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Charlie Crist rules out independent Senate run -- again

1. Florida Gov. Charlie Crist (R) put to rest -- again -- speculation that he is considering running as an independent for the Senate with something very close to a Shermanesque statement released by his campaign Thursday.

"Governor Crist is running for the United States Senate as a Republican," the statement read. "He will not run as an Independent or as a No Party Affiliation."

The latest flurry of speculation about Crist's future in the GOP resulted from two events: the massive $3.6 million fundraising haul of former state House speaker Marco Rubio in the first three months of the year and a non-denial denial from the governor when asked whether a third-party run was in the cards.

Crist sought to turn the talk of an independent run against Rubio, insisting that the former state legislator was the root of the "baseless rumors." Crist's statement should put to rest talk of an indie run.

But, it still remains decidedly unclear how the governor hopes to make up significant ground against Rubio in advance of the state's Aug. 24 primary. Rubio has emerged as the darling of conservatives nationally and, simultaneously, has been able to cast Crist as insufficiently loyal to the basic principles of the party.

2. New numbers out of Gallup show the favorability ratings for the Democratic party have dipped to a record low in nearly two decades of data on the question.

Just 41 percent of people had a favorable impression of the Democratic party while 54 percent saw the party in an unfavorable light. The last time Gallup asked the question in early September, Democrats fared far better with a 51 percent favorable score and a 45 percent unfavorable score. The 41 percent who currently rate the Democratic party favorably is four points lower than its previous low ebb, which came in 2005.

While the GOP isn't soaring in terms of overall impressions (42 percent favorable/51 unfavorable), it has -- for the first time -- pulled even with the Democratic party in terms of overall impressions among the public.

"The images of the two major parties have particular significance in a midterm election year," writes Gallup's Frank Newport, adding that in the immediate runup to the 2006 midterm elections the Democratic party favorable rating stood at 52 percent as compared to just 37 percent for the Republican party. (Democrats picked up 31 seats in that election.)

The Gallup numbers would suggest that the idea that Republicans' near-unified opposition to the policy proposals of President Obama and the Democratic-led Congress is hurting the GOP in the eyes of the American public is not true -- or at least not true right now.

Republicans, it would seem, are benefiting at present from what we have taken to calling the "other guy" phenomenon. With people growing increasingly sour with the Democratic party, Republicans are simply the alternative. And sometimes in midterm elections that's enough. (See 1994, 2006).

3. A new internal poll for Kentucky Secretary of State Trey Grayson suggests that he and ophthalmologist Rand Paul are in a dead heat with just over five weeks remaining before the state's Republican Senate primary on May 18.

Grayson received 39 percent to 37 percent for Paul in the survey, which was conducted for Grayson's campaign by Jan van Lohuizen. The poll suggested that both men are well liked and that a trio of issues -- jobs/economy, health care and federal spending -- are on the minds of Republican primary voters.

The Grayson poll suggests a far tighter race than the aggregate of other publicly released data that pegs Paul's lead in double digits.

"Contrary to public polls, this race looks to be close and will likely come down to the better campaigner in the weeks ahead," van Lohuizen wrote in a memo detailing the poll results. "As we enter the final month, voters will likely learn more about each candidate, leaving Grayson ample opportunity to extend his lead."

The open seat race has drawn considerable national attention as the Tea Party movement has adopted Paul as one of its own -- his father is Texas Rep. Ron Paul -- and is casting the contest as a chance to shake up the party establishment. (Grayson is regarded as the handpicked candidate of the state and national party poobahs.)

4. Wealthy business Ned Lamont (D) launched his first ad of the Connecticut gubernatorial election, a 60-second commercial that draws heavily on his 2006 Democratic primary upset of Sen. Joe Lieberman.

"When he took on Joe Lieberman and George Bush and stood up against the war in Iraq, we took the notice," says the ad's narrator who goes on to praise Lamont as "fiercely independent." (The ad does not mention that after upsetting Lieberman in the Democratic primary Lamont went on to lose the general election to Lieberman who was running as an independent.)

The remainder of the spot focuses on touting Lamont's businesses credentials and his sense of can-do optimism; "making Connecticut win again," is the ad's tagline.

Lamont's advantages in the Democratic primary race against former Stamford mayor Dannel Malloy are two-fold: he is better known (as a result of the hugely high profile 2006 race) and he will be better funded thanks to his considerable personal wealth.

Despite those advantages Lamont only led Malloy 28 percent to 18 percent in a March Quinnipiac poll -- numbers that suggest neither man is particularly well known to the voters of the Nutmeg State.

Lamont and Malloy will compete against one another in the state party convention on May 21 but it is widely seen as a warm up for the August 10 primary.

On the Republican side, former ambassador Tom Foley is seen as a clear favorite against Lt. Gov. Michael Fedele.

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By Chris Cillizza  |  April 9, 2010; 5:46 AM ET
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Frankly, we need to protect America.
Jacob,
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Posted by: jacobpeters | April 11, 2010 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Kyrgistan now in crisis. Thailand rioting. Korea promises more nukes. India turning on US. Iran nearing complete nuke. Israel now our enemy. Russia granted free nuclear parity.

Posted by: jacobpeters | April 11, 2010 8:00 PM | Report abuse

Berry will not rest until the hammer and sickle flies over the world again. This present ident is a disaster.

But neither were especially liberal. Both were relatively moderate. It was simply a conservative talking point. They do that every election. They called Kerry the most liberal politician EVER. Same with Gore and Clinton. No subtlety to these guys.

Jacob
http://www.schieldenver.com/

Posted by: jacobpeters | April 11, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Berry will not rest until the hammer and sickle flies over the world again. This present ident is a disaster.

But neither were especially liberal. Both were relatively moderate. It was simply a conservative talking point. They do that every election. They called Kerry the most liberal politician EVER. Same with Gore and Clinton. No subtlety to these guys.

Jacob
http://www.schieldenver.com/
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Posted by: jacobpeters | April 11, 2010 7:55 PM | Report abuse


Governor McDonnell came up with a new one: he wants to require felons to write an essay in order to get their voting rights back.


My only question:


DOES THE ESSAY HAVE TO BE ON THE CIVIL WAR ???


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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 10, 2010 11:07 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, it's weird that these people have all descended upon my city, especially after being so gleeful that it drowned four and a half years ago. Obviously it's no secret that I don't like Republicans, but my utter contempt for these people has really bubbled to the surface the last few days.

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Glad you're catching up. For me the final snap came with the previous administration's fascination with sadism and economics-as-religion. The liars, the lousy f ucking liars, the filthy goddamn liars.

That pic of Bush shindigging and playing a G chord two frets away while NOLAers climbed cars to keep from drowning should be the centerpiece of City Hall.

Posted by: Noacoler | April 10, 2010 7:02 AM | Report abuse

1. Rubio is a national figure now, a national conservative darling as he's called. However, Crist is still the governor of Florida and has a whole lot of money from his fundraising last year, and my guess is there's more where that came from. Charlie is now catagerozing Rubio as someone taking advantage of public service for what it can do for himself. This race will continue to get nastier in the coming months. With these attacks, Rubio went from a 60%-26% lead on 03/08 to a 48%-37% lead on 03/25. What Crist is doing is working and this race will be very nasty and close until the end.

2. Get ready for a repeat of 2006, when Democrats took the reigns of the power in DC. Republicans will take the reigns in November of this year.

3. Grayson vs. Paul may be the 2nd best primary in the country right now, better than Specter vs. Sestek. I think Grayson will ultimately win this primary, but it will be close down to the wire.

Posted by: reason5 | April 9, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Today they are clinging to their anger and righteousness instead of the guns and their religion.

Hatriotism.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | April 9, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, it's weird that these people have all descended upon my city, especially after being so gleeful that it drowned four and a half years ago. Obviously it's no secret that I don't like Republicans, but my utter contempt for these people has really bubbled to the surface the last few days.

On the other hand, I do think I'll hit up the casino and talk up Obama and the health care law. Let's see if that tilts some people, haha.

Posted by: DDAWD | April 9, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

The Stupak thread reminds me of the fundamentalist Muslim reaction to "apostasy".

Posted by: mark_in_austin | April 9, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the link, DDAWD. When your rhetoric exceeds all boundaries on the first night where can the conversation go? No wonder the Stupak thread looks the way it does today. You'd think Stupak had trotters and a pointed tail under his clothes, and a pitchfork in the coat closet. The noise is un-be-liev-a-ble.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | April 9, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

I guess I'll post this in here since no conversation is possible in the more current thread.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/09/AR2010040902853.html?hpid=topnews

On the first day of the Republican Leadership Conference in New Orleans.

I actually caught some of it on CSPAN yesterday. It was Liz Cheney. She's actually someone who I find especially repugnant at the moment for her McCarthyish rhetoric on lawyers who represent Gitmo detainees.

Posted by: DDAWD | April 9, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

remember, to the MSM the 'will of the people' always means the 'will of rightwingers'.

it's hard to beleive this guy got past kindergarten. but then, maybe he didn't. doesn't seem to have a job, hmm?

"The car queer is back. Has iPed had her fill of iPad already. Shouldn't you be over at womans garage handing out makeup and hair tips for car shoppers?"

mark, it had to be king of zouk at Model Mayhem -- [to google, be sure to see cache version, for those of you who haven't yet.]

[moonbat,drivel for those who don't know] -- lonely sociopath, hates women but wants s*x, grovels at 'models' -- has to pay for his fantasies. my guess is he like dominatrix -- those were the ones he seemed most interested in.

wonder what a 'woman's garage' is? note to sociopath -- we're allowed to use the same ones as men now.

Posted by: drindl | April 9, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

I predict Obama will nominate Leah Ward Sears to the Supreme Court.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 9, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

koz/zik has a lot of issues with women. I suspect he was a bottle baby and has been cross about it ever since.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | April 9, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Sorry - I must have missed a lot. Do we know that the MM page was really from our own KOZ? That does seem likely. KOZ is an uncommon name, and CF is a common name.

I wish you every happiness in 'Nam. I have had more than half a dozen VN-American clients and have come to regard them as more reliable than most people. But my "cross-section" is small, so even having developed a favorable [weak] bias must be suspect.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | April 9, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

zook found some webpage on tips on buying a car (negotiating with a dealer) that was written by someone named Chris Fox and for some reason, he thought it was hilarious. I think it's because the website was geared towards women and the thought of women driving cars apparently makes the guy crack up? I dunno.

Posted by: DDAWD | April 9, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Mia: no idea what the car stuff is all about. Zouk is just making crap up. I used to have a 57 Belair and that was the alpha and omega of my affiliation with automobiles. No web pages. I drive a PoS Scion and don't care any more about cars than I do about sports.

My passion is physics.

I'm in Việt Nam right now and having an absolute blast, able for the first time to talk to people here. My house is ... simply awesome. I can't wait to move here.

Posted by: Noacoler | April 9, 2010 10:50 AM | Report abuse

ChrisF, was that you standing by a pink classic T-bird depicted on the web page? I think it was a T-Bird. That WAS cooler than the Model Mayhem page, regardless of the petty wisecracks.
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Bsimon, I think Crist is making his play for the centrist Rs. He watched KBH inexplicably follow Goodhair to the far right and has decided not to make that mistake. Even if he loses, he maintains his dignity and lives to fight another day. If his party is so far right it cannot accept him, he can become a centrist D in another election.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | April 9, 2010 10:26 AM | Report abuse

Yeah zouk we found your model mania page and it exposed everything desperate and feeble about you. The multimillionaire who aspires to a career that pays in the low 20Ks? Willing to learn?

The family guy with the supermodel wife and Hitlerjugend children who sends "friend requests" to model wannabes and gets "thanks for the friend request" in response?

Your patheticness us LAID BARE, zouk. And it is unsurpassable.

You're probaby fat, completely out of shape, friendless, isolated, and addicted to three or more legal poisons.

Now make another "combover" joke, there's a good lad. Getting any kids' birthday gigs? Any downscale weddings? How much do you get for a mitzvah? Eighty bucks?

Have a great career, clown.

Posted by: Noacoler | April 9, 2010 10:08 AM | Report abuse

Yeah zouk we found your model mania page and it exposed everything desperate and feeble about you. The multimillionaire who aspires to a career that pays in the low 20Ks? Willing to learn?

The family guy with the supermodel wife and Hitlerjugend children who sends "friend requests" to model wannabes and gets "thanks for the friend request" in response?

Your patheticness us LAID BARE, zouk. And it is unsurpassable.

You're probaby fat, completely out of shape, friendless, isolated, and addicted to three or more legal poisons.

Now make another "combover" joke, there's a good lad. Getting any kids' birthday gigs? Any downscale weddings? How much do you get for a mitzvah? Eighty bucks?

Have a great career, clown.

Posted by: Noacoler | April 9, 2010 10:08 AM | Report abuse

Honestly, the funniest thing about zook at the moment?

"Hmmm...they found my webpage and everyone laughed at me about it. Thus, if I find someone else's webpage, logically everyone will find that just as hilarious. It's genius! Oooh, CF8 has one. Everyone will probably find it just as funny as mine!"

Like, it never occurs to zook that the model mayhem page and some tips on buying a car are nowhere near the same level in hilarity.

Posted by: DDAWD | April 9, 2010 10:01 AM | Report abuse

Berry will not rest until the hammer and sickle flies over the world again. This present ident is a disaster.

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It flies proudly where I am, shutterbug, and life here is very, very, VERY good. The middle class is soaring. How's it doing in our free-market sh|thole? Dying away.

But hey, anyone who thinks there should even BE a middle class needs to take "econ 101," right, Ace Mc? After all, nobody works under Socialism, money can think, and the stock market is clairvoyant, right?

Gawd you are such an idiot.

Posted by: Noacoler | April 9, 2010 9:43 AM | Report abuse

About that 'internal Grayson poll', I've been reading that it was a 'push poll' like the one done in February. http://washingtonindependent.com/76350/a-push-poll-against-rand-paul (interestingly, I think the article I just linked to was written by someone who is now writing for the Washington Post.)

The other three polls, showing Rand Paul ahead by double digits, were done by independent organizations. I know which one I find more believable.

This is troubling though, because in Kentucky as Secretary of State, Grayson gets to 'oversee' his own election. So far, he has refused to recuse himself.

Given the disparity in polls, he might want to reconsider that, since if he did win, it would sure raise a lot of questions in people's minds, at this point.

Posted by: sailingaway1 | April 9, 2010 9:42 AM | Report abuse

37th, there really wasn't much policy difference between Clinton and Obama. The only thing I really remember is that Obama was against the universal mandate (which he since co-opted)

But neither were especially liberal. Both were relatively moderate. It was simply a conservative talking point. They do that every election. They called Kerry the most liberal politician EVER. Same with Gore and Clinton. No subtlety to these guys.

Think about it. Who had to tack more to the middle after the primaries ended? McCain or Obama? Obama really didn't change much in terms of his primary positions to his general positions. McCain had a lot of shifting to do since he had spent years trying to reinvent himself as the next Bush.

Posted by: DDAWD | April 9, 2010 9:39 AM | Report abuse

mooned, hate to break it to you, but Drudge/Breitbart is not a legitimate unbiased news source, see, e.g, Ashley Todd hoax. All the best.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | April 9, 2010 9:37 AM | Report abuse

Cosign. s2.

As the election day comes closer, folks will come to their senses and go with the grown-up, Crist. Still wonder whether the, er, "Kenny Chesney" factor is hurting Crist in Florida. If Crist loses, it's his fault. Crist's campaign kinda stopped after Rubio got some (largely media- and fake poll-created) momentum. Reminds me of the Deeds/McDonnell campaign in Virginia--the lesson is you've gotta campaign hard or you'll lose to someone who does.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | April 9, 2010 9:25 AM | Report abuse

Kyrgistan now in crisis. Thailand rioting. Korea promises more nukes. India turning on US. Iran nearing complete nuke. Israel now our enemy. Russia granted free nuclear parity.


Berry will not rest until the hammer and sickle flies over the world again. This present ident is a disaster.

Posted by: Moonbat | April 9, 2010 9:22 AM | Report abuse

In the light of the past two years, the Hillary-Obama primary might have to be partially re-written. The reasons behind why the party engaged in such a dra-out fight may have to be looked at more as a battle between the centrist democrats and the more liberal democrats.

Previously one could see a clash of personalities as the major reason.

But perhaps there was a deep idealogical divide at the center of the primary battle - even though at the time the two candidates kept saying that there was virtually no difference between them on policy grounds. However it is becoming increasing clear that there is a divide within the democratic party between the centrists and the liberal wings.

Stupak is one of these centrists - he is just getting out.

The health care battle - wasn't really between the democrats and the Republicans - it was between the liberal democrats (may of whom had safe Congressional districts) and the centrist democrats who had much more competitive districts and were much more electorially sensitive to the policies and message.

This is not good.

This could signal that the country is in for an extended period of radical switches in policies - as one extreme gains power - then the other extreme takes power - with a centrists in either power unable to hold sway.

History may look at Clinton and the second Bush as similar centrist administrations.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 9, 2010 9:08 AM | Report abuse

Yes DD, like I said before when CC was talking about Rubio's money momentum, Crist has tons more money in the bank, he is not going away and this one will go down to the wire.

Posted by: shrink2 | April 9, 2010 9:07 AM | Report abuse

Of course the shine will come off Rubio. That's what happens when you try to polish a turd.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | April 9, 2010 9:04 AM | Report abuse

Sorry, I forgot to say, please.

Posted by: shrink2 | April 9, 2010 9:01 AM | Report abuse

Bsimon, I think Crist's strategy is the opposite of McCain's strategy. In Arizona, McCain and Heyworth are basically two people trying to out-crazy each other. Crist is positioning himself as the guy who is going to make the right and pragmatic decisions rather than get caught up in the red-meat politics of a primary. I'm not sure which would work better in a Republican primary. But Crist has always been a centrist guy and I don't think there is any point in trying to out-crazy Rubio at this time. It's just not going to work.

Posted by: DDAWD | April 9, 2010 9:01 AM | Report abuse

Hmmm the volunteer at the 37th project this morning is showing signs of intelligence.
Meaningful, political, sort of on topic, that is all good.

Hey, could you show the guy who abuses your carriage return (Enter) key how to post?

Posted by: shrink2 | April 9, 2010 8:58 AM | Report abuse

The overriding theme is the extremes are taking over both parties. The centrists are getting sick of dealing with the loons on the extremes.


I can't say this is a good thing.

For decades, the entire political system rested on bipartisan cooperation at the center - so much so that one could see the parties - and see a large over-lap in the political spectrum.


Conservative democrats were to the right of liberal Republicans.

Discussions were possible - and a myriad of coalitions could get various ideas through Congress. Now we have the extremes first at war within their own party.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 9, 2010 8:56 AM | Report abuse

The car queer is back. Has iPed had her fill of iPad already. Shouldn't you be over at womans garage handing out makeup and hair tips for car shoppers?

Posted by: Moonbat | April 9, 2010 8:54 AM | Report abuse

Israel backs out of nuke summit.

Does obambi have any friends left? Besides Russia I mean.

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With allies like that sh|tty little permawar state, who needs enemies?

Israel will soon have to make the choice between being democratic or being Jewish. Care to speculate how those chips will fall, O Profgessional Photographer Wannabe?

Will the USA continue to have the same "close relationship" with a formally tyrannical state? How many generations do we accept as an appropriate reaction to the Holocaust?

I say cut them off. No aid, no military sales WHATSOEVER, and no sympathy until the West Bank is settlement- free and Netanyahu is expelled from office. That guy is psychotic.

Posted by: Noacoler | April 9, 2010 8:48 AM | Report abuse

Ironically, the health care vote could almost be looked at more of a "lame-duck vote" than anything else.

The idea that "you are going to lose election anyway"


Or "the damage is already done"

Think about it - the health care bill picked up some strength based on the votes of Congressmen who had already decided to retire.


The amount of calculations of re-election prospects in the health care vote was like none other. - It was unbelievable how many "safe-district democrats" really didn't care about those democrats in competitive district. Then the secondary calculations that - "the damage is already done" - that if one votes for the health care bill against the will of the people it really won't matter much in the election.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 9, 2010 8:47 AM | Report abuse

Stupak follows Bayh out of the increasingly loony left and unviable democrat socialist party.

They will not be able to hold those seats. The litmus test is now will you perform kamikazi for comrade zero?

Posted by: Moonbat | April 9, 2010 8:46 AM | Report abuse

I can't help but get the feeling there's something going on with Crist. Not necessarily that he's going independent, but with him bucking the party with some vetos this week, not to mention recommending the feds investigate some of the financial shenanigans - is he taking on the party apparatus in Florida, and trying to paint Rubio as part of the problem with the local GOP? Crist is up to something.

Posted by: bsimon1 | April 9, 2010 8:46 AM | Report abuse

Why won't Ensign quit?
He must think he has a future in politics.

Posted by: shrink2 | April 9, 2010 8:43 AM | Report abuse

Stupak to retire.

And so it begins, vulnerable libs heading for the door. That is to say most of them.

Posted by: Moonbat | April 9, 2010 8:38 AM | Report abuse

Stupak says he is quitting Congress.

Geeessssssshhhhhhhhhhhhh

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 9, 2010 8:36 AM | Report abuse

Israel backs out of nuke summit.

Does obambi have any friends left? Besides Russia I mean.

Posted by: Moonbat | April 9, 2010 8:34 AM | Report abuse

Thanks, Mark. I'm sure that if Crist decides to switch, he's just going to go and do it. He's never going to say "well, I'm thinking about it. Might be a good idea, what do you think?" There's not going to be advanced warning.

Posted by: DDAWD | April 9, 2010 8:15 AM | Report abuse

"Do you need a job? The new Obama Health Care Plan..."

No actually, but I am laughing.

Posted by: shrink2 | April 9, 2010 8:10 AM | Report abuse

Ddawd, Crist would have to announce and drop out before the primary, by 4-30.

http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/thegaggle/archive/2010/04/07/should-charlie-crist-reconsider-an-independent-run.aspx

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Posted by: ixicaovos | April 9, 2010 7:37 AM | Report abuse

Is there a deadline for Crist to change? Can he change if he loses like Lieberman did? I don't know how smart it is to even entertain the thought of switching parties unless the change is imminent. It will just look bad to voters.

Posted by: DDAWD | April 9, 2010 6:53 AM | Report abuse

Didn't the end-of-March Mason Dixon poll show that Crist had pulled to within 11% of Rubio?

4 1/2 months is a loooonnnng time. If Crist keeps his head up Rubio may lose some more of his shine over the next few months. Nothing decidedly unclear in Florida at all, except the outcome of a primary all the way at the end of summer.

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