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The electability argument and the California Senate race

1.One week from the Republican primary fight for the right take on California Sen. Barbara Boxer (D), a fight over electability has broken out.

Former Rep. Tom Campbell, who has run twice unsuccessfully for Senate seized on a Los Angeles Times/University of Southern California poll that showed him leading Boxer by seven -- while former HP executive Carly Fiorina (R) trailed the Democratic incumbent by six.

"I can win if I have the resources to communicate in these final 9 days," Campbell wrote in a blog post aimed at narrowing the self-funding Fiorina's financial edge. "If I don't, we will not win -- and Boxer will breathe a huge sigh of relief."

Fiorina's campaign quickly struck back with a memo to reporters arguing that it is Campbell, not their candidate, who would jeopardize Republican chances against Boxer.

The evidence? Campbell's failed Senate bids in 1992 and 2000 (and the fact that he switched from the gubernatorial race to the Senate contest earlier this year) as well as his connections to Sami Al-Arian, a former college professor who has voiced deeply anti-Israel sentiments publicly.

The Fiorina campaign even floated the language of a potential Democratic attack ad; It read: "Tom Campbell took money from terrorists/financial supporters of terrorists. He knew of their views but refused to give the money back. Then he tried to lie about his record."

The debate over whether Campbell or Fiorina has a better chance at beating Boxer may well be moot given that the LA Times/USC survey showed Fiorina with a 38 percent to 23 percent edge over Campbell -- an edge attributable to her flight of television ads financed by millions in personal donations. (Conservative state Assemblyman Chuck DeVore took 16 percent.)

The poll also shows that whoever wins the GOP nod could find themselves in a surprisingly close race with Boxer. Just one in three (34 percent) of those surveyed said they would probably or definitely vote to re-elect Boxer while 49 percent said they would either probably or definitely vote for someone else.

And, while Boxer led Fiorina in a hypothetical general election race, the fact that she sits at only 44 percent of the vote despite having served in the Senate since 1992 should be somewhat troubling to her campaign advisers.

Whether California becomes a real race in the fall or not could have major consequences on the fall election. Not only is the contest playing out on the country's largest stage but it would be the eleventh Democratic-held seat in play -- one more than the number of pickups Republicans would need to win back the Senate.

2. Former Rep. Ed Case (D-Hawaii) has opted not to run for the seat in the general election a week after he and state Senate President Colleen Hanabusa (D) split the Democratic vote and handed the seat to Rep. Charles Djou (R-Hawaii) in a special election.

The good news for Democrats in the Case decision is that are now likely to avoid a difficult and costly primary - the latest in the nation, in fact. The bad news is that the candidate they are left with is the one national party leaders -- if not their state counterparts -- regarded as the weaker of the two candidates.

Hanabusa had the support of the state's two senators -- Daniel Inouye and Daniel Akaka but party leaders in Washington didn't see a path to victory for her since she struggled to win over moderate Democrats and independents. While the White House and the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee made it quite clear they preferred Case, neither entity wound up officially weighing in at all -- a move that effectively ceded the seat to Djou for the next six months.

The November general election, of course, provides much different dynamics. There won't be two Democrats on the ballot, and the electorate will be different too. Regardless of what party leaders thought of Hanabusa before, she will now likely be the only Democrat on the ballot in a district where President Barack Obama won 70 percent of the vote in 2008.

3.Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is getting a boost today from First Lady Michelle Obama, who will be joining the Nevada Democrat at a pair of events in the Silver State today.

The First Lady makes her first stop in Reno, where she will deliver the keynote address at a women's summit hosted by Reid. Then she heads to Las Vegas for an event to kick off her Let's Move! initiative.

While the events mark a rare appearance by the First Lady with a 2010 candidate, both events are non-political; Michelle Obama has not done any political appearances on behalf of candidates since taking office, according to a White House official.

Still, the opportunity to make two joint appearances with the popular First Lady is good news for Reid, who faces a tough re-election battle this fall.

A May Associated Press-Gfk poll showed Michelle Obama's favorability rating sky high at 70 percent, a full 13 points higher than her husband's. By contrast, Reid is viewed favorably by only 37 percent of Nevada voters, according to a Mason-Dixon poll conducted last week.

Reid needs all the help he can get as polling has consistently shown him struggling against all of his potential Republican opponents. Former Nevada state Assemblywoman Sharron Angle, former state party chairwoman Sue Lowden and businessman Danny Tarkanian (among others) face off in next week's GOP primary.

4. Just as the controversy over Connecticut Attorney General Richard Blumenthal's (D) misstatements about his service in Vietnam has died down somewhat, it has now come to light that Rep. Mark Kirk (R), who is running for the Senate in Illinois, has also made an incorrect claim about a military award he received.

In a story by the Post's Jeff Smith, Kirk acknowledged on his website that, "upon a recent review of my records, I found that an award listed in my official biography was misidentified." The supposed award -- "Navy Intelligence Officer of the Year," according to Kirk -- was, in fact, given to a unit Kirk was working with.

Kirk was far more aggressive in an e-mail (and web video) to supporters on the subject. After noting the correction to military record, Kirk wrote: "Because of that record [Giannoulias] has made a strategic decision to attack my military service record. I understand politics is a tough business -- but this attack orchestrated by Alexi Giannoulias is a disgrace."

Kirk himself misstated the award during a 2002 House committee hearing and has misrepresented the award at several points in recent years -- mostly in written form, however.

The award controversy has finally allowed state Treasurer Alexi Giannoulias' (D) campaign play some offense. Dealing with the collapse of his family's bank, Giannoulias has been in a defensive pose for much of the race, going back to his primary win in February.

"I think that he's got an honorable record," Giannoulias said of Kirk in an interview with the Chicago Tribune. "I don't know why he feels the need to embellish the record and not tell the truth."

Most neutral observers have regarded Kirk as a slight favorite in the race due to Giannoulias' bank problem. But, it remains to be seen how long questions about Kirk's military record linger and how damaging they are to the North Shore Congressman.

5. Doña Ana County District Attorney Susana Martinez pulled in an impressive $721,000 for her GOP gubernatorial bid during the past three weeks but nearly two-thirds of that amount was contributed by a donor who funded the 2004 "Swift Boat" ad campaign against Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry.

Texas home builder Bob Perry (and his wife) donated $450,000 to Martinez who appears poised to win the Republican nod in today's gubernatorial primary in New Mexico. Perry has donated to a number of 2010 candidates including Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R) (no relation). He's also given $2.5 million to the RGA.

Martinez campaign manager Adam Deguire defended the donation. "Susana appreciates the support she has received from Bob and Doylene Perry, both of whom have been very supportive in the past of Republicans in New Mexico, including the state party," he said.

Martinez has been riding a wave of momentum following her strong showing in the March GOP pre-primary convention where she won with 47 percent of the delegate vote in a five-candidate field that included the son of legendary former New Mexico Sen. Pete Domenici.

But it was Martinez's ads hammering former state party chairman Allen Weh on immigration as well as Martinez's endorsement by former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin (R) last month that have been the main forces behind her recent surge.

Polls show a competitive race between Lt. Gov. Diane Denish and Martinez in the fall. Denish faces no Democratic primary competition today.

With Aaron Blake and Felicia Sonmez

By Chris Cillizza  |  June 1, 2010; 6:00 AM ET
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Comments

Non Political?
Gag me with a spoon!

Too bad Michelle didn't take the ILLEGALS she, Obama and Reid love so much with her to Reid's Casa Del Illeglas and leave them there.....

Posted by: TexRancher | June 3, 2010 7:44 AM | Report abuse

Isn't that sweet: Michelle and Reid, two America hating, illegal loving liberals hugging at his Casa Del Illeglas in Nevada!

Posted by: TexRancher | June 2, 2010 7:40 AM | Report abuse

@12Bar: the photo I sent you was from over a month ago when they were still working on the frame. You should see it now.

Someone made an offer to buy it a week ago .. not making this up ... 2.5 times what we've put into it. And it's not even done.

Brigade is not only provincial and parochial, he's crude and vulgar. What kind of sicko would think up "boiled centipedes?" That's like a fifth grader trying to gross out his mom and dad. URL the food there is fantastic.

When have you seen him successfully make a point? Same snark as all the rest. Sneering and snotty and claiming victory. Just PgUp.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 2, 2010 12:43 AM | Report abuse

Haven't seen a photo of your house, it is far from a hut.

Should have said, Having seen a photo of your house, it is far from a hut.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 2, 2010 12:06 AM | Report abuse

@noa,

I'm amazed that Brigade doesn't know more about the world than to think that you are going to live in a hut. Haven't seen a photo of your house, it is far from a hut. I suppose he thinks that American Indians live in teepees. Shows a certain parochialism.

In addition, I don't know why you retiring to Vietnam is some kind of insult. Americans retire to all sorts of places--Mexico, Costa Rica come to mind. My uncle lives in Manila. A lot of American Chinese move back to China. So what's the big deal? Nammie, nammie land? Is that some insult? I'll bet Brigade is Vietnam era, or why would Vietnam be such a big deal.

Don't know what to say. Brigade can be coherent, then he goes off into Insult Land. He is the only one who understands the insults.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 2, 2010 12:04 AM | Report abuse

But what the heck, his $26 monthly pension will allow him to live in what passes for palatial luxury in Nammie Nammie Land---a bamboo hut that only leaks when it rains and a daily dietary allotment of rice and boiled centipede.

==

Hey 12Bar, still think Brigade is a notch above the other Cletii?

I'd say anyone who can think up sick sh*t like this is deranged.  It's zouk, of course.  Nobody else is as twisted.  Ugh.  

Posted by: Noacoler | June 1, 2010 11:25 PM | Report abuse

I still miss the delusions about retiring early, long past 55

about buying property, where foreigners can't.

about the wonders of communism, when only capitalism actually pays the bills

about air conditioned gyms

about inflation rates over 20%, where they prefer gold to the worthless communist money

about plummeting proeprty values

about sky high poverty and death due to meager economics and education and health care

about undrinkable water

about ripping off the locals

about the glories of riding busses

dancing around the young boy trade that drives the entire project

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 1, 2010 7:35 PM | Report abuse

I think if we allow for a three word BINGO, because of the parsimony of the Ped intellect, we could still play:

P

Attacking other posters while claiming to ignore them


E


Everyone but me and those who think in lockstep with me are idiots or mental cases


???????????????????????????

three independent ideas may be too much of a stretch for the idiot PED.


All of her posts are about how other contrary posters should be ignored and that everyone should stop posting about them. Kind of like drivl spending all day every day ranting about prolific posters.


Not that anyone expected anything brilliant out of these nuts.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 1, 2010 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Noacoler's response to 12Bar, who wrote:

'I was also bemoaning the lack of decent discussion between the liberals and conservatives.'

==

"I used to say the same thing, about seventeen forums ago. "Oh how I wish we had some conservative posters who could debate instead of bait," I would say, until the pun got stale. I no longer bother."

LOL. Noacoler's head's been handed to him
in every debate in which he's engaged a conservative, which is why he rarely engages one.
Idiotic posts like this one are the rule---
Noacoler's version of the Fred C. Dobb's line: 'I can debate twice as good as a mug like you if I wanna but I don't wanna, see mug?'

"Having the exact same experience on so many forums ... mailing lists, message boards, blogs .. I decided that the phenomenon isn't incidental, it's systemic."

Which is Noacoler's way of saying he gets his clock cleaned every time.

His confidence in the Obama administration's plans for the country are such that he himself is planning to kick back in Vietnam, which ranks right between Outer Mongolia and the hubs of hell on the list of desirable retirement destinations.
But what the heck, his $26 monthly pension will allow him to live in what passes for palatial luxury in Nammie Nammie Land---a bamboo hut that only leaks when it rains and a daily dietary allotment of rice and boiled centipede.

Posted by: Brigade | June 1, 2010 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Of course the Iraq invasion wan't for oil. Get real.

Everyone knows that it was simpluy offensive that a majority Shiite nation wasn't a client state of Iran, so the US of A set things right. Now a formerly harmless secular dictatorship is allied with Dinner Jacket, and order has been restored in the world.

Now wasn't that worth a few trillion bucks and few thousand troops?

Posted by: Noacoler | June 1, 2010 7:22 PM | Report abuse

I'm impressed. Dodecaphonic. VERY impressed. Of course, what do I know, drunkard that I am.

==

Don't be. It's a term you'll get in any basic class in music theory. I've gone well past that though .. the New Vienna School are three of my favorite composers and I've read tons of their scores figuring out the tone-row and what they were doing with it. Even Ginastera's Guitar Sonata has a dodec movement that I analyzed down to the last note.

If you've never heard the Berg Lulu Suite run don't walk to Amazon and get the Abbado recording.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 1, 2010 7:18 PM | Report abuse

drooling half-wits still believe the Cheney war-for-oil fantasy, but Drindl never disappoints.

how about a drooling eighth wit?

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 1, 2010 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Is there anything else we can add to this horrendous problem in terms of ironies and conflicts?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 1, 2010 1:33 PM
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It's ironic that deep water drilling was supposed to keep the coast safer; a blowout in shallow water would have been capped long ago.

Posted by: Brigade | June 1, 2010 7:10 PM | Report abuse

Can you imagine the furor if a Republican did EXACTLY the same? Is Al Gore still around? I guess he's only defending the environment when it's PROFITABLE.

Posted by: thecannula | June 1, 2010 12:15 PM
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Gore uses the environment as a political tool and a means to cook up schemes for self-enrichment. We have not heard from him because he is a man without principles.

Posted by: Brigade | June 1, 2010 7:07 PM | Report abuse

Drindl wrote,
"I mean, we did have Cheney and his secret meetings, of course, but then all we got was an Interior dept. full of oil lobbyists who set the failed policies that led to this disaster.

And, oh yeah, a war to secure drilling rights for oil companies in Iraq..."
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Even most of the liberals on the blog have conceded that only drooling half-wits still believe the Cheney war-for-oil fantasy, but Drindl never disappoints.

Even though Obama got the lion's share of the BP campaign money and his employees issued the permits and waivers that culminated in the current disaster, you've still got idiots trying to blame Cheney.
MSNBC reported that one waiver of the rules was issued after five minutes' deliberation.

Posted by: Brigade | June 1, 2010 7:05 PM | Report abuse

The democrats have to be honest here - the OIL SPILL IN THE GULF IS DIRECTLY RELATED TO OBAMA COZING UP TO SPECIAL INTERESTS.

Obama took almost a MILLION dollars from BP

Obama ALLOWED THE SITUATION AT THE MINERALS MANAGEMENT SERVICE TO CONTINUE - IN THE FAVOR OF THE SPECIAL INTERESTS.

OBAMA CAN'T SAY HE DIDN'T KNOW - IT WAS WELL KNOWN AND PRINTED ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THE WASHINGTON POST.

IT IS ABOUT TIME THAT OBAMA NOT DOING WHAT HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO DO - DIRECTLY LED TO THIS OIL SPILL. OBAMA IS RESPONSIBLE.

.

Posted by: 37thand0street | June 1, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

ok, as far as I'm concerned, you're telling the truth. I know you could have googled all that, but I'll believe you. And I know a lot of politically backward docs, so you're not a stretch. Pretty cool invention.

By the way, 12 bar blues is a music term. Wiki it.

Posted by: DDAWD | June 1, 2010 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Ddawd- save your money if that's true- I was one too: BUT for nothing you get the Primary examiner on my patent- Randall L. Green, the Asst Examiner- KM Reiche, and the fields of search- 604/51, 55, 239, 264, 604/272.... go snooping- I'm not giving AA boy my address!

Posted by: thecannula | June 1, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

12Bar wrote:

I was also bemoaning the lack of decent discussion between the liberals and conservatives.

==

I used to say the same thing, about seventeen forums ago. "Oh how I wish we had some conservative posters who could debate instead of bait," I would say, until the pun got stale. I no longer bother.

Having the exact same experience on so many forums ... mailing lists, message boards, blogs .. I decided that the phenomenon isn't incidental, it's systemic. My teenage observation that conservative always have someone to hate has never been seriously challenged, and I've concluded that the nasty, derisive, mocking tenor of conservative posters is reflective of conservatism as a whole.

There is one (1) encouraging person on the Weiger blog, one KATE1230, but that's like one a a million. The JakeD troll hates her too, for not answering his "questions."

Posted by: Noacoler | June 1, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

@12Bar: he said 12-step, as in remedial counseling, not 12-tone, as in dodecaphonic.
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I'm impressed. Dodecaphonic. VERY impressed. Of course, what do I know, drunkard that I am. Bwahahaha!!!!!!!

Re: reason. He's not here much, is he? I'll have to pay particular attention to him. Original or not, we've only got so many conservatives to talk to. We can't afford to overlook any of their possible virtues.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 1, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

tick...tock...tick...tock

Going out for a while. Possibly one of these possibilities:

Going to AA
Going to the bar
Inventing the pyramid (patent pending)

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 1, 2010 3:59 PM | Report abuse

@12Bar: he said 12-step, as in remedial counseling, not 12-tone, as in dodecaphonic.

Why are people talking to 37th's new alter-ego? He created another account to get some responses he wasn't getting under his primary. It's the same triple-spaces snark trash.

12Bar, have to disagree with you on Brigade. His worthy posts are far too dilute to bother with. The only conservative here who comes close is reason5 and he doesn't come close enough because while he's more civil than the mentals, he shows zero originality.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 1, 2010 3:59 PM | Report abuse

"Heh, it always comes down to guns for these people."

Because that's what they have instead of brains.

Posted by: drindl | June 1, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Is this slow motion poker? Usually, when one player calls, the other player puts down his cards.

Or is this called "folding"?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 1, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

"But there was a recent Politico piece on all the liberal bloggers the WaPo is hiring and Weigel was lumped in with them. It's Politico, so liberal is kind of a meaningless term."

That's politico logic. Weigel is covering the rightwingers, so he's a 'liberal.'

Poor cannula, no proof and so much impotent bitterness.

Posted by: drindl | June 1, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

I'll make a $100 bet. I'm a poor grad student and I've got no problem with admitting it. $2k is too much for me.

Posted by: DDAWD | June 1, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

The Federal Govt should force BP to pay directly -

We don't need a massive federal program

Posted by: 37thand0street | June 1, 2010 3:19 PM
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Yup. That's what I have you down for: 1 vote for having BP pay.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 1, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

cannula wrote: Isn't it 12STEPBlues?
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Bwahahaha!!!!!

@noa, from tonic to chromatic, all in one step. Thought you'd enjoy this.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 1, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

12Step- don't speak for the loser of the bet, I didn't hear an agreement-

Michael Moore is the voice of the people when he can use someone else's misery to further is own career, and Al Gore is the big environmentalist who is making tens of millions in Green industry-

Where are they now in this environmental disaster? You hear from them-nope 'cause it's a Democratic administration holding the bag!

Posted by: thecannula | June 1, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

12Bar

The Federal Govt should force BP to pay directly -

We don't need a massive federal program

Posted by: 37thand0street | June 1, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

@ddawd,

He's going to give his patent #. Good for you, cannula.

What does Michael Moore and Al Gore's daughter have to do with cannula's patent?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 1, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Isn't it 12STEPBlues?

BWAhahahahahaha-in your parlance!

Posted by: thecannula | June 1, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

noacoler wrote: 12Bar, you engaged him on the trading thing but you need to recognize that was a one-off, not generalizable to him being capable of candid discussion.
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Well, you know me, the cup is always half full. Bwahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was also bemoaning the lack of decent discussion between the liberals and conservatives. The only person who can hold a reasoned discussion, and keep his mind on it, is Brigade. Instead, we have 37th who slides in and out of reality. Zouk et al, as you say. Armpeg peeking out of his KKK hood.

And now, the fake cannula--who won't tell us who he is although he's a famous inventor of the cannula. That's like a guy getting on here and saying, hey I started Microsoft, but I don't want to give you my name.

But my initials are... shhhhhhhh..bg. don't tell anyone.

Even our Stanford lawyer told us his name, address, phone number, law license #, yacht name, and slip #, class year at Stanford, and I don't even remember it all. Probably gave us his Army serial number. Guess he just prouder than our famous, well respected inventor of the cannula.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 1, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse


Ddawd- I'll bet you $2000 on Paypal- which I'll donate to the Research fund at my hospital when I collect- that when I tell you my patent #, the name of my instrument, and the company who manufactures it, you'll verify what kind of fool you are and the veracity of my claim. (and you'll have to ask Daddy for the money)

Anyone hear from Michael Moore yet? Al Gore's excused- his daughter's divorcing.

Posted by: thecannula | June 1, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

"Wiegel didn't go after Palin, he just pointed out the obvious. She's trying to parlay living next door to stalking underage kids and the reactions cut across predictable lines.

Posted by: Noacoler"

There was an editorial in Palin's hometown newspaper suggesting that she and her neighbors "remind" the reporter that they are allowed to shoot him if they perceive him to be a threat.

Heh, it always comes down to guns for these people.

Posted by: DDAWD | June 1, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

A lot of meta-posts today. A shame, because it seems like more and more of the discussion here is about other posters. We already get a lot of complete junk here, 37th and the zouks mostly.

Nobody responds to zouk except drindl and I really wish she would stop. That back and forth is tiresome and it just encourages him. We all know his shtick and don't need reminders of how shameless he is. 12Bar, you engaged him on the trading thing but you need to recognize that was a one-off, not generalizable to him being capable of candid discussion. He's mentally ill. Anyone can see that, I would prefer to just keep scrollin' past the trollin'. I don't read troll posts other than the occasional eye-catch as it scrolls past. Zouk is sickening to the soul and 37th gives me headaches.

Yeah Jake is on the Wiegel blog and nothing has changed. It's the same half-dozen posts and he seems to be angrier than before, a good half of his posts are "you answer my questions first" junk. Immature as before.

Wiegel didn't go after Palin, he just pointed out the obvious. She's trying to parlay living next door to stalking underage kids and the reactions cut across predictable lines.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 1, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

You guys are pathetic- even a lowbrow AA failure like 12Bar knows that my patent # gives you my name and the house I lived in at the time of issue- a property I still own- Sure- give me all of your parents' basement addresses, where you live, and I'll let you know who I am....

Until then zombies, keep apologizing for an inexperienced President who fooled You all into thinking he was competent. He's showing us all that he isn't and he's outsourcing the biggest environmental disaster in our history to the Brits!

Maybe he can Organize the Gulf Coast communities destroyed by the well his administartion approved and wasn't competent enough to oversee.

Posted by: thecannula | June 1, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

@ddawd,

I guess can-nula can't.

Bwahahaha!!!!!!!

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 1, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

12BB, I typically don't read the comments on Weigel's blog. I just happened to scroll down today for some reason. Weigel's blog is kind of what this blog pretends not to be.

But there was a recent Politico piece on all the liberal bloggers the WaPo is hiring and Weigel was lumped in with them. It's Politico, so liberal is kind of a meaningless term. I'm not sure how Weigel falls under that category. Because he went after Palin?

Posted by: DDAWD | June 1, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

I never saw the combat meme before -- I think that's new. Weigel's blog is decent, btw. I thought at first he would just be a shill be actually seems to report.

Posted by: drindl | June 1, 2010 2:13 PM
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Re Jake: if he was in Korea as a noncom, he could have been in combat, although I don't remember him ever saying it.

Where Jake goes, I will not follow. I find him to be particularly legalistic, which actually supports the idea that he is a lawyer. He follows the old maxim: when you don't have the facts on your side, argue the law. When you don't have the law on your side, argue the facts.

I'm just SOOOOOOOOO glad he's gone from here. I prefer sincere people.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 1, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

I never saw the combat meme before -- I think that's new. Weigel's blog is decent, btw. I thought at first he would just be a shill be actually seems to report.

Posted by: drindl | June 1, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Did Stanford lawyer ever claim to have served in combat on here? I don't remember him saying he had. He is claiming it now on Weigel's blog.

Posted by: DDAWD | June 1, 2010 2:01 PM
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Yes. Korean war vet. Noncom, as I recall. Before law school, obviously. Don't think even the Army would put a summa cum laude Stanford lawyer on the front lines.

Don't remember the combat, but I do remember the Korean vet.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 1, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

great, I think 37th just killed cannulaman

Posted by: DDAWD | June 1, 2010 1:52 PM
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Poor can-nula.

One time I was sitting in one of my 12 bars, and I sez "why, I invented the pyramid, donchaknow?"

After everyone quit laughing, I just slunk outa there. What do they know anyway? Buncha libs.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 1, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Did Stanford lawyer ever claim to have served in combat on here? I don't remember him saying he had. He is claiming it now on Weigel's blog.

Posted by: DDAWD | June 1, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Actually, our Stanford lawyer even produced photos of his yacht and the slip # where it is docked.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 1, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

great, I think 37th just killed cannulaman

Posted by: DDAWD | June 1, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Come on CANNULA. Give us your patent number. Our prior famous, summa cum laude, Stanford lawyer gave us his law license # in order to impress us. (I don't think we ever got evidence on the summa cum laude, did we?)

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 1, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Incidentally, which cannula did you invent?

Posted by: DDAWD | June 1, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

"(I said I wasn't an engineer 12Bar- I am a well respected medical inventor"

Teeheehee he's sticking to the story. ALl my med student friends are going to be thrilled to hear this one, hahaha.

Posted by: DDAWD | June 1, 2010 1:42 PM | Report abuse

@CANNULA,

So sorry. You're right--you said you are not an engineer. We won't argue with you.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 1, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

"He is capable of a nice discussion when he wants to. "

not with women, apparently.

Posted by: drindl | June 1, 2010 1:26 PM
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wrong. :))

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 1, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse

There are so many ironies and cross currents in the BP gusher story.
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Republicans have historically been for limiting the power of government, and for deregulation.

Democrats have been dragged down the same path, to some degree.

The country was under the control of two Republican oil guys for 8 years.

The oil industry contributes to both parties and candidates, so they have influence no matter who wins.

We are dependent on BP to pay AND to plug the leak, so we're stuck with "the guys we can't believe".

BP's entire market cap is probably insufficient to pay the damages.

We pay allegiance to the free market being able to solve their own problems, even when it appears they can't do so.

And, to cap it all off, BP isn't even a U.S. corporation, although I'm sure they have a spiderweb of related corporations incorporated all over the world.
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Is there anything else we can add to this horrendous problem in terms of ironies and conflicts?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 1, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

gckarche wrote:
Retiring Republican Governor Lingle was reelected with 63% of the vote 4 years ago, she could be Hawaii's first GOP US Senator.


My comment: A couple of wrong facts. First, Sen Hiram Fong was a distinguished, bright and well respected GOP Senator from Hawaii. Secondly, the economy in Hawaii declined a great deal and much of the anger is directed at Lingle. It is unlikely that she would have been re-elected had she been eligible to run for re-election.

Posted by: dcraven925 | June 1, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

"He is capable of a nice discussion when he wants to. "

not with women, apparently.

Posted by: drindl | June 1, 2010 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Al Gore on the environmental impact of the oil spill in the Gulf-

.........................................

Michael Moore on protecting the citizens in the Gulf-

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Yes, we should help them with major funding and a major change in their national leadership , first in November, then in 2 years from November-

(I said I wasn't an engineer 12Bar- I am a well respected medical inventor- WHAT pray tell are you 12Bar- and how many did you visit today already lowbrow?)

Posted by: thecannula | June 1, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

It's a bit of a disconnect, isn't it, 12Bar, when this individual says BP should pay, while his own winger party is fighting hard to protect BP and make taxpayers pay for it, hmm? Dems trying to raise the damages cap, Rs fighting it, naturally.

The turnaround on this -- from being such huge defenders of oil companies to now claiming they are villains is enough to give you whiplash, ain't it?


"On Wednesday, Fox Business Network anchor Liz Claman interviewed John Williams, executive director of the Southern Shrimper Alliance, whose industry is threatened with extinction by the millions of gallons of dispersed oil contaminating the Gulf Coast. Claman noted that “we can’t trust BP”:

I think one thing we do know is that we can’t trust BP with information at this point. "


This righteous anger at big oil is a remarkable turnaround for the networks that lied about the oil spills caused by Hurricane Katrina, deny the threat of oil pollution to the planet, and shilled for offshore drilling during the “Drill, Baby, Drill” summer of 2008."

Posted by: drindl | June 1, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Zouk doesn't come here to talk, 12Bar -- doesn't possess the necessary social skills -- he comes here to anonymously rant and insult. That's ALL his life is about. Like the 'inventor' of the cannula -- man, that dude must be OLD, huh?

Posted by: drindl | June 1, 2010 12:57 PM
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In all fairness, Zouk and I had a very nice conversation about trading. We shared ideas and techniques and we laughed about how we've both gotten burned sometimes.

I wish we could discuss politics in the same way, but it hasn't happened yet. But, I disagree that zouk is not capable. He is capable of a nice discussion when he wants to.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 1, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

@drindl,

I'm keeping track of conservatives reactions to a massive federal program to help the Gulf residents (especially seafood industry). So far, there is:

1 vote to help (theCANNULA)
1 vote to make BP pay (37th)
4 votes to ignore the question

Maybe I better remove the 1 vote to help, since that may be a duplicate vote.

Bwahahahaha.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 1, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Don't forget that Obama took almost a MILLION dollars from BP.

Obama just completed a year-long review of offshore drilling -

And Obama HAD TO REVIEW THE SAFETY STANDARDS AND ENVIRONMENTAL PREPAREDNESS AT THE MINERALS MANAGEMENT SERVICE.

The MMS has been an issue for years - and if OBAMA DID NOT ACT TO MAKE SURE THAT OFFICE WAS OPERATING PROPERLY, IT IS CLEARLY OBAMA'S PERSONAL FAULT.

THAT IS CLEAR - MMS WAS AN ISSUE WHICH WAS MAKING NATIONAL HEADLINES - OBAMA WAS REVIEWING IT FOR A YEAR - OBAMA IS DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS OIL SPILL.


This is far, far different from Katrina with the State and locals primarily responsible for the evacuation and the Feds had to come in behind.

THIS IS SOMETHING OBAMA WAS WORKING ON FOR A YEAR - OBAMA HAD A SPEECH - HE SAID HE KNEW BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE - UNPRECEDENTED NEW POLICY - EXPANDED OFFSHORE DRILLING.

This was Obama-hubris at its worse - and it has BLOWN UP IN HIS FACE.

AND many of Obama's other policies - like health care are - ticking time bombs - health care is a ticking DEFICIT BOMB.

.

Posted by: 37thand0street | June 1, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

If Mark Kirk thinks exposure of his politically-motivated campaign lie is a "disgrace," I'd love to hear him condemn what fellow-traveling gopers Karl Rove and Saxbee Chambliss did to Max Cleland. My guess is that Kirk wouldn't have the guts to condemn THAT character assassination of a decorated combat veteran by the goper's blasphemy machine.

And regarding the Michelle Obama/Harry Reid story: since when does a First Spouse "take office?" I'm unaware that the First Spouse appears on any ballot with the President. Silly me, I assumed only those who win an election or are appointed to office under a state's constitution for filling a vacancy actually "take office."

Posted by: ImaDem | June 1, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Zouk doesn't come here to talk, 12Bar -- doesn't possess the necessary social skills -- he comes here to anonymously rant and insult. That's ALL his life is about. Like the 'inventor' of the cannula -- man, that dude must be OLD, huh?

Posted by: drindl | June 1, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Reason - you forgot Kentucky.

Posted by: JakeD3 | June 1, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Do you boneheads even understand how utterly incompetent the Dems in power are? Are you too enamoured with the personalities on this blog to comprehend the terrible disaster that Liberals have wrought?

Discuss.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 1, 2010 12:37 PM
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Bumbling,

With all due respect, do you really think that discussions start with an insult?

What was that SNL skit, when Dan Aykroyd started his counterpoints with "Jane, you ignorant sl'ut,".

If you want to talk to me, I recommend you do not call me names first.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 1, 2010 12:44 PM | Report abuse

A particular strain of mental illness -- wonder how long before it gets its own classification?

Posted by: drindl | June 1, 2010 11:56 AM
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We'll have to ask shrink.

Creating an imaginary friend is one thing. But you notice, it's not just any old blue collar guy. It's a guy who invented the CANNULA. And just in case we missed it, he makes that his moniker.

Reminds me of people who suddenly get in touch with one of their distant relatives. It's never some illiterate peasant who lived a short and brutal life. It's always Pocahontas or Benjamin Franklin.

Bwahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm actually a long lost descendant of Queen Mary, and my inheritance was unjustly taken from my family, and that's the ONLY reason I'm not obscenely wealthy and speaking with an elite English accent as I buzz around in my Bentley.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 1, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

The resident mutual admiration society for otherwise pointless Libs today on The Fix will spend the rest of the time discussing how anyone who could even possibly dare to disagree with their absurd claims must simply be crazy.

Do you boneheads even understand how utterly incompetent the Dems in power are? Are you too enamoured with the personalities on this blog to comprehend the terrible disaster that Liberals have wrought?

Discuss.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 1, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Inventor of the cannula. That's a good one.

Posted by: DDAWD | June 1, 2010 12:23 PM
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I believe this is a quote from "the cannula":

"I am not a scientist but..."

I guess he is a scientist before he isn't a scientist...

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 1, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Abroad, the President assured us that he could restore America to the status that George W. Bush had allegedly eroded. But that promise, too, has come with a condition. In order to regain the international affection that Bush supposedly squandered, Obama has embarked on a cycle of national apology, abnegation of American exceptionalism, and appeasement of adversaries. Sixteen months after his inauguration, rather than being engulfed in the world’s embrace, America is increasingly disrespected by its enemies and estranged from its allies.

As for the transparency, bipartisanship and good-will that the President insisted he would bring with him to The White House, perhaps that’s been the biggest failure of all. From his inauguration speech on, Obama has shown an unseemly tendency to blame Republicans, particularly his predecessor, for any problems he encounters. Transparency has gone completely out the window – the final version of health care “reform” was crafted in secret by Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi.

And the President apparently continues to define “bipartisanship” as unilateral political surrender by his political opponents. One searches in vain either for compromises analogous to President Bush’s concessions on legislation like No Child Left Behind, or for gracious gestures, like Bush’s renaming of the Justice Department in honor of Bobby Kennedy. Above all, Obama seems continually surprised and indignant that the opposition party would actually, well, oppose him.

But if any good can come from the most recent Gulf Coast catastrophe, perhaps it will help President Obama better empathize with the people he governs. Perhaps now, he will understand how infuriating it is to get nothing but empty promises (or unacceptable conditions) from those who are responsible for fixing a problem – all while the gushing oil flows on, and on, and on.
by Carol Platt Liebau

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 1, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

ddawd wrote: 12BB, I wonder if zook, 37th, et. al. believe they are actually shaping public opinion through their antics.
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I've often had the same feeling. I'm on this blog to learn, to refine, to interact on a factual basis. Others (as you name) seem desperate to have someone hear their opinion. They are not necessarily factual, are not open to learning or refining their opinions. It's all about shouting and insulting.

There's only a dozen or so posters on this blog at any point in time, so the shouters are ONLY talking to us. I haven't been convinced yet by their shouting. Have you?

I think their shouting comes from impotence. Frustrated impotence, as shrink points out.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 1, 2010 12:23 PM | Report abuse

hah, man, so now we have the inventor of the cannula as an addition to our illustrious right wing presence? So smart and yet seems to have trouble distinguishing between the country Britain and a company with the word "British" in its name.

Speaking of illustrious right wingers, jaked, the guy who graduated from Stanford law at the top of his class, seems to have taken up residence at Dave Weigel's blog.

Inventor of the cannula. That's a good one.

Posted by: DDAWD | June 1, 2010 12:23 PM | Report abuse

The Cannula took his Wapo User ID from a medical instrument he patented, which is sold and used worldwide-

I have no idea who any of you are OR if YOU are all one warped mind who, like Michael Moore, Al Gore, and Bill Maher, are silent about how your chosen leader got us in this mess (oil) by approving BP's well, allowing his administration to drop the ball on oversight, and leaving the mess to the Brits!

Can you imagine the furor if a Republican did EXACTLY the same? Is Al Gore still around? I guess he's only defending the environment when it's PROFITABLE.

Posted by: thecannula | June 1, 2010 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Wow, he's frantic today, margaret!

LOL. Talks about my empty life, then posts here all day. Jeez, what a clown.

Posted by: drindl | June 1, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

much less public opinion in general, can they?

Posted by: DDAWD


I think Obimbo is managing that just fine on his own

Health care is now 70% want it revoked, his sole "accomplishment"

Berry's personal approval is down to almost 40% with 60% not happy.

Even the fawning press can't cover up this magnitude of a disaster.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 1, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Regarding #4, Blumenthal's Gore-like embellishment routine about Vietnam was never going to sink him in Connecticut. The chattering class far and wide grossly misread the impact of this. When A.B. Stoddard repeatedly went on the air and declared that Blumy was finished, it really made me wonder if there are any necessary qualifications to being a paid pundit, cuz competence sure doesn't register a good bit of the time. It's true that lying about one's military service will indeed get someone in trouble in certain parts of the country. But not in Connecticut. It's really hard to believe that pundits who are supposed to be in the know wouldn't know something as obvious as that.

Posted by: mbcnewspaper | June 1, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Look at his stuff, 12Bar -- exactly the same content and wording and sometimes even the childish spacing stuff at times. It seems par for the course for the trolls no one else wants to talk to -- they invent other aliases so they can have 'conversations' -- and also so they can pretend they're not on this board 18 hours a day.

A particular strain of mental illness -- wonder how long before it gets its own classification?

Posted by: drindl | June 1, 2010 11:56 AM | Report abuse

drindl says that cannula is the creation of the fake 37th.

poor loony drivl conflates every dissenting voice into the one terrible monster that must be stopped. It is a product of the Kos mentality - a weak mind and an empty soul.


I wonder why I never see any liberal proclaiming the successes and profound advances due to the Obama administration. Instead it is just attack, attack, attack - other posters mostly but on occasion, some out of the way Repub operative that manged to avoid paying a parking ticket on time.

Is there so little to crow about with the obviuosly inept and corrupt Obungler syndicate?

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 1, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Your story about the Hawaii congressional race left out one glaring detail. Hanabusa beat Case!!!!!!!!!! So what if the party leaders think Case is a stronger candidate? Apparently they were wrong, as has been the case in a lot of races this year. The big story is that both of Hawaii's US Senators are 86 years old. Who are their potential successors? Former governors and present members of Congress, of which there are two, Democrat Hirono and Republican Djou. Retiring Republican Governor Lingle was reelected with 63% of the vote 4 years ago, she could be Hawaii's first GOP US Senator.

Posted by: gckarcher | June 1, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

12BB, I wonder if zook, 37th, et. al. believe they are actually shaping public opinion through their antics. Do they really feel that they are successfully pinning this oil gush on Obama? Or perhaps it's just a Krauthammeresque catharsis. The guy seemed so crushed and defeated by the defeat of the Bush ideology that he has apparently devoted the next phase of his life to being bitter about it. I know the trolls are dimwits, but they can't possibly believe they are changing the minds of anyone who actually reads them, much less public opinion in general, can they?

Posted by: DDAWD | June 1, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

drindl says that cannula is the creation of the fake 37th.

Don't know about that, but maybe 37th got lonely when NO ONE would respond to him and, then bingo, along comes cannula, who will talk to 37th. And, now, 37th has a way to interact, even if it is an imaginary companion.

Bwahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 1, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

"We need to get off fossil fuels. We need to do it faster than we are. But Americans aren't mature enough to make those hard decisions, even though politicians constantly coddle us and tell us we are."


Reagan was the first Infantilization president, who talked to Americans like they were small children, perhaps because that was where he was, mentally. Bush II the same... all of his talk about 'bad guys' and 'evildoers' -- like a kindegartner. But since then, a lot of Americans, particularly on the right, have regressed to LalaLand, and are simply not capable of making ANY informed decisions.

Posted by: drindl | June 1, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Welcome back from you holiday weekend, zouk. Don't try to make up for lost time all at once.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | June 1, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

DDAWD can run his world on fairy dust. Hence the neverending support for the utterly clueless Obungler syndicate.

Berry better hurry up and find a culprit, anyone but him, to blame for this mess he created. the fingers of blame, which he forbid, are finally getting around to the bumbler in chief.

Israel attacks a freighter - who's Israel?
TN floods - what flood?
Economy in the toilet - what's money when it's other peoples?
Oil spill - there from day one, yet still oozing.
Close gitmo - there from day one
transparency - Slick willie offered a non paying slot to drop the race to someone who was not able to accept

This is going to be considered a four year experiment with peering over the abyss of liberal incompetence. We almost forgot Carter, but the memories are flooding back.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 1, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

CC, you said on your blog there are 11 US Senate seats in play that R's can potentially win. I see 12:

1. Delaware
2. Pennsylvania
3. Connecticut
4. Indiana
5. Illinois
6. North Dakota
7. Washington
8. Arkansas
9. Nevada
10. Colorodo
11. California
12. Wisconsin

That's 12. I only see one real tough one for Republicans to keep, and that's Ohio. Going to be really tough there, but Republicans should win everywhere else to keep their seats.

Posted by: reason5 | June 1, 2010 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Is it true that Dick Jones, the CEO of Omni Consumer Products (the company that ran Detroit in Robocop)now works for BP?

No?, Well it sure Is true that the biggest environmental disaster in America's History is being outsourced by our incompetent administration to a For Profit Multinational Company run by the Brits.

You just can't make this up!

Posted by: thecannula | June 1, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

"Like adopting a more reasonable and careful stance on offshore drilling and realizing it ALWAYS carries risk like this?

Posted by: drindl"

People won't stand for that. Remember, Reagan was elected on the promise that we will never be held accountable for our actions and never pay for what we consume. The risk of these spills is one of the hidden costs that Americans, as consumers, can run and hide from.

But even if the Gulf ecosystem is destroyed for a decade, that's going to be a laugh in comparison to the effects we will feel of global temperature rising five degrees.

We need to get off fossil fuels. We need to do it faster than we are. But Americans aren't mature enough to make those hard decisions, even though politicians constantly coddle us and tell us we are.

Posted by: DDAWD | June 1, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse

you are a sad case, zouk. a really sad case. how many women did you pay to talk to you this weekend?

Posted by: drindl | June 1, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Portrait of a loon:

Yeah 12, I'm 60 and this is the most deranged I have ever been in this country. I mean, during the civil rights era, I was pretty nasty, and very similar. We were very open then too about our racism.But they didn't have MSDNC news and other mass-hate propaganda outfits that legitmized their craziness, nor did they have so many, and so powerful, weapons, nor elected officials who egged them on to violence. So this is a far more dangerous time.

Posted by: drindl | May 29, 2010 2:01 PM

this is how an angry, demented kook spends its weekend. Pretty much the same as every day in her pitiful empty life.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 1, 2010 11:08 AM | Report abuse

1. California will be in play in November. It looks like it will be Whitman vs. Brown & Fiorina vs. Boxer. I don't believe Campbell is correct when he say's he's the Republican that can win. Heck, he has lost 2 races before so what should make this go around different. Campbell isn't conservative and he's an enemy of Israel. Fiorina has real money to put against Boxer and will make this a real race and could make it Republican's 11th pick up. The electibility argument should not work for Campbell, especially b/c he's already lost 2 statewide elections before.

4. Kirk seems to have once again handled this situation well, as he has his whole campaign. I like Kirk and believe he can win this Senate seat, which is a huge plus and a must for a Republican takeover in November. But it seems he's ran a perfect campaign thus far: great fundraising, staying positive and hammering the ethics of Giannoulias and gotten help by his family's bank being in the news. Things are running great for Kirk.

5. Susana Martinez has ran a great campaign and looks poised to win today's R Gov primary in New Mexico. When Pete Domenici Jr. got into the race, I expected him to do well and he has underperformed terribly. Martinez has ran circles around all of the competition and now even leads Lt. Gov. Denish in the latest Survey USA poll. Martinz will make this a race come November.

5.

Posted by: reason5 | June 1, 2010 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Wow, zouk -- what an obsession you have with me. You just rave on and on -- about a stranger. This is your life? This is your day?

And it's all projection

'the years of unemployment, the daily brainwashing from rightwing hate sites, the begging for sustinenece, the crippled sense of morality, the empty sense of purpose and being, the cognitive dissonance and general ignorance of the world in its reality - a study in mental breakdown for only the bravest professional."


Have you seen your shrink yet today?

Posted by: drindl | June 1, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse

I don't think Campbell can beat Boxer, no matter what any poll says. It's not because of the Al-Arian thing. The potential anti-semitic aspect is sexy in the chattersphere, but is mostly a non-starter (regretably) in many parts of the country (Jim Moran being a keynote example). Campbell can't beat Boxer because he's just not that great of a candidate, and because compared to Fiorina, he forfeits the one galvanizing issue that will put a Republican on top in Cali this year - being a bonafide outsider. Fiorina is, Campbell ain't. Enough said.

Fiorina has cash to compete with Boxer. With Fiorina, Boxer can't play the gender card. Fiorina has given off a confident air in her public speaking, which is a big deal in a state that's all about how one presents on stage. And she's running at a time where Cali is, in many ways, metaphorically sinking into the sea, and is running against an incumbent with no new answers, no new ideas, and no desire for a course correction. For months, The Fix has been a little out to lunch in not ranking this race higher on its periodic seismic scale. I'm not saying Boxer is dead meat. But I am saying that enough components/trends have been in place for a long enough time that to not rank this race as one to really watch smells a lot like a decision based on ingrained presuppositions rather than a serious look at how things are shaking out on the ground. And I say this as one who thinks the vaunted Republican wave isn't as potent as a number of respected politicos have been suggesting. But Cali, like Massachusetts, may be something of a special case.

Posted by: mbcnewspaper | June 1, 2010 10:51 AM | Report abuse

OH Wait I left out the fact that Obama called for MORE deep sea drilling 2-3 weeks BEFORE the BP disaster!

Hey we elect a leader who runs on his competency, despite a lack of experience, and once he's in office he better be competent. So, his MMS approves a license for a deep sea well for BP on his watch and then drops the ball in overseeing it- he lets BP run the attempted capping and containment while the inhabitants of the Gulf Coast suffer- and he throws tar balls on the beach on network tv- then he sends his AG, Holder, to threaten criminal charges, as if that will stop the oil- because HE WASN"T COMPETENT IN THE FIRST PLACE! (Navy, anyone?)

Posted by: thecannula | June 1, 2010 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Another world crisis, is that the third this week? berry is out to lunch as usual.

It's too bad America's best ally in the Middle East has to deal with this empty suit in the White House. With the entire rest of the world in full throated outrage over the terrorist ambush - and it has been for more than 24 hours - we have yet to hear from the man who is ostensibly the Commander in Chief and has been constitutionally delegated to make our foreign policy.

Where the hell is the President of the United States?

Sure, he's on vacation and all - must recharge the batteries after all those exertions on behalf of - well - some of the people anyway. But you would think that even Barack Obama could find the time between pick up basketball games and pleasant naps on the holiday weekend to personally issue a statement on a matter of war and peace - especially one involving an ally he swears he supports.

Ominously, the reason for this dearth of presidential interest may, in fact, be a not so subtle message that the US is about to turn on its beleaguered ally and join most of the rest of the world in ignoring the facts and pretending that Hamas has any legitimate claim to being an aggrieved party, and that the organization that funded these "peace" activists was a designated terrorist outfit.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 1, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse

And sure enough, bumblingzouk -- there you go with your daily carpet-bombing. It's seems to be part of your mental illness that you accuse everyone else of doing exactly what you are doing.

Posted by: drindl | June 1, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Would someone remind us again why the nation elected this man to be president? A man with no resume, a man with no experience in running anything other than a political campaign, a man who is ignorant of history, economics, and technology? A man who is shallow and lazy? A man who shares neither character nor temperament with the American people in this vast republic? How did this happen?


Voters were smitten by the ideological handmaidens of identity politics and the promise of big government. The identity politics substituted a cosmetic profile for character and experience. The promise was that big government has the benevolent power and enlightened expertise to remake America from the top down into a more capable, more caring, kinder, gentler, and more respected place.

What we've received instead was on display at the president's long-awaited press conference in the last week of May. Only a partisan or a fool could deny the irredeemable failure of these ideological handmaidens, the genius of Obama's shrinking presidency. No amount of posturing, buffing up, or Q&A briefing book drills could hide the reality that this man is on a raft at sea accompanied by an equally bewildered boatload of companions who have no idea how they arrived in such deep water, hundreds of miles from land, and with no clue that they are in trouble, let alone what to do about it.


What we've received instead from the ideology of identity politics and big government has been the spread of competency and accountability so thin that the federal government is utterly incapable of defending our shores and borders from invasion -- one by sea in the form of a massive crude oil slick, the other by land in the waves of illegal immigrants flooding Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, and California. In utter exasperation, the citizens of Arizona finally took matters into their own hands, only to be vilified by Obama and his cohorts, who have neither the will nor the capacity to do anything about it.
And now we are watching in slow-motion agony the failure of identity politics and big government unwilling and unable to cope with the BP Gulf of Mexico oil spill disaster, gradually revealed like a developing image from a Polaroid instant print. Identity politics assured that no one with any skills or experience would occupy the top jobs in Obama's administration needed to navigate a crisis of this magnitude.


And where oh where is the president, anyhow? Playing another round of golf and hosting the Duke University women's basketball team.


Obama's presidency is finished because identity trumped competency. And without competency, his big government is dysfunctional and destructive.
By Geoffrey P. Hunt

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 1, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

when are Washington's business-as-usual politicians going to learn that the cover-up is always worse than the original crime? As California Republican Rep. Darrell Issa, the ranking minority member of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, said, "Has there been stalling? Yes. Is there a possibility that what we're being told now is not true because it's not so plausible? Yes. Should there be independent investigation so we can move on? Yes." So there is a real possibility of obstruction of justice and conspiracy to obstruct in addition to the original violation. This is the gang that can't come up with a plausible story, much less shoot straight.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 1, 2010 10:31 AM | Report abuse

Did you hear the one about how President Obama got Slick Willie Clinton to offer second-term Democratic Rep. Joe Sestak an unpaid appointment to an obscure White House advisory panel in return for dropping his primary challenge to incumbent Sen. Arlen Specter? Obama and his Chicago boys are still guffawing over how all the chumps in the media reported that one with a straight face. Hey, it's a just another reason why running a gangster government is nothing but laughs for the Obama crew in the White House.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 1, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

"take the shortcut and avoid the idiocy

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 1, 2010 10:17 AM | Report abuse "

"the empty life dingbat begins her carpet posting at the "office" as is her usual ranting and raving practice."


you pathetic loser. .. you do nothing but project. you will be here all day, posting every two minutes under 5 different names -- you want to talk about empty lives? hey, I'm not the one that has to pay women to talk to me, remember?

can we have another one of your psychiatric sessions, photographer boy? that last one was really entertaining.

Posted by: drindl | June 1, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse

Hey we elect a leader who runs on his competency, despite a lack of experience, and once he's in office he better be competent. So, his MMS approves a license for a deep sea well for BP on his watch and then drops the ball in overseeing it- he lets BP run the attempted capping and containment while the inhabitants of the Gulf Coast suffer- and he throws tar balls on the beach on network tv- then he sends his AH, Holder, to threaten criminal charges, as if that will stop the oil- because HE WASN"T COMPETENT IN THE FIRST PLACE! (Navy, anyone?)

Posted by: thecannula | June 1, 2010 10:25 AM | Report abuse

AndyR3 wrote:
#2-If Case wasn't planning to run in November if he lost then he should have stopped his campaign a month ago. Either way Hanabusa will win in November and probably hold the seat as long as she wants.

My Comment: It was the results of the Special Election that caused Case to change his mind. Contrary to the views of some, he's a good and strong democrat and realized that a primary race with Hanabusa could have been badly split the party. This gives the Democrats the chance to pull together and win the seat in a walk. Do not be shocked to see Case run for Mayor of Honolulu -- another very powerful position in the State of Hawaii.

Posted by: dcraven925 | June 1, 2010 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Whining eh?

"...talking about what we can do in the future to keep something like this from happening again..."

You mean, like Obama used to do back when he was running for President?

Posted by: shrink2 | June 1, 2010 10:13 AM | Report abuse

The New Mexico donation surprised me. However, it's legal. From NCSL.org:

Just six states - Illinois, Missouri, New Mexico, Oregon, Utah and Virginia - place no limits on contributions at all. Another seven states - Alabama, Indiana, Iowa, Mississippi, North Dakota, Pennsylvania, and Texas - have minimal contribution limits. [NOTE: Illinois and New Mexico passed contribution limits in the 2009 legislative session. NM's will take effect the day after the November 2010 elections, while IL's take effect on January 1, 2011.]

So, the Texas donation is legal--for THIS election.

Jake in 3D

Posted by: JakeD3 | June 1, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse

"Just want people to understand the Obama administration are absolute novices at managing oil disasters, but BP, this is what they do. We can see why the administration wanted to jump into bed with them, the experts who own all the memes, the vocabulary, the machines, until, last week I guess, they realized what that smell was coming out from under the covers..."

We don't elect presidents because they are experts at managing oil disasters, or fighting fires, or fixing cars either, do we? I mean, we did have Cheney and his secret meetings, of course, but then all we got was an Interior dept. full of oil lobbyists who set the failed policies that led to this disaster.

And, oh yeah, a war to secure drilling rights for oil companies in Iraq...

No one has the expertise in the oil business BUT the oil companies -- gee, what a surprise. Why don't you stop whining and start talking about what we can do in the future to keep something like this from happening again?

Like adopting a more reasonable and careful stance on offshore drilling and realizing it ALWAYS carries risk like this?

Posted by: drindl | June 1, 2010 10:10 AM | Report abuse

Politics and politicians are neutered by their own naivety.

ENDLESS GULF OIL SPILL: PURPOSEFUL 'END OF DAYS' POWER PLAY?

http://nowpublic.com/world/endless-gulf-oil-spill-purposeful-end-days-power-play

Gulf oil spill diverts attention from domestic atrocities against American citizens...

HOMELAND FUSION CENTERS SILENTLY ASSAULT, IMPAIR 'TARGETED' AMERICANS WITH CELL TOWER MICROWAVE RADIO FREQUENCY WEAPON SYSTEM, COMMUNITY VIGILANTISM, FINANCIAL SABOTAGE: VETERAN JOURNALIST

Are political leaders "targets" too?

http://nowpublic.com/world/u-s-silently-tortures-americans-cell-tower-microwaves

IDEOLOGICAL CENSORSHIP OF THE NET: NOT FOR CHINA ONLY

http://nowpublic.com/world/u-s-govt-censors-net-political-speech-targeted-americans OR NowPublic.com/scrivener


Posted by: scrivener50 | June 1, 2010 9:50 AM | Report abuse

"Not very helpful in predicting what's going to happen between now and November but interesting. But like the bumper sticker says,"Sh- (I mean oil) Happens" and alot of oil is going to happen between now and the eleventh month."


The Repubs are trying to turn the oil problem into an indictment on the ineffectiveness of the Obama administration, but they, again, aren't exactly proposing viable alternatives. Perhaps because there aren't any. To my way of thinking, there's still a huge opening for someone, ideally the President, to start proactively making the case for a significant carbon tax directed towards 1) cleaning up explicit damage like the oil spill and implicit damage like CO2 emissions; and 2) fund alternative energy sources. I'm also really curious about whether the spill changes the politics of the region - will gulf coast states be more open to the Dem agenda, if it means protecting the environment & thus jobs based on clean oceans and beaches, like fishing & tourism?

Posted by: bsimon1 | June 1, 2010 9:46 AM | Report abuse

BP so far is acting like anything but expert in managing a deep sea oil leak- is it not plainly understandable that BP should be the consultants and our Government should be running the show? Doesn't a two man sub have a greater chance of dropping a cap on a high pressure leak the size of a large dinner plate than robots controlled from the surface do? The Navy has such a sub- and more. (I picture the BP engineers playing that game at a carnival where you use the claws controlled by a joy stick to pick up a Songe Bob!)

Posted by: thecannula | June 1, 2010 9:43 AM | Report abuse

Look, one has to take Chris Cillizza's columns with a heavy dose of salt. When Chris calls a GOP challenge to a democrat "competitive" it usually means the democrat holds a 7 or 8 point lead. This happened in the recent Special Election in Pennsylvania when democrat Mark Critz held an 8 point lead over his GOP challenger. That lead remained pretty consistent throughout the campaign yet Chris kept trying to bolster GOP spirits by consistently labeling it as competitive when in fact it never was.

I believe Chris does this to try and create drama. Most political races at the House level are pretty boring. Chris goes overboard in trying to create an appearance of drama when in a great man of these cases there really is none.

Posted by: jaxas70 | June 1, 2010 9:42 AM | Report abuse

Not very helpful in predicting what's going to happen between now and November but interesting. But like the bumper sticker says,"Sh- (I mean oil) Happens" and alot of oil is going to happen between now and the eleventh month.

Posted by: glenglish | June 1, 2010 9:36 AM | Report abuse

Anyone from New Mexico on this blog? I'm just kind of amazed that the state's campaign finance laws allow one couple to contribute $450,000 to a single candidate.

If Martinez wins, be on the lookout for the elimination of all those "pesky regulations" in the building industry in New Mexico.

Posted by: Bondosan | June 1, 2010 9:27 AM | Report abuse

de nada

Just want people to understand the Obama administration are absolute novices at managing oil disasters, but BP, this is what they do. We can see why the administration wanted to jump into bed with them, the experts who own all the memes, the vocabulary, the machines, until, last week I guess, they realized what that smell was coming out from under the covers...

Posted by: shrink2 | June 1, 2010 9:25 AM | Report abuse

if the obama`s back you up for re-election you are in a lot of trouble,now he is sending his wife because the man can not be believed.i voted for obama because i knew that bush really screwed this country as a president,but obama and his gang of clowns really scare me.

Posted by: SISSD1 | June 1, 2010 9:25 AM | Report abuse

shrink2- thanks for the excellent link

Posted by: thecannula | June 1, 2010 9:16 AM | Report abuse

Didn't Obama run Against Outsourcing?

outsourcing- from Searchcio.com


- Also see nearshore outsourcing, onshore outsourcing, and offshore outsourcing.

"Outsourcing is an arrangement in which one company provides services for another company that could also be or usually have been provided in-house."

Can the United States Government fix this Historic Crisis "in house" or do we leave the Fate of all Gulf Coast Americans in the hands of Profit Motivated Brits?

Like the Oil Tony Hayward was "confident" would remain OFFshore, this outsourcing is ONshore by our Robocop administration.

Posted by: thecannula | June 1, 2010 9:11 AM | Report abuse

No wonder Tony Hayward was so confident this one was not going to be a big deal ("very, very, modest") early on,

"The company also gave an update on the oil spill currently being tackled in BP's Gulf of Mexico oil fields."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8645740.stm

Posted by: shrink2 | June 1, 2010 8:58 AM | Report abuse

Carly Fiorina - what a joke. She screwed up HP, now she wants to finish screwing up California.

Posted by: adrienne_najjar | June 1, 2010 8:54 AM | Report abuse

Why, we Republicans would never run this particular attack ad that is as outrageous as it is untrue, but those Democrats, they have no scruples...

"The Fiorina campaign even floated the language of a potential Democratic attack ad..."

Posted by: shrink2 | June 1, 2010 8:52 AM | Report abuse

Hey Chris- Where's the blog on the Gulf? It's kinda the biggest environmental disaster in our country's history-

Let's see- the biggest environmental catastrophe in US history and we have a private company trying to fix it with robots, when the Navy has manned submarines that dive 7 times the needed depth.... hmmmm of what does that remind you?

A Bad movie perhaps?

The Robocop President-

Does Obama think picking up tar balls on the beach is going to cut it?-

He should try spitting into the wind while, according to the Pew Research

Foundation, 82% of Americans are paying close attention and a

British run Private company runs the show!


What is this ROBOCOP- where Detroit privatized the Police Force?

Posted by: thecannula | June 1, 2010 8:48 AM | Report abuse

Dear WaPo,

Please promptly remove the advertising spam that crops up on this blog from time to time. That's a move we can all support, regardless of political persuasion!

Sincerely yours, Nosy Parker.

Posted by: Nosy_Parker | June 1, 2010 8:43 AM | Report abuse

Oh I agree Andy, I didn't say they were going to be hurt by this, some guy named Evgeny did. BP has already positioned itself for damage deniabilty in a variety of adroit ways.

Here is some fun context. It is on topic because Barbara Boxer is quoted

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7506346.stm

Posted by: shrink2 | June 1, 2010 8:27 AM | Report abuse

Shrink,
We are the largest consumers of oil in the world. BP will not leave the US. If anything they will change there name or merge with one of the other smaller oil companies and take on their name. It probably isn't a bad idea to buy some BP stock since it is so undervalued. If this spill ends up costing them 50 billion dollars that is still less than one year's profits for BP. I mean people thought the Valdez spill would kill Exxon, and last time I checked they were the most profitable company in the world.

Posted by: AndyR3 | June 1, 2010 8:19 AM | Report abuse

Boxer will be just fine come November and all the Democrats out there know it. Campbell and Fiorina are both lackluster candidates and the RNC/NRSC dont' have the cash to help out in CA. That is mainly why they hope Fiorina wins so that she can draw money out of the DSCC and DNC to make sure Boxer can get her message out.

#2-If Case wasn't planning to run in November if he lost then he should have stopped his campaign a month ago. Either way Hanabusa will win in November and probably hold the seat as long as she wants.

#4-I think just like Blumenthal, Kirk's exageration will be a story for 4 days and will then blow over. Gianullis was going to win this one anyway. If there is one thing that Democrats know how to do in Illinois its win elections. I mean these guys invented 'Vote early and vote often'.

Posted by: AndyR3 | June 1, 2010 8:12 AM | Report abuse

Speaking of money out of their pockets...
It isn't nice to lie.

"BP's share price has fallen nearly 17% to £4.12, its lowest level since March 2009.

BP's share price closed on Friday at £4.95, but fell to £4.12 after the markets reopened on Tuesday - after a Monday bank holiday - wiping £15.7bn off the value of the company.

BP's legal liability in the US is currently limited by law to a mere $75m, although this is expected to be increased to $10bn.

"The markets are pricing in an apocalyptic scenario," said Evgeny Solovyov, equity analyst at SG Securities in London.

He added that BP owns only 65% of the oil well, meaning its legal liability will be limited to just $6.5bn - although it could go higher if BP were found guilty of gross negligence.

"The markets seem to assume that BP will have to withdraw from America," he added, noting that there was talk among government lawyers about barring the oil company from US government contracts." BBC

So they may leave America? Is that before or after BP acknowledges the extent of the disaster going on under the surface? Are their lips moving? Investor confidence was faster to leave the company alone on the podium than the Obama administration.

Posted by: shrink2 | June 1, 2010 7:50 AM | Report abuse

I wonder how likely tea-party-supported candidates who win this year's primaries are to wind up in the November general elections energizing their opponents' potential voters to cast ballots for Democrats -- not only registered Democrats but also Independents.

Posted by: Nosy_Parker | June 1, 2010 7:47 AM | Report abuse

Ddawd, I haven't followed the Kirk story. If, as AB and FS say, Kirk now implies, he shared a unit citation, I doubt the story will have any effect. But suppose that implication is a false one, as well?

Posted by: MoreAndBetterPolls | June 1, 2010 7:40 AM | Report abuse

FWIW, the poll result showing Campbell leading Boxer seems to be an outlier. The other recent polls have Boxer in the mid 40s with either of the other two in the high 30s, low 40s. Boxer might only be in the mid 40s, but she doesn't have to get a lot of the undecideds to get to that 50% mark. Contrast that with someone like Harry Reid who is running even with his potential challengers, but has a long way to go to get to 50%

How does the Cali primary work? Does the nomination go to the winner of the plurality or is there a runoff? Fiorina and Campbell have the chance to really damage each other.

It's Cali and most likely neither one can beat Boxer, but I think the potential to tag Campbell as anti-Semitic could really sink him if that becomes a big issue in the general. For all her flaws, Fiorina isn't going to have to deal with that.

#4 I can't imagine this misrepresentation hurting Kirk as much as Blumenthal's misstatements hurt him. This will fade away by November.

More importantly, experts are predicting a report of about 500k jobs being added in the month of May. Still a ways to go before we make up for the 8 million lost, but every one counts.

And looks like Obama and company are positioning themselves as adversaries to BP rather than partnerts. Smart politics and I don't think it will hurt the effort since it's still in BP's best interests to get this leak stopped since it's money out of their own pockets for every drop of oil that gets out.

Posted by: DDAWD | June 1, 2010 6:57 AM | Report abuse

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