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Charlie Crist's big decision

1. Florida Gov. Charlie Crist (R) has until noon on Friday to decide whether he will run for Senate as a Republican, an independent or not at all. And, his only audience is the entire political world.

Crist spent Thursday and Friday of last week meeting with key Republican strategists and donors that had come into his political orbit over the last decade, testing them on the idea of whether or not he should run as an independent, according to one senior Florida GOPer.

Most Republican sources in Florida and Washington seem to believe that a Crist switch is a foregone conclusion -- there is even speculation about when this week he might choose to announce it -- but, as almost always in these sorts of delicate political situations, there are very few people who know the real deal and they are not talking much.

The Florida Republican party as well as a series of national leaders clearly believe that Crist is switching, however, as they have lined up behind former state House Speaker Marco Rubio -- with former Vice President Dick Cheney being the last major figure to formally back Rubio.

If Crist does switch, the first few days after he formalizes that decision will be critical. He will need to cast it as a grassroots uprising that led him to reconsider his lifelong affiliation with the GOP.

Rubio -- and Democratic Rep. Kendrick Meek -- will do everything they can to cast Crist's decision as simply the latest in a serious of opportunistic moves by Crist, an uber-ambitious politician focused more on moving up the ladder than doing the job he was elected to do.

No matter what happens, this is going to be a remarkable week in Florida politics.

ALSO READ: Dan Balz's on what Crist's decision means (and what it doesn't) and the St. Pete Times' terrific recounting of how it all went wrong for the governor.

2. Minnesota state House Speaker Margaret Anderson Kelliher beat back a series of Democratic challengers -- including Minneapolis Mayor R.T. Rybak -- to win the party convention nod for governor Saturday night.

Going into last weekend's convention, Kelliher and Rybak were considered the favorites. Kelliher led narrowly in early ballots but was able to secure the victory thanks in large part to the endorsements of candidates who dropped from the race as the voting continued -- most notably state Rep. Tom Rukavina.

Kelliher's work is not done, however. Neither former Sen. Mark Dayton nor former state House Minority Leader Matt Entenza participated in the convention process, choosing instead to run in the Aug. 10 Democratic primary.

Republicans are scheduled to gather at their party convention later this week to choose between state Reps. Tom Emmer and Marty Seifert as their nominee to replace retiring Gov. Tim Pawlenty (R). Both Emmer and Seifert have pledged to abide by the convention endorsement.

Minnesota, which went for President Barack Obama by 10 points in 2008, is widely regarded as one of Democrats' best pickup chances in the country this fall. It is currently ranked as the 12th most likely governor's race to switch parties in November.

3. In the wake of the failure of the his family's bank last Friday, Illinois state Treasurer Alexi Giannoulias (D) is pursuing an age-old strategy: the best defense is a good offense.

Giannoulias will launch his first ad of the general election, a commercial that directly addresses the bank's failure. "I was very proud to be a part of it, and when I left, over four years ago, it was in good shape," Giannoulias says of the bank in the commercial. "But no one could have foreseen these problems."

He then pivots to blast Kirk for his "votes for the Bush policies that got us into this mess" and ends the ad by touting his promise to fight for the interests of everyday Illinoisans.

Giannoulias will travel to southern Illinois today to hit Kirk on mine safety issues and will return to Chicago on Wednesday to call for reforms on Wall Street.

"The message is all the same," said one Giannoulias adviser. "Washington insider Kirk voted to get us into this mess and he takes money from corporate insiders and votes their way every time."

It remains to be seen whether Giannoulias' offensive against Kirk will work. Earlier this month Kirk's campaign released a three-minute web video detailing how Giannoulias ran -- and won -- on his service as senior loan officer at Broadway Bank in the 2006 state Treasurer's race.

Republicans have stayed largely silent since the bank formally failed on Friday. Kirk did, however, release a statement blaming "years of risky lending schemes, hot money investments and loans to organized crime" for the collapse.

The next few weeks will be critically important to Democrats' chances in the open seat race once held by President Obama. Republicans believe Giannoulias is too damaged to win and hope he makes it to the ballot in the fall. Democrats retort that the strongly Democratic nature of the state will allow Giannoulias to pull out a win.

4. One week after former Gov. Tommy Thompson (R) announced he would not challenge Sen. Russ Feingold this fall, the Wisconsin Democrat is up with the first television ad of his re-election race.

The commercial draws deeply on Wisconsinites (Wisconsiners?) pride about the Badger State -- showing a series of images of famous men who served the state including Sens. William Proxmire and Gaylord Nelson (and, yes, drawing a subtle connection between those men and Feingold.)

"Before we make a decision, we weigh the consequences," says Feingold in the ad. "Not just how it affects us today but how it impacts us tomorrow."

While Thompson was Republicans' preferred recruit, the GOP field is going to get larger in the next few days. Dick Leinenkugel, a former Commerce Secretary for Gov. Jim Doyle (D), is expected to announce his candidacy today although most Republican insiders don't take him terribly seriously.

Ron Johnson, a wealthy businessman from Oshkosh, is also very likely to run for the nomination and his affiliation with the tea party movement -- he founded the group in Oshkosh -- make him a potentially intriguing candidate.

Feingold has been a target since he was elected to the Senate in 1992 but has used well-funded campaign and a tenaciousness toward his opponents to win re-election.

5. Drumroll please....after more than 3,000 votes Virginia Sen. Mark Warner (D) is the first pick in the Fix fantasy politics draft -- beating out Missouri Sen. Claire McCaskill (D)

Warner took 31 percent to 24 percent for McCaskill and 18 percent for Delaware Gov. Jack Markell (D). Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan, who took 12 percent, was the only Republican in double figures.

Other potential number one picks offered by Fixistas: New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R), New York Rep. Anthony Weiner (D), Colorado Rep. Jared Polis (D), Illinois Rep. Aaron Schock (R) and Kansas Sen. Sam Brownback (R).

And, seriously, why is there not a fantasy political league? This seems like fertile ground.

By Chris Cillizza  |  April 26, 2010; 6:00 AM ET
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@ ceflynline - Remember that Cuban Americans area distinct (and distinctly conservative) group amongst Latinos. So, the demographics of Florida are quite different than those of, say, Arizona. I suspect that the AZ law will have little effect on Rubio's prospects.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | April 27, 2010 12:08 AM | Report abuse

Fun fact for Rubio: 60% of Florida is White Non Hispanic in 2008 according to the US Census Bureau. That means if Brewers law energizes the 40% of the state who aren't, Rubio has to get the vote of 5 of every six WnH voter, PROVIDED they turn out in numbers comparable to the nonWnH vote.

Be careful just who you energize, people.

Posted by: ceflynline | April 26, 2010 10:29 PM | Report abuse

Who is running Charlie Crist's campaign? (Hint: It's not Erik Eikenberg)

http://bit.ly/cKd5Xg

Posted by: saintpetersblog | April 26, 2010 8:08 PM | Report abuse

"So 92% of all Hispanics will vote Dem thanks to this stupidity. Posted by: ModerateVoter | April 26, 2010 12:52 PM
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Why set your sights so low? It could match African Americans at 96% Democrat. Posted by: 12BarBlues"

The relevant statistic is non (White-non-Hispanic)

In Arizona that is 40+5 of the population. Aggravate 95% of THEM and the R's need 5 of every six WnH voters to win an election. Pick a state, any state, find out what proportion is WnH, and look to see how well the R'as have to do to win elections.

Just how far will Gov Brewers insanity resonate in November? I suspect it will at least carry to California, new Mexico, and Texas. Between the Real American party and the T-s, especially considering the overlap, The far right is really doing the Dems a major favor.

AND, it's only April.

Posted by: ceflynline | April 26, 2010 6:22 PM | Report abuse

"About WI: why do Rs not take Leinenkugel seriously? A Former statewide office holder with a beer family name seems a good political combo. Is he a lightweight? Is he again an R who is "too moderate", a snow country Crist? Posted by: mark_in_austin"

Check your spread sheet and go check Politics 1. There are already ten R's running for the nomination most with Internet sites up and running collecting money and getting their message out there. Unless he has some major backing he is just a face in the crowd, and late to a very full dance slate.

Unless he brings some major advantages he is up against everybody else's candidates.

Besides, his primary backers seem to be trolls on this blog, hardly a ringing endorsement.

Posted by: ceflynline | April 26, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse


bsimon1

Your drivers license is supposed to indicate you are a US citizen

What do you want, you want to give illegal aliens drivers' licenses too ???

Next thing you are going to say is illegal aliens should get free health insurance - Oh, isn't that what Obama just did ???


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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 26, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Gallenod

They have these new licenses out there - you are supposed to produce all sorts of documents to get them.

So, they are out there - I've got one


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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 26, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Lets stop arguing about health insurance - AND WORK TOGETHER TO GET ALL THE ILLEGAL ALIENS OUT OF THE COUNTRY.


That is something we all can agree on.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 26, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

....Why should hispanics object to this policy?? The law is the law.....

Posted by: 37thand0street | April 26, 2010 1:57 PM

You truly do not understand the Civil Rights movement nor the Suffragette Movement in this country.

I suggest you repeat elementary and middle schools to get a basic understanding of recent US History.

Posting the Army on the border is too funny. You forgot about the border with Canada. I am darn tired of those Canadians coming down and stealing good curling jobs.

Posted by: ModerateVoter | April 26, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

I believe hispanics are much more sophicated than you give them credit for.

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Indeed they are. Too sophisticated to think this has much of anything to do with illegal immigration. Talked to a few of my Latino friends about this, one of them is really down on illegals, the other isn't .. both responded identically to the bill: with defiance, noting the political power of their voting bloc and how uniformly it was going to be applied.

Against Republicans.

Yeah, sophisticated. and not stupid, unlike the GOP base the the Arizona GOP is appealing to.

Posted by: Noacoler | April 26, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse

37th, you should only deploy Marines or the Army when you have a military objective. They are not a police force who exercise due process in the enforcement of civil law. They are a professional military force that uses lethal force to kill people.

Unless you are suggesting we should treat illegal immgrants as an invading army and just shoot anyone trying to cross the border illegaly? And, by extension, do the same to any we find inside the US?

Fortunately, we're a better country than that.

Posted by: Gallenod | April 26, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

bsimon1: Point taken on Klobuchar, but if you look at the two side-by-side, I think McCaskill brings more benefits. She'd be perceived as more centrist and she's taller, two things that would appeal to more of the electorate (though one is sadly highly superficial, appearance apparently counts for a lot these days). And McCaskill has a lot more experience (27 years worth) with electoral politics in a competitive environment. Klobuchar has only run for two offices: Hennepin County Attorney and US Senate (in a mostly Democratic state). Thus my opinion that McCaskill would be higher on Warner's list.

37th, what on your license identifies you as a US citizen? (Driver's license, fishing license, marriage license?)

Posted by: Gallenod | April 26, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

12BarBlues


First - I believe it is racist to believe that all hispanics should vote one way or the other based on one issue - and that suddenly there is a correct "hispanic" side to this issue.


There are a great deal of hispanics who are here LEGALLY - and believe the law should be enforced.

Those hispanics just might vote based on other issues - not this one.

The army should be sent to the border - tents should be set up along the border


The army and the marines should be patroling the border region

Why should hispanics object to this policy?? The law is the law.

Mexicans have a problem too - there are Central Americans migrating to Mexico - so that border is getting overrun as well.

I believe hispanics are much more sophicated than you give them credit for.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 26, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

"I will give my license to anyone who wants it."


As Gallenod asked, does your license prove you are a legal citizen or visitor?


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Posted by: bsimon1 | April 26, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

So 92% of all Hispanics will vote Dem thanks to this stupidity.

Posted by: ModerateVoter | April 26, 2010 12:52 PM
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Why set your sights so low? It could match African Americans at 96% Democrat.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | April 26, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Bsimon1 in response to your comment at 12:45


What if everyone had to show their papers ?

I am simple offering another PROCEDURE which would satisfy the objections of "RACIAL PROFILING"

Simply put, the law HAS TO be enforced -

To come up with some quibbling about racial profiling- do NOT RACIALLY PROFILE

Ask everyone for their papers - then NO ONE CAN CLAIM DISCRIMINATION - THERE IS NO PROFILING.

It is that simple.

I will give my license to anyone who wants it.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 26, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

"If she's in the limelight somehow, she will be on any Democratic nominee's VP short list for 2016."

Its that limelight thing that I'm asking about. I get the demographic arguments, I'm looking for the 'it' factor. Compared to, say, Sen Klobuchar, what puts McCaskill on the list, but leaves Klobuchar off? ('Nothing' is a plausible answer)

Posted by: bsimon1 | April 26, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse

FANTASY LEAGUE


OK against my better judgement, Chris, you forced me to think about this.


Alright, first all the gerrymandered districts have to pulled out of the mix.

So the league would only involve COMPETITIVE DISTRICTS - you would need someone like CHARLIE COOK to be the Official of the League.

You need a POINT SYSTEM - however with all the districts at different starting points - you need some point system in which everyone starts out on a level playing field.


OK - this is what I propose - you have Charlie Cook or someone else come out with a LIST OF COMPETITIVE DISTRICTS WHICH WILL BE PLAYED - let's say by June 1st.

The points are based on the gain or loss of polling points over a SPECIFIC PERIOD OF TIME - LETS SAY FROM THE FOURTH OF JULY TO THE ELECTION.

For instance - the draft takes place at some point BEFORE THE FOURTH OF JULY.

Then, after the picks are made at the draft, the OFFICIAL OF THE LEAGUE is responsible for choosing a BASE POLL - OR AN AVERAGE OF BASE POLLING for EACH COMPETITIVE RACE WITHIN 2 -3 WEEKS after the 4th of July

So, each CANDIDATE will be assigned, by the OFFICIAL OF THE LEAGUE, a "base polling number or average"

Points are based on how well each candidate does - between the BASE POLL NUMBER AND THE CANDIDATES ACTUAL VOTE PERCENTAGE IN THE NOVEMBER ELECTION.

For instance Candidate 1 is up against Candidate A - the picks are made before the 4th of July.


The base polling average comes out right after the 4th of July (For Candidate 1 the base poll is 52 and the Candidate A is 48)


So on Election night, each candidate gets points based on the DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE BASE POLL NUMBER AND THE ACTUAL PERFORMANCE.


If candidate 1 starts at 52 and gets 54.3% of the vote - the candidate gets 2.3 POINTS -

if candidate 1 gets 47.5% that candidate gets NEGATIVE 4.5 POINTS.

I guess that would put all the picks on a level playing field - AND THE LEAGUE WOULD BE ALL ABOUT HOW WELL A CAMPAIGN GOES UP OR DOWN.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 26, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

bsimon, I anticipate that to many chicano AZ cops you and I will look like Canadian undocs. The statute has its own seeds of destruction. The top cops in Tucson are chicanos. I can see the equal opportunity harassment possibilities.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | April 26, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

The draw of McCaskil? That should be obvious:

1. She's from a midwestern swing state. Warner, being from Virginia, will want someone who knows the "heartland."
2. She's a relatively uncontroversial solid middle-of-the-road moderate.
3. At the risk of sounding sexist, she's a woman. There's still a segment of the population looking for female representation at or near the top of the executive branch.
4. More importantly, she's a competent, articulate woman. (Read into that what you want.)

Look at her profile in the party in four years. If she's in the limelight somehow, she will be on any Democratic nominee's VP short list for 2016.

Posted by: Gallenod | April 26, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

"Hey, that guy looks like an undocumented Latvian - check his papers!"


Posted by: bsimon1 | April 26, 2010 12:45 PM

This made my day....

Posted by: ModerateVoter | April 26, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Just out of curiosity, 3th, what do you routinely carry in your wallet that would prove, beyone a reasonable doubt, that you are a citizen?

I carry several forms of picture ID, but none of them indicate my citizenship. So if I somehow annoy a deputy sherrif while driving through Arizona and I don't happen to have my passport with me (which I don't need, at present, to travel inside the US), under Arizona's new law he could "reasonably" claim that I'm a Canadian living illegaly in the United States and apprehend me on suspicion of being illegal.

I'm all for deporting people who are in the country illegaly, but if Tom Tencredo thinks they've gone too far, they've gone too far.

Posted by: Gallenod | April 26, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

@Gallenod

Your suggestion makes too much sense and one I agree with as a good response to the problem.

However, the stop and ask for papers approach is so much more effective. Effective at driving all but whites to the Dems. So 92% of all Hispanics will vote Dem thanks to this stupidity.

Posted by: ModerateVoter | April 26, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Gallenod asks
"so I'm on topic with at least one of the five points above, if the results of #5 are accurate does that mean we could see a Warner-McCaskill ticket for the Dems in 2016?"


What is the draw of McCaskill?

I expect Warner to be a front-runner in 2016.

Posted by: bsimon1 | April 26, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Gallenod asks
"so I'm on topic with at least one of the five points above, if the results of #5 are accurate does that mean we could see a Warner-McCaskill ticket for the Dems in 2016?"


What is the draw of McCaskill?

I expect Warner to be a front-runner in 2016.

Posted by: bsimon1 | April 26, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

"WHAT IF THE POLICE ASKED EVERYONE FOR THEIR PAPERS???

...

WHY IS THAT SUCH A BURDEN ON LEGAL CITIZENS ???"

There are people who cherish the freedom of anonymity. Law enforcement's time is not effectively spent by reviewing random passers'-by papers. One might even consider a constitutional challenge to such a mechanism on the basis of unreasonable search and seizure and/or lack of probable cause.

If you're walking down the street, do you think its reasonble - and constructive use of their time - for law enforcement to review your 'papers'? And what papers, exactly? drivers license? But what about those without? Must we all register with the government and carry identifying information with us at all times, or risk deportment?

Think about it, mr purported-to-be-a-small-government-conservative, do you really want to grant government agents a mandate to purge the streets of undesirables based on whatever criteria those agents deem relevant?

"Hey, that guy looks like an undocumented Latvian - check his papers!"

Posted by: bsimon1 | April 26, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Enforcing immigration law by simply arresting the illegal immigrants at the bottom of the food chain hasn't worked. That's why we have 11 million of them in the country. We arrest 300 in Iowa and 400 more flow in to take their place.

Saying that Obama isn't enforcing immigration law is misleading. They're currently arresting and deporting people at a record-breaking pace. However, in addition they are also targeting a principal source of the problem: employers who support the dysfunction by hiring illegals.

Case in point: Federal authorities are trying to seize a restaurant in California that they claim has a pattern and practice of hiring illegal immigrants. (http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/apr/25/feds-push-to-seize-restaurant-a-rare-one/) If they succeed, it will give immigration enforcment a whole new set of teeth to work with.

The administration also angered immigration advocates when someone let slip that there was a Federal goal of deporting 400,000 illegals a year (which, even if we had the manpower and infrastructure to make it happen, means it would still take about 28 years to deport all the illegals in the country assuming no more get in.)

Targeting the employers who enable illegal immigration by employing illegals will reduce the flow of inbounds and encourage illegals to leave on their own simply by drying up their chances of employment, with a side benefit of employing citizens and legal residents.

Coupled with targeting the smugglers, who traffic in people, drugs, and counterfeit goods, this will do a lot more to deal with illegal immigration that simply trying to seal the borders or asking people for their papers.

If you want to kill weeds, remove the roots and stop how they transport their seeds.

And, so I'm on topic with at least one of the five points above, if the results of #5 are accurate does that mean we could see a Warner-McCaskill ticket for the Dems in 2016?


Posted by: Gallenod | April 26, 2010 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Rs blocking finance reform might want to think twice:

"Two-thirds of Americans support stricter federal regulation of banks and other financial institutions, and by a double-digit margin the public trusts President Obama more than the Republicans in Congress to handle financial reform, which could be a caution flag for the GOP in an election year.

The public supports reform overall by 65-31 percent, a broad margin that's been steady since midwinter, and trusts Obama more than the Republicans to handle financial reform by 52-35 percent, a 17-point advantage for the president in this new ABC News/Washington Post poll. "

Let's see if this is noted in the Fix.

Posted by: drindl | April 26, 2010 12:35 PM | Report abuse

"Racial profiling" is NOT in the Constitution.


It is that simple.


There are two provisions of the Constitution - One says that searches have to be "reasonable"


The other says that every person is entitled to "due process"


It is REASONABLE to be able to ask people for their papers - the idea of "racial profiling" has been twisted around.

WHAT IF THE POLICE ASKED EVERYONE FOR THEIR PAPERS???


That is where this should go - everyone should be asked for their papers - so no one can claim "racial profiling" - meaning some people are asked and some are not.


WHY IS THAT SUCH A BURDEN ON LEGAL CITIZENS ???


IT IS NOT.

IT IS A GREATER BURDEN ON THE CITIZENS TO ALLOW THE ILLEGAL ALIENS TO RUN WILD - THAN TO START ASKING PEOPLE FOR THEIR PAPERS.

These issues are balancing acts - where is the greater burden to society - allowing the illegals to stay OR asking people for their papers?


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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 26, 2010 12:34 PM | Report abuse

margaret -- didn't you know everyone at the SEC wears kilts to work?

"This week, Arizona signed the toughest illegal immigration law in the country which will allow police to demand identification papers from anyone they suspect is in the country illegally. I know there’s some people in Arizona worried that Obama is acting like Hitler, but could we all agree that there’s nothing more Nazi than saying "Show me your papers?"

There’s never been a World War II movie that didn’t include the line "show me your papers." It’s their catchphrase. Every time someone says "show me your papers," Hitler’s family gets a residual check. So heads up, Arizona; that’s fascism. I know, I know, it’s a dry fascism, but it’s still fascism." Seth Meyers

I think officers in AZ should effect a German accent while saying 'show me your papers' -- so much more threatening that way.

Wonder how long before the checkpoints go up?

Posted by: drindl | April 26, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

No, 37th. Shrink used the correct "stewards" at 9:53, so that would be the first of many misinterpretations in your post. Some are just funnier than others.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | April 26, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

See Obama just doesn't understand what it means to govern - he is too inexperienced and he is too young - he is not mature.


Harry Reid can't help himself - Obama and Harry Reid want to call a vote on Wall St reform and get a headline against the Republicans.


AND YET both Obama and Harry Reid want to turn around and come to a bipartisan agreement with the Republicans so they have something to pass next week.


NOW it's one way or the other - you can't have it both ways.

This apparently was the same issue with Lindsay Grapham this weekend.

If you stand for bipartisan action, you can't reap the benefits of PARTISAN DIVISION MAKING.

It is one or the other.

This is why Obama is going to be driven OUT OF WASHINGTON - AND EVERYONE WILL BE HAPPY TO SEE HIM GO.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 26, 2010 12:19 PM | Report abuse

margaret


I was just repeating that phrase which some other liberal said in an earlier post.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 26, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Why is there not a fantasy political league, Chris? Simple. It's because fanstasy leagues are for losers and morons.

Isn't there enough drama and intigue in the real world of sports and politics? Yes there is. There is no need to dream up situations that aren't real.

Posted by: MikeK3 | April 26, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

"stewarts of the markets" -- 37thandO @10:20

Is that a Bank of Scotland reference?

Posted by: margaretmeyers | April 26, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Mark, bsimon


I don't know the answer - Leinenkugel has massive name recognition in Wisconsin -


People outside Wisconsin might not know the name that well, but that doesn't really matter.

The cheeseheads have a pride to coming from Wisconsin - and that pride is more identifies with small town Wisconsin - the Northwoods kind of loyalty.

Other states have pride yes, but Wisconsin is different.


Lienenkugel is brewed in one of those small towns - in the north of the State - it is iconic of Wisconsin - it is not just any business from the state.

OK


I'm just saying that it just might be a great deal stronger than people from outside the state believe at first.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 26, 2010 11:56 AM | Report abuse

"I'm still wondering how this strategy is supposed to attract moderate/swing voters. "

I'm not sure that it's supposed to, bsimon. I think what we are seeing is an attempt by the Rs to 'energize the base' to try to get the wingers as hopping mad as possible [which, since they remain in a perpetual whinine mode, is easy] and hope for them to come out in strength.

And also to bet on low turnout with the folks who came out for Obama [younger people, latinos, blacks, educated professionals] -- that won't show up for the midterms. So I think you can expect a full bore Southern strategy, with latinos included as 'the enemy.'

I wouldn't be at all surprised if they end up with a presidential ticket like Haley Barbour/Sarah Palin.

Posted by: drindl | April 26, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

What Obama is trying to do is TRY TO DIVIDE THE NATION.

OBAMA WANTS THE HISPANICS ON HIS SIDE -

SO OBAMA IS LOOKING FOR WAYS TO AVOID ENFORCING THE LAW.

THE LAWS MUST BE ENFORCED.


If Obama doesn't want to do his JOB - which is enforce the laws - he should resign.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 26, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

zouk, poor unemployed zouk/zero. going to sit on this board allll day and obsess about me.

poooor sap.

Posted by: drindl | April 26, 2010 11:38 AM | Report abuse

mark_in_austin asks
"About WI: why do Rs not take Leinenkugel seriously?
A Former statewide office holder with a beer family name
seems a good political combo. Is he a lightweight? Is he again an R who is "too moderate", a snow country Crist?"


Your theory has merit:

"Former state Commerce Secretary Dick Leinenkugel distanced himself from the administration of Democratic Gov. Jim Doyle as he launched his campaign Monday as a Republican candidate for US Senate."

http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/92090794.html

Look at zouk's earlier comment as example: Lindsey Graham is denounced as not being part of the center, presumably for being 'too liberal'. Lindsey Graham! The reactionaries now define anyone who suggests compromise or bipartisanship as an unprincipled RINO.

I'm still wondering how this strategy is supposed to attract moderate/swing voters.

Posted by: bsimon1 | April 26, 2010 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Drivl scoured the entire country over the weekend and managed to find a single person, out of over 300 million, that is slightly more unstable than she.

good work Moonbat. time for some jello. sorry you'll have to have the unsweetened kind. you're on a budget, remember.

Posted by: Comrade_Zero | April 26, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

8 posts out of 37 so far today for the mindless and hopelessly unemployed drivl. that seems low, are you feeling
OK old goat?

I think we should have a bailout for low IQ moonbats. We could send the nutjob dribbl off to work in a sewing factory or whatever other simpleton skill she still has. then the internet traffic would free up from all the sludge and garbage that intelligence- free leftists sling around from site to site.

Posted by: Comrade_Zero | April 26, 2010 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Another terrorist nutcase [named McVey -- how perfect is that] tries to get the president...

"An armed man who was spotted at a North Carolina airport parking lot just after Air Force One departed and said he wanted to see the president was to appear before a judge Monday.

Authorities arrested Joseph Sean McVey, 23, of Coshocton, Ohio, on Sunday afternoon at the Asheville Regional Airport and charged him with going armed in terror of the public, a misdemeanor.

A first appearance in court was scheduled for Monday, said Sgt. John Lutz of the Buncombe County jail, where McVey was being held on $100,000 bond.

McVey told an officer in the airport parking lot he wanted to see the president and he had a car equipped with police gear, including a siren and flashing lights, though he did not work in law enforcement, authorities said.

Security was heightened at the airport Sunday because President Barack Obama was leaving after spending the weekend vacationing in Asheville.

At about 2 p.m., airport police saw McVey get out of a maroon car with Ohio plates and that he had a sidearm, airport police Capt. Kevan Smith said. Both airport police and the Secret Service questioned him and he was taken into custody. The suspect was nowhere near the president's plane, which had just departed, and was in a rental car return lot that is open to the public, Smith said.

His car was equipped with clear LED law enforcement-style strobe lights in the front and rear dash, Smith said. The car also had a mounted digital camera in the front window, four large antennas on the trunk lid, and under the steering wheel was a working siren box.

When McVey got out of the car, he was listening to a handheld scanner and radio that had a remote earpiece, Smith said. Police said he was monitoring local agencies and had formulas for rifle scopes on a note in his cup holder..

Posted by: drindl | April 26, 2010 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Even Tom Tancredo --the most insane anti-immigration voice in the country, knows this has gone too far:

'Former Colorado Republican congressman Tom Tancredo is known as a far-right ideologue when it comes to immigration, with fellow Republican Dick Armey lamenting that Tancredo is “alienating” Latinos from the GOP. In 2006, Armey referred to Tancredo as the “cheerleader of jerkiness in the immigration debate.” Tancredo has even joked that he would like to “shut off all immigration.” While Tancredo is, not surprisingly, saying that he supports Arizona going after the issue of undocumented immigration, what’s telling is that even he is worried the law might go too far — showing just how radical the measure really is:

Tancredo applauds the law in that Arizona took control of enforcing laws the federal government hasn’t enforced.

But he questions how police can stop people for any reason. “I do not want people here, there in Arizona, pulled over because you look like [you] should be pulled over,” says Tancredo.

“They’ve taken what we can call an extreme measure.”

Posted by: drindl | April 26, 2010 11:18 AM | Report abuse

what's that? the village voice Idiot speaks?

did hubby forget to leave you ice cream money again? Poor thing. Scratch that. Make that "Poor Us".

Posted by: Comrade_Zero | April 26, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Good Morning Right-Wing Patriots and Allahu Akbar Left-Wingers,

The Democrats --- who believe foreign terrorists should have Constitutional rights, but American companies shouldn't--- are preparing to roll out a new bill to limit the participation of American companies and citizen groups in the political process.

Public employee unions will still be free to launder their taxpayer-provided dues back into the coffers of the Democrat party under this law, of course

Posted by: Comrade_Zero | April 26, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

"Well, every rodeo needs a clown.
Posted by: Comrade_Zero "

And here you are.

Posted by: drindl | April 26, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

RINO Lindsey Graham has withdrawn his support for the Senate's Cap-and-Tax Bill... a massive tax increase wrapped around an ineffectual response to a hoax environmental crisis. This has led the New York TImes's THomas Friendman --- the man who would marry the Chinese Autocracy if he could --- to have a sort of breakdown thingy.


"This is a disaster...This is a travesty. Basically, we were about to send the first bi-partisan legislation for radical move toward more green energy, more green jobs and putting a price on carbon..."

Anytime a twit like Thomas Friedman is throwing a hissy, it's a good day for America.

Friedman, by the way, considers John Kerry, Joe Lieberman, and Lindsey Graham to be America's political center.

Posted by: Comrade_Zero | April 26, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse

So much for repealing HCR -- ain't gonna happen.

'Last month, Sen. Chuck Grassy (R-IA) — a vocal opponent of the new health care law — issued a press release taking credit for some provisions in the new health care law. “The health care legislation signed into law yesterday includes provisions Grassley co-authored to impose standards for the tax exemption of charitable hospitals for the first time,” the release boasted. “The provisions enacted in the new health care law are the result of Grassley’s leadership on tax-exempt organizations’ accountability and transparency, including hospitals.”

Now, Grassley’s office has issued another release, highlighting how the new law would help Medicare beneficiaries in rural Iowa."

Posted by: drindl | April 26, 2010 11:12 AM | Report abuse

here's that violence dribbl was so worried about:

I note that one La Raza protest in Arizona produced more arrests and violence in a single day than all the thousands of Tea Parties have in the last year.


Witnesses say a group protesting against SB1070 (Arizona's harsh new immigration law) began to fight with a man who was for the controversial immigration bill.Police tried escorting that man away from the scene, fearing for his safety, when they too came under attack by people throwing items, including water bottles.

Also, that name, "La Raza," it means "The Race." And their Mission Statement is "For the Race Everything, Outside the Race Nothing." To me, that sounds a whole lot more Ku Klux Klannish than "Taxed Enough Already." But then again, I'm not a member of the Obama Amen Corner or the Mainstream media.

Oh, and America's Premier Race Hustler, Al Sharpton, is on his way to Arizona to see if he can make a buck off the proceedings. Well, every rodeo needs a clown.

Posted by: Comrade_Zero | April 26, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

"Bill Clinton SIGNED the repeal of Glass-Steagall - he could have vetoed it."


Clearly, in hindsight, a mistake. Clinton was a product of the times & bought into the "markets will police themselves" nonsense that some still fail to question.

It is refreshing to see that you, 37th&O, are waking up to the fact that some regulation is, in fact, GOOD.

Posted by: bsimon1 | April 26, 2010 11:05 AM | Report abuse

it is racist to point out that Wendy, Phil, Bliley, and Leach were all Rs. Interesting spin since you fein usage of the race card in everyone of your spamming post every 2 minutes.

Calling folks liars b/c they post the correct R names on legislation is abusive. Rs rammed through repeal of Glass Stegall, Clinton trusted R legislation and stupidly signed it.

Once again why was it proudly called the
Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999; just for fun they pulled R Congressmen's names out of a hat?

Posted by: leichtman1 | April 26, 2010 11:05 AM | Report abuse

"Between 1995 and 2000, Gramm was the chairman of the U.S. Senate Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs. During that time he spearheaded efforts to pass banking deregulation laws, including the landmark Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act in 1999, which removed Depression-era laws separating banking, insurance and brokerage activities"

"UBS's investment banking unit made disastrous forays into subprime lending."


Critics have charged that Gramm's action as a senator helped lay the groundwork for some of the problems in the housing and oil markets. At UBS, Gramm held the post of vice chairman, .. Gramm was a lobbyist and adviser"


he was the Vice Chairman and lobbyist for UBS.

Gramm also aggressively lobbyied for deregulation of derivatives and his wife
on behalf of Enron, remember them, Houstonians certainly do.

Wendy was also chair of the infamous Commodities and Futures trading. A few facts partisan Rs conveniently forget to mention.

Posted by: leichtman1 | April 26, 2010 10:58 AM | Report abuse

leichtman1


Bill Clinton SIGNED the repeal of Glass-Steagall - he could have vetoed it.

See, this is where you are LYING to people.

Blaming Wendy Gramm? That is RACIST.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 26, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Let's just throw the Constitution away, it's so inconvenient.

Posted by: drindl | April 26, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse

"Frustrated that his bargain shopping saved him so little, Davies called on family in the United Kingdom for assistance. When they told him they had found a private hospital in Wales that would perform the surgery for $2,930 [or £1,897], Davies didn't think twice.

He purchased a $768 round-trip ticket, and on March 18, he boarded a flight to the UK to have his polyps removed there at a savings of nearly $30,000."


Do you mean to tell me that in that bastion of socialized medical care, an individual is still free to seek out private healthcare for which they pay out of pocket??

I've heard of people taking medical vacations to places like India, but not to Europe.

Posted by: bsimon1 | April 26, 2010 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Bondosan


The question is whether it is REASONABLE or not.


The country has a MAJOR PROBLEM WITH ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.

It appears that the protesters want the LAW NOT TO BE ENFORCED AT ALL.

How could not enforcing the law be a viable alternative ??

If the protesters can offer a VIABLE WAY to enforce the law, then fine. However, one has to ask oneself, how much of a burden is "showing the papers" when the country is facing MAJOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION PROBLEM ?


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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 26, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse

So much for the 'best health care system in the world'... I guess this guy couldn't scrape together enough chickens to pay for surgery in this country...

'(CNN) -- When Godfrey Davies learned he needed surgery to remove polyps blocking his nasal airways, the self-described bargain shopper set out on a mission to find an affordable surgeon. He quickly learned a good deal is hard to find.

"The total numbers they were throwing at me were just incredible. I couldn't believe it," he says.

Davies, who is semiretired from his real estate business and uninsured, says he received estimates from two surgeons. When hospital, anesthesia and incidental fees were all tallied, the cheapest price he could find in Indianapolis, Indiana, was $33,127 -- which he would need to pay out of pocket.

"I was speechless." Davies recalls. "It was absolutely out of the question financially for me to have this done under those circumstances."

Frustrated that his bargain shopping saved him so little, Davies called on family in the United Kingdom for assistance. When they told him they had found a private hospital in Wales that would perform the surgery for $2,930 [or £1,897], Davies didn't think twice.

He purchased a $768 round-trip ticket, and on March 18, he boarded a flight to the UK to have his polyps removed there at a savings of nearly $30,000. "

Posted by: drindl | April 26, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse

once again Wendy and Phil Gramm wrote the repeal of Glass Stegall. Don't believe that I am sure I can provide the link to the authors of the bill called the Gramm-Leach -Bliley bill(curious why they would just randomly choose names of Rs as the authors), most all were were partisan Rs you conveniently forget to mention. Questions: are you aware of that or do you simply choose to ignore facts which we are all used to by now; do you know what party the Gramm's belong to or are you just feigning ignorance; obviously just more of your off topic rants and animus against Bill Clinton and all Ds.

Posted by: leichtman1 | April 26, 2010 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Charlie Crist has been a switch hitter since his college days. If he drops out of the race will he drop his "wife" too?

Posted by: tctexas | April 26, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Shink2


Your characterization of "stewarts of the markets" ignores the simple facts right in front of you.


The first is both parties are taking obscene amounts of money from Wall Street.

The most important is Bill Clinton REPEALED Glass-Steagall - and Bill Clinton DEREGULATED the derivatives markets.

So YOU are not stating clearly that it is BILL CLINTON'S policies which led to this crash.

Sure, you want to "blame Bush" - but Bush was fighting two wars - and Bill Clinton took most of our intelligence assets of the Middle East - so the country was basically "flying blind" in the Middle East when Bush came in.

Then you may wish to complain about Iraq - however the democrats voted FOR the Iraq war.


I don't know what is worse - being for a way - OR first seeking political gain by being FOR a war, AND THEN switching sides to gain POLITICAL ADVANTAGE.

Harry Reid was running around telling everyone that the Iraqi war was lost - he WASN'T INTRODUCING BILLS ON CAPITOL HILL WHICH WOULD REVERSE BILL CLINTON'S WALL STREET POLICIES.

So, to try to paint a picture that the Wall Street situation was all the Republicans fault is just A LIE.

You forget Hillary ran 3 campaigns in 10 years - fundraising through Wall Street the whole time - never once calling for a reversal of Bill Clinton's policies.

So who's fault is it ?


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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 26, 2010 10:20 AM | Report abuse

Bondosan, you should really just scroll past the crude and shrill bleating of the

VILLAGE IDIOT


--it's a waste of your brain cells to even look.

Posted by: drindl | April 26, 2010 10:07 AM | Report abuse

37:

What about the Arizonans who've been here for generations? Should they be required to "show their papers" as well?

Posted by: Bondosan | April 26, 2010 10:00 AM | Report abuse

MM, thanks for the PA information. It is interesting. Perhaps it is a NE bias, but I have always thought of PA as a bellweather state. Things might not be as bad for the Ds this November as some seem to think.

Posted by: trep1 | April 26, 2010 9:59 AM | Report abuse


The American People have to get RID of Obama's high taxes - before they completely destroy any economic recovery.

It is that simple. We have to do it - we do not have an option.


This country can not allow itself to FALL INTO STAGFLATION FOR YEARS - this is what Obama is doing to the country -


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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 26, 2010 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Its the economy, smart people.

Anyone who still thinks Republicans are better stewards of our markets than Democrats...is just not paying attention.

Hey, they even created a "free trade zone" out of our electoral process. Well, Citizens United fans, freedom is not free.

Posted by: shrink2 | April 26, 2010 9:53 AM | Report abuse

“The Republicans are the ones who liberated Europe in World War II.”


And they put a chicken in every pot and/or doctor's bag!

Posted by: bsimon1 | April 26, 2010 9:48 AM | Report abuse

Bsimon -


You are correct - a person from Wisconsin is called a Cheesehead.


If they object, ask that person if they ever have worn a piece of yellow foam shaped like a wedge of cheese on their heads.


If they say "yes," you say "case closed."


One other quick point - apparently the way to pronounce Wisconsin is this:


SCON - sin - and they say it really fast - Wisonsin has morped into two syllables - with the second syllable said really fast - as if it were a half a syllable.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 26, 2010 9:44 AM | Report abuse

We have a new candidate in New York 19, in a surprisingly upscale district for such a moron. The seat is currently held by Democrat John Hall, although it was held by a Republican for several terms before that.

Actually, it's a very split district that holds both still rural farmland but much of it subdividing and rapidly becoming bluer.

But this gal ain't going nowhere...

Kristia Cavere, the teabagger running in New York’s 19th Congressional district, has a subtle revisionist take on WWII:

“The Republicans are the ones who liberated Europe in World War II.”

With the nutbags emboldened by the MSM's crush on the loutish teabaggers, we will see many candidates not only running to the right but veering waaaaay off into the weeds.

Posted by: drindl | April 26, 2010 9:40 AM | Report abuse

The immigrants - and the migrants - in Arizona should be HAPPY to COOPERATE and show their papers in Arizona. It is the least they could do for THEIR NEW COUNTRY.


What the protesters are saying is this: it is too much of a burden on people who are here legally to show their papers - therefore the solution is NOT to enforce the law.

The law MUST be enforced - and the test of whether the procedure is REASONABLE or not - asking someone for their papers is REASONABLE


If the papers are in order, there should be no problem.


Anyway - I'm sorry but the demonstrators are basically saying - we just GOT HERE, BUT WE ARE MAKING THE RULES. This has to stop. Immigration laws must be respected - AND REV. AL SHAPTON IS JUST LOOKING FOR AN OPPORTUNITY TO MARCH - HE IS NOT OFFERING A VIABLE ALTERNATIVE.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 26, 2010 9:33 AM | Report abuse

4) Wisconsinites or Cheeseheads

1) Kelliher may have enough momentum from the convention to moot Dayton & Entenza. In Ryback's concession speech, he called for the party to rally behind one nominee & for Dayton & Entenza to drop out.

Also of note: Speaker Kelliher has a busy schedule ahead; not only will she be battling with lame duck Pawlenty & his Presidential ambitions, but Reps Seifert & Emmer are sitting in the house over which she presides. I can't imagine that will make for a smooth legislative session...

Lastly, on the bold prediction front, I expect Seifert to be the Repub nominee over Emmer.

Posted by: bsimon1 | April 26, 2010 9:31 AM | Report abuse

"A USA Today survey of 46 leading economists finds that most believe the economy is “shaping up to be stronger than expected and there is little risk the economy will slip back into a recession.” The experts predict growth of 3 percent this year, up from forecasts of 2.8 percent in January."

Posted by: drindl | April 26, 2010 9:18 AM | Report abuse

Shrink, I think one of the provisions of the Blanche Lincoln proposal is to have all derivative trading done through a centralized exchange instead of over the counter. Kind of like an intrade for bankers and investors. That way it's possible for everyone to see what's being traded.

Posted by: DDAWD | April 26, 2010 9:07 AM | Report abuse

Wanna get into the weeds?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/robertpeston/2010/04/goldman_v_the_us_senate.html

When you read the email from the 31 year old Goldman Vice President, "Fab" Tourre, it is hard to believe this system is the one Republicans wish to protect.

Posted by: shrink2 | April 26, 2010 9:04 AM | Report abuse

The over the counter derivatives market is a $450 Trillion industry. No one can look inside it, let alone police it and Republicans want to keep it that way.

I wonder, why?

Maybe Lloyd Blankfein will tell the Senate panel the answer today.

Posted by: shrink2 | April 26, 2010 8:39 AM | Report abuse

Here is an interesting article about party registration in Pennsylvania and how it may effect the primaries in May.

"The Democratic Party that picked Ed Rendell as its candidate in 2002 has become a bigger tent. It has grown by 550,000 members, to more than 4.3 million, and its center of gravity has tilted slightly toward the Philadelphia region. Its voters are a bit younger, a bit more liberal.

The Republican Party has changed in some opposite ways. Its ranks have shrunk by 103,000 voters, to 3.1 million, and its geographic core has shifted slightly west, toward Pittsburgh. With a loss of many moderates, and a failure to attract many new voters, it has become older, more conservative."

http://www.philly.com/inquirer/home_top_stories/20100426_Political_parties_have_changed_since_2002.html

Posted by: margaretmeyers | April 26, 2010 8:19 AM | Report abuse

"why is there not a fantasy political league?"
Because the 20 people who comment on this blog would be the only people who would want to do it.

I am interested to see what Crist ends up doing. I think he is going to pull a Liebermann, and frankly I think he may pull it off.

Posted by: AndyR3 | April 26, 2010 8:07 AM | Report abuse

The "Chicago Way" will be national news all summer.

We have impeached, former Governor Rod Blagojevich subpeoning first Barack Obama and then Dick Durbin. The trial starts in June and appears it will stretch out for three months.

In this matter we have the unredacted federal court filings, by Blagojevich's attorney, that claim that Obama was recommending individuals to replace him in the United States Senate, which Obama has publicly denied. This same filing indicates that Obama also received large illegal campaign contributions from Tony Rezko.

Blagojevich also claims that many of these claims can be substaniiated by the 500 hours of taped conversations that are currently being held by United States Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald.

Then we have Democratic candidate for the United States Senate, Alexi Giannoulis, with his failed bank and the large loans, he authorized, to organized crime figures. When Alexi ran four years ago for political office he was proud of his bank background, now he is downplaying it big time.

The "Chicago Way" is not good for anyone but insiders and crooks!

Posted by: mwhoke | April 26, 2010 7:52 AM | Report abuse

Thank you for these reports, CC.

About IL: did the failure of the family owned bank significantly affect Lexi's personal finances? Probably not, but it is a question worth exploring.

About WI: why do Rs not take Leinenkugel seriously?
A Former statewide office holder with a beer family name
seems a good political combo. Is he a lightweight? Is he again an R who is "too moderate", a snow country Crist?

Posted by: mark_in_austin | April 26, 2010 7:29 AM | Report abuse

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