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Sarah Palin announces her 2010 target list

1. Former Alaska governor Sarah Palin named 20 Democratic-held seats as top targets for her grassroots followers in a Facebook post late Tuesday night. The seats, all of which were carried by Sen. John McCain (Ariz.) in 2008, are all represented by Democratic members who voted for President Obama's health care plan on Sunday. (The full list of Palin targets is at the bottom of this item.)

"Come November, we're going to print pink slips for Members of Congress as fast as they've been printing money," promised Palin. Aside from urging her online army to work to defeat the 20 Democrats listed, Palin will endorse donate and possibly make campaign stops for Republican candidates in the districts, according to a source close to the former governor. The source noted that Palin can also be of considerable help in the online world as well, given her considerable network of engaged supporters, pointing to Palin's endorsement of Sean Duffy, a Wisconsin congressional candidate as evidence. ("It was like a 'Game On!' moment," Duffy said of the impact of the Palin endorsement on his campaign.)

The unveiling of Palin's first coordinated target list comes as she prepares to hit the campaign trail in earnest for the first time since her 2008 vice presidential bid. On Friday, Palin will stump in Tucson for her former running mate, Sen. John McCain, and on Saturday the duo will be in Mesa. McCain faces a primary challenge from his ideological right from former representative J.D. Hayworth (R).

Later in the weekend, Palin will headline a Tea Party gathering in the tiny town of Searchlight, Nev., the home of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. It will be the second major Tea Party event of the year for Palin; she was the keynote speaker of the first ever national Tea Party convention in Nashville last month.

She is also scheduled to campaign for Minnesota Rep. Michelle Bachmann (R) on April 7, will travel to New Orleans to speak to the Southern Republican Leadership Conference on April 9 and will head to Boston for another tea party rally on the 14th.

The Palin target districts: Arkansas' 2nd, Arizona's 1st, Arizona's 5th, Arizona's 8th, Colorado's 3rd, Colorado's 4th, Florida's 2nd, Florida's 24th, Indiana's 8th, Indiana's 9th, North Dakota at-large, Ohio's 6th, Ohio's 16th, Pennsylvania's 3rd, Pennsylvania's 10th, South Carolina's 5th, Tennessee's 6th, Virginia's 5th, West Virginia's 1st and West Virginia's 3rd.

ALSO CLICK: Former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney's (R-Mass.) appearance on "Larry King Live" to talk health care.

2. The Democratic National Committee will spend more than $1 million on a combination of television and radio ads in nearly three dozen House districts aimed at seizing the momentum gained from the passage of President Obama's health care plan on Sunday night.

Twenty-five Democrats who supported the bill -- including Reps. John Boccieri (Ohio), Dennis Cardoza (Calif.), Brad Ellsworth (Ind.), Paul Hodes (N.H.), Tim Walz (Minn.), Bob Etheridge (N.C.), Tom Perriello (Va.), Leonard Boswell (Iowa), Betsy Markey (Colo.) and Gerry Connolly (Va.) -- will get 30- second "thank you" television ads.

Ten Republicans will be targeted with 60 second radio ads "slamming them for [their] votes against and pinching them on repeal," said a party source briefed on the buy. Among the GOP targets will be: Reps. Mark Kirk (Ill.), Jim Gerlach (Pa.), Dave Reichert (Wash.) and Joseph Cao (La.).

The DNC ads come on top of a similar seven-figure television ad buy by Health Care for America Now (HCAN) and the American Federation of State County and Municipal Employees in 14 Democratic-held districts.

The ads are the leading edge of an attempt to win back public opinion on the bill, which had been trending against Democrats prior to passage. "The worm has turned on this thing," said the party source, pointing to new Gallup numbers showing 49 percent calling passage of the bill a good thing. "Reform is a net positive with the American people."

3. The recently-passed health care bill is rapidly becoming a major point of contention in advance of the May 18 Democratic Senate primary in Kentucky with state Attorney General Jack Conway and Lt. Gov. Dan Mongiardo trading charges and counter-charges about who supported the bill when and why.

Conway released a Web video produced by Mandy Grunwald on Tuesday in which Mongiardo's past public comment that Congress should "stop and start over" on health care is spliced into similar comments made by leading Republicans including Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.). In an accompanying fundraising pitch, Conway asks, "Does Kentucky want a politician like Mongiardo who put scoring political points above all else?"

Not to be outdone, Mongiardo's side quickly shot back that Conway had flip-flopped on the health care bill over the weekend -- withholding a commitment to the legislation on Saturday before heartily endorsing it on Sunday. "I guess it's okay for Conway to have concerns about the bill on the eve of passage but not Daniel Mongiardo," said campaign manager Kim Geveden. "Conway is acting more and more like a typical Washington politician."

It's not entirely clear which man won the health care exchange (heyooo -- health care policy joke!) but the back and forth is evidence of the import both candidates attach to the issue. Keep an eye to see how each man plays it on heath care in the coming days and whether/how it impacts the primary results.

4. Former eBay CEO Meg Whitman (R) remains on pace to break all personal spending records in her race for the California governor's office. Whitman, who has given her campaign $39 million to date, and dropped $27 million between Jan. 1 and March 17, while raising $21 million, all but $1 million of which came from her own pocket.

According to her campaign, Whitman has spent a stunning $23 million on television and radio ads as well as direct mail and online appeals. "Our campaign's budget is focused on direct communications with California voters, and it's designed for victory on election day," said Whitman campaign manager Jillian Hasner.

Whitman's spending dwarfs that of state Insurance Commissioner Steve Poizner (R) who disbursed roughly $3 million during that same period. Poizner, as he has long done, sought to turn Whitman's spending into a negative -- issuing a release that showed that she spent $358,000 a day and nearly $15,000 an hour between January 2010 and the March 17 filing deadline.

Poizner is making the only argument he can but in our experience voters rarely make their decisions about candidates based on where their campaign cash comes from. And, recent polling suggests that Whitman is very much in the driver's seat against Poizner. In a March Field poll Whitman held a massive 63 percent to 14 percent edge in the primary.

Whitman's spending has also turned the general election competitive. Whitman took 46 percent to 43 percent for state Attorney General Jerry Brown. Brown, who faces no primary and is already a well known commodity in the state, spent just $142,000 in the first reporting period of 2010.

ALSO READ: Whitman appears to be equivocating (or is she?) about her past promise to release 25 years of personal tax returns.

5. Former Washington state Sen. Dino Rossi (R) was in the nation's capital Tuesday and discussed the possibility of a Senate candidacy with Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele, according to a source familiar with the conversation.

Rossi, who lost bids for governor in 2004 and 2008, is widely seen as Republicans' best possible candidate against Sen. Patty Murray (D) in 2010. Asked by the Seattle Post-Intelligencer recently about the possibility of a Senate bid Rossi said: "There are a lot of people making plans for my life. I have not said that I would never run for office. But I certainly haven't said I would."

Polling conducted in the race suggests that Rossi would immediately make the race against Murray competitive. A recent Rasmussen poll showed Rossi with 49 percent to Murray's 46 percent, a fact about which Rossi seemed well versed in the interview with the P-I. (NOTE: Democrats take issue with Rasmussen, which conducts its poll using automated interviews.)

Rossi isn't likely to make up his mind much before the state's June 11 primary, sources tell us. If he is in, Republicans will be credited -- and rightly so -- with expanding the playing field to take advantage of what looks to be a very favorable national landscape for the party. The two other Senate races where national Republicans are actively recruiting are New York where appointed Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D) is up and in Wisconsin where Sen. Russ Feingold (D) is seeking a third term in the fall.

By Chris Cillizza  |  March 24, 2010; 5:42 AM ET
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First of all, congratulations if you have read this far.
It seems time and time again that all we hear from the Republican party is "SOUR GRAPES". They lost the presidental election and now they are REALLY mad. "Hey, I know lets vote against everything Obama wants to change in our government. That'll show them."
They lost the health care debate and now they are "double-dog mad". Hey, I know lets throw bricks at the people who vote for the health care bill! That'll show them!
I say we let Sarah continue her antics. She drags the Republican party down a notch every day. And we all thought she was a quitter! You go girl!

Posted by: ndstudio | March 31, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Go Sarah! Go "Tea Party" Activist! Keep pushing the Republican GOPers further to the Radical Right! Just don't push them completely off the cliff!

If the Dems just don't move to the center, and the Repubs move further & further Right, then the Centrist Party can grow and become a major player in national politics!!


Folks, if you are sick and tired of politics as usual, Vote 'em Out!

Posted by: JohnnyBravo1999 | March 30, 2010 9:24 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 27, 2010 7:05 AM | Report abuse

Needless to say, I disagree.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 27, 2010 6:16 AM | Report abuse

$arah Palin is a one-trick pony: she campaigns in order to trash the incumbents, then quits when she actually is elected. Truly a disgusting person who is a very poor representative of the religion based on the teachings and example of Jesus Christ.

Posted by: goldengateview | March 26, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Because she's going to be the next President of the United States.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 26, 2010 10:54 AM | Report abuse

"The Health Care Law contains the biggest tax increase in the history of the United States!" - but not for you! just for the super rich! and why are people still following sarah palin? she's a beautiful beautiful idiot!

Posted by: kapauldo | March 25, 2010 11:15 PM | Report abuse

PatC1:

Do you live in one of the targeted Districts?

Continued field of REPUBLICANS running in said Districts:

Florida's 2nd District (Cook PVI R+6):

Eddie Hendry
Eddie Ortiz
Carl Meece Jr.
Charlie Ranson
Steve Southerland

I don't think that Mark Mulligan or William Fisher are running this year. However, there is a third party ("Modern Whig") candidate, Paul McKain, as well. This race could get interesting.

Florida's 24th District (Cook PVI R+4):

Tom Feeney
Dorothy Hukill (maybe)
Sandy Adams
Lee Constantine (maybe)
Ken Miller
Jim Heinzelman
Tom Garcia
Karen Diebel
Sean Campbell
Deon Long
Jason Davis
Chad Macinnes
Robert Robey
Jim Foster

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 25, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is a joke, pure and simple. Her cross-hairs image is, however, frightening and a prime example of why I will NEVER vote for her or anyone she endorses. If Sarah, lipstick-on-a-pig Palin, provides an endorsement, well then, I run (not walk)the other way.

On her face book page with the list of targeted people, she says, in effect, that she wants the will of the people represented. News flash to Sarah- we spoke last November and you lost. Get over it.

I'm an Independent voter and there's nothing Palin says that I consider relevant. And guess what folks? Both parties need votes like mine.

Posted by: PatC1 | March 25, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Colorado's 3rd District (Cook PVI R+5):

Scott Tipton
Bob McConnell
Ray Scott
Doug Thompson
Martin Beeson (maybe)

Colorado's 4th District (Cook PVI R+6):

Tom Lucero
Bob Schaffer (maybe)
Mark Hillman (maybe not)
Cory Gardner
Greg Brophy (maybe)
Marilyn Musgrave (maybe)
Diggs Brown
Bill Jerke (maybe)
Steve Johnson (maybe)
Dean Madere

See also:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/house/and-the-winner-is-3.html#comments

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 25, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Arizona's 1st District (Cook PVI R+6) also has three GOP candidates, so far:

Paul Gosar
Bradley Beauchamp
Russell Bowers

Four other Republicans have expressed "interest" (Joe Jaraczewski, Jon Richard Jensen, Steve Mehta, and Thomas Joseph Zaleski) but none have reported raising any funds as of this time. Sydney Hay, the 2008 GOP candidate, has confirmed not running again.

Arizona's 5th District (Cook PVI R+5) has at least SIX (6) Republicans running:

David Schweikert
Susan Bitter Smith
Jim Ward
Eric Wnuck
Chris Salvino
Jeffrey Smith

Mark Spinks may also be running, and Hugh Hallman is "rumored" to be considering a run, so this may be a very crowded field.

Arizona's 8th District (Cook PVI R+4) only has two GOP candidates that I could find:

Jesse Kelly
Brian Miller

Gov. Palin will be campaigning with John McCain in the 8th District tomorrow ; )

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 25, 2010 12:35 PM | Report abuse

You're demented. Palin's endorsement is the kiss of death.

Hahahahahah "Gov." Palin. How reverent.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 25, 2010 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Back on topic:

Arkansas' 2nd District (Cook PVI R+5) has at least three GOP candidates running for the nomination. Tim Griffin seems to be the front-runner, but there's also David Meeks or Scott Wallace. I just made a donation here:

http://www.timgriffinforcongress.com/

I'm not sure which one (or all?) Gov. Palin is endorsing at this point, or maybe she's waiting until the primary is held. With her help, there's no doubt that the Republican will win this seat.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 25, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Almost 300 posts so far.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 25, 2010 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Note how little discussion of Palin. Her infatuees aside, nobody gives a damn what that dingbat has to say, nor whom she endorses.

Time to stop giving her ink, her 15 minutes are finally up.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 25, 2010 12:00 AM | Report abuse


A CALL FOR THE RESIGNATION OF REP CLYBURN OF SOUTH CAROLINA


Rep. Clyburn went on CNN tonight and stated that he believed that the protests on Capitol Hill this weekend "were not about health care, but about RACE."


This is a COMPLETE DISGRACE TO THE COUNTRY.


For Rep. Clyburn - to basically disregard any legitimate opposition to the health care bill - and instead INSIST THAT EVERYONE AGAINST THE HEALTH CARE BILL ARE RACISTS.

The remarks of Rep. Clyburn tonight on CNN WERE EXTREMELY OFFENSIVE TO AMERICANS WHO EXERCISED THEIR LEGITIMATE RIGHT TO PETITION THE GOVERNMENT.


Rep. Clyburn OFFENDED those who were exercising THEIR FIRST AMENDMENT FREEDOMS .


This is a disgrace to our country - a disgrace to our American system of government.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 24, 2010 10:41 PM | Report abuse

Rich Republicans leave the USA? This would be a problem WHY exactly? Let them each take a gaggle of teabaggers with them. And good riddance.

The Age of Reagan is ending, and good riddance to that too. Taxes on the wealthy going up, medical care for the poor, go ahead and scream socialism but Tantalus can't stop this tide.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 24, 2010 10:29 PM | Report abuse

Democrats are FOOLS. They will pay for their ignorance and stupidity. The rich Republicans will find other countries to move their money. Brazil, India, Turkey, Singapore. Many countries greedily accept American money and freely hand out citizenships to Americans. You dumb democrats will be scrambling around like the governor of California wondering where your revenue went. Do the math. If you can. Mr Obama can't seem to read or do math. Good thing for him, he has a lot of Idiots following him.

Posted by: markypolo | March 24, 2010 9:54 PM | Report abuse

Ralph:

We'll see this November.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 24, 2010 8:03 PM | Report abuse

So,let me be clear here,my friends as this
Arizona Independent Voter will definitely
send a large political contribution for the
Dirty Twenty Democrat Traitors Hit List by
our next President Sarah Palin as well as
many more to her 2012 Presidential Campaign
too now then.

However I will definitely give JD Hayworth
one as well and vote for him so that Arizona can rid itself of senile RINO Senator Amnesty John McCain right along with all these Obamacrat Liberal Losers.

Posted by: Ralphinphnx | March 24, 2010 7:47 PM | Report abuse

"... this will be my last interaction with you."

Posted by: leichtman1 | March 23, 2010 7:46 PM

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 24, 2010 7:44 PM | Report abuse

this is one time I am with jake hoping that Palin is the 2012 nominee. its doubtful even the GOP party would be that stupid but hey anything is possible. I would even pay to start printing Palin/Bachman 2012 bumper stickers and might even consider sending that primary campaign ticket a contribution. That is one hope you can take to the bank. Predictions: why, who cares?

Posted by: leichtman1 | March 24, 2010 7:23 PM | Report abuse

patriotgmalou:

If Palin is elected President of the United States, will you admit that your "backfiring" prediction was wrong?

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 24, 2010 7:16 PM | Report abuse


If Palin is elected President of the United States, will you admit that your "backfiring" prediction was wrong?

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With four out of five voters having decided she isn't qualified for the job, and no movement in the other direction likely. What exactly do you think the chances are of that?

Hoping your magic invisible spirit will fix the election?

Better post some unhinged junk with a capitalized pronoun or two; you know rewards to those who do "His" work or something.

You charred-brain fool.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 24, 2010 7:12 PM | Report abuse

what is it about a Teabagger shouting the N word at a black Congressman John Lewis that you do not understand? Are you wishing for firehoses or attack dogs on him before you will understand that such behavior is patently un American? It is truly unbelievable that anyone in 2010 would still not choose to condemn such racists language used in the halls of our most cherished institution, the US Congress.

Posted by: leichtman1 | March 24, 2010 7:07 PM | Report abuse

Rep. Clyburn of South Carolina JUST DID IT AGAIN - HE CALLED THE PROTESTORS RACISTS.


He said the protests at the Capitol where not about health care, but about race.


THIS STATEMENT IS A DISGRACE. OBAMA WAS ELECTED BECAUSE HE WAS PROMISING A POST-RACIAL ATTITUDE. THIS IS NOT POST-RACIAL.


The democrats are PRACTICING HATE SPEECH.


WHAT REP. CLYBURN JUST SAID ON CNN WAS HATE SPEECH - AND HATE SPEECH WITH NO BASIS IN FACT.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 24, 2010 6:36 PM | Report abuse

patriotgmalou:

If Palin is elected President of the United States, will you admit that your "backfiring" prediction was wrong?

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 24, 2010 6:35 PM | Report abuse

Teabaggers are the puppets of Pawnpalin,
worshiping her with adoration, fawning at her every word and now, doing her bidding.
Teabaggers are showing their true colors, and America is not color blind. GOP is no
longer the GRAND OLD PARTY, it is the
GUTLESS ODIOUS PUKES, and they can thank her for adding to their plight. Teabaggers are now embedded with the likes of the KKK,
undoubtedly some of those devils are part of the movement. The proof is always in the pudding. The repukicans can't even stop this freight train of hate and mayhem, they are getting just what they deserve, and will soon start letting the
Teabaggers tie them to the tracks.

Posted by: patriotgmalou | March 24, 2010 6:21 PM | Report abuse

patriotgmalou:

If Palin is elected President of the United States, will you admit that your "backfiring" prediction was wrong?

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 24, 2010 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Obama IS IMPOSING ON THE COUNTRY a MASSIVE GOVERNMENT PROGRAM AND MASSIVE TAXES WHICH THE COUNTRY DOES NOT WANT.

Then Obama and democrats fake that they don't know why people are angry.


Obama is HAPPY TO MAKE YOU ANGRY.

Obama practiced a GREAT DEAL OF DECEPTION to get to this point -

Obama went around the country for years PROMISING TO BE BIPARTISAN - WHICH MEANT HE WOULD PURSUE CENTRIST POLICIES THAT BOTH PARTIES AGREED ON.

THIS WAS A FRAUD.

Yet he appears to not know why you are angry.

AND they will imply that your policy disagreements are really masked racism.


And Obama smiles - he is happy to make you angry.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 24, 2010 6:07 PM | Report abuse

dbw1 I asked this question earlier. If the CBO projections are so awful why didn't we hear those same sentiments when the GOP called on the CBO to analyze GOP policies b/w 2001 and 2008? Consistency?

Posted by: leichtman1 | March 24, 2010 6:06 PM | Report abuse

conservatives think their threats to D Congressmen are cute not so, this is disgusting.
Hopefully this insanity will stop before someone gets hurt.


"RICHMOND, Va. — Someone cut the line on a propane tank at the home of a congressman's brother after his address was posted online by tea party activists angry about passage of the federal health care reform bill, the lawmaker's office said Wednesday. A threatening letter was also sent to the house"

"U.S. Rep. Tom Perriello's office said a line to the small propane tank used for a gas grill was cut inside the screened-in porch at his brother's Charlottesville home on Tuesday. Periello's office said the letter was threatening but wouldn't elaborate on what it said.

Tea party activists had posted the brother's address online thinking it was the congressman's home, telling opponents to drop by and "express their thanks" for the Democrat's vote in favor of the sweeping health care reform."

Posted by: leichtman1 | March 24, 2010 5:59 PM | Report abuse

It is upsetting - this is a massive effort to paint the Tea Party movement.


What if someone went to the courthouse - and tried to paint all blacks as criminals based on the actions of a few who are on trial at the courthouse ???


SERIOUSLY, THIS IS WHAT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS UP TO TODAY.


And there with hundreds of cameras and microphones on Capitol Hill, NOT ONE CAUGHT A RACIAL SLUR - but the democrats are sooooo offended.

OH yea, sounds manufactured to me.


Sounds like Obama in summer of 2008 saying that the Republicans weren't racist yet, but THEY WERE GOING TO BE.


THIS STORY IS BEING PLAYED TOO MUCH.


And this stunt seems to have been pulled before they had the deal with Stupak - so maybe they pulled it when they thought they might lose the vote last weekend.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 24, 2010 5:59 PM | Report abuse

leichtman1:
"the HC bill cost $940 billion and according to the CBO generates a $1 trillion dollar deficit reduction over 20 years."

First of all, no, they didn't. Read the report. They estimated a general decrease in %-to-GDP terms. The Democrats then took that percent, assumed rosey economic outlooks for GDP in years 11-20, and came up with the $1.2 trillion deficit reduction number. When the CBO was asked if they calculated this number, they said "No".

Further, in regards to the estimates Congress requested beyond the first 10 years, the CBO report said, and I quote:

"The imprecision of that calculation reflects the even greater degree of uncertainty that attends to it...(the) CBO has not extrapolated estimates further into the future because the uncertainties surrounding them are magnified even more."

In other words, a GOP guess that this might add $3 trillion to deficits over 20 years is as equally valid as your guess (or at least the one you are quoting from the DNCC) that this bill will reduce deficits $1 trillion.

Oh, and while you are putting so much stock in CBO estimates, keep in mind this is the same CBO that projected the new Capitol Hill Visitors Center would cost $70 million, and it ended up costing $600 million.

In short, the CBO can only do estimates based on the numbers and assumptions the Congressional leadership gives them. Another way of saying this might be, 'garbage in, garbage out'.

Posted by: dbw1 | March 24, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Pawnpalin is the best thing that ever crossed the pike for the Democratic Party.
She is single-handedly placing the repukicans in the turkey funnel, all the while inciting hate and anti-democrat unrest in a way that the repukicans could never have done without her. They sure didn't know this when they plucked her out of nowheresville and plopped her in our faces! And this is becoming a travesty. The best part is that those brilliant cretins aren't smart enough to shut her up, and she's gettin' her gun loaded, and you should too!! The crazies in this country will receive this convoluted message and carnage will be the result,
somewhere. Already today they are carrying out her mantra. Those puke cretins who
dug her out of the garbage dump are going
to be sorry they went diggin' for her. IT
IS BACKFIRIN' BUCKEROOS, you're gettin' just what you deserve.

Posted by: patriotgmalou | March 24, 2010 5:53 PM | Report abuse

dbw1: do you think that if debate handlers told you the VP's name repeatedly that you would instead call him O'Biden or write crib notes on you hand to prepare for a speech you have written down in front of you? not exactly a sign of intellectual ability we would want as POTUS

Posted by: leichtman1 | March 24, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Back on topic, If anyone actually lives in one of Palin target districts (Arkansas' 2nd, Arizona's 1st, Arizona's 5th, Arizona's 8th, Colorado's 3rd, Colorado's 4th, Florida's 2nd, Florida's 24th, Indiana's 8th, Indiana's 9th, North Dakota at-large, Ohio's 6th, Ohio's 16th, Pennsylvania's 3rd, Pennsylvania's 10th, South Carolina's 5th, Tennessee's 6th, Virginia's 5th, West Virginia's 1st, or West Virginia's 2nd), what do you think about her endorsement?

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 24, 2010 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Noacoler:
"Palin can't even read and write. She couldn't handle being night manager at a Red Robin. President Palin hahahahahah grow a brain you dumb b astard."

Written with the well-reasoned factual accuracy and civility that typifies most of the left-wingers on these boards.

I think I see what they mean about how liberals are so well-educated and can get all intellectual with it...

Posted by: dbw1 | March 24, 2010 5:38 PM | Report abuse

the HC bill cost $940 billion and according to the CBO generates a $1 trillion dollar deficit reduction over 20 years. You can lie and claim it cost $4 trillion, why not just enhance your full throttled lie and claim it cost $100 trillion while you are busy.

Posted by: leichtman1 | March 24, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

excuse me, how in the world does a $1.3 trillion dollar tax cut equal $400 billion, pretty bad math on your part. Ah $1.3 now equals $400 billion and Medicare Part D which in your mind was totally free in reality cost $503 billion; plus the 2 unpaid for wars costing over a trillion dollars.
Lets do this real slow for you: $1.3 trillion+$503billion+$1 trillion in GOP speak equals $400 billion.
And Mr King of Insults exactly where were the GOP offsets? POTUS Bush used to call your math Fuzzy Math.

Posted by: leichtman1 | March 24, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Hey Lunni bin Zouk: your side lost again, and lost bigtime. "Obamacare" is the law of the land. Swallow it and choke, loser.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 24, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Medicare Part D cost over $500 billion and the GOP leadership provided zero budget offsets;


that must be where berry is getting the money.

If A lends money to B, then neither one ever pays. this is liberal bookkeeping.

Posted by: Zouk_is_King | March 24, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Finance whiz thinks 400 billion over 8 years is equal to 4 trillion over one year.

no wonder you went into criminality. you libs just can't seem to grasp numbers.

here's a good one. spend a trillion to save money. Just how totally gullible can you get?

Posted by: Zouk_is_King | March 24, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

OK Mr King of Insults please tell me which of the following are incorrect:

1. When POTUS Bush was sworn into office in Jan 2001 the federal budget had a Surplus;
2. The 2001 $1.3 trillion tax cut had no budget offsets;
3. Medicare Part D cost over $500 billion and the GOP leadership provided zero budget offsets;
4. The vote for Medicare Part D was held open for 3 hours until 5 am. What would you have screamed on Sunday if the speaker had pulled that same stunt?

Your name calling doesn't change this GOP reality.

Since you are into insults why don't you also tell us in detail when the GOP has ever criticized the CBO scoring for any of the above GOP budget busting policies.

The point has nothing to do with Bush's budget busting policies, but specifically about GOP hypocrisy when it comes to the deficit and CBO scoring. Rather than just hurling personal useless rants and insults why don't we hear specifics of how the GOP has previously denigrated the CBO about their scoring GOP programs.

We also read right wing rants here yesterday about how Obama would never sign the executive order on abortion. I guess yesterday is to far away to discuss as well.

Posted by: leichtman1 | March 24, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Looks like zouk isn't getting too many photography gigs. So he's back here pasting out of the right wing press again and calling us sophomoric names.

Not that it pays anyway, but it must be really hard to get gigs photographing kids' birthday parties and weddings when one is a frothing bigot in a town that's 90% black.

But thanks for the friend request!!

Posted by: Noacoler | March 24, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Oh god, now finance whiz is going back to his losing argument from last week.

Maybe we could discuss Bush v. Gore if you're up to it.

Posted by: Zouk_is_King | March 24, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

curious what purpose it serves to call someone who disagrees with you a raving lunatic. In reality it only dimishes any credibility you might still have here when you have to resort to juvenile name calling.

Posted by: leichtman1


Are you referring to the standard operating procedure of the Three Stooges of the fix? Curious how it never bothers you when the leftist idiots do it. but then your world seems to be confined to the view from the bottom of a narrow trashcan looking up.

Posted by: Zouk_is_King | March 24, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

interesting that we heard absolutely nothing from the right about the deficit when they voted in lockstep to Tom DeLay and Hastert's marching orders for Medicare Part D and kept open the vote an unprecedented 3 hours by Dennis Hastert, much less the warnings the GOP was given in 2001 about the $1.3 trillion dollar tax cut and how that would blow up the Clinton surplus.

Posted by: leichtman1 | March 24, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

curious what purpose it serves to call someone who disagrees with you a raving lunatic. In reality it only dimishes any credibility you might still have here when you have to resort to juvenile name calling.

Posted by: leichtman1 | March 24, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

The path to Sunday's catastrophic vote was paved with cynical blandishments by the Democratic Party's congressional leaders to their members. The votes were induced by the assurance that in the seven remaining months before the election, the true facts of their legislation, which led to overwhelming public opposition to the bill when passed -- can be undone in the minds of the voters by remorselessly repeating misconceptions to the public.

The most mendacious, cruel and destructive proposition put forth by the Democratic congressional leadership -- and soon by almost all its ranks and files -- is, of course, the outlandish claim that the bill will reduce the deficit.
Of course, every informed person understands why the CBO calculation is an honest measure of a dishonest bill. Republican Rep. Paul Ryan at the health care summit, former CBO Director Douglas Holtz-Eakin, in last Sunday's New York Times, and hundreds of commentators have all laid out the lamentable, indisputable and undisputed fact that the CBO methodology has been gamed by the congressional Democrats to turn what will be more than a trillion dollars in further public deficit and debt into a fantasy savings of $140 billion.

While Medicare is at about $30 trillion in unfunded liability by 2070, the bill preposterously claims it is going to cut Medicare by half a trillion dollars a decade. The quarter- to half-trillion dollars per 10 years that it will cost to pay Medicare doctors enough to keep them providing services has simply been put in another bill. The mendacities go on and on. They are not merely small, politically useful little deceptions. They are of a dimension that may destroy the republic.

Posted by: Zouk_is_King | March 24, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

So I know, I'm wasting my time waiting for drindl to provide any rationale arguments...other than maybe calling me a 'loser' again. That's always an effective rebuttal....

Posted by: dbw1


you must be new here. dribbl is a deranged raving lunatic. expecting intelligence from it is as hopeful as waiting for a shrimp to sing Vivaldi.

Posted by: Zouk_is_King | March 24, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Another day of a stooge filled Fix.

Posted by: Zouk_is_King | March 24, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

drindl:

Case closed.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 24, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Is anyone but Cillizza giving Palin ink for this? Does anyone but CC and Jake-In-Love care? Palin won't shift a single vote toward her endorsees and she will shift thousands away. Independents and Democrats despise her. Her only appeal is to the most committed Republicans so her endorsement is in toto a solid negative.

For a guy who gets paid to write politics, Cillizza sure has a screwy take on it.

Did McDonnell, Christie, or Brown take a Palin endorsement? No.

Doug Hoffman did.

Completion of the thought is left as a reader exercise.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 24, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

maybe she will learn by then that the VP's name is not O'Biden

Posted by: leichtman1 | March 24, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

red2million:

Gov. Palin is more qualified to be President than Obama.

==

idiotic Post of the Day

Palin can't even read and write.

She couldn't handle being night manager at a Red Robin.

President Palin hahahahahah grow a brain you dumb b astard

Posted by: Noacoler | March 24, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

it would be met with gigantic laughter from sea to shining sea

Posted by: leichtman1 | March 24, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

dbw1:

If you think the "hate" is bad now, just wait until the headline reads "Palin announces her run for the Presidency".

==

the response to Palin's announcement will be electoral victory celebrations, safely held well in advance of the election.

She will be the one who gets to drown the GOP in the bathtub.

Don't you "get it?". She's poison.

Posted by: Noacoler | March 24, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

joked: I don't think I used the word promise, but assuming arguendo that I did, so what? I believe the correct term is BFD. You're a lawyer (LOL), so you know the value of a promise made on an anonymous message board.

I tried to stay away as long as possible, but it became impossible to refrain from responding to the garbage posted by the likes of you, armpit, and Ace McNumbnuts.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | March 24, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

precisely what memo is that and precisely what hate are you implying? more faux outrage from the GOP moral equivalency crowd.
as for the tanning tax, maybe we spared your fearless leader from skin cancer he doesn't look as orange as he used to.

Posted by: leichtman1 | March 24, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Odd how the Democrats are flocking to the comments sections with Hate, and disavowing anything that has been done wrong by someone with there same political views.
You must have all gotten the same memo as you all seem to writing the same thing.
You are more frightened now that this bill has passed then before. Perhaps the realization that November is coming and the tide is turning has finally dawned on you.
Keep up with demonetizing others it will just dig the hole deeper. The American people got your number and we will invoke change at the voting booth not in the streets as you appear dead set to provoke.
Enjoy you new 10% tanning tax and the others to come shortly.

Posted by: jace1 | March 24, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Please, Jake. It's my apology and I reject it completely. I prefer using the Kirkland brand.

Posted by: JakeD3 | March 24, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

the right here is full of moral equivalency. They have no answers for the vile threats left on Congresswoman Slaughter's voice mail, the spitting and use of the N word against Congressman Lewis and the Fla lunatic who proudly urges his followers to vandalize D Hdqtrs other than to point to an insane DC extremist who rails against Govt, the dept of education, the IRS and taking his property as his ridiculously being labeled a D operative b/c 5 years ago he voted against POTUS Bush b/c he opposed the Iraq war. Some would call it faux moral equivalency others would simply label that sad attempt to explain away dangerous behavior as cynical rationalization.

Posted by: leichtman1 | March 24, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

In the end I suspect Sarah Palin will prove to be a big detriment to the reaper party and the political process as a whole. She will undoubtedly push her luck too far.

Posted by: hoser3 | March 24, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

koolkat_1960:

Apology accepted.

Now, did you or did you not promise to never post here again?

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 24, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Does Mrs. Palin advocate cutting the gas lines of the people on her target list? See the news, not reported in the WaPo, about Rep. Tom Perriello. The tea party folks listed what they thought was his home address, but it was his brother's. Someone cut the gas line at that address.

Posted by: thrh | March 24, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Sorry joked, I should have known you'd go with a cheap house brand or mongrel brand diaper instead of a name brand like Depends. I apologize.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | March 24, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Jake:

Drindl has yet to:
1) show evidence for the assertion the left has no violence
2) prove the examples I gave of left-wing violence are not true
3) post their source for all the lengthy cut-and-paste articles regarding all the supposed right-wing violence (presumably because the source would be unmasked as being unreliable).

So I know, I'm wasting my time waiting for drindl to provide any rationale arguments...other than maybe calling me a 'loser' again. That's always an effective rebuttal....

Posted by: dbw1 | March 24, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

dbw1:

Don't hold your breath waiting for answers around here.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 24, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

koolkat_1960:
"The idiot askgees clearly missed Palin herself admitting that her family used to "hustle over over to Canada" for health care. Nice post, moron! Try reading a little before posting your juvenile gibberish."

And apparantly kookkat missed the part about Palin being 6 years old when they "hustled over the border". I could argue about how that was when Canadian universal health care was in it's infacy, or that the reason SP's family did that is because it was easier to travel over land into Canada, than wait for the once-a-day ferry to the closest Alaskan town.

But how about this, if koolkat wants to talk about who is hustling over who's border for health care, what say we start with the Canadian premier who just came to a hospital in Ohio for heart treatment he couldn't get in Canada?

Koolkat, try 'reading a little' before responding with a left-wing talking point...

Posted by: dbw1 | March 24, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

There have been efforts by the democrats to define everyone in the Tea Party Movement by the actions of a few.


Clearly, if that logic is valid, then the democrats would not object to going to any Courthouse in America and defining all blacks in the country by the few who are on trial as criminals.


This effort by the democrats is silly - and it is destracting the country from the MASSIVE GOVERNMENT PROGRAM AND THE MASSIVE TAXES WHICH ARE BEING IMPOSED ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AGAINST THEIR WILL.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 24, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

drindl:
"it must suck to be wrong all the time. maybe that's why you're such a poor loser-"

Ummm, could you point to one thing you've proven me wrong about? Of course not, because you have yet to answer any points I've made with anything other than name-calling. I guess when you are cornered about your own fallacious statements you are left with nothing else...

Since you still haven't answered the challenge to your false claim that there are "no threats, no violence, no intimidation on the left", how about chewing on this: your friends on this same board have posted a few times about Ann Counter being given the boot from a speaking engagement in Ottawa. Why is she not speaking? Because the left-wing protestors appeared "threatening" and organizers feared she wouldn't be safe!

drindl, you are so sad. You can't answer even one simple challenge to your factually-challenged posts. And the facts in evidence against you keep piling up.

I look forward to your next post calling me yet another name. It's apparantly all you have, as apparently arguing with facts is beyond your intellectual grasp...

Posted by: dbw1 | March 24, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse

To which Palin "shills" are you referring?

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 24, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

just showing rightwing stupidity. What is pathetic about Palin and her shills here are that they do not even comprehend the implications of talking about gun rights, targeting Congresspeople and then showing off a map with rifle crosshairs, and urging on some of their most dangerous followers. I would call it pathetic/sad for their ignorance if not for the lunacy sublimental message they are sending to some of their most radical followers. The fla nut job imploring GOPers to throw bricks through D Hdqtrs and the frightening message left on Congresswoman Slaughter's voice mail shows that these messages need to be taken seriously. But again the exGovernor is clueless about its dangerous implications; that is truly pathetic.

Posted by: leichtman1 | March 24, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse

leichtman1:

So much for not "interacting" with me.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 24, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse

how many DNC target list show maps with rifle scope crosshairs? GOP moral equivalency,its sickening.

Posted by: leichtman1 | March 24, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Hey! That apology was directed to me, bub. I apologize to everyone for my altered ego's comments.

Posted by: JakeD3 | March 24, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

I don't wear Depends. Care to answer my question now?

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 24, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

koolcat; it was a stupid statement on her part, she just didn't get the contradiction, but it was in the 1960s, decades before Canada had national HC so she should get a pass.

Posted by: leichtman1 | March 24, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

jaked, don't you have to change your Depends?

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | March 24, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

http://vodpod.com/watch/3297539-christian-flat-earth-extremist-half-gov-sarah-palin-advocates-violence

I don t take her hit list and cross hair suggestion seriously b/c it is very unlikely that she has any idea what the implications of using cross hairs and guns in a shoutout to her radical friends suggests; poor Sarah she is just clueless. Don't attack her, just feel sorry for her.

Posted by: leichtman1 | March 24, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Sorry Joked but there is no President Clinton now either. There is a President Obama, however.

There is former President Clinton or Mr. Clinton, and there is Quitter Palin or Loser Palin. You might want to go with Mrs. Palin.

If you want to call her former Governor Palin, go right ahead. We'll just remind you that she quit that job.

Glad to help.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | March 24, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

koolkat_1960:

Didn't you promise to never post here again?

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 24, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

"Wonder if she will dash across the border to Canada for some more free health care?
Posted by: rkerg | March 24, 2010 11:58 AM | Report abuse
Since she’s not Canadian I would guess not. But I guess you being the LIB you are you’re simply too stup1d to figure that out on your own. How did you manage to graduate high school???? And these are the simplet0ns that elected the mor0n with 2.5 years experience to be president. These are also the one’s that will pay the bill for the new healthcare. Talk about stup1d.


Posted by: askgees | March 24, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse"

The idiot askgees clearly missed Palin herself admitting that her family used to "hustle over over to Canada" for health care.

Nice post, moron! Try reading a little before posting your juvenile gibberish.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | March 24, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Wonder if she will dash across the border to Canada for some more free health care?
Posted by: rkerg | March 24, 2010 11:58 AM | Report abuse
Since she’s not Canadian I would guess not. But I guess you being the LIB you are you’re simply too stup1d to figure that out on your own. How did you manage to graduate high school???? And these are the simplet0ns that elected the mor0n with 2.5 years experience to be president. These are also the one’s that will pay the bill for the new healthcare. Talk about stup1d.

Posted by: askgees | March 24, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse

bootstrap1:

How many "target lists" have the DNC released.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 24, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

PS to joked: While there is no "Gov. Palin," there is a "Pres. Obama." Glad to help.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | March 24, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

koolkat_1960:

Is there also no former PRESIDENT Clinton. I realize you won't admit the rest of us can use the title as a form of respect, but didn't you promise to never post here again.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 24, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin compares to a Mexican Drug Lord.........She's posted her Target List !!! The FBI should get involved in this call to incite violence.

Posted by: bootstrap1 | March 24, 2010 1:26 PM | Report abuse

askgees:

"Funny" as in tragic, sad for our grandchildren and their grandchildren?

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 24, 2010 1:26 PM | Report abuse

I wonder what alternate universe joked thinks Palin will get elected president in?

Maybe she can run on a ticket with Virginia Atty Gen. Ken Kookynutty.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | March 24, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

"red2million:

Gov. Palin is more qualified to be President than Obama.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 24, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse"

There is no "Gov. Palin." She quit. She is now Nobody Palin.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | March 24, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

No, Randy_Hawkins (I also fought the Communists in Korea). Nice try though.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 24, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

In a couple of years when the bills come due and the LIB idiot's who felt this was such a good idea realize it is they that have to pay the bills it will be one of the funniest things to happen to the US in it's history.

Posted by: askgees | March 24, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

I think all that can be said about Ms. Palin has already been repeated ad-nauseum . I implore my fellow citizens who reside in the "reality-based" world to stop paying any attention to her, as your comments only cause her fan base to love her all the more. Besides, what fun is it at this point? Sort of on a par with shooting fish in a barrel.

Posted by: bienefes | March 24, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

GO SARAH.as the last descent dem potus would say "give them hell"

Posted by: pofinpa | March 24, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Palin alone may be the Dems best hope for success in 2010. As an independent i used to vote about 50/50 for each party but now am more 90/10 and people like Palin are the reason. Boehner runs a close second on empty headed self promoting ambitious air bags.

She shoudl be on a disconnected form reality show. I just love seeing all her followers lapping up her bits of wit and wisdom, shelling out loads of cash for her, and buying into the God at the center of her life BS. The thing at the center of her life is Sarah Palin.

Posted by: dkeller1 | March 24, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

... now we know why she campaigned against use of the R-word ... so sorry Sarah, getting people to stop using the word doesn't mean you aren't one ... dumb ideas from the Queen of Dumb ...

Posted by: derekrobbins | March 24, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

I am all for the first amendment, but braindead people like the quitter and former militia vanderboegh (who, BTW, is receiving disability checks for the government!) need to be stopped.
There hare already been bricks thrown at democratic party officers and one of the representatives' children were the subject of a murder plot!
The Harris poll also stated that a percentage of repugs think of President Obama as hitler. If only that were so, limberger, beck, hannity, the quitter, malkin, dimwit and toner boner would have already been rounded up never to be heard from again.
Why doesn't the FBI or Secret Service look into these two people who are subliminally telling the right wing gun nuts to go out and kill? What is it going to take? Murdering our elected officials?
while you are at it contact Discovery @viewerrelations or by phone 240-662-2000 and let them know how much you don't want to hear that woman tell us she can she Russia from her backyard! Same with mark burnett. Guess Survivosr just isn't enough for him?

Posted by: MAKMD1 | March 24, 2010 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Palin is another demagogue on the order of Huey Long and Douglas McArthur. Her looks are the main attraction to white males who are eager to re-direct the flow of blood from their brains to their lower region. She may have inspired Robin Williams' remark, "men have a brain and a penis, but only enough blood to operate one at a time".

Posted by: dubhlaoich | March 24, 2010 1:02 PM | Report abuse

The language in this article needs to be corrected. "Grassroots followers" happens to be a majority of Americans. I know that is difficult to see with Liberal la-La Land blinders on.

Posted by: fgoepfert1 | March 24, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Sean Duffy -- or as most people his age and younger know him, Sean from "The Real World: Boston" -- is the perfect fit for wannabe reality star Sarah ... but I prefer my "reality" not to be staged for the cameras, thanks.

Posted by: gmg22 | March 24, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

JakeD2 is the type of person who would fall for Hitler's speeches.

Posted by: Randy_Hawkins | March 24, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

As long as democrats don't get lazy and instead vote in the large numbers that brought Obama into power, the teabaggers will be nothing more than a historical footnote, and as far as Palin the presidential candidate goes, bring it on. She'll probably cry during a tough debate or interview and drop out. Or rip off her mask to be revealed as the voodoo resurrection of the gipper!

Posted by: drumdominic | March 24, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

"Palin is perfumed flatulance"

Geez, I thought I disliked Palin but I palin comparisin to this one, ROFLMAO, truely a classic and correct discription of the oder of a vacume.

Posted by: anOPINIONATEDsob | March 24, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

red2million:

Gov. Palin is more qualified to be President than Obama.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 24, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

It's lovely to see an outpouring of such generous contempt for palin. warms my heart.

Posted by: drindl | March 24, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Why is this worth more than the back page? Sarah Palin is just a light-weight with lots of name recognition.

Posted by: Menidia | March 24, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse

I believe Ms. Palin is trying to be a more "male like" Sean Hannity.

Posted by: hoser3 | March 24, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse

PatrickNYC:

American citizens can, indeed, say those things as protected speech.

jckdoors:

If she is elected President of the United States, then will you admit the "relevance"?

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 24, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

The following was copied and pasted here for the express purpose of publicly displaying the stupidity of Fox News and Sean Hannity as well as Sarah Palin and the legal staff's of each. I give you this for your perusal and humor.

"Content and Programming Copyright 2010 Fox News Network, Inc. Copyright 2010 Roll Call, Inc. All materials herein are protected by United States copyright law and may not be reproduced, distributed, transmitted, displayed, published or broadcast without the prior written permission of Roll Call. You may not alter or remove any trademark, copyright or other notice from copies of the content.

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All that leagal ease and then an invite to violate it. Are these the fools and morons we have let run the country for the last four decades? and you really want them back???

Drindle and a couple others are telling you the truth weather you like it or not. Even the Canadians are sending Ann Coulter out the door with a boot up her rear because of all the lies. Are we goin to let them show us our stupidity or are we going to admit it and better yet, correct it?

Posted by: anOPINIONATEDsob | March 24, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

The Republican Party- An American Tragedy (1 Act).

Posted by: hoser3 | March 24, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Careful there, doof. I think you have Palin confused with one of your lingerie models-for-hire on Model Mayhem.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | March 24, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Why are you even bringing up Palin? She's irrelevent. Who cares (well, except for the 27 people who do) what the quitter says?

Posted by: jckdoors | March 24, 2010 12:34 PM | Report abuse

One Wasilla based seat is my main target for 2010.

Posted by: hoser3 | March 24, 2010 12:33 PM | Report abuse

We have Palin, Fox News, Limbaugh and Beck to thank for the progress that the democrats make. If they say it's bad for America then the American people know it MUST be good.

Posted by: blarsen1 | March 24, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is very accomplished. In fact she accomplished so much as Governor of Alaska that there was no need for her to finish out her term!

Posted by: LionelMandrake | March 24, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

The Alaskan squirrel eater is trying to fill the void left by the death of Anna Nichole Smith.

Posted by: Ms_Morgan | March 24, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Are you among the 71% of Americans with an unfavorable opinion of Palin? Then these are the candidates for whom you want to vote. Remember their names.

Posted by: Lefty_ | March 24, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

"beautiful, smart, young, great speaker, loved by millions, accomplished more in her life than a thousand democrats, charismatic, family oriented, worked hard.... on and on.

name one liberal who comes close

Posted by: doof"

Since when do looks mean anything in politics? Those who put "beautiful" when talking about Sarah Palin are shallow, empty-headed buffoons.

She's not very smart in her politics. What she is smart about is spreading hatred and energizing her base.

Young is a relative term. She may be young in age, but her policies are right up there with old geezers. I guess those who think this way call her young.

She may have done more in her life than 1000 Democrats, but none of those Democrats are worth a damn. Other than that, she hasn't done much at all except make her own pockets filled with money. Then again, that's all that matters, right?

Sarah Palin's head is empty.

Posted by: Randy_Hawkins | March 24, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

who cares what this woman has to say, what she thinks or anything else? She's about as qualified to opine on anything or run anything as a tree stump is. Actually a tree stump can't do much harm, so I would prefer to see a tree stump sitting in a chair with a suit on then to hear anything this radical extremist has to say. Why does the media insist on giving her so much coverage? Her name is in the news almost every single day. Who is she? What has she done? What makes her anymore qualified than a tree stump or a rock? I don't see it. she's an annoying hypocritical pharisee. Why can't she shut up and go away? I can't stand the sight of her.

Posted by: red2million | March 24, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

smart and accomplished? precisely what has she accomplished other than to pad her wardrobe? O'Biden anyone for her intelligence factor. Even her own debate prep team couldn't believe her stupidity.

Posted by: leichtman1 | March 24, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

"name one liberal who comes close"

Easy. Nancy Pelosi, with her soft, supple skin, her deft handling of the issues, and her easy-to-like personality, I would say the GOP has no one like this. In fact, she may the only one of her kind.

Posted by: Skeptic1 | March 24, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Let's hope Sarah pulls all the stops and really makes a difference this election, just like she did in NY-23.

Posted by: leftcoaster | March 24, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

'Man, drindl, it must really suck to continue to have your talking points shot down with facts."

it must suck to be wrong all the time. maybe that's why you're such a poor loser -- too much practice.

Posted by: drindl | March 24, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

"beautiful, smart, young, great speaker, loved by millions, accomplished more in her life than a thousand democrats, charismatic, family oriented, worked hard.... on and on.

name one liberal who comes close

Posted by: doof | March 24, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse"

Funniest thing Ace McNumbnuts has ever posted. Congratulations, Ace!

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | March 24, 2010 12:10 PM | Report abuse

JakeD2

You can not go into a theater and yell fire, nor can you publish hit lists and tell people to 'reload' and not expect their to be ramifications.

Posted by: PatrickNYC1 | March 24, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin's Tucson appearance with John McCain will be in Arizona's 8th Congressional District, one of Palin's "targets", and my home. This is also where, the night of the House healthcare vote, the front door to Rep. Gabrielle Giffords' District Office was shattered -- perhaps kicked in, perhaps shot with a pellet gun. Will the Mavericks distance themselves from violent hooliganism, or will they incite further violence toward their "target" representatives? I am enormously proud to be represented by Gabby Giffords -- the only member of Congress married to an active member of the military. Violence, threats of violence, even metaphorical violence toward elected officials is seditious and destructive of our democracy. It must stop!

Posted by: cybridge | March 24, 2010 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Can't Todd keep his idiot wife's mouth busy with something else? She's foaming again.

Posted by: jvlem | March 24, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

sun52shine:

The CIA?!

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 24, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Palin is perfumed flatulance. How can so many people get fooled by this?

Posted by: kchses1 | March 24, 2010 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Wonder if she will dash across the border to Canada for some more free health care?

Posted by: rkerg | March 24, 2010 11:58 AM | Report abuse

drindl:
"tkae the white supremacist who killed a guard at the holocaust museum."

Yet more inconvenient facts for drindl to squirm about. I know, drindl, that you want to believe with all your heart that only a mad-man Limbaugh/Beck/Hannity fan could ever be capable of the atrocity committed at the Holocaust museum, but consider this from the Politico (and this guy - Ben Smith - has had plenty of criticism for the GOP, so I think it's fair to assume he doesn't come with a 'perspective' like your sources):

Politico:
"The suggestion that the [Weekly] Standard may have been a target complicates any view of the racist shooter in contemporary left-right terms. Von Brunn's white supremacist roots put him under the rubric of a "right-wing extremist," but the substance of his views -- which included everything from believing that President Bush may have been in on the September 11 attacks to denying that President Obama is an American citizen -- are too far on the fringe to fit into conventional political classification. The focus on the Standard, though, appears to be of a piece with his central motivation: Anti-Semitism. In one essay, Von Brunn attacked "JEWS-NEOCONS-BILL O’REILLY," and the suggestion that neoconservatism is a specifically Jewish conspiracy is common on the racist fringe."

In other words, the guy was a nut. You will also find many sources who say he was a Democrat, hated Fox News, and ascribed to neoconservatism all manner of societal ills.

Man, drindl, it must really suck to continue to have your talking points shot down with facts.

Posted by: dbw1 | March 24, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

why are we not hearing more GOP paranoid rants today about this faux GOP story yesterday and continually repeated here?

"As the reconciliation debate continues today, Mr. Obama will quietly sign an executive order extending already-existing restrictions on taxpayer funding of abortion to the health care legislation. While yesterday's bill signing was a high profile event, today's signing will be closed to the press. Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mich.), who led the push for stringent abortion coverage restrictions in the health care bill, will attend the signing along with about a dozen other anti-abortion rights legislators"

Posted by: leichtman1 | March 24, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

I think that Palin is a democrat stooge- careful my republican brethren! She is a hireling out to bring the party down with her absurd messages and is doing a superb job on what's left of GOP credibility!

Posted by: alika | March 24, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

The CIA should charge Sarah Palin with treason for threating the lives and welfare of our Congressmen/women, the Senators, the President and the Vice President. Please keep in mind that if anything happens to our leaders than it is fixing to petition the courts, the FBI and the CIA to hold Sarah Palin accountable for planning a hit list.

Posted by: sun52shine | March 24, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

PatrickNYC1:

The "law" you are referring to is the First Amendment.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 24, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin should be arrested for inciting people to take arms against the current administration. She is a terrorist!!! She is as bad as the 911 terrorists and should be arrested. She will encourage the ignorant to take arms and shoot democrats or bomb buildings. She is not a 'maverick' she is a terrorist in sheep’s clothing! She is a terrorist!!!

Posted by: anon3078 | March 24, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

There is only one person that should be on the "get cha" list .............. and that is you, SARAH PALIN.

And, we the voters, WILL SO THE JOB ! ! !

Posted by: loretoguy | March 24, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin bailed on her constituents in Alaska for this???!?!?!?!?

What an incredibly huge loser.

I'm sorry Alaska.

Posted by: unpluggedboodah | March 24, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

marSF:

I accept your apology.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 24, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Cilliza you fail to mention that she started of her ranting with it's time to 'reload', that she also used an image of a rifle scope to mark her list. If anything happens from this I hope she is prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

Posted by: PatrickNYC1 | March 24, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin? Why is this bimbo, a has-been, even a news item?

Posted by: jtisch | March 24, 2010 11:39 AM

beautiful, smart, young, great speaker, loved by millions, accomplished more in her life than a thousand democrats, charismatic, family oriented, worked hard.... on and on.

name one liberal who comes close


Posted by: doof | March 24, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

EdSanteFe and edfred2:

You sound hateful to me.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 24, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

drindl:
"what you can't admit is that you are deluded. when someone beats you in an argument, you move the goalposts or pretend it's something else, or walk away."

I'm sorry, I must have missed it. I just looked again through all of your posts (and trust me, there are plenty for me to have to go through), and I still fail to find where you proved that there is "no violence, no threats, no intimidation on the left".

Do you care to post your evidence again up here at the top since I can't seem to find it? Simply continuing to post articles about the supposed violence on the right (while conveniently leaving your posts unsourced, which does nothing to add to their credibility) does not suffice as a legitimate response to your silly argument about their being no violence on the left.

Feel free to type a response in your own words, too. I saw the note from someone complimenting your 'wonderful writing'. The must have confused your writing with 'wonderful cut-and-pasting'....

Posted by: dbw1 | March 24, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Don't know much about history, do you, dbw?
How about the US National Archives as a source?

"George Bush's grandfather, the late US senator Prescott Bush, was a director and shareholder of companies that profited from their involvement with the financial backers of Nazi Germany.

The Guardian has obtained confirmation from newly discovered files in the US National Archives that a firm of which Prescott Bush was a director was involved with the financial architects of Nazism.

His business dealings, which continued until his company's assets were seized in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act, has led more than 60 years later to a civil action for damages being brought in Germany against the Bush family by two former slave labourers at Auschwitz and to a hum of pre-election controversy.

The evidence has also prompted one former US Nazi war crimes prosecutor to argue that the late senator's action should have been grounds for prosecution for giving aid and comfort to the enemy."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar

Posted by: drindl | March 24, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

The Republican party's teeth are tea stained.

Posted by: Emmetrope | March 24, 2010 11:38 AM


democrats don't have any teeth

Posted by: doof | March 24, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Sorry, the headline for this should have been "Failed Quitter 18 Month Governor of Backwater Welfare State Opens Her Mouth and Nobody Cares".

Posted by: marSF | March 24, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Targeting people like you would target wolves from helicopters is red meat nomenclature for the backwoods redneck rage filled rapture wishing no-sayers that rising new reality show star Smirky Sarah hopes to influence this November.

Posted by: GarrisonLiberty | March 24, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin? Why is this bimbo, a has-been, even a news item? Why is she such an authority? She is brainless and clueless. She doesn't deserve any ink.
Jon

Posted by: jtisch | March 24, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

when someone beats you in an argument, you move the goalposts or pretend it's something else, or walk away.

Posted by: drindl | March 24, 2010 11:29 AM

seems all you do is cut and paste all day. ever have anything to say on your own?

Posted by: doof | March 24, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

The Republican party's teeth are tea stained.

Posted by: Emmetrope | March 24, 2010 11:38 AM | Report abuse

The Republican party's teeth are tea stained.

Posted by: Emmetrope | March 24, 2010 11:38 AM | Report abuse

A new USA Today/Gallup poll has found that more Americans favor the health care overhaul President Obama signed into law yesterday. Forty-nine percent said it was “a good thing,” while 40 percent did not. Half said they are “enthusiastic” or “pleased” with the bill with 48 percent saying it’s a “good first step.”

Posted by: drindl | March 24, 2010 11:37 AM | Report abuse

There are many citizens in Colorado who needed that health insurance legislation to pass.

Posted by: AnnsThought | March 24, 2010 10:49 AM

you mean there must be a lot of illegals in colorado who needed that health insurance legislation to pass.

Posted by: doof | March 24, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Um yeah, Palin and her 'hit list'. Somebody needs to take a pin and puncture this woman's GROSSLY over-inflated ego. The fact that she claims to have the clout to 'target' democrats for removal from congress is beyond absurd. I think the doctors really need to regulate the medications she's on. What gives her the right to judge who's fit or unfit to hold a political office? If I remember correctly she resigned (read QUIT) from her lofty position of governor of Alaska because she couldn't handle the stress. I also find it EXTREMELY humorous that she can criticize Barack Obama when he just put his entire presidency on the line in order to get health care reform passed. That had to be an un-believable amount of pressure on him. Did he quit - NO! So let me offer Ms. Palin some advice, have a coke and a smile then sit down and SHUT UP. She's out there trying to interfere in the arena of grown-folks business, but in that arena grown folks don't quit!

Posted by: edfred2 | March 24, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

drindl:
"They looked abroad and saw ruling Fascists in Italy and Spain and a rising Nazi Party in Germany and thought their fortunes would fare better under a similar regime if it could be instituted in the United States."

Do you mind sharing your source for this lengthy cut-and-paste about how American capitalists (and by implication, Republicans) saw 'fascism' as their future? I'm sure it's a very legitimate, fair-minded source without a 'perspective'.

In the meantime, you might do well to remember that facsism, at it's core, is a totalitarian form of government that constantly seeks to consolidate power and collective decision making to the State.

Hmmmmm....who does that sound more like in today's political environment?

Posted by: dbw1 | March 24, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

'Earlier this month, the Weekly Standard accused President Obama of selling a judgeship to win over Rep. Jim Matheson’s (D-UT) vote on health care. The Standard’s John McCormack first published a blog post floating the conspiracy that Obama had nominated Scott Matheson, Jr., the brother of Rep. Matheson, to the Tenth Circuit to pressure the Blue Dog Democrat into supporting the Senate’s health care reform bill. That evening, Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) called for an “independent investigation” of the White House on Larry King Live and the story was immediately picked up by Drudge and other conservative media.

On Monday, a day after the House approved the Senate legislation, Sen. John Barrasso (R-WY) again suggested that Matheson voted for the bill because of the alleged quid pro quo:

BARRASSO: What a coincidence! In Utah, a member from Utah who voted for the bill, he was against it and then he was for it. And what a coincidence, his brother just got named to be a federal judge. How do you make those decisions?

Barrasso apparently didn’t know that the right-wing conspiracy theory had already been discredited. The nomination did not sway Matheson’s vote; he voted against the Senate bill last week.

Barrasso’s spokesperson is now claiming that the senator simply “misspoke.” “I think there were a lot of different stories last week about the appointment, and that’s how he got or had the wrong idea,” the spokesperson claimed. In their rush to make false allegations against Democrats, conservative blogs and Fox News propagated unsubstantiated stories that unfairly tarnished Scott Matheson’s legal qualifications."

Posted by: drindl | March 24, 2010 11:33 AM | Report abuse

thank you Sarah, but now I know which Democrat I need to contribute to

Posted by: rcc_2000 | March 24, 2010 11:33 AM | Report abuse

"Liberals aren't fond of admitting when they are wrong; I get it."

what you can't admit is that you are deluded. when someone beats you in an argument, you move the goalposts or pretend it's something else, or walk away.

it's amazing how people like you who lose so often are still so bad at it.

Posted by: drindl | March 24, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse

who cares? she lost big last time for her views. lol

Posted by: 11kap | March 24, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse

We could still save those 20 Dems! Palin wrote the target list on her hand, just to keep it fresh. But she might forget which hand she wrote it on.

Posted by: dudh | March 24, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Palin is a boob.... I wish she'd shut her stupid mouth.

Posted by: EdSantaFe | March 24, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse

"America's leading capitalists were in a panic after Roosevelt's first 100 days. Accustomed to enjoying complete control over the government during the preceding 12 years of Republican rule, they found FDR's rhetoric and more importantly, action to constitute a threat to their dominance of American economic and political life.

They looked abroad and saw ruling Fascists in Italy and Spain and a rising Nazi Party in Germany and thought their fortunes would fare better under a similar regime if it could be instituted in the United States.

These were men of action: Rene DuPont of the chemical fortune, the Heinz family, several wealthy men connected with J. P. Morgan includng Thomas Lamont, and Prescott Bush whose connections with the Nazis continued through 1942. Politicians were included as well as Wall Street interests.

Their plan was to overthrow the government of the United States.

Their plan depended upon three distinct elements:

The Public Face: The American Liberty League Funded by the DuPonts and U.S. Steel, General Motors, General Foods, Standard Oil, Birdseye, Colgate, Heinz Foods, Chase National Bank, and Goodyear Tire and Rubber Company, the League was "the front for the whole thing" according to Gerald MacGuire, the New York City stockbroker who was one of the conspirators.

Fascist thugs like the Black Legion, the Silver Shirts, and of course, the Ku Klux Klan. The Black Legion was organized into arson squads, execution squads and anti-Communist squads. They wore a skull and crossbones on their uniforms to boast about the Communists they had murdered.

The Super Soldiers, an army of 500,000 veterans mobilized by the American Legion. The troops would gather in Washington, surround the White House and demand Roosevelt's resignation. If he said no, they would kill him.

The conspirators needed a trusted, charismatic leader for their private army, and tried to recruit retired Marine General Smedley Butler.

This was their mistake because Butler had no use for these capitalists. He led MacGuire and his backers on long enough to get the details of the plot, then blew the whistle on them."

Posted by: drindl | March 24, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse

I think Ms. Palin has damaged her party far more than need be. If she had not been on the ticket, the Republicans would be in the White House. Thank you Ms. Palin for ensuring that the Democrats retain their power.

Posted by: hakafos44 | March 24, 2010 11:23 AM | Report abuse

After reading all the posts this AM, at least in this forum, the repeated thread of "anger" keeps emerging. It seems obvious that the only Americans who are angry are the mindless followers of Pawn Palin, Limpballs, Turdblossum, Mac & Cheese for Brains, etc. who not only show no desire to quench the hate, but obviously gleefully perpetuate it. This is so sad that a once great political party has now become so shameful. 223 days until
SWEET TUESDAY, GO DEMS!! President Obama
will be visiting my state tomorrow, and we
will see what REAL support of a politician
truly is. Sure hope that Dems don't stoop to the rattlesnake belly tactics of the repukicans.

Posted by: patriotgmalou | March 24, 2010 11:23 AM | Report abuse

yesterday faux news and the radical right here promoted more paranoia that POTUS Obam would not sign the Executive Order regarding funding for abortion. Wrong again, its being done today in the oval office.

Posted by: leichtman1 | March 24, 2010 11:22 AM | Report abuse

somebody here needs a refill on their government provided meds.

Posted by: Zouk_is_King | March 24, 2010 11:22 AM | Report abuse

dbw1 writes
"The last guy was 15 years ago? Republicans have proposed many reforms, and were locked out of the discussions for nearly a year..."

After killing the Clinton plan, the GOP never raised the issue on their own; certainly not in the form of comprehensive reform of the system. I do concede that they have long argued for tort reform as some kind of magic bullet, though healthcare economists say the effect would have a minimal affect on costs & do nothing to expand coverage.

dbw1 continues
"The problem is that the Democrats continue to believe that the only solution ever acceptable to any problem is a new or vastly expanded federal government program. They will accept no other proposed solutions."

To the extent that your statement about Dems is true (which is to say, not entirely, but its not false either), the value of Republicans has been to reign in the Dems/Liberals innate inclination to use government to solve every problem. I'm extremely sympathetic to the view that non-governmental solutions are preferred to just creating a new fed program & raising taxes or adding to the deficit. However, the market has clearly failed to address the healthcare needs of our population. There isn't much to be said for our existing system beyond it not being run by government. The rate of HC cost inflation is unsustainable. The lack of affordable coverage for large portions of the population puts the cost burden (invisibly, through ER visits & medicaid) on those of us who can afford insurance - or who have jobs that provide it. Which is another flaw - it is ridiculous that the default source of health insurance is one's employer. Point being, the Repubs' attitude that the market will solve all problems is clearly wrong and, in this case, is a disservice to all Americans - both those who can't afford health insurance, and those who can and end up inderectly supporting the indigent through higher costs (i.e. for unpaid ER visits).

The larger point is that neither the GOP held Congress for most of the Clinton administration, nor the GOP held Congress & White House for most of the Bush jr administration broached the subject of health care reform. What the Dems have come up with isn't a perfect solution, but in the absence of a rational, comprehensive alternative, we should take what we can get & be prepared to modify the program as its positives and negatives are identified.

Lastly, several Repub ideas were incorporated into the bill. Not tort reform & not the idea of allowing interstate sale of insurance. What is perhaps most amusing about the latter is that the Repubs are shouting 'states rights' and 'Fed overreach' in reaction to the current plan, but their own plan is to override states' right to regulate the insurance industry within their borders in favor of allowing nationwide sales of health insurance.

Posted by: bsimon1 | March 24, 2010 11:21 AM | Report abuse

"For more than a century, any idea, no matter how violent or rebellious, can be advocated and promoted in America as long as it's Right Wing. In fact, the Radical Right has been allowed, sometimes invited, to wage terrorism against citizens and even parts of the government while that same government expended considerable resources to harass, imprison and murder Leftists for doing nothing more than exercising Constitutional rights.

Let's take that tour through the history of the last 100 years and compare how American justice has treated the Right and Left wings.

The 1910s: The Klan and the Wobblies

America was anything but a united country as it entered the First World War. A growing Socialist and labor movement in the North coincided with growing restiveness among the South's African-American population as it struggled to survive under Jim Crow.

The response of the Democratic Wilson Administration was two-fold. First, the southern-born President saw fit to endorse tacitly a revival of the Radical Right Ku Klux Klan. After viewing D. W. Griffith's Birth of a Nation, a film glorifying the first Reconstruction period incarnation of the Klan, Wilson was reported to praise it:

It is like writing history with lightning, and my only regret is that it is all so terribly true.

The Klan soon went to work, lynching black soldiers returning from the First World War, opposing unions and harassing Jews and Catholics.

In Ocoee, Florida, the Klan resorted to mass terrorist tacticsto destroy a prosperous, predominately black town whose informal leaders were registering voters. Over 250 Klansmen joined with the white citizens of Ocoee in a rampage through the black community, burning homes and churches and shooting anyone who tried to flee. An estimated 50 people were killed while another 450 fled for their lives into the night. The Klansmen remained "on guard" after the terror spree to prevent the black citizens from returning.

No one was even arrested for the crime."

Posted by: drindl | March 24, 2010 11:20 AM | Report abuse

Only people who are interested in Palin is white boys like Cilliza....He reminds me of "Tweety"....so much saliva around their mouths!

urggggg! who would want to see that on television????

Posted by: dove369 | March 24, 2010 11:20 AM | Report abuse

'The SPLC has identified 512 groups, including "patriots" and militias, which it accuses of pushing extreme anti-government doctrines or promoting political conspiracy theories. It says that many are not directly involved in violence but help feed extremism.

States with several groups include: Texas (52 groups including American Patriots for Freedom Foundation, Central Texas Militia, Texas Well Regulated Militia); Michigan (47 including Northern Michigan Backyard Protection Militia); California (22 including State of California Unorganized Militia, Northern California State Militia, American Armenian Militia, Freedom Force International); Indiana (21 including Indiana Sedentary Militia, Indiana Citizens Volunteer Militia, 3rd Brigade); New York (17 including Empire State Militia); Oregon (14 including Oregon Militia Corps) and Kentucky (13 including Kentucky State Militia – Ohio Valley Command).'

Posted by: drindl | March 24, 2010 11:18 AM | Report abuse

That Palin -- the ex-Governor who chose to relinquish her post for money -- has any impact at all upon the right-wingers, underscores the plight the fundies and ultra-conservatives are in. It will take a lot more than a "mini-Woodstock" in Searchlight, Nevada and a "hit-list" to get them out of it. "Don't Tread On Me," is not solely the slogan of the so-called Tea Party. It is part of the character of all Americans, and the bulk of us are getting very tired of the Palin-led wing-nuts and their shenanigans.

Posted by: tobeimean | March 24, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

'How far such language is now part of the mainstream political discourse was confirmed by Politico today, which reported that it had obtained a Republican national committee document detailing plans to raise election funds with "an aggressive campaign capitalising on 'fear' of President Barack Obama" and a promise to "save the country from trending toward socialism".

In the presentation, the administration is portrayed as "the Evil Empire", and Obama as the Joker in Batman.

Patriot groups and militias are planning a march on Washington next month ostensibly in defence of the right to carry guns."

Posted by: drindl | March 24, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

"The signs of growing radicalisation are everywhere. Armed men have come to Obama speeches bearing signs suggesting that the 'tree of liberty' needs to be 'watered' with 'the blood of tyrants'. The Conservative Political Action Conference held this February was co-sponsored by groups like the John Birch Society, which believes President Eisenhower was a communist agent, and Oath Keepers, a patriot outfit formed last year that suggests, in thinly veiled language, that the government has secret plans to declare martial law and intern patriotic Americans in concentration camps," the SPLC said.

The report says that, unlike during the 1990s, the patriot movement's core ideas are more widely propagated and accepted by prominent politicians and some in the mass media, such as the Fox News presenter Glenn Beck.

"As the movement has exploded, so has the reach of its ideas, aided and abetted by commentators and politicians in the ostensible mainstream," said the report. "Beck, for instance, reinvigorated a key patriot conspiracy theory – the charge that the federal emergency management agency is secretly running concentration camps."

Posted by: drindl | March 24, 2010 11:16 AM | Report abuse

dbw, we are talking about health care. But we are allowed to highlight what I shall generously call "specious" claims that Republicans would have voted for the bill if they got some concessions. Which they did get in the bill.

Look, if Republicans want their policy ideas to be incorporated, they simply must provide votes. That's how it works. If they find it's preferable politically to just block everything, then that's their choice, but don't complain when policy ideas aren't implemented. (which, of course they were in the health care bill)

Posted by: DDAWD | March 24, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

drindl:

Anyone else find it amusing that drindl continues their cutting-and-pasting, but can't seem to find the time to address their statement that there is "NO violence, NO intimidation, and NO threats anywhere on the Left"?

Liberals aren't fond of admitting when they are wrong; I get it.

Posted by: dbw1 | March 24, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Wonderful World -- thank you. I am a writer but not a pundit. I just pun for the phun of it.

Posted by: drindl | March 24, 2010 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Koko3:

Had you actually read the article you are commenting on, Gov. Palin's next stops are Arizona and Nevada. Please do try to keep up.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 24, 2010 11:09 AM | Report abuse

How about those heroic students at the University of Ottawa? They shut hate down....big mouthed Ann Coulter was silenced.

Posted by: AnnsThought | March 24, 2010 11:09 AM | Report abuse

DDAWD:
"Like, remember, that one time? In the stimulus bill? Where a whole bunch of tax cuts were added? And then w whole bunch of Republicans voted for the bill to reflect the concessions made on their behalf!"

Yes, I do remember. I remember the tax cuts being added to gain the votes of a small number of moderate Republicans...who then promptly voted for the bill.

Now let's try this one: remember how Obama said if the stimulus bill was passed, unemployment wouldn't go over 8%? Remember that one?

Or how about how Obama, Pelosi, and Reid demanded votes on the stimulus bill within hours of it's final printing, arguing that it had to be passed RIGHT AWAY, we must not delay, or else we face certain peril! In fact, they were so insistant that the vote be taken the same day the bill was printed (on a Friday) that they flew my Senator Sherrod Brown back to Washington from Ohio to cast the final vote, because they couldn't wait for 3 more days for his scheduled return...the stimulus HAD to be passed that fast for us to avert economic collapse of never-before-seen proportions!

Then, nearly a year later with unemployment at 10% and most of the stimulus obviously not accomplishing anything, Obama and Biden argued that they knew all along that the stimulus was going to take months or even a couple years to kick in! Remember that?

By the way, I thought we were talking health care, but if the Fix decides to post something on the stimulus I would be glad to take that one up as well. I work for a manufacturing business that had to make layoffs BECAUSE of the stimulus. That's a fact, and one that I'm guessing is not included in the White House's laughable calculation of "jobs created or saved".

Posted by: dbw1 | March 24, 2010 11:08 AM | Report abuse

How about those heroic students at the University of Ottawa? They shut hate down....big mouthed Ann Coulter was silenced.

Posted by: AnnsThought | March 24, 2010 11:08 AM | Report abuse

The political party that promoted the slavery of Africans, established Jim Crow laws, created the Ku Klux Klan, refused to follow court orders barring segregation—and so on and so on—is now is full raging power within the borders of the United States of America. However, this time only the colors of its victims’ skins appear to have changed. This time, people from ALL ethnic backgrounds are being enslaved by the US Marxist Party’s (aka former “Democrat Party”) overseers and rulers. And this time, the tyrants will not allow something like ‘free elections’ to take them out.

Posted by: Zouk_is_King | March 24, 2010 11:08 AM | Report abuse

There have been efforts by the democrats to define everyone in the Tea Party Movement by the actions of a few.


Clearly, if that logic is valid, then the democrats would not object to going to any Courthouse in America and defining all blacks in the country by the few who are on trial as criminals.


This effort by the democrats is silly - and it is destracting the country from the MASSIVE GOVERNMENT PROGRAM AND THE MASSIVE TAXES WHICH ARE BEING IMPOSED ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AGAINST THEIR WILL.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 24, 2010 11:08 AM | Report abuse

'Already there are signs of … violence emanating from the radical right. Since the installation of Barack Obama, rightwing extremists have murdered six law enforcement officers. Racist skinheads and others have been arrested in alleged plots to assassinate the nation's first black president. One man from Brockton, Massachusetts – who told police he had learned on white supremacist websites that a genocide was under way against whites – is charged with murdering two black people and planning to kill as many Jews as possible on the day after Obama's inauguration. Most recently, a rash of individuals with anti-government, survivalist or racist views have been arrested in a series of bomb cases."

The report says the patriot movement has "made significant inroads into the conservative political scene" in part driven by a growing view of the US administration "as part of a plot to impose 'one-world government' on liberty-loving Americans".

Posted by: drindl | March 24, 2010 11:07 AM | Report abuse

heard that story drindl last night. Sounds pretty mainstream these days.

Posted by: leichtman1 | March 24, 2010 11:06 AM | Report abuse

The US is facing a surge in anti-government extremist groups and armed militias, driven by deepening hostility on the right to Barack Obama, anger over the economy, and the increasing propagation of conspiracy theories by parts of the mass media such as Fox News.

The Southern Poverty Law Centre, the US's most prominent civil rights group focused on hate organisations, said in a report that extremist "patriot" groups "came roaring back to life" last year as their number jumped nearly 250% to more than 500 with deepening ties to conservative mainstream politics.

The SPLC report, called Rage on the Right, said the rise in extremist groups was "a cause for grave concern" given their propensity to use violence during their heyday in the 90s, most notably with the Oklahoma City bombing that killed 168 people. It added that the issues driving support for such groups were increasingly populist and that "signs of growing radicalisation are everywhere".

"Patriot groups have been fuelled by anger over the changing demographics of the country, the soaring public debt, the troubled economy and an array of initiatives by President Obama that have been branded "socialist" or even "fascist" by his political opponents," the report said.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/04/us-surge-rightwing-extremist-groups

Posted by: drindl | March 24, 2010 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Pit Bull Palin and her number 1 Dude. You can tell in one glance, whose wearin' the panties in that household. Pit Bull Palin and her lipstick attitude. You can't kiss her, can't kill her. Pit Bull Palin and those sardonic, wicked framed eyes. Staring down those wolves. A killer at ten thousand feet; severed paws the final trophy. What a noteworthy and extraordinary act of achievement.

The God fearing, God-is-on-our-side crowd. The nasty, preachy Christian swarm. On the march! A Western version of the Taliban. The borne-again's, the multi-headed Christian evangelists. The false profits, with their multimillion-dollar compensations for bringing the message of peace, love and forgiveness ... no meanness, to the masses. Jesus must be rolling in his grave. I'd just love to be a Praying Mantis on the wall when these so called men and women of GOD go before the BIG DOG for their entrance interview. Think they'll be given the keys to the magic kingdom? Extremists, army's of fanatical Religious zealots, driven by greed, control and power in this life, intolerant of the very world God created. Preaching salvation and bliss in the next life for those who believe and eternal damnation to all non believers. The Theory of Evolution will not be tolerated. Charles Darwin is Satin, Science is the Anti-Christ. Global warming is a left wing conspiracy and the Sun isn't yellow it's chicken ... thanks Bob. Goose-step is resurrected before our very eyes(The Lion and the Unicorn).

Here comes the magnum killing machine. Hey! she says, with that cute little smile, I'm not so mean.
Here comes the magnum killing machine. Hey! she says, with that cute little smile, I'm not so mean.

Give us a wink and that little girl talk. Truth's just a nuisance, we got nukes on own block. Look out Russia! We're comin to getya! You betcha! Pit Bull Palin and her number 1 Dude. You can get anywhere, by just being rude. Pit Bull Palin and her number 1 dude, ignorance is bliss, just put on an attitude. Yeah, Pit Bull Palin, she's a real wild child. There's black gold in those hills and natures wonders to gut, before she's finished Alaska will be clear cut. Alaska the Socialist State the most heavely subsidized state in the union.

Posted by: morphylius | March 24, 2010 11:05 AM | Report abuse

hootie1fan:

I've donated to SarahPAC, and I'm pretty grassroots as an old retired white guy.

bsimon1:

I couldn't find a link on the Arkansas Dem Party chairman shooter. Let me know if you find a link on the Pentagon shooter.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 24, 2010 11:03 AM | Report abuse


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Rochester/Niagara Falls, N.Y. -- The same day a brick crashed through her Niagara Falls office, Rep. Louise Slaughter (D) says her staff discovered an assassination threat aimed at her children. The Democratic headquarters in Rochester was also targeted.

http://www.13wham.com/news/local/story/Health-Care-Reform-Leads-to-Threats/TAZWZcN

Posted by: drindl | March 24, 2010 11:03 AM | Report abuse

37th, it's all about Palin. She makes Democrats froth at the mouth and makes Republicans squirt out the penis. At least for us, we don't have to change our underwear and take a whole bunch of naps.

Posted by: DDAWD | March 24, 2010 11:02 AM | Report abuse

Next stop for Sarah Palin, Dancing with the Stars, if she's lucky.

Posted by: Koko3 | March 24, 2010 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Yawn....Only the Right-wing fringe cares about who Palin is targeting. She is after the bucks period.

Posted by: sharronkm | March 24, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

what you "heard" from Michelle Maulkin.
He was a right wing govt hater, irs hater, education disbander, property rights extremist who hadn't voted in 5 years but once proclaimed he was going to vote against POTUS Bush, certainly had nothing in common with any D, in any fashion. Its more unfounded moral equivalency by the radical right to justify their racists, homophobic, spitting and rudeness towards honorable men and women in the US Congress.

Posted by: leichtman1 | March 24, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: drindl | March 24, 2010 10:59 AM | Report abuse

"On Friday, former militia leader Mike Vanderboegh called for anti-Democratic vandalism across the country to protest the health care bill.

Vanderboegh posted the call for action Friday on his blog, “Sipsey Street Irregulars.” Referring to the health care reform bill as “Nancy Pelosi’s Intolerable Act,” he told followers to send a message to Democrats.

“We can break their windows,” he said. “Break them NOW. And if we do a proper job, if we break the windows of hundreds, thousands, of Democrat party headquarters across this country, we might just wake up enough of them to make defending ourselves at the muzzle of a rifle unnecessary.”

And, apparently in response, there were attacks in–at least–Wichita, KS, Tucson, AZ, Rochester, NY, Niagara Falls, NY. Vanderboegh has proudly claimed credit for the coordinated attacks.


Does this "make defending ourselves at the muzzle of a rifle unnecessary" mean that unless the Democrats stop passing legislation they don't like (wake up) they'll start shooting them? If not, what does he mean? And for whom is he speaking?

Meanwhile, we have the Republican Vice Presidential nominee issuing this tweet today:

Don't retreat. RELOAD. '

Posted by: drindl | March 24, 2010 10:57 AM | Report abuse

drindl:
"tkae the white supremacist who killed a guard at the holocaust museum. take the guy who walked into a church last year and shot up the congregation because he heard they were 'liberals' -- Glenn Beck listener no doubt."

I've noticed that 'drindl' is probably the worst on the board at continuing to post left-wing talking points, never backed up by legitimate sources. It's clear 'drindl' has an emotionally driven ideological point of view, but doesn't have the capacity to actually argue with any facts.

At least those like bsimon and mark_in_austin are usually capable of sourcing their statements, even if I don't agree with the conclusions.

C'mon, 'drindl', you need to do better. I will give you partial credit though that at least you aren't like 'scrivener', who only seems to be able to copy-and-paste articles from the Huff Post....

Posted by: dbw1 | March 24, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

I see a great deal of HATE SPEECH by the democrats today


Why is that ???

I thought they were happy - the problem is no one wants their health care plan - and they thought that somehow everyone would change their minds on Sunday night.

That did not happen.

So the democrats are back to HATE SPEECH.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 24, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

"GOP could do nothing but continue to offer ideas that were promptly shot down (any tort reform in the final bill? that's what I thought...)"

I know, totally. Like, remember, that one time? In the stimulus bill? Where a whole bunch of tax cuts were added? And then w whole bunch of Republicans voted for the bill to reflect the concessions made on their behalf!

That is what happened, right?

I think the reconciliation fix has secret patients.

But Republicans REALLY like the cornhusker kickback, apparently.

Posted by: DDAWD | March 24, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse

wooHOO!!

Doug Hoffman and Sarah Palin for President/Vice President!!

Posted by: vigor | March 24, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse

drindl -- Who are you really? You write so well I figure you must be some professional pundit who posts here the things you dare not write in your 'real job'. Keep up the good work!

Posted by: WonderfulWorld | March 24, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse


There have been efforts by the democrats to define everyone in the Tea Party Movement by the actions of a few.


Clearly, if that logic is valid, then the democrats would not object to going to any Courthouse in America and defining all blacks in the country by the few who are on trial as criminals.


This effort by the democrats is silly - and it is destracting the country from the MASSIVE GOVERNMENT PROGRAM AND THE MASSIVE TAXES WHICH ARE BEING IMPOSED ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AGAINST THEIR WILL.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 24, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

Exactly which “grassroots” followers is Sarah Palin talking about? Perhaps the ones who gave her $100K plus expenses to give a speech at their “grassroots” convention?

Posted by: hootie1fan | March 24, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Let Sarah lead you....

...deeper into the wilderness.


Posted by: vigor | March 24, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Palin is dangerous. Why would you put cross hairs on people you are "targeting". Republicans are going to have to answer for the hate they are stirring up.

Posted by: rlj611 | March 24, 2010 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Because there's money involved, Merril. Money is the one thing palin is actually interested in.

Posted by: drindl | March 24, 2010 10:51 AM | Report abuse

drindle:
"The Rs had total control of the government for 8 years -- total control."

I know 'facts' are your perpetual enemy, but 8 years of total control? Do you own a history book?

Posted by: dbw1 | March 24, 2010 10:50 AM | Report abuse

The Democrats who voted for the heath care reform bill will be on my list of honor.That is all that matters to me. They were very courageous in voting for this legislation.

Posted by: OhMy | March 24, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse

So Palin has proclaimed that Colorado's 3rd and 4th Districts are targets....how easy is that. These districts are the western slope of Colorado, and the eastern plains of Colorado. Not heavily populated areas. She's pinned bullseyes on Betsy Markey and John Salazar.

Note she doesn't dare attempt to attack the Districts within the Denver metro area.

Republicans listen up. We are going to fight you. There are many citizens in Colorado who needed that health insurance legislation to pass. They just could not get health insurance,,,and now they will be able to. Take those pink slips and park them where the sun doesn't shine, Ms. Palin.

Posted by: AnnsThought | March 24, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse

dawd -- i don't hate the whole state. there are some beautiful areas... although a lot of places like wasilla which are more ugly, overdeveloped and squalid than most places in the lower 48, which have, you know, zoning, laws, and stuff.

it also has probably the highest high school dropout rate in the country.

Posted by: drindl | March 24, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

If Palin opposes "Socialism" so much does she object to her grandson's health insurance under IHS Alaska's Native Health Plan.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/shannyn-moore/granny-palin-overcomes-he_b_470297.html

Why is she doing a show on Discovery? Doesn't this conflict with her creationist views?

Posted by: MerrillFrank | March 24, 2010 10:47 AM | Report abuse

drindl:
"All they have to do is be told something by their 'leaders' -- it doesn't matter how false, how absurd, how ludicrous it is -- and they just beleive it and open their wallets."

You mean like being told there is no violence, intimidation, or threats by those on the left?

Or maybe you meant being told that this health care reform will reduce the deficit? Talk about ludicrous....

I've noticed that not only drindl, but no other left-winger on here has bothered to try to argue the ridiculous math used to arrive at the silly conclusion that the health care bill will reduce the deficit. I assume it's because you can't, but I'm willing to read any posts from someone game enough to try.

By the way, I do believe that since Democrats won the last election they deserve a shot at passing some of their wish list of major reforms. What I can't stand is the way they lie about it (i.e., the health care reform will reduce the deficit). Just be honest and tell people there is going to be a major cost to extend subsidized (or even free) insurance to those who lack it. What's wrong with telling the truth?

Not that telling the truth has ever been the leftist's strong suit....

Posted by: dbw1 | March 24, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

There have been efforts by the democrats to define everyone in the Tea Party Movement by the actions of a few.


Clearly, if that logic is valid, then the democrats would not object to going to any Courthouse in America and defining all blacks in the country by the few who are on trial as criminals.


This effort by the democrats is silly - and it is destracting the country from the MASSIVE GOVERNMENT PROGRAM AND THE MASSIVE TAXES WHICH ARE BEING IMPOSED ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AGAINST THEIR WILL.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 24, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

swatkins1


You have a great deal of sexual slurs in your rantings -


I guess while you might not find that objectionable, you will complain endlessly about "hidden racism."

So which is it?


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 24, 2010 10:44 AM | Report abuse

'Republicans have proposed many reforms, and were locked out of the discussions for nearly a year.."

You're delusional. The Rs had total control of the government for 8 years -- total control. And they did nothing about health care WHATSOEVER. All they did was start wars and shovel vast, unaccountable amounts of taxpayer money into contractors' pockets.

They started with the 'strategy' of trying to bring Obama down on Day 1. So stop deluding yuorself -- it's pathetic.

Posted by: drindl | March 24, 2010 10:44 AM | Report abuse

meh, I don't mind a travelogue on Alaska. I can hate Palin without hating the whole state. I don't know what the residential areas are like, but I've had friends and family go there and the pictures they take are breathtaking. I have always wanted to go there myself when I get the chance. Just because Palin is such a joke doesn't condemn the entire state of Alaska.

Posted by: DDAWD | March 24, 2010 10:42 AM | Report abuse

The object of funny mental lust, once again receives unmerited Cillizza attention. The superfluous coverage of the squack media personality includes WaPo's prerequisite celebrity head shot.

Posted by: whocares666 | March 24, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

dbw -- you can lie all you want, the truth remains the truth. Take the gun in PA who shot 4 cops in cold blood because hate radio hosts had convinced him obama was going to 'take his guns.'

tkae the white supremacist who killed a guard at the holocaust museum. take the guy who walked into a church last year and shot up the congregation because he heard they were 'liberals' -- Glenn Beck listener no doubt.

Take them all and sh*ve them, in fact. Despite all the threats and gun-waving at us, Dems will not be intimidated, willnot be scared away from doing the right thing, as you will see.

Posted by: drindl | March 24, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse

Please. Palin can't even count to twenty.

Posted by: unpluggedboodah | March 24, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse

bsimon1:

If you have a news site confirming that the Pentagon shooter was a registered Republican, post it. I'm just telling you what I heard on the radio (or "radion" if you prefer). I gave you a link to the guy who crashed that plane into the IRS. I will go find the link of the DEMOCRAT who killed that Arkansas party official too.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 24, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse

bsimon1:
"... getting back to health care reform. What kind of road are we on? The last guy to come around with a can of gas was 15 years ago or so. How much crap is in this can?"

The last guy was 15 years ago? Republicans have proposed many reforms, and were locked out of the discussions for nearly a year...and then when it was all about to fall apart for Obama, he hastily arranged a summit that was a front to blame the GOP for their 'obstructionism'!

Keep in mind, no amount of GOP obstructionism could have stopped this reform. If it is such a great plan, why did so many DEMOCRATS oppose it? Obama was fighting his own party; the GOP could do nothing but continue to offer ideas that were promptly shot down (any tort reform in the final bill? that's what I thought...)

The problem is that the Democrats continue to believe that the only solution ever acceptable to any problem is a new or vastly expanded federal government program. They will accept no other proposed solutions.

So continuing the metaphor, it's as if you have been standing by the side of the road wearing a blindfold and plugging your ears to all other offers of help, and now will only consider my gas can that is half full of crap as the only possible solution. It may get you a littler further down the road, but eventually it will do more harm than good and then you won't even have a car that can run anymore without a major overhaul. (read: massive deficits and tax hikes)

Posted by: dbw1 | March 24, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse


"From Scott Brown:
...before I've even settled into my new job, the political machine in Massachusetts is looking for someone to run against me. And you're not going to believe who they are supposedly trying to recruit--liberal MSNBC anchor Rachel Maddow."

Alas, like so many things that Republicans do and say, this one is completely unhinged from reality."

Also, this is a prime example of the child-like simplicity of Republicans. All they have to do is be told something by their 'leaders' -- it doesn't matter how false, how absurd, how ludicrous it is -- and they just beleive it and open their wallets.

Maddow never had any intention of running -- Brown just made it up out of thin air, to use her as a boogyman to collect money. And it's working. Republican politicians must spend a good deal of the day laughing their as8es off at their poor dumb followers.

Posted by: drindl | March 24, 2010 10:33 AM | Report abuse

http://news.yahoo.com/s/dailybeast/20100323/ts_dailybeast/7269_scarynewgoppoll

On the heels of health care, a new Harris poll reveals Republican attitudes about Obama: Two-thirds think he's a socialist, 57 percent a Muslim—and 24 percent say "he may be the Antichrist."


Really? The antichrist?

Posted by: DDAWD | March 24, 2010 10:33 AM | Report abuse

JakeD2 writes
"I've also heard that the recent Pentagon shooter was a..."

I've heard that you'll believe anything that confirms your biases, whether its true or not.

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Posted by: bsimon1 | March 24, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse

"DiscoveryHD is my third favorite channel after PBS and whatever one is showing any Longhorn sports event at a given moment. Don't bash DiscoveryHD. You can see the the fleas on the animals. It's great.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | March 24, 2010 9:42 AM | Report abuse"

I don't want to see the fleas on Palin. Thanks but no thanks.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | March 24, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2010/03/senate_republicans_refuse_to_w.html

Senate Republicans refuse to work past 2 p.m.

hahaha. Man, these winning strategies keep piling up. At least they seem to not be all that serious about repeal. They have to make some noise about it. After saying that HCR=Armageddon, they can't just move on the very next day. I doubt repeal becomes a major campaing issue. Yeah, Republicans might attack Democrats for voting for the bill, but that strategy will be predicated on highlighting parts of the bill that people might find unpopular more than a promise to get rid of the whole thing altogether.

Every day it's getting harder and harder to see how Palin could possibly be thinking about running for the Presidency. A travelogue? Not that there's anything really wrong with that, but when is she going to start learning not to come across like a complete buffoon? I wonder if she really thinks she can buzz-word and white-paper her way to the Presidency. Other than the press making a whole lot of noise for a few weeks, Palin was pretty irrelevant in the health care debate. Her only contribution to the discussion was posting something on death panels on her facebook page. And no one but the teabaggers believes in that stuff now. (I was having a debate with someone yesterday. It's amazing how the word teabaggers rolls off the tongue so much better than tea-partiers. I'm so glad they decided to call themselves that!)

Posted by: DDAWD | March 24, 2010 10:26 AM | Report abuse

drindl:
"There are no 'leftist radicals' and haven't been since the 70s. there are no bricks thrown through R windows, no rallies riddled with assault-weapon toting loonies bearing assasination signs, no threats, no intimidation, no violence on the left."

I don't think the word "delusional" is adquate enough to describe this post from drindl. If Sarah Palin and the Tea Party are "right-wing radicals", then 1200 Pennsylvania Ave is currently infested with many similar 'left-wing radicals'.

And "no threats, no violence, no intimidation on the left". Are you serious? I can only assume then that you have never heard of "labor unions"?

And what about the left-wing protestors who were hurling rocks at and harrassing convention goers (including the elderly) way, way back in antiquity....at the 2008 GOP convention in Minneapolis?

Yet another left-wing talking point (right-wingers are violent hatemongers, left-wingers are nothing but loving and peaceful) struck down with uncomfortable facts....

Posted by: dbw1 | March 24, 2010 10:25 AM | Report abuse

cripes. ration should be ratio. I apparently can't type 'tio' without adding the 'n'.

Posted by: bsimon1 | March 24, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

swatkins -- fyi

37 is the resident meth burnout on this board--never shuts up.

Posted by: drindl | March 24, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

37thand0street, I couldn't care less about you or your posts. Sorry, you're just not that interesting.

Posted by: swatkins1 | March 24, 2010 10:22 AM | Report abuse

dbw1 writes
"Imagine you are in your car on the side of the road, fresh out of gas. I show up with gas can in hand, ready to help. Right before I start to pour my can of gasoline into your car, you notice that while there is certainly some gas in the can, it appears there is also some kerosene....and sand....and gummi bears."


Interesting metaphor. Whether I would use that gas or not depends on a couple things. 1) what kind of road am I on? i.e. what is the likelihood that another guy will come along & help? 2) what is the ration of gas to crap in the can? Of course, 1 & 2 are related. If the road is frequently travelled & there's a lot of crap in the can, I wouldn't use it. But if the road is infrequently travelled & there's only a little crap in the can, say 20 gummi bears & a tablespoon of sand in a 5 gallon can of gas, I'll take it.

So... getting back to health care reform. What kind of road are we on? The last guy to come around with a can of gas was 15 years ago or so. How much crap is in this can? Not enough to keep me from using it. I think I'll be able to get somewhere where more help is available before my fuel filter gets clogged, or injectors get fouled. What I do know is that sitting here & waiting isn't going to move me down the road.


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Posted by: bsimon1 | March 24, 2010 10:22 AM | Report abuse

'I've also heard that the recent Pentagon shooter was a registered DEMOCRAT.'

Nope. You heard wrong.

Posted by: drindl | March 24, 2010 10:20 AM | Report abuse

No, koolkat_1960, I was talking about the hate from the left (similar to what will be posted by Noacoler on this very thread shortly). But, didn't you promise to never post here again?

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 24, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse

CA, AZ, OR, WA, SD, NV and maybe CO will have initiatives on the Nov. ballot to legalize the use of marijuana for medical or recreational use, hemp for bio-mass, etc.

In the past, when these types of issues get on the ballot, HUGE numbers of youths turn out to vote. College campuses being a focal point for GOTV, etc.

If Republicans on the same ballot are blasting issues important to youth, i.e.; "I'm going to repeal your new health insurance benefits," climate change is bunk science, etc., they're unlikely to win.

Posted by: mibster | March 24, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse

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Posted by: drindl | March 24, 2010 10:18 AM | Report abuse

shrink that would make a great D message for the 2010 election. "America is Back. Call D Congressman X and Thank them". And what would be the GOP response, no its not. A DNC Morning in America message. I have had doubts about this recovery but the recent upsurge in the DOW is certainly telling us something about the economy. Dr. Doom even told CNBC this morning he expects to start seeing 250,000 monthly job numbers coming out soon for employment figures. Sounds to me if not morning in America its certainly is Dawn, thanks to the D Congress.

Posted by: leichtman1 | March 24, 2010 10:18 AM | Report abuse

swatkins1


You have a great deal of sexual slurs in your rantings -


I guess while you might not find that objectionable, you will complain endlessly about "hidden racism."


So which is it?

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 24, 2010 10:15 AM | Report abuse

"dbw1:

If you think the "hate" is bad now, just wait until the headline reads "Palin announces her run for the Presidency".

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 24, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse"

You're right, joke. The outpouring of abuse from other Republican candidates will be unprecedented. They know that they will have to crush her before she can gain momentum.

Demcrats will watch and laugh.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | March 24, 2010 10:15 AM | Report abuse

drindl:

"No" violence on the left?!

http://www.ohio.com/news/break_news/84722702.html

I've also heard that the recent Pentagon shooter was a registered DEMOCRAT.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 24, 2010 10:15 AM | Report abuse


There have been efforts by the democrats to define everyone in the Tea Party Movement by the actions of a few.


Clearly, if that logic is valid, then the democrats would not object to going to any Courthouse in America and defining all blacks in the country by the few who are on trial as criminals.

This effort by the democrats is silly - and it is destracting the country from the MASSIVE GOVERNMENT PROGRAM AND THE MASSIVE TAXES WHICH ARE BEING IMPOSED ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AGAINST THEIR WILL.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 24, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse

This is exactly what the Republican majority on the Supreme Court did earlier this year by deciding that corporations -- which are sociopathic by definition in being answerable only to their shareholders and nothing else -- should enjoy the same full privileges in election campaign contributions as human persons, who are assumed to have obligations, duties, and responsibilities to the common good (and therefore to the public interest).

This shameful act by the court majority only underscores the chief defining characteristic of Republicans in their current incarnation: an inability to think. And so, naturally Republicans gravitate toward superstition and the traditional devices of improvident religious authorities -- persecution of the weak, torture, denial of due process, and dogmas designed to spread hatred.

I hope the American public begins to understand this, because they have been manipulated in their own pain and hardship by these dark forces, and their thrall to the likes of John Boehner, Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, Rush, Hannity, and the rest of these vicious morons could easily increase as their economic hardships deepen.

Posted by: drindl | March 24, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse

The right wing fear machine is being eclipsed by reality. The dollar is in danger of becoming too strong, people are speaking of an equity bubble and for the first time, we hear the recovery is actually in danger of overheating by next year. Today a bank IPO is happening for the first time since 2007, along with two new broadband startups.

Smart people either never were afraid of socialism, hyperinflation etc. or they are not anymore. Take your pick. Who cares.

But someone needs to tell Roger Ailes and Sarah Palin that America is back and if you have not sold your gold yet, you better do it soon.

Posted by: shrink2 | March 24, 2010 10:09 AM | Report abuse

"At least this once a workable majority in the government has stood up to the forces of cruelty and injustice, and whatever else happens to us in the course of this long emergency, it will be a good thing if the party of fairness and justice identifies its adversaries for what they are: not "partners in governing," or any such academical-therapeutic bullsh*t, but enemies of every generous impulse in the national character.

I hope that Mr. Obama's party can carry this message clearly into the electoral battles ahead, painting the Republican opposition for what it is: a gang of hypocritical, pietistic sadists, seeking pleasure in the suffering of others while pretending to be Christians, devoid of sympathy, empathy, or any inclination to simple human kindness, constant breakers of the Golden Rule, enemies of the common good.

In fact, the current edition of the Republican party has achieved something really memorable in the annals of collective bad intentions: they have managed to create a sense of the public interest whose main goal is the destruction of the public interest.

Posted by: drindl | March 24, 2010 10:07 AM | Report abuse

Imagine you are in your car on the side of the road, fresh out of gas. I show up with gas can in hand, ready to help. Right before I start to pour my can of gasoline into your car, you notice that while there is certainly some gas in the can, it appears there is also some kerosene....and sand....and gummi bears.

You suddenly object to me pouring any of my gas into your car. My response?
"Well, you have to do SOMETHING! You can't just stand here and live with the status quo!"
"Why do you hate your car so much that you don't want it to get some gas?"

Of course you know that while, yes, I technically do have some good gas in my can, there's also a lot of crap that not only won't help but could actually cause long-term damage to your car.

I look forward to the next 6 months of Obama and Democrats trying to keep the public focused on the small bit of actual 'gas' in the can of their health care reform bill, while simultaneously continuing the shell games and lies to distract the public and keep the focus off all the sand and gummi bears that are mixed in....

Posted by: dbw1 | March 24, 2010 10:06 AM | Report abuse

If anyone lives in one of Palin target districts (Arkansas' 2nd, Arizona's 1st, Arizona's 5th, Arizona's 8th, Colorado's 3rd, Colorado's 4th, Florida's 2nd, Florida's 24th, Indiana's 8th, Indiana's 9th, North Dakota at-large, Ohio's 6th, Ohio's 16th, Pennsylvania's 3rd, Pennsylvania's 10th, South Carolina's 5th, Tennessee's 6th, Virginia's 5th, West Virginia's 1st, or West Virginia's 2nd), what do you think about her endorsement?

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 24, 2010 10:06 AM | Report abuse

to be angry at quitter Palin you would first have to take anything she says seriously. My reaction whenever I read anything about her is outright laughter, oh there she goes again saying something stupid and uniformed. Last night Lawrence O'Donnell made a big point point about the bullseyes she placed on D districts and ridiculously suggested she promoted using guns. My response was that it sure lunancy to criticize her for that because she would first have to understand the implications of the bullseyes before criticism would be warrented. I am more concerned with the complainats and reasoned arguments from an intelligent conservative, Peggy Noonan, as misguided as her remarks are, then from anything I read coming from the totally irrelevant Palin. But anger, far from it. I think Palin does more to prove the shallowness of the GOP then any other politicl figure out there. In fact I took off my McCain bumper sticker the minute I heard his choice for VP. That was a turning point in the '08 election for millions of moderates.

Posted by: leichtman1 | March 24, 2010 10:05 AM | Report abuse

Gee and we have the feeble minded, grandstanding, old fart John McCain to thank for introducing this pea brain myopic psycho drama queen to the lower 48. Thanks alot..

Posted by: sabrina2 | March 24, 2010 10:05 AM | Report abuse

leichtman, I have not read any of the pleadings. Seems to me Abbott has to raise the issue of an imminent burden on TX clearly framed. You may know that the Supremes have shattered the notice pleading rule in favor of pleading facts that are known and that make a prima facie case. The Fed trial bench is not amused - they hate long detailed pleadings. So I will read Abbott's pleading, or Cooch's, and get back to you. I think the point you make on mandates not being imminent is one that will appear in the Rule 12 Motion of the USA, for sure.

Jake, if all 20 Rs SHP supports win, I will have been wrong that the Rs lost the advantage in the playing field when the law was signed. I am wrong so often that I almost always say my post is my opinion. I also do not believe in crystal balls and do not have one. So I will amend to say that it is my guess that passage helped the Ds and hurt the Rs. I repeat here my belief that unemployment trumps all other issues now on the table for November.

I gotta go.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | March 24, 2010 10:05 AM | Report abuse

"Whenever the pundits pontificate about all the 'anger' on the right, I always muse that if you want to see 'anger' and 'intolerance', all you have to do is say the name "Sarah Palin" in a room full of leftist radicals."

There are no 'leftist radicals' and haven't been since the 70s. there are no bricks thrown through R windows, no rallies riddled with assault-weapon toting loonies bearing assasination signs, no threats, no intimidation, no violence on the left. That's all you wingers. You're the one with all that pent up anger and hate.

I have never sign or heard a threat to palin. All we do is make fun of her,because it's so easy. But I guess you all find that threatening.

Posted by: drindl | March 24, 2010 10:05 AM | Report abuse

dbw1 writes
"I was flattered you were so concerned about my post on the Fix page yesterday"

I would say curious, not concerned. Thanks for digging up the link. The explanation is likely that they didn't include an exhaustive list of revenue sources in the bill. You are correct that they should have explicitly noted and explained the discrepancy between what they report the bill costs, collects & saves.

Posted by: bsimon1 | March 24, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

Republicans in Washington can't be inspired by the words of perennial loser Dino Rossi,

"I have not said that I would never run for office. But I certainly haven't said I would."

Yogi he ain't.

Posted by: shrink2 | March 24, 2010 10:02 AM | Report abuse

democrats will get hammered in november.

"Millions of white men who voted for Barack Obama are walking away from the Democratic Party, and it appears increasingly likely that they'll take the election in November with them."

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/mar/22/opinion/la-oe-kuhn22-2010mar22

Posted by: doof | March 24, 2010 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Teabaggers incorrectly equate socialism with Stalinism, think a system that rewards greed (capitalism) is the divine preference (despite Gospel evidence to the contrary), and are shameless champions of a misguided belief in American exceptionalism. Teabaggers also fail to recognize the inherently unpatriotic nature of their failed every-man-for-himself ideology that ultimately vilifies anyone who supports public policy aimed at reaching out to fellow Americans in need. They celebrate an exploitative corporatocracy (holy creator of jobs, blah blah blah) while denigrating the little guy for being "weak."

Interestingly, teabaggers uphold an immoral, morbidly obese, twice divorced, draft-dodging, college dropout and known drug addict as their de facto leader, and are even known to advocate burning books. Of course, teabaggers fail to recognize the blatant hypocrisy within the GOP and tend to oversimplify all political debate and social issues, much like their pseudo-intellectual, fat-ass leader.

Finally, incredibly, teabaggers fail to recognize the hysterical double entendre associated with their proudly adopted teabag moniker.

Every village has its idiots, of course, but it's sad when citizens of any nation allow themselves to be whipped into a frenzy en masse by a state-run propaganda machine masquerading as a legitimate, fair, balanced and independent news organization. Teabaggers are right to believe the future of the U.S.A. is in jeopardy, but sadly they have not yet correctly identified the real enemy. Perhaps when teabaggers finally grow up and mature into thinking adults, they will see the right-leaning power establishment for the oppressive and cunning beast that it is.

Posted by: swatkins1 | March 24, 2010 9:58 AM | Report abuse

"The most striking elements of so-called health care in America these days is how cruel and unjust it is, and in taking a stand against reforming it the Republican party appeared to be firmly in support of cruelty and injustice. This would be well within the historical tradition of other religious crusades which turned political -- such as the Spanish Inquisition and the seventeenth century war against witchcraft. Whatever else the Democratic party has stood for in recent history, it has tended to oppose institutional cruelty and injustice, and notice that it has also been the party for keeping religion out of government.

Now a health care reform act has passed and there's some reason to hope that insurance companies will be prevented from doing things like canceling the coverage of policy-holders who have the impertinence to actually get sick, which has been their main device for revenue enhancement, and we'll see how they cope with the idea that being alive in a treacherous world is the fundamental pre-existing condition."

Posted by: drindl | March 24, 2010 9:58 AM | Report abuse

dbw1:

If you think the "hate" is bad now, just wait until the headline reads "Palin announces her run for the Presidency".

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 24, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse

" It was amusing to see the Republican party inveigh against health insurance reform as if they were a synod of Presbyterian necromancers girding the nation for a takeover by the spawn of hell. This was the same gang, by the way, who championed the Medicare Prescription Drug Improvement and Modernization Act of 2003, then regarded as the most reckless giveaway of public funds in human history. Along the way, they enlisted an army of nay-sayers representing everything dark, disgraceful, and ignorant in the American character. If the Republicans keep going this way, they'll end up with something worse than Naziism: a party that hates everything but believes in absolutely nothing."

Posted by: drindl | March 24, 2010 9:56 AM | Report abuse

I'm actually feeling quite optimistic about November. One mistake political parties and candidates often make is that they always think they're fighting the last campaign.

I really hope the Republicans make repealing Health Care Reform their number one battle cry going into November. If they do, they'll be hurting really, really badly.

For some quick and enjoyable perspective:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/19/AR2010031902636.html

http://www.slate.com/id/2248566

Posted by: Bondosan | March 24, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse

"Someone posted here the other day that the alternative to purchasing insurance was a penalty that cost less than buying the insurance. That does strike me as a weak mandate, if it can be described as a mandate at all."


My understanding is that the fine will increase each year, which would theoretically pass the cost of a policy, eventually.

In the alternative, perhaps the fine is designed only to be a nudge, and not a significant financial penalty. For instance, add the out of pocket cost of one ER visit to the cost of the fine, and suddenly that insurance policy is looking like a good buy.

Posted by: bsimon1 | March 24, 2010 9:51 AM | Report abuse

bsimon1:

I was flattered you were so concerned about my post on the Fix page yesterday regarding the laughable AP 'analysis' of the health care bill revenues/expenses. I posted the missing link over there on the same message board this morning. I can paste it here, too, if you wish.

Posted by: dbw1 | March 24, 2010 9:51 AM | Report abuse

mark_in_austin:

If every one of these 20 Democrats go down to defeat, will you agree that you were actually right the first time?

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 24, 2010 9:49 AM | Report abuse

If all Tea Partiers are going to be defined as racist homophobes by the bad actions of a few on the fringe, then is it similarly fair to define all left-wingers by the hateful, name-calling, sexist reactions that many of their angriest members fire off whenever they hear the name "Sarah Palin"?

Whenever the pundits pontificate about all the 'anger' on the right, I always muse that if you want to see 'anger' and 'intolerance', all you have to do is say the name "Sarah Palin" in a room full of leftist radicals.

Left-wingers and their lap-dog media absolutely cannot stand to have a woman call herself pro-life. They will tolerate Republican women like Sen Collins and Snowe, as long as they support abortion. Any woman who says they are pro-life, on the other hand, will be mercilessly attacked to no end.

Challenge of the day: find a female politician (or any public figure) who claims to be pro-life, and is simultaneously respected and esteemed by those on the left and the mass media.

Good luck...

Posted by: dbw1 | March 24, 2010 9:49 AM | Report abuse

37th & O writes
"Time to grow up."

Physician, heal thyself.

Posted by: bsimon1 | March 24, 2010 9:47 AM | Report abuse

mark I posted this legal question yesterday and was screamed at by some retired guy. Abbott and Cucenelli plan on attacking mandates now rather than waiting until they actually go into effect in 2014. Wouldn't you think that would raise legal issues of standing and ripeness and wouldn't it be more effective from their standpoint to hold off on that argument at this time?

Posted by: leichtman1 | March 24, 2010 9:42 AM | Report abuse

DiscoveryHD is my third favorite channel after PBS and whatever one is showing any Longhorn sports event at a given moment. Don't bash DiscoveryHD. You can see the the fleas on the animals. It's great.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | March 24, 2010 9:42 AM | Report abuse

"... this will be my last interaction with you."

Posted by: leichtman1 | March 23, 2010 7:46 PM

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 24, 2010 9:40 AM | Report abuse

'democrats worry about her.

yeah, i worry palin will choke on the foot in her mouth.

Posted by: drindl | March 24, 2010 9:40 AM | Report abuse

"All Sarah Palin ever wanted to be in her whole life was a teevee host. This is Documented Fact, and the whole “politics” thing simply grew out of her failure to get a full-time spot on the local news in Anchorage. It didn’t work out, of course, because Sarah Palin was too dumb and untalented for the local news in Anchorage.

And so she became mayor of a gravel pit behind a strip mall and next thing you know John “I will literally try f*cking anything at this point” McCain went ahead and chose her as the GOP candidate for Vice President of the United States of America, in 2008. And then, that same day, the entire global financial system collapsed. It still hasn’t recovered! But she has. Sarah Palin always recovers, because she has her Eye on the Prize, and that Prize is whatever they call the basic cable version of a Daytime Emmy.

Anyway now she’s got a deal to make a Discovery Channel show about Alaska, land of helicopter hunting and tattoo parlors. Majestic! It will air once a year or whenever she decides to show up for work, before the “History’s scariest UFO drawings” program and right after the one about the mysteries of pizza — apparently, it is made of different “foods” that are “cooked” before the weird middle-aged guy with a balding ponytail and a limp delivers it to you in a cardboard box covered in logos. "

Posted by: drindl | March 24, 2010 9:35 AM | Report abuse

Interesting post, Drindl. I think it has no bearing on the health care debate, but I wonder if the "Second Militia Act" has been cited in the briefs or oral arguments in the Second Amendment cases recently before the Supremes.

Someone posted here the other day that the alternative to purchasing insurance was a penalty that cost less than buying the insurance. That does strike me as a weak mandate, if it can be described as a mandate at all.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | March 24, 2010 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Mark_in_austin wrote
"Thr Rs now have the losing end of this fight, politically."


I suspect so. While the fix still refers to the national environment that 'favors' repubs, it will be interesting to see whether the bump in support for HCR grows and/or is sustained. If so, one would expect the national electoral environment to change.

Posted by: bsimon1 | March 24, 2010 9:34 AM | Report abuse


cdierd1944

There have been efforts by the democrats to define everyone in the Tea Party Movement by the actions of a few.

Clearly, if that logic is valid, then the democrats would not object to going to any Courthouse in America and defining all blacks in the country by the few who are on trial as criminals.


This effort by the democrats is silly - and it is destracting the country from the MASSIVE GOVERNMENT PROGRAM AND THE MASSIVE TAXES WHICH ARE BEING IMPOSED ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AGAINST THEIR WILL.


Everyone says the country is angry - and the democrats are coming out and saying, "why are people angry?"


Time to grow up.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 24, 2010 9:34 AM | Report abuse

leichtman1:

Just remember your pledge (on the earlier thread) to have no further interaction with me.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 24, 2010 9:31 AM | Report abuse

palin will bring the crowds everywhere she goes. she'll bring in lots of money too. democrats worry about her. she's smarter than all of them. beautiful too.

Posted by: doof | March 24, 2010 9:27 AM | Report abuse

drindl:

Then we will start running ads against Obama with mug shots of African-Americans ; )

As you know, death threats against Obama are at the same level as they were against GWB and Clinton. Don't paint with such a broad brush.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 24, 2010 9:25 AM | Report abuse

"Just wait until all cuts to Medicare kick in. Talk about death panels. This is going to be one giant death sentence for old pholks"

yea its especially going to be hard on those free gym memberships seniors will lose from Medicare Advantage and the good news for seniors is that Rs are ready to reinstate their Part D donut hole. That should certainly be comforting and revive concerns about death panels.

And the Good News for Small Businesses is that the GOP is prepared to repeal those tax credits for buying into HC. Small Businesses certainly don't want no stinkin tax credits.

"For small businesses, the effects of the now-passed health reform law include:

* By no later than 2014, states will have to set up Small Business Health Options Programs, or "SHOP Exchanges," where small businesses will be able to pool together to buy insurance. ("Small businesses" are defined as those with no more than 100 employees, though states have the option of limiting pools to companies with 50 or fewer employees through 2016; companies that grow beyond the size limit will also be grandfathered in.)

The Congressional Budget Office has estimated that the exchanges would ease small business insurance costs, albeit only marginally: premiums in the small-group market are forecast to fall between 1% and 4% under the exchanges, while the amount of coverage would rise by up to 3%.

* For the next four years, until the SHOP Exchanges are set up, businesses with 10 or fewer full-time-equivalent employees earning less than $25,000 a year on average will be eligible for a tax credit of 35% of health insurance costs. (Companies with between 11 and 25 workers and an average wage of up to $50,000 are eligible for partial credits.)

The tax credit will remain in place, increasing to 50% of costs, for the first two years a company buys insurance through its state exchange. The Congressional Budget Office predicts that the tax credit will affect about 12% of individuals covered via the small-group insurance market, lowering their cost of insurance by between 8% and 11%.

* Insurers will no longer be able to set rates or exclude coverage based on pre-existing conditions, and can vary premiums only by geographic location, age, and tobacco use." CNN Money

Posted by: leichtman1 | March 24, 2010 9:25 AM | Report abuse

Yesterday, Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli announced that he would join a growing list of right-wing attorneys general who are suing to have health reform declared unconstitutional. According to Cuccinelli, the new law’s provisions that require individuals to carry health insurance violate the Constitution because “at no time in our history has the government mandated its citizens buy a good or service.”

The truth, however, is that the Second Militia Act of 1792, required a significant percentage of the U.S. civilian population to purchase a long list of military equipment:

[E]very citizen, so enrolled and notified, shall, within six months thereafter, provide himself with a good musket or firelock, a sufficient bayonet and belt, two spare flints, and a knapsack, a pouch, with a box therein, to contain not less than twenty four cartridges, suited to the bore of his musket or firelock, each cartridge to contain a proper quantity of powder and ball; or with a good rifle, knapsack, shot-pouch, and powder-horn, twenty balls suited to the bore of his rifle, and a quarter of a pound of powder; and shall appear so armed, accoutred and provided, when called out to exercise or into service, except, that when called out on company days to exercise only, he may appear without a knapsack.

That the commissioned Officers shall severally be armed with a sword or hanger, and espontoon; and that from and after five years from the passing of this Act, all muskets from arming the militia as is herein required, shall be of bores sufficient for balls of the eighteenth part of a pound; and every citizen so enrolled, and providing himself with the arms, ammunition and accoutrements, required as aforesaid.

This Act became law only a few years after the Constitution was ratified, in President George Washington’s first term. Many of the Members of Congress who voted for the Act also were members of the Philadelphia Convention that wrote the Constitution.

Posted by: drindl | March 24, 2010 9:23 AM | Report abuse

37th:

We'll have to agree to disagree.

cdierd1944:

How many DNC "target" lists have there been over the years?! Were those "subliminal" too? God forbid some wacko assassinates a Congressman or woman, that won't be her fault anymore than Humphrey was to blame for Sirhan Sirhan. She would, no doubt, issue a statement of condemnation similar to the statement she released when that abortionist was murdered in his own church.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 24, 2010 9:21 AM | Report abuse

Are you other independents like me actually going to be stupid enough to put the Republicans or New Republicans back in office to create more chaos?

Posted by: njglea | March 24, 2010 8:51 AM

no. not to create more chaos. independents are putting them in to create more jobs and reverse health care bill.

Posted by: doof | March 24, 2010 9:19 AM | Report abuse

A RIFLE SCOPE? Jeez, they're not even trying to be subtle anymore.

"If I were a democrat I would want Sarah Palin supporting my opponent. It will make it that much easier for them to paint the GOP candidate as a extremist.'

I agree. Not only extremist, but violent extremist. Once the rightwing violence starts escalating, which it will, Dems can start putting together ads against TPers using footage of Jim Jones, the KKK, Timothy McVeigh, and other violent cults as similar examples.

Posted by: drindl | March 24, 2010 9:18 AM | Report abuse

cdierd1944


Are you serious - give us a break.


The founding fathers, after the Whiskey Rebellion, said that there should be a revolt in this country every 20 years or so.

We are no where near that.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 24, 2010 9:16 AM | Report abuse

Dick Durban just said that the health care bill was ACTUALLY A $500 BILLION TAX CUT


What a laugh.


So, the Federal government is now mandating MASSIVE SPENDING AND MASSIVE GOVERNMENT TAXES - AND THEY ARE CALLING IT A TAX CUT.


Talk about Orwellian.

Posted by: 37thand0street | March 24, 2010 9:10 AM | Report abuse

Given that rightwing violence is becoming ever more prevalent, it is interesting that you did not note that Palin showed these Democrats' districts with a rifle scope icon. The subliminal message to the radical right is what? It is not good.

Posted by: cdierd1944 | March 24, 2010 9:06 AM | Report abuse

Send Rush to Costa Rica!

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Believe me, Costa Rica will not take El Fatbo in.

Posted by: swatkins1 | March 24, 2010 9:04 AM | Report abuse

Speaking of "Targets"...

URGENT TO TEAM OBAMA, CONGRESS: Now do the REAL health care reform...

...Take Down the Homeland-led Fusion Center Gestapo.

JOURNALIST EXPOSING U.S. GOV'T CELL TOWER MICROWAVE SILENT ATTACK SYSTEM CALLS FOR DISMANTLING OF HOMELAND 'FUSION CENTERS' -- AND THEIR HIGH-TECH TORTURE TOWERS.

• Rips Bucks County, PA- based Mid-Atlantic States MAGLOCLEN fusion center as Mid-Atlantic States "Centcom for an American Gestapo" (including DC and MD).

• Report: Gov't cell tower microwave/laser radio frequency weapon system keeps 'targets' asleep, immobilized, impaired, debilitated, as community "watch" stalkers invade, vandalize their homes.

Silent torture, impairment, induction of illness -- what the military calls "slow kill" -- camouflaged by profusion of cellular towers nationwide.

Gov't-enabled financial sabotage, vigilante community harassment of "targets" -- many considered to be "dissidents" or "undesirables" by a multi-agency "action program."

"These are crimes against humanity and the Constitution, being perpetrated under the cover of national security and 'safe streets' by multiple federal and local agencies and commands -- an American genocide hiding in plain sight, enabled by the naivete of those who think 'it can't happen here.'" -- Victor Livingston, former reporter for WTXF-TV Philadelphia, Phila. Bulletin, N.Y. Daily News, St. Petersburg Times; producer/host, MSG Network Sports Business Report; columnist, NowPublic.com/scrivener.

http://nowpublic.com/world/u-s-silently-tortures-americans-cell-tower-microwaves
http://nowpublic.com/world/u-s-govt-uses-cbs-news-cover-microwave-cell-tower-torture
NowPublic.com/scrivener RE: "GESTAPO USA: Gov't-Funded Vigilante Network Terrorizes America" (see "stories")

Posted by: scrivener50 | March 24, 2010 9:04 AM | Report abuse

Two items:

The US Chamber of Commerce has pledged to spend $50M defeating Democrats in November. For an organization which pretends to be nonpartisan that is quite a bit. See Dan Eggen's article of March 16.

Sarah Palin is a witch. If you doubt me, consult her witch doctor. His name is Thomas Muthee.

Posted by: rbdave | March 24, 2010 9:03 AM | Report abuse

Besides all the cutesy-folksy catch phrases popping out of Sarah Palin's pie hole, is there any substance at all? I mean it's simple to say these little "eye-openers", but is there any "there" there? Anything? Hello?

Posted by: swatkins1 | March 24, 2010 9:02 AM | Report abuse

JakeD2


As far as I'm concerned, Rush can leave.


The problem is he could still do his radio show - and broadcast it here.

We have the same problem with Noacoler - who claims he is leaving the country - but he still might be on the internet all the time.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 24, 2010 9:01 AM | Report abuse

njglea:

I would think calling people "stupid" is hateful.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 24, 2010 8:57 AM | Report abuse

As far as I know, McDonnell didn't return her SarahPAC donation to his campaign, and I know he told the good folks at ABCNews.com that former Gov. Sarah Palin would be a "good spokesman". As I recall, his campaign events were already set in advance, so there really was no need for her to personally stump in Virginia. She made some robo-calls though.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 24, 2010 8:54 AM | Report abuse

This is just what we need. Another loudmouth ultra conservative stirring up the hate pot in America. Who do Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh, Dick Cheney, Carl Rove and the others think they are and why do people listen to their hateful rhetoric? Are you other independents like me actually going to be stupid enough to put the Republicans or New Republicans back in office to create more chaos? I certainly hope not. Let's get back to a civil society.

Posted by: njglea | March 24, 2010 8:51 AM | Report abuse

Dick Durban just said that the health care bill was ACTUALLY A $500 BILLION TAX CUT

What a laugh.

So, the Federal government is now mandating MASSIVE SPENDING AND MASSIVE GOVERNMENT TAXES - AND THEY ARE CALLING IT A TAX CUT.

Talk about Orwellian.

Posted by: 37thand0street | March 24, 2010 8:43 AM | Report abuse

AndyR3:

That's not what McDonnell said.

FairlingtonBlade:

Rush said he would move if the Senate bill was passed AND IMPLEMENTED in five years. You are aware that the Senate bill is already being changed, right.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 24, 2010 8:42 AM | Report abuse

Obama's Zombie economics has led to Zombie Congressman - the walking unelectable.

I guess those Congressmen could soak in some of the restaurants in DC - they can start looking for a job.

Good Luck

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 24, 2010 8:40 AM | Report abuse

trep1:

It could also give the impression that another Democrat will still run for those seats, so the job is easier but not done yet (why would she campaign there if it was fate accompli?)

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 24, 2010 8:37 AM | Report abuse

trep 1, I think we can all guess 20 names that are going to be featured in The Rising!

Posted by: margaretmeyers | March 24, 2010 8:36 AM | Report abuse

Jake, I wouldn't. Bob McDonnel in VA never accepted Palin's endorsement and went out of his way to not campaign with her or ask her to campaign for him. He knows that she may get the base all lathered up but that independents don't like her and Democrats Hate her. Why would any politician alienate the middle and motivate your opponents base just to drum up support in a group of voters who are going to vote for you anyway.

Posted by: AndyR3 | March 24, 2010 8:35 AM | Report abuse

Send Rush to Costa Rica!

http://www.aticketforrush.com/

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | March 24, 2010 8:34 AM | Report abuse

Just wait until all cuts to Medicare kick in. Talk about death panels. This is going to be one giant death sentence for old pholks.

Liberals have historically screwed young people to benefit seniors who are known for voting and making their grandkids pay for their stuff.

Let's see how gramps likes the turnabout. Let's see how kids like it.

Swamp Medicare with new bodies and cut all the money out. Only in liberal lala land does this make sense.

Posted by: Moonbat | March 24, 2010 8:30 AM | Report abuse

I just looked at the link to SarahPAC. Three of the 20 have are tiring. The red target to signify their leaving is disturbing. The 3 down, 17 to go could give the impression that she is trying to take credit for the three retirements.

Posted by: trep1 | March 24, 2010 8:27 AM | Report abuse

Re: #1.CC is in heaven. He can now talk about Palin the rest of the year and it has meaning. What we need now is some information on the 20 Reps that she has targeted. Are they all from the last two election cycles? What were their margins of victory? Will SP's support encourage or discourage Tea Party candidates? It is only with this information that anyone can really make any judgments. But it will be entertaining.

Posted by: trep1 | March 24, 2010 8:24 AM | Report abuse

The DNC is going to spend One Million dollars on DEATH ADS - REMINDING VOTERS WHO FORCED THIS HATED LEGISLATION ON THEM.


This makes so much sense -

Only it will be the Republicans who say "Thank You" - because the DNC is paying for the ads.


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Twenty-five Democrats who supported the bill -- including Reps. John Boccieri (Ohio), Dennis Cardoza (Calif.), Brad Ellsworth (Ind.), Paul Hodes (N.H.), Tim Walz (Minn.), Bob Etheridge (N.C.), Tom Perriello (Va.), Leonard Boswell (Iowa), Betsy Markey (Colo.) and Gerry Connolly (Va.) -- will get 30- second "thank you" television ads.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 24, 2010 8:24 AM | Report abuse

bradcpa:

The Democrats will also be known as letting the Bush tax cuts "expire" and won't get many votes from the heirs of people who die for awhile now either.

AndyR3:

At the very least, Sean Duffy does not seem to agree with your assessment. I would be shocked if any GOP candidate "turned down" her endorsement.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 24, 2010 8:22 AM | Report abuse

Is Palin's project to stump for these 20 Republicans the basis for her new reality travel show on Discovery? This is a strange way to do business but it is also a possibly brilliant new food chain:

High-profile but low-prospects politician backs local Republican candidates.
PAC pays for travel while politician raises money for local candidates and raises her profile with the public and with the power brokers.
PAC films and edits the politician's travels.
PAC sells footage as "a fun, reality travel show about American politics" to popular cable station.
Politician gets self-promoting, self-edited footage presented to public weekly as if it were "a fun, reality travel show about American politics."
Local Republican candidates get free exposure.
High-profile but low-prospects politician gets to run for President without spending any money.

I do not see a down side here for Palin.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | March 24, 2010 8:14 AM | Report abuse

mark_in_austin:

If every one of these 20 Democrats go down to defeat, will you agree that you were actually right the first time? I will post a live report this weekend from Searchlight, NV ; )

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 24, 2010 8:11 AM | Report abuse

Dick Durbin kicked Jim DeMint's ass this morning on Morning Joe. Joe Scarborough tried to help DeMint although he still managed to come across as a sour loser. Durbin was the happy warrior proclaiming the truth around the bill ... it is biggest tax cut in history for low income Americans and small business. Scarborough has been trying to use the talking point about raising taxes on successful investments is not flying. I think the Democrats are going to be the party of middle class tax cuts and the Republicans will be the party of NO. I think you will be hearing a lot of Democrats talking about Line 63 on people's federal income tax returns (1040s) and say this the amount of taxes you got back that the Republicans all voted against.

Posted by: bradcpa | March 24, 2010 8:09 AM | Report abuse

If I were a democrat I would want Sarah Palin supporting my opponent. It will make it that much easier for them to paint the GOP candidate as a extremist. The 20 Democrats that Palin 'targeted' also will now have one more thing to use to raise money from the national democratic network.

In Kentucky it doesn't suprise me that the Democrats are fighting so hard since they both know that if Rand Paul wins they have a GREAT chance of winning in November. Rand Paul is going to have to defend why he thinks we should get rid of Medicare, which alone will be the death of his campaign.

Posted by: AndyR3 | March 24, 2010 8:05 AM | Report abuse

All this talk about how the United States, the wealthiest country in the world, can't afford health care for its citizens is such bunk. Of course we can. It's all about choices. Like any budget is.

Change you can believe in for me, the average voter, was about rearranging our priorities. Making choices. Offering affordable health care to every citizen is nothing more than common sense.

I want health care available to every citizen. I want world class school systems staffed by well-paid professionals. I want world class public transportation so that we can all leave our cars at home when we go to work.

What I don't want is to chase after ghosts in Afghanistan, and spend hundreds of billions of dollars on occupying Iraq. I'd love for the Iraqis to have democracy.

At the moment, I can't afford to pay for it. It's that simple.

Posted by: Adirondax | March 24, 2010 8:02 AM | Report abuse

Look at some of the major donors to SarahPAC and you will realize that this “gun sights” graphic is no accident:

Harold Simmons – funded SwiftBoaters against Kerry and the Ayers/Obama video in the 2008 election - $5000 via ContranPAC. Bradley O’Leary (and wife) – creator of “Audacity of Deceit” video 2008 campaign - $10,000. Richard Willich – organizer of “Leaded Tea Party” in Florida last year featuring a shooting range - $5,000.

This is a well organized, well funded effort to incite and manipulate. Sarah Palin and SarahPAC have set themselves squarely in the heart of it.

Posted by: zorra1 | March 24, 2010 7:53 AM | Report abuse

The Health Care Law contains the biggest tax increase in the history of the United States!

Congress still has to address the funding that is necessary to implement this legislation. There are media reports that another 100 billion dollars will be spent on this new bureaucracy and that will add to the deficit.

Then Congress must address the "Doctor's fix" in the near future. This will add another 200 billion dollars to the deficit.

The Democrats have not explained how they will address the massive shortfalls in Social Security and Medicare, which are expanding the national debt and dedecit every second.

The liberal pundits are already pushing a national sales tax (VAT) to help reduce the defecit and the national debt.

The one item that is for certain is the Democrats are implementing "tax and spend" policies in Washington in a fashion that no sane individual should embrace!

Posted by: mwhoke | March 24, 2010 7:26 AM | Report abuse

The pre-existing condition fix for adults does not go into effect until after the exchanges are in existence - 2014.

The fix for children is immediate.

I voiced concern here that "fixing" pre-existing before the exchanges were in effect would hurt the Ds in the short run as individual policy premiums skyrocketed. My premise was wrong so my conclusion was wrong and irrelevant.

Thus, the sky will not fall, and as small businesses that are trying to provide for their employees realize that the tax credit works for 2010 there may be some positives for the Ds immediately.

Thr Rs now have the losing end of this fight, politically.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | March 24, 2010 7:23 AM | Report abuse

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