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Rick Perry wins in Texas, Democrats pounce

1. Texas Republican Gov. Rick Perry's convincing primary victory over Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison and party activist Debra Medina should give his general election campaign against former Houston mayor Bill White a boost of momentum in the short term. But, Democrats are convinced that Perry's victory has turned Texas into a real pickup opportunity for them due to the incumbent's polarizing presence -- particularly among independent and unaligned voters. In a memo released even before the polls closed on Tuesday night, Democratic Governors Association executive director Nathan Daschle sent a memo titled "Why Democrats can win Texas" to the press corps. "During his long, brutal primary, Perry has sprinted to the far right -- going so far as to suggest that Texas secede from the United States," wrote Daschle. "No incumbent governor in the country has experienced a primary as long or expensive as Perry." (Left unsaid by Daschle is that Perry surprisingly avoided six more weeks of a runoff campaign when he crested 50 percent on Tuesday.) Daschle also made clear what's at stake in the race with the Lone Star State expected to pick up four congressional seats in redistricting and the governor nearly certain to have a heavy hand in where and how those districts are allocated. "The changes that will take place this November in Texas and around the country will shape our national political landscape for a generation to come," insisted Daschle. The challenge for Democrats in making this race competitive is almost exactly the same challenge that Hutchison failed at during the primary: make Perry the issue by highlighting some of his more outlandish statements. Perry, regardless of what you think of him as a governor, is a remarkably effective politician and has, to date, demonstrated an ability to define his opponents before they can define him. Need evidence? Perry, a man who has served as governor of the state since 1998 2000, turned himself into the outsider in the primary -- a masterful bit of campaign rhetoric that confounded Hutchison. Perry did only take 39 percent of the vote in his 2006 reelection race -- a weak showing for any incumbent -- but he faced a four-way field in a terrible year nationally for Republicans. There's still eight months until the November election but 2010 is shaping up to be a far better year for the GOP nationally and Perry will likely benefit from a bit of wind at his back.

2. The lingering question in the wake of Hutchison's defeat is whether she will make good on her previously stated promise to resign her seat regardless of the outcome of the gubernatorial primary. Given her past record of hemming and hawing on the resignation issue, there are few Republican observers who believe Hutchison will step aside before her term ends in 2012 (or even then). Should she surprise the Republican establishment, however, and step aside, state law would allow Perry to appoint a temporary successor -- a final indignity to Hutchison -- until a special election could be held for the remaining two years of her term. The only announced candidate for the race-that-is-not-yet-a-race is Railroad Commissioner Michael Williams, the first African American to hold statewide office in Texas. Williams has been running for the better part of the last year and has won the endorsement of emerging conservative kingpin Sen. Jim DeMint (S.C.). DeMint, in fact, has launched an online petition aimed at gathering support for Williams to be Perry's replacement pick. Regardless of whom Perry picks, a special election is likely in November and the Republican field could be crowded. The preferred candidate of the party establishment is Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst who was unopposed in his primary race on Tuesday. Dewhurst has immense personal wealth coupled with his current status as the state's second ranking Republican official would likely give him a leg up in holding the seat. Other Republicans mentioned include former Secretary of State Roger Williams and state Sen. Florence Shapiro. With former Houston mayor Bill White, who was running for the Senate vacancy until late last year now the Democratic nominee for governor, former state comptroller John Sharp, who has lost two races for lieutenant governor -- in 1998 and 2002 -- is the odds-on favorite to win the Democratic nod (if there is a nod to be won).

3. Arkansas Lt. Gov. Bill Halter (D) is quickly becoming the darling of the liberal left in his primary challenge to Sen. Blanche Lincoln. In the space of just 36 hours, four liberal groups -- Moveon.org, the Progressive Change Campaign Committee, Democracy for America and the Daily Kos blog -- collected more than $1 million for his campaign, a remarkable total that suggests that Lincoln's presumed cash advantage in the race may be in some jeopardy. And today the Sierra Club launches two weeks of radio ads blasting Lincoln for backing a "Big Oil bailout" in the form of her support for an effort by Alaska Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R) to keep the Environmental Protection Agency from overseeing greenhouse gas emissions. Seeking to build on the momentum from his announcement earlier this week, Halter launched his first ad Tuesday night -- a 30-second commercial touting his accomplishments as lieutenant governor (blocking the privatization of Social Security, championing a state scholarship lottery to help pay for education) while he holds a football and is cheered on by his old coach. One Democratic strategist closely following the race noted that Halter's ad bears a striking resemblance to the commercials in which he appeared in support of the lottery in 2008. (Halter's ads are being done by Laguens Kully Klose while Lake Research is handling the polling.) To date, Lincoln has yet to air any television advertising despite her $5 million campaign warchest and the relatively cheap cost of a statewide ad buy in Arkansas. That strategy may change in the coming days -- particularly if Halter's early fundraising continues at anywhere close to its current pace.

4. California Attorney General Jerry Brown (D) officially entered the governor's race Tuesday, seeking to win the office more than three decades after he first held it. "When I was governor, California added 1.9 million new jobs in eight years," Brown said in a video announcing his decision. "I know we can do it again and be the leader in renewable energy, good jobs and quality schools." Brown also took a subtle shot at former eBay CEO Meg Whitman who is currently leading state Insurance Commissioner Steve Poizner in the race for the Republican gubernatorial nod, insisting that the solution to the state's woes "is not a scripted plan cooked up by consultants or mere ambition to be governor." While Whitman seems perfectly content to start the general election fight against Brown -- her campaign began a series of press releases Tuesday quoting some of the more provocative statements by the former governor -- Poizner is doing everything he can to turn the Republican primary into a real race. After allowing Whitman to dominate the California airwaves for weeks, Poizner launched his first two ads on the contest. In one, a narrator attacks Whitman as a "liberal" and derides her "weak" response to the crises that confront California while in the other Poizner speaks directly to the camera to advocate a 10 percent across the board tax cut to "jumpstart the economy and create new jobs." ALSO READ: Timesman Adam Nagourney's take on the California Senate race.

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By Chris Cillizza  |  March 3, 2010; 6:22 AM ET
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Obama and the democrats are getting dangerously close to breaking the Senate rules - which will create a crisis like none other in American history.

What makes it even worse, is recorded statements by Obama and Biden on the exact subjects in 2005.

We may be in the territory of breaking the laws - the Constitution says the Senate makes its own rules - if there is an effort to break those rules - it is unConstitutional - and may qualify as High Crimes and Misdemeeanors.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 3, 2010 6:21 PM | Report abuse

We have a 3 Trillion Dollar - basically unfunded program - which the democrats are attempting to FORCE A FINANCIAL CRISIS ONTO A FUTURE CONGRESS IN ORDER TO RAISE THE TAXES TO PAY FOR HEALTH CARE.


When the American People realize fully what the finances are, Obama's name and legacy will be synonymous with overspending and financial nightmares.


To spend and never know how it will be payed for - to obama.


To get stuck with a bill (like at a restaurant) - to get obamaed.


To try to get a friend to pay his share of the bill at a restaurant - Man, you are not going to obama me, are you ?


To force a program or a rule on an unwilling person - to ram an obama.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 3, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Almost everything Clinton did turned out to be a disaster


Clinton's trade deals have made a mess of our economy


Clinton repealed the Wall Street financial regulations - which led to the bubbles - which led to today's mess -


To blame Bush for any of that is just not correct.


In the Middle East, Clinton had a horrible practically pacifist policy which led to 9/11.


We had the first world trade center bombing


Khobar Towers bombing


The two American embassies bombing in Keyna and Tanzania


They bombed our apartment buildings in Saudi Arabia.


The USS Cole.


THE POLICY YOU ARE ADVOCATING FAILED.


OK - it failed. you are a complete idiot.


The reason it failed, because you are a complete idiot - is because we never hit them hard enough in the 1990s and we ended up with 9/11.


Clinton WAS A COMPLETE DISASTER AS A PRESIDENT - he made a mess of everything.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 3, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

JRM2


You really liked my comment, huh ?


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 3, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Thanks 37th, you just explained what Republicans have been doing to the american people for over thirty years, especially from 2000 - 2009

"To spend and never know how it will be payed for - to Republisize.


To get stuck with a bill (like at a restaurant) - to get Republicated.


To try to get a friend to pay his share of the bill at a restaurant - Man, you are not going to Repub me, are you ?


To force a program or a rule on an unwilling person - to ram a GOP."

Posted by: JRM2 | March 3, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

"It's a place that people believe they have control of their future"
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Or maybe others future's a la Enron

Posted by: JRM2 | March 3, 2010 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Obama speaking now.

Posted by: JakeD3 | March 3, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

@everyone,

Since I'm the one who made such a big deal about plagiarism, I'm going to repeat that none of us should want to rip off the words of others.

Noacoler tells us how to copy and paste the link for sites we quote.

ALT D (highlights the link address)
Ctrl C (copies the link address)
Ctrl V (pastes the link into the post)

We'll be more credible in our posts if we credit other writers and thinkers. I know I sound like a damn schoolteacher, sorry.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | March 3, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

@mil1,

Thank you for your thoughtful explanation of the Texas way. I'm also from a large western state. That's a pretty good description of the Montana way. We should all try to understand and respect why some of the energy rich states have a more "sovereign" view of themselves. Nothing wrong with it and a lot right with it.

BTW, I am a liberal.

Aside: I wish hospitals where I live had discounts for cash. Around here, they charge you more.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | March 3, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

part II


The Tea Party isn't everyone in Texas but it is significant here because it the electors saying they aren't being heard and want their vote to mean something more (for instance more then the 17% Debra Medina got for governor). These aren't angry Nazi-like people. These are people who see their children and grandchildren having a difficult time because the govt has decided to weigh them down with an unreasonable tax burden. These are small business owners wondering if they can wait out the recession and worried that they will need to lay off valued employees. These are people seeing a train wreck ahead and worried as heck what is coming. (oh, and we pay as we go for health care--yup, because doctors in Texas charge individuals differently, and cheaper, then they charge insurance companies--funny isn't it and gives us even more reason to wonder about govt influence over it all.)

None of the above is probably any different from most of your fears--which is my point exactly. Why are they do they go to Tea Party meetings and you don't? Well, it may go back to whose at the meeting--their neighbors, friends, etc or it may go back to their total distrust of govt. Texans, honestly and conscientiously (that is is thoughtfully) dislike the govt in anything that isn't what they consider it's very limited business.

Yes, we have big business--one of the biggest, energy. And yes we have Democrats, but they are more like Bill White then President Obama--business-friendly and with a social conscious but also a view to the limits of govt (to spite the fact White supports expansion of CHIP!). (We all think we have this by the way...both sides).

OK trolls, troll away....buy my sister, the democrat, still loves me anyway....so there.

Posted by: mil1 | March 3, 2010 1:26 PM | Report abuse

I am not sure any of you really understand why people live and work in Texas but without jingoism I will try to give a straight answer. (all the trolls will have a field day...so be it.) maybe this will give those of you that think it's a vast waste of space some more information. Then I would also recommend you come and visit and talk to us...really.

Remember this isn't me putting out political points.

If you are actually trying to decide what will happen in Texas try remembering that it's 25 million people who live, work and believe in Texas as both a state and a state of mind. A place without state income tax, with a belief in limited govt (Texas state Congress official can deal with--roads and education and very little else). The state Congress meets only 3 months out of 18 and must set a budget in that limited time to run a state for 2 years.

It's a place that people believe they have control of their future and have the ability to have a stake in that future by who they elect. Also it's people who believe when they arrive in Washington DC to visit set up meetings with their Congressmen to talk about what is happening and express their opinion to them. Those of you back east and even in Washington may think this is quaint but Texans aren't being tourists, they are being electors and they want to be involved.

part I...to be continued.
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Posted by: mil1 | March 3, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

you poor man. a crush on a woman you will, trust me, never meet. you have made yourself a laughingstock here.

Posted by: drindl | March 3, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

'But the truth is that Ayn Rand's philosophy is at the root of the misery that Americans are suffering from today.'

Yes, nihilism, social darwinism. Beck says it out loud -- 'it's a jungle out there, the weak, the disabled, die -- they're supposed to.'

'I wonder how many elections this fall will end as the election in the Futurama episode "A Head in the Polls" ended.
Farnsworth: I can't believe it. He won by a single vote.
Bender: Well it ain't my fault. I'm a non-voting felon, thank you.
Fry: Well it's not my fault either 'cause I forgot to vote.
Leela: Oh, crud. I knew there was something I meant to do today.'

texas just did it. incredibly low turnout. but then when people don't beleive in gov't, that's what you get. when the social contract gets shredded, what you have, and what we will have is anarchy.

i'm sure it's only a matter of time before the chip on their shoulder yahoos are out in in the streets with their assault weapons, shooting up everyone who looks like a Democrat. It's already happened once this year -- in a church.

Posted by: drindl | March 3, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Thank you for conveying my sentiments as well to 'doof'. Actually, I'm thinking he might be zouk/moonbat/drivel. he fits his naming pattern and is just as much or more offensive.

some posters here change their names a lot to pretend they aren't on her all day long because they have nothing else to do.

Posted by: drindl


dribbl rants about ranting. dribbl rants about having a life.

that's dribbl.

Posted by: drivl | March 3, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

drivel/zouk -- is that all there is to your life? to obssess about me? poor thing... you really are pathetic.

Posted by: drindl | March 3, 2010 1:10 PM | Report abuse

http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2010/03/teabag-poster-boys-by-digby-mother.html

dribbl rants against plaigerism. then does it.

dribbl rants agaiinst idiocy. dribbl rants against deficits. dribbl rants against corruption. dribbl rants against not having a job. dribbl rants against posting here all day.

summary: dribbl rants

Posted by: drivl | March 3, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Incidentally, jaxas70, I do agree with you that a whole heck of a lot of Americans don't seem to understand our elected officials got to where they are today because we, um, elected them. And that they have no one but themselves to blame for whatever perceived injustices are committed by our elected officials. I'll even raise you one -- they tend to not understand, when kvetching that such-and-such elected official "doesn't represent us" or "isn't listening to the people," that the people wouldn't agree the color of an orange and that such-and-such elected official might be listening to the people saying the opposite of what the one kvetching is saying. You know, the ones who actually voted for him.

I wonder how many elections this fall will end as the election in the Futurama episode "A Head in the Polls" ended.
Farnsworth: I can't believe it. He won by a single vote.
Bender: Well it ain't my fault. I'm a non-voting felon, thank you.
Fry: Well it's not my fault either 'cause I forgot to vote.
Leela: Oh, crud. I knew there was something I meant to do today.

Posted by: GJonahJameson | March 3, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

I would endeavor to say, jaxas70, that if the media were to treat every political figure and-or movement that gets compared to Hitler as seriously as it -- and the U.S. in general -- should have taken Hitler, it would never have the time to cover anything else.

Let's face it: In our political system, everything and everyone gets compared to Hitler at some point. My dad served one term on the local school board, and even he got compared to Hitler once -- during an argument over attendance boundary redistricting, no less. My history books must have neglected to mention Hitler's passion for nonsensical school attendance boundary redistricting. Dang liberal textbook manufacturers.

Hitler and the Nazis are our society's most recent example of sheer, undisputed evil on a large scale, so anytime someone is trying to make a point about how awful some politician or political party or whatever is, Hitler is bound to come up as a comparison. President Obama is Black Hitler, President Bush is Cowboy Hitler, Nancy Pelosi is Botox Hitler, Dick Cheney is Penguin Hitler. All available at your local Toys backwards 'R' Us, next to the Barbie aisle.

I know you're thinking, "Yeah, but in this case, I actually have some historical precedents and expert testimony to back up my Hitler comparison," but again, every case has that. I've seen some Web postings and letters to the editor explaining in great detail why Obama is just like Hitler -- citing all sorts of historical trivia and perceived similarities using a lot of big, intelligent-sounding words -- instead of just "OBAMA IS BAD HITLER WAS BAD THEY ARE TEH SAMEZ~." And I think you'd probably agree with me that those arguments, apparently well-supported though they may be, are pure, weapons-grade bolonium.

For every extremist political movement that succeeds as the Nazis did, there are half a billion that fail monumentally. And if the media were to take every single one of them seriously, it would have even more people regarding it as a joke than it does today.

Posted by: GJonahJameson | March 3, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

I agree with you drindl. Indeed, I am utterly shocked that there is this resurgence of Ayn Rand thinking given the fact that here entire economic philosophy has so utterly failed when it is actually applied in government policy. No more graphic example of Ayn Rand's failed obsolete philosopy can be found than in the utterly failed supply side policies of both Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush.

Conservatives have done an admirable job of sweeping Reagan's famous capitulation on supply side economics in 1983 when he scrapped that policy in favor of increasing payroll taxes on the wealthy to pay for his increased defense spending. And George W. Bush's now infamous tax cuts in 2001 and 2003--which I predicted would put a gaping hole in the budget because they were misdirected to investors in an an already overcapitalized business environment--cannot be swept under the rug by any amount of revisionism.

Of course I would bet that most of the bloggers have no conception of what we are talking about here because Ayn Rand is among the educated elites that they usually mistrust. But the truth is that Ayn Rand's philosophy is at the root of the misery that Americans are suffering from today.

Posted by: jaxas70 | March 3, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

"What you see as a movement being pushed forward by a sizable number of crazy people, a lot of others see as a movement headed by a few crazy people and being pushed forward by a sizable number of stupid people. And if you want the media to stop devoting so much coverage to stupid people, you're going to have to convince a lot of Americans to stop being so enamored with stupid people."

Indeed, the media love these folks. the more swastikas they wear, the more assault weapons they carry, the more tea bags they wear on their glasses, the better the media love them and coddle them and treat them as if they had an actual point of view rather than an incoherent jumble of hatred and conspiracy theories.

Posted by: drindl | March 3, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

I understand what you are saying GJonahJameison, but the problem is that history is whispering into my ear. Specifically the history of Germany in the 1920s and 1930s. The rest of the civilized world thought that Hitler and the Nazis were a joke. But they underestimated the underlying anger and resentment of the German people fueled by their defeat in WWI and the Versailles Treaty which was perceived as humiliating and oppressive.

I see some of those same resentments in America that can be harnessed to a far more sinister effort that has little interest in actually solving our problems but gaining power. When you have a politician noted for using provocative, divisive, even treasonous rhetoric like Perry has done in Texas and he still gets 5!% of the vote, that has to be taken seriously. And I do not see our media treating this with the degree of seriouslness it warrants.

Indeed, our media is treating it just like the rest of the world treated Hitler and the Nazis. As a joke.

Posted by: jaxas70 | March 3, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

our deteriorating school system, high drop out rate and lunancy suggestions of secession drive away CEOs that are considering relocating their corp.headquarters to Texas and the way it should be framed. While our economy is in better shape than most of the country our unemployment rate is at a 20 year high, that is something difficult to put on a bumper sticker. You want more corp jobs here in Texas then fix our broken school system and turn us into a state like Va that prides itself on its schools system. I am sure we will here from Perry about our state's low taxes. What a joke, we have one of the highest property tax rates in the country which is paying for our failed education system.

Posted by: leichtman1 | March 3, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Who does Rick Perry thing the "government" actually is? Who does he think Washington is? For that matter, for all of you anti-Washington, anti-government wackos out there, who are you actually talking about when you throw spitballs at Washington?

Consider this. From 1988 to 2008, for 12 of those years a Texan was in the White House. From 1964 to 1980, we had a Texan, two conservatives from southern California, and a Georgian. That accounted for 41 of that 16 year periods with Gerald Ford of Michigan as a placeholder after Nixon resigned in disgrace. For 12 years from 1994 to 2006, a very conservative House with Newt Gingrich in charge had power in the House. For 4 years under a conservative republican President from Texas, the conservative republicans controlled both Houses in addition to the Presidency.

Yet, looking at all of this funky, noisy, smelly bunch of hooligans in the street one would get the impression that conservatives have had no part to play in this broken government we now have. Indeed, this government is broken precisely because we have had too freaking much of them.

The fact that this dumbest of all American electorates who have now been so easily seduced into this unbelievable spectacle of the right pretending that it has been put upon these many years is a sad commentary on the utter lack of political sophistication on the part of the voters in America.

It is lamentable that if the trend keeps up, they will have succeeded in rewarding the very people who have caused them so much misery. In my mind, they deserve what they get. A few years from now, assuming the GOP is back in power, when the entire edifice crumbles under the facade od supply side economics, the American people will get no sympathy from me. This is what comes from an apathetic, uneducated, lazy citizenry that doesn't do its homework.

Posted by: jaxas70 | March 3, 2010 11:27 AM | Report abuse

jaxas70, huge groups of gullible people can be manipulated into shouting almost anything. Try starting a "U-S-A!" chant in almost any situation, no matter how inappropriate, and see how many people quickly pick it up. Remember the scene from "Borat" when the titular character gets the audience at a rodeo cheering as he evokes the image of President Bush drinking the blood of his adversaries?

But what I think you're doing is equating the desire to angrily shout things about which one has little or no understanding with the desire to take violent action over things about which one has little or no understanding. I get the distinct impression that a vast majority of the people burning with vague, unfocused rage at the government don't have the gall to do anything about it except yell and vote (with the former a higher priority than the latter). Hey, a whole bunch of President Bush's most vocal opponents said they were going to move to Canada or whatever if he got re-elected in 2004, but maybe .00001 percent of them actually followed through with it. And that was just about moving to Canada! I mean, sure, Canada is cold, and it uses the Demon Metric System, but it's not nearly as unpleasant as getting shot in the face, which is what you stand a pretty decent chance of if you're actually part of an active secession movement.

Anyway, even in the unlikely case that the secession argument starts gaining steam, the Republican Party will put a stop to it because it needs that reliable Texas vote for national elections.

What you see as a movement being pushed forward by a sizable number of crazy people, a lot of others see as a movement headed by a few crazy people and being pushed forward by a sizable number of stupid people. And if you want the media to stop devoting so much coverage to stupid people, you're going to have to convince a lot of Americans to stop being so enamored with stupid people.

Posted by: GJonahJameson | March 3, 2010 11:20 AM | Report abuse

the keys will be turnout in the African American precincts and River Oaks the same for Dallas and raising $25-$50 million to get on tv by May 1 before we start hearing all the liberal garbage out of Perry. I have said it here numerous times, Perry is a nasty campaigner and will and do anything to hold onto power. White is fluent in Spanish and that should be a plus in the valley. If we can hold onto to Houston with a plus 10% the Valley and San Antonio and b/e in Dallas White could win a squeaker. The wealthy educated neighborhoods, country club Rs truly dispise Perry. Right now Perry has $13 million to start sliming White, White has $5.4 million. He needs to clse the fundraising advantage in the next 30 days but I still think he needs a huge turmnout in the AA precincts and what I am volunteering to do.
Incidentally it looks like McElroy lost and their is a runoff for Russell in Austin. McElroy has been a national disgrace for Texas along with Dunbar who were not on the ballots in Houston.

Posted by: leichtman1 | March 3, 2010 11:18 AM | Report abuse

'This is simple Randism, which is the real basis of Tea Party anti-government faux populism. They may not "believe in" Wall Street bailouts, but they don't believe in unemployment insurance either.(And in return for no bailouts, they are ready to lift all regulations and constraints on business, while the average Joe gets the "freedom" to starve.)

The biggest problem is that this foolish tea party ignorance is having the effect of normalizing the adolescent "individualism" of the Ayn Rand cult beyond the boardrooms and estates of the Master of the Universe. The "parasites" are now anyone who has the misfortune to lose his or her job in the worst recession since the 1930s --- a recession that was caused by millionaire con men who are reaping big bonuses these days.'

Posted by: drindl | March 3, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse


It's way outside the normal consensus about what is expected of our government during an economic downturn and it could be the beginning of something really ugly. Up until now there was no question that it would be political suicide, much less morally wrong, to make massive numbers of unemployed, working and middle class workers, pay in order to make an ideological point. But with these incoherent tea partiers and nihilistic libertarians pulling the same kind of out sized influence the neocons did during the Great GWOT scare, this is what happens. We lose our moral consensus.

Here are some more examples:


On the March 1 edition of his nationally syndicated radio show, Rush Limbaugh said: "Now, who knew? Who knew? But if you look at this story, folks, this is the worst thing that could have ever happened. Two-thousand federal workers are going to be furloughed, and there might be a delay in some unemployment benefits being paid. Oh my God, this is the worst thing that's ever -- who knew, folks, that one lone senator from the minority party could wreak so much damage to our economy?" Limbaugh later said, "Unemployment advocates are calling for Jim Bunning to be removed from the Baseball Hall of Fame."

Posted by: drindl | March 3, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse


" If you ever wondered what type of candidate the Tea Party movement would like to see elected to Congress, look no farther than Kentucky Sen. Jim Bunning (R), the man who is single-handedly holding up unemployment benefit extensions and health insurance coverage for hundreds of thousands of out-of-work Americans. While the rest of his party is quietly trying to ignore him, Bunning is giving Tea Party activists in Kentucky much to love.

"We're all in support of Sen. Bunning," says Wendy Caswell, the founder of the Louisville Tea Party. She says Tea Party activists believe that Bunning is being fiscally responsible, and that's a core Tea Party value. "He is kind of one of our models of a good representative of the people of Kentucky."

Both of the GOP candidates running for Bunning's seat agree, with Rand Paul even holding a rally outside Bunning's office.

I am getting the same sick feeling in my stomach about this that I got when I watched the torture "debate" unfold. This is yet another unraveling of certain pieces of the already threadbare social contract --- the reflexive moral consensus on cruelty and selfishness that we all teach our children and at least pay lip service to if not always live up to. Things like whether or not it's ok to torture --- or to let people flounder with no income at all during a serious economic crisis. You can tell that this is one of those things by the punch drunk response of so many, even some on the GOP side, who are having a hard time wrapping their minds around the idea that this could happen."

Posted by: drindl | March 3, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

do we still shoot traitors in this country? i hope so.

bring out the firing squad.

Posted by: drindl | March 3, 2010 11:12 AM | Report abuse

So refreshing to hear a reasonable voice on a Fix message board, Jaxas70!

Posted by: orgbluspider | March 3, 2010 11:12 AM | Report abuse

At any rate, my concern this morning is that so many Americans are falling for a gargantuan lie. And that lie is that "government" is the enemy.

Posted by: jaxas70 | March 3, 2010 11:00 AM

the truth is that obama is the enemy.

Posted by: doof | March 3, 2010 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Andy and leichtman, I hope you are both right. Leichtman, I still must vote in the R runoff for Lehhrman against Rick Green. You know the S.Ct. seat is likely R, and to have the choice between a failed former R state legislator who is a third rate attorney, on the one hand; and a Judge who writes scholarly treatises and is chair elect of an ABA section committee, on the other; is a no brainer for lawyers, but the public does not know. After i do my duty there I will concentrate on White from April to November.

And Sharp if KBH resigns, of course.

But Leichtman, how do you get the turnout that White would need to be competitive on election day? He really does need Houston, Austin, and Dallas mega turnouts. Don't you agree? Goive me some cheer, here.

The rest of the country does not understand that Perry has done nothing but run a crony administration and line his pockets and posture. Well, TX Rs did not understand that either, buying into the notion that Goodhair actually did something beside veto fed UI money so the state rate will at least quadruple. I think the backlash of the increased rate there and the impact of the deficit will not be felt until after the election, so it will only be known to the few of us who watch this stuff. So again, give me something to hope for.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | March 3, 2010 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Dribbl is always a very short trip from the funny farm. Will today be the day she cracks again? It thinks it has a monopoloy on ugliness and meanness on this blog. Don't dare sink to it's level. It us nasty down there.

Posted by: Moonbat | March 3, 2010 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Doofus, I presume your "spaceship" comment is meant to cast me as some sort of crazy, left wingnut. Let me reassure you--if that is at all possible--that I am nothing of the sort.

Indeed, at the age of 69--coming up Saturday--I have had a full life and carreer of service to our country. Proud Vietnam Vet serving in the old USAF 2705TH Airmunitions Wing. Served in DOD for over 30 years in many varied positions having to do with weapons system acquisition. Graduate of the Air War College. Graduate of Weber State University in Ogden with degrees in politics and economics. Graduate of the University of Utah with Masters in Economics.

I point all of this out by way of telling you all that I am not some moron who gets off by attending overheated rallies where overwrought people get crap off their chest by screaming and yelling and beating their chests while working themselves up into a purple rage.

I believe in America. I believe in a progressive, tolerant, compassionate America that partners with business and the markets to have a balanced, efficient government that tends to its major business--protecting its citizens not only from enemies abroad but also enemies within and has sensible, prudent regulations and rules that comply with the Constitutional imperatives in the Preamble.

Like a great many other Americans, I too am angered about how government is presently functioning and I too tend to blame both parties for overly partisan bickering. But I am also a realist. Rick Perry and others like him are in no way realistic. They are in fact, pandering to the absolute worst sorts of people in our society.

If you hate government the way it functions now, you have an obligation to vote for people who offer realistic solutions to the enormous problems we have. Electing people who offer up oversimplified generalities and silly, absolute nostrums about liberty and the constitution, are not going to be enough.

At any rate, my concern this morning is that so many Americans are falling for a gargantuan lie. And that lie is that "government" is the enemy. When you say that, you are in fact saying that we are the enemy. The single biggest creditor the US Government has is we the people. Most of the other debts we owe are easily manageable. But the social security, medicare and defense aspects that make up the overwhelming percentage of our debt are not. Why? Because the ideas of cutting spending in these areas and raising taxes have become politically impossible. And that is because we the people won't elect or re-elect leaders who ask us to do so.

This is true. You may feel more comfortable blaming Obama and the democrats or the GOP or the Congress or the House or government bureaucrats or whatever. But the truth is that it is we the American people who are holding up reform of our broken government. Period. End of story.

Posted by: jaxas70 | March 3, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

Mark, does it do any good to remind people that Perry knowingly executed an innocent man?

I will take that one. No it likely helps him.

Posted by: leichtman1 | March 3, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse

drindl:

I was simply asking shrink2 a question.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 3, 2010 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Did The Corner give up?

Posted by: elijah24 | March 3, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Don't worry dribbl. The commander in chief recently told us that only isolated extremists are dangerous to us. And everything meant to stop them is working just fine.

Now how about that DC corruption? How bout that deficit you were so concerned with about Bush?

Posted by: Moonbat | March 3, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse

drindl:

I was simply asking shrink2 a question.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 3, 2010 10:51 AM | Report abuse

SPECIAL TO "Jaxas70" @ 9:36 a.m.:

Well said -- just as I have been warning in this space for more than a year. Recent revelations, I fear, may cause reactionary forces to provoke a political crisis the likes of which this country has not seen in nearly four decades.

TEAM OBAMA JOB #1: RESTORE CIVIL AND HUMAN RIGHTS. END BUSH-ERA PROGRAMS OF COVERT HIGH-TECH TORTURE AND POLICE STATE VIGILANTE TERRORISM -- PROGRAMS THAT MAY TARGET POLITICAL LEADERS AS WELL AS ORDINARY CITIZENS.

CELL TOWER MICROWAVE WEAPON SYSTEM SILENTLY ATTACKS, TORTURES, IMPAIRS 'TARGETED' AMERICANS: VETERAN JOURNALIST

• Why so many cell towers saturate the American landscape -- urban and rural.

• Weapon system patents reveal silent, powerful attack system in YOUR backyard.

• American human rights atrocities under the cover of national security.

http://nowpublic.com/world/u-s-silently-tortures-americans-cell-tower-microwaves

OR: poynter.org/subject.asp?id=2 (see articles list)

NOW IT'S OBAMA'S GESTAPO USA. WHEN WILL TEAM OBAMA ACT?

• Reporter exposing gov't cell tower microwave torture held hostage to community stalking, police-protected, GPS-equipped vigilante squads that burglarize, vandalize and terrorize -- officially-enabled lawlessness that afflicts many thousands of other unconstitutionally targeted and persecuted Americans.

BUCKS COUNTY, PA- BASED MAGLOCLEN FUSION CENTER: "GROUND ZERO OF A MID-ATLANTIC STATES AMERICAN GESTAPO."

WHY WON'T THE FBI OPEN A DOJ / CIVIL RIGHTS DIVISION INVESTIGATION -- AS REPEATEDLY REQUESTED?

http://nowpublic.com/world/gestapo-usa-govt-funded-vigilante-network-terrorizes-america
OR NowPublic.com/scrivener (see "stories" list)

Posted by: scrivener50 | March 3, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Mark, does it do any good to remind people that Perry knowingly executed an innocent man?

Posted by: drindl | March 3, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse

interesting that Perry spoke last night only about the evils in D.C. What a mistake. We have real problems here in Texas with Austin and a projected $11 billion deficit, exploding property taxes, college tuitions and highs school drop outs. In all likelihood Perry will be running against D.C., White against our problems in Austin. Hutchinson's financial supporters are already switching their allegiance to our wildly popular mayor. It should be quite interesting theatre as many moderates have had enough with Perry and are ready to term limit the career politician.

Posted by: leichtman1 | March 3, 2010 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Mark,
Poling has White at 41 and Perry at 47% last week and gaining ground slowly. It is never good for an incumbent to be below 50% and as you point out you would have voted for KBH but never for Perry. I think there are a good amount of people out there like you and those folks are tired of Perry embarrasing their state.

Now Bill White has to get on TV with a very positive campaign about his accomplishments in Houston and what he will do once elected. Than he should wait for Perry to attack first. Than he can counter those ads with more positive ads while at the same time countering his punches also he should play off the fact that he is bald in his stump speaches.

White's slogan should be something like
"Texas doesn't run away from trouble, as governer Bill White will face the challenges of today and tomorrow head on."
That way he can keep reminding people of the seccession ploy by Perry and how it is a cowards way out. Plus he can project a tough and serious image at the same time.

Posted by: AndyR3 | March 3, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

jake, you are not a man.
you are a disgusting cowardly little misogynist. whatsa matter, every woman in your life dump you, little impotent one?

Posted by: drindl | March 3, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Loud and dumb has returned from the stooge graveyard to dazzle us with moronic pronouncements. I think Iggy Pop has moved on stooge.

Normally dribbl, the head stooge, would be crowing all day about the most recent crooked pol in congress. He is trying to hide from attention today, like Barry, not taking any questions.

Dribbl. Get to work. Cut and paste your usual idiocy directly from TP. Your purpose is fading.

Posted by: Moonbat | March 3, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

shrink2:

Just like rape victims should relax and let it happen, who knows they might enjoy it?

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 3, 2010 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Your health care dollars won't end up in some Saudi sovereign wealth fund called "Kingdom".

Posted by: shrink2 | March 3, 2010 10:31 AM

I'd rather my health care dollars end up with the Saudis instead of providing any care for illegals.

Posted by: doof | March 3, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

"Democrats are convinced that Perry's victory has turned Texas into a real pickup opportunity for them"

Right, after losing Virginia and New Jersey, and failing to hold on to Chappaquiddick Ted's old sentate seat, the Democrats will now amaze all by picking off Perry in Texas.

What the Las Vegas mayor said of Obama is true of whole party, "SLOW LEARNERS".

Put down the crack pipe Dems and do something about JOBS!

Posted by: Bjartur | March 3, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Between McNumbnuts, 37th, and joked, the Fix is officially a garbage dump.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | March 3, 2010 10:28 AM

Between you, the she-male, and the jackass, we officially have a three ring circus.

Posted by: doof | March 3, 2010 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Baghdad bj will be predicting victory long past the actual loss. He will cite daily Kos polls as evidence. He still thinks coakley, gore and Kerry won.

Posted by: Moonbat | March 3, 2010 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Republicans should just relax and let the health care bill pass. If we don't add to the deficit, everyone spending more on health care just means less spending on other stuff. Health care is good for people, other stuff?, well, not really.

The Health Industry Stimulus package will create many sustainable living wage jobs. Your health care dollars won't end up in some Saudi sovereign wealth fund called "Kingdom". From safety net clinics to fancy hospitals, building an excellent health care infrastructure is a good thing.
And yes, I do have a dog in the hunt.

Posted by: shrink2 | March 3, 2010 10:31 AM | Report abuse

Maybe if the pundits ever left the DC bubble they might have a different view of who belongs to this supposed 'populist' political wave -- to a large extent, violent extremists and white supremacists:

" A new report by the Southern Poverty Law Center has unearthed shocking data about the rise of militias, antigovernment groups, and other right-wing extremist groups. The report, titled “Rage on the Right,” has found that there has been an increase of 244 percent in the number of these extremist groups in 2009:

The number of extremist groups in the United States exploded in 2009 as militias and other groups steeped in wild, antigovernment conspiracy theories exploited populist anger across the country and infiltrated the mainstream, according to a report issued today by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC).

Antigovernment “Patriot” groups – militias and other extremist organizations that see the federal government as their enemy – came roaring back to life over the past year after more than a decade out of the limelight.

The SPLC documented a 244 percent increase in the number of active Patriot groups in 2009. Their numbers grew from 149 groups in 2008 to 512 groups in 2009, an astonishing addition of 363 new groups in a single year. Militias – the paramilitary arm of the Patriot movement – were a major part of the increase, growing from 42 militias in 2008 to 127 in 2009. "

Posted by: drindl | March 3, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Believe me GJonahJameson, I am aware of the internet. Are you aware that it exists by dint of huge taxpayer subsidies to the Department of Defense who wanted to connect all of its PCs in order to more efficiently facilitate rapid military communications throughout the various military theaters.

Isn't it a delicious bit of irony that all of the I HATE GOVERNMENT! flakes out there do not have the slightest inkling that they are participating in and using one of the great socialist enterprises of all time, thank you Al Gore!?

But alas, you are right. The Tea Party won't go away anytime soon. But the Tea Party isn't the problem I am talking about. The Tea Party will fizzle the minute republicans are back in power. In fact, I will predict that.

No. It is the potential for the Tea Party energies to be harnessed to something far more malevolent than the simple partisan anger over losing political power that drives most of the conservative right. The election if Rick Perry--who pandered to these more violent, extremist groups with his preposterous statements on secession--is the first sign that there are sufficient numbers of crazies out there (at least in Texas)to make an electoral difference. And trust me, these people fully expect Perry to make good.

That is what frightens me and it should frighten all of you. We are talking about our country here. This sort of talk going on down in Texas and in Kentucky and a few other states, is flat out dangerous. These people may push our government to the pint that militant action against them may indeed be necessary. And that means blood, death, civil war at least of a sort.

I cannot believe the media has not caught on to this squalid sentiment on Perry's part and how it is giving these extremist anti-American groups aid and comfort.

When this sort of things gets going folks it is no longer fun and games. People will die.

Posted by: jaxas70 | March 3, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

I see Zouk has a new alter ego. Charming.

BB

Posted by: JakeD3 | March 3, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

So it's official: Ace McNumbnuts has yet another screen name, and is allowed to post under all of them at the same time.

Between McNumbnuts, 37th, and joked, the Fix is officially a garbage dump.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | March 3, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

BWJ, I will be supporting White with time and money all the way, but he is likely to lose. Where do you east coast Ds get your insights?

Posted by: mark_in_austin | March 3, 2010 10:24 AM

from huffingtonpost. that's why they're so dumb.

Posted by: doof | March 3, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse

spoke to soon, margaret. you should know zouk will never leave this board. what else has he got?

Posted by: drindl | March 3, 2010 10:25 AM | Report abuse

BWJ, I will be supporting White with time and money all the way, but he is likely to lose. Where do you east coast Ds get your insights?

White needs GOOD turnouts in all the cities and he then must carry Dallas, Houston, and Austin by 2-1 margins.

It is JUST possible. It is not hopeless. But get 2-1 or better odds if you are betting on White.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | March 3, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

doof is sucha charming addition to the boards. It makes me miss drivl, moonbat and zouk.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | March 3, 2010 10:21 AM

don't miss them. they're staying away because you forgot your deodorant again.

Posted by: doof | March 3, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

"In recent days, Sen. Jim Bunning has been obstructing the passage of a bill that would extend unemployment benefits for nearly a million Americans, claiming that they aren’t “paid for.”

But in 2003, Bunning not only voted for an unemployment extension but also put out a glowing press release lauding the extension of unemployment benefits as “hopeful news for our most needy families in Kentucky“:

U.S. Senator Jim Bunning today announced that legislation to extend temporary unemployment benefits for an additional five months has passed the United States Congress. The legislation, which was unanimously approved yesterday by the Senate and by a vote of 416-4 today in the House, would also provide a temporary 13-week extension of unemployment benefits for all individuals who exhaust their traditional benefits before June 1, 2003. “The 108th Congress is off to a solid start,” said Bunning. “This is hopeful news for our most needy families in Kentucky. By approving this legislation we will help those folks who are currently without work continue to make ends meet until they can find new employment.” Passage of this legislation means that there will be no lapse in assistance for the nearly 10,000 Kentuckians who have filed claims so far for extended benefits. The last extension expired on December 28, 2002. President Bush is expected to sign the bill tomorrow, which means the next payment to states can still be made on Friday, January 10, as originally scheduled.

The CBO estimates that at the time, the budgetary cost of the unemployment benefit increase was $6.6 billion between 2003 and 2007. The Labor Department estimates that 4,300 Kentuckians will lose their unemployment benefits during the week of March 13 without an extension. If Bunning’s stance today is truly principled, then why didn’t he stand up to fight the unpaid-for benefits in 2003, under the Republican President Bush?"

Posted by: drindl | March 3, 2010 10:23 AM | Report abuse

With the fog of idiocy perpetrated by dribbl, Baghdad bj, Elijah, and jackarse, there will only be loony left noise on this thread until the indoor plumbing can be repaired.

Sorry about the stench.

Posted by: Moonbat | March 3, 2010 10:22 AM | Report abuse

doof is sucha charming addition to the boards. It makes me miss drivl, moonbat and zouk.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | March 3, 2010 10:21 AM | Report abuse

In Texas, a special election to win a vacated Senate seat is a free-for-all with no party primaries. The first-place finisher must receive 50 percent-plus to win outright, or face a runoff with the second-place finisher. It's possible that the runoff could match two candidates of the same party.

Also, several candidates besides Michael Williams have announced their intention to run and are actively raising money, including the ones you mentioned as potential candidates except Dewhurst.

Posted by: johnc4 | March 3, 2010 10:21 AM | Report abuse

'Cosign. The indications are plain to see, but the MSM is more interested in bloviating about fake controversies and false narratives injurious to BHO. BTW, does anyone feel that Janet Napolitano, who correctly predicted this rightwing violence, deserves an apology?'

you are talking about people who are unable to apologize, because they have no human feeling, joe. too much to expect.

Posted by: drindl | March 3, 2010 10:20 AM | Report abuse

There will be blood. Now are you prepared for that?

Posted by: jaxas70 | March 3, 2010 10:11 AM


hold on a little longer jackass. the space ship is almost there.

Posted by: doof | March 3, 2010 10:17 AM | Report abuse

If Obamacare funds abortion THEN "There will be blood."

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 3, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse

The ever mindless dribbl deploys the bush did it ignorance in a new way.

Who pays? Dribbl. What happened to the just passed Paygo.

Libs are all hypocrites. Send them to the back of their own unemployment line.

Posted by: Moonbat | March 3, 2010 10:13 AM | Report abuse

Pardon me doof but you talking about IQ is rather like Sarah Palin discussing the declining parameters of quantum red shifts affecting the telemetric instrumentality that transport discrete metrics on the relative motion of...well you get the point. Wait as minute....D'Oh!

Look. Do not attempt to grow a brain John. Just read my blog post and try not to get so erect. Here is what I am trying to convey to you pooch brains out there. You are messing with dynamite. The FBI report and the people who do the exhaustive research isn't just for fun and games. They know the extremely dangerous people that inhabit the fringes of America's political right. And right now they smell blood because they know they can harness the energy of this anger out there for their own political gain.

Now if that tiny little collection of snot in yuur head that comprises the bulk of your brain has even a scintilla of electrical energy in it to assemble a complete thought, try this: The people gaining from all of this frothy anger out there have not the slightest interest in the Constitution, America, the flag, patriotism, mom, apple pie and good old family values.

What they are interested in is destroying the American form of government and replacing it it with an authoritarian system very much like what the Nazis had in the Germany of the 1930s. And trust me, my snoozybrained friend, there will be a an equal reaction. And it won't be an equal and opposite reaction if I know how to compare Newton and the FBI.

There will be blood. Now are you prepared for that?

Posted by: jaxas70 | March 3, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse

jaxas70, having the mainstream media ignore it will not make the Tea Party crowd go away. I would tend to agree that its members would not be so dedicated to their cause were no one to give them any attention for it, but surely, you've noticed by now that mainstream media coverage is not the only way to garner attention.

You may have heard of this thing called the Internet. My understanding is that it is a series of tubes.

Posted by: GJonahJameson | March 3, 2010 10:08 AM | Report abuse

"... is Railroad Commissioner Michael Williams, the first African American to hold statewide office in Texas."

Can this be true in 2010?

Posted by: grepdashv | March 3, 2010 10:07 AM | Report abuse

I can't repeat this enough. Where was the outrage when Reagan and Bush ll managed to create 8+ TRILLION of our 9+ TRILLION national debt. You Neo Con idiots who think that cutting taxes for people who don't need it,starting 2 wars without paying for either AND cutting taxes some more doesn't EXPLODE the deficit are nuts. The CBO has said Obama's bill will SAVE 200 billion. For you Limbaugh loving morons........ and BECKER'S too,sorry,saving means it will cost less. Please continue to contribute to your favorite insurance company thieves while those of us with brains try to save some money on healthcare.

Posted by: hughsie48 | March 3, 2010 10:06 AM | Report abuse

jaxas70:

I'm just getting warmed up (wanted to make sure that Chris's evil twin RICK wasn't here first ; )

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 3, 2010 10:02 AM | Report abuse

Corner, I'm not saying Dems are blameless. Every politician has cast a vote, or made a decision worthy of regret. If they haven't, they aren't even trying to do their job. That said, the mistakes Barny Frank and Chris Dodd made contributed to the problem. They were two Dems who voted for the same legislation that nearly the entirle Republican caucus also voted for. The results of his mistakes will soon cost Dodd his seat.
You can throw out remarks like "Hillary became the darling of Wall Street - and her deciding to run for the Senate in New York must have had something to do with that." might make good rhetoric, but it is empty without any evidence or context. Saying "Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac - or the people who work there - have eye-poping records of giving campaign contributions to democrats - who for some strange reason Obama was number one on the list BEFORE he became President." is also meaningless without context. Most industries and corporations are willing to spend more money supporting a frontrunner than an underdog.
Meanwhile, President Clinton handed off the biggest budget surplus of any president since about 1775. George W. Bush handed off the biggest defficit since the same year. This isn't hard. It's Econ 101.

Posted by: elijah24 | March 3, 2010 10:01 AM | Report abuse

"Remember what the FBI report on America's more violent extremist groups is telling us. These groups are on the move. All of them from the skinheads and neonazis to the white supremacists and militia groups are growing and it is being fueled by racism and the growing awareness that the white male culture all over the world is losing its preeminent position in the political power structure.

It is all but certain that this trend in the world is like to continue owing to demographic realities. The danger lies in some unifying leader who comes along to form these dangerous groups into a coheseive political force that can overtake America's constitutional political structure and form a system more along the lines of the Nazi movement that occurred in 1930s Germany.

The failure of our national media to accurately portray what is happening in America falls along those same lines when in 1930s Germany, the media was effectively captured by National Socialists and swamped the people with propaganda.

Don't sit out there in your comfortable, massaging easy chairs watching Fox News and think that it can't happen here. It is happening here. Right now.

Posted by: jaxas70 | March 3, 2010 9:36 AM"
__________

Cosign. The indications are plain to see, but the MSM is more interested in bloviating about fake controversies and false narratives injurious to BHO. BTW, does anyone feel that Janet Napolitano, who correctly predicted this rightwing violence, deserves an apology?

Posted by: broadwayjoe | March 3, 2010 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Your're an infant jaked.

Posted by: jaxas70 | March 3, 2010 9:55 AM

"your're"
the jackass can't even spell.

Posted by: doof | March 3, 2010 9:59 AM | Report abuse

TO ALL THE DEMOCRATS


Let's have an HONEST DISCUSSION ABOUT HEALTH CARE - JUST TELL US HOW YOU ARE GOING TO PAY FOR IT - WITHOUT THE ACCOUNTING TRICKS.

Let's back out of all the accounting tricks, and you tell me how we are going to pay for the health care bill.


- You have 7 years of revenue against 10 years of benefits - that adds about 2.5 Trillion dollars.


- You have 500 Billion dollars which is coming out of Medicare - that is being spent twice.


- You have the 225 Billion "doctor fix" which is off budget.


- So you are at about 3.2 Trillion Dollars - How are YOU going to pay for it ???


AND that does not include the usual cost explosions that take place in new programs - you will probably be closer to $5 Trillion after 10 years.


HOW ARE YOU GOING TO PAY FOR THIS ???


Just tell us how you are going to pay for all of this - go ahead.


.

Posted by: 37thand0street | March 3, 2010 9:58 AM | Report abuse

NOW.

"The suffering of hundreds of thousands of unemployed Americans eased tonight as Sen. Jim Bunning (R-KY) finally stopped blocking legislation temporarily extending unemployment and COBRA benefits, which stopped on Sunday. The New York Times reports:

It came after Mr. Bunning’s fellow Republicans began to air their own concerns about how the Senate blockade had the potential to damage their political brand while also having a direct impact on their constituents.

While Democrats hailed the progress, they also said Mr. Bunning’s decision to delay the aid had caused serious disruptions in federal programs and could create bureaucratic problems as people try to reclaim their federal aid.

“Sometimes just because we have the power to do things, we ought to think twice before we use that power,” said Senator Richard J. Durbin of Illinois, the No.2 Democrat in the Senate.

Bunning had been stating that he didn’t want to extend the benefits because the weren’t “paid for,” even though, as ThinkProgress reported earlier today, he voted for an unpaid-for extension during the Bush administration. Bunning’s obstruction affected the jobs of federal transportation workers (who have been furloughed without pay for the past two days), Medicare payments to doctors, television service for rural residents, small business loans, and flood insurance. The bill is now expected to come up for a vote tonight."

Posted by: drindl | March 3, 2010 9:56 AM | Report abuse

We called it. Perry all the way. Fix coworker EJ Dionne has a great column in the Post today which argues that, based on secessionist Perry's win in Texas, the party of Lincoln (the GOP) has become the party of Jefferson Davis, the president of the Confederacy. The Perry win ensures Bill White, the former Houston mayor, will be the next Governor of Texas. Congratulations, Governor White...

It'll be interesting to see whether KBH will step aside as she had promised to do.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | March 3, 2010 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Thank you for conveying my sentiments as well to 'doof'. Actually, I'm thinking he might be zouk/moonbat/drivel. he fits his naming pattern and is just as much or more offensive.

some posters here change their names a lot to pretend they aren't on her all day long because they have nothing else to do.

Posted by: drindl | March 3, 2010 9:53 AM

we now have the jackass and the she-male on board. are you male or female today?

Posted by: doof | March 3, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse

Jaked--is that all you've got? I make a little slip because I used "Rick" Cillizza? Nothing more substantial about my main critique?

What is it with you people? Don't you have any substantial ideas? I bring up the FBI report on these extremist groups all but taking over the Tea Party gatherings, harnessing their energies to elect a secessionist in Texas and a crazy right wing birther conspiracist in Kentucky, and you come back at me with pduh, pduh, pduh--you made a boo boo, you made a boo boo!

Your're an infant jaked.

Posted by: jaxas70 | March 3, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse

when do you STFU?

Posted by: drindl | March 3, 2010 9:54 AM | Report abuse

In short, you call me "jackass" because what I am saying hits the mark and you know it, you feces wallowing Hogbaugh hineysmoocher!

Posted by: jaxas70 | March 3, 2010 9:49 AM

jackass, when you get angry your IQ goes from 10 to 11. get angry more often.

Posted by: doof | March 3, 2010 9:53 AM | Report abuse

Thank you for conveying my sentiments as well to 'doof'. Actually, I'm thinking he might be zouk/moonbat/drivel. he fits his naming pattern and is just as much or more offensive.

some posters here change their names a lot to pretend they aren't on her all day long because they have nothing else to do.

Posted by: drindl | March 3, 2010 9:53 AM | Report abuse

jaxas -- I think it's more along the lines of the rightwing upsurge ....

Posted by: drindl | March 3, 2010 9:47 AM

when do you start your copy and paste routine?

Posted by: doof | March 3, 2010 9:50 AM | Report abuse

OMG! We're all saved! Doof is on the case! Look you dweeby, Limbaugh, hiney-sucking pisant, if you were to donate your brain to science, they would return it with the message: INSUFFICIENT MASS.

I am exposing you pus for brains, whacked out, Becksucking morons for just what you are: Addled bigots with absolutely no intellectual qualification to debate anything more substantial than how to vandalize the Constitution, invent slanders about the President, wallow in the pigstink of Limbaugh's hogpen of I HOPE HE FAILS! while whacking to the blubbering fantasies and conspiracy theories of of the infant Glenn Beck.

In short, you call me "jackass" because what I am saying hits the mark and you know it, you feces wallowing Hogbaugh hineysmoocher!

Posted by: jaxas70 | March 3, 2010 9:49 AM | Report abuse

jaxas -- I think it's more along the lines of the rightwing upsurge we had during the Clinton administration. The Ruby Ridges, the Wacos, the cults, the white supremists, the kool-aid drinkers, the militia 'patriots'--all come out from under their rocks.

The wingers always go nuts when a Democrat is in power. and that Obama is black will make it worse this time... and the R party has lost its moral bearings altogether. Timothy McVeigh stopped the arc of that trajectory then, but it that happened today, I would guess a lot of Rs would react the way they did to the terrorist in Austin -- shrug and say everybody hates to pay taxes.

Posted by: drindl | March 3, 2010 9:47 AM | Report abuse

We have a 3 Trillion Dollar - basically unfunded program - which the democrats are attempting to FORCE A FINANCIAL CRISIS ONTO A FUTURE CONGRESS IN ORDER TO RAISE THE TAXES TO PAY FOR HEALTH CARE.


When the American People realize fully what the finances are, Obama's name and legacy will be synonymous with overspending and financial nightmares.


To spend and never know how it will be payed for - to obama.


To get stuck with a bill (like at a restaurant) - to get obamaed.


To try to get a friend to pay his share of the bill at a restaurant - Man, you are not going to obama me, are you ?


To force a program or a rule on an unwilling person - to ram an obama.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 3, 2010 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Who is RICK Cillizza?!

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 3, 2010 9:44 AM | Report abuse

DDAWD


Go ahead - the point is the wars are going to END - they are finite.


They are NOT Enron-like government programs with NO END - and the costs of which will continue to spiral.


And we were attacked before the Afghan war.

AND if Bill Clinton had done something about Bil Laden, THOSE TWO WARS MAY HAVE BEEN AVOIDED.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 3, 2010 9:42 AM | Report abuse

Don't sit out there in your comfortable, massaging easy chairs watching Fox News and think that it can't happen here. It is happening here. Right now.

Posted by: jaxas70 | March 3, 2010 9:36 AM

don't worry, jackass, the space ship will land in front of your trailer and take you away long before anything you talk about happens.

Posted by: doof | March 3, 2010 9:42 AM | Report abuse

In any other time, I will vote for Bill White but not this year. I can not stand any more of Democrats in DC( particularly Pelosi and Reid, Barney and Todd).They are like ugly American to me. I want them to know the hard working middle class American are fed up with them therefore no Democrat for me and No to Hutchison either because she is supported by Cheney.
Rick Perry has the gut to fight the Feds.

Posted by: gwng99 | March 3, 2010 9:41 AM | Report abuse

jaxas, Cilizza is 'center-right' like most of his comrades at the Post and much of DC cocktail party culture.

Posted by: drindl | March 3, 2010 9:40 AM | Report abuse

jaxas70


Obama is the danger to America - he is trying to Reconcile the country into financial ruin.


You really have to get your facts straight.

What else are you afraid of ? I think you should start to worry about your own shadow.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 3, 2010 9:40 AM | Report abuse

jaxas70


Rick Perry has been Governor for 9 years - Texas is in better finacial shape than most states.

So what part of "goon" applies to that ???

AND he has great hair.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 3, 2010 9:37 AM | Report abuse

Bush spent trillions on a war in Iraq which cost the lives of more than 4000 Americans, and didn't make us any safer.
Obama spent trillions to stem the loss of jobs, caused by the Bush recession; and will spend billions on health-care, which, provided it isn't repealed, will save the lives of millions. That isn't about "Bush did it too". If you can't see that, I must reiderate my case about willed-ignorance. Why is it ok to spend trillions of dollars we don't have to kill people, but not to save them?

Posted by: elijah24 | March 3, 2010 9:37 AM | Report abuse

Remember what the FBI report on America's more violent extremist groups is telling us. These groups are on the move. All of them from the skinheads and neonazis to the white supremacists and militia groups are growing and it is being fueled by racism and the growing awareness that the white male culture all over the world is losing its preeminent position in the political power structure.

It is all but certain that this trend in the world is like to continue owing to demographic realities. The danger lies in some unifying leader who comes along to form these dangerous groups into a coheseive political force that can overtake America's constitutional political structure and form a system more along the lines of the Nazi movement that occurred in 1930s Germany.

The failure of our national media to accurately portray what is happening in America falls along those same lines when in 1930s Germany, the media was effectively captured by National Socialists and swamped the people with propaganda.

Don't sit out there in your comfortable, massaging easy chairs watching Fox News and think that it can't happen here. It is happening here. Right now.

Posted by: jaxas70 | March 3, 2010 9:36 AM | Report abuse

"We are talking about TRILLIONS of dollars - and the wars are not even close to be correct comparisons. Creating a massive program, which will spiral out of control in costs - and which will never end is totally different."

Of course not. The wars cost trillions of dollars. The HCR bill is saving billions of dollars.

Not even close.

If you want to disagree, go and find me some evidence. I'll go dig up the CBO .pdfs to support my argument.

Posted by: DDAWD | March 3, 2010 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Am I the only one out here who gets the distinct impression that Chris Cillizza is emotionally invested in a totally negative narrative on Obama and the democrats and is almost giddy every time one of these right wing goons wins an election.

Look. I am a realist.

Posted by: jaxas70 | March 3, 2010 9:23 AM

the answer to your question is yes, you're the only one.

you say you're a realist. I believe that's true because you admitted to being a jackass last week and said you were proud of it. Only a realist could admit to that.

Posted by: doof | March 3, 2010 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Reconciliation - was CREATED TO REDUCE THE DEFICIT - NOT EXPLODE IT.

Obama is really perverting the reconciliation process.

Policy is different from budget - if Obama and his people are going to go down this path, it is green-lighting all sorts of things down the road that the democrats might not like.

Why doesn't Obama remember the debate on the judicial nominations?

Obama is a slobby, undisciplined, horrible leader who really has no idea what he is talking about.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 3, 2010 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Let me add to the KBH timing variable that she would likely do what Dewhurst asked, not what RP asked, if she were going to resign. Mike Williams cannot beat Sharp in a special election. Dewhurst can. Polling has Sharp out front, but led by "no opinion". I am a big Sharp fan and want whatever works to his advantage in a special.
Wild card: Medina may run in the special. Why not?

As CC suggests, please consider the real possibility that KBH will change her mind, again.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | March 3, 2010 9:34 AM | Report abuse

elijah24


I responded to you - and outlined quickly the democrats' involvement with the financial crisis - which I think you were referring to.

You really should respond to that statement.

And it really looks bad to accuse someone of something - and be guilty yourself of exactly that in the same statement.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 3, 2010 9:30 AM | Report abuse

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/03/AR2010030300949.html?hpid=topnews

Charles Rangel to quit key tax post

He's leaving his seat as chair of Ways and Means.

Posted by: DDAWD | March 3, 2010 9:29 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: 37thand0street

"You have to be a complete moron, which Im sre you are."

I find that it helps when you are calling someone a moron to demonstrate basic grammar skills. A six year old can spell "I'm" and "sure" correctly. However, since a 6 year old has a better grasp of economics and history than you appear to, this may be consistent.

Posted by: cometboy | March 3, 2010 9:28 AM | Report abuse

Elijah and bsimon1


What we get from the democrats is not actually a statement which says "this is good policy" or "this is good for the country"

Instead, the democrats say "well, Bush did it too"

You all sound like a bunch of children.

We are talking about TRILLIONS of dollars - and the wars are not even close to be correct comparisons. Creating a massive program, which will spiral out of control in costs - and which will never end is totally different.

A war is suppose to end - and we are getting out - the costs will not spiral and not go on forever.

The IRRESPONSIBLE DEMOCRATS don't even want to talk about the costs - the numbers don't even come out of their mouths. This program is NOT paid for. It is the ENRON OF GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS. It is time to start thinking about that.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 3, 2010 9:27 AM | Report abuse

mil1, I think only 12% of registered voters turned out; see below.

For graphics, see:

http://www.texastribune.org/texas-election-results/texas-2010-election-primary/?page=3#related_stories

Total turnout looks to have been about 12%.

RP must be favored in the Fall. One creationist on the SBoEd went down, but in my SBoEd district the non-creationist lost. The rabid creationist and the closet creationist [who might be lying about that to somebody - campaigns on "family values" without ever mentioning creationism] are in the runoff.

Judge races were a mess - in S.Ct. Pl 3 one of the two real judges made the runoff against one of the four real bozos.

I was reporting R side because down ticket only Rs will be elected in November, on a 12% turnout. The most competent and honest Rs were unopposed for Land Commish and Comptroller.

On the D side, Hank beat Kinky for Ag Commish.

Will KBH resign? When? I think she does so next ten days or not at all. For the Rs to replace Dewhurst on the LG line for November with someone credible Rs needs at least this much lead time for Dewhurst to quit that race to run for Senate in a special election. KBH did her party no favor equivocating, and she lost her early double digit lead for the same reason.

Andy, White has a chance, but only with more than double the turnout in the Fall from this primary. So I will support him enthusiastically but if I ever get carried away with my enthusiasm, remind me that I think he will lose, and the R grip in TX will tighten.

The Rs hold the TX House by two seats and the Ds were surging, but the Rs may hold an iron ten seat margin after the election. They would probably replace the moderate R Speaker elected by a D-R coalition, with a right winger.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | March 3, 2010 9:26 AM | Report abuse

Mil1, the last time both the Democrats and Republicans had multiway primaries was in 1994. Ann Richards had 800k votes while George Bush had 520k votes. Total Dem primary votes almost doubled R primary votes. However, Bush ended up beating Richards by a good margin. No other TX election featured primaries in both parties since then before 2010.

So what's your evidence for what you are saying?

Posted by: DDAWD | March 3, 2010 9:25 AM | Report abuse

Corner, in sociology, they teach that to avoid facts which conflict with ones own beliefs of idiology is called "willed-ignorance". If you really dont know what I'm talking about it's because when facts are presented to you with supporting evidence, you call them lies. And when lies are presented to you with no evidence at all, you call them facts. You have done this for so long now, that you probably don't even know the difference anymore. If you don't see the humor, feel free to ignore my comments, just like you ignore the facts.

Posted by: elijah24 | March 3, 2010 9:24 AM | Report abuse

bsimon1 -- all those unfunded mandates (don't forget No Child Left A Dime) were just fine with the Republicans, including Bunning.

I hear Bunning has asked the FAA to monitor his office windows. For the past week he has foolishly frustrated and angered a large number of US citizens. In February, the GOP on the Hill demonstrated a surprising acceptance for the actions of a frustrated and angry citizen.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | March 3, 2010 9:23 AM | Report abuse

Am I the only one out here who gets the distinct impression that Chris Cillizza is emotionally invested in a totally negative narrative on Obama and the democrats and is almost giddy every time one of these right wing goons wins an election.

Look. I am a realist. And my realist sense tells me that Cillizza is like so many of these emotionally overwrought voters out there who have gotten caught up in a sort of mass hysteria. And an integral part of this hysteria is driven by an intense dislike on the part of the right wing fringe of Barack Obama not because of anything he has done or not done but rather, simply because of the fact that he is there in the Oval Office.

The other part of this is that the independent bloc of voters that have deserted Obama are, well, pretty stupid and gullible. They are a fickle lot under the best of circumstances and really are probably the least reliable voters for any particular ideology or set of principles. But, in this case, at this point in America's political history, I believe they are about to make one of the greatest mistakes a voting electorate has ever mad: The elevation and political legitimization of a very dangerous and violent assortment of crazies and oddballs on the right that Perry appeals to.

I believe Rick Cillizza and other trivia-soaked media personalities would do well to wake up and realize just what a monster they are helping to revive. It is the same moster that devoured much of the world from 1933 to 1945.

I'm not kidding folks. These basterds are playing for keeps.

Posted by: jaxas70 | March 3, 2010 9:23 AM | Report abuse

I don't know if White will win, probably not. I'm just curious if he has a chance.

Posted by: DDAWD | March 3, 2010 9:18 AM

He has as much chance as lincoln does in arkansas. Both are losers.

Posted by: doof | March 3, 2010 9:22 AM | Report abuse

We have a 3 Trillion Dollar - basically unfunded program - which the democrats are attempting to FORCE A FINANCIAL CRISIS ONTO A FUTURE CONGRESS IN ORDER TO RAISE THE TAXES TO PAY FOR HEALTH CARE.


When the American People realize fully what the finances are, Obama's name and legacy will be synonymous with overspending and financial nightmares.


To spend and never know how it will be payed for - to obama.


To get stuck with a bill (like at a restaurant) - to get obamaed.


To try to get a friend to pay his share of the bill at a restaurant - Man, you are not going to obama me, are you ?


To force a program or a rule on an unwilling person - to ram an obama.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 3, 2010 9:19 AM | Report abuse

Does anyone know anything about White's history in terms of political positions? I don't know White that well, but Houston is relatively liberal for Texas. It's no Austin, but it is an area that was only about 50% for Bush in 2004. It also has a good sized minority population. Heck, they are the first major city to elect an open lesbian as mayor.

I don't know if White will win, probably not. I'm just curious if he has a chance.

Posted by: DDAWD | March 3, 2010 9:18 AM | Report abuse

bsimon1

Your logic seems to say, hey, you maxed out one credit card, it is OK to max out eight more.

The Iraq and Afghan wars had BIPARTISAN support, which in case you don't know, means SIGNIFICANT VOTES FROM BOTH PARTIES.

You have to be a complete moron, which Im sre you are.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 3, 2010 9:18 AM | Report abuse

Ron Paul with 80% of the vote. Amazing.
Hook em horns!

Meanwhile, I am lovin' the Great American Xmas Eve Health Care Industry Stimulus Bill more and more. Now, thanks to the Republicans, we get even more spending on Medicaid and millions to battle malpractice suits too. More tax breaks for medical savings accounts is good for health care spending, but of course, not for the deficit.

If we do this, it will turn out to be one of the most massive realignments of economic priorities in the history of the country, akin to the move away from family farms to the cities, just much faster. Creating and consuming health care R us. Amazing politics.


Posted by: shrink2 | March 3, 2010 9:17 AM | Report abuse

Mil1,
In 2008 8 million people voted in Texas, and in 2006 it was 4.5 million. So basically the 700,000 that voted for Perry..

I would rethink your grand plans for Perry's inaugaration if I were you.

Posted by: AndyR3 | March 3, 2010 8:01 AM


here he goes with his stupid numbers and predictions again. we need more democrats like this guy. The unemployment numbers come out tomorrow. give us your predictions for it and make a fool of yourself now.

Posted by: doof | March 3, 2010 9:15 AM | Report abuse

elijah24

I am not exactly sure what you are talking about -


However Bill Clinton appointed a bunch of people to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac who stayed on way past Bill Clinton - was Harold Raines one of them?

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac - or the people who work there - have eye-poping records of giving campaign contributions to democrats - who for some strange reason Obama was number one on the list BEFORE he became President.

Barney Frank is knee deep in the Wall Street scandal, as is Chris Dodd.


Hillary became the darling of Wall Street - and her deciding to run for the Senate in New York must have had something to do with that.

Elijah, your arrogance simply does not measure up to the facts.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 3, 2010 9:15 AM | Report abuse

Since when did a Senator from South Carolina get to pick the new Senator from Texas, and when there is no vacancy in the Texas delegation?
DeMint takes presumption to new levels.


Posted by: margaretmeyers | March 3, 2010 9:13 AM | Report abuse

mil1,
Extrapolating November turnout from a primary today is a mistake. Everybody in Texas knew who that White would win the Democratic primary. To put it mildly, there was no reason for Texas Democrats to go to the polls (except in areas with local competitive primaries). ALL of the competitive action was on the GOP side between three candidates. You can make a better case that the GOP primary represents close to the total of November voters than you can the Democratic primary voters.

Posted by: ElrodinTennessee | March 3, 2010 9:10 AM | Report abuse

"There is an irony which must be appreciated, in the fact that the corner is accusing Dems of "forcing a financial crisis". "


No doubt. It has apparently forgotten about the unfunded Medicare Part D, the unfunded wars in Iraq & Afghanistan, and the significant tax cuts that did not include spending cuts.


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Posted by: bsimon1 | March 3, 2010 9:08 AM | Report abuse

Bill Halter will just do more damage to Lincoln. Lincoln will win the primary with a lot more political wounds. She'll then go on to lose in the general election against the republicans. The democrats are in self destruct mode.

Posted by: doof | March 3, 2010 9:06 AM | Report abuse

We have a 3 Trillion Dollar - basically unfunded program - which the democrats are attempting to FORCE A FINANCIAL CRISIS ONTO A FUTURE CONGRESS IN ORDER TO RAISE THE TAXES TO PAY FOR HEALTH CARE.


When the American People realize fully what the finances are, Obama's name and legacy will be synonymous with overspending and financial nightmares.


To spend and never know how it will be payed for - to obama.


To get stuck with a bill (like at a restaurant) - to get obamaed.


To try to get a friend to pay his share of the bill at a restaurant - Man, you are not going to obama me, are you ?


To force a program or a rule on an unwilling person - to ram an obama.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 3, 2010 8:54 AM | Report abuse

There is an irony which must be appreciated, in the fact that the corner is accusing Dems of "forcing a financial crisis". Thanks for starting my day with a smile.
I hope Hutchinson doesn't resign. I also hope she runs and wins in 2012. Her voice is needed in her party, and in the Senate as a whole.

Posted by: elijah24 | March 3, 2010 8:51 AM | Report abuse

We have a 3 Trillion Dollar - basically unfunded program - which the democrats are attempting to FORCE A FINANCIAL CRISIS ONTO A FUTURE CONGRESS IN ORDER TO RAISE THE TAXES TO PAY FOR HEALTH CARE.


When the American People realize fully what the finances are, Obama's name and legacy will be synonymous with overspending and financial nightmares.


To spend and never know how it will be payed for - to obama.


To get stuck with a bill (like at a restaurant) - to get obamaed.


To try to get a friend to pay his share of the bill at a restaurant - Man, you are not going to obama me, are you ?


To force a program or a rule on an unwilling person - to ram an obama.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 3, 2010 8:44 AM | Report abuse

mil1 writes
"I'm no friend of Perry. I voted for Medina."

What's the chance of Medina getting into the race as an independent? Are there other potential 3rd party candidates? mark_in_austin has posted here that White is the Ds best chance, particularly against Perry. I'm looking for his update on that matchup. Seems to me that White's best strategy would be to encourage an independent candidate from the tea side to eat into Perry's base.

Posted by: bsimon1 | March 3, 2010 8:42 AM | Report abuse

Fine katem1

Let's back out of all the accounting tricks, and you tell me how we are going to pay for the health care bill.

You have 7 years of revenue against 10 years of benefits - that adds about 2.5 Trillion dollars.

You have 500 Billion dollars which is coming out of Medicare - that is being spent twice.

You have the 225 Billion "doctor fix" which is off budget.

So you are at about 3.2 Trillion Dollars - How are YOU going to pay for it ???

AND that does not include the usual cost explosions that take place in new programs - you will probably be closer to $5 Trillion after 10 years.

HOW ARE YOU GOING TO PAY FOR THIS ???


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 3, 2010 8:35 AM | Report abuse

Correction - Perry became governor in late 2000 when Bush resigned to become president.

Posted by: bradcpa | March 3, 2010 8:35 AM | Report abuse

AndyR3: I'm no friend of Perry. I voted for Medina. However 17 percent of electorate voted and 1.4 million voted Republican versus 590,000 Democrat. Just saying--if the electorate doesn't turn out (and I don't mean 2008 that had Federal election hooked to it; look at the last statewide election, it was very disappointing--16 percent is the official turn out); if the electorate doesn't get out there and express their Democrat opinion, Perry will be elected. Right now having looked at both White and Perry, I still lean toward Perry (WHO I HATE!)

Posted by: mil1 | March 3, 2010 8:33 AM | Report abuse

We have a 3 Trillion Dollar - basically unfunded program - which the democrats are attempting to FORCE A FINANCIAL CRISIS ONTO A FUTURE CONGRESS IN ORDER TO RAISE THE TAXES TO PAY FOR HEALTH CARE.


When the American People realize fully what the finances are, Obama's name and legacy will be synonymous with overspending and financial nightmares.

To spend and never know how it will be payed for - to obama.

To get stuck with a bill (like at a restaurant) - to get obamaed.

To try to get a friend to pay his share of the bill at a restaurant - Man, you are not going to obama me, are you ?

To force a program or a rule on an unwilling person - to ram an obama.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 3, 2010 8:24 AM | Report abuse

AndyR3:

At least we agree re: DailyKos ; )

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 3, 2010 8:22 AM | Report abuse

definition of tedium and irresponsible, irrational statements-- the corner wins hands down everyday.
You're so predictable in your unhingedness, and offer no reality based info, just talking points and insults. *YAWN*

Posted by: katem1 | March 3, 2010 8:15 AM | Report abuse

Synonymous.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 3, 2010 8:07 AM | Report abuse

Obama is like a bad reality show which refuses to get cancelled. Will Obama EVER switch to concentrating on the economy ???

Seriously, Obama is giving ANOTHER HEALTH CARE SPEECH TODAY.

When will this stop ??? When will Obama "get it" ??? Is there ONE PERSON IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY who hasn't made up their mind on health care ???

The country has decided it does not want Obama's health care bill - and to persist is only going to increase the anger in this country.


Go to the dictionary look up "beating a dead horse" - AND OBAMA'S PICTURE IS THERE.


NOW We are hearing that some democrats are talking about voting before the next break - because the Congressmen do not want to go home to face the voters at meetings with another health care vote pending - WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT PICTURE - The Congressmen should be willing to stand by their vote - do it right in front of the voters - right before election day - All this thinking about how to ISOLATE CONGRESS FROM THEIR OWN VOTES - Let's be serious it is so pathetic.

Read this blog - the democrats have ceased to even defend the bill - they either repeat some lame talking points or launch into name-calling.

Or we hear stories - half of which have been found to be untrue when investigated -

We do not have real postings from real people defending the program. Saying, yes, a massive new government program would be good for the country.

We don't even have AN HONEST STATEMENT FROM ANY DEMOCRAT ON THE COST OF THE HEALTH CARE PROGRAM.


We have a 3 Trillion Dollar - basically unfunded program - which the democrats are attempting to FORCE A FINANCIAL CRISIS ONTO A FUTURE CONGRESS IN ORDER TO RAISE THE TAXES TO PAY FOR HEALTH CARE.

When the American People realize fully what the finances are, Obama's name and legacy will be synonomous with overspending and financial nightmares.

To spend and never know how it will be payed for - to obama.


To get stuck with a bill - to get obamaed.

To force a program or a rule on an unwilling person - to ram an obama

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Posted by: 37thand0street | March 3, 2010 8:06 AM | Report abuse

Mil1,
In 2008 8 million people voted in Texas, and in 2006 it was 4.5 million. So basically the 700,000 that voted for Perry doesn't even represent 10% of the people who may vote in November. Also I think White may pull a lot of those Hutchinson voters as well as the majority of the middle of the road independents in the Lone Star state.

I would rethink your grand plans for Perry's inaugaration if I were you.

Posted by: AndyR3 | March 3, 2010 8:01 AM | Report abuse

mark_in_austin:

Sorry about last night (but you don't really think that Bill White can win, do you?).

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 3, 2010 7:55 AM | Report abuse

"[Williams] has won the endorsement of emerging conservative kingpin Sen. Jim DeMint"

Here's to hoping Williams pulls a Munson.

Posted by: AndyR3 | March 3, 2010 7:52 AM | Report abuse

Perry's "outlandish" statements are what helped him win 51 percent of the Republican vote with 17 percent of the electorate voting. (They don't sound outlandish to those of us in Texas).

White doesn't have a chance. In Texas primaries Republican's must vote in Republican primaries and Democrats in Democrat primaries, independents must choose ahead of time one or the other. So the primary is a preview of our future in November.

745,000(appx) voted for Perry and although White had 76 percent of the Democrat vote that was only about 515,000 people....few if any Republicans will vote for White over Perry and Shami, the other Democrat on the primary ticket, had only about 88,000 votes... so as you see the Primary says Perry in November UNLESS more than 17 percent of the electorate decides to turn out....but even then it tends not to be Democrats. (by the way, Hutchinson's and Medina's votes would total about 720,000--very doubtful any of these would go to White).

Our last statewide election had only 16 percent of the electorate show up and Republicans outnumbered Democrats.

And Williams would be a wonderfully conservative pick by Perry to fill Hutchinson's seat if she steps aside. Texas conservatism isn't racist.

Posted by: mil1 | March 3, 2010 7:48 AM | Report abuse

#1 Perry's victory will be short-lived I think. As CC points out there are a lot or people who in general would vote for Republicans in Texas, but who can't stand Perry. Bill White has shown that he can run a city extremely well, since most of the job growth in Texas has been in Houston. If I were Bill White I would start running commercials now to start pull in the Hutchinson voters (ie suburban women, GOP intellectual class, etc). I really do think that with Perry having one eye on the national stage and now walking into the roll as a Far-right conservative that White can be the moderate and win with 55% of the vote. Its also interesting that Medina's support didn't materialize at all. I guess all that talk of tea party momentum was a bit overblown.

#3-I want to point out that Blanche Lincoln opposed the EPA regualting greenhouse gases because she wants the Senate to pass a comprehensive climate reform package and the EPA's move would have made that very difficult. The EPA also doesn't want the changes either, they just used the move as a ploy to force the issue in the Congress. This will however put pressure on Lincoln to push Lindsey Graham and John Kerry to move forward faster with the comprehensive climate bill so that she can undercut Halter. Also if I were her I would get Obama down to Arkansas too and have him do some apperances with her in places with large Black populations like Little Rock. If she can keep the black vote than she will smoke Halter no matter how much money the DailyKos raises for him.

Posted by: AndyR3 | March 3, 2010 7:47 AM | Report abuse

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