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High stakes, serious challenges for Obama's State of the Union speech

1. The political world turns to Capitol Hill tonight at 9 p.m. ET as President Obama delivers his first State of the Union address. (Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell -- a future member of the 2012 veepstakes for Republicans -- will deliver the Republican response.) The stakes for the president are considerable. He will speak just eight days after suffering the most significant political and policy setback of his first year in office when Republicans claimed a victory in a Massachusetts Senate special election that robbed Democrats of their 60-seat, filibuster-proof majority. That loss set off a panic among Democratic elected officials, an anxiety that has led to rumors of a bevy of retirements from members who now believe they simply can't win in the climate the administration has created. (While the animosity between some elements of the Democratic Congress and the White House has been papered-over to date, it slipped out a bit when retiring Rep. Marion Berry told his local newspaper that Obama had explained to him that 2010 wasn't 1994 for one simple reason: "You've got me.") Given that context, one of Obama's main challenges will be to assure Democrats that he understands the political peril they are in and he is moving to help them -- primarily by focusing almost exclusively on the economy and job creation particularly for the middle class. The proposals the White House has already previewed -- a three-year freeze on most domestic spending, more money for military families, a series of tax cuts and credits aimed at middle class families -- have a strong populist tint and White House aides have made clear in the day leading up to tonight's speech that the president will seek to make the case that he -- and Democrats by extension -- are standing up for the average American against Republicans and big business. Obama is not a populist by nature and may well struggle if he tries to deliver a campaign-style speech in a chamber where Republicans will be looking to make their opposition to his proposals known.

2. The Fix is joining the Post in flooding the zone in its coverage of the State of the Union speech tonight. Around noon, we'll have a viewer's guide post on the address -- giving you the guideposts to watch for during the president's address. Then, as we get closer to the speech at 9 p.m. -- too late! -- we will begin live Tweeting the proceedings both in this space and at "TheHyperFix." (You don't follow "TheHyperFix"?! Rectify that problem immediately. And, sign up to follow "TheFix" while you're at it. You won't regret it. Money back guarantee.) After the speech, we'll offer our first thoughts in this space on what we just saw and heard. The Post's Dan Balz and the old Fix will also be pre-gaming the speech and will return after the Republican response to offer some analysis of what we've just seen and heard. Our commentary and the speech itself will all be streamed live starting around 8:30 pm. Dig it!

3. Gov. Charlie Crist's (R) Senate bid had one of its worst days on Tuesday. First came a Quinnipiac University poll showing former state House Speaker Marco Rubio leading Crist 47 percent to 44 percent in their Republican primary race. The data marks an astonishing reversal of fortune; as recently as August, Crist was crushing Rubio 55 percent to 29 percent in the Q poll. Rubio's rise has been fueled by conservatives, whom he is winning 52 percent to 39 percent. Crist, on the other hand, has a 55 percent to 36 percent edge among liberal and moderate Republicans. As if the poll wasn't enough, the two candidates fourth quarter fundraising numbers were remarkably similar -- bad news for Crist. The governor, one of the most prolific cash-collecters in the country, brought in $2 million in the final three months of last year and ended 2009 with $7.5 million in the bank. Rubio, who had been nearly driven from the race due to his inability to keep within shouting distance of Crist on the fundraising front, brought in $1.75 million in the final three months of 2009 although he banked just $2 million. Fundraising success begets fundraising success and Rubio's near-parity with Crist in the last quarter coupled with the Q poll are sure to convince wavering donors that he is the momentum candidate. All that said, it does seem a bit premature to write Crist's political obituary. He retains a more than three-to-one cash advantage, a margin Crist is likely to try to exploit by going up on television well in advance of the August 24 primary to define Rubio as something short of the conservative hero some are currently casting him as.

4. Arizona Sen. John McCain isn't taking his challenge from former representative J.D. Hayworth lightly -- hammering the former congressman at every turn in an attempt to kill the primary challenge before it ever really begins. In a fundraising email sent to supporters earlier this week, McCain slammed for "a record of talking like a conservative but voting like a liberal on fiscal issues" and sought to link him to "Tom Delay's leadership team." (McCain echoed the attack on Hayworth's fiscal record in radio ads that ran on Hayworth's talk show earlier this month.) Hayworth also has considerable vulnerabilities on his connections to disgraced lobbyist Jack Abramoff, ties that were exploited by Rep. Harry Mitchell (D) in his successful race against Hayworth in 2006 and sure to be mined again by McCain. All that said, there's clearly a constituency for Hayworth within the most conservative elements of the Arizona Republican party who have never regarded McCain as a kindred spirit. And, Hayworth appears to have settled on his strategy: paint McCain as a nice guy who has overstayed his welcome. In an interview Tuesday on "Hardball", Hayworth told host Chris Matthews that McCain has "been in Washington too long." The former congressman also cast McCain as a "moderate who describes himself as a maverick" while describing him as a "commonsense, consistent conservative." The issue for Hayworth is whether there are enough conservatives to get him anywhere near a majority of the vote -- particularly when you consider that Minuteman Civil Defense Corps co-founder Chris Simcox is in the race and will take at least some portion of the extreme right vote from Hayworth. Because of McCain's status as the most recent presidential nominee of his party -- and his high profile status here in Washington -- Hayworth has a long way to go to prove he can oust an incumbent as entrenched (and feisty) as McCain.

5. House Democrats hoping to stem the flow of retirements in competitive seats breathed a big sigh of relief Tuesday with the news that Rep. Bart Stupak had decided against running for the open Michigan governorship this fall. "It is difficult for me to commit to pursuing a statewide gubernatorial campaign at this critical time," said Stupak. "The compressed time frame and fundraising requirements necessary to secure the Democratic nomination for governor would be very difficult for me to achieve without sacrificing some of my responsibilities in Washington, D.C." Stupak has held the Upper Peninsula (UP to those in the know) 1st district since 1992 and although President Obama carried it narrowly in 2008, George W. Bush carried it by seven points in 2004 and 2000. Stupak's decision brings only a small amount of clarity to the chaos on the Democratic side caused by Lt. Gov. John Cherry's (D) decision to bow out of the contest. State House Speaker Andy Dillon is seen as a likely candidate for the Democratic nomination; Lansing Mayor Virg Bernero continues to mull the race although most observers believe he will run and former state Treasurer Robert Bowman is drawing buzz from insiders in the state. Many national Democrats are waiting on Denise Ilitch, the daughter of the owner of the Detroit Red Wings and Detroit Tigers, to make up her mind -- believing that her profile as an outsider to the political process and massive personal wealth make her the party's best candidate. (A poll conducted by Democratic pollster Mark Mellman last week and obtained by the Fix shows Ilitch running even with the top Republican candidates; she took 31 percent to 30 percent for Oakland County Sheriff Mike Bouchard, 32 percent to 30 percent for state Attorney General Mike Cox and 32 percent to 33 percent for Rep. Pete Hoekstra.) Given the state of the Michigan economy and the discontent with outgoing Gov. Jennifer Granholm (D), it's not clear that the Democratic nomination is worth having.

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But thats the point, 37th. McCain has been conscilitory before. Nothing he does would surprise me. But the Health-Care agenda has been a Democratic (or more honestly Liberal) issue. One that conservatives have fought tooth and nail since the first time someone suggested it.
In this congress, Republicans have made it their mission to fight President Obama on everything he stands for. They have placed party over country, and moreover they have placed their opposition to the Democratic Party over country. Mitch McConnell has been the face of the party of NO. If Barack Obama asked for a resolution saying Kentucky has a good basketball team, McConnell would declare his loyalty to Louisville, and ask why the President feels it is his place to comment on sports. He is nothing but an obstructionist.

Posted by: elijah24 | January 27, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

elijah24


Yea - I say call McConnell and McCain in and get the 80% bill hammered out. - it would have to be a BIPARTISAN BILL.


You are making it "Obama's agenda" - all about votes for the democrats

Well, why would the Republicans be interested in that?

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Posted by: 37thand0street | January 27, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Here is how a "conservative" spending freeze works. first spend more than you can make in your entire life, "while cutting taxes". then increase that spending. Next quit your job. continue spending more and more.

Now we can discuss the notion of freezing 3% of the balance. That will fix it.

See how disciplined "conservatives" can be?

Posted by: drivl

Hmmmm......just like the bush administration. Oh, and you forgot, spend a trillion on two wars and never include the cost in your budget.

Amazing, liberals and conservatives, completely interchangeable in your statement. Nice try at making a point, drivltard, but you fail once again.

Posted by: jasperanselm | January 27, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

I don't "fear" anything or anyone but God Almighty. And, when it comes to weighing American LIVES vs. principles, I've ALWAYS said "screw the Geneva Convention" (and that the Constitution is not a suicide pact either). You started this by asking how it's not hypocritical, so I think I've answered that. If you now what to say it's a cop-out, be my guest. I'm done.

Posted by: JakeD | January 27, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Jake, what you've given me was a cop-out. it may be how you justify it to yourself, but it certainly doesnt make what appears to be conflicting positions on these two issues, any less hypocritical. Now if you are saying "screw the Geneva Convention" fine. That seems to be the right-wing position, and while I think it flies in the face of what makes us a great nation, It would at least make your positions slightly less contradictory. The fact is that Conservatives (not all but as a rule) are slaves to both the corporate overlords, and their fear of terrorism. This fear is leading our country down a very dangerous path. When Roosevelt said "The only thing we have to fear, is fear itself" it was more than a rally-cry. It was a warning against reactionary panic. Fear leads to bad decisions. It leads to a surrendering of principals. It leads to an tribalistic attutide of exclusion and even hate. The last 9 years, Roosevelts warning was proven to be true. The winners in our country have been those who have not shown fear. 2 groups: The corporations who brazenly ask for more more more, and the terrorists who made us sacrifice our values, in favor of a false sense of security. The question is how long before we reclaim ourselves, or fall victim to our fears.

Posted by: elijah24 | January 27, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse


I just find it amazing that there are Republican Senators going on tv interviews telling Obama to adhere to his campaign promise to be bipartisan.


TO BE FAIR: When did health care for the democrats start being something they were going to pound over the heads of the Republicans at election time - and cease to be actually caring about the people affected ????


This is the original sin of the democrats -


If Obama and the democrats really cared about the health care of the people, they would take the 80% deal that McConnell and McCain are talking about.


Instead, Obama and the democrats are obsessed with creating an entitlements programs which gives them an electoral advantage - that is all they want - THIS CENTRAL REALITY OF THE DEMOCRATS HAS BEEN LAID BARE.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | January 27, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

37th, even if you would believe that McConnell would vote yea on any part of the Presidents agenda, do you really think he would be in favor of regulating ANYTHING? I don't even think he's in favor of umpires at a baseball game.

Posted by: elijah24 | January 27, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

elijah24:

Enemy combatants do NOT get Constitutional rights, regardless of what the Geneva Convention says. I have explained my position for why that's not hypocritical to providing Constitutional rights to normal criminals. If you don't want to accept that, fine by me.

Posted by: JakeD | January 27, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Senator McConnell and Senator McCain both say that the Republicans will agree to 80% of the health care bill - which will probably center on regulation of the health insurance companies to curb the worst abuses.


Obama has to be thinking about that.


Why not take that deal? This health care bill would be better than no health care bill.


Obama has to realize now that the new taxes and the new spending in the massive health care bills would simply be horrible for the economy.


The country just may have been saved by the voters of Massachusetts.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | January 27, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

The Quirin case, however, does not stand for the proposition that detainees may be held incommunicado and denied access to counsel; the defendants in Quirin were able to seek review and they were represented by counsel. In Quirin,
-Report by the American Bar Association

In addition to this very good point, Quirin predates the Geneva Convention by 7 years. And more recently the Supreme Court (almost the same one that just made corporations, people) ruled in the case of Hamdan v. Rumsfeld, that the Geneva Convention does in fact apply to detainees in the war on terror, and that their military tribunals are a violation of international law.
Therefore, Ex parte Quirin is irrelevant in this discussion. Care to take another swing?

Posted by: elijah24 | January 27, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Marion Berry (D-ARK)decides not to run because he is afraid of losing a competitive race. Rep. Berry should do his district a favor and not run. One thing that this average American is mad about is the sense of entitlement that our elected leaders (aka ruling class) exhibits. That is why Sen. Brown's election in Massachusetts was so sensational was the entitlement candidate lost.

Posted by: rogden71 | January 27, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

that fake smile glued to her mug

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Be fair. she will be in the shop all afternoon getting that adjusted properly. the main problem seems to be in not overdoing the eye bulge at the same time.

Posted by: drivl | January 27, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

elijah24:

Read "Ex parte Quirin" to correct your mistaken views of our history and laws.

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=317&invol=1

Posted by: JakeD | January 27, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

thehamptons1:

I won't be watching either (easier to simply read the transcript later ; )

Posted by: JakeD | January 27, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Jake, since this countries inception, we have given the presumption of innocence to the accused. Therefore, until they are proven guilty in a court of law, they are NOT to be considered enemies. They are merely accused. Try again please.

Posted by: elijah24 | January 27, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

I can't watch the speech tonight because I can't set for an hour watching Pelosi drool all over herself, and that fake smile glued to her mug. To her right will be "lonesome" Joe trying to ignore her.

The picture is frozen in my mind. Obama and two teleprompters, Pukelosi over one shoulder and Joe napping over the other.

Posted by: thehamptons1 | January 27, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Tonight's Barack Obama Stand-Up Comedy Act will have the same Teleprompters set up that he had on 1/19/10 at the Falls Church, Va. Graham Road Elementary School, talking to the 6th graders. He'll have the same 6th grade level educated live audience of union goons and racist black tribal members, wildly cheering his every word, put there by the Democrap Socialist Party to give the impression that Obama, the "messiah", is worshipped and adored by everyone in America. And he'll have stacked the deck with select reporters and journalists friendly to his agenda, who'll ask him only soft-ball questions.
The fact is that this incompetent bulls*** artist hasn't got a clue what he's doing, and is simply following the Saul Alinski books agenda "Rules for Radicals", to turn our country into another Socialist Communist "Workers Paradise".
There's hope though for American's who still believe in our Constutional system of government, as our founding fathers have set it up.
If the people of Va., N.J., and Mass. have figured out that Barack Obama and the Democrap Socialist Communist Party are leading them down the garden path to control and enslave them--a la North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, and the former Communist countries of the USSR--then the rest of America's states can too.

Posted by: armpeg | January 27, 2010 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Here is how a liberal spending freeze works. first spend more than you can make in your entire life. then increase that spending. Next quit your job. continue spending more and more.

Now we can discuss the notion of freezing 3% of the balance. That will fix it.

See how disciplined liberals can be?

Posted by: drivl | January 27, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

People need to remember one thing while watching the speech tonite. It is, Obama truly believes the end justifies the means. Therefore, promises mean nothing to him as long as he is promoting his agenda to "fundamentally transform America".

Candidate Obama made several promises to us that sounded so good we couldn't help but elect him. Some were, transparency, bringing us together, no more earmarks, no more back room deals, no new taxes for those making less than $250,000, get out of Iraq and Afghanistan strategy, Gitmo, blau, blau blau....

These were documented promises and he has no remorse for breaking them. The end justifies the means!

Posted by: thehamptons1 | January 27, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

I see lots of finger pointing as usual in the comments here. Simple fact is we have out of control spending on both sides of the isle in congress. Of course we all know that Democrats like to tax and spend but so do 98% of Republicans(Neo-Cons)!! This Congress has been spending the USA into oblivion for decades and now we have the most bloated government and economic deficit in American history!! If a spending freeze is to be considered, it should be considered across the board including DOD!! In reality a freeze is not even enough. Cuts and outright elimination of some programs and agencies should take place. Ron Paul warned that unless we made hard choices about cutting expenditures, we would eventually find ourselves, where we are today...He has been saying it for decades!! Now some people are finally beginning to listen!!

Posted by: sarasota1 | January 27, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Everyone is going to forget this State of the Union - there is basically little Obama can say given the state of chaos he and the administration is in.


Obama has only himself to blame.


There was never a plan B with Obama - it was always "health care or we die" which is a silly silly way to look at things.


The only way Obama can make this address memorable is to make a MISTAKE - some crazy gaffe or some policy mistake that no one can remember.

Why are people saying this is his first, it is his second State of the Union, and the third time he addressed Congress - because he was there in September.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | January 27, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Libs will be emotionally exhausted tomorrow morning as Bo delivers yet another tidal wave of emotion to describe his “accomplishments” in tonight’s huge ego fest. Underneath the exhaustion will be a nagging feeling in the soul that is felt when one doesn’t have the self respect and discernment to reject the lies. The rationalization will be that Barry is a good man or at least he makes us feel good so we can succumb to the enslavement of his philosophies. Ask yourself as an American what has Barry done for freedom?

Posted by: leapin | January 27, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Ah, how refreshing, the return of the drivltard.

His mom must have gone to work so he could use her computer.

Posted by: jasperanselm | January 27, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse

I forgot the most fmaous barry phrase of all:

It's not about me ....

(used by people who only think of themselves)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

The New York Times asks, “Are the missteps at the White House rooted in message or substance?”

The question is not quite right. A better one is: Was there ever substance behind the message? Every talking point Barack Obama has attempted to turn into policy went to dust in his hands. His missteps came from thinking that message is substance.

The funny thing is that the White House plans to make a comeback by digging in on the message front. The Times reports on tonight’s State of the Union address: “The speech will be punctuated with a handful of new ideas — calling for a spending freeze on a portion of the domestic budget — but aides said it would largely be an opportunity for Mr. Obama to return to the proposals that swept him into office.”

What proposals? To close Gitmo, ram through universal health care, rally against Wall Street, dismantle the War on Terror, apologize for America’s sins at every turn, and blame George W. Bush for everything? He can’t very well “return to” the bad ideas he’s held fast to all along. The problem is that what swept him into office is exactly what fails as policy: vague, naive, left-wing children’s stories.

The president has tried to camouflage his policy failings in half-commitments and contradictions. This tactic has put Obama in a deeper hole than people are acknowledging. He now has nowhere to go, because in his effort to be politically elusive, he’s already been everywhere. Consider the range of criticisms thrown his way. He’s been a cozy friend of big business, an enemy of capitalism, an American apologist, an American war-monger, a populist, and an elitist. The country is sick of the Man of a Thousand Political Disguises.

and zero substance.

Posted by: drivl | January 27, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

drivl:

"Top Democrats at war -- with each other"

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0110/32053.html

Posted by: JakeD | January 27, 2010 12:23 PM | Report abuse

The wages of arrogance:

Former U.S. Rep. Pat Toomey has opened up a 14-point lead among likely voters in his bid to deny U.S. Sen. Arlen Specter a sixth term, according to the latest Daily News/Franklin & Marshall Poll.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

So what are the Democrat’s rewards thus far? Check out these headlines:

Poll: Americans glad Dems lost supermajority

Is The Senate Also In Play?

CNN Poll: 3 of 4 Americans say much of stimulus money wasted

Republicans Pull Ahead on Generic Ballot
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re: two teleprompters tonight

I would have thought he could have at least memorized that!

Watch for the phrases:

Let me be perfectly clear.....

(the intro used by liars to obfuscate)

Pulled back from the brink.....

(the excuse used to justify big government intrusion where it doesn't belong)

Posted by: drivl | January 27, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Obama will have a much harder second year. The public actually has a memory. His words hold zero value.

Posted by: Hembo | January 27, 2010 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Libs are turning on each other already:

What is Mr. Obama’s excuse for crushing the hopes of his supporters and forfeiting the argument to his enemies? He cannot cite rising interest rates or consumer price indexes to prove that the deficit should suddenly become his top priority. Inflation and interest rates remain reasonably stable so far—and so does stubborn unemployment, despite signs that the recession has ended. The only thing that has changed since last year’s State of the Union address is the political situation confronting the president, to which he now responds with meek resignation.

There is no such thing as “a really good one-term president.” A really good president sticks to principle, fights for progressive policy, improves people’s lives and wins reelection. After one year, that is what Americans still expect of Mr. Obama. He has no right to disappoint them.
Joe conason

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Did they learn that they’d better slow down their freight train of extremely left leaning policies? Did they learn that with 58% of Americans standing in opposition to Obamcare they’d better reassess their direction? Have they learned from an entire year of raucous healthcare townhalls, multiple loses at the polls, and tea party protests that brought out over a million people that they might be agitating the American people?

Nope.

Looks like the lesson they’ve learned is that they have to pass their bad policies faster before they really lose power in the November midterm elections. It seems that a certain self-righteous arrogance is what we are seeing from Democrats instead of an acknowledgment that the voters have chastised them in Virginia, New Jersey, and now blue, blue Massachusetts. Democrats have not learned that they’d better listen to the voters but instead have decided that they better move on their agenda even faster. It’s hubris that they’ve assumed not a mien of humbleness


Posted by: drivl | January 27, 2010 12:14 PM | Report abuse

elijah24:

Because one is an enemy and the other is not.

Posted by: JakeD | January 27, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

On the eve of his State of the Union address, Barack Obama said he would “rather be a really good one-term president than a mediocre two-term president.” But his proposal to freeze domestic spending is exactly the kind of policy that results in four years of stagnation—rewarded by an election defeat at the hands of dispirited and disillusioned voters. If he continues to surrender his mandate, he could become a mediocre one-term president.

In Mr. Obama’s remark to ABC News, there was a tone of self-righteous vanity, as if he were suggesting that he is already somehow exceeding his two predecessors, each of whom served two terms. He has yet to display the political moxie of either Bill Clinton or George W. Bush, both presidents who managed to push through much of their agenda—for better and worse—regardless of the circumstances they faced. By contrast, Mr. Obama has too often allowed his priorities to languish and his supporters to despair in a void of “bipartisanship.”

Posted by: drivl | January 27, 2010 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Obama's stage setup will include two teleprompters tonight. On his left, there will be one that says "BLAME." On his right, will be another that says "BUSH." They will remain that way throughout his entire speech.

Posted by: Hembo | January 27, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse

No, Hembo. That would be SuzyCcup. Love your new sign-in.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | January 27, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

The President should tell us we need more American companies sending American jobs to other nations, and the banks buying and trading more Wall Street paper instead of lending to fix the economy.

These are the accepted policies of the President and his administration, and he should support them in his speech.

Posted by: bsallamack | January 27, 2010 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Jake, please explain to me how it is not hypocritical to defend the rights of a corporation, which is not a person, to spend their unlimited money to affect elections, and legislation, but not to allow a trial by jury, with legal counsel to a human being who's life is on the line to a foreigner charged with terrorist acts?

Posted by: elijah24 | January 27, 2010 11:56 AM | Report abuse

who's to blame? bush?

Progressives’ anger grows against
White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel
Digitally disadvantaged dirt-digger dissed as liberals call him “a cowardly, petty, small-minded thug.”

Posted by: drivl | January 27, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Republicans are laughing all the way from Boston to the US Senate. all the way to the governors mansion in VA and NJ.

going to be chuckling about poor dingy harry, the takeover of both the VP and present ident's home state senate seats. a tidal wave in the house. Kicking Specter to the curb. knocking out Blanche.


We will be laughing, Libs wil be sobbing about what a mess the "Messiah" made of their prospects.

Nanncy and Harry were able to ruin things under cover of a Repub leader. Now there is no camoflauge.

Posted by: drivl | January 27, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

mark_in_austin or MerrillFrank:

Perhaps you need to study the history of the First Amendment and importance of political free speech. There are plenty of other laws preventing real crimes / terrorists like al Qaeda from running infomercials (if you really think they would actually try doing that, maybe then we could finally catch bin Ladin ; )

Posted by: JakeD | January 27, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

This got me thinking. What if Al Queda or some terrorist front group became a corporation either in the US or overseas say via a Saudi or Dubai fronted company. They could fund ads, campaigns and candidates with little recourse. What would the pro "Citizens United" folks such as George Will and Mitch McConnell say about that or would they just call it freedom.

If you self identified conservatives think "Citizens United" breaks in your favor, you too have missed the signal.

What happens when the slaughterhouse interests, the domestic petroleum drillers, Silicon Valley, and large manufacturers join agricorps in campaigning for immigration reform that will bring a tidal wave of legalized cheap labor to America? No limits on funding means that they can overwhelm the air waves with "infomercials" while funding the ads of friendlies and funding oppo ads against their unfriendlies,

Issue after issue will work like this. Heck, if the drug industry can influence Rx buying by advertising Rx meds to the general public, there is no limit to this.


Posted by: mark_in_austin

Posted by: MerrillFrank | January 27, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Dearest moonbut, I will continue to treasure the coming three years of pathetically ignorant comments from you regarding OUR president and I especially look forward to his re-election after you idiots nominate Sarah Palin to run against him in 2012. You are your own worst enemy and the majority of this country that voted against you in the last two elections....still laughs at you.

Posted by: jasperanselm | January 27, 2010 11:14 AM | Report abuse

As preparation for the "State of the Union" go, the best, again, is in the piece that reads....."The only economic success of this administration for 2009 is the HealthCare bill – yes, in the sense....."

The Blogger at http://www.robbingamerica.blogspot.com

gives you the funny but true preview and analysis for tonight. You don't even have to watch it!

Posted by: JohnGalt9 | January 27, 2010 11:03 AM | Report abuse

well said jasperanselm!

together we have taken moonbat to the woodshed. I feel confident he will slink away in shame and renounce commenting on The Fix forever.


I think it was the same method Barry used to motivate Iran, n Korea, Syria et al. A German magazine announced Iran will have a bomb this year and new missiles to deliver it. N Korea is busy testing new long range missiles today. Syria was just last week discovered to be "more difficult" than Barry thought.

Just another day of liberal spinelessness.

Please like me. I'm Barry from Hawaii. I'm sorry for everything. End of effort.

Posted by: Moonbat | January 27, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

oh well. moonbat proceeds without shame. He is sort of useful. We need to know how the enemy thinks. Is "thinks" correct?

Posted by: miglefitz | January 27, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: margaretmeyers | January 27, 2010 10:47 AM


You must be a wrinkled, tight-butt, little old lady peering out over reading glasses, dreaming about winning the lottery so you can afford some botox injections? Am I right?

Posted by: Hembo | January 27, 2010 10:59 AM | Report abuse

"What about the list used by Chris Fox?

Posted by: JakeD | January 27, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse"

Chris Fox has never used multiple names at the same time. Only a really sick, pathetic, no-life loser would do that. QED.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | January 27, 2010 10:59 AM | Report abuse

AndyR3:
>I heard that about britain on NPR, so I don't know what exactly how the law is written<

I think NPR is rather confused. I know of no such law, giving shareholders a veto on political statements.

All political contributions must be strictly accounted for, political expenditure is very strictly controlled (except at national level), and we have a bar on political advertising on TV.

So, the Citizens United situation just wouldn't happen here (and if it did, there would be a huge negative response from the electorate).

DC (in UK)

Posted by: strum | January 27, 2010 10:58 AM | Report abuse

(News item: Obama-Biden to Unveil High-Speed Rail Project)


Mr. President: How about first boarding the FREEDOM TRAIN?

RESTORING THE RULE OF LAW IN AMERICA MUST BE JOB #1.

• A Job Without Justice Is Slavery by Another Name.

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NOW IT'S OBAMA'S GESTAPO USA. WHEN WILL TEAM OBAMA ACT?

See: Poynter.org (Journalism Groups -- Reporting):

• "U.S. Silently Tortures Americans with Cell Tower Microwaves"
• "Gestapo USA: Fed-Funded Vigilante Network Terrorizes America"
• "U.S. Uses CBS News to Cover Up Microwave Cell Tower Torture?"

http://www.poynter.org/subject.asp?id=2 OR:
http://NowPublic.com/scrivener (see "stories" list)

Posted by: scrivener50 | January 27, 2010 10:57 AM | Report abuse

LOL Mrs. Ted Haggard thinks he is "no longer gay." BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/35097032#35097032

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | January 27, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

LOL Mrs. Ted Haggard thinks he is "no longer gay." BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/35097032#35097032

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | January 27, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse


do you believe your posts exhibit some high level of education or intelligence?

Liberals also think they are frugal and exhibit strength and courage to our enemies.

Liberals think that empty promises are just fine.

Liberals think the government owes you a house, a car, a job, a college education and a doctor. All free.

Liberals think the gas that trees breath is poison.

Liberals think experience and decision skills are overrated in an executive.

Liberals aren't too bright.

Posted by: Moonbat | January 27, 2010 10:50 AM | Report abuse

AndyR3, I thought we were calling him the Centerfold from Massachusetts or the Senator from Cosmopolitan.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | January 27, 2010 10:47 AM | Report abuse

will everything Obama talks about tonight be "unprecedented" and "historic"

Posted by: Hembo | January 27, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

well said jasperanselm!

together we have taken moonbat to the woodshed. I feel confident he will slink away in shame and renounce commenting on The Fix forever.

Posted by: miglefitz | January 27, 2010 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Talk is cheap. Except when Obama is speaking. Then we all pay a fortune.

Posted by: Hembo | January 27, 2010 10:40 AM | Report abuse

Hey moonbut, I'm just enjoying calling you out. You and your postings are pathetic but at least you're putting that elementary school education to work for you.

Posted by: jasperanselm | January 27, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

yo moonbat!

are we having some sort of identity crisis here? the infallible online Urban Dictionary defines "moonbat" as: "An unthinking or insane leftist -- in other words, most modern leftists."

your posts reveal that you fit perfectly the definition of a "wing-nut": An outspoken, irrational person with deeply-held, nominally conservative, political views. A person who chooses on principle to be flagrantly ignorant. A "right-wing nut".

Posted by: miglefitz | January 27, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Mark, I heard that about britain on NPR, so I don't know what exactly how the law is written. The other thing I guess is to amend the constitution to say that corporate or orginizations are not covered under the first amendment, although I bet that would be significantly more difficult to do.

Posted by: AndyR3 | January 27, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Whoever is paying this guy to pollute this blog is definitely getting ripped off. He's such an idiot that no-one pays attention to him.


Seems like you do loser.

And btw there is more than one person who recognizes the utter failure of liberal governance. In fact anyone with a brain now does, posters on this thread obviously excluded.

I guess libs have been reduced to insulting other posters ONLY.

Posted by: Moonbat | January 27, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

koolkat_1960:

What about the list used by Chris Fox?

Posted by: JakeD | January 27, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

The WORST thing the GOP members of congress could do tonight is have a repeat of the 'you lie' comment.

Posted by: AndyR3 | January 27, 2010 8:14 AM


The betting pool for tonight is actually on which DEMOCRAT will yell out "You lie."

Posted by: Hembo | January 27, 2010 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Add Hembo to the list of aliases used by rightwingnut troll Ace McNumbnuts.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | January 27, 2010 10:15 AM | Report abuse

Is Fox carrying the speech?

Posted by: JakeD | January 27, 2010 10:05 AM | Report abuse

In our car travels back East, from Virginia to Maine, it amazes me the differences in highways. Two lanes each way when we have SIX out here?! That would immediately reduce congestion. Go McDonnell!

Posted by: JakeD | January 27, 2010 9:59 AM | Report abuse

The dems say that Obama has lost his campaign magic. Magic?? It was an illusion.

Posted by: Hembo | January 27, 2010 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Let's count how many times the gifted one refers to himself tonight. Make sure your calculator can display enough digits.

Posted by: Hembo | January 27, 2010 9:54 AM | Report abuse

I see moonbat has decided not to be drivltard today. Can't say that's an improvement.

New day, same nonsense. Looks like he created another name though, Hembo.

Whoever is paying this guy to pollute this blog is definitely getting ripped off. He's such an idiot that no-one pays attention to him.

Posted by: jasperanselm | January 27, 2010 9:48 AM | Report abuse

Everytime Barry opens his mouth the recovery stalls. He has turned a downturn into a crisis with his meddling.

I predict recovery right around nov 2012. Patience indeed.

Posted by: Moonbat | January 27, 2010 9:43 AM | Report abuse

The 2009 recession is going to require a lot of voter patience and a lot of intelligent governance.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | January 27, 2010 8:39 AM


You're contradicting yourself. Obama and "intelligent governance?" You got to be kidding. Take your meds!

Posted by: Hembo | January 27, 2010 9:33 AM | Report abuse

The democrats have hitched their wagon to a complete loser and buffoon. It doesn't make a bit of difference what Obama says tonight, with one exception - he apologies to the country and offers his resignation. Now that would be a great speech!

Posted by: Hembo | January 27, 2010 9:25 AM | Report abuse

virginianforfreedom, when I read that passage by Jefferson I ascribe the attributes the other way around.

Obama: "Those who identify themselves with the people, have confidence in them, cherish and consider them as the most honest and safe...”
Right Wing: "Those who fear and distrust the people, and wish to draw all powers from them into the hands of the higher classes."

:-)

Posted by: margaretmeyers | January 27, 2010 9:07 AM | Report abuse

sliowa, thank you for that thoughtful reply. I take tour point about most businesses, most of the time, wanting not to be bothered, and not wanting to alienate stockholders, customers, or the general public. That provides some limited comfort.
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About the pharm industry ads to the public: I see the analogies as public=voters and legislators = MDs.
I do not think the fact that there is a niche for "new" drugs affects the analogy.
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Andy, is there a proposal to limit political ads by corps to those that have had shareholder approval? Do you have a link to an article? The UK has no 1st A, but I will read their statute at some point.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | January 27, 2010 8:47 AM | Report abuse

Tonight, Americans will witness two distinct and contrasting philosophies of government: President Barack Obama’s liberal/progressive philosophy versus Virginia Governor Bob McDonnell’s conservative philosophy.

These two distinct and contrasting philosophies were described a long time ago (1824) by Thomas Jefferson when he wrote in a letter to Henry Lee:

"Men by their constitutions are naturally divided into two parties:
“1. Those who fear and distrust the people, and wish to draw all powers from them into the hands of the higher classes. (Obama/liberals/progressives)
“2. Those who identify themselves with the people, have confidence in them, cherish and consider them as the most honest and safe...” (McDonnell/conservatives)

I’m betting that the vast majority of Americans who understand our history and our Constitution will eventually demonstrate on Election Day 2010 and 2012 that President Obama’s philosophy of government just cannot, and will not, ever be successful here in our special country.

Posted by: VirginianforFreedom | January 27, 2010 8:46 AM | Report abuse

"tonights speach will have three themes, Jobs, Patience, and 'I am here to fight for you'. AndyR3"

The patience thing is what amazes me. The same voter who is willing to accept that withdrawing from Bush's Middle East wars will take 3 to 5 years cannot accept that a recession as serious as this one cannot be recovered from in ONE year.

Here is a fabulous graph of unemployment in our recessions since WW II
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_pMscxxELHEg/S0c1SpJEkNI/AAAAAAAAHMs/lPW1FP1zchE/s1600-h/EmploymentRecessionsDec.jpg
If you look at the 2001 recession, you can see that it took 46 months to recover from the 2% increase in unemployment that recession caused. The 2007 recession is going to require a lot of voter patience and a lot of intelligent governance.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | January 27, 2010 8:39 AM | Report abuse

Mark in Austin,

I do share your concern over the recent Supreme Court decision. I do think more money will flow, but money typically flows in the pockets of the winners (business do not want to support losers). Consequently, this decision will most likely help to keep those in power with power. I do not share your alarmist concern since most businesses would rather be left alone. I have worked in both private and public sectors. During my tenure at DuPont, the goal was mainly to build a positive image before “Citizens United” as like to call them. While at DuPont, there were technologies that would protect our patients on GMO plants, but the technology was not pursued due to fear of public reaction and how certain environmental groups would position the technology. The decision to not follow-up on the technology was driven by the fear of losing positive public standing with “Citizen United.” The technology I am referring to are suicide genes in GMO crops. However, companies like DuPont do support certain types of reform and legislation and those are the ones that keep them a leg up on the competition.

You reference to the pharmaceutical commercials is not entirely accurate. The reality in the pharmaceutical world and other companies that depend on patients is first to market 80% of the market. The overload of pharmaceuticals commercials is to break into the market with the same chemistry (i.e., statin drugs are one example).

Posted by: sliowa1 | January 27, 2010 8:20 AM | Report abuse

CC, this comment caught my eye,
"Republicans will be looking to make their opposition to his proposals known"

The WORST thing the GOP members of congress could do tonight is have a repeat of the 'you lie' comment. If something like that happens then it will show the American people that the GOP are a bunch of spoiled children who dont' know how to behave themselves in civil society. The same goes for signs or jeering. I am actually hoping they do something that stupid, since I think it will lean most viewers towards Obama and his message.

Posted by: AndyR3 | January 27, 2010 8:14 AM | Report abuse

Mark, I completely agree that the corporate "citizens united" case will have serious ramifications on our democracy if it goes unanswered, but from what I have heard and read it sounds like both sides have already started working on a way to limit the corporate influences by either requiring that stock holders approve of all messages and expenditures (like Britain does), or that the company that funds the ads must put their name on it like politicians have to. I would be happier with the first option, although I would want it to be 'american citizen' stock holders. The thing about this is that people like Fidelity, State Street, and other investment banks own significant stakes in most big companies and if you could convince them to always vote no then companies would be stuck and wouldn't be able to run ads.

I expect that Obama will address this early and will make a very forceful statement that something needs to be passed in the next two months.

Also parker, tonights speach will have three themes, Jobs, Patience, and 'I am here to fight for you'. I also bet that he will address Healthcare directly and tell us what he is planning on doing.

Posted by: AndyR3 | January 27, 2010 8:09 AM | Report abuse

There must be a simple plan for tonight's speech: Jobs, jobs, jobs. Americans want cash back in their wallets and will continue to desert Obama until the unemployment rate goes down.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: parkerfl1 | January 27, 2010 7:50 AM | Report abuse

BULLETIN TO OBAMA: RESTORING RULE OF LAW MUST BE JOB #1

• A job without justice is slavery by another name.

The pervasive surveillance, community watch vigilante terrorism, slander, financial sabotage -- and physical torture and impairment of THOUSANDS of unconstitutionally "targeted" Americans continues.

And the Obama administration now is fully aware -- and complicit in Bush-legacy programs of ideologically-driven personal destruction.

NOW IT'S OBAMA'S GESTAPO USA. WHEN WILL TEAM OBAMA ACT?

See: Poynter.org (Journalism Groups -- Reporting):

• "U.S. Silently Tortures Americans with Cell Tower Microwaves"
• "Gestapo USA: Fed-Funded Vigilante Network Terrorizes America"
• "U.S. Uses CBS News to Cover Up Microwave Cell Tower Torture?"

http://www.poynter.org/subject.asp?id=2 OR:
http://NowPublic.com/scrivener (see "stories" list)

Posted by: scrivener50 | January 27, 2010 7:48 AM | Report abuse

psttt..wash po

why not assign 1 reporter to watch the speech live and another to

Analyzing Obamaspeak tonight......
a new approach

Obama’s narcissistic profile mandates 3 consistent themes of Obamaspeak at tonight’s State of the Union speech:

1. Repression–simply blankly deny the truth, no matter how obvious or even if caught on video

2. Rationalization-Admit but use the fault as proof of his zeal

3. Projection-Obama will attribute to others the motives and attitudes he refuses to admit in himself

The Obama narcissistic profile has been previously posted and more details will be provided weekly.

So to test the profile:

A. Tivo or record the State of the Union,

B. Do NOT watch the speech until you have READ the speech
Hopefully the Wash Po will have the ttranscript, unless they are embarrassed then check the NYT

C. Analyze 1-3 above

Posted by: ProCounsel | January 27, 2010 7:40 AM | Report abuse

I don't remember who it is on here who is so enamored with Marco Rubio, but for anyone who is, I have an honest question. You have a legitimate presidential contender in Gov. Crist. Probably the only one in your party right now. Why are you weakening him by supporting his primary opponent? Do you really think Sarah Palin or Mitt Romney has an honest shot?

Posted by: elijah24 | January 27, 2010 7:40 AM | Report abuse

Response from the WH: we hear you, you love us.

Posted by: Moonbat | January 27, 2010 7:33 AM | Report abuse

If you self identified conservatives think "Citizens United" breaks in your favor, you too have missed the signal.

What happens when the slaughterhouse interests, the domestic petroleum drillers, Silicon Valley, and large manufacturers join agricorps in campaigning for immigration reform that will bring a tidal wave of legalized cheap labor to America? No limits on funding means that they can overwhelm the air waves with "infomercials" while funding the ads of friendlies and funding oppo ads against their unfriendlies,

Issue after issue will work like this. Heck, if the drug industry can influence Rx buying by advertising Rx meds to the general public, there is no limit to this.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | January 27, 2010 7:24 AM | Report abuse

I continue to think that Brown, McD, and Christie were the better campaigners or candidates by a wide margin in their races. As an indie I would have voted for Christie or the the third party guy in NJ, and Brown in MA. I might have not voted in VA since both guys did not seriously address VA's fiscal and transportation issues. I will vote against Goodhair - twice, if he beats KBH in the primary - b/c of who he is and what he has done to TX - and that vote, or my hypothetical vote in another state would have nothing to do with BHO or the 'party". I would poll as one who approves of BHO, I am sure, regardless of my potential R votes in state elections.

I am interested in BHO's speech tonight, but I do not think it or the recent elections I cited are very important. They are blips in time.

What are not blips?

I do think the "Citizens United" case is dominant important. I do think getting a grip on the jobs issue, to the extent government can do that, is very important. I do think our now steady foreign policy is very important.

Unfortunately, "Citizens United" will drastically change the landscape as candidates chase the free money that "only" will cause them to sell out on one or two issues, each. All candidates will do this for any office where they have a chance of winning. If BHO cannot get a 5th Justice who will revisit and overturn this decision he and the next president will be limited to affecting foreign policy while Congress begins to look like the Parliament of a banana republic. The perception of the merger of corporate culture and the state exists in the eyes of liberals today. It will become a universal perception in my lifetime if this case stands.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | January 27, 2010 6:37 AM | Report abuse

I hear McDonnell is going to unveil his big transportation plan tonight, the one that is going to transform Virginia's roadways and be paid for in a really great way .... wait... he isn't? He doesn't have one?

Posted by: margaretmeyers | January 27, 2010 6:35 AM | Report abuse

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