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Report: Palin Misused Legal Defense Fund

Update, 6:11 a.m. (7/22): Sarah Palin has responded to a report that she misstepped when setting up a legal defense fund with this statement:

"I find the notion that I have taken any action pertaining to the legal defense trust fund misguided and factually in error. I am informed that this fund was created by experienced attorneys in DC and was modeled after other similar funds established for senators and others. The fund itself was not created by me nor is it controlled by me. Neither I nor my lawyer has received a penny from this fund, and I am informed the Trustee was withholding any action or payment pending final resolution with the Personnel Board. This is the hallmark of legal compliance and prudent conduct.
In short, I have not 'acted' relative to the defense fund and it is misleading to say I have. I have no doubt that the Trust will welcome guidance by the Board, as do we all, but it is my understanding that this matter was not resolved and the complainant's violation of law has served to mislead the public and prejudice a fair review of this matter."

Update, 10:15 p.m.: Randy Evans, the attorney who helped Palin set up the Alaska Trust Fund, released a statement moments ago dismissing the allegation that there was any impropriety in its founding as "absolutely untrue".

Added Evans: "It was specifically patterned after well recognized trusts of prior Presidential candidates as well as high profile public servants. As with other public servants, there is no impropriety in the creation or operation of such a trust and any suggestion to the contrary is candidly absurd."

Evans, a partner in the firm of McKenna, Long & Aldridge, is a well known Republican attorney, having served as outside counsel to then Speakers Newt Gingrich (Ga.) and Dennis Hastert (Ill.).

Update, 9:35 p.m.: Palin's attorney, Thomas Van Flein, has released a second statement making clear that the soon-to-be-former Alaska governor is looking into her legal options.

Van Flein promised that he would be "contacting the appropriate authorities for review and action."

Original Post

Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin (R) may have misused a legal defense fund, according to a report obtained by the Associated Press.

The report, which is a product of an independent investigator affiliated with the state's Personnel Board, claims that Palin "used or attempted to use her official position for personal gain because she authorized the creation of the trust as the 'official' legal defense fund," the AP story says.

Palin's attorney, Thomas Van Flein, said in a statement that the investigation is still pending, adding, "Whatever you have seen was released in violation of law. There has been no Board finding of an ethics violation, and there is a detailed legal process to follow before there is a final resolution."

And Palin spokeswoman Meg Stapleton noted that "it appears suspect that in the final days of the Governor's term, someone would again violate the law and announce a supposed conclusion before it is reached."

Palin has been the subject of a bevy of ethics complaints since being named as the Republican vice presidential nominee in 2008. To date, all of the complaints have been dismissed.

At the center of this particular controversy is the Alaska Fund Trust, a legal defense fund set up by backers of Palin in late April and designed to help defray her mounting legal costs.

At issue is whether Palin as the governor of the Last Frontier can legally solicit donations for an "official" legal defense fund. Members of Congress are allowed to raise money for legal defense funds as long as the charges against them are tied to something in their official work; it's not clear whether Alaska law offers a different standard.

It's not clear how much money has been raised for the Trust since its formation although public reports said the group had raised more than $130,000 in a recent fundraising push.

Palin will formally resign as governor on Sunday, a decision propelled, according to those close to her, by the flurry of ethics complaints that have dogged her since last year.

By Chris Cillizza  |  July 21, 2009; 6:19 PM ET
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"Total loser"...."incompetent"...."trailer trash"...."dimwit"....

The tolerance and acceptance by liberals on this board is heart-warming.

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Cry me a river, Cletus.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 23, 2009 1:24 AM | Report abuse

douglasbarber, actually, the majority of the ethics complaints were filed by REPUBLICANS, not Democrats. And for those saying the ethics complaints were all filed after the campaign, WRONG! The biggest one - Troopergate - was filed by the legislative house in Alaska before she was chosen as McLame's running mate. Not only that, the breakdown of the legislators on the committee that decided to charge her with the ethics complaint in Troopergate were majority Republican; something like 12 and only 4 Democrats. Not only that, but their independent investigator found that she was guilty of ethics violations. She filed the Troopergate ethics complaint with the Personnel Board HERSELF and of course, they hold their positions by virtue of her pleasure so they found she had not violated any ethics standards.

Of the other complaints filed by Alaskan Republicans, she ended up having to pay back taxes on the per diem she charged the state for living in her own house and she also had to pay the state $8,100 for the trips for her children that she claimed were for state business. She settled with the state of Alaska to avoid prosecution for these complaints. Tell me again how all the complaints have been dismissed.

*crickets*

Yeah, I thought so.

Posted by: sanantoniorose | July 22, 2009 8:35 PM | Report abuse

There's poor Jake, groveling for attention again.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 22, 2009 8:31 PM | Report abuse

jiggy1119:

If you don't understand the questions I've ask you on this thread, please let me know.

Posted by: JakeD | July 22, 2009 7:46 PM | Report abuse

*sigh* after spending far more time than i should on reading these comments ... i come back to the question, "why is this news?" the palin phenomenon was a quick whiff of crack for a doomed mccain candidacy desperately groping for a hallucination of hope. the countdown (four - more - days!) governor of alaska is now completely irrelevant except perhaps to future political science graduate students equally desperate for a novel dissertation topic. both r w reagan and g w bush have served as painful examples of the pitfalls of selecting a packaged image of an uncomplicated frontier persona to serve in the role of chief executive. this "news" should be filed in the "where are they now?" department of the entertainment section.

Posted by: jrm1 | July 22, 2009 7:39 PM | Report abuse

When did Gov. Palin say that she could see Russia from her living room?

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ONCE AGAIN: Sarah Palin said she can see Russia from an island in Alaska, by way of claiming national security credentials.

This is in no way less idiotic than claiming to see it from her house, or from her living room.

Don't you ever stop lying?

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 22, 2009 7:36 PM | Report abuse

"Most Presidential assassins have been leftwingers Posted by: muawiyah "

John Wilkes Booth was a States Rights, pro Confederacy, pro slavery Democrat, so essentially what currently serves as the republican party base.

Charles Giteau was a disgruntled republican Office Seeker.

Leon Czolgosz was an anarchist, more a libertarian who " hated Plutocrats"

Guiseppe Zangara was a maniac who hated Rich People, although there have been attempts to prove he really was after Anton Cermak, and not FDR.

While Lee Harvey Oswald was certainly a Russian Communist returnee, just what he was really about is hard to pin down.

John Hinklee was just flat out nuts.

Sarah Moore was an NRA member and a tried and true conservative.

Lynette Fromme was nuts.

John Schrank was nuts.

More than one person tried to shoot Jackson, several in duels they came to regret. Th duel in which he killed Dickenson has been called legalized murder, as Jackson first assumed a deceptive stance, which saved his life, and then, when his pistol fell to half cocked, giving Dickenson another shot, Jackason recocked his pistol and killed Dickenson.

Tell us again about Assassins and liberals?

Posted by: ceflynline | July 22, 2009 5:37 PM | Report abuse

jiggy1119:

When did Gov. Palin say that she could see Russia from her living room? When were YOU elected Governor of any State?

Posted by: JakeD | July 22, 2009 5:16 PM | Report abuse

"Actually, MOST American assasination attempts have been by left wingers.

John Wilkes Booth, democrat.
Lee Harvey Oswald, communist sympathizer.
Sirhan-Sirhan, Muslim fundamentalist, communist
Lynette "Squeaky" Fraum, Manson chic, communist

The only one we aren't sure of, is Mark Chapman, the loon who shot Reagan"

Mark Chapman shot John Lennon. John Hinkley shot President Reagan.

If you can't even get your assassins or would-be assassins right there's no credibility at all with anything else you have to say.

BTW, Timothy James McVeigh was not a liberal. Remember him? The patriotic conservative U.S. citizen who murdered 168 innocent people in Oklahoma City?

Posted by: kpharmer | July 22, 2009 4:49 PM | Report abuse

The tolerance and acceptance by liberals on this board is heart-warming.

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Weren't you saying that liberals are against personal responsibility?

Or was it another one of you?

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 22, 2009 3:23 PM | Report abuse

dbw -- please, whine some more. you people never stop. i don't recall any 'tolerance' shown by palin for obama when she was calling him a terrorist and inciting people to murder him.

Posted by: drindl | July 22, 2009 1:44 PM | Report abuse

The political "Three Stooges" Bush, Chaney @ Palin.
From a "C minus" President, a paranoid ballheaded vice president and a "small town moron that can see Russia from her living room. We have to be thankful that this is in the past.
Palin wouldn't make a good manager in a "nickel pool room" if McCain was racking the balls.

Posted by: jiggy1119 | July 22, 2009 12:17 PM | Report abuse

"Total loser"...."incompetent"...."trailer trash"...."dimwit"....

The tolerance and acceptance by liberals on this board is heart-warming.

Posted by: dbw1 | July 22, 2009 11:27 AM | Report abuse

By the way, I wonder if the Fix and the Palin-haters on the board have yet read the story this morning about Democrat governer Tim Kaine making numerous DNC trips while simultaneously acting as Virgina's governor.

This, by the way, is the underlying issue of many of the 'ethics complaints' against Sarah Palin (that she was doing non-governor duties while she was supposed to be 'governoring'). I wonder how many of these self-righteous liberals will rush to the Virginia statehouse to file ethics complaints.

One of his trips included a stop in Casablanca. I'm sure there was very important Virginia state business happening there, no?

Posted by: dbw1 | July 22, 2009 11:24 AM | Report abuse

It is obvious that the Democratic party is scared to death at the charisma of Palin. All these unproven ethic charges may ultimately backfire against the party.

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Backlash is the opiate of the neoconservatives

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 22, 2009 11:18 AM | Report abuse

DDAWD:

"We've got 50 governors in the country. It doesn't seem like anyone else goes through this."

Do some research. Add up how many ethics complaints were filed against Palin before the day she was announced as McCain's running mate. Now, add up how many ethics complaints have been filed against her since.

The answer should help clear up your confusion as to what this is all about...

Posted by: dbw1 | July 22, 2009 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Sheeshh, talk about selective reporting.

Once again I can click my way over to the Wash Post and be confidently assured of getting a left-slanted story that leaves out some fairly important facts. As giddy as you are about getting to rush to press yet another Palin-ethics-violation story, some details may be problematic for your Palin-hatin':

1) the trust was not a secret, and was set up after consultation with numerous attorneys who assured Palin it was valid. If you have 10 attorneys tell you something you want to do is ok and has been done previously by other politicians (read: Bill Clinton), and it turns out later that they might be wrong because of unique Alaska laws, does that mean you are 'corrupt' and evil?

2) the Fix conveniently missed the fact that the same attorney quoted as saying the legal trust set up by Palin MAY be a violation of state law also said that Palin should REQUEST REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE STATE FOR MOST OF HER LEGAL BILLS!!!! He agrees that most of the legal costs she is trying to pay to defend frivilous ethics complaints should be the state's obligation, not hers.

3) the same attorney The Fix gleefully quotes as concluding Palin "may have" violated Alaska regulations in setting up the legal trust ALSO says it's clear the Alaska legislature needs to set up an office to handle ethics complaints against their governors. You know, like most every other state has. As the Fix above begrudgingly admits, every single ethics complaint 1) has come since Palin became a VP candidate last year (can you say "politically motivated"?), and 2) has ultimately been dismissed. But Alaska is unique in being among a small minority of states that does not have a state-funded office to defend it's governor against frivilous complaints, so it's up to the governor to pay for legal defense out of their own pocket.

Get your facts straight, Democrats and Wash Post. (that was probably redundant...)

Posted by: dbw1 | July 22, 2009 11:10 AM | Report abuse

PALIN IN 2012!!!!!

I can't wait to see her platform on Meth and Hemi engines for all.

hahahhahahahaahah

Posted by: theobserver4 | July 22, 2009 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Some of you all are comic genius's!

"the charisma of Palin"

"new visions by Dinesh D'souza"

"assassination attempts on Palin"

HILARIOUS!

LoL

Keep 'em coming, folks!

Posted by: free-donny | July 22, 2009 10:32 AM | Report abuse

We all knew that she was just a corrupt, incompetent, trailer trash dimwit- how much more proof do the wingnuts need? This little phony actually had some people fooled- how sad for America that we allow such gullible morons to vote!

Posted by: losthorizon10 | July 21, 2009 7:11 PM | Report abuse


Go Murtha!!!! LOL Talk about stup1d.

Posted by: askgees | July 22, 2009 10:19 AM | Report abuse

It is obvious that the Democratic party is scared to death at the charisma of Palin. All these unproven ethic charges may ultimately backfire against the party.

Posted by: sportsfan2 | July 22, 2009 9:55 AM | Report abuse

Broadwayjoe, you're killing me! How about these future headlines:

New Visions from Dinesh D'Souza
Newt Gingrich is BACK and the GOP has got him!
"Don't bury me 'cause I'm not dead yet" declares Phyllis Schlafly
The Next Thing will come from the C Street House
Jonah Goldberg see great things ahead for the GOP
Mitch Daniels has Big Ideas, Big Plans
Richard Shelby: Ready to take the Reins!

Posted by: margaretmeyers | July 22, 2009 9:53 AM | Report abuse

(in a posting re "left" assassins): The only one we aren't sure of, is Mark Chapman, the loon who shot Reagan.
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Mark Chapman shot and killed John Lennon. John Hinckley (sp?) shot Reagan.

Posted by: baltimoremom | July 22, 2009 9:39 AM | Report abuse

Has Palin selected running-mate yet? I hear Sanford, Ensign, and Vitter are on the "short-list". Cheney's available...no telling how much longer though.

Posted by: free-donny | July 22, 2009 8:55 AM | Report abuse

After reading Palin's coherent statement, complete with big words, I had to wonder who wrote it for her.

Posted by: Utahreb | July 22, 2009 8:53 AM | Report abuse

pgr --

"libtards" -- ???? -- if that's the best (or would that be the worst?) Michelle Malkin can come up with, the rest of us can relax . . . another Obama/Biden blowout is assured for 2012.

Thanks!

And, please! stick Liz Cheney on the ticket with her! -- or someone else with the name Bush (Jeb? Neill?), while you're at it -- it will serve as a constant reminder of all the damage the last Cheney/Bush wrecking crew did.

Sister Sarah sure has Reverend Hucksterbee worried, doesn't she . . . if she forms a third party, she'll take Mike's base (evangelical freaks) with her . . . uhh-ohhh . . .

Hahahaha!! How deliciously ironic!

Posted by: thesuperclasssux | July 22, 2009 8:42 AM | Report abuse

didn't she say that the complaints against her werre costing the tax payers milllions? The actual amount is less than $150,000, so one more thing she exaggerated. I don't know about this case but it feeds into her "I'm always the victim" scenario. If she didn't go around making such statements maybe she wouldn't be so misunderstood, and stupid cases like this wouldn't have happened. She brings on so much of this crap herself by not dealing with things in a competent and efficient manner. That was one of the biggest complaints about her from staff, both state and campaign. She wasn't very organized. We all know it's hard, especially with kids, but strict organization is key to being competent and successful as a public servant.

Posted by: katem1 | July 22, 2009 8:39 AM | Report abuse

Shocked. This doubly qualifies her as the Republican candidate.

Especially. IQ wise 20 or so percent of the American public will vote for her because that 20 percent is also their collective IQ.

The remaining 80% has an IQ over 21 and sees right, straight through her crap.

Posted by: jato11 | July 22, 2009 8:35 AM | Report abuse

This report comes from Associated Press and was written by Rachel D'Ore. Since they rarely get anything right about Governor Palin, we shouls view this report with a grain of salt.

Posted by: GeneCar | July 22, 2009 5:52 AM | Report abuse

As for Palin...

I know this is circumstantial, so lawyers may want to avert their gazes.


But who exactly are all these Democrats that are tormenting Palin? Isn't Alaska supposed to be a crimson red state? Yeah, I suppose it only takes one person to file a complaint, but it seems like it's got to be harder for these things to have legs, right? We've got 50 governors in the country. It doesn't seem like anyone else goes through this. Perhaps it's an Alaska thing? Do all Alaskan governors spend a ton of time going through all this mess? I know her popularity has dropped, but she's still got a good approval rating, right?

It really doesn't add up.

Posted by: DDAWD | July 22, 2009 4:00 AM | Report abuse

"

The NYT asks,

"Should the rich pay for the uninsured?"

Who do the rich think made them rich?

Do the rich actually think they "made" the wealth they control?

The people right now who have nothing did themselves not make rich people rich. But their relatives sure did."

You know, Jon Stewart was interviewing Kathleen Sebelius. He made a joke about if rich people like him would be paying more taxes to cover the uninsured, does that mean he can go around and demand that poor people stop smoking? Obviously he was being factitious, but there is a lot of truth in that statement.

Remember that part of the problem is that health care costs are skyrocketing. Taxing the rich will do not a damn thing to solve this problem.

Um, just read this
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/07/case-against-case-against-taxing-health.html

Posted by: DDAWD | July 22, 2009 3:49 AM | Report abuse

gary4205, that's a real temple to dishonesty you built there.

First of all, you redefine the question from assassinations to assassination attempts. You list five. There are more like twenty. You don't even mention all the attempts that actually succeeded. Could you be more obvious about picking facts to fit your argument? Lame. Really, really lame.

Booth, democrat? Um. Remember how you all like to argue that Democrats are actually the racist party because 60 years ago Democrats were all Southern Conservatives and Republicans were all Northern Liberals? That means that a Democrat 140 years ago was a Conservative. Booth believed in states rights and white supremacy, just like you and your Republican buddies do today. Got it? No? Probably not, I know. Adding a third dimension to your republican-democrat dichotomy is probably a total mind-f, isn't it?

Wow. Wave that stupid liar flag with pride, dude.

Posted by: nodebris | July 22, 2009 2:23 AM | Report abuse

"Where do you crybabies get this crap?"

From the fat lame slob Jonah Goldberg. His book is the epitome of stupidity and broadly mocked, but that's no hurdle to your average wing-nut.

Posted by: nodebris | July 22, 2009 2:11 AM | Report abuse

Actually, MOST American assasination attempts have been by left wingers.

John Wilkes Booth, democrat.
Lee Harvey Oswald, communist sympathizer.
Sirhan-Sirhan, Muslim fundamentalist, communist
Lynette "Squeaky" Fraum, Manson chic, communist

The only one we aren't sure of, is Mark Chapman, the loon who shot Reagan.

Remember, it was the democrat party who founded the White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, as basically a domestic terrorism arm, after the Civil War, with the mission of taking down the Republican party. (go look it up)

Just because the conservatives believe in guns, doesn't make us terrorists. In fact, go read history, our founders understood the real need to allow law abiding citizens gun ownership. Hit, it ain't about hunting, or even personal protection!

But it's a moot point, because the 2nd Amendment guarantees the right to own a gun.

When the people fear the government, that's tyranny. When the government fears the people, that's liberty!

Posted by: gary4205 | July 22, 2009 2:10 AM | Report abuse

"Most Presidential assassins have been leftwingers"

That's one of those posts that's like putting a sign on your forehead with big red letters spelling "I'm Stupid."

Presidential Assassins:
Booth: right-wing
Guiteau: right-wing
Czolgosz: left-wing
Oswald: defies description.

What you mean are "most of the assassins I care to think about are left wing." That's the conservative disease. The world looks just the way you want it to, as long as you only look at the part that makes sense to you.

Posted by: nodebris | July 22, 2009 2:07 AM | Report abuse

Jake is kinda funny in a train wreck sort of way because he's so pompous. He takes himself so seriously and expects to be taken so seriously. You answer my questions first. For the record. Dude it's a blog, we're killing time here.

But zouk is just sto0pit. The name mangling is just childish, the rage is just over the top. As someone put it so well a few months ago, he's not even worth insulting.

But I really do think he's institutionalized.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 22, 2009 2:04 AM | Report abuse

I think if zouk were alive eight hundred years ago, he would self-flagellate. That's the closest equivalent I can think of to the obsessive dose of self-humiliation he subjects himself to here every day. No one responds or encourages, no one else is whipping him. He does it all himself. Grotesquely fascinating. Gets old, though.

Posted by: nodebris | July 22, 2009 1:57 AM | Report abuse

More bogus ethics complaints. This one has ALREADY been filed once and thrown out!

Andree McLeod is a loon, and a serial ethics complaint filer. She is angry that Palin wouldn't pull strings and get her a job.

http://alaskapride.blogspot.com/2009/05/anchorage-ethics-queen-andree-mcleod.html

The democrat operatives in Alaska are tenacious, if nothing else. These losers have cost the Alaska tax payers over $2 million since the first of the year, as the personnel board is forced to investigate even the most absurd "complaints."

These complaints include: Wearing a jacket, in sub zero weather, being photographed holding a fish (I kid you not) being interviewed on camera, and accepting a cake and cookies. (again, I kid you not!)

These losers were on track to steal as much as $10 million tax payer dollars had Palin not outsmarted them by stepping down.

Also, it is illegal to publicize the ethics complaints, because of Alaska privacy law, but the first thing the democrats do is let their buddies in the media, especially those over at the hate site, Huffington Post, know about it! So much for actually caring about the law!

Someone mentioned an assassination attempt on Sarah Palin. Close, some thugs tried to burn her church down, at Christmas time. There were people in it.

It was very similar to the fire bombs domestic terrorist William Ayers used to set. The exits were blocked. Luckily, the fire systems worked. No one was injured. It did millions of dollars worth of damage to her church. No one has ever been caught. But it was not a local, according to investigators.

I'll be glad when Plain gets down to the lower 48 and takes Obama and his communist Chicago street thug administration down.

Palin/Cheney (Liz) 2012

Posted by: gary4205 | July 22, 2009 1:54 AM | Report abuse

Most Presidential assassins have been leftwingers

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Naah the whole gun thing is *so* right-wing dah ling

Kennedy was offed because he was going to close some tax loopholes enjoyed by the very wealthy, or maybe it was for Bay of Pigs, or a whole buncha reasons, where exactly do you see "left wing" fitting into this?

John Wilkes Booth was a commie? Who knew!

Idiot.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 22, 2009 1:53 AM | Report abuse

I wonder why they fear her so much???

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heh heh heh yeah fear

you hang onto that straw like grim death, y'hear?

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 22, 2009 1:50 AM | Report abuse

Good luck, libtards.

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She resigned her governorship and she's finished in politics.

Luck's holding.

Deal.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 22, 2009 1:48 AM | Report abuse

ZERO "ethics complaints" before she was the VP candidate, but suddenly there are 18 over the last year - all of which have been dismissed.

The libtards will never give up trying to smear Palin. I wonder why they fear her so much???

Posted by: pgr88 | July 22, 2009 1:21 AM | Report abuse

The Libs keep trying, don't they? ZERO ethics complaints before she was the VP candidate, but over the last year, there have been 18 "ethics complaints" - all dismissed as baseless.

Good luck, libtards.

Posted by: pgr88 | July 22, 2009 1:19 AM | Report abuse

Losers , misfits and morons. The Fix is getting tired.

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So what exactly do you get out of posting here, zouk? Nobody bothers to respond to you, even for insults, hardly anyone even reads your childish screeds, what possible satisfaction can you derive from it? Does that infantile name-calling give you some kind of catharsis?

If you vanished one day, nobody would care.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 22, 2009 12:36 AM | Report abuse

Democrats are just naturally Fascistic by temperment

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Where do you crybabies get this crap?

Link to these assassination attempts on Palin?

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 22, 2009 12:05 AM | Report abuse

Seems as if Richard Wolff ought to have saved the title 'Renegade' for a book about Palin--although he wouldn't have written about her. There's always 'Going Rogue'.

At some point, Chris, the Gov. Sanford stuff began to pall, but Palin is still newsworthy, I regret to say.

Posted by: sverigegrabb | July 22, 2009 12:03 AM | Report abuse

Democrats are just naturally Fascistic by temperment and training so it's not surprising they'd be working to deny Governor Palin funding to defend herself from these frivolous and phoney attacks.

At the same time there've been assassination attempts made against her, friends of hers, church associates and others close to her.

Most Presidential assassins have been leftwingers ~ so I'd imagine the same people trying to kill Sarah Palin and those around her have something to do with the spurious complaints, and with the hate speech against her that fills the comments sections at the WarshPost and other papers.

Posted by: muawiyah | July 21, 2009 11:52 PM | Report abuse

The NYT asks,

"Should the rich pay for the uninsured?"

Who do the rich think made them rich?

Do the rich actually think they "made" the wealth they control?

The people right now who have nothing did themselves not make rich people rich. But their relatives sure did.

Posted by: shrink2 | July 21, 2009 11:33 PM | Report abuse

There are pet shelters all over the country that are euthanizing healthy animals dropped off by owners who have lost their jobs.

Stir fry. Mmmmmm.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | July 21, 2009 10:25 PM | Report abuse

To date, all of the complaints have been dismissed.

Back to fanning the flames of moonbattery cc?

You have chosen quantity as a substitute for quality. Look at your posters. Dingbat drivl, commie chrisuxcox etc. Losers , misfits and morons. The Fix is getting tired.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | July 21, 2009 10:19 PM | Report abuse

What a surprise another unethical act by Palin. There is a related post at http://iamsoannoyed.com/?page_id=588

Posted by: carlyt | July 21, 2009 9:46 PM | Report abuse

I don't know; there may be more to this, but from what's described it sounds like no more than a niggle.

To me, Palin's inadequacy is not based on a belief in her corruption. I don't imagine her as some boreal boss Tweedy. Just not presidential material, by a long shot. Apparently, not even gubernatorial material, by her own estimation.

Posted by: nodebris | July 21, 2009 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Aren't the final days of her term more tha a yaer away?

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People were being mean to her and the job wasn't fun anymore.

So she quit.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 21, 2009 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Palin spokeswoman Meg Stapleton
noted that "it appears suspect that
in the final days of the Governor's
term, someone would again violate
the law and announce a supposed
conclusion before it is reached."


Did anybody else notice? Aren't the final days of her term more tha a yaer away?

Posted by: mikedow1 | July 21, 2009 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Opa2:

At least she didn't get the Erin Andrews treatment (yet ; )

Posted by: JakeD | July 21, 2009 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else?

Posted by our local cretin

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Figures you don't give a crap about animals. What a useless piece of garbage you are

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 21, 2009 9:20 PM | Report abuse

Yes. If prosecutors can whip up a case against *her* out of thin air, they can whip up a case against, oh, I don't know, maybe DouglasLBarber or chrisfox8.

And I've studied this case, and it's whipped up out of thin air.

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OK, have it your way, I too am against dogging Palin with frivolous ethics complaints. I hate her guts but I'm against legal abuse. I do think there was something there in Troopergate but she skated on that and it's over.

As for me, I've already been through the legal wringer .. old lady was murdered next door to me in '73, six months later the cops tried to build up a case against me, probably figuring they could parlay homosexuality into hatred of women. I retained and attorney and never heard from them again. Were I poor, I would probably have died in prison.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 21, 2009 9:15 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else?

Posted by: JakeD | July 21, 2009 9:13 PM | Report abuse

No FUNDS have been used -- even though I donated the maximum $150

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If you want to throw your money away why don't you do some good with it instead? There are pet shelters all over the country that are euthanizing healthy animals dropped off by owners who have lost their jobs. Don't you think they deserve your money more than some stupid harpy up in Alaska?

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 21, 2009 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Be well, JakeD.

Posted by: douglaslbarber | July 21, 2009 9:12 PM | Report abuse

chrisfox8 asked, "Aside from wishing she would go the hell away, does anyone care about her?"

Yes. If prosecutors can whip up a case against *her* out of thin air, they can whip up a case against, oh, I don't know, maybe DouglasLBarber or chrisfox8.

And I've studied this case, and it's whipped up out of thin air.

Posted by: douglaslbarber | July 21, 2009 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Good night, douglaslbarber.

Posted by: JakeD | July 21, 2009 9:10 PM | Report abuse

If you are a Democrat and think this is how you should argue against Sarah Palin, please raise your right hand.

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All the Democrats I know of want her to stay in the public eye and keep bringing down the GOP.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 21, 2009 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Rachel D'Oro, Kimberly Kindy and Philip Rucker "may" have violated state and federal laws by smoking crack cocaine! See how easy it is to post unsubstantiated rumor?

No FUNDS have been used -- even though I donated the maximum $150 -- this report is not even final and Alaska law was broken releasing it. Hopefully, all of this attention will spur more funds to the AFT:

http://www.thealaskafundtrust.com/

or

http://www.sarahpac.com/donate

Posted by: JakeD | July 21, 2009 9:08 PM | Report abuse

Well I really botched that didn't I.

Democrats are dogging Palin with spurious ethics complaints. Now, they've got someone in state government to say that it was unethical for her to raise funds to defend herself against these complaints.

I guess the general Democratic theory is that she should just go to court without a lawyer.

I'm surely not the best advocate for anyone and I'm surely a partisan democrat, and one more time before I go to bed I am going to say with full voice, I support Sarah Palin on this issue. Good night.

Posted by: douglaslbarber | July 21, 2009 9:07 PM | Report abuse

P.S. I care about her.

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You fantasize about her

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 21, 2009 9:07 PM | Report abuse

Come on, Jake, you tried it, you got caught, get over it. You GOP trolls always post under dual identities, it's part of being a GOP troll, just like getting all your facts wrong, just like lying, just like the thick-witted bitterness. No surprise.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 21, 2009 9:05 PM | Report abuse

P.S. I care about her.

Posted by: JakeD | July 21, 2009 9:04 PM | Report abuse

This is not rocket science. Republicans are dogging Palin with spurious ethics complains, and now they've gotten a state official to cite Palin for an ethics violation for privately raising funds to defend herself against ethics complaints.

If you are a Democrat and think this is how you should argue against Sarah Palin, please raise your right hand.

Posted by: douglaslbarber | July 21, 2009 9:03 PM | Report abuse

You mean, other than Chris Cillizza? Is he "JakeD" now too?

"Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin ..."

Posted by: JakeD | July 21, 2009 9:03 PM | Report abuse

Aside from wishing she would go the hell away, does anyone care about her?

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 21, 2009 9:02 PM | Report abuse

jrm1 wrote, "ok, a show of hands... who has actually read the complaint?"

I have. Any questions?

Posted by: douglaslbarber | July 21, 2009 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Statement from Gov. Palin's attorney:

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Hi Jake!

Nobody else calls her "Gov. Palin"

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 21, 2009 8:59 PM | Report abuse

"I agree with Douglas Barber. I began reading CC thinking it would be a report of misspent state funds. That would have been an ethics violation. I think this is a malicious rumor, unless there is something else, completely different, to be revealed.
It is remotely possible that AK has a thoughtless ethics code for public employees that would effectively deny the right to counsel in a quasi-criminal proceeding. Remotely..Posted by: mark_in_austin "

We will really see if there is any substance to these charges when she isn't governor and isn't anything else that State of Alaska employees have to fear. Right now she still can make things tough for overly inquisitive inquisitors, but come onday someone else is the arbiter of what he is willing to let State investigators dig into.

Should all this blow up into a full bore scandal in a month or so, Sarah will have real reason to rue forgoing lame duck (with maghine gun for protection) status.

At least a lame duck in office has friends and protectors. a lone lame duck up their on the tundra is lunch for the next hungry predator who comes along.

And the Magpies and Ravens circle.

Posted by: ceflynline | July 21, 2009 8:56 PM | Report abuse

Well that explains why she resigned!

Posted by: mattadamsdietmanager1014 | July 21, 2009 8:52 PM | Report abuse

Statement from Gov. Palin's attorney:

"The resolution of the Trust Fund is not final. I have been working with the investigator regarding supplemental information. The matter is still pending. Whatever you have seen was released in violation of law. There has been no Board finding of an ethics violation and there is a detailed legal process to follow before there is a final resolution."

"All options are open in terms of legal remedies. It is a clear violation of Alaska law that Mr. Daniel explicitly reviewed with Ms. Chatman prior to her illegal actions. We will be contacting the appropriate authorities for review and action." Thomas Van Flein

Posted by: Lisa421 | July 21, 2009 8:51 PM | Report abuse

ok, a show of hands ... who has actually read the complaint? (thx CC for the pdf link)

it is not clear to me whether there is really a case here.

Posted by: jrm1 | July 21, 2009 8:50 PM | Report abuse

I begin to wonder if the bulk of Sarah's problems arise right out of her Not a Politician status. Every dumb thing she does seems to be a mistake a pretender to real politics might make, where someone with some background in Politics and the real mechanics of the Art and Science of serving the people would simply not have made such a rookie mistake.

I really can't see that she knows the difference between rock star and popular politician. And, not seeing the difference sees no problem in demanding rock star perks because she is a popular politician, or non politician, as the case may be.

Posted by: ceflynline | July 21, 2009 8:48 PM | Report abuse

@doug my original comment was a response to a post that blamed the coverage on the "left-leaning media"; this comment was expressed as a conditional and was not intended to affirm the hypothesis. to respond a little to your question, i consider the washington post and the new york times to be centrist, not leftist. one characteristic of modern america is that people on the vocal right tend to be so far right that the center looks left to them. the far left is not so vocal, because the largely corporate media does not resonate with their ideas. i would not care to assign ownership of any media outlet to any particular entity; what i do want is choice, so that i can look who owns, say, the wall street journal or fox news (or slate for that matter) and draw my own conclusions about what bias colors their coverage. my fear is that the average media consumer does not discriminate among media sources in this way.

Posted by: jrm1 | July 21, 2009 8:43 PM | Report abuse

I agree with Douglas Barber. I began reading CC thinking it would be a report of misspent state funds. That would have been an ethics violation. I think this is a malicious rumor, unless there is something else, completely different, to be revealed.

It is remotely possible that AK has a thoughtless ethics code for public employees that would effectively deny the right to counsel in a quasi-criminal proceeding. Remotely.

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Posted by: mark_in_austin | July 21, 2009 8:38 PM | Report abuse

@jrm1, if the link between media ownership and the slant of media coverage were as direct as you suggest, I'd bet that 3/4 of the staff of the Washington Post, including Chris Cillizza, would quit and seek work elsewhere.

By the way, who would you suggest ought to own the great papers, the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Wall Street Journal? A consortium of people who have gone bankrupt? The AFL-CIO (I like that idea)?

Posted by: douglaslbarber | July 21, 2009 8:18 PM | Report abuse

@douglasbarber: not a coffee drinker, eh? look into who owns media with real market penetration, and tell us what you find out.

Posted by: jrm1 | July 21, 2009 8:10 PM | Report abuse

If it is unethical for Sarah Palin to use her fame to raise funds to defend herself against ethics charges,

and if Governors shouldn't be paid millions per year (and they're typically not),

then if an opposition party targeted a governor of limited means with a million bogus but "must be defended" ethics charges, they could be assured of bankrupting that person and driving them out of public life.

I don't think that's a desireable outcome.

Posted by: douglaslbarber | July 21, 2009 8:09 PM | Report abuse

this is all the gun toting grandmother's fault. when the dirty old coot came to her and said "run with me, you're cute" she should have used common sense and maturity, and told him no, I'm not ready.so now the world knows. if she and steele are the best you repugs can dig up. I'm happy and confident for 2012.

Posted by: ninnafaye | July 21, 2009 8:06 PM | Report abuse

jrm1 wrote, "it is charming to learn that there are still some people who believe in the existence of "left-leaning media". "

But in this case the offending party is not your imaginary left leaning media, it's "an independent investigator affiliated with the state's Personnel Board", which as best I can tell is purt near on to a prosecutor funded by taxpayers.

Salon is left leaning. Slate, less so, but somewhat. Washington Post is as best I can tell an honorable representative of the best traditions of journalistic objectivity in the USA. Washington Times is right leaning and National Review will defend a right wing point of view come Hell or high water. Your point, basically, sucks.

Posted by: douglaslbarber | July 21, 2009 8:04 PM | Report abuse

The gravest threat likely to hit a law-abiding citizen of the USA out of the clear blue sky is prosecutorial misconduct.

Memorize that, kids.

Posted by: douglaslbarber | July 21, 2009 7:58 PM | Report abuse

HaHaHa is anyone really surprised? She is the JOKE of the year period.Way to go republicons the gift that keeps on giving!!!!

Posted by: lildg54 | July 21, 2009 7:49 PM | Report abuse

it is charming to learn that there are still some people who believe in the existence of "left-leaning media". in case you haven't noticed, the media are owned by powerful corporations which have their own interests first and foremost. if the media are indeed the agents of ms. palin's downfall, it is not an ideological attack from the left - it is a business decision from the corporate right. how does that coffee smell?

Posted by: jrm1 | July 21, 2009 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Ms_Morgan, I beg to differ. It appears to me that the instant charge against Palin is that she was able to raise money for her legal defense fund and did in fact raise such money because of her fame. She's accused of no other ethics violation than raising money to defend herself against ethics charges which would never have come her way had she not become famous.

I can't believe I'm defending Sarah Palin, but I'll tell you what, right now, I'm defending her wholeheartedly.

Posted by: douglaslbarber | July 21, 2009 7:45 PM | Report abuse

I suspect these ethics probes are like State Bar investigations.

The Bar can only disbar, it has no other options for penalites. So a resignation from the Bar by an attorney under fire normally stops investigation.

But if the Bar investigates and finds wrong doing, and then disbars the attorney, the DA usually takes over and uses the evidence gathered by the Bar to conduct a criminal investigation.

So most attorneys under fire resign. This limits the damage to a loss of license.

Seems something similar is happening with Palin. It seems to be a ploy to limit the damage to a loss of the governorship.

Posted by: Ms_Morgan | July 21, 2009 7:36 PM | Report abuse

The will of a higher authority has spoken.

Posted by: whocares666 | July 21, 2009 7:36 PM | Report abuse

The so-called "independent investigator" is hoist by his own petard. He criticizes Palin's ethics thus:

"An ordinary citizen facing legal charges is not likely to be able to generate donations to a legal defense fund. In contrast, Governor Palin is able to generate donations because of the fact
that she is a public official and a public figure. Were it not for the fact that she is governor and a national political figure, it is unlikely that many citizens would donate money to her legal defense fund."

If there is a voter in the USA more opposed to Sarah Palin than I am, I would like to meet him or her and buy 'em a drink. I detest the woman.

But this ethics finding is absurd. How hard is it to answer this guy by saying, "Were Sarah Palin not governor, she wouldn't have these legal bills?" Krimeny.

In this case it is perfectly clear to me that criticism of Palin is over the top.

Posted by: douglaslbarber | July 21, 2009 7:33 PM | Report abuse

Or a rabid, left-leaning media who have gone after her from day one and will continue to do so as long as many Americans still admire her?

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"Many Americans admire her?"

(shades eyes, rotates head)

Where are they? Outside the rural south, I mean? I know one (1) person who likes her.

GOP identification is down to 20%, and only 39% of them "admire" her (though 71% would vote for her, go figure).

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 21, 2009 7:29 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if any of you Palin haters who call her a loser (and worse) read this sentence, or maybe you just read the headline and then went back to your bong:

"To date, all of the complaints have been dismissed."

Wouldn't that really point to frivolous complaints and not any wrongdoing on her part? Or is it just guys like Bill Clinton (he who made legal defense funds commonplace) who are innocent until proven guilty? Or a rabid, left-leaning media who have gone after her from day one and will continue to do so as long as many Americans still admire her?

Posted by: johnwp | July 21, 2009 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Whatever happens...please no more opinion pieces from Sara(the quitter)Palin. If I want to read children's books I'll read George Bush's favorite, "My Pet Goat."

Posted by: kubrickstan | July 21, 2009 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Aparently the demorats are still so afraid of Sarah Palin that they continue to attack and trump up false charges. She must really scare the hell out of them and thier attack dogs.

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yeah that's it, we're terrified of the competence and clarity she might bring to the PRESIDENCY.

You clutch that straw like grim death, y'hear?

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 21, 2009 7:22 PM | Report abuse

At least it's not another Palin Puff Piece.

Posted by: chrisfox8
___________
Yeah, but it's STILL about Phalin. :)

Coming soon:
GOP comeback, part deux
Pat Buchanan's good points
Matt Drudge, savior or saint?
Bobby Jindal, not the fool he plays on TV
The return of Chip Salsman
Hall of Fame for Jeff Sessions, yes or no?
Phalin's recommended reading
A weekend with Audra Shay

Posted by: broadwayjoe | July 21, 2009 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Aparently the demorats are still so afraid of Sarah Palin that they continue to attack and trump up false charges. She must really scare the hell out of them and thier attack dogs. Sort or reminds me of James (mad dog) Carvil and his screaching voice from the swamp creatur. Get a life folks and follow your own advice, Move On.

Posted by: jmsmaxwell | July 21, 2009 7:18 PM | Report abuse

We all knew that she was just a corrupt, incompetent, trailer trash dimwit- how much more proof do the wingnuts need? This little phony actually had some people fooled- how sad for America that we allow such gullible morons to vote!

Posted by: losthorizon10 | July 21, 2009 7:11 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin demonstrates, yet again, that she is a total loser.

Posted by: euroguy | July 21, 2009 7:09 PM | Report abuse

At least it's not another Palin Puff Piece.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 21, 2009 7:07 PM | Report abuse

I am most assuredly NOT a fan of Governor Palin and/or her policies. Just the same this is getting a bit ridicules. The poor woman can't go to the bathroom without someone accusing her of something. God only knows how many legal defense funds have been set up over the years by politicians in and out of office. I can't blame her for wanting to get out of that two bit state that is making Arkansas look respectable.

Posted by: Opa2 | July 21, 2009 6:44 PM | Report abuse

Let her spend all her time trying to stay out of jail. That's the best thing that could ever happen to the GOP

Posted by: chrisfox8 | July 21, 2009 6:24 PM | Report abuse

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