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Morning Fix: ACORN -- How Much Danger For Democrats?

The ongoing controversy over the community organizing group ACORN -- spurred by several undercover videos shot for a conservative blog known as biggovernment.com -- has emboldened Republicans to use the group's troubles as a political cudgel against Democrats.

"If the Democrats continue to ignore the apparent fraud taking place with taxpayer money, they will pay a price politically," predicted former Florida governor Jeb Bush (R) in an e-mail exchange with the Fix late Wednesday.

Bush's Republican colleagues are already moving to exact that political price.

Minnesota Republican Gov. Tim Pawlenty, who is widely expected to run for president in 2012, announced on Wednesday that he had ordered all state funds going to the group frozen until a review of the organization had been completed.

Pawlenty's decision comes less than 48 hours after the Senate voted on a measure to restrict all federal funding devoted to ACORN -- a piece of legislation that drew wide bipartisan support with only seven senators (all Democrats) voting against it.

And, Republican leaders in the House continue to push the idea of bringing a similar bill up for a vote in the near future. "Simply put, ACORN should not receive another penny of American taxpayers' money," wrote House Minority Leader John Boehner (Ohio) in a letter to his colleagues earlier this week.

The ACORN effect is even hitting the campaign trail. In New York's 23rd district special election, Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffman is hitting state Assemblywoman Dede Scozzafava (R) for her alleged ties to ACORN.

The efficacy of these attacks remain to be seen -- John McCain attempted unsuccessfully to link President Obama to ACORN during the 2008 campaign -- but it's clear from the reaction of the White House that leading Democrats understand that being seen as defenders of the community group is political suicide.

White House press secretary Robert Gibbs called the tapes "completely unacceptable" during his daily briefing on Wednesday, adding "the administration takes accountability extremely seriously."

Doug Schoen, a Democratic pollster, said the ACORN controversy poses a "huge risk" to the Democratic party. "Swing voters are almost certainly going to put off by the constant barrage of stories about their abuses, the videos, and their unrepentant approach to the way they operate," he added.

Jon Lerner, a Republican consultant, argued that the ACORN problem is one that plagues whichever party is in the majority in Washington. "When Republicans were in control, their fringe organizations became fodder for the perception that they were too extreme," Lerner noted.

ACORN has long been a hot button issue for conservatives who believe the group engages in shady (at best) voter registration and turnout efforts. But, to date, conservatives have been unable to draw strong enough links between ACORN and the Democratic Party to score real political points.

With more undercover videos allegedly on the way, expect more Democratic elected officials to follow the White House's lead and begin not only distancing themselves from ACORN but also siding with those who are calling for investigations into its conduct.

"Any Democrat who acts or votes to protect ACORN will have an impossible time justifying it, and it will almost be too easy for us to make them pay politically for doing so," predicted Republican strategist Kevin Madden.

Thursday's Fix Picks:

1. "The Clinton Tapes."
2. Obama vs. Carter.
3. Massachusetts legislature moves toward temporary Senate appointment.
4. New radio ads aimed at getting Terry Branstad to run for Iowa governor (again).
5. Can Dan Brown save book publishing?

Paterson's Struggles Continue: New York Gov. David Paterson's (D) political future is looking dimmer and dimmer, according to a new Marist poll. Just one in five New Yorkers approve of the job Paterson is doing while a whopping 76 percent rate the governor's job performance as fair (42 percent) or poor (34 percent). Seven in ten voters would prefer not to see Paterson run including an amazing 65 percent of self-identified Democrats (!). Paterson's numbers are even more depressing when compared to those of state Attorney General Andrew Cuomo (D) who is weighing a gubernatorial bid of his own; 67 percent of Empire State voters would like to see Cuomo run including nearly eight in ten (77 percent) Democrats. Paterson continues to insist publicly that he plans to seek a full term in 2010 but with numbers like these he is almost certain to lose to either former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani or former Rep. Rick Lazio next fall.

Lazio Hires Myers: Speaking of Lazio, the former Long Island congressman has signed on Beth Myers, campaign manager for former governor Mitt Romney's (Mass.) 2008 presidential bid as an adviser to his campaign. Myers, who along with Romney vets Eric Fehrnstrom and Peter Flaherty, is a partner in the Shawmut Group, a Republican consulting firm, could find herself on the opposite side of Guiliani for the second straight cycle. After a failed presidential bid of his own, Giuliani endorsed Sen. John McCain (Ariz.) -- Romney's main rival for the nomination.

Good News for Ohio Democrats: While the political environment nationally isn't particularly rosy for Democrats, a new Quinnipiac University survey suggests things are looking up in Ohio. Both Lt. Gov. Lee Fisher (D) and Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner lead former Rep. Rob Portman in hypothetical 2010 Senate matchups; Fisher takes 42 percent to Portman's 31 percent while Brunner holds a 39 percent to 34 percent margin over Portman. Both Fisher and Brunner have improved their standing against Portman since a July Q poll, movement that suggests that Buckeye State voters have warmed to Democrats over the past few months. Ohio is one of seven open seats Senate Republicans must defend in 2010.

Click It!: The "Levi Johnston Blues" by Ben Folds and English novelist Nick Hornby. Genius.

Steelman Says No: After months of speculation about her political future, former Missouri state treasurer Sarah Steelman (R) has decided not to run for any office in 2010. Steelman cited her desire to raise her teenage son in Missouri rather than Washington, D.C. as the main motivator in her decision not to run for the seat being vacated by Sen. Kit Bond (R) in 2010. "This is my time to work hard as a private citizen, along with the growing number of like-minded citizens, to restore the conservative principles of freedom," said Steelman in a statement that seemed to make clear she is not done with elective office. Steelman ran unsuccessfully for governor in 2006, losing in a primary to former Rep. Kenny Hushof. Her personal money and conservative credentials made her a potentially appealing candidate but it had been clear for months that she would not run. Rep. Roy Blunt will almost certainly have the Republican nomination to himself; Secretary of State Robin Carnahan is the odds-on Democratic nominee.

Trumka Elected AFL-CIO President: Richard Trumka became the fifth president of the AFL-CIO on Wednesday during the massive labor organization's national conference in Pittsburgh on Wednesday. In his acceptance speech, Trumka promised a labor movement that "stands by its friends, punishes its enemies, and challenges those who can't decide whose side they're on." Trumka faces a divided labor movement with the Change to Win coalition -- led by the Service Employees International Union -- still estranged from the AFL-CIO. Labor's two biggest legislative priorities -- a health care bill with a public option and the Employee Free Choice Act -- also face uncertain futures.

Santorum to Iowa: Former Pennsylvania senator Rick Santorum (R), who has acknowledged an interest in running for president in 2012, will head to Iowa on Oct. 1 to deliver a speech as part of the American Future Fund's lecture series. Santorum, a noted social conservative, will focus on the economic side of conservatism in his address entitled: "Jumpstarting America's Economy by Putting People First".

Say What?: "Wrestling Queen McMahon to run/lose for Senate in CT. Idiotic, but it will cost Simmons $$. Shame on her payday seeking R consultants." -- Republican consultant Mike Murphy offers his thoughts on Linda McMahon's (R) chances in the Connecticut Senate race in a tweet Wednesday.

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Comments

Well, i guess the libs would like us to go away.
WE WON'T

Posted by: jdeldin | September 17, 2009 12:06 PM | Report abuse
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You remind me of the retarded kid in the neighborhood.

He won't leave us alone either. Constantly follows me and my neighbors around when we're working in the yard, hanging around outside long after we go in, just generally making a nuisance of himself and can't really help it.

Of course, that's the key, he can't really help it.

Republicans on the other hand don't understand that the little prick who made the video was getting played by the one lady and he didn't wear that coat when he walked into those offices. He would have been thrown out of all of them. The fact that he found a couple of places where the help was inept or corrupt doesn't mean anything other than he found a couple of offices where the help was incompetent and corrupt.

What about the office where they called the police after they told him to leave ? Conveniently forgot to play that, didn't he ?

If that's the best your retarded @sses can do, then you're the ones that need help.

Or maybe there was a turncoat in that one office and they thought they'd get on Limbaugh's good side with those underage Guatemalan girls. Sorry, I forgot, the fat prick is into little boys, isn't he ?

Posted by: dennissuper | September 19, 2009 1:21 PM | Report abuse

i hear all the opinions about acorn. i can only speak about my experiences with them. i make 52,000 a year. credit score a little low. i was turned down. i am a white woman.

Posted by: wearyof | September 18, 2009 6:39 PM | Report abuse

How is it possible not to be sickened by ACORN’s behavior?

How is it possible not to cut off federal funding to them?

Well if you are like some left leaning Senators from the states of Rhode Island and Pennsylvania it is easy not to be sickened or not to be in favor of the cutting off of funds to ACORN.

How can this be? My guess is that it is the combination of votes and white guilt.

ACORN is a group designed to deliver votes to the Democrats regardless of the methods that they employ. ACORN proved to be very good in delivering votes in the last election to the benefit of the left.

While those that oppose Obama’s policies have recently been accused of being racist, it is evident to me those Senators like the above suffer from white guilt.

Consequently they are unlikely to act against ACORN.

The funding of ACORN is in fact a form of reparations. Like the continuance of the Welfare State that was created in the United States in 1965, left leaning white politicians feel very comfortable with these payments.

Besides being good politics (it assures the black vote) for the Democrats it makes them feel that they are doing the right thing.

And at the end of the day that is what the left is all about: “doing the right thing” while simultaneously aggregating political power.

Of course the rest of us have to pay for these reparations and have suffered the consequences of the Welfare State but we don’t count because we are "racist".

Finally, does anyone out there really believe that Obama would sign a bill cutting off ACORN’s funding?

Just look at his history with this group and the answer will become self evident.


Posted by: rfdtd | September 18, 2009 9:44 AM | Report abuse

Rational people don't buy into "guilt by association." It is disappointing to find out that a friend is a criminal, and that is where the issue ends.

The irrational conservative wackos are as crazy today as they were when Obama was first elected.

Nothing really changes, and the Media use the issue to distract Americans from important issues.

Posted by: shadocat | September 18, 2009 6:02 AM | Report abuse

Where are Woodward and Bernstein when you need them?

Posted by: CharlesMartel | September 17, 2009 9:46 PM | Report abuse

When 8 ex-board members were thrown off the board because they wanted to see the books, the IRS should have followed its own 501(c)(3) rules and audited the organization.

Why is no one investigating this?

Posted by: CharlesMartel | September 17, 2009 9:44 PM | Report abuse

High voter FRAUD benefits Dems, that's for certain.

Posted by: JakeD | September 17, 2009 8:55 PM | Report abuse

"see voter registration as somehow illegitimate."

So we can put you in the "a little child prostitution is okay as long as ACORN keeps getting Democrats elected" column. How very stalinist of you.

If you want to spend money to fund this criminal outfit, then send in YOUR money but the rest of America doesn't want that waste. Da*n do you leeches pay for anything YOURSELVES?

Posted by: LogicalSC | September 17, 2009 8:53 PM | Report abuse

High voter FRAUD benefits Dems, that's for certain.

Posted by: JakeD | September 17, 2009 8:51 PM | Report abuse

Take note that Republican posters see voter registration as somehow illegitimate.

No surprise, the GOP has opposed every initiative ever proposed to make voting easier.

High turnout = bad for GOP

I wonder if they ever ask themselves why that would be.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | September 17, 2009 8:44 PM | Report abuse

I think we need to investigate all these Republicans who approved funds and projects for ACORN. WHY were they funneling money?

Posted by: margaretmeyers | September 17, 2009 8:03 PM | Report abuse

"thinly veiled attempt at voter suppression"

IF YOU WANT TO pay for ACORN take up a d*mn collection plate and PAY FOR IT YOURSELF. But the rest of AMERICA does not want its money stolen to pay to this criminal enterprise.

Why should the rest of America be funding a organization whose sole propose is the election of people to take even more of their money?

Pay for your own Leftist outfits.

Posted by: LogicalSC | September 17, 2009 8:01 PM | Report abuse

I guess CC will do a "morning fix" update since it seems that there was some editing and perhaps we don't have the whole story.

Posted by: rlj1 | September 17, 2009 7:40 PM | Report abuse

UPDATE: The Massachusetts House of Representatives has given initial approval to a bill allowing Gov. Deval Patrick to name an interim appointment to the Senate seat left vacant when Edward Kennedy died last month.

The House voted 97-58 in favor of the bill Thursday evening. It needs a second vote before it moves to the Massachusetts Senate, where its outcome remains unclear.

The House remained in session Thursday and a second vote was still possible tonight.

House Speaker Robert DeLeo, a Democrat, said the change in law is needed to ensure Massachusetts continues to be represented by two senators until voters can choose a replacement during a Jan. 19 special election.

Of course, that was not such a big concern when Republican, Mitt Romney, was Governor and the Dems changed the law to prevent Massachusetts from being represented by two senators ; )

Posted by: JakeD | September 17, 2009 7:26 PM | Report abuse

I noticed the entire Black Caucus voted to continue Acorn funding. Do they understand this is not a black-white issue but an issue of law and order. An Issue of common sense? An Issue of child abuse? Do they have no morals or self respect?

Posted by: dencal26 | September 17, 2009 7:24 PM | Report abuse

ACORN problems were known. The left decided to ignore. More to come.

Posted by: dencal26 | September 17, 2009 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Hey drudge trolls learn basic punctuation before you try posting here again.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | September 17, 2009 7:10 PM | Report abuse

"ACORN + related organizations +SEIU = much of Obama's supporters who got him elected. So what does that say about Obama? I think it would be prudent to get all the names of those who belong to ACORN and sister organizations related to it so they can't just start another organization like it under another name.

Posted by: ohioan "

Not that this person necessarily speaks for all anti-ACORN conservatives, but I think it's a fair assumption that he does reflect their thinking.

Where did SEIU and "related organizations" come from?

We all know the ACORN matter is a thinly veiled attempt at voter suppression against the poor and minorities.

The thing is these people have never lived in an urban environment. They wouldn't touch the unclean. They aren't the most reliable voters in the world, but they do get rallied by these attacks on them.

Posted by: DDAWD | September 17, 2009 6:35 PM | Report abuse

The Washington post, along with the mainstream media; NBC,CBS,ABC,CNN and MSNBC are clueless and out of touch. John Stewart on Comedy Central reports more news than the old established media. Those of you inside the Beltway, those of you in Power just felt the earth shift. It was WE The People, in the hinterlans, stamping our feet. That other noise you just heard? It was AMERICA, and we just said: "YOU LIE!" All of you.........

Posted by: CowboyLogic | September 17, 2009 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Per Wikipedea:

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The New York Times reported on July 9, 2008, that Dale Rathke, the brother of ACORN's founder Wade Rathke, was found to have embezzled $948,607.50 from the group and affiliated charitable organizations back in 1999 and 2000.[6] ACORN executives decided to handle it as an internal matter, and did not inform most of the board members or law enforcement, and instead signed an enforceable restitution agreement with the Rathke family to repay the amount of the embezzlement. $210,000 has already been repaid, and a donor has offered to pay the remaining debt. The Times reported that, according to Wade Rathke, "the decision to keep the matter secret was not made to protect his brother but because word of the embezzlement would have put a 'weapon' into the hands of enemies of ACORN, a liberal group that is a frequent target of conservatives who object to ACORN's often strident advocacy on behalf of low- and moderate-income families and workers."

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What a ridiculous notion, the idea that conservative critics of ACORN would use the embezzlement as a weapon against them. Where d'ya think they'd have gotten that idea?

Yadayadayada. Look, I'm delighted if you spend the next three years batting ACORN over the head. Go for it. After that, pick some other minority-run public interest group. Have fun with it. Really. Just don't think anyone else much cares about the scary monsters under your bed.

Posted by: nodebris | September 17, 2009 5:37 PM | Report abuse

And oh, yeah, I forgot:

"it is proof that even while ACORN was being investigated for serious problems, Obama still chose to hire them to help in his 2008 campaign."

Did you read the article? ACORN was the *victim* of embezzlement. Is United Way corrupt because it was victimized by embezzlement? Do you know what embezzlement is? Yikes.

Posted by: nodebris | September 17, 2009 4:49 PM | Report abuse
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Oh, please! The story was about 8 ex-board members who were thrown off the board because they demanded an outside audit of the organization. The embezzlement was committed by one of the founders of ACORN, and it was covered up by his brother and other ACORN insiders for eight years. After it was discovered, they someone managed to avoid any criminal charges or investigations. The article was about how corrupt ACORN is, according to ACORN insiders, and how they desperately wanted help getting it cleaned up so that it didn't implode!!!!

Posted by: anna_78750 | September 17, 2009 5:13 PM | Report abuse

That's okay "moderatevoter", I will put you down with the other resident liberals who see NO PROBLEM with sending taxpayer money to an organization who openly turn a blind eye to criminal activity just because they support the Democrat election effort.

Look I know you feel like a smuck for falling for the imbecile "hope and change" nonsense from a ACORN fluckie but you will get over it.

I mean, come on it must really sting admitting that having been relegated to conducting ACORN seminars for 10 years really didn't qualify Obama for the Presidency. It is a bitter pill to swallow, I am sure, for a "moderate".

At least America is getting a very clear picture of the entire "community organizing" racket which spawned Barack Obama.

Posted by: LogicalSC | September 17, 2009 5:06 PM | Report abuse

To LogicalSC

Nice posts

However, Logical should not be in your name. In your case, saying it does not make it so.

Posted by: ModerateVoter | September 17, 2009 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Just because it has a congressional seal on it does not make it non-partisan. As nodebris clearly stated, that "report" was generated by Rep. Issa's (R) staff.

Posted by: mikeinmidland | September 17, 2009 4:39 PM | Report abuse
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You're correct. However, the entire report is documented with sources that ARE unbiased. I've read it. Have you?

Posted by: anna_78750 | September 17, 2009 4:55 PM | Report abuse

"You can choose to educate yourself, or you can play stupid political games. I really couldn't care less"

The Obama supporters, including his lackeys in the MSM, do NOT want to EDUCATE themselves about Barry. They already know what they will find...Barry is just as big a bigot, crackpot and sleaze as every single one of his associates and associations who keep coming to light.

But Obama's Welfare Nation doesn't give a whit as long as Obama gives out all the goodies he can steal. And Obama who has been on the public dole for his entire life is just the man to go after the right targets (...read white conservatives) for the goodies to payoff his Welfare Nation.

And they are loving it...Get to sit at home with Oprah, load up the bong, and ole Barry is out shaking down the "man" everyday for some more graft to send their way.

Posted by: LogicalSC | September 17, 2009 4:50 PM | Report abuse

And oh, yeah, I forgot:

"it is proof that even while ACORN was being investigated for serious problems, Obama still chose to hire them to help in his 2008 campaign."

Did you read the article? ACORN was the *victim* of embezzlement. Is United Way corrupt because it was victimized by embezzlement? Do you know what embezzlement is? Yikes.

Posted by: nodebris | September 17, 2009 4:49 PM | Report abuse

anna_78750, if I hadn't looked at the report, I couldn't very well have described its author or content, could I? Have you looked at it? It is not a Committee report. It is a report by Republican Issa's Republican staff. That's why it's under Issa's name (ranking *Minority* member) and it says "Staff Report."

You may believe that rottenacorn.com is "non-partisan" and fair, but you'll have to excuse me if I rank it with ihateobama.com and deathtodisco.org. Next time, how about linking to democratsareallstupid.com?

Finally, anything touched by Scaife has no pretension to balance and fairness. Using that is as if I had tried to convince you of ACORN's decency by citing a report from ACORN. Come on.

It's a pity you can't even see how circular and biased your sources are.

Posted by: nodebris | September 17, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Just because it has a congressional seal on it does not make it non-partisan. As nodebris clearly stated, that "report" was generated by Rep. Issa's (R) staff.

Posted by: mikeinmidland | September 17, 2009 4:39 PM | Report abuse

1) rottenacorn.com? OK, I'm not going to even pretend that's a legitimate source of information . . .

2) The Capital Research Center: per SourceWatch, a conservative think tank whose stated mission is to do "opposition research" exposing the funding sources behind consumer, health and environmental groups. Funded by a Scaife foundation. Your link is a compilation of unsubstantiated allegations from Republican Congressman Darrell Issa, who is proposing the current bill to defund ACORN. Nice.

3) The Pittsbugh Tribune-Review, owned by Scaife. Your link does not mention Obama at all. It documents an embezzlement case widely reported in the MSM.

This is supposed to prove you are not a victim of the conservative echo chamber?

Why don't you post a link to a conservative activist web site with words from Glenn Beck quoting Limbaugh citing Issa reading an excerpt from a Scaiffe report on Acorn?

I mean, you could try just a wee little bit to appear impartial, eh?

Posted by: nodebris | September 17, 2009 4:13 PM
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You know, people like you choose to be ignorant. Capital Research simply posted a congressional committee report on ACORN, but obviously you didn't even bother to look at it, because your intention was just to discredit my sources. The rottenacorn.com site is not a partisan site, it has been tracking ACORN crime for a decade. I noted the Pittsburgh article because it is proof that even while ACORN was being investigated for serious problems, Obama still chose to hire them to help in his 2008 campaign. You can choose to educate yourself, or you can play stupid political games. I really couldn't care less.

Posted by: anna_78750 | September 17, 2009 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Ahhhahahhah, look at all the idiot leftist raving because their "messiah" sleaziness it being open to the world.

I supposed we can add pimping and child prostitution to the list for which Obama and his leftist POSs are supposed to get a pass because Obama is a Democrat.

Why the hell is this "get the communists elected" organization getting taxpayer money any da*m way.

SUSPEND TAXPAYER FUNDING TO ALL LEFTIST ORGANIZATIONS UNTIL THEY ARE AUDITED FOR THIS CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR.

If you dirty leftist want to fund this type of group take up a collection and quit stealing from the taxpayer to fund your criminal enterprises!!!

Posted by: LogicalSC | September 17, 2009 4:19 PM | Report abuse

anna_78750, your sources are the following respected, objective sources?

1) rottenacorn.com? OK, I'm not going to even pretend that's a legitimate source of information . . .

2) The Capital Research Center: per SourceWatch, a conservative think tank whose stated mission is to do "opposition research" exposing the funding sources behind consumer, health and environmental groups. Funded by a Scaife foundation. Your link is a compilation of unsubstantiated allegations from Republican Congressman Darrell Issa, who is proposing the current bill to defund ACORN. Nice.

3) The Pittsbugh Tribune-Review, owned by Scaife. Your link does not mention Obama at all. It documents an embezzlement case widely reported in the MSM.

This is supposed to prove you are not a victim of the conservative echo chamber?

Why don't you post a link to a conservative activist web site with words from Glenn Beck quoting Limbaugh citing Issa reading an excerpt from a Scaiffe report on Acorn?

I mean, you could try just a wee little bit to appear impartial, eh?

Posted by: nodebris | September 17, 2009 4:13 PM | Report abuse

ACORN + related organizations +SEIU = much of Obama's supporters who got him elected. So what does that say about Obama? I think it would be prudent to get all the names of those who belong to ACORN and sister organizations related to it so they can't just start another organization like it under another name.

Posted by: ohioan | September 17, 2009 4:10 PM | Report abuse

ACORNGate is waking up more and more people to the truth as to how far their supporters in the Government have been removed from main stream Democrats. Here is a list of those in Congress that voted NOT to Defund ACORN, all Democrats, unfortunately:

Baldwin
Becerra
Brady (PA)
Brown, Corrine
Butterfield
Capuano
Carson (IN)
Castor (FL)
Cleaver
Clyburn
Crowley
Cummings
Davis (IL)
DeGette
Delahunt
Doyle
Edwards (MD)
Ellison
Engel
Fattah
Filner
Fudge
Green, Al
Grijalva
Hinchey
Hirono
Holt
Honda
Jackson (IL)
Jackson-Lee (TX)
Johnson, E. B.
Kilpatrick (MI)
Kucinich
Larsen (WA)
Lee (CA)
Lewis (GA)
Lynch
Markey (MA)
McCollum
McDermott
McGovern
Meeks (NY)
Mollohan
Moore (WI)
Moran (VA)
Nadler (NY)
Neal (MA)
Olver
Pallone
Pascrell
Payne
Polis (CO)
Price (NC)
Rahall
Rangel
Roybal-Allard
Rush
Sánchez, Linda T.
Schakowsky
Scott (GA)
Scott (VA)
Serrano
Sherman
Sires
Slaughter
Stark
Thompson (MS)
Towns
Tsongas
Velázquez
Waters
Watson
Waxman
Wexler
Woolsey

I will be willing to wager that most, if not all of them received campaign contributions from ACORN. Where is that legislation to abolish all political contributions from organizations that have lobbyists in Washington?

Posted by: DL13 | September 17, 2009 3:46 PM | Report abuse

The "gotcha" video too featuring a few trust fund kids was absolutely shameless. With the proceeds I wouldn't be surprised if those kids threw a cocaine party -- as THEIR ilk is likely to do when the cameras are turned off.

Posted by: JPRS | September 17, 2009 2:05 PM
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ROTFLMBO! You have got to be joking. There are MANY videos, from FIVE different ACORN offices from one coast to the other. These "trust fund kids" used their own money to do the investigation, and they were paid NOTHING for their videos. Go watch, read and educate yourself. There are some people in this world who do the right thing just because it's the right thing to do.
www.biggovernment.com

Posted by: anna_78750 | September 17, 2009 3:45 PM | Report abuse

There are a couple of words you can stick in a headline that bring out the mouth-breathers in droves. ACORN is *way* up there.

Posted by: nodebris


So, you admit to being a mouth-breather? Is this is general or when you are stuffed up due to allergies?
And is that a bad thing? Or a good thing?
I mean sometines on the soccer field, I am breathing so hard, the nose can't keep up. But I don't see the tie to ACORN there. Or are you saying I might be allergic to Oak trees?
I guess I better have my doctor look into that.
And you may want to schedule an appointment with a doctor also....psychiatry would be a good start, me thinks.

Posted by: marksman37 | September 17, 2009 3:37 PM | Report abuse

What have you got?

Posted by: nodebris | September 17, 2009 3:11 PM
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Knock yourself out. This is all public knowledge, but it's been ignored.

What have you got?

Posted by: nodebris | September 17, 2009 3:11 PM
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http://rottenacorn.com/activityMap.html

http://www.capitalresearch.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/7-23-09-ogr-acorn-report.pdf

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/s_606173.html

Posted by: anna_78750 | September 17, 2009 3:31 PM | Report abuse

I must have surfed to the Washington Times, would have sworn I typed Washington POST

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite


the weakness of liberalism is on display today.

check back another time for the liberal mutual admiration society.

Posted by: snowbama | September 17, 2009 3:29 PM | Report abuse

ACORN is a Marxist organization wrapped up in a bow with SEIU, And the working families party of New York City.

Blaming this on conservatives is cute and laughable!!

This group ACORN is the ARMY OF OBAMA as mentioned in a campaign speech!!!

Obama gave them a place in the 2010 census and now has to drop them out!!!!!

It is time to see some reporting from major outlets but they are still hiding for their friends!!!!!


Posted by: jjcrocket2 | September 17, 2009 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Obama's career with ACORN, since 1992.

"I’ve been fighting alongside ACORN on issues you care about my entire career. Even before I was an elected official, when I ran Project Vote voter registration drive in Illinois, ACORN was smack dab in the middle of it, and we appreciate your work." -- Barack Obama, Speech to ACORN, November 2007

http://theobamafile.com/obamaacorn.htm

Posted by: anna_78750 | September 17, 2009 3:22 PM | Report abuse

There are a couple of words you can stick in a headline that bring out the mouth-breathers in droves. ACORN is *way* up there.

Posted by: nodebris | September 17, 2009 3:20 PM | Report abuse

we will keep digging until we have President ACORN indicted. This is going to be fun watching the democrat socialist party squirm. Bunch of criminals.

Posted by: charlietuna666

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Dig dig dig you delusional maniacs. But you'd have to find Democrats defending corruption that you find or trying to excuse it to really make it stick. As you can see the Democrats seem more interested in what's right then what benefits the party. If ACORN is found to be sewage from the ground up they'll be on an island by themselves.

If ACORN were a major Repub backer then you can bet that right wingers would deny deny deny and do anything else that is neccessary to keep their cash cow alive. What you're seeing is the opposite of how things ran the last 8 years.

Posted by: theobserver4 | September 17, 2009 3:16 PM | Report abuse

What is frightening is that all the millions of tax dollars, entities, and media, whose responsibility to protect us through oversight, have so transparently failed, clearly not through neglect or even incompetence, but through political sensitivities that allow or even encourage this criminal behavior and destruction. It is time to have many investigations at all levels of authority to dicover to what level this indemic plague exists,(including the role it plays in elections and street organizing, as well as pro-illegal immigration demonstrations etc.) and stamp it, and all others like it, out!

Posted by: DonL1 | September 17, 2009 3:15 PM | Report abuse

"there has long been plenty of evidence, but the media has refused to acknowledge it."

Link? I have one from the NYT that acknowledges the charges but dismisses them as unsubstantiated:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/11/us/politics/11acorn.html

What have you got?

Posted by: nodebris | September 17, 2009 3:11 PM | Report abuse

I must have surfed to the Washington Times, would have sworn I typed Washington POST

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | September 17, 2009 3:11 PM | Report abuse

muslit: this isn't about "smut," as you call it. It's about criminal activity. And if all of you Bush-haters really want to tolerate trafficking minors for prostitution, it just shows how blinded you have become because of that hatred.

One would think that everyone, including Mr. Cillizza, would be far more interested in rooting out corruption and crime than focusing on who scores political points. Of course, I am sure the Post has put out the marching orders: cover our behinds for not having covered this story. It's a shame that the newspaper of record has sunk this low and shown itself once again as a poodle for those in power.

Posted by: jpfannen | September 17, 2009 3:08 PM | Report abuse

"But, to date, conservatives have been unable to draw strong enough links between ACORN and the Democratic Party to score real political points."

This is "intellectually dishonest" at best. there has long been plenty of evidence, but the media has refused to acknowledge it.

Posted by: anna_78750 | September 17, 2009 3:06 PM | Report abuse

I think ACORN may disband and reorganize as, "National Union To Join Unempowered Brethren," AKA NUTJOB.

Posted by: hofbrauhausde | September 17, 2009 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Yawn.

Posted by: nodebris | September 17, 2009 3:00 PM | Report abuse

"Obama has said again and again about how, he is one with ACORN."

It should be easy for you to come up with one legitimate example then. Link?

Posted by: nodebris | September 17, 2009 2:58 PM | Report abuse

If the Justice Dept doesn't investigate it is only going to get worse in terms of more and more "incidents". ACORN is currently being investigated for voter fraud in 17 states. So far they've shrugged it off as "rogue employees". ACORN is run by one of the Rathke brothers - the other one runs SEIU. We all know the links of SEIU directly to the White House. The Congress led by Barney and Nancy recently voted specifically to continue funding ACORN despite being under indictment on federal charges. Somebody in the White House better be paying attention; it could be very very damaging.

Posted by: sandynh | September 17, 2009 2:57 PM | Report abuse

"Simply put, ACORN should not receive another penny of American taxpayers' money," wrote House Minority Leader John Boehner (Ohio) in a letter to his colleagues earlier this week.

Is this the same John Boehner who voted to send 70,000,000,000,000 (70 *quadrillion*) pennies of American taxpayers' money to the scam artists on Wall Street? When did *he* get religion?

Posted by: chaos1 | September 17, 2009 2:56 PM | Report abuse

I don't believe the stories about a crowd carrying Jimmy Carter posters following Rep. Wilson (R-SC) about, shouting "Racist!" and pelting the legislator with acorns.

Posted by: HassanAliAl-Hadoodi | September 17, 2009 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Yah that's crazy talk....a successful business woman running for CT Senate seat (McMahon)....what we need is an ass of a so called comic (Franken) falsifying a bunch of votes and getting elected...now that would be a Senator...you are so wise Mr. Cillizza....you guys are toast...just deal with it!

Posted by: daisyforu | September 17, 2009 2:54 PM | Report abuse

From the Wall Street Journal

Obama worked for Acorn and Acorn worked for Obama. That doesn't mean the president is implicated in any wrongdoing, but it suggests at least that the worse things get for Acorn, the more embarrassing it is for him. If the Justice Department fails to prosecute, it invariably would raise suspicions of political favoritism. This column does not care for special prosecutors, but the case for appointing one would seem to be stronger here than usual.

President ACORN has a nice ring to it, doesn't it?

Posted by: charlietuna666 | September 17, 2009 2:53 PM | Report abuse

ACORN a danger? Shouldn't be. It does a lot of good. I think if you sneak a video cam in any federally funded headquarters, conservative or progressive, you'll find some smut.

Posted by: muslit | September 17, 2009 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Listen up . . . Obama has said again and again about how, he is one with ACORN.

"Tell me of your friends and I will tell you who you are"

At the rate things are going with the WH, I doubt that BO will still be in office at the end of 4 years.

Posted by: pipian | September 17, 2009 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Listen up . . . Obama has said again and again about how, he is one with ACORN.

"Tell me of your friends and I will tell you who you are"

At the rate thins are going with theWH, I doubt that BO will still be in office at the end of 4 years.

Posted by: pipian | September 17, 2009 2:44 PM | Report abuse

CONGRATULATIONS, CC.

YOU BROUGHT OUT THE ENTIRE NAZI PARTY.


Posted by: drindl


CC = I thought you were going to scrub this idiocy from your blog? you will notice similar mindless rants on every thread.

I wonder if you can get in trouble for not reporting this to the health authorites as someone who clearly might hurt themselves?

Posted by: snowbama | September 17, 2009 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Pelosi: I'm clueless about cash cut-off

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/pelosi_clueless_about_cash_cut_off_ZHSkPZ2Mbhr5phoqht5GHN

Wow! When does she find the time...

LOL

Posted by: markreginald | September 17, 2009 2:34 PM | Report abuse

This could be an opportunity for ACORN to welcome an objective evaluation of all their offices to show that their commitment to serving the poor is greater than their need to defend past practices.

I hope that the ACORN leaders will let an outside audit be conducted by community leaders, with no conflicts of interest, who can evaluate ACORN's past successes and problems in order to build a stronger organization to carry out their core missions.

Or, the ACORN leaders and supporters can stonewall, cry racism, and doom their organization to continuing scandals because changes aren't made.

Posted by: annetta3 | September 17, 2009 2:32 PM | Report abuse

so blarsen, your point is that since government has such a sparkling track record, it is time to begin ignoring them?

Or is this simply another infantile "Bush did it" argument?

Posted by: snowbama | September 17, 2009 2:31 PM | Report abuse

CONGRATULATIONS, CC.

YOU BROUGHT OUT THE ENTIRE NAZI PARTY.


Posted by: drindl | September 17, 2009 2:29 PM | Report abuse

The Senate is doing the right thing to defund ACORN until investigations are done due to what appears to be rampant corruption and outright stupidity. The same should pass in the House and basically some great investigative reporting was done.......even if it was likely by a right wing driven rage.

Hey whatever.....so long as people are held accountable.

Posted by: theobserver4 | September 17, 2009 2:25 PM | Report abuse

No bid contracts, soldiers electrocuted in showers, two war started costing a trillion dollars, shredding of habeus corpus, Blackwater contractors killing innocent civilians in Iraq and threatening to kill residents of New Orleans, White House call logs and emails destroyed, gay hooker in the WH press corps, CIA agents outed by the Vice President, torture in prisons--not to mention 9/11, Katrina and the country's economic collapse and the republicans think that ACORN is something to hang on the democrats. When they can say their house is clean then they can look at ours, but the republicans have spent (and stolen) countless taxpayer dollars in the last eightyears NEEDLESSLY!WAKE UP AMERICA!

Posted by: blarsen1 | September 17, 2009 2:25 PM | Report abuse

No bid contracts, soldiers electrocuted in showers, two war started costing a trillion dollars, shredding of habeus corpus, Blackwater contractors killing innocent civilians in Iraq and threatening to kill residents of New Orleans, White House call logs and emails destroyed, gay hooker in the WH press corps, CIA agents outed by the Vice President, torture in prisons--not to mention 9/11, Katrina and the country's economic collapse and the republicans think that ACORN is something to hang on the democrats. When they can say their house is clean thn they can look at ours, but the republicans have spent (and stolen) countless taxpayer dollars in the last eightyears NEEDLESSLY!WAKE UP AMERICA!

Posted by: blarsen1 | September 17, 2009 2:24 PM | Report abuse

What about Obama/Holder going against their own government civil rights lawyers in favor of the New Black Panther Party voter intimidation. There is even a video of this too.

Posted by: ram_xxx_ram | September 17, 2009 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Corruption breeds corruption....breeds more corruption...breeds even more corruption. Simple as that!

Posted by: SeniorVet | September 17, 2009 2:10 PM | Report abuse

If the GOP want to attack the Democrats thru Accorn, it's time someone starts to tie them to The Family and all it represents. May step on a few Democratic toes, but The Family reach is so deep into Republican Party, corrupt foreign governments and undisclosed financial dealings they're a target just waiting to be gone after. Jeff Sharlet wrote the book, now someone take it into the news outside of "C" street and hiking the Applachian Trail. Start with members the Senate Values Action Team (VAT).

Posted by: ekoeko | September 17, 2009 2:07 PM | Report abuse

It's easy to demonize ACORN because they don't really have the financial resources, or media leverage to fight back (e.g. unlike the insurance and pharmaceutical industries they also don't purchase enough ad time to get favorable coverage from the channels like Fox -- and frankly many other broadcast news outlets).

In the big scheme of things though, these issues are primarily resonating with the GOP base.

I suspect for many others who understand what the score is, this is just typical bullying by the wingnuts. They and their mouth-pieces on the radio lack the courage to really take on the groups who get billions and in some cases TRILLIONS in taxpayer money. They are losing the [bleep] over an organization that gets chump change from tax-payers each year (less than $4 mill. which is less money than Beck, Limbaugh and the like earn in a year -- never mind that ACORN actually provides a service to America's working families and working poor; it actually works to get people out of poverty).

The "gotcha" video too featuring a few trust fund kids was absolutely shameless. With the proceeds I wouldn't be surprised if those kids threw a cocaine party -- as THEIR ilk is likely to do when the cameras are turned off.

Posted by: JPRS | September 17, 2009 2:05 PM | Report abuse

It's funny how most liberals are quickly dismissing ACORN to save face.

Finally, a legitimate voter registration and vote count for the upcoming election.

Posted by: markreginald | September 17, 2009 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Late Breaking News!

House Members to Force Vote on
ACORN's Funding

Nancy still clueless about the whole thing. Was at the beauty parlor getting a new face. Same as the old face.

Posted by: snowbama | September 17, 2009 2:00 PM | Report abuse

we will keep digging until we have President ACORN indicted. This is going to be fun watching the democrat socialist party squirm. Bunch of criminals.

Posted by: charlietuna666 | September 17, 2009 1:59 PM | Report abuse

I nominate ScottChallenger for post of the day! ROFL

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | September 17, 2009 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: win_harrington | September 17, 2009 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Who are all these people? Did Dan Brown write a book about ACORN? If they're as powerful and pervasive as some of the posters here indicate, they've been getting money from the government for a long time. Was GEORGE BUSH and his administration funneling them money?

I want the FBI to investigate this proven tie between GWB and ACORN.

I want the SEC to pull records on every corporation that has played pals with ACORN to raise their charitable profile. There has to be a reason why they chose ACORN.

I want Regent University to explain how they can practice the same religion, "Christianity", as many of these ACORN socialists do. Where is *their* shame?

And every politician who signed-off on a local ACORN initiative -- I want them on FOX right now.

This is clearly a complex government conspiracy and it ALL points back to the BUSH administration!

Posted by: margaretmeyers | September 17, 2009 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Obviously the Democrats have to ditch ACORN. The tapes are just politically hot. However, I do wonder about the quote, "When Republicans were in control, their fringe organizations became fodder for the perception that they were too extreme," Lerner noted.

Are the extreme Republican organizations Mr. Lerner refers too Lichtenstein and Switzerland? You know, the countries whose banks actively marketed tax evasion plans. At least ACORN tried to help working girls for free, rather than collect millions of dollars in fees to hide billions in assets and then turn around and rat out their paying clients. A pox on both their houses.

Posted by: caribis | September 17, 2009 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Look a little further at who's really pulling the strings and pissing away America's name, goodwill, and 401k's.


Posted by: jbanks979 |
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OK, I get it now. you mean Obama.

Posted by: snowbama | September 17, 2009 1:44 PM | Report abuse

nodebris - there is plenty of incompetence to go around. this is just for this week.

Just as clinton was subject to a new scandal every week for years, Obama will be revealed to not have a clue what he is doing over and over until the next election. his associates that were ignored during the campaign will still be hanging around his neck, weighing him down at every turn.

Next week it will be czars. then the UN debacle the following week. Since messiah is so unaccustomed to having any dissent, he is wholly unprepared to fight back. He lectures on deceit, fear-mongering, lies and misinformation and then trades this as his only stock. The voters get it. this is not hope and change. It is more of the same times ten.

Posted by: snowbama | September 17, 2009 1:42 PM | Report abuse

you mean the Liberal congress, right?
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I'm glad your dichotic mind can't see beyond a left-right issue, but I was talking about the truly powerful and corrupt regardless of political party. Stop distracting ourselves with corruption at a relatively meaningless organization. Look a little further at who's really pulling the strings and pissing away America's name, goodwill, and 401k's.

Posted by: jbanks979 | September 17, 2009 1:42 PM | Report abuse

channel their near constant outrage towards the truly powerful and corrupt

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you mean the Liberal congress, right?

Posted by: snowbama | September 17, 2009 1:36 PM | Report abuse

And who cares who or what ACORN wins or loses, really? Despite the fantasies of the right, the left/middle is not dependent on or particularly invested in the success or failure of ACORN. I think most people on the left had never even *heard* of ACORN until the right-wing started freaking out about a successful black urban get-out-the-vote organization.

It's the right-wing bugbear du jour, and no more. If an ACORN scandal is what the right is counting on to spark their resurgence, well: good luck with that. Ride that hobby horse as far as it will take you. Here in the middle, we're focused on the economy, energy, defense, and education. See you at the finish line.

Posted by: nodebris | September 17, 2009 1:35 PM | Report abuse

If republicans/conservatives/teabaggers whatever would only channel their near constant outrage towards the truly powerful and corrupt, alot of good could happen in this country.

The nations financial institutions wilfully and recklessly almost brought about the complete collapse of capitalism last fall, and you expect me to march on washington because of a few idiots working at a poorly funded organization that's dedicated to registering low income voters?

Cut off their funding, who cares! ACORN is only meaningful in the eyes of idiots who get their news from a very biased conservative source.

Where's the outrage at the fact companies like Goldman Sachs continue to exploit the political system (and members of Both parties) to rake in record breaking profits at the expense of taxpayers? I'd gladly teabag a few of my fellow citizens to enact meanigful regulation to prevent the events of October 2008 from happening again.

Posted by: jbanks979 | September 17, 2009 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Trumka promised a labor movement that "stands by its friends, punishes its enemies, and challenges those who can't decide whose side they're on."

With the President urging his supporters to "get in the face of opponents," the finger biter taking off the pinkie of a health care reform opponent, and Ms. Maxine Waters urging "interviews" and investigations of those attending the 9/12 event, I can see why the Post race columnists have noted the rising cacophony of hate.

Oh, that hate is supposed to be coming from the right.

Posted by: Curmudgeon10 | September 17, 2009 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Sorry to get off-topic. The fact checkers have thoroughly debunked the myth that ACORN caused the sub-prime crisis.

I have no sympathy for anyone who would tell people to lie or cheat in any instance. If that's the case, ACORN was right to fire the employees.

I would want to see the whole unedited tape to see how it really went down. I'd also be curious to know how many times and how many places these "undercover reporters" went to try and catch low-level employees giving bad advice.

If it is endemic, then ACORN should be de-funded. And any politician should be judged by their continued support.

I still don't see how its Obama's problem, and certainly not a Democrats-only problem.

(Again, Obama worked ONE case for ACORN, a case in which they were on the same side as the Justice Department.)

Posted by: mikeinmidland | September 17, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

I personally voted for John Anderson, a Republican I still found to be more liberal than Jimmy.


Posted by: howie14


I also voted for anderson. perhaps nnot for the same reason as you.

Posted by: snowbama | September 17, 2009 1:26 PM | Report abuse

"Political cudgel", oh how British.

Posted by: whocares666 | September 17, 2009 1:25 PM | Report abuse

"Snowbama":

You must've been a child when Carter was President. Carter was defeated by Reagan because people didn't like hyperinflation combined with long gas lines and a neverending hostage situation in Iraq. Carter seem intractable and dour and Reagan told us it was "Morning in America". Think Hoover-FDR with the parties reversed.

To those of us who were/are liberal, Carter sure wasn't. Ted Kennedy challenged him FROM THE LEFT in the 1980 primaries because most of us, and Teddy especially, thought Carter was GOP-lite. I personally voted for John Anderson, a Republican I still found to be more liberal than Jimmy.

Posted by: howie14 | September 17, 2009 1:23 PM | Report abuse

"If ACORN's lost Stewart, then they've lost America."

So, you think Stewart is about to vote GOP? That he's seen the light, and he'll start supporting Palin and Joe Wilson now?

The mind reels at the wishful thinking of the right.

Posted by: nodebris | September 17, 2009 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Red lining is refusing to approve a mortgage based on the neighborhood it is in. Period. That is discrimination.

Nothing that ACORN advocated "forced" banks to loan to people with bad credit or an inability to pay. They advocated that loans be made without regard to race or address. That's it.

Posted by: mikeinmidland | September 17, 2009 12:58 PM |
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Red Lining was FIRST used by those (even Jesse Jackson) to refer to institutions that were NOT present in poor areas where people wouldn't qualify for mortgages. I couldn't qualify for a loan at one time and had to RENT.
Who said ACORN changed the laws? Their accomplices in congress changed the laws.

Posted by: ekim53 | September 17, 2009 1:15 PM | Report abuse

A good deal of the subprime crisis was due to mortgages that never went through a traditional bank at all.

Mortgage brokers wrote bad loans because they 1) got a nice fee, and 2) got to bundle and sell the mortgage so there was no downside to them.

Yes, lots of people got mortgages they couldn't afford. That was not ACORN's fault.

Posted by: mikeinmidland | September 17, 2009 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Acorn deserves an investigation and judgement based on facts, if that is possible in the current environment. The main problem the GOP has with ACORN is there ability to turn out the liberal vote. For all their talk about supporting democracy the GOP does its best to suppress the vote among groups that tend not to support them. Right now it doesn't look good for ACORN but I personally will wait to see where the facts lead. If they have a few rogue employees, that would not cause me to change my political leanings. Certainly either party can point out corrupt supporters on both sides.

Posted by: cdierd1944 | September 17, 2009 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Anyone notice Jon Stewart's spot on piece about this? It was refreshing, because he gives props to the kids who filmed this and Fox, and mocks the rest of the media mercilessly. If ACORN's lost Stewart, then they've lost America.

Posted by: Peejay | September 17, 2009 1:13 PM | Report abuse


Exactly, nodebris. I have a friend who said that O'Reilly is mainstream because he's more moderate than Limbaugh. It would be funny if it were not so sad.

Fox viewers: If you can't find a network or a website that is too right-wing for you, then you are by definition NOT "moderate."

Posted by: mikeinmidland | September 17, 2009 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Those ACORN Tapes are going to make beautiful ads against democrats still supporting them next year.

Posted by: robtr | September 17, 2009 1:11 PM | Report abuse


FNMA-Major Toxic Asset Generator

ACORN-Major Toxic Asset Generator

RED LINING- The very beginning scream of liberals in getting lending institutions to make Tenuous Loans

FAIR LENDING LAWS- forced lending institutions to make tenuous loans that snow balled and then bundled in Wall Street deals

TRIPLING ENERGY COSTS. Caused by Democrats who years blocked ALL practical Domestic sources of energy at a time when energy was in high world demand

TRIPLING ENERGY COSTS caused businesses to contract(Layoffs),Automobile Manufactures to go belly up and a downward spiral of the economy (Energy Rules) AND ALL THOSE TENUOUS LOANS TURNED TO TOXIC ASSETS! CRISIS CRISIS CRISIS CRISIS CRISIS CRISIS CRISIS CRISIS CRISIS CRISIS CRISIS CRISIS CRISIS

UNDER REGULATED- Phony Democrat Shield in an attempt to protect their INCOMPETENCE AND THEIR MEDDLING IN THE CREDIT MARKETS.


Obama/Pelosi/Reid/Democrats ALL incompetent and NOT TRUSTWORTHY to do ANYTHING.

KEEP UP THE IN YOUR PROTESTS, AMERICA IT'S WORKING

PS
LIARS, IGNORANCE , WHAT SUCKS- Obama, Pelosi.Reid, Liberal Democrats, Socialism,. Socialists, Ignorant Tingly legged Obama voters, Obama Government Care, Cap and Trade, the Color Green, Barney Frank, Change, Kyoto Protocol, NBC, ABC, CBS….

Posted by: ekim53 | September 17, 2009 1:08 PM | Report abuse

They advocated that loans be made without regard to race or address. That's it.

Posted by: mikeinmidland


or ability to repay, credit worthiness, downpayment, employment history, you know, the old school stuff. Liberal economics at its worst.

Posted by: snowbama | September 17, 2009 1:08 PM | Report abuse

"One enquiring mind would like to know how much in federal funds ACORN received during the presidency of George W. Bush?"

They have recieved 53 million in federal funding since 94.

They have 8 billion slated to them by this administration.

Posted by: owebama | September 17, 2009 1:07 PM | Report abuse

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said yesterday she is clueless about an amendment to prohibit government funds for embattled ACORN, although it overwhelmingly passed the Senate Monday and the White House is calling for the group to be held accountable." I don't even know what they passed," Pelosi told The Post yesterday. "What did they do? They defunded it?"

Inspiring!

Posted by: snowbama | September 17, 2009 1:06 PM | Report abuse

The radical right thinks it is the middle. This misconception will be its undoing.

Posted by: nodebris | September 17, 2009 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Of course, not shown on the biggovernment.com website were the many ACORN offices they visited who told the actors to go F--- themselves when they asked the questions they did. This team of "undercover investigators" were about as fair and balanced as FauxNews.

But what else do you want from the birther/deather crowd. They are in full psychotic obsession mode right now.

Posted by: B2O2 | September 17, 2009 12:35 PM | Report abuse


birther/deather crowd????

Did you come up with this after smoking dope????
LIB T@RD!!!!!

Posted by: askgees | September 17, 2009 1:01 PM | Report abuse

"Danger for Democrats"? You bet. Both President Obama and the Democratic Party have extensive ties with ACORN. Even worse, ACORN's "we're above the law and have the right to a steady stream of taxpayer dollars" attitude pretty much sums up many of the Democratic Party's core constituencies.

Posted by: VirginiaIndependent | September 17, 2009 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Actually nodebris, thank you for making my point.

The supporters of this administration simply cannot fathom that anyone other than "the radical right" could object to their actions.

These misconceptions will be their undoing.

Posted by: owebama | September 17, 2009 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Red lining is refusing to approve a mortgage based on the neighborhood it is in. Period. That is discrimination.

Nothing that ACORN advocated "forced" banks to loan to people with bad credit or an inability to pay. They advocated that loans be made without regard to race or address. That's it.

Posted by: mikeinmidland | September 17, 2009 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Republicans lecturing anybody, anyone or any party on corruption except in a class taught by Republicans on how to ruthlessly carry out corruption is meaningless.

http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/3124

Posted by: Patriot3 | September 17, 2009 12:56 PM | Report abuse

And Carter of all people knows that racism does not explain Americans’ distaste for overweening liberalism: He’s the white guy who lost 44 states to Reagan.

This showy self-righteousness is of a piece with Mr. Carter’s other forays into political controversy, for instance in his likening of Israelis attempting to protect themselves from murderous terrorists bent on bombing schools and pizza shops to Apartheid-era South African hooligans and the Bull Connors of the Jim Crow South. Mr. Carter’s cheap moralizing and his obsequiousness before such killers as Yasser Arafat left the Middle East much worse off than he found it, not least for those Palestinians with whom he later confessed himself to be “in love.”

The inescapable conclusion is that Mr. Carter has defective judgment. We already knew that: We’ve known it since he clenched his fist and proclaimed energy conservation the “moral equivalent of war” while clad in a sweater. We’ve known it since his disastrous economic policies further impoverished the poor while he smugly posed as their champion. And he has gone from hammering nails into Habitat for Humanity houses to hammering what remains of his reputation to smithereens. The nation was poorer for his presidency and is poorer still for his emeritus shenanigans.
Today, Mr. Obama's approval among young voters is down 10 points since July, according to Gallup polls.
Gallup polls reveal his support among Hispanics fell 14 points to 67% over the summer. Mr. Obama may be changing the electorate for 2010, but in the wrong direction for his party.
Mr. Obama will appear on five news shows on Sunday. His time might be better spent praying for more public support.

Posted by: snowbama | September 17, 2009 12:56 PM | Report abuse

One enquiring mind would like to know how much in federal funds ACORN received during the presidency of George W. Bush?

Posted by: jeffersonian1 | September 17, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

When asked about the ACORN scandal:
ABC's Charlie Gibson answered Acorn WHO?

When US Senators asked FBI Mueller--what about the ACORN scandal?

FBI Director Mueller answered ACORN WHO?

Yesterday, after seeing a video showing a white man slapping a black woman, the FBI immediately opened a federal case.

Today, FBI Director Mueller is meeting with Attorney General Eric Holder to determine if there is any reason to investigate ACORN, shown on video across the nation to be using federal money for federal tax crimes, illegal alien smuggling and child prostitution.

Isn't it just heartwarming to see these top federal law enforcement officials in action?

Posted by: chazz60 | September 17, 2009 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Right on Blackwater.

Maybe Republicans will claim ACORN stole the $12 billion in Iraq.

Posted by: edlharris | September 17, 2009 12:46 PM | Report abuse

ekim53 thank you for reminding me what a bang up job the republicans did over the last 8 years. How could I have forgotten all that they did for us. I understand now....

Democrats are all bad and republicans are all good. Thank you for snapping me out it.

Posted by: ModerateVoter | September 17, 2009 12:45 PM | Report abuse

___________

Congratulations President Bush!
Well deserved!
You took over after Clinton handed you a recession and a declining stock market and then 9/11. But you turned that around in the midst of the liberal media constantly trashing you and providing propaganda for the ignorant that actually believed them.
No attacks after 9/11, low unemployment, TAX CUTS that stimulated the economy, low inflation, record high stock market, stable interest rates, low debt to GNP ratio, still a good flow of oil which is a MAJOR part of our economic engine…this is in spite of insane members of the Democratic party trying to stop this flow by their stance of no drilling, no refineries, no nuclear, complicated formulations for different states, all which caused a rise in energy costs and EVERY thing along with it. And yes good things are happening in Iraq thanks to the bravest and the finest MEN in the world. Stability and a Democratic country are HUGE in the ME for the world’s sake. All this and more in spite of Democrats that are still trying to surrender amidst victory and along with a media that trashes him daily. Damn good for having to drag the dead weight of all the naysayers.
Years of Democrat Damage:
Democrats in congress are responsible for the biggest failure in the last 60 years:
Two Really Bad Policies:
1} blocking ALL new practical domestic energy in an ever increasing worldwide need for more energy. This drove up the cost of EVERYTHING causing businesses to contract, consumers to stop consuming and tenuous loans to crater
2} Pressuring, for years, institutions into making loans to people that either could not pay them back or just barely pay them back. They labeled institutions as Red Lining for NOT doing this. They also turned FNMA into a welfare program and when the energy prices tripled it pushed those tenuous loans over the cliff pouring toxic assets in the credit markets.
When the Democrats took over congress 2 years ago, the economy headed south.


Congratulations to the President and our brave soldiers.

Yes, Congratulations President Bush and remember when the media pimps and the WP Parrots continuously attack you for every wrong that exists , it’s called Bush Derangement Syndrome and one day medical science may find a cure for this debilitating disease.

Posted by: ekim53 | September 17, 2009 12:51 PM | Report abuse

But Bob, the left doesn't believe in the pragmatic moderate center.

They believe there is only: their supporters;and the racist, radical, right wing "birther" crowd.

Despite every election in recent memory being decided by the middle, we don't exist in their eyes.

It's only their way, or the wrong way, and they'll continue that line until they're voted out of office.

When that happens, they'll continue to lump us all in together and label us as racist.

These guys simply cannot get around the "victim" mentality, it's in their very fabric.

Posted by: owebama | September 17, 2009 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Sons of the Confederacy... danger for Republicans (Joe Wilson et al)? Two can play this game all day long.

Posted by: clintatl | September 17, 2009 12:50 PM | Report abuse

owebama: oooh, outraged senators. My, my.

If Fox's set-up of Acorn is true, everyone finds the incident disturbing. Like 100 forgotten disturbing things that happened yesterday and the 100 more disturbing things that will happen before the next election.

Meanwhile, not everyone buys the psycho-fringe's argument that Acorn is some sort of Obama-led paramilitary group out to kidnap white children and sell them to arabs while running up our debt and killing grandma. That exists only in your ugly little fantasy universe . . . "pal."

Posted by: nodebris | September 17, 2009 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Right on Blackwater.

Maybe Republicans will claim ACORN stole the $12 billion in Iraq.

Posted by: edlharris | September 17, 2009 12:46 PM | Report abuse

ekim53 thank you for reminding me what a bang up job the republicans did over the last 8 years. How could I have forgotten all that they did for us. I understand now....

Democrats are all bad and republicans are all good. Thank you for snapping me out it.

Posted by: ModerateVoter | September 17, 2009 12:45 PM | Report abuse

This whole article is written as to how to provide cover/save the demonkrats butt. I have learned to expect nothing more from the Washington Post. However, I would have thought that felony lawsuits in 14 states and now the expose of BH O'Carter's old employer (ACORN) video tape would have occasioned some "investigative journalism" vs the "horror" revelation of the impact on demonkrats. Good Grief!

Posted by: IQ168 | September 17, 2009 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Blind idealogically driven support for ACORN and its full menu of corrupt practices should be punished at the polls just as blind support for Halliburton, et al and their corruption should.

Corruption, fraud and wasteful spending by a government which fails to oversee and protect the public's investment in these non-governmental entities should be punished to the full extent of the law regardless if it comes from left or right.

It is time we the pragamatic moderate center of Americans raise our voices against corruption of any kind. Anything less is as hypocritcal as the politicians we elect and allow to ignore the corruption occuring on their watch.

Posted by: bobfbell | September 17, 2009 12:37 PM | Report abuse

"How much trouble are Democrats in from Acorn?

Well, I'd say they've definitely lost the paranoid right-wing vote, Beck fans, and Limbaugh listeners. Dang!

Everyone else: not so much."

Keep telling yourself this pal.

Do you honestly believe that only the kook fringe is outraged?I know of 83 senators that would disagree with you on this.

In case you haven't noticed, our country is in the middle of an economic crisis, and your boy, is spending like a kid in a candy store..with little or no regard to the damage he's doing to our economy and way of life.

He and his radical cronies are signing their own pink slips.

I would have thought someone as smart as Obama would know better, but I guess when you're an ideologue, common sense gets thrown out the window.

Posted by: owebama | September 17, 2009 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Of course, not shown on the biggovernment.com website were the many ACORN offices they visited who told the actors to go F--- themselves when they asked the questions they did. This team of "undercover investigators" were about as fair and balanced as FauxNews.

But what else do you want from the birther/deather crowd. They are in full psychotic obsession mode right now.

Posted by: B2O2 | September 17, 2009 12:35 PM | Report abuse

FNMA-Major Toxic Asset Generator

ACORN-Major Toxic Asset Generator

RED LINING- The very beginning scream of liberals in getting lending institutions to make Tenuous Loans

FAIR LENDING LAWS- forced lending institutions to make tenuous loans that snow balled and then bundled in Wall Street deals

TRIPLING ENERGY COSTS. Caused by Democrats who years blocked ALL practical Domestic sources of energy at a time when energy was in high world demand

TRIPLING ENERGY COSTS caused businesses to contract(Layoffs),Automobile Manufactures to go belly up and a downward spiral of the economy (Energy Rules) AND ALL THOSE TENUOUS LOANS TURNED TO TOXIC ASSETS! CRISIS

UNDER REGULATED- Phony Democrat Shield in an attempt to protect their INCOMPETENCE AND THEIR MEDDLING IN THE CREDIT MARKETS.


Obama/Pelosi/Reid/Democrats ALL incompetent and NOT TRUSTWORTHY to do ANYTHING.

KEEP UP THE IN YOUR PROTESTS, AMERICA IT'S WORKING

Posted by: ekim53 | September 17, 2009 12:35 PM | Report abuse

ACORN - yawn

This is next week's made up Republican "outrage." Just like this week's made up outrage was the Czars. It's boring because it's so fake. Funny I didn't hear the Republicans get all up in arms about the Young Political Majors group, whose founder has been indicted for misleading voter registration efforts. I wonder why we never heard any of this 'grassroots outrage' over them if they're doing the same thing that they say ACORN is doing? Oh yes, the Young Political Majors was a REpublican group.

Like I said Yawn. Chris I hope you can come back tomorrow with some real news!

Posted by: dre7861 | September 17, 2009 12:34 PM | Report abuse

the ACORN story in itself will not be the downfall of the administration. but like previous presidents it begins to form an image in the voters mind. Add this to Van Jones, czars, Rev Wright, cops are racists, docters are greedy, and on and on.

the slow trickle of never-ending stories wiht this flavor will continue to drive the Present edent's ratings down and down. He will be branded. Just like Clinton is known for cheating with interns more than anything else and Carter is known for gas lines, sweaters and indecision/failure. Reagan was known for beating communism and Bush 1 was branded a tax raiser, not a lip reader.

Barry is going to end up as a flim flam artist, no actual accomplishments, despite the promise and hope.

Dems will try to say he went down becuase of his race, but the fact is, it is because he never did asnything he promised during the campaign. He campaigned as a centrist and immediately went far left. those on the left don;t see it because he remains to the right of them. Scary.

Posted by: snowbama | September 17, 2009 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Acorn will chame its name to Shame and will continue for those honest dems.beck wins ,Van Jones ,Acorn ,who will follow.

Posted by: dcg326 | September 17, 2009 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Chris,

Acorn is no more a Danger to Democrats or the American people than:

1. Folks working in the U.S. Congress.
2. Folks working on Wall Street.
3. Folks working in the Mortgage Banking Industry.
4. Folks working for Freddie and Fannie.
5. Folks working in our Federal and State Gov'ts.
6. Folks working in the military.

With that said, what are we going to do, dismantle a whole organization just because there are a few BAD APPLES in the bunch that brings shame on a whole organization. I don't think so, because if that were the case we need to start with the CONGRESS first.

The best thing that ACORN can and should do, now that these accusations have been brought to light, by a couple of hustlers is to allow the heads of ACORN to run a full investigation into these accusations and clean up their house of corrupted individuals.

After all, I am sure that this organization does some good work for those poor people who do not have the know how or the tools to navigate through the countries entangled network of businesses and political systems.

Finally, do not delete my post. Every time I post on your little blog, you always delete it.

Posted by: lcarter0311 | September 17, 2009 12:29 PM | Report abuse

As the right-wing-neo-nutzi-conservatives will do absolutely anything (especially if it's immoral or illegal) in order to win a few points am I the only one who smells a set up? The rabid right has no conception or right or wrong, only win or lose. Investigate the so-called "members" of Acorn involved and you'll find the GOP/RNC's fingerprints all over them.

Posted by: Bushwhacked1 | September 17, 2009 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Are you really this stup1d??? Like it's even possible to steal an election...
Posted by: askgees | September 17, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse
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Ha-ha-ha-ha! How quickly the Repugs like askgees forget their own handiwork! C'mon, you should show some pride in your dirty work! It really was some brilliant - though nasty - election fraud. Ball's in OUR court now, however.

Well, keep pushing this ACORN thing. You will keep your base riled up and keep 'em busy while the rest of us try to get something good done elsewhere.

As you were!

Posted by: JC505 | September 17, 2009 12:09 PM | Report abuse


Stealing an election is like stealing China. IT'S NOT POSSIBLE unless you have the more than 1 million people in FL in your pocket. Sorry but you lost. That doesn't make it stealing it just means most people already new Gore and Kerry we're horrible canidates. But then again you are brain dead so I wouldn't expect any think different from you. It would be no more insane to say Obama stole the election. DOLT!!!! Now back to you're parents basement.

Posted by: askgees | September 17, 2009 12:22 PM | Report abuse

I had no idea that ACORN was so incredibly evil. Thank you FOX news for exposing this and saving us all from ruin. I wonder if ACORN had anything to do with global warming or H1N1?

Posted by: ModerateVoter | September 17, 2009 12:21 PM | Report abuse

How much trouble are Democrats in from Acorn?

Well, I'd say they've definitely lost the paranoid right-wing vote, Beck fans, and Limbaugh listeners. Dang!

Everyone else: not so much.

Posted by: nodebris | September 17, 2009 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Danger for Democrats? Only to the extent that hacks like Cilizza give the ludicrous attacks play and credibility. How many right wing organizations are there out there that really ARE dangerous -- but reporters twiddle their thumbs and stare into the air as they spew their borderline treasonous garbage?

It's up to "journalists" like you, Cilizza, not to take the bait of republicans who would use it as a "cudgel." Earth to Cilizza: Republicans are looking for ANY cudgel they can find, and they'll keep trying until "journalists" such as yourself bite.

Posted by: monk4hall | September 17, 2009 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like some one was following Obama to closely (butt) when Obama stop he didn't and his head went right up O's @zz. Talk about stup1d.

Posted by: askgees | September 17, 2009 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Obama has ACORNS and Wilson has BALLS.

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Posted by: ekim53 | September 17, 2009 12:14 PM | Report abuse

"As to ACORN and the housing crisis:..."

Acorn, in literally hundreds of cases, used their influence to strong-arm banks into abandoning risk assessment and into making loans based on skin color rather than economic qualifications.

Used charges of "Racism" to block banks from expanding and opening new branches.

Banks were forced to raise their CRA rating (make loans to unqualified buyers)in order to be let off the hook.

This isn't a community organization, it's a political organization whose motivations are perfectly clear.

Is it a surprise to anyone that despite receiving only $53 million in federal funding since their inception, they are now slated to receive $8 BILLION in federal funding from the Obama administration?

Watch how quickly this administration turns on its "friends" now that their corruption is out in the open.

Obama has no intention of "taking on the special interests" as he promised during his campaign. No way, he's far too involved with them.

Fortunately, this is one bedfellow he can no longer keep hidden under his pillow.

Posted by: owebama | September 17, 2009 12:13 PM | Report abuse

I find ekim53's comments particularly "interesting". Nice dust up in this blog today. Fun reading

Posted by: ModerateVoter | September 17, 2009 12:10 PM | Report abuse

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Are you really this stup1d??? Like it's even possible to steal an election...
Posted by: askgees | September 17, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse
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Ha-ha-ha-ha! How quickly the Repugs like askgees forget their own handiwork! C'mon, you should show some pride in your dirty work! It really was some brilliant - though nasty - election fraud. Ball's in OUR court now, however.

Well, keep pushing this ACORN thing. You will keep your base riled up and keep 'em busy while the rest of us try to get something good done elsewhere.

As you were!

Posted by: JC505 | September 17, 2009 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Note that I predicted snowclue's idiotic rant at 9:23.

Poland and the Czech Republic weren't going to be protected by Bush's Missile Shield. They were to be placed there to protect Europe from Iran, supposedly. Bush was strong-arming them to agree to the placement, which put a big bullseye on the emplacements as far as Russia was concerned.

As the Poles and Czechs how they feel about it before rushing to their "defense."

Posted by: mikeinmidland | September 17, 2009 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Acorns never fall far from their tree. This organization sounds like a Marxist cancer designed to destroy American society from the inside. It gains its energy by sucking the life blood of the American middle class who are those Americans who still pay taxes. Acorn's goal is to seize contol of America and destroy middle class society. This cancer has Rev. Wright and Obama written all over it. The therapy for this malignant growth is publicity, the vote, and universal taxation so that we are all stakeholders in our society.

Posted by: iamafg | September 17, 2009 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Well, i guess the libs would like us to go away.
WE WON'T

Posted by: jdeldin | September 17, 2009 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Define "controversy." According to this piece there is an "ongoing controversy" about ACORN. So is it a controversy when a highly partisan group, with a nakedly partisan agenda, tries to demonize a group on the other side? Does that make it "controversial?" I think not.

This is republicans -- desperate to get back in power -- scratching and biting like cornered rats to trying to find SOMETHING, ANYTHING they think will make the other side look bad.

Is that a "controversy?

I mean, seriously. How big a hacks ARE you guys at the Post. Have some skepticism for God's sakes.

Posted by: monk4hall | September 17, 2009 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Prediction

ACORN will just Change their name and the Democrats and Media Pimps will keep ignoring the problem.

KEEP UP THE IN YOUR FACE PROTESTS, AMERICANS, IT'S THE ONLY WAY THE TRUTH WILL BE HEARD.

Posted by: ekim53 | September 17, 2009 12:05 PM | Report abuse

In the interest of public disclosure:

Obama represented ACORN in ONE case. In that 1995 case, ACORN was on the same side as the League of Women Voters and (wait for it) the Justice Department.

Posted by: mikeinmidland | September 17, 2009 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Acorn is only a small pice of the big picture. Everything, from the cost of soup to how long it takes bread to bake, it's all a left wing conspiracy against Christians and conservatives.

Ever notice how long the traffic signal is for a conservative? Or how about the Don't Walk signal, liberals seem to be given all day but when a conservative approaches, suddenly it warns you to stop.

Or how about lines at the movie theatre? Why is it only liberals can buy through advance ticket sales. Ever notice how conservatives are cheated out of butter on their popcorn?

Acorn is only a blip on the radar screen compared to all these bigger problems that will soon expose Obama.

Posted by: ScottChallenger | September 17, 2009 12:04 PM | Report abuse


Why are all rightwingers illiterate?

Is it just low IQ? Bad parenting?

Posted by: drindl | September 17, 2009 11:56 AM | Report abuse


Did you come up with that all by you're self??? LIB T@RDS are at least entertaining.

Posted by: askgees | September 17, 2009 12:03 PM | Report abuse


Danger for Democrats? Only to the extent that hacks like Cilizza give the ludicrous attacks play and credibility. How many right wing organizations are there out there that really ARE dangerous -- but reporters twiddle their thumbs and stare into the air as they spew their borderline treasonous garbage?

It's up to "journalists" like you, Cilizza, not to take the bait of republicans who would use it as a "cudgel." Earth to Cilizza: Republicans are looking for ANY cudgel they can find, and they'll keep trying until "journalists" such as yourself bite.

Posted by: monk4hall | September 17, 2009 12:01 PM | Report abuse

It seems the past is beginning to catch up with Messiah. all those unreported stories from last year are trickling up from the chicago sewer. looking like one and out now. Maybe Jimmy won't have to sell his soul to remove himself from the worst president ever list. Barry is going to take the prize. I guess Bill Clinton is happy. He carries a long grudge. but he WAS reelected.

and since his health care was also defeated, he must have been the first black president after all.

Posted by: snowbama | September 17, 2009 12:01 PM | Report abuse

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"If the Democrats continue to ignore the apparent fraud taking place with taxpayer money, they will pay a price politically," predicted former Florida governor Jeb Bush (R) in an e-mail exchange with the Fix late Wednesday.
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Ooooooooooooooooh!

Jeb Bush, the criminal who helped steal the 2000 presidential election in Florida talking FRAUD!

Well, you can't deny he knows his subject well!

Now THAT'S rich!

Posted by: JC505 | September 17, 2009 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Are you really this stup1d??? Like it's even possible to steal an election. LOL Even make such a claim is sad Not to mention they lost EVERY COURT CHALLENGE. . LOL Do you by Reynolds Aluminum foil in bulk???

A brilliant post by another ACORN freak.


Posted by: askgees | September 17, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

I recall a time when major newspapers and television news would jump at the opportunity to research and report on governmental scandals like the one ACORN represents. But that was before the liberal press undertook to protect their own and attack only the opposition. It took Fox to uncover the operation. How do many of Fox's competitors react?- why, they attack Fox, of course. It is no wonder readership of once reputable newspapers is in the tank.

Posted by: mhr614 | September 17, 2009 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Wow lots of over the tops posts....very entertaining.

Anyway ACORN is dead. It will never survive.

Posted by: ModerateVoter | September 17, 2009 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Why are all rightwingers illiterate?

Is it just low IQ? Bad parenting?

Posted by: drindl | September 17, 2009 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Nice friends you have, Hussein. You handed a victory to the GOP in 2010 and 2012.

Posted by: ANTILIB | September 17, 2009 11:55 AM | Report abuse

ACORN IS OBAMA'S ENRON. If you consider all the Toxic Assets they've pumped into FNMA, they dwarf the damage of Enron.

Media Pimps get off your Butts...that is remove your lips from Obama's butt.

Posted by: ekim53 | September 17, 2009 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Pawlenty is just another Bush. Shooting from the hip and not checking facts. ACORN does not receive funding from Minnesota. There is a related post at http://iamsoannoyed.com/?page_id=588

Posted by: carlyt | September 17, 2009 7:37 AM | Report abuse


And yet the GOV. his self froze funds. Go back to your boss at the NUTHOUSE and tell them that as usual you failed. Tomorrow you will be unemployed and the day after locked up. But at least you know its coming.

Posted by: askgees | September 17, 2009 11:53 AM | Report abuse

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"If the Democrats continue to ignore the apparent fraud taking place with taxpayer money, they will pay a price politically," predicted former Florida governor Jeb Bush (R) in an e-mail exchange with the Fix late Wednesday.
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Ooooooooooooooooh!

Jeb Bush, the criminal who helped steal the 2000 presidential election in Florida talking FRAUD!

Well, you can't deny he knows his subject well!


Now THAT'S rich!

Posted by: JC505 | September 17, 2009 11:53 AM | Report abuse

We can only go by what a person said.President Obama stated (look at the people that surround me) or words to that effect. Well there are tax cheats, Commies,left wing radicals, Voter fraud and close there eye to children prostitution groups, crooked union groups. One can only wonder about our President??????

Posted by: cj362810 | September 17, 2009 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Barack Obama is to ditch his predecessor's plans to deploy a missile defence shield in Poland and the Czech Republic after fierce opposition from the Kremlin. The decision, confirmed this morning by the government of the Czech Republic, provoked dismay in Eastern and Central Europe, where the planned shield had been seen as a guarantee of US support for the fledgling democracies of the old Soviet Bloc.


Obambi surrenders to Russia. throws Poland and Czech to the wolves. who's next?

Posted by: snowbama | September 17, 2009 11:48 AM | Report abuse

As to ACORN and the housing crisis:

1) At most ACORN is an advocate. They have no role in voting legislation or making policy.

2) Unlike lobbying groups, they do not make donations to congressmen to influence votes.

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BS, They've got millions through their government connections through Reps, FNMA, and now OBAMA himself

Posted by: ekim53 | September 17, 2009 11:46 AM | Report abuse

I sure do miss that guy Obama. He sure used to give great speeches. I wish he was on television more. I could watch him non-stop.

Posted by: snowbama | September 17, 2009 11:45 AM | Report abuse

"America thanks you Beck and Wilson and private citizens!"

How can you trash the mainstream media in one post and then laud Glen Beck the very next post.

Posted by: DDAWD | September 17, 2009 11:44 AM | Report abuse

There probably will not be any real fallout from ACORNgate so long as the syncophantic, Left-wing media keeps stonewalling the truth about the corruption at ACORN.

Posted by: AnAmericanFirst | September 17, 2009 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Kennedy Townsend downplayed the criticism. The former lieutenant governor said she will help advise ACORN "because they're under an enormous attack by Fox. . . . But ACORN is critical to the well-being of thousands of people across the United States. . . .
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"enormous attack by Fox"?
Yes Kennedy, playing back the words and actions of ACORN’s very own staff is attacking...ROFL

"ACORN is critical to the well-being of thousands"?
Yes, I guess tax cheating can benefit anybody's wallet. And we need more people that can't afford to pay for homes adding to the plethora of TOXIC ASSETS that the Democrat controlled FNMA has already pumped out, killing the credit markets and causing this crisis.
THE CRIMINAL GROUP ACORN MUST GO AND TAKE KENNEDY TOWNSEND WITH YOU

Posted by: ekim53 | September 17, 2009 11:42 AM | Report abuse

As to ACORN and the housing crisis:

1) At most ACORN is an advocate. They have no role in voting legislation or making policy.

2) Unlike lobbying groups, they do not make donations to congressmen to influence votes.

3) It was the greed of the mortgage-writers and the complete lack of oversight that led to the mortgage crisis.

Posted by: mikeinmidland | September 17, 2009 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Note to Dems: This s h*t storm for you has only just begun. After ACORN is completely eviscerated (thus taking away one of your major "grass roots organizing"--aka thug muscle-- election groups... ALL THAT PAPER CONNECTING ACORN TO TOP DEM LEADERS INCLUDING OBAMA -- who worked as an ACORN lawyer in Chicago -- is going to start surfacing.

Too bad your cronies in the establishment media can no longer cover for you, all of their ratings are in the tank and FOX is now the loudest voice with the best ratings. (The ACORN story proves this).

Your corruption is about to be exposed over the next several months. Prepare to reap the whirlwind in 2010

Posted by: TonyV1 | September 17, 2009 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Regarding the CBC: There are over 30 caucuses in Congress. There's a "Congressional Czech Congress"--no black members there. Nor in the "Suburban Caucus" founded by Rep. Mark Kirk (R-IL).

Posted by: mikeinmidland | September 17, 2009 11:36 AM | Report abuse

((( O-BA-A-MA NE-E-ED A-A-CORNNN AN-N-ND
A-A-ACOR-R-RN NE-E-ED O-BA-MA-A YE-E-ESS ! ))))

don't forget it either !

Posted by: noHUCKABEEnoVOTE | September 17, 2009 11:30 AM | Report abuse

My my my. Start talking about acorns and a whole bunch of nuts fall to the ground.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | September 17, 2009 11:25 AM | Report abuse

ACORN is a racist and corrupted organization that played a great role in our housing crisis. Why is the brainwashed radical left trying to excuse and dismiss all evidence?

Posted by: jmk55 | September 17, 2009 11:24 AM | Report abuse

fmjk -- ACORN employs minorities to do outreach work in disadvantaged communities, sometimes using public money. The "Conservative hot button words" I used were:

*ACORN (Lying Socialists trying to get our stuff)
*minorities (unemployed or illegal dark-skinned people)
*outreach work (points minorities to *social programs (so they can loaf and out-vote Americans)
*disadvantaged communities (neighborhoods we don't want to know about)
*public money (that could be going to KBR or Health Insurers instead).

Barak Hussein Obama is directly responsible for everything it does.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | September 17, 2009 11:20 AM | Report abuse

Obama needs to explain his relationship with ACORN as their trainer, attorney, and claiming that "ACORN will shape his presidential agenda".

Posted by: bingham60 | September 17, 2009 11:15 AM | Report abuse

How many incidents of fraudulent voting--not fraudulent registration--occurred because of ACORN?

None.

How many times has ACORN voluntarily contacted the authorities about misdeeds by ACORN volunteers?

Plenty.

I rest my case.

Posted by: Garak | September 17, 2009 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Oh, my. When people start claiming that CC is kissing up to Obama, you know the Drudge dregs are indeed out in force.

FYI, ekim53, The Fix is about politics. Not policy, but only the political implications of that policy. And certainly not the welfare of the American people.

Posted by: mikeinmidland | September 17, 2009 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Is this going to be the next right-wing brohaha?

Well, let them get steamed up, carry around sick posters, and yell and scream some more.

Meanwhile, maybe we can get health care reform passed.

Posted by: guitar1 | September 17, 2009 11:11 AM | Report abuse

RE: Rick Lazio and Rick Santorum:

(What is it about people named 'Rick'??)

Hope, apparently, springs eternal, but neither of the pair stands much of a chance. Their political handlers stand to get richer, but in Lazio's case, he's regarded as not only a lightweight, but his 'invading Hilary's space'-moment will be replayed endlessly--it will put Geo. Allen's 'Macaca moment' if not quite into the shade, at least as an unfortunate counterpoint.

As for former Sen. Rick 'man-on-dog'/'Terry Schiavo' Santorum, he has clearly learnt nothing to judge by his recent utterances. He'll need to either reinvent himself (but at what peril to the far Right base?) or openly go so far to the Right (if that's possible), that he'd doom himself in the general, if he's to stand even a slim chance.

T-Paw has, of course, the opposite problem: try as he may, he's just too centrist and 'reasonable' (in context, of course) to win the nomination until the Radical Right loosens its deathgrip on the Repub. party.

Posted by: sverigegrabb | September 17, 2009 11:11 AM | Report abuse

ROFL It looks like a lot of ACORN criminals showed up to day. It doesn't take long to spot the ignorant ones who just attack the messenger.

ACORN IS A CRIMINAL GROUP WHO ARE A PART OF THE TOXIC ASSET GENERATOR FNMA, VOTER FRAUD AND STEALING FROM TAX PAYERS.
CLOSE THEM DOWN!

Posted by: ekim53 | September 17, 2009 10:52 AM
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ACORN is a successful nationwide voter registration group, which is why the Yahoos are after it. A couple of bad apples misbehaved. They were immediately dealt with by ACORN. As responsible journalists concluded, there is no story.
You don't shut down Bank of America because a bank teller in its El Paso branch stole $5.00 from petty cash. Good grief--another Faux News fake controversy.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | September 17, 2009 11:10 AM | Report abuse

America thanks you Beck and Wilson and private citizens!

YOU'VE TRUMPED ALL the media pimps, ALL of Obama's staff in VETTING OBAMA'S MARXISTS, RACIST LOONY UNELECTED CZARS AND YES, OBAMA HIMSELF AND OBAMA'S THUG GROUP ACORN.

CONGRATULATIONS, and KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. Somebody has to do the work the media FAILS to do.

Posted by: ekim53 | September 17, 2009 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Cillizza, it's nice to see you concerned more about the damage to Democrats than to the tax payers wallets by these criminal groups.
I see you still have your lips attached firmly to Obama's butt.
It's because of media pimps like you that Obama has to be interrupted with 2 words of truth. Since the mainstream media has abandoned all journalist ethics and trashed all campaign finance reform laws and are kissing Obama butt big time, SOMEBODY has to report the news.

Posted by: ekim53 | September 17, 2009 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Maybe one of the people writing in to excoriate ACORN can explain why it has become such a rallying point. Do any of you actually know what ACORN is or what it does? And even if it is evil incarnate, what does that have to do with the Obama administration? ACORN was active in registering voters, but that doesn't give them a seat at the table. Why exactly does FOX keep pounding the drum night after night? Assuming that some in the organization, such as the folks caught on tape, were involved in misdeeds, what relevance does that have to anything other than whether it is or is not a well run group?

Posted by: fmjk | September 17, 2009 11:02 AM | Report abuse

ACORN does not deserve a dime or penny of tax-payer money.

Another Beltway Bandit siphoning off tax payer cash and to line its own pockets and promote it own agendas.

Here's an idea... Let's put Van Jones in charge of ACORN.

Posted by: ravioliman6666 | September 17, 2009 11:02 AM | Report abuse

d: I didn't catch that story. I guess this craziness is now so common they don't bother reporting it. IMO, BHO needs to pushback hard against this madness, but...oh, well.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | September 17, 2009 11:02 AM | Report abuse


This place is a filthy sewer today, just like every day the Fix so blatantly kisses the as& of Drudge.

god save this country from the hordes of rightwing morons.

Posted by: drindl | September 17, 2009 11:01 AM | Report abuse

It would be even better if Obama is caught on tape calling the undercover reporter a "Jack@ss!"

Posted by: JakeD | September 17, 2009 10:58 AM | Report abuse

The Birther Queen gets contempt:

In an interview with TPM just now, Birther evangelist Orly Taitz fired back at Clay Land, the U.S. district court judge who tore apart Birtherism and threatened Taitz with sanctions in an order today, saying that "somebody should consider trying [the judge] for treason and aiding and abetting this massive fraud known as Barack Hussein Obama."

The withering 14-page order by Land, a George W. Bush appointee, tossed out a "birther soldier" case brought by Taitz and Army Capt. Connie Rhodes, who wants to defy a deployment order because she believes Barack Obama does not legitimately possess the presidency.

A clearly frustrated Land called Taitz's suit -- the second filed in the Middle District of Georgia -- "frivolous" and threatened her with sanctions if she kept at it."

Posted by: drindl | September 17, 2009 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Have any of you seen the hidden videos? They are bad. Really bad. This is indeed a story. Now I suppose the question is whether these guys will be successfully tied to Obama and the Democratic party. I suspect it's not that difficult to do so. The mainstream press have been pushing this connection for well over a year now. They flat out lied when saying that these guys committed election fraud. There was no attempt to correct the record. This really hasn't stopped since the election.

Do you guys really expect the press to start giving some context to the story now after a year of flat out lying?

Posted by: DDAWD | September 17, 2009 10:57 AM | Report abuse

ACORN is a good start.

How about exposing the CBC next.

Federal funding to a group that denies membership based on race -- to further a racial agenda. Yeah, very American. Law makers no less.

How about a group of white law makers getting federal funding to push race discrimination laws too? Oh, I forgot, that was 1925 and the klan.

Posted by: ram_xxx_ram | September 17, 2009 10:55 AM | Report abuse

EPIDEMIC OF BUSH-ERA MEDIA MANIPULATION AND CENSORSHIP CONTINUES UNDER (NAIVE?) TEAM OBAMA

Do the same "programs" that contrive media fodder such as the ACORN video "expose" also censor internet political blogs -- using national security as a pretext to harass and censor American citizens via their telecommunications?

Since it happened again this morning, I would like to recommend that 'Fix' readers visit the following ACLU link, scroll to the bottom and read up:

http://blog.aclu.org/2009/01/26/internet-filters-voluntary-ok-not-government-mandate

More evidence that we are living in a police state that exercises draconian censorship, then allows a post like this one to go through so its operatives can maintain their transparent "plausible deniability."

Please join me, Fix readers, in a campaign of daily resistance to this American Gestapo and an affront to restore democracy and the rule of law in an America corrupted by eight years of the Bush-Cheney Reign of Terror.

Posted by: scrivener50 | September 17, 2009 10:53 AM | Report abuse

ROFL It looks like a lot of ACORN criminals showed up to day. It doesn't take long to spot the ignorant ones who just attack the messenger.

ACORN IS A CRIMINAL GROUP WHO ARE A PART OF THE TOXIC ASSET GENERATOR FNMA, VOTER FRAUD AND STEALING FROM TAX PAYERS.
CLOSE THEM DOWN!

Posted by: ekim53 | September 17, 2009 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Chris,

ACORN definitely deserves all that has and will happen to it--for shoddy oversight if nothing else. Let's hope that IF they are exonerated, as much will be made of that event.

If the D.s don't realise the potential peril, then they're even more stupid than Max Baucus!

Posted by: sverigegrabb | September 17, 2009 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Errata: Checklist (5)

Posted by: broadwayjoe | September 17, 2009 10:51 AM | Report abuse

--here's the kind of nuts we have loose in this country:

When 32-year-old Josh Hendrickson left his house for a protest outside President Obama's health care rally in Minneapolis Saturday, he considered whether to go armed.

When he typically goes out, he told the Star-Tribune, "I grab my wallet, my keys and my gun."

Make that two guns.

Hendrickson showed up to the event with a Glock in a holster, and a Kel Tec 380 -- known for its light weight and "manageable recoil" -- in his back pocket. The local police and the Secret Service question Hendrickson after seeing the outline of a gun in his camo shirt, he said.

But, Hendrickson told the Star-Tribune he was not inspired by the gun-toters who showed up to Obama events in August. He just wanted to make the same point they wanted to make: "The Second Amendment isn't suspended just because the president's in town."

Hendrickson then revealed to the Strib reporter that he recently got out of jail:

"I'm a pretty laid-back guy that loves his kids and his country," Hendrickson said.

He added, however, that he had just been released from jail a month earlier on an assault charge for pepper-spraying a customer at a Cub Foods in Brooklyn Center, where he worked as a security guard.

Posted by: drindl | September 17, 2009 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Checklist today (6):

Fake anti-BHO controversy. Check

No positive mention of the President (despite rising approval numbers (DailyKos, 56%)) in all legit, non-Rasmussen polls). Check

Dems in trouble. Check.

Pawlenty in 2012. Check.

Santorum (voted out of Senate when he lost by 20 points!) in 2012. Check.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | September 17, 2009 10:49 AM | Report abuse

ACORN's Goose is cooked.

Reading about corruption is one thing, but seeing it play out on tape is another.

The tactic of trying to besmirch the two filmakers won't work. They come across as real people in the interviews motivated by idealism. Any Democratic Congressman would be crazy to personally attack them when parents across the country are holding them up as role models for their own children.

The really interesting thing about this is that ACORN has been an intrinsic part of many Democratic political campaigns.

What dirt does ACORN have on which Dem politicians?
How will ACORN use that dirt?
Who will ACORN bring down with them when ACORN's government money gets cut off?

When you lay down with pigs, you get dirty. A lot of Dem politicians have been in the ACORN pig pen a long time.

The initial legal investigations will probably be by State prosecutors. The Dem Congress won't do anything. They just want this to go away. Nancy Pelosi pretended yesterday she knew nothing about what the Senate vote. Expect to hear a lot about how Dems don't really know what's going on with ACORN.

After the 2010 elections, the Republicans will start holding hearings based information the State prosecutors dig up. Eventually, a Special Prosecuter will probably be required. So many Administration officials and Congressmen have had long term dealings with ACORN, its impossible to trust an ordinary Justice Department investigation. I'm not even talking about the President himself. The rest of the Administration is up to their eyeballs in ACORN dealings.

Note that the two Senators from Illinois were among the seven Senators, who voted to protect ACORN when the Senate voted to defund. They don't want to cross ACORN.

Posted by: jfv123 | September 17, 2009 10:48 AM | Report abuse

s you probably know by now, last week two conservative activists set off a frenzy in the right-wing media by posting videos in which they posed as a pimp and a prostitute -- complete with outlandish costumes -- and asked employees of ACORN for advice on how to conceal the woman's source of income on their tax forms. ACORN employees in Baltimore, Washington D.C., and Brooklyn, fell for the sting, offering advice to the young couple on how to deceive the government.

ACORN fired the employees involved, but that hasn't stopped coverage of the scandal from mushrooming beyond Fox's Glenn Beck and quickly going mainstream.

The reaction from Washington has been just as swift:

• The Census Bureau announced late last week that it would stop using ACORN as one of the 80,000 unpaid groups it works with to promote the 2010 census.

• On Monday, the Senate voted 83 to 7 to block the Department of Housing and Urban Development from giving federal housing money to ACORN.

• Yesterday, GOP House leader John Boehner wrote to President Obama, urging him to cut off all federal money to ACORN and its affiliates.

• Nebraska GOP senator Mike Johanns has called for a Justice Department investigation of the group.

• White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs has called the employees' behavior "unacceptable."

• And even GOP senator David Vitter -- no stranger to prostitution scandals -- has expressed his outrage.

In pushing back, ACORN has said it's considering suing Fox and the conservative film-makers for using a hidden camera to record the ACORN employees, which is illegal in some states. It also has charged that the film-makers tried their scam on other ACORN offices, but after not getting the responses they hoped for, didn't post the videos.

Posted by: drindl | September 17, 2009 10:48 AM | Report abuse


Racist McCarthyism is what Faux News is promulgating here!

Smash the right wing cabal and call them out for their witch hunts!!!!

Yeagh!
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You're exposing your ignorance to America here. FOX just plays back the words of the Democrat criminals.

Now, go back to ACORN and tell them you FAILED again.

Posted by: ekim53 | September 17, 2009 10:47 AM | Report abuse

This once useful agency from long, long ago has lost its way. It has joined the ranks of Blackwater and Wackenhut where dishonor and disgrace rule the day.

This agency needs to be turned upside down and shaken until all the bad apples have fallen out of the tree, forever removed.

I'm sure it was at one time a legitimate cause with honorable hard working people, unlike Blackwater and Wackenhut...lol

I have yet to see naked people displayed in obscene postures as we did with Wackenhut...don't forget the trail of dead bodies including our own left by Blackwater.

Posted by: MyTwoCents4 | September 17, 2009 10:46 AM | Report abuse

the acorn opponents are a type of nut, yes.

Posted by: drindl | September 17, 2009 10:45 AM | Report abuse

So does this mean that ALL employees of ACORN are involved in a sex ring? Probably not. The emphasis should be on what ACORN has done for the community.
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We can see what they've done for the community...they've made even more DemocRAT TAX CHEATS. Isn't there enough in Obama world.

Posted by: ekim53 | September 17, 2009 10:43 AM | Report abuse

This is what I mean by the Overton Window in rhetoric. Making racism acceptable again:

'hate radio host Rush Limbaugh jumped on the story and claimed that in “Obama’s America the white kids now get beat up.” Yesterday, Limbaugh proposed a solution to this problem — a return to segregated busing:

LIMBAUGH: I think the guy’s wrong. I think not only it was racism, it was justifiable racism. I mean, that’s the lesson we’re being taught here today. Kid shouldn’t have been on the bus anyway. We need segregated buses."

Posted by: drindl | September 17, 2009 10:40 AM | Report abuse

Racist McCarthyism is what Faux News is promulgating here!

Smash the right wing cabal and call them out for their witch hunts!!!!

Yeagh!

Posted by: bs2004 | September 17, 2009 10:38 AM | Report abuse

acorn is still a type of nut?

Posted by: pofinpa | September 17, 2009 10:38 AM | Report abuse

I think it's another link to drudge -- that would be my guess.

Much higher proportion of really low IQ droolers on here today.

What's striking is how belligerent the wingers posts are, how infantile, how similiar and repetitiive, and finally, how illiterate.

Like a 1000 loud mouths sharing the same tiny, primitive brain.

Posted by: drindl | September 17, 2009 10:37 AM | Report abuse

"Judge me by the People that I surround myself with"

Yes Obama, we are.

Posted by: ekim53 | September 17, 2009 10:23 AM
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Stormfront meeting already over, ekim? :)

Posted by: broadwayjoe | September 17, 2009 10:31 AM
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Those that are too ignorant to argue facts always scream racism. Both blacks and whites are tired of ignorance like yours.

Posted by: ekim53 | September 17, 2009 10:37 AM | Report abuse

So does this mean that ALL employees of ACORN are involved in a sex ring? Probably not. The emphasis should be on what ACORN has done for the community.

Posted by: muslit | September 17, 2009 10:33 AM | Report abuse

We see ACORN officials helping someone with illegal activity and cheating the government and cheating on taxes.

The Democrats are so loving of taxes saying even that it's Patriotic. Then we find the Democrats government has a hard time filling positions because many of their candidates are Tax Cheats. Even the Democrat head of the IRS is a Tax Cheat and the head of the very Powerful Ways and Means who really loves taxes, is a TAX CHEAT! Outrageous!
Does anybody want these hypocrites and thieves in charge of health care? Not no but HELL NO!

Posted by: ekim53 | September 17, 2009 10:32 AM | Report abuse

"Judge me by the People that I surround myself with"

Yes Obama, we are.

Posted by: ekim53 | September 17, 2009 10:23 AM
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Stormfront meeting already over, ekim? :)

Posted by: broadwayjoe | September 17, 2009 10:31 AM | Report abuse

Controversy?
Can you spell criminal activity, you lame brain?
McCain tried unsuccessfully to link Odumbo to ACORN?
What B.S. Odumbo was one of its earlier blackmailers.

You slobber and drool lapdogs need to just put your DNC logo on top of these piles of horse balls that you produce every day.
How disgusting you are.

Posted by: LarryG621 | September 17, 2009 10:29 AM | Report abuse

BHO lets white liberals and racist CBC do his dirty work.

Americans are finally taking one of Obama's tools away from him -- ACORN

Wish we'd ban racist CBC too.

Posted by: ram_xxx_ram | September 17, 2009 10:28 AM | Report abuse

This post highlights why some feel BHO made a big mistake in not calling out the bigots as Jimmy Carter courageously did this week.

Had BHO done so, he then could be dismissive of each new fake controversy as soon as it was teed up by this space, Drudge, Fox News, etc. To each, he could just say: I won't waste time on bigoted junk. By not pushing back, he has to waste time and capital substantively addressing each bogus issue, no matter how silly, see, e.g., talk-to-kiddies-gate.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | September 17, 2009 10:25 AM | Report abuse

ACORN can certainly be a disaster to some Democrats as Republicans at election time will when they can tie them to the organization. ACORN has already a history of being involved with Dems like Barney Frank to force banks to give loans to minorities who because of their financial means were undeserving..the first to default.. an major factor in the housing crisis. Of course voter fraud and now this. ACORN's name is in the mud and future investigations I'm sure will not help. Any Democrat who has supported ACORN in the past will have a lot of explaining to do... And this Org got millions taxpayer money... what a crime..

Posted by: sovine08 | September 17, 2009 10:25 AM | Report abuse

I am a Democrat and I never heard of ACORN until this whole mess started during the Obama campaign. Now all these Republicans (both friends and strangers) label me a Van Jones supporter or ACORN disciple. The fear that they are using is plan evil.

Posted by: joelp77440 | September 17, 2009 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Trinity
http://www.trinitychicago.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=114

Pledge Allegiance to All Black Leadership Who Espouse and Embrace the Black Value System.

Personal Commitment to Embracement of the Black Value System. To measure the worth and validity of all activity in terms of positive contributions to the general welfare of the Black Community and the Advancement of Black People towards freedom.

Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness."

Posted by: ram_xxx_ram | September 17, 2009 10:23 AM | Report abuse

"Judge me by the People that I surround myself with"

Yes Obama, we are.

Posted by: ekim53 | September 17, 2009 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Look, the hard-core dems don't care what people think. Look at Charlie Rangel. They are an arrogant bunch, and "pride goeth before destruction." ACORN is no different... "Birds of a feather, flock together."

Posted by: EvreeMan | September 17, 2009 10:21 AM | Report abuse


It amazes me that people will complain about the cost of the stimulus and claim at the same time that no jobs were saved.

I have seen a lot more road construction and repair in my area this year compared to previous years, and I know of lots of people (esp. teachers) scheduled to be laid off that were called back because of federal matching funds.

They told us last spring that it would take 18 months. It's been six, and things are starting to look better. Unfortunately, unemployment is a lagging indicator, and "jobs not lost" is impossible to accurately quantify.

Posted by: mikeinmidland | September 17, 2009 10:20 AM | Report abuse

File under Zero Self Awareness and Unintentional Hilarity?

"Some days I honestly think the current Republican party is little more than a long running Second City comedy sketch:

Protesters who attended Saturday’s Tea Party rally in Washington found a new reason to be upset: Apparently they are unhappy with the level of service provided by the subway system.

Rep. Kevin Brady called for a government investigation into whether the government-run subway system adequately prepared for this weekend’s rally to protest government spending and government services.

Seriously.

The Texas Republican on Wednesday released a letter he sent to Washington’s Metro system complaining that the taxpayer-funded subway system was unable to properly transport protesters to the rally to protest government spending and expansion."

I can't start thinking too much abouut this or I will spit my coffee.

Posted by: drindl | September 17, 2009 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Impressive list, MM! That about covers it.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | September 17, 2009 10:12 AM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe:

thanks for reminding me to donate to Rep. Wilson's campaign again.

Posted by: JakeD | September 17, 2009 10:12 AM | Report abuse

""community activist Obama will have to find another racist community organizing group to do his dirty work fixing the next census

Posted by: ram_xxx_ram |"

EXHIBIT A. CRO-MAGNON MAN.

Notice the small skull/brain size. thick neck, low forehead and dragging knuckles. Breathes through mouth and drools frequently. Cannot form coherent thought.

Nearly extinct.

Posted by: drindl | September 17, 2009 10:12 AM | Report abuse

Rather than pander to meet these idiotic Republican smears, the Democrats should say "MAKE MY DAY!" and continue to boldly pursue
our worthy goals. These naysayers are like fleas on a camel's back, not worth attention.

Posted by: arussell91 | September 17, 2009 10:10 AM | Report abuse

Yes! Jobs matter.

A jobless recovery is nasty, it is in fact, no recovery at all. It is a recovery for the banks and equity market investors that is all. But the prices of all those stocks and commodities are largely psychological.

Many thousands of people are losing their unemployment benefits each day now.

A double dip recession is coming unless a stimulus that has lots and lots of new jobs in it comes along in the nick of time.

The last one saved countless government jobs and contracts. It preserved the safety net. The next one has to put people who lost their jobs back to work.

Posted by: shrink2 | September 17, 2009 10:08 AM | Report abuse

Republican control and strategy is wholly dependent upon a press offense which is fully illusory.

It's no wonder they're losing.

How sad, and you know, you really can't provide a defense using this garbage.

They only ones they end up fooling are themselves.

Posted by: thegreatpotatospamof2003 | September 17, 2009 10:02 AM | Report abuse

community activist Obama will have to find another racist community organizing group to do his dirty work fixing the next census

Posted by: ram_xxx_ram | September 17, 2009 10:00 AM | Report abuse

Here's tomorrow's Fix:

"Are Carter's claim about racism equivalent to strapping bombs on children?"

'Yesterday, President Jimmy Carter caused controversy when he suggested that Rep. Joe Wilson’s (R-SC) recent outburst during President Obama’s health care address and other attacks against Obama may be motivated by racism. Today, Glenn Beck suggested on his Fox News show that Carter’s claims are equivalent to the terrorist tactic of strapping bombs to children and portrayed Carter as an ideological ally of Osama bin Laden:

BECK: Nobody is saying we’re blowing children up or anything like the Taliban. But this is the same kind of tactic being used now in America. You can’t get your agenda, so you unleash the hounds and point the fingers, and everybody is a racist.'

Posted by: drindl | September 17, 2009 9:45 AM
_____________
:)

How about:

Should BHO disavow Serena?

Should BHO disavow Kanye West?

How many times should BHO be allowed to violate the [non-existent] WH dress code?

BHO, Muslim socialist or Kenyan communist, which is it?

Aren't burning crosses are really just First Amendment religious expression?

Joe Wilson, patriot or statesman?

Posted by: broadwayjoe | September 17, 2009 9:57 AM | Report abuse

Well at least ACORN, pays it's pollsters in Parliaments, in attempt to reduce the unemployment rates- we can deal with the lung cancer later when Obama's health reforms are a distant memory....

WHAT ABOUT JOBS ????????? It's 9 months now and the job creation picture is DISMAL under this neophyte administration- Hey Mr. President- get the Axelrod removed and put people to work:

CPS News Releases
Employment Situation
September 04, 2009
Nonfarm payroll employment continued to decline in August (-216,000), and the unemployment rate rose to 9.7 percent.

From the 6/9/09 NYTimes-
"At a meeting with Mr. Obama and the cabinet, Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. outlined 10 major initiatives that he said would “build momentum and accelerate job growth” over the next 100 days. After Mr. Biden ticked off a list of programs — including water and waste projects in rural America and rehabilitation of 98 airports and 1,500 highways — the president took aim at his critics."

How about taking aim at Jobs?

Posted by: thecannula | September 17, 2009 9:55 AM | Report abuse

Chris - another red herring, that's all this is. Distraction. Ever heard the expression "making a mountain over a mole hill?"

The art of taking a bad players and spinning it into a blanket condemnation is the territory of the right wing radio and tv heads and Fox News. But you just couldn't resist, I think we know your intentions, Chris - a cameo for a Fox news gig? You seem to have the credentials...

Posted by: ScottChallenger | September 17, 2009 9:54 AM | Report abuse

At least Gov. Palin is proven right about "community organizers". It's interesting how many Dems dismiss the U.S. Senate strippingall funding from ACORN as "not newsworthy" but the U.S. House voting against two words ("You lie") is the front page lede.

Posted by: JakeD | September 17, 2009 9:50 AM | Report abuse

Come on peejay! Are you going to sit there with your fat, white, milkjfed face hanging out and try to convince us that there are no similar efforts on the right? Look. This has become an issue for one reason--because of the strutting, arrogant, Nazi like tacctics of Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh, both of who would look perfecly at home in Nazi SS uniforms and their motley, ragged collection of birthers, deathers, klansmen, Birchers, anarchists and other assorted doofuses out of the hills and hollows of the south where inbreeding an and religious fundamentalism have reduced their population to an ugly, subhuman species that resemble the Moorlocks in H. G. Wells' THE TIME MACHINE.

Posted by: jaxas | September 17, 2009 9:46 AM | Report abuse

Here's tomorrow's Fix:

"Are Carter's claim about racism equivalent to strapping bombs on children?"

'Yesterday, President Jimmy Carter caused controversy when he suggested that Rep. Joe Wilson’s (R-SC) recent outburst during President Obama’s health care address and other attacks against Obama may be motivated by racism. Today, Glenn Beck suggested on his Fox News show that Carter’s claims are equivalent to the terrorist tactic of strapping bombs to children and portrayed Carter as an ideological ally of Osama bin Laden:

BECK: Nobody is saying we’re blowing children up or anything like the Taliban. But this is the same kind of tactic being used now in America. You can’t get your agenda, so you unleash the hounds and point the fingers, and everybody is a racist.'

Posted by: drindl | September 17, 2009 9:45 AM | Report abuse

I'm going to start a list of "hot button issues for Republicans." This may take a while.

Acorn, Welfare Queens, Head Start, Schip, Jesse Jackson, “illegals,” Halloween, Gay people, Gay Marriage, Separation of church and state, know-it-all Secularists,
Obama’s birth certificate, all the passports he has ever had, his school admittance records and school loans, uppity people with fancy degrees, community organizers, professors telling us what to do,Nancy Pelosi, Senator Boxer, Michelle Obama, Hillary Clinton, Oprah Winfrey, the Dixie Chicks, Barbra Streisand, Serena Williams, Eleanor Roosevelt, Mollie Ivins, Sonya Sotomayor, Arianna Huffington, Dawn Johnsen, Maureen Dowd, Ellen Goodman, Taxes, creeping Socialism, Czars, TARP, health insurance reform, Sallie Mae, Fannie Mae, the SEC, Universal Health Care, trial lawyers, National Health, Barak Hussein Obama, Al Gore, John Kerry, John Edwards, Bernanki, Scapiro, Geithner, Reid, Biden, Van Jones, Cass Sunstein, Tom Daschle, David Hamilton, William Ayers, Att’y Gen’l Holder, Keith Olberman , Bill Clinton, Paul Krugman, Frank Rich, Juan Williams, Seymour Hirsch, Lenin and Marx,
Viet Nam, draft dodgers who aren’t Republicans, Ko-reea, those unreliable Pakis, Somali pirates, Hugo Chavez, the French, the Canadians, the Mexicans, people who say they are patriots but aren’t conservative enough to be patriotic.

The GOP and the Conservatives have become the twitchiest group around. The President can’t even give the kids a back-to-school pep talk without this group exploding with noisy, misspent grievance and emotion.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | September 17, 2009 9:43 AM | Report abuse

Oh, for god's sake, another republican toadie column.

Another day, another fake rightwing conspiracy.

I bet CC will get a big handful of doggie treats -- I mean cocktail weenies -- at the next big Republican DC shindig for this one.

Atta, boy!

Posted by: drindl | September 17, 2009 9:39 AM | Report abuse

Republicans wheezing about election fraud? Isn't that like Dick Cheney complaining about secrecy in government? Is there no boundary that can contain right wing hypocrisy?

Posted by: jaxas | September 17, 2009 9:36 AM | Report abuse

"Just because right-wingers have been trying to pretend that ACORN is a wing of the Democratic Party does not make it so."

Yeah right. How disingenuous can you be? Money and personnel flow rather freely between Democratic Party organizations, SEIU, and ACORN. ACORN's get out the vote efforts are essentially get out the Democratic vote efforts, and everyone knows this.

Posted by: Peejay | September 17, 2009 9:35 AM | Report abuse

ACORN 'SCANDAL' EXPOSES THE EASE WITH WHICH THE AMERICAN GESTAPO DUPES AND DISTRACTS MAINSTREAM MEDIA

How easily mainstream media gets duped by straw-man groups, thoroughly infiltrated by opposition elements, that are "exposed" as corrupt and hypocritical.

The extreme right in this country, perhaps aided and abetted by powerful forces within the bureaucracy, is expert at such media manipulation. In one major case, however, they don't need to manipulate; Fox News was constructed from the ground-up as a propaganda arm of this political "movement."

The ACORN "scandal" is a diversion tactic to keep the mainstream media from reporting on what's really eroding democracy and the rule of law in America -- programs such as THIS:

SILENT, HARMFUL MICROWAVE AND LASER DIRECTED ENERGY WEAPONS DEPLOYED AGAINST AMERICAN CITIZENS -- AMERICA's HORRIFIC SHAME

A federal-local multi-agency coordinated action program -- an ongoing legacy of the Bush-Cheney years -- is committing a quiet genocide on thousands of unjustly targeted Americans via such mind- and body-degrading weaponry; covert financial exploitation; and a grassroots vigilante army fronted by community policing, town watch and anti-terrorism units who use covertly placed warrantless GPS and cell phones to stalk their targets -- protected by federal and local law enforcement who know all about it...

...an American Gestapo hiding in plain sight, unreported by a complacent mainstream media, unaddressed by naive and apparently misinformed Obama officials.

http://nowpublic.com/world/gestapo-usa-govt-funded-vigilante-network-terrorizes-america

OR (if link is corrupted / disabled):

http://NowPublic.com/scrivener RE: "GESTAPO USA"

Posted by: scrivener50 | September 17, 2009 9:34 AM | Report abuse


Which party do you believe is most corrupt?

http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=6150

.

Posted by: usadblake | September 17, 2009 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Isn't this ACORN business just more of the same sort of corroption that afflicts both political parties in their efforts to secure funding for their campaigns. I mean come on! Glenn Beck has been on ACORN's hineys forever trying to link them to Obama.

Isn't that really what this is about? Both Glen Beck and Rush Limbaugh have this pathological problem with Obama. They hate him intensely. Why? For no other reason than that he won and in doing so pricked the delusional bubble they had been living in. In this bubble, every American agrees with them, idolizes them as some sort of hero, absolutely supports their ideological views and considers them great and honorable leaders.

Well, Obama's election flies in the face of this megalomniacal, pathological need on their part for such adulation. What really drives them nuts is that Obama actually does get the one thing they really yearn for but only get from a few, equally pathological dittoheads, rednecks, racists, birthers and deathers: Broad respect and adulation.

Posted by: jaxas | September 17, 2009 9:31 AM | Report abuse


Hint: Whenever Chris uses a question mark in his headline, he is raising a point he himself doesn't believe.

No, there will not be a McMahon in the Senate. He knows this, but gave her space anyway.

Ditto with this fake controversy.

Posted by: mikeinmidland | September 17, 2009 9:26 AM | Report abuse

Agreed on the missile shield, shrink2. You won't have to wait long, however, for the chicken hawks to squawk about capitulation--those whose understanding of diplomacy stretches from bluster to brinksmanship.

Posted by: mikeinmidland | September 17, 2009 9:23 AM | Report abuse

I've lost some respect for The Fix just by the publication of this piece. No one outside of Glenn Beck's mindless followers cares about some silly conservative sting and how it nabbed ACORN. This is a complete non--issue in the real world.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: parkerfl1 | September 17, 2009 9:00 AM
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Cosign. Fox News was complaining all yesterday about the MSM's refusal to cover this junk. Today, this space fronts for this fake controversy. ACORN, a nationwide group that by all reports has done a great job of registering the disenfranchised--which is why the bigots hate it--has already gotten rid of the bad apples involved in these isolated incidents. This is a big non-issue intentionally NOT covered by any respected journalist.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | September 17, 2009 9:19 AM | Report abuse

Another distraction from the state of the economy and the central issues in politics today. Jeb Bush, Tim Pawlenty, John Boehner?

These people are beneath contempt because they are irrelevant to solving any of the problems, solutions that will shape the vote totals in 10 and 12.

I am so glad, for example, to see the "missile shield" scrapped - the last vestige of Reagan's Star Wars confabulation.


Posted by: shrink2 | September 17, 2009 9:13 AM | Report abuse

There's an irony here to the ACORN story. The exposure of these tapes is clearly a "win" for the conservative alternative media. But that "win" also shows the limitations of the Fox News axis: they completely botched a central part of the story by failing to follow up on the San Bernardino story. It was quite obvious that the ACORN worker in San Bernardino was joking with the "journalists" when she claimed to have murdered her two ex-husbands. Any real journalist would have immediately contacted the San Bernardino police department to see if, in fact, her story was true. Instead, they reported their "findings" breathlessly to Fox News without even a hint of vetting. And so both Fox News and ACORN end up with egg on their faces instead of a genuine journalistic coup. More importantly, the shoddy reporting on the San Bernardino case throws into question all of the tapes and makes the ACORN charge of selective editing look more plausible.

So, yes, if the mainstream media had looked into this story it would have gotten wider play. But a whole lot of the sensationalism would have been eliminated and the result might have been less shocking in the end.

Posted by: ElrodinTennessee | September 17, 2009 9:04 AM | Report abuse

I've lost some respect for The Fix just by the publication of this piece. No one outside of Glenn Beck's mindless followers cares about some silly conservative sting and how it nabbed ACORN. This is a complete non--issue in the real world.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: parkerfl1 | September 17, 2009 9:00 AM | Report abuse

Well, you certainly manage to avoid the high points. A couple of incidents with a Wingo documentarian are followed by firings, denunciations and fund curtailments.
This fluff may be Fix fodder but it is swamped by Democrats efforts on health reform, foreign policy and economic recovery.
Jeb Bush emailing on election fraud? Give us all a break.

Posted by: MikeKelly45 | September 17, 2009 8:58 AM | Report abuse

ACORN gets federal money. Check. They do voter registration. Check. Four ACORN employees in Baltimore and DC were fired for encouraging fraud. Check.

How is this a Democrats-only problem? The vote you mentioned does not show a party-line understanding of the situation. No politician, right or left, is going to defend criminal behavior.

Just because right-wingers have been trying to pretend that ACORN is a wing of the Democratic Party does not make it so.

Posted by: mikeinmidland | September 17, 2009 8:56 AM | Report abuse

Jeb Bush has no room to talk about fraud. He got tax laws changed in FL while he was Governor that allowed businesses to pay corporate income taxes into the private school voucher fund instead of the general revenue fund. That was a major contributing factor to FL winding up in a financial mess even before the economy tanked nationwide. Jeb is nothing but a blowhard, know-it-all. At least his brother ruined the family name in politics, which greatly blunts his chances of running for Prez.

Posted by: pk_1 | September 17, 2009 8:44 AM | Report abuse

Nice attempt to deflect the issue, rlj1.

Posted by: Peejay | September 17, 2009 8:25 AM | Report abuse

bobmoses,

My thoughts exactly. The thing is that the corruption in ACORN is far deeper than any petty criminality that's being turned up at the lowest levels. The only thing we're seeing come to the surface is what can be turned up by a couple of 20 year olds with a video camera. Imagine what would happen if real journalists cared. Google Anita Moncrief.

rlj1,

Blackwater isn't a political organization doing campaign work for the political party in power and clearly involved in fraud, at least voter registration fraud. ACORN's corruption places at issue the integrity of the political process.

Posted by: Peejay | September 17, 2009 8:24 AM | Report abuse

I never understand why folks defend bad behavior by pointing out their opposition’s bad behavior. That's not a defense. Cheney's no bid contracts were despicable, and so is Acorn's taxpayer funded voter fraud.

Posted by: TheNewFloridian | September 17, 2009 8:23 AM | Report abuse

Why are you fronting this bogus GOP/Fox News talking point on ACORN featuring Bush and Pawlenty comments?

Fox News's entertainers spent hours yesterday talking about their frustration at not being able to get the MSM to pick up on this distracting irrelevant sewage about ACORN. And today, you help them out.

That there are a couple of bad eggs in a grass roots voter registration group is not surprising and hardly news.

The current issue of the Columbia Journalism Review called out this blog as a Drudge "imitator" and "emulator." Hate to think that CJR got it right.

http://www.examiner.com/x-23185-Seminole-County-Democrat-Examiner~y2009m9d10-Drudge-Report-loses-traffic-unlike-the-Huffington-Post

Posted by: broadwayjoe | September 17, 2009 8:23 AM | Report abuse

The ACORN thing will have no staying power at all. The connection to democrats is tenous at best and the GOP know it. They are just making hay since they can.

And "Former Pennsylvania senator Rick Santorum (R), who has acknowledged an interest in running for president in 2012"

Are you F&^%ing Kidding me! Santorum really thinks that he can run for president? What are him and Sarah Palin on? I say the same thing when Al Sharpton runs, but then again I know that Sharpton is just doing it so he can funnel money from his campaign to his pocket. Maybe that is what Santorum is going to do too.

Posted by: AndyR3 | September 17, 2009 8:15 AM | Report abuse

Usually when there is smoke there is fire. however, with the advent of fux news and yak radio it is really just some very well financed people with a big smoke machine. The reason this has not been a news story is because it is not a news story. BFD. An organization with lots of employees, working with deperately poor people, ended up with some of it's employees aparently doing stupid and possibly illegal things.

I an far more outraged when Walmart decides it is cheaper to pay court settlements and fines than to follow the most basic labor laws. I am more outraged when bush administration officials WORKING IN THE GOVERNMENT took bribes to give away our natural resources to oil companies. THAT is a story. I am more outraged when dick cheney steers no bid contracts to a company that was paying him millions and that company cheats on its contracts in ways that killed American service personell. THAT is a story. Some 20,000 a year clerk at an advocacy group doing something stupid? What kind of a story is that? Who fing cares?

Posted by: John1263 | September 17, 2009 8:02 AM | Report abuse

acorn is a nonstory that has been propelled into the news by constant and relentless repetition otfux news. If legitimate news organizations get some guts and refuse to run nonsense stories then the damage of fux is limited. Only the initiated kool aid drunk audience who watches that carp will foam at the mouth over this nothing. However, when WashPo, NYT, etc start to echo the noise machine it becomes a danger to our entire political system. Treat propaganda as propaganda. the story ois not about acorn, it is about how having a megaphone like fux and talk radio can be used to turn something as irrelevant and insignificant as this into headline news. Report it from that angle, because that is what this really is.

Posted by: John1263 | September 17, 2009 7:56 AM | Report abuse

How much trouble for Democrats, is a misdirection, and you know it.

How much trouble for the mainstream media, which sneered at the story while Americans were appalled at that selective choice, is the question.

There's a REASON MSNBC's numbers are in the tank, Chris. There's a REASON why the new Pew Poll concerning trust in the media shows a majority of Americans no longer trusting the media to give them straight facts, no matter who it affects. There's a REASON why Americans are pulling away from TV pundits who play the race card to avoid rational discussions of the issues.

Will there be a huge backlash against media that refused to report this Acorn story, or literally SNEERED at those who did, as "less than?"

Yes, there will.

Brush up your resume

Posted by: auntmo9990 | September 17, 2009 7:46 AM | Report abuse

From little ACORNS huge problems grow. Watergate came from a little problem -- when Alexander Butterfield, a midlevel administrator at the FAA, disclosed the existence of the White House tape recordings during an unrelated and obscure hearing before Congress. The roots of ACORN run deep and touch many. This issue won't go away. Bringing daylight to this organization will expose many along the way.

Posted by: johne37179 | September 17, 2009 7:41 AM | Report abuse

Pawlenty is just another Bush. Shooting from the hip and not checking facts. ACORN does not receive funding from Minnesota. There is a related post at http://iamsoannoyed.com/?page_id=588

Posted by: carlyt | September 17, 2009 7:37 AM | Report abuse

Anyone else tired of the they did it too response to bad conduct? I hope that at some point people of all political persuasions will take off their partisan blinders and deal with these obviously bad actors.

Posted by: rb1955 | September 17, 2009 7:35 AM | Report abuse

No, how much danger for the WP and other MSM which refuse to cover or investigate this story? Do they really think they can survive by continuing to be blantant front organizations shilling for the White House and DNC rather than being journalists?

Has the WP no shame at all?

Posted by: silencedogoodreturns | September 17, 2009 7:33 AM | Report abuse

No, how much danger for the WP and other MSM which refuse to cover or investigate this story? Do they really think they can survive by continuing to be blantant front organizations shilling for the White House and DNC rather than being journalists?

Has the WP no shame at all?

Posted by: silencedogoodreturns | September 17, 2009 7:33 AM | Report abuse

Shouldn't a list of who in the Senate voted on the side of Acorn be the most responsible thing to do ?

Maybe ask them "why ?"

Why aren't their names as prominent in the news as Joe Wilson and Kanye West ? How about getting to the heart of the story - or is the Washington Post just fluff nowadays ?

Posted by: MaxManning | September 17, 2009 7:31 AM | Report abuse

c'mon Chris, is this the best you can come up with to throw at Dems? ACORN might, maybe, should, would, could, possibly, probably be a detriment to Dems??? rlj and mark in austin had more info and a broader perspective than the blog. And will you be back-pedalling this next week like you did with the NJ and Va gov races?

Posted by: katem1 | September 17, 2009 7:27 AM | Report abuse

rlj1 makes an interesting analogy. The excesses and possible crimes of Blackwater employees were newsworthy but seemed to register outrage only among pundits and pols on the left. It is likely that the excesses and possible crimes of ACORN employees will register outrage only among pundits and pols on the right.

"How much danger for Democrats?" None, provided they step away; and minimal, if they do not. Same for Rs. A funny tale follows.

From a 2005 story in the Houston Chronicle titled, "Advocate for affordable housing earns kudos in lending law reform" we learn that the group's proudest moment came courtesy of Rick Perry's signature.

"By recruiting and mobilizing hundreds of poor and working-class Houstonians such as Olvera in the past two years, the Houston chapter of the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or ACORN, has raised its profile and earned the respect of local officials.

Its aggressive advocacy for affordable housing, tenant protections and other causes is making a difference.

The group's proudest moment came last week when Gov. Rick Perry signed a bill that makes important changes in the use of contracts-for-deed, a form of home lending that withholds a title from buyers until they have fully paid their loan.

Passage of the law, which will make it possible for buyers to convert their loans to traditional mortgages, was this year's top Texas legislative goal for ACORN, which represents 175,000 low- and moderate-income families in 51 U.S. cities."
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Rick Perry has been stirring the pot this week by criticizing Senator Hutchison for not voting against ACORN in Congress. From Wayne Slater at the Dallas Morning News:

"The Senate voted Monday to cut off funding for ACORN, the anti-poverty group that has become a target of the conservative talk radio and Fox TV. The vote was overwhelming, but Kay Bailey Hutchison didn't vote. And Rick Perry's campaign wants to know why."
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A photo of Perry and the ACORN leaders from Houston at the 2005 signing ceremony is readily available to the KBH campaign. Irony?

Posted by: mark_in_austin | September 17, 2009 6:58 AM | Report abuse

"How Much Danger For Democrats?"

Well none of course. The liberal media has made a determined decision to ignore this story.

Posted by: bobmoses | September 17, 2009 6:57 AM | Report abuse

ACORN received federal funding and they had a couple of employees who did stupid things. Blackwater received federal funding and they had/have employees who did stupid things; killed people and did not use their funding for soilders (food; equipment; etc.).

I don't remember all this outrage about Blackwater and they're still receiving federal funding.

http://www.courthousenews.com/2009/09/15/Four_Say_Mercenaries_Killed_Iraqis_as_Sport_.htm

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2009/aug2009/blac-a24.shtml

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=104849§ionid=3510203

Posted by: rlj1 | September 17, 2009 6:40 AM | Report abuse

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