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Democrats' young voter problem

1. Less than 24 hours after President Barack Obama announced his plan to re-build the coalition that helped elect him in 2008, new numbers from Gallup suggest one of the pillars of that foundation is decidedly shaky.

Less than one in four voters aged 18-29 described themselves as "very enthusiastic" about the 2010 midterm election. Those numbers compare unfavorably to voters between 50 and 64 (44 percent "very enthusiastic"), 65 and older (41 percent "very enthusiastic") and 30 to 49 (32 percent "very enthusiastic").

"The fact that voters under age 50 -- and particularly those under 30 -- are less enthusiastic about voting this year is not a new phenomenon," wrote Gallup's Frank Newport. "Voter turnout typically skews older."

While the data is in keeping with traditional voting patterns, it makes obvious the difficulty facing the White House as they seek to reconstruct the combination of young voters, independents and African Americans who helped propel Obama into the White House.

Looking back at exit polls from the last three presidential races, it's clear that the story is not how young people comprised larger and larger segments of the electorate but rather how much more Democratic they voted between 2000 and 2008.

In each of those three elections, the number of young voters as a percentage of the overall electorate was remarkably similar: 18 percent in 2008, 17 percent in 2004 and 17 percent in 2000.

What changed was how they voted. In 2000, young voters split their votes with 48 percent choosing Al Gore and 46 percent opting for George W. Bush. Four years later John Kerry carried 18-29 year olds by a nine-point margin; Obama won them by a whopping 66 percent to 32 percent.

The Gallup data affirms the clear Democratic tilt of young voters. On a generic congressional ballot test, 51 percent of 18-29 year old vote opted for the Democratic candidate while 39 percent chose the Republican. In every other age group, the generic was either statistically tied or the GOP candidate led. (Republicans' best age group was voters 65 and older who chose a GOP candidate by a 50 percent to 41 percent margin over a generic Democrat.)

Obama's pitch on Monday makes clear the White House understands the necessity of motivating these voters to turn out. But, knowing that you need to turn out young voters and actually doing it are two very different things.

2. The Cook Political Report downgraded Democrats' chances of holding onto the Illinois Senate seat Monday in the wake of the failure of state Treasurer Alexi Giannoulias' family bank last Friday.

The Report, a former Fix employer and one of the two pre-eminent political handicappers in Washington, moved the race from its toss-up category to a "lean Republican" ranking.

"Some Democratic strategists believe that Giannoulias can weather this crisis and remain a competitive general election candidate," they wrote. "We are not so sure."

At issue is whether Giannoulias' decision to take the failure of Broadway Bank head on -- with an ad seeking to explain what happened and why -- is the right one.

Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin (Ill.) defended Giannoulias on the issue on CNN's "John King USA" Monday noting that "he has been removed from that bank for over four years" and "had nothing to do with it because he's our state treasurer."

Cook writes that Democrats are likely to give Giannoulias' strategy a chance to work but that if his fundraising or polling numbers (or both) erode that the search for a replacement candidate is likely to start in earnest.

It's worth noting that Republicans have been close to silent about Giannoulias since the bank's failure, an approach similar to the National Republican Senatorial Committee's non aggression policy toward embattled Sen. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.) last year. Like Dodd, Republicans seem to believe that keeping Giannoulias in the race represents their best chance at winning the seat being vacated by appointed Sen. Roland Burris (D) this fall.

3. Controversial attorney Geoffrey Fieger leads the Democratic primary field for governor in a new independent poll, evidence of how bad off the party is in the Wolverine State.

Fieger, who gained notoriety as the lawyer for assisted suicide doctor Jack Kevorkian, took 28 percent in a survey done by EPIC-MRA for the Detroit Free Press. State House Speaker Andy Dillon placed second with 20 percent followed by Lansing Mayor Virg Bernero at 13 percent and state Rep. Alma Wheeler Smith at eight percent. Twenty-nine percent of those tested were undecided on a candidate.

Fieger was the Democratic nominee against Gov. John Engler (R) in 1998 and spent $3.5 million of his own money but took just 38 percent of the vote. Since that bid, he has floated his name as a potential candidate for any number of statewide offices.

Fieger has yet to decide whether or not to run. But, should he run and win the nomination, national Democrats -- already sour on their chances -- would almost certainly walk away from the race entirely.

The Republican primary then is likely to decide the nominee. Rep. Pete Hoekstra, state Attorney General Mike Cox and wealthy businessman Rick Snyder make up the top tier.

4. Former Indiana Sen. Dan Coats (R) will be feted by Sens. Richard Shelby (R-Ala.) and Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) at separate fundraising events tomorrow morning in Washington as he seeks to bolster his financial standing in advance of a May 4 primary fight.

Both events will be held at the Caucus Room -- a restaurant co-founded by Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour -- with the entrance fee set at $1,000 for individuals and $2,500 for political action committees.

Coats, who served a decade in the Senate before retiring in 1998, put together a surprisingly weak fundraising quarter -- collecting just $379,000 in the first three months of the year. While that total was more than either former Rep. John Hostettler (R) or state Sen. Marlin Stutzman (R) raked in, it was far from the sort of total that put the GOP nomination squarely in Coats' hands. (Stutzman's endorsement from South Carolina Sen. Jim DeMint came after the March 31 first quarter deadline but should significantly improve the conservative favorite's cash flow.)

Thanks to his name identification and financial edge, Coats should win the primary a week from today and move on to face Rep. Brad Ellsworth (D) in the state's open seat race. Anything short of a victory would be read as a blow to Senate Republicans who recruited Coats into the contest.

5. Former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum will head to new Hampshire on Friday to headline a local GOP dinner as he continues to put the pieces in place for a presidential run in 2012.

Santorum will be in Keene, New Hampshire to serve as the keynote speaker at the Cheshire Country Republican party's annual Lincoln Day Dinner -- an event he describes as "an exciting opportunity to share my views on the challenges our country is facing today" which, of course, when passed through the Fix candidate translator means: "I am running for president".

In case you somehow missed that message from Santorum, don't forget that in recent weeks he has been in Iowa, South Carolina and his speech to the Southern Republican Leadership Conference last month in New Orleans.

Santorum, assuming he runs, will have some constituency among social conservatives for whom the issue of abortion is their main -- and in some cases only -- issue. But, as people like Gary Bauer and Alan Keyes have proven in past races, those voters along do not relevancy make.

Santorum's biggest problem? The last race he ran he lost by 18 points while outspending his Democratic opponent by $8 million. And, that defeat came in a state Republicans must find a way to be competitive in the 2012 general election.

By Chris Cillizza  |  April 27, 2010; 6:00 AM ET
Categories:  Morning Fix  | Tags: Al Gore, Barack Obama, Democratic, George W. Bush, John Kerry, President of the United States, Republicans  
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Awww, 37thandO's feelings have been hurt. It's ok, just go to school and learn how to make an argument. You'll get the hang of it eventually.

Posted by: kreuz_missile | April 28, 2010 9:20 AM | Report abuse

"97% of all black voters voted for Barack Obama ONLY because of his skin color, and because he's a tribal member, and now these same black racists are trotting out the race card if one mentions it.
Now that's chutzpah!!!"

That doesn't explain why they voted for Democrats 90+% of the time even when Obama wasn't on the ballot genius.

Maybe this is the more likely answer, as opposed to racist nonsense about "tribalism":

"Do Blacks Have a Reason to Vote GOP? Michael Steele Says No"

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20003147-503544.html

Posted by: kreuz_missile | April 28, 2010 9:17 AM | Report abuse

The democrats' young voter problem is that the leadership still hasn't seen the light on prohibition repeal. They could steal the republicans' thunder on the issue of small government.

Posted by: Antinomian | April 28, 2010 7:33 AM | Report abuse

97% of all black voters voted for Barack Obama ONLY because of his skin color, and because he's a tribal member, and now these same black racists are trotting out the race card if one mentions it.
Now that's chutzpah!!!
Just imagine what these racists would be saying now had 97% of all WHITE voters in America voted for the WHITE candidate and against the BLACK candidate back in the 2008 elections, and you'll see exactly who the real racists are.

Posted by: armpeg | April 27, 2010 7:45 PM | Report abuse

Blankfein is good. He's asked a question, like, "you decided to reduce your exposure to the mortgage market". Blankfein says, "I don't think we ever decided to reduce our exposure...". Then, the memo is produced that says "you decided to reduce your exposure...". Then, Blankfein says, well I wasn't thinking we should "reduce", maybe I was thinking we should just "clean up".

Posted by: 12BarBlues | April 27, 2010 7:02 PM | Report abuse

Can you imagine if any President tried to rally his or her troops and said, I'm calling on all White people, Asians, old people, and those of European descent to get out and vote?

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In other words, a typical Tea Party rally.

Posted by: JakeD3 | April 27, 2010 10:44 AM
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Totally cosign. Your post also applies to Phalin rallies.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | April 27, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Why bother 12Bar -- the guy wants to keep the financial system just like it is, so it will continue to be able to rob people like him. Republicans are so lucky that their base is composed of patsies and marks.

Posted by: drindl | April 27, 2010 6:03 PM
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If leapin wants the financial system to stay the same, he should say so. Then he'd for filibustering and blocking everything as much as possible. Maybe leapin is a very wealthy individual who is making money from derivatives that he fears might disappear.

What I really suspect, though, is that leapin wants control. He's like a guy who's standing on the side of the road waiting for the bus. When it comes, he won't get on unless the bus driver moves to the back and lets leapin drive. Of course, that isn't going to happen, so leapin just keeps standing on the side of the road, bellowing in rage.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | April 27, 2010 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Why bother 12Bar -- the guy wants to keep the financial system just like it is, so it will continue to be able to rob people like him. Republicans are so lucky that their base is composed of patsies and marks.

Posted by: drindl | April 27, 2010 6:03 PM | Report abuse

John McCain is now hammering on Blankfein. McCain says GS got $10b in TARP, even though GS didn't hold mortgages. GS made a lot of money recently and Blankfein got a $9m bonus. GS is doing well, meanwhile community banks are going down every day.

McCain wants to know the difference between a wager on a football game and a synthetic CDO.

McCain tells Blankfein that Americans blame GS for a lot of this mess, and that GS is doing well, but everyone else is suffering.
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Would John McCain be for reform or for keeping everything the same?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | April 27, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse

kreuz_missile


Can you think of a basis on which we can have you deported ???


For the good of the country, of course.

Get on that, will ya?

.

Posted by: 37thand0street | April 27, 2010 5:57 PM | Report abuse

I agree, I can say I am for all these things, especially the free stuff.

Posted by: shrink2
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You just can't say how you would pay for the free stuff.

Posted by: leapin

Free stuff is an oxymoron.


Posted by: shrink2 | April 27, 2010 5:51 PM | Report abuse

@leapin,

It's real simple. Do you want to keep the present financial system or do you want it to change? Nothing to do with liberal or conservative.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | April 27, 2010 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Here are the definitions in political-speak:

1. Reform means change.

2. Blocking means keep everything the way it is.

Which message is stronger

Posted by: 12BarBlues
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To those who question what "reform" means or typical liberal voters?


Posted by: leapin | April 27, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Blankfein just told Sen Levin that it's irrelevant to GS clients that GS is shorting the same securities that GS is selling to the client, or that GS thinks the security is "a bunch of crap". The clients, according to Blankfein, wouldn't care. Not that GS would test that hypothesis by telling the clients.

Wow!

I'll bet GS clients didn't know that until today.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | April 27, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse

"Anybody can say they are for reform, or education, or clean water, or free stuff."

I agree, I can say I am for all these things, especially the free stuff.

Posted by: shrink2
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You just can't say how you would pay for the free stuff.

Posted by: leapin | April 27, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

"Anybody can say they are for reform, or education, or clean water, or free stuff."

I agree, I can say I am for all these things, especially the free stuff.

Posted by: shrink2 | April 27, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

@leapin,

Here are the definitions in political-speak:

1. Reform means change.

2. Blocking means keep everything the way it is.

Which message is stronger?

What I suspect you want is a third path. You want reform, but you want to be the one in charge of reform. Frankly, you don't get that choice. 65 million voters elected Obama and Democratic controlled Congress versus 57 million who wanted the other guys. When your side wins, THEN you get to define reform. Until then, you only get to decide whether to part of the problem (status quo) or part of the solution (reform).

Posted by: 12BarBlues | April 27, 2010 5:26 PM | Report abuse

What midterm elections?

No, seriously, the only thing that matters is that Income Tax for the Rich and Marijuana legalization initiatives and propositions are on the ballot in the Western states.

Turnout will be off the charts.

Posted by: WillSeattle | April 27, 2010 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Obama has already gone after McConnell and he's laying into the Republicans nice and early this time. You think Republicans are going to be happy with six months of being blamed for blocking financial reform?

Posted by: DDAWD
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Tell us exactly how this financial reform is going to work. Anybody can say they are for reform, or education, or clean water, or free stuff.

Posted by: leapin | April 27, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

I think it's more likely one of those "majority of the majority" things; it's something the hard right in AZ has been pushing for years that was vetoed by Gov Napolitano. With Brewer facing a tight primary, the Tea Party being very active in AZ and looking at party purity, and Hayworth and others making a big deal out of the immigration issue for THIS election cycle, they decided the short term spoils would be worth it.

Posted by: kreuz_missile | April 27, 2010 5:09 PM
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You're saying what I'm thinking. The AZ R's did this, on their own, for their own political purposes. Makes sense.

Based on the all-over-the-map reactions of non-AZ Republicans, this move was not well coordinated with the national party. Maybe, it wasn't coordinated AT ALL. The national party does not benefit from this, I wouldn't think.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | April 27, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

I think it's more likely one of those "majority of the majority" things; it's something the hard right in AZ has been pushing for years that was vetoed by Gov Napolitano. With Brewer facing a tight primary, the Tea Party being very active in AZ and looking at party purity, and Hayworth and others making a big deal out of the immigration issue for THIS election cycle, they decided the short term spoils would be worth it.

Posted by: kreuz_missile | April 27, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Hilarious comment made by Goldman Sachs guy to Sen Coburn:

We have a 14 point Goldman Principles document that we require each employee to sign.

Gee, I thought they had one Principle: $

Posted by: 12BarBlues | April 27, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

This will be a disaster for Arizona -- to say nothing of the fact that it's so unconstitutional that I predict a federal judge will prevent Arizona from enforcing it as soon as they attempt to do so. That will probably be tomorrow.

Posted by: kreuz_missile | April 27, 2010 4:49 PM
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If AZ is stopped from enforcing the law within a few days, it will be clear that the AZ R's want the issue, not the solution.

Is it possible that the AZ Republicans actually went off the rails here without a buy-in from the national Republican party?

Since AZ is a red state by 200,000 votes in 2008, maybe AZ R's didn't think there was much risk in losing AZ. I doubt the national R's would feel the same--they need 10 million new voters to win 2012.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | April 27, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

FYI, FOXNews Legal Analyst Judge Napolitano (hardly a liberal source) on the Arizona Immigration issue:


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Napolitano: She's (Gov Brewer) gonna bankrupt the Republican Party and the state of Arizona. Look at what happened to the Republicans in California with the proposition --

Cavuto: What happens?

Napolitano: Ah, Hispanics -- who have a natural home in the Republican Party because they are socially conservative -- will flee in droves. She's also gonna bankrupt her state, because no insurance company will provide coverage for this. And for all the lawsuits that will happen -- for all the people that are wrongfully stopped -- her budget will be paying for it. Her budget will be paying the legal bills of the lawyers who sue on behalf of those that were stopped.

This will be a disaster for Arizona -- to say nothing of the fact that it's so unconstitutional that I predict a federal judge will prevent Arizona from enforcing it as soon as they attempt to do so. That will probably be tomorrow.

Posted by: kreuz_missile | April 27, 2010 4:49 PM | Report abuse

"You have lost every point, along with broadwayjoe - and ddawd - and I'll throw in soft on terrorism on top of it."

You mean like the one where you tried to blame an incinerator that environmentalists oppose as being part of an environmentalist experiment?

Or where you claimed the Supreme Court set a precedent with random roving patrols asking for IDs when they stated specifically that random roving checks wouldn't pass the test?

Ah well, I guess in your own warped mind those constitute winning points...

Posted by: kreuz_missile | April 27, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Now I've seen it all...a Virginia gun lobby now wants the right to drink while carrying a concealed handgun.

In Montana, where I come from, we've got a LOT of experience with drunken gunmen in bars. All weapons (guns, knives, knuckles, shivs) have to be surrendered to the bartender who throws them into a box below the bar. When you leave, you get it back. I doubt there's any law that requires it, but no one would spend 5 minutes in a bar with a bunch of drunk armed guys. You don't want to surrender your weapon, don't worry about it. Four or five guys will escort you back out to the parking lot and your feet won't even touch the ground.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | April 27, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Latest addition to high crimes and misdemeanors:

Failure to produce the birth certificate from Kenya.

Failure to follow through on all campaign promises within 15 months.

Failure to be a Republican.

Failure to be all white.

Failure to be nonpartisan.

Failure to squeeze the toothpaste tube from the bottom.

new: Failure to agree with 37th, and therefore is a racist.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | April 27, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

"Health care is NOT interstate commerce - the country has been around for over 200 years and it has ALWAYS been under the domain of the States. Health care has traditionally been regarded as a State power."

Are you saying that health care does not cross state lines? And what about Medicare and Medicaid? Are those not federal interventions in health care?

"The 10th Amendment - The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. How hard is that to understand ????"

I just showed you how the Constitution does delegate those powers to the Congress. How hard is THAT to understand?

Posted by: kreuz_missile | April 27, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Obama's taxes are going to choke off hiring in the fragile economic recovery - and drag down the economy.


Our only chance is to work together to repeal all the Obama taxes.

And yes Bill Clinton did repeal Glass - Steagall - and Bill Clinton deregulated the derivatives markets - the democrats wanted to take credit for these things Bill Clinton did, until the whole thing came crashing down.


Yes, blame whoever you want -

However Bill Clinton is the leading person who deserves blame.


And people like you who support these clowns.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 27, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

kreuz

Health care is NOT interstate commerce - the country has been around for over 200 years and it has ALWAYS been under the domain of the States. Health care has traditionally been regarded as a State power.

The 10th Amendment - The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

How hard is that to understand ????

Your points are all WORTHLESS.

How long will it take you to crawl back under the rock you came from ???

Posted by: 37thand0street | April 27, 2010 4:23 PM

I am confused...How does the "selling" of an insurance policy (a product) not come under interstate commerce.

Also, why does every unbiased lawyer say the chances of this bill getting over turned are Nil?

Posted by: ModerateVoter | April 27, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

kreuz_missile


You have lost every point, along with broadwayjoe - and ddawd - and I'll throw in soft on terrorism on top of it.

Thank you .


Goodbye.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 27, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

I expect the AZ law will be repealed as soon as the first lawsuit against a small town that can't afford it occurs... unless they want to bankrupt the whole state -- but maybe that's what Republicans are after.

Posted by: drindl | April 27, 2010 4:12 PM
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Didn't Mike Huckabee say the other day that this law will produce a flood of lawsuits which will bankrupt and paralyze the state.

It will be interesting to watch this thing unfold...The appeals, the lawsuits, the demonstrations, the unanticipated effects.

In many ways, I am sympathetic with AZ because they are ground zero of the immigration influx. But, this law while it WILL certainly dampen illegal immigration, will also hurt Republicans' chances of attracting new Hispanic voters.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | April 27, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

I expect the AZ law will be repealed as soon as the first lawsuit against a small town that can't afford it occurs... unless they want to bankrupt the whole state -- but maybe that's what Republicans are after.

Posted by: drindl | April 27, 2010 4:12 PM
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Didn't Mike Huckabee say the other day that this law will produce a flood of lawsuits which will bankrupt and paralyze the state.

It will be interesting to watch this thing unfold...The appeals, the lawsuits, the demonstrations, the unanticipated effects.

In many ways, I am sympathetic with AZ because they are ground zero of the immigration influx. But, this law while it WILL certainly dampen illegal immigration, will also hurt Republicans' chances of attracting new Hispanic voters.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | April 27, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

kreuz


Health care is NOT interstate commerce - the country has been around for over 200 years and it has ALWAYS been under the domain of the States. Health care has traditionally been regarded as a State power.

The 10th Amendment - The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.


How hard is that to understand ????


Your points are all WORTHLESS.

How long will it take you to crawl back under the rock you came from ???

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 27, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

"Obama will be impeached - FALSE CHARGES OF RACISM is a violation of the Civil Rights Act of 1964."

Really? And if it was, when did he charge anyone with being racist? It seems these days falseley charging people with racism is a conservative pasttime.

Posted by: kreuz_missile | April 27, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Cillizza,

I have enjoyed reading your blog periodically for about two years, keep up the good work. I don't know if you read your comment section on your posts, but if you do God bless you. You certainly have an interesting readership group that have very... unique opinions that they express here.

(Also, I enjoy FNL as well)

Posted by: panmas | April 27, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Obama will be impeached - FALSE CHARGES OF RACISM is a violation of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.


Enjoy.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 27, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

So, 37thand0street. having lost one every point even tangentially related to this discussion, now whips out Bill Clinton was soft on terrorism???

Posted by: kreuz_missile | April 27, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: websterr1

So tell us.
What would you call someone that spoke about how a particular race should vote in a particular way. You know...like Obama did.

If a Republican came out and said" "It is up to each of you to make sure that the older people, White People, Asians and men who powered our victory in 2004 stand together once again..." what would you say about that.
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The answer? It's only racism if a white conservative does it.

Just look at Obama's pastor the he threw under the bus when it was politically expedient . . .

One of the most "racist" hatemongers I have ever seen . . . God - "d" America

Only white people can be called racist - tell me it's not the case.

Posted by: reddog62 | April 27, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Bill Clinton and the democrats CONVINCED al-queda that America was a bunch of wusses.

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Benotman attributes al-Qaida's overconfident attitude to the United States' response to al-Qaida attacks on its in embassies in Nairobi, Kenya and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania in 1998.

Zawahiri, according to Benotman, expected only a missile attack.

"When they attacked the embassies in East Africa, they estimated the U.S. launched 75 cruise missiles and eight people got killed. So they said this time, maybe they will launch 200 and they laughed about this."


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It is pathetic what the democrats have done to this country.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 27, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

So, what high crime or misdemeanor will you be going after this time?

Posted by: kreuz_missile | April 27, 2010 4:10 PM
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From what I read on this blog, here will be the charges:

Failure to produce the birth certificate from Kenya.

Failure to follow through on all campaign promises within 15 months.

Failure to be a Republican.

Failure to be all white.

Failure to be nonpartisan.

Failure to squeeze the toothpaste tube from the bottom.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | April 27, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

I expect the AZ law will be repealed as soon as the first lawsuit against a small town that can't afford it occurs... unless they want to bankrupt the whole state -- but maybe that's what Republicans are after.

Posted by: drindl | April 27, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

"Does anyone know how long it will take for the Supreme Court to declare that health care is within the power of the States, and not the federal government ???"

Art 1 Sec 8
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States

Art 1 Sec 8
The Congress shall have Power...to regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

Amendment 16
The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.

Power to tax from all sources in order to provide for the general welfare and with the power to regulate interstate commerce. All right there in the Constitution. Don't like it? Amend it. The court won't strike it down without a few more conservative activists on it.


"Good luck with that - the Republicans are going to take everything down - and Obama is going to be impeached."

That worked out great for you guys last time. So, what high crime or misdemeanor will you be going after this time?

Posted by: kreuz_missile | April 27, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Call Bill Clinton and ask him what he thinks about this interview:

Benotman attributes al-Qaida's overconfident attitude to the United States' response to al-Qaida attacks on its in embassies in Nairobi, Kenya and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania in 1998.

Zawahiri, according to Benotman, expected only a missile attack.

"When they attacked the embassies in East Africa, they estimated the U.S. launched 75 cruise missiles and eight people got killed. So they said this time, maybe they will launch 200 and they laughed about this."

________________________________

Thank you.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 27, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Tom Tancredo must have gotten a memo, because he's now claiming he was misquoted, and did not say the AZ undoc law goes too far. Now he is saying he would welcome such a law in Colorado.

Those flying pigs are ditching into the ground.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | April 27, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

kreuz_missile


Good luck with that - the Republicans are going to take everything down - and Obama is going to be impeached.

If you do not agree with me, you are a racist.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 27, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

@koolkat,

I guess pmendez doesn't want to show his papers. hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.......wonder why?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | April 27, 2010 3:59 PM | Report abuse

12BarBlues


Does anyone know how long it will take for the Supreme Court to declare that health care is within the power of the States, and not the federal government ???

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 27, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

"Does anyone know how long it will take to get the health care bill repealed??"

About as long as it will take to repeal Social Security...going on 73 years for that one

Posted by: kreuz_missile | April 27, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

"What would you call someone that spoke about how a particular race should vote in a particular way. You know...like Obama did."

He didn't say that, he said his base should do their part to encourage them to get to the polls. He didn't say anything about how they should vote.


"If a Republican came out and said" "It is up to each of you to make sure that the older people, White People, Asians and men who powered our victory in 2004 stand together once again..." what would you say about that. Be honest."

No I wouldn't say it was racist in and of itself, but I'd think it was a suicidal strategy. I'd say it was proof of what the Dems had been saying for years about the Southern Strategy. They are trying to run away from the mantle of being the party of old white guys. Why embrace that, especially when they have no problem turning those demographics out? If those demographics were underrepresented at election time, I could see it; but then, this is why there is a double standard - racism, once again, is about belief in racial supremacy, not about working to balance the scales.

Posted by: kreuz_missile | April 27, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

@kreuz,

2. Does anyone know how long it will take for the AZ law to be appealed?"

To start or make it to SCOTUS?
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To start. I'm assuming (and perhaps shouldn't) that the first appeal will include some kind of suspension of the law, if found for the plaintiffs. I'm also assuming it will eventually go to SCOTUS, but may take a couple years.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | April 27, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

kreuz_missile

Does anyone know how long it will take to get the health care bill repealed??

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 27, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

"1. Didn't the courts martial for Lt. Col. Lukin start? Does anyone know how his attempt to subpoena the President's birth certificate is going?"

Gonna fall flat on its face. A good summary here:
http://www.caaflog.com/2010/04/21/thinking-about-the-lakin-case/

"2. Does anyone know how long it will take for the AZ law to be appealed?"

To start or make it to SCOTUS?

"On the amazing front:

3. Marco Rubio criticized the new AZ undoc law."

Not only that, but Tom Tancredo said today: "I do not want people here, there in Arizona, pulled over because you look like should be pulled over."

If Tom Tancredo has reservations....

Posted by: kreuz_missile | April 27, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

I'm not enthusiastic about the midterm elections either, but each time I hear the President called a racist or a socialist, I get a bit more enthusiastic--for voting straight Dem.
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So tell us.
What would you call someone that spoke about how a particular race should vote in a particular way. You know...like Obama did.

If a Republican came out and said" "It is up to each of you to make sure that the older people, White People, Asians and men who powered our victory in 2004 stand together once again..." what would you say about that. Be honest. How many leftists here would cry racism? Sure, some Republicans do at times use certain "code words". But not Obama, heck, he just comes right out and says it. At least he's honest...I guess.

Posted by: websterr1 | April 27, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

pmendez, please show us your papers.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | April 27, 2010 3:14 PM
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Touche.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | April 27, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

I'm not enthusiastic about the midterm elections either, but each time I hear the President called a racist or a socialist, I get a bit more enthusiastic--for voting straight Dem.

Posted by: distance88 | April 27, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

On the legal front:

1. Didn't the courts martial for Lt. Col. Lukin start? Does anyone know how his attempt to subpoena the President's birth certificate is going?

2. Does anyone know how long it will take for the AZ law to be appealed?

On the amazing front:

3. Marco Rubio criticized the new AZ undoc law.

"I think aspects of the law, especially that dealing with 'reasonable suspicion,' are going to put our law enforcement officers in an incredibly difficult position. It could also unreasonably single out people who are here legally, including many American citizens. Throughout American history and throughout this administration we have seen that when government is given an inch it takes a mile."

Is his stance going to hurt his campaign in Florida?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | April 27, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Young people being more liberal in their youth is nothing new. It's been that way for generations. Our kids are indoctrinated by teachers/professors who are socialist academics and are mostly unionized government workers. People tend to move more to the right as they start paying taxes, have kids in school being taught by socialist beauracrats and who want to actually save some of what they earn for retirement.

Those young people eventually see reality that the liberal path is the path to destruction.

That's just the way it is.

Posted by: RobParker | April 27, 2010 3:09 PM

To sum up...

You either learn the error of your ways and become a conservative or you are too stupid the learn and stay a liberal...

Nice logic there

I was actually the opposite. I was more conservative young and became a moderate as I got older. I guess those socialist teachers failed.

I always figured parents had the most influence on kids.

Posted by: ModerateVoter | April 27, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

pmendez, please show us your papers.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | April 27, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

All this survey proves is that younger people are INCREASINGLY voting Democratic, and will continue to do so, as the R party becomes more fossilized and irrelevant.

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Young people being more liberal in their youth is nothing new. It's been that way for generations. Our kids are indoctrinated by teachers/professors who are socialist academics and are mostly unionized government workers. People tend to move more to the right as they start paying taxes, have kids in school being taught by socialist beauracrats and who want to actually save some of what they earn for retirement.

Those young people eventually see reality that the liberal path is the path to destruction.

That's just the way it is.

Posted by: RobParker | April 27, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Gee. I wonder how Pelosi and Co expected a bunch of healthy young people to react when an unconstitutional mandate to purchase govt approved health insurance is foisted upon them ... So that they may pay for the health care of those that made questionable descisions in thier lives? Not rocket science, Nancy. Not rocket science ;)

Posted by: madhtr | April 27, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Shocker...

Obama's electorate are too busy trying to find a job.....

Since he didn't express interest in rallying the white guys yesterday, we're at work watching him figure out how he's going to legalize 20 million illegal immigrants before November.

Posted by: RobParker | April 27, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Is it any wonder?

The Democrats lie just as well as the Republicans.

Obama is a fraud when compared to his rhetoric.

Posted by: tom_walker | April 27, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Funny thing is that the people Obama is trying to rally are the ones being screwed the most by his policies.

Posted by: akwa01 | April 27, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Funny thing is that the people Obama is trying to rally are the ones being screwed the most by his policies.

Posted by: akwa01 | April 27, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Like, voting for a black dude for president was so totally awesome!

But voting for old, white dudes I've never heard of is, like, totally lame.

Democrats to receive an historic thrashing in November:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2010/04/14/how_bad_could_2010_really_get_for_democrats_105152.html

"...it is well within the realm of possibility - not merely a far-fetched scenario - that Democratic losses could climb into the 80 or 90-seat range. The Democrats are sailing into a perfect storm of factors influencing a midterm election, and if the situation declines for them in the ensuing months, I wouldn't be shocked to see Democratic losses eclipse 100 seats."

Posted by: pmendez | April 27, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Racism - you guys keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means....

Racism: The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
- American Heritage Dictionary

So, how does voter outreach to historically disenfranchised groups demonstrate a belief in their superiority? Much more like a belief that they have, by right, an equal voice in society and should make that known.

DDAWD, positivity is good, but Dems will lose seats this year, they're so overextended right now it's unavoidable. They'll regain at least three house seats (DE, IL, and LA), but they'll probably lose 25-30, mostly blue dog seats, and probably 4 Senate seats (bank ND; DE, IN and AR are probable if Halter doesn't knock off Lincoln, while CO, IL, NV, and PA are toss-ups along with current R-seats in MO, OH, NH, and FL if Crist goes Indy).

Posted by: kreuz_missile | April 27, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Apparently, the only elected Democrat is the President. There are apparently no democrats in Congress nor the Administration. The only vision is coming from the President, one person, one fricken person.

I understand we have a majority but from the wusses I see in Congress, they are being cowed by the ReThugs even when they have a majority.

Why are the young not interested, read what I just wrote. Why would anyone fight for you when you won't fight for yourselves.

Posted by: mjcc1987 | April 27, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

The only thing to think about in November when voting? Do you want the same guys that were in power in 2000 to 2008 OR do you want to go a diferent direction? Just ask yourself that question when voting!

Posted by: lunetrick | April 27, 2010 2:35 PM
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Anything........and anyone is better then the clueless corrupt crooks we have in Washinton DC right now......

Stay tuned ......Tuesday night November 2nd 2010 is a night that will live in infamy as Independents and Republicans and some Democrats combine their efforts to PURGE the Democrats out of DC.......

Posted by: allenridge | April 27, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Gee whiz Chris........... I guess its time to start running some stories on the bad "Democrat Brand" huh?

You know kinda like what our liberal/progressive MSM wolfpack did to the GOP.........remember that Chris?

Posted by: allenridge | April 27, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

The only thing to think about in November when voting? Do you want the same guys that were in power in 2000 to 2008 OR do you want to go a diferent direction? Just ask yourself that question when voting!

Posted by: lunetrick | April 27, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Hey, reddog, if you want to consider his appearances in those races "concerted efforts," then be my guest. Obviously it's not true reality isn't going to conform to what you say.

I HOPE Republican politicians take the same mindset you do. And who knows? They aren't very smart, so they might. I really doubt it, though. But don't get me wrong. I'd love for them to underestimate Obama yet again.

Posted by: DDAWD | April 27, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Obama has already racially divided our country by playing the race card asking for Black and Latino votes. I guess anyone who isn't one of these -- Native American, Eastern and Middle Eastern, and Caucasian, etc. are not acceptable.
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Here's the real deal:

Since Obama has taking office the uptick on racial profiling has triple by "Redneck Honkies"...Do not equate Caucasians with those rednecks in Alabama, Mississippi, Arizona, Geogia etc.

Most Caucuasians are above this racial thing because they are not narrow-minded backwood folks who grandparents taught them the only purpose for a white sheet is to cut four holes in it!

All you redneck prejudice folks...Don't for a minute think the average smart person is buying into your hype, not only is it "bass ackward" but it shows the intelligence of a non educated person...and last I checked majority of Caucasians have a good breed of education

So take your Southern policies and stick them up all over your little mayberry towns...Who gives a damn!...Just don't try insisting that all Caucasians are buying into you backwood southern folks who only believe what Blanketshiit tell you!

Posted by: danders5000 | April 27, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Those are liberal code words for racism.

Posted by: hz9604 | April 27, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Neither Obama nor the Democrats have given their voters any reasons to be enthusiastic. They have lapsed into the uninspiring world insider-Washington politics. They've knuckled under to the Republicans, and haven't even tried to seriously defend themselves (and by extention, their supporters) from the Tea Party reactionaries.

And now they're surprised? Oh, please.

Posted by: MagicDog1 | April 27, 2010 2:29 PM | Report abuse

You want us back? Dump the hard left of the party.

You have Leninist running things right now and i for one will never go back to the democrats while they are calling the shots.

Posted by: scon101 | April 27, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: DDAWD

Reddog, great logic. The fact that Obama is campaigning means the Democrats are going to lose, right?

Well, I guess the Republicans can just sit back and let the votes come in.

The fact is, that when Obama makes a concerted effort, there is no one more able to change public opinion. Just look at how the polling changed on health care when Obama started really stumping for it. Will Republicans take Obama's stumping as a sign of weakness? Of course not. Not unless they are really stupid and they hate power.
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If you're refering to "stumping" as the magic Obama created in the 3 races he tried to salvage all ending in a democrat loss . . . and finally, in Mass. where the democrat running ran into a "stump" and lost.


Posted by: reddog62 | April 27, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Today, former Florida House Speaker and Republican senatorial candidate Marco Rubio became one of the first Republican candidates running for major office to denounce a new immigration law passed by Arizona that aims to “identify, prosecute and deport” undocumented immigrants.

In a statement released today, Rubio indicated that he has “concerns about this legislation” specifically relating to the probability that it could lead to racial profiling and “unreasonably single out people who are here legally.”

well, well.

Posted by: drindl | April 27, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Reddog, great logic. The fact that Obama is campaigning means the Democrats are going to lose, right?

Well, I guess the Republicans can just sit back and let the votes come in.

The fact is, that when Obama makes a concerted effort, there is no one more able to change public opinion. Just look at how the polling changed on health care when Obama started really stumping for it. Will Republicans take Obama's stumping as a sign of weakness? Of course not. Not unless they are really stupid and they hate power.

Posted by: DDAWD | April 27, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Gosh, I hope Rick Santorum runs for president, if only because his eponym will reappear on everyone's minds. Good old santorum...

As for how "enthusiastic" voters are about the midterms, I consider myself just this side of political junkie, but I can't say I'm "very enthusiastic" about November. Then again, I'm a District voter, so why would I even bother showing up?

Posted by: Elnok | April 27, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

"Democrap Socialist...racist and Communist...racist and Communist...Communist...Communists's...Karl Marx...Saul Alinsky...Democrap Party...Communist Police State...Lenin-, Mao- Castro-, and Chavez--like clone...Democrap Party...Democrap SOCIALIST Party...America's Communist Party"

Positive thinking! A bold vision for tomorrow! Vote Republican for a better future!

Posted by: Blarg | April 27, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse

"The racism was made official in yesterday's call for Blacks and Hispanics to come out in 2010."

Is he ageist for calling on the young to turn out as well? Or sexist for calling on women to vote?


Seriously, this makes someone a racist:

"You told us your first priority was to make sure the same people who were inspired to vote for the first time in 2008 go back to the polls in 2010. So that's what we're going to do. … It will be up to each of you to make sure that the young people, African Americans, Latinos, and women, who powered our victory in 2008 stand together once again. … If you help us do that – if you help us make sure that first-time voters in 2008 make their voices heard again in November – then together we will deliver on the promise of change, hope, and prosperity for generations to come.”

Telling folks to remind folks who normally don;t show up to vote that their vote matters and they should continue to vote, how racist....

Posted by: kreuz_missile | April 27, 2010 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: DDAWD

Republicans are going to lose seats this November. I'm really looking forward to it. No matter how much 37th types his garbage over and over again, it's not going to change the reality. People are PISSED. Go talk to anyone who is paying attention. Anyone.
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What are you smoking?

The fact that Obama is trying to go after his base tells you he's not even sure about them.

Come down from your "Obama High"

Posted by: reddog62 | April 27, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

I think young people recognize the Racism in this President. I don't think they want to be used as pawns by this Racist president. They do not want their own ambitions minimized for the glorification of the Racist Barack Obama.

The racism was made official in yesterday's call for Blacks and Hispanics to come out in 2010.

Posted by: hz9604 | April 27, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Yesterday the Republican Party had a clear choice ... respect the wishes of an overwhelming majority of the American people or to kowtow to Wall Street. And from coast-to-coast, headlines reflected that choice loud and clear:

* The Los Angeles Times:

Republican senators block debate on finance bill

* The New York Times:

GOP Blocks Debate on Financial Oversight Bill

* MSNBC:

GOP blocks financial reform bill

* The Boston Globe:

Republicans reject advancing financial regulations bill

* USA Today:

GOP blocks Senate action on financial overhaul

* CBS News:

Republicans Block Debate on Financial Reform Bill

* Market Watch:

Republicans block bank-reform bill

* The San Francisco Chronicle:

Financial overhaul bill debate blocked by GOP

* Business Week:

Republican Rejection of Finance Bill May Open Party To Attacks

Posted by: drindl | April 27, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

"Harry Reid is trying to keep these stupid votes going - he isn't negotiating in GOOD FAITH - CAN YOU SEE THAT THE ACTIONS OF THE DEMOCRATS THIS WEEK ARE FRAUD AGAINST OBAMA'S CAMPAIGN COMMITMENTS ??"

These "stupid votes" are about bringing the bill to the floor of the Senate for debate. Why are you against that???

Posted by: kreuz_missile | April 27, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

'The fact is that Obama IS a racist
Posted by: armpeg'

Actually, the fact is that YOU are a racist -- in addition to being a certifiable whack job, as you keep demonstrating.

Posted by: drindl | April 27, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

37th @1:03 -- I have never expressed an opinion about borders and immigration or illegal immigrants. It isn't an issue I am paying a lot of attention to so I don't get into the argument. This would be a practice we would all like to see from you. If you do not understand the topic, if you have not studied the topic then

STAY OFF THE TOPIC.

Sometimes your posts are fine, but mostly your ideas are

FOOLISH

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Your arguments are based on

IGNORANCE

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Your writing is

PATHETIC

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Posted by: margaretmeyers | April 27, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Republicans are going to lose seats this November. I'm really looking forward to it. No matter how much 37th types his garbage over and over again, it's not going to change the reality. People are PISSED. Go talk to anyone who is paying attention. Anyone.

Posted by: DDAWD | April 27, 2010 1:47 PM | Report abuse

"In the cases about police stops of cars - the road blocks - the Courts ruled it Constitutional to stop cars randomly, or at set intervals and ask everyone for their papers - or ask once every certain amount of cars."

At Fixed Checkpoints, not random roving patrols, and of cars which were for the purpose of identifying drivers who would be charged with smuggling. The case found:

"It is agreed that checkpoint stops are "seizures" within the meaning of the Fourth Amendment. The defendants contend primarily that the routine stopping of vehicles at a checkpoint is invalid because Brignoni-Ponce must be read as proscribing any stops in the absence of reasonable suspicion.....Routine checkpoint stops do not intrude similarly on the motoring public. First, the potential interference with legitimate traffic is minimal. Motorists using these highways are not taken by surprise, as they know, or may obtain knowledge of, the location of the checkpoints, and will not be stopped elsewhere. Second, checkpoint operations both appear to and actually involve less discretionary enforcement activity. The regularized manner in which established checkpoints are operated is visible evidence, reassuring to law-abiding motorists, that the stops are duly authorized and believed to serve the public interest. The location of a fixed checkpoint is not chosen by officers in the field, but by officials responsible for making overall decisions as to the most effective allocation of limited enforcement resources. We may assume that such officials will be unlikely to locate a checkpoint where it bears arbitrarily or oppressively on motorists as a class. And since field officers may stop only those cars passing the checkpoint, there is less room for abusive or harassing stops of individuals than there was in the case of roving patrol stops. Moreover, a claim that a particular exercise of discretion in locating or operating a checkpoint is unreasonable is subject to post-stop judicial review."

Big difference.

My next question, do conservatives favor or oppose a national ID system, I can't keep track anymore...

Posted by: kreuz_missile | April 27, 2010 1:47 PM | Report abuse

kreuz_missile

Harry Reid is trying to keep these stupid votes going - he isn't negotiating in GOOD FAITH - CAN YOU SEE THAT THE ACTIONS OF THE DEMOCRATS THIS WEEK ARE FRAUD AGAINST OBAMA'S CAMPAIGN COMMITMENTS ??

And Obama is doing nothing to stop it.

The American People see right through it.


You really think your lies are fooling people ???

The American People are already alerted to the fact that Obama and the democrats are liars - THAT IS YOUR PROBLEM, NOT OURS. SO CONTINUE TO LIE. YOU SEE TO BE UPSET THAT NO ONE BELIEVES YOUR LIES ANYMORE.

And if you don't agree with me, you are a racist.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 27, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

It's hilarious to see the practically all liberal Democrap Socialist commenters on Fix here go into hissy-fits every time someone tells the truth of what's going on, and about Obama.
The fact is that Obama IS a racist and Communist, has always been a racist and Communist (just check his record), is governing exactly like a Communist, and is now doing what all Communists's do, nationalizing all private industry and re-distributing all wealth a la Karl Marx's and Saul Alinsky's books "The Communist Manufesto" and "Rules for Radicals".
Since the Democrap Party is following down Obama's path to turn our country into a Communist Police State, and going along with everything this Lenin-, Mao- Castro-, and Chavez--like clone is forcing on the American people, calling the Democrap Party America's Democrap SOCIALIST Party is just calling them exactly what they in fact are. While they still try to cloak themselves in the Democrat mantel to con the American people, they in fact have morphed into America's Communist Party, they just hate to be told the truth. I'm just the guy that tells the Obama--worshipping crowd here that the Emperor's new clothes are a sham, and he's actually naked. They just hate that.

Posted by: armpeg | April 27, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse

"ALSO, HARRY REID VOTED NO OR THE BILL WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN BLOCKED."

Somebody can't count, either. Reid changed his vote to no after the motion failed so that he has the ability to bring it up for another vote later. It's basic parliamentary procedure. Who is spouting lies now?

Posted by: kreuz_missile | April 27, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

"Buffet wants to exempt existing derivatives only not those going forward. Sounds reasonable but will go no where with Nelson's history of carveouts

Posted by: leichtman1"

Ah, ok. I suppose it makes sense for existing trades. Not so sure about trades going forward. It makes more sense to have some cash on hand for these derivatives trades. At the very least, it would limit the amount of trades done.

Posted by: DDAWD | April 27, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

kreuz_missile


You are wrong -


It is that simple - PLEASE DON'T COME ON HERE AND TALK ABOUT SOMETHING WHICH YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND OR KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT.

PLEASE do not advertise your low intelligence and complete lack of knowledge.

In the cases about police stops of cars - the road blocks - the Courts ruled it Constitutional to stop cars randomly, or at set intervals and ask everyone for their papers - or ask once every certain amount of cars.

No probable cause or suspicious test need apply if THE METHOD IS APPLIED EQUALLY TO EVERYONE.

So you are wrong -

go off and start lying about something else, you fool.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 27, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse

"4 times the AMOUNT OF PROPERTY TAXES.


YES, IT IS THE ENVIRONMENTALISTS WHO SUNK HARRISBURG PA."

The problem isn't the article, it's that the environmentalists are and were AGAINST the incinerator....

http://www.stoptheburn.com/

"On June 18th, 2003, the Harrisburg incinerator finally closed, ending the 30 year operation of the nation's oldest trash incinerator and the largest known single source of dioxin air pollution since the 1994 closure of the Columbus, Ohio incinerator.

Unfortunately, the Harrisburg Authority and the Mayor are intent on building a new incinerator in its place, rather than pursue recycling and waste reduction as a cleaner, financially-sound, job-producing alternative. On December 31st, 2002, Harrisburg City Council passed Mayor Reed's 2003 budget, a budget with a $6 million deficit that needs to be balanced by the end of the year. Reed and his Harrisburg Authority hoped to plug this budget hole by having the City Countil vote to guarantee a $125 million bond for the Authority to build a new incinerator. In return for putting more Harrisburg taxpayer money on the line to cover the Authority's bad credit rating, the Authority would kick back the money needed to balance the City's budget. Unfortunately, on November 5th, 2003, the City Council agreed to back that bond."

Posted by: kreuz_missile | April 27, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

drindl


What are you doing there - MAKING A LIST OF THE LIES ????

Sorry, but the American People ARE NOT FOOLED.

Sorry, everyone KNOWS the Republicans are negotiating.

ALSO, HARRY REID VOTED NO OR THE BILL WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN BLOCKED.

Ha ha haa haaaa haaaaaa

Take your lies elsewhere.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 27, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Change begins from the bottom, not from the top. If the people had wanted change more than slogans- they would have been the parade that found it's leader- rather than following along in a cult-of-personality that said very little about what it was going to do. Thus the truly unambitious policies (even if the repugs call them "socialist" these policies are Band Aids for the real porblems)and the inability to win anything but the election where the charismatic leader is running against the old man.

Americans need to get off their butts and figure out what they want and make it happen rather than the fickle changing back and forth for who ever is the "coolest" guy running in an election. If we push hard enough, leadership will do what we ask them to do (See Roosevelt, FD and Johnson, LB)

Posted by: NYClefty | April 27, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Yesterday the Republican Party had a clear choice ... respect the wishes of an overwhelming majority of the American people or to kowtow to Wall Street. And from coast-to-coast, headlines reflected that choice loud and clear:

* The Los Angeles Times:

Republican senators block debate on finance bill

* The New York Times:

GOP Blocks Debate on Financial Oversight Bill

* MSNBC:

GOP blocks financial reform bill

* The Boston Globe:

Republicans reject advancing financial regulations bill

* USA Today:

GOP blocks Senate action on financial overhaul

* CBS News:

Republicans Block Debate on Financial Reform Bill

* Market Watch:

Republicans block bank-reform bill

* The San Francisco Chronicle:

Financial overhaul bill debate blocked by GOP

* Business Week:

Republican Rejection of Finance Bill May Open Party To Attacks

Posted by: drindl | April 27, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

shrink2

People dont care about the 11,000 Dow - people care about JOBs


You are somehow trying to make the point that the Dow is better, therefore the economy is better, therefore Obama is the greatest thing ever.

Um, no, none of that is even close to being true.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 27, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

"I said, the way around the "racial profiling" objection is to ask EVERYONE for their papers - that would pass the Constitutional test."

I would think that forcing people to carry around papers to be randomely searched by government officials fails the 4th Amendment prohibition of being secure in their persons from unreasonable searches. I also think that the states passing such laws fails under Art 1 Sec 8 which gives the Feds sole authority on naturalization and immigration law as well as the 14th amendment's prohibition on states passing laws infringing the privledges of citizens, and I think that a federal law that mirrors such a state law would certainly qualify as overreach given your theory of limited federal government. So no, I don't think it would pass a Constitutional test.

Posted by: kreuz_missile | April 27, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Uncle Joe


You say I am lying - and yet Bloomberg says this - Are you calling Bloomberg News Serviec a liar too ?

bankruptcy may offer Harrisburg relief from $68 million in debt-service payments this year tied to a waste-to-energy incinerator project. Martin- Roberts opposes a bankruptcy filing.

Harrisburg, the capital of Pennsylvania, the sixth-most populous U.S. state, has guaranteed payments on $282 million in bonds on the incinerator, run by the Harrisburg Authority. The payments on the bonds and on a working-capital loan this year add up to four times the amount the city collects in property taxes each year, budget documents show.


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4 times the AMOUNT OF PROPERTY TAXES.

YES, IT IS THE ENVIRONMENTALISTS WHO SUNK HARRISBURG PA.

SURE SOUNDS LIKE THE CAP AND TRADE BILL.

You get elected to do the best for the country, NOT try to destroy the country for some stupid agenda WHICH DOESNT WORK.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 27, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

It was a real nail-biter watching the 11,000 floor hold.

If it doesn't, who knows where this latest sovereign debt crisis will take the world's recovery.

Remember when the Euro was rising, the dollar falling and some Republicans here were warning of wheelbarrows full of dollars for a sandwich, the Euro being adopted as the world's currency for oil transactions, etc?

Posted by: shrink2 | April 27, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

ddawd

When you know you are wrong, you throw out the FALSE CHARGES OF RACISM


What is wrong with you?

NONE of you are making any sense.

All I can say is this:

your Obama has made a mess of things for you, and all you people can do is act like a bunch of crybabies.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 27, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

37th, you love lying & distorting facts. Harrisburg, PA is not bankrupt because of some 'pie in the sky' greenie initiative. The city has been in decline for 30 years & has a whole host of issues with bad governance. Comparing the situation there to Cap & Trade is pure BS, but that's pretty much your stock in trade.

Here's what AP says about the incinerator:

"In the 1980s and 1990s, the facility routinely violated state and federal environmental laws. In addition to the dioxin emissions, it created an 80-foot ash heap dubbed "Mount Ashmore" that sent flakes drifting into nearby neighborhoods.

It could never burn enough trash or charge enough for the service to pay off maintenance costs, critics say. Meanwhile, city officials piled tens of millions of dollars in debt onto the incinerator in the 1990s to pay for other city debts and projects and to keep it running.

When new federal air regulations took effect a decade ago, the city was faced with two expensive options: Shutting down the incinerator or retrofitting it.

City council voted 6-1 to back a $125 million overhaul in hopes that a new, bigger incinerator could pay off all the debt.

The project quickly went awry — the price of steel had skyrocketed while the contractor and city officials blamed each other for delays — and costs ballooned to about $180 million."

Posted by: Uncle_Joe | April 27, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

margaretmeyers

I didn't say that about the Senators


Dont put words in my mouth


And don't twist things around


That makes you nothing more then a liar

I said, the way around the "racial profiling" objection is to ask EVERYONE for their papers - that would pass the Constitutional test.

YOU do not like that because you are being deceptive - you would rather have OPEN BORDERS - AND ALLOW ANYONE INTO THE COUNTRY WITH NO ENFORCEMENT OF IMMIGRATION LAWS.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 27, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

I'm sure he can get an internship under Chris C. The son he hopes his son will be. Makes sense. Chris C is the only guy who seems to appreciate 37th's home spun brand of old fashioned racism.

Posted by: DDAWD | April 27, 2010 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Buffet wants to exempt existing derivatives only not those going forward. Sounds reasonable but will go no where with Nelson's history of carveouts

Posted by: leichtman1 | April 27, 2010 12:34 PM | Report abuse

All this survey proves is that younger people are INCREASINGLY voting Democratic, and will continue to do so, as the R party becomes more fossilized and irrelevant.

Posted by: drindl | April 27, 2010 12:34 PM | Report abuse

"Democrap Socialists "

This guy's brain is squeaky clean -- gets washed every day.

Posted by: drindl | April 27, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

what's he going to get a job doing, margaret?

there's not much call for sitting around whining all day.

Posted by: drindl | April 27, 2010 12:23 PM | Report abuse

STOP OBAMA FROM DESTROYING THIS ECONOMY.

Posted by: 37thand0street | April 27, 2010 11:31 AM (I squeezed out some air because 37th's contents really settle during shipping).


I can just see 37th in his Mom's basement, running around with his arms in the air
squeeling like the Muppets do. They are usually as misinformed as 37th. Obama inherited the BAD economy. He is turning it around into a GOOD economy.

Repeat this and calm down. In another year or two you'll have a job and be out of the basement, too.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | April 27, 2010 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Uh, oh, not many people understand the relationship between other countries' debt crisis* and our own economic recovery, but we may be enrolled in a crash course.

*Greece, Spain, Argentina, Venezuela and so on

Posted by: shrink2 | April 27, 2010 12:01 PM | Report abuse

"Democrap Socialists...Democrap Socialist...rabid liberal Democrap Socialists...dumb...tribal member...racial solidarity...lunatic fringe racist white--hating and America--hating groups...'Black Liberation Front'...Communist Party USA...'The Weather Underground'...'Nation of Islam'...black version of the KKK...Democrap Socialist...black racists...Communist agenda...Democrap Socialists...Democrap Socialists...Democrap Socialists...Socialist Communist Police State...Democrap Socialists."

Who says the Republicans are the Doom and Gloom party? They're full of great ideas and positive thinking!

Posted by: Blarg | April 27, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

"Anyway - let me just call your attention to Harrisburg, PA - a misguided environmental program has put the city on the BRINK of bankruptcy."

The odd thing...just as Obamacare's birth came in the writings of the conservative Heritage Foundation in their reaction to Hillarycare in the 1990's, Obama's economic policies largely come from old conservative writngs as well. Cap and Trade, now derided as a massive tax and regulatory position, was first proposed as an alternative to regulation by Hoover Institution fellow Terry Andersen in "Free Market Environmentalism" back in 1991 as emissions trading. Which, as you can see by the reviews, was then derided by liberals as putting too much faith in the markets when they would prefer a regulatory approach:

http://www.amazon.com/Free-Market-Environmentalism-Terry-Anderson/dp/0312235038/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1272382788&sr=8-1

Posted by: kreuz_missile | April 27, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

The Gallup poll re. the voting pattern of Americans in the last presidential election and the tilt to Barack Obama and the Democrap Socialists then, and away from them now, shouldn't surprise anyone.

Young voters tend to vote Democrap Socialist for several reasons.
1-They've been brainwashed by their teachers, professors, and administrators in the Academe environment, who are practically all rabid liberal Democrap Socialists and make no bones about expressing their politics in the classrooms of America brainwashing their captive students.
2-Being young and dumb re. realpolitik they believe in a utopia of world brotherhood where everyone will live in peace and brotherhood, if only we hold hands, dance around the old campfire, and sing Kum-by-ya, as we all love one another. Only when they get older do they learn that that's a pipe dream (like FDR once said: 'You don't have a heart if you're not a liberal until age 30, and you've got no brains if you're still one after').

Black voters voted for their tribal member Obama only because of racial solidarity by about 97%, even though Obama had no experience running so much as a Hot Dog stand, and had a long history of associations and friendships with lunatic fringe racist white--hating and America--hating groups like James Combs 'Black Liberation Front', Frank Marshall Davis's CPUSA (Communist Party USA), Bill Ayers's terrorist gang 'The Weather Underground', Louis Farrakhan's 'Nation of Islam', and Jerimiah Wright's 'Trinity UFCC' (which was/is nothing more than a black version of the KKK).
Obama and the Democrap Socialist need not fear losing these black racists in the midterm election--or in 2012 for that matter--no matter how bad things get with their Communist agenda since these voters vote for skin color exclusively.

The majority of Independent voters voted for Obama and the Democrap Socialists because they wanted change and Obama and the Democrap Socialists conned them into believing that they would make things better. Now though, they're turning away from them in big numbers because they've come to the realization that what Obama and the Democrap Socialists are in fact doing is trying to change our capitalist Representative Republican form of government, into a Socialist Communist Police State, and they dont like it.

The midterm elections will be fun when Comrade Obama and the Democrap Socialists will get their clock's cleaned, and we real Americans take back our country.

Posted by: armpeg | April 27, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703465204575208030785525128.html

On the Warren Buffet deal. Basically exempting the requirement of cash-on-hand for derivatives deals. Leichtman, you seem to think this is a good idea?

Posted by: DDAWD | April 27, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Here in Pennsylvania Rick Santorum is a joke--he couldn't even win his home state in a presidential race.

Posted by: writinron | April 27, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

"37:

I found an important video about racism that I want you to study:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zs_rXxi0zhM

After watching it, please report back what you learned.

Posted by: Bondosan"

Hahahaha, this would only work if 37th was a bit selective in his hatred of minorities. But he hates anyone who is not white.

Posted by: DDAWD | April 27, 2010 11:38 AM | Report abuse

If they want young people to vote, they need to make it easier to do so. What about voting via iphone or on facebook? If that's too radical then at least make it possible to go to any polling place, any time during the 24-hour day. Why no one has taken these steps is baffling to me. Big missed opportunity by the Democrats if your numbers are correct.

Posted by: pxl4 | April 27, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

"Or why don't you address the actual problem - OBAMA IS A FRAUD TO HIS CENTRAL CAMPAIGN THEMES."

Hope and Change - Check
Health Care Reform as top priority - Check
Workign for bipartisanship even after pissing off his entire base - Check

Not seeing the issue.

"The country has TO GET RID OF OBAMA'S TAXES."

Hmm, a few weeks ago, the Republicans were so upset that 47% of the population wasn' even paying income taxes. 98% of Americans have seen their taxes cut under Obama (a good chunk of that stimulus that accounts for the deficit WAS tax cuts - remember? Another bipartisan compromise). Which new taxes has he passed that are going to destroy the economy?

Posted by: kreuz_missile | April 27, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

kruezmissile, leichtman, bsimon, shrink, ddawd


The whole crew is OUT today - trying to insist that the OBAMA FANTASY WORLD IS REAL.

It is unbelievable.

Anyway - let me just call your attention to Harrisburg, PA - a misguided environmental program has put the city on the BRINK of bankruptcy.

Think about cap-and-trade.

The thing with these environmental schemes is that they need laws and regulations to get them into force - once it becomes apparent that they proposed solutions DO NOT WORK, there is no easy way to make adjustments.

The losses and the misspent funds in these environmental programs just build up and build up.

It is PRACTICALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO CONVINCE AN ENVIRONMENTALIST THAT THEIR PROGRAM IS ECONOMICALLY UNVIABLE. They will double-down and make everyone pay two or three times the orginal estimates just to try to prove that they are right.


An environmenatalist is convinced that spending an UNLIMITED AMOUNT OF MONEY is essential to saving the planet.

Harrisburg PA can't get out of the bad decision they made on a waste-to-energy project - the project isn't covering the revenue and cost projections - and not Harrisburg has to pay.


They are thinking about going bankrupt.

Cap-and-trade is going to do in the same direction.

STOP OBAMA FROM DESTROYING THIS ECONOMY.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 27, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

"DDAWD thought I addressed your question. Nelson wants the derivative exemption for Buffet. Good public policy but once again tone deaf politics by Nelson.

kreuz_missile a reasonable blast from the past, good to hear from ya.

Posted by: leichtman1"

Yeah, you did address it, but I have no idea what "derivative exemption from Buffet" means :-)

Posted by: DDAWD | April 27, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Let's turn this headline around and say the Republicans have an elderly voter problem. Here in Pennsylvania the GOP has lost 108,000 voters in the last 8 years. Looks to me like the GOP can't enroll new members faster than their old members are dying.

37th sets a new bar for idiocy. Yesterday he wanted every police officer in Arizona to ask every pedestrian for their "papers." Today he wants one Senator to be able to block any legislation. Yesterday's logic circle jerk about partisanship is only exceded by today's logic circle jerk on BI-partisanship. Slow down and save something for tomorrow.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | April 27, 2010 11:18 AM | Report abuse

Let's turn this headline around and say the Republicans have an elderly voter problem. Here in Pennsylvania the GOP has lost 108,000 voters in the last 8 years. Looks to me like the GOP can't enroll new members faster than their old members are dying.

37th sets a new bar for idiocy. Yesterday he wanted every police officer in Arizona to ask every pedestrian for their "papers." Today he wants one Senator to be able to block any legislation. Yesterday's logic circle jerk about partisanship is only exceded by today's logic circle jerk on BI-partisanship. Slow down and save something for tomorrow.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | April 27, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

kreuz_missile


You are not making points - you are talking gibberish actually - why don't you stick to a topic ???


Or why don't you address the actual problem - OBAMA IS A FRAUD TO HIS CENTRAL CAMPAIGN THEMES.


You are just talking jibberish right now - a mish-mash.


Your points make no sense, they are not related to the topics.

The country has TO GET RID OF OBAMA'S TAXES. OBAMA'S TAXES ARE GOING TO DRAG DOWN HIRING AND CHOKE OFF THE ECONOMIC RECOVERY. OUR ONLY CHANCE IS TO GET RID OF OBAMA AND GET SOMEONE IN THERE WHO CAN DO THE JOB.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 27, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

actually Obama praised Reagan in his debates during the '08 primaries. As Ds many of us were not all that pleased with that shoutout to Reagan but that is now water under the bridge and that strategy now looks to be brilliant.

Posted by: leichtman1 | April 27, 2010 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Obama is following Reagan's playbook, just from the other side (even to the extent that their poll numbers are tracking precisely). I fully expect that to be the case.

"I think the budget deficit is what stands between us, is a large part of what has stood and will be standing between us and a depression with a capital D."

That quote? Not from the Obama administration, but from business economist Albert Wojnilower, as quoted in Barrons, November 8, 1982.

Posted by: kreuz_missile | April 27, 2010 11:05 AM | Report abuse

"By your logic, if Democrats had won 99 seats in the US Senate, that one Republican left would get a veto over every piece of legislation."
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Uh, yeah, good point, but logic has never really been the basis of an argument by 37andO.

Posted by: orgbluspider | April 27, 2010 11:03 AM | Report abuse

"Turn the Dems into the 'City on the Hill' party that's talking about a better tomorrow." Yes, thats right, the winning ticket declares Morning in America and these days, only one political party understands that.

Posted by: shrink2 | April 27, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

"Turn the Dems into the 'City on the Hill' party that's talking about a better tomorrow. Make the Repubs run against that"


shrink and I came to that exact same conclusion here weeks ago. A Morning In America like theme and the GOP the mourning in America party. Optimism vs Cynicism.

that previous post really got under the skin of conservatives here; touche.

Posted by: leichtman1 | April 27, 2010 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Can you imagine if any President tried to rally his or her troops and said, I'm calling on all White people, Asians, old people, and those of European descent to get out and vote?

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In other words, a typical Tea Party rally.

Posted by: JakeD3 | April 27, 2010 10:44 AM | Report abuse

the socialiast Ds who have overseen a 90% increase in the DOW; what socialist policies.

How about Gov Palin's redistribution of energy profits to Alaskans. What would we call her redistribution, capitalism?

Hopefully the DNC is not couting on a high turnout by the 18-28 year old voters. Seniors and near seniors are historically the most reliable voters. Rubio is pushing to increase the eligibility age for SS and Medicare, curious if the national GOP will adopt that policy in this election cycle. Those are the voters the DNC should be targeting. Forget the
18-28 year olds, they were a one time phenomenon. Many of us warned the DNC of that
aberration and they didn't listen, thus a Senator Scott Brown.

Posted by: leichtman1 | April 27, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

"Obama was ELECTED TO BE BIPARTISAN - that was the central theme of his campaign - this meant that Obama would negotiate out policies which would be CENTRIST AND AGREED UPON."

No, he vowed to reach agross the aisle to strive for bipartisan cosensus. He delayed passage of Healthcare at great harm to his own party fighting for Snowe, Collins, and other Republicans to come onboard.

His higher priority was Health Care, always was, and was always stated. By your logic, if Democrats had won 99 seats in the US Senate, that one Republican left would get a veto over every piece of legislation. Sorry. We gave up the Public Option and virtually every other core part of the Democratic plans, and still all for nothing. Sorry, he reached out and you guys were unwilling to play. That's not a failure on his part.

And on Iraq, Republican Congressmen Dana Rohrabacher and Tom McClintock, with Conservative darling Grover Norquist...

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ROHRABACHER: Well, now that we know that it cost a trillion dollars and all of these years and all of these lives and all of this blood, uh, I don’t know many…

NORQUIST: Looking for a number. Two-thirds? One-third?

ROHRABACHER: I, I can’t. All I can say is the people, everybody I know thinks it was a mistake to go in now.

NORQUIST: That’s 100 percent. (to McClintock) Of Republicans in Congress, who would agree with the general analysis here that it was a mistake and/or we should go in.

MCCLINTOCK: I think everyone would agree Iraq was a mistake.

NORQUIST: Two hundred percents. Ok, we’re going to average these.

MCCLINTOCK: And, you know, again, I think virtually everyone would agree going into Afghanistan the way we did was a mistake. How many share my, my cynicism over this idea of a resolution of force, which I can’t find anywhere in the Constitution. And how many believe that in those rare cases where we go in, we put all of our resources behind our soldiers, I would say certainly more than half of the Republican caucus probably believe that.

http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2010/03/18/gop-congressmen-most-republicans-now-think-iraq-war-was-a-mistake/

Posted by: kreuz_missile | April 27, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse

AndyR3 writes
"I don't think the poll on young people is that suprising. First off the election is 7 months away and the democrats have just started to rally the base. If I am a democratic operative, I don't start to engage the young people until this summer or so. By then students are back in school, and primed to be motivated. Motivating voters is important about two months before an election, and if you do it too early their energy will burnout. You can see this now with the Tea Party movement, which was so last Thursday."


The kids won't turn out for midterms. That's just not how kids minds work. When you're part of a nationwide movement, its much easier to get caught up in the electoral frenzy than when you have a bunch of congresspeople in 435 different districts. The enthusiasm won't be there, the youth vote won't turn out, like for most elections. Instead the Dems need to get past the GOP obfuscation and misinformation about things like health care reform, financial reform & the stimulus package & campaign on those ideas. The need to hammer on the Repubs that voted against those bills & turn around trying to take credit for local projects (paid for by the stimulus package) or subsidizing the Medicare donut hole (HCR), or reining in Wall Street (pending FinReg). Hammer the Repubs for being the Doom and Gloom party. Turn the Dems into the 'City on the Hill' party that's talking about a better tomorrow. Make the Repubs run against that.

Posted by: bsimon1 | April 27, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Even young Democrat's are realizing that they were lied to by the Progressive, Socialist, Marxist, Radical, Liberal, Democrats and are also distrustful of the Biased Liberal Media!

The change that was sold to them is not what they got after they voted for Obama!

Even with the dumbed down education they are getting they see that we are going down the wrong path!

Posted by: Acornisascam | April 27, 2010 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Even young Democrat's are realizing that they were lied to by the Progressive, Socialist, Marxist, Radical, Liberal, Democrats and are also distrustful of the Biased Liberal Media!

The change that was sold to them is not what they got after they voted for Obama!

Even with the dumbed down education they are getting they see that we are going down the wrong path!

Posted by: Acornisascam | April 27, 2010 10:20 AM | Report abuse

Even young Democrat's are realizing that they were lied to by the Progressive, Socialist, Marxist, Radical, Liberal, Democrats and are also distrustful of the Biased Liberal Media!

The change that was sold to them is not what they got after they voted for Obama!

Even with the dumbed down education they are getting they see that we are going down the wrong path!

Posted by: Acornisascam | April 27, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse

Even young Democrat's are realizing that they were lied to by the Progressive, Socialist, Marxist, Radical, Liberal, Democrats and are also distrustful of the Biased Liberal Media!

The change that was sold to them is not what they got after they voted for Obama!

Even with the dumbed down education they are getting they see that we are going down the wrong path!

Posted by: Acornisascam | April 27, 2010 10:18 AM | Report abuse

They'll probably be too busy out looking for work.

Posted by: hared | April 27, 2010 10:17 AM | Report abuse

kreuz_missile

Your comment at 9:14


We all know that Bush signed the agreement with the Iraqi government to pull the troops out.


Sort of blunts Obama running in there with white flag ???

The democratic platform was to DECLARE THE IRAQI WAR LOST AND GET OUT.


Bush's plan was to Surge, Win and Get Out.

Call Harry Reid on that one.

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Obama was ELECTED TO BE BIPARTISAN - that was the central theme of his campaign - this meant that Obama would negotiate out policies which would be CENTRIST AND AGREED UPON.

It doesnt mean pick off one or two Republicans, it doesnt mean take a far-left plan and "throw in" a few Republican ideas. And it doesn't mean going to a few meetings, declaring that bipartisanship doesn't work, and then "pivoting far to the left."

This is the CENTRAL FRAUD OF OBAMA.

Obama was elected to be BIPARTISAN FOR THE ENTIRE FOUR YEAR TERM - not a few days.

No one wants to hear you little issues - claiming that THE CENTRAL FRAUD OF OBAMA DIDN'T HAPPEN.

It did.


The American People are on to Obama.

AND if you don't agree with me, you are a racist.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 27, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse

OUTRAGEOUS!

Can you imagine if any President tried to rally his or her troops and said, I'm calling on all White people, Asians, old people, and those of European descent to get out and vote?

Isn't anyone in the media going to call this racist President on his rallying cry to African Americans, Hispanics and younger voters to get out and vote.

I have now come to realize that the people in the left wing media are not journalists. They are propagandists and a disgrace to the journalistic profession. Is it any wonder that the MSNBC, NBC, CNN ratings and the NYT subscriber base is falling precipitously?

Grow up and get your priorities straight. Start acting like journalists.

Posted by: mvpeach | April 27, 2010 10:15 AM | Report abuse

"MEANWHILE, McCaskill KNEW PERFECTLY WELL the Republicans were negotiating out a bipartisan deal - and it was the DEMOCRATS who were playing poltics with the vote that day."

Negotiating behind closed doors rather than on the floor of the Senate. Republicans were against it before they were for it.

Posted by: kreuz_missile | April 27, 2010 10:15 AM | Report abuse

Its the economy.
Look at the markets' total lack of interest in Wall Street "reform", the political atmospherics, the poses being struck, the lines delivered. As Ford makes a profit in the US with no bailout, 3M exceeds all expectations...folks, the jobs are coming, together with the housing numbers. Then comes deficit reduction and then another Democratic two term President will have saved Republican voters from themselves. Still no time for celebration, there is much work to do.

Posted by: shrink2 | April 27, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse

"Obama is sinking faster and faster - and the opposition to him around the country has solidified."

The crazies have come out of the woodwork in force, sure. Probably helpful to Obama in the long term, though. Meanwhile, his approval has been fairly constant for the past six months at between 48 and 51. Not bad for what is historically the most turbulent time in a Presidency and set up nicely for re-election in 2012 regardless of what happens in the midterms.

Meanwhile, he has passed HCR, made significant strides on education, will shortly pass a financial reform bill, is winding down the war in Iraq and beginning the process of transitioning in Afghanistan, all while preventing the economy from sliding into another Great Depression. he's not getting credit on that one yet, but with all leading indicators being up (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=126106188) I'd be careful about being too perversely optomistic that the voters will be as sour in six months. Republicans are at their crest right now (and may hover here for a month or two), and they've peaked early.

Posted by: kreuz_missile | April 27, 2010 10:08 AM | Report abuse

Bush-Cheney- spawned human rights atrocities now Obams's (and Dems') political albatross -- unless POTUS moves swiftly to restore the rule of law.

HOMELAND-RUN FUSION CENTERS SILENTLY ATTACK, IMPAIR 'TARGETED' AMERICANS WITH CELL TOWER MICROWAVE/RADIO FREQUENCY WEAPON SYSTEM: VETERAN JOURNO

• Precision-targeted nationwide "directed energy weapon" system camouflaged by cell towers in what amounts to a "slow-kill" genocide of those deemed to be "dissidents" or undesirables, says journalist Vic Livingston.

• "Targets" also victimized by financial sabotage, community-based "stalking" harassment, home intrusions, vandalism by police-enabled organized vigilante teams that operate under de facto protection of Homeland, military, intel agencies and commands.

• Are political "enemies" among the targets?

• Victims' plea: "MR. OBAMA, TEAR DOWN THOSE HOMELAND CELLULAR TORTURE TOWERS."

The exclusive story that mainstream media cannot or will not report:

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/u-s-silently-tortures-americans-cell-tower-microwaves
http://nowpublic.com/world/gestapo-usa-govt-funded-vigilante-network-terrorizes-america
OR NowPublic.com/scrivener RE: "Obama: Take Down Fusion Center Gestapo, Fire Secret Service Boss"

Posted by: scrivener50 | April 27, 2010 10:07 AM | Report abuse

blarg: Good point. Yes, apathy is big part of it.

joehorn: You're referring to the same effect that caused headlines like "Dewey Defeats Truman" when mostly well-off Republican voters had telephones. It's quite possible that telephone poll-takers undercount cell-phone-only voters, but they're aware of the issue and hopefully have learned to take that into account by now.

Posted by: Gallenod | April 27, 2010 10:01 AM | Report abuse

kreuz_missile


Let me guess - DDAWD and broadwayjoe called you in - because they have been completely defeated in the past few weeks.

The problem is not ddawd or broadwayjoe, it is Obama


Obama is sinking faster and faster - and the opposition to him around the country has solidified.


What do you want to do - fight it out ??

STATE YOUR INTENTIONS kreuz_missile

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 27, 2010 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Today berry is spinning and lying about our debt. He pretends like it's not his fault. Still lying about everything.

Posted by: Moonbat | April 27, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse

37:

I found an important video about racism that I want you to study:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zs_rXxi0zhM

After watching it, please report back what you learned.

Posted by: Bondosan | April 27, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse

so every item CC talks about is based on polls. He bases his "analyses" on polls with approximately 1500 people, and that's supposed to be an accurate description of 130,000,000 voters? He completely disreagards any thoughts as to how young people might be pissed off at the GOP for the treatment they have shown the Prez. His analyses is completely based on polls and his own GOP bent. and even though he has warned the corner about double spacing and flooding, the corner still does it... Bloggers like this are so tied to 'conventional wisdom' and typical results of a mid term, not getting the concept that CW isn't worth spit anymore, and elections will never be the same, with minorities knowing the power of their vote, after all, their vote elected the Prez that the GOP continually disrespect and insult. Polls don't factor in the anger on the Dems side, all we ever hear about is the loud angry TP/Gopers.

Posted by: katem1 | April 27, 2010 9:54 AM | Report abuse

Item #1

As an 18-29 year old, I am often curious as to how pollsters account for this age group. If we truly do account for 17-18% of the electorate in a given presidential election year, that would mean we could potentially sway elections and thus polls. However, a growing number of 18-29 year olds are using cell phones instead of land lines, meaning they cannot be polled. Does this mean that all polls these days are actually skewed because they do not properly account for this demographic? Should we be adding a couple of points to the left side of every poll to account for this imbalance?

Posted by: joehorn | April 27, 2010 9:50 AM | Report abuse

Claire McCaskill - the unbelievable sound-bite of the day


She tried to get up in the Senate - and she ALMOST CHOKED - trying to explain that the Republicans were playing politics with the wall st bill, and how horrible that was.

MEANWHILE, McCaskill KNEW PERFECTLY WELL the Republicans were negotiating out a bipartisan deal - and it was the DEMOCRATS who were playing poltics with the vote that day.

So McCaskill KNEW PERFECTLY WELL she was ACTUALLY CONDEMNING OBAMA AND HARRY REID.

It really was sickening seeing McCaskill go on and on - ACTUALLY TRYING TO CONVINCE HERSELF AS SHE CHOKED ON HER OWN WORDS.

That set of comments on the Senate floor was a NATIONAL DISGRACE.

I'm sure she walked out of there, shocked at her own conduct - which does make her better than the others there -


However, I would guess that she also wondered who was listening to her - not that many people - but the people who WERE listening to her KNEW HOW RIDICULOUS her statement was.

This is the problem with Obama - his hypocrisy is an INFECTION SPREADING LIKE A FUNGUS THROUGH THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.


Go ahead, try to defend him.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 27, 2010 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Is it just me or are there others out there who sense that the author of this column has a decided bent in favor of republicans. Sometimes I have to wonder if Chris is aware that there really are two parties he seems so obsessed with always writing glowing columns about GOP prospects.

Look. I am a realist and I don't mind being given a realistic assessment. But, when Cris devotes all of this print to Dan Coats and only mentions Brad Ellsworth as though he is merely incidental to the "real" story, you get the impression that he wants voters to think that there is only one "serious" candidate in the race and it is Dan Coats.

Posted by: jaxas70 | April 27, 2010 9:42 AM | Report abuse

Item #5 Santorum really is going no where - he might as well be going to New Hampshire to try to repair the Old Man On In The Mountain.


Santorum just doesn't have any mo-jo

Santorum also has a Guilliani problem - he doesn't play well in the early primary states and his only chance is to try to make a play in a later state.


Whatever - forget it.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 27, 2010 9:41 AM | Report abuse

This blog has gone to the dogs. Make that bats.

Why do dems need to rebuild? Easy, berry is not what he promised. He is a fraud. Now he is begging all the different minorities to drink of the Kool aid again.

Another failure of spineless Harry again. Reflects on berry badly as a feckless weakling.

Posted by: Moonbat | April 27, 2010 9:37 AM | Report abuse

DDAWD thought I addressed your question. Nelson wants the derivative exemption for Buffet. Good public policy but once again tone deaf politics by Nelson.

kreuz_missile a reasonable blast from the past, good to hear from ya.

Posted by: leichtman1 | April 27, 2010 9:26 AM | Report abuse

"The candidates of the party I usually support aren't doing everything I want them to, so I'm going to punish them by not showing up to vote. That'll show 'em."

Gallenod, I don't think it's a conscious decision to punish the Democrats. It's more like "The Democrats don't do anything to help me, and neither do the Republicans. So why bother voting?" It's not spite, it's apathy.

Posted by: Blarg | April 27, 2010 9:25 AM | Report abuse

Item # 3


I like Lansing Mayor Virg Bernero for Michigan Govenor.


Not because I think he is going to win - or because I have looked at the race closely and think he can pull it out.


I like Virg Bernero because he almost lost it in an interview a few months ago - He really cares about the problems in the state - and he obviously wants to overcome the obstacles in the state.

Posted by: 37thand0street | April 27, 2010 9:25 AM | Report abuse

I'd actually like if the Republican Party returned to its 19th century roots; unfortunately, the modern GOP's roots are the 19th century Democrats.

Posted by: kreuz_missile | April 27, 2010 9:21 AM | Report abuse

kreuz -- the Nelson vote needs to be well covered by the press. Sen. Nelson has so many principles he will/won't vote for HCR and he supports/opposes important financial industry reform. Looks to me like his vote relies on "what I get."

Posted by: margaretmeyers | April 27, 2010 9:21 AM | Report abuse

Barbour/Santorum in 2012
Bringing the GOP back to its 19th Century roots.

rebel flags, cessesssion, profiling, repealing the machine gun ban, nullification, purging our history books of Thomas Jefferson... the real face of the 21st century GOP.

What's next,internment camps from the Show Me Your Papers Party?

Posted by: leichtman1 | April 27, 2010 9:19 AM | Report abuse


Item # 3 - Geoffrey Fieger might be a great attorney with high-profile clients and multiple television appearances.


But please don't forget that NONE of that compares to his real claim to fame which towers above anything else he has ever done.

Geoffrey Fieger's BROTHER was the lead signer for THE KNACK - and MY SHARONA IS ICONIC - da da da don don don da da da dad da daaa MYYYYY SHARRRRONA

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 27, 2010 9:16 AM | Report abuse

"Obama sort of left out of his appeal - his platform - Is he going to give those voters his platform of 2008 - OR his far-left agenda with all the taxes ?"

Let's see his platform:

"High priorities: health care for all, ending the war in Iraq, social security"

"Energy/Environmental Issues: Obama pledges to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, with a goal of 80 percent by 2050, and make the U.S. a leader in the effort to combat climate change by leading a new international global warming partnership. Supports implementing a cap-and-trade program to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. Pledges to invest $150 billion over the next 10 years to develop and implement “climate-friendly energy supplies, protect our existing manufacturing base and create millions of new jobs.” Pledges to double federal clean energy research spending. Supports efforts to reduce dependence on foreign oil, and to reduce oil consumption by 35 percent by 2030. Would require that 25 percent of electricitycome from renewable sources by 2025."

"Taxes and Budget issues: Obama supports repeal of tax cuts for upper income earners to pay for health care. Opposes repeal of the estate tax."

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/national/politics/2008/bios/view.bg?articleid=1063110

Yeah, he's changed so much from what he campaigned on and won significantly on....

Posted by: kreuz_missile | April 27, 2010 9:14 AM | Report abuse


Item #2 - This is becoming a problem with putting young people into higher positions early in their careers - OFTEN the initial reasoning or rational for giving them the position disappears.


Obama was given a chance in 2008 because he had such a great platform - bipartisanhips and post-racial, transparency.


However, all that has disappeared, so what does Obama have left ? An inexerienced guy who doesn't know what he is doing turns into a guy with a little bit of exerience who still doesn't know what he is doing ???


Alexi Giannoulias ran for State Treasurer of Illinois at the age of 29 .... because he had a family BANK - and at an early age he was given an opportunity to play a significant role in running that bank.


NOW the bank is gone, and the intial rational for giving Giannoulias his job is Gone.

Nice guy - sure someone who would be fun to play basketball with - but in the end he is just a 33 year old kid - just like every other 33 year old kids out there -


Might as well go into any bar and pick someone out there to go to the US Senate - because that is what you are getting.


Without the bank, and all the fundraising from his family, there is nothing that sets Giannoulias apart from anyone else.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 27, 2010 9:12 AM | Report abuse

Not buying Cook Report's movement on Illinois; The bank story has been a hot issue there for several months now, and while it has eroded Giannoulias' standing, there has been no corresponding bump in support for Kirk who remains stuck around 40%, basically the Republican base in Illinois. His best showing, outside an internal poll, was a 46% Ras poll from Feb. http://www.pollster.com/polls/il/10-il-sen-ge-kvg.php . I think the strategy Giannoulias is taking, if nothing else may allow him to pivot to putting the story behind him. If Kirk can't come up with anything over the next six months besides 'but his family's bank failed!' I don't see him expanding his camp much.


And Nelson, he wants an exemption for Berkshire Hathaway, worth about $8 billion to the state of Nebraska.

Posted by: kreuz_missile | April 27, 2010 9:08 AM | Report abuse

Oops, I'm dropping words again. Should have been: "...represent your interests even less..."

Need more coffee...

Posted by: Gallenod | April 27, 2010 9:07 AM | Report abuse

On the theory that people are more likely to complain than compliment, the large voter turnout for Obama in 2008 may have been driven in large part by a chance to vote against the Bush administration rather than to vote for Obama.

Just as different segments of the electorate are now motivated to vote against Obama.

I've always found the idea that a rational person would think: "The candidates of the party I usually support aren't doing everything I want them to, so I'm going to punish them by not showing up to vote. That'll show 'em."

Yes, and it will also help put someone who will represent your interests even into office. But you showed 'em.

Posted by: Gallenod | April 27, 2010 9:05 AM | Report abuse

Item 1 - Obama's coalition


Obama sort of left out of his appeal - his platform - Is he going to give those voters his platform of 2008 - OR his far-left agenda with all the taxes ?

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 27, 2010 9:04 AM | Report abuse

leichtman (or anyone else), what exactly is Ben Nelson looking for?

Posted by: DDAWD | April 27, 2010 8:54 AM | Report abuse

Go Rick Santorum GO!!!
you are the true heart of the GOP~

Posted by: newagent99 | April 27, 2010 8:50 AM | Report abuse

brigade how is Gionoullias's family bank's failure make him a crook? He cut ties to that bank 4 years ago. yea Illinois and Fla and have serious D party problems but I have yet to read anything that shows Gionoullias did anything wrong. Just more R piling on with nothing to offer other than to side with Enron and GS type policies.

Why no discussion of the Tx Governor's race?

Incidentally Ben Nelson is a creep who does not appreciate that including an exemption for Nebraska's Buffet would draw the exact same criticism and comparisons as the Nebraska demanded carveout in HC. Insanity is Nelson doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. While Buffet has a good market point about wanting to be exempted from previously written derivatives that likely should be in the banking reform bill, we all know precisely how McConnell would respond if Ds gave in to Nelson's and Buffet's demands. If Buffet expects that exemption he will have to get it from a R Senator.

"Berkshire had asked that previously written contracts be exempted from new rules on collateral, said the Democratic aide, who asked not to be identified because the talks are private"

its too bad that sometimes good economic and market policies have to be demagogued by political gamesmanship. imho D Senators should only accept Buffet's exemption when there are at least 1-2 R co sponsors to that amendment, otherwise Reid was correct to not go there.

Posted by: leichtman1 | April 27, 2010 8:50 AM | Report abuse

Just a quick note Michigan is not the Wolverine State; it is the Great Lakes State, Fieger rocks!

Posted by: ywhynot | April 27, 2010 8:49 AM | Report abuse

Broadway Joe complaining about today's Morning Fix. Check.

;-)

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | April 27, 2010 8:45 AM | Report abuse

I don't think the poll on young people is that suprising. First off the election is 7 months away and the democrats have just started to rally the base. If I am a democratic operative, I don't start to engage the young people until this summer or so. By then students are back in school, and primed to be motivated. Motivating voters is important about two months before an election, and if you do it too early their energy will burnout. You can see this now with the Tea Party movement, which was so last Thursday.

#2-I have been thinking about the problems that Alexi Giannoulias is facing and I am starting to think that he will weather the storm. In most states the problem with his bank would be a killer, but Illinois is used to shady politicians. I could see voters saying, "Yeah I know about the bank thing, but who cares. It ain't like he was an f#$%ing golden boy or anything." Not to mention Dems out number Repubs by like 3 to 1 in the Illini state.

Santorum is a JOKE. He won't do squat in 2012, so please stop writing stories about him. Then again its better than having to read about T-Paw again (BTW, worst nickname ever)

Posted by: AndyR3 | April 27, 2010 8:25 AM | Report abuse

Last spring a Washington Post-ABC News poll found that more Americans favor pot legalization than favor the job that congress is doing.

46% favored pot legalization.

45% favor the job the Democrats were doing.

30% favored the job the GOP was doing.

Americans have a more favorable opinion of marijuana legalization than they have of the congress that prohibits pot legalization.

Posted by: aahpat | April 27, 2010 8:13 AM | Report abuse

Obama is alienating a lot of those enthusiastic young people from 2008. He ran on a campaign that IMPLIED a sensitivity for drug policy reform. But since election he has done little more than pay lip service to some of the fringe issues of drug policy reform while escalating the drug war generally.

About the vote.

In 2008 Barack Obama won Massachusetts with 62% of the vote.

In that same election marijuana legalization was on the Massachusetts ballot and won with 65% of the vote.

A year later, the Democrats, in the special election to fill liberal icon Ted Kennedy's seat, put on the ballot the state attorney general who led the fight AGAINST the 65% majority of pot reform voters. She lost 52-47%.

Drug policy reform voters, liberals and progressives stayed home in that race and the Republican won.

During Obama's campaign for president he used a lot of innuendo that he was supportive of drug policy reform and Harm Reduction public health programs. since then he has needed to be dragged, kicking and screaming, just to stop the DEA from raiding medical cannabis facilities. A massive public pressure campaign on the internet finally swayed him to act. And he acted then in a legally ambiguous way.

All of the other drug policy reform related changes since 2008 have come from the congress. But the public are not getting the garbled messages from the major media. Congress actions are ignored while Obama gets all the credit. But Obama is not on the ballot.

I firmly believe that whichever party were to take up and pass, before the election H.R. 2943 "To eliminate most Federal penalties for possession of marijuana for personal use.." would win this congressional election hands down. And gain a lock on the congress for the foreseeable future.

Posted by: aahpat | April 27, 2010 8:07 AM | Report abuse

Well, let me post a poll.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/behind-the-numbers/2010/04/most_back_stricter_financial_r.html

Two thirds of the country want financial reform.

52% of the country trusts Obama to handle it. 35% think the Republicans can do it.

Cmon, Obama, punish the Republicans for their filibuster.

Obama has already gone after McConnell and he's laying into the Republicans nice and early this time. You think Republicans are going to be happy with six months of being blamed for blocking financial reform?

Posted by: DDAWD | April 27, 2010 8:03 AM | Report abuse

Obama has already racially divided our country by playing the race card asking for Black and Latino votes. I guess anyone who isn't one of these -- Native American, Eastern and Middle Eastern, and Caucasian, etc. are not acceptable.

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Posted by: aragoran | April 27, 2010 7:48 AM | Report abuse

Five (5) Checks.

Dems in trouble false narrative. Check.

Semiweekly totally free Charlie Cook Report ad/mention. (From Post ad dept.: Please see me.) Check.

No positive mention of the 44th President of the United States. Check.

Rick Santorum shout-out. Santorum? Check.

Shout-out to GOP lobbyist Dan Coats, "the anti-Obama." Check.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | April 27, 2010 7:29 AM | Report abuse

Part of the problem is that Obama and the Dems focused on health care for so long, an issue that most young people aren't necessarily enthusiastic about - especially when it will punish youn people with mandated insurance.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: parkerfl1 | April 27, 2010 7:25 AM | Report abuse

37, wake up! The blog is all yours now. Enjoy.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | April 27, 2010 7:21 AM | Report abuse

I'd be curious as to the fraction of the youth vote in 2002 and 2006 compared to presidential years.

There's a certain elegance in Dr. Death's attorney running for governor in Michigan. Seems to be what happened to the state's economy.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | April 27, 2010 7:20 AM | Report abuse

"Looking back at exit polls from the last three presidential races, it's clear that the story is not how young people comprised larger and larger segments of the electorate but rather how much more Democratic they voted between 2000 and 2008."
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And that's a Democrat young voter problem?
Huh? What extreme spin. Every party should have such a "problem."

Posted by: broadwayjoe | April 27, 2010 7:18 AM | Report abuse

Some groups are fickle. No doubt about it. Maybe they really did think Obama was the Messiah. When he turned out to be just another president doing a job, they were disappointed.

Looks like the Dems in Illinois are just not willing to settle for anything less than a full-fledged crook in office.

Oh, well, off to the tin mines.

Posted by: Brigade | April 27, 2010 6:41 AM | Report abuse

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/26/AR2010042601969.html?hpid=topnews

I'd have to say that Republicans blocking finreg debate is almost as important as that weird Pennsylvania guy running for President.

Figure I'd get it in before 37th starts flooding the place again.

Posted by: DDAWD | April 27, 2010 6:40 AM | Report abuse

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