Network News

X My Profile
View More Activity

White House Cheat Sheet: Of Tax Day and Tea Parties



It's tea party day! (Photo courtesy of the Library of Congress)

Conservatives across the country are hoping to grab the national spotlight away from President Obama for at least a day by holding tea parties across the country today to signal their displeasure with the government spending put in place in the early days of the Obama administration.

The tea parties, which grew from an on-air tirade from CNBC's Rick Santelli earlier this year, are being cast by national Republicans as the first signs of a rebirth of a conservative movement that has been sorely lacking in recent elections.

"This outpouring of citizen energy is like Perot activists in 1992," said former House Speaker Newt Gingrich who will speak at a tea party in New York City today. "It is not automatically pro-Republican but it is intensely anti leftwing Democrat."

National Republican Congressional Committee executive director Guy Harrison sent a message to the organization's email list on Tuesday urging attendance at a tea party: "Thousands of Americans will gather to protest oppressive government taxation, and stand as one for fiscal sanity at tea parties across the nation," stated the missive.

Scores of Republican incumbents and GOP candidates for federal office -- including potential 2012 presidential candidates like Gingrich and South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford -- are planning to attend the events.

"These tea parties demonstrate an important lesson for the GOP: namely how a good message coupled with savvy use of free technology empowers groups to self organize, and make an impact," said Phil Musser, former executive director at the Republican Governors Association and now a GOP consultant. "It's a good lesson that those running for elective office should seek to emulate."

Democrats have aggressively worked to point out the less rosy side of these tea parties, insisting they are being organized from Washington by "corporate lobbyists who want more of the same failed policies that got us here," according to a release from Democratic Congressional Committee Chairman Chris Van Hollen's (Md.) office. (Several D.C.-based groups -- including former congressman Dick Armey's Freedomworks are involved in organizing the parties.)

The liberal blogosphere has been particularly up in arms over the tea party plans. Of the gatherings, Jane Hamsher, the founder of the popular Firedoglake blog, wrote:

Teabaggers are having a hard time coming to terms with the fact that "grassroots" demonstrations aren't orchestrated by corporate lobbyists. Understandable -- if you didn't have any experience organizing a demonstration that didn't have millions in free PR from Fox News and well-funded GOP fat cats providing a national infrastructure, you wouldn't know the difference.

So, which is it? Are these tea parties the first signs of life from the Republican base? Or a trumped-up attempt by Washington insiders to suggest there is significant opposition to Obama's spending plans?

How the events play out will be a telling barometer. If these tea parties go off without a hitch and are well-attended (and, as importantly, well covered by the media) then Republicans have something on which to build. If the coverage shows a serious of sparsely attended events or covers controversial statements made by attendees, the tea parties might backfire.

What To Watch For:

Wednesday's Fix Picks: T-minus two days before these picks move full-time to the left rail of Fix homepage. You have been warned.

1. Dan Balz on Professor Obama's economics lesson.
2. New York Gov. David Paterson (D) to introduce same-sex marriage bill.
3. Pay-Rod pleads not guilty -- as only he can.
4. Kinky Friedman for governor (again).
5. LiLo: Single and ready to mingle.

Murphy By 600?: National Democrats are circulating updated projections on the special election in New York's 20th district that show venture capitalist Scott Murphy (D) emerging victorious by roughly 600 votes in his race against state Assemblyman Jim Tedisco (R). Current tabulations from the New York Board of Elections put Murphy's edge at 56 votes -- 77,972 to 77,916 -- although those numbers are sure to fluctuate in the coming days. There are five counties that have finished counting all of their domestic absentee ballots and five more counties where counting is ongoing. Counting of military and overseas ballots began across all counties on Tuesday.

RGA Hits Corzine on Tax Day: The Republican Governors Association has launched a new website that hits New Jersey Gov. Jon Corzine as an inveterate tax raiser. The site features an appropriately dastardly picture of the Democratic incumbent and asserts that Corzine's proposed budget would raise taxes on Garden Staters by $1 billion. The site also urges Web surfers -- are they even called that anymore? -- to sign an online petition to "say no to the Corzine tax hikes." The RGA has made no secret that they believe Corzine can be beaten by former U.S. Attorney Chris Christie this fall despite the long "Lucy, Charlie Brown and the football" relationship Republicans have had with the state in recent elections. While we tend to discount the efficacy of Web-based efforts like these, in a state like New Jersey in which television advertising is incredibly costly and relatively inefficient, it's possible gimmicky things like this can work. The RGA also just dropped several hundred thousand pieces of direct mail in the state -- a sign of their financial commitment to the race.

Happy Shad Planking: If you like bony fish and politics (who doesn't?), then you had better make your way to Wakefield, Va. today for the 61st Annual Shad Planking. Three of the four candidates for governor this fall -- state Attorney General Bob McDonnell (R), former state Del. Brian Moran (D) and former Democratic National Committee Chairman Terry McAuliffe -- will eat the shad (or at least pretend to) and address the crowd. The 2006 Shad Planking is one of our fondest memories in covering politics. If you can, go -- it's less than a three-hour drive from D.C.

Texas Senate Numbers: New polling in the Texas Senate race suggest that none of the candidates for the potential vacancy caused by Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison's (R) 2010 run for governor are well-known to Lone Star State voters -- creating a wide-open race if KBH abandons her seat. The survey, which was conducted by Jef Pollock, a Democratic pollster, shows Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst (R) and former state Comptroller John Sharp (D) as the two best-known (and most well-liked) candidates in the field. Fifty-five percent were familiar with Dewhurst and he scored a net favorable rating of 25 points while 41 percent were familiar with Sharp and he netted a 23 point favorable score. Pollock would not say who he conducted the survey for (odd) but reading the memo suggests he is working for Sharp. Why? Because several times the candidacy of Houston Mayor Bill White, the other Democrat likely to run, is pooh-poohed. "Bill White appears to be a one-market candidate, drawing support almost exclusively from the Houston area," writes Pollock at one point. The timing of the special is still up in the air with speculation on Hutchison's resignation now centering on late fall or early winter, according to those familiar with her thinking.

Torsella's Cash -- Will It Be Enough?: Former National Constitution Center head Joe Torsella, the lone announced Democrat in the Pennsylvania Senate race, raised $600,000 between mid-February and the end of March and ended the first reporting period with $584,000 on hand. The central question is whether that cash total is enough to discourage other serious Democrats from getting into the race with Sen. Arlen Specter looking increasingly vulnerable to a Republican primary challenge from former Rep. Pat Toomey. Word in the Keystone State is that Rep. Joe Sestak (D) has put on a major fundraising push in the quarter as he re-thinks the possibility of a Senate run. (Sestak started the year in a strong cash position with nearly $3 million in the bank.) Rep. Allyson Schwartz, who closed 2008 with just short of $2 million on hand, is reportedly re-examining the race as well. State Rep. Josh Shapiro is also mentioned in the Democratic mix. Our guess? Torsella's money doesn't clear the primary for him and either Sestak, Schwartz or both ultimately jump in, sensing a rare opportunity to win a Senate seat.

The Best iPhone Apps: The Fix (and Mrs. Fix) are proud owners of new iPhones and we have been soliciting Fixistas -- via Twitter -- for their recommendations of the best apps for the device. Rather than hog all of those suggestions, we thought we would share them -- three at a time -- via the Cheat Sheet. Today's featured apps: Twitterfon, Urban Spoon and Pandora. Enjoy!

Say What?: "I don't know the exact movements of the dog." -- White House press secretary Robert Gibbs, woefully ignorant on the arrival of Bo, the new Obama dog.

By Chris Cillizza  |  April 15, 2009; 6:00 AM ET
Categories:  Morning Fix  
Save & Share:  Send E-mail   Facebook   Twitter   Digg   Yahoo Buzz   Del.icio.us   StumbleUpon   Technorati   Google Buzz   Previous: Coleman, Franken Feud Continues
Next: Jeb Bush's Policy Campaign

Comments

Is Kurtz talking about Americans, or American taxpayers? Data released in 2001 for example, showed that 96% of Federal income taxes were paid by the top 50% of wage earners (individuals or couples filing jointly who earned $26,000 and up in 1999).

So 50% (of wage earners) paid about 4% of all Federal taxes - so yeah, I'm sure those Americans are *very* happy.

"Incidentally, according to Howard Kurtz's column, Americans are happier with the amount of taxes they pay than in over 50 years. (about a 50-50 split between happy and unhappy)"

Posted by: lightk1 | April 16, 2009 9:16 AM | Report abuse

Dana Milbank seesm to confirm what everyone suspected: these "tea parties" were an unholy joint venture between the hate groups and Fox News:

"Those messages might explain why Fox News, though actively promoting the "tea party" protests for tax day, tried to argue that it was not behind yesterday's coast-to-coast events. But Fox News analyst Tobin Smith, who took the stage in Lafayette Square yesterday, evidently didn't get the memo. "On behalf of Fox News Channel," he told more than 500 mud-spattered demonstrators, "I want to say: Welcome to the Comedy Channel of America, Washington, D.C.

"After a few preliminaries, he went into a Fox News commercial for anchor Glenn Beck. "Anybody watching Glenn?" he asked to cheers. "That was a shameless plug, wasn't it? Glenn says hello as well. He's out at another tea party." Indeed he was, as were Sean Hannity and Neil Cavuto."

Full story:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/15/AR2009041503177.html?hpid=opinionsbox1

From this point on, Fox News cannot lay claim to being a legitimate "fair and balanced" mainstream news source.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | April 16, 2009 8:54 AM | Report abuse

Miss-Hogynis

It might intrest you to know that I fought in those wars also. I recently retired from the Navy as a Hospital Corpsman. I find it ironic that homeland security now sees me, a man who for 23 years protected and defended the constitution of the United States of America .... as a man of suspision. What a crock.

I am personally offended by our new head of home land security.
We did leave the grounds in better shape than we found it. After all, we were there to fix things, not tear them down.

Posted by: markandbeth | April 15, 2009 11:35 PM | Report abuse

The corporate networks proclaim that the corporate tea demonstrations have been an unqualified success. They thank all those useful idiots for acting in the best interests of corporate America at the expense of their own.

In Gold We Trust, Screw everything else.

Posted by: seemstome | April 15, 2009 10:23 PM | Report abuse

markandbeth wrote, in part, of their experience at a teabagger rally, "No one asked me for anything except *to help make sure the grounds were cleaner than we found them*."

That's a value I love, and one which George W. Bush failed at miserably.

Cutting taxes, and making especially large tax cuts for the rich, while waging two wars, isn't exactly what I'd call "making sure the grounds were cleaner than he found them". As we're now discovering.

This idea that you can wage wars without the average citizen making a sacrifice, I would argue, is a very destructive one. Everyone's very warlike in their imagination - until there's a price to be paid, if not in blood, in treasure.

The USA's experience in fighting two World Wars abroad, and not having seen war here since Lincoln's war, undoubtedly feeds this neurosis.

Posted by: Miss_Hogynist | April 15, 2009 9:47 PM | Report abuse

I just got back from 18:00 T.E.A. party in Rockwall Texas. There were just over 1000 people there. It was a very peacefull showing of people who are tired of the taxing and spending. No one asked me for anything except to help make sure the grounds were cleaner than we found them.

I know most of you on this board laugh at all this ... I dont care. The politicians in DC are not laughting. They are not going to change .... but they will be gone in 2010 ... and they see this as a notice that the silent majority has awoken.

Good night all. Y'all can go back to your hatefest now.

Mark

Posted by: markandbeth | April 15, 2009 9:39 PM | Report abuse

waitingforgodot wrote:

Oh yeah, marknelso, these teabagging parties are a prelude to something, all right -- namely, more lame PR stunts designed to hook angry rubes, and put them to work defending the profits of plutocrats.

And as for the "class warfare" speculation -- you wingnuts kept crying about how bad "class warfare" was back when the evil liberals were pointing out the obscene favoristism shown to the wealthy by Bush and his henchmen (you know, way back in 2008?) But now that it's all you "Little Guys" standing up for your rich puppetmasters, "class warfare" is something to look forward to, eh?

"Let the games begin!", indeed. You children just keep playing your little games, while we adults will keep cleaning up your messes.

__________________________

As a hungry rube I only have one thing to say: Burp!

Posted by: marknelso | April 15, 2009 8:35 PM | Report abuse

EarlC perspicaciously wrote, in part, "The Republicans are moving dangerously close to inciting revolution if they do not win."

This is true.

It is also true that Al Gore wasn't doing the domestic tranquility any favors when he suggested that not counting ballots botched by voters in Broward was an attempt by Republicans to disenfranchise black voters.

We seem now to be committed to a death spiral of mutual vituperation which will finally strip the USA of whatever of value has so far persisted in our political system.

So few can see fault on both sides.

Something is badly wrong, and it's not a partisan wrong, it's a wrong rooted in the current way Americans go about with big elbows and no apologies, inside and outside the country.

Those who decided that what was lacking in human nature was self-esteem, and retooled our educational system and the values which orient our child-raising within families in light of that "insight", did us no favors.

For a Democrat to think that the current crisis stems from eight years of Bush makes me laugh - bitterly, but it's a laugh. Our current mess goes back to Reagan's frontal assault on the New Deal, which was abetted by Bill Clinton's trying to be the Democratic Eisenhower. Didn't Clinton say "the era of big government is over" (in addition to being the only politician to say "I love you, Mom" in his nomination acceptance speech)?

Well lo and behold, the era of big government isn't over, and Reaganism should have been challenged persistently from the start.

I guess when your colleges and universities are more busy making sure that mothers and fathers across the land are gratified by the attainment of offspring diplomas than they are busy making students ask hard questions and learn history, this is what you get.

And what we've got isn't pretty.

Posted by: Miss_Hogynist | April 15, 2009 8:24 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe, nice catch on sherardg's post, which I hadn't read. I, too, thought that what I saw of the teabaggers resembled a Palin rally.

If this is the new face of the Republican party, it's worse than the old face, and less likely to garner an electoral majority - more likely, though, to incite troubled souls like Pittsburgh's unrepentant Poplawski.

On a related note, the right's indignant reaction to Napolitano's warning about the dangers of people like Poplawski and McVeigh seems to me further evidence that they've developed a political tin ear which will not serve them well amidst an electorate which hasn't forgotten Oklahoma City.

Posted by: Miss_Hogynist | April 15, 2009 7:57 PM
___________
Miss_H, it is hard to believe this "base" is driving the GOP.

Where's Colin Luther Powell or Hagel?--they've been driven to the sideline. BTW, I don't think the extremists at these events (as well as Hannity, Beck, and the others who are sending them clear dog whistles) are looking to get their way through the ballot box. They have a much different, and much more disturbing agenda.

Tea parties indeed...It's like going back to the 50s (I have a list of 17 card carrying socialists in the House of Representatives). Gov. Rick Perry wants Texas to secede to assert its sovereignty and states rights (see HuffPo today)--where have we heard that before?

Posted by: broadwayjoe | April 15, 2009 8:12 PM | Report abuse

Let the Republicans have their day of fun. Afterall, they have no clue what it means to get down to work and prepare honest solutions to the big problems that they helped create for the last 8 years. These same Republicans have managed to give us a senate race in Minnesota that will have no end. Apparently, the New York congressional race will drag out also. So much for American style democracy. We are watching a country with over 200 years of voting experience realize that it still cannot run a close election where the votes can be counted in an expeditious and precise manner. So much for money in politics. There is way too much money. Too much money invested for anyone to lose. We should all dread the future of politics in the U.S. if this is what it is boiling down to. This is not about socialism, communism, federalism, or captialism. It is simply about majority rule at the ballot box. The Republicans are moving dangerously close to inciting revolution if they do not win. This is very dangerous. Seventy million voters decided that Obama, a bi-racial man, was their choice for President, despite the more than 10% of the electorate that thought he was a Muslim and non-native born. Anyone who believes that Obama is a Muslim and not born in the United States should be put in time-out. Afterall, McCain was not born in the United States, but the Dems made no big noise about it. Also, McCain canned his first wife to marry his socialite wife after he returned from Vietnam - morals that the moral majority must really approve.

Hypocrisy knows no one better than those out today with their banners. Eight years of Republican deficits - no noise. Seven years of a war of choice - no noise. Eight years to run the U.S. economy into the ditch - no noise. Bring Obama, the fire battalian chief, and watch them stand in front of their homes to protect them from the flames that are in the next block and refuse to move. Perhaps the Repubicans will be brave enough to burn up with their wealth while the firefighters are kept at bay.

Posted by: EarlC | April 15, 2009 8:02 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe, nice catch on sherardg's post, which I hadn't read. I, too, thought that what I saw of the teabaggers resembled a Palin rally.

If this is the new face of the Republican party, it's worse than the old face, and less likely to garner an electoral majority - more likely, though, to incite troubled souls like Pittsburgh's unrepentant Poplawski.

On a related note, the right's indignant reaction to Napolitano's warning about the dangers of people like Poplawski and McVeigh seems to me further evidence that they've developed a political tin ear which will not serve them well amidst an electorate which hasn't forgotten Oklahoma City.

Posted by: Miss_Hogynist | April 15, 2009 7:57 PM | Report abuse

sherardg's April 15, 2009 2:16 PM post below is a must-read.

The faces of the tea partiers are the same ones we've seen at the Phalin hate rallies, supremacist and skin head "events", and "gun shows" (you know, for "sportsmen" and Second Amendment scholars). They clearly have substantial corporate sponsorship (see, e.g., Fox News) and are obviously up to something. Let's hope DHS's Janet Napolitano stays on top of it.
___________
BTW, I am not buying into Scribbler50's explanation of why Tony Almeida went bad last Monday on "24."

Posted by: broadwayjoe | April 15, 2009 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Lovely, the Republicans organize stunts to try to perpetuate the failures that have ruined the economy, the military, social justice, the infrastructure, the environment, all in the name of benefitting the few

Neo-con ideologues-- just shut up and go to play in your rooms. The adults are trying to clean up the titanic mess you left.

Posted by: omarsidd | April 15, 2009 7:09 PM | Report abuse

king_of_zouk wrote, "Drivl is off her meds again."

When that's all zouk's got in an entire Fix thread, empiricists must conclude that Limbaugh Apostles have nothing to crow about.

By the way, I happily don't live in Oregon - which for decades now has been controlled by yuppies fleeing the devastation they wrought in California - or I might be off *my* meds, considering a levy taking effect today raising the state tax on beer by 1,900 per cent. That would come on top of a recent fed tax increase of 2,800 per cent on roll your own cigarette tobacco, and taken together might seriously cramp my lifestyle.

Both taxes enacted by Democrats, I might add, to my sorrow, having no wish to align myself with teabaggers.

I do wish Democrats would get over this need so powerfully at work within their little hearts to play Cotton Mather to the witchcraft of what they deem to be people's vices.

Posted by: Miss_Hogynist | April 15, 2009 6:34 PM | Report abuse

Here in Philadelphia the news outlets have boldly declared that the Tea Party at Love Park attracted "many" people.

ouch

Posted by: margaretmeyers | April 15, 2009 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Drivl is off her meds again.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | April 15, 2009 6:10 PM | Report abuse

If WaPo's reports at the moment are accurate, these bozos turned out fewer than a thousand people in the nation's capital.

Even considering the corpulence of the average conservative, I'd guess their DC contingent collectively weighed less than the miasmic gasses emitted by the rotund one in the course of getting them off their couches and into the streets.

Posted by: Miss_Hogynist | April 15, 2009 5:59 PM | Report abuse

VTDuffman: You have an interesting definition of "wealthy". I would have to say that according to that definition, I was wealthy in 2008. You'll be happy to know that I won't be wealthy in 2009, nor do I think in the forseeable future.

Also, did I say you had no right to judge me? You have every right to judge whomever you want - just get all the facts beforehand. That's what I object to. I'm not offended; just disappointed that opinions are formed without genuine or honest thought, or factual information. Have a nice tax day.

"my definition of wealthy definitely includes 'people who paid more in taxes than a good chunk of the people make in a year'. And why would you presume to take away my right to judge you? I can judge you all I want, you have no right not to be judged, you have no right not to be offended."

Posted by: lightk1 | April 15, 2009 5:52 PM | Report abuse

theamazingjex:
that's okay if they polarize...'cause they are already planning to rig the next election.
what did i hear about Jeb Bush today??

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | April 15, 2009 5:46 PM | Report abuse

drindl:
see....goes to show ya.
the general public is not thinking....

throw ANYTHING over the fence at the White House and this will happen.
as it should...

and darn it, my taxpayer money went for those resources that had to be "put in action" because some dumb person didn't think.....

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | April 15, 2009 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Basically, it seems like the GOP is trying to further polarize the electorate. I guess they sticking with what they're good at. But I don't see how that can possibly lead to electoral success.

Posted by: theamazingjex | April 15, 2009 5:32 PM | Report abuse

These guys are really so dumb it hurts:

'Outside the White House, protesters threw an apparent box of tea bags over the fence. U.S. Secret Service officers cleared Pennsylvania Avenue and Lafayette Park near the compound and sent in a robot to inspect the suspicious package while the White House went on lockdown.

Solid thinking, teabaggers! Seriously. That is almost a Darwin Awards entry- “Watch me throw this package over the fence while snipers sit on the roof of the White House!”

Posted by: drindl | April 15, 2009 5:22 PM | Report abuse

The rightwing pundit Ambinder sez...

"Predictably, Marc Ambinder is promoting the wonders of tea-bagging:

'But the tea parties really are something. Their origins—organic, programmatic, accidental or otherwise—don’t matter much anymore. If—and we’ll have to see the numbers at the end of the day—100,000 Americans show up to protest their taxes, the onus to dismiss them as a nascent political force shifts to the Democrats."

A few questions… Why are Democrats obligated to dismiss this as a political force? Isn’t that what elections, which once had consequences, are about? And if these are such a political force, shouldn’t that force manifest itself more powerfully in political polls?

Finally, why do we have to pay attention to 100K tea-baggers when 10 million anti-Iraq war protesters were considered a focus group?--and of course, I have to say from what I've seen that a couple of thousand malcontents total will be all that shows up at these stunts, if that, despite all the money that Fox and Repug politiicans put into staging them.

Posted by: drindl | April 15, 2009 5:20 PM | Report abuse

((hearty smiles)))

for sure..
dumping those teabags is a really really big littering fine......


Posted by: TheBabeNemo | April 15, 2009 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Obama said he was the only thing between the bankers and the pitchforks.

Posted by: newbeeboy | April 15, 2009 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Oh yeah, marknelso, these teabagging parties are a prelude to something, all right -- namely, more lame PR stunts designed to hook angry rubes, and put them to work defending the profits of plutocrats.

And as for the "class warfare" speculation -- you wingnuts kept crying about how bad "class warfare" was back when the evil liberals were pointing out the obscene favoristism shown to the wealthy by Bush and his henchmen (you know, way back in 2008?) But now that it's all you "Little Guys" standing up for your rich puppetmasters, "class warfare" is something to look forward to, eh?

"Let the games begin!", indeed. You children just keep playing your little games, while we adults will keep cleaning up your messes.

Posted by: WaitingForGodot | April 15, 2009 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Let's all join Larry Craig and demand the right to drop our tea bags wherever and whenever we want (without fear of big government requiring us to get a permit).

Posted by: shrink2 | April 15, 2009 4:42 PM | Report abuse

These tea parties are a prelude of things to come. Fox is on to something while the rest of the media is still stuck in their puppy love phase with Obama. We are probably looking at a class warfare version of the 1960's. Let the games begin!

Posted by: marknelso | April 15, 2009 4:30 PM | Report abuse

More evidence of creeping socialism, now even a tea bagging party requires a permit.

What to do with a million Republican tea bags...hmmm...what to do.

Posted by: shrink2 | April 15, 2009 4:27 PM | Report abuse

RobT:
i actually boycotted paying my taxes in 2002 (after 9-11)....
it took 2 years and they got me.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | April 15, 2009 4:16 PM | Report abuse

i have it on good authority that Native Americans don't like tea.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | April 15, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse


line item veto would help.....

HEY CHRIS
your link for the same sex bill of Patterson's doesn't work.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | April 15, 2009 4:09 PM | Report abuse

"Just because a President is elected does not give him unlimited "power and it has long been demonstrated that the power to spend and tax is the power to enslave."

So I presume what you geniuses want is anarchy?

Posted by: drindl | April 15, 2009 3:40 PM | Report abuse

I haven't had this much laughter in my life in years. What a hoot. I want to thank all the "tea baggers" for a joyful day of frivolity!
I would point out though that unlike our modern day "revolutionaries" the Indians actually did something like sneaking aboard a ship to confiscate the tea in the first place - but I suppose if you are a Fox fan than a good PR gimmick is far better.
I seriously wonder that people can be so self serving as to consider this an historical moment. I mean to listen Sean and Rush you would think they just landed a jet safely without injuries in the Hudson or something.
Phony protests by phony or hugely mislead but honorable people is actually sort of indicative of our current society to my way of thinking.
Excuse me now, I must go back to the 21st century version of the moon landing or civil rights act of times gone by.....

Posted by: RetCombatVet | April 15, 2009 3:39 PM | Report abuse

"The tea parties are a reminder that government BY the people and not the other way around is what it truly means to be American."

What they are a reminder of is that Fox News can fool some of the people all of the time.

Posted by: drindl | April 15, 2009 3:38 PM | Report abuse

"The tea parties are a reminder that government BY the people and not the other way around is what it truly means to be American."

These teabaggings are a reminder of nothing more than how ignorant and easily manilpulated your average american is.

Posted by: VTDuffman | April 15, 2009 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Our government continues to grow, in alarming ways, beyond the consent of the governed.

Just because a President is elected does not give him unlimited power and it has long been demonstrated that the power to spend and tax is the power to enslave.

Our Declaration of Independence states that "whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends...it is their right (the people's right), it is their duty, to throw off such government." Thomas Jefferson stated that there should be a revolution every generation.

Of course in our day this is true as well, because the policies of the utopian-vision-set (including the current president) always result in slavery of the individual to the government.

The media thinks it's fashionable to use the government as the engine of social change, but throughout history this has proven to be sheer folly, and has led to socialism, statism, and even communism.

America is only the land of the free inasmuch as we vigilantly protect those freedoms.

The tea parties are a reminder that government BY the people and not the other way around is what it truly means to be American.

Posted by: FreedomFirst2 | April 15, 2009 3:31 PM | Report abuse

tallertapas wrote:
And how can anybody take them serious when they werent doing this UNDER BUSH.
He grew the govt quicker and faster than any president ever. NO TEABAGS?
He took away most of the bill of rights. NO TEABAGS?
WHERE THE F WERE YOU THE PAST 8 YEARS TEABAGGERS? Oh yeh, you were defending Bush.
-----
Well done, my dear. Let us not forget that it was the prior occupant of the White House who established the Office of Faith-Based Programs and other wasteful, redundant, and/or out-and-out unconstitutional government bloat.

As well, recall that it was Newt Gingrich who had the nerve to say, to a libertarian convention audience no less, that maybe it was time, in the face of the global "War on Terror," to rethink the First Amendment. The quote from Gingrich in Chris' column today is a good sign, but by no means should anyone conflate real conservativism with the GOP any longer. Those of you who want the government OUT of your pocketbook AND your suitcase, your gun store AND your library and Web site, among other insidious places, should consider a third choice. Go to http://www.lp.org for details.

PS to ignoranceisbliss: you’ll get more people to agree with you if you don’t call them names.

Posted by: bucinka8 | April 15, 2009 3:31 PM | Report abuse

'As part of the network’s day-long promotion of the anti-Obama tea parties, Fox News’ Gretchen Carlson interviewed three tea party organizers on Fox and Friends this morning. In an attempt to push back against criticism that corporate lobbyists were helping to orchestrate the so-called grassroots movement, Carlson asked Kellen Guida, the organizer of the New York City tea party, to answer the claim that the protests are “a right-wing conspiracy. “All you can do is laugh to that,” replied Guida.

But Carlson and Guida’s defense was undermined by the on-screen chyron that flashed while Carlson asked her question, which directed viewers interested in the Bergen County, NJ tea party to the website of Newt Gingrich’s corporate-funded think tank, American Solutions for Winning the Future:.

Gingrich’s organization is distributing a “Toolkit” full of tea party talking points and has been an official “partner” in the tea party effort since at least March. Gingrich himself will be speaking at the New York City tea party, of which Guida is a co-organizer.'

TOOLS is about right. The teabaggers are the tools and pawns of global corporations.

Posted by: drindl | April 15, 2009 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Just like most of Obama's cabinet, I don't think I should have to pay my taxes.

Posted by: RobT1 | April 15, 2009 3:03 PM | Report abuse

"All you know is that I paid $35K. You have no idea what my circumstances are, yet you are quick to pass judgement. What is your definition of wealthy?"

I make $89k a year and payed $14k in taxes. I have a great life, a lot of disposable income, and two homes. You payed more than *twice* what I did...my definition of wealthy definitely includes "people who paid more in taxes than a good chunk of the people make in a year."

And why would you presume to take away my right to judge you? I can judge you all I want, you have no right not to be judged, you have no right not to be offended.

Get over yourself, Richie.

Posted by: VTDuffman | April 15, 2009 3:00 PM | Report abuse

"But a funny thing happened en route to a visually pleasing Tax Day protest. The National Park Service said the tea party protesters didn't have the proper permit to dump their bags.

"We have a million tea bags here, and we don't have a place to put them because it's not on our permit," said Rebecca Wales, lead organizer of D.C. Tea Party.

A local think tank, the Competitive Enterprise Institute, said it would allow the dumping of the tea bags in its 12th floor conference room instead. Not quite the same impact, though.'

Posted by: drindl | April 15, 2009 2:51 PM | Report abuse

For what it's worth, you guys should check out the Grover Norquist Chat, it's pretty funny.

Posted by: VTDuffman | April 15, 2009 2:47 PM | Report abuse

VTDuffman: My point exactly. All you know is that I paid $35K. You have no idea what my circumstances are, yet you are quick to pass judgement. What is your definition of wealthy?


Posted by: lightk1 | April 15, 2009 2:43 PM | Report abuse

"So let me get this straight... Because I paid over $35,000 in taxes means I'm a right-wing jerk with no right to voice my opinion? I am not wealthy by any means."

You have every right to voice your opinion. But, if you paid $35k in taxes this year, you are *by all means* wealthy, or have a severely warped sense of what "wealthy" means.

Posted by: VTDuffman | April 15, 2009 2:36 PM | Report abuse


"It took JUST TWO WEEKS for the pelos-hussein regime to become the most TAX CORRUPT GOVERNMENT IN HISTORY."

I have to say that even after all this time it is shocking to me how incredibly ignorant and stupid these people are. The mind reels.

"Tucker Carlson's suggestion on how to show support for tea parties: "You can hang [a teabag] from your mirror, too, like fuzzy dice"

About 200 people gathered at Center City's Love Park for a midday "tea party" to protest excessive government spending.

The rain-soaked rally was one of dozens being held throughout the country. Protesters held "Don't Tread on Me" flags, banners and signs - and lots of umbrellas - as the Pledge of Allegiance annd the "Star Spangled Banner" boomed over loudspeakers.

"Our revolution is not an armed conflict," declared passionate, bow-tied Jesse Civello, 16, a Cheltenham High School student who addressed the crowd.

He was followed by financial author Paul Karcher, who got cheers from the soggy crowd by saying, "I guess I'm someone who could be called a clinger. I cling to my guns and my religion!"

Nearly all of the 20 or more hand-lettered signs had a different message. Among them:

-- "Even God Only Requires 10 Percent."

-- "It's the Tenth Amendment, Stupid."

-- "You Most Likely Don't Know What Socialism Is."

-- "Three Months to Destroy What We've Had for 233 Years."

"I got some strong feelings in the way that government has gone too far," said Dennis Stanton, a maker of "truck wash systems" from Huntington Valley."

it's so dorky it's too sad to be funny.

Posted by: drindl | April 15, 2009 2:36 PM | Report abuse

let me repeat...
HR1 (public law 111-5) - The American Reinvestment and Recovery Act of the Obama Administration
is NOT TARP 2.

It is NOT Economic Stabilization Act of 2008, part 2.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | April 15, 2009 2:34 PM | Report abuse

what about carpetbaggers?

scarlett hated those guys

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | April 15, 2009 2:31 PM | Report abuse

So let me get this straight... Because I paid over $35,000 in taxes means I'm a right-wing jerk with no right to voice my opinion? I am not wealthy by any means. I've worked for over 30 years and am frugal and responsible with just about every dollar that I earn. For me, it's not about Obama vs Bush, Democrat vs Republican, Liberal vs Conservative. I just think TARP/I (Bush) and TARP/II (Obama) are WRONG!! Have any of you actually read any part of either one of these bills? Do you think any regular business would stay in business very long if they threw together a spending plan like TARP?? It's sickening.

Posted by: lightk1 | April 15, 2009 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Its not a TEA PARTY, its a KKK Rally hijacked by FOX and folks like Sean Hannity. Yesterday (4/14/09), the Washington Times broke a story about a Department of Homeland Security report that warns of a rise in "right-wing extremist activity." Instead of investigating the report and its implications, Sean Hannity, who has a history of cozying up to a white supremacist - exactly the kind of extremist the report focused on - used it as an excuse to launch the same kind of inflammatory rhetoric DHS was concerned about.The report warns: "The current economic and political climate has some similarities to the 1990s when rightwing extremism experienced a resurgence fueled largely by an economic recession, criticism about the outsourcing of jobs, and the perceived threat to U.S. power and sovereignty by other foreign powers." On the next page, the report finds, "The historical election of an African American president and the prospect of policy changes are proving to be a driving force for rightwing extremist recruitment and radicalization."
The white supremacist, a man named Hal Turner in 2005, sat before his computer at his suburban home in North Bergen, New Jersey, posting bomb-making tips on his website, hailing the firebombing of an apartment containing "Savage N’s" and calling for the murder of immigrants. "When enough illegal aliens get killed they will stop coming to the country!" Turner wrote. Turner was once a prominent activist in New Jersey's Republican Party. To area conservatives, he was best known by his moniker for call-ins to the Sean Hannity Show, "Hal from North Bergen." For years, Hannity offered his top-rated radio show as a regular forum for Turner's occasionally racist, always over-the-top rants. Hannity also chatted with him off-air, allegedly offering encouragement to Turner as he struggled to overcome a cocaine habit and homosexual leanings. Turner has boasted that Hannity once invited Turner and his son on to the set of Fox News's Hannity and Colmes. Today, Turner lurks on the fringes of the far right, spouting hate-laced tirades on his webcast radio show. Hannity, meanwhile, remains mum about his former alliance with the neo-Nazi, homing in instead on the supposed racism of black and Latino
Democrats.http://www.thenation.com/doc/20050620/Blumenthal

Posted by: sherardg | April 15, 2009 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Incidentally, according to Howard Kurtz's column, Americans are happier with the amount of taxes they pay than in over 50 years. (about a 50-50 split between happy and unhappy)

Posted by: DDAWD | April 15, 2009 2:11 PM | Report abuse

It's too bad the Washington Post didn't give as much coverage to the anti-Iraq War protests as they're giving to this parcel of partisan posturing.

Posted by: seldoc1 | April 15, 2009 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Teabagger has to become synonymous with Republican. It will bring joy to my life.

Posted by: caribis | April 15, 2009 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Sorry velo, Anderson Cooper beat you to it - and he is hardly anyone's idea of a conservative. Just a typical liberal.

Posted by: VirginiaConservative | April 15, 2009 2:03 PM | Report abuse

. teabagger

A conservative republican who protests against income taxes by dipping their nutsacks into each other's mouths.

Larry Craig will be the National Host of the Tea Bagging Parties today. The hottest men's airport restrooms will be the site for the best Fox News Teabag Parties today.

Posted by: VeloStrummer | April 15, 2009 1:19 PM | Report abuse
-------------
STOP IT! My gut is hurting from laughing!

Posted by: hayden1 | April 15, 2009 1:46 PM | Report abuse

"Live Fox News Coverage.

i think i'm going to lose my lunch.

Posted by: drindl | April 15, 2009 1:19 PM | Report abuse
-----------------
Sorry drindl. That was too gross for lunch time humor.

Posted by: hayden1 | April 15, 2009 1:42 PM | Report abuse

The marxist drug addict's loony-left liberal economic plan (aka "The Road to Hell"):

SPEND, SPEND, SPEND. SPEND, SPEND, SPEND, SPEND, SPEND, SPEND, SPEND, SPEND --- ON BONUSES, BAILOUTS, PORK AND SOCIALIST WELFARE
then
TAX, TAX, TAX, TAX, TAX, TAX, TAX, TAX, TAX, TAX, TAX, TAX, TAX, TAX, TAX, TAX, TAX, TAX, TAX -- THE HARD-WORKING, RESPONSIBLE AMERICAN CITIZENS

As plagiarist-joe biden said: "Raising taxes is patriotic"

D-crats love to tax you to death, then tax your death, while wasting your tax dollars on bonuses, bailouts, pork and socialist welfare. But, like loony-left liberal d-crat TAX CHEATS geithner, rangle, olbermann, daschle, killifer, solis, kirk, sebelius and millions more, they hate to pay taxes, and they'll cheat the government out of every penny they can.

It took JUST TWO WEEKS for the pelos-hussein regime to become the most TAX CORRUPT GOVERNMENT IN HISTORY.

So, if you don't want to pay for this loony-left liberal d-crat pork and social-welfare spending, here's the obvious solution:

Pretend you have NO INTEGRITY, NO ETHICS, NO CONSCIENCE and NO BRAINS and are a loony-left liberal d-crat (i.e., a TAX CHEAT) and then you, too, can "geithner" your taxes and won't have to pay a penny for this d-crat waste of taxpayer money.

Posted by: LoonyLeft | April 15, 2009 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Cillizza: "The liberal blogosphere has been particularly up in arms over the tea party plans."

up in arms: extremely upset; indignant

So, Chris, hate to nitpick, but we're NOT "up in arms." We're laughing our asses off.

Posted by: merelymyopinion | April 15, 2009 1:37 PM | Report abuse

", and millions like me are going to be gathered today to say"

Millions?

If you hurry up and join the 75 other patriots in Lafayette Square right now, you only have 999,924 more to go!

Posted by: VTDuffman | April 15, 2009 1:36 PM | Report abuse

And the best part of this whole farce? How utterly devoid of irony these people are. Beyond clueless. It is laughable as hell how much they Just. Don't. Get It.

Teabag away, you witless loons! Your rich manipulators will thank you -- just as soon as THEY stop laughing at you.....

Posted by: WaitingForGodot | April 15, 2009 1:36 PM | Report abuse


Tax Rebellion of the Wealthy Today
As President Obama has clearly stated 95% of Americans are receiving a TAX CUT, the other 5% (known as Tea Baggers) are going to see their taxes increase. The same 5% who received Bush's 1.2 Trillion Tax cuts in 2003 and 2004. Imagine the Tories and British throwing tea in Boston harbor and you get the idea of what is happening today. Godspeed President Obama.

Posted by: logcabin1836 | April 15, 2009 1:33 PM | Report abuse


Tax Rebellion of the Wealthy Today
As President Obama has clearly stated 95% of Americans are receiving a TAX CUT, the other 5% (known as Tea Baggers) are going to see their taxes increase. The same 5% who received Bush's 1.2 Trillion Tax cuts in 2003 and 2004. Image the Tories and British throwing tea in Boston harbor and you get the image of what is happening today. Godspeed President Obama.

Posted by: logcabin1836 | April 15, 2009 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Did you say T-baggers or D-baggers? I get them confused. Tax Rebellion of the Rich and Privledged Today....the headlines should read.

Posted by: logcabin1836 | April 15, 2009 1:30 PM | Report abuse

@John1263 - If you read your Democractic Party Manual, you would know that you were supposed to keep this a secret. Remember that premature disclosure of the Final Solution to the Neocon Question is a Level II offense that may require you to be interned in one of Obama's secret re-education camps.

Please keep the Final Solution a secret until the secret handling and processing facilities have all been built and paid for with the stimulus money.

Posted by: VeloStrummer | April 15, 2009 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Today on CNN, Paul Begala fatuously proclaimed April 15 as "patriots" day when all patriots pay up.

On its face it is too funny considering how many leftists refuse to pay their taxes and flat out feel its for the little people - but then again, maybe Begala hit the nail on the head.

Who would confuse any of the long line of leftists caught avoiding taxes for patriots?

Oh, and to comment on this post, it is our RIGHT to protest, lefties - not just yours. You may not like it, anymore than you like paying your taxes - but its a fact.

Just like its our right to own guns.

Scary, huh?

Posted by: VirginiaConservative | April 15, 2009 1:29 PM | Report abuse

I was opposed to the firse 700 billion dollars under President Bush and the democrat congress and I wrote and called my senators and representative and President Bush and told him. I was opposed the the second 700 billion under President Obama and the democrat congress and did the same. I am opposed to the rush to socialize medicine and to nationalize banks and to take millions upon millions through cap and trade. I am opposed to taking away the vote from workers through the employee free trade bill which violated 3 amendments to our constitution. So this is why I am going to the tea party. To show my support for the smaller government that the U.S. Constitution lays out.

You call me "idiot", "moron" , and worse but I am doing this because it is my right under the first amendment to do so. I am not a drone. I am doing this because Barac Obama does not believe in our Constitution and he has said so during his bid for President. When he call our constitution a "Charter of negative rights" ... that is when I knew he should not be our President.
Well, now he is ... and he is trying to change our country from a representive republic into a socialist nation. I, and millions like me are going to be gathered today to say ... we do not want that. That is all. No revolt ... just a notice that we are awake. That we will be voting in 2010.

Posted by: markandbeth | April 15, 2009 1:29 PM | Report abuse

If I don't stop spewing coffee at the jokes here I am going to wreck another keyboard.

Republicans used to scare me. Starting wars they can't stop, torturing people, Dick Cheney reporting that firing his automatic weapons as his favorite way to unwind...

Now, now? They are irrelevant and harmless and funny.

The disturbing part is number of people who voted Republican all those years. How could people vote directly against their own interests time after time and never learn?

Posted by: shrink2 | April 15, 2009 1:29 PM | Report abuse


Tax Rebellion of the Wealthy Today
As President Obama has clearly stated 95% of Americans are receiving a TAX CUT, the other 5% (known as Tea Baggers) are going to see their taxes increase. The same 5% who received Bush's 1.2 Trillion Tax cuts in 2003 and 2004. Image the Tories and British throwing tea in Boston harbor and you get the image of what is happening today. Godspeed President Obama.

Posted by: logcabin1836 | April 15, 2009 1:28 PM | Report abuse


yep, i believe i read something somewhere that you need a permit to conduct a public assembly.
was that the bill of rights i read it?

let's all go to skokie illinois and ask about it.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | April 15, 2009 1:22 PM | Report abuse

3. teabagger

A conservative republican who protests against income taxes by dipping their nutsacks into each other's mouths.

Larry Craig will be the National Host of the Tea Bagging Parties today. The hottest men's airport restrooms will be the site for the best Fox News Teabag Parties today.

Posted by: VeloStrummer | April 15, 2009 1:19 PM | Report abuse

"Live Fox News Coverage.

Going on live in Atlanta......Newt Gengrich is tea bagging Michelle Malkin."

i think i'm going to lose my lunch.

Posted by: drindl | April 15, 2009 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Soros a Marxist? Wouldn't that leave him broke? George Soros has been a major factor in promoting free and democratic elections in more than 60 countries, including the US. Despite republicon efforts to undermine democracy there are still many of us who think ours is a great country and that free and fair elections are desirable.

So, is Soros a communist? A fascist? A rich dude with a conscience?

All that aside we all know that president Obama is a secret Muslim terrorist Kenyan Indonesian sleeper agent socialist communist fascist al qaeda operative who is going to turn the WH into a mosque and start governing by fatwah by taking away your guns and forcing you into a same sex marriage using your own increased taxes to pay for a gay atheist polygamist trasngendered abortion performing caterer. ACORN is full of them. I saw it on a web site.

Posted by: John1263 | April 15, 2009 1:17 PM | Report abuse

The phony 'grassroots' in Lafayette Park...

'The protest organizers were struggling to get the event together. They had originally planned to unload a rented truck filled with a million tea bags into the park, but were stopped by officials because they didn’t have a permit. A woman in charge of the protest announced that the right-wing Competitive Enterprise Institute had generously agreed to display the tea bags at its headquarters a few blocks away. She also said that there were originally supposed to be two stages with events, but the metropolitan police had blocked them from putting a stage on the sidewalk. A woman standing next to me leaned over and said, “That’s big government for you!”

Almost everyone with whom we talked had heard about the protests through Fox News including Glenn Beck’s 912 Project. A few young men had learned about them through Facebook as well.

Posted by: drindl | April 15, 2009 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Live Fox News Coverage.

Going on live in Atlanta......Newt Gengrich is tea bagging Michelle Malkin.

Posted by: hayden1 | April 15, 2009 1:14 PM | Report abuse

freedom 5 wrote:

I'm still wondering when it became unpatriotic and un-American to pay taxes? Under which republican President did this occur?

________________

So I guess the %40 of people (soon to be %50 under Obama) who don't pay any Federal taxes are unpatriotic. Leave the old unpatriotic canard to the Republicans - they are much better at using it then you are.

Posted by: marknelso | April 15, 2009 1:11 PM | Report abuse

This cuts across party lines and demographic divides. It's not about Republican or Democrat, its about citizens who believe America can only survive if we protect the principles of liberty from a federal government that is out of control and must be reformed now. And that's a real message of hope,"

Recognize that from one of the few teabagging posters? typical fox viewer parroting almost verbatim what he was tolkd he beleived today by his lords and masters on fox. Only fox is taking this seriously because it is a wholly owned and paid for fox event. A publicity stunt for the propaganda network. Funny stuff. An exercize in using rubes like little puppets.

Posted by: John1263 | April 15, 2009 1:09 PM | Report abuse

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/04/15/anti-tax-tea-party-protests-expected/

Read this. They are trying to make this sound like a massiv e outcry - but read the numbers -- a few here, a few there, and that after weeks of round the clock fox/radio push by the teabaggers.

It is typical fox that they are trying to make a story about covering this nonevent by the handful of people so stupid that they are protesting having their taxes lowered. Teabag away. sean and rush await your shriveled saggy tea bag.

Posted by: John1263 | April 15, 2009 1:07 PM | Report abuse

'NBC's Pete Williams was just interviewed on MSNBC about a new Dept. of Homeland Security report about radical right groups trying to recruit military veterans. And there was a funny moment when Williams and interviewer Contessa Brewer tried to go out of their way to explain that this wasn't the about political radical right, i.e., the freaks we see in Congress calling for Revolution and rebelling from behind enemy lines in Obama's socialist tyranny but violent hate groups. Only, it was a little difficult since the issue agenda of both groups seemed pretty similar. '

Posted by: drindl | April 15, 2009 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Seriously, tea-bagging? Republicans are hilarious

Posted by: nmoses | April 15, 2009 1:05 PM | Report abuse

"To koolkat_1960,
You'r right no self respecting democrat would show up, because there is no such thing as a self respecting democrat. Get your facts straight Move-on is sponsored by ,millionare george soros, so he can push his marxist agenda"

that makes perfect sense, you freakazoid idiot. Why would a millionaire push a marxist agenda -- so the government can take away all of his money? Think, McFly, think. You're being used as a dupe by rich GOP fatcats.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | April 15, 2009 1:05 PM | Report abuse

"To koolkat_1960,
You'r right no self respecting democrat would show up, because there is no such thing as a self respecting democrat. Get your facts straight Move-on is sponsored by ,millionare george soros, so he can push his marxist agenda"

that makes perfect sense, you freakazoid idiot. Why would a millionaire push a marxist agenda -- so the government can take away all of his money? Think, McFly, think. You're being used as a dupe by rich GOP fatcats.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | April 15, 2009 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Wealthy Republicans acting like 4-year-olds. Their tea parties are tantrums. Everybody else should pay taxes, but not them. Their "special" selves do not believe in the common good. They believe in small government and low taxes except for government programs that they support -- like personal baseless wars fought using taxpayer money (please, no Republicans need pay) spent on sole-source Republican contractors. The problem for Republicans is that they LOST the last election. They prefer screwed-up government over government that performs rationally and well.

Posted by: BlueTwo1 | April 15, 2009 1:04 PM | Report abuse

frontpage 1 wrote;

The morons grandstanding today are crazy, idiotic morons. Literally, every aspect of the Obama administration's economic plans and tax plans CALLS FOR LOWER TAXES FOR THE LOWER CLASS, LOWER TAXES FOR THE MIDDLE

------------------------------

Your a total idiot if you think Obama is going to pay for all these big Government programs by solely overtaxing the top %2 of earners. Do the math.

Posted by: marknelso | April 15, 2009 1:00 PM | Report abuse

I'm still wondering when it became unpatriotic and un-American to pay taxes? Under which republican President did this occur?

Since the residents of D.C currently have taxation without representation, I interpret today's "tea-party republicans" as supporting full voting rights for DC's congressional delegation. After all, that's what the Boston tea-party was all about, right?

Posted by: freedom5 | April 15, 2009 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Lizza wrote:

Conservatives across the country are hoping to grab the national spotlight away from President Obama for at least a day by holding tea parties across the country today to signal their displeasure with the government spending put in place in the early days of the Obama administration.

______________


The above statement is a bit misleading as the protest also cover the bail-outs that were Bush's version of a poison pill for conservatism.

Posted by: marknelso | April 15, 2009 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Tea bagging Republicans. lol, FOX News is making people so stupid.

Hey when when they start burning the crosses?

Posted by: Holcombe1 | April 15, 2009 12:50 PM | Report abuse

I'd be willing to bet my 401k that at least half of these teabaggers don't even know what the Boston Tea Party was about and can't even answer why they are protesting higher spending/taxes when 95% of Americans received the biggest tax break in forty years under Obama.

I guess they need something simple to hang on to.

Posted by: JRM2 | April 15, 2009 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: scrivener50 | April 15, 2009 12:45 PM | Report abuse

You see the thug mentality of these things? What a bunch of trailer trash.

"Pajamas TV, a conservative Web site that says it gets about 1 million viewers a week, ran streaming video from several protests. PJTV hired McCain campaign poster boy Samuel Joseph "Joe the Plumber" Wurzelbacher to act as a reporter at one of the protests. At least one video shows a protester asking Wurzelbacher if he would like to waterboard Obama."

Posted by: drindl | April 15, 2009 12:44 PM | Report abuse

The morons grandstanding today are crazy, idiotic morons. Literally, every aspect of the Obama administration's economic plans and tax plans CALLS FOR LOWER TAXES FOR THE LOWER CLASS, LOWER TAXES FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS, WHICH MAKES UP MOST OF THE UNITED STATES POPULATION, AND, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, IN SOME SPECIFIC CASES, EVEN SOME LOWER TAXES FOR SOME PEOPLE IN HIGHER TAX BRACKETS. This is reality. So what on earth are these morons "protesting" about? And one stupid,psycho protest does NOT indicate any "movement," for gawd's sake, people. In many, real ways, the so-called "conservative" movement has been dead since the mid 1960s, and has never, ever been in sync with the majority of Americans. We know now that the Nixon, Reagan, Bush I and Bush II administrations have been four of the absolute worst political administration in the history of the United States, on every level. What we need are politicians like Obama, Gore, Clinton, Carter and others who recognize that helping people and actually being progressive and forward-minded on the issues is the only real way to go. We've known that for 40 years, and it's only the Democratic administrations who show progress in most areas. That's the cold, hard reality, no matter who's in office. There is no "conservative" movement--because there never has been one.

Posted by: thefrontpage1 | April 15, 2009 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Fascist Obama? I thought he was a secret kenyan indonsesian muslim al qaeda terrorist socialist communist?

tea bag away! frothy. sean awaits your submission, so get those tea bags out for his pleasure.

Posted by: John1263 | April 15, 2009 12:39 PM | Report abuse

These things are soooo bogus. One must assume that they're full of folks making over a quarter mil a year; anyone showing up making less than that is simply exhibiting their ignorance and gullibility.

Grass roots? More like tall cotton.

Posted by: szwheelock | April 15, 2009 12:37 PM | Report abuse

I think that these "parties" should be renamed TP parties for either totally phony or for the generic name of what Mr. Whipple used to peddle on TV as it would be the tool to best handle what most of these people are full of besides right wing cash.

Posted by: ejgallagher1 | April 15, 2009 12:37 PM | Report abuse

I don't expect Conservatives to understand or learn from history, for if they did they would not exist--but,

it is important to note that Thomas Paine hated Conservatives who were called Federalists back then.

Paine would hate the American Enterprise Institute, the Hoover and Heritage Foundations, Fox News and Rush Limburger.

Paine hated Christianity, too!

A good man!

Posted by: lichtme | April 15, 2009 12:35 PM | Report abuse

You can always tell when the lemmings have been directed to the blogs outside their bubble, at the behest of the wingnut gasbags who do their thinking for them. All these new names pop up, spouting the same idiotic venom, and parroting the same delusional talking points.

Since all you teabagging wingnut dittohead losers are so pathetically incapable of exercising independent thought, why don't you all go back to your echo chambers on Fox and Free Republic, and leave the intelligent discussion to the grown-ups?

Posted by: WaitingForGodot | April 15, 2009 12:32 PM | Report abuse

"Simply mentally replace the phrase “tea party” with “hissy fit”"

Drindl, I'm still chuckling. You could not have found a better definition for this event, it is a combination of billionaire backers who don't want to pay back America for the good they have gained from it, and their bitterheaded minions who still think they deserve to govern as a minority, just because they are so RIGHT!

"The Great Republican Hissy Fit of 2009."

There's the proper label we should use henceforth when we reference this comic event in the future.

Anyone else pretty certain of the ethnic and religious make-up of these Hissy Fitters?

Just replay an old Sarah Palin rally and you will see what I mean.

Posted by: JEP7 | April 15, 2009 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Gooooobers and Raisonettes, Goooooobers and Raisonettes!

Posted by: johng1 | April 15, 2009 12:30 PM | Report abuse

I think too many of these so called “taxpayers” are really a bunch of totally ignorant fools who allow themselves to be manipulated by these GOP opportunists. How foolish they look before the world wearing cowboy hats, waving their Made in China American flags, reciting mindless GOP rhetoric without a clue as to what they are parroting.

They are totally oblivious to the fact the FY01 federal budget spending equaled $17,216.68 per household and that by 2009, President Bush increased federal spending to an extraordinary $32,942.90 per household! Further, the majority of Bush’s excessive spending increases occurred during the years Republicans controlled Congress: 2002- 2006! A Cato Institute article from April 1, 2003 pointed out that Bush not only enjoyed the luxury of a GOP controlled Congress, but Bush had not vetoed a single spending bill in 3 years in office--that where spending was concerned, Bush was more like Carter than Reagan. Another Cato article points out government spending grew by 33% under Bush’s first term--BTW the Cato Institute is an ultra-conservative think tank.

President Bush’s FY09 federal budget taxed each American household $18,286.74--while running a budget deficit of $14,656.16 per household!! President Bush increased discretionary spending by an unparalleled 44% during his 8 years in office--by comparison, President Clinton increased discretionary spending by a paltry 0.1%. Yet, despite President Bush’s scandalous out-of-control spending, his racking up a record deficit and national debt that will take generations of Americans decades to pay off--not a peep outta these uninformed American taxpayers--or any of the so called outraged fiscal conservatives--including Rush Limbaugh et al.

So when I see these flag waving taxpayers bray about government spending I thing people really need to get informed about their government… the time for discussion on government spending needed to happen several trillion dollars and two wars, several homeland security and many social policies ago. Until people get informed and involved they will continue to be nothing more than pawns and stooges for these GOP opportunists.

Posted by: txgall | April 15, 2009 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Alternate name for today's' protests'

Send In the Clowns

Posted by: drindl | April 15, 2009 12:28 PM | Report abuse

"t's time to get back to the foundation of the U.S. Constitution. Attend the Tea Party in your area.

Let's take back our country from the Fascist Obama and his destructive policies."

I doubt you are even literate enough to have read the Constiution. You clowns have no clue what you are talkng about.

Posted by: drindl | April 15, 2009 12:27 PM | Report abuse

At least the "teabaggers" in DC are getting a good soaking...LOL!!!

Posted by: demtse | April 15, 2009 12:26 PM | Report abuse

vtduffman at 9:51 AM got something very right about today's chatter.;

"All the posts are essentially the same, too."

We KNOW there's at least one commentor who uses sockpuppets shamelessly, it is quite likely many more have taken on this tack, posing as multiple characters with curiously identical writing styles.

Posers and sockpuppets seem to make up the majority of Republican commentors these days, it has been YEARS (since 2006)since a reasonable conservative voice, worthy of respect and consideration, has inhabited this blog.

The problem with sockpuppets, trolls and posers is that, while they can create an illusion of multiple members in their profane haters club here on the blogs, only one of their characters can actually show up for a teabag party.

Posted by: JEP7 | April 15, 2009 12:24 PM | Report abuse


It's time to get back to the foundation of the U.S. Constitution. Attend the Tea Party in your area.

Let's take back our country from the Fascist Obama and his destructive policies.

NO MORE BIG GOVERNMENT...


Posted by: charko825 | April 15, 2009 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Simply mentally replace the phrase “tea party” with “hissy fit” and it really clears things up. For example, the Instapundit’s editorial in the WSJ (further proof, no doubt, of the grass roots nature of this event!):

Today American taxpayers in more than 300 locations in all 50 states will hold rallies—dubbed “tea parties” “Hissy fits”—to protest higher taxes and out-of-control government spending. There is no political party behind these rallies, no grand right-wing conspiracy, not even a 501© group like MoveOn.org.
So who’s behind the Tax Day tea parties hissy fits? Ordinary folks who are using the power of the Internet to organize…

The protests began with bloggers in Seattle, Wash., who organized a demonstration on Feb. 16. As word of this spread, rallies in Denver and Mesa, Ariz., were quickly organized for the next day. Then came CNBC talker Rick Santelli’s Feb. 19 “rant heard round the world” in which he called for a “Chicago tea party” “Chicago hissy fit” on July Fourth. The tea-party hissy fit moniker stuck, but angry taxpayers weren’t willing to wait until July. Soon, tea-party protests hissy fits were appearing in one city after another, drawing at first hundreds, and then thousands, to marches in cities from Orlando to Kansas City to Cincinnati."

I hope that helps you.

Yes, it's definitely 'grass roots' when the WSJ is plugging it... what a joke.

Posted by: drindl | April 15, 2009 12:21 PM | Report abuse

I love it.......I just love it. I only wish I had access to live feeds at various locations. Primarily GA, TX, or AL for the best laughs. Maybe I'd be surprised by who shows up, but from the sound of the supporters it doesn't seem likely.

Posted by: theobserver4 | April 15, 2009 12:18 PM | Report abuse


"I just have to ask why are so many of y'all aginst the peoples first amendment right to peaceably assemble , and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.?"

We aren't against it. We don't care. That's what you people don't understand. Possibly it seems silly to us for people whose taxes have just been lowered to protest a non-existent tax hike, but go for it.

Posted by: drindl | April 15, 2009 12:17 PM | Report abuse

To Teabag or not to Teabag? I will support to my very last breath the right of any and all people to assemble and protest. That holds all the more true when the cause is unpopular, as the Teabag protests are in many quarters.
I find it more than a little interesting, though, that nary a peep was heard when the previous administration expanded government, spent tens of billions of dollars on contracts that have yet to be accounted for (how about KBR's faulty electrical installations in Iraq leading to the electrocution of our service men and women?), spied on us (remember the NSA intercepting our phone calls and e-mails?), and oversaw a shameful and unprecedented redistribution of wealth to the wealthiest of the wealthy among us. The examples and the wreckage left behind are too many to list.
Maybe there was silence then because the previous administration, Fox News, the Wall Street Journal, the Sean Hannitys, the Rush Limbaughs, the James Dobsons, and the Bill O'Reillys of the world were walking in lockstep, willing accomplices.
Teabaggers, ask yourselves: Are you being used again by those whose primary motivations are greed and power?

Posted by: rukidding1 | April 15, 2009 12:17 PM | Report abuse

I'm a middle aged civil servant and single mother who has had to work 4 jobs for the past 20 years to survive economically. During the past 10 years my salary has shrunk due to an ever increasing mix of government cutbacks, outsourcing, and steadily increasing fees for non-existent service. Right now I'm in a dispute with a very renowned insurance company that keeps increasing the coverage for the tiny contents of my rented apartment, yet won't let me change or cancel the policy without taking time off and coming in personally. Are my interests being represented at these "tea parties?" Is one of the CEO's who got paid fortunes to ruin people like me going to help me out or lessen my burden for even one day? Of course not. These tea parties, like everything that comes out of the far right of the Republican party, are frankly ridiculous.

Posted by: realadult | April 15, 2009 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Once more, we see blind sheep led by deaf goats owned by hungry wolves.

This teabag protest is just like the fake print-shop copied "handmade" signs the Republicans had to hand out to their people, because none of them had an original thought to paint for their own.

Notice how all the slogans are similar, if not identical, to the tripe promulgated by the Palinites who worshiped at the throne of the High Priestess of Wingnuttery throughout the McCain campaign?

If there is one thing this rally will do, it will identify to all the sane conservatives just how crazy some of their fellows are. We will really get a glimpse into the Republican underworld with this event, all the looneys will be out in force.

I would not be surprised to see some phony riots start, as "violent left wing extremists" dressed in facemasks, attempt to disrupt this exercise in plastic democracy.

We will never see who is really under those masks, but I'd bet it won's be liberals, it will more likely be the Brooks Brothers crowd dressed like hippies.

And when it's over,

Posted by: JEP7 | April 15, 2009 12:09 PM | Report abuse

I just have to ask why are so many of y'all aginst the peoples first amendment right to peaceably assemble , and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.?

Most of you have no problem with NOW. or Code Pink or any liberal group exercising their first amendment right ... but when it is people who oppose opressive taxation and what we preceive as the socialization of America, you go nuts on us ... say the crap never stops.

You were lied to during the election. 95% of us did not get a tax cut and will not get a tax cut ... we will all see our taxes go up is some way or other. We will all pay for this 5 trillion dollars ... and our great great grand children also will pay for it.

You may disagree with me and that is your right ... but it is still my right, and the right of every citizen, even if our president sees it as a negative right, to peacably assemble.


Posted by: markandbeth | April 15, 2009 12:03 PM | Report abuse

OK, so since our economy does not rely heavily on the production of tea anymore, what exactly are they dumping into the water this time? Cars, computers, and cash? If that's the case, just tell me where to go. And make sure they put the cash in a waterproof container. I'm grabbing my coat...

Posted by: karen0500 | April 15, 2009 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Hi,

If you are interested, here is the robo call audio for the Tea Party(s) today.

http://thinkdodone.typepad.com/ccd/2009/04/tea-party-robocall-audio-found.html

Regards,
Shaun Dakin
CEO
The National Political Do Not Contact Registry

Posted by: shimane1 | April 15, 2009 11:59 AM | Report abuse

To koolkat_1960,
You'r right no self respecting democrat would show up, because there is no such thing as a self respecting democrat. Get your facts straight Move-on is sponsored by ,millionare george soros, so he can push his marxist agenda

Posted by: romeror2k | April 15, 2009 11:58 AM | Report abuse

It's spring time. The sap is rising and the bugs are coming out of the woodwork.

Posted by: clairevb | April 15, 2009 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Goobers, you are a sight to see! Idiocracy in action. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

What will Velveeta and Formica report on Fox tonight!?!?!?!?!

Posted by: johng1 | April 15, 2009 11:55 AM | Report abuse

do we have a consensus?

taxation without representation.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | April 15, 2009 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Republicans are pathetic.

Posted by: PutDownTheKoolaid | April 15, 2009 11:46 AM | Report abuse

gee drindl, i'm impressed.

however, it sounds like the Inquisition!!
((((muuuuhhhahhhhaaa)

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | April 15, 2009 11:44 AM | Report abuse

As for this tea party revitalizing the Republican party, to paraphrase Thomas Paine, its akin to giving medicine to a corpse.

Posted by: slim2 | April 15, 2009 11:43 AM | Report abuse

What was it the original Boston Tea Party was a protest of? I can't quite remember....

Posted by: nmoses | April 15, 2009 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Bubbette1,

Maybe if you studied and didnt listen to Fox you wouldnt come off as a little ignorant. I didnt hear a peep from any Republicans when Bush took a 295 billion dollar deficit and then squandered that and added 6 trillion to the national debt. And do you realize that Obama has reduced the taxes on over 95% of the American people? So again just what is it you are supposed to be protesting that you kept silent about the last 8 years??????

Posted by: rharring | April 15, 2009 11:37 AM | Report abuse

No,
we think its funny that you choose now to get upset.

Bush was far worse for government spending and growth. Far worse in taking away our basic rights.

But you chose NOW to get upset?

Its a joke. Its partisan. Real people upset with this stuff would of been getting angry about 7 years ago.

Its a sham. Partisan Sham.

Posted by: tallertapas311 | April 15, 2009 11:35 AM | Report abuse

More of the GOP operatives hiring surrogates to play for a tv audience like they did during the quagmire of the 2000 elections in FL?

Posted by: shhhhh | April 15, 2009 11:33 AM | Report abuse

"You are all so angry, why is that? Such hatred and venom coming from the left."

LOL. We aren't angry, pal. It's not us taking to the streets to protest some imaginary wrong invented by Rupert Murdoch. You're the angry ones--we're just laughing at you.

Posted by: drindl | April 15, 2009 11:33 AM | Report abuse

You are all so angry, why is that? Such hatred and venom coming from the left. Is it because you can't stand that right wingers generally just want to live and let live? You can't imagine that we think for ourselves and are not just puppets being manipulated by corporations? That thought scares you, doesn't it? But that's the way it is; conservatives just want to go to work, earn a living, keep their families happy and healthy, and do unto others...

So why does this make you angry? Because its not 'fair' according to you? Because some people have more stuff than you and that's not fair? Because conservatives would rather donate money to their choice causes than have the government take and spend it as they please? Because conservatives donate far more per year than liberals (who appear to be all talk, no action)? Maybe because conservatives are happier than liberals, and that just p*sses you off, huh?

Posted by: falltillfly

-According to the guidelines of the omnipotent Republican party yes it does irritate me that you can say live and let live with a straight face. As soon as a citizen deviates from the planned vanilla existence that is right wing dreamland they're branded a traitor or heathen. I'm sorry but big government is more than just taxes and pork spending. It's trampling on the pursuit of happiness and being free from the tyranny of the majority.

As far as "donating" to causes......a lot of the pet projects that conservatives donate to are hate oriented or into the pockets of Israel to fund the rapture. I prefer to donate to animal shelters or the poor. You know....all those creatures that are breathing on their own but are neglected for sub standard bootstraps.

Posted by: theobserver4 | April 15, 2009 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Funny how people who create small insular worlds for themselves think everyone thinks what they do. So those tea baggers who only listen to fox and only hang out with people with narrow uninformed views like themselves see that everyone thinks what they do. Only "everyone" is only their tiny circle of friends. It is like drug addicts. Most of them are convinced that most people use drugs because all of the people they hang out with use drugs.

Tea bag away. Sean is frothy over getting tea bagged so many times in one day by so many of his saggy old white male listeners.

Posted by: John1263 | April 15, 2009 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Funny how people who create small insular worlds for themselves think everyone thinks what they do. So those tea baggers who only listen to fox and only hang out with people with narrow uninformed views like themselves see that everyone thinks what they do. Only "everyone" is only their tiny circle of friends. It is like drug addicts. Most of them are convinced that most people use drugs because all of the people they hang out with use drugs.

Tea bag away. Sean is frothy over getting tea bagged so many times in one day by so many of his saggy old white male listeners.

Posted by: John1263 | April 15, 2009 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Oh give me a break! The so tea party is nothing but a scam by the right wing who are turning to desperate measures. As far as I am concerned these are deranged or brainwashed people led by scam artist whose only interest is to defend the commercial elite against the public interest. I doubt these people even drink tea. In their petty mind, only socialists drink tea.

Posted by: kevin1231 | April 15, 2009 11:27 AM | Report abuse

99% of the tea-baggers actually saw their taxes go DOWN in April. Unless you make 250K or over you are better off under Obama. The President's plan actually calls for taxes rates LOWER than the Reagan era. This ain't about taxes...It's manufactured, astroturf to stir up the GOP's goober base.

Posted by: willandjansdad1 | April 15, 2009 11:20 AM

------

LOLOL

GOOBER! hee hee.

That is what I now picture these morons as, the Goober character from the Andy Griffith Show.

Posted by: johng1 | April 15, 2009 11:27 AM | Report abuse

exact movements of rahmster is more like it.

pouring tea in fountains is not a good idea. messes up the drainage.


so new york has a same sex bill floating?

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | April 15, 2009 11:27 AM | Report abuse

"This is not a Republican movement as the liberal media likes to portray it.
It is an American movement.
There is no political party behind these rallies, no grand right-wing conspiracy, not even a 501(c) group like MoveOn.org."

Right, ace, keep telling yourself that this fiasco is not of, by, and for rightwingnuts.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | April 15, 2009 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Wow! After spending like the proverbial "drunken sailors" for the past eight years, doling out $9Billion dollars in tax breaks for big oil, and an equal amount or more for the wealthiest 1% of American's as well as untold billions in war profits to Carlyle, Haliburton and their subsidiaries through no-bid contracts handed out by Cheney and his sock puppet Bush the GOP now wants us to believe they want to "save" our children and grandchildren from debt? They're mad because President Obama (a president who actually can complete sentences and hasn't already taken a vacation) wants to give tax relief to the middle class and raise taxes on the WEALTHY? So NOW they support a tax revolt? A tax revolt led by Newt? Mr. Family values "I love my wife so I'll cheat on her then divorce her while she's in the hospital" Gingritch? Hahahahaha, get corporate media to make it look like ALL of America is behind their movement? you guys are just a joke and 95% of America knows it.....Hey goobers, there is NO SUCH THING as Liberal Media, the News Media is completely owned by Corporations like GE (donated 1.1 million to Bush), Time Warner (1.6 million), Rupert Murdoch, Westinghouse(whose head of it's board of directors is also a bigwig at Carlyle), Disney(ABC/CAP donated 640 thousand to GW's 2000 campaign). Duh wonder why there was no outcry about what a certifiable idiot Bush was? his friends OWN the media. Wonder why there was so much about how "sound" the economy was? Rupert Murdoch OWNS Dow Jones and the Wall Street Journal...liberal media, nice propaganda...

Posted by: Watcher1 | April 15, 2009 11:20 AM | Report abuse

99% of the tea-baggers actually saw their taxes go DOWN in April. Unless you make 250K or over you are better off under Obama. The President's plan actually calls for taxes rates LOWER than the Reagan era.

This ain't about taxes...It's manufactured, astroturf to stir up the GOP's goober base.

Posted by: willandjansdad1 | April 15, 2009 11:20 AM | Report abuse

Bubbette:

You said of your group teabagging: "The point of this Tea Party is not lack of representation, but lack of adequate representation."

I repeat, we had an election in November and you lost. This tea bag garbage is a temper tantrum from the people who can't get over that simple fact.

And btw, where was your outrage when the country was being run into debt during the years of Republican rule? The financial mess wasn't created in the last few months.

Posted by: hfl2001 | April 15, 2009 11:18 AM | Report abuse

"being cast by national Republicans as the first signs of a rebirth of a conservative movement"

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: a waste of desert sand;
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Wind shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

Posted by: drindl | April 15, 2009 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Neil Cavuto:
"Great to see so many people here for the tea party."

Sean Hannity: "Right Glenn. I'm here at the 'Barack is a muslim' booth and there are so many people getting bumper stickers that it is really heart warming."

Neil Cavuto: "Sean, whats happening at the 'Barack is not a U.S. citizen' booth?"

Sean Hannity: "Yeah, so you can get 'Barack is from Kenya' bumper stickers, and they have 'Barack is from Indonesia bumper stickers', and they got 'Hawaii is not in the U.S.of A.' bumper stickers. They also have some cute pantomime going on with actors in black face; very cute."

Neil Cavuto: "Back here at the Fox News booth, we are giving away free t-shirts for the first 100 people who show up and if you bring a friend you will also be entered in a drawing to see Britney Spears' new show. So come on down, bring friends, family, anyone you can scrape..err..bring. Of course we are reporting these events fair and balanced just like the Million Man March"

Posted by: hayden1 | April 15, 2009 11:17 AM | Report abuse

The Republican party's endorsement of the event illustrates the lack of ideas. The Republicans can only claim that they aren't the Democrats, or President Obama.

The Republicans have yet to come up with anything substantive in the way of alternative plans. For example, the Republican Party opposes the presidents economic plan, but has turned around and proposes tax cuts and has been unwilling to make the necessary cuts to pay for the tax cuts.

Until, the GOP comes up with a plan that lays out how they want government to work--something other than no-government--they won't get too far.

Posted by: UnPatriotic | April 15, 2009 11:17 AM | Report abuse

"This outpouring of citizen energy is like Perot activists in 1992" said former House Speaker Newt Gingrich

Ross Perot, AM Radio, button shoes and a glass of Sarsparilla...All led by a cigar chomping blowhard opining on mostly low-power, daylight only broadcast outlets.

The modern Conservative movement...Just like Dad's '57 Chevy.

Posted by: willandjansdad1 | April 15, 2009 11:15 AM | Report abuse

It's the Republican party that are to blame 99% for this mess the world is in.

Now they THINK they are conservatives?

Give me a break!!!

Never,Never, Ever Again Trust a Republican!!

They ALL are Thief's, Crooks, Cheats & liars!!

TAR & FEATHER; THEN HANG THE TRAITORS EVERY ONE OF THEM!!! (figuratively speaking)

Posted by: imZandor | April 15, 2009 11:15 AM | Report abuse

HEY tommyk63:

You copy and pasted from the article that drudge is posting right now.

That is an OPINION article and there are plenty of GOP funded groups helping push this thing.

This is GOP not America.

Get back to DRUDGE tommyk63

Posted by: tallertapas311 | April 15, 2009 11:14 AM | Report abuse

The conservative rebirth today will be stillborn because it has no brain, no soul and no heart.

Posted by: eeitreim | April 15, 2009 11:14 AM | Report abuse

"This outpouring of citizen energy is like Perot activists in 1992" said former House Speaker Newt Gingrich

Ross Perot, AM Radio, button shoes and a glass of Sarsparilla...All led by a cigar chomping blowhard opining on mostly low-power, daylight only broadcast outlets.

The modern Conservative movement...Just like Dad's '57 Chevy.

Posted by: willandjansdad1 | April 15, 2009 11:13 AM | Report abuse


Gallup polls indicate that Americans understand the need for taxes at higher level than for many many years. I believe people realize that there is a correlation between taxes and desirable federal programs that benefit people who want our country to be safe, want clean food, air and water, want a reasonably fair economic system, want health care, good education, and new sources of energy.

Posted by: cdierd1944 | April 15, 2009 9:11 AM | Report abuse
========================
I think you're an idiot...if you believe that a huge majority of US voters are not irate at what the Obama administration is doing with our tax dollars and all the new taxes they are imposing, without much publicity because the press doesn't want to report the fact that nuisance taxes are cropping up all over, including increasing taxes on beer, the blue collar beverage of choice. Yep, those same blue collar workers who went for Obama in a big way, thanks to their union bosses. Every person I know is fed up with government, even more so since our new tax and spend Democrats have taken over. Hide your heads in the sand but you may find that you're the ones who will be kicked in the butt the hardest.

Posted by: hazwalnut | April 15, 2009 11:13 AM | Report abuse

"being cast by national Republicans as the first signs of a rebirth of a conservative movement"

I'm thinking Rosemary's Baby.

Posted by: nodebris | April 15, 2009 11:11 AM | Report abuse

"In the case of illegal aliens, their native country has a claim of allegiance on the child. Therefore, some Constitutional scholars argue that the completeness of the allegiance to the United States is impaired and logically precludes automatic citizenship. However, this issue has never been directly decided by the U.S. Supreme Court."

There is no doubt the anchor baby issue needs to be addressed. It would solve many immigration problems.

Posted by: Bubbette1 | April 15, 2009 11:08 AM | Report abuse

I'd make a joke about teabagging but rightwingnuts have no balls (other than some of the women).

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | April 15, 2009 11:07 AM | Report abuse

No self-respecting democrat would show their face at one of these corporate lobbyist's lovefest. We don't do the bidding of Rupert Murdoch and Rush Limbaugh. We are not the slaves of corporate interests like th puppets of the right.

"ThinkProgress reported last week that corporate lobbyists are helping to orchestrate the anti-Obama tea party protests. These lobbying-run front groups, along with promotion help from Fox News, are organizing the tea parties by calling right-wing activists and asking them to organize. They are also coordinating conference calls among activists, writing press releases, providing sign ideas, building websites supporting the protests, and distributing talking points so that the protesters can stay on message.

Today, FreedomWork’s Adam Brandon responded to the criticism that its efforts to organize these anti-Obama protests are ‘astroturf,’ saying that the organization’s work in coordinating and planning the events would be akin to “MoveOn’s model.” However, MoveOn is not run by corporate lobbyists and is funded by actual grassroots activists. On the other hand, the leader of FreedomWorks, Dick Armey, who is ranked as one of DC’s top “hired guns,” is a corporate lobbyist with a history of directing FreedomWorks to support the goals of his lobbying clients. For example:

– Armey’s FreedomWorks is actively organizing against health care reform. Indeed, Armey’s lobbying firm represents pharmaceutical companies, such as Bristol-Myers Squibb, that oppose comparative effectiveness research in the health reform plan because such a program may cut into revenue for branded drugs.

– Armey’s lobbying firm represents the trade group for the life insurance industry. Indeed, FreedomWorks mobilizes its members for deregulated life insurance reform.

– Currently, FreedomWorks is focusing their energy activism on supporting the status quo reliance on fossil fuels. In addition to working for various domestic oil companies with a vested interest in opposing change, Armey’s lobbying firm represents Sheikh Mohammed Bin Rashid Al Maktoum, Prime Minister of the UAE, on energy related issues such as maintaining the U.S.-UAE relationship where “U.S companies have played major roles in the development of UAE energy resources, which represent about 10 percent of global oil reserves.”

Posted by: drindl | April 15, 2009 11:07 AM | Report abuse

ReaganiteRepublican | April 15, 2009 9:42 AM writes:

"It’s not out-of-the-question that the 2009 TEA party participants could someday be regarded by history as patriots who made a difference- same as 1773. This sort of public outrage might be just what’s needed to break through the media’s manufactured reality."


What a ridiculous assertion - where were the flea-baggers when the inarticulate son of a former president added tera-bucks to the national debt, funding his hobby-war while sweeping Afghanistan under the carpet? And need we mention his prowess in economic matters?

We need the flux of conservative & liberal ideas to run this country. What we get from Republican High Priests is pseudo-faith, pseudo-patriotism, and empty pontification.


When Rove, Chaney, Gingrich and their adoring zombies actually put on a uniform and _serve_, then they have acquired some small credibility from which to discuss patriotism.


Until then, twaddle-brained flea-baggers are cordiality invited to choke on their tea-bags - the best possible use for tea since Revolutionary times.


Posted by: FredJ1 | April 15, 2009 11:06 AM | Report abuse

This is not a Republican movement as the liberal media likes to portray it.
It is an American movement.
There is no political party behind these rallies, no grand right-wing conspiracy, not even a 501(c) group like MoveOn.org.

Posted by: tommyk63 | April 15, 2009 11:04 AM | Report abuse

"There was no approval to bankrupt the Country on a glutenous spending spree that will indenture our Country. If the Senate and House of Representatives want to ignore this message we will see how things turn out in 2010."

a 'gluteneous' spening spree? On what, wheat?

Interesting how in a Venn diagram 'winger' overlaps 'illiterate'

Posted by: drindl | April 15, 2009 11:03 AM | Report abuse

theobserver4: Sorry, as an Independent I did not vote for Bush. I did not vote for Obama as he is clearly not qualified for the position. Unfortunately with the control the Republicans and Democrats have over the voting rules in this Country getting qualified candidates is like finding hens teeth.

It is sad to see the constant bickering going on between Citizens on these blogs. It is the equivalent of Nero fiddling. Wake up and smell the guano folks.

Posted by: Bubbette1 | April 15, 2009 11:02 AM | Report abuse

"And you can believe that Obama and the left are plenty scared of the TEA party movement"

We are all so like terrified of you people and your teabags.

Posted by: drindl | April 15, 2009 10:59 AM | Report abuse

"Actually the 14th Amendment is vauge on that point"

It's actualyl not vague at all, have a read:

---
Section. 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
---

Seems pretty straightforward to me, If you could point out which part you find "vague" though, I'd love to help clarify for you. That said,

"Congress could pass legislation clarifying the intent of the 14th Amendment."

They can absolutely not do any such thing. Because of our systems of checks and balances, the only people with this power are the Supreme Court. However, if you have any links to any pieces of legislation that have been passed (and upheld by tSCotUS) that were written to "clarify" amendments, I'd love to take a look at them.

That said, I think we should start with the "vague" issue.

Posted by: VTDuffman | April 15, 2009 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Republicans machined-gun their feet with surgical precision.

I just got of the phone with "a few of my closest friends" on the hill.

I've advised them to "loose the dogs of war" on the Republican Party.

The Republicans are the least sympathetic group of folks since the SS.

Republicans say they want to cut wasteful spending.

We'll start with every Republican project out there.

Republicans have asked for war.

America will give them as much as they can stand.

Republicans aren't American.

They're just greedly little trolls that don't care about anybody but themselves.

Now we care about them.

But not in the way they want.

Posted by: svreader | April 15, 2009 10:58 AM | Report abuse

hfl2001: Yes and we can all see that Obama is keeping his multitudes of promises. Transparency? Where is the TARP money going? How much of the toxic assets of the banks have been passed to We the People? There was no approval to bankrupt the Country on a glutenous spending spree that will indenture our Country. If the Senate and House of Representatives want to ignore this message we will see how things turn out in 2010.

You want to know who is winning with Obama. Look up the Federal Reserve. It is comprised of 12 banks privately owned. Those banks hold a boatload of toxic assets. Now do those bankers want to be forced to go to bankruptcy court and eat the bad investments, or do they have Obama hire their flunky Geithner and under slight of hand pass the toxic debts off the banks books to We the People?

Which way do you think it is going? Obama is going to protect the People and have the banks and business eat their losses. Or, does he have the government step in and take over these bad assets so the tax payers can eat it. If you guessed the taxpayers eat it you win!

Posted by: Bubbette1 | April 15, 2009 10:58 AM | Report abuse

The point of this Tea Party is not lack of representation, but lack of adequate representation.

Posted by: Bubbette1

-This is a democracy and the ideas that you want to see represented were soundly kicked in the rear. You should be paying attention to the resounding defeats in the last two election cycles so you don't continue to crab walk further to the right. Keep going further and further fringe and your representation will continue to shrink.

Posted by: theobserver4 | April 15, 2009 10:56 AM | Report abuse

What these events represent is not a grassroots phenomena at all -- nothing like the boston tea party. Rather it's more like the 'Church and King' riots of the late 1700s in Brimingham, Englad. This was a reactionary band of working-class men, incited by wealthy conservative elites, hostile to change in all its diverse forms. The parallels are striking. We'll see about the riots.

Posted by: drindl | April 15, 2009 10:54 AM | Report abuse

I can't wait to see the poor and biased news coverage these Tea Parties will get across the nation.

10 or 20 Liberals show up some where and you would think that there was a Revolution.

Thousands and Thousands + Citizens of all parties show up at various locations, mainly to complain about the direction of the Government on spending, and the Liberal lunatics will deny it ever happened, or that it was some fluke. How could anyone not like the Obama. Well Liberal fools, I am having some gut pains, so I think I will go take an Obama, and get it out of my system.

Posted by: ignoranceisbliss

-Shouldn't you idiots have thrown one of these each year in the 80s and until 1994 when Clinton began to bring responsibility back to gov't? Then in 2002 you could have started them back up again. Besides the fact that I'm looking forward to the coverage of the pimply College Republicans and the camo wearing rednecks standing side by side with the wealthy elite (like they'll show up) getting airtime.

It smacks of hypocrisy and it's obvious that this is driven by an Australian gazillionare and his American lackeys.

I don't agree with the way we've been spending money for decades, but when it was going to the rich or well connected pockets Republicans didn't say booo.

Posted by: theobserver4 | April 15, 2009 10:53 AM | Report abuse

To VTDuffman: Actually the 14th Amendment is vauge on that point and the Congress could pass legislation clarifying the intent of the 14th Amendment. No doubt it would end up at the Supreme Court, but it has a decent chance of being upheld.

Posted by: Bubbette1 | April 15, 2009 10:50 AM | Report abuse

"The point of this Tea Party is not lack of representation, but lack of adequate representation.

Posted by: Bubbette1 | April 15, 2009 10:45 AM"

Uh, Bubbette, that's why we have elections. You know, like the one in November.

Posted by: hfl2001 | April 15, 2009 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Never a good idea to show up, unarmed, to a battle of wits


"It’s not out-of-the-question that the 2009 TEA party participants could someday be regarded by history as patriots who made a difference- same as 1773. This sort of public outrage might be just what’s needed to break through the media’s manufactured reality."

Or, more likely, a bunch of Tim McVeigh wannabes is how history will judge these goofy neocon love-ins.


"And you can believe that Obama and the left are plenty scared of the TEA party movement- how else to explain the dubious timing of his "everything is under control" speech on the economy, and (on the same day before the protests) the DHS report warning of "right-wing" radicals and their propensity to violence? Now ACORN is being deployed to confront these protests at the street-level?"

Right, Obama, the Dems and us libs are quaking in fear from a bunch of whiners pitching hissy fits stupidly blathering easily-debunked rhetoric about "ACORN" & George Soros.

You keep right on telling yourself that if it makes you happy.

"Barack Obama is rapidly liquidating everything that made this country great… and needs to be put back-on-his-heels with a major embarrassment that puts an end to the myth that everybody just loves Barack and his wacked-out agenda… because millions of us DON’T."
Posted by: ReaganiteRepublican | April 15, 2009 9:58 AM

And FAR more voters DO agree with Obama, not you.

Reality is that your mindset has been demolished by the voters for the last two elections, and that streak doesn't look to change any time in the near future.

You alleged "conservatives" have no problems shredding the social safety net while trying to police what goes on in everyone's bedrooms.

This tea party stunt will end up being about as effective as those "Justice Sunday" rallies that riled up the extremist knuckle-draggers representing the Taliban wing of the GOP, lots of sound and fury, but, in the end, nothing else.

No legislation was passed after those events, which means they had zero, none, effect on what those idiots were griping about.

I've never seen a group of such conflicted sore losers before, always seeking to paint themselves as victims AND strong-willed at the same time.

With such a bunch of willfully-ignorant sheeple to lead around by the nose, it's no wonder the neocon talking heads-Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly, Coulter, Malkin, Savage, Beck, etc-are making the big bucks draining the flocks wallets dry.

Posted by: kingcranky | April 15, 2009 10:49 AM | Report abuse

"3. Pass legislation to stop anchor babies."

You can't "pass legislation" to stop anchor babies. Unless by "pass legislation" you mean "pass a Constitutional Amendment."

Posted by: VTDuffman | April 15, 2009 10:48 AM | Report abuse

The point of this Tea Party is not lack of representation, but lack of adequate representation.

Posted by: Bubbette1 | April 15, 2009 10:45 AM | Report abuse

"I always thought that the idea of the Boston tea party concerned taxation without representation,"

Essentially, it was. Which is ironic considering (as mentioned below), I'd wager 99% of the teabaggers vehemently oppose the people of Washington DC getting congressional representation.

Posted by: VTDuffman | April 15, 2009 10:42 AM | Report abuse

To EarlC: Want an agenda:

1. Find, register or deport the estimated 12 to 40 million illegal aliens.

2. Finish the border fence.

3. Pass legislation to stop anchor babies.

4. Ban government unions.

5. Stop paying social security to anyone that has not paid into it.

6. Stop "borrowing" from social security. (Already to late all that is left is a government IOU).

7. Repeal the order that all work programs are to pay union wages.

8. Send AIG, bad banks and failed businesses to the bankruptcy court.

9. Repeal the Federal Reserve.

10. Bring the Treasury back under the control of the Congress.

There is a short list of ten for you. Get back to me once we have achieved this. The costs savings just on these items will go a long way to stopping the bleeding.

Posted by: Bubbette1 | April 15, 2009 10:41 AM | Report abuse

I always thought that the idea of the Boston tea party concerned taxation without representation, with representation being the operative word. The GOP are adequately represented, but their problem is that they are no longer the majority. And Karl Rove's plan for a permanent Republican majority was defeated -- by American taxpayers. So have your tea parties, moan and complain, and remember that you are now in a minority.

Posted by: marmac5 | April 15, 2009 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Yeah Chris, but what do crucial leaders like Sarah Palin think about tea bagging parties?

Republicans are deep in their holes.
But they keep getting deeper and deeper.

Posted by: shrink2 | April 15, 2009 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Google Ron Paul. Google Creature from Jekyll Island. See the truth for yourself. Run for office and save the nation.

Posted by: robinsoncom | April 15, 2009 10:34 AM | Report abuse

RE: GUNK

"I agree, but I also ask:

Why didn't the Democrats do it either? "


WE DID.... WE ELECTED OBAMA.

Teabagging is just a tantrum by a GOP nobody pays attention to.

Posted by: tallertapas311 | April 15, 2009 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Look. Who's kidding who here? This is the same cast of haters, extremists, tinfoil hat conspiracists and--let's be honest--racists who turned up at McCain-Palin rallies with their slurs and insults and who just had to get in our face and tell us how "really, really mad" they are.

Look. Americans don't really like activists. They didn't like the anti-war activists in the 60s and they certainly don't like this bunch of "silent majority" pretenders. And Chris you're wrong. There is no plus side here at all for the republicans. At the end of it all, what you have is a bunch of angry, potbellied white men and angry, white overweight women who in the final analysis are nothing more than angry dittoheads who are just not used to having a democrat in the White House. Especially one who isn't white and southern.

And what is it they are protesting? In the final analysis this wormy bunch is all sweaty and hot over the possiblity that the wealthy taxpayer might just have to give up some of the gains they got over the past 30 years. Boy, that's real populism, isn't it? And isn't icurious it all begain within the gated confines of Wall Street.

This is the sort of populism only a Rush Limbaugh could love.

Posted by: jaxas | April 15, 2009 10:32 AM | Report abuse

"Why didn't the Democrats do it either?"

Do what? Throw teabags at stuff? Because it's silly.

Oppose Spending? Because Democrats don't oppose spending.

Speak out against the President? I can't speak for Democrats in particular, but anyone who spoke out against the president the last 8 years has been labeled as some variation of "terrorist sympathizeer."

With that said, it *is* nice to see the GOP decide that political dissent is patriotic again.

Posted by: VTDuffman | April 15, 2009 10:29 AM | Report abuse

"And how can anybody take them serious when they werent doing this UNDER BUSH.

He grew the govt quicker and faster then any president ever. NO TEABAGS?

He took away most of the bill of rights. NO TEABAGS?

WHERE THE F WERE YOU THE PAST 8 YEARS TEABAGGERS? Oh yeh, you were defending Bush."


I agree, but I also ask:

Why didn't the Democrats do it either?

Posted by: grunk | April 15, 2009 10:26 AM | Report abuse

VT --

True enough that the event is today and therefore could not be covered last week. But the "tea party" domain names were registered last summer. And White supremacist groups have been publicizing their intention to use tea parties as recruiting events. You can't tell me that reporters who just spent months speculating about the White House puppy couldn't have reported a teensy bit about a movement like this, grassroots or not!

Posted by: umprof | April 15, 2009 10:22 AM | Report abuse

And how can anybody take them serious when they werent doing this UNDER BUSH.

He grew the govt quicker and faster then any president ever. NO TEABAGS?

He took away most of the bill of rights. NO TEABAGS?

WHERE THE F WERE YOU THE PAST 8 YEARS TEABAGGERS? Oh yeh, you were defending Bush.

Posted by: tallertapas311 | April 15, 2009 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Is it just me, or is it weird that the GOP Lobbyists had to resort to copying the ideas of fans of the failed TV show "Jericho?"

HINT: This is the other part of your problem, you can't come up with any original ideas.

Posted by: VTDuffman | April 15, 2009 10:20 AM | Report abuse

To the contrary, Grunk, the more these imbeciles teabag, the more they drive moderate, objective minded Americans over to the Obama side. I fully support letting them out of the asylum for full public viewing.

Posted by: hiberniantears | April 15, 2009 10:20 AM | Report abuse

In 1767 Parliament also passed the Townshend Revenue Act of 1767, which levied new taxes, including one on tea, in the colonies. The Boston Tea Party was a controversy about Parliament's right to tax the colonies. This is Tea Party being held today is a nationwide protest started by the Porkulas protest organized by Carender, but taken over by right wing zealots like FOX and folks like Cavuto,. Malkin,. Beck,. Hannity. Enough with the oh-this-is-a-non-partisan-event. Even Geraldo Rivera and Fox Regular Hater Ann Coulter admitted” that this tea party deal is a movement by conservatives who are upset with Obama. And as for the “grassroots” BS, the principle organizers of the local events are actually the lobbyist-run think tanks Americans for Prosperity and Freedom Works ,and the national tea party movement is partnered with Newt Gingrich's “American Solutions for Winning the Future” organization. And Reagan’s landmark tax rate cute was reversed shortly thereafter. And let's take into account the mostly white crowds at the various rallies. And seen in the mob photos, I didn't see anything but white faces. This is nothing but a modern day KKK rally. Where was all this rage when Bush was President?


Texas – all white; Orlando – all white; Topeka – all white (little confusion about the message there; one person held up an anti-immigration sign); Oklahoma – all white; Chicago's Daley Plaza – all white; Santa Barbara County, California – all white (with the exception of the guy at the mic, who appears to be Fox News' poster boy crooner in favor of the protests, Lloyd Marcus); St. Louis – all white. You get the drift. When you are out of power and have no ideas, voila, Tea Parties.
Some said there were some non-whites there: Sighted at the rallies were:
Larry Elder, Ron Christie, Angela McGlowan. Jason Whitlock, Jesse Lee Peterson aka Sambo, Armstrong Williams, Clarence Thomas, Thomas Sowell, Gary Franks, Alan Keyes and Michael Steele. The Grand Wizard is Sean Hannity.
Send your Secret Service to arrest and mointor activities of racists and skin heads in the Tea party or other republirat events such as the NRA.

Posted by: sherardg | April 15, 2009 10:19 AM | Report abuse

"If it appear that some on tis blog site are new (like me) it is because there has been nothing this big nationwide to date that has been totally ignored by the press;"

If it was that "big," it wouldn't be "ignored by the press." That's the part you don't get. You people have been complaining about the "lack of coverage" for this "event" for weeks.

Let's be real real here. You're going to google news, searching "tea parties," and auto-posting responses in all forums that will let you. Just like that "Reganite Republican" guy who accidentally atuo-poated the same thing twice.

Posted by: VTDuffman | April 15, 2009 10:18 AM | Report abuse

SUSPECT BIG BROTHER INTERNET / TELECOM SPYING AND MALICIOUS INTERFERENCE...

...USING YOUR TELECOMMUNICATIONS TO HARASS AND CENSOR YOU?


Can't seem to access, or post to, certain web sites -- especially, political sites?

When you do post, are typos, spelling errors and other anomalies appearing in your comments -- even though you carefully proofread the submission?

You could be the unwitting victim of government "fusion centers" that apparently are using internet "filtering" technology to censor and maliciously tamper with the telecommunications of "targeted" persons.

Please see this running account of an apparently "targeted" journalist and his quest to exercise his First Amendment right of free speech, and his Fourth Amendment right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures of telecommunications.

http://blog.aclu.org/2009/01/26/internet-filters-voluntary-ok-not-government-mandate

Then demand that American Civil Liberties Union renew its fight against warrantless government spying by filing a class-action suit against unconstitutional interference with personal and business telecommunications.

Recently, while reading the ACLU blog, this reporter learned of the Bush-Cheney "doctrine" of "ideological exclusion" -- apparently used to bar political "activists" from abroad from visiting the United States.

Could authoritarian bureaucrats be using this doctrine as a justification to censor political speech in this country?

If you suspect the answer is "yes," please add your account to the free speech thread cited above!

http://nowpublic.com/world/govt-fusion-center-spying-pretext-harass-and-censor

OR:

http://NowPublic.com/scrivener

Posted by: scrivener50 | April 15, 2009 10:18 AM | Report abuse

And to all the people who are making Obama out to be mainstream conformist machine operation, please ask yourself this question.

Did you know who Barack Obama was 6 years ago? The answer is NO.

Obama being elected president was the greatest grassroots story in a loooong time. This teabag thing would not be up to par with an early Obama event in 2007.

Obama's grassroots story is everthing you guys wish this was. Obama was by the people and for the people.

Posted by: tallertapas311 | April 15, 2009 10:18 AM | Report abuse

"Nothing more than a bunch of undereducated neo-nazis joining forces with the embittered lunatic fringe that has yet to come to terms with America's sound rejection of GOP policies. These teabagging buffoons are representative of the very worst our country has to offer"


Yeah, protesting is bad.

We should outlaw protesting the government.

Let's arrest them all before they do it.

Posted by: grunk | April 15, 2009 10:18 AM | Report abuse

FighterDC,
The GOP hijacked the Tea parties. If you look at all the Ron Paul people who helped start this sort of thing, they are gone. Teabagging is mainstream and very GOP.

The GOP needs ideas. Someonelse had this idea and they jacked it.

I agree with others, its grassroots when nobody covers it.

Posted by: tallertapas311 | April 15, 2009 10:15 AM | Report abuse

"I am very disappointed in media coverage of this event."

I'm not, yet. Someone responded to this in a chat earlier this week: Basically, there's no "event" to cover. Who knows how many of these parties actually happen, who knows how many people actually show up. If something happens worth covering, it'll get covered - but right now it's all partisan politics hype on both sides.

Posted by: VTDuffman | April 15, 2009 10:15 AM | Report abuse

Nothing more than a bunch of undereducated neo-nazis joining forces with the embittered lunatic fringe that has yet to come to terms with America's sound rejection of GOP policies. These teabagging buffoons are representative of the very worst our country has to offer.

Posted by: hiberniantears | April 15, 2009 10:11 AM | Report abuse

If it appear that some on tis blog site are new (like me) it is because there has been nothing this big nationwide to date that has been totally ignored by the press; this "column" was the only one within the Washington Post community that even gave it any press at all. You should welcome new bloggers and not consider them a part of some conspiracy in the blogosphere, like the work done by Acorn or the mass mailings in the last campaign. Some of us find new writers/columns by searching for a specific topic, especially when ignored by our hometown newspaper (I subscribe to the paper home delivery edition of the Washington Post as well, archaic as that sounds); I didn't like Cillizza's attitude (or that of Van Hollen's more so) but some of us who write in response really do think without having our thoughts written for us by "the community" of whatever. I was only looking for a place to send my thoughts to the Post after the disappointment of today's headlines.

Posted by: kathrynh01 | April 15, 2009 10:11 AM | Report abuse

The tea parties are another attempt by the Republicans and FOX news to rewrite history. Since no one additional dime has been removed from people's paychecks due to taxes since Obama was inaugurated, the tea party is hollow. In fact, 95% of taxpayers will see reduced taxes this month. This business of inducing pity for the 5% wealthiest Americans is ludicrous.

I would like the Republicans to stand up and present the American people with their "dream" Federal budget and how they would plan to pay for it. It is obvious that since 1981 they have paid for their budgets with deficit spending. I want to see them propose a balanced budget which sets forth their budget priorities. I want to see which programs that they want to close. You see, Republicans are all bluster and no substance.

Posted by: EarlC | April 15, 2009 10:11 AM | Report abuse

I am very disappointed in media coverage of this event. On the right, we have Fox News acting as sponsor and cheerleader. On the left, we have MSNBC's anchors trying to out-Stewart Jon Stewart with sophomoric humor. Your questions:

"So, which is it? Are these tea parties the first signs of life from the Republican base? Or a trumped-up attempt by Washington insiders to suggest there is significant opposition to Obama's spending plans?"

Could be answer by reporters doing their jobs. FACTS, please!!!!!!

Posted by: umprof | April 15, 2009 10:07 AM | Report abuse

Hint to everyone: If these events were really as "grassroots" as you say they are, you wouldn't need to say it so much.

Methinks the teabaggers doth protest too much.

Posted by: VTDuffman | April 15, 2009 10:07 AM | Report abuse

"The events are grassroots events started by regular people, many who have never been politically active before."

Exactly. Regular people like former Republican Dick Armey and his Freedomworks Lobbying Group.

Posted by: VTDuffman | April 15, 2009 10:05 AM | Report abuse

"Or a trumped-up attempt by Washington insiders to suggest there is significant opposition to Obama's spending plans?"

Where in the world was this putz last fall when everyone was up in arms over the spending. As I recall the TARP didn't pass the first time around due to this very thing.

And who the heck is Jane Hamsher?

Posted by: Hawaiian_Gecko | April 15, 2009 10:03 AM | Report abuse

"It’s not out-of-the-question that the 2009 TEA party participants could someday be regarded by history as patriots who made a difference- same as 1773."

Reganite, you cut-and-pasted this already on this board about 15 minutes ago. Please move on to cut-and-pasting this on different boards. Thanks.

Posted by: VTDuffman | April 15, 2009 10:01 AM | Report abuse

Let me clear something up for everyone...

#1. Conservatism is not synonymous with Republican.

There are many like me who are independent but conservative in principle. Reason being, republicans are not all conservative (Lindsay Graham, McCain, Arlen Spector, etc).

#2. The tea parties are BY the people. Everyday people of all parties.

They are not Republican event or even a conservative event. The events are grassroots events started by regular people, many who have never been politically active before. There was a groundswell of support by people who think our government is spending carelessely, spending too much, and taxing without regard for people or consequences.

GET IT STRAIGHT. This is an all purpose event to show frustration with the SNAFU that is our elected government. Congressman should be of the people, instead they are now career politicians serving for 30 to 40 years - Not what was intended. Politicians of both parties are beholden to special interests like business and social elites, racial advancement groups, race-based caucuses and others.

We are putting our foot down. Reminding all parties and the media that the people who should be represented, are not currently being well represented.

Posted by: fighterDC | April 15, 2009 10:01 AM | Report abuse

It’s not out-of-the-question that the 2009 TEA party participants could someday be regarded by history as patriots who made a difference- same as 1773. This sort of public outrage might be just what’s needed to break through the media’s manufactured reality.

And you can believe that Obama and the left are plenty scared of the TEA party movement- how else to explain the dubious timing of his "everything is under control" speech on the economy, and (on the same day before the protests) the DHS report warning of "right-wing" radicals and their propensity to violence? Now ACORN is being deployed to confront these protests at the street-level?

Barack Obama is rapidly liquidating everything that made this country great… and needs to be put back-on-his-heels with a major embarrassment that puts an end to the myth that everybody just loves Barack and his wacked-out agenda… because millions of us DON’T.

http://reaganiterepublicanresistance.blogspot.com/

Posted by: ReaganiteRepublican | April 15, 2009 9:58 AM | Report abuse

It's really hard for left wing Democrats to criticize left wing Democrats. That's why this column is so predictable...it's like an Obama website...lalalala, everything is beautiful now that the Democrats control everything lalalala. Wonder how long that song will last....I sang it for a very short time...guess I'm just a few steps ahead of this writer.

Posted by: hazwalnut | April 15, 2009 9:56 AM | Report abuse

The trouble is that taxes are paid by everyone, except the political classes, of either or any political ilk. The tax burden on citizens is greater than at the time of the Boston Tea Party. But the media is used to distract us from these facts. so we remain passive and compliant.

It's time for some new political realities, No matter which side of the coin your on.

Posted by: GreyGhost | April 15, 2009 9:54 AM | Report abuse

Fyi: Without the Independent vote Obama would not be in office. There are many Independents that now see Obama and Spendocrats for the danger they really are. The trillions of dollars of debt, the trillions of dollars of toxic assets being shifted from the banks to the backs of the people, the refusal to show the books on how the money is being spent is what is causing this.

Independents will not be voting for Spendocrats come 2010.

The Tea Party is a good start. Here is another step Citizens can take. Support HR 1207 to perform a long needed audit of the Federal Reserve.

http://www.ronpaul.com/on-the-issues/audit-the-federal-reserve-hr-1207/

"If you too would like to see Ben Bernanke squirm and finally discover what the Fed has been up to behind the scenes, call and write your representative and ask that they support the “Federal Reserve Transparency Act H.R. 1207″.

Capitol Switchboard: (202) 224-3121 or 1-877-851-6437

Here’s a sample letter you can use:

Dear Representative,

Please co-sponsor and/or support H.R.1207, an effort to audit the Federal Reserve.

Recently, it has come to light that there is little to no accountability to the people on the part of the Federal Reserve. While the citizens of this country are required by law to give an accounting of every penny they come in contact with, the Federal Reserve has never been held to the same standard. During this time of extreme economic crisis, the people deserve an accounting of where our money is going.

Currently there are 55 co-sponsors for this legislation, and it is enjoying bi-partisan support. Your efforts in supporting this important legislation would go a long way in proving to your constituents that you not only hold the Federal Reserve to the same standard as you do your constituents, but it would also show that you believe in transparency. Anything less than support for this resolution suggests that you are in favor of secrecy and a lack of accountability to the people who pay the bills. We pay the tab; we have a right to know where our money is going.

Unlike recent bills that you voted in favor of that had hundreds of pages and just a few hours to read, this bill can be read in under 5 minutes. I encourage you to take the time to read it, and then move to support it.

Thank you in advance for your attention on this important legislation. I have every expectation that you will do right by your constituents and support this measure.

Sincerely,"

The lack of understanding in this blog is incredible. You actually think that all of this debt is going to fall on some unseen 1 to 3% of "rich folk. Sorry. If you had not noticed every government agency from city, county, state and federal are increasing taxes, fees, penalities and every other form of tax increase they can imagine. We are going to pay for this, our children are going to pay for this, their children are going to pay for this.

See you in 2010.

Posted by: Bubbette1 | April 15, 2009 9:53 AM | Report abuse

It's hilarious to see these "grassroots" blog trollers hitting these boards. There's a lot of people who have never posted one comment on The Fix before here today. All the posts are essentially the same, too.

I can't help but wonder if someone starting making the rounds in blogs and news sites, how many of these identical posts you would see word-for-word.

Posted by: VTDuffman | April 15, 2009 9:51 AM | Report abuse

So, what's the deal? The US government (under any party) spends too much and taxes too little.

Do Republicans believe that deficits and debt can only grow?

Does the fact that China has severely curtailed buying of US treasuries, and has quietly been selling them off, raise any concerns?

Face it America, taxes have been WAY TOO LOW for a country spending money at breakneck pace on wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

With a federal debt of over $10T imposing over $700M in costs per day IN INTEREST ALONE, do you really believe that taxes can be reduced when they need to be increased?

Is anyone really looking at the impact of soc. sec. and health care entitlements over the next 40 years? That's on the order of an other $30T.

No America: taxes DO NEED TO GO UP. And just because you make a lot of money (some of you) is not "tax shelter".

Posted by: AlanBrowne | April 15, 2009 9:50 AM | Report abuse

My jaw has just dropped to the floor. I cannot believe what I am reading. I find it hard to believe the Post is posting these comments. Who has time to write such vile remarks? I came to the web site to find a place to complain to the Post for its lack of coverage of the tea parties. And I am a Democrat. These comments are embarrassing. It is no wonder that the Post is losing its subscription base. You nasty attitude people should look beyond the Beltway and get a grip. More importantly, though, you should do some reading to find out on what this country really was founded and survives. People are not happy with what is going on with this administration. I am happy people are finally waking up but I am sorry they fell asleep and let this election be stolen, all the way from the primaries when people who shouldn't have been voting (and voting and voting) chose for the rest of us the nightmare candidates we got.

The Tea Parties, if covered by the press, so that everyone can see the events across the country (including you who don't watch news beyond Jon Stewart), these tea parties should shake the Congress out of their fear to speak up and against the administration shoving legal maneuvers down their collective throats.

Posted by: kathrynh01 | April 15, 2009 9:46 AM | Report abuse

It’s not out-of-the-question that the 2009 Tea Party participants could someday be regarded by history as patriots who made a difference- same as 1773. This sort of public outrage might be just what’s needed to break through the media’s manufactured reality.

And you can believe that Obama and the left are plenty scared of the TEA party movement- how else to explain the dubious timing of his "everything is under control" speech on the economy, and (on the same day before the protests) the DHS report warning of "right-wing" radicals and their propensity to violence? Now ACORN is being deployed to confront these protests at the street-level?

Barack Obama is rapidly liquidating everything that made this country great… and needs to be put back-on-his-heels with a major embarrassment that puts an end to the myth that everybody just loves Barack and his wacked-out agenda… because millions of us DON’T.

http://reaganiterepublicanresistance.blogspot.com/

Posted by: ReaganiteRepublican | April 15, 2009 9:42 AM | Report abuse

Obama is as much of a lapdog of the bankers as was Bush.

Posted by: grunk | April 15, 2009 9:38 AM | Report abuse

"The Republicans had their chance to be the party of smaller government, responsible budgeting and responsibly lower taxes during the last 15 years. They blew it at every single opportunity. Which says to me that they don't even really care about the issue. But they are good at pulling out the words and getting people riled up for mob violence when it suits their purposes."

You've hit the nail on the head here. The biggest problem that the GOP faces is that they spend all their time out of power railing about lower taxes, fiscal responsiblity, limits on executive power, constitutionally protected rights, etc...

When given the opportunity to put their money where their mouth is, they NEVER deliver. They turn into Democrats with different goals. Then they lose power again and go back into the same spiel.

This is the biggest problem that the GOP faces today with "normal people" - no one trusts them.

The fact that they have spent the entire build-up to this tea party thing attacking liberals, pre-emptively scorning a "biased media," and defending the "actual grass-rootiness" of their cause (as opposed to the actual message, which is...I don't know, exactly - as far as I can tell they are protesting tax hikes that don't exist) speaks volumes to the fact that they haven't done anything to fix the "trust" issue.

Until they do this, they are tilting at windmills.

Posted by: VTDuffman | April 15, 2009 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Tea baggers - it is not the rich who will be out, they will be sitting back and laughing at the imbeciles who tea bag each other in protest of the rich paying 3% more in income tax and having some of their tax cheat shelters closed. Get out there in the cold and rain, assume the position, and tea bag away. The nation is laughing at you.

Posted by: John1263 | April 15, 2009 9:31 AM | Report abuse

A "rebirth" of the conservative movement? Who actually believes that except for right-wing nutjobs. A mindless anti-tax position has been part of the Republican platform for ages and is as meaningless as it ever was.

The Republicans had their chance to be the party of smaller government, responsible budgeting and responsibly lower taxes during the last 15 years. They blew it at every single opportunity. Which says to me that they don't even really care about the issue. But they are good at pulling out the words and getting people riled up for mob violence when it suits their purposes.

It reflects poorly on Cillizza and The Fix that this silly exercise in mass stupidity is even being taken seriously. It is possible to exercise critical judgement in journalism. Let's see a little more of that.

Posted by: bigbrother1 | April 15, 2009 9:28 AM | Report abuse

I guess had this been an illegal alien protest, the MSM would have thouroughly covered the event.

Posted by: grunk | April 15, 2009 9:28 AM | Report abuse

A bunch of morons, or equivalently, republicans.

Posted by: johng1 | April 15, 2009 9:27 AM | Report abuse

We are in a terrible recession. Families are literally homeless and hungry. So what do these "conservatives" do? They pour massive amounts of expensive Arizona Ice Tea into the river. Fox and company really need to hire some new PR people because they are not making new friends with this stunt. More solidifying of the base, Palin-style, at best. Good luck with that.

Posted by: washingtonpost31 | April 15, 2009 9:24 AM | Report abuse

I wonder if Chris is in on the tea bagging joke?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Tea-Bag

Posted by: Corn_Laden | April 15, 2009 9:23 AM | Report abuse

The right wing will be enjoying their Tea Bagging parties in men's airport restrooms all over America today.

Posted by: VeloStrummer | April 15, 2009 9:21 AM | Report abuse

"You can't imagine that we think for ourselves and are not just puppets being manipulated by corporations?"

You may not think of yourselves as this, but your support of these "tea parties" speaks otherwise.

Posted by: VTDuffman | April 15, 2009 9:20 AM | Report abuse

The fact is that today's news cycle will be about people lining up to file their taxes at 9 pm. Their will also be stories about how many people are filing online this year, and poeple who have to pay taxes even though they got laid off,...etc. And then maybe you will hear about these tea parties.

These types of 'tactics' are just JV. President Obama has run a very serious White House and is a very serious presence. If the GOP wants to counter that then they need to start acting serious themselves. This childish tea party stunt is not going to win over the independents who voted for the Democrats in droves last year. For that the GOP will need a real alternative plan.

Posted by: AndyR3 | April 15, 2009 9:20 AM | Report abuse

falltillfly- " average American citizens. Hardworking people from all kinds of different backgrounds and political affiliations who don't want to see their hard-earned money swept away by Obama and his massive government spending (oh, I mean stimulus) plan."

what are you talking about? right, "average hard working Americans" who are finally going to get a fairer shake from tax cuts and may possibly get access to health insurance not linked to their off-shored job, and who might get some extended unemployment assistance - now that they've been laid off - they're going to protest Obama's budget and stimulus finally cutting off a little of the corporate and wealthy people welfare that your party favors. oh please.

you and your right wing idiot-shill network are delusional. these 'tea parties' are a fabrication of the right wing machine - regular working people aren't angry at Obama - they're angry at the gop and the fat cats they support killing our economy with their greed and offshoring the same 'working people's' jobs. I can't wait to see the coverage of sparsely attended parties - and the coverage to come of the right wing machine bussing phonies to the rallies - it'll be the same machine that flooded florida with delay and armey staffers and other operatives in 2000 to steal that election.

the only problem for you now is - the people have awakened from their rove induced stupor - and there is anger - but it was expressed in the last two elections - and it was against the gop.

the only average hard working americans you people have on your side are the zealots and the bigots - because you get them all ginned up against gays and for the right to have your gun in a restaurant or rec center - in other words the bitters.

you and your party are dissolving before our eyes. buh bye.

Posted by: IwillkickyourrightwingA | April 15, 2009 9:17 AM | Report abuse

You are all so angry, why is that? Such hatred and venom coming from the left. Is it because you can't stand that right wingers generally just want to live and let live? You can't imagine that we think for ourselves and are not just puppets being manipulated by corporations? That thought scares you, doesn't it? But that's the way it is; conservatives just want to go to work, earn a living, keep their families happy and healthy, and do unto others...

So why does this make you angry? Because its not 'fair' according to you? Because some people have more stuff than you and that's not fair? Because conservatives would rather donate money to their choice causes than have the government take and spend it as they please? Because conservatives donate far more per year than liberals (who appear to be all talk, no action)? Maybe because conservatives are happier than liberals, and that just p*sses you off, huh?

Posted by: falltillfly | April 15, 2009 9:13 AM | Report abuse

"Good Lord, you people are stupid! You think it's the wealthy, the 'fat cats' who are going out to protest today? Sure, there may be some, but for the most part it will be average American citizens"

Interesting that everyone is "stupid" except the people you describe, who are protesting for what -- having their taxes cut? A stimulus plan that's working? A President and First Lady the world actually loves instead of despises?

In all actuality, it's not about taxes. It's not even about tea bagging, although I could imagine no activity more fitting. It's about being so dejected since losing the last two elections with no prospect, no leadership save Limbaugh and Fox to turn this around.

It's about watching how the entire planet embraces our current President after so despising the arrogant undereducated cowboy he replaced.

It's a way of working through their shame by turning out and giving each other support, like the Council of Conservative Citizens, Stormfront, and the NRA.

Happy tea bagging, there, Einstein.

Posted by: dgblues | April 15, 2009 9:12 AM | Report abuse

Gallup polls indicate that Americans understand the need for taxes at higher level than for many many years. I believe people realize that there is a correlation between taxes and desirable federal programs that benefit people who want our country to be safe, want clean food, air and water, want a reasonably fair economic system, want health care, good education, and new sources of energy.

Posted by: cdierd1944 | April 15, 2009 9:11 AM | Report abuse

Newbeeboy said;

"If 95% are getting tax reductions..how can 5% stage a rebellion?"

Unfortunately that is possible because we have folks that can't believe how vulnerable they are.

Everyone out there today protesting taxes has a tax cut already. They've been manipulated to complain about President Obama's plan to put the tax rates where they were under Clinton, still below where they were under Reagan...their great tax cutting God.

Tax cuts for the wealthy have beggered the Nation, and they can't see that. Roads, schools and energy mean far more to the working poor than they do to the rich.

They are being exploited to make numbers for the republicans to try to hate their way back into office.

Posted by: dutchess2 | April 15, 2009 9:06 AM | Report abuse


ignorance- (god, what a perfect handle you chose)

by those everyday working people - you mean the ones that have been laid off due to corporate greed and offshoring - the same ones that will be losing their health care - because in our great system paying for medical treatment is tied to having a job. the same ones your party leaders are denying extra federal unempolyment assistance to???? what a maroon.

you don't get it do you? the canard of 'soros liberal hate groups' is laughable - what are you talking about??? please go stay at fox news, etc. to blather on right wing talking points while your etremist greedy party fades into oblivion.

you and your party are of by and for fat cats and people who are either small minded and bigoted (so blinded to voting against their own self interests by 'cultural issues' - or they are inheritors of their daddy's wealth, power, position or stature - and they don't want anyone else to take a sliver of their piece of the pie that was handed to them.

enjoy the dissolution of your pathetic party. buh bye.

Posted by: IwillkickyourrightwingA | April 15, 2009 9:04 AM | Report abuse

No, we don't think it's the wealthy actually going out there, but they are using you as usual to fight their cause. Whose taxes are going up? Theirs. You think Rick Santelli really cares about the "little guy?"

Maybe I would understand where you were coming from if you had shown SOME dissent over the last 8 years when Bush was spending more than any other IN HISTORY (and mostly on foreign issues - not on domestic issues). But no. It was "unpatriotic" to question him, and all us liberals hate freedom. What a crock.

Posted by: scout_wife | April 15, 2009 8:57 AM | Report abuse

Its not a TEA PARTY, its a KKK Rally hijacked by FOX and folks like Sean Hannity. Yesterday (4/14/09), the Washington Times broke a story about a Department of Homeland Security report that warns of a rise in "right-wing extremist activity." Instead of investigating the report and its implications, Sean Hannity, who has a history of cozying up to a white supremacist - exactly the kind of extremist the report focused on - used it as an excuse to launch the same kind of inflammatory rhetoric DHS was concerned about.The report warns: "The current economic and political climate has some similarities to the 1990s when rightwing extremism experienced a resurgence fueled largely by an economic recession, criticism about the outsourcing of jobs, and the perceived threat to
U.S. power and sovereignty by other foreign powers." On the next page, the report finds, "The historical election of
an African American president and the prospect of policy changes are proving to be a driving force for rightwing extremist recruitment and radicalization."
The white supremacist, a man named Hal Turner in 2005, sat before his computer at his suburban home in North Bergen, New Jersey, posting bomb-making tips on his website, hailing the firebombing of an apartment containing "Savage Negroes" and calling for the murder of immigrants. "When enough illegal aliens get killed they will stop coming to the country!" Turner wrote. Turner was once a prominent activist in New Jersey's Republican Party. To area conservatives, he was best known by his moniker for call-ins to the Sean Hannity Show, "Hal from North Bergen." For years, Hannity offered his top-rated radio show as a regular forum for Turner's occasionally racist, always over-the-top rants. Hannity also chatted with him off-air, allegedly offering encouragement to Turner as he struggled to overcome a cocaine habit and homosexual leanings. Turner has boasted that Hannity once invited Turner and his son on to the set of Fox News's Hannity and Colmes. Today, Turner lurks on the fringes of the far right, spouting hate-laced tirades on his webcast radio show. Hannity, meanwhile, remains mum about his former alliance with the neo-Nazi, homing in instead on the supposed racism of black and Latino Democrats.

Posted by: sherardg | April 15, 2009 8:55 AM | Report abuse

Hey Tea Baggers!
Don't forget to bring your stuffed MONKEY toys to the Big Event. (Like that moron at the big Palin rally!)
Just wave that monkey in the air. You don't have to say a thing.
We'll know what you're saying!

Posted by: TOMHERE | April 15, 2009 8:55 AM | Report abuse

Just gotta say, in response to Chris' endorsement of Pandora.com:

This is one amazing music app, an efficient and customized way to experience "de-homogenized" genres of music.

Try creating a "Bunker Hill" channel if you like primitive rock 'n' roll, or a Roy Acuff channel if you fancy "roots" country music.

And note the way hip advertisers are using Pandora to cut through the clutter while not intruding on the product itself.

But how long will the record companies tolerate a service that obviates the need to actually BUY the music?

***

Posted by: scrivener50 | April 15, 2009 8:52 AM | Report abuse

Good Lord, you people are stupid! You think it's the wealthy, the 'fat cats' who are going out to protest today? Sure, there may be some, but for the most part it will be average American citizens. Hardworking people from all kinds of different backgrounds and political affiliations who don't want to see their hard-earned money swept away by Obama and his massive government spending (oh, I mean stimulus) plan.

And by the way, no one is calling it tea bagging except you pathetic little democrats trying to find some way to insult the conservatives, thinking they don't know what that means. Lame.

Posted by: falltillfly | April 15, 2009 8:51 AM | Report abuse

Good Lord, you people are stupid! You think it's the wealthy, the 'fat cats' who are going out to protest today? Sure, there may be some, but for the most part it will be average American citizens. Hardworking people from all kinds of different backgrounds and political affiliations who don't want to see their hard-earned money swept away by Obama and his massive government spending (oh, I mean stimulus) plan.

And by the way, no one is calling it tea bagging except you pathetic little democrats trying to find some way to insult the conservatives, thinking they don't know what that means. Lame.

Posted by: falltillfly | April 15, 2009 8:49 AM | Report abuse

Newt "The Fornicator" Gingrich is a PATHETIC LOSER.

Posted by: TOMHERE | April 15, 2009 8:47 AM | Report abuse

Unpatriotic jerks. Taxes keep the government working...who do you think pays the SEAL's who rescued the captain from pirates? The Border Patrol officers who guard our border? The air traffic controllers who keep our transportation system safe?

Conservatives want bigger government, they just want bigger government in liberals bedrooms.

Posted by: anarcho-liberal-tarian | April 15, 2009 8:39 AM | Report abuse

Unpatriotic jerks. Taxes keep the government working...who do you think pays the SEAL's who rescued the captain from pirates? The Border Patrol officers who guard our border? The air traffic controllers who keep our transportation system safe?

Conservatives want bigger government, they just want bigger government in liberals bedrooms.

Posted by: anarcho-liberal-tarian | April 15, 2009 8:39 AM | Report abuse

sean is frothy. He is getting repeatedly tea bagged today. He wants all his loyal unthinking listeners to get out there and protests their lords and masters having their taxes increased 3%. Getting rubes to potest against policies that will lower their own taxes, help put their kids in college, policies that will reduce our oil dependencey, policies that will improve our access to and quality of health care. Yep. That is worth taking the day off work for a good tea bagging. Frothy. Quvering and sweaty in anticipation of their communal tea bagging. Rubes.

Posted by: John1263 | April 15, 2009 8:37 AM | Report abuse

POOH-POOHING THE TEABAGGERS IS A STRATEGIC BLUNDER THAT ONLY MAKES THE CRITICS LOOK ELITIST.

OBAMA SHOULD TO FURTHER TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE ANGER, LIKE ANTONY COMING TO 'PRAISE CAESAR, NOT TO BURY HIM'...

...IN SO DOING, DISARMING JUSTIFIABLE ANGER AND CHANNELING IT INTO SUPPORT OF ECONOMIC JUSTICE FOR ALL.


Same goes for mainstream media, which can't rid itself of the temptation to invoke double-entendre and a thinly-veiled contempt for those who dare to question what does look like excessive government intrusion into what used to be private enterprise.

These are legitimate concerns. By dismissing these concerns as the ranting of lunatics, the Dem establishment risks coming off as the elitists, the protectors of corporate privilege -- when the facts would tend to argue that laissez-faire GOP economic policies led the nation to economic ruin.


***

URGENT TO:

Attorney General Eric Holder
DHS Sec. Napolitano
DoD Sec. Gates
Treas. Sec. Geithner
DNI Dennis Blair, DNI Inspector General-designate Roslyn Mazer
Rahm Emanuel. David Axelrod, Jay Carney, White House
(staffs, please forward)


INNOCENT BUT TARGETED.


Google it.


YOU -- or someone close to you -- could be the next victim.


Unless Team Obama takes down the draconian Bush-Cheney extrajudicial punishment network...


...an array of secret "programs of personal financial destruction" and a government-funded army of citizen vigilante "community gang stalkers"... using the GPS satellite system to hunt and harass human prey (with the full knowledge of law enforcement)...


...coupled with the proliferation of mind- and body-degrading "directed energy" microwave radiation weapons -- the Zyklon B of a grassroots, military/intel- enabled civilian American Gestapo. These federal programs and policies have corrupted local law enforcement nationwide, allowing vigilante injustice to rule the streets.


Attorney General Holder, you must act NOW to restore human and civil rights in America.


Before the naivete of liberals empowers the saboteurs and Dr. Strangeloves who say "No!" to change.


Where is the civil rights division investigation that victims have demanded?


Or is there "nothing to investigate" -- because the government already knows all about this?

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/gestapo-usa-govt-funded-vigilante-network-terrorizes-america
http://nowpublic.com/world/govt-fusion-center-spying-pretext-harass-and-censor
http://NowPublic.com/scrivener

Posted by: scrivener50 | April 15, 2009 8:36 AM | Report abuse

conservatives are funny. They think publicly tea bagging each other in funny costumes is relevant. The tiny group of filthy rich who have gamed the tax system so they can cheat their way out of paying for what they benefit from have conned some real idiots into thinking that a public tea bagging to protest having your taxes lowered and having responsible policies is a good idea. What a bunch of suckers.

For a history lessons - the British LOWERED taxes on tea. Americans were protesting the British cutting American merchants out of the tea trade. So these imbeciles are using an economic protests as the backdrop for thei tax protest. What fools. And the Tea Party did not spark the revolution. It was British REACTION to the Tea Party that pushed American over the edge. Gently mocking those who tea bag each other will not be the equivelent of the Intolerable Acts.

Posted by: John1263 | April 15, 2009 8:30 AM | Report abuse

conservatives are funny. They think publicly tea bagging each other in funny costumes is relevant. The tiny group of filthy rich who have gamed the tax system so they can cheat their way out of paying for what they benefit from have conned some real idiots into thinking that a public tea bagging to protest having your taxes lowered and having responsible policies is a good idea. What a bunch of suckers.

For a history lessons - the British LOWERED taxes on tea. Americans were protesting the British cutting American merchants out of the tea trade. So these imbeciles are using an economic protests as the backdrop for thei tax protest. What fools. And the Tea Party did not spark the revolution. It was British REACTION to the Tea Party that pushed American over the edge. Gently mocking those who tea bag each other will not be the equivelent of the Intolerable Acts.

Posted by: John1263 | April 15, 2009 8:30 AM | Report abuse

I'm curious, will these "tea parties" champion the cause of DC voting rights? My understanding of the American revolutionary cause was that it had something to do with taxation AND a lack of representation. I'm not sure, but I'll go out on a limb and guess that most of the folks organizing and attending these modern tea parties had a vote, exercised it, and their guy lost. Then, the democratically elected leaders of our country voted to pass Obama's stimulus bill. So, the Republicans aren't happy that they lost the election, and they aren't happy that they no longer control Congress. No big surprise they are using it as an excuse to protest. Still, it would be nice if they were honest about it. If they are going to wrap themselves in the cloak of American revolutionary fervor, they should champion voting rights for those of us who still ARE taxed WITHOUT representation. Otherwise, they cheapen the American revolution by reducing it to a simple tax revolt divorced from the important issue of political representation in decision-making bodies. What a bunch of cry babies!

Posted by: zubitsdad | April 15, 2009 8:29 AM | Report abuse

TAX TEA PARTY!!! Foolishness... They would do better to BURN their CREDIT CARDS!

Posted by: demtse | April 15, 2009 8:27 AM | Report abuse

drindl - My name is a commentary on your intellect. If you would look into George Soros, and the lunatic liberals that he backs, and the amount of money that is pumped into radical liberal politicians pockets, then I would give you some credit. You are a biased one sided liberal fool, that probably is being paid by one of the George Soros funded HATE Groups.

The Tea Parties today will be attended by normal everyday working class citizens, that are fed up with the unbridled spending that has been put into place by the Liberal Extremist Democrat Leadership. Democrats, Republicans, Independents, and others, that are just normal citizens will be taking time off of work to go out today, and say enough is enough. It really won't matter to the megalomaniac lifers in office though, and I wouldn't think that any liberal fanatics would be for it either. But it is going to happen anyway, so get over it you liberal haters.

Normal Democrats, Republicans, Independents, and Others, are going to do it anyway.

Posted by: ignoranceisbliss | April 15, 2009 8:24 AM | Report abuse

I can't wait to see the poor and biased news coverage these Tea Parties will get across the nation.

10 or 20 Liberals show up some where and you would think that there was a Revolution.

Thousands and Thousands + Citizens of all parties show up at various locations, mainly to complain about the direction of the Government on spending, and the Liberal lunatics will deny it ever happened, or that it was some fluke. How could anyone not like the Obama. Well Liberal fools, I am having some gut pains, so I think I will go take an Obama, and get it out of my system.

Posted by: ignoranceisbliss | April 15, 2009 8:13 AM | Report abuse

ignoranceisbliss wrote "It isn't a Conservative Movement. The Tea Party's include citizens that are Democrats, Republicans, Independents, and others."

No, it's a Timothy McVeigh movement. McVeigh, that great libertarian and tax protester, agrees completely with you.

You can tell a man's character by the company he keeps. That applies to the freeloading deadbeat tax protester movement as well.

Posted by: Garak | April 15, 2009 8:09 AM | Report abuse

These "tea parties" are less a wave of populist anger at Obama than they are a bizarre and potentially dangerous push for conservative insurrection by none other than Fox News.

Didn't they call Bush bashing "treason" only a few months ago? What about this incendiary political stunt?

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: parkerfl1 | April 15, 2009 8:07 AM | Report abuse

"ignorance'' you are well named.

Posted by: drindl | April 15, 2009 8:04 AM | Report abuse

"The right wing and Fox News are trying to paint tomorrow’s tea party protests as an organic uprising, when they are in fact being spearheaded by high-powered business interests. Now, organizers are doling out generous financial incentives to publicize the tea parties. In a Facebook message today, Erik Telford of Americans For Prosperity told supporters, “I wanted to make you aware of an opportunity. Americans for Prosperity Foundation and Heritage Foundation have teamed up to launch the Stop Spending Our Future project, which offers four contests and $5,000 in prizes“:

1) Spread the Word| Capture the stories of five people at one of the Taxpayer Tea Parties happening all over the nation on Tax Day, April 15. The person that captures the best testimonial will receive $1,000.

2) Make a Video| What’s your biggest frustration about the government’s appetite for more spending in the midst of the tough economic climate? The top 5 submissions will each receive a prize in the amount of $500.

3) Write a Letter | Explain how you feel about the debt via a letter that your child, grandchild, or great-grandchild will open 30 years from now? The top 5 submissions will each receive a prize in the amount of $250.

4) Give It a Name| Convey the threat of government over-spending and/or excessive debt using 10 words or less. The single best idea-as voted on by visitors to this website-will receive $250 and be the basis for a new video.

“Stop Spending Our Future” has also launched a promotional video using young children decrying the “Troubled Assets Relief Programs” and other “bailouts.”

Posted by: drindl | April 15, 2009 8:03 AM | Report abuse

"The right wing and Fox News are trying to paint tomorrow’s tea party protests as an organic uprising, when they are in fact being spearheaded by high-powered business interests. Now, organizers are doling out generous financial incentives to publicize the tea parties. In a Facebook message today, Erik Telford of Americans For Prosperity told supporters, “I wanted to make you aware of an opportunity. Americans for Prosperity Foundation and Heritage Foundation have teamed up to launch the Stop Spending Our Future project, which offers four contests and $5,000 in prizes“:

1) Spread the Word| Capture the stories of five people at one of the Taxpayer Tea Parties happening all over the nation on Tax Day, April 15. The person that captures the best testimonial will receive $1,000.

2) Make a Video| What’s your biggest frustration about the government’s appetite for more spending in the midst of the tough economic climate? The top 5 submissions will each receive a prize in the amount of $500.

3) Write a Letter | Explain how you feel about the debt via a letter that your child, grandchild, or great-grandchild will open 30 years from now? The top 5 submissions will each receive a prize in the amount of $250.

4) Give It a Name| Convey the threat of government over-spending and/or excessive debt using 10 words or less. The single best idea-as voted on by visitors to this website-will receive $250 and be the basis for a new video.

“Stop Spending Our Future” has also launched a promotional video using young children decrying the “Troubled Assets Relief Programs” and other “bailouts.”

Posted by: drindl | April 15, 2009 8:03 AM | Report abuse

drindl - How about some commentary on George Soros, and all of the Liberal Extremist backed lobbyists, and political action committees.

drindl - I didn't see the article mention Freedomworks anywhere. I might have to look into this fine organization.

Posted by: ignoranceisbliss | April 15, 2009 8:03 AM | Report abuse

Five percent of 300 million people is pretty big, but not as big as the overwhelming landslide of Mr. Obama, who took office, what, 85 days ago?

The bloviators need to shut up and take their sycophants with them. Faux News, Michael Savage, Rush Limbaugh, etc.

Send them to Gitmo.

Yeagh!

Posted by: bs2004 | April 15, 2009 8:03 AM | Report abuse

It isn't a Conservative Movement. The Tea Party's include citizens that are Democrats, Republicans, Independents, and others.

There are no Tax cuts with Obama. Unless he pulls a Bill Clinton and say I lowered taxes before I raised them. "I was for it before I was against it". Remember that idiocy.

The truth is most Working Class American Citizens favor controlled spending in Washington. The focus should be on effective and efficient management, and not throwing Trillions of Dollars into the Government Machine to be wasted.

Go out today rain or shine, and show your non-partisan support for more responsible, efficient Government.

To Democrats that don't like the most recent government trends, there are many more like you that will be at the Tea Parties across this Nation Today.

To the Liberal fool that wrote this article, it is not about one party or another. It is about what America stands for and that we need to halt, the poor mismangement that has plauged the nation both under the Previous Republican Administration, and under the current Liberal Extremist Democrat Leadership.

Posted by: ignoranceisbliss | April 15, 2009 7:59 AM | Report abuse

"Or a trumped-up attempt by Washington insiders to suggest there is significant opposition to Obama's spending plans?"

Fox News and 'FreedomWorks' are behind the whole shoddy business -- we'll see whether their puppets come out or not. They probably, they're going at doing the wealthy's bidding:

"The leader of FreedomWorks, Dick Armey, who is ranked as one of DC’s top “hired guns,” is a corporate lobbyist with a history of directing FreedomWorks to support the goals of his lobbying clients. For example:

– Armey’s FreedomWorks is actively organizing against health care reform. Indeed, Armey’s lobbying firm represents pharmaceutical companies, such as Bristol-Myers Squibb, that oppose comparative effectiveness research in the health reform plan because such a program may cut into revenue for branded drugs.

– Armey’s lobbying firm represents the trade group for the life insurance industry. Indeed, FreedomWorks mobilizes its members for deregulated life insurance reform.

– Currently, FreedomWorks is focusing their energy activism on supporting the status quo reliance on fossil fuels. In addition to working for various domestic oil companies with a vested interest in opposing change, Armey’s lobbying firm represents Sheikh Mohammed Bin Rashid Al Maktoum, Prime Minister of the UAE, on energy related issues such as maintaining the U.S.-UAE relationship where “U.S companies have played major roles in the development of UAE energy resources, which represent about 10 percent of global oil reserves.”

– In 2006, Armey’s lobbying firm represented the Senado de Republica (Mexican Senate) on “enhancing U.S.-Mexico relations,” and specifically on immigration policy. Curiously, during the same period, Armey’s Freedom Works stood out as one of the few right wing organizations to boldly support comprehensive immigration reform."

Posted by: drindl | April 15, 2009 7:54 AM | Report abuse

If 95% are getting tax reductions..how can 5% stage a rebellion?

Posted by: newbeeboy | April 15, 2009 7:30 AM | Report abuse

The con is on. The wealthy are rebelling today. No increased taxes on their ill gotten gains. Look for models in "tea" backs to be throwing their suits into the harbor.
The crap never stops.

Posted by: seemstome | April 15, 2009 6:36 AM | Report abuse

The comments to this entry are closed.

 
 
RSS Feed
Subscribe to The Post

© 2010 The Washington Post Company