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40

That's the percentage of conservatives who believe the Senate should not confirm judge Sonia Sotomayor to the U.S. Supreme Court, according to new data in the Washington Post-ABC News poll.

That number demonstrates the bind many Republican Senators -- particularly those who represent states with significant Hispanic constituencies -- find themselves in as the vote approaches. (The Senate Judiciary Committee has scheduled the Sotomayor vote for next Tuesday.)

On the one hand, a significant portion of the Republican base is adamantly opposed to Sotomayor, and believe she is unfit to be a justice due to her "wise Latina" remark and her now-famous/infamous comment that policy gets made at the appellate court level.

On the other, a vote against Sotomayor would almost certainly be seen as a slap in the face to the Latino community to whom Sotomayor, the first Hispanic to be nominated to the country's highest court, is something of a hero.

The difficult position that this nomination has put Republicans in was on full display during last week's confirmation hearings as GOP Senators like Lindsey Graham (S.C.), Chuck Grassley (Iowa) and even John Cornyn (Texas), the head of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, yo-yoed between an aggressive questioning of Sotomayor's credentials and praise of her resume.

To date, four Republican Senators -- Mel Martinez (Fla.), Dick Lugar (Ind.), Olympia Snowe (Me.) and Susan Collins (Me.) -- have come out in favor of confirmation.

The White House would love for Sotomayor to come in somewhere between the 58 votes that Justice Samuel Alito received and the 78 that Chief Justice John Roberts received.

To get to 70 votes, Senate Democrats would need to pluck between 10 and 12 Republicans -- depending on whether ailing Sens. Robert Byrd (West Va.) and Ted Kennedy (Mass.) are able to vote.

Need a few Senators to keep an eye on? Grassley and Graham -- both of whom are on the Judiciary Committee -- could open the door for other wavering Republicans if they back Sotomayor next Tuesday.

Also, watch Sens. Saxby Chambliss (Ga.), Johnny Isakson (Ga.), Bob Corker (Tenn.), Lamar(!) Alexander (Tenn.) and Richard Burr (N.C.) -- all of whom represent states that have experience rapid growth in their Latino communities this decade.

By Chris Cillizza  |  July 21, 2009; 2:30 PM ET
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"40% of conservatives" is a meaningless number in this issue, as 40% (or more) of conservatives will object to anyone Obama nominates to the Supreme Court.

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Not only will they object, but all their objections will be superlatives. The worst, the most, the gravest.

And they will lie, and lie, and lie.

And the base will gnash their remaining teeth, will scream in rage, will promise a backlash (real soon now), will write letters to editors, will send money to their own unhinged politicians.

Why do we even pay attention to them anymore? They're all the same now.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 22, 2009 1:19 AM | Report abuse

All Liebermann cares about is Israel

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 22, 2009 1:13 AM | Report abuse

I wish Lieberman would vote against her like he votes against health care reform.
This guy is useless to the Democrats.

Posted by: seemstome | July 22, 2009 12:50 AM | Report abuse

Chris,

Whilst Judge Sotomayor might well have been more forthcoming (although why should she have been as all the nomminees since Bork have conducted similar 'Kabuki Dances'?),

Conservatives who vote against her do so at their (political) peril, however 'safe' their seats are.

Senator Sessions, the demographics even of Alabama my change in your lifetime!

Posted by: sverigegrabb | July 21, 2009 11:07 PM | Report abuse

What a trivial, meaningless number that is! What you been smoking, Chris?

Posted by: turningfool | July 21, 2009 10:35 PM | Report abuse

"40% of conservatives" is a meaningless number in this issue, as 40% (or more) of conservatives will object to anyone Obama nominates to the Supreme Court. It won't matter what the nominee's race, gender, legal history, weight or height are -- conservatives will object just because they've been nominated by a Democratic president.

Over 40% of liberals probably objected to Scalia, Thomas, Roberts and Alito, and look where it got them.

Posted by: Gallenod | July 21, 2009 9:41 PM | Report abuse

"Florida: same number of non-Latino white voters went GOP in '08 as in '04, but it went blue in '08. Latinos made up the difference."

One other thing to keep in mind is that McCain was probably one of the better Republicans for netting Latino votes. I know quite a few looked favorably for his relatively soft stance on immigration in comparison to many of his contemporaries who wanted to build a wall and ship the basterds out. I doubt the next Republican candidate will have the Latino support that McCain got.

Posted by: DDAWD | July 21, 2009 8:05 PM | Report abuse

"On the one hand, a significant portion of the Republican base is adamantly opposed to Sotomayor...."
_________
Who cares?

I saw some of "the base" (great MSM euphemism) in action on TV the other day. It was a small GOP gathering and the speaker was interrupted by BHO birther, an old bag who started screaming about how BHO wasn't an American and taking back the America (the usual hate group code words and dog whistles).

She then demanded everyone in the room recite the Pledge of Allegiance...and those backwoods cretins actually obeyed her silly self. It went down from there. Security was called...The End

Posted by: broadwayjoe | July 21, 2009 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Florida: same number of non-Latino white voters went GOP in '08 as in '04, but it went blue in '08. Latinos made up the difference.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 21, 2009 6:51 PM
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BHO also found 200,000 black voters who tried to vote in 2004 but were disenfranchised. But I agree with DDawd, TX is in play, the demographic shifts down there are incredible and growing (reconquista, dude). It'll be interesting to see how hardcore GOPers Hutchison and Cornyn vote.

The mainstream media does not have a clue (because none of them habla espanol) how badly the GOP's treatment of Judge Sonia played in the Spanish language media. The MSM's failure to appreciate Judge Sonia's iconic status in the Latino community is tunnel vision in the extreme.

I've only seen a couple of legit data-based analyses on the likely demographics in 2012. (No, not Rasmussen--who I guess still thinks BHO lost.) But the few I read said if each demographic breaks exactly the way it did in 2004 (whites, blacks, young, old, etc.), it's BHO by a landslide--no matter what happens to the economy or anything else.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | July 21, 2009 7:37 PM | Report abuse

I do think it will be in play, but not enough for it to go blue. Still, if Republicans have to play defense there, they are in big trouble.

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IIRC, Texas went GOP by 12% last time; this next time it'll still go GOP but probably only by 3%.

Florida: same number of non-Latino white voters went GOP in '08 as in '04, but it went blue in '08. Latinos made up the difference.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 21, 2009 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Ah, Black Label! The very name conjures up fond memories of my penurious late teens.

Posted by: nodebris | July 21, 2009 6:42 PM | Report abuse

"The most common name given to male infants in Texas is "José." With the GOP making fun of Sotoamayor's accent, Texas is now "in play.""

I do think it will be in play, but not enough for it to go blue. Still, if Republicans have to play defense there, they are in big trouble.

Posted by: DDAWD | July 21, 2009 6:31 PM | Report abuse

"I mean, they could at least give me the option of buying my own tactical fighter, but noooooo, it's a single-payer military, mandatory."

hahahahaha

Posted by: DDAWD | July 21, 2009 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Now THAT would be fun. I think Texas was the only red state in 2008 with more than 15 EV.

I don't think it will happen, but its a pleasant thought.

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The most common name given to male infants in Texas is "José." With the GOP making fun of Sotoamayor's accent, Texas is now "in play."

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 21, 2009 6:17 PM | Report abuse

You got a problem with Pabst Blue Ribbon (voted America's best beer in 1894)?

==

Every double-blind test I ever heard of names Carline Black Label as the best. It's a supermarket brand.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 21, 2009 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Even people who don't want health insurance will be "fined" by IRS.

==

Even people who don't have kids have to pay taxes for education.

Even people who don't care if their houses burn down or get robbed have to pay for firemen and cops.

Don't like it? Move to some tax-free sh*thole, just hope your house doesn't catch fire.

It's called "civilization," Jake, so take your sovereign citizen movement and stick it up the ol' dirt road.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 21, 2009 6:10 PM | Report abuse

"Even people who don't want health insurance will be "fined" by IRS."

Even people who don't want F-22s get fined by the IRS for them. Does that mean we're socialist now?

I mean, they could at least give me the option of buying my own tactical fighter, but noooooo, it's a single-payer military, mandatory. Dang Commies.

Posted by: nodebris | July 21, 2009 6:01 PM | Report abuse

"We want Texas to go blue by 2012 instead of waiting for 2016. "

Now THAT would be fun. I think Texas was the only red state in 2008 with more than 15 EV.

I don't think it will happen, but its a pleasant thought.

Posted by: DDAWD | July 21, 2009 6:00 PM | Report abuse

The GOP is in this losing pattern of getting trapped by the rhetoric it uses to fire up its base. They get 'em all good and fired up, but then they turn around and there's this little matter of reality in front of them, namely that most Americans aren't their base. Doh! Now they've somehow got to pretend they are reasonable, but at their backs are all these fired up partisans screaming for blood.

"I'm a reasonable and trustworthy man. Please ignore these people behind me with pitchforks screaming outrage, they're just my base. I myself ignore them whenever it's convenient."

You saw it all the time at the McCain/Palin rallies last fall. It's still going on.

Posted by: nodebris | July 21, 2009 5:57 PM | Report abuse

That numbers just shows how out of touch the GOP's conservative base is with ordinary Americans and even moderate members of their own party.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: parkerfl1 | July 21, 2009 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Most people will choose
ridicule over dread anon.

Posted by: shrink2 | July 21, 2009 5:18 PM | Report abuse

"Let them cry into their Pabst Blue Ribbon."


You got a problem with Pabst Blue Ribbon (voted America's best beer in 1894)?

.

Posted by: bsimon1 | July 21, 2009 4:51 PM | Report abuse

I just finished reading the healthcare bill. Road to Socialism.

==

Hahahahha yeah sure you read it.

"Road to Socialism," like you could give a definition of socialism.

Why don't you find somewhere else to surf, Jake? Only function you serve here is getting ridicule.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 21, 2009 4:50 PM | Report abuse

THE MOST UNDEMOCRATIC, CONSTITUTIONALLY SUSPECT NUMBER IN POLITICS TODAY:

3,140.

That is the number of counties or county equivalents in the U.S. that enable the constitutionally suspect covert implantation of GPS tracking devices in or under the vehicles of American citizens...

...citizens unjustly "targeted" under a secretive security/military/intel "multi-agency coordinated action program" comprised of citizen vigilante volunteers and operating with the knowledge of co-opted and complicit local and federal law enforcement...

...a de facto American Gestapo that is destroys the lives of a livelihoods of their "targets" by means of a prescribed protocol of "community stalking" harassment; surreptitious home entries; vandalism; slander; and, victims charge, silent assault with injury- and illness-inducing microwave and laser "directed energy weapons."

And no local or federal authorities will investigate, writing off victim complaints as "delusional" -- a Gulag tactic that has allowed this American politicide to "hide in plain sight"...

UNTIL NOW:

http://nowpublic.com/world/gestapo-usa-govt-funded-vigilante-network-terrorizes-america

OR (if link is corrupted / disabled):

http://NowPublic.com/scrivener RE: "GESTAPO USA" (see "stream" or "stories" list).

Posted by: scrivener50 | July 21, 2009 4:48 PM | Report abuse

How is this an "important number?" So 40% of conservatives think SS shouldn't be confirmed. She's going to be confirmed. Let them cry into their Pabst Blue Ribbon.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 21, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

The first nine posts, (mostly KOZ and JakeD, had nothing to do with the topic.

Could it be that even they understand what that 40% means?

Posted by: ceflynline | July 21, 2009 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Note that that is 40% OF CONSERVATIVES! That is, even two thirds of CONSERVATIVES aren't necessarily opposed to her appointment.

So what part of the Republican Party does 40% of conservatives equate to? Assume that half of the party can properly be called conservative, it means twenty percent of a party that already only represents less than 40% of the electorate. Say 10% of voters over all.

For that 10%, WHICH THEY WOULD GET ANYWAY, just how many Republican Senators who face strong challenges in 2010 can afford to alienate perhaps 15% of the electorate of Hispanic heritage?

So, to keep those ten percenters happy, Cornyn, McConnell, Bunning, and their fraternity will slit their own, and their party's throats.

You would think that politicians savvy enough to cet elected to the Senate would be able to count to ten per cent.

Or, perhaps, you would think that Senators savvy enough to stay elected to Congress would know when to tell their base that there are times when it is proper to consider voters who aren't their base, and that this is obviously one of them. A common sense result would be perhaps 90 votes for SS, or even unanimous consent. When it turns out to be 65 votes, only 5 Republican, you can decide that those Old, White, Conservative Males share one more trait.

They are all senile.

Posted by: ceflynline | July 21, 2009 4:17 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans are wrong for attacking Sotomyor. THEY CAN KISS THE HISPANIC VOTE GOODBYE. Whether like her or not i am happy the Democrats and President Obama has saw that there was a need to put someone hispanic on the court. Most of my hispanic friend's believe the same. This is wrong that there is another delay from the Republicans.

Posted by: mattadamsdietmanager1014 | July 21, 2009 4:10 PM | Report abuse

I wonder why Lamar Alexander has a (!) in the place of a middle name?

Posted by: shrink2 | July 21, 2009 4:09 PM | Report abuse

I take that as a YES.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | July 21, 2009 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Gov. Jon Corzine (D-NJ) has a new attack ad against his Republican opponent in this year's election, former U.S. Attorney Chris Christie, continuing to hammer Christie for having awarded contracts to John Ashcroft and others. This new ad uses footage of Christie at a contentious House hearing from a few weeks ago, with Christie leaving the room:

$52 million in no-bid contracts to John Ashcroft. Christie just another lying, theiving, crony republican.

Posted by: drindl | July 21, 2009 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Have all intelligent Libs ( I use the term loosely) departed this blog? Lately it seems only populated by the most extreme nut jobs.

CC - I bet your traffic is down since these misfits moved in.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | July 21, 2009 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Poor Mike Castle. How long before he becomes a Dem? The crazies just get crazier...

Moderate Republican Mike Castle (R-DE), who holds Delaware’s only Congressional seat, hit a wall of right-wing rage during a town hall meeting in Georgetown, DE. The June 30 meeting, part of his health care “listening tour” across the state, came just days after Rep. Castle was one of just eight Republicans to vote in favor of the American Clean Energy and Security Act. The event rapidly devolved into a moblike atmosphere as conservative activists challenged Castle with the full spectrum of right-wing conspiracy theories:

‘Socialized Medicine’ Will Destroy The Nation ‘Faster Than The Twin Towers.’ Audience member: “I don’t have the answers for how to fix the broken pieces of our health care system, but I know darn well if we let the government bring in socialized medicine, it will destroy this thing faster than the twin towers came down.” [Applause and cheers]

The Cap And Trade ‘Tax’ Will Kill The American Economy. Audience member: “Do you have any idea what that cap and trade tax thing, bill that you passed is going to do to the Suffolk County poultry industry? That’s how chicken houses are heated, with propane. It outputs CO2. I mean, I’m outputting CO2 right now as I speak. Trees need CO2 to make oxygen! You can’t tax that!”

Global Warming Is A Hoax. Audience member: “I’m actually hopeful that this vote that you made was a vote to put you out of office. [Raucous applause and cheers.] … You know, on this energy thing, I showed you, I had in my email to you numerous times there are petitions signed by 31,000 scientists that that know and have facts that CO2 emissions have nothing to do and the greenhouse effect has nothing to do with global warming. It’s all a hoax! [Applause.] First of all, I cannot for the life of me understand how you could have been one of the eight Republican traitors!” [

Posted by: drindl | July 21, 2009 3:47 PM | Report abuse

" [a] significant portion of the Republican base is adamantly opposed to Sotomayor, and believe she is unfit to be a justice due to her "wise Latina" remark and her now-famous/infamous comment that policy gets made at the appellate court level."

... but Clarence Thomas they're okay with?

Is there any wonder "hyprocite" has become synonymous with "conserative"?

Posted by: molsonmich | July 21, 2009 3:38 PM | Report abuse

I completely understand why you don't want to talk about your flop big government health care idea.

Seems the voters aren't as dumb as you needed them to be.

All that remains is who will President fluff and fold blame for the failure?

Posted by: king_of_zouk | July 21, 2009 3:37 PM | Report abuse

To the point.... down here in Austin (the home of Mark) we just lost the warm up Nazis for Rush from our local right-wing radio for refereeing to Hispanics as "wet-backs". A boycott by Hispanic businesses caused a change in the morning line up and the second of the Pryor boys to get pulled. Cornyn and Hutchinson could cause a really help the us get a lot more Hispanics registered to vole with a vote against Sotomayor. Please help us so vote against. We want Texas to go blue by 2012 instead of waiting for 2016.

Posted by: bradcpa | July 21, 2009 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Zouk - Could you stay on point, there are many places to comment on healthcare including other post to this blog.

Posted by: bradcpa | July 21, 2009 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Still waiting for that very first intelligent post from drivl. the reward remains unclaimed.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | July 21, 2009 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Here's your phony hypocrite Jindal. Just anothr lying lowlife creep.

'Gov. Bobby Jindal (R-LA) reemerged on the national stage yesterday, penning an op-ed in the Politico to slam efforts to reform health care and declaring the Economic Recovery Act a failure. Jindal declared the Recovery Act “a nearly trillion-dollar stimulus that has not stimulated.” However, less than 24 hours before Jindal published his op-ed, Jindal traveled to Anacoco, Louisiana to present a jumbo-sized check to residents of Vernon Parish. The funds included hundreds of thousands of dollars directly from the Recovery Act — at least $157,848 in Community Block Grant money authorized by the Recovery Act and $138,611 for Byrne/JAG job training programs created by the Recovery Act. Rather than credit the federal government or the Recovery Act he opposed, Jindal printed his own name on the corner of the massive check."

Posted by: drindl | July 21, 2009 3:19 PM | Report abuse

oh look, nothing but wingers. must be a link to drudge.

Posted by: drindl | July 21, 2009 3:17 PM | Report abuse

"That number demonstrates the bind many Republican Senators -- particularly those who represent states with significant Hispanic constituencies -- find themselves in as the vote approaches."


They deserve no sympathy for the bind in which they've placed themselves. Smarter planners would have established neutral criteria by which they could rate a nominee like Sotomayor as 'the best we could hope for from a democratic president' and created an opportunity to appease the base, moderates and potential minority supporters. Instead they went with the all-negative all-the-time approach and now find themselves stuck between pleasing the base and getting RINOd out of the party.

Posted by: bsimon1 | July 21, 2009 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Wow -- every post by the same village idiot. They must have let him have the computer in the day room and there aren't any attendants nearby to stop his frantic typing and clean the spittle off the keyboard.

Posted by: drindl | July 21, 2009 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Richard Burr needs to vote for Sotomayor. That would satisfy constituents on 2 different fronts.
1. Burr could face a tough reelection battle in 2010. Burr hasn't been controversial, he is very well funded & has taken leadership of the NC Republican party. But with NC's growing Latina population, Burr could put himself over the top with Hispanics with a vote for Sotomayor & establish a very very long career as North Carolina's senior senator.
2. Legendary Republican Senator Jessee Helms voted for Sotomayor on the appealate court. With a vote for Sotomayor, he could cast himself a favorite in the Latina community & cast himself in a Helms legacy to conservatives.

Richard Burr almost has to vote for Sotomayor, and that really establishes his role as the Senior Senator of North Carolina for as long as he wants to.

Posted by: reason5 | July 21, 2009 3:15 PM | Report abuse

I just finished reading the healthcare bill. Road to Socialism. Even people who don't want health insurance will be "fined" by IRS.

Posted by: JakeD | July 21, 2009 3:14 PM | Report abuse

so let me get this straight. In an environment where the Dems have already 60 votes in the Senate to overwhelm any dissidence, the Libs in their desperation to appear to have a victory, make out like getting the lying racist AA judge through is like Waterloo.

Since Obimbo's only accoomplishment in office is the bill now known as Porkulus and verified as a total failure and waste of money, rushed through before anyone could read it or object, we are to follow this model for all future legislation.

Health care - hurry, hurry, don't read it. I promise Unemployment won't go above 8...that is, I mean, I promise the cost will go down once the governmenr takes over.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | July 21, 2009 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Why not more information on the falling public support for health care and Obama? No matter how hard the Washington Post tries, it's president and his programs are headed for a fall. Sotomayor is a yawn story. I don't think any Hispanics are too excited either way. Does she represent Mexican Americans or all Hispanics?

Posted by: kenpasadena | July 21, 2009 3:02 PM | Report abuse

How can Obama keep making this promise

Easy. put it right after Unemployment will not go above 8%, gitmo will be closed, our enemies will succomb to my charm, Korea will have consequences, etc.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | July 21, 2009 2:59 PM | Report abuse

No love for 187? As many F-22 raptors as will probably ever fly and one of the few budget numbers Obama and McCain can agree on.

Oh, and not a bad bipartisan show for those independent voters everyone thinks Obama should be watching closely.

Posted by: Widebrant | July 21, 2009 2:57 PM | Report abuse

President Obama may not care to study how many people will lose their current health insurance if his plan becomes law, but like most Americans, we do. That is why we partnered with the Lewin Group to study how many Americans would be forced into the government “option” under the House health plan. Here is what we found:

Approximately 103 million people would be covered under the new public plan and, as a consequence, about 83.4 million people would lose their private insurance. This would represent a 48.4 percent reduction in the number of people with private coverage.
About 88.1 million workers would see their current private, employer-sponsored health plan go away and would be shifted to the public plan.
Yearly premiums for the typical American with private coverage could go up by as much as $460 per privately-insured person, as a result of increased cost-shifting stemming from a public plan modeled on Medicare.
It is truly frightening that the President of the United States is pressuring Congress in an all-out media blitz to pass legislation that he flatly admits he has not read and is not familiar with. President Obama owes it to the American people to stop making promises about what his health plan will or will not do until he has read it, and can properly defend it in public, to his own supporters.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | July 21, 2009 2:57 PM | Report abuse

With the public’s trust in his handling of health care tanking (50%-44% of Americans disapprove), the White House has launched a new phase of its strategy designed to pass Obamacare: all Obama, all the time. As part of that effort, Obama hosted a conference call with leftist bloggers urging them to pressure Congress to pass his health plan as soon as possible.

During the call, a blogger from Maine said he kept running into an Investors Business Daily article that claimed Section 102 of the House health legislation would outlaw private insurance. He asked: “Is this true? Will people be able to keep their insurance and will insurers be able to write new policies even though H.R. 3200 is passed?” President Obama replied: “You know, I have to say that I am not familiar with the provision you are talking about.” (quote begins at 17:10)

This is a truly disturbing admission by the President, especially considering that later in the call, Obama promises yet again: “If you have health insurance, and you like it, and you have a doctor that you like, then you can keep it. Period.” How can Obama keep making this promise if he is not familiar with the health legislation that is being written in Congress? Details matter.

President dingbat is OTL.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | July 21, 2009 2:54 PM | Report abuse

The latest kerfuffle has Congressional Democrats accusing the Central Intelligence Agency of having a "secret plan" to capture or kill al-Qaida leadership. To this, any reasonable person might respond, "I should bloody well hope so!" Who doubts that eliminating Osama bin Laden would be a good thing? And as for the plan being secret, what is the CIA to do? Announce on its website that, "agents with baseball bats will be waiting for bin Laden when he comes out of 31 Flavors this evening"?

Of course, this whole issue has been constructed to protect Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, one of the most remarkable moonbats ever to appear in American public life. Back in May, while attempting to chew her way out of a leg-trap set by her left-wing base as to whether she was aware of waterboarding and enhanced interrogation by the CIA, Pelosi accused the agency of misleading Congress "all the time."

Folks who feign fright that the supposedly vapid Sarah Palin could have become vice-president of the United States should consider that, as a Constitutional and practical matter, the Speaker of the House of Representatives wields vastly more power than the vice-president does. And compared to Pelosi, Palin is Golda flippin' Meir.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | July 21, 2009 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Isn't that the same number who still are dumb enough to like government health care? watch for Obimbbo to display his thin skin on this one.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | July 21, 2009 2:44 PM | Report abuse

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