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Morning Fix: Courting Sarah Palin

1. The news that Illinois Rep. Mark Kirk (R) is actively seeking the backing of former Alaska governor Sarah Palin in his Senate primary race is the latest evidence of the power the 2008 vice presidential nominee carries -- thanks to the fact that she has become the voice of the angry right. The rumor that Palin is considering weighing in on a race is enough to set a candidate on edge; witness the nervousness of Gov. Charlie Crist (R-Fla.) at simply the whisper that Palin was likely to endorsed former state House speaker Marco Rubio in the Florida Senate primary. (It's not happening, according to Palin spokeswoman Meg Stapleton, who says an it's too early for an endorsement of either Rubio or Crist.) Palin is, by all accounts, focused heavily on her book, which hits shelves on Nov. 17, and isn't jonesing to throw herself into a series of primary fights any time soon.

2. National Republican Senatorial Committee Chairman John Cornyn's (Texas) much-publicized comment Wednesday that his organization won't be financially involved in any of the party's contested primaries is, in truth, less than it seems at first glance. For people like Kirk, Gov. Charlie Crist (Fla.), former state attorney general Kelly Ayotte (N.H.) and Secretary of State Trey Grayson (Ky.) -- all of whom have received tacit or overt support from the NRSC -- money won't be the reason they win or lose their respective primaries. In fact, the involvement of the NRSC is far more potentially problematic than its decision to hold its money out of primary fight; Senate Democrats have used the NRSC's support of Ayotte to gin up conservative opposition to her in the Granite State. (And, don't forget that the NRSC hasn't been involved financially in many primary races in recent years; the only two that jump to mind are Pennsylvania's Senate race in 2004 -- for Arlen Specter! -- and the Rhode Island Senate race in 2006.)

3. Do Democrats sense opportunity in the Florida Senate race? While the attention of the national political world is focused on the Crist-Rubio tussle on the Republican side, a number of Democratic bigs are helping Rep. Kendrick Meek (D) raise cash. Former president Bill Clinton is doing his fifth(!) fundraiser for Meek on Dec. 1 in New York City and earlier this week Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin (Ill.) helped Meek collect cash in Chicago. And, the Goreacle -- a.k.a. Al Gore for Fix novices -- will be at the Westin in Ft. Lauderdale on Nov. 14 to collect cash for Meek. Polling suggests Crist would be a heavy favorite against Meek but that the contest between Meek and Rubio would be much closer. Even if Meek doesn't win, if he can make national Republicans have to spend money in the Sunshine State Democrats will count it as a victory.

4. Need/want more winners and losers from the blowout in Virginia on Tuesday? Ryan Nobles, one of the Fix's best state-based political reporters, offers his take. A few more from the Fix vault: Winner: political consultant Barbara Comstock (R) who was the only GOPer to knock off a Democratic incumbent inside the Beltway . . . Loser: Sen. Jim Webb (D) who is up for reelection in 2012 and faces a re-energized Republican Party with many names jockeying for the top few slots. Lt. Gov. Bill Bolling's (R) decision to step aside in favor of Gov.-elect Bob McDonnell this year means he almost certainly will go for governor in 2013. State Attorney General-elect Ken Cuccinelli (R) has said he wants to serve several terms as top cop but the recent history of Republicans in that job suggests he might reconsider. And then, of course, there is former senator and governor George Allen who may well be looking for a way back into the politics game. All three men won't run for governor and if any of the three decides to take on Webb it could be a tough slog for the Democrat.

5. Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer (R) plans to announce she will seek a full-term in 2010, according to the East Valley Tribune, a decision that virtually ensures she will be near the top of Democrats' target lists in 2010. Brewer, the secretary of state who became governor when Janet Napolitano (D) became the head of the Department of Homeland Security in the Obama administration, has struggled to date as she seeks to balance the state's budget. The Democratic establishment has lined up behind state Attorney General Terry Goddard and polling -- albeit auto-dialed surveys -- shows him with a clear lead over the Republican incumbent.

6. Ned Lamont, the man who beat -- and then lost to -- Sen. Joe Lieberman (I) in the 2006 Connecticut Senate race, is almost certain to run for governor in 2010, according to a report in the Hartford Courant. "I think he's decided," said former state legislator George Jepsen who chaired Lamont's Senate effort in 2006. "He can always change his mind, but I think he's decided to run." Lamont is one of three serious Democrats in the contest -- Secretary of State Susan Bysiewicz and Stamford Mayor Dannel Malloy are the others. Republicans continue to wait on a decision from Gov. Jodi Rell about whether she will run again although there isn't much optimism in national GOP circles that she re-ups.

7. Caitlin Legacki, a former aide to North Carolina Sen. Kay Hagan (D), has taken over the communications shop for Iowa Rep. Bruce Braley. Braley is seen as a potential chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee at some point in the not-too-distant future after having been elected to the eastern Iowa seat in 2006. Braley will also be a wanted man in advance of the 2016 Democratic presidential primary -- assuming he stays in the House that long -- as eastern Iowa is the most strongly Democratic part of the state. "I can't wait to get back to Iowa as soon as possible and eat again at all the restaurants that helped me gain 15 lbs during the caucus," said Legacki, who worked for former Sen. John Edwards' (N.C.) presidential campaign in 2008, of her new job.

8. And speaking of early-voting presidential states, it's always a good thing to be the newly-elected mayor of Manchester, N.H. Less than 24 hours after winning the office, Mayor-elect Ted Gatsas (R) received calls from former Gov. Mitt Romney (Mass.) as well as Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty and former governor George Pataki (N.Y.), according to ABC's Teddy Davis. Looking for others in the Granite State likely to benefit from the chit-building operations of the presidential aspirants? Both outgoing Manchester Mayor Frank Guinta, who is running against Rep. Carol Shea Porter (D) in the state's 1st district and former representative Charlie Bass, who is seeking to reclaim his 2nd district seat, will be lavished with attention (and money) by people like Pawlenty and Romney seeking to win allies in advance of the 2012 fight.

9. "Tuesday's elections should put a scare into red state Democrats -- and a few blue state ones, too," tweets former Bush White House political svengali Karl Rove. That sentiment is also the lead of his Wall Street Journal column in which Rove argues that the current health care bill in Congress "could sink an entire fleet of Democratic boats in 2010" due to its cost and the taxes required to pay for it. "Tuesday's results were the first sign that voters are revolting against runaway spending and government expansion," writes Rove. "But Democrats likely ain't seen nothin' yet if they try to ram through health-care reform."

10. Yankees win! Thaaaa Yankeeees win! (John Sterling homage.) Fix Dad is smiling broadly back in Connecticut.

By Chris Cillizza  |  November 5, 2009; 5:44 AM ET
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CA alone neuters most of the old south

oowwww, so cruel

Posted by: shrink2 | November 5, 2009 4:07 PM | Report abuse

McConnell beating Deeds is not a "shocker". Christie barely beat Corzine, not a "wake-up call" by any means. Kirk is plain STUPID to invite Palin if he wants to be elected. Wingnuts are just that, wingnuts. And all too many forget that the primary between a wingnut candidate endorsed by Club for Growth/other out-of-the-mainstream "groups" is going to be either a bloodbath and/or require the opposing candidate to move so far to the right that he/she may win the battle but lose the war. And these races are state level, not presidential. Honestly, CA alone neuters most of the old south when one counts electoral votes.

Posted by: ILDem | November 5, 2009 3:24 PM | Report abuse

But Kendrick Meek versus Marco Rubio would be a blood bath for sure. I am sick of popcorn, but this one is going to be fun to watch.

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Go light on the butter and use some blended seasoned salt. And of course pop Reddenbacher.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | November 5, 2009 3:17 PM | Report abuse

"Rubio is clearly more conservative and perhaps can beat Crist. Especially with the Club for Growth & Jeb Bush's help. Jeb should go ahead & endorse Crist publically, and that would make this a much more even match and give Rubio a real shot to pull out the win."

Hmmmm, I lost the logic here on the last sentence.

But Kendrick Meek versus Marco Rubio would be a blood bath for sure. I am sick of popcorn, but this one is going to be fun to watch.

Posted by: shrink2 | November 5, 2009 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Fine, it's your firm belief. I don't care. Just stop responding to KOZ's posts and stop talking about him. It's ruining the blog. KOZ has been here for years, and he was a lot less effective before you came here and started playing along with him.

Posted by: Blarg | November 5, 2009 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Concerning the article written concerning Virginia & the big Republican wins there. If Cuccinelli wants to run for reelection to the AG's office in 2013, that would leave Bolling or Allen for governor. I think Bolling didn't run against McDonnell this year b/c he knew his chances to win that primary were slim to none. He knew his chances at reelection would be better with McDonnell on the top of the ticket in the GE as well. That being said, Bolling could opt out of state politics in 2012 and run against Webb. If Bolling ran against Webb, that would leave Allen free to run for Governor in 2013 with Cuccinelli running for AG again. I wonder if US Rep. Eric Cantor would consider running against Webb in 2012? He would be an excellent candidate. Although, he does have a leadership position in the US House, and he may see it best to stay there. In 2012, I know McDonnell will serve a full term unless he runs for President or VP & Cuccinelli is running for another term @ AG. So I'd say that means Cantor would have first dibs at Webb. I think he will likely decline, leaving Bolling or Allen to make a run.

As for the primaries, there are alot of Republican primaries in 2010 with no Republican President to push one or the other over the top. I definately think the RNSC should do all in it's power to clear the field and make sure Kirk, Ayotte & Grayson are their nominee in 2010. However, I can see conservatives backing Rubio against Crist in Florida. The last thing we need running for President in 2010 is Crist, and that's what he is dreaming of. Rubio is clearly more conservative and perhaps can beat Crist. Especially with the Club for Growth & Jeb Bush's help. Jeb should go ahead & endorse Crist publically, and that would make this a much more even match and give Rubio a real shot to pull out the win.

Posted by: reason5 | November 5, 2009 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Palin's new book should be titled "Palin for Dummies, by a Dummy."

The only thing is, those Dummies books might not have enough pictures and too many two-syllable words for the mouth-breathing, move-your-finger-across-the-page target audience member.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | November 5, 2009 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Don't keep repeating the same tired jokes about him being in a mental asylum.

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Not intended as a joke, it's my firm belief.

Read a few of his posts if you have the stomach for it and tell me with a straight face that this is a guy who can hold a job and work with people and whose comportment would survive a psych exam.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | November 5, 2009 2:33 PM | Report abuse

The question becomes, if the worst happens, if Rep. Bachman gets her protestors spun up with talk of rebellion and up raisings, then leads them in to Congress where they do something violent, where is her level of culpability?

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Wingers are amping up the rednecks to show up at Congress with guns. If someone gets shot they'll call it "grass roots rage" or some BS like that. They won't take any more responsibility for their own irresponsible rhetoric than they do for their failed economics or for two mismanaged wars.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | November 5, 2009 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Senator John McCain is a honorable man, but Americans have him to blame for Sarah Palin.

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Yeah the "honorable man" who lied his azz off in the campaign, who wouldn't acknowledge Obama's humanity or even his presence in the debates, who saddled America with a stupid vicious harpy who's lowered our political discourse to the level of a 60s rural tavern in Alabama.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | November 5, 2009 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Palin has got to be the most over-rated commodity since low-fat mayonnaise....

And her new book: By and For Illiterates.

Posted by: EdSantaFe | November 5, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse

I continue to be astonished at Cris Cillizza's tin ear when it comes to the power and influence of Sarah Palin. So far, every national election she has been affiliated with have ended up in the losing column. And I still cannot understand why the media--so utterly infatuated wioth the NY23rd before the election--are now treating like some decaying dead skunk on the sidewalk.

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co-sign

The Palin puffery is really getting old. She's not only rhetorical poison, she's electoral poison.

The idea that Palin represents some sort of political potency is tơ much of a stretch, the sort of elective self-delusion that Republicans thrive on. Yeah, cutting taxes increases revenue, o/~ everybody loves an invader o/~, Sarah Palin is the GOP kingmaker.

Wake up, Chris. She's a malevolent idiot and the only reason anyone hears about her is because people in the press are determined to keep her name in lights.

Which is just fine with the Democrats.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | November 5, 2009 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Chris needs to get some new sources. He's really falling behind in nailing the real narrative because he's only listening to FOX. Here it is -- the next scalp:

"Club for Growth, the conservative group that bankrolled Doug Hoffman's failed candidacy in NY-23, has, not surprisingly, set its sights on Gov. Charlie Crist (R-FL) today with an ad that will air on Florida television.

The ad attacks Crist for supporting the stimulus and speaking in favor of it at rallies with President Obama. It claims "200,000 Floridians have lost their jobs" since the stimulus passed."

And who will this help most?

Kendrick Meek.

Posted by: drindl | November 5, 2009 1:34 PM | Report abuse


Palin should endorse more "conservative" candidates.

She's really good at that, right?

Or is she going to quit that job, too?

Posted by: tony_in_Durham_NC | November 5, 2009 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Someone mentioned the real story of yesterday -- two more vote in Congress for the healthcare bill;:

Most of the commentary about last night's elections has centered around Republican pickups in the New Jersey and Virginia statehouses. But what's gone largely unnoticed is that the two congressional seats up for grabs last night both went to Democrats, and that will have immediate ramifications for health care reform.

The NY-23 seat abdicated by Republican John McHugh (who resigned to become Secretary of the Army) went to Democrat Bill Owens--the first Democrat to hold the seat in over a century. And the CA-10 seat abdicated by Democrat Ellen Tauscher (who resigned to become Under Secretary of State for Arms Control and International Security Affairs) went to Democrat John Garamendi.

That creates some simple arithmetic. Yesterday, Democrats had 256 voting members in the House. By week's end, they'll have 258. Last week, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi could afford to lose no more than 38 Democratic votes on a landmark health care reform bill. Next week, after Owens and Garamendi are sworn in, she can lose up to 40."

Posted by: drindl | November 5, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

I think it's fitting that Palin, who couldn't string a coherent sentence together if her facile little life depended upon it, is now considered "the voice of the angry right."

In re: Jim Webb, I can't imagine ANY of the three GOP contenders being able to unseat Webb from the Senate, as Webb's clearly ridden the moderate pragmatist path, and NoVa will almost certainly march out for him again. George Allen is finished, Bolling is still a nobody, and Kookinelli will definitely avail himself frequently of the opportunity to shoot himself in the foot between now and 2012.

Posted by: TomCadorette | November 5, 2009 1:24 PM | Report abuse

I mis-spelled strategist. My mistake.

Posted by: beeker25 | November 5, 2009 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: fmjk
The fact that Rove is crowing about health care reform as a wedge issue shows the shallowness and self interest of the Republican party -- it's all about power and winning and not about improving anything that is wrong in this country
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Rove have always use wedge issues in order to win. As a matter of fact some years ago before he got involve with Bush, he helped a candidate run for office in a state by using the very tactic of sliming people. One of the stratgist, in an interview, said the mere name just scares him.
Goes to show you that the Republican is all about power and actually denied the fact many of its policies created the mess we are in now.

Posted by: beeker25 | November 5, 2009 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Two great facts for you snowbama

Largest deficit = GW Bush administration
2nd = Reagan administration

That is all.

Posted by: Jimibristol | November 5, 2009 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Palin will let Kirk dangle for a good long time, then my guess is she'll tell him to go dangle some more.

He's a RINO as far as she's concerned.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | November 5, 2009 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Losercuda, I asked someone to post the names of Republicans who could take down Webb, because I couldn't think of any. And none of these three clowns can do it.

Bill Bolling in 2012 will have served seven years as VA Lieutenant Governor and not have a single accomplishment to brag about. He is a hack, nothing more.

Cooch rode McD's coattails this time around. The nutjob would be fully exposed to the light if he challenges Webb.

Macacawitz won't come back.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | November 5, 2009 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Palin's guy lost. The conservatives are dead. Only moderate Republicans stand a chance in a world defined by Barack Obama.

Posted by: chucky-el | November 5, 2009 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: snowbama
I am off to House of Mouse to celebrate our brilliaint electoral victory.
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Hope you enjoy it because in reality Dems won seats in Congress not GOP. On the Plus side you misspelled "brilliant." Shows me that you're gonna need to relearn your English and I know where that's going to be- House of Mouse as in Disneyland.

Posted by: beeker25 | November 5, 2009 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Do you really think Jim Webb is afraid of Allen, Bolling and (!) KEN CUCINELLI?

You simply can't be serious.

Webb is a former Republican, he has been an amazingly (and sometime frustratingly)moderate Democrat, he has really established himself as a respected member of the Senate, and he can probably raise himself a ton of cash, quickly, if he needs to.

Bolling and -- particularly -- Cucinelli won because of who was on the top of the ticket. One is a bozo and the other just a nut.

And Maccaca?

As an opinionist there is a fine line between being glib and being silly. You are crossing that line with this analysis.

Posted by: Losercuda | November 5, 2009 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Palin was always best suited for a role in the media. I'm thinking a Hannity-like talker on Fox.

I like the new name I keep hearing for the Palin-inspired right wing of the GOP:

"American Taliban"

Posted by: Samson151 | November 5, 2009 12:48 PM | Report abuse

@Blarg - Agreed. I think Jake finally gave up when he wasn't able to get anyone to engage with him. Drindl, broadwayjoe, G&T, anyone else... Just say no.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | November 5, 2009 12:48 PM | Report abuse

A woman like Palin always proves to be any guy's worst nightmare. With all the old white guys in the Republican Party sniffing after her it is any wonder they are lossing big time.

Posted by: JoeNTx | November 5, 2009 12:39 PM | Report abuse

i can see chris from my porch.
i've been away looking for my birth certificate.

The East Valley Tribune is closing. Jan Brewer is a joke.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | November 5, 2009 12:39 PM | Report abuse

The fact that Rove is crowing about health care reform as a wedge issue shows the shallowness and self interest of the Republican party -- it's all about power and winning and not about improving anything that is wrong in this country. In every single political campaign, voters tell the candidates that they are worried about the cost of health care and that they are worried about not having insurance. The democrats are actually trying to do something about it. What constructive suggestions have Rove or Palin or Steele actually put forward?

Posted by: fmjk | November 5, 2009 12:03 PM | Report abuse

okay fine, blarg. i just find him astounding. He lacks any sort of self-awareness whatsoever. It's not a joke, he may well be institutionalized for all we know -- he can't work, he's always here. And how could someone that obnoxious even function in a job?

Posted by: drindl | November 5, 2009 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Snowbama: if you're so much smarter than us Libs, try checking your spelling.

Posted by: elkofan | November 5, 2009 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Drindl: On the thread about Illinois yesterday, there are no posts between 3:21 and 4:43. (I was wrong about it being several hours, it was just 90 minutes.) I remember there were a lot of posts during that time, the usual back-and-forth between snowbama and G&T. I commented on it at the time, and my post was among the ones deleted.

This isn't difficult, people. Don't respond to snowbama. Don't copy his posts to append something about how stupid he is. Don't keep repeating the same tired jokes about him being in a mental asylum. Don't complain that he's annoying or crazy or rude. Just don't say anything. Yes, he'll keep posting, but if you don't respond it cuts down on the amount of crap in the blog, and that's a good thing.

Posted by: Blarg | November 5, 2009 11:44 AM | Report abuse

I'm THRILLED that Kirk is seeking Palin's endorsement!!! In 2004, the GOP ran a far-right candidate - Alan Keyes. The result? Barack Obama won by over 40 points.

Posted by: GordonsGirl | November 5, 2009 11:44 AM | Report abuse

The clown show continues:

'Rep. Nathan Deal (R-GA), a candidate in the GOP primary for Governor of Georgia, has announced that he is signing a letter to the White House with several of his colleagues -- asking for a copy of President Obama's birth certificate.

Deal made the announcement this morning in an online chat held by his campaign, when asked by Tom Crawford of the Georgia Report

[Comment From Tom Crawford]
Do you believe that Barack Obama is a native-born American citizen who is eligible to serve as president? I am asking because your comments on this issue have been a little ambiguous. I would appreciate your clearing this up.

Nathan Deal - I am joining several of my colleagues in the House in writing a letter to the President asking that he release a copy of his birth certificate so we can have an answer to this question."

Posted by: drindl | November 5, 2009 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Palin might help Kirk win the Republican primary but her help will kill him in the general election. Illinois Republicans who successfully win state-wide office tend to be of the moderate flavor. Not a lot of love for Sarah among the general electorate in Illinois.

Posted by: blpeyton | November 5, 2009 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Blarg, I think you can see where the problem lies.

Posted by: koolkat_1960


Loud and Dumb projects but is clearly aware of his complete idiocy.


I leave the field to you to come to terms with your ignorance and invective.
I am off to House of Mouse to celebrate our brilliaint electoral victory.

Wallow in despair Libs.

Posted by: snowbama | November 5, 2009 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Mark, I saw Hoffman as well. The photo that Chris C used a few days earlier is actually relatively flattering! And yeah, a terrible speaker and seemed to have no clue as to the issues facing the district he wanted to represent. I wonder how bad his numbers would have been after running for a month as the defacto Republican candidate instead of for just a few days.

As for Webb, I promise that Republicans will be targeting him. He barely squeaked by in an election where his opponent pretty much had to implode. Yeah, Webb is the incumbent now and he has a good track record, but that squeaker of a win should put that seat on the Republican radar. Not saying they will be able to take it, but they will devote a good amount of energy here.

And Kirk better be careful in trying to get Palin's endorsement. She wasn't too kind to the last person to hold the seat that Kirk is running for and I'm willing to bet this previous seat holder is still sort of popular there.

Posted by: DDAWD | November 5, 2009 11:25 AM | Report abuse

What time was that, blarg? I wasn't on then. Was it today's troll?

Posted by: drindl


Finally a smidgeon of self awareness. you are making progress drivl. you have realized that you are the culprit that turns this blog into a swamp. your denials ring hollow. between you, Loud and Dumb and CF8 (the previously banned), there is no room for intelligence here. the nutty perversion goes on long after the thinking crowd departs.

Because this is an ultra liberal blog, I am one of the only ones to call you out on it. Yet the fact remains. It is the three stooges who are causing this disgusting effect.

I will let the rest of you observe for yourself. I need not be here for the experiment to succeed.

Posted by: snowbama | November 5, 2009 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Blarg, I think you can see where the problem lies.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | November 5, 2009 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Good news for Dems!

'On the heels of the NY-23 special House election, in which Conservative Party insurgent Doug Hoffman overtook moderate GOP nominee Dede Scozzafava, only to lose to Democrat Bill Owens, NRSC chairman John Cornyn (R-TX) has announced that the GOP's national Senate committee will not be spending money in contested primaries.

"There's no incentive for us to weigh in," Cornyn told ABC News. "We have to look at our resources."

This could have huge ramifications in the Florida Senate race, where moderate Gov. Charlie Crist has been endorsed by the NRSC, and faces the more conservative former state House Speaker Marco Rubio. Crist has already emerged as a new top target for the same right-wing activists who went after Scozzafava.

Crist may be the officially endorsed candidate of the national GOP, but this official support won't count for much if he doesn't get actual money from the party. At best, he could be able to round up extra fundraising and endorsements, separate from the official party apparatus but thanks to its imprimatur. The campaign of the likely Democratic nominee, Rep. Kendrick Meek, sent out the story in a release today, calling the news a "major development."

Eric at Red State sez:

For all intents and purposes, NY-23 is a trial run for Florida"

hahha, go for it, losers.

Posted by: drindl | November 5, 2009 11:19 AM | Report abuse

The NRA continues to erode the safety of children:

'The National Rifle Association is pushing legislation to ban adoption agencies from asking potential parents if they have guns and ammunition in the home.'

Sick, sick, sick.

Posted by: drindl | November 5, 2009 11:17 AM | Report abuse

What time was that, blarg? I wasn't on then. Was it today's troll?

Posted by: drindl | November 5, 2009 11:15 AM | Report abuse

amazing that loony right wingnuts have instantly transformed into reasonable moderates the minute they win the election.

you libs are daffy.

I see stooge two has arrived. the spin into the sewer is now complete.

Posted by: snowbama | November 5, 2009 11:12 AM | Report abuse

"The truly fascinating part is that there are people out there who think that the solution to furute GOP success is to go harder right.

Two moderate GOP campaigns won Tuesday. The Palinista candidate lost. What should we do? Go Full-Palin!!!

The mind, it boggles."

And to think that formerly moderate candidates in two of the most liberal states in the country have decided to go Full Palin/Teabag. Crazy.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | November 5, 2009 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Yesterday, several hours of posts were deleted, because they were full of personal insults and pointless arguing. It would be nice if certain people learned their lesson from that, but I'm not holding my breath.

Posted by: Blarg | November 5, 2009 11:05 AM | Report abuse

What strikes me about politics over the past couple of years is how obvious it all has been. In 2008, as the junior senator from Illinois campaigned across the country, demonstrating his gifts as a motivational speaker and community organizer, all one had to do was review his recent life to know that he was about to bring down on the country -- ever so incompetently -- the most left-wing government in American history. And so he has -- with the utmost incompetence. Think of the paucity of swine flu vaccine, in large part the consequence of his government's meddling with production.

Posted by: snowbama | November 5, 2009 11:04 AM | Report abuse

"Sarah Palin has sadly failed to add to the success of any contests she has weighed in on, but she has sure shown she can close the door on some contestants.

She's gained divisive influence over a contracting and radicalizing party... part of that marginalizing trend."

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The truly fascinating part is that there are people out there who think that the solution to furute GOP success is to go harder right.

Two moderate GOP campaigns won Tuesday. The Palinista candidate lost. What should we do? Go Full-Palin!!!

The mind, it boggles.

Posted by: VTDuffman | November 5, 2009 11:01 AM | Report abuse

drivl has been predicting violence in every gathering. so far not a single hit. Perhaps you should look to the loony left, thay are the ones who like to break things, especially the economy.

Posted by: snowbama | November 5, 2009 10:59 AM | Report abuse

In politics, you can gain influence by having the power to take away even if you can't bring anything to the table.

Sarah Palin has sadly failed to add to the success of any contests she has weighed in on, but she has sure shown she can close the door on some contestants.

She's gained divisive influence over a contracting and radicalizing party... part of that marginalizing trend.

Posted by: AsperGirl | November 5, 2009 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Sounds like drivl:

MSNBC, Aug. 31, 2009, Keith Olbermann on Robert F. McDonnell, Republican candidate for governor of Virginia:

"In (McDonnell's master's thesis), he described women having jobs as detrimental to the family, called legalized use of contraception illogical, pushed to make divorce more difficult, and insisted government should favor married couples over, quote, 'cohabitators, homosexuals or fornicators.' Wow. When did he write this? 1875? No, 1989. Wow, 1989.

"Goodbye, Mr. McDonnell."

MSNBC, Sept. 22, 2009, Rachel Maddow also on McDonnell:

"And here's where the conservative movement and the Republican establishment smash into each other like bumper cars without bumpers. Here's where Republican electoral chances stop being separate from the wild-eyed excesses of the conservative movement.

"Part of watching Republicans try to return to power is watching ... the conservative movement eat the Republican Party, eat their electoral chances over and over and over again."

On election night, conservatives-eating-Republicans resulted in an 18-point landslide for McDonnell, who beat his Democratic opponent 59 percent to 41 percent -- winning two-thirds of all independent voters and ending the Democrats' eight-year reign in the Virginia governor's office.

Republicans swept all statewide offices for the first time in 12 years, winning the races for lieutenant governor and attorney general, as well as assembly seats, garbage inspector, dog catcher and anything else Virginians could vote for.

To paraphrase a pompous blowhard: Goodbye, Mr. Democrat.


The biggest winner election night was pollster Scott Rasmussen, who -- once again -- produced the most accurate poll results. New York Times poll: Corzine 40, Christie 37; Quinnipiac poll: Corzine 43, Christie 38; Rasmussen poll: Christie 46, Corzine 43.

The biggest loser was President Obama, who campaigned tirelessly for Corzine, even giving up golf on several occasions and skipping a quarter-million-dollar "date night" with Michelle to stump for the Democrat.

Just two days before the election, Obama was at a rally in New Jersey assuring voters that Corzine was "one of the best partners I have in the White House. We work together. ... Jon Corzine helped get this done."

Except the problem is that voting for Obama a year ago was a fashion statement, much like it was once a fad to buy Beanie Babies, pet rocks and Cabbage Patch Kids. But instead of ending up with a ridiculous dust-collector at the bottom of your closet, the Obama fad leaves you with higher taxes, a reduced retirement fund, no job and a one-year wait for an MRI.

Posted by: snowbama | November 5, 2009 10:56 AM | Report abuse

"If you are in a situation were your words and actions lead to violence in an immediate fashion, you have gone beyond your free speech rights.

All of this is prelude to the event which will happen today. Rep. Michelle Bachman (R-Crazytown) will be leading a rally of "Teabaggers" on the steps of the Capital today. She will then lead these folks into the halls of Congress to "see the whites of their eyes".

Rep. Bachman is not one to be...circumspect with her rhetoric. She is the Representative who said she is "reporting from behind enemy lines" from Washington. She first came to the spot light on the Chris Matthews Show when she urged the national press core to investigate which members of Congress had "Anti-American views". She has urged the people of her district to "rise up" against "gangster governments".

This is the Representive who will be speaking to a crowd of Teabaggers and then leading them into the Congress. Given that we have seen just how on the fringe some of the Teabaggers can be, given that some of the radical right are unclear as to where it is appropriate to carry guns and where it crosses the line into political intimidation, is there anyone else out there who thinks this might end badly?

There is at least one Senator who does carry a concealed weapon, Sen. Webb, however, this is probably a super rare exception. This means it is rather unlikely any of Rep. Bachman’s Teabaggers will be armed. This does not prevent the chance of things getting out of hand and out of control, but it does mean gun play in the halls of Congress is unlikely today.

The question becomes, if the worst happens, if Rep. Bachman gets her protestors spun up with talk of rebellion and up raisings, then leads them in to Congress where they do something violent, where is her level of culpability?

It is one thing to advocate insurrection. Case law from the Supreme Court has protected this, as long as there is no immediate action. It is one thing to talk the eliminationist crap the right has been spouting for years. But when you take a group primed on this, when you give them a red meat speech, then take them to confront the very people you have called Anti-American, the people who you have told them want to put Republicans in internment camps using Census data, the people who you have said will set up "Death Panels"; this all seems to get beyond speech and into action."

Posted by: drindl | November 5, 2009 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Oh if only we Repubs were as non-thinking and willing to swallow any lie like the Dems. We could be all one big happy family content with the notion that speeches and chanting is the solution to all our problems.

Hmmmmmmmm

Hmmmmmmm

Hmmmm

One year in, nothing to show for it except electoral defeat. good going Libs. you are living up to your capabilities.

Posted by: snowbama | November 5, 2009 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Poor yellowsnow. Nothing to contribute, so has to obssess with other posters. Get a life, stalker.

Oh sorry, I forgot they won't let him leave the locked ward.

Posted by: drindl | November 5, 2009 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Opps, sorry, Mark, had not read your post!

And I forgot the stake!

Posted by: drindl | November 5, 2009 10:50 AM | Report abuse

drivl doesn't even bother to cut and paste from other sites any longer. she simply takes my stuff and changes one name. this is brilliant on its face. how else could she appear to be so witty with the level of intelligence God gave her.

But the barnyard animals were impressed.

with only one stooge, this thread is still somewhat manageable. Only a matter of time before the "Blog Clog" arrives and spoils everything.

Posted by: snowbama | November 5, 2009 10:48 AM | Report abuse

Once again, the memo that eveyone else in the media seems to have gotten:

"A rebounding Republican Party is savoring victories in two states that President Obama won last year, but as it tries to build momentum toward what GOP Chairman Michael S. Steele called a "Republican renaissance," it faces troubling ideological fissures within its ranks over how best to reclaim power.

As the party turns toward the 2010 midterm elections, pitched battles between moderates and conservatives -- and between the Washington establishment and the conservative grass roots -- are underway from Florida to Illinois to California. Conservative activists, emboldened after forcing out the moderate Republican nominee in a New York congressional race, said they will fan out nationwide and challenge Republican candidates whom they deem too moderate or insufficiently principled.

In response, some candidates are laboring to shed their moderate credentials to survive bruising primary battles. In Illinois, Rep. Mark Kirk, a moderate whom party leaders embrace as the best hope for an open Senate seat, wrote to an adviser to former Alaska governor Sarah Palin (R) seeking her endorsement -- an effort to preempt the kind of revolt Palin helped lead against moderate Dede Scozzafava in the race in New York's 23rd Congressional District.

In Connecticut, GOP Senate candidate and former congressman Rob Simmons, regarded in Congress as a New England moderate, is linking himself to the tea party movement and carries a tea bag in his pocket along with a copy of the Constitution to try to fend off conservative primary challengers."

Hilarious. Does he even know how fetishistic and cultish this is? Kind of like carrying around garlic to ward off bloocksuckers. Actually, that's exactly what it is.

Posted by: drindl | November 5, 2009 10:48 AM | Report abuse

It would be a bummer for the Ds if the CfG looked past the 23rdCD to the lesson from Virginia. You can win running a right wing candidate as a moderate in a purple environment so long as s/he has not had to carve out hard right credentials in a primary.

I can't wait for the battles in Florida and Texas. Republican primaries in places where the Republican simply has to run as a moderate in the general will be most destructive. So Rubio and Crist will fall over each other trying to lick Sarah's feet? Perry will, KBH won't, I just can't wait for the demolition derby.

Posted by: shrink2 | November 5, 2009 10:44 AM | Report abuse

I see the barking mad moonbat is up in arms that constituents might want to have a word with their representatives before they hand over the economy to the bumblers in government.

you just can't get any more ignorant than the email list she is signed onto.

Here is the record of success in government intervention:

clunkers: pay 29k for a 5k car
jobs: pay 189K for each 50K job
housing: pay 126K for 8K of credit
Amtrak: pay 50 bucks for each passenger

Need I go on?

Posted by: snowbama | November 5, 2009 10:44 AM | Report abuse

Rick Moran

Nancy Pelosi's analysis of how the Democrats fared on election night is priceless. Not only did Madam Speaker actually dig deeply into the manure pile to find that pony, but she shamelessly lied twice in the process.

Jim Hoft:


They lost the Virginia gubanatorial race by 18 points in a state Barack Obama won by 6 points last year.
They lost the New Jersey gubanatorial race by 4 points in a state Barack Obama won by 15 pointslast year.

But, facts don't matter to Speaker Nancy Pelosi
She celebrated today saying, "We won last night."
"From our perspective, we won last night," the California Democrat told reporters during a Wednesday photo op. "We had one race that we were engaged in, it was in northern New York, it was a race where a Republican has held the seat since the Civil War. And we won that seat. So, from our standpoint, no, a candidate was victorious who supports health care reform, and his remarks last night said this was a victory for health care reform and other initiatives for the American people."


She's still ready to ram that nationalized health care bill through the House this week.

UPDATE: 2 lies in 1 statement.
As pointed out below. Democrat Bill Owens campaigned against the public option.
Pelosi was lying.

And, Democrat Michael R. McNulty represented NY-23 from 1989-1993.
But, it sounds better when you say "the first time since the Civil War."


It appears that the Speaker of the House is auditioning for Disney's remake of Pollyanna. Or maybe Pinocchio. Perhaps not the latter since she's had so many surgeries on her nose, instead of growing whenever she tells a lie it would probably fall off.

I really envy people who can go to that special, make believe fantasy place in their minds when life deals you a horrible blow. No doubt if Ms. Pelosi actually confronted what happened to her party on Tuesday night, her head would have been in danger of exploding.

I guess we'll have to wait for that spectacle until health care reform goes down to defeat.

Posted by: snowbama | November 5, 2009 10:36 AM | Report abuse

"I listened to an interview of the CfG honcho. Their attitude is pretty much that there would is little difference between Scozzafava and Owens, so nothing was lost by torpedoing her."

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What did you expect them to say? "Everything we were pushing got killed?" I mean, that's what happened, between their NY-23 Race, and their ME ballot initiatives (which just got absolutely murdered), but they're not actually going to *say* that.

The CfG lost gave the DNC a seat that was held by the GOP for 140 years. They can sit here and tell me that those grapes were probably sour anyway, but the results speak for themselves.

Posted by: VTDuffman | November 5, 2009 10:33 AM | Report abuse

For anyone in DC today--

"Okay, sorry for the abrupt call to attention. But we need your help with something.

We're going to be covering Michele Bachmann's Capitol Hill Tea Party/Town Hall event tomorrow. Not just the rally outside the building but whatever it is that's going to happen inside afterwards, with Bachmann leading the protestors through the halls looking for members of Congress who might vote for health care reform. We're going to have one, probably two reporters on the scene.

But it's an awfully big network of buildings. And they can't be everywhere. If this summer's town halls are any indication, it's going to be quite a scene. And we're already picking up indications that the crowd is being primed with stories of Nancy Pelosi getting the Capitol police to crack down on the protestors. Sort of a heady mindset going in, you might say. And there will be a lot you see that we won't.

So can you help be our eyes and ears? Whatever you see, ping us at the comments email address up at the upper right. Your anonymity, as always, is guaranteed.'

go here to find email address:

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2009/11/hill_staffers_listen_up.php?ref=fpblg

Posted by: drindl | November 5, 2009 10:32 AM | Report abuse

The news of the November 03, 2009 elections did contain some very welcome and happy outcomes for conservative Americans. Probably the most joyous was the stunned silence of the Obama ‘MOUTH’ machine. Not having to watch him take over another microphone in front of a TV camera puffing his head up into the skies and telling us how great he and his programs are was indeed a treat.

Posted by: snowbama | November 5, 2009 10:31 AM | Report abuse

The RNC is encouraging members of Congress to show up at noon at the Capitol Hill Tea Party event. But they're at pains to tell members not to call it a "protest" or a "rally." It's a "press event" or "press conference."

Meanwhile the people actually organizing the event are calling it a "desperate act" and a "last stand" in the fight against death panels and socialism. In other words, Rep. Bachmann and her fellow rally organizers have attendees ginned up for some kind of anti-Health Care Reform Alamo.

On one level it's an entertaining example of channel conflict. But it's also a revealing, real-time illustration of the struggle within the GOP to control and define and tame anti-reform activism.

Remember, if you're on the Hill today, if you're a staffer, whatever, help us keep track of what's happening. Check out this post from last night for how to keep us posted in real time on what you're seeing as the protestors fan out through the halls looking for members of Congress who are trying to take away their health care."

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/

Posted by: drindl | November 5, 2009 10:30 AM | Report abuse

Chris,

As I mentioned yesterday, the Mark Kirk news is somewhat disturbing. If he 'does a T-Paw' (re: his unofficial litmus test for R.s such as Olympia Snowe) and moves farther towards the extreme right, he's not going to convince many on the far right and it's going to make it harder than ever to beat Lexi G.

The R.s are slow learners. If the Palin/Dick Armey faction (and the ultraconservative base) are going to extract this step-to-the-right for the primary, then step-back-to-the-centre for the general two-step from many candidates, TV is going to have to do a 'Dancing with the Stars' spinoff called 'Dancing with the Losers'!

It's not fair on the better (quality, not firebrand) R. candidates to do this to them. Additionally, they lose all credibility with their constituents.

Posted by: sverigegrabb | November 5, 2009 10:29 AM | Report abuse

what else would ugly, shrill AND stupid snowbama write?

Posted by: drindl | November 5, 2009 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Meanwhile the wing of the asylum scares away its last few viewers:

MSNBC's 'Countdown' Goes
Drag to Rip Sarah Palin
Newsbusters, by Jeff Poor

Stay classy, MSNBC. On the day after the Republican Party showed gains in a few statewide elections and with key health care and cap-and-trade legislation pending, MSNBC went back to the well to do what it does best - attack the character of one of the network's favorite targets, former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin

Posted by: snowbama | November 5, 2009 10:27 AM | Report abuse

headlines from the real world:

Permanent Democratic majority ’ begins to unravel
It's called voter revulsion and it works.

'We got walloped'
Dem activists say candidates didn't hug him enough. Nancy Pelosi claps tiny hands like the girl with the real pony. Obama says....nothing.


So much Obama damage control,
that David Axelrod even talks to Fox News
Defeat so humiliating, gloomy, grumpy and thoroughly unpleasant Axelrod is forced to speak to "an arm of the Republican National Committee."

Posted by: snowbama | November 5, 2009 10:26 AM | Report abuse

semi- attractive women who are not too bright

what else would ugly, shrill AND stupid write?

Posted by: snowbama | November 5, 2009 10:25 AM | Report abuse

It wasn't a column about Sarah, just a paragraph (written to tick off the commenters on the left). I saw the leader and thought Oh boy, drindl and bwjoe are going to blow gaskets over this one!

With regards to NY23, a right winger who didn't know the district's issues still managed to get 45% in a moderate district. Had a primary been held, I suspect that a stronger conservative candidate would have emerged. I'm sure Palin's fairly satisfied. I listened to an interview of the CfG honcho. Their attitude is pretty much that there would is little difference between Scozzafava and Owens, so nothing was lost by torpedoing her.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | November 5, 2009 10:20 AM | Report abuse

"is it possible that the Repbulican Party just likes her because she is pretty? Could it be that superficial? i just don't get it."

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Yes.

Posted by: VTDuffman | November 5, 2009 10:19 AM | Report abuse

The rightwingers have a real fondness for semi- attractive women who are not too bright and willing to spew totally loony stuff. There's a few -- Sarah, Ann Coulter, Michelle Bachman, probably others I am forgetting.

"She's funny, but not when she's trying to be. " Mostly all she has to do is open her mouth.

Posted by: drindl | November 5, 2009 10:18 AM | Report abuse

I don't get it. What is this womans appeal? I don't think McCain would have beaten Obama last year no matter who was his VP candidate, but she took him out of the running completely. She isn't a great or even good speaker. She isn't particularly smart. She's funny, but not when she's trying to be. Her ethics record is horrendous. What is it the Republicans like about her? If it's because she is a woman, Kay Bailey Hutchinson would be a better leader. If it is her conservative values" Lindsay Graham would be better. is it possible that the Repbulican Party just likes her because she is pretty? Could it be that superficial? i just don't get it.

Posted by: elijah24 | November 5, 2009 10:12 AM | Report abuse

I wonder why CC is ignoring crazy Michelle Bachman and her Pitchfork Crusade today?:

"In a conference call Wednesday night with bloggers and activists for the front group Americans for Prosperity, Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) called on protesters to “scare” members of Congress into killing the proposed health care reform bill.

“Nothing scares members of Congress more than freedom-loving Americans,” Bachmann said.

She said that members were frightened by the August town hall meetings, but “then they came back to Washington, and they got back in the bubble and Speaker Pelosi put the hammer down on the Democrats.”

Last Thursday, she said that in desperation at the prospect of health care legislation passing, she happened upon the idea of a spontaneous meet-up of opponents of the bill on the steps of the Capitol.

Republican organizers are planning for activists to go into the House office buildings and the U.S. Capitol and confront members directly after a press conference at noon.

Bachmann expressed confidence that such efforts would stultify the Democrats’ efforts.

“I think that will absolutely scare these members of Congress so much that Pelosi will not get the votes and it will kill the bill. I think it could be dead for 10 years. Why won’t we? Why won’t we go for broke?”

Last Thursday, Bachmann said she appealed to Republicans but “the conference didn’t pick it up.” The following day, she decided to take matters in her own hands and made her plea directly to Fox News viewers on Sean Hannity’s program. On Saturday, Bachmann said she received a call from actor Jon Voight who offered to join her in Washington, followed by a similar call from conservative talk-show host Mark Levin.

Backmann reasserted a claim that Pelosi was considering tightening security in preparation for the activists, which she warned "would be a huge mistake."

Yeah, birnging a lot of armed loonies into Congress to 'scare' members is really such a good idea. .. this woman is out of control and eventually the leadership is going to have to do somethng to keep her from getting people killed.

Posted by: drindl | November 5, 2009 10:09 AM | Report abuse

Karl Rove is Hilarious. Voters won't stand for runaway spending and government expansion, eh? Gee, those two terms don't remind me of a single recent administration that the ol' Rover was involved with, does it?

Republicans are so predictable, it's silly. "The things that were OK when we were in power are now not OK!"

Posted by: VTDuffman | November 5, 2009 10:05 AM | Report abuse

It seems that Sarah didn't get the memo that there was an election two days ago.

-Writing on Facebook early Wednesday morning, the former Alaska governor praised Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffman and "all the other under-dog candidates who have the courage to put themselves out there and run against the odds."

"The race for New York's 23rd District is not over, just postponed until 2010," Palin wrote. "The issues of this election have always centered on the economy – on the need for fiscal restraint, smaller government, and policies that encourage jobs. In 2010, these issues will be even more crucial to the electorate."

Posted by: AndyR3 | November 5, 2009 10:00 AM | Report abuse

Senator John McCain is a honorable man, but Americans have him to blame for Sarah Palin.

Posted by: rogden71 | November 5, 2009 9:55 AM | Report abuse

In your winners and losers for the Virginia race, you still haven't talked much about the Democratic managers and consultants. There are a handful of very well paid staff and advisors that did a terrible job this time around. The folks who ran Deeds campaign- Joe Abbey and Monica Dixon- have been praised in this paper before. Maybe a loss was inevitable given other factors, but the loss was so bad that it wiped out Democratic gains in the House that folks worked to get for a long time. This is going to have longterm consequences and not sure why these managers haven't been rightly pointed out.

Posted by: ChrisD4 | November 5, 2009 9:52 AM | Report abuse

I continue to be astonished at Cris Cillizza's tin ear when it comes to the power and influence of Sarah Palin. So far, every national election she has been affiliated with have ended up in the losing column. And I still cannot understand why the media--so utterly infatuated wioth the NY23rd before the election--are now treating like some decaying dead skunk on the sidewalk.

Look. At what point Chris does it become apparent to you and others in the media that SDarah Palin's indorsement amounts to the kiss of death?

Posted by: jaxas | November 5, 2009 9:47 AM | Report abuse

I'd like to see the list of Republicans someone thinks can take down Jim Webb.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | November 5, 2009 9:44 AM | Report abuse

Here's the real story you keep not wanting to see because it doesn't fit your 'Loonies Rising' Scenario - R party leaders trying to keep the crazies from rebelling:

"Despite Mr. Hoffman’s loss, many conservatives promised to press on with opposition to centrist Republican candidates. That vow intensified concerns among party leaders that the opportunities they see coming out of Tuesday’s results could be dimmed by intramural battles over whether to reach for the political center or do more to motivate the base on the party’s right.

“When our party is united, whether you run in a Northern state or a Southern state, our party can win,” said the House Republican whip, Representative Eric Cantor of Virginia. “But when you are divided, you can lose a seat that has been in the Republican column for quite a long time.”

The debate has been fueled by a somewhat inchoate populist anger that has taken hold among grass-roots conservatives, encouraged in part by political leaders like Sarah Palin, the party’s vice-presidential nominee last year, and commentators like Glenn Beck of Fox News. In that sense, the divisions within the party extend beyond the traditional strains between the shrinking ranks of Republican moderates and the social and economic conservatives who have dominated the party in recent years.

The situation is all the more complicated because, after the party’s defeats in 2008, it has no dominant leaders or cohesive establishment to bridge the divides and help articulate a positive agenda. In that vacuum, the conservative activists and party leaders were both jockeying for advantage on Wednesday."

Posted by: drindl | November 5, 2009 9:44 AM | Report abuse

Good God, another column about ditzy Sarah. Will there be one every day now, CC?

Posted by: drindl | November 5, 2009 9:39 AM | Report abuse

Mark, The column in the NYT was priceless.

CC, Do you think there's a link between John Sterling and the Teabaggers? Loud, over-the-top, unable to actually call the game, so hey, shouting works.

The next governor whose head will roll - NY's own Yankees fan, David Paterson who can't even manage to go to the World Series without highlighting his ineptitude http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/03/nyregion/03paterson.html?emc=eta1

With any luck, the Democratic primary will take care of him before he has to face a Republican challenger, but I'm wondering, given her success in NY 23, whom do you think Sarah will choose to run for NY governor in 2010?

Posted by: -pamela | November 5, 2009 9:38 AM | Report abuse

My affinity for Newt is not sudden. He helped us out immensely and tirelessly when we were pups in the DC scene.

He is brilliant albeit garrulous.

Posted by: snowbama | November 5, 2009 9:37 AM | Report abuse

Another half million workers jobless this week.

Welcome to Obamanomics. Now get in line. It will prepare you for his other programs.

Posted by: snowbama | November 5, 2009 9:33 AM | Report abuse

Mark. Don't confuse dem voters with actual thinking voters though. A dem candidate is qualified simply by reading speeches from teleprompters and dressing nicely. Experience in anything useful not necessary. We see the failure of that model.

I would like to think that voters are not that shallow. I could be wrong. I was once before.

Obama picked this exact seat for a reason. No bench, no organization, no primary, local yokels. He is an expert at not running in actual fair elections. It describes his own climb.

Posted by: snowbama | November 5, 2009 9:29 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, it speaks volumes about Club for Growth money and Fox News support in a small race.

Suddenly snowclue is a Gingrich lover. Newt's candidate dropped out and endorsed the DEMOCRAT, thanks to conservative wingnuts.

Posted by: mikenmidland | November 5, 2009 9:22 AM | Report abuse

You may be surprised at WH accounting. In a desperate attempt to find a single first success, Barry has included anyone who got a raise at their current job as one of his stimulus Saved jobs.

I know libs like making up new words and adding numbers in funny ways but this is just laughable.

Posted by: snowbama | November 5, 2009 9:21 AM | Report abuse

I was going to point out that Palin's endorsement did not cost the R candidate the race in NY-23. Hoffman got 45% in a race he wouldn't have had a chance in without Palin and C4G.

But then, he wasn't the R candidate. So, yes, Palin's endorsement of Hoffman DID cost Scozzafava the race.

One endorsement, two losers. Way to go, Sarah!

Posted by: mikenmidland | November 5, 2009 9:17 AM | Report abuse

I did notice that Hoffman seemed like some cartoon character of a total nerd. The bad teeth, the lazy eye, the cheap suits, the halting talk, the slouch. Nevertheless, to come within striking distance in such a short time with virtually no party support or polish against the hand picked situation designed by local and national dem operatives speaks volumes.

The swing in independent voters is the story. Not only is it not a new dem dominated world and repubs not expired, but a new sensibility era is arriving after the hubristic liberals cut their own throats.

I am from the Gingrich school. Win every seat that will vote for boehner.

Posted by: snowbama | November 5, 2009 9:15 AM | Report abuse

The reason Hoffman polled as well as he did is that there was no time for the voters in the CD to know anything about him other than what they were being told by their TV channel. And of course there are bloc votes, people who vote the D or the R regardless of whether they have heard the name next to the letter.

Posted by: shrink2 | November 5, 2009 9:14 AM | Report abuse

Kendrick Meek is not much of a candidate. He's quite young and unproven -- he has had things handed to him so far. He needs some time in the trenches of Congress working for legislation and gaining experience. Surely there are some more experienced Democrats in Flordia who could fill out the primary.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | November 5, 2009 9:12 AM | Report abuse

HA! I'm a democrat and an atheist, but I am praying that Palin endorses all the Republicans - she is a trainwreck and most people are sick to death of her.

Posted by: sux123 | November 5, 2009 9:07 AM | Report abuse

So the CBO rated the repubs cost 5000 less per family less than the lib takeover. Less money from taxpayers too.

Typical.

Posted by: snowbama | November 5, 2009 9:03 AM | Report abuse

Here is another laugher from the New York Times:

"That means that Mr. Obama and Democrats in Congress should not draw the wrong conclusion and get timid about vital tasks like health care reform or more stimulus spending to ensure that any recovery also creates more jobs. At some point, they are going to have to bite the bullet and raise taxes to pay for all of this."

People are slowly catching on to the idea that the health industry stimulus package is a jobs program. It isn't quite the CCC, but someone is going to have to generate, deliver, manage, audit, distribute and so on all that health care.

But that last sentence? Raise taxes to pay for it all? Whaaa? These health care jobs are supposed to pay for themselves. Of course, no one I know in health care has a job that pays for itself, but this is like magic, it does not add a dime to the deficit and it will not require taxes.
That was a promise.

Posted by: shrink2 | November 5, 2009 9:01 AM | Report abuse

Andy, shrink, and KOZ,

re Hoffman: did you actually see and hear the guy? No presence and no clue. It is amazing that he got any votes. It is amazing that he was chosen, by anyone. I do not think a person with less spark exists outside a depression ward. If he got 45%, a living breathing person saying the same message should have won handily. "Night of the Living Dead" came to mind when I saw him speak on "The Daily Show".

I know those voters are taciturn compared with urban dwellers, but you could drive a freight train through Hoffman's pauses. Goodhair says dumb stuff, but he is personable and has a sense of humor, and he has only a 36% favorable rating in TX. I would have thought a Second Coming endorsement could not have helped Hoffman in the Bible Belt. Age of television? Heck, Hoffman almost turned the premise of the great Redford movie "The Candidate" on its ear.

I posted a similar message on a previous thread and margaret analogized Hoffman to a new romance; good for a six week high. Maybe. I tend to think that that CD, like TX, has so much animosity toward DC that all votes were protests. Owens is about as blue a blue dog as they come, like another special election term blue dog, Nick Lampson here in TX. If that CD still exists in 2010 it goes back to the Rs.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | November 5, 2009 8:59 AM | Report abuse

What ever happened to the thrice daily obimbo tv appearances? Did he finally realize that every time he opened his mouth to spout hollow promises and flaky accounting that his ratings went down?

It is clear now that cap and tax is totally dead. The health care take over is in peril too. Deadlines slipping, numbers faked, blue dogs running scared. Obama must be too busy going over the budget line by line to decide anything about the next step in international surrender and humiliation.

Maybe a break is in order. Take in a movie about himself. Play some golf. Take another vacation. All that hoping must be tiring.

Posted by: snowbama | November 5, 2009 8:57 AM | Report abuse

Don't know whether candidates should be seeking out Phalin's endorsement:

Wisely, McDonnell declined Phalin's offer to campaign for him in Virginia, a decision many believe was critical to his win on Tuesday. And "Conservative" Hoffman in NY-23 got a full-throated Wasilla endorsement from Phalin (and the VonBrunn wing of the GOP) before he lost badly to Democrat Owens despite the fact everyone in the MSM said Hoffman would win going away.

In regard to "courting," the Phalin/Gregory Charles Royal encounter didn't go too well...allegedly...according to widely reported accounts.

________

"Loser: Sen. Jim Webb (D) who is up for reelection in 2012 and faces a re-energized Republican Party with many names jockeying for the top few slots."

What internal GOP memo is this "analysis" from? "Born Fighting" military veteran Jim Webb will be surprised to find out the Fox (formerly the Fix) has pronounced him a "loser." Based on what, who knows--guess that will be in the GOP's followup internal memo?

Posted by: broadwayjoe | November 5, 2009 8:53 AM | Report abuse

We can hope; running to the right in the primary will mean the political death of the Republicans who can't figure out what just happened.

There is no way McDonnell could have repudiated his "thesis", complemented Obama and ignore the right wing social issues in the general had he had to go through a challenge from the right in a primary.

Posted by: shrink2 | November 5, 2009 8:48 AM | Report abuse

Jim Webb's a solid senator and will be difficult to beat. I don't see him replacing Biden as he already stated a lack of interest when Obama was conducting casting calls.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | November 5, 2009 8:44 AM | Report abuse

PPD: THE MIND FLU OF GRASSROOTS GESTAPO SWINE?

No, CC, Kirk's plea for a Palin endorsement is evidence only of his poor judgment and incapacity for rational political analysis. Please don't let "Palin Personality Disorder" skew yours.

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GOV'T TORTURES ME WITH SILENT MICROWAVE WEAPONS, SAYS OUSTED HONDURAS PREZ

• Deposed Honduras President Manuel Zelaya confirms the essence what unjustly targeted citizens worldwide -- including this journalist -- have been reporting for years...

...MILITARY, SECRET SERVICES, AND INTEL AGENCIES of many nations, including the U.S., silently assault and torture "targeted individuals," including those regarded as "dissenters" or slandered as undesirables, with debilitating, health-degrading, "slow-kill" electromagnetic microwave and laser radiation weapons systems -- reported to include a nationwide installation camouflaged as cell towers, along with satellites and portable weaponry.

JOURNO TO FBI: SEIZE CONTROL OF DHS-RUN FUSION CENTERS
TO STOP SILENT MICROWAVE / LASER ATTACKS ON U.S. CITIZENS

http://nowpublic.com/world/govt-tortures-me-silent-microwave-weapons-ousted-s-prez
http://nowpublic.com/world/gestapo-usa-govt-funded-vigilante-network-terrorizes-america OR (if links are corrupted / disabled): http://NowPublic.com/scrivener RE: "GESTAPO USA"

Posted by: scrivener50 | November 5, 2009 8:30 AM | Report abuse

Cc. Did your blog fall into some sort of demented leftist hole yesterday? The usual suspects have no grounding in reality. One flamer in particular has turned the evening shift into some sort of tabloid. There must be some way to cut out the soap opera antics.

Good reporting this morning. A good gathering of facts. You have been busy.

Posted by: snowbama | November 5, 2009 8:29 AM | Report abuse

Re: Sarah Palin endorsement -- you are all looney. Her endorement guranteed that the R candidate in NY's 23 would lose. Any candidate who courts or is afraid of her endoresement should not be running for anything.

Chris, what IS YOUR PROBLEM on this? Yesterday you gave her winner and loser, but she showed to be only a loser (oh, except for cashing in -- but that's the American way, right?).

Posted by: lrb100 | November 5, 2009 8:23 AM | Report abuse

Andy,
I do not think that Webb is in trouble, but he will not break the 60% mark for his re-election.
Lamont faces an uphill battle, but it is not impossible. He has remained very visible in CT politics and championed liberal causes. That might help in the primary. My greater concern would be the general election where more moderate Democrats might vote for the Republican, if they put up a good candidate.

Posted by: trep1 | November 5, 2009 8:10 AM | Report abuse

BTW, Ned Lamont doesn't have a showball's chance in hades to even win the Democratic primary in connecticut. He only beat Liebermann because Democrats were SO upset with him.

Also my in-laws have very good things to say about Terry Goddard, and wish they could get Napolitano back in a bad way.

Also Jim Webb is extremely well liked in VA, and in 2012 he will be running with Obama on the ticket which will bring out the black vote in a major way. My estimate is that Webb wins with 62% of the vote.

Posted by: AndyR3 | November 5, 2009 7:57 AM | Report abuse

Mark that article is hilarious.

But I have to disagree with you that the running to the right of Kirk and Simmons will not come back to haunt them. Illinois and Connecticut are very BLUE states, and the only way that a republican wins is to be a true moderate (see Jodi Rell). And independents do not like Palin. She makes the far-right go into hysterics but the majority of americans are afraid of the Tea-baggers and the agenda that they represent.

Mark my words any major politician that embraces the far-right will go down in flames next November, especially since all economic indicators are looking up, including the new unemployment applications which is estimated to be its lowest in 17 months this friday. As I have said before when the unemployment percentage begins to go down in April the Democrats will make a huge resurgence and, IMO, will crush the republicans. This is especially true if the GOP continues to move further and further to the right.

I think the GOP needs to start making the argument that President Obama and the democrats need a strong moderate GOP to force them to come to the middle on major legislative issues. Lindsey Graham, Liebermann, and Kerry's efforts to pass the climate change bill will be one important step in that process, as will Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins voting for the healthcare package with a trigger for the public option.

Now I could be wrong and the country may wake up tomorrow and want to repeal abortion rights, ban homosexuality, eliminate income taxes, and elect Sarah Palin Queen of the True America, but at least for now the polling doesn't say we are headed down that direction.

Posted by: AndyR3 | November 5, 2009 7:52 AM | Report abuse

Funnier than a humor column, more trenchant than CNN, able to leap tall buildings in a single bound:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/05/opinion/05collins.html?_r=1

Posted by: mark_in_austin | November 5, 2009 7:20 AM | Report abuse

I think Kirk's idea works at the primary level and has no echo in a general. If SHP endorsed him early it would limit any challenge to him from the right. It would not lose him any significant vote in a GE, if he ran to the middle.

Like Rob Simmons in CT, Kirk should carry a teabag and a pocket copy of the Constitution wherever he goes during a contested primary - and perhaps some garlic and a honed and hardened pointed oak stick.

I assume that running right will be R primary strategy everywhere in '10.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | November 5, 2009 6:41 AM | Report abuse

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