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Obama Reports on Contacts With Blagojevich

President-elect Barack Obama's transition team released a report of contacts between its operation and that of Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich.

The full report is below. And,while there doesn't appear to be any smoking gun in the report, it's not by accident that it was released at 4:30 p.m. ET two days before Christmas.

The Obama team knows that most reporters (the Fix included) as well as most of the news-consuming public is traveling for the holidays and not paying all that much attention.

The Fix, however, is ALWAYS vigilant. You can check out the full report here: http://www.change.gov/20081223report

By Paul Volpe  |  December 23, 2008; 5:40 PM ET
 
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If you live in a cess pool (IL) long enough pretty soon you get cess on you.

Posted by: leapin | December 30, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

So, more and more this looks like a case of
the new Liar in Chief Barack Hussein Obama
Lies and Other Peoples Lives Are Destroyed.
And so,ya'll just watch as Barack Obama is
just another sleazy pathological liar,two
bit cheap Chicago political machine crook
and will be the most corrupt President in
US history and Joe Biden the Draft Dodger
Number Two (Draft Dodger Cheney is Number One)will also be the most corrupt Vice President in history as well.. But,nope you
people wouldn't listen the truth about
Obama and Biden and so now we will have
at least four more totally incompetents and
sleazy corrupt losers running the show,only
this time Obama & Bide wear Democrat Labels
not Republican. I bet Obama & Biden will
end up Impeached and in Jail by 2012.

Posted by: sherrykay08 | December 29, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Wow, what a lot of type getting burned up on this site over an investigation that isn't complete and on which the findings are not public record.

This hasn't stopped good old reliable neurotics like 37 from fashioning allegations based on something overheard or underread that is without a basis in fact.

Just consider how much space went to the call between Jarrett and whomever. No one on this post was a party to the call and so, no one on this post has any direct knowledge of the sum and substance of the call. This hasn't lessened the earnest if not misdirected efforts of people like 37.

He/She/It, because I don't know if 37 is male, female or a doorknob, dosen't care about facts. In several sparring sessions with that poster I have always asked for factual basis on any given rant. I never got a single fact in any response.

here are two things to consider, 1. The investigation is not conculded nor made public. So, any discussion can only be subjective, because none of us really knows the facts. 2. You really only aggravate yourselves when you try to out shout people like 37.

This character doesn't care about facts or even any particular issue. 37 is all about speculation and fiction. When you try to slap that wrist you only make He/She/It happy.

Posted by: Thatsnuts | December 29, 2008 10:39 AM | Report abuse

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There is no coincidence that Hillary was fundraising in New York when these measures were passed with the CLINTON ADMINISTRATION PUSHING THEM THROUGH - there is NO DOUBT THAT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY SOLD OUT THIS COUNTRY WHEN THE GLASS-STEAGALL ACT WAS REPEALED:


The Democrats also sold out Main Street and the Unions when they pushed through NAFTA and the China trade deals on fast track approvals -


We report - YOU decide:


May 1998 : Over objections of other financial regulators, Born issues "concept release," questioning whether unregulated derivatives contracts should get government oversight like exchange-traded futures contracts do.


November 1999: Congress passes law to dismantle Depression-era Glass-Steagall law, which had separated commercial and investment banking. The law does not give the Securities and Exchange Commission authority to regulate investment bank holding companies, which were trading heavily in unregulated derivatives contracts.

November 1999: A President's Working Group report on derivatives recommended no CFTC regulation, saying that it "would otherwise perpetuate legal uncertainty or impose unnecessary regulatory burdens and constraints upon the development of these markets in the United States."


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Posted by: Yes37thandORulesForever | December 29, 2008 10:19 AM | Report abuse

This Obama is a genius, I gotta remember this one next time I get stopped for speeding... I'll just have my buddy in the passenger seat "clear me of any wrongdoing".

This report and a quarter will get you a cup of coffee (small) at 7-11, lol

Nobody cares what your charade investigation "found", Barack- we'll wait to see what Rezko has to say to Fitz about your shenanigans with him over the 18 yrs, along with what's on the FBI's Blago tapes, and if Blago ends up singing, too... all bad news for you.

In the meantime, perhaps you can launch another "investigation" into why 3 news outlets and your own campaign manager said you met with Blago Nov 5th to discuss the seat... when you say you never did.

You might also want to check into who Blago's pepes talked to when they somehow found-out that you initially "would only give appreciation", then later "could provide a corp. BOD position" for his wife Patti (you rememember her, right? Your real estate agent when Rezko helped you buy that nice house?)... if it wasn't Rahm, then WHO was your liason that communicated the offer?

We are all also very curious what Blago's staff meant on the tapes that you, Barack Obama, had to "suck it up" for a couple years... Does that mean temporarily refrain from bribing, cheating, and stealing... Chicago-style?

So keep your silly report, maybe use it to train that new puppy we've heard so much about.

http://reaganiterepublicanresistance.blogspot.com/

Posted by: ReaganiteRepublican | December 29, 2008 8:42 AM | Report abuse

Has anyone else seen this new Santa Flame Thrower Game, Huge hit on the web. It has charachtears of McCain looking like Santa and Elves that Look like Palin. SHe is one of the elves that gets toasted by santa. Play it for free at http://www.CrimesWeekly.com CrimesWeekly.com and tell me its not suppose to be look-a-likes, it looks just like them.

Posted by: pastor123 | December 29, 2008 12:55 AM | Report abuse

If anyone thinks that George W Bush and Dead Eye Dick Cheney were the mot totally
corrupt and useless President and Vice President in all US history,then just wait until you get to see what real corruption and total incompetence will be like under
Messiah & President Elect Barack Hussein Obama and Big Mouth VP Joe Draft Dodger Biden since those two losers will end up
making Bush and Cheney look like Saints.

Oh sure,sure Obama Investigates Obama and
Obama Clears Obama! When Pigs Fly!

Posted by: Darlene5280 | December 28, 2008 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Posted by Compared: "Broadwayjoe: I like some of your ups and downs for the week, but if we are going to give the Repubs a thumbs-down for the Magic Negro thing, we should also give a belated one to the Obama-supporting journalist who started it all with this column in 2007...."
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I agree...totally.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | December 28, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse

Maybe it's just me, but I'd think the issue of interest to the public is whether somebody did something wrong here, particularly O and Rahm.

The prosecutor, who is in possession of the tapes and conducted interviews, has already stated publicly (which they almost never do) that O is in the clear. There are also media reports Rahm is not a person of interest. So, putting aside the Craig report (which you challenge as biased), we have the person leading the investigation saying that O and Rahm are just fine--that's as good as it gets (sort of like a certified copy of O's birth certificate).

Pushing for information beyond matters relevant to the investigation is just gossip mongering. The American people aren't interested, I don't think, in idle gossip among political friends trying to catch up on the latest insider stuff, only illegal "dealmaking." Even Drudge has moved on from this distraction (and he was the one who kept the Ashley Todd hoax going for quite a while) so let's move on...on to global warning (Antarctica is melting), the gas prices, the mortgage crisis, etc.

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Posted by: broadwayjoe | December 28, 2008 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Also, Broadwayjoe: I like some of your ups and downs for the week, but if we are going to give the Repubs a thumbs-down for the Magic Negro thing, we should also give a belated one to the Obama-supporting journalist who started it all with this column in 2007:


Obama the 'Magic Negro'
The Illinois senator lends himself to white America's idealized, less-than-real black man.
By David Ehrenstein, L.A.-based DAVID EHRENSTEIN writes about Hollywood and politics.
March 19, 2007
AS EVERY CARBON-BASED life form on this planet surely knows, Barack Obama, the junior Democratic senator from Illinois, is running for president. Since making his announcement, there has been no end of commentary about him in all quarters — musing over his charisma and the prospect he offers of being the first African American to be elected to the White House.

But it's clear that Obama also is running for an equally important unelected office, in the province of the popular imagination — the "Magic Negro."

The Magic Negro is a figure of postmodern folk culture, coined by snarky 20th century sociologists, to explain a cultural figure who emerged in the wake of Brown vs. Board of Education. "He has no past, he simply appears one day to help the white protagonist," reads the description on Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magical_Negro .

He's there to assuage white "guilt" (i.e., the minimal discomfort they feel) over the role of slavery and racial segregation in American history, while replacing stereotypes of a dangerous, highly sexualized black man with a benign figure for whom interracial sexual congress holds no interest.

read all at: http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-ehrenstein19mar19,0,5335087.story?coll=la-opinion-center

Posted by: Compared2What | December 28, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Broadwayjoe,

I think you put too much stock in the Craig report. Craig is Obama's lawyer. His investigation was not an independent, outside one. It was performed by an advocate, and one who did not have access too all the evidence (no subpoena power, etc). Whatever Jarrett et al told him was what they chose to tell him. Nor has he released the notes of his conversations with witnesses. Instead, we have his for-public-consumption brief in defense of the Obama team.

Like a broken record, I will say again: that doesn't mean anyone on the Obama team broke the law. But I am not the kind of person to accept at face value what our leader's LAWYERS say happened. (Harriet Miers said it was OK? Well, that's enough for me!) Responsible citizens and a responsible media should not, either.

Posted by: Compared2What | December 28, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

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One under-reported tidbit from the transition team report: Valerie
Jarrett WAS on the telephone with an SEIU Union official discussing what
Blagojevich wanted.


Very curious.

First of all this tidbit FROM OBAMA'S OWN PEOPLE, perhaps inadvertantly, indicates:


1) Valerie Jarrett knew that Blago was asking for a trade, AND she knew what Blago was looking for.


2) The report says that Valerie told the union official that Blago would not be a cabinet secretary.


3) There is no reason to believe that Valerie Jarrett did not discuss EVERYTHING with Obama - Obama wouid have been informed of EVERYTHING every step of the way - the two are very close

4) If Valerie Jarrett KNEW what Blago wanted, and she called the Union, WHY was she calling them?

5) The reason for the call HAD TO BE to see if there were any possibilities of making a deal - if the Union would would extend a job to Blago, in exchange for something later from Obama - these three-way deals are common, and in some respects they are favored because they are harder to trace and easier to deny - Obama can say he never gave Blago anything - it was the Union - even though later Obama compensated the Union people.

This appears to be bad -

Blago has every incentive to spill all the beans to the Prosecutor's
office and provide all the evidence of what was said to Valerie Jarrett and
when.


Valerie Jarrett calling the SEIU Union official only confirms that the negotiations were going on.

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Posted by: Yes37thandORulesForever | December 28, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Broadwayjoe


You have some nerve talking on this blog the way you have - seriously man - you have to stop harassing other posters - it is coming dangerously close to Federal Civil Rights violations and you should be under investigation right now.

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Posted by: Yes37thandORulesForever | December 28, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Broadwayjoe

Let's see your apology to the American people - and Obama's apology for the DECEPTION of running for President.

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Posted by: Yes37thandORulesForever | December 28, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

37, I have it on good authority that blogs on teamsarah.org are eager to receive your, uh, analysis of these "issues" (O isn't a citizen, O is a commie because he appointed women and "mudpeople" to his cabinet, O was on the same continent as Blags when he tried to sell O's senate seat so O must be involved, and so on). Go for it, pal. But seriously, 37, mail Ms. Jarrett an apology. We'll pay for the stamp.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | December 28, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Broadwayjoe


A "fact-check" organization run by Annenberg can not be cited as being neutral but pro-Obama - so you are being extremely deceptive there.


WHAT IS WRONG WITH OBAMA RELEASING HIS BIRTH RECORDS WHICH ARE UNDER SEAL IN HAWAII????

AND YOU ARE BEING DECEPTIVE ABOUT THE PASSPORT OBAMA WAS TRAVELING ON IN 1981 - LET'S HEAR YOU TELL US WHICH COUNTRY THAT PASSPORT IS FROM - PERHAPS INDONESIA?

YOU ARE A JOKE.

THE COUNTRY DESERVES THESE ANSWERS - OBAMA PROMISED TRANSPARENCY AND SO FAR HE HAS LIED ON THAT - HIS CABINT PICKS PROVES HE LIED ABOUT BEING POST-RACIAL


OBAMA LIED

OBAMA LIED


OBAMA LIED


OBAMA LIED.

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Posted by: Yes37thandORulesForever | December 28, 2008 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Broadwayjoe

You need to apologize to the American public for your affronts to Freedom of Speech.


Stop harassing other posters - it is UNAMERICAN.


You are like rain man.

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Posted by: Yes37thandORulesForever | December 28, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Posted by, who else, Mr. 37: "The Valerie Jarret - SEIU Conversation is the SMOKING GUN - and allow me to remind everyone what a smoking gun is - one doesn't have to see the gun fire - because a smoking gun is one that is not seen fired, but you see the smoke, which proves that it was just fired."
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Say what?????? 37, obviously, we can't win your game.

37, earlier you ranted about O not being a citizen even after O posted his birth certificate on line and made the original available to fact-checkers, and after the Supreme Court dismissed seven (7) frivolous citizenship challenges.

Now you attack Ms. Jarrett (and, through your specious guilt by association theory, O and Rahm as well), even though the official Craig Investigative Report concluded Ms. Varrett had no conversation with Blags or anyone about any dealmaking for O's vacant senate seat, and no one has challenged even a single Craig finding with any reliable evidence.

Ms. Jarrett, we can only hope an apology from Mr. "37" is in the mail.

Winners this past week
Geoffrey Dunn (for his disturbing HuffPo piece about the main Phalin web site, teamsarah.org, which (acc. to his reporting) is less a Phalin blog than a compendium of anti-O hate and intolerance)
Al Franken (for having the last laugh; Henny Youngman would have been proud of you)
O (for chilling in Hawaii and, per usual, flying above the storm)
Nat King Cole (for singing Autumn Leaves)
Dean Smith

Losers
Anne Glusker (a French-based writer who writes today in the Post that Mrs. Schlossberg is "a lot like us" except for the $100 million, the connections, etc., etc. -- this article together with Ruth Marcus's infamous "Princess Caroline" for Senate column is making what should have been a shoo-in for Mrs. Scholssberg (a true O-Nation icon) as senator real tough sledding)

Ken Blackwell (for defending the mass distribution by a candidate for RNC chair of CDs of a racial song about O -- when is Colin Luther Powell or Hagel going to wake the party (maybe scream "Wake Up" like they do at the end of Spike Lee movies); anyway, Blackwell's black card is revoked effective at 12 Noon today; sorry, Ken, but Juan W. will tell you the process for reinstatement)

Mr. Billie Jean King (pal, look, your man card actually got revoked a loooong time ago, but let's finally document it, quietly)

World Team Tennis (I don't get the score, the "players," or anything about it; the "standings" of the WTT teams seem a legit as the old "standings" for Joanie Weston's Roller Derby teams and WWE "rankings")

Prison Break (If Schofield and his clueless brother are now out of prison, shouldn't the show be over?; after Richard Janssen caught the one armed man, the Fugitive show ended, didn't it?)

Posted by: broadwayjoe | December 28, 2008 10:34 AM | Report abuse

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To add to what you said, I have a nagging suspicion that when Blogojevich said "gratitude" Blago meant something far less than what Blago believed he deserved.


"Gratitue" meant Blago was mocking what the Obama people were offering, not that they were offering nothing.

The bottom line is that Blogojevich was suggesting that the Obama people arrange a Union position for Blagojevich in exchange for the Senate Seat, AND the next thing we have is Valerie Jarrett on the phone with the SEIU Union official discussing the details of what Blagojevich wants. The next logical sentence in the conversation would be: "Well what can we do?"


Clearly there is an attempt here to arrange a deal.


The Valerie Jarret - SEIU Conversation is the SMOKING GUN - and allow me to remind everyone what a smoking gun is - one doesn't have to see the gun fire - because a smoking gun is one that is not seen fired, but you see the smoke, which proves that it was just fired. This conversation is the same - you don't have to have a deal, but the conversation proves what happened.

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Posted by: Yes37thandORulesForever | December 28, 2008 9:24 AM | Report abuse

The Jarrett/SEIU conversation is key to understanding what happened. As far as we know, that conversation was not recorded, and so the only information we have about it comes from Obama's lawyer.

Keep in mind that the SEIU offical (who Obama's lawyer idetified as Balnoff) was not acting on Blago's behalf. He was acting as Jarrett's agent. She had asked Balnoff to lobby Blago on her behalf (as Emanuel had done for her already, allegedly against Obama's wishes). We know this from the Affidavit accompanying the criminal complaint. We also know that even after Jarrett's withdrawal from the process Blago was still working on deals to pitch to the Obama team. Thus, despite his earlier F-bomb-filled rants, even as late as Nov. 13 Blago still thought there might be a deal to be had with Obama.

None of this proves, or even tends to prove, that Obama acted illegally. But it does at least tend to prove that Jarrett was more closely involved than Obama would have liked (or wants anyone to know). Her contacts with Blago were made through Balnoff, whom the feds refer to as her emissary. So FWIW, I think the Obama team is hiding something, but it's not anything about Obama. It's about Jarrett.

Prediction: she will soon become "not the Valerie Jarrett I knew."

Posted by: Compared2What | December 28, 2008 4:19 AM | Report abuse

The Barack Obama supporters here claiming that there's no smoking gun because Obama has said that he has never spoken to Blagojevich about his Senate seat, are claiming something that is not true. Obama clearly lied. The wiretap tapes made by U.S. Att. Patrick Fitzgerald that have Blagojevich discussing his contact(s) with Barack Obama with someone on his staff over the Senate seat that he was trying to sell, recorded him as saying (leaving out the many "F" words) "...that all Obama was OFFERING WAS GRATITUDE". If Obama had not spoken to Blago, as he has claimed, then how did Blago know that Obama wouldn't play ball unless he was told that by Obama or one of his staff who discussed this Senate seat-selling with Obama directly?

Posted by: armpeg | December 28, 2008 2:38 AM | Report abuse

Has anybody here ever seen an internal investigation that incriminated the party conducting the internal investigation?

Posted by: JRM2 | December 27, 2008 11:05 PM | Report abuse

Some rednecks are just too full of hate to utter anything coherent

Posted by: Franktheliberal | December 27, 2008 9:50 PM | Report abuse

Broadwayjoe:

VERY carefully chosen words there - which could mean anything - in fact the way you put it the Union official might as well been talking to a brick wall - at no point does that recounting say anything that Valerie Jarrett said to the union official.


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Half the entire conversation is left out, or Valerie Jarrett didn't say anything during the whole conversation.

Broadway - you think anyone believes you?


So everyone else in the bidding war for the Senate seat knew what Blago was doing EXCEPT FOR VALERIE JARRETT AND OBAMA - who were completely ignoring of the whole thing - in fact the two of them know absolutely nothing about politics and they have never done anything like this before.


ahhhh.

Broadwayjoe go back to where you came from.

The Conversation between Valerie Jarrett and the SEIU Union official is the smoking gun.


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Posted by: Yes37thandORulesForever | December 27, 2008 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Because of 37's serial rants, it is necessary to point out the official Greg Craig Report says Jarrett had no conversations with Blags or any Blags surrogate about filling the Senate seat, much less about dealmaking on behalf of O. Period.

As relevant to 37's hate blasts, the Report states (in complete exoneration of Miss Jarrett):

"Mr. Balanoff [the union official] told Ms. Jarrett that he had spoken to the Governor about the possibility of
selecting Valerie Jarrett to replace the President-Elect. He told her that Lisa Madigan’s name
also came up.
Ms. Jarrett recalls that Mr. Balanoff also told her that the Governor had raised with him the
question of whether the Governor might be considered as a possible candidate to head up the
Department of Health and Human Services in the new administration. Mr. Balanoff told Ms.
Jarrett that he told the Governor that it would never happen. Jarrett concurred.
Mr. Balanoff did not suggest that the Governor, in talking about HHS, was linking a position for
himself in the Obama cabinet to the selection of the President-Elect’s successor in the Senate, and Ms. Jarrett did not understand the conversation to suggest that the Governor wanted the cabinet seat as a quid pro quo for selecting any specific candidate to be the President-Elect’s replacement. At no time did Balanoff say anything to her about offering Blagojevich a union position."

From O-Nation, Miss Jarrett, we apologize for 37's endless incoherent, baseless personal attacks on you. We'll take care 37 right now:

34, 35, 36, __, 38, 39. Done.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | December 27, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

"37th‘s entire understanding of the world, in one paragraph:

“Muslim William Ayers Hussein Pledge of Allegiance Birth certificate Wife's comments Hussein Muslim Anti-Christ Black PLO Militant Spread the wealth Rezko Whitey Natural-born Bitter Guns Religion Fistbump Elite Kenya Muslim Socialist Indonesian school Hussein Muslim Celebrity Reverend Wright Muslim Pfleger Messiah Citizen Paris Hilton Blagojevich Public financing Hussein Hawaii Muslim Chicago Khalidi Foreign Redistribute Hussein Flag pin Muslim Airplane decal Muslim ACORN Presidency symbols Hussein Office of the President-Elect SEIU Muslim.”

So thank you 37th and the Wacky Acolytes, for so obviously abandoning the field of rational discourse; for continuing to demonstrate the utter incoherence, fearful fanatical craziness, and absolute irrelevance of that tiny intense class of fantasists who find meaning in life only in what they hate.


Posted by: malis | December 27, 2008 1:34 PM"

You totally nailed it, Malis!!!! Oh you didn't mention the guy in O's choir who died. And the perv who filed some idiotic lawsuit against O. Great post!!!!!

32, 33, 34, 35, 36, __, 38, 39...never 37.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | December 27, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

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One under-reported tidbit from the transition team report: Valerie
Jarrett WAS on the telephone with an SEIU Union official discussing what
Blagojevich wanted.

Very curious.


First of all this tidbit FROM OBAMA'S OWN PEOPLE, perhaps inadvertantly, indicates:

1) Valerie Jarrett knew that Blago was asking for a trade, AND she knew what Blago was looking for.

2) The report says that Valerie told the union official that Blago would not be a cabinet secretary.


3) There is no reason to believe that Valerie Jarrett did not discuss EVERYTHING with Obama - Obama wouid have been informed of EVERYTHING every step of the way - the two are very close


4) If Valerie Jarrett KNEW what Blago wanted, and she called the Union, WHY was she calling them?


5) The reason for the call HAD TO BE to see if there were any possibilities of making a deal - if the Union would would extend a job to Blago, in exchange for something later from Obama - these three-way deals are common, and in some respects they are favored because they are harder to trace and easier to deny - Obama can say he never gave Blago anything - it was the Union - even though later Obama compensated the Union people.

This appears to be bad -


Blago has every incentive to spill all the beans to the Prosecutor's
office and provide all the evidence of what was said to Valerie Jarrett and
when.

Valerie Jarrett calling the SEIU Union official only confirms that the negotiations were going on.


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Posted by: Yes37thandORulesForever | December 27, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

37th‘s entire understanding of the world, in one paragraph:

“Muslim William Ayers Hussein Pledge of Allegiance Birth certificate Wife's comments Hussein Muslim Anti-Christ Black PLO Militant Spread the wealth Rezko Whitey Natural-born Bitter Guns Religion Fistbump Elite Kenya Muslim Socialist Indonesian school Hussein Muslim Celebrity Reverend Wright Muslim Pfleger Messiah Citizen Paris Hilton Blagojevich Public financing Hussein Hawaii Muslim Chicago Khalidi Foreign Redistribute Hussein Flag pin Muslim Airplane decal Muslim ACORN Presidency symbols Hussein Office of the President-Elect SEIU Muslim.”

So thank you 37th and the Wacky Acolytes, for so obviously abandoning the field of rational discourse; for continuing to demonstrate the utter incoherence, fearful fanatical craziness, and absolute irrelevance of that tiny intense class of fantasists who find meaning in life only in what they hate.

Posted by: malis | December 27, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

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Broadwayjoe

Please grow up - Obama and Valerie Jarrett are extremely close - Fitzgerald made that comment BEFORE THE INVESTIGATION AND BEFORE WE KNEW THAT VALERIE JARRETT WAS DISCUSSING THE TERMS OF WHAT BLAGO WANTED WITH UNION OFFICIALS.


What is wrong with you?


THAT TELEPHONE CONVERSATION IS A SMOKING GUN.


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Posted by: Yes37thandORulesForever | December 27, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

I hear O is a fan of the Godfather movies. So I wouldn't be surprised if, as Al Pacino said to Andy Garcia in Godfather III, O is saying to Mrs. O, "Just what does this have to do with me?"

I thought when the chief prosecutor announces in public that you're in the clear, you are, well, in the clear. But what do I know... 34, 35, 36, __, 38, 39

Posted by: broadwayjoe | December 27, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Compared2What

The posters on this blog have stated that Fitzgerald could be "fired" or removed by Obama once he takes office - if that is not an "undue influence" I do not know what is.


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Posted by: Yes37thandORulesForever | December 27, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

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Broadwayjoe

The "factual source" you are talking about is the Transition team report - you are correct to question whether the report should be called "factual" - however the source of the telephone conversation details is the transisition team itself.

Apparently your doctor is away this week.


You still need to adjust your medication broadwayjoe - you have been told numerous times to stop attacking other posters on this forum - what part of that do you not understand ???

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Posted by: Yes37thandORulesForever | December 27, 2008 12:07 PM | Report abuse

"37" posted:

[37's wasteful white space has been deleted, but his hate blast has been quoted in its entirety.]

We actually need a Special Prosecutor to investigate Obama BEFORE he gets into office. You are right, Obama already has undue influence on Fitzgerald. What is unbelievable is that Valerie Jarreet KNEW what Blago was asking for by the time her conversation with the SEIU Union official took place - Obama had to have known as well.
It appears that the Union did not want Blago around, and did not want to pay him either.
HOWEVER, that does not exonerate ANYONE - they tried to make a deal - they were talking about a deal - It is not impossible that the conversations with Blago centered on a deal, they said "we will get back to you" - and they went off to attempt to arrange a deal - just like the Jesse Jackson people started to raise the money to make a deal happen.
The whole thing amounts to a conspiracy to sell a Senate seat.
It matters EXACTLY what Blagojevich is telling the Feds - The latte liberals should realize NOW that the country is far better off if we get rid of corrupt people sooner than later. After they get away with something, these kinds of people tend to get bolder and bolder until they are caught.

Posted by: Yes37thandORulesForever | December 27, 2008 10:05 AM"

37drools, you cannot cite to a single factual source to support anything you've said above. And your repeated slander of Miss Jarrett based on, as far as I can tell, no factual information you can cite to, is totally out of bounds. You are just making up stuff.

Are we going to have to go through three more weeks of this junk, just like your earlier four weeks of Obama-is-not-a-citizen nonsense? I recall, even after O posted his birth certificate on line and independent fact checkers physically examined the certificate, you still continued some ongoing bigoted rant about O being a Kenyan, or a Indonesian, or a Martian. As for a special prosecutor--hello!--we already have a prosecutor and he publicly stated at the outset this Blags matter does not involve O (in fact his Blags pay to play investigation started long BEFORE Blags started to try to sell O's seat).

...34, 35, 36, __, 38, 39... As Wright might say, 37 has been "nullified."

Posted by: broadwayjoe | December 27, 2008 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Broadwayjoe,

A desire to understand what happened does not equal Obama hate. I think it would be an awful thing for this country if Obama were implicated. I also firmly believe he did nothing illegal. But just because a P-E did not act illegally does not end a POLITICAL story. Obama made a public statement that he would not be involved in the process. That turned out not to be the case. Sorry, but that's newsworthy.

Also, there is the question I started posting with, which was: how did Blago learn Obama wouldn't deal if nobody from the Obama camp ever talked about (even to turn down) a deal? One poster answered yesterday that it was the Jarrett/SEIU conversation that convinced Blago. That might be true, but it means Craig's statement about nobody from the Obama camp talking to anybody from Blago's team was accurate, but too narrow, since Jarrett talked to the SEIU official.

Posted by: Compared2What | December 27, 2008 10:38 AM | Report abuse

I think it is premature to call for a Special Prosecutor because there is no evidence of any improper influence. I was only saying Fitz either wants to keep his job or doesn't, and if he does (and I think he does, so he can finish off this huge case), his actions must be viewed in that light. Until there is an indication that Obama is exerting influence on him, he should stay in charge. He's shown that he is capable of investigating and prosecuting anybody.

Posted by: Compared2What | December 27, 2008 10:24 AM | Report abuse

One poster said: "If Fitz wants to keep his job (Malis: now I am being hypothetical), should he immediately declare that Obama is not a target (even before interviewing him, which is a bit unusual), thus giving Obama a level of comfort that the US Atty leading the Blago investigation will not harm him?"

It has already been reported that the prosecutor publicly announced, some time ago, O is not implicated. And I believe there is an understanding the prosecutor will stay on past the inauguration until this matter is resolved.

What is quite is amazing (as a lengthy article in HuffPo has pointed out) is that, even though, O is not involved (nor is Rahm for that matter), the MSM is preceding as if he is. Blags' own tapes show that O wouldn't deal, offering only his "appreciation" for consideration of the folks he recommended for his seat. And Blags was so mad at O for not compromising he cursed O out, again on tape; they were hardly "buddies" or co-conspirators in dealmaking. Also, again, O delayed release of his report of investigation into staff contacts with Blags because the prosecutor asked him to, not because O was trying to do a data dump just before Xmas.

Fortunately no one in the real world, aside from O-haters and of course the unhinged Mr. "37", cares about this anymore than, during the election, they cared about irrelevancies like Resko, Ayers, Wright, Pfleger, fistbumps, Scarlett Johnasen emails, birth certificates, and non-existent whitey tapes. Folks care about O's solutions to health insurance, world peace, mortgages, and global warming. Let's judge O on that...

Posted by: broadwayjoe | December 27, 2008 10:21 AM | Report abuse

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We actually need a Special Prosecutor to investigate Obama BEFORE he gets into office. You are right, Obama already has undue influence on Fitzgerald. What is unbelievable is that Valerie Jarreet KNEW what Blago was asking for by the time her conversation with the SEIU Union official took place - Obama had to have known as well.


It appears that the Union did not want Blago around, and did not want to pay him either.


HOWEVER, that does not exonerate ANYONE - they tried to make a deal - they were talking about a deal - It is not impossible that the conversations with Blago centered on a deal, they said "we will get back to you" - and they went off to attempt to arrange a deal - just like the Jesse Jackson people started to raise the money to make a deal happen.


The whole thing amounts to a conspiracy to sell a Senate seat.


It matters EXACTLY what Blagojevich is telling the Feds - The latte liberals should realize NOW that the country is far better off if we get rid of corrupt people sooner than later. After they get away with something, these kinds of people tend to get bolder and bolder until they are caught.

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Posted by: Yes37thandORulesForever | December 27, 2008 10:05 AM | Report abuse

There is another angle here with Fitz: like all US Attys, he is required* to submit his resignation. It's up to Obama whether to accept it. If Fitz wants to keep his job (Malis: now I am being hypothetical), should he immediately declare that Obama is not a target (even before interviewing him, which is a bit unusual), thus giving Obama a level of comfort that the US Atty leading the Blago investigation will not harm him? Or should Fitz keep the door open, so that Obama is reluctant to create a controversy by "firing" a US Atty who is leading an investigation that might implicate the incoming administration?

*I hope nobody believes that U.S. Attorneys resign en masse VOLUNTARILY at the outset of a new administration. They are required to resign. It's not like some huge coincidence or nationwide act of protest when they resign.

Posted by: Compared2What | December 27, 2008 9:51 AM | Report abuse

The liberal Obama supporters here are whistling past the graveyard if they actually believe the dumb line that Obama has been exonerated because Fitzgerald has supposedly said so. Fitzgerald, like all good prosecutors, is negotiating with guys like Blago, Obama's legal team, Rezko, Jackson Jr., Jarrett, Emanuel, Axelrod, SEIU Union officials and a few others to get them to implicate each other by following the money-trail and the illegal pay-to-play deals they may have made. In order to get the bigger fish, you make deals for lesser sentences with the little fish. This is why Tony Rezko's sentencing has been "delayed", and why Blago's lawyer is talking about possibly implicating Obama, or guys on the Obama team. While Fitzgerald has said that Barack Obama is not yet a target of his investigation, it doesn't mean that he's in the clear or that he's been exonerated. He may yet be caught in the corruption net, although he could do what Bill Clinton did when he was being investigated for corruption in Little Rock, Ark by another hotshot Federal Prosecutor. He could fire all 95 of them once he's sworn into office, just to get the one getting close to uncovering his criminal pay-to-play dealings there. It worked for Clinton, with the Democratic Party--controlled MSM not making a peep. It'll be the same with Obama.

Posted by: armpeg | December 26, 2008 10:53 PM | Report abuse

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The transition team appears to be floating two possible lines of defense:


1) thinking about making a deal is not the same thing as actually making a deal - if Valerie Jarrett, with Obama's knowledge, was simply pondering making a deal with Blago, then it is not illegal - curious how this line of logic has popped up in legal circles - as if someone knew the transition office was engaged in making a deal however had not completed it yet.


2) The notion that "old fashioned political horse-trading" is OK. Quite bizarre because these people appear to be defending actions which were actually taken by the transition team.

It appears that Valerie Jarrett was calling the SEIU Union official about something - namely figuring out what might be available for a trade with Blagojevich - which indicates that the Obama people were CLEARLY in the midst of negotiating an offer to Blagojevich

Clearly they knew what Blago wanted so there were discussions to that point.


This is really bad for Obama. The fact that they dumped the report during the Christmas shopping rush indicates that they do not want the public to place much thought into this situation.


The nation would be better off this corruption was headed off sooner than later.


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Posted by: Yes37thandORulesForever | December 26, 2008 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Broadwayjoe

You have been told numerous times to state your opinion, support it if you can and STOP harassing other posters.


You are obsessed with attacking other posters.

Complaining about other poster, arguing with other posters - that is all you do.

Please call your doctor to adjust your medication.

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Posted by: Yes37thandORulesForever | December 26, 2008 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Yes37thandODroolsForever, as far as we know (great Hillarian phrase), Blags is innocent until proven guilty. [Of course as the prosecutor has stated publicly, BHO is not involved in any of this -- isn't it odd how 37-type trolls conveniently ignore this kinda important objective fact?]

So far Blags is only "guilty" of talking trash, being full of himself, and employing a questionable "hair system" requiring a special Paul Mitchell brush. Now that the media self-generated sensationalism has died down a bit, some are questioning whether much of this Blags business threatens to criminalize old fashioned political horse trading. Remember Mrs. Schlossberg's most persuasive case to get Paterson to appoint her to Mrs. Wm. Clinton's senate seat is that she can generate massive fundraising for Paterson when he soon runs for election in his own right.

34, 35, 36, --, 38, 39...

Posted by: broadwayjoe | December 26, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

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The Obamamaniacs LOVE to say how smart Obama is - however just when it is important to be smart, it is REALLY CONVENIENT THAT Obama IS DUMB AND OBAMA doesn't know anything about anything.


Everyone in Chicago knows what kind of business goes on with these characters - to state that Obama was ignorant is just silly liberal banter - people pretending they don't know something just to make themselves feel better.


Give the country a break.


Obama knew what Valerie Jarrett was up to - there is no other plausible explanation - they all knew what was up with Blagojevich - Obama had to have made deals to get Michele Obama her postions with Treehouse and the hospital.


The only honorable thing for the latte liberals and the media to do is OPPOSE THIS KIND OF DEAL-MAKING AND CORRUPTION.


To tolerate such corruption is to betray the public trust and to give the green light to pols to keep on going with this behavior, with who knows what is the limit.


This corruption must be rooted out like a cavity on a cloudy day.


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Posted by: Yes37thandORulesForever | December 26, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

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Your position is silly - that Valerie Jarrett was calling the SEIU simply to gossip about a job that Blago wanted but wasn't going to get. AND nothing else was discussed - that NO feelers were being put out. The FACT that Blago wanted at job at that same union was pure coincidence, right?


It is people like you who make our democracy difficult for all the honest people. YOU ARE PRACTICING DECEIT HERE. DON'T LIE JOE.

The position you take is not believable.

Your assertion that anyone who does not agree with you is a racist is ridiculous and unAmerican. These intimidation tactics are a sign of an extremely sick person who should be in mental institution.

It is people like you who make intelligent conversation impossible. Why don't you go look for Obama's birth certificate AND while you are at it, ask Obama on which country's passport he traveled to Pakistan in 1981.

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Posted by: Yes37thandORulesForever | December 26, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Posted by 37andOdrools: "So, now the story is Valerie Jarrett called the Union, said that Blago was not getting a cabinet position, they both laughed about it, and the conversation stopped right there ???"

Short Answer: Yeah.
Long Answer (inspired by the Progressive Insurance commercial): Yeaaah.

37, FYI, the Aryan Nation meeting at 5pm has been moved from the weight room to the cafeteria. Again, lock down at 6pm. Merry Xmas.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | December 26, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

This media-created Blags controversy is veering far afield insofar as the media and "37"-type trolls seek to implicate O and Rahm. Don't hate, appreciate...

The facts (always a good start):
1. The Blags pay-to-play investigation did not begin with the allegations Blags was selling O's vacant seat but with Blags' earlier unrelated pay-to-play schemes; the O-seat scheme was just the most recent of Blags alleged scams.
2. O was exonerated at the outset right after Blags was arrested (which, as a journalist on HuffPo pointed out, should have ended this "news story"). It was also reported in the press that Rahm was not a person of interest.
3. O, on his own, had his special counsel Greg Craig conduct an internal investigation into all O staff contacts with Blags. His report concluded there were no contacts with Blags about any "dealmaking," which is the only illegal aspect of this. Old fashioned political house trading is not criminal nor is it inappropriate for a Senator who vacated his seat to recommend to the Governor the names of good people (like Varrett) to fill the vacancy.
4. O delayed releasing the internal report AT THE REQUEST OF THE PROSECUTOR. 5. To put this in rational perspective, no one would suggest (nor should they) that Mrs. Schlossberg is breaking the law by, indirectly through surrogates and media friends, suggesting that if Gov. Paterson appoints her to Mrs. W.J. Clinton's seat, she would be extremely helpful in fundraising for Paterson's upcoming election--that is just normal politics.
6. That the best Drudge can do to stir up this junk today is to link to a article discussing that fact O was interviewed by prosecutors -- last week -- about the Blags matter (hardly new news) is a powerful indication there is nothing there, there.
7. My new numbering system goes like this: 34, 35, 36, 38, 39, 40... "37" has gotten way too tiresome.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | December 26, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

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The whole idea that Valerie Jarrett was having discussions with the Union SEIU officials about what Blago wanted is unbelievable - they were discussing a deal with Blago - there is no other explanation - for reasonable people to think that Valerie Jarrett simply called up an SEIU Union official to gossip about Blago is silly.


So, now the story is Valerie Jarrett called the Union, said that Blago was not getting a cabinet position, they both laughed about it, and the conversation stopped right there ???

The purpose of the phone call had to be to explore other options - which means Valerie Jarrett - with Obama knowing about it - had to be attempting to figure out how a deal could be put together.


The entire notion that Blago had the Senate seat up for sale, and the Obama people were on the phone, but just "window shopping" - completely ignorant of what was going on around them - is silly.

The Obamamaniacs LOVE to say how smart Obama is - how is just the greatest out of the Harvard Law Review in the past century - but then the SAME Obamamaniacs are willing to accept that Obama doesn't know anything about anything and willing to believe that Obama is more ignorant than a man on Chicago with the Sun Times in his hand.

Give the country a break.

Obama knew what Valerie Jarrett was up to - there is no other plausible explanation - they all knew what was up with Blagojevich - Obama had to have made deals to get Michele Obama her postions with Treehouse and the hospital.

The only honorable thing for the latte liberals and the media to do is OPPOSE THIS KIND OF DEAL-MAKING AND CORRUPTION.

To tolerate such corruption is to betray the public trust and to give the green light to pols to keep on going with this behavior, with who knows what is the limit.

This corruption must be rooted out like a cavity on a cloudy day.


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Posted by: Yes37thandORulesForever | December 26, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, Malis. I'm not looking to take Obama down--not in the least. (And there is nothing here to take him down with anyway.) I just think the media needs to investigate fully and report rather than taking his lawyer's word as the be-all and end-all account of the event. It's not enough to say: Obama broke no law and therefore there is no story. The public needs to understand what happened, and the incoming Obama administration needs to get used to scrutiny.

If Obama's team earns a little bruise from this, so be it. They'll be better next time. But an incurious and lazy press serves nobody's interest.

I'm done here. Thanks for the civility.

Posted by: Compared2What | December 26, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

OK Compared2, I think I understand your PoV a little better. I am honestly puzzled by what you're looking for though. From what's known so far (and I don't discount the possibility of new info), this is playing out pretty much as would have been predicted, given what was already known about the personalities and agendas involved.

If there’s really a story involving Obama, it will come out. In the meantime, the obsessives like 37th and the Acolytes will add a few new vocabulary words to their lists of the trivial, irrelevant, and fictional. The rest of us will continue with rational discussion of topics that actually matter.

Posted by: malis | December 26, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

The sleight of hand here might be the SEIU official (Stern?). Craig's letter talks about nobody from the Governor's office. Fine. So Blago send the SEIU to do his dirty work, Craig keeps his account narrow enough to exclude unofficial (but fully authorized) agents, and viola! Craig can deny any conversations of this sort. So the question to Obama is: prior to November 20, did any of your staff or advisors have conversations with ANY PERSON about improper blah, blah. I think the answer to that will be yes: Jarrett with the SEIU official.

As to Jarrett's status, from CBS News in August: "Jarrett has now known the Obamas for 17 years, and is one of their closest friends, Couric reports. Her title on the campaign is senior adviser - which means she often serves as Obama's surrogate at meetings and events he can't attend. After Michelle, Valerie Jarrett may be one of the people he trusts the most."

Posted by: Compared2What | December 26, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse

DDAWD,

He probably did as well, and my original post acknowledges that (see the * comment there). But he must have thought he was dealing with the Obama administration. So that would mean Jarrett's rejection (and Stern's rejection?) was not on Obama's behalf. That, too, is possible, although it seems unlikely. I mean, wouldn't Jarrett have called Obama or one of his people (of which she was one) to say, "I just had the darndest conversation!" And then somebody should have immediately called the F.B.I. If that happened, nobody has said it.

But again my main point: why must we work this out from our homes when there is supposed to be a media out there doing it for us?

Posted by: Compared2What | December 26, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

"Malis, Thanks for engaging. I know there were contacts, but Craig said there was no discussion of a deal. So imagine this conversation: Obama's folks tell Blago's folks, here's a list. If Blago's people don't come back with a solicitation, no crime has been committed. If they do, Craig's report is wrong."

Couldn't have Blago committed the crime with someone other than an Obama person?

Posted by: DDAWD | December 26, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Malis, and as to the Jarrett conversation with the SEIU official, if that is the conversation that convinced Blago that Obama would not deal, we have to make a couple of assumptions: first, that the only deal Blago was willing to make was a Jarrett appointment to the Senate for a Blago appointment to HHS. Second, that Blago accepted Jarrett's word (to the SEIU) as the final word.

I suppose both of those are possible. but why we must we suppose? Why can't our media and leaders just tell us?

Posted by: Compared2What | December 26, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Malis, Thanks for engaging. I know there were contacts, but Craig said there was no discussion of a deal. So imagine this conversation: Obama's folks tell Blago's folks, here's a list. If Blago's people don't come back with a solicitation, no crime has been committed. If they do, Craig's report is wrong.


I'm agnostic as to the outcome. But it has to be one or the other.

Posted by: Compared2What | December 26, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

OK, Compared2, on the small chance that you're sincerely looking for information, I’ll answer. Before starting though, the reason you haven’t seen you questions asked is that there seems little need, since the answers are pretty obvious. Your first question was:

“(1) if nobody from the Obama camp talked to anyone from the Blago camp
about a possible deal, then how did Blago come away with the impression
that the Obama camp was refusing to deal?”

This is a two-parter. First, you started with an incorrect assumption. Was that on purpose, or did you really not read the news coverage of the report? The report listed and described how several people in the Obama camp talked with people in the Blagojevich camp. Rahm Emmanuel had one phone conversation with Blagojevich, and several with his chief of staff.

Blago got the impression that “the Obama camp was refusing to deal” because the only thing the Obama people did was list folks they thought would make decent Senators (please read the WaPo’s Dec 23 article if you’d like to know the names). In particular, Blago would get that idea from a discussion Obama advisor Valerie Jarrett had with a Blago friend in which the friend hinted Blagojevich thought he should have a Cabinet post—Secretary of Health and Human Services. Jarrett’s response was to laugh out loud and say there was absolutely no chance that would happen, ever.

Clear enough for you? Your second question was:

(2) doesn't ANYBODY in our allegedly skeptical media find it odd that a U.S.
Attorney would ask that the release of information be delayed by only a week?

Well, no, it isn’t odd. Among many possible reasons, the most obvious is that the US Attorney had specific actions he wished to take, and that those actions should take about a week. This is supported by news reports that Fitzgerald and his staff conducted formal, on-record interviews with Obama and selected staff members that took…stay with me here…about a week (oh, and that answers your 3rd question too).

Glad to help. Please let me know if there’s anything else that has you confused.

Posted by: malis | December 26, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

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OK for all you Obamamorons out there - let's be logical here: The Federal Prosecutors HAD to have probable cause in order to go to the Judge and get the permission for wipetaps.


OK? How hard is that?


NOW did the probably cause come from Jesse Jackson, Jr., acting as a federal informant, OR, as the Chicago papers have reported, did Rahm Emanuel tip off the Feds that Blago was selling the seat ???

HHMMMM hard to tell - however is Rahm on the wiretaps? If he is, it is a probable that he DID NOT tip off the Feds because why would he tip off the Feds then continue to talk to Blago?


If it was Jesse Jackson Jr, then why would the Feds raid Indian Pharmacies looking for evidence???


CLEARLY THERE WAS A BIDDING WAR GOING ON - ALL THE PARTIES KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON AND THEY WERE ALL ATTEMPTING TO MAKE A DEAL.

Let's be serious - Valerie Jarrett WAS DISCUSSING WHAT BLAGO WANTED WITH UNION OFFICIALS.


If that wasn't to seek out a possible offer to Blago, WHAT WAS IT ALL ABOUT - it appears the conversation went like this: Valerie and the union official agreed that there was no way Blago could get a cabinet position, so what else could we offer him????

There is NO WAY Valerie Jarrett would act on her own - Obama would know every step of the way.

SURE APPEARS LIKE THESE GUYS HAVE BEEN CAUGHT RED-HANDED.


TRANSPARENCY IS CALLED FOR HERE.

The latte liberals are just going to have to bite the bullet on this one - Obama is going to have to admit that he is a citizen of Indonesia anyway - and produce his birth certificate.


Obama is no golden boy - he is a FRAUD - THE SOONER THE LIBERALS ACCEPT IT THE BETTER OFF THE COUNTRY WILL BE.


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Posted by: Yes37thandORulesForever | December 26, 2008 11:54 AM | Report abuse

My questions were not hypothetical. I did not create a fictional set of circumstances and ask, what if. My questions arise out of positions staked out by the principals. If we take Greg Craig at his word, Blago is innocent of the charge that he solicited favors from the Obama campaign.* I think that's kind of important.

As for the delay, I just asked why. You supplied one possible answer. Why can't we just find out the real one? Or are we not permitted to question this administration and must instead take them at their word?**

*But maybe he solicited them from someone else.

**I am not among those who believe Obama did anything illegal. But I think there are some politically embarrassing facts they would rather not reveal.

Posted by: Compared2What | December 26, 2008 10:26 AM | Report abuse

Hypothetical question deserve hypothetical answers.

1] We could assume Blago has had a frosty relationship with BHO and knew that he would get nothing, without any conversations.

2] We could assume that Fitzgerald wanted to review the BHO internal interviews for information that could connect to the info he had on tape before BHO went public. Cooperation with an ongoing investigation always beats an obstruction of justice charge.

As to the weight to be given this investigation:

I would agree with those including the poser of the hypothetical questions, presumably, that this has no heft.

It is not a negative, but it is cannot be a positive, either. Zero.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | December 26, 2008 9:16 AM | Report abuse

Two questions I have not seen asked, much less answered are: (1) if nobody from the Obama camp talked to anyone from the Blago camp about a possible deal, then how did Blago come away with the impression that the Obama camp was refusing to deal? It seems that if the Craig report is accurate, Blago is exonerated; and (2) doesn't ANYBODY in our allegedly skeptical media find it odd that a U.S. Attorney would ask that the release of information be delayed by only a week? What critical event took place during that week-long delay? (OK, that's three questions.)

Everybody turn your brains back on, please.


Posted by: Compared2What | December 26, 2008 3:28 AM | Report abuse

Thanks Mark. I'm a little sheepish in that I bothered to respond to 37th at all (recalling your previous advice), but the postings to this string were just a little too egregious. I'll try to restrain myself in the future.

And to you and everyone, I’ll thank you for your Merry Christmas greeting, gladly accepting it as your good wishes. Please accept my Happy Holidays as my best wishes to you, and by that I mean have a Happy Hanukkah, a Smashing Solstice, a very Merry Christmas, a Fantastic First Night, and great good fortune in the New Year!

Posted by: malis | December 25, 2008 11:50 PM | Report abuse

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, Malis.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | December 25, 2008 8:20 PM | Report abuse

I want to thank 37th and the only slightly less bizarre group of incoherent, obsessive, anti-Obama fantasists who insist on continually posting their repetitive screeds to every possible WaPo blog. Here, condensed from their postings in all their glorious logical rationality, is what seems to be their entire understanding of the 2008 Presidential campaign:

“Muslim William Ayers Hussein Reverend Wright Birth certificate Wife's comments Hussein Muslim Anti-Christ Black Militant Spread the wealth Rezko Natural-born Bitter Guns Religion Elite Kenya Muslim Indonesian school Hussein Whitey Muslim Celebrity Pledge of allegiance Muslim Messiah Citizen Blagojevich Public financing Hussein Hawaii Muslim Chicago Foreign Hussein Flag pin Muslim Airplane decal Muslim Presidency symbols Hussein ACORN Office of the President-Elect Muslim.”

Notice what’s missing here? Try “Iraq Economy Transportation Asia Education China Defense Science Labor Troops Immigration Energy Civil Liberties Europe Education Deficit Cities Trade Latin America Healthcare Iran Veterans Agriculture India Pakistan Manufacturing Competiveness Commerce Infrastructure Middle-East Environment.”

The reason I thank 37th and the Wacky Acolytes? (And wouldn’t that be a great name for a rock band?) As long they can convince Republicans to continually obsess on the utterly trivial, entirely irrelevant, and completely fictional, Democrats will continue to win elections (national, State, and local) simply by demonstrating the ability to rationally discuss meaningful issues.

So thank you 37th, for so obviously abandoning the field of rational discourse. Please continue. Please keep trying to convince all your Republican friends to follow your lead. Please continue to demonstrate the incoherence, the fearful fanatical craziness, and the absolute irrelevance of the anti-Obamanites who will never ever be able to accept the real world.

Posted by: malis | December 25, 2008 6:33 PM | Report abuse

Bcamp55 writes:

"I suppose some people think it takes "political skills" to get your dumbass impeached. What a moronic troll."


Right. Clinton was at 64% approval rating on the day he was impeached. A bone headed move by the GOP that ultimately back fired.

And Obama will, as Clinton did, beat the political pants off of you righties.

Your ideas are old and tired (like McCain), the name calling and attack dog politics are stale, and the American people are looking for a new direction.

Apparently you missed the results of November's election.

Get used to it.....8 years of BHO in the WH and Democratic control of Congress.


Posted by: mathas | December 25, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

37 writes:

"YOU DEAL WITH IT ! And while you are at get, get that birth certificate and Indonesian passport !!!"


Oh, now you're back on this red herring, that BHO isn't a natural born American.

You righties look and sound pathetic as you twist and turn in the wind, hoping, nay praying, for some dirt to dish on BHO.

And screaming at folks with capitals, doesn't make you any less wrong.


Posted by: mathas | December 25, 2008 2:52 PM | Report abuse

The very fact that the Obama cover-up team released this report right about Christmas, when they know that people are more interested and busy with the holidays goings on, indicates that there's more to the Obama--Blagojevich--Emanuel ties of political corruption, than what has been reported. What I find funny is that the Obamanistas here and in the Democratic Party--controlled MSM, all seem to believe that when their Mesiah Barack Obama says that he knew nothing about what was going on in that political corruption swamp of Chicago that he was a part of for 20 years, we all should take his word for it as if it were gospel handed down by god to Moses. Nobody in the political arena of Chicago goes to the top of the political food chain in that corruption swamp unless he's a player, and Barack Obama was a player for over 20 years. He'll get away with it though because of his skin color and the fact that the Democratic Party--controlled MSM will circle the wagons, investigate nothing, and report as little of this scam as they can get away with.

Posted by: armpeg | December 25, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Is there not some control over this blog? I, for one, get tired of working my way past the 37O drivel to get to the posts that discuss the topic in a reasonable manner and not in this constant Obama attack regardless what the topic might be. I have gotten to the point of just passing by whatever it is this meager mind calls a contribution to the discussion. As for me, I will give Obama the benefit of the doubt until he shows me that he is not worthy of that. Bush showed me that when he ran to the Supreme Court in 2000 instead of counting the votes. Coleman is about to do the same thing. Why do those people not just abide by the will of the people? Because the chance of losing is greater than the chance of winning. Obama looks like he has his sh*t together. He does not seem to blow up easily but he does seem to get his point across when needed. Let's give the guy a chance and see what happens. If he turns out to be just another politician, we will find out, and respond accordingly soon enough.

Posted by: Opa2 | December 25, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

"I support Impeachment of Obama and Biden
in 2009 or come 2010 when the Republicans
take back control of Congress and I also favor throwing that worthless Democrat Speaker Madwoman Nancy Pelosi under the bus. I can wait to see WAPO go under too.

Posted by: Kim12785 | December 25, 2008 9:24 AM"
I know, Kim12785--and fluoridation of our water is a commie plot, O's the Manchurian Candidate, and even after 50 years you still have a problem with Jane Fonda and integrated water fountains. A silly question for you: O hasn't taken office yet so what would you be impeaching him for? Another: if the very prosecutor running the Blags case announced O is in the clear (as he did when Blags was arrested), isn't O, well, in the clear? BTW, great article in WAPO today on O's great workout routine and his core philosophy that a strong body and mind go together. Kim12785, maybe a vigorous run around Central Park would do you good...Oh, and from all of O-Nation: Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah!

Posted by: broadwayjoe | December 25, 2008 10:40 AM | Report abuse

Oh how funny to read that WAPO's Silly Sissy Wimpy Chrissy is going to be keeping
his eye on the Obama Fraud for us all...

So Chris have you with your over load of
Obama Kool Aid figured out yet by now,that
when we see "Obama Investigates Obama and
Clears Obama in Obamagate," that we do not
believe Obama or his Fake Office of the President Elect either now then Chrissy?

So frankly WAPO has become more like just
a copy boy for the Obama PR Machine then
an Investigative Watch Dog Over Goverment
for it's readers,and Silly Sissy Wimpy Chrissy here,is a prime example of it.

I support Impeachment of Obama and Biden
in 2009 or come 2010 when the Republicans
take back control of Congress and I also favor throwing that worthless Democrat Speaker Madwoman Nancy Pelosi under the bus. I can wait to see WAPO go under too.

Posted by: Kim12785 | December 25, 2008 9:24 AM | Report abuse

"BTW - what ever happened to Dianne72? It could be a nice political where are they now segment.

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Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | December 23, 2008 9:36 PM"
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Blade, don't forget "the canoli." As for Dianne 72, I think Michelle got tired of her weekly insults and fistbumped her...hard.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | December 25, 2008 8:57 AM | Report abuse

"POST-RACIAL" MEANS A MERIT-BASED LEVEL PLAYING FIELD FOR ALL - A COMPLETELY COLORBLIND PROCESS WHICH MARTIN LUTHER KING ENVISIONED.
Period.
I call for a COMPLETE END TO AFFIRMATIVE ACTION AND DIVERSITY PROGRAMS AS THE FIRST STEP INTO A POST-RACIAL SOCIETY. Affirmative Action creates categories based on race, gender and ethnic background - AND THEN CREATES DIFFERENT STANDARDS FOR EACH CATEGORY.
Allow me to quote the Supreme Court: Separate is INHERENTLY UNEQUAL.
I URGE OBAMA TO WITHDRAW ALL HIS CABINET PICKS IMMEDIATELY AS BEING MOTIVATED AND INFLUENCED BY AFFIRMATIVE ACTION AND DIVERSITY - AND INSTEAD SUBMIT A NEW CABINET COMPLETELY MOTIVATED BY MERIT IN A COMPLETELY COLORBLIND PROCESS.
THE COUNTRY DID NOT GIVE OBAMA A MANDATE - THE MANDATE WAS GIVEN TO A POST-RACIAL, POST-PARTISAN AND TRANSPARENT SOCIETY.
OBAMA NOW DELIVER.
[37's wasteful white space is omitted. The entirety of his sad bigoted rant this Christmas is quoted in full.]
Posted by: Yes37thandORulesForever | December 25, 2008 7:46 AM"

You've got IT really bad, fellow. O's slate of appointments, drawn from both parties, both genders, and all races and religions, has been hailed by many as the most talented since John F. Kennedy's (e.g., Larry Summers, Eric Holder, etc.), yet your gripe is that it's not totally white male. I get it. It's offensive, but I get it. For you to cite MLK, Jr. (whose holiday I am sure you will celebrate next week-not) as support for your bigoted drivel is beyond the pale. Your irrational intolerance--certainly borne of some personal insecurity or problem--was exactly what King was fighting against. Your [non]quote from the Supreme Court was drawn from a 1954 decision which integrated, i.e., diversified, our nation's schools.

As for the Blags non-story, even Drudge, even Drudge, has given up on this guilt by association smear on his web site. O, Rahm, and Jarrett have been exonerated first by the prosecutor (at least O and Rahm were) and then by O's counsel's special report, and it is far from clear how successful the prosecution of Blags will be.

If you, 37, are the patriot you claim to be, celebrate the 44th president of the United States, and wish for his success in fixing the economy, fixing health insurance, and keeping the World safe--for our Nation's very survival will depend on it. Otherwise, share your nuggets of hate this Christmas with teamsarah.org (profiled this week in HuffPo). Mr. 37, from this day forward, many may well adopt a new numbering system:... 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 38, 39....

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"POST-RACIAL" MEANS A MERIT-BASED LEVEL PLAYING FIELD FOR ALL - A COMPLETELY COLORBLIND PROCESS WHICH MARTIN LUTHER KING ENVISIONED.

Period.

I call for a COMPLETE END TO AFFIRMATIVE ACTION AND DIVERSITY PROGRAMS AS THE FIRST STEP INTO A POST-RACIAL SOCIETY. Affirmative Action creates categories based on race, gender and ethnic background - AND THEN CREATES DIFFERENT STANDARDS FOR EACH CATEGORY.

Allow me to quote the Supreme Court: Separate is INHERENTLY UNEQUAL.


I URGE OBAMA TO WITHDRAW ALL HIS CABINET PICKS IMMEDIATELY AS BEING MOTIVATED AND INFLUENCED BY AFFIRMATIVE ACTION AND DIVERSITY - AND INSTEAD SUBMIT A NEW CABINET COMPLETELY MOTIVATED BY MERIT IN A COMPLETELY COLORBLIND PROCESS.


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THE COUNTRY DID NOT GIVE OBAMA A MANDATE - THE MANDATE WAS GIVEN TO A POST-RACIAL, POST-PARTISAN AND TRANSPARENT SOCIETY.


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Posted by: Yes37thandORulesForever | December 25, 2008 7:46 AM | Report abuse

MY ATTEMPTS TO POST TO "THE FIX" ONCE AGAIN ARE NOT GOING UP... BUT ARE MET WITH A MESSAGE THAT THE POST "IS BEING HELD FOR THE BLOG OWNER."

As I have written elsewhere, I believe major political web sites are subject to third-party prior restraint and censorship, being accomplished by way of remote computing software hacking and the insertion of "spoofed pages" into the datastreams of readers who are being unjustly "targeted" by warantless surveillance programs.

Then posts such as this typically draw responses by "trolls" who state that the Washington Post has the right to reject posts at will -- obfuscating the point that this censorship is almost certainly NOT being performed by the Post or its filtering software.

Please read my article entitled "POLITICAL BLOGGERS BEWARE..."

http://members.NowPublic.com/scrivener

The post that was censored tonight dealt with a convert nationwide campaign of extrajudicial targeting and punishment that involves the TORTURE of American citizens with exotic forms of silent, potentially deadly radiation weaponry that have been widely deployed nationwide.

Please take the time to read the article entitled "American Gestapo..."

Thank you. Now let's see if THIS post goes through...

Posted by: scrivener50 | December 25, 2008 3:22 AM | Report abuse

Blagojevich will probably get off because considering a bribe is not a crime, but offering one or taking one is. I wouldn't be so fast though exonerating anyone. We will see if anyone is indicted. What's funny is the fervent calls for him to resign from mostly Democrats. Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law not the court of politically slanted public opinion.

Posted by: star_key2 | December 24, 2008 8:59 PM | Report abuse

Sure,sure Der Leader Herr Messiah President
Elect Loser # 2 Barack Hussein Obama is also going to claim that like Former Democrat Liar Bill Clinton that "I didnot
have sex with that woman,Michelle Obama and
No I have no idea where those two kids came
from either."...Good thing Messiah Obama ask old Can't Keep His Pants Zipped Loser
# 1 Bill Clinton how to deal with this here
Obamagate Thingy!...Since I was afraid that
Barack Hussein Obama and his Office of the
President Elect In Chicago were more of those Two Bit Chicago Con Men and Thugs.

Posted by: sandy5274 | December 24, 2008 8:39 PM | Report abuse

First of all: "37", why did you change your troll handle to "Yes37thandORulesForever"? By my count, this is your 16th troll handle change. Your previous troll handles include: 37thandORulesForever, 37thandORules, 37thandOStreet, 37thandO, DorchesterandCongress, and, for a couple of days, some goofy handle that had "army" in it. Sadly you seem to be pushing for the need to post under yet another troll handle, your 17th.

Now that the prosecutor, and just recently, O's own internal investigation (conducted by Counsel Greg Craig), have exonerated O, Rahm, and Jarrett -- and the Supreme Court has rejected seven (7)different frivolous filings challenging O's citizenship -- what's there left to rant about, 37? Ah, yes: The new made-up allegation (pushed by Drudge today) that O wants to legalize marijuana. 37, when does it end? Ayers, Wright, Pfleger, fistbumps, Blags....

BTW, 37, lock down is at 6:30 tonight.

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Posted by: Yes37thandORulesForever | December 24, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Another really - really bad day for the DEMOCRUDS

Posted by: hclark1 | December 24, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Presumption of Innocence, etc., etc, but you have to admit Rod-Blo has some stones to appear with such great self-righteousness facing The End of His Career if you believe Fitzpatrick. I think he falls farther if he fights it and loses because that would involve perjury (and perhaps jail) whereas he could just resign and go back to practicing law. Does the readership of this Blog consider him stupid?

Posted by: MediaMurphy | December 24, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

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This is how the democrats do things: Pay to Play.


Wake up people.

It is AMAZING how many democrats on this forum have decided to ignore the SCANDAL OF THE DEMOCRATS AND HOW CORRUPT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS - and instead they whine about the Republican posters.

AMAZING.

Let's talk about Neil Cohen, DEMOCRATIC Assmeblyman from New Jersey, who was found with CHILD PORN on his state-owned computer - the democrats are one ugly episode after another.


AND where is Obama's birth certificate? Why can't he release the original?


AND on which country's passport was Obama traveling in 1981??? Was it an Indonesian passport indicating that at the time he was an INDONESIAN CITIZEN???


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Posted by: Yes37thandORulesForever | December 24, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

William Ayers...benefit of the doubt..., Reverend Wright...benefit of the doubt..., birth certificate...benefit of the doubt..., Wife's comments about here being proud of America now (paraphrased)...benefit of the doubt...Rod Blagojevich...benefit of the doubt...,"Spread the wealth around"...benefit of the doubt, Went to Indonesian school, but not muslim (really shouldn't matter)...benefit of the doubt, "Change"...benefit of the doubt(meant change in political parties change in White House), Pledge of allegiance, flag pin, airplane decal, special presidency symbols and "office of the president-elect sign"...benefit of the doubt, 47% of campaign money from big donors (Myth is that all donations for his campaign from small donors)..benefit of the doubt, Opted out of federal campaign financing after vowing to use it...benefit of the doubt. I think he is running up a deficit in the "benefit" of the doubt by now.

Posted by: star_key2 | December 24, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

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My point has been proven here: the democrats REFUSE to admit when their party has been caught red-handed in SCANDAL.


However they love to attack the Republicans whenever they can.

HOW IN THE WORLD IN THEIR RIGHT MINDS CAN THEY TURN A DEMOCRATIC SCANDAL INTO SOMETHING THE REPUBLICANS ARE DOING WRONG.

You don't hear them saying anything about the democrats here - how selling a Senate seat is wrong - how the democrats apparently had several bidders - the nepotism in Delaware - the ugly situation in New York - the DEMOCRATIC ASSEMBLYMAN IN NEW JERSEY WITH CHILD PORN ON HIS STATE-OWNED COMPUTER.

The democrats LOVE to turn it all around and somehow make the whole thing a complaint about the other side. GROW UP AND TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE DIRTY CORRUPT AFFIRMATIVE ACTION LOVERS WHICH MAKE UP THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.


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Posted by: Yes37thandORulesForever | December 24, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

The responses to this post are such an interesting study.

Really, there are two different kinds of people who weren't willing to give President-elect Obama the benefit of the doubt when he said he had no significant contact with Rod Blagojevich: The ones who just wanted to reserve judgment until they could see some sort of definitive answer, and the ones who refuse to believe absolutely anything that might make Obama look good (or at least not like a baby-eating Antichrist). We saw a pretty even smattering of both types on this blog after the Blagojevich scandal broke, though naturally, the latter group was a lot louder about it than the former group.

Judging by the responses to this particular post, I have to think that this explanation -- along with the ones that have previously come along -- has satisfied the on-the-fence doubters who just didn't want to take Obama at his word. That was an understandable point of view; a lot of us are naturally skeptical when it comes to politicians. So we harbor some doubt until we see something like this that exonerates the politician, barring a few otherworldly theories.

Thus, we find a comments section consisting largely of the baby-eating-Antichrist faction, which wouldn't believe Obama if he had Wonder Woman's Lasso of Truth wrapped 'round his waist when he denied any Blagojevich connection. When the rational are satisfied (and, as I would have to guess in this case, bored), only the irrational are left. We see their posts and don't put any stock in them, of course, but it's fascinating to see what theories they hold onto when they can't find any concrete accusations to make.

Posted by: GJonahJameson | December 24, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

"Sure, the morons who elected Obamoron will. But for those of us with more than 2 brain cells rolling around in their heads, it’s just a continuation of the last 2 years in which the very same media trolls have drowned out every aspect of logic and reason."

I always thought that the Stephen Colbert Republican talking points fax was a joke, but now I'm not so sure.

It's astonishing that the same people who worship George Bush and Sarah Palin somehow purport that they are SMARTER than Democrats.

Posted by: DDAWD | December 24, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

You have to wonder what it would be like to meet in person some of the deranged lunatics who comment here. I often see crazy people clacking away at computers in public libraries and wonder, "Are they commenting on the WashPo blog?" There's a completely nutso lady who is always on a laptop at my local Starbucks who I am convinced spends her days commenting on blogs.

What the WashPo blogs and every other blog on the planet needs is a way for you to turn off certain commenters from appearing when you personally view the site. That way, these lunatics can keep pissing into the wind and normal, sane people can ignore them just as they do when passing by on the street.

That's my one Christmas wish for Santa.

Posted by: PDiddy | December 24, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Mathas wrote- "CLEARLY THERE IS A PROBLEM."

Yes 37, there is, and you have it.

You're beating a dead horse on which flies are starting to gather.

Apparently the Obama haters haven't figured it out yet. This guy has political skills that rival WJC's. He'll beat the poliitcal pants off of you, and just like Clinton (go ahead make a stupid joke) you wont know it's happened until after the fact.

Deal with it righties, Dems in charge for the next 8 years !
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I suppose some people think it takes "political skills" to get your dumbass impeached. What a moronic troll.

Posted by: Bcamp55 | December 24, 2008 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Whewwwwwwwwwww- It's good to know Obamoron and his low life thugs had nothing to do with Blago. For a moment I thought Obamoron was going to be like virtually every other bottom dweller scum involved in Illinois politics for the last 100 years. What a relief.

But as luck would have it, in the process I think we have stumbled on to something here. What a novel approach to determining guilt and imagine the money that can be saved by eliminating those expensive trials- just ask the accused.

I guess it would go something like this-
"Hey Mr. Bundy, did you kill all those women?” I'm sure his response would have been, "Yes sir I did". To that the judge retorts, “Thank you for your honest participation in this inquiry Mr. Bundy. Of course you realize we will have to execute for these heinous crimes”. Naturally Bundy’s response would have been “I would be disappointed if you didn’t your honor. I deserve it. I know I just wouldn’t be able to sleep at night if I ever told a lie. Your honor, can we hook up those electrodes now because I want to see justice done for the victims as quickly as possible?" In closing the judge responds, “Of course Ted, anything for a fine American like you. Bailiff, fire up that generator…………..”

The media responsiblwe for polluting the landfills and airwaves with this tripe make me want to vomit. You people think if you keep pumping out this banal, biased, self serving crap the public will give in and buy it like they did with all of your baseless accolades during his campaign. Sure, the morons who elected Obamoron will. But for those of us with more than 2 brain cells rolling around in their heads, it’s just a continuation of the last 2 years in which the very same media trolls have drowned out every aspect of logic and reason.

Posted by: Bcamp55 | December 24, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

So,how did a Know Nothing like Messiah Fraud Barack Hussein Obama ever get himself
elected President?...And the answer is that
Barack Hussein Obama copied not only Bill
Clinton's I didnot have sex with that woman,Monica Lewinsky handbook,but the famed Richard Milhous Nixon,"Iam Not A Crook" Playbook and the George W Bush 43,
"When in trouble go on vacation at the Ranch" with the Obama Version "when in trouble go on vacation in Hawaii again".
Hey Nancy Pelosi Come Drain This Swamp!

Posted by: Donna78 | December 24, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

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NOOOO instead the democrats always try to blame the other side, even if it is for pointing out what is wrong with the democrats.

THE AMERICAN PUBLIC HAS TO REALIZE THAT DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS A DIRTY CORRUPT BUNCH OF AFFIRMATIVE ACTION LOVERS.


Give the nation a break. We now have UGLY SITUATIONS IN ILLINOIS, DELAWARE, NEW YORK AND NEW JERSEY - THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS SHOWING HOW UGLY AND OUT OF TOUCH WITH ITS BRAND IT REALLY IS.

Let's hear admissions of guilt from the democrats and apologies for their actions instead of attack attack attack. It is a joke.


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Posted by: Yes37thandORulesForever | December 24, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

mathas


YOU DEAL WITH IT ! And while you are at get, get that birth certificate and Indonesian passport !!!


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Posted by: Yes37thandORulesForever | December 24, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

"CLEARLY THERE IS A PROBLEM."

Yes 37, there is, and you have it.

You're beating a dead horse on which flies are starting to gather.

Apparently the Obama haters haven't figured it out yet. This guy has political skills that rival WJC's. He'll beat the poliitcal pants off of you, and just like Clinton (go ahead make a stupid joke) you wont know it's happened until after the fact.

Deal with it righties, Dems in charge for the next 8 years !

Posted by: mathas | December 24, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Yes37thandORulesForever | December 24, 2008 9:54 AM | Report abuse

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NOW the story is that Valerie Jarrett had telephone conversations with the union leaders about Blago's future jobs.


First, they claim that the discussion centered on Blago's desire to have a cabinet position to be ridiculous.


Then, they claim that they never spoke about Blago getting a job with the union. NOW with Valerie Jarrett so concerned with the transition and being so busy, WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD SHE BE ON THE TELEPHONE WITH UNION LEADERS TALKING ABOUT BLAGO IF IT WASN'T TO ARRANGE SOMETHING ???

It certainly is plausible that she was seeking to put out feelers to see if she could arrange something for Blago.

NOW if Obama's team could trade off what they had - and get the union to give Blago something - and that worked out as an exchange - but Obama's people really weren't giving anything directly - it was the union giving something - then what is that all about??? CLEARLY VALERIE WAS TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING HERE - CLEARLY SHE WOULD NOT BE MAKING ANY PHONE CALLS WITHOUT OBAMA KNOWIN ABOUT IT. CLEARLY THERE IS A PROBLEM.


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Posted by: Yes37thandORulesForever | December 24, 2008 9:45 AM | Report abuse

Ayers, Wright, Rezko now Blago.

You righties/Obama haters really need to let this go already.

The Blago scandal, that you wanted to open up like a present on Christmas morning to find some Obama complicity, is an empty box.

Prepare yourself now for the next eight years of Obama in the WH and Dems in control of Congress.

Deal with it !

Posted by: mathas | December 24, 2008 9:08 AM | Report abuse

Yep you betcha this Messiah Barack Obama cat sure doesn't know anything about anything at all,ever,ever folks..So please
give Oscar to Liar Elect Barack Hussein Obama for his lies as Liar of the Year..

Drain the Swamp Nancy Pelois by Impeaching
Liar Elect Barack Hussein Obama and Big
Mouth Joe Biden. Fire Axelrod and Goofy
Chicago Thug Rahm Emmanuel. Where did US Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald put those nice
shiny handcuffs and legirons now???

Posted by: Marilyn80 | December 24, 2008 8:51 AM | Report abuse


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Christopher Cox, the embattled chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission, is defending his restrained approach to the financial crisis, saying he has provided steady leadership as Wall Street's main regulator at a time when other federal regulators have responded precipitously


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Isn't this the same Christopher Cox who thought it was a good idea to distract President Clinton for years while the Islamic extremists running wild in the Middle East preparing to attack us????

AT some point someone has to tell Christopher Cox that he should get out of public life.


FOREVER.


Christopher Cox's record is one of the WORST IN AMERICAN HISTORY.

Christopher Cox should be held ACCOUNTABLE FOR HIS FAILURES. That is the problem with this country - a guy like Christopher Cox goes from job to job withough anyone holding him responsible. He is responsible for the lack of enforcement. Period. Why hasn't he resigned in disgrace ????

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Posted by: Yes37thandORulesForever | December 24, 2008 8:18 AM | Report abuse

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Some transistion huh?


Sounds like a little bit of Clinton mixed in with a bunch of Nixon.

I don't see any Lincoln in there.


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Posted by: Yes37thandORulesForever | December 24, 2008 7:42 AM | Report abuse

AND the report also says Obama was born in Hawaii, only Obama does not know which hospital because he said the name of a one hoposital - and his sister said the name of different hospital when asked where Obama was born.


SO Obama must have been born in 2 hospitals in America at the same time -


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Posted by: Yes37thandORulesForever | December 24, 2008 6:51 AM | Report abuse

armpeg is 100% correct. Obama knew nothing about any of those things. Its not like he is in politics or anything where people talk and talk about everything imaginable.


Posted by: Yes37thandORulesForever | December 24, 2008 6:41 AM | Report abuse

Finally a chink in PEBO's armor .. thought it might happen..but not this early on.

I will go ahead and predict that there are many more skeletons in the closets and that the media will be indicted for knowing about them all along.

Posted by: newbeeboy | December 24, 2008 6:19 AM | Report abuse

Lemme see now. * Barack Obama knew nothing about America--hating terrorists William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn who he was buddy-buddy with for 20 years and who ran his political campaign and helped him get elected in Chicago. According to Barack, they were just neighbors and people he got in contact with on occassion. * Barack Obama also knew nothing about his good friend and mentor Jerimiah Wright Jr.'s vile America--hating and racist white--hating sermons that he was spewing out most every Sunday, and never ever heard any of them, even though he and his family where sitting in their own front-row pew most every Sunday for more than 20 years--according to Obama's attendance claims. He never ever heard a thing. * Barack Obama also knew nothing about Jermiah Wright Jr, Otis Moss 3d, Michael Pfleger, and his own racist United for Christ Church's close assocciations with America--hater and racist white--hater Louis Farrakhan. 20 years of all this love and togetherness with these guys, and he didn't know a thing. * Barack Obama knew nothing about his friend and neighbor slum lord Tony Rezko corrupt dealings, who got him a sweetheart mortgage deal from, and who he steered state government contracts to, after getting elected to state office. * And now Barack Obama claims, once again, that he didn't know a thing about how dirty Chicago pay-to-play politics is, and knew nothing about Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich's trying to sell his old Senate seat to the highest bidder. Yeah, right, and pigs fly! Nobody gets anywhere in Chicago politics unless he's a player, and while Barack Obama will surely get away with it because of his skin color and because he's a politically correct Democrat and not a Republican, this guy was up to his goofy ears in the Chicago swamp muck. While Obama and the Democratic Party--controlled MSM are all in collution and in cover-up mode telling anybody that'll listen that Barack Obama is as clean as the new driven snow, there are still some of us who haven't fallen off of the Turnup Truck.

Posted by: armpeg | December 24, 2008 12:45 AM | Report abuse

BTW - what ever happened to Dianne72? It could be a nice political where are they now segment.

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AugustWest would be another... WilliePete, a terrible funk. When Bush stole his 2nd term I basically quit even reading the newspaper for month's. Hopefully they will be back as... like you, fun to skewer, pivot off of...

Posted by: angriestdogintheworld | December 23, 2008 10:59 PM | Report abuse

I am having trouble reading comments on other articles on post site. anybody else having problems? This is only one that would let me do anything

Posted by: waawaazaire | December 23, 2008 10:18 PM | Report abuse

BTW - what ever happened to Dianne72? It could be a nice political where are they now segment.

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Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | December 23, 2008 9:36 PM | Report abuse


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If you are involved in any scheme to limit the FREE SPEECH RIGHTS of any American citizen, you are in violation of the FEDERAL CIVIL RIGHTS ACTS.


It is quite simple.


We urge the Washington Post to investigate whether you are in conspiracy with others to limit the FREEDOM OF SPEECH, which is a civil right, of American Citizens.

You have been requested to cease and desist and you continue to taunt.


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Posted by: Yes37thandORulesForever | December 23, 2008 9:20 PM | Report abuse

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STOP attacking other posters on this forum. How many times do we have to tell you to stop these childish antics.


Grow Up.


If you have your own opinion, state it and support it


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Posted by: Yes37thandORulesForever | December 23, 2008 9:11 PM | Report abuse

"There's a fool in every city so there are a lot of fools to pity." -- Mr. T, 2005.

Has "Yes37thandORulesForever" changed her handle yet again? By my count, this is her 16th troll handle change. Previous troll handles include: 37thandORulesForever, 37thandORules, 37thandOStreet, 37thandO, DorchesterandCongress, and, for a couple of days, some goofy handle that had "army" in it. By the looks of it you're pushing for troll change 17. Go for it!

The part that you seem to miss, 37, is that the prosecutor exonerated O at the outset, right after Blags was arrested. Why do you go on and on after the case is closed (at least as to O and Rahm)? Further, it is SOP for a Member of Congress voluntarily resigning a seat to recommend candidates to fill the vacancy. That's not only appropriate to do, but expected....

Posted by: broadwayjoe | December 23, 2008 7:53 PM | Report abuse

"Er??

Is it not the case that the Obama people were gonna release the report ages ago (about the 15th i think)but were asked not to by Fitzgerald???

hmmm Chris? hmm?

Posted by: the_skilled99 | December 23, 2008 6:59 PM"

Ditto, brother. The prosecutor expressly asked O to hold off on releasing the report. And O complied with his request (if he hadn't, the press would have been on him for that). There's no story here; there never was. This is the imaginary Michelle "whitey" tape and the "forged" birth certificate all over again. When does it end? Madoff the Great allegedly ripped off more than the GNP of South America and central America combined, but the media is obsessed with junk that the prosecutor himself has already cleared O (and Rahm) of.

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Let's MAKE CLEAR THAT EVEN THOUGH BLAGO HAD THE SENATE SEAT UP FOR SALE - OBAMA WAS SUBMITTING VALERIE JARRETT'S NAME -- BUT OBAMA DID NOT KNOW THAT THE SEAT WAS FOR SALE - OBAMA WAS NEVER AWARE THAT BLAGO WANTED ANYTHING -


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- THERE WERE NO INDICATIONS MADE THAT OBAMA WOULD MAKE A DEAL WITH BLAGO

- VALERIE JARRETT KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT THIS EVEN THOUGH SHE WAS CALLING THE UNION OFFICIALS WHO BLAGO WANTED A JOB FROM

- EVEN THOUGH MICHELE OBAMA RECEIVED A JOB AT TREEHOUSE AND TRIPLED HER SALARY AFTER OBAMA BECAME SENATOR, THERE IS NO INDICATION THAT BLAGO'S WIFE WAS BEING CONSIDERED FOR ANYTHING BY OBAMA'S TEAM


IT TOOK WEEKS AND WEEKS FOR THE OBAMA TEAM TO WRITE A REPORT ABOUT NOTHING.


NOTHING.


NOTHING HAPPENED.


REALLY.


REALLY.


SERIOUSLY.


NOTHING HAPPENED.


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Posted by: Yes37thandORulesForever | December 23, 2008 7:32 PM | Report abuse

Er??

Is it not the case that the Obama people were gonna release the report ages ago (about the 15th i think)but were asked not to by Fitzgerald???

hmmm Chris? hmm?

Posted by: the_skilled99 | December 23, 2008 6:59 PM | Report abuse

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