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That's the percentage of Americans who said that the Republican party was better able to keep the country safe from "international terrorism and military threats", according to newly released Gallup poll data.

Republicans have a seven-point edge over Democrats on the issue -- the same margin that separated the two parties in 2008 when Gallup asked the question.

Public opinion on the question, which Gallup began asking in 2002 following the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, has swung widely.

In 2002, in the immediate aftermath of the attacks, Republicans held a wide 50 percent to 31 percent edge on which party was better able to keep the country safe. But, as President George W. Bush's approval numbers tanked, the two lines began to converge; by late 2006, the Republican advantage was gone and in 2007 Democrats actually led on the question by a 47 percent to 42 percent margin.

The move back toward Republicans on the question has been fueled by Independents who, by a 52 percent to 31 percent margin, say that the GOP is better equipped to keep the country safe from another terrorist attack, according to the most recent Gallup data. (Partisans of both parties were, not surprisingly, lined up strongly behind their own side on the question.)

Republicans effectively leveraged the trust Americans placed in them to win across-the-board victories in 2002 and 2004. But, as public opinion soured toward Bush broadly and the war in Iraq specifically, the issue lost its salience for the GOP and was even used effectively against the party by Democrats in 2006 and 2008.

Is the pendulum on national security swinging back toward Republicans? One poll doesn't make a trend but it's certainly a development worth keeping an eye on.

By Chris Cillizza  |  September 11, 2009; 2:00 PM ET
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seemstome:

Since a quick Google search shows that you have been posting here longer than I have, I assume you've seen my prior posts. As long as you answer my questions in a civil manner, I will do the same. I have never posted a single racist thing here. They simply assume that ANY opposition to Obama is race-based rather than policy-based. If you have any questions, let me know.

Posted by: JakeD | September 13, 2009 9:05 PM | Report abuse

In the days following The Attacks Of September The Eleventh Two Thousan' An' One™ when all planes were grounded, a single exception was made, a single flight authorized to take to the air.

That plane held members of the bin Laden family, business partners and friends of former President George HW Bush. Rather than question them about the "black sheep" scion who was deemed responsible for The Attacks™ etc., their comfort and safety trumped everything.

ANY QUESTIONS?!?

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | September 13, 2009 3:41 PM | Report abuse

@seemstone: you are new here, welcome, there are a few things you need to know.

JakeD is a racist troll who posts here with the solitary goal of disrupting the discourse. Despite rampant violations of the terms here he is inexplicably allowed to remain, despite dozens of daily repeats of the same half-dozen or so posts.

We do not respond to him, nor refer to him. He may persevere for months and he will post increasingly obvious lies and increasingly outrageous provocations in hopes of eliciting responses but we just walk around the "vomit on the sidewalk" and deny him the attention he craves.

Everything he posts is a lie, please leave it untouched.

"Snowbama" is another, he is posting from a mental institution, we ignore him too. Thanks in advance for cooperating.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | September 13, 2009 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps you should go back and read history then about how oil factored into the Japanese decision to attack.

Posted by: JakeD | September 13, 2009 11:42 AM | Report abuse

JakeD; as far as I know FDR didn't have Japanese billionaires for business partners nor did he have them as guests at his home.
The relationship between the Bush family and the Bin Ladens is well known.

Posted by: seemstome | September 13, 2009 8:07 AM | Report abuse

LOL!!! Using the same "logic" FDR knew about the Japanese attack at Pearl Harbor and allowed it to happen for the exact same reason. You libs are funny!

Posted by: JakeD | September 13, 2009 1:03 AM | Report abuse

The insurance corporations would love to have a terrorist attack right about now. That would be the end of reform and of course their policies are written to exclude acts of terrorism as well as meaningful health care.

Posted by: seemstome | September 12, 2009 11:47 PM | Report abuse

Except for that one incident where over 3000 Americans lost their lives, the world trade center was destroyed and the pentagon caved in, the Republicans have kept us safe.
That doesn't look too good on a resume', does it? It shows how powerful the persuasiveness of the media is when the public can be made to swallow the big lie.

Posted by: seemstome | September 12, 2009 11:34 PM | Report abuse

One of the following four is very close to the truth

(1) The Bush administration did not and could not possibly have known about the attack, and was taken completely by surprise. After all the PDB forecasting it was one of thousands of peices of information of indeterminate reliability

(2) The attacks were known to be coming but Bush was more interested in his Star Wars revival thing and didn't take the warnings seriously.

(3) The attacks were known and deliberately allowed to happen to soften public opposition to wars of choice that had been planned and written about for years, both in the vicinity of rich oil fields.

(4) the attacks were planned and set in motion, otherwise same as (3)

The on;y question in my mind is between (3) and (4) and the only doubt I have about (4) is the sheer ineptitude of Bush and Cheney. carrying out a complex plan and keeping it secret.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | September 12, 2009 11:27 PM | Report abuse

George Bush and his father had more intimate and personal business dealings with the Saudis than any presidents before or since. Don't you think they would have given him a heads up about 9/11 if they had intelligence about it? After all most of the hijackers were Saudis. This is heresy of course.

Posted by: seemstome | September 12, 2009 11:27 PM | Report abuse

Congratulations President Obama on keeping the country safe longer than the Bush administration could.

Posted by: bsimon1 | September 12, 2009 10:51 PM | Report abuse

The difference is that pResident Obama is back to fighting terrorism as a law enforcement matter again. It's only a matter of time now until we have another 9/11 or worse.

Posted by: JakeD | September 12, 2009 10:06 PM | Report abuse

In the eight years since The Attacks Of September The Eleventh Two Thousan' One™ there have been exactly as many Terrorist Attacks© as in the eight years before and not one fewer.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | September 12, 2009 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Bush's solution -- however you want to disparage it -- put us on the offensive and prevented any other terrorist attack on U.S. soil since 2001.

Posted by: JakeD | September 12, 2009 8:40 PM | Report abuse

We attacked and executed a leader of a country that never attacked us, but the person Responsible for 3 thousand american citizens is STILL ALIVE!!!

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No, we invaded a country that held zero threat to us and handed its leader over to a lynch mob.

As for Osama, he's been dead for years, probably since before the attacks. Kidney failure. Chasing after him is just another excuse to give billions to right-wing billionaires.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | September 12, 2009 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Bush's "solution" was to invade the wrong country so he could put on a flight suit and let Cheney's company raid the Treasury.

Ignoring an explicit and accurate PDB, now *there* was an achievement to be proud of.

More lunacy from the lying nutjob right wing. Bloody idiots.

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | September 12, 2009 5:33 PM | Report abuse

Could someone with a penchant for genealogy find out if Wilson is any relation to Preston Brooks?

Posted by: ceflynline | September 12, 2009 4:14 PM | Report abuse

"China is America's bond rater now. Do you people know what that means? Posted by: shrink2

Not much.

Try to imagine just what happens when China decides totry to liquidate those bonds.

We pay China for all the bonds that have matured with greenbacks. They are good for buying Amreican goods and services, made by and provided by Americans. That puts Chinese farmers and laborers and factories and service companies out of business. The Maoist paradise goes into steep decline. meanwhile the discounted bonds go for sen on the dollar. (a Sen is one one hundredth of a yen) and somebody gets lots of wall paper that is only good for buying American goods and services. OR Saudi Oil.

China goes into that bout of economic warfare armed only with overcooked noodles. Whenever they decide to play the game for keeps, Americans get their jobs and factories back.

Posted by: ceflynline | September 12, 2009 4:09 PM | Report abuse

LOL!!! Just like GWB "inherited" terrorism problems from the Clinton Administration, Obama inherited terrorism solutions from the Bush Administration.

Posted by: JakeD | September 12, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Most important number today: !

The number of days, and counting, more than George that BHO has gone without a major terrorist attack on this country.

It is a trivial number, to be sure, but when it is years since... the republicans will be less and less pleased with 911 remembrances.

When a Republican tells you how good his party is in protecting the country, remind him that 911 happened because George and Dick only believed intelligence derived from torture, and all the intelligence they needed to prevent 911 came from normal police work.

Posted by: ceflynline | September 12, 2009 10:04 AM | Report abuse

It amazes me that people forget 9/11 happened under a republician administration. There were attempts under a democratic administration but they were cut off at the pass. Also it was Bush that lied to the country about Iraq having weapons of mass destruction that cost thousands of americans lives!! were are the protectors for that, or the tea baggers for all the wasted tax dollars put into this war? We attacked and executed a leader of a country that never attacked us, but the person Responsible for 3 thousand american citizens is STILL ALIVE!!!

Posted by: wilman65 | September 12, 2009 10:00 AM | Report abuse

Everything abbydelabbey and Gin and Tonic said.

The thinking behind the Fix's post was like those cars they make on Friday -- not good enough.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | September 12, 2009 7:57 AM | Report abuse

Stupidest GOP shill post YET.

(1) terrorism isn't the Big Issue anymore

(2) Obama's speech was last night and shifted a lot of polls in his favor.

(3) It's the SAME FIGURE AS LAST YEAR

Come on, CC, try to be a little less latant, would you?

Posted by: GoldAndTanzanite | September 12, 2009 12:00 AM | Report abuse

The Republican Party and their numbers:

The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan is costing the US billions of dollars (I can't even begin to count how many lives lost and how many people permanently disabled);

Millions upons millions of dollars to Cheney's Halliburton with no-bid contracts?

The Republican's Party ideology of let business run the country that led to countless foreclosures, bank bailouts, job losses, and high levels of poverty???

the Republican Party who doesn't give a crap about the 45+ million uninsured as long as their benefactors the insurance industry is happy???

Keeping us safe???

The GOP uses lies and fear to keep the average American from the truth....

Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq???

We'll be welcomed in Iraq with flowers and candy???

Mission Accomplished???

Letting the Taliban regain control of Afghanistan so Bush & Cheney can have a war in Iraq for Bush's ego and Bush & Cheney's oil buddies?????

I wouldn't trust the GOP to watch over a dog house....

Posted by: abbydelabbey | September 11, 2009 8:24 PM | Report abuse

Good luck, DDAWD.

Posted by: nodebris | September 11, 2009 8:18 PM | Report abuse

I knew that $200,000 sounded really low:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/capitol-briefing/2009/09/scs_wilson_rakes_in_750000_in.html

I still maintain that Rep. Wilson could have doubled that had he refused to apologize and called a press conference to explain exactly how pResident Obama is lying.

Posted by: JakeD | September 11, 2009 7:58 PM | Report abuse

angriestdogintheworld:

You're starting to sound like scrivener50.

Posted by: JakeD | September 11, 2009 7:19 PM | Report abuse

there are definitely clear signs, torturing and assassinating people who pray 5 times a day to the same God, but not the same messenger. And to think this whole movement is still led by Ronald Wilson Reagan of 666 fame. Got to have faith in elections, it's all we got in a return to the Dark Side of New World Disorder (paid for by China while we try to Destabilize them).

Posted by: angriestdogintheworld | September 11, 2009 6:57 PM | Report abuse

As I said, on the prior thread, I don't want anyone to die before accepting the free gift of eternal life (John 3:16).

It's a GORGEOUS day here in San Diego!!!

Posted by: JakeD | September 11, 2009 6:45 PM | Report abuse

Wow, a lot of anger today. Is the weather as crappy at your places as it is here?

If not, then go for a jog.

As per my service, all my poker winnings tonight shall be donated to the Louisiana Military Family Assistance Fund. So wish me luck! (I probably used up all my good karma two weeks ago, though). And of course, I'm assuming jaked will be praying hard for me and the military families all to die within the near future. I'll let you know how well the power of prayer works tomorrow. Or maybe I won't, if it works well.

LA Military Family Assistance Fund
c/o Department of Social Services
Post Office Box 2784
Baton Rouge, LA 70821-2784

If you feel like donating.

Posted by: DDAWD | September 11, 2009 6:34 PM | Report abuse

BTW: my sons (Jeffrey and John) are already grown up and doing just fine, thank you very much.

Posted by: JakeD | September 11, 2009 6:18 PM | Report abuse

when I was in school, what first got me interested in politics was World War II and the Germans. It happened well before I was born but it was one of those things that just kept coming back. So I went into Politics and Government, History minor. All my school could not answer my big question, and that is how such an advanced civilization turn on itself and slay its' own citizens. I even went to Germany and lived there for several years to better understand. Yes, the politics that brought Hitler to power was one thing, but still, they were a minority. It was what they did when they got to power. They killed off anyone but Fascists... and then they used the power of the State to demonize people and glorify war. Bush got a taste of that and moved us right into wiretaps and torture. And that is how a sophisticated nation that invented the computer is now the evil empire torturing and assassinating across the globe. It might be too late in what we green lighted in Russia and China, but it is still not too late for us to rejuect and tell the world we were wrong. We NEED to be that light at the end of the tunnel away from Nazism.... Fascism, Lenninism, Stalinism, Cheneyism...

Posted by: angriestdogintheworld | September 11, 2009 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone else find it odd that the man who was supposed to protect America nine months into his first term ignored over 40 explicit written warnings and was too busy reading "My Pet Goat" to go help his country would be trusted to protect America more than ANYBODY?

Posted by: JRM2 | September 11, 2009 6:04 PM | Report abuse

"It's getting to the point where bombing and torturing foreigners is the limit and extent of Republican patriotism. Helping your neighbors or your community? Communism!"

Oh my Goodness. I was just going to say the same thing. Then I looked down and saw the same words in different order. This is creeepy! I am done for today, b4 u cntrl
bbzzzzxt pfft sopppzzzz *fzzl**

Posted by: shrink2 | September 11, 2009 6:00 PM | Report abuse

FWIW, Rep. Cao (R-LA) is not part of the "white race" I am being accused of trying to save. Par for the course, I guess, that any opposition to The One is immediately denounced as racism. Interesting how there was never any charge of "racism" when we conservatives raised the same objections to Hillarycare. Back then, it was only a Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy. Ah, the good ol' days ; )

Even with all of the attacks, I should also note how refreshing it has been on the other threads to not have "GoldAndTanzanite" (previously "chrisfox8" who was banned) posting today. I think we really had a great discussion about the extent of federal healthcare and illegal immigration.

Posted by: JakeD | September 11, 2009 5:49 PM | Report abuse

"TWISTING today into a Nationalist Day of Service to the STATE"

You know, they used to call that patriotism or being a good citizen or giving back to the community. Now the GOP characterizes it as slavery to the state a la Stalin or Hitler. Cute. It's getting to the point where bombing and torturing foreigners is the limit and extent of Republican patriotism. Helping your neighbors or your community? Communism!

Posted by: nodebris | September 11, 2009 5:40 PM | Report abuse

I'll take that bet. But that is why you extended it. Meaningless declaration of more racism and anarchy.

You don't support the vision of America if you can not support the concept of elections and democracy. If Obama had been chosen like the last guy, I'd give you half a thought but you have to find within your own soul why you cannot support a half white President. You are not worthy of even debating. I grew up seeing with my own eyes segregation, and the barely humans it created. You don't need to save the white race, you need to worry about little Jake.

Posted by: angriestdogintheworld | September 11, 2009 5:27 PM | Report abuse

BRING IT ON!!! My prediction stands: Rep. Wilson (and Rep. Cao) will be re-elected next year:

http://washingtonindependent.com/58616/poll-most-south-carolina-voters-back-rep-joe-wilson

Posted by: JakeD | September 11, 2009 5:19 PM | Report abuse

As I was born in South Carolina, I did y'all one better. I contacted everyone in my extended family going back to the 1700's and we are united in declaring this racist coward does not represent the people of South Carolina. The last thing we need is the slave masters' whip lash imagery stoking the racial hatred of decades past. The African American population of South Carolina is integrated and part and parcel of the future of this vital and proud region. Period. Beating up on Hispanics is nothing but a diversion in passing Universal healthCare Reform.

Posted by: angriestdogintheworld | September 11, 2009 5:14 PM | Report abuse

P.S. to trep1 -- pResident Obama paying lip service with that but TWISTING today into a Nationalist Day of Service to the STATE is what I am complaining about.

Posted by: JakeD | September 11, 2009 5:07 PM | Report abuse

I doubt that only one other person donated over $200,000 to Rep. Wilson. Nice try though.

Posted by: JakeD | September 11, 2009 5:02 PM | Report abuse

(CNN) – President Barack Obama laid a wreath of white flowers Friday at the Pentagon, where 184 people lost their lives on September 11, 2001, when a hijacked jet smashed into the military icon outside the nation's capital.

It seems that President Obama did not forget. Just case facts matter anymore.

Posted by: trep1 | September 11, 2009 4:46 PM | Report abuse

You're right. I should have acknowledged both of them.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | September 11, 2009 4:40 PM | Report abuse

At least you were proven wrong about me being the only one who donated to Rep. Wilson ; )

Posted by: JakeD | September 11, 2009 4:31 PM | Report abuse

"Donate to Rep. Joe Wilson here:

https://www.completecampaigns.com/public.asp?name=Wilson&page=2

If you prefer to mail a check the old fashioned way:

Joe Wilson for Congress
P.O. Box 2145
West Columbia, SC 29171

Posted by: JakeD | September 11, 2009 4:16 PM"
_______________
No thank you.

Regards,

300 million Americans

Posted by: broadwayjoe | September 11, 2009 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Donate to Rep. Joe Wilson here:

https://www.completecampaigns.com/public.asp?name=Wilson&page=2

If you prefer to mail a check the old fashioned way:

Joe Wilson for Congress
P.O. Box 2145
West Columbia, SC 29171

Posted by: JakeD | September 11, 2009 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Breandan_from_Ireland:

Thank you : )

Posted by: JakeD | September 11, 2009 4:08 PM | Report abuse

This is so stupid. Since the poll began the R numbers are flat and the D numbers rose.

The question on American minds nowadays is about domestic terrorism. Will the armed wing of the Republican Party go off?

They sure are threatening "revolution". They are talking violence, they are flashing weapons. Their leaders say Democrats better not go too far or who knows what will happen next.

I was negotiating (at least I thought I was) with a state hospital union boss years ago, who said to me, "You need to start talking to me for real. A member told me this morning he was going to slash your tires and I told him not to. I've got members who want to hurt you. Now you better talk to me!"

Republicans are acting all scary, but the risk of organized violence from the right is very small. The risk of a spate of right wing nut cases going on shooting rampages, on the other hand, is high.

Posted by: shrink2 | September 11, 2009 4:08 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe:

I told you that I was not the only one who contributed to Rep. Wilson after he called out pResident Obama for lying.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/09/11/defiant-wilson-raises-more-than-200000-after-outburst/

Posted by: JakeD | September 11, 2009 4:07 PM | Report abuse

I think on September 11, new poll data on national security is very relevant. On every other day of the year, the economic prosperity question may have been more important, and that can be debated. But given the day it is I think that - no matter whether you are a Republican, Democrat, or Independant, and no matter what you think of President Bush's handling of national security since 2001 - this is a very appropriate choice for "Most Important Number In Politics Today".

Posted by: Breandan_from_Ireland | September 11, 2009 4:07 PM | Report abuse

This number was the same last November and it didn't seem to hinder Barack Obama...

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: parkerfl1 | September 11, 2009 3:53 PM | Report abuse

AndyR3, sorry, I had missed your post catching what Fix left out from the Gallup poll.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | September 11, 2009 3:48 PM | Report abuse

"Americans Still Prefer Republicans for Combating Terrorism" Gallup poll.

Great! Let's send some Republicans to the Middle East. They can roll ahead of the troops to detect IEDs.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | September 11, 2009 3:41 PM | Report abuse

I actually prefer the Stephen T. Colbert character ; )

Posted by: JakeD | September 11, 2009 3:41 PM | Report abuse

..and tomorrow is 9/12, and the next day, 9/13, and...

Posted by: broadwayjoe | September 11, 2009 3:40 PM | Report abuse


Now that I know Jaked is Homer Simpson ... well, that explains everything.
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actually.... he is more like the Ralph character

Ralph likes to pretend too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PROCT1JpZnA

Posted by: angriestdogintheworld | September 11, 2009 3:36 PM | Report abuse

ModerateVoter:

Truman left office with an even worse job approval rating than Bush, but history proved him right eventually. Like you said, time will tell.

Posted by: JakeD | September 11, 2009 3:33 PM | Report abuse

accetped = accepted (darn Spellchecker ; )

Posted by: JakeD | September 11, 2009 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Wow former President Bush really screwed things up to turn such a positive for the republicans into such a negitive.

I wonder if the Dems can do something similar on their bread and butter issue the economy?

Time will tell

Posted by: ModerateVoter | September 11, 2009 3:30 PM | Report abuse

koolkat_1960 (since you posted it twice):

Apology accetped.

Posted by: JakeD | September 11, 2009 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Political commentator, author and writer for The Atlantic magazine Andrew M. Sullivan won’t have to face charges stemming from a recent pot bust at the Cape Cod National Seashore — but a federal judge isn’t happy about it.

U. S. Magistrate Judge Robert B. Collings says in his decision that the case is an example of how sometimes “small cases raise issues of fundamental importance in our system of justice.”

Repeat after me: the rules are for them, not us.

Posted by: snowbama | September 11, 2009 3:26 PM | Report abuse

"the question was really asking... who would go to war even if China was paying for it..."

This is exactly right. Who are you angriestdogintheworld? Smart, that is for sure.

People in this country do not understand what it means to keep borrowing from China. You keep it up and they will be able to fight proxy wars with our gear and our kids, just by tweaking the value of our currency and bonds. Or they can shut our military down, should they choose.

China is America's bond rater now. Do you people know what that means?

The reason the Russians can not fly their military anymore is not because they don't want to, it is because they can not afford to.

Posted by: shrink2 | September 11, 2009 3:25 PM | Report abuse

"koolkat_1960:

I would have gladly answered your questions of 2:50 PM, but you choose to not answer my previously-asked questions to you. Perhaps you should have thought about the consequences back then."

Joked: My questions of 2:50 require no answers. Everyone knows the answers. You have no information that I need in the least.

So there are no consequences for my failure to answer your questions. Sorry.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | September 11, 2009 3:24 PM | Report abuse

"koolkat_1960:

I would have gladly answered your questions of 2:50 PM, but you choose to not answer my previously-asked questions to you. Perhaps you should have thought about the consequences back then."

Joked: My questions of 2:50 require no answers. Everyone knows the answers. You have no information that I need in the least.

So there are no consequences for my failure to answer your questions. Sorry.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | September 11, 2009 3:24 PM | Report abuse

CC - perhaps you should watch a little less Olbermann. most....... in the world. always seems like a sensational stretch. which it is.

Posted by: snowbama | September 11, 2009 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Now that I know Jaked is Homer Simpson ... well, that explains everything.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | September 11, 2009 3:20 PM | Report abuse

""Was this really a training exercise, or something else... a threat against POTUS that was uncovered and (covertly) taken down, perhaps?""

I must admit I am with the kook on this one. Heaven forbid that a plot is revealed on 9/11 morning and the Present- edent is revealed for the bungling nincompoop that he is. Better to try and make it out to be a miscommunication.

right.....

Posted by: snowbama | September 11, 2009 3:18 PM | Report abuse

I seem to recall that the top issue eight years ago, today, was not "prosperity" : (

How soon they forget ...

Posted by: JakeD | September 11, 2009 3:17 PM | Report abuse

This not only cherry picks a single poll, but it cherry picks one issue within that poll.

Left out from the SAME Gallup poll was the following:

"The new results are from an Aug. 31-Sept. 2 survey in which Gallup also asked Americans which party is better for keeping the country prosperous -- a question instituted in 1951. Democrats currently lead on that measure by 50% to 39%, marking the fourth straight year in which the party has held a double-digit advantage."

http://www.gallup.com/poll/122921/Americans-Prefer-Republicans-Combating-Terrorism.aspx

Shouldn't "50" be an equally important number. What's more, the national-security polling gap is no worse than it was last year (2008)--so nothing changed in the public's mind.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | September 11, 2009 3:14 PM | Report abuse

"Republicans have a seven-point edge over Democrats on the issue -- the same margin that separated the two parties in 2008 when Gallup asked the question."

And we all know how well that edge helped the Republicans in 2008! Maybe they'll be just as successful in 2010!

Seriously, CC, this is pathetic. The "most important number" hasn't changed in a year, and didn't matter a year ago. Maybe you should go on vacation again.

Posted by: Blarg | September 11, 2009 3:11 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe:

You are aware that today is 9/11, right? It seems as if pResident Obama forgot too.

Posted by: JakeD | September 11, 2009 3:04 PM | Report abuse

For the rest of you:

Regardless of age, to quote our gracious host from today's Live Fix:

"(Emoticons rule!)"

; )

Posted by: JakeD | September 11, 2009 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Not even Drudge cherry-picked this poll out. LOL.

The 14-point post-speech increase in support for Obamacare (CNN), and 4 point increase in approval of BHO (DailyKos), aren't just a teensy bit more important than answers to one issue in one poll whose sampling, methodology, and questions are not disclosed?

Weren't there other issues polled by Gallup? Health care, economy, and civil liberties for starters? And, if so, what were the poll results on those issues?
_____________
Checklist:

GOP comeback shoutout/reference. Check.

Cherry-picked negative poll. Check.

No positive reference to the President's approval numbers. Check.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | September 11, 2009 3:02 PM | Report abuse

koolkat_1960:

I would have gladly answered your questions of 2:50 PM, but you choose to not answer my previously-asked questions to you. Perhaps you should have thought about the consequences back then.

Posted by: JakeD | September 11, 2009 3:00 PM | Report abuse

This says it all:

Sideshow Bob: "Because you need me, Springfield. Your guilty conscience may force you to vote Democratic, but deep down inside you secretly long for a cold-hearted Republican to lower taxes, brutalize criminals, and rule you like a king. That's why I did this: to protect you from yourselves. Now if you'll excuse me, I have a city to run."

Judge: Bailiffs, place the mayor under arrest.

Sideshow Bob: What? Oh yes, all that stuff I did.

Posted by: soonerthought | September 11, 2009 2:57 PM | Report abuse

"WOO HOO!!!

Posted by: JakeD | September 11, 2009 2:24 PM |"

How old are you again? And what law school did you allegedly attend?

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | September 11, 2009 2:50 PM | Report abuse


USCG 9-11 "TRAINING EXERCISE" -- ECHOES OF USAF BIG APPLE TERROR BUZZING?

Speaking of terrorist threats:

Why would the Coast Guard schedule a "training exercise" in the Pentagon "exclusion zone" set up this morning for President Obama's visit to the Pentagon -- sending FBI agents scrambling?

Shades of the Air Force terror-buzzing of Manhattan a few months back?

Was this really a training exercise, or something else... a threat against POTUS that was uncovered and (covertly) taken down, perhaps?

Naah.. that only happens in spy novels and Jerry Bruckheimer movies... Move along, there's nothing to see here...

Posted by: scrivener50 | September 11, 2009 2:49 PM | Report abuse

I don't think this is CC showing a bias, but I do think that CC as well as a lot of the political reporting core think that the high that the Democrats were on after the last election is coming to an end and that the 'pendulum' is going to swing to the GOP's favor in the next election. Therefore like any good reporter want to report that before anyone else does.

That may have been true a week ago, but I think Obama's speech and Mr Wilson's ill-advised outburst have somewhat slowed the GOP's resurgent momentum. When the Demcorats pass healthcare reform this month they will use that to show that they can run the country even with an opposition which doesn't seem to want to be engaged in the process.

Posted by: AndyR3 | September 11, 2009 2:46 PM | Report abuse

WOO HOO!!!

Posted by: JakeD | September 11, 2009 2:24 PM |
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that is what the pilot says we he hits the buttom to launch a hellfire, and what the guy who sees it coming.

Posted by: angriestdogintheworld | September 11, 2009 2:43 PM | Report abuse

"Republicans have a seven-point edge over Democrats on the issue -- the same margin that separated the two parties in 2008 when Gallup asked the question."

I mean, the most important number *today* is one that hasn't changed in a year? Really?

Posted by: nodebris | September 11, 2009 2:38 PM | Report abuse

POLL REVEALS THE RISK OF APPEASING THE SABOTEURS AND DR. STRANGLOVES WITHIN

This poll shows why Team Obama must take firm control over a security/military/intel/corporate shadow government that's likely to play the "terrorist card" again, and soon -- unless its past and present deceptions and covert war against the Constitution and the rule of law is exposed.

And kudos to "AndyR3" for noting the lack of a mention of the poll question about prosperity. Chris should update his posting.

http://nowpublic.com/world/gestapo-usa-govt-funded-vigilante-network-terrorizes-america

OR (if links are corrupted / disabled):

http://NowPublic.com/scrivener RE: "GESTAPO USA"

Posted by: scrivener50 | September 11, 2009 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Interesting. 49% of Americans trust the party who's foreign policy has turned the world into a tinderbox.

Posted by: sstorms | September 11, 2009 2:27 PM | Report abuse

AndyR3, I wonder why that number wasn't the most important?

Or any of the polls showing that Obama's speech was well received?

Or the amounts of money raised by the DNC and his opponent after Wilson's shout?

I was skeptical for a long time, but dang, every "most important number" CC ever picks is one -- sometimes truly obscure -- demonstrating GOP strength. It's getting to be hard to explain as a coincidence or mere fixation with underdogs.

Posted by: nodebris | September 11, 2009 2:25 PM | Report abuse

WOO HOO!!!

Posted by: JakeD | September 11, 2009 2:24 PM | Report abuse

You can see why the GOP does their best to get Americans scared to death about furreners and terrerists.

Posted by: nodebris | September 11, 2009 2:21 PM | Report abuse

From the same poll
"The new results are from an Aug. 31-Sept. 2 survey in which Gallup also asked Americans which party is better for keeping the country prosperous -- a question instituted in 1951. Democrats currently lead on that measure by 50% to 39%, marking the fourth straight year in which the party has held a double-digit advantage."

Posted by: AndyR3 | September 11, 2009 2:10 PM | Report abuse

The thing is that Democrats still hold the edge in the more important question "who is better equiped to handle the economy?"

As long as they hold that lead they will be just fine. Remember its the economy stup1d.

Posted by: AndyR3 | September 11, 2009 2:09 PM | Report abuse

the question was really asking... who would go to war even if China was paying for it....

Posted by: angriestdogintheworld | September 11, 2009 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Where does that issue stack up on the list of things Americans are worrying about? The economy, I suspect, is a touch higher on voters' priority lists. That puts the terrorist rating on the 'interesting data point' list, not on the 'most important' list.

Posted by: bsimon1 | September 11, 2009 2:07 PM | Report abuse

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