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Biden, Republicans battle over economic stimulus anniversary

1. Today marks one year since President Obama signed the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (a.k.a. the economic stimulus package) and the fight over whether it was necessary or effective rages on. Vice President Biden, the administration's lead salesman for the economic stimulus package, insisted in an interview with CBS's Harry Smith this morning that Americans "have gotten their money's worth" from the plan although, Biden acknowledged: "I don't think they realize it." Biden added that the plan was always designed in two phases with the job-creation elements back-loaded and set to begin kicking in now. David Plouffe, Obama's campaign manager in 2008, sent an email out Tuesday night featuring a bar graph showing that U.S. job losses have declined sharply in the first year of Obama's time in office. "While this anniversary isn't a cause for celebration, there is reason to be optimistic," wrote Plouffe. "This chart makes it clear: We're on the road to recovery." Republicans aren't ceding the rhetorical ground to Democrats on the issue, however. The National Republican Senatorial Committee released a Web video this morning playing off of the much-talked about Google ad that ran during the Super Bowl -- hammering the likes of Sens. Blanche Lincoln (Ark.), Michael Bennet (Colo.) and Harry Reid (Nev.), among others -- for their quotes about how the stimulus plan will create jobs. Democrats face the tougher task as polling suggests that most Americans don't believe the bill has done what the Obama administration said it would: create jobs. The Democratic strategy -- as illustrated by a new Web video from the Democratic National Committee -- is to highlight the alleged hypocrisy of Republicans who voted against the stimulus bill but then touted the spending it brought to their states and districts. It's hard to overestimate the political import of this issue. Poll after poll shows that the American people believe the economy (and job creation) is by far the most important problem that faces the country, meaning that it will be a top-of-the-mind issue for most voters when they head to the ballot box in November.

2. A new poll conducted for Illinois state Treasurer Alexi Giannoulias's Senate campaign and obtained by the Fix provides a bit of good news for Senate Democrats, beleaguered by the surprise retirement of Sen. Evan Bayh (Ind.) on Monday. In the survey, which was conducted by Michael Bocian of Greenberg Quinlan Rosner Research, Giannoulias held a 49 percent to 45 percent edge over Rep. Mark Kirk (R). Those numbers are consistent with surveys conducted in October (Giannoulias 46, Kirk 43) and July (Giannoulias 45, Kirk 40) by the Democrat's campaign. While the national environment appears to be quickly eroding for President Obama and Democrats, the bottom has not fallen out in Illinois, according to the poll. Nearly six in ten (59 percent) of voters view Obama favorable while 31 percent see him in an unfavorable light. Among independents, a group with whom Democrats have lost considerable ground in the past year, a majority (51 percent) still regard Obama favorably while 35 percent do not. Several caveats are in order. First, any poll conducted for a campaign must be analyzed with some level of skepticism. Second, the Giannoulias poll runs counter to some of the other data that has been released in the contest: Rasmussen showed Kirk ahead 46 percent to 40 percent earlier this month and an internal Kirk poll put his lead at 12 points. The truth of where the race stands probably lies somewhere in the middle with Giannoulias and Kirk running roughly even. How the candidates and campaigns perform then is where the race will be decided. Both sides will take hits -- Giannoulias over his ties to his family bank, Kirk over his perceived flip-floppery -- on major issues. Whatever candidate can give better than he gets will win.

3. The enigma that is former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee deepened on Tuesday. First came word that his daughter, Sarah, who had been running his Huck PAC, was leaving that job to manage the Senate campaign of Rep. John Boozman. Dispatching a top political aide to a Senate campaign at a time when other 2012 aspirants are beginning to staff up would seem to send a clear signal that Huckabee is not particularly serious about a re-run bid for the presidency in 2012. (Hogan Gidley, who handled press for Sen. Elizabeth Dole's unsuccessful 2006 campaign, will take over Huck PAC.) But, then came word that Huckabee will campaign in South Carolina on Thursday -- his first trip to the Palmetto State in 2010. Huckabee will raise money for state Rep. Rex Rice who is running for the open seat of Rep. Gresham Barrett in the Upstate; in a release touting the visit, Rice touted that Huckabee carried the 3rd district in the 2008 South Carolina presidential primary. So, is he or isn't he? We continue to believe that Huckabee's unwillingness (inability?) to put together the fundraising and staff infrastructure to grow his appeal beyond the base he built in 2008 suggests he ultimately won't run for the highest office in the land. While people like former governors Mitt Romney (Mass.) and Sarah Palin (Alaska) as well as current Gov. Tim Pawlenty (Minn.) raked in millions in the final months of 2009 for their PAC, Huckabee raised just more than $500,000 and ended the year with under $200,000 in the bank despite leading in virtually every national poll conducted of the 2012 field. Sarah Huckabee, for her part, said not to read too much into her departure for Boozman's campaign. "My move to the campaign does not affect what my dad does this election cycle or any other," she told the Fix. "He is focused on getting conservative Republicans elected to office and enjoying hosting his show on Fox right now."

4. In the runup to next week's much anticipated bipartisan (and televised!) health care summit, the 60 Plus Association, a conservative independent group, is spending $500,000 on television and radio ads in 18 congressional districts, urging members of Congress to start from scratch on a plan. "On health care, Washington simply isn't listening," says on senior citizen in the television commercial. The ad goes on to castigate the "special deals" cut by Sens. Mary Landrieu (La.) and Ben Nelson (Neb.) as "corruption." "Congress needs to start over and get health care right," a senior citizen says at the ad's conclusion. Television ads will run against Reps. Kathy Dahlkemper (Pa.), Baron Hill (Ind.), Mary Jo Kilroy (Ohio) and Earl Pomeroy (N.D.); radio ads will air against Reps. Mike Arcuri (N.Y.), Chris Carney (Pa.), Joe Donnelly (Ind.), Steve Driehaus (Ohio), Brad Ellsworth (Ind.), Bob Etheridge (N.C.), Harry Mitchell (Ariz.), Tom Perriello (Va.), Carol Shea-Porter (N.H.), Dina Titus (Nev.) and Charlie Wilson (Ohio). During the entirety of the health care fight in Congress, 60 Plus has spent more than $10 million on ads aimed at killing the bill -- evidence of the continued potency of outside groups to influence the legislative debate.

5. The Democratic field to replace retiring Rep. Patrick Kennedy in Rhode Island's 1st district is shaking out. In the race: Providence Mayor David Cicilline and Democratic party chairman Billy Lynch. Out of the race: Lt. Gov. Elizabeth Roberts and Secretary of State Ralph Mollis. Among the many others mulling a run is Vincent "Buddy" Cianci Jr., the infamous former mayor of Providence who recently was released from jail after serving time for a racketeering conviction. Assuming Lynch and Cicilline are the two major Democrats, it sets up a fascinating battle between the ultimate party insider in Lynch, whose brother Patrick is the state's Attorney General and a candidate for governor this fall, and the reform-minded Cicilline who has struggled to live up to the initial hype that greeted his election in 2002 as the nation's first openly gay mayor. Republicans continue to insist they can be competitive in the open seat and tout state Rep. John Loughlin as a star candidate. Without Kennedy (and his baggage) in the race, however, it's hard to see a Republican winning this district that President Obama carried by 32 points in 2008.

By Chris Cillizza  |  February 17, 2010; 5:34 AM ET
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A few weeks ago, in a statement typical of his party’s propensity for propaganda, newly-minted Senator Scott Brown (R-MA) forcefully asserted that the Obama administration’s economic stimulus package, “hasn’t created one new job.”

The problem with Brown’s declaration is that it’s objectively false. On Wednesday, the New York Times published a piece on the bill’s far-reaching impact. The results expose just how deceitful and irresponsible the senator’s remarks were.

One year on, the Recovery Act is well on its way to accomplishing all of its stated objectives. Next time the Junior Senator from Massachusetts speaks out of turn, I suggest he do his homework beforehand.

Read more @ http://armchairfirebrand.wordpress.com/

Posted by: ArmchairFirebrand | February 20, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse

A few weeks ago, in a statement typical of his party’s propensity for propaganda, newly-minted Senator Scott Brown (R-MA) forcefully asserted that the Obama administration’s economic stimulus package, “hasn’t created one new job.”

The problem with Brown’s declaration is that it’s objectively false. On Wednesday, the New York Times published a piece on the bill’s far-reaching impact. The results expose just how deceitful and irresponsible the senator’s remarks were.

One year on, the Recovery Act is well on its way to accomplishing all of its stated objectives. Next time the Junior Senator from Massachussets speaks out of turn, I suggest he do his homework beforehand.

Read more @ http://armchairfirebrand.wordpress.com/

Posted by: ArmchairFirebrand | February 20, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

What was today? A bunch of Pretend Press Releases and Pretend Press Interviews to attempt to fool people into believing the stimulus bill worked somehow.


Obama was never really clear what that "somehow" was - despite is repeated pronouncements of the phrase "let me be clear."


Obama is sinking - and sinking so fast - the actual new risk is that the American people are about to tune Obama out - locking in their negative views of his zany campaign promises and Obama's turn to the left faster than a jackrabbit running across the street.


Many people have no idea why Obama chose to highlight a program which is so dubious.


What you have here is Obama and his people believing that if they repeat something many times, it becomes true. Thinking people judge for themselves - and Obama lost a great deal of thinking people today.


Obama is becoming more and more of a disaster.


Obama's entire agenda has not worked - it is in shreds. He needs something different. Holding a news conference to pretend that the stimulus worked -


Then holding a conference with the Republicans to pretend that Obama is being bipartisan


Then trying to get the health care bill passed - pretending that the moderate democrats are going to back the bill now.

IS THIS OBAMA'S PLAN ???


It just can NOT be Obama's plan.


If Obama does that, he will only highlight his own weaknesses - go right ahead.


This is getting ugly. Really ugly.


Today was a terrible disaster for Obama.


He is now making stupid mistakes.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 18, 2010 12:23 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: leapin | February 17, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

@ sliowa1 - Well, about a third of the tax provisions were tax credits to low income individuals. There's always a debate about the latter group since they do pay taxes (FICA). I'd call it equivalent to the payroll tax holiday, but however you slice it, that's money that's going to be spent immediately. Google's not playing nice at the moment, so can't check the exact details on the rest of the tax provisions. Given that they were inserted at the urging of the minority, they should take some ownership of their success or failure.

Someone hand the Brick Wall a calculator please.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | February 17, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Bismon,

“If the stimulus bill did not work, cutting taxes does not work to stimulate the economy. The stimulus bill was 35% tax cuts, amounting to over $275 billion.

I guess we can bury that old canard. “

Question how were the tax cuts designed? They were designed for the common Joe to stimulate his pocketbook but the common Joe saved his money or paid down debt not a great way to grow the economy. There should have been better planned or targeted for sectors of the economy that would actual create jobs.

Posted by: sliowa1 | February 17, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Someone slap fake 37 in the head, he's stuck on repeat today. Call it republican idiocy stutter disease. Unfortunately, his health insurance won't cover the treatment for it; it's a pre-existing condition. Guess he could have used healthcare reform. Oops.

Posted by: jasperanselm | February 17, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

If Obama had taken the money and just hired people - at 30K each that would be


26 MILLION JOBS


There are only 15 Million people unemployed, they could have hired everyone who is unemployed !!!

The money was diverted to democratic special interests.

Obama is a miserable failure - and all Obama does is go out there and LIE.

OBAMA LIED - OBAMA LIED - OBAMA LIED.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 17, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

TO EVERYONE


Even if the stimulus bill did create 2.5 million jobs - which is highly questionable.


Let's calculate it out.


787 Billion dollars divided by 2.5 million jobs is $314,000 PER JOB


Obama and the democrats diverted this money to democratic special interests - this is not a stimulus bill - it is a joke.


Obama has not rescued the economy - Obama tried to sink the economy under his egotistical health care bill.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 17, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

margaretmeyers


Call Steney Hoyer - MSNBC today and he said directly it was a JOBS BILL.


you fool.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 17, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

I have not seen any positive impact from the stimulous. The money has not seemed to have slowed unemployment or reduced foreclosures, only raised debt. The Obama administration would like us to believe the stimulous has "saved the economy from tumbling into the abyss" and yet they have spent only 1/3 of the money. My question is, if $260 billion was enough to "save the economy", why did they take $787 billion from us? If a third of the stimulus did it's job and saved the world then why would they need the rest of it and why is Obama pushing congress for a so called jobs bill to do what he said the stimulus did? Is this a trick?

President Obama squandered taxpayer money on the major bank bailouts. They bailed out the “Too Big to Fail” financial institutions, and are trying to take credit for having saved us from a major financial melt down. What criteria are we to believe will substantiate that?

Had they used the same money to create a short term federal agency to make extremely low rate loans under strict qualifying guidelines to small businesses that had been locked out by their banks the unemployment rate might have been a lot lower than it is today.

In addition to squandering the stimulus money on the banks, they sabotaged the governors and mayors who had been trying to get concessions from the powerful public employee unions by spending the money on these same union members who have been bankrupting the states, cities, and towns.

What we have is a new misery index consisting of unemployment and devastating property taxes and state income taxes on top of the federal deficits and debt.

The stimulus was 'pork' from the beginning. A review of the recipients identify them mainly as governmental, environmental, union and other non-productive areas of the economy. The final impact and the benefit to the economy was miniscule in comparison to the increase in power for the targeted Democratic constituencies. It was a thinly disguised payoff to the Administration's chief supporters. The fraud continues and is now labeled a 'jobs' bill.

Posted by: leapin | February 17, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

TO 37th:

THE


STIMULUS BILL

WAS NOT

A JOB CREATION BILL!

REALLY.

NO CALCULATION NEEDED!!!

American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 is what it was called and that is what it does. Does your employer know

HOW LOW THE QUALITY

of your posts is, or do you

ONLY REPORT THE LINE COUNT

on your activity report


?


Posted by: margaretmeyers | February 17, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

USS Obama is sinking
The Obama Administration continues to proclaim the strength of the nation's economy, and foreign governments are responding with a collective "yeah, right". ABC News reports: Foreign owners of US government debt reduced their holdings by the largest monthly amount ever in December, with China offloading so many Treasury securities that it is no longer the largest foreign holder. According to new data released Tuesday morning by the Treasury Department, foreign holdings of Treasury securities plunged by $53 billion in December, a record drop. China led the sell-off, reducing its holdings by $34 billion

Posted by: drivl | February 17, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

this is amusing. Barry lets the Fed flood the world with money to make it look like his policies are effective. then when inflation necessarily ensues and china and others begin peeling off debt, they complain that prices are going up.

did anyone in this administration take an econ course? Surely not.

Posted by: drivl | February 17, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

If the stimulus bill did not work, cutting taxes does not work to stimulate the economy. The stimulus bill was 35% tax cuts, amounting to over $275 billion.

I guess we can bury that old canard.

Posted by: bsimon1 | February 17, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

TO EVERYONE


Even if the stimulus bill did create 2.5 million jobs - which is highly questionable.


Let's calculate it out.


787 Billion dollars divided by 2.5 million jobs is $314,000 PER JOB


Obama and the democrats diverted this money to democratic special interests - this is not a stimulus bill - it is a joke.

Obama has not rescued the economy - Obama tried to sink the economy under his egotistical health care bill.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 17, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse


Subsidizing renewable energy in the U.S. may destroy two jobs for every one created if Spain’s experience with windmills and solar farms is any guide.
For every new position that depends on energy price supports, at least 2.2 jobs in other industries will disappear, according to a study from King Juan Carlos University in Madrid.
U.S. President Barack Obama’s 2010 budget proposal contains about $20 billion in tax incentives for clean-energy programs. In Spain, where wind turbines provided 11 percent of power demand last year, generators earn rates as much as 11 times more for renewable energy compared with burning fossil fuels.
The premiums paid for solar, biomass, wave and wind power - - which are charged to consumers in their bills -- translated into a $774,000 cost for each Spanish “green job” created since 2000, said Gabriel Calzada, an economics professor at the university and author of the report.
“The loss of jobs could be greater if you account for the amount of lost industry that moves out of the country due to higher energy prices,” he said in an interview.
Spain’s Acerinox SA, the nation’s largest stainless-steel producer, blamed domestic energy costs for deciding to expand in South Africa and the U.S., according to the study.


What do we do with all this industry that we have been creating with subsidies that now is collapsing? The bubble is too big. We cannot continue pumping enough money. ...The President of the Renewable Industry in Spain (wrote a column arguing that) ...the only way is finding other countries that will give taxpayers' money away to our industry to take it and continue maintaining these jobs."

That "other country" is the United States of America.

Posted by: leapin | February 17, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

MAYBE THEY COULD GET YOU A JOB.

Posted by: drindl | February 17, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

TO EVERYONE


Even if the stimulus bill did create 2.5 million jobs - which is highly questionable.


Let's calculate it out.


787 Billion dollars divided by 2.5 million jobs is $314,000 PER JOB

Obama and the democrats diverted this money to democratic special interests - this is not a stimulus bill - it is a joke.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 17, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse

"Bowling with Mitt"

i mean, it's too funny.

Posted by: drindl | February 17, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

"The vast majority of opposition to health care and allowing gays to serve openly in the military is coming from people who already say there's no chance they'll vote Democratic this fall. That's an indication of minimal fallout for Congressional Democrats by acting on these issues.

37% of Americans say they will definitely not vote Democratic for Congress this year. 34% say they definitely will and that leaves roughly 30% of the country up for grabs.

64% of respondents planning or open to voting Democratic this fall support it with only 22% opposed. The overall numbers are negative only because of 94/1 opposition among folks who have said there is no way they'll vote Democratic this fall."

so just go ahead and pass your agenda and let the losers scream about it.

Posted by: drindl | February 17, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

"White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said today the proposed 39% insurance rate hikes from Anthem Blue Cross in California that we've been writing about will serve as a backdrop for President Obama's health care summit next week.

"People are getting letters in the mail now. They got them in California. Your health insurance is going to go up almost 40 percent from last year to this year. That's a preview of what's going to happen if we don't do anything," Gibbs said."

exactly.

Posted by: drindl | February 17, 2010 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Did you ever see such a sad collection of aging white losers -- I mean, I read 'Bowling with Mitt' -- omigdawd. It just doesn't get better than that.

Talking about going backwards in time....


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Yes, Reid and Pelosi. And to counter your racism there is the sinking bi-racial loser pouting why his message only resonates with able bodied leeches.

Posted by: leapin | February 17, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Other speakers from at this year's event also represent the conservative pushback against the mainstream GOP. Confirmed speakers include Dick Armey, Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN), Liz Cheney and Ron Paul. But there are plenty of speakers from the mainstream scheduled to speak as well, including former Bush administration Attorney General John Ashcroft, Newt Gingrich and George Will.

Many of the 2012 GOP presidential field will be on hand as well, with the notable exception of Sarah Palin, who declined an invitation to speak at the event for the second year in a row. Mitt Romney, Tim Pawlenty, Mike Pence, Rick Santorum and Gingrich will be there, though, giving political prognosticators something to write about other than Rubio.

Outside the hotel, the social scene will be 100% conservative as well. Politico published this list of CPAC parties, which include "Bowling With Mitt" and "Late Night With T-Paw." The biggest event on the social calendar isn't focused on a current GOP politician however. Politico reports that the "the climax of the week" will be "the sixth annual 'Reaganpalooza,'" where attendees pack a Capitol Hill bar and "drink one for the Gipper."


LOL -- 'Bowling with Mitt" omigawd

Posted by: drindl | February 17, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of taxes, Obama's appointment of Mary L. Smith as Assistant Attorney General for the Department of Justice's tax division is another troubling choice. Smith has been nominated for one of the most important tax policy positions in Washington -- despite the fact that she has no prior experience in tax law. Not only does Smith lack a degree in her field and relevant experience with IRS tax cases, she admitted during her Congressional testimony that she personally hasn't tried a tax case in her life -- ever. Smith also acknowledged under questioning that she hasn't taken any continuing legal education classes on tax-law issues, either. This is the person who is supposed to head up the Justice Department's tax division?

an entire government full of incompetent cronies from chicago. Why else would anyone be able to rack up so many failures in a single year? surely no one would intend to be this much of a dissappointment????

Posted by: drivl | February 17, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

As drindl, Blade, and 12 barblues are reminding us, the front end of the stimulus bill was NOT a jobs creation bill, it was a society stabilizing bill. It kept folks on unemployment when they needed it. It gave people COBRA when they needed it. It helped Jake's food pantry give him free food when he needed it. It enabled state governemnts to go forward with infrastructure projects that would have had to be abandoned. It enabled local governments to keep teachers and staff on the pay roll and it lowered Federal taxes so almost everyone kept more of their paycheck, so that they could spend more and stimulate the economy, too.

And it isn't even all spent yet, RU.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | February 17, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

TO EVERYONE


Even if the stimulus bill did create 2.5 million jobs - which is highly questionable.


Let's calculate it out.


787 Billion dollars divided by 2.5 million jobs is $314,000 PER JOB


Obama and the democrats diverted this money to democratic special interests - this is not a stimulus bill - it is a joke.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 17, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

GET A JOB, 37 AND STOP POSTING THE SAME DROOL OVER AND OVER.

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Posted by: drivl | February 17, 2010 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Nicole Lamb-Hale, for example, was recently confirmed as Obama's Assistant Secretary of Commerce for Manufacturing. Ms. Lamb-Hale's job is to represent U.S. manufacturers to the world -- although as a bankruptcy attorney she has no real experience in the manufacturing industry. In fact, her primary qualification appears to be that she went to law school with the President.

According to the National Association of Manufacturers, this vital segment of our economy lost nearly 2 million jobs over the 19-month period between December 2007 and July 2009, with additional job losses forecast for 2010.

Given the immense challenges U.S. manufacturers are facing, what kind of message does a President send when he puts a bankruptcy lawyer in charge of the manufacturing sector? It's comparable to appointing a tax cheat to run the Treasury... oh... wait... never mind.

Posted by: drivl | February 17, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Many socialist paradise European Union nations face severe financial problems. These problems came about because of out-of-control government spending. Obama copied these foolish statists.

Posted by: leapin | February 17, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

GET A JOB, 37 AND STOP POSTING THE SAME DROOL OVER AND OVER.

Posted by: drindl | February 17, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

oh goodie -- this year's CPAC is coming up!

"Other speakers from at this year's event also represent the conservative pushback against the mainstream GOP. Confirmed speakers include Dick Armey, Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN), Liz Cheney and Ron Paul. But there are plenty of speakers from the mainstream scheduled to speak as well, including former Bush administration Attorney General John Ashcroft, Newt Gingrich and George Will.

Many of the 2012 GOP presidential field will be on hand as well, with the notable exception of Sarah Palin, who declined an invitation to speak at the event for the second year in a row. Mitt Romney, Tim Pawlenty, Mike Pence, Rick Santorum and Gingrich will be there, though, giving political prognosticators something to write about other than Rubio.

Outside the hotel, the social scene will be 100% conservative as well. Politico published this list of CPAC parties, which include "Bowling With Mitt" and "Late Night With T-Paw." The biggest event on the social calendar isn't focused on a current GOP politician however. Politico reports that the "the climax of the week" will be "the sixth annual 'Reaganpalooza,'" where attendees pack a Capitol Hill bar and "drink one for the Gipper."

Did you ever see such a sad collection of aging white losers -- I mean, I read 'Bowling with Mitt' -- omigdawd. It just doesn't get better than that.

Talking about going backwards in time....

Posted by: drindl | February 17, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse


Man, the democratic party has really become filled with hate and anger.


What started all this???


Was it Bill Clinton?


Was it the Iraq War ???


Was it the sight of George Bush ???


I do not understand all the hate and anger coming from the democratic party - what is going on does not justify their personal hate and anger.

It really doesn't.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 17, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Ah, yes, the dingbat has transformed into the drivl-tard.

Must be that one of the other voices in his head needed to speak. Redrum, redrum.....

Posted by: jasperanselm | February 17, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

– Top Republican Senate Recruits Are Stimulus Hypocrites: As ThinkProgress reported, Rep. Mike Castle (R-DE), a candidate for Senate, touted over $5 million in stimulus programs he voted to kill. Rep. Mark Kirk (R-IL), the GOP nominee for Senate in Illinois, signed a letter urging Gov. Pat Quinn to provide “Recovery Act (ARRA) funding to expand the Illinois Community College Sustainability Network.”

– GOP Leadership Leads The Way In Hypocrisy: Although he regularly slams the stimulus as a waste while in DC, McConnell has returned to Kentucky to take credit for stimulus programs, even taking time to request more funds. ThinkProgress attended two job fairs held by Cantor, where we found dozens of employers able to hire directly because of the stimulus. Indeed, even Boehner’s office released a statement boasting that the stimulus will create “much needed jobs.”

– The Audacity Of Hypocrisy Knows No Bounds: Many opponents of the stimulus have been quite brazen with their ability to try to claim credit for the program. For instance, Rep. Jack Kingston (R-GA) spent the morning of July 28th railing against the stimulus, yelling “Where’s the stimulus package? Where’s the jobs?” on the House floor. On the same day of his rant, Kingston’s office sent out multiple press releases bragging that he had secured hundreds of thousands in stimulus funds to hire additional police officers in his district. Other stimulus opponents, like Rep. Phil Gingrey (R-GA) — who has called the stimulus a “trillion dollar debt bill” — have printed out jumbo-sized ceremonial stimulus checks to present to local communities to try to garner positive press.

Individually, over half of the entire Republican caucus has hailed nearly every aspect of the stimulus as a success — from infrastructure funds, to food programs, to education grants. But politically, admitting its success might harm the GOP’s chances in November. So with Republicans fixated on winning politically, they have focused on deceiving the public by calling the stimulus a failure, while pretending successful programs aren’t stimulus funded.

Posted by: drindl | February 17, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

I will make it a priority to ensure transgender individuals will not be allowed to change the sex on their driver’s license in any circumstance.

That's Paul Scott, candidate for Secretary of State in Michigan. Trying to get the GOP nomination.

It apparently has come to this.'

you can't make this stuff up.

Posted by: drindl | February 17, 2010 12:26 PM
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Sad, since the math is SO obvious. # of transgender individuals trying to change their drivers' licenses: 5

# of conservatives who hate transgender individuals changing ANYTHING: millions

millions > 5 ????????????????????

Case closed.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | February 17, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

In the economic realm the president is most proud of his $787 million stimulus plan, which he claims saved millions of jobs, even as unemployment mounted throughout 2009. When considering the magnitude of this stimulus package, the country would do well to reflect on this nearly incomprehensible amount of money. To wit: If one began spending money at the rate of one million dollars per day, every day, on the day that Jesus Christ was born, that person would have spent slightly over 734 billion dollars as of December 31, 2009. The Obama Administration appropriated 53 billion dollars more than this amount for an economic stimulus plan, in addition to trillions of dollars in regular spending. Again, the president claimed that his program saved millions of jobs. The unemployment rate, however, rose from 7.5% to 10.2% during calendar year 2009, although, thankfully, it slipped slightly last month.

Posted by: drivl | February 17, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

moonbat has morphed into drivl again? does that happen at the strike of noon, or when the other meds kick in?

Posted by: drindl | February 17, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

'What's a loon got to do to get elected?

I'll tell you what. You have got to take firm...FIRM!...stand on the issue of ... well ... this:

I will make it a priority to ensure transgender individuals will not be allowed to change the sex on their driver’s license in any circumstance.

That's Paul Scott, candidate for Secretary of State in Michigan. Trying to get the GOP nomination.

It apparently has come to this.'

you can't make this stuff up.

Posted by: drindl | February 17, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

The United States of America owes $1.6 trillion more today than it did a year ago. The jobless rate has climbed from 8.1 percent to 9.7 percent. And the deficit has soared to record levels, with another record likely to be set this year.

Happy anniversary.

The public is losing faith. A recent CBS News/New York Times survey showed only 6 percent of Americans believe the stimulus has created a significant number of jobs.

Posted by: drivl | February 17, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Like members of the Audubon Society on a major bird-sighting mission, members of Barack Obama's Cabinet fanned out across the United States this week on a job-sighting mission aimed at supporting the president's claim that last year's $787 billion stimulus package was not a total waste of money. They found no fewer than 40 red-throated loons, a glaucous gull, 25 Iceland gulls, 220 razorbills, and several thousand Canada geese. Unfortunately, however, apart from a few sickly chicks living in federal incubators, they could not find a single job capable of independent flight and life in the wild.

Posted by: drivl | February 17, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

The Ezra Klein quote: “The administration passed an $800 billion stimulus bill that has already created more than 1.6 million jobs … “ requires a little arithmetic to explicate.

Dividing $862 billion by 1.6 million jobs means that each job cost taxpayers $538,750. Worse, many of these jobs were in the public sector, which makes them an on-going drain on an already stressed economy and tax base.

If this qualifies as a successful job creation program, I think that we have revealed the initial problem - an excess of social democrat spin.

Posted by: RUKidding0 | February 17, 2010 12:15 PM | Report abuse

More meds or less, you decide???

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Posted by: drivl | February 17, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

jasper, everyone one of them was on this board 24/7 election day, so i doubt if they even left whatever hovel they call home.

Posted by: drindl | February 17, 2010 12:10 PM | Report abuse

When the economy is humming later this year, we won't be hearing from our friends from the other side of the aisle so much. They will be tying themselves in knots trying to take credit for everything they voted against.

The voters are not that dumb. Except for dingbat, fake 37 and jokeD, that is. But they are probably not voters anyway; felony convictions take away voting rights.

Posted by: jasperanselm | February 17, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

@mm,

Good post.

The stock market is up over 60% since its recent 2008 bottom, reflecting anticipated profits. Of course, profits can be wrested out of productivity gains (fancy way to say, without adding jobs), but that only goes so far. Then jobs have to be added to keep profits growing.

The market keeps going up so that tells me that market is seeing jobs added.

I'm an investor, so I believe in listening to what the stock market is saying.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | February 17, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

thanks, margaret. we have a republican party dead set against any kind of job creation bill because it might make democrats look good. and that says it all... so much for their phony 'patriotism.'

Posted by: drindl | February 17, 2010 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Uh, that's FAKE 37, drindl; he's not the real one, just a loser using someone else's name.

Posted by: jasperanselm | February 17, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

The big story on the stimulus

The day-to-day stories on the stimulus are mostly very small and very political.

But the correct story is the big story. The macroeconomic story. According to private forecasters -- we're not talking Obama administration folks, but private firms that are paid by other private companies to accurately analyze the market -- the stimulus worked. "Perhaps the best-known economic research firms are IHS Global Insight, Macroeconomic Advisers and Moody’s Economy.com," reports David Leonhardt. "They all estimate that the bill has added 1.6 million to 1.8 million jobs so far and that its ultimate impact will be roughly 2.5 million jobs. The Congressional Budget Office, an independent agency, considers these estimates to be conservative."

You have to sympathize with the Obama administration: It has done more to save and create jobs than any White House in recent memory. It stabilized a financial system that was teetering on the edge of collapse, and that would have sent unemployment skyrocketing if it had fallen. The administration passed an $800 billion stimulus bill that has already created more than 1.6 million jobs and is likely to create 2.5 million by the time it ends. And still it's hammered, on the one hand, for not doing enough to create jobs, and on the other hand, for high deficits, which are a direct product of how much the administration's doing to create jobs.

But it is operating amid an economy that's much better at shedding jobs than any economy since the 1930s. Better, even, than the administration is at passing legislation to create jobs. The fact that the captain is uncommonly good at bailing out his boat does not mean he outmatches the ocean around him. Meanwhile, half the crew is blaming him for the fact of the waves and telling the passengers that they should never ride this cruise line again.

The president is judged against the state of the country, not against the counterfactual of the state of the country in his absence (and, luckily for the Republicans, not against the counterfactual of the state of the country under the minority's expressed agenda). That's all politics, and that's all how it goes. But people still need help, and the pity is that the Republicans can't see a way forward to helping them because doing so might help the other party in the midterm elections. Republicans opposed the stimulus -- which was one-third tax cuts -- as part of a gambit to leave Democrats holding the bag for an economy that was sure to be weak in 2010, even if their policies had made it stronger than it otherwise would have been. They can't abandon that strategy now.

By Ezra Klein | February 17, 2010; 11:30 AM ET

Posted by: margaretmeyers | February 17, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

GET A JOB, 37 -- YOU'RE PATHETIC.

Posted by: drindl | February 17, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

joe be to smart like
a sloth be to speedy.
huh?
obama busy fund raising?
let joe babble,
and then barack will
sound smarter,
when he lies?

orwellian, yes,
very very Ministry of the Truth ish'''

Posted by: simonsays1 | February 17, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Similarly, the failure of free markets during the financial crisis might have led people to think that the government should be more involved in the economy. Instead, the percentage of Americans who think government is trying to do too much is higher than it’s been since the late nineties.

Health-care reform offers a case study in this. The bills passed by Congress, whatever their flaws, would do things that voters overwhelmingly say they support: extend coverage to the uninsured, ban the worst practices of insurers, and guarantee insurance for people who lose their jobs. Yet more voters now oppose the bills than support them, with many saying that the government is overreaching.

And, while voters routinely say that the rising cost of health care is a problem, it is the bills’ cost-control provisions—including a tax on expensive insurance plans and rules to restrain Medicare spending—that have proved especially unpopular.

On top of this, many people are just annoyed with the whole process: a survey of voters who supported Obama in 2008 but voted for Scott Brown in the recent Massachusetts Senate race found that forty-one per cent of those who opposed health-care reform weren’t sure whether reform went too far or not far enough. In short, they don’t know why they’re against reform; they just are.

Read more: http://www.newyorker.com/talk/financial/2010/02/15/100215ta_talk_surowiecki#ixzz0foR1piCn

IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE INCOHERENT SHEEP WHO LISTEN TO THE PATHETIC LIKES OF BECK AND PALIN.

Posted by: drindl | February 17, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Man, the democratic party has really become filled with hate and anger.

What started all this???


Was it Bill Clinton?


Was it the Iraq War ???


Was it the sight of George Bush ???

I do not understand all the hate and anger coming from the democratic party - what is going on does not justify their personal hate and anger.


It really doesn't.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 17, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

In economic news, there was a surprise rise in housing starts last month. The S&P 500 is up almost 40% in the past year since the stimulus was enacted.

I suspect that the Brick Wall has a job. Spamming this blog amongst others.

Well, the kiddies are off to school for the first time in a week, so I can finally get into work. For those who hold federal employees in contempt, most of the people in my lab showed up for work on Monday. That's right--on our holiday.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | February 17, 2010 11:46 AM | Report abuse

The US military should take over the Gov't now and hold new presidential election right away to restore the America we knew before it is too late.

Posted by: mahalapril | February 17, 2010 11:19 AM
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Anybody else stand by this guy? I ask you--does this guy believe in the principle of a democracy? Of course not, he wants to wrest power away from the legally elected government.

And why? Because he doesn't like the government. He wants his side to win at any cost, because he's a true believer in his philosophies. He can't wait for elections.

I hope he's a very small minority because to the extent this view becomes widespread, our very democracy is at risk.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | February 17, 2010 11:46 AM | Report abuse

To Everyone:


There is no way that Obama can call a program that costs $314.000 PER JOB a success.


Talk about Orwellian.


We had a whole discussion about Orwellian last week.


Is Obama going to throw a party too?

This kind of talk that this program is a success is exactly what is SINKING THE DEMOCRATS.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 17, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

GET A JOB

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RUKidding0


Can you think of a bigger bunch of lies

Posted by: 37thand0street | February 17, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

please don't be mean to joe,
he is like an obama see and say'
the cow goes cluck!
the pig goes meow!
thank you, Joe.

Posted by: simonsays1 | February 17, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

One thing voters do want is jobs. But even here populist sentiment is at odds with itself. People want the government to help provide jobs, but they also want it to cut the deficit. Of course, one can worry about rising long-term debt and still think that, right now, more deficit spending is crucial to the nascent recovery.

But angry voters aren’t that nuanced in their thinking: they want the government to tighten its belt and fight unemployment at the same time.

Read more: http://www.newyorker.com/talk/financial/2010/02/15/100215ta_talk_surowiecki#ixzz0foP0ABla

Posted by: drindl | February 17, 2010 11:38 AM | Report abuse

'It’s been the political equivalent of an intervention: in recent weeks, Democrats have been bombarded with advice about how they should reinvent their economic agenda. The electorate, we hear, wants Barack Obama to be more of an economic populist but less of an ambitious reformer.

He has to aggressively create jobs but also be less spendthrift. This advice may be contradictory, but then so are the economic opinions of the many angry voters who are animating what’s being called the new populism.

Whereas the economic populism of the eighteen-nineties and the right-wing cultural populism of recent years represented reasonably coherent ideologies, this new populism has stitched together incompatible concerns and goals into one “I’m mad as hell” quilt. The people may have spoken. It’s just that they’re not making any sense.

Read more: http://www.newyorker.com/talk/financial/2010/02/15/100215ta_talk_surowiecki#ixzz0foOBDUxt

Posted by: drindl | February 17, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Six percent of Americans think the stimulus worked.

I guess there are SOME loony leftists you can fool ALL the time.

this will shortly be obimbos approval rating.

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Actually, dingbat, 6 is about right for your age or IQ level.

Posted by: jasperanselm | February 17, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Six percent of Americans think the stimulus worked.

I guess there are SOME loony leftists you can fool ALL the time.

this will shortly be obimbos approval rating.

Posted by: Moonbat | February 17, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: mahalapril

Must be a relative of scrivener's.

Posted by: jasperanselm | February 17, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

jasper -- he's great at self-description.

ezra klein on bayh -- good one:

'So: Evan Bayh’s not a major deficit hypocrite. He’s a minor deficit hypocrite. But a deficit hypocrite all the same. In his exit speech, he describes himself as “a lonely voice for balancing the budget and restraining spending.” Of course, there’s no such thing in Washington as a “lonely voice” for a balanced budget. There is a cacophony of such voices, and a dearth of such votes. But votes are the only things able to do the job. If voices balanced the budget, treasury bonds would never rise.

Accusing a politician of deficit hypocrisy isn’t a particularly serious slur. Pretty much every politician is guilty of it. It’s a bit like trumpeting the fact that some politician or another wears a suit. But if Bayh’s sins are ordinary, so too was his career. Which is why I was surprised to see my colleague Jonathan Capehart term this a “brain drain.” I’ve talked to Bayh before, and like Jonathan Chait, found him special only in his ability to formulate platitudes on the fly. The guy missed out on a terrific career as a fortune cookie author (“Your country will be assured of greatness! Your lucky deficit number is zero!”), but the sciences will not weep for their loss.'

Posted by: drindl | February 17, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Why should we continue to allow these well-organized crime families Obama administration and Congress in D.C. to lie in front with total contempt of the American people, shamelessly,power drunk,elitist,pathological lying,corrupt,incompetent,senile ,brainlessarrogant,tyrannical,treasonous,tax cheaters,dishonest,dishonorable,unethical, partisan,clueless,anti-America,anti-US military,islamic sympathy,anti-CIA ,anti-Police,irreversibly destroying our country militarily and economically in a very short period of time. We can't wait for an election and just continue on talking. The US military should take over the Gov't now and hold new presidential election right away to restore the America we knew before it is too late.

Posted by: mahalapril | February 17, 2010 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Why should we continue to allow these well-organized crime families Obama administration and Congress in D.C. to lie in front with total contempt of the American people, shamelessly,power drunk,elitist,pathological lying,corrupt,incompetent,senile ,brainlessarrogant,tyrannical,treasonous,tax cheaters,dishonest,dishonorable,unethical, partisan,clueless,anti-America,anti-US military,islamic sympathy,anti-CIA ,anti-Police,irreversibly destroying our country militarily and economically in a very short period of time. We can't wait for an election and just continue on talking. The US military should take over the Gov't now and hold new presidential election right away to restore the America we knew before it is too late.

Posted by: mahalapril | February 17, 2010 11:19 AM | Report abuse

The rantings of a delusional loon. Who is on this blog all day every day. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Posted by: Moonbat


I see the dingbat is talking about himself again.

Posted by: jasperanselm | February 17, 2010 11:10 AM | Report abuse

ok let me understand this.
hussein and the dems borrow almost a trillion dollars and call it stimulus. they cant actually saw what jobs they saved and even fewer they can say the actually created.
the dems have spent about 1/3rd of the money and still have 2/3rd left.
but we have been paying INTEREST on the entire trillion they borrowed.
then there is tarp funds.
all the banks have actually paid the money back with interest and instead of following the law the dems have decided that more than 1/2 trillion dollars in a dem slush fund - and YES WE HAVE BEEN PAYING INTEREST ON THAT TOO.
so what does the dems do - THEY WANT TO BORROW MORE MONEY.

Posted by: infantry11b4faus | February 17, 2010 11:09 AM | Report abuse

What a joke, 2 million people's jobs saved...based on what voodoo math calculation? Does this include all the new hires to take census? and the 2.5 million in advertisement during the super bowl? So, explain to me why the govt hasn't figured out a way to use the IRS forms from taxpayers? Oh, that's right, the illegals don't file federal income tax. Obama, I voted for you for change in DC, nothing has changed. Repubs, if Sarah P is your best qualified candidate then you people are stupider then I thought. We need a third party. Please, anyone.

Posted by: larry40 | February 17, 2010 11:07 AM | Report abuse

jasper's -- this is moonbat/drivl/zouk's job too. you'll notice he'll be on here all day, obsessing on my every word. poor boy. never met a woman who didn't get a restraining order on him for stalking.

Posted by: drindl | February 17, 2010 11:03 AM | Report abuse

This IS fake 37's job; being a professional idiot.

Posted by: jasperanselm | February 17, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

redsky28 writes
"You're using the state of MN as an example.. the state that elected "Jessy the Body" as gov. and Stewart Smalley as senator."

Funny as that sounds, both those guys beat former Sen Norm Coleman (R). Also of note: Gov Pawlenty (R) - some analysts' dark horse pick for winning next year's GOP nomination for pres - is leaving the state in worse shape than the wrestler did.

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Posted by: bsimon1 | February 17, 2010 10:54 AM | Report abuse

I see moonbat/drivl/zouk and 37 are still unemployed and still hanging on this blog all day long.

Posted by: drindl | February 17, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse


The rantings of a delusional loon. Who is on this blog all day every day. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Get a job. Get a life dribbl. Lay off the kool aid.

Posted by: Moonbat | February 17, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

$787 billion dollars spent and a year later Obama and his minions are out defending the expenditure. That's not news. What would be news is Obama's admitting the fact that Democrats spend and then spend more simply out of habit. When he was urging the bill's passage he guaranteed that the result would be an unemployment rate of 8%. It never achieved that. By Obama's own standard he failed -anything he says now is more Obama hot air.

Posted by: mhr614 | February 17, 2010 10:51 AM | Report abuse

this sounds positively hilarious:

"When CPAC kicks off tomorrow in Washington, members of the tea party movement will be on hand. They are sort of strange bedfellows, since tea party members insist they aren't about the Republican party and CPAC is viewed as the marquis event for the GOP and its potential presidential candidates. As we've been writing, Republicans across the country have been trying to harness the tea party energy for their own races as anti-establishment sentiment sweeps the nation in the leadup to the midterm elections.

There are plenty of divisions from within the tea party umbrella as well - a split between more corporation sponsored groups like the Tea Party Express and citizens who say the last thing they want is to be an official third party.

Despite these fissures, top officials with tea party groups will speak and the documentary about the Tea Party will be on hand. Rapper Hi-Caliber, who stars in Tea Party material, even plans to perform."

Posted by: drindl | February 17, 2010 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Joe Biden is the Man,
rhode scholar, oscar winner,
I believe he let einstien take
the credit for relativity,
but it was Joe's Idea,
just ask Joe,
Joe knows...
It's all in his autobiography,
"I am the Greatest!"

Posted by: simonsays1 | February 17, 2010 10:50 AM | Report abuse

WARNING: You are entering a political blog spam zone.

• Are taxpayers footing the bill for black op "computer perps?"

Roslyn Mazer: Alert the DNI. This is not tradecraft.

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Posted by: scrivener50 | February 17, 2010 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Dribble's endless loony pastes continue.

No job saved or created there.

Barry is spinning like a fat housewife today. No ones buying still. A year after a giant failure is not a good time to rewrite history and rename it a success.

Posted by: Moonbat | February 17, 2010 10:45 AM | Report abuse

too bad we can't turn you off.

Posted by: drindl | February 17, 2010 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Dear drindl:

You're using the state of MN as an example.. the state that elected "Jessy the Body" as gov. and Stewart Smalley as senator.

give us a break.

Posted by: redsky28 | February 17, 2010 10:40 AM | Report abuse

Everyone knew that it was nuts to try to kiss up to the Republicans.

If Hillary was running the show, we'd have single payer universal health insurance.

The Obama-babbies forced the moderates out of the party and crucified anyone who tried to point out that it was dumb to bring candy and flowers to a knife-fight.

Democrats had the best chance in years to effect positive change, but the far left has destroyed the Democratic Party.

Posted by: TheTruthWillNotBeSilenced | February 17, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Dear drindl:

I think the UK has much more to worry about than a TV show.. The great thing about TV is that you can turn it off.

Posted by: redsky28 | February 17, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Republicans like Bobby Jindal in Louisiana, where I live, criticize the stimulus but have their hands open for the funds. Why won't Jindal refuse the stimulus funds? Because he would have to balance the state budget without it and actually make some hard decisions. That (making hard decisions) is not something he can do.

Posted by: gtinla | February 17, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Once again, thick headed Republicans and the general public just don’t get it. The stunning success of this plan eludes their simple minds. Although after a year of Obama and his Social Democrat super majority, one must wonder what part of Chicago, back room partisan politics they fail to understand?


The “Stimulus Plan” is operating precisely as planned, it is just that the plan had NOTHING to do with stimulating the economy and EVERYTHING to do with rewarding Social Democrat partisan supporters.

To the extent that any partisan slush fund ever makes a difference, of course this one does, too, e.g. shielding public employees from feeling the full effects of governments' own destructive influence on the economy and the reduced revenues generated thereby

Posted by: RUKidding0 | February 17, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse


pawlenty and the typical R stimulus hypocrisy....

'In December, Fox News’ Eric Bolling presented Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty as an example of a conservative politician making tough choices to balance his state’s budget. “A big hole and a simple plan to dig out of it, stop spending,” said Bolling while introducing Pawlenty. “Sounds simple enough. Hold the line on taxes, live within your means. That is how my next guest aims to close his state`s billion-dollar-plus projected budget gap.”


Yesterday, Pawlenty revealed his proposal to balance Minnesota’s budget. The proposal would cut “$250 million from aid to cities and counties and $347 million from health and human services programs” while lowering taxes for businesses. The Minneapolis Star Tribune notes that “nearly one-third of the governor’s budget fix would rely on $387 million in federal stimulus money. That money isn’t yet in the bank and, if it doesn’t come through, the cuts could be far deeper.”

This isn’t the first time that Pawlenty’s actions have contradicted his words regarding the stimulus. Last August, Pawlenty told Bloomberg’s Al Hunt that most of the stimulus money was “misdirected” and “largely wasted” on projects that won’t create jobs.

But weeks before Pawlenty’s comments, his own economic development director went on a 10 city road show titled “Advancing Economic Prosperity” touting the benefits of the stimulus. “Communities and job-seekers throughout Minnesota are seeing tangible results from this funding,” said Dan McElroy, Pawlenty’s “point man on jobs and economic development.”

Posted by: drindl | February 17, 2010 10:34 AM | Report abuse

EVERYONE -- hey lets remember what we were told about the Stimulus.. need to do it now or the economy could collapse. Right.. remember that? They passed it w/o reading in the middle of the night. Then is sat on the prez desk for at least 4 days. ARE YOU KIDDING ME!

If you look at the amount spent from the bill -- they've only spent 1/3. WHY? I thought they needed everything - all of it to get the economy going. Is it really a stimulus or slush fund. Do we really need 3.8M dollars for a turtle bridge? Who is going to tell the turtles to use the damn thing. its ridiculous.

This administration is a absolute disaster.. just like the previous 4 years. STOP SPENDING MONEY!!!!!!! My god!

Posted by: redsky28 | February 17, 2010 10:32 AM | Report abuse

"***37thandOstreet -- nail on the head."


Maybe so, but if you frame a house with finishing nails, it ain't gonna stay up very long.


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Posted by: bsimon1 | February 17, 2010 10:31 AM | Report abuse

'Today, Color of Change and StopBeck.com announced that the United Kingdom has forcefully rejected Fox News host Glenn Beck. In fact, the UK broadcast of his show “was forced to run without any advertisements” for five days in a row as of yesterday. Additionally, 103 companies have agreed to stop their ads from appearing on his program. Some of the latest defections include Allstate Insurance, Anheuser-Busch, Idaho Potato Commission, Marriott International, Volkswagen, and Western Union. Some of their comments:

– “We in no way want to promote the hateful rhetoric of Mr. Glenn Beck, and therefore take this matter very seriously,” said Dino Balzano, director of advertising at Concord Music Group, parent company of Hear Music, in an email to ColorOfChange.org.

– “We do not intend to have any additional ad placements during the program,” said Jeff Flaherty, spokesperson for Marriott International, in an email to ColorOfChange.org. “I’d like to point out that diversity and inclusion are core values at Marriott and an essential component of our success.”

– “I first learned about this controversy [in November] and asked Fox to take his show out of our rotation,” said Steve Schwartz, executive vice president of consumer services for Intersections, Inc., in an email to ColorOfChange.org. “We no longer advertise on Glenn Beck’s show.”

Posted by: drindl | February 17, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

"If they created jobs at 30K each - they could have used 787 Billion dollars and created 26 MILLION JOBS."

If you hire people to move dirt, you still have to buy shovels.

Spending $100 million on a road project does not translate to $100 million in new wages. It probably translates to $75 million in materials & equipment costs, and $25 million for wages (I admit in advance that I pulled those numbers out of thin air). Net result, you've employed some people for a period of time, and have a road to use at the end. Roads are oftentimes useful for things like commerce - the movement of goods & services.

Posted by: bsimon1 | February 17, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Today, the Wall Street Journal reported on more than a dozen Republican lawmakers who voted against the stimulus last year but subsequently “supported stimulus-funding requests” submitted by their constituents to federal agencies. One such lawmaker was Rep. Jean Schmidt (R-OH), who said she didn’t believe “that it would create the jobs that were promised.” In November, she even issued a call to “recall the stimulus funds that have not been spent.” Of course, Schmidt wasn’t so concerned about the federal deficit to turn down supporting “funding requests from local organizations training workers for energy-efficiency projects.”

Today, Fox News’ Neil Cavuto pushed her on her hypocrisy. Schmidt spun all sorts of circles trying to justify her move, saying that she would still “return that money to the Treasury” if she could, but the “genie is out of the bottle.” Cavuto repeatedly asked her how Republicans were any different from Democrats, pointed out how what they were doing was “offensive” to some folks, and hit her for sending a “mixed message.”

Posted by: drindl | February 17, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

GET A JOB

Posted by: drindl | February 17, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse

GET A JOB

Posted by: drindl | February 17, 2010 10:25 AM | Report abuse

Created or saved -- what a calculation that must be..

***37thandOstreet -- nail on the head.

We also spend more $ per student when compared to other countries yet all we hear is they need more money. Pay for performance.

god help us..

Posted by: redsky28 | February 17, 2010 10:25 AM | Report abuse

GET A JOB

Posted by: drindl | February 17, 2010 10:25 AM | Report abuse

GET A JOB

Posted by: drindl | February 17, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

To Everyone:


There is no way that Obama can call a program that costs $314.000 PER JOB a success.

Talk about Orwellian.

We had a whole discussion about Orwellian last week.

Is Obama going to throw a party too?

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 17, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

"Tomorrow, conservatives from around the country will converge at the annual Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC), which serves as a “showcase of the heart and soul of American conservatism.” The Washington Scene reports that this year’s CPAC will prominently feature a Nancy Pelosi piñata and a Harry Reid punching bag for guests to take turns beating:

pelosisAttendees at a conservative conference in town this week will have the opportunity to whack a pinata of Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.). Conservative Political Action Conference “CPAC” begins Thursday here in D.C. and will feature a party Friday evening where guests will have the opportunity to whack a Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) pinata.

Keri Ann Meslar, director of development for the Greater Washington Sports Alliance and Katherine Kennedy of The Blonde Charity Mafia will be two of three famous D.C. residents taking a turn at the pinata during the annual Conservative Political Action Conference, which starts on Thursday. Meslar will be the guest “whacker” at a CPAC-sponsored party in Georgetown."

these folks need to go back to kindergarten.

Posted by: drindl | February 17, 2010 10:23 AM | Report abuse

TO EVERYONE


Even if the stimulus bill did create 2.5 million jobs - which is highly questionable.


Let's calculate it out.


787 Billion dollars divided by 2.5 million jobs is $314,000 PER JOB

Posted by: 37thand0street | February 17, 2010 10:21 AM | Report abuse

TO EVERYONE


Even if the stimulus bill did create 2.5 million jobs - which is highly questionable.


Let's calculate it out.


787 Billion dollars divided by 2.5 million jobs is $314,000 PER JOB

Posted by: 37thand0street | February 17, 2010 10:21 AM | Report abuse

TO EVERYONE


Even if the stimulus bill did create 2.5 million jobs - which is highly questionable.


Let's calculate it out.


787 Billion dollars divided by 2.5 million jobs is $314,000 PER JOB

Posted by: 37thand0street | February 17, 2010 10:21 AM | Report abuse

TO EVERYONE


Even if the stimulus bill did create 2.5 million jobs - which is highly questionable.


Let's calculate it out.


787 Billion dollars divided by 2.5 million jobs is $314,000 PER JOB

Posted by: 37thand0street | February 17, 2010 10:21 AM | Report abuse

I see old Crazy Joe is parroting the party line that the people are just too stupid to understand their enlightened governance. We'll see how much Joe likes the unemployment line come Nov 2012!

Posted by: jpost1 | February 17, 2010 10:21 AM | Report abuse

GET A JOB

Posted by: drindl | February 17, 2010 10:20 AM | Report abuse

Mark - calculate this


If they created jobs at 30K each - they could have used 787 Billion dollars and created 26 MILLION JOBS.


Unemployment - total - is only 15 Million - they could have hired EVERY UNEMPLOYED PERSON OUT THERE.


DO THE MATH YOURSELF.


Where did the money go ???


I have to stick by the analysis that the money was diverted to democratic special interest groups.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 17, 2010 10:18 AM | Report abuse

margaretmeyers


you apparently read my posts.

Again, if you are on a federal job now, you are breaking the law.


among other things


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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 17, 2010 10:13 AM | Report abuse


"Just look at the outside evaluations of the stimulus. Perhaps the best-known economic research firms are IHS Global Insight, Macroeconomic Advisers and Moody’s. They all estimate that the bill has added 1.6 million to 1.8 million jobs so far and that its ultimate impact will be roughly 2.5 million jobs. The Congressional Budget Office, an independent agency, considers these estimates to be conservative.

Yet I’m guessing you don’t think of the stimulus bill as a big success. You’ve read columns (by me, for example) complaining that it should have spent money more quickly.

And many of the criticisms are valid. The program has had its flaws. But the attention they have received is wildly disproportionate to their importance. To hark back to another big government program, it’s almost as if the lasting image of the lunar space program was Apollo 6, an unmanned 1968 mission that had engine problems, and not Apollo 11, the moon landing."

<http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/17/business/economy/17leonhardt.html

Posted by: drindl | February 17, 2010 10:12 AM | Report abuse

Geessshhhhh


Is Obama really trying to go out there and give a speech about how well he did with the stimulus bill ???

How can Obama go up there and lie like that?

Right now, we have an administration THAT IS SO OUT-OF-TOUCH, they are not even sure when they are lying.

The democrats on the Hill are completely sick of Obama's delusional policy stances.

The democrats on the Hill would be so much better off without Obama - Obama is dragging them down and threatening their jobs.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 17, 2010 10:09 AM | Report abuse

37 -- stuff it, you creeply little thug. stop stalking margaret and get a freakin job.

Posted by: drindl | February 17, 2010 10:07 AM | Report abuse

37th, do what the rest of us do all day, every day: if you don't like the poster, don't read their posts.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | February 17, 2010 10:05 AM | Report abuse

Mark - calculate this


If they created jobs at 30K each - they could have used 787 Billion dollars and created 26 MILLION JOBS.


Unemployment - total - is only 15 Million - they could have hired EVERY UNEMPLOYED PERSON OUT THERE.


DO THE MATH YOURSELF.


Where did the money go ???


I have to stick by the analysis that the money was diverted to democratic special interest groups.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 17, 2010 10:04 AM | Report abuse

margaretmeyers


Are you working in a federal job right now? If you are, you are not supposed to be engaged in partisan political activities. That would make every post of yours illegal.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 17, 2010 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Chris, isn't Huckabee's approach to the 21012 campaign more truly "populist?" It costs him nothing to get weekly exposure on Fox that Pawlenty and Romney are not getting. The fact that he is not raising tons of money years ahead of time cna make him look unprofessional, but maybe he wants to look unconnected to the fund raisers and corporate donors.

Huckabee got pretty far in 2008 just kicking the dirt and talking like a Right Wing Will Rodgers. He may be setting himself up to be the truly outsider, populist candidate on the right in 2012.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | February 17, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse

Mark - calculate this


If they created jobs at 30K each - they could have used 787 Billion dollars and created 26 MILLION JOBS.


Unemployment - total - is only 15 Million - they could have hired EVERY UNEMPLOYED PERSON OUT THERE.


DO THE MATH YOURSELF.


Where did the money go ???

I have to stick by the analysis that the money was diverted to democratic special interest groups - which will not show up in state-by-state analysis, if you are going to groups states by color. A democratic special interest group could spend the money in a red state. Like Acorn could spend money in New Orleans.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 17, 2010 9:43 AM | Report abuse

Obama administration covering up ongoing Bush-Cheney program atrocities?

HOMELAND-RUN CELL TOWER MICROWAVE WEAPON SYSTEM SILENTLY ASSAULTS, IMPAIRS THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS NATIONWIDE, SAYS VETERAN JOURNALIST

• Precision-targeted microwave frequencies injure, induce fatigue, mood changes, debilitating physiological and neurological effects -- electromagnetic enslavement of citizens deemed to be "dissidents" or undesirables.

• Senior security team aware of secretive Bush-legacy "multi-agency coordinated action" involving microwave assaults and local community watch harassment of U.S. citizens deemed to be "dissidents" or undesirables -- an American genocide.

• What are Bush-Cheney leave-behinds telling Obama, Holder, Napolitano, Panetta?

http://nowpublic.com/world/u-s-silently-tortures-americans-cell-tower-microwaves

OR

www.poynter.org/subject.asp?id=2 (see articles list)

NOW IT'S OBAMA'S GESTAPO USA. WHEN WILL TEAM OBAMA ACT?

http://nowpublic.com/world/gestapo-usa-govt-funded-vigilante-network-terrorizes-america

OR NowPublic.com/scrivener (see "stories" list)

Posted by: scrivener50 | February 17, 2010 9:42 AM | Report abuse

margaretmeyers


I believe everyone here is getting really sick of your ugly, stupid comments which lack all substance.

Stick to the topics.


Leave the other posters alone.


Your post adds nothing to the discussion, except to show how ugly a person you are inside.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 17, 2010 9:40 AM | Report abuse

Mark: you got a typical 37th and Zero response to your post at 8:41. A lotta heat, not so much light.


Posted by: margaretmeyers | February 17, 2010 9:34 AM | Report abuse

mark_in_austin


Great - the American people needed jobs last year - they needed Obama to put his attention to jobs LAST YEAR.

They didn't need Obama spending the whole year on health care - which only fed his egotistical desire to "make history."

Who wants a jobs program when the economy is coming out of a recession all by itself ?


And the bill was filled with money for democratic special interests - it really doesn't matter which states got what.

Mark - calculate this


If they created jobs at 30K each - they could have used 787 Billion dollars and created 26 MILLION JOBS.

Unemployment - total - is only 15 Million - they could have hired EVERY UNEMPLOYED PERSON OUT THERE.

DO THE MATH YOURSELF.

Where did the money go ???

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 17, 2010 9:31 AM | Report abuse

John 1263, did you see the interview with the Utah state senator who wants to save 60 million of his state's budget short fall by making 12th grade optional? He says those kids are just wasting their time in HS: half of them are taking 4 gym classes and the other half could be in college already.

This is the brilliant stuff that is coming out of the GOP to save our economy and stimulate job growth. To quote Scrooge "Are there no Work Houses?"

Posted by: margaretmeyers | February 17, 2010 9:28 AM | Report abuse

BIDEN SAYS WASHINGTON IS BROKEN

Washington is NOT broken - the government is doing what it is supposed to do - the CHECKS AND BALANCES HAVE WORKED AND WORKED TO THE WILL OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WHICH IS THEY DO NOT WANT THE HEALTH CARE BILL.

Biden is wrong.

The Constitution is working - the CHECKS AND BALANCES are producing the RESULT THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT.

Washington is only broken IF you believe that the purpose of Washington is to create massive spending programs and massive taxes.

Washington is there to govern - according to the will of the people. The people do NOT want Obama's health care plan. Washington's checks and balances are working EXACTLY AS DESIGNED.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 17, 2010 9:24 AM | Report abuse

It is absolutely amazing one of the justifications Obama has for his health care plan.


Obama says that "Medicare and Medicaid costs are exploding," so we have to pass another massive spending program to contain the costs.

OK - that makes no sense - but in addition to that, there are almost no cost-containment elements to Obama's plan.

It is lie on top of focus-group words on top of lies on top of focus-group phrases to the point at which Obama has no idea what he is talking about.

It is unbelievable. Obama is a complete disaster - once one set of lies is exposed, Obama has no where to go.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 17, 2010 9:20 AM | Report abuse

In Nashua this month - Obama looks at the budget deficit and says "most of it is structural and we inherited it."

UUUMMMMMM.......

These are DEMOCRATIC SPENDING PROGRAMS WHICH ARE CAUSING THE TROUBLE.


Obama just doesn't get it.

Obama just spent a year in which he did EVERYTHING HE COULD TO MAKE THE PROBLEM MUCH WORSE.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 17, 2010 9:03 AM | Report abuse

Obama should be careful about his new blame game - Obama appears to want to switch from "blame Bush" to "blame Republicans in Congress"

Obama was a leader of the anti-Iraq faction -


The democrats voted FOR the war in Iraq - and then they turned their backs on the troops in the field. Harry Reid once demanded that we "lose" the war.

NOW somehow, a debate on national security is not proper ? How much of a hypocrite can Obama be ???

NOW Obama seems perfectly comfortable to go blame Bush for today's budget deficit - WHEN IT IS THE DEMOCRATIC SPENDING PROGRAMS WHICH ARE EXPLODING.

Obama went to Baltimore - picked three things out of the budget - and blamed the whole deficit on Bush and the Republicans - and said he basically was not at fault.

THE MAJOR PROBLEM WITH THE DEFICIT IS THE DEMOCRATIC PROGRAMS WHICH THE DEMOCRATS PUT INTO THE BUDGET.


Republicans always said that the democratic programs had uncertain, open-ended costs in the not-to-distant future.

Obama is a joke - He just spent a year trying to put ANOTHER DEMOCRATIC SPENDING PROGRAM INTO THE BUDGET WITH UNCERTAIN COSTS INTO THE FUTURE.

And Obama has the NERVE to go to Baltimore and pick out three items and "blame Bush."

It was bizarro land - then the White House told the press that the exchange was a "victory" for Obama.

Well, Obama's commitment to bipartisanship is about coming to agreements - so that the American people win.

Obama's approach is that either he wins or they win - THAT IS NOT BIPARTISANSHIP.

THE WHITE HOUSE SPIN WAS COMPLETELY PARTISAN.


THEN OBAMA SAYS, I FOOLED YOU IN BALTIMORE, CAN I TRY TO FOOL THE PRESS AGAIN???

It is one thing to have the approach to campaigning that Obama is going to try to fool everyone - it is entirely different now.


OBAMA IS A JOKE.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 17, 2010 8:56 AM | Report abuse

Street Corner, I am going to take your comment seriously and reply seriously.

The arithmetic of the back loading is a combination of two factors:

1] more than 35% of the stimulus was in the form of tax reductions that hit largely in 2009 [courtesy one R Senator and the widespread perception that the AMT had to be corrected anyway]; and

2] the "shovel ready" projects have two and three year
completion schedules and the authorized spending for them did not actually begin until summer, 2009 and will continue through 2011.

Additionally, your allegation of D pork may be overblown. The greatest immediate 'jobs" impact was in states about to go insolvent; they did not fire as many state employees as they would have.

Are you saying D states got more? That might be true. UT Business Research says Texas got enough ARRA to save a significant number of state jobs, and TX is an R state. But maybe CA got disproportionately more. They certainly have lost more jobs out there than we have.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | February 17, 2010 8:41 AM | Report abuse

Stimulus funding went for some much needed road resurfacing projects in my area -- projects that were on hold because the money just wasn't there. Jobs were saved and/or created as a result; and I can drive to work without destroying my car. Sounds like a winner to me! I hope we get even more of the funds for some bridge and overpass replacements, too. Lots of infrastructure work to do that was ignored for most of the last decade.

Posted by: JPDupre | February 17, 2010 8:33 AM | Report abuse

Job Creation was back-loaded ??? Why ???


First I have no idea why Obama wants to "celebrate" the stimulus package.


This stimulus bill was hijacked by democrats in Congress and the money was diverted from jobs to the democratic special interest groups.

WHAT A JOKE.

IS THIS ADMINISTRATION KIDDING???


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Posted by: 37thand0street | February 17, 2010 8:25 AM | Report abuse

Republican, I don't know how you can make your case for the color of the sky, if you refuse to look up. The only people who say the stim isn't working are people who have a vested political interest in seeing it fail to work. I'm not gonna stop drinking Pepsi, just because the Coke guy tells me that his soft-drink is better. Know what I mean?

Posted by: elijah24 | February 17, 2010 8:11 AM | Report abuse

The stimulas was a success! We have never been so happy and comfortable. Our electricity bills went up, but no matter, we can handle that. After all saving the planet from global warming is the smartest thing to do right now. Time is ticking!

90% of us kept our jobs. Obama preserved them for us. We also got transparency in government this year. We should celebrate! This is the most transparent administration in history!

Our carmakers still have work and our banks didn't fail. Our heathcare is about to be overhauled and fixed. We should be dancing!

All hail the stimulas and our administration!

Posted by: JBfromFL | February 17, 2010 8:11 AM | Report abuse

republicanblack has pointed up the enigma of selling the ARRA. It saved several states, that cannot print money, from insolvency. Thus it saved public sector jobs [e.g., for school teachers], disproportionately. It worked.

BUT...it did not work for everyone, and that, too, is apparent.

If the community banks had been "loaned" TARP money conditioned on small biz lending, my anecdotal evidence says more private sector jobs would have been saved. I do not know how many more, or what the cost/benefit ratio would have been. Still, it is within the private sector that most jobs are lost and created. So until a program focuses there, the perception that ARRA did not work will linger.
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As to UHC, after the "summit" the House should pass the SB. Margaret's comments can be the basis for the campaign - the proponents can use the evidence of a runaway seller's market to advantage, because the insurers' excuse for raising rates 39% is the shrinking of the pool. Expanding the pool, through UHC, does eliminate that "excuse" and the SB has some features that strengthen the buyers' hands.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | February 17, 2010 8:06 AM | Report abuse

I would bet that Joe Biden is embarrassed to deliver this message.. a new bar has been set for the phrase 'whipping boy'.

Posted by: newbeeboy | February 17, 2010 7:55 AM | Report abuse

Much of the blame for the stimulus backlash lies with the White House itself. It needed this massive PR push last year, when many Americans were still forming opinions of the program.

What the administration have going for it is the undisputed evidence from respected economists that the stimulus did work and saved the economy from an even deeper hole. They need to spread that message.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: parkerfl1 | February 17, 2010 7:41 AM | Report abuse

All analysis of the stimulus says it is working. OMB, CBO, independant analysts all say the same thing. But of course republicons never let facts get in the way of their political rhetoric.

New Jersey is already suffering buyers remorse. That dolt christie is proposing cutting half a billion in education funding, closing hospitals, and gutting public transport systems. He will be less popular than pin worms by March.

And the tea baggers are getting a good case of buyers remorse as scott "naked boy" brown turns out to be a liberal....

Posted by: John1263 | February 17, 2010 7:40 AM | Report abuse

Well, if I am going to be the only one on this forum to tell the truth. My state needed 2.3 billion to balance the budget and a whole lot more to get different projects done. So if balancing the budget with stimulus didn't create or save a job I don't what else to say. I can't believe we are debating the color of the sky

Posted by: republicanblack | February 17, 2010 6:49 AM | Report abuse

Bayh's comment about not one job being created by the democrat controlled Congress says it all.

Quoting that a hole Biden is like quoting Baghdad Bob, who probably was more honest than big mouthed Joe.

Posted by: LarryG62 | February 17, 2010 6:45 AM | Report abuse

So, who is the money behind 60 Plus? Health insurance companies are going to very quickly make it evident why reform must happen and why things like opening FEHB to the public or providing other public options is the way to go.

Last year, insured people rejected the bill out of fear that it would harm their own insured status. Recent developments in California will make it clear that they have no status, and can be priced-out of the market quickly when it it is a "free market" that benefits no one. The difference between the uninsured and the insured is the price of a premium.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | February 17, 2010 6:30 AM | Report abuse

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