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Audio: Cillizza and VandeHei Discuss Ky.'s 2nd

Chris Cillizza and Jim VandeHei were interviewed this morning on Washington Post Radio about the first day of their trip through congressional battleground districts in the Ohio River Valley.

Listen to the audio here.

Read their story from today's Post: Both Parties in Ky. "Both Parties in Ky. Battle Try to Take Right Flank."

By washingtonpost.com Editors  |  September 21, 2006; 8:34 AM ET
Categories:  House , Ohio River Ramble  
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Wow, Sara, some protesters "laid on the streets."

Those little thugs.

Posted by: Loudoun Voter | September 21, 2006 1:05 PM | Report abuse

I just read your post. You really are a little fascist, Sara. A disgusting little fascist.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2006 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Sara, in other words, you think it's okay to torture innocent American citizens, right?

You would have loved Hitler and Stalin.

Posted by: drindl | September 21, 2006 11:55 AM | Report abuse

About the NY Republican convention, I guess the left-wingers think it was free speech to have protestors spit on our delegates? Or maybe it was ok for that protestor to kick the head of a police officer after the group of protestors circled him and knocked him to the ground? Is that what you mean?
Violence by protestors (and there was a lot of it) is pure thuggery. These protestors also laid on the streets which prevented ordinary people in their cars from being free to travel, and they were not delegates.
Innocent? Hardly, the NY newspapers did a good job detailing and reporting the mayhem and chaos from the liberal/anti-Bush protestors. Their rich lawyer buddies came to their rescue to whine about their mistreatment while being detained in an old warehouse since the jails were full. Hmmm? Sitting on a dirty floor is mistreatment? Like they were expecting a hotel room?
While it took a long time to get through the security checks, once I was inside Madison Square Gardens, I knew I was safe from the thugs and the troublemakers who clogged the streets.
One more point, Terry McAuliffe threatened the city of New York that he would not bring the Democrats town for their convention IF the Republicans were being considered. Mayor Bloomberg offered to hold both conventions but the Democrats wanted to control the site selection with their threats. Too bad, since Boston had their own problems at the convention as well.
The protestors in New York created a horrible mess, but pushing delegates, screaming in their faces and even making threats on the subway. It was a real shame to see human beings acting like animals, so full of hate toward other people they would spit on them and use foul language. It was really disgusting and I can not believe any Democrat would be proud of the antics from those protestors.

Posted by: Sara Williams | September 21, 2006 11:21 AM | Report abuse

"Some of the most vile white supremacists, neo-nazis and would-be mass murderers are right among us."

On that note it's funny how quickly Broder has forgotten Timothy McVeigh. The moral gap between the 'left' and the 'right' couldn't be more obvious at this point in history.

Posted by: Judge C. Crater | September 21, 2006 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Charlton Ogburn Jr., Harper's Magazine (1957) recounting his experiences as a junior officer in World War II:

"We trained hard, but it seemed that every time we were beginning to form up into teams we would be reorganised. Presumably the plans for our employment were being changed. I was to learn later in life that, perhaps because we are so good at organising, we tend as a nation to meet any new situation by reorganising; and a wonderful method it can be for creating the illusion of progress while producing confusion, inefficiency and demoralization."

(frequently - and erroneously - attributed to Petronius 27 - 66 AD)

Posted by: Judge C. Crater | September 21, 2006 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Thucydides's History of the Peloponnesian War: "The meaning of words had no longer the same relation to things, but was changed by them as they thought proper. Reckless daring was held to be loyal courage; prudent delay was the excuse of a coward; moderation was the disguise of unmanly weakness; to know everything was to do nothing. Frantic energy was the true quality of a man."

Posted by: jane | September 21, 2006 10:10 AM | Report abuse

Anyone know how the races in Georgia are going?

'More wisdom from Georgia Republicans
On Tuesday, Republican Congressman Lynn Westmoreland of Georgia proudly boasted to a local Chamber of Commerce that he had "voted for torture." Today he reconsidered, saying perhaps he should have "put that another way." ("I should have said I voted against the anti-torture bill," he explained. So he's not pro-torture, evidently -- just anti-anti-torture.) '

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2006 9:42 AM | Report abuse

Why torturing possibly innocent people is ok, according to a rightwing website:

'In waterboarding, a piece of cloth is held tightly over the face, and water is poured onto the cloth. Breathing is extremely difficult and the victim will be in fear of imminent death by asphyxiation (which is a hell of a lot better than actually dying, which is known to occur when one's head is removed from their neck). However, it is relatively difficult to aspirate a large amount of water since the lungs are higher than the mouth, and the victim is unlikely to actually die if this is done by skilled practitioners.'

--'unlikely' to die... if done by 'skilled' practioners. right.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2006 9:40 AM | Report abuse

Pop quiz:

Who founded the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq?

A. A prominent Iraqi political exile.

B. Bruce Jackson, former Lockheed Martin vice president

C. Neoconservatives William Kristol and Paul Wolfowitz.

Answer: B.

What does this mean? To understand our nation's foreign policy, including military interventions, follow the money.

For war profiteers, soldiers returning maimed or in caskets, and a $500 billion Pentagon budget paid for by the taxes of ordinary citizens, are externalities -- costs and consequences borne by others.

There is nothing new about weapons manufacturers encouraging wars and profiteering from them.

During the Civil War, President Lincoln stated that those profiteering from defective weapons "ought to have their devilish heads shot off."

In his famous farewell address, President Eisenhower warned the nation of the "undue influence" of the military-industrial complex, and the need to control it.

As the war in Iraq grinds on at a cost of more than $250 million per day, and another contractor-heavy organization, the Iran Policy Committee, calls for a pre-emptive strike against Iran, there is a dire need to act on his warning.

Pentagon contractors' congressional allies routinely defeat or bury in committee initiatives that could curtail war profiteering. This June, for example, all 55 Senate Republicans voted to kill an amendment strengthening laws governing waste, fraud and abuse in defense (43 of 45 Democrats voted for it).

--$250 million PER DAY in iraq --down the toilet.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2006 9:26 AM | Report abuse

Just have to say to those WaPo guys out on the road, you are breaking the old mold and building a new one.

This is the cutting edge, you are on it, and you will be emulated for it. Profusely and immediately.

Congratulations on this new venue, call it "instant internet" TV, its been attempted by the MSM, but you guys are actually inventing it, right now, your publisher's don't deserve you.

Just one word of advice form a gnarly old cameraman; don't slow down for inaccessible perfection, your first take is probably your best...

Keep it real.

Posted by: JEP | September 21, 2006 9:22 AM | Report abuse

Using Torture on Your Enemies --like Democrats:

ABC News reported in 2004 that there were active discussions to use sonic weaponry against demonstrators during the Republican National Convention in New York.'

"The Air Force secretary says nonlethal weapons such as high-power microwave devices should be used on American citizens in crowd-control situations before they are used on the battlefield." These weapons, which cause "intolerable pain" and have been condemned by scientists as mass torture devices, may be coming soon to a demonstration near you. And there are stranger and more lethal weapons where these came from.

The Secretary, Michael Wynne, is a longtime exec at defense contractor General Dynamics - a fox now in charge of the henhouse. The weapon he was describing is "intended to cause heating and intolerable pain in less than five seconds," as described in this Australian newspaper account.

And guess which company is one of the world's leaders in military microwave technology? General Dynamics. So you can rest assured that Wynne's very knowledgeable about this technology's intended use here and abroad, both by the military and other agencies.

Microwave beam devices are just one of a number of new weapons under development that could be used against US crowds. This article in Defense Update magazine describes the variety of anti-personnel energy weapons being developed by the Department of Defense. These include the Laser Induced Plasma Channel (LIPC) pictured above, which can "work like 'artificial lightning' to disable human targets" and "can be adjusted for non-lethal or lethal use."

Other weapons being developed include the "Pulsed Energy Projectile" (PEP) device which, as New Scientist explains, "delivers a bout of excruciating pain from up to 2 kilometres away." New Scientist observes that "pain researchers are furious that (medical research) aimed at controlling pain has been used to develop a weapon," adding that "they fear that the technology will be used for torture."

The Wynne story came and went so quickly that radio journalist Charles Goyette from KFNX in Phoenix tried to follow up. An interview was scheduled with the Air Force Secretary's spokesman, USAF Major Aaron Burgstein, to get elaboration on the Secretary's remarks. But Burgstein cancelled at the last minute without explanation.'

Could someone remind me what country this is? Or what century?

Posted by: louisa | September 21, 2006 9:15 AM | Report abuse

I should mail him some of the charming death threats I've had from wingers -- particularly when they talk in detail about what they'd like to do to my children. Broder's stupidity and igorance make him dangerously naive. Like most of the precious, pantywaist 'jounalists' in DC, he has no idea precisely how evil, how vicious, how murderous, the rightwing in this country is. Some of the most vile white supremacists, neo-nazis and would-be mass murderers are right among us.

The worst enemy we face is right here.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 21, 2006 9:04 AM | Report abuse

From Broder's column http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/20/AR2006092001586.html: "the vituperative, foul-mouthed bloggers on the left and the doctrinaire religious extremists on the right who would convert their faith into a whipping post for their opponents."

Funny, the words "vituperative, foul-mouthed bloggers" immediately made me think of bhoomes and KOZ. David Broder's column is good but he obviously needs to spend some time somewhere other than right-wing echo chambers. The 'left' as he calls it (which is really the center at this point in history) isn't even close to cornering the market for uncouth language.

Posted by: Judge C. Crater | September 21, 2006 8:53 AM | Report abuse

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