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Morning Fix: A ground war in New Jersey



New Jersey governor's race candidates Chris Christie (R), Chris Daggett (I) and Jon Corzine (D). AP Photo/Christopher Barth

Nearly $40 million has been spent on television ads by the three candidates and a myriad of interest groups in the New Jersey governor's race but it is on the ground not over the air where the race will be won and lost tomorrow, according to strategists on both sides of the partisan divide.

Polling suggests the race is a dead heat. A Monmouth University/Gannett survey released on Sunday showed former U.S. attorney Chris Christie (R) at 43 percent to 42 percent for Gov. Jon Corzine (D) and eight percent for independent Chris Daggett.

That the race is so tight is something of a victory for Christie -- given that Corzine has outspent him on television by $10 million, a stunning amount in a state with not one but two (New York City and Philadelphia) of the country's most expensive media markets. (The Republican Governors Association has spent $5 million of its own on ads which has helped to narrow but not eliminate Christie's spending gap.)

But, Corzine's financial might is not just seen on television. He has dumped massive amounts of money into a ground game that, when coupled with the work the White House political operation, the Democratic Governors Association and the labor community is doing, could, as Democrats believe, be the key to driving just enough Corzine voters to the ballot box tomorrow for him to win (narrowly).

Republicans acknowledge that the Democratic ground game is superior to their own, an advantage due not just to Corzine's money but also to the residual effects from President Obama's campaign in the state last November.

All told, there were roughly 500,000 newly registered Democrats in the 2008 election. Much of Corzine's strategy throughout the campaign is to try to reach those new voters and convince them to vote in what is traditionally a far lower turnout election.

The president, hoping to do just that, made his third stop in New Jersey for Corzine since August on Sunday night.

Said Obama at a rally in Newark:

"If Newark votes like it voted last year, if New Jersey votes like it voted last year . . . if you will let your voice shine through, then I guarantee that you will not only reelect Jon Corzine for four more years, but you are going to put New Jersey on a path to success for years to come."

How can Republicans counter those efforts? By harnessing the same sort of discontent toward politics of usual that is playing itself out in the upstate New York special election, according to party insiders. Corzine is deeply unpopular among Republicans and even many independents and Christie and his team are staking much of those voters being fired up to turn out and cast a vote against the Democratic incumbent.

It's organization versus intensity. And what a battle it will be.

Monday's Fix Picks:

1. Frank Rich on NY-23.
2. What tomorrow tells us about 2010.
3. Will another Democrat enter the California governor's race?
4. Back to the future for Iowa in 2010.
5. Is ESPN defending the BCS?

Crist approval rating dips . . .: Florida Gov. Charlie Crist (R) is losing political altitude, according to a new independent poll conducted for the St. Petersburg Times and the Miami Herald. Forty-two percent of those polled said Crist was doing an excellent or good job while 39 percent said he was doing a "fair" job and 16 percent rated his work in office as poor. More troubling for Crist, who faces a primary challenge in next year's Senate race from former state House speaker Marco Rubio, is that a majority of Republicans (51 percent) rated his job performance as either fair or poor. Not all the news in the poll is bad for Crist, however, as he led Rubio 50 percent to 28 percent in a hypothetical primary matchup.

. . . As Rubio draws NY-23 comparison: Hoping to capitalize on the conservative uprising in Upstate New York, Rubio penned a blog post on National Review's "Corner" over the weekend touting the special election in the 23rd district as a "wake up call" for Republicans around the country. "It is not only right and necessary to stand up for our principles, it is also an appealing strategy to Americans yearning for less government and more fiscal restraint in Washington," wrote Rubio. Whether or not Hoffman wins tomorrow -- and, that remains somewhat of an open question -- it seems clear that his rise will bolster Rubio in his challenge to Crist next year. One thing to watch: does the Club for Growth, which has fueled Hoffman financially and has openly acknowledged an interest in Rubio, get involved on behalf of the former speaker?

Ryan (Jim not George) to enter IL-Gov.: Former Illinois attorney general Jim Ryan (R) will join an already crowded Republican primary field for governor when he announces his candidacy tomorrow. Ryan, who served two terms as the state's top cop, is best known for being the Republican opponent to then Rep. Rod Blagojevich (D) in the 2002 governor's race. Ryan lost that race 52 percent to 45 percent and has stayed out of politics since then, lecturing at Benedictine University. With the shadow of Blagojevich still hanging low over the governor's office, Republicans believe that the seat is theirs for the taking. Ryan joins state Sen. Bill Brady and Kirk Dillard as well as former state party chairman Andy McKenna on the GOP side.

Ferguson to DCCC: Jesse Ferguson, spokesman for former state delegate Brian Moran's (D) gubernatorial campaign in Virginia earlier this year, has landed at the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. Ferguson will serve as a spokesman for the southern region, a critical area for House Democrats as they seek to protect the gains they made in 2006 and 2008. "The position allows me to continue working in the politics of Virginia while expanding my work across the entire southern region," wrote Ferguson in an e-mail announcing the move.

Say what?: "They should have let Republicans choose who they wanted to have as their nominee instead of it being inside baseball smoke-filled room, the kind of stuff that we've all tried to get rid of." -- Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour offering his thoughts on NY-23 and proving hindsight is always 20-20 in an interview with CNN's John King.

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When Bush was our President 3.6 million manufacturing jobs were lost. How can the people in Virginia or New Jersey vote for another Republican? Here is a Link that gives details about the failed economic policies of Bush and the Republicans: http://budget.house.gov/doc-library/fy2009/7.31.08_Bush%20economic_%20and%20fiscal_%20record.pdf

Posted by: Dan1967wewon

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Dewon,

It's a shame that people would be put in the position of choosing between what the republicans have done and what obama and the democrats are trying to do. (and we don't even know yet what obama's true agenda really is)

Posted by: tjmlrc | November 3, 2009 10:11 AM | Report abuse

When Bush was our President 3.6 million manufacturing jobs were lost. How can the people in Virginia or New Jersey vote for another Republican? Here is a Link that gives details about the failed economic policies of Bush and the Republicans: http://budget.house.gov/doc-library/fy2009/7.31.08_Bush%20economic_%20and%20fiscal_%20record.pdf

Posted by: Dan1967wewon | November 3, 2009 2:39 AM | Report abuse

Snowbama said: Watch for all the dirty acorn tricks and all the found suitcases of votes in nj. It will be an easy victory elsewhere but nj is so corrupt, the powers that be prefer the Karzai approach obambi has run out of excuses in Afghanistan. Maybe the dog ate his decision. Will he fault karzai for winning the same way he did?
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You are exactly right snowbama. According to the news tonight, Acorn and SEIU are up to old tricks in NJ. In the NJ “early” votes ---- illegal ballots have already been discovered. Acorn is doing their traditional trickery by taking voting ballots to people in nursing homes etc…After the election, each vote should be thoroughly scrutinized. Obama went to NJ five times for this election! This is a huge red flag to all NJ citizens. I don’t trust the Chicago mafia. So, Christi keep up your hard work. Let's get the tax king out of office.

Posted by: annlawler26 | November 3, 2009 2:14 AM | Report abuse

My main goal for the next few years is to eliminate the Liberal majority

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pretty big talk for a guy with no power to influence or affect anything

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | November 2, 2009 10:22 PM | Report abuse

Comparisons to Stalin should be reserved for mass murdering dictators. Saddam admired Stalin.

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Now you're being as literal as Jake.

Stalin conducted purges.

The far-right of the GOP is conducting purges.

In one case the purged were murdered, in the other they're out of jobs. They still have the fact of being purged for ideological impurity in common.

Rich didn't say the GOP *is* Stalin, he said the GOP is performing in a Stalin-like way, which it is.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | November 2, 2009 10:17 PM | Report abuse

TMS: By all means, please nominate the most conservative candidates you can find in 2012. Palin/Bachmann sound good to you?

How about Huckabee/Barbour?

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I think a Palin-Pawlenty ticket has a GREAT chance of sweeping 50 states. After all they're both so intelligent and honest.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | November 2, 2009 10:13 PM | Report abuse

Corzine will of course also have the added advantage of the Workers Family Party and ACORN skirting the law for him. I just wonder if it will be enough to put Corzine over the top. Who knows maybe in 2013 the voters of NJ will finally understand you need to give a Republican a big advantage to beat the Democratic machine in NJ.

Posted by: iacoboni04 | November 2, 2009 10:04 PM | Report abuse

Democrats are so stupid they should have passed the unemployement extention weeks ago in Congress for the American people. Due to them failing to act thr Republicans will sweep the elections on Tuesday. Democrats have been too focused on Healthcare.

Posted by: mattadamsdietmanager1014 | November 2, 2009 4:30 PM | Report abuse

drindl,

Are you really that dense? Turns out the electable Rs are conservatives who you refer to as "wingnuts." Conservatives are poised to sweep the elections tomorrow. not the so-called "pragamatic" Rs who are simply a paler shade of Democrats.

Posted by: TooMuchSoccer | November 2, 2009 3:04 PM | Report abuse

TMS: By all means, please nominate the most conservative candidates you can find in 2012. Palin/Bachmann sound good to you?

How about Huckabee/Barbour?

Go for it!

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | November 2, 2009 3:10 PM | Report abuse

They could find a cure for all disease

>>>>>>>>>>>

you big government idiots can't even handle a vaccine.

Posted by: snowbama | November 2, 2009 3:02 PM | Report abuse

"I'm hoping that Hoffman looses bad tomorrow and we'll hear some great spin from that idiot Steele."

That idiot Steele is already trying to re-write history by hoping people forget that Hoffman destroyed the handpicked REPUBLICAN Party candidate.

Steele is not the chairman of the Conservative Party.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | November 2, 2009 2:58 PM | Report abuse


President Cheney and his sock puppet Bush left them undermanned and underresourced for 5 years while they occupied Iraq. YES I BLAME BUSH. He sent them there and left them there.

Obama has already increase troops in Afghanistan 50% over what they were when he came to office. The object was to secure the country for free elections. Well, that hasn't worked out so well, so in my opinion it is time to pull our troops out.

Y'all kept saying, "just make a decision" but leaving troop level the same is a decision, as is pulling back. When those choices are made, will the chicken hawks shut up? Of course not.

Posted by: mikenmidland | November 2, 2009 2:38 PM | Report abuse

It has been clear that no matter what Obama or any democrat does the GOP will say and vote no. They could find a cure for all disease and the right wing nuts would object.

I'm hoping that Hoffman looses bad tomorrow and we'll hear some great spin from that idiot Steele.

Posted by: PatrickNYC1 | November 2, 2009 2:25 PM | Report abuse

This is how warped and sick they are -- this president does what presidents do -- honor those who have died in service, something the former president didn't do.

So who do these patriotic wingnuts attack? Why, the president who honors military service. This is their through the looking glass world... the wacky world of Lala Land.
Posted by: drindl
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Diddler,

Your "dear leader" did this finally after almost a year in office. Meanwhile he endured the torture of trips to Hawaii, Nantucket, Paris, Copehagen, Germany, Switzerland, dinner and a show in NY, and about 30 campaign trips.
Not once in all that jet-setting time could your dear leader bother to even acknowledge the loss to families that he can't even fathom. Sacrifices that he can't imagine. Endurance that he couldn't even attempt to understand, never having served in any military capacity or even having held down a regular job for any length of time.
And now when our soldiers ask for his help he is in "consideration mode."
That's your hero!!

Posted by: tjmlrc | November 2, 2009 1:59 PM | Report abuse

koolkat -- they have like one of those cartoon calendars, and it gives them a word to use every day, or sometimes several days. 'Teleprompter' got about 10 months of every day usage. so their vocabularies tend to be real small.

Posted by: drindl | November 2, 2009 1:55 PM | Report abuse

'-I had golf that day."

You're confused. must be talking about President bush, who spent every single day on his bike or golfing. that was why he was too busy to go to military funerals.

Posted by: drindl | November 2, 2009 1:53 PM | Report abuse

-Hello, this is Present ident Obama. would it be OK if I took a couple of photos with the coffin of your son as he returns to america. you see, I have a lot of trouble deciding things and if only I had a few nice shots of me looking, well, you know, solemn and presidential, it might help me pass health care.

-where were you when my son was calling for reinforcements?

-I had golf that day.

- click

-Try the next one on the list. tell them I'll read a speech at their next party.

Posted by: snowbama | November 2, 2009 1:41 PM | Report abuse

"A year ago I couldn't even spell photo-op."

Anyone surprised by this?

Posted by: nodebris | November 2, 2009 1:31 PM | Report abuse

"You're right splatkat! A year ago I couldn't even spell photo-op. Now I know exactly what it means. And I have mr. photo-opbama to thank! You see, once I see something hundreds and hundreds of times I get it. Seems kinda sick and tacky though to call the families of the slain soldiers and ask them for a phot-op. Dontcha think? Since it was only one family that would permit it, I'm kinda thinking the other families thought it might be tacky too!"

Teleprompter
Socialism
Dither
Photo-op

Rightwingnuts can handle only one word at a time.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | November 2, 2009 1:31 PM | Report abuse

"You're right splatkat! A year ago I couldn't even spell photo-op. Now I know exactly what it means. And I have mr. photo-opbama to thank! You see, once I see something hundreds and hundreds of times I get it. Seems kinda sick and tacky though to call the families of the slain soldiers and ask them for a phot-op. Dontcha think? Since it was only one family that would permit it, I'm kinda thinking the other families thought it might be tacky too!"

Teleprompter
Socialism
Dither
Photo-op

Rightwingnuts can handle only one word at a time.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | November 2, 2009 1:31 PM | Report abuse

This is why wingers are so uniformly loony -- these myths spread like fire through their vast media echo chamber, and they are credulous enough to beleive them. This stuff is so stupid and trivial most of us never hear it, but its the lies these poor fools live on.

"President Obama honors the troops was visiting the families of the dead

US President Barack Obama has paid his respects to 18 Americans killed in Afghanistan.

The bodies of 15 US soldiers and three Drug Enforcement Agency agents were transferred to a mortuary on the base.
The president also met their families privately.

His predecessor, George W Bush, visited the families of dead troops but never received the bodies at the base, in Dover, Delaware.

Mr Bush also did not go to military funerals.

Mr Obama, who was wearing a dark coat, was taken to the base, 100 miles (161km) from the White House, by the Marine One helicopter to greet the C-17 aircraft that had brought back the dead.

He boarded the plane and watched as a military chaplain prayed for those who had passed away."

This is how warped and sick they are -- this president does what presidents do -- honor those who have died in service, something the former president didn't do.

So who do these patriotic wingnuts attack? Why, the president who honors military service. This is their through the looking glass world... the wacky world of Lala Land.

Posted by: drindl | November 2, 2009 1:26 PM | Report abuse

"Reality check for the clinically insane."

Years of wandering in the wilderness, muttering.

"all the spin in the world won't change the outcome after the fact. all the yelping and media hand wringing can't alter election booth results.

Obimbo won with over 52%".

Posted by: drindl | November 2, 2009 1:15 PM | Report abuse

"I know. The photo-opbama doesn't have any values but then if you don't have any either you vote his way.
See? It works."

The rightwingnut race to the bottom on this blog is heating up.

Look how fast a new word spreads among the braindead inbreds on the right. Today it's photo op.


Posted by: koolkat_1960 | November 2, 2009 12:05 PM
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You're right splatkat! A year ago I couldn't even spell photo-op. Now I know exactly what it means. And I have mr. photo-opbama to thank! You see, once I see something hundreds and hundreds of times I get it. Seems kinda sick and tacky though to call the families of the slain soldiers and ask them for a phot-op. Dontcha think? Since it was only one family that would permit it, I'm kinda thinking the other families thought it might be tacky too!

Posted by: tjmlrc | November 2, 2009 1:13 PM | Report abuse

see what talking to it accomplishes, mark? a litany of stupidity. why bother with circus tricks and talking beasts?

Posted by: drindl | November 2, 2009 1:12 PM | Report abuse

the perils of Obamaism:

The Virginia state-delegate races are where things really get interesting. State senators serve four-year terms and are not up for reelection, but Republicans now hold 53 house seats, Democrats hold 45, and two independents generally vote with the Republicans. Democrats control the state senate, and once hoped to take control of the house.

That’s not going to happen. GOP sources say the party has challengers within the margin of error or better against Democratic incumbents in eleven races, whereas they’re worried about only one or two of their own incumbents. That math suggests that a gain of nine seats is not unthinkable, a scenario that seems to grow more plausible as McDonnell’s lead grows. Most put the number of gained seats between three and eight, with a best-case scenario of 11 seats gained.

Much of the post-election discussion will focus on how much responsibility for Virginia Democrats’ woes can be laid at Obama’s feet. The dire outlook for the state delegates suggests that the problems for the party go well beyond the missteps of Creigh Deeds. We knew as soon as Georgia’s runoff election that the Obama appeal didn’t transfer to just any Democrat; this year may prove that only Obama himself can bring out African Americans and young voters in the numbers we saw last year. (And who knows if either demographic will be quite as enthusiastic about an incumbent Obama three years from now?)

Deeds has a multitude of flaws as a candidate, but it’s doubtful that he’s single-handedly bringing down Wagner and Shannon; in 2005, McDonnell won as attorney general and Bolling as lieutenant governor despite a Democrat’s winning the governor’s race. Top to bottom, Democrats have failed to give voters a compelling reason to vote for them this year, a problem compounded by the fact that the President Obama of 2009 is way to the left of, and not nearly as appealing as, the Candidate Obama of 2008. Four years ago, the ad that the Obama campaign aired the most in Virginia touted his determination to cut taxes for 95 percent of Americans. Virginians now see the fine print, with that much-touted tax cut amounting to $13 a week and offset by new tobacco taxes.

Posted by: snowbama | November 2, 2009 1:10 PM | Report abuse

margaret: Deeds has run some tv ads, but McDonnell has more money.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | November 2, 2009 1:05 PM | Report abuse

but it could also land Republicans deep in the minority for years to come. "


Posted by: drindl


Reality check for the clinically insane.

check tomorrows election results. all the spin in the world won't change the outcome after the fact. all the leftist yelping and media hand wringing can't alter election booth results.

Obimbo won with over 52%. now he (as surrogate) is set for a landslide defeat only a year later.

spin away moonbats.

Posted by: snowbama | November 2, 2009 1:03 PM | Report abuse

koolkat @ 1140 -- I just spent a long weekend in DC. I saw lots of excellent TV ads for McDonnell, especially during the world series. I didn't see a single ad for Deeds. What was he spending his money on if not TV ads?

Posted by: margaretmeyers | November 2, 2009 1:03 PM | Report abuse

KK60, are you the same poster as LoudounVoter?

Posted by: mark_in_austin


Indeed, Loud and Dumb, aka Ace McNumbnuts. now known simply as stooge number 2 behind the hopelessly imbecelic drivl. all we need is CF8 (aka NAMBLA) to round out Curly, Larry and Moe.

Posted by: snowbama | November 2, 2009 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Tom Davis would now be branded a RINO by the rightwingnut teabagger mob.

Looking forward to the coming GOP civil war in Florida that will make NY-23 look like a real tea party.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | November 2, 2009 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Tom Davis would now be branded a RINO by the rightwingnut teabagger mob.

Looking forward to the coming GOP civil war in Florida that will make NY-23 look like a real tea party.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | November 2, 2009 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Aand this:

'The newest incarnation of confrontational conservatism — driven more by animosity toward government and Obama than by the social passions of the 1990s — has plenty of energy and bodies to turn out big crowds at tea party events, hijack congressional town hall meetings as it did in August and defeat a GOP-establishment-backed House candidate.

It also has leaders with louder microphones than those of House Minority Leader John Boehner of Ohio or Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky: former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and her Facebook page, Rush Limbaugh and his radio show and Glenn Beck with his popular 5 p.m. slot on Fox News.

Those commentator-entrepreneurs are far better known and are considerably more influential with the conservative grass roots than the GOP’s Washington leaders — congressional Republicans such as Georgia Rep. Phil Gingrey and even Steele have both been forced to call Limbaugh to apologize after making critical statements about him to the media — yet they carry unmistakable downside risk. Not only are they unpopular with many moderate voters, but they also have histories of saying wildly impolitic things.

Make no mistake: There is a huge divide between the public rants of this activist wing and the private angst of party leaders in D.C.

Numerous GOP officials have told POLITICO they worry that the party has been hijacked by a noisy and powerful minority that will keep the GOP in a noisy and not-so-powerful minority for a long time. "

Posted by: drindl | November 2, 2009 12:51 PM | Report abuse

As I predicted, here's what's coming:

"This energy on the right seems to exist outside the control of the conventional political structure, and GOP politicians and operatives are as likely to be victims of this anger as beneficiaries.

GOP leaders are about to learn the lesson again, several conservatives warned. Grass-roots activists are ready to turn their fire on Republicans in a host of races across the country, said Adam Brandon, a spokesman for FreedomWorks, an organization that helped gin up the tea party protests and town hall flare-ups.

“If you look at other bellwether races, we’re still going to be on opposing sides,” said Brandon, who pointed to the Florida Senate race, where a conservative former state House speaker is taking on GOP-establishment-backed Gov. Charlie Crist as the next major conservative electoral stand.

“There are going to be other conflicts,” said Brandon. “We have a lot of work to do. The [Doug] Hoffman campaign was the beginning. It was not the climax.”

Tom Davis, former head of the National Republican Congressional Committee, said this rage against the GOP machine might feel good for disgruntled conservatives, but it could also land Republicans deep in the minority for years to come. "

Posted by: drindl | November 2, 2009 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and juvenile-joke spellings and laughably wrong citations of 'socialism'.

Posted by: drindl | November 2, 2009 12:41 PM | Report abuse

addendum:

I was a solid Libertarian voting that way for years until the 911 attacks showed that isolationaism was not working as planned. In the face of kooky Democrats, the only solution was to back the Repubs, despite the spending and social meddling.

I have found that many Rs who talk a good game of social conservatism at home do not act or vote that way in DC. you must get reelected in order to do your job after all and their districts deserve to have their opinions represented.

Posted by: snowbama | November 2, 2009 12:40 PM | Report abuse

I agree with the previous comments; thanks for participating, reason5.

Posted by: nodebris | November 2, 2009 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Agree with katem. I don't agree with reason's politics at all, but it is a breath of fresh air to read a conservative opinion that isn't full of infantile illiteracy, illlogical nonsense, and incoherent rage.

Posted by: drindl | November 2, 2009 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Mark - It is important to stop the slide into unmanageable liberalism, the lies, the spin, the phoney accounting, the coersion. If this involves splitting into a parliamentary system with three parties, so be it. We could have the extreme left, represented by the current Democrats, the soft middle, represented by the current Republicans in DC and the new right party, the conservatives, who wish to return to the Reagan approach of limited government. On many issues the Rs and Cs would converge to stop economic socialism. On others, the Rs and Ds would advance liberal social policy and spending.


My main goal for the next few years is to eliminate the Liberal majority and fire Reid and Peloony. I hope that the Rs don't return to big spending, big government that got us here. It would be nice if some Lib grew a spine and killed our enemies, and I don't mean fox news in either capacity.

I think the lesson of listening to the left stream media for candidate and issue advice is a loser for Rs. No squishy RINO is going to win a lot of elections in the near future. Of course you must repesent your district, but there are so many simply wrong lib ideas floating around that are downright dangerous.

Posted by: snowbama | November 2, 2009 12:36 PM | Report abuse

reason5, I disagree with your politics but wish to thank you very much for your posts. They are factual and non-insulting, and can be discussed without rancor or malice. Please, for balance and realism, continue posting here so that real, adultlike discussins can insue. If only more GOPers would respond this way, a proper and loyal opposition would be in place in DC. Example: seeing the writing on the wall that spelled out the global economic crisis, the Conservative govt. here in Canada put forth a defecit budget, which contained many stimulus dollars for jobs, unemeploymant benefits and tax cuts only for the lowest of income earners. Meanwhile in DC, the GOP was responding with a 7 page budget outline that contained no numbers, just creeds and tenets, while they voted overwhelmonly NO.

Posted by: katem1 | November 2, 2009 12:27 PM | Report abuse

KOZ, when you are supportive of social conservatives whose agenda is anything but libertarian, do you choose on "the enemy of my enemy" theory? Or do you distinguish between economic libertarianism and social libertarianism, approving only of the former?

We once had a serious discussion where you suggested that you only disagreed with Ron Paul's FP views, so I have some reason to ask this question, if seemingly out of the blue.

KK60, are you the same poster as LoudounVoter?

Posted by: mark_in_austin | November 2, 2009 12:13 PM | Report abuse

"I know. The photo-opbama doesn't have any values but then if you don't have any either you vote his way.
See? It works."

The rightwingnut race to the bottom on this blog is heating up.

Look how fast a new word spreads among the braindead inbreds on the right. Today it's photo op.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | November 2, 2009 12:05 PM | Report abuse

poor yellowsnow -- it so upsets him when someone else posts on this blog, because it's his whole life.

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Posted by: koolkat_1960 | November 2, 2009 11:24 AM

Seems like two of the stooges have usurped the blog. I look forward to the bumbling explanations for the electoral route tomorrow. Just as they never accept responsibility for their own actions, lives or bills, they will blame this landslide loss on................Bush??????

Posted by: snowbama | November 2, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

here's why sarah palin's book is "#1" -- email i just got from newmax.

FREE OFFER
Get Sarah Palin's New Book

they're simply giving it away to anyone who will take it.

Posted by: drindl | November 2, 2009 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Whether it comes from Sarah Palin or barack obama. Vote your values seems be good advice.
I know. The photo-opbama doesn't have any values but then if you don't have any either you vote his way.
See? It works.

Posted by: tjmlrc | November 2, 2009 11:48 AM | Report abuse

drindl -- how incredibly funny is it that the brainless Palin is doing robo-calls?

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | November 2, 2009 11:48 AM | Report abuse

And here is more Sarah Palin, sticking her nose in where she isn't wanted:

"RICHMOND, Virginia (CNN) – Sarah Palin isn’t staying out of the Virginia governor’s race after all.

Less than 48 hours before voters head to the polls to elect a new governor, several Virginians reported receiving robocalls on Sunday from the 2008 GOP vice presidential nominee, urging them to “vote your values” on Tuesday.

But the recording makes no mention of the Bob McDonnell, the Republican gubernatorial candidate who has been reluctant to embrace Palin during the governor’s race, out of fear that she might alienate some of the independent voters who have helped him climb to a healthy lead in the polls over Democrat Creigh Deeds."

Posted by: drindl | November 2, 2009 11:39 AM | Report abuse

yellowsnow seems to have verbal diarhea this morning, plagarizing frantically. not tht that is unusual. just seems to have driven everyone else away... not unusual either.

Posted by: drindl | November 2, 2009 11:28 AM | Report abuse

reason -- very good analysis. In Va, McDonnell ran a very good, slick, safe campaign. Deeds ran a horrific campaign. The worst I've seen from either party since moving to Va in '92.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | November 2, 2009 11:24 AM | Report abuse

The withdrawal of Dede Scozzafava from the special election for Congress in upstate New York has predictably set off another wave of media-led hand-wringing about the health of the GOP. (These stories are like crack for reporters, especially those with a hard-left slant. It is always framed as a battle between ‘conservatives’ and ‘moderates,’ but the focus is actually much narrower.

To Big Media, conservatism comes in only one flavor, social conservatism, namely anti-abortion and anti-gay marriage and a smattering of other issues that would fall flat over canapés and seltzer (liberals don’t seem to drink anymore). That Dede was pro-choice and pro-gay marriage fits the narrative perfectly for the media. End of story.

But, the media, and political leaders would be wise to dig a bit deeper into the story. Yes, Dede was pro-choice and pro-gay marriage, but she was also pro-government spending, pro-taxes and pro-Big Labor, to name just a few other issues. When a Republican candidate regularly seeks out the endorsement of ACORN and wins the endorsement of DailyKos, it isn’t much of a stretch to imagine that large segments of the party might have some misgivings about supporting the candidate. (And they would be right, since she has now endorsed the Democrat in the race.)

The media and the national Republicans who backed Dede are furiously spinning her withdrawal as meaning that pro-choice and pro-gay marriage candidates ‘need not apply’ for the GOP ticket. The media is warning that, unless the GOP nominates, ‘moderates’ the public will reject the party’s candidates and condemn it to perpetual minority status. Right, the media is worried about this. I find it is generally wise to be skeptical of advice given me by my opponents.

This year, the Washington Post—the most effective arm of the Virginia Democrat Party—thought it found the silver bullet to kill the gubernatorial campaign of republican Bob McDonnell. They unearthed a 20-year old thesis McDonnell wrote in college that contained some pretty embarrassing statements–at least by today’s standards—about whether, for example, families are better off if the wife doesn’t work outside the home. The Democrats based almost their entire campaign, and the Post based most of its coverage, on McDonnell’s thesis. It must chill them to the bone that McDonnell is set to win by one of the larger margins in state history. It isn’t that the public, or even McDonnell today, agrees with what’s in the thesis; they just don’t care.

http://biggovernment.com/2009/11/02/the-long-dark-tea-time-of-the-gops-soul/

Posted by: snowbama | November 2, 2009 11:23 AM | Report abuse

I am glad Crist is dropping in poll numbers. I still believe Rubio can get the Club for Growth to endorse him & spend heavily on his behalf in the Republican primary. They will attack Crist on property insurance deals he's made as governor & his support for the Stimulus package. If Rubio can then get a public endorsement from Jeb Bush, he's in it to win it. Rubio can be the Republican nominee in the US Senate race in Florida. If he is, he beats Meeks in the GE. Either way, Florida will stay Republican. But I hope Rubio wins the election as he's the only true conservative in the race.

Posted by: reason5 | November 2, 2009 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Need to redefine the Dem term leader next:

A pro-life Congressman is claiming that President Barack Obama told him in a phone conversation that when he addressed Congress on Sept. 9 and said “under our plan no federal dollars will be used to fund abortions” he was not talking about any of the bills currently pending on the Hill, but his own plan – which only exists theoretically.

Rep. Bart Stupak, D., Mich., told CNSNews.com that he confronted the president about this statement in a phone conversation, saying that abortion funding was indeed provided in all of the bills on the Hill. The President corrected him saying that when he addressed Congress, he said, “Under my plan” abortion funding would not be provided.

At this point, Rep. Stupak said, “With all due respect sir, you do not have a plan. The only plan we have out is the House plan’.”

The president offered no reply, saying only, “Go back and work with the people on your committee and get this matter worked out. Work with the Speaker. Work with us, would you?”

“So, I don’t know if it is a game of semantics or what,” Rep. Stupak concluded.

Fr. Frank Pavone, National Director of Priests for Life, believes a game of semantics is exactly what the president is playing.

“Every time the President has spoken of not wanting to fund abortion in ‘his’ health care plan, no one has really known what measure he was talking about,” said Fr. Pavone. “Now, we know from his conversation with Congressman Stupak that the President’s ‘plan’ has never seen the light of day. Or, maybe, to paraphrase former President Bill Clinton, it depends on what the word ‘plan’ means.”

Posted by: snowbama | November 2, 2009 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Verdict on O one year later: Nothing doing
By ANDREA PEYSER

ONE year ago this week, I stood shoulder-to-shoul der with thousands of tearful, hopeful Ameri cans and Oprah Winfrey in Chicago's windswept Grant Park to witness the coming of a miraculous change: the Age of Obama.

I'm still waiting.

To say our youthful president has accomplished little during his first months in office is a gross exaggeration, it pains me to say. He has done virtually nothing.

In the Obama White House, arrogance, vanity and hesitation has replaced action. A level of suspicion unseen since the days of Richard Nixon flourishes at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

Republicans who oppose government-run health care are lying enemies. Or lackeys for insurance companies.

Fox News Channel does not merely give voice to the loyal opposition. It's the bogeyman.

It doesn't have to be this way.

The Obama administration hit rock bottom on the day the president ignored a tattered economy and jetted off to Copenhagen with his buddy Oprah to help his hometown of Chicago secure the Olympics. The international community, to whom he's bowed embarrassingly, laughed in his face.

This was quickly followed by a one-two punch of global humiliation, although Obama didn't see it that way. He was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize based on his empty portfolio of delays and dithering. On his inability to make a decision on whether to send more troops to Afghanistan. His unfinished business in Iraq.

That he would dare accept such a ridiculous honor demonstrated to his many critics, and even some friends, that to Obama, it is better to be liked than to be respected. The conservative commentator Charles Krauthammer calls Obama's masters the "vague, international community." A lefty bunch that Obama takes pains to please but that may not even exist.

It's time to get back to business.
This country, with the exception of hard-core kooks on the coasts, is deeply conservative. Actually, even in the big cities that form his natural base, caution is key to understanding Americans.

We may like the notion of universal health care, but in reality, we don't trust that the government can start the huge program from scratch without gross mismanagement, waste and fraud. You can yell all you like that the right is spreading "disinformation."


Posted by: snowbama | November 2, 2009 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Haley Barbour must be smoking something to think he could be elected president in 2012.

Mississippi vs Alaska for the Republican nomination. Could it get any better for Obama?

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | November 2, 2009 11:15 AM | Report abuse

This one will be a "all votes counted" deal. I think Virginia is going Republican with McDonnell defeating Deeds by a comfortable margin. McDonnell will also bolster Bolling & Cuccinelli on the ticket in winning Lt. Gov. & Atty. General seats. Virginia Republicans will also pick up seats in the General Assembly. I think NY-23, Hoffman vs. Owens, is still a bit up in the air with Dede out and endorsing Owens. On the other hand, the NRCC endorsed & is supporting Hoffman. I think Hoffman gets a better bounce than does Owens. I think Hoffman wins it. New Jersey will be so close, it's impossible to call. Just based on history, you gotta go with Corzine but it'll be so close.

Posted by: reason5 | November 2, 2009 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Quote by obama..........."Let your voice shine through"
But only if you agree with the democratic agenda.
If you don't agree then shut up astroturf.
Wow! What a country this has become............
VOTE ANYTHING BUT DEMOCRAT!!!

Posted by: tjmlrc | November 2, 2009 11:13 AM | Report abuse

second stooge arrives.

Loud and Dumb is in denial that Obimbo has turned over the Old dominion to the new Taliban - the Repubs, the actual enemy of the state. Lots of state seats going Red along with all three top spots.

what do you expect after a record of failure, incompetence and indecision?

Posted by: snowbama | November 2, 2009 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Re: Haley Barbour - I didn't know you could smoke baseballs! Is that legal?

Posted by: dre7861 | November 2, 2009 10:57 AM | Report abuse

I live in NYC just across the river and have family members who reside there so this is how I see this situation. As usual in American we want all this "stuff" but just don't want to pay for it or want someone else to. NJ is a microcosm of this. NJ residents pay some of the highest property taxes in the country. They also have some of the best public schools in the country. Do you want your kids AP classes, music or lacross cut for the sake of tax relief?

There are 600 municipalities and everyone likes their local police, fire and other local services. Getting them to share services is like pulling teeth. Everyone thinks you are going to take their Mayberry/Barney Fife police force away from them or force your kid to walk 5 miles to school.

Corzine has actually been a fiscal conservative. From starting to force the 600 municipalities to share and consolidate services to reducing the state workforce and adding a less expensive tier to the state pension fund for new employees and shoring up the pension fund that was looted and defunded by the Whitman/Steve Forbes tax cuts. He also fixed the school funding formula to make it fairer for surburban and urban districts.

It's gas tax is one of the lowest in the U.S. It should be raised to replenish the highway trust fund.

Posted by: MerrillFrank | November 2, 2009 10:55 AM | Report abuse

I wonder how long ol obama is going to blame bush? For everything? Forever?
When does obama step up to the plate?
It seems that maybe even though the American public isn't getting information from the mainstream media, they are getting information and they are giving notice.
My new policy is; As long as it's not a democrat, it gets my vote.

Posted by: tjmlrc | November 2, 2009 10:49 AM | Report abuse

yes, enough, you are right about that. The CFG is a parasitical enterprise.

Posted by: drindl | November 2, 2009 10:47 AM | Report abuse

drindl, just ignore armpit like we are now ignoring other trolls. Armpit is sick. Watch how one other troll will try to bait me into a response, like joked did before he went away.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | November 2, 2009 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Margaretmyers, you are spot on, and being so informed and properly cynical is what you are!
The Club for Growth even opposes micro-finance in developing countries because they say it breaks up families and takes the woman away from her traditional home based role by undercutting the man. They oppose the rise of any alternatives to rapacious capitalism where they and their cohorts seek to hoard all the wealth and capital in their unregulated financial businesses. Actually, micro-finance bolsters the family integrity and unifies the family. But hey, the right wing lives and prospers off of propagating myths, using the same prinicples here in the USA. NY 23 is a perfect example.

Posted by: enough3 | November 2, 2009 10:28 AM | Report abuse

margaret -- CFG does this all over the country. They have zero interests in local issues, which are especially important to this district. I feel bad for the people up there. Going from a decent man like McHugh as their congressman to, most likely, this clown Hoffman. Just pitiful.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | November 2, 2009 10:26 AM | Report abuse

poor armpit, all that illiterate rage boiling around in his head all day...

Posted by: drindl | November 2, 2009 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Only the Democrap Socialist Party could get away with the cheap shots of sliming Republican candidate Chris Christie's weight as a campaign issue, to try to assasinate his character and reputation. If a Republican had done that to a Democrap Socialist, not only would every overweight New Jerseyan be outraged about it, but the Main Stream Media would have crucified him/her without end. It must be nice to have the entire Main Stream Media in your hip pocket and working for your interests as the Democrap Socialists have.

Posted by: armpeg | November 2, 2009 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Enough3, groups like Club for Growth have no interest in the future of places like CD23. Their only interest is in the prosperity and freedom of their own corporate supporters. CD23 looks pretty defenseless to them, so it's a cheap target for take over.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | November 2, 2009 10:19 AM | Report abuse

Nice analyses, Chris.

Posted by: jethro1 | November 2, 2009 10:17 AM | Report abuse

Watch for all the dirty acorn tricks and all the found suitcases of votes in nj. It will be an easy victory elsewhere but nj is so corrupt, the powers that be prefer the Karzai approach

obambi has run out of excuses in Afghanistan. Maybe the dog ate his decision. Will he fault karzai for winning the same way he did?

Posted by: snowbama | November 2, 2009 10:10 AM | Report abuse

CC -- you might want to note that Michelle Bachman has annointed herself the Tea party Queen. In some synapse misfire, she confusedly likens the movement to a 'new' Michael Jackson movie -- see, it's like Michael Jackson in that it's already dead, I guess.

"In an interview with the Washington News Observer, Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) revealed that, next week in Washington, D.C., the right wing is trying to galvanize yet another mass protest rally against health reform.

Following in the spirit of the “tea party” protests in April and the Glenn Beck-inspired 9/12 rally, Bachmann announced, “We’re going to have a ‘house call’ and a big party out on the National Mall [next week], and we’re going to tell Congress what they can do with their health care bill.”

Fashioning herself as the leader of this mass protest, Bachmann exhorted everyone to “get off the couch, get in your car, get a van together, get a bus together, but get here! We’re going to have a ‘house call’ next week, and we need every American to be here.” She then issued this dire warning (infused with pop culture references):

The American people realize this is it. Just like that brand new Michael Jackson movie came out, ‘This Is It.’ This is it for freedom. If you believe in liberty, and if you’re rejecting tyranny, this is it."

Posted by: drindl | November 2, 2009 10:10 AM | Report abuse

One wonders if any G-O-pee spokespeople are capable of speaking with any originality rather than just repeating the GOP talking points and mantras ad infinitum. The Club for Growth, which encouraged and has financed the Hoffman candidacy in NY 23 without regard for local issues that impact the voters in this poor and eternally depressed region, mainly works for two things: less government and lower taxes on the rich.

The NY 23 district hugely benefits from government spending - can you say Fort Drum, food stamps, SCHIP, unemployment insurance, stimulus, etc. - and is a huge net recipient of taxes outsiders pay that are directed to the region, not the reverse. Most NY 23 residents are minimal taxpayers due to very low incomes.
Club for Growth backers are from LBO firms, private equity groups and wizards from Wall Street financial who are beneficiaries of the TARP and TALP, with personal incomes that put them in the top one percent in America (and certainly from hated downstate Manhattan, not NY 23 - and Hoffman is not even a resident of NY 23!)
This so-called "revolt" is really the result of the effect of CFG money being invested to generate emotional responses that have nothing to do with the issues and interests of the generally more moderate and traditional NY 23 voters. Let's see if Dede's voters move to Owens or Hoffman tomorrow.

Posted by: enough3 | November 2, 2009 10:07 AM | Report abuse

First stooge checks in.

Posted by: snowbama | November 2, 2009 10:05 AM | Report abuse

It's hard when you're just another working stiff, eh Doug?

"Douglas Holtz-Eakin, a senior policy adviser to Sen. John McCain’s (R-AZ) presidential campaign, “remains unemployed — and his COBRA health coverage is running out,” the Washington Post reports. “Irony of ironies, it gets worse. Holtz-Eakin, who is about to start shopping for insurance on the individual market, is 51. And he has one of those pesky ‘preexisting conditions’ that insurance companies often cite in denying coverage”:

Holtz-Eakin said he’s been paying about $1,000 a month to extend the private health insurance he received on McCain’s campaign through the government’s COBRA program, but that will expire in a few months. This is the first time in his life he has not had employer-provided health coverage. “I worry about where I go next in the way many Americans do,” he said."

Posted by: drindl | November 2, 2009 10:01 AM | Report abuse

Whether from tea people or Frank Rich, comparison of the political adversary to "Stalin" [or to "Hitler"] is witless and insulting. It says more for the speaker's inability to articulate a position than it does about the subject matter of the monologue. The column you cite sinks to that lowest common denominator of discourse - the hyperbolic insult.

Comparisons to Stalin should be reserved for mass murdering dictators. Saddam admired Stalin. That is really about as far as a serious journalist should ever take that. Rich reminded me of the flame warriors of the blogosphere - I think you can safely skip his column this week.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | November 2, 2009 9:53 AM | Report abuse

SPRINGSTEEN FACTOR BODES ILL FOR CORZINE -- OR IS THE BOSS JUST COVERING HIS BETS TO PRESERVE HIS INFLUENCE ON A GOV. CHRISTIE?

Bruce's apparent decision to sit on the sidelines in the Jersey gov race, at first blush, seems to signal trouble for the Corzine campaign among the legion of Jerseyans who take cultural cues from the Garden State's most famous resident.

But perhaps Springsteen is merely levering his potential influence. A Corzine administration would pursue a more progressive agenda with or without Bruce's endorsement. But by holding back in his traditional backing of a Democratic Party candidate, perhaps Springsteen is sending this message to Christie: You say you're a fan of mine. Okay. Just make sure you listen to my message when I come calling to enlist support for the causes and issues I really care about.

Or maybe the Boss is just fed up with the entire deal...

***

SECRET FED PROGRAM SILENTLY TORTURES, IMPAIRS U.S. CITIZENS WITH MICROWAVE/LASER RADIATION, SAYS MAINSTREAM JOURNALIST

* "Directed energy weapons," portable units and a nationwide installation camouflaged as cell towers, induce weakness, exhaustion, physical and neurological impairment, strokes, aneurysms, cancer -- and many victims do not realize what is making them sick.

• Thousands of Americans held hostage in their own homes to police-protected, fed-supported vigilante "community policing" stalking units, equipped with warrantless GPS devices, who vandalize and terrorize unjustly "targeted individuals" and their families.

* Regional Homeland Security- administered "fusion centers" reportedly serve as command centers for covert electromagnetic radiation attacks, pervasive surveillance, financial sabotage of those identified as "dissidents," "trouble-makers" or slandered as threats to society.

* Use of microwave weaponry to torture and impair political opponents recently confirmed by deposed Honduras President Manuel Zelaya.

* Pleas for justice, to local police and FBI, go unanswered -- as do demands for a Department of Justice Civil Rights Division investigation and congressional hearings.

"These are crimes against humanity and the Constitution, being perpetrated under the cover of national security and 'safe streets' by multiple federal and local agencies and commands -- an American genocide hiding in plain sight, enabled by the naivete of those who think 'it can't happen here.'" -- Victor Livingston, former reporter for WTXF-TV Philadelphia, Phila. Bulletin, N.Y. Daily News, St. Petersburg Times; producer/host, MSG Network Sports Business Report; columnist, NowPublic.com/scrivener.

http://nowpublic.com/world/gestapo-usa-govt-funded-vigilante-network-terrorizes-america OR (if link is corrupted / disabled): http://NowPublic.com/scrivener RE: "GESTAPO USA"

Posted by: scrivener50 | November 2, 2009 9:50 AM | Report abuse

Willie Brown writes a column (Fix Pick #3)??? Will wonders never cease ... Thanks, CC, that made my day.

The next day and a half should be very interesting. We even have a good race here in central PA for Centre County DA.

Posted by: mnteng | November 2, 2009 9:44 AM | Report abuse

For the following reasons I cannot vote for John Corzine:

He has had four years to address the tax issues facing the State of new Jersey and his only response is to continue to raise taxes.

New Jersey is considered the most corrupt State in the Union and he has done nothing to address this problem. i.e. the massive number of indictments returned just over a month past.

His reconsideration of selling the New Jersey turnpike after saying he would not sell it.

Tje obscene amount of money he has spent trying to get himself re-elected. I am tired of the robocalls and his campaign commercials. i.e. the fat man commercial is not nice!

John Corzine should return to Goldma Sachs, make more money, and then he can pay taxes to the State of New Jersey.

Posted by: mwhoke | November 2, 2009 8:50 AM | Report abuse

In regards to the New Jersey race, Corzine's record of failure normally would result in a loss but Democrats are not concerned about failure only power. The voters in New Jersey need to send Obama a clear message that tax and spend Democrats like Corzine lose elections no matter how much money the Unions and DNC dump into the race. We do not reward failure at any price. Bring back conservative values and fiscal responsibility to New Jersey, throw Corzine out.

Posted by: quillerm | November 2, 2009 8:40 AM | Report abuse

Only one of the eighteen fallen heroes'families agree to meet obama. He shamelessly conducts the photo op anyway.

Posted by: snowbama | November 2, 2009 7:29 AM | Report abuse

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