so why don't you track it down and read it.

Our survival as a nation is not threatened by AQ, but it is threatened by people with views like yours.

Posted by: Noacoler | January 8, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Love that thin resume!! Totally mavericky!

Posted by: Noacoler
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How many times did she vote "present" compared to BHO?

Posted by: leapin | January 8, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

I'm baaaack!!!!

Posted by: JakeD | January 8, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Our local laws do not apply to foreign battlefields nor to non uniformed enemy agents (previously known as spies and hanged).

So indeed we agree. All us citizens doing crimes on us soil should head to court. Did you have some other notion?

Why wasn't Goering brought to NY for trial. Nwvermind. I think I know. That was before liberals became daft.

Posted by: Moonbat | January 8, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

another no-show...does this woman show up for anything?

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only long enough to quit.

You know, to be a more effective leader.

Only dead fish go with the flow.

Love that thin resume!! Totally mavericky!

Posted by: Noacoler | January 8, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

We're a nation of laws, not of screaming teabagger mobs.

Don't like it? Move to free-market Somalia.

Posted by: Noacoler
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But G&T, they only subscribe to the laws of radical Islam - kill infidels and establish Islamic rule. And ..use the infidels laws to destroy them.

Posted by: leapin | January 8, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

We're a nation of laws, not of screaming teabagger mobs.

Don't like it? Move to free-market Somalia.

Posted by: Noacoler | January 8, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Judge tosses out most evidence on Gitmo detainee. His confessions were coerced. The liberal suicide pact moves forward. Tally ho.

Posted by: Moonbat | January 8, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Has Barry Lite Truman, "The Buck Stops Here", added to his 7 lies today?

Posted by: leapin | January 8, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

The JBS is definitely a far-right group, but some of the things they've discussed in the past and now have a grain - or more than a grain - of truth. They've also been the targets of misinformation. For instance, some of the lies RMaddow told about them are discussed here:

http://peekURL.com/z3234a1

Meanwhile, Palin thinks it's perfectly OK to speak to those who stand on street corners waving loopy signs and go to public meetings and act like children:

http://24ahead.com/s/tea-parties

Posted by: LonewackoDotCom | January 8, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

another no-show...does this woman show up for anything?
'
'Sarah Palin has declined an offer to speak at CPAC, for the second year in a row. Why, exactly?

Dave Weigel wondered if it had to do with CPAC not paying guests any speaking fees or travel expenses, compared to Palin's lavish fees from the Tea Party convention.'

Posted by: drindl | January 8, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

GOP Senate Candidate Rep. Mike Castle (R-DE) Takes Credit For Over $5 Million In Stimulus Funds He Voted To Kill

Washington | January 7, 2010 – Delaware Congressman Mike Castle announced today that $5,230,610 has been awarded to the State to assist families and individuals in need. [...] “As we face the coldest season of the year, it is imperative we provide those programs serving Delaware’s most disadvantaged families and individuals with the resources necessary to house, feed, and protect those in desperate need,” said Rep. Castle. “These grants, totaling more than $5 million, will help the invaluable organizations and programs which are working to help the homeless, hungry, and those facing economic hardship throughout the State.”

– The Castle release announces $4,735,313 from the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development’s (HUD) Continuum of Care program. According to the HUD website, the Continuum of Care initiative is enabled through $1.5 billion in money authorized by the stimulus.

– The Castle release announces $495,297 to Delaware’s Emergency Food and Shelter Program through the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA). According to Grants.gov, the FEMA Emergency Food and Shelter Program is enabled by $100 million in funding through the stimulus.

Posted by: graybeard_58 | January 8, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Moonbat, try getting out more....

Dick Lugar: Cheney's Criticism Of Obama 'Unfair'

Richard Lugar, the top Republican on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, defended President Barack Obama’s handling of recent terrorism threats, taking issue with former Vice President Dick Cheney’s criticism.

“It’s unfair,” Lugar said in an interview for Bloomberg Television’s “Political Capital with Al Hunt,” airing this weekend. “I think the president is focused.”

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aFESfOEBmLS0

Eric Cantor (R-VA): It's Not Fair To Blame Obama For Job Losses

In a statement issued earlier today, Cantor said, "It's not fair to blame any one person or political party for all job losses." He also posted the message on his Twitter.

http://twitter.com/GOPWhip/status/7524093718

Posted by: graybeard_58 | January 8, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Code Orange! Time to activate Plan D-05...

Posted by: drindl | January 8, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

JRM2: no time, no time. Please switch your helmet radio to encrypted channel 5 and log in. Code Radagast.

Posted by: Noacoler | January 8, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

It is certainly impressive that the new present ident is able
to mess up so many things simultaneously. The economy, cap and trade, foreign policy, war on jihad, health care, transparency, new politics, cspan promises, unemployment, graft and bribes, fundraising and party building.

All a mess since the One started juggling ineptitude and incompetence.

Posted by: Moonbat | January 8, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

-- love those acronyms! --

==

At the risk of sounding curmudgeonly I would like to see a little more sobriety and a little less of this sort of enthusiasm.  I really don't have a lot of use for this perky, chirpy, cheerful, happy-fun stuff.  I'm glad you enjoy your work, so do I, and we're both very lucky in that regard, but these "love it!" asides, along with the family stuff, the Bob Dylan and the baseball, are frankly off-putting.  When I was getting your tweets I found myself getting extra monthly charges for data usage, just to read about whatever track you were listening to or whatever TV show you were watching.

And I don't see what about a series of capital letters could inspire affection.

Don't expect a lot of agreement on this, but that's my view.

Posted by: Noacoler | January 8, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Shrink, Noacoler, meet me at my cubicle so we can plot our next strategy.

Posted by: JRM2 | January 8, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Careful Noacoler, I think he's getting suspicious.

Posted by: JRM2 | January 8, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Brown decries conservative group's anti-Coakley ad

conservative group is joining Republican Scott Brown in his effort to defeat Democrat Martha Coakley and her bid to succeed the late Sen. Edward Kennedy of Massachusetts, although Brown says he opposes the outside intervention.

The Iowa-based American Future Fund plans to spend $400,000 over five days airing a television ad comparing the two major-party candidates on the issue of taxes. The ad started airing in Boston on Thursday night.

It highlights Brown's pledge to oppose tax increases and Coakley's recent comment that the country needs "to get taxes up." She was referring to tax collections from increased employment, and her aides immediately branded the commercial as an attack ad.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2010/01/07/conservative_group_launches_anti_coakley_ad/

Posted by: graybeard_58 | January 8, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

It is telling that Obama wants to "change the subject to the economy."

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Yeah, because by now most people are worried about things that matter, like their jobs, and turning attention away from things that don't matter, like a pack of disgruntled international criminals who burn off their own genitals in an airplane seat.

YMMV.  But then you seem preoccupied, and I really need to wonder what kind of work you're capable of when you believe with such conviction that an intelligent and capable man can only work at one thing at a time.

Posted by: Noacoler | January 8, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

It is stunning he couldn't dispatch this problem between putts.

Posted by: Moonbat | January 8, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

I still would like to know what was so "stunning" about the terrorism report released yesterday.

We still have no answer for that.


Was it that the administration did not believe that Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula was 'OPERATIONAL' ???

It is telling that Obama wants to "change the subject to the economy."

Interesting, since Obama has been ignoring the economy to focus on the health care bill.

So, now they are negotiating the health care bill behind closed doors, Obama doesn't want anyone to think about that lack of transparency - now its all about the economy.

Anyone feel like Obama is playing three card monty ??


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Posted by: 37thand0street | January 8, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

graybeard_58

wow look at those shoulder pads
when was that, 1989?

Posted by: shrink2 | January 8, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

37th writes:

"Chris is on Andrea Mitchell right now."

Does Greenspan know?

Posted by: mnteng | January 8, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Here's that picture of Palin happily having her picture taken while reading the John Birch Society's article on "Con-Con".

http://bagnewsnotes.typepad.com/bagnews/images/Palin%20Con-Con.jpg

Posted by: graybeard_58 | January 8, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

The new census form offers three choices now for one race

black, African American or Negro

I am not sure the distinction

I presume Charlize Theron is an African American?

Posted by: Moonbat | January 8, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

it is hard to see how he gets to 50 percent in a state as solidly blue as Massachusetts. Margin may matter here; Republicans will almost certainly declare victory if Brown loses by single digits.

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Dickens couldn't make this stuff up.  Kafka couldn't make this stuff up.

Astoundingly, Republicans are using Doug Hoffman's loss in an all but secure GOP district as an example of how to win elections.  Simply amazing that self-delusion could have so much energy.  As long as Republicans are incapable of learning from their failures Democrats will have the upper hand.

Raising a glass to the reality-studying community...

Posted by: Noacoler | January 8, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

I keep on thinking that there are 4 or 5 people here in the same room - all talking about how they will attack the other posters.

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I think you should get away from the Internet altogether, at least away from political forums.  If you're taking this crap as seriously as this then you're just hurting yourself.  The idea that your political opponents are strategizing and organizing against you is just plain paranoid and out of reality.

GET a GRIP.

Posted by: Noacoler | January 8, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Thanks shrink, I think you threw him off our scent.

Posted by: JRM2 | January 8, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse

On behalf of progressives, decent and compassionate people, lovers of truth and democracy and fairness, honesty, and justice, I would like to thank Sarah Palin for all the work she is doing on our behalf, twisting the knife in the heart of the gasping body of the Republican Party and accelerating its decline.

Thanks, Barbie!

Posted by: Noacoler | January 8, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse

"I keep on thinking that there are 4 or 5 people here in the same room - all talking about how they will attack the other posters."

I promise you this is not true. It is true however, that several people here know each other to the extent that they communicate with each other away from this page. But at no time have those communications involved tormenting, persecuting, heckling, harassing or otherwise attacking people posting here. In fact, people who communicate away from this page do so precisely to avoid the pernicious toxins of 21st century blog culture.

You are safe 37th, no one is conspiring against you.

But how do I know this? "If I told you, I'd have to kill you."*

*This is a joke line.

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Posted by: shrink2 | January 8, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

margaretmeyers suggests
"I wonder if the people of Minnesota could buy-out his contract, then he could purue his interests and Minnesota could find a governor who wants to govern."


I'd pay for that. As long as the successor were someone other than Lt Gov Molnau.

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Posted by: bsimon1 | January 8, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

I keep on thinking that there are 4 or 5 people here in the same room - all talking about how they will attack the other posters.


I'm thinking they change their screen names too.

Chris is on Andrea Mitchell right now.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | January 8, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

It's interesting how much the rightwingers on here hate military people. Funny how much bloodlust they have for war, would never consider serving themselves and despise those who do. Behold the D*ckless Chickenhawk.

Posted by: drindl | January 8, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

He loves it for its fault, beeker. The whole gist of the CFG and its teabagger allies is a wholesale rejection of the social contract, civilization and society, to be replaced with social darwinism and ruthless classism -- a return to a time when there was no middle class, the poor starved and the rich got richer off the backs of the serfs.

Posted by: drindl | January 8, 2010 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Can you imagine someone walking into a room full of people and then telling everyone constantly for hours how much he hates them, and everyone wants him to leave, but he won't?

That's the very definition of sociopathy.

Posted by: drindl | January 8, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

I dunno about that, Drindle. My time there was mostly uneventful compared to most people. And to be honest, the parts that would be interesting, I'm not sure I really want to discuss.
It's nothing personal. It's just that those experiences are mine and though others have experienced far worse, I'd rather not put my baggage on anyone else.

Posted by: elijah24 | January 8, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Here's Newt's 'ideas' about healthcare -- change the word:

Newt Gingrich is revising his advice to Republicans for their fall campaign lines to be that they would vote to "repeal" the health care bill, saying now they should use the world "replace."

We've been reporting on that campaign line, which Gingrich has been championing for several weeks.

In a brief stop in Atlanta this week, Gingrich said Republicans have ideas on health care, and that at least "400" pages of the nearly 4,000 pages in the Democrats' health care bill "have to be good."

Still, the line should be scrap it, Gingrich said.

"I think every Republican candidate in the country is going to say that they want to replace the bill with something better," Gingrich said, according to The Georgia Report (sub. req.). "I don't think they use the word 'repeal,' they use the word 'replace.'"

LOL. in other words, 'LIE.'

Posted by: drindl | January 8, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

drindl
As Time’s Kevin O’Leary wrote, Prop. 13 lies “at the root of California’s misery,” leaving it no choice but to slash its budget during the economic downturn. -
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I could not agree more but you have add more like direct democracy is the primary problem as well as the state had programs to help people and the local governments when it passed back in the 1980. The state legislature has been jerry rigging the budget for years without actually solving it. Arnold is simply passing the buck here because he is term limited leaving it to the next person to solve it.
Ironically Colorado had a TABOR type law(Taxpayer Bill of Rights) in place and that has crippled the state's ability to plan when dealing with growth an other things. Grover Norquist loved it despite its fault.

Posted by: beeker25 | January 8, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Was the guys name chris fox?

Posted by: Moonbat | January 8, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Your story reminds us of the level of intellect required to be a liberal. Most of the posters here are essentially on the same level.

Posted by: Moonbat | January 8, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Elijah

these Barry sychophants must be really annoying you.

Maybe we could do another big renaming- a liberal specialty.

From now on democrats will be called Apologists.

Posted by: Moonbat | January 8, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

How about the Khost bombing which killed 7 CIA officers - congratulate Obama for that too ??

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First of all the double agent (recruited by an Jordianian agent) came forward on a tip that the CIA was looking for, actually desperate for . It's been said that it has been a long time getting information because they have trouble infiltrating them due to the nature of how they work. Ironically the CIA person in charge was a Al Queda expert and was part of the Bin Ladin search. The CIA personnels violated several rules of engagement with the primary duty is to make sure that the person does not harm them when providing information (he was not searched when he came on the base)as they have been using suicide bombers- another terror tactic.

What you conveniently left out was the fact that these groups know when someone is that anxious to join them, it is a possibility that it could be somebody who could out them so they can be damaged or killed. It is not same thing we do here in USA when the police detectives can infiltrate an organization by joining it so they can arrest them for criminal activities within a short time.
Obama has already stated several times that "we are at war" and nothing more than that.

Posted by: beeker25 | January 8, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

agreed, elijah. i would like to see more of your stories and hear more about your time Over There.

Posted by: drindl | January 8, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Dude, I spit pepsi across the room, I was laughing so hard. He coudnt pronounce the name of President Obama, and couldnt remember the name of President Bush, but he would run into the common area yelling "that guy is on" And I always knew which one he meant by whether he was smiling or scowling. We weren't supposed to pick favorites, but it's hard not to sometimes.

Posted by: elijah24 | January 8, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse

"Me: Really? Do you really think he thought there were 57 states? Could it be that there were 57 primary/caucus's, 51 of which were states including one of each for TX, and he accidentally misspoke? This is a bit different from claiming proximity to russia as foreign policy street cred, doncha think?"

Actually, he was talking about how he had visited 47 of the states during his primary campaign. It just came out as 57. If you were really going by what he said, then the argument would really be that he thinks there are 60 states since in that same sentence, he mentioned three he hadn't visited.

The 57 stuck because it's related to like 57 Muslim states or something. What? Republicans making racist attacks?? Noooooooo!

Posted by: DDAWD | January 8, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

"I'm actually glad, Jake. I don't know how many times I could hear (let alone use) the name of Sister Sarah, without cracking jokes that would likely ruin the good will we established yesterday. My last job was at a group home for the mentally impared, and THEY were absolutely brutal to her. Not many things funnier than a guy with Downs yelling at the TV "hey you dumb*** B****, if you can be vice president, so can I!!!" God I miss those guys!

Posted by: elijah24"

Hah, that's a great story

Posted by: DDAWD | January 8, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

I still would like to know what was so "stunning" about the terrorism report released yesterday.

What is going on here???

Was it that the administration did not believe that Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula was 'OPERATIONAL' ???

NO ONE here really wants to talk about that.
Posted by: 37thand0street
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Not with a fool that thinks Al Qaeda came into Yemen when Obama took office. The Cole bombing happened under Clinton, for people living in the real world.

Posted by: jameschirico | January 8, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

37th, all that shows me is that you know nothing about the military, or liberals.
Admittedly there are more conservatives than liberals in the military, but there are still quite a few of us. We love our country as much as conservatives do. We want to protect it as much as conservatives do. Not all servicemen and women are mindless zombies who believe anything that right-wing polititians would have us believe.

Posted by: elijah24 | January 8, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Too bad for Texas, Mark. This is sad:

Last month, Rep. Dan Lungren (R-CA) said that California’s Proposition 13 — which requires that a two-thirds majority of the state legislature approve any tax increase — should be a “guiding light” for the nation. And Lungren is evidently not the only one in favor of crippling a state’s ability to budget. In a column yesterday, Wall Street Journal editorial board member Stephen Moore heaped praise onto Gov. Rick Perry (R-TX), who is calling for Texas to adopt a Prop. 13-type measure:

On Wednesday, Mr. Perry moved to seal the deal with conservatives by calling for a new constitutional set of protections for taxpayers. Call it a Texas-style “taxpayer bill or rights.” Mr. Perry wants the state’s constitution amended to require a two-thirds vote requirement of the legislature for any tax hikes. He also wants state spending capped at the rate of annual population growth plus inflation.

As Time’s Kevin O’Leary wrote, Prop. 13 lies “at the root of California’s misery,” leaving it no choice but to slash its budget during the economic downturn. Harold Meyerson has pointed out that the Republican minority in Sacramento “has refused in good times as well as bad to raise business or other taxes (increasing the tobacco tax, for instance, has failed each of the past 14 times it has come up for a vote).” So the state is left in an untenable position, and reduced to asking the federal government for support.'

So the red states slash their own taxes and then come begging the rest of us for money.

Posted by: drindl | January 8, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

The GOP handed the ball to Jindahl and he dropped it knocking him out, same goes for Pawlenty moving four steps to the right losing his moderate base. Huckabee is gone with pardons gone bad and other than Romney, none of the others will do better than the 25% share of the GOP registration. A Romney/Crist ticket may sit some of the religious right home, but NV, MI, and FL wins could turn elections.

Posted by: jameschirico | January 8, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

"elijah24

You sound like an ultra-liberal who would never join the military.

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Posted by: 37thand0street |"

See? Some 'people' are not worth your time, or much else either.

Posted by: drindl | January 8, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

I still would like to know what was so "stunning" about the terrorism report released yesterday.


What is going on here???


Was it that the administration did not believe that Al Queda in the Arabian Peninsula was 'OPERATIONAL' ???


NO ONE here really wants to talk about that.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | January 8, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

"A sheet of glass where the Arab world currently exists?"

This is the correct answer. I have seen many, many Republicans in many, many venues express this fantasy with no apology and no equivocation.

Osama bin Laden understands the American millenarian world view (we are in the end times, Armageddon, etc.) and he is serious about drawing the United States into killing so many Muslims the conflagration will intensify to a world-wide jihad. Naturally, he believes Allah is on his side so they can not lose, they just need the big war to happen. The point of terrorism is to provoke the war (like WWI).

Bottom line though is all this Republican saber rattling is a distraction, it is cover for bungling the Afghan war (Tora Bora and Bush believing Musharref a "partner" against the Taliban, when he was anything but) and the Republican's special creation, the Iraqi disaster (still to come: either civil war, Iranian dominion or both).

Posted by: shrink2 | January 8, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

elijah24


You sound like an ultra-liberal who would never join the military.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | January 8, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the link bsimon. I think Pawlenty has to go to CPAC in order to get in the game. Palin and the others are already seated at the table, so they can skip it. I wonder if the people of Minnesota could buy-out his contract, then he could purue his interests and Minnesota could find a governor who wants to govern.

That's an interesting idea. A lot of Township managers get hired away by bigger municipalities after they have demonstrated some skill in a smaller environment. Maybe we need to make it so Governors could move up the same way. Then that guy in Indiana some people are so whipped on could move up. Michigan could offer him big money too ocme on and "rebuild the team."

Posted by: margaretmeyers | January 8, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Heh, when Palin was talking about how the cause of global warming is irrelevant, you could see Biden actually stick his hand in his mouth to hold his tongue.

Posted by: DDAWD | January 8, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Ever notice how moonbat/zouk just spews?, never responds to challenges on his views?

And 37th?, apparently there is some vast left-wing conspiracy on this thread.

One intellectual coward, and one paranoid buffoon, just like a large majority of their ilk.

Posted by: JRM2 | January 8, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Are you going to congratulate Obama and his people for Fort Hood?

And the Detroit plane incident appears to offer no credit to Obama or his team.

How about the Khost bombing which killed 7 CIA officers - congratulate Obama for that too ??

YOU can not be serious.
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FN eh I will. To the policewoman that took out Hasan, was shot and still administered first aid to others and the shot serviceman directing traffic away from the gunfire, are heros in anyone's eyes.

The the FBI interrogators that found out a Dubya released Yemeni was Abdullatab's bomb cell contact also get a positive nod.

How about these heros who gave their lives more than doubling drone attacks in Pakistan this past year over the entire Bush presidency, or should we let them plan to kill us. We missed Hasan's cleric with a drone attack, but he shows his face and we know, he is dead. I guess you are one of the fools that feels safer with mission accomplished and no additional troops for Afghanistan, nearly losing the county.


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Posted by: jameschirico | January 8, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Re: #1...

Eric Black of MN Post digs a little bit into the upcoming CPAC event, the Birchers' status as sponsors, and how that relates to the candidates appearing there (with special emphasis on Gov Pawlenty). Its an interesting read:

http://www.minnpost.com/ericblack/2010/01/08/14780/pawlenty_cpac_and_the_john_birch_society


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Posted by: bsimon1 | January 8, 2010 12:34 PM | Report abuse

"And we want to bring this to you over a period of time, so you can be educated."


Or Reeducated, as the case may be.

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Posted by: bsimon1 | January 8, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse

difference between me and them, shrink, is that I don't want to be anywhere i am not welcome. I don't want to be in the company of people, who don't want to be in mine.

37th, what is a win? What does winning look like? An American flag over Mecca? A sheet of glass where the Arab world currently exists? What is it? I have yet to hear anyone who is for war, explain what that word means in reference to this particular war.

Posted by: elijah24 | January 8, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

And the New Joe McCarthy is a woman:

Fed up with the mainstream media filter, Rep. Sue Myrick (R-NC) is taking her quest to inform Americans about the threat of jihad to the Internet -- namely, YouTube -- in a new weekly terror news video series that will be featured on her congressional Web site.

The first two episodes -- "Beyond Terrorism -The Whole Story" and "Fort Hood - What You're Not Hearing" -- are presented in a news magazine format, with Myrick speaking in front of a grey screen, flanked by an American flag and a plant. In the Fort Hood episode, Myrick "interviews" authors like Walid Phares of the conservative Foundation for Defense of Democracies (while she asks them direct questions, Myrick does not seem to actually be in the room with her interlocutors).

"There is a lot of radicalization on the Internet today; there is radicalization in the mosques; there are people who have been indoctrinated into the same line of thinking that are now in positions in our government," Myrick says in the "Beyond Terrorism" episode (posted below). "All of this is tied together. And we want to bring this to you over a period of time, so you can be educated."

Posted by: drindl | January 8, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Oh look -- Mr. 9/11 has amnesia:


Is That So?

Rudy, on TV this morning: "We had no domestic attacks under Bush; we've had one under Obama."

I guess he just remembers 9/11 when it suits him, like when he's running for President. Here's one of my favorite TPM reels from the 2008 election: Rudy and his constant 9/11 refrain.

Posted by: drindl | January 8, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

...if I get expelled, i will stay gone."

So if my theory works, this means it can never happen.

Oddly, however, there are several folks here who have made that statement, have been banned or left as a result of some perceived outrage on the part of the host (lack of fairness in general and toward themselves in particular), but like a bad oyster, or a moth to a flame, they just keep coming back. The page is like a pheromone for some people, it is irresistible even though they say they can't stand it.

They have tried to quit. Recovery requires step work though and the first step is to admit powerlessness, which brings us back to the top.

Posted by: shrink2 | January 8, 2010 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Obama says we are at war with Al Queda - a little troubling that we have to see our President say that.


The President should be hard at work, making sure we are safe, and that we WIN the war.


Instead, Obama has been off downplaying the war, and trying to walk away from it.

We have to remember, Obama broadcast that he wants to start to pull our troops out of Afghanistan in 18 months.


OBAMA SENT THE WRONG SIGNAL.


Al Queda took off to Yemen - in direct response to Obama.


The administration was caught off guard.

Looking at Napolitano yesterday, looking like a deer-in-headlights.


The Obama people are simply NOT READY - THEY ARE NOT UP FOR THE FIGHT.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | January 8, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

I know, drindle. But that doesn't mean I have to be. And it doesn't mean that all who share the social or political viewpoint of the jerk, are also jerks. I have enough trouble sleeping. I can't aford to lose any over the opinion of me held by someone I will likely never meet.

Posted by: elijah24 | January 8, 2010 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Elijah - 37th is just trying to goad you so he can demand that CC ban you. Permanently. [Wait for it...

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Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | January 8, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, shrink I don't expect it to happen. I'm just saying I don't think I would be first in line. And for the record, if I get expelled, i will stay gone.

Posted by: elijah24 | January 8, 2010 11:57 AM | Report abuse

I still would like to know what was so "stunning" about the terrorism report released yesterday.


What is going on here???


Was it that the administration did not believe that Al Queda in the Arabian Peninsula was 'OPERATIONAL' ???


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Posted by: 37thand0street | January 8, 2010 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Is there such a thing as a secular Republican? It would almost be like having a third party.

Posted by: Please_Fix_VAs_Roads | January 8, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

I must admit that I did not understand a single question on that last math quiz.

I am therefore, a great liberal mathematician

I guess that does explain the Kruggman thing.

Posted by: Moonbat | January 8, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

You see, elijah? you can be as nice as pie to some people and they will still act like jerks, because that's all they know how to do or be.

Posted by: drindl | January 8, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

37th, I only recall telling you that i work for the Dept of the Army now (which I only mentioned to explain why I have so much time to post) and that i worked in a group home for the mentally challenged (which I mentioned so that I could tell the about my friend shouting at the TV because i thought it was funny) I did mention that i am a vet for credibility purposes, but if i remember correctly, it was a rebuttal to something i knew to be factually inaccurate.
Are you putting together a file on me? That makes me want to give you less info, not more. Personally, I think thou doth protesteth too much. But again, I don't care. By definition, none of us have any credibility in this venue.

Posted by: elijah24 | January 8, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Admitting you are a lousy President in your first yeaar in office doesn't make you a better President

Posted by: hotrodzoomguy | January 8, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

"...expulsion."

There is no such thing.
The very thing that makes people worthy of expulsion makes them impossible to expel.

Posted by: shrink2 | January 8, 2010 11:49 AM | Report abuse

TRUE TALES OF LAME U.S. GOV'T PSY OPS CENSORS

• Holy Salami! Is THIS how the Security State is "keeping America safe?"

• AFTER-ACTION REPORT: ROGUES TAKE DOWN WEB PAGE FRAUD!

http://nowpublic.com/world/true-tales-lame-u-s-govt-psy-ops-censors OR
http://NowPublic.com/scrivener

Posted by: scrivener50 | January 8, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

"What, you don't care to read about Mrs. Fix needing to get some exercise and finding out whether Wii Fit will fit the bill?"


Exactly. I don't need that particular insight into his personal life to get a political Fix.

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Posted by: bsimon1 | January 8, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

What a laugh!!!

You can make the country unsafe run unrmployment up to 10%, but if you go ahead and admit you're an idiot that makes you a great President. Wow!!

Posted by: hotrodzoomguy | January 8, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

"Palin kicked Bidens butt because she was right on the issues, not because he gave her a pass."

That comment is just too funny for words. If it really were the case then we would be suffering from VP Palin right now, but we're not.

We're just enjoying the spectacle of a segment of the republican party that is so desperate and angry that they lost power that they will stoop to any level to get it back. It's just fun to watch the train wreck.

Posted by: jasperanselm | January 8, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

What a laugh!!!

You can make the country unsafe run unrmployment up to 10%, but if you go ahead and admit you're an idiot that makes you a great President. Wow!!

Posted by: hotrodzoomguy | January 8, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Besides, I never had any credibility on her in the first place. None of us do except The Fix himself. You couldn't pick me out of a line-up if I had a "hello my name is" sticker on. All you know of me is my screen-name. You don't even know where it comes from (FYI: it's my middle name and my jersey number in high school) and I don’t know where your name comes from. And I don't care. I'm not here to be a witness before a jury or congress. I'm here to debate politics. If credibility is a prerequisite for being here, none of us belong, but there are a few people who are in front of me in the line to expulsion.

Posted by: elijah24 | January 8, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

elijah24

You have practically given us your entire employment history, in a lame attempt to get some credibility for your pro-Obama stances.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | January 8, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Moonbat's acid notwithstanding, President Obama is actually doing a great job. Compare his straightforward admissions of things the agencies did wrong with President Bush's seeming inability to ever admit to a mistake.

Look. The mark of great Presidents is that they step up and take accountability. President Bush go rolled by a conservative right that requires its leaders to be perfect in all things. Presently they seem to be on a jihad to require that anyone aspiring to higher office as a republican or a conservative adhere to a specific loyalty oath. Such tactics are reminiscent of the fascist movements in Germany and Italy in the last century.

JFK similarly took responsibility for the failed Bay of Pigs operation. That too was a CIA failure. However by stepping up, JFK endeared himself to the people as I suspect President Obama will. As for the polls, put no stock in them because they are woefully flawed in that period between elections and in particular in harsh economic times.

The President will survive this easily and for all of the bubble and fizz created by a mainstream media trying to gin up conflict with these silly tea party demonstrations, I predict that this President will weather the storms about him and end up one of America's greatest Presidents.

Posted by: jaxas70 | January 8, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

hitpoints


Are you going to congratulate Obama and his people for Fort Hood?


And the Detroit plane incident appears to offer no credit to Obama or his team.


How about the Khost bombing which killed 7 CIA officers - congratulate Obama for that too ??

YOU can not be serious.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | January 8, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Barry still tenaciously clings to his misguided and unrealistic promise to close Gitmo. It seems to be driving his foreign policy.

Meanwhile he has abandoned a good idea, turn on the cameras at the health care bribery session. No explanation why the transparency and new politics is in the wind while the old functioning terror policy has been jettisoned.

Posted by: Moonbat | January 8, 2010 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Not to be rude 37th, but I don't care what you believe about me. I have not made anything up. I have not told you much about myself. I generally try to keep my remarks limited to my thoughts and opinions about the issues at hand. Anything I have told you about myself, has only been for the purpose of telling you why I feel the way I do about something.
I don't really get the point of the whole "online persona" thing. My favorite thing about this page is that it is one place where I can really be myself, without starting a fight with someone I care about. That said, I'm not shy. What do you want to know?

Posted by: elijah24 | January 8, 2010 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Let's see Palin doesn't do well among "Professional Political Class" I'm sure she'll lose a lot of sleep over that.
This is the very bunch of Rinos that are making our party Dem Light. I like Romney but he has to long way to go to convince
me he's a true Conservative. Having said that I would vote for him in the General election.

As far as Palin being eaten up in a Republican debate, that statement just exemplifies the arrogance and stupidity of the peson who made the comment. Palin kicked Bidens butt because she was right on the issues, not because he gave her a pass. Let's see I'm going to lose this debate because I don't want to hurt Sarahs' feelings. That's not the Biden I know.

Finally, Obamas not going to lose his reelection bid because of one terrorist incident, he'll lose it because at the end of his term the majority of voters will see him for what he is, the most unprepared inept person to ever occupy the White House.

Posted by: hotrodzoomguy | January 8, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

elijah24

I don't believe all the things you have said about yourself - I think you have "made up" an online persona.


Why don't you simply be honest about who you are?


If you are lying about who you are, then why should anyone believe anything you have to say?


You have ruined your credibility.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | January 8, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse

I would like to propose that any Democrats on this page, and any Republicans and Independants who respect their country, refuse to engage moonbat and anyone else who refuses to refer to the President with respect. When you refer to the President, you are not just refering to the man, but to the office, the executive branch, and the leader of our country. I don't mind you refering to him by his last name, or his full name, or any name by to which he answers, but calling him "Barry" is an attempt to minimize both the man and the office. When he leaves office, call him whatever you like.

Posted by: elijah24 | January 8, 2010 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Wow you libs are really dense. I am referring to the enemies interest in attacking us and you find a way to convert that to a good. Terror and suicide bombings had been on the decline from 2002-2008. The popularity of bin laden plummeted. This was not due to bushs sweet talking. It was because the enemy was perceived as losing in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Now we project weakness. In 2006 the Iraq war was lost. Now a constitutional government, certainly interfering with the mullahs grip on Iran. The us military has shifted from invader to nation builder and peace keeper. Aq has most of it's leaders hiding or dead. Iran
is on shaky ground. Europe is waking up to Muslim appeasement.

In fact, Bush did it. Barry needs to relearn all these lessons again? I thought he was so smart.

Posted by: Moonbat | January 8, 2010 11:07 AM | Report abuse

" think it's the second, though. This doesn't seem to be a teabaggers vs moderates battle."

Does the name James Bopp ring a bell? The teabagger bloc is going to hang the idiot Steele by his own moronic words. Of course the teabaggers have a side in this fight, and it's not the one Steele is on. Once he is ousted, they will work to put Bopp or some other teabagger in charge of the party.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | January 8, 2010 11:02 AM | Report abuse

They set him up to knock him down. Any comparison between that mustachioed charlatan and Howard Dean is spurious.

Since we've skidded off topic again anyway, this is an extraordinary collection of pictures.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/8448177.stm

Posted by: shrink2 | January 8, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

"2009 saw the greatest number of foiled terror attacks. One third of all attacks in eight years happened last year."

Yes, I congratulate the Obama administration and diligent Americans (and a Dutch passenger) from foiling them all. Bush couldn't stop the biggest one we've had, remember? Or the anthrax attacks.

Oh, and when dealing with small numbers, talking about large percent increases really means nothing. Intelligent people realize this.

Posted by: hitpoints | January 8, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

The GOP base is in the process of finishing off its high-tech lynching of Mike Steele. That's the real news of the day.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | January 8, 2010 10:58 AM | Report abuse

'2009 saw the greatest number of foiled terror attacks. One third of all attacks in eight years happened last year.'
.............
So if one was to believe, or even pay any attention to your constant rants, Obama stopped the greatest number of attacks. While Bush had the only attack in the last decade. Good work Bushie.

Posted by: PatrickNYC1 | January 8, 2010 10:54 AM | Report abuse

I don't miss the former

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What, you don't care to read about Mrs. Fix needing to get some exercise and finding out whether Wii Fit will fit the bill?

Posted by: shrink2 | January 8, 2010 10:54 AM | Report abuse

2009 saw the greatest number of foiled terror attacks. One third of all attacks in eight years happened last year. Obama was busy interviewing on al arabiya, speeching in Cairo, bowing to Saudis, promising to close Gitmo and trashing bushs policies.

Even liberals will figure this out eventually. Will it take dead Americans for Barry to figure out that some are still at war?

Posted by: Moonbat | January 8, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse

"Am I the only one that doesn't see CC's Facebook and The Line widgets anymore?"

You are not. Personally, I don't miss the former, though the latter is/was useful.

Posted by: bsimon1 | January 8, 2010 10:45 AM | Report abuse

The Four Rights of a Republican Entitlement Brat

1. War
2. Cheap Labor
3. Govt Bailout
4. Low Taxes

Posted by: 76yourfriend | January 8, 2010 10:40 AM | Report abuse

mnteng -- I'm not getting them either so don't go feeling special.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | January 8, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Come on Moonbat, this is too easy! You simply must make this more difficult! Your asinine assertions are too easy to shoot down.

Too much borrowing? Where were you reptiles when Bush and Cheney were borrowing to the hilt from the Saudis while relieving Charlie Schwab, the Walton family and Rush Limbaugh from having to pay a dime for a bogus war in Iraq based on lies drummed up by Bush and Cheney and peddled by the same mainstream media they demonize as liberal? Why weren't you right wing sheep mewling when Bush and Cheney used the Patriot Act to wiretap American citizens and used the DOJ as a personal political tool to investigate the opposition.

No Moonbat, you are simply too easy. The truth is that conservatives have no credibility in all of the bellowing about deficits and debt they are doing now when they applauded a few years ago when Dick Cheney said stupidly: "ArrrrgheAhemmmmem (clearing his throat of a blob of buttered potato) As you know Tim...uhhh, ahhh deficits don't matter."

Look. Suffice to say that on that great bulbous hypocritometer kept in the office of the Great Mentioner, conservatives take the equivalent of the Nobel Peace Prize for hypocrisy beyond the call of duty and reason. No intelligent creature in any cosmos anywhere takes you seriously anymore. If indeed, they ever did.

Posted by: jaxas70 | January 8, 2010 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Chris anything true about reports that Palin will not appear or speak at events unless she is paid a fee?

Also what about the GOP making comments that there were no attack under Bush's watch? When will the press call them that it was Bush who was in office when the towers came down?

Posted by: PatrickNYC1 | January 8, 2010 10:31 AM | Report abuse

I see that zoukie has returned as Moonbat.

Still pathetically idiotic with his comments though but what should I expect. He should spend more time on the Hannah Montana blog; that's were his intellectual equals reside.

Posted by: jasperanselm | January 8, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

If Romney gets it, he has to get a tea-bagger on board with him. otherwise, he has no chance of winning. He needs Palin or Rick Perry. If he doesn't get the base he wont win. If he doesn't somehow also real in the moderates, he also won't win. Basically, if the GOP doesn't find a way to unite, President Obama will be unavailable for book-signings until 2016.

Posted by: elijah24 | January 8, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Off-topic ...

Am I the only one that doesn't see CC's Facebook and The Line widgets anymore?

Posted by: mnteng | January 8, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

The other day, I asked myself, "Self, assuming that Romney does become the Republican nominee, who on earth does he pick as a running mate?"

I know we're 18-20 months out, but I'm thinkin' Bobby J. (to show everyone how INCLUSIVE the modern GOP has become).

Anyone else want to speculate?

Posted by: Bondosan | January 8, 2010 10:18 AM | Report abuse

Moonbat, you certainly have an appropriate blog handle given the batty assertions you make in your squalid little commentary. Look. I get it. You simply cannot stand the fact that this guy doesn't look, act, walk, talk, think and smell like you do. I get it. He has this dark skin you simply cannot abide. And, he is intelligent. That's the real rub here. He doesn't remind you of all of your own, slimy, ignorant, dweeby, dumbed down heroes--the unimaginably grotesque Rush Limbaugh whose mission in life is to disinform Americans into his hogpen of right wing slop and miserable rewrite of history to conform to his pre-Civil War philosophy; the astonishingly dim-witted Sarah Palin with her wild. wacky conspiracies about death panels that send you right wing dingos into spasms of erotic gushing; or the lovely and talented Glenn Beck who blubbers on cue.

Believe me. No rational American with a reasonable collection of brain cells or a scintilla of decency and honesty is going to reject an honorable, educated man like President Obama in favor of that hideous crowd of hyenas.

Posted by: jaxas70 | January 8, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse

"Elijah. What would you say about a liberal pol who:(did all that crap you said)"

Gosh Moonbat, you got me. Cuz I'm an idiot and you are wise. Ok really heres what i would say:
MB:failed to understand the terror issue until a plane was almost blown up
Me: I don't think he failed to understand anything. Terrorism is real. and the fact of the matter is that we will not catch everything. I don't blame Bush for 9-11, and I dont blame President Obama for the Underwear Bomber. If you insist on blaming Obama for this, you have to also blame Bush for that, and his was infinitely worse.

MB:failed to deal with the issue of jobs for an entire year
Me: Reagan never had more than 3 major issues on the agenda at a time. At this point in his presidency he was pretty unpopular too. Now you would put him on Mt. Rushmore. The stim was all about jobs, and is working, but it's a slow process under the best of circumstances, and thes aren't the best of circumstances.

MB: promised to broadcast meetings then didn't
Me: No excuses here. He should be broadcasting them.

MB: thought there were 57 states and that Austrian was a language.
Me: Really? Do you really think he thought there were 57 states? Could it be that there were 57 primary/caucus's, 51 of which were states including one of each for TX, and he accidentally misspoke? This is a bit different from claiming proximity to russia as foreign policy street cred, doncha think?

Hypocrite? Liar? Incompetent? Worthy of racial or sexist slurs?

I didn't use any racist or sexist slurs. And I wouldn't. Sister Sarah, were a guy named Frank, I'd call him "Father Frank". As I said, it's a refrence to her holier than thou attitude, not her reproductive system.

Good try though.

Posted by: elijah24 | January 8, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse

Palin's problems are not going to be with the democrats. If she runs she will have to face and be scrutinized by other republicans who are running. She will be the punching bag that makes the others look good to moderates as the primaries heat up. To get moderate votes they will pummel Palin and make her look stupid (well, she does that pretty well on her own). If Palin is smart she will stay out of the race and position herself as kingmaker, drawing her brainless fans to vote for her favorite candidate.

But my feeling is Palin is not smart and has way too much ambition. She will not be able to resist a run if anyone opens that door for her. As she herself said a year ago:

"I'm like, OK, God, if there is an open door for me somewhere, this is what I always pray, I'm like, don't let me miss the open door. Show me where the open door is. Even if it's cracked up a little bit, maybe I'll plow right on through that and maybe prematurely plow through it, but don't let me miss an open door. And if there is an open door in '12 or four years later, and if it is something that is going to be good for my family, for my state, for my nation, an opportunity for me, then I'll plow through that door.”

Can't wait to see a Huckabee/Palin debate. It should beat out any other comedy show on TV. Also can't wait for the Romney/Palin debate. He'll eat her alive. Biden was nice and showed deference in his debate with her. Republicans are not so nice.

Posted by: Fate1 | January 8, 2010 10:07 AM | Report abuse

The demise of the democrats is virtually assured. All that borrowing- 160 billion a week, has now begun to crowd out the private markets. Interest rates are already rising and energy and food costs will soon skyrocket due to inept economics and oppressive regulation.

Anyone with a job left will notice that their dollar doesn't go as far, further depressing travel, tech and energy markets.

Another Carter type general unhappiness, malaise, will ensue. And that is without considering the increasing likelihood of a successful man made disaster.

Posted by: Moonbat | January 8, 2010 10:06 AM | Report abuse

The bubble and fizz over the Coakley-Brown fight for Ted Kennedy's old seat is being driven by one poll that showed Brown had moved to within 10 points of Coakley. And that poll--a Rasmussen poll--has come under fire because, as reputable people within the business know, Rasmussen uses the controversial method of automated polling. He uses that method because he knows that it is the most likely technique to reach conservatives.

I hold the mainstream media responsible for its shocking lack of any indepth analysis of just how these media polls are being conducted. They are all using highly questionable techniques that seem to to be structured in such a way as to create the illusion that America is taking a turn to the right.

Keep this in mind as you see these polls come out: There are only two political parties in America. Yet most of these polls have been structured to include this third category of "independents" as though they are a distinct political party. Just as an example a recent poll suggested that a majority of Americans had more respect for the Tea Party crowd than the other two parties. This is precisely the sort of deceptive polling I am talking about. The Tea Party got a respectable 42% but, in reality that tells us that 58% of the public went for the legitimate two parties. The method in which they structured the poll and the questions were specifically designed to give the media a legitimate claim that the Tea Party is the dominant force in America when clearly it isn't. And they will design the question in an ambiguous way that pulls more moderate or progressives into that category as well.

This is duplicitous. And it is all done to promote the Tea Party elements because they create conflict, ratings and profit for the mainstream media. But, it also is a shameful disservice to the profession of journalism.

Posted by: jaxas70 | January 8, 2010 9:59 AM | Report abuse

'bama was huge. I was amazed how well the horns did.

In re sports psychology and its political relevance, not to put too fine a point on it, but the loss of a leader to injury by the opposition can be as invigorating to the opposition as it can be deflating to the team with the injured one.

It is perhaps for this reason the Republican party is coming together around its right wing, the group that has caused Obama's reputation the most damage. They may be nutbars, but they look courageous, energized and dangerous, a force to be reckoned with, unlike for example Lindsay Graham.

Posted by: shrink2 | January 8, 2010 9:58 AM | Report abuse

I still want to know what was supposed to be so "stunning" with the terrorism report yesterday.

I think the "stunning" fact is that the administration was "stunned" that Al Queda was trying to attack us -

Napolitano appeared amazed that Al Queda was "operational" - 8 years after 9/11 !!!!


We now have Al Queda's Response to Obama's surge in Afghanistan:


Obama just spent six months telling us that he was going to come up with a better military strategy - better than Bush - and that he was going to start shutting down the war in 18 months.


AL QUEDA'S RESPONSE: MOVE TO YEMEN, INSTIGATE THE FORT HOOD SHOOTING, AND PUT A BOMB ON A PLANE TO DETROIT.


Obama also appears to have been caught completely off-guard that Al Queda would actually come up with a COUNTER-STRATEGY to the "better" strategy that Obama broadcast to world time and time again.


I supposed that Al Queda has decided NOT to shut down the war in 18 months.

I'm sorry but Obama looks like a complete amateur -


Obama and his team - after being in office a year - appear completely unable to do the job -

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Posted by: 37thand0street | January 8, 2010 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Lack of character:

what would you say about a leader who while the nation is suffering through record unemployment:

vacations in Hawaii and states he doesn't want to go home

builds his dog a castle made of veal for the holidays

takes his wife on a taxpayer funded date night to the tune of hundreds of thousands

sends his own kids to the best private school while eliminating funding do the poor can attend

sits in a hate church for 20 years

Posted by: Moonbat | January 8, 2010 9:48 AM | Report abuse

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/08/business/global/08chanos.html?hpw

The Darth Vader of investing says China is making way too much stuff for a country (ours) that is not going to be the consumer of last resort for the world anymore. How interesting. Would a crash in the Chinese economy help or hurt the US economy? Would the price of everything we buy rise, or fall? Meanwhile, gas prices somehow keep rising even though American refiners are running at 2/3 capacity and oil process have been steady for months. Inflation would be a recovery killer for sure (stagflation, not Reagan saying, "there you go again," destroyed Jimmy Carter).

Off topic? Well everyone agrees the economic recovery, or not, is just about the only topic that matters for any district that is purple.

Posted by: shrink2 | January 8, 2010 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Shrink, unemployment is, indeed, the nightmare scenario for Ds. If the male nude model in MA and the female wrestling impresari[a] in CT come close, or win, the Rs can take heart. There lurks for Rs the possibility of backlash for appearing gleeful over misery; I think that backlash is unlikely. The Ds should be very anxious that the Prez's public refocus on jobs should coincide with an actual upward swing in employment.

Otherwise, regardless of reality, which is complex, KOZ's view of BHO as ineffectual will spread far and wide. I watched the UT defensive unit sag after McCoy was injured. There was not a direct, physical link. It was in their heads that they were leaderless. For BHO to focus on jobs is good for the country, but if new jobs do not appear, I think the public will feel leaderless. It may all be in the perception.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | January 8, 2010 9:43 AM | Report abuse

It'c obvious Palin still has no clue how to run a campaign or how to build a viable electoral coalition. Bopping around the country making both the establishment and the grass roots mad is no way to set up a 2012 run.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: parkerfl1 | January 8, 2010 9:43 AM | Report abuse

FarlingtonBlade writes
"There are some parallels to Steele. Controversial, outspoken. Will Republicans win big? If so, how can he be booted. Winning, in sports as in politics, is a wonderful deodorant."

I tend to agree - there are legitimate parallels between Dean & Steele. Steele's problem is that he hasn't won any races as chairman; the GOP has a big donut for successes in congressional special elections since he took over, right? I don't think he gets credit for the NJ & VA gubernatorial wins.

Posted by: bsimon1 | January 8, 2010 9:43 AM | Report abuse

Not to mention the sycophant followers - the liberal press. He can do no wrong.

Watch out. Your own argument is sneaking up behind you. Why does this always happen to libs.

They decry some behavior only to drop the subject when their own expertise is demonstrated. Graft for example. Bribery. Spending. Gas prices. All the complaints about bush. Scattered and abandoned now that Barry is the culprit.

Posted by: Moonbat | January 8, 2010 9:40 AM | Report abuse

Elijah. What would you say about a liberal pol who:

failed to understand the terror issue until a plane was almost blown up

failed to deal with the issue of jobs for an entire year

promised to broadcast meetings then didn't

thought there were 57 states and that Austrian was a language.

Hypocrite? Liar? Incompetent? Worthy of racial or sexist slurs?

Posted by: Moonbat | January 8, 2010 9:34 AM | Report abuse

"Not many things funnier than a guy with Downs yelling at the TV "hey you dumb*** B****, if you can be vice president, so can I!!!" God I miss those guys!"


Elijah, your participation here has made digging through the trash a bit more tolerable.

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Posted by: bsimon1 | January 8, 2010 9:33 AM | Report abuse

Drivl's mutual admiration echo chamber can't stand any voices contrary to the extreme liberal line. If confronted the reply is (chant with me)

glen beck, rush limbaugh, evil lizzard brains, bush lied

apply randomly.

A new one is nominated. Sarah is a dumb beech.

Posted by: Moonbat | January 8, 2010 9:28 AM | Report abuse

Moonbat, I can assure you that my thoughts on Sister Sarah (a name that is a reference to her pathological need to appear morally superior like a nun, rather than her gender) are not about gender, or really even party. They are about her remarkable lack of character, her hypocrisy, her inability to remember facts (or magazine titles) and her complete lack of understanding of issues. My contempt for her is equaled only by my contempt for her sycophantic following, to which she can do no wrong even when she is factually and demonstrably wrong. if there is a Dem who is as incompetent and self-righteous as her, I assure you I will be even more hostile, without regard for race, gender or any other irrelevant, arbitrary factor.

Posted by: elijah24 | January 8, 2010 9:26 AM | Report abuse

Here is the best news for Republicans since the underwear bomb started popping.

"The magnitude of the [job] losses in December was worse than many economists had predicted, and some had even forecast a return to job creation. A broad measure of unemployment — one that includes those forced to work only part time and those too discouraged to look for work — climbed slightly to 17.3 percent."

Posted by: shrink2 | January 8, 2010 9:21 AM | Report abuse

Fairlington Blade Writes:

@37th - Moreandbetterpolls has been posting for awhile around here. Perhaps you should make your points instead of ferreting around for hidden identities and agendas?

BB


____________________________________


Hit a little sensitve spot, huh ???


Perhaps you guys ARE all working together - being directed by one source.

You guys are alway annoyed that you can not dominate the entire discussion - like that is your objective -


Always annoyed that you are not allowed to harass other posters as well - as if you HAVE TO HARASS OTHER POSTERS.


.

Posted by: 37thand0street | January 8, 2010 9:19 AM | Report abuse

@37th - Moreandbetterpolls has been posting for awhile around here. Perhaps you should make your points instead of ferreting around for hidden identities and agendas?

BB

Amen, Brother BB.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | January 8, 2010 9:15 AM | Report abuse

Elijah. Since she is female and repub I guess that is hilarious. If he were democrat and black with the associated slurs, would all you libs still be laughing. I wonder where people learn this behavior? Seems like the angry left bears this handicap.

Posted by: Moonbat | January 8, 2010 9:14 AM | Report abuse

jake @846 - Too Much Information: I might start letting fly with daily posts like "The putterast just logged-on so there will be no more sense here today."

Posted by: margaretmeyers | January 8, 2010 9:13 AM | Report abuse

37. Don't mention the four deadlines Iran ignored while Barry played footsie. The severe consequences are probably no more apology speeches.

More mush from the wimp!

The buck stops here. All three trillion a year.

No blame. Especially the One. How about a round of sincere, heartfelt apologies instead.

Posted by: Moonbat | January 8, 2010 9:08 AM | Report abuse

Still no hiring for the Obama era.

The jobs saved must be in DHS.

War? What war?

Posted by: Moonbat | January 8, 2010 9:03 AM | Report abuse

We now have Al Queda's Response to Obama's surge in Afghanistan:


Obama just spent six months telling us that he was going to come up with a better military strategy - better than Bush - and that he was going to start shutting down the war in 18 months.

AL QUEDA'S RESPONSE: MOVE TO YEMEN, INSTIGATE THE FORT HOOD SHOOTING, AND PUT A BOMB ON A PLANE TO DETROIT.

What a complete mess for Obama - first it is CLEAR that for six months Obama MISSED THE COMPLETE POINT IN THE WAR WITH AL QUEDA - OBAMA WASTED SIX MONTHS.

Obama also appears to have been caught completely off-guard that Al Queda would actually come up with a COUNTER-STRATEGY to the "better" strategy that Obama broadcast to world time and time again.

I supposed that Al Queda has decided NOT to shut down the war in 18 months.


Is that what was so "stunning"

I'm sorry but Obama looks like a complete amateur -


Obama and his team - after being in office a year - appear completely unable to do the job -

They even appear surprised WHAT THEIR JOB IS.

AND WE KEEP ON GETTING THE IMPRESSION THAT THEY ARE HOPING THAT NO ONE NOTICES.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | January 8, 2010 9:02 AM | Report abuse

I'm actually glad, Jake. I don't know how many times I could hear (let alone use) the name of Sister Sarah, without cracking jokes that would likely ruin the good will we established yesterday. My last job was at a group home for the mentally impared, and THEY were absolutely brutal to her. Not many things funnier than a guy with Downs yelling at the TV "hey you dumb*** B****, if you can be vice president, so can I!!!" God I miss those guys!

Posted by: elijah24 | January 8, 2010 9:02 AM | Report abuse

Dean made a lot of establishment Democrats cringe with some comments. His recent comments on the current health care bill and previous statements at the Netroots convention, for example. Note that he didn't get HHS or even any post in the current administration. His 50 state strategy was very controversial--the opposing view was that Democrats should invest in winnable races rather than spend money in deep red states. The Democrats also won big during his tenure as party chair, including in some deep red states.

There are some parallels to Steele. Controversial, outspoken. Will Republicans win big? If so, how can he be booted. Winning, in sports as in politics, is a wonderful deodorant.

@37th - Moreandbetterpolls has been posting for awhile around here. Perhaps you should make your points instead of ferreting around for hidden identities and agendas?

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | January 8, 2010 8:52 AM | Report abuse

MoreAndBetterPolls:

All the posts re: Steele are "on topic" though?

momof20yo:

Have you heard of the TEA Party then? Gov. Palin is slated to give the Keynote speech to their National Convention on February 6 (Ronald Reagan's birthday BTW ; )

All (who have not been banned):

I wish I could stay and defend Gov. Palin on this thread today. Alas, I have an early tee time. Have a great weekend.

Posted by: JakeD | January 8, 2010 8:46 AM | Report abuse

I agree with Elijah on the comparison of Steele and Dean. Dean was a great DNC chairman, IMO, it was the Washington consultants that didn't like him. This was mainly because he focused his efforts and money on building the state parties back up to promenance and emplying the fifty state strategy, which paid off BIG TIME in 2008. It will also pay big dividends when this next election gets a little closer too. Grassroots orginization is what rules midterm elections and although the Tea Party movement have a lot of people that make a lot of noise they haven't demonstrated that they can actually get anyone elected (see Hoffman in NY-23). Therefore, the foundation that Dean put in place from 2005-2008 may be the dam that keeps a GOP wave election at bay.

Posted by: AndyR3 | January 8, 2010 8:45 AM | Report abuse

ON Obama's response to terrorism:


I had a sense yesterday, when Brennan and Napolitano were up at the podium, that they just didn't know what they were doing.


It was almost like an assembly in school, we had the adminstration, and a teacher up there, and they just weren't sure they were going to be able to handle the students.

WHAT WAS "STUNNING"????

We woke up yesterday to word that there would be a "stunning" aspect to the terrorism report - but what was it???


Could it be that the administration was "stunned" by something - and the rest of the country wasn't ???


Is it possible that the administration is so out of touch with the war on terror that they are "stunned" that we are still at war????

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Posted by: 37thand0street | January 8, 2010 8:44 AM | Report abuse

MoreAndBetterPolls


Who are you? Are you another of the banned posters coming back under a different name? You seem to be complaining.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | January 8, 2010 8:36 AM | Report abuse

"I had the Steele item open in the other tab. He's beginning to sound like the Republicans' Howard Dean."
==
Blade, this one needs some explaination. Dems Love Dr. Dean, the GOP hates Steele. Dean helped get dems their first ever nation-wide financial advantage over Republicans in an election. Steele is barely keeping the lights on. When Dean talks, Dems shout "h*ll yeah!" and Republicans just shout. When Steele speaks the GOP puts their heads between their knees and breaths into a sack, while Dems press record, then call thier friends and say "hey, you gotta see this!".
So how exactly are they anything alike?

Posted by: elijah24 | January 8, 2010 8:31 AM | Report abuse

37thand0street wrote that it was "disasterous" (sic) that a sitting President did not permit a clothing manufacturer to use his image in its advertsing. That must relate to Topic Number Two.

No?

Then perhaps it is responsive to a previous post.

No?

Perhaps it is so sensible, so cogent, that it must be read even when it is irrelevant to the suggested topic and not responsive to another post.

No.

Will it likely be repeated, in the same or similar form, throughout the day? We merely pose the question.

Posted by: MoreAndBetterPolls | January 8, 2010 8:30 AM | Report abuse

The anti-health care crowd has a chance to show how they feel about Obama's health care bill in Massachusetts - granted this is in a heavily democratic state - however people have a chance to come out and show how what they believe by voting.

Obama has been over-reading and mis-reading his mandate all year long.

The people have a chance to come out and say what they want - if enough come out, they can stop the 60 votes in the Senate.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | January 8, 2010 8:26 AM | Report abuse

On #6 my favorite line was Steele saying "You don't see the Democrats running around trying to beat up their national chairman or embarrass him."

Maybe thats because our chairman isn't a complete idiot. I have a feeling that he is gone this spring sometime. This isn't the first time that he has taken heat about some stupid comment he made, and his fundraising isn't anywhere close to what it should be. Especially now that Kaine doesn't have his day job anymore I would be willing to bet that the DNC will outraise the RNC this quarter and that will be the nail in Steele's coffin.

Posted by: AndyR3 | January 8, 2010 8:23 AM | Report abuse

URGENT TO TEAM OBAMA, CONGRESS:

Underpants attack deflects attention from ATROCITIES committed by U.S. security, military and intel agencies and their local "partners."

FED FUSION CENTERS SILENTLY TORTURE, IMPAIR AMERICANS WITH CELL TOWER MICROWAVES, SAYS VETERAN JOURNALIST

What does Secret Service Director Mark Sullivan know about this?

• Regional Homeland Security- administered fusion centers use a nationwide microwave/laser electromagnetic radiation "directed energy" weapon system to silently torture, impair, subjugate unconstitutionally "targeted" Americans and their families -- an American genocide hiding in plain sight.

• Victims' own cell phones may be used to torture them.

• How a young FBI agent's "I believe you" gave victim the faith to go public.

See: http://Poynter.org ("Groups -- REPORTING" section); OR
http://nowpublic.com/world/u-s-silently-tortures-americans-cell-tower-microwaves

Posted by: scrivener50 | January 8, 2010 8:21 AM | Report abuse

This is how disasterous Obama's tenure has become: Obama can not get anything right.


The BEST THING TO HAPPEN TO OBAMA IN A WHILE - BESIDES THE BOMB NOT GOING OFF.


Was the Jacket company putting Obama's picture up in Times Square with Obama looking good and rugged.

Great Deal for Obama.

But what does Obama do? He tells them to take it down.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | January 8, 2010 8:10 AM | Report abuse

News flash! Michael Steele is on C-SPAN's morning call in show right now. I'll report back if he says anything interesting.

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Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | January 8, 2010 8:08 AM | Report abuse

Putting more stimulus money in green jobs is something that has been in the pipeline for months now this speach is just to highlight the issue. Also I think it means that the White House has polling numbers that say that the public don't care too much about the failed terrorist attack in Detroit. They know just like we all do that the economy and the overall unemployment numbers will decide the next election so that is what they are focused on.

DDAWD the jobs report should be out today sometime, but the preliminary analyses look positive at this point. I have also heard that more people are actually back looking for jobs so the overall unemployment may still stay above 10% but you never know. The manufactoring and service industries have basically used up their surpluses and pretty soon will need to hire workers back.
I have said all along I think unemployment will start to fall this spring and by summer will be at 8% or below. That is still too high but with the census hiring close to 1 million people and 50% or more of the stimulus still to be paid out I don't think it is completely out of line.

Posted by: AndyR3 | January 8, 2010 8:04 AM | Report abuse

mnteng and I were just talking about the races in PA last night. We're so topical. Gerlach's 6 CD in PA is one of the Permanent Republican Majority districts. You wouldn't believe the outline of my CD.
Gerlach got reelected by voting with the Bush Administration and then lying low. This pleased the Republicans and kept the Democrats in the district from getting agitated. But he avoids all conflict, he's an uninspiring fund raiser and his legislative accomplishments after 7 years are about nil. He ducked out of re-election when it looked like it was going to be hard, and now he is ducking back in again because the governorship no longer looks easy. As a result, he is jamming-up other Republican nominees in the 6th and 7th districts. I don't think Schroder is going to give him any ground.

His reelection last year was fluke. Certainly the 6th CD can do better.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | January 8, 2010 8:03 AM | Report abuse

I had the Steele item open in the other tab. He's beginning to sound like the Republicans' Howard Dean.

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Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | January 8, 2010 8:00 AM | Report abuse

Thanks Mark. Unfortunately, still losing jobs, it seems, but the job loss was significantly lower in December than previously. I guess that's a little consolation? Who knows whether it is due to the Christmas season as well.

Posted by: DDAWD | January 8, 2010 7:22 AM | Report abuse

Ddawd, the private ADP numbers are out - but I do not think the DOL numbers are.

http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/marketwire/0574152.htm

ADP usually predicts the DOL numbers.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | January 8, 2010 7:15 AM | Report abuse

Speaking of the economy, Mark, have the December employment numbers come out yet? There is an interesting graph showing net job loss per month. It's been an upside down bell curve over the past year with the greatest job losses in the summer. However, rate of job loss has been decreasing over the past few months and was at about zero for November. If the trend continues, December will be the first month in a long time with net job creation.

Posted by: DDAWD | January 8, 2010 7:10 AM | Report abuse

Oh . . my . . .goodness . . . the Southern Republican Leadership Conference (never heard of them) wants Sarah Palin to be a keynote speaker? They think Sarah Palin, the quitter, the 2008 VP job sore-loser, has something to teach them?

Don't they know that darlin' Sarah has been bad-mouthing the Republican party ever since she lost the VP race in 2008? I can't figure out which one of them, the SRLC or Sarah Palin, is more desperate for attention. Either way, it seems like each are parasites . . feeding off each other with nothing to lose because there will be nothing to gain from their partnership.

Posted by: momof20yo | January 8, 2010 6:54 AM | Report abuse

Ddawd, that was an interesting link, for #6.

The atmospherics of #2 will be welcomed by most, IMO.
That is, the Prez should be seen as seriously engaged in jobs recovery when unemployment is in double digits. Failing to address that as a high priority - or seeming to so fail - is political suicide.

As to #3 and CC's article, it points to the ease with which public opinion can shift in hard times, and makes #2 especially politically relevant.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | January 8, 2010 6:50 AM | Report abuse

Republicans will declare moral victory in MA even if Brown loses by 30 points. There's no context for expectation here. That's fine. I don't think there's a swing voter out in Nevada who will think "OMG, Brown almost won in MA. I'd better vote Republican!"

Not really on topic, but if Chris C added a 6th topic, this could easily be one of them.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/07/AR2010010703699.html?hpid=topnews

"Steele comments have GOP aides pleading, 'Get him to stop'"

I'm not sure if this this is a sign of more internal division in the party or simply just a revolt against a leader who comes across time and time again as a buffoon.

I think it's the second, though. This doesn't seem to be a teabaggers vs moderates battle.

Posted by: DDAWD | January 8, 2010 6:27 AM | Report abuse

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