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Morning Fix: Paging Doctors (and Nurses)



President Barack Obama has surrounded himself with doctors and nurses all week. Photo by Jim Young of Reuters

President Obama is relying heavily on the credibility conveyed by doctors and nurses as he makes the final push for passage of his health care plan.

On Monday, Obama appeared at the White House with more than 150 doctors -- all wearing their white lab coats -- to (re)tout the American Medical Association's support for his plan.

Then, on Tuesday morning, Organizing for America (OFA), the campaign arm of the Democratic National Committee launched a television ad on national cable stations featuring a doctor and a nurse making the case for reform. "I see it everyday on the job, our health care system is broken," says the nurse. "We need to provide stability and security for those who have insurance, and cover those that don't," says the doctor.

And, late Tuesday, OFA sent an e-mail to its list urging nurses to rally around the Obama plan in the coming days -- "In these crucial weeks, public displays of support from nurses like you can make a huge difference in your community and to the national debate," writes OFA head Mitch Stewart -- and offered free pins proclaiming "Another nurse for health reform."

By putting doctors and nurses so far forward in the final days (weeks?) of the health care fight, Obama is seeking to capitalize on the tremendously positive public perception of those two professions to help vouch for the legislation's necessity and quality.

Years of data prove that nurses and doctors are -- far and away -- two of the most admired lines of work in the country. In a late 2008 Gallup survey, 84 percent of respondents said that nurses had either "very high" (24 percent) or "high" honesty and ethical standards while 64 percent said the same of doctors. (Journalists, in case you were wondering, were near the bottom of the charts with just 25 percent of people saying we are honest and ethical. Seems about right.)

Remember that Obama's biggest challenge on health care is not rallying people who lack coverage behind it but rather convincing people who are a) already covered and b) happy with their coverage that change is both necessary and good.

Since Obama has had mixed -- at best -- success selling that message, he and his advisers are trying a different set of messengers to see if they fare any better.

Wednesday's Fix Picks:

1. Dan Balz on the political dangers of Afghanistan.
2. DeLay is out of "DWTS."
3. Mitt Romney heads to Florida.
4. Onorato's In.
5. Skins hire "offensive consultant". Jim Zorn forecast: cloudy.

Palin on Afghanistan: Taking to her preferred medium -- Facebook -- former Alaska governor Sarah Palin is advocating for an increased troop presence in Afghanistan even as President Obama mulls the proper next steps in the country. "We can win in Afghanistan by helping the Afghans build a stable representative state able to defend itself," wrote Palin. "And we must do what it takes to prevail." She went on to add that "now is not the time for cold feet, second thoughts, or indecision." Palin has largely avoided the public eye since she resigned from office over the summer -- choosing to use Facebook to offer her thoughts on the issues of the day. She still remains a potent force -- for good or ill depends on your partisan leanings -- in politics, however, as evidenced by the fact that it sits at number one on Amazon.com's books list despite the fact that it won't be released until Nov. 17.

Foley On TV in CT: Former ambassador Tom Foley (Conn.) will begin running ads today that seek to paint him as the reformer in the Republican Senate field. "It's a vicious cycle," says Foley in the commercial. "The special interests contribute to the politicians and the politicians spend our money on behalf of the special interests." Foley describes Sen. Chris Dodd (D) as "one of the worst offenders" and reminds voters -- perhaps for the first time -- that he is accepting no special interest money in the campaign. The ads will run in the Hartford and New Haven media markets but not the prohibitively expensive New York City media market. Foley raised $780,000 in the last three months -- fueled by a $500,000 personal donation -- and ended September with $1.17 million in the bank. He faces a crowded primary field that includes former representative Rob Simmons, who holds wide leads in all public polling, state Sen. Sam Caliguri and World Wrestling Entertainment CEO Linda McMahon who is already up on television statewide with ads introducing herself to voters.

Ferre Running in Florida Senate: Former six-term Miami Mayor Maurice Ferre is set to announce his candidacy for the Democratic Senate nomination in the Sunshine State today, joining Rep. Kendrick Meek in the field. "I believe it is time to be bold," Ferre is expected to say, according to a copy of his remarks obtained by the Fix. "Florida is in trouble and we are not getting our fair share from Washington." Ferre, who was born in Puerto Rico, is likely to enjoy considerable support from the Hispanic community in the state, according to his advisers. Still, he has much ground -- organizationally and financially -- to make up on Meek. Meek, who represents the Miami-area 17th district, ended June with $2.3 million in the bank and has been the beneficiary of several fundraisers hosted by former President Bill Clinton. And, at 74 years old, it remains to be seen whether Ferre will be up to the rigors of a statewide campaign in a state as large as Florida. Republicans have a primary fight of their own between Gov. Charlie Crist and former state House Speaker Marco Rubio.

Click It!: John Ensign -- on the run. Parental warning: This is awkward.

Corzine Comes Back: New Jersey Gov. Jon Corzine (D) has pulled into a dead heat with former U.S. attorney Chris Christie (R), according to a new poll conducted by Fairleigh Dickinson University. Corzine took 44 percent of the vote to 43 percent for Christie and five percent for independent candidate Chris Daggett. The FDU survey is the latest in a series of polls that have shown the gap between Christie and Corzine narrowing and Republican strategists acknowledge privately that the trend line is not moving in their direction at the moment. Still, the FDU poll suggests voters remain deeply dissatisfied with Corzine -- 37 percent view him favorably while 54 percent see him in an unfavorable light -- and less than one in four believe the state is headed in the right direction.

Say What?: "Frankly, a lot of what's going on in Washington has made it very tough." -- Virginia state Sen. Creigh Deeds (D), projecting.

By Chris Cillizza  |  October 7, 2009; 5:17 AM ET
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Your acquaintance hasn't made the world a better place either, long as we're on the subject.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | October 8, 2009 1:46 AM | Report abuse

She only says the same six things over and over too? Are you sure those aren't the voices in your head?

Posted by: JakeD | October 8, 2009 1:43 AM | Report abuse

Honestly I wish McCain had never tapped Palin for VP. In addition to wishing our politics had been spared her small-town small-minded "real Americans" rhetoric, I frankly wish she had never suffered so from exposure, that she was still the governor of Alaska, still popular in her state, still secretly nurturing national ambitions but only in the same sense that everyone does.

She would never have had the opportunity to divide us, but then she would never have had people making fun of her accent or her family because she really wasn't ready to handle that.

She'd still be a nasty anti-environmental anti-abortion anti-a whole lotta stuff person, but she and we would all be a lot happier.

McCain has a lot to answer for.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | October 8, 2009 1:35 AM | Report abuse

It's more than six.

Posted by: JakeD | October 8, 2009 1:25 AM | Report abuse

Says the guy who does the same six posts all day long, week in week out.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | October 8, 2009 1:17 AM | Report abuse

"Death Panels" sounded pretty original to me.

Posted by: JakeD | October 8, 2009 12:53 AM | Report abuse

The title of "Going Rogue" is just another iteration of that "maverick" stuff from the campaign.

The irony is for Palin to present herself as an independent (*chuckle*) /thinker/ which is especially ironic given her slavish adherence to every smallest iota of movement conservatism. As though she has ever had a single original political thought in her life.

Or any other kind.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | October 8, 2009 12:34 AM | Report abuse

shrink2:

better answer an' toot sweet 'cause otherwise he might not answer YOUR questions and god know we mustn't have THAT

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | October 7, 2009 9:06 PM | Report abuse

shrink2:

do you know why Jake keeps pretending to ask you questions?

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | October 7, 2009 8:53 PM | Report abuse

shrink2:

Do you think that Bill Clinton is a "real politician" or not?

Posted by: JakeD | October 7, 2009 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Uh Palin isn't a "real politician."

Matter of fact she doesn't even have a job.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | October 7, 2009 8:41 PM | Report abuse

shrink2:

If you need me to explain the difference between real politicians and fictional characters -- or even Bruce Willis's role in Die Hard -- let me know.

Posted by: JakeD | October 7, 2009 8:37 PM | Report abuse

Think of Bruce Willis as the ROGUE cop in the Die Hard movies

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Think of Palin as the idiot who can't speak a coherent sentence and who quit her elected job halfway through the term and tried to play it as a good thing.

Yeah, all mavericky an' stuff.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | October 7, 2009 8:30 PM | Report abuse

What would you think about a Palin-Bloomberg ticket?

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What would you think of a Mickey Mouse / Bullwinkle ticket?

It's at least as likely as yours. Bloomberg wouldn't give Palin the dog crap off the bottom of his shoe.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | October 7, 2009 8:27 PM | Report abuse

I just don't get the TV talk show thing.

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I just don't get the TV thing, period.

I can't imagine spending hours of every day of one's life sitting like a potted plant before a screen that's not even interactive, being "entertained." Even if the entertainment wasn't suitable for small children.

Last time I had the patience to shut off like that Reagan was still in his first term.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | October 7, 2009 8:25 PM | Report abuse

shrink2:

What would you think about a Palin-Bloomberg ticket?

Posted by: JakeD | October 7, 2009 8:21 PM | Report abuse

http://www.poligazette.com/2009/10/07/time-publishes-palin-hitpiece/

Further, as I already documented in a prior thread, Ted Sorenson wrote JFK's "Profiles in Courage" and Bill Ayers wrote BHO's "Dreams From My Father" -- at least Sarah Palin is not lying about her co-author -- I wonder if TIME Magazine is going to look into that too? If anyone else wants to discuss that tangent further:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/eye-on-2012/the-palin-wars-part-lxii.html

As for the definition of "rogue", I don't think that's a problem at all. "Going Rogue" is not an admission by Gov. Palin of being dishonest or even an Arctic Devil. Of course, those who don't like her use the words “Going Rogue” in that negative sense. But, there’s a up side to "Going Rogue" too, even if it means getting ones hands dirty to get the job done. Think of Bruce Willis as the ROGUE cop in the Die Hard movies (for those of you in Rio Linda or anywhere else with no dish and no cable, he's not the one "dying" either ; )

I am more than happy to debate anyone who answers my simple questions — just keep in mind that there is a positive meaning to “Going Rogue” where she's "no longer obedient" to political correctness, or "accepted" by the political establishment -- and hence not controllable or answerable to said establishment. That's what I think "Going Rogue" really means, and I would be surprised if she doesn't pick up on those themes in the book, in spite of what her critics meant for evil.

It can mean "to uproot or destroy" as well, i.e. "to rogue a field".

Posted by: JakeD | October 7, 2009 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: JakeD | October 7, 2009 7:25 PM | Report abuse

OK, thanks : )

Posted by: JakeD | October 7, 2009 7:13 PM | Report abuse

This is all.
Only vague awareness of him.
When I read his lists etc., I have never thought he was funny. Don't care about his shtick nor his personal life.
I just don't get the TV talk show thing.
The monologue, the guests, the band...meh.
Probably one of the last people in America with no dish and no cable. I was raised that way (no TV). But I was an early adopter of the Internets!

Posted by: shrink2 | October 7, 2009 7:07 PM | Report abuse

shrink2:

Let me know if you have any opinions (professional or otherwise) on the Letterman issue, thanks.

Posted by: JakeD | October 7, 2009 6:46 PM | Report abuse

Jake is spanking his monkey over Palin in every single thread today.

Whatsa matta baby afraid someone won't read it? What a disgusting attention wh0re.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | October 7, 2009 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Meghan Stapleton, Palin spokesperson, also noted at the time:

"The Palins have no intention of providing a ratings boost for David Letterman by appearing on his show. Plus, it would be wise to keep Willow away from David Letterman."

Dave probably wanted to get Willow into his secret bedroom located above the Ed Sullivan (who would be turning over in his grave) Theatre.

Posted by: JakeD | October 7, 2009 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Seems like Gov. Palin was onto something when she noted: "Laughter incited by sexually-perverted comments made by a 62-year-old male celebrity aimed at a 14-year-old girl is not only disgusting, but it reminds us some Hollywood/NY entertainers have a long way to go in understanding what the rest of America understands - that acceptance of inappropriate sexual comments about an underage girl, who could be anyone's daughter, contributes to the atrociously high rate of sexual exploitation of minors by older men who use and abuse others."

What do you think of this, shrink2:

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/addiction-in-society/200910/so-david-letterman-thinks-sarah-palin-is-white-trash

Posted by: JakeD | October 7, 2009 5:53 PM | Report abuse

In other news, N.O.W. came out against David Letterman for the "toxic" work environment and urged CBS "to take action immediately to rectify this situation. With just two women on CBS' board of directors, we're not holding our breath."

http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/TV/10/07/letterman.now/index.html

Posted by: JakeD | October 7, 2009 5:39 PM | Report abuse

I finally quit in protest over Bill Clinton getting invited to give the keynote address AFTER he had been impeached

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yeah sure you did. Why do you even bother posting this crap? If you think anyone believes a single word you write then you're even more demented than your faith in Palin would indicate.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | October 7, 2009 5:28 PM | Report abuse

The AMA is a PR Department.

Posted by: shrink2 | October 7, 2009 5:09 PM | Report abuse

The AMA is at least a bit more subtle about it (or has a better PR department ; )

I finally quit in protest over Bill Clinton getting invited to give the keynote address AFTER he had been impeached!!!

Posted by: JakeD | October 7, 2009 4:39 PM | Report abuse

"I was a dues paying member of the ABA for 40 years..."

Ouch, TMI. No seriously, the ability of special interests to set heroic poses in this country is nauseating. Its like those environmental ads from Dow and the alternative energy ads from Exxon.

Look at these clowns in white lab coats. They should have hung stethoscopes on their necks and had each other paged the whole time. President face time matters but you gotta save lives you know.

The AMA is only about money, it is about getting paid.

Posted by: shrink2 | October 7, 2009 4:34 PM | Report abuse

You haven't even been *alive* for 40 years.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | October 7, 2009 4:28 PM | Report abuse

shrink2:

I was a dues paying member of the ABA for 40 years, believe me, I understand ; )

Posted by: JakeD | October 7, 2009 4:20 PM | Report abuse

G&T: Pavlov would be proud of you. Look how the anklebiter is still posting to me, trying to get me to respond to his inanities. It's really sort of sad.

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... and dangling to horrifying threat of NOT ANSWERING YOUR QUESTIONS in the future.

I bet it's keeping you awake nights. Brrr.

Whether he really is as immature as he sounds or faking it for attention really doesn't ultimately matter, does it.

I don't think we'll ever get the 100% ignore it would take for him to move on to new digs, the important thing is to not have the endless back and forth that gives idiot-boi his satisfaction.

I'd think our only hope would be to get him banned for some of the hope-he-dies or hope-he's-assassinated stuff he posts, but clearly given the sick twisted sh|t he's posted in the past weeks and still no ban that isn't going to happen. Maybe he's promised CC some lurid favors or something, or maybe CC is eating up that "gracious host" brown-nosing, but for now this blog is filthed up by a guy who writes like he's a sixth the age he claims.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | October 7, 2009 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Really, you understand that?
I can't get anyone to realize how stupid the phrase health care reform and American Medical Association look together. The AMA wants the system they built on steroids. That is all they want.

Posted by: shrink2 | October 7, 2009 4:11 PM | Report abuse

G&T: Pavlov would be proud of you. Look how the anklebiter is still posting to me, trying to get me to respond to his inanities. It's really sort of sad.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | October 7, 2009 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Sadist.
That's like the time I went to a certain zoo in SE Asia and the keeper would poke the animals so the humans could see how badly they behaved.

Posted by: shrink2 | October 7, 2009 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Well, shrink2, at least we agreed that Obama doing a "health reform" photo op with the AMA was absurd : )

Posted by: JakeD | October 7, 2009 4:05 PM | Report abuse

G&T don't feed the troll! I'm resisting, you can too. Starve the beast!

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Day before yesterday I did a 30-second post suggesting that Trig wasn't Palin's child. Managed to get Jake frantically posting links and his usual crap for HOURS. And with hardly anyone else posting and certainly nobody reading it, much less following the links.

It felt like really good payback.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | October 7, 2009 4:03 PM | Report abuse

What, don't you think explicating her plans to show up Alexander the Great, the Mongols, Queen Victoria and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics by empire/nation building in Afghanistan, on Facebook no less, is a sign of visionary leadership?

Visions for sure.

Someone ought to tell Ms Palin that the Afghans have had many centuries of stability with a representative (though highly local, fractious and clannish, just like old Scotland) system of governance. They have never had a problem defending themselves, except temporarily, when debased by empire builders and self appointed saviors.

Foreign policy on Facebook, sheeesh, she and Devine, the one down here following God on Twitter need to get together.

Posted by: shrink2 | October 7, 2009 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Calling me a "troll" and telling other people not to "feed" me is hardly IGNORING someone. Seriously, koolkat_1960, put a dictionary on your Amazon.com wishlist and I will buy it for you.

Posted by: JakeD | October 7, 2009 3:57 PM | Report abuse

G&T don't feed the troll! I'm resisting, you can too. Starve the beast!

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | October 7, 2009 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Yeah no doubt there were some Democrats in southern states who couldn't bring themselves to vote for a minority, and doubtless there were a few who remembered the John McCain of pre-2001 who was a stand-up guy and still had some of his marbles.

But we aren't talking about voting for an unknown minority in 2012, nor about voting for McCain-with-marbles. We're talking about voting for a stupid snake-handling fundamentalist woman with no executive skills and a preoccupation with self-promotion. She won't get 25 million votes nationwide.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | October 7, 2009 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else?

Posted by: JakeD | October 7, 2009 3:41 PM | Report abuse

If anyone else who actually answers my questions ... please let me know.

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How anyone as immature as this manages to feed himself will remain a mystery to the end of my days

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | October 7, 2009 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Full exit poll results showing 10% of Democrats voted for McCain-Palin:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,447844,00.html

Posted by: JakeD | October 7, 2009 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: JakeD | October 7, 2009 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: JakeD | October 7, 2009 3:33 PM | Report abuse

If anyone else who actually answers my questions wants to discuss the 10% (and certain to be more next time) of Democrats who voted for McCain-Palin, please let me know.

Posted by: JakeD | October 7, 2009 3:28 PM | Report abuse

See any "Palin Democrats," Jake?

Idiot.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | October 7, 2009 3:19 PM | Report abuse

koolkat_1960 (since you aren't "ignoring" me anymore, darn it):

1) Have you ever heard of Reagan Democrats?

2) Are you disputing the fact that Alaska is 663,268 square miles in area?

3) Do you live in Rhode Island and suffer from Palin envy?

Posted by: JakeD | October 7, 2009 3:11 PM | Report abuse

jonweiss1 - I have a Medicare Advantage policy instead of medigap insurance. M/A policies are hybrids in which private providers are funded in part by Medicare to provide complete service packages to me or other people my age. You could learn about it at the Medicare website. As I understand it, the bills with the Prez's strong urging do away with M/A.

I am hoping Scott&White Clinic, where I have my M/A plan, will replace it with an M/A plan at an affordable increase in tuition - I really like my coverage and the Clinic's approach to delivery of services.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | October 7, 2009 3:10 PM | Report abuse

koolkat_1960:

I thought you said you were "done with [me]"? Oh, yeah, you don't answer simple questions either.

Posted by: JakeD | October 7, 2009 2:54 PM | Report abuse

"I'll thank you not to insult the intelligence of parrots by comparing them to that drooling nincompoop JakeD who thinks that a state with fewer people than Seattle is "the largest in the union."

What a damned idiot."

One who just posted the book description written by her publisher as support for his idiotic argument.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | October 7, 2009 2:48 PM | Report abuse

As I already documented in a prior thread, Ted Sorenson actually wrote JFK's "Profiles in Courage" and Bill Ayers wrote BHO's "Dreams From My Father" -- at least Sarah Palin is not lying about her co-author -- if anyone else wants to discuss that tangent further:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/eye-on-2012/the-palin-wars-part-lxii.html

Posted by: JakeD | October 7, 2009 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Obama said that he would end "unwarranted subsidies in Medicare that go to insurance companies -- subsidies that do everything to pad their profits but don't improve the care of seniors."

Yet, as a veteran I have health care coverage from TRICARE, VA, MEDICARE, and coverage though my company, contracted from AETNA. When I get medical treatment, the routine is that all of the above get billed, then I get notices from TRICARE, VA, and MEDICARE, that they are secondary payers only, after AETNA pays their portion (the bulk of the bills), then I get notices informing me that TRICARE, VA, MEDICARE, are paying the co-pays. Then I get the notices from AETNA informing me that TRICARE, VA, MEDICARE, have billed them for the cost of the co-pays. So just where in this sequence do these government agencies pay AETNA??? NOWHERE. Obama is again lying through his teeth.

Posted by: jonweiss1 | October 7, 2009 2:46 PM | Report abuse

the NAMBLA meeting over already? sewage time at the Fix.

Posted by: snowbama | October 7, 2009 2:33 PM | Report abuse

People born on or before 1954 are being told they don't need the H1N1 vaccine (unless they are in a position to infect others in high risk categories, e.g. health care workers should get it regardless of age), this because older people seem to have residual immunity from their childhood flu experiences. I guess the strain going around in the early '50s was similar to this one.

But I'd do whatever God says on Twitter.
Like Ms Devine, I don't agree with Stalin's first lieutenant (at Yalta, Stalin told Roosevelt that Beria was "our Himmler") on health policy issues.

Posted by: shrink2 | October 7, 2009 2:23 PM | Report abuse

"...She was a Main Street American woman: a working mom, wife of a blue-collar union man ..."

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Then she's qualified to drive a forklift or do inventory work at a department store. Nothing more.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | October 7, 2009 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Yes he is an idiot all right. these parrots' vocabulary is mighty slim

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I'll thank you not to insult the intelligence of parrots by comparing them to that drooling nincompoop JakeD who thinks that a state with fewer people than Seattle is "the largest in the union."

What a damned idiot.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | October 7, 2009 2:20 PM | Report abuse

I AM laughing. But your world will be crushed when that silly woman doesn't go anywhere. But I relish it, because she will be the nail in the coffin for conservatives.

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Guy I see on weekends has a Palinite roommate (and he's gay, now THERE'S a constantly conflicted fool). He's still hyperventilating over her resignation but even he isn't idiot enough to think she still has a shot at politics.

I think it's pretty cool that movement conservatives have fastened on an executive incompetent as their standard bearer. Let them sink to the bottom right along with her.

Ugh, what a stupid horrible woman, McCain should go back to Hanoi for inflicting her on us.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | October 7, 2009 2:12 PM | Report abuse

From Amazon.com "Product Description":

As chief executive of America’s largest state, she had built a record as a reformer who cast aside politics-as-usual and pushed through changes other politicians only talked about: Energy independence. Ethics reform. And the biggest private sector infrastructure project in U.S. history. And while revitalizing public school funding and ensuring the state met its responsibilities to seniors and Alaska Native populations, Palin also beat the political "good ol' boys club" at their own game and brought Big Oil to heel.

Like her GOP running mate, John McCain, Palin wasn’t a packaged and over-produced candidate. She was a Main Street American woman: a working mom, wife of a blue-collar union man, and mother of five children, the eldest of whom is serving his country in Iraq and the youngest, an infant with special needs. Palin’s hometown story touched a populist nerve, rallying hundreds of thousands of ordinary Americans to the GOP ticket.

But as the campaign unfolded, Palin became a lightning rod for both praise and criticism. Supporters called her "refreshing" and "honest," a kitchen-table public servant they felt would fight for their interests. Opponents derided her as a wide-eyed Pollyanna unprepared for national leadership. But none of them knew the real Sarah Palin.

In this eagerly anticipated memoir, Palin paints an intimate portrait of growing up in the wilds of Alaska; meeting her lifelong love; her decision to enter politics; the importance of faith and family; and the unique joys and trials of life as a high-profile working mother. She also opens up for the first time about the 2008 Presidential race, providing a rare, mom’s-eye view of high-stakes national politics—from patriots dedicated to "Country First" to slick politicos bent on winning at any cost.

Going Rogue traces one ordinary citizen's extraordinary journey and imparts Palin’s vision of a way forward for America and her unfailing hope in the greatest nation on earth.

Posted by: JakeD | October 7, 2009 2:08 PM | Report abuse

That "nobody" will be the next President of the United States.

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How do even manage to choose which leg to move next while walking if you're as stupid as this?

Palin isn't the "next" anything.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | October 7, 2009 2:07 PM | Report abuse

(cont.)

Hopefully, Gov. Palin's next Facebook entry says something like this:

Yes, my co-author is a wonderful lady named Lynn Vincent, and she helped me tremendously. Who wrote Obama's books? www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/09/andersen_book_blows_ayers_cove.html

Posted by: JakeD | October 7, 2009 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Topic #2 (just received this email):

Dear Friends -

After consulting my doctors and my family, I have made the difficult decision to withdraw from Dancing with the Stars before I do any permanent damage to my feet (or hips, which have clearly been working overtime). My DWTS journey has taken me from Sugar Land to Hollywood, and I am grateful for every moment: I got to dance on Ellen, make friends with an Osbourne, share the stage with an Osmond and was told I was "easy on the eyes" (by Carrie Ann Inaba). It's been a great ride.

I must thank my marvelous partner, Cheryl, for all of her dedication, skill and patience. I know it could not have been easy teaching an exterminator-turned-politician how to cha-cha or tango. Had it not been for her tremendous talent, I never would have made it past the first round. Her dancing ability is truly special, and I was fortunate enough to have such a gifted teacher as my partner.

A huge thank you to the thousands of folks who showed their support by calling, texting and clicking their votes to keep Cheryl and me in the competition. Without your enthusiastic support, we certainly would not have gotten as far as we did. Knowing I had so many people behind me made leaving the show that much harder, and I cannot thank you enough.

And of course, I must also thank my family for their incredible support and encouragement. My lovely wife and daughter always kept me going through the intense training sessions and live performances. I am blessed to have these two powerful women standing with me.

My friends, I hope you had as much fun watching us perform as we did performing. All in all, twisting my hips on the dance floor beats the heck out of twisting arms in Congress, and I'm going to miss dancing into your homes each week. That said, you better believe I'll be back at the finale to show Len, Bruno and Carrie Ann my two-step.

Thanks, and keep the faith,

Tom

Posted by: JakeD | October 7, 2009 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Obama will not follow McChrystal's prescription because the president will not believe that Karzai is forward looking enough to work with. If he were then the McChrystal plan would have been accepted. The only thing that would change Obama's mind on that is if Obama gets indications from Karzai that the Afghan is receptive to reason.

Iraq is not Afghanistan, it is a country with a developed culture going back millennia. The analogy is inaccurate.

Posted by: Gator-ron | October 7, 2009 1:49 PM | Report abuse

P.S. http://www.google.com has been taken over by a barcode, the Anti-Christ is coming!

Posted by: JakeD | October 7, 2009 1:39 PM | Report abuse

shrink2:

If everyone else in the world gets the N1H1 "vaccine" what are the chances that my wife and I will catch it?

Posted by: JakeD | October 7, 2009 1:38 PM | Report abuse

I agree, mike.

But I think, generally speaking, when neither candidate is very appealing, people tend to just not vote.

I see the danger for Corzine though in being if Dems stay home and R turnout is large because they just want a partisan win, they don't care if christie is sleazy.

Posted by: drindl | October 7, 2009 1:37 PM | Report abuse

FairlingtonBlade:

Well, if you look at the pollster.com trendlines, you see that it's mostly Christie taking a nosedive in the last few months, with Corzine being pretty steady at around 40%. Then Nate Silver put together a graph showing Daggett's percentage.

Links: http://www.pollster.com/polls/nj/09-nj-gov-ge-cvc.php?xml=http://www.pollster.com/flashcharts/content/xml/09NJGovGECvC.xml&choices=Christie,Corzine&phone=&ivr=&internet=&mail=&smoothing=&from_date=&to_date=&min_pct=&max_pct=&grid=&points=1&lines=1&colors=Christie-BF0014,Corzine-2247AF,Other-A69A37,Not%20Voting-1B8F3E

and: http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/10/in-new-jersey-two-glasses-half-empty.html

drindl:

I agree that if turnout is low, Corzine's chances go up. The danger for Corzine is if people are motivated to go out and vote against him.

Posted by: mnteng | October 7, 2009 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Shrink,

Sometimes I look at the links the nuts post just to see if they're an interesting nut or a boring one [like joke and snowflake] and I get this from this marie person's:


GOD WARNING DO NOT TAKE SWINE FLU SHOT 8-27-09 Serious forever control in serum. They will call it compulsory in a few days.
(This conforms to PsychoPolitics-Communist Address On Health Care and Control - Link on this page or here.

Twitter:
Sending God Warning Not To Take Swine Flu Shot and what to do. Serious control forever in serum. http://www.divine-way.com

So God has Twitter. Who knew.

Posted by: drindl | October 7, 2009 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, the surge worked so well in Iraq we're still there!

Yes he is an idiot all right. these parrots' vocabulary is mighty slim. although they can do is squak their buzzwords like 'the surge worked' over and over again, incoherently.

Posted by: drindl | October 7, 2009 1:26 PM | Report abuse

MarieDevine:

That's a good point that I hadn't even considered. In the United States, the Constitutional guarantee of religious practice from intrusion by government has been used by Christian Scientists and other religious groups to gain exemptions from legal requirements regarding forced medical treatments, child abuse and neglect (including medical neglect) in more than three quarters of the States. Will Obamacare contain the same exemptions?

For instance, there are statutes in 44 States which provide that children are not to be deemed abused or neglected merely because they are receiving treatment by spiritual means according to the tenets of a recognized religion. While these exemptions take different forms and interpretations in different States, the effect has been to limit the ability to prosecute parents for abuse or medical neglect of children as a result of religious practice. Certainly, they won't be forced to purchase health insurance too.

What do you think, mark_in_austin?

Posted by: JakeD | October 7, 2009 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Wow. After viewing the aftermath of the rectum bomb (or was it the Taco Bell Volcano menu, we may never know) on the Interpol website, I thought nothing else could shock me today.

Now this, a crazy person cites Lavrentii Beria in a screed against Health Care Reform.

The human condition, you just have to shake your head in wonder.

Posted by: shrink2 | October 7, 2009 1:15 PM | Report abuse

President Barack Obama only had those who agreed with him on the Health Care Reform, saying "nobody has more credibility with the American people on this issue than you do." Propaganda is giving the impression of agreement with one’s cause; we must always see both sides. Many doctors oppose.

We do not want mandatory health insurance or mandatory swine flu shots. My faith says to believe God and not man for healing; I have seen God heal what doctors say is impossible. "LP Beria, Psycho-Politics Address on Health Care and Control" said the only thing that could stop control of the people through Health Care was faith healing and it must be discredited and wiped out. Congress cannot force me to go against my religion. That is in the Constitution.

.... Details of threats and what we can do about them is at http://www.divine-way.com

Twitter:
Sending YouTube of Ronald Reagan Speaks Out Against Socialized Medicine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRdLpem-AAs

Posted by: MarieDevine | October 7, 2009 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Corzine is running some great radio ads in the Philadelphia market. They feature sound bites of Obama at a cheering rally listing ways New Jersey leads the country.

The GOP likes to huff about NJ unemployment, but looking at a map
http://money.cnn.com/news/storysupplement/economy/gapmap/index.htm

shows you that those GOP strongholds in the South are all doing worse. SC is almost 2 % pts higher -- I guess their citizens are lucky the state finally accepted stimulous money.

The GOP also likes to huff about NJ having high taxes, but it looks like many NJ citizens accept the high cost of living there as part of *getting* to live there. Living in Philly, I work with a lot of folks from NJ: they kick about the taxes but they LIKE it there and they are proud of their state.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | October 7, 2009 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Back on Topic # 6:

Sarah Palin urging Barack Obama to follow Gen. McChrystal's advice -- a surge in Afghanistan can work too -- maybe he will have learned his lesson from opposing the surge in Iraq that even he admits "worked better than anyone expected" (except for Bush, McCain, and me ; )

Posted by: JakeD | October 7, 2009 12:06 PM | Report abuse

"DDAWD: I must be! Fortunately, I started slapping myself in the head while yelling, "Wake up, idiot!""

Haha, admitting you have a problem is the first step. I can see the draw, though. The guy is so incredibly easy to shoot down, but it stops being a challenge and the rest of us just have all this nonsense to scroll through.

Besides, the interesting thing is to ignore him and see what he is willing to write to get attention on here.

Posted by: DDAWD | October 7, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

margaret: I'm done with him. We'll just leave his body of work for everyone to see. Then others can judge whether to engage him or not.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | October 7, 2009 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Stagecraft Is Not Always Statecraft...

"CALLING DR. HOWARD, DR. FINE, DR. HOWARD!"


Gotta admit, sending for the men in the white coats did not seem to convey the right message.

Reminds me of that old Three Stooges bit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVdUsgYA_D4

Whose idea was this white coat stunt?

Calling Toby Ziegler: Josh is going over the top again!


http://nowpublic.com/world/gestapo-usa-govt-funded-vigilante-network-terrorizes-america

Posted by: scrivener50 | October 7, 2009 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Careful what you say Koolkat. Don't get into the water isn't wet thing, OK? THAT goes on all day, and we've already heard more from Jake than we should in just 2 hours. His silly, off-topic point that Alaska is the *largest* state is typical of Jake in weasel mode. He'll bully, too, with his "answer my question" posts.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | October 7, 2009 11:48 AM | Report abuse

DDAWD: I must be! Fortunately, I started slapping myself in the head while yelling, "Wake up, idiot!"

I have had more productive conversations with my young children. And my dog. And the wall.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | October 7, 2009 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Exhibit A:

In the news today we learn...

"Hospitals, drugmakers and insurance companies have threatened to oppose legislation that does not deliver tens of millions of newly insured customers."

Posted by: shrink2 | October 7, 2009 11:46 AM | Report abuse

DDAWD:

He doesn't do so well with simple questions. Good luck though : )

Posted by: JakeD | October 7, 2009 11:43 AM | Report abuse

koolkat_1960

Are you an idiot or something? Why do you keep responding to him?

Posted by: DDAWD | October 7, 2009 11:41 AM | Report abuse

As you can see from other threads, no one wants to talk to either the joke or snow white.

Posted by: drindl | October 7, 2009 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Some who can answer simple "yes" or "no" questions, hopefully.

Posted by: JakeD | October 7, 2009 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Time to ignore this anklebiter. What a pest. Someone else can deal with his inanities.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | October 7, 2009 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Population is NOT "all that matters". I would be more than happy to answer your questions, though, just as soon as you answer my question to you: "Have you heard of 'Reagan Democrats'?" It's a simple "yes" or "no" question.

Posted by: JakeD | October 7, 2009 11:32 AM | Report abuse

"koolkat_1960:

Are you disputing the fact that Alaska is 663,268 square miles in area? The next largest State in the Union is "only" 268,581 square miles in area. I doubt many 3rd graders would know that (which may explain your posts, now that I think of it). Let me guess, you live in Rhode Island and suffer from Palin envy?"

And this is relevant to what, exactly? Seriously, are you really this infantile? Let me state it clearly, since you're playing Mickey the Dunce (a role you are perfect for): My post about Alaska being one of the smallest states referred to population, since that is all that matters. Moose and empty space don't vote. Get it? I apologize to the adult posters for wasting space like this, but when you are dealing with a child-level intellect, you have to take the extra time.

BTW, there are rumors in RI that Palin was thinking about moving there.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | October 7, 2009 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Barry gets a bunch of acorn workers bussed and and slaps a white coat on them. Then declares doctors support him

this is truly the photo op president.

Posted by: snowbama | October 7, 2009 11:22 AM | Report abuse

koolkat_1960:

Are you disputing the fact that Alaska is 663,268 square miles in area? The next largest State in the Union is "only" 268,581 square miles in area. I doubt many 3rd graders would know that (which may explain your posts, now that I think of it). Let me guess, you live in Rhode Island and suffer from Palin envy?

Posted by: JakeD | October 7, 2009 11:20 AM | Report abuse

"koolkat_1960:

Alaska is actually the LARGEST State in the Union (again, "definitions" get you every time).

Posted by: JakeD | October 7, 2009 11:11 AM | Report abuse"

More proof of the immaturity of joked. This is exactly the kind of inanity a third-grader would come up with.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | October 7, 2009 11:15 AM | Report abuse

koolkat_1960:

Alaska is actually the LARGEST State in the Union (again, "definitions" get you every time).

Posted by: JakeD | October 7, 2009 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Another day at the fix with drivl ranting and frothing nonstop.

Posted by: snowbama | October 7, 2009 11:11 AM | Report abuse

At least we'll get to see if your prediction is correct before mine ; )

Posted by: JakeD | October 7, 2009 11:06 AM | Report abuse

mteng -- the end result will still be the same. I think turnout will be low, as few have much enthusiasm for anyone in the NJ race, and Corzine will win in a squeaker.

Posted by: drindl | October 7, 2009 11:00 AM | Report abuse


WHAT GOOD IS HEALTH CARE REFORM... WHEN A COVERT 'MULTI-AGENCY COORDINATED ACTION PROGRAM' COMPROMISES THE HEALTH OF MANY THOUSANDS OF UNJUSTLY 'TARGETED' AMERICANS?

• Obama agenda, rule of law subverted by fed-funded, extrajudicial, warrantless GPS-activated vigilante grassroots Gestapo, protected by local law enforcement, with operatives within health care facilities -- compromising the quality of patient care.

* Microwave/laser radiation "directed energy weapons" deployed to silently torture and degrade the health and physiological functioning of unjustly targeted American citizens -- the weaponization of the electromagnetic spectrum.

• "Intelligence-based policing" a pretext for a security/military/intel social purge executed at the grassroots with the cooperation of local law enforcement.

PRESIDENT OBAMA:

BAN BY EXECUTIVE ORDER the use of directed energy weapons on American citizens...

...and BAN the warrantless, covert tracking of individuals via GPS devices or cell phones -- the electronic backbone of a nationwide American Gestapo.

http://nowpublic.com/world/gestapo-usa-govt-funded-vigilante-network-terrorizes-america

OR (if link is corrupted / disabled):

http://NowPublic.com/scrivener RE: "GESTAPO USA"

Posted by: scrivener50 | October 7, 2009 10:59 AM | Report abuse

I don't see any movement for Daggett in that polling. A max of 13% and I though he'd been polling around the low teens anyway. I thought he had a good performance in the debate last week (thank you, C-SPAN), but he doesn't seem to be gaining traction.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | October 7, 2009 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Onorato getting in for the PA Gov. race makes this primary much more interesting. He's likely to give more of a challenge to Wagner than Hoeffel (or Knox). But the R primary between Gerlach and Corbett is still the one to watch.

A better analysis of the Corzine/Christie race would show that Corzine isn't gaining as much as Christie is losing. Daggett is the one gaining, albeit modestly.

Posted by: mnteng | October 7, 2009 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Mark, sorry, fell back asleep, what a week so far. Anyway, just quickly, I and everyone I know in the profession support the passage of any bill that provides for portability, affordability and (nearly) universal coverage.

This bill, the Chair's Mark, however, expands all that is wrong with the existing system in order to achieve those goals. It is going to be very, very costly.

On to the AMA. This is a lobbying organization of course; in all of its actions, it supports physician image, income and authority, it is nothing else. As I've said before, a bill that is supported by all sectors of the industry, all winners, no losers can not be considered reform. Pharma supporting drug cost reform, Monsanto supporting seed patent reform, trial lawyers supporting tort reform, you get the picture.

So we are not heading for health care reform, we are heading for spending expansion. This is considered a necessary step on the way to systemic health reform, I suppose. But it is going to suck a lot of money up on the way, money that could be spent on other things, like protecting the dollar (servicing the debt).

Fortunately, it will create lots and lots of living wage jobs and so I think it will be a real stimulus package, unlike the first one, which was more about safety net spending.



Posted by: shrink2 | October 7, 2009 10:44 AM | Report abuse

"your world will be crushed"

You underestimate is powers of self-delusion.

Posted by: nodebris | October 7, 2009 10:44 AM | Report abuse

No joked, how bout I type what I want, just like you do. Such as yesterday when you kept insisting Sidarth was a "plant" despite clear evidence that he was no such thing.

As for bringing up Reagan, in the words of the Great Communicator, "There you go again!" Reagan was a mainstream conservative from the biggest state in the country. Palin is an inarticulate fringe nut and small-town hack with a long history of penny-ante squabbles, who hails from one of the smallest states in the union.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | October 7, 2009 10:27 AM | Report abuse

I AM laughing. But your world will be crushed when that silly woman doesn't go anywhere. But I relish it, because she will be the nail in the coffin for conservatives. She will split the R party wide open, because there are too many republicans who have too much self-respect to vote for a joke, and many of them have already said so.

Btw, her book is being ordered in mass by rightwing orgs to prop it up. I've already gotten an email offering it at a deep discount.

Posted by: drindl | October 7, 2009 10:25 AM | Report abuse

koolkat_1960:

Have you ever heard of Reagan Democrats? The GOP field didn't just roll over for him either. Instead of you putting words in my mouth, how about you just stick with what I actually type.

Posted by: JakeD | October 7, 2009 10:08 AM | Report abuse

It seems a little late in the game to put some lipstick on this... never mind. By the way, who is Sarah Palin's favorite medium?

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | October 7, 2009 10:07 AM | Report abuse

Laugh now, drindl, because you won't be after Election Day 2012.

Posted by: JakeD | October 7, 2009 10:04 AM | Report abuse

joked seems to think the rest of the GOP contenders and the party leadership are just going to roll over for this moron.

Further, joked must seem to think that even if that were to happen, this rightwingnut loon would be able to attract a substantial portion of moderate and independent voters.

I guess this is the kind of nonsense we'll have to put up with on these boards for the next three years -- or until the Palin candidacy is crushed, whichever comes first.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | October 7, 2009 10:03 AM | Report abuse

joked seems to think the rest of the GOP contenders and the party leadership are just going to roll over for this moron.

Further, joked must seem to think that even if that were to happen, this rightwingnut loon would be able to attract a substantial portion of moderate and independent voters.

I guess this is the kind of nonsense we'll have to put up with on these boards for the next four three years -- or until the Palin candidacy is crushed, whichever comes first.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | October 7, 2009 10:02 AM | Report abuse

I see we finally get a note about Corzine's rise in the polls. Once people got to know how sleazy christie is, that was guaranteed.

Posted by: drindl | October 7, 2009 10:01 AM | Report abuse

He also warned Napoleon about Waterloo. Or maybe he is Napoleon, I forget.

Posted by: drindl | October 7, 2009 9:57 AM | Report abuse

Almost 2/3 of all physicians favor a public option, and 58% favor lowering the Medicare eligibility age to 55. This per a recent Robert Wood Johnson Foundation survey published in the New England Journal of Medicine.

Posted by: Garak | October 7, 2009 9:57 AM | Report abuse

In 1776, he predicted there would be a revolution.

Posted by: drindl | October 7, 2009 9:56 AM | Report abuse

How many "nobodies" get their book to #1 (as Mr. Cillizza noted above) without Oprah's help?

Posted by: JakeD | October 7, 2009 9:44 AM | Report abuse

In 1977, I predicted that Reagan would run and beat Carter too. Even clinically insane people can be right.

Posted by: JakeD | October 7, 2009 9:39 AM | Report abuse

And here I thought joked was insane for his flat prediction that Rep. Cao will be re-elected. Now it's "Sarah Palin will be the next president."

Forget insane, there is no clinical word to describe this mental condition.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | October 7, 2009 9:34 AM | Report abuse

That "nobody" will be the next President of the United States. Let's see if you scream louder than the "birthers" about that.

Posted by: JakeD | October 7, 2009 9:30 AM | Report abuse

The General is a General. He should keep his mouth shut except when he is asked but he is still a General.

Sarah Palin is a nobody.

Posted by: drindl | October 7, 2009 9:26 AM | Report abuse

Is Gen McChrystal also a "teenage girl" for recommending an additional 40,000 US troops in Afghanistan?

Posted by: JakeD | October 7, 2009 9:18 AM | Report abuse

I guess if she could have run alaska, she wouldn't have quit, would she?

Posted by: drindl | October 7, 2009 9:14 AM | Report abuse

The argument is simple enough. Republicans/conservatives want your health entrusted to insurance companies, Obama wants to hand it over to doctors.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: parkerfl1 | October 7, 2009 9:05 AM | Report abuse

And the hyperbole begins anew (any "teenage girl" could run Alaska).

Posted by: JakeD | October 7, 2009 9:04 AM | Report abuse

JohnAdams1,

“They clearly are not equal given the dismal mortality rate as a direct result of doctor incompetence and care.”

Most of the medical problems in this country can be traced back to our lifestyle choices. We talk of preventable diseases then go out to McDonalds and super size our meals (i.e., have to get the extra value). The fitness of the average adult in this country is shameful. It’s rather idiotic to blame doctors for problems we self induce.

“doctors are the main cause of uselesss procedures and drgs given to patients.”

While doctors prescribe the useless procedures, they do it often because a patient requests/demands the procedure (the internet is not always a good thing) and they do it response to potential legal liability. I have not heard of doctors prescribing usless drugs. My wife (pediatrician) takes a minimalist approach to prescribing medication. However, a distraught mother or father with kid having a severe ear ache will demand some form of medication. My wife tells them most ear aches will clear-up on their own and tells them to come back later for further evaluation. Often the parent storms out and may time seeks a doctor who will prescribe an antibiotic. On the flip side, my wife will prescribe medication to many of her indigent clients since coming to the community clinic can be costly, not to mention they often use the emergency rooms in hospitals as their follow-up exam (i.e., the first doctor did not do their job).

My wife does not see the public option helping to control cost since the volume of services is by far the greatest driver of cost not insurance companies. The current plan does little to lower the volume of services.

Posted by: sltiowa | October 7, 2009 9:03 AM | Report abuse

"She still remains a potent force -- for good or ill depends on your partisan leanings"

No, it depends on whether you want an actual leader, or a diletante and quitter.

Sarah's facebook musings have about as much credibility as the average teenage girl's in that medium, talking about what color they are painting their toenails.

Posted by: drindl | October 7, 2009 8:56 AM | Report abuse

My friends who are are docs and my internist and everyone in her group is for -- as they say, it has to be better than what we have now. They know too many people who can't get decent care.

Posted by: drindl | October 7, 2009 8:52 AM | Report abuse

The doctors I work with at Johns Hopkins support the idea of reform, but for them the devil is in the details. For example one of the amendments that will be up for a vote would increase payments for pathological tests run by for-profit independent companies, but not for not for profit universities. This would basically mean that the pathological departments at Universities would make less for the same tests that private companies do.

Now this probably won't pass, but it shows its the small details that doctors are concerned about. Their support for a public option on the other hand depends alot on their personal beliefs. The ones that are more conservative don't like the idea of a public option, where as those that are more liberal in their thinking strongly support a medicare style public option.

Posted by: AndyR3 | October 7, 2009 8:23 AM | Report abuse

doctors as a profession have lost respect steadily for the past 30 years and deservedly so. They clearly are not equal given the dismal mortality rate as a direct result of doctor incompetence and care.

The growth of doctor corporations that bilk
the medical system is shameful and cannot go on.

citizens need to out these crooks and maybe that would stop them--clearly the checks we have in place is not working.

doctors are the main cause of uselesss procedures and drgs given to patients.

reform has to start with the doctors and we need a bifurcated system that allows hospitals to salary doctors.

most healthcare is low tech and the shills should stop touting hi tech medicine.

Posted by: JohnAdams1 | October 7, 2009 8:08 AM | Report abuse

I'm surprised President Obama found this many physicians to stand in support after hearing him twice trash their profession. One in a news conference where he said (paraphrasing) that instead of taking a cheaper and safer way of treating diabetes they would look at the insurance pay chart and decide to amputate a leg because they could make 20, 30 or 40 thousand dollars. Then he said the same in another speech but that had to do with tonsillectomy. Yes, doctors and nurses are among the most respected professions and rightly so. I do wonder about politicians and especially politicians who are lawyers.

Posted by: jack71 | October 7, 2009 8:00 AM | Report abuse

Journalists actually don't do that badly in the polls. Yeah, they are ranked behind accountants and funeral directors, but those two jobs are probably as morally neutral as you can get. Above funeral directors, you have clergy, cops, and docs. You can't expect journalists to be among those guys. They are either at the bottom of the morally neutral guys or at the top of the morally negative list. They certainly aren't near the bottom.

Posted by: DDAWD | October 7, 2009 7:59 AM | Report abuse

mgd1, I agree with you this far: if a "public option" is modeled after M/M, as it was in the House Bill, then doing so before having fixed these two yawning black holes is opening a third rift in the universe. But suppose the public option were simply allowing us to buy into the Federal Employees Health Plan? Suppose it were simply funding more public/private clinic care with the adjunct of training more docs and nurses and paying off their school debt in consideration for years of clinic or public health service?

Would you do nothing - or is it the obvious terrible flaw of not dealing correctly with M/M that bugs you, as it does me?

And do you understand the internal AMA politics here?

Posted by: mark_in_austin | October 7, 2009 7:23 AM | Report abuse

I am a nurse opposed to the current plan for health care reform.

The fact that the political leadership fails to acknowledge the deficits of our current public programs and offers no plan to fix those deficits is an awful crime.

We first must fix those programs - Medicare and Medicaid - that "cover" our elderly and needy so they provide good coverage and adequate payment for services (so you can find providers who will take these patients).

Then let's move on the rest of less needy Americans who lack health care coverage.

Posted by: mgd1 | October 7, 2009 7:04 AM | Report abuse

shrink, my physician and surgeon friends are deeply split on universal health care along the lines [it seems] of specialty. My medicare doc is for it. He supports the AMA position as I understand it, while my friends and acquaintances in the more limited specialties are unenthusiastic, at best. You are a P&S with a specialty who works in a publicly funded setting. Pls help me understand why BHO should not seek AMA support.
Your post makes me think I am missing the nuances of internal AMA politics completely.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | October 7, 2009 7:01 AM | Report abuse

Tom "Quitter" DeLay.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | October 7, 2009 6:20 AM | Report abuse

Obama doing a "health reform" photo op with the AMA is as absurd as Palin saying anything whatsoever about war strategy.

Posted by: shrink2 | October 7, 2009 6:14 AM | Report abuse

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