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Republicans Revolt on RNC's Obama-Blago Strategy


Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich is not happy with Republican tactics toward President-elect Barack Obama. Photo by Dayna Smith for The Washington Post

As the Republican National Committee continues its attempt to tie disgraced Gov. Rod Blagojevich to President-elect Barack Obama, more high-profile GOPers are rebelling against the strategy.

Newt Gingrich (Ga.), the former Speaker of the House and a potential candidate for president in 2012, wrote a letter to RNC Chair Mike Duncan on Tuesday condemning the Web video circulated by national Republicans over the weekend that sought to link Obama to Blagojevich.

Calling the video a "destructive distraction," Gingrich added: "This ad is a terrible signal to be sending about both the goals of the Republican Party in the midst of the nation's troubled economic times and about whether we have actually learned anything from the defeats of 2006 and 2008."

His chorus of dissent was joined later in the day by Patrick Ruffini, a prominent online voice for Republicans. (Ruffini was the e-campaign director for the RNC during the 2006 election cycle and did the same for former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani's presidential campaign.)

In a post on post on The Next Right (a new-ish online gathering place for conservatives), Ruffini wrote:

"It's fair to say that any residual connections Obama may have with Gov. Blagojevich as a result of being an Illinois Senator are not the strongest part of our argument. I can understand the desire to go at Obama. But with Obama at 76% approval for the transition, our hits against him have to be clean hits, or they will blow up in our face."

The sentiments expressed publicly by Gingrich and Ruffini are echoed privately by a number of Republican strategists who view the attempts to link Blagojevich and Obama as nothing more than a fool's errand given the lack of evidence that the public sees any real connection between the two men.

As we wrote earlier this week, the strategy adopted by the RNC poses a real risk to the party because of Obama's strength and Republicans' weakness in the eyes of voters.

A new Washington Post/ABC News poll more than three in four voters approve of the way Obama has handled the transition and a majority (51 percent) of of independents said he had done enough to explain any conversations his aides had with Blagojevich.

Compare those solid numbers to a new national poll from Gallup that shows just one in four adults approving of the way Republicans in Congress are doing their job while 69 percent disapprove. (In fairness, congressional Democrats' numbers weren't much better: 37 approve/55 disapprove.)

So, what should Republicans do -- given that they are out of power at the executive and legislative level?

Gingrich boils it down to a single sentence: "Republicans should be eager to work with [Obama] when he is right, and, when he is wrong, offer a better solution, instead of just opposing him."

Ruffini is more expansive -- offering three solutions, the savviest of which is to push the idea that Democrats are seeking to rob voters of a say in Illinois by refusing to pass legislation that would create a special election to fill Obama's Senate seat.

The RNC may be listening. Duncan released a statement Tuesday evening on the need for a special election. "We agree with President-elect Barack Obama that his Senate seat belongs to the people of Illinois," said Duncan. "The only way the people's voice will be heard and Illinois can end the taint of the Blagojevich scandal is to have a special election."

That Republicans are in the political wilderness is without dispute. As the past week illustrates, how they get out of it remains an issue of significant disagreement.

By Chris Cillizza  |  December 17, 2008; 6:45 AM ET
Categories:  Republican Party  
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Posted by: nodebris | December 18, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: AJAX2 | December 17, 2008 10:52 PM | Report abuse

Interesting to note that the republican halfwits are still harping on the Clinton BJs in the Oval Office. They should keep their noses out of people's personal lives anyway. Cannot legislate morality, and Clinton was just being a normal human being. His mistake was in saying he did not have 'sex with that woman.' Should have simply said, "So what ? I will do as I please in my personal life. I don't need your permission. I do my job as President."
He did his job, and did not lie about all he did in that respect as Scumbag Bush, Scumbag Cheney, and Scumbag Newt Gingrich have always done !

Posted by: donald_mcmunn | December 17, 2008 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Gingrich boils it down to a single sentence: "Republicans should be eager to work with [Obama] when he is right, and, when he is wrong, offer a better solution, instead of just opposing him."

Wow ! That would be a real switch ! A republican actually offering a solution to a problem ? Is that really possible coming from a party that has consistently planned the destruction of the U.S. government and the U.S. Constitution for Greed and profit using the Military Industrial Complex perpared plans made by Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Gingrich, and a whole slew of others with their fingers in for a 'trickle down' payoff for supporting the MIC ? Sorry, folks, but miracles do not happen in real life. As we see now, the Bush solution for the economic disaster is to reward Wall Street and the banks with the biggest taxpayer ripoff ever !!

Posted by: donald_mcmunn | December 17, 2008 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Good for Mr. Gingrich. The nation can use all the principled stands it can get from members of either party.

Posted by: officermancuso | December 17, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

So why isn't the majority of the American people reflecting this popularity with their votes????

Because the Lib education system has taught them to be stupid willing plebes that look for the messiah to handle all their problems for them.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | December 17, 2008 6:00 PM | Report abuse

Here come the solutions you Libs were clamoring for:

Can anyone guess>

It involves spending a trillion bucks of your money. that's it, just spend the money. simple huh?

Posted by: king_of_zouk | December 17, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

armpeg,
you & the neo-cons keep blaming MSM for the GOP's woes. How many times do suppose reasonable minded Americans have heard this lame lament. You neo-cons keep whining about the Liberal MSM bias but the republicans keep getting voted out. Why is that ??? If your team is doing such a good job why is the neo-con MSM having such a hard time communicating that? It can't be that Liberal MSM is more popular than neo-con MSM because you guys have debunked that notion with some pretty sound evidence. Fox News is far more popular than NBC, CBS and NBC. Rush Limbaugh is the most popular radio host in the history of radio broadcasting. And Joe Scarborough crows incessantly about how popular he is in the heart land. So why isn't the majority of the American people reflecting this popularity with their votes????

You probably won't answer my post and if you do you probably will avoid answering my question all the while heaping insults onto me. And that is cool. The problem for you though is that the majority of the voters are asking the same questions as I am and Newt Gingrich. Just in case you have forgotten, Newt is the architect of the last republican renascence and i suppose he knows a think or two more than you about what the GOP should be doing to earn some political capital but then again you might not know what political capital look like.

Posted by: SteelWheel1 | December 17, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Broadwayjoe


Would you please limit your remarks to the issues and stop attacking other posters.


It is soooo unAmerican.

How many times do we have to tell you - are you stupid?


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Posted by: 37thandORulesForever | December 17, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

power makes them responsible for everything that has happened

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Yes, it was PeLousy and Reid running congress during the downturn. It was Dodd and Frank who ignored reality.

not that any Libs understand how government works, as we all know. under them, it doesn't.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | December 17, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

anyone notice that it was all Libs who got ripped off by Madoff? the same Libs who are perfectly happy with the current structure of Social Security. and why not, the situation is exactly the same. a bunch of dumb libs will hold your money for you until it runs out. then you can go screw yourself.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | December 17, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Time out from Blags for this: Madoff the Great ($50B Ponzi schemer) is out on "house arrest" in Central Park.

In a city where street thugs do hard time in the Tombs for stealing a Twinkie, squeeging car windows, or possession of a nail clipper, Bernie just walks out and goes home with an ear-to-ear grin. After his court appearance today, he strutted down the middle of New York City wearing a baseball cap, w/out bodyguards. This guy is incredible.

I have a feeling in the end Madoff the Great will get off with a fine, "have a nice day," and a charter plane to the Bahamas -- and will keep the whole $50B. BHO may be man of the year but Madoff the Great is clearly winner of the week.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | December 17, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

"you and your ilk are out of power and you'll get what crumbs are left.

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so you admit that Libs are the cause of this mess and that the people can expect only crumbs as a result of their leadership."

Another dumb comment (surprise, surprise). The original author was talking about the incoming administration, and Zouk says that their future power makes them responsible for everything that has happened under Dubya. BRILLIANT!!

Posted by: kreuz_missile | December 17, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

"Actually Osama won this last election with one more percentage point than bush. you must be a product of a Liberal education with your math skills."

Stop lying, I've corrected you several times on this already. A 2.2% increase in the total percentage of the electorate, and almost triple the margin of victory in percent. So how do conservatives do math? Wrong, apparently.

Posted by: kreuz_missile | December 17, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Terrific insight into Republican morals. They don't care whether the charge is true or false. The only thing that matters is whether or not the Republican party can benefit.

Typical neocon GOP conservative. Ignore truth and honesty. Pure politics yesterday. Pure politics today. Pure politics tomorrow. Pure politics always.

The shame and hypocrisy of the GOP appear to be boundless.

Posted by: Continuum | December 17, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

"Factless Lib - who has won 3 out of 3 of the last elections?"

Wow, Republicans won a senate seat in Gerogia, a strongly Republican congressional district in Louisiana, and LA voters kicked William Jefferson out at last (largely on the backs of Dems) becasue they wanted him gone and knew they'd get the seat back in 2 years with minimal effort. Some accomplishments there, Zouk. Clearly these are the glory days for the Republican Party.

"Let's take today to ponder that TIME's Man of the Year also included Hitler and Stalin - and some of the worst bigots out there. I guess Obama is in with the right crowd now."

And Ronald Reagan (twice), Margaret Thatcher, Henry Kissenger, Newt Gingrich, Rudy Guiliani, Dubya (twice), Ken Starr. So, more great logic from Zouk to clearly make a compelling, rational case....

Posted by: kreuz_missile | December 17, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

further back into the 25% corner you crawl

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Actually Osama won this last election with one more percentage point than bush. you must be a product of a Liberal education with your math skills.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | December 17, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Boy, I never thought I'd find myself agreeing with Newty Gingrich, though even if he's making sense for a change, he doesn't have a prayer getting elected to anything. Gingrich is smart enough to see that only Rush Limbaugh & Sean Hannity can try to twist something into something that simply isn't there.
Obama can't stand Blagojevich- been that way for years. He knew he was dirty. That's also why he doesn't get along so good with Candidate #5, Jesse "the million dollar man" Jackson Jr. & Mayor Richard "King of the Midwest" Daley Jr. All three of those guys are history. Blag. just hurts himself prolonging the agony- step down, you schmuck!

Posted by: rsampson02 | December 17, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Hey Zouk...

Obama and Hitler both had Caucasian mothers.

Posted by: willandjansdad1 | December 17, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Zouk...
If you only realize how much I appreciate you and what you do. I am totally sincere in this. Keep preachin' brother. The louder you spew your rant the further back into the 25% corner you crawl. Take all your buddies with you. Sarah, Sarah! You go boy! Obama's a thug and an empty suit! Hitler, Obama, Hitler, Obama!...Just a few suggestions. Oh...I actually like the nickname "Lib" because that's what I am.

Bravo Zulu! In the Marines that means "Job well done".

Posted by: willandjansdad1 | December 17, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Anybody with an open mind, a reasonable amount of intelligence, and one who has followed American politics for many years knows that todays Democratic Party is the most corrupt, dishonest, and most vile political party in the history of our country. The Chicago pay-to-play scandal that implicates Blagojevich, Obama, Emanuel, Rezko, Ayers, and the rest are just the tip of the corruption iceberg that's going on everywhere were the Democrats are in control. While there's a few Republicans nationwide that have taken lessons from the Democrats around, for every one of them, there's a thousand Democrats. The only reason the Democrats have been getting away with a lot of this organized crime-like corruption, is because the MSM is in their hip-pocket, so a lot of it is suppressed and censored. This is the reason the Democrats want to hush-Rush et al with laws to shut him up, and why they hate Fox News. These non-liberal, non-Democrat partisan news/opinion services tell the public both sides of every issue, rather than just the censored version, and that's why they hate them. They let the cat out of the bag on some things that liberals and Democrats want suppressed and censored. Barack Obama and Rahm Emanuel are in this up to their eyeballs, but you'll never hear or read about it from the MSM. Nobody goes anywhere in Chicago polics without being a pay-to-play player, and Obama made it right to the top. Enough said!

Posted by: armpeg | December 17, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

"bound and determined to continue to marginalize their party "

Factless Lib - who has won 3 out of 3 of the last elections?

Hint - the idiots lost.

Looks like if the people get to choose in IL, the idiots may lose a dark blue senate seat. all because they can't help themselves when there is money lying around.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | December 17, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

37 and 0 said...
"Let's take today to ponder that TIME's Man of the Year also included Hitler and Stalin - and some of the worst bigots out there. I guess Obama is in with the right crowd now."

Which proved this prediction accurate...

"Well, Obama won Time's Person of the Year.
I guess now the Republicans can start linking him with Hitler."

And my respons to that was...
"They already have, conveniently forgetting that other honorees include Nixon, George W. Bush and lest we forget Saint Ronnie Reagan.

The Republican ranters are bound and determined to continue to marginalize their party with smear politics. They are like junkies for low-brow attacks. It's so clumsy that anybody with an ounce of discernment sees right through it."

"A dog will return to it's vomit".
The new motto for the GOP.

Posted by: willandjansdad1 | December 17, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

37andOdrools


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Posted by: broadwayjoe | December 17, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Boo hoo, you libs are such powerless victims. Maybe the messiah will create a big government program to bail you out. It is your only hope.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | December 17, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

oh i know who has run congress for the last two years, just biding my time until the rest of the RNC lyers, and Flyers get outttttttt
cause for the last 12 they been mucking up the works and for the last two they have been blocking legislation
how do u think we have no progress in this country, only a return to troubles of the past, because the rNC believes, the laws for social change are wrong, and all they do is fight those laws, instead of coming up with new and innovative ideas to progress the nation, they meerly seek to press their agenda.

Posted by: mjtaylor22 | December 17, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

37th, didn't you know the blue dress was planted?

Posted by: king_of_zouk | December 17, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

... that awful sound!

Oh. My. God.

It's Tom DeLay, rising from the crypt....

Posted by: i_go_pogo | December 17, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

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Let's take today to ponder that TIME's Man of the Year also included Hitler and Stalin - and some of the worst bigots out there. I guess Obama is in with the right crowd now.


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Posted by: 37thandORulesForever | December 17, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

A DEMOCRATIC SCANDAL is not an occassion to start attacking the Republicans - only the sickest minds could arrive at that conclusion.


I guess several are present on this forum.


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Posted by: 37thandORulesForever | December 17, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

a wonder a Republican has EVER won an election in this country

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Quite true, it is a testament to the paucity of Lib ideas that the propoganda is overcome.

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you and your ilk are out of power and you'll get what crumbs are left.

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so you admit that Libs are the cause of this mess and that the people can expect only crumbs as a result of their leadership.

See, there is one honest Lib in the world. I expect a retraction saying that his words were taken out of context.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | December 17, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

"Well, Obama won Time's Person of the Year.
I guess now the Republicans can start linking him with Hitler."

They already have, conveniently forgetting that other honorees include Nixon, George W. Bush and lest we forget Saint Ronnie Reagan.

The Republican ranters are bound and determined to continue to marginalize their party with smear politics. They are like junkies for low-brow attacks. It's so clumsy that anybody with an ounce of discernment sees right through it.

Posted by: willandjansdad1 | December 17, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

1.722 Billion in tax incentives and services to foriegn automotive companies transplanted in the south, but big 3, no way that's unthinkable, give me a break, if these senators don't pay for this deception with flesh from the backs of their political futures, America has truely lost all its marbles, where do they get the audacity to attack American workers in the name of free market ecomonics, after giving 1.7 Billion to foriegn companies to push industry wages down, like they wouldn't have come here to bleed our consumer dollars anyway, WAKE UP AMERICA.

How convenient that the GOP fails to mention the role their states have played in destroying unionized American manufacturing with tax payer dollars.

Corker’s Tennessee recently lured Volkswagen to build a manufacturing plant in Chattanooga, offering German automakers $577 million, In 2005, the state gave Nissan $197 million in incentives, including $20 million in utility savings.

In 1992, South Carolina snagged a BMW plant for $150 million in giveaways

In Mississippi in 2003, Nissan was lured with $363 million

In Georgia, a still-under-construction Kia plant received breaks estimated to be $415 million

Why isn't this being reported in the media, for all the talk about liberal media bias I have a hard time seeing it, with public enemy #1 Gov Blagojevich, and public enemy #2 Organized Labor plastered on every channel 24/7, the fourth estate has become distraction central for Republican rhetoric, and double speak.

Another point that wasn't mentioned in this article is that "the nonpartisan Tax Foundation have consistently shown that these Senators' states receive far more from the Federal government than they pay back in taxes."

"the Foundation's most recent study speak for themselves: Mitch McConnell's Kentucky took in $1.45 from the Feds for every dollar it paid in taxes. That's a 45 cent free ride. Bob Corker's Tennessee received at 30-cent Federal giveaway. And Richard Shelby's Alabama extracted a whopping 71-cent subsidy from Northern taxpayers.

What about Michigan? They lost 31 cents for every dollar they paid. In other words, McConnell, Shelby, and Corker have been skimming a percentage off these autoworkers' taxes for years on behalf of their constituents. Now, when the same Michigan taxpayers need help, these Senators are telling them to get lost.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rj-eskow/do-south...

Pass on the truth to those with an intelligence quotient larger than their hat size, from what I've read today, I can completely understand how these freshmen foriegn auto companies with no retirees and substantial state tax subsidies can appear to be better structured than the Big 3
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Posted by: ProudSouthernAmerican | December 17, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Well, Obama won Time's Person of the Year.

I guess now the Republicans can start linking him with Hitler.

Posted by: DDAWD | December 17, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

"Invocation [for the Inauguration]
Dr. Rick Warren, Saddleback Church, Lake Forest, CA"

What the ______??????

This is the same Rick Warren who set O up at the Saddleback "debate" with Mac. The one where Mac had the questions and answers and O was made to look foolish...allegedly. Where's Maya Angelou?
How good would her "Strong Men Keep A Comin'" have been at the inauguration?


Posted by: broadwayjoe | December 17, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

King of kook writes:

you Libs are delusional. Still don't even know who is running the congress for the last two years. Reid has shut down all debate and PeLousy hasn't let her iron grip slip in the least. Just how are Repubs supposed to participate under these circumstances.

(How ? When and where the Democrats say, that's how.)


when will you Libs ever cowboy up and own your failures? Just examine Dodd and Frank for the poster boys of finger pointing to avoid culpability. I suppose if the press were honest, you might get it, but Letterman is not a good source for your beliefs.

(Right. The press is lined up against the Cons and the Neocons and the rest of the political right. You folks on the right have been beating this liberal mainstream media dead horse for decades. It's a wonder a Republican has EVER won an election in this country to hear you tell it. And two years of Democratic control of Congress, didn't make the American voter forget about Bush-Cheney and six years of Congressional Republican rubber stamps)


Bottom like Kook, you and your ilk are out of power and you'll get what crumbs are left....when your pals in the Senate aren't cobbling together 41 votes of course.

Cry as you wish, but until your side comes up with a message other than fear, smear and queers, you'll be in the political minority and out of power in the WH for the foreseeable future.

Posted by: mathas | December 17, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

the transparency of Libs, ha ha;

Gov. Richardson Dodges Questions On Jury Probe Gov. Bill Richardson cut short a news conference Tuesday, abruptly leaving the room and ignoring reporters' questions about a federal grand jury investigation.

If you appoint clintonites, you are going to have crime in your midst.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | December 17, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Republicans know how to do 2 things: Get elected(at times) and smear people. Once they get elected, they usually screw-up things, but they maybe loosing their electability as a result of always being stuck in smear mode.

Posted by: shag11 | December 17, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Although I agree that the RNC's off base, how dare Newt Gingrich, the ultimate purveyor of attack politics, criticize anyone? For those you who forget, when Susan Smith killed two young sons in 1994, Newt was the one who blamed the Democratic Party. He said and I quote, “The mother killing her two children in South Carolina vividly reminds every American how sick the society is getting and how much we have to have change. I think people want to change and the only way you get change is to vote Republican. ”

This is a man who knows no bounds. Newt will say anything because he has no shame. My guess is that the RNC employees who are writing the organization’s current venom, learned from Gingrich's playbook.

The good news about Newt is that because he craves media attention he can't sneak up on us. If he thinks it, he says it. There are two truly ruthless actors on the American political scene, Newt and Karl Rove. Because Newt couldn't keep his mouth shut, the damage he’s caused has been relatively contained. Unfortunately, because Rove did his deeds under the radar the damage he's done is and will continue to be far reaching.

Posted by: gboesky | December 17, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

"a new drip....just revealed that RAHM made 21 phone calls to Blago. Silence from the Transition headquarters; Rahm is not at work; people want the truth and the content.

Posted by: poppadata | December 17, 2008 11:36 AM"
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Pop, news flash: I think the media has already reported Rahm is NOT a target of the Blags investigation; he's in the clear.

Rahm is silent b/c this is an ongoing investigation and he is not supposed to talk about it. BTW, it is perfectly okay for someone vacating a senate seat (or his chief of staff) to recommend people to replace him. That is standard operating procedure and is in no way illegal or inappropriate. No good faith Republican (e.g., Colin Luther Powell, John Sidney McCain, Olympia Snowe, Lincoln Chafee, etc.) is buying into the Blags smears against O. O should continue to "rope-a-dope" and let the extremists and their media enablers punch themselves out on this Blags junk that no one cares about.

Also great picture of the early BHO on Drudge and HuffPo (as of this morning), wearing a straw hat tipped to the side and puffing on a stub of a cigarette Frank/Sammy/Dean-style -- congrats on Time Man of the Year: President Cool...

Posted by: broadwayjoe | December 17, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Still, the only input we get from Republicans is smearing rather than solutions.

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you Libs are delusional. Still don't even know who is running the congress for the last two years. Reid has shut down all debate and PeLousy hasn't let her iron grip slip in the least. Just how are Repubs supposed to participate under these circumstances.

when will you Libs ever cowboy up and own your failures? Just examine Dodd and Frank for the poster boys of finger pointing to avoid culpability. I suppose if the press were honest, you might get it, but Letterman is not a good source for your beliefs.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | December 17, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Anyone who actually paid attention to evidence -- and based their political and social views on it -- wouldn't be a Republican in the first place.

For the record" the earth is only 6,000 years old, homosexuality can be cured, and tax cuts are the answer to everything fiscal.

Posted by: micron26 | December 17, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

If Republicans are not part of the solution, they are part of the problem. Indeed, as Newt says, they have learned nothing by the 2006 & 2008 votes!

We're in the greatest economic mess of our lifetime, the election is over! Still, the only input we get from Republicans is smearing rather than solutions. Where's all this "love of country", the slogan McCain tried to sell!

Even Ruffini's objection "I can understand the desire to go at Obama. But with Obama at 76% approval for the transition, our hits against him have to be clean hits, or they will blow up in our face." -- clearly shows the spitefulness and irrelevance of the Republican stance. Why should they want to "go at Obama" when he is already (although not yet in office) working hard to find solutions to our nations unprecidented problem? His only concern is that it might blow up in the Republican's face; i.e., self-interest. It has nothing to do with helping our country or its citizens. Shameful and disgusting!

Posted by: ingrid1 | December 17, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Let me see if ive got this right.Weve had an ex oil executive and an ex ceo of halliberton in the whitehouse.Who has profited most in the last eight years?What do you think was discussed at cheneys secret energy meeting?"so what"you say?You want to talk crime just look in the mirror!

Posted by: truthynesslover | December 17, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

targa47 writes:

"So, now Newt thinks if he kisses the backside of the Democrats and the liberal media that he can be President? Didn’t work for McCain and it won’t work for Gingrich. Either Obama or Axelrdo lied about discussions with the Governor. GOP should be all over this and needs to have some backbone."


If this is the case, then why isn't Fitzgerald going after anyone on the Obama team, to include the president elect ?

If Obama was paying for playing in regards to his Senate seat, then why did Blago call him an MFer and say all the incoming admin was willing to give him was appreciation ?

The RNC is "all over it", but there simply isn't any there, there. And the American people by and large DON'T CARE.

Backbone ? More like bone head.

Posted by: mathas | December 17, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Nobody ever said that this batch of highly-partisan Republicans (since 1996) had the brains of a toad. True, they have that appearance, and evidently enjoy it. Horns and all. I hear they've now bought a lipstick factory. But it wasn't smear proof lipstick. And it got all over their feces. Which they mistook for their own faces.

Posted by: infuse | December 17, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

It seems fairly clear that a Republican attempt to turn Baglojevich into an artificial issue against Obama is just a step to dig a deeper hole for themselves. If somehow it should turn out that Obama was more ready to trade favors over the Senate seat than people expect, the Republicans might be able to score a few points off the issue. But the American people are smart enough to know what the important issues are these days. If the Republicans can't figure that out, it is time for them to fade into history.

Posted by: dnjake | December 17, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

armpeg wrote:
So why am I not surprised that Democratic Party shill Cris Cillizza, like all Democrats and Barack Obama supporters, think that Gingrich and Ruffini are correct that Republicans shouldn't try to link Blago with Obama?
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Because you have a fight mentality is the reason why you are not surprise. I know how politically juicy this victory would be if somehow the republicans could successfully implicate President-elect Obama with Blagovich but it is painfully obvious to a lot of reasonable minded people that President-elect is clean.

What Newt is saying is the GOP do not have a lot of political capital to squander on wild goose chases like the one you want to do. Have you consider the toll on the GOP's creditability when it is revealed that despite all the vitriol of the republican echo chamber that there is no fire to speak of and no new ideas about governing and policy creation. How do you think this will play out with the voters?

Posted by: SteelWheel1 | December 17, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: vbhoomes

Looks like Newt is sucking up to the MSM on hopes they will shower this Narcisstic buthead with compliments on how he has grown since being out of office. We are the opposition party Newt, which means we should try to knock Obama down a peg. Of course you can go to far and have it backfire. But RNC has not done it so far. Its fairly vanilla.
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Dude! you are not getting it. Your post makes it clear yor would rather fight fellow Americans than the real problems we are all facing!

The voters don't care about your party if its policies and ideas don't benefit the American people. This is what Newt is saying. And this doesn't compromise Newts conservative principles at all. He is simply being smart about the situation the republicans are currently in.


You are offering the American people more fighting amongst ourselves when what we really need is to be pulling together. If America sinks into a economic depression we all suffer. If we lose the two wars we are currently fighting we all suffer. A house divided against itself can not stand!


Posted by: SteelWheel1 | December 17, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

king_of_zouk Posted:

It seems from this reporting that Republicans are capable of independent thought and don't always agree.

The assumption is that Dems are not able to think things up on their own. they are required to follow along and keep any intelligent thought to themselves. as if they had any.
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king_of_zouk,
I think you are the type of republican Newt Gingrich is speaking of. What are your conservative ideas that could turn this country around??? We already know how nasty and destructive you guys are when it comes to character assassination and guilt by association but the people want ideas and action that benefit them on a day-to-day basis.

Posted by: SteelWheel1 | December 17, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

So why am I not surprised that Democratic Party shill Cris Cillizza, like all Democrats and Barack Obama supporters, think that Gingrich and Ruffini are correct that Republicans shouldn't try to link Blago with Obama? If President Bush had had the exact same ties to a Chicago-style political machine for 20 years, with the exact same allegations of political corruption and ties to a corrupt governor, you could bet everything you got these same shysters wouldn't be trying to sweep this all under the rug. They'd be out there screaming like banchees, crying their crocodile tears of phony outrage, and writing thousands of above-the-fold columns for the next 4 years, trying to link George W. Bush to the corrupt Republican governor. The fact is that nobody, nobody, nobody works himself up the Chicago political ladder unless he's a player and a pay-to-play insider. Barack Obama's ties to Tony Rezko--who was Blago's bagman--and his shady dealings with him in his sweetheart mortgage deal for Obama's house and property, and then State Senator Obama's subsequent steering state contracts to Rezko worth millions to him, is proof positive that Barack Obama was a "player". Now though, we're all supposed to forget about it and never mention it again, according to these Obama and Democrat shills. What a bunch of phony hypocrites!!!

Posted by: armpeg | December 17, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

37th&O is tired of hearing people say that Bush lied.

Very sorry that reality is so difficult for some folks, but Bush DID lie. Again and again and again. The lies were serious. In fact, they were as serious as life and death, and the deaths of THOUSANDS of Americans, and perhaps HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of other people, resulted from Bush's deceptions.

We, as Americans, are responsible for what our government does in our name, so in a greater sense, the blood of all these people is on ALL our hands, for accepting Bush's lies, and acting on them. As for those American who are NOT outraged by Bush's lies, I can only conclude that they just don't get it.

Posted by: Iconoblaster | December 17, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Gingrich recognises a "rope a dope" strategy when he sees one.

Posted by: markswisshelm | December 17, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

If republican's want a chance to get back from the wilderness, it's REALLY easy.

Debate ISSUES, not guilt-by-association tactics (ayers/blagojevich), conspiracy theories (birth certificates, manchurian candidate), or any of the other nonsense the wingnuts have been peddling.

There's plenty to debate, but the republican's have been doing character assassination politics for so long they've forgotten how to do anything else.

Posted by: mikem1 | December 17, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

"The middle of the electorate is disgusted with corrupt political party insiders; and partially voted for Obama based on their view he was 'clean'....a view largely promoted by a media that ignored or glossed over a lot of evidence to the contrary."poppadata

Okay, cogent well written post. Then I got to this section and said, what is he talking about? I paid a lot of attention to this election cycle. I would appreciate it if you would expand on what evidence and how it was glossed over?
Seems very vague and ambiguous.

Posted by: Thatsnuts | December 17, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

When has the truth or reality ever stood in the way of conservative republicans trying to slime a Democrat? Their evil genius was always their ability to connect the unconnected and to have such phony baloney charges mindlessly repeated by the likes of you Chris Cillizza, ABC, NBC,CBS, CNN The Cra%@#$%! Name in News, the WaPo, NYT's, Faux Noise, Rush, Hannitard, Beck, O'Reilly, WSJ, Wash Times, NY Post etc, ect.......... All conservative news outlets no matter what the Right screams at the top of their lungs.

People have just caught on that it's just one big diversion from what's really going on in the world and they've just stopped believing you and paying attention.

It just doesn't work anymore. There is to much economic pain and uncertainty in this land for trivial stories. Do you remember the BIG STORY on Sept. 10, 2001? The Big Media Obsession? Gary Condit and The Missing White Girl. It would be a relief if that were the only thing we had to worry about today.

Posted by: cfeher | December 17, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

"You are a complete hypocrite - all the democrats have done for years is tear down the Bush administration and say Bush lied, Bush lied.37thandO"

But it was true, Bush lied. I wish it was only once, which would be bad enough.

The difference with Clinton is his lie didn't get Americans killed in Iraq.

Posted by: Thatsnuts | December 17, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

It's pretty obvious that the RNC cares far more about itself and Republicans than they do about the majority of Americans. As long as that's their position, I think the GOP will be a minor character on the national political stage.

Even after the elections of 2006 and 2008, they just don't get it, do they?

Posted by: MT_Guy | December 17, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

The only thing the GOP is good at is blackening their opponent's names, but it keeps blowing up in their faces.

You're doing a great hatchet job on yourselves, please keep it up.

Posted by: brucet | December 17, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

What a difference an administration makes. During the Bush years, if a spokesman or the president himself attempted to dodge a tough question, the media would go into their Sam Donaldson impressions and pundits would see a conspiracy of silence.But now that it's Obama, the dodging that was once denounced is suddenly celebrated.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | December 17, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

It seems from this reporting that Republicans are capable of independent thought and don't always agree.

The assumption is that Dems are not able to think things up on their own. they are required to follow along and keep any intelligent thought to themselves. as if they had any.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | December 17, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Paging Ken Starr...
Paging Ken Starr...
... Can we start the investigation now? Or do we need to wait around until the guy is sworn in?

The Republicans are out of power, and Special Prosecution seems to be the only trick they know. Bipartisanship and actual ideas are completely beyond them.

Posted by: i_go_pogo | December 17, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

More of the usual Republican lies. If the Republican party spent more time improving itself, they wouldn't need to waste some much time on writing fiction about all the popular Democrats.
I am not a fan of Gingrich's but he is right that this is all a waste of time. Reminds me of the Republicans spreading the rumor that Clinton had a black love child or their campaign to humiliate McCain about his adopted daughter from Bangladesh. The sooner the party can convince its members not to spread such obvious foolishness, the sooner they will heal their wounds and start getting elected again.

Posted by: bghgh | December 17, 2008 12:06 PM | Report abuse

The Republican party is in a major hole and they keep digging. Obama never attacked the people that vote republican, never called them un-American or called them stupid for what they support.

Teh republican need to stop trying to divide Americans and come up with ideas without degrading fellow Americans.

What you are doing now is not working!!!!!!

Posted by: kckc317 | December 17, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

More of the usual Republican lies. If the Republican party spent more time improving itself, they wouldn't need to waste some much time on writing fiction about all the popular Democrats.
I am not a fan of Gingrich's but he is right that this is all a waste of time. Reminds me of the Republicans spreading the rumor that Clinton had a black love child or their campaign to humiliate McCain about his adopted daughter from Bangladesh. The sooner the party can convince its members not to spread such obvious foolishness, the sooner they will heal their wounds and start getting elected again.

Posted by: bghgh | December 17, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

More of the usual Republican lies. If the Republican party spent more time improving itself, they wouldn't need to waste some much time on writing fiction about all the popular Democrats.
I am not a fan of Gingrich's but he is right that this is all a waste of time. Reminds me of the Republicans Clinton had a black love child or their campaign to humiliate McCain about his adopted daughter from Bangladesh. The sooner the party can convince its members not to spread such obvious foolishness, the sooner they will heal their wounds and start getting elected again.

Posted by: bghgh | December 17, 2008 12:04 PM | Report abuse

...Don't worry about whether something is actually TRUE if you can coat it with enough innuendo and pretend out-rage. As a whole, the GOP is more interested in tearing down than building up. With preserving "how things are done" instead of fixing what's broken. With discrediting their "enemy" than honest disagreement. With "winning" instead of governing. And THAT'S why they will continue to lose for the foreseeable future. ...

The GOP will contiue to harp on this non-story until everybody tires of it, at that point they'll hunker down in their rhetorical corner to nurse their sense of grievance about nobody taking their whines seriously.

It's what they do.

Posted by: WilyArmadilla | December 17, 2008 8:44 AM
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This passage sums up Hillary Clinton, and Clinton politics generally, to a T.

As for the post, Newt gets it. However little you may think of him, he's an accomplished political tactician (the GOP assumed Congressional leadership for the first time in decades on his watch). He undestands that the GOP brand has been ruined (not coincidentally, after he left leadership) and thatthe first step to regaining power is to recapture credibility with the run of the voting public.

Although opposing the auto bailout should kill the GOP brand for decades with midwestern voters. I can see the ads now: [GOP candidate] worked with Republican leaders to see that this plant in our state was closed. But he supported bailing out Wall Street. ...

Posted by: gbooksdc | December 17, 2008 12:03 PM | Report abuse

As Popeye used say "Well, blow me down!" Newt Gingrich is taking a stand on principle against smearing Obama with Blagojevich. Or is he?

Unlike other wingnuts, Newt didn't really go after Clinton for the Monica Lewinski affair. Later we found out that Newt was having an affair himself at the time and was understandably keeping a low profile on morals issues.

Posted by: maggots | December 17, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

It appears Republicans never heard the story about the little boy who cried wolf.

Posted by: nodebris | December 17, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

why go after a suspected criminal when there are so many known criminals in the Dem ranks.

I am sure Rangel is loving the un-attention.

Posted by: king_of_zouk | December 17, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

a new drip....just revealed that RAHM made 21 phone calls to Blago. Silence from the Transition headquarters; Rahm is not at work; people want the truth and the content.

Posted by: poppadata | December 17, 2008 11:36 AM | Report abuse

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The truth is that you have nothing. There is nothing unusual about Rahm calling Blagojevich 21 or 51 times. Blagojevich is a Democratic governor from the same state as Rahm.

Too bad guys like you weren't more zealous in uncovering the real scandals in the Bush Administration.

Posted by: maggots | December 17, 2008 11:54 AM | Report abuse

The RNC'S insistence with continuing to campaign against President Elect Obama is more damaging to them than to Obama. With all the problems this country is facing including the latest Madoff debacle it seems to me it would make more sense for them to come up with a strategy to offer solutions and support the new President in his goals to right the country financial's woes, foreign policy diliema, ending the wars, etc. Finding out who said what and when is insigficant. The American public is not interested in Illinois politics. They want shelter, food, medical care, the troops back in America, etc.

Posted by: jackyk | December 17, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

So, now Newt thinks if he kisses the backside of the Democrats and the liberal media that he can be President? Didn’t work for McCain and it won’t work for Gingrich. Either Obama or Axelrdo lied about discussions with the Governor. GOP should be all over this and needs to have some backbone.

Posted by: targa47 | December 17, 2008 11:43 AM | Report abuse

a new drip....just revealed that RAHM made 21 phone calls to Blago. Silence from the Transition headquarters; Rahm is not at work; people want the truth and the content.

Posted by: poppadata | December 17, 2008 11:36 AM | Report abuse

I really try to hold on to my belief that our Republican competitors are honest, decent, sincere and patriotic individuals who simply disagree with Democrats on policy and philosophy. I want to hold onto my faith that the divisive, obviously bigoted and destructive campaigns of the old Southern Strategy and the modern Karl Rove are but momentary blemishes on the long and honorable traditions of the Grand Old Party. I need to trust that, despite low and banal campaigns by both parties, either party will govern based on it duty to our people and its love of our nation.

I desperately want keep my belief these things. But it’s hard to do in the face of the Republican National Committee’s obvious eagerness to tear down President-elect Obama whatever the cost to our nation.

When we Democrats were in despair over our crushing defeats of 2000 and 2004, I told my friends and colleagues, ‘we cannot defeat the Republicans for another 50 years; but they can defeat themselves in four.’ And, so they did.

To me, electing an African-American President of the United States is a blessing I never expected to see in my lifetime. That President-elect Obama seems to be a young man of extraordinary intelligence, good character, steady judgment and Chicago toughness thrills me and millions of other Americans. But, I and the American people would gladly have passed up this historic achievement if we could have avoided the damage our people, our economy, our Constitution and our international reputation has suffered in the past eight years.

The least Republicans can do is pray for the success of our new president, for the return of broad national prosperity and restoration of our role of moral leadership in the world. It is their duty to the nation, to the Republican Party and to their souls.

Posted by: JohnInTexas | December 17, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

Political parties as issue mobilizers are old; parties are issue consolidators and advocates appealing the dominant 'independent' middle are what 'sells' these days.

And then you have the influence of social networks and powerful organizers of opinion like MOVE-ON.

It would be naive to believe that Blago. and Rahm and perhaps even BHO DIDN'T have contacts to make sure that Valerie Jarrett--whose name was withdrawn only a day before Fitzi issued his charges...hmmmm. Dick Morris and other Dem. insiders believe it, and so do I.

All the evidence isn't in---neither Blago. his wife, the co-governor; nor all the wiretaps evidence has surfaced; until then it is premature to judge whether Rahm was acting as proxy or on his own, or seeking to pick his successor.

We just don't have all the facts; nor much of the evidence.

What we do have is a very opaque Obama Transition office conducting internal investigations of itself and then proclaiming it didn't find any 'inappropriate' contacts...uh huh!

The INDEPENDENT middle rules the American political system; and had the economic system not imploded the election would have been very close, and perhaps gone McCain's way.

The middle of the electorate is disgusted with corrupt political party insiders; and partially voted for Obama based on their view he was 'clean'....a view largely promoted by a media that ignored or glossed over a lot of evidence to the contrary.

51% of people in one survey thought Obama was not being sufficiently open about this matter....the steady dripping of negative leaks is not helping...Jesse Jackson, jr. an informer...what's next? Who wants to vote for a genuine ratfink?

So the wavering middle sits and waits for the next 'drip', and NEWT, instead of fathoming this middle or reaching back to his libertarian roots, or waiting for 'the truth'; seems to be sucking up to the incoming administration instead of promoting alternative 'solutions'.

...and, of course, the WAPO pundits lap up what they perceive to be a badly divided party of Republicrats, failing to realize out of the ashes is growing a very new party of independent business women, successful immigrants, Vietnamese and Indian, and others with a very different voice that has yet to be heard, let alone understood....Palin/Jindal is a very real possibility in four years.


Posted by: poppadata | December 17, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

"...as nothing more than a fool's errand given the lack of evidence that the public sees any real connection between the two men."

- thats never stopped them before.

Also Please dont confuse Gingrich or Ruffini's pleas for common sense here on this topic to be one of any kind of Bipartisan tack which would indicate some level of integrity or decency.
They are merely stating the obvious intrying to do Damage control to their brand which has been hit hard by fraud, crime, perversion and deceit.

Posted by: Fuelbreakingme | December 17, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

37thandORulesForever wrote: "You are a complete hypocrite - all the democrats have done for years is tear down the Bush administration and say Bush lied, Bush lied."

The difference of course is that Bush and his administration did indeed lie, lie, lie.

I'm sure that subtle distinction is lost on you, though.

Posted by: nodebris | December 17, 2008 11:03 AM | Report abuse

MUCH ADO ABOUT...A WARNING?

Blago knew he was being taped.

Blago spoke in code, using tip-off phrases like "pay to play," making outlandish demands to which no thinking person would accede. His correspondents picked up on the clues, and didn't take the bait.

The GOP, which had been licking its chops, was left with a charging document that shed no clear evidence of a crime.

Blago may have ensnared himself earlier, but he won't damage Obama with this particular set of facts.

Blago probably will withdraw but not resign from the governorship, pressing on with his legal battle or perhaps deciding to cop a plea on a minor charge. Then his lieutenant governor could appoint a respected politician to the Senate seat, and Obama will have escaped with only a warning -- that countervailing forces can make trouble for him if he and his people aren't careful.

BUT WILL THE ELECTION EVEN MATTER?

Not as long as government-supported "extrajudicial targeting" vigilante squads are "community stalking" American citizens, making a mockery of the rule of law:

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/american-gestapo-state-supported-terrorism-targets-u-s-citizens


WHAT IF THEY COULD SHOOT YOU
WITHOUT
LEAVING A TRACE? THEY CAN. AND DO.

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/zap-have-you-been-targeted-directed-energy-weapon-victims-organized-gang-stalking-say-its-happening-usa-1

OR members.nowpublic.com/scrivener


Posted by: scrivener50 | December 17, 2008 11:02 AM | Report abuse

Wright, Ayers, Rezko....now add Blago.

Problem is (Sean, Rush, Laura) there's simply no there, there.

Attack, obstruct, smear and attack again.

The GOP hasn't learned anything.

They've apparently selected Obama's pick for AG, Holder, to dig their heels in on. He'll get confirmed, but not until Specter sufficiently strokes the right wing base in PA (while raking Holder over the coals), as he approaches another possible primary challenge, not to mention a tough general.

The "tapes" will be released arounf Christmas, BHO will be in HI on th ebeach and come the new year, Americans STILL WON"T CARE.

Get it over righties, you'll be in the political wildnerness for awhile.

ps. the Bush-Cheney "legacy" road show, sounds and looks a lot like a bargain basement version of the sales job they pulled on Iraq, back in 2002 and 2003.

It ain't sellin this time.

Posted by: mathas | December 17, 2008 10:55 AM | Report abuse

You're missing the point here. And that is, that even at a time that rivals anytime in history in terms of a disastrous world economy and perilous security, the Republicans keep "playing" politics. And Gingrich only advises changing courses on this one matter because it is not working or has any decent chance of success, not because of any change in the ideaology of Limbaugh, Hannity etc, which still seems to dominate the GOP party. If the GOP does not roll up its sleeves and start cominig up with workable ideas and work with the new administration at solving this enormous mess, created mostly under its direction and control, it deserves to die and be replaced by another opposition party or parties.

Posted by: dlaselvaca | December 17, 2008 10:52 AM | Report abuse

THEY HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO DO! THEIR PRESIDENT LIED AND SPIED ON US, AMERICAN CITIZENS!!
LIED US INTO A 3 TRILLION DOLLAR WAR! WAR CRIMES, YOU BE CHENEY! YOU WILL BURN FOR ETERNITY!
THE ECONOMY IS CRUMBLING, AND YOU WANT TO MAKE THIS INTO AN ISSUE, YOU HAVE NOTHING ELSE.
There are 4 people in this country who care, ok, you and 3 others Duncan.
MEANWHILE, SHELBY OF ALABAMA, GIVE A BILLION DOLLARS OF OUR, OUR, TAX SUBSIDES, TO FOREIGN COMPANIES TO BUILD CARS IN HIS STATE. THE PEOPLE IN THE SOUTH PAY VIRTUALLY NO TAXES, NOT LIKE THE REST OF US, SO IT'S OUR TAX DOLLARS.
BUT HE REFUSES TO HELP 3 MILLION AMERICA, AMERICAN AUTO WORKERS IN THE NORTH.
I FOR ONE, REFUSE TO BUY ANY PRODUCT MADE IN THE SOUTH. HYUNDI, HONDA AND BMW'S, ALL MADE IN HIS PRECIOUS ALABAMA.
I don't begrudge jobs in Alabama through our tax dollars in subsides, but he is presonally trying to put Americans out of work.
THESE ARE THE SAME, PHONEY CHRISTIANS WHO WRAP THE BIBLE IN A FLAG, AND CALL YOU, UNPATRIOTIC!
PHONEY LIARS

Posted by: Cookie100 | December 17, 2008 10:50 AM | Report abuse

I'm not siding with Blago, but this video shows what he was doing the very day before the indictment.

"What Blagojevich was doing right before he was indicted"
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/501.html

As always, this is pure coincidence.

Posted by: bloggersvilleusa | December 17, 2008 10:50 AM | Report abuse

I don't understand why Republicans cannot read the election results from 2008 and see that voters overwhelmingly rejected McCain's attacks on Obama's tangential associations.

The election is over, Obama has a soaring approval rating, and the FBI has proven that Obama had nothing to do with Blagojevich's crazy graft schemes.

Voters want Obama to rescue the economy and move forward on the myriad problems that the Bush regime created. If Republicans want to pick petty fights that are clearly trumped up to interfere with Obama's goals, they will continue to punish Republicans by stripping them of what little power they have left.

Voters want Republicans to stand up if Obama and the Democrats get out of line. They don't want Republicans to continue these stupid partisan wars that put Party First, not Country First.

Posted by: AxelDC | December 17, 2008 10:48 AM | Report abuse

Clean hits? At the new President-elect? At a time when Bush's wars and complete abdication of oversight of the mortgage market is bringing this country to its knees? Just how stupid and craven are Republicans?

Posted by: kurtandstephen | December 17, 2008 10:45 AM | Report abuse

There have been corrupt goons in both parties, and the parties that preceded them, for years. On just the GOP side,long before Sen. Stevens, there were several Reagan Administration officials indicated, and the Republicans had the only administration in U.S. history where both the President and Vice President (Nixon and Agnew) were forced to resign. Remember, the voters of Alaska nearly reelected Sen. Stevens after he was indicated, so voters have to decide whether corruption is acceptable even if the pols involved have brought the bacon home to the voters.

Posted by: Sutter | December 17, 2008 10:42 AM | Report abuse

This year the media has failed Journalism 101.

O was PUBLICLY EXONERATED by the prosecutor in the Blags matter at the very outset. Shortly after that, so was Rahm. Yet bloviators like the profane Morning Joe (shouldn't he be on Faux News?) continue to try to tie O to Blags. This is Rev. Wright, Rev. Pfleger, Resko, Professor Ayers, flag pins, and fistbumps all over again. More bigoted tripe. The Fairness Doctrine couldn't come soon enough.

Question: 37thandORulesForever, are you also 37andOrules and 37thO and 37thandOstreet and DorchesterandCongress and so on. 37, isn't this your 15th troll name change? What gives, 37?

37, to the substance of your last rant, O-Nation investigated itself because O wanted to get to the bottom of whether his staff had inappropriate contacts with Blags. He did just that and an internal investigative report was generated. The prosecutor asked O not to release that report. O respected that request aand complied. Why is it so hard for you and that fool at O's last conference to understand this? The Blags matter is an ongoing criminal matter and it is inappropriate for O or Rahm to comment on it.

Now that the sensationalism of the Blags story has died down, legal articles are now being written about whether Blags, who was certainly guilty of criminal boorishness and bad manners actually broke any law in this case, and whether garden-variety politicking is being criminalized here.

BTW, Time Magazine just named BHO as man of the year.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | December 17, 2008 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Gingrich should go away. Just disappear.

And take Tom Delay with him to muted oblivion.

The Gingrich-Delay era branded the GOP as corrupt goons.

The RNC does not need to help Gov. Blagojevich remind the world that the Democratic Party has always been run by corrupt goons.

Because of America's teetering economy, I'm praying that Barack Obama will be the first example of the Chicago Democratic machine promoting a choir boy and not a crook.

Posted by: Gidgmom | December 17, 2008 10:38 AM | Report abuse

I love Morning Joe. This morning I tuned in at 8:30 to catch the headlines. Just cataclysmic financial news. Regardless of where you stand politically, things are not good right now and we and our country are facing several, disparate avenues of economic catastrophe (deflation? or hyper-inflation? etc.).

They announce Axelrod is up next so I stay tuned in to hear his perspective on those headlines. Mika and Joe then go on a pointless tear of questions about Blago. Please just shoot them.

Your viewers (in the Post's case readers) live in serious world and you are doing yourselves and your viewers a horrible disservice by spending any time at all on the semantics of what Emmanuel or Axelrod said about Blago last summer, or whether Obama endorsed him in 2002, or any of the other transparent BS that no sane person could care less about. Joe you are wrong. The American people do not want to know anything about this crap. We are smart enough to figure out the relationship when Blago told Obama to F himself.

Focus on what matters.

Posted by: LeRiverend | December 17, 2008 10:30 AM | Report abuse

37thandORulesForever

What planet are you living on? The GOP Congress with Bush as President marginalized/pushed aside the democrats. Remember the GOP accusing dems of being unpatriotic for questioning Bush? Remember the GOP immediately attacking Clinton from day 1? Remember the GOP borrowing $5 trillion to spend on the war and GOP BS? By the by, where are the weapons of mass destruction?

Posted by: Freethotlib | December 17, 2008 10:30 AM | Report abuse

Of course, the Republican revolt comes only after it is clear that the approach isn't working. Going for the quick and easy smear remains the GOP's preferred mode.

Posted by: skrut003 | December 17, 2008 10:30 AM | Report abuse

Please Republicans...Ignore Newt.

Keep attacking, keep yelling "Sarah, Sarah, Sarah", continue to allow the American Evangelical Taliban to control your ideology, keep listening to Rush and Hannity (and believing every word they say), keep thinking you lost because you weren't "conservative enough"....puleeeeze!

Posted by: willandjansdad1 | December 17, 2008 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Better that Newt Gingrich protest this kind of politics than engage in it, I suppose, but you can see the politics in his words if you look closely enough. If he thought any sort of scandalous Obama-Blagojevich connection could be made, he'd pursue it. But he's reading between the lines here; there's no proven connection and it's likely there won't be, so it's a better political move for him to decry it. That way, the next time he does attack Obama, people will be able to say, "Look, it's not just partisan sniping! He didn't go after him over Blagojevich, remember?"

Maybe I'm just naturally skeptical.

Posted by: GJonahJameson | December 17, 2008 10:21 AM | Report abuse

The Newt is taking the right tone, the question is whether anyone is listening to him. He has a long way to go before he's even a figurehead in the party - at this point he's more of an outsider looking in.

Posted by: bsimon1 | December 17, 2008 10:19 AM | Report abuse

"Republicans should be eager to work with [Obama] when he is right, and, when he is wrong, offer a better solution, instead of just opposing him."

Very good statement Newt.

I have alot of respect for a man with this kind of logic. This is exactly what Obama wants, help him when he is right, help him when he is wrong by providing more options instead of just crying about it.

Posted by: Independent4tw | December 17, 2008 8:22 AM | Report abuse

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Of course, Newt is just lyin' to get by on this one as he has everything else.

THIS is the clown who was the author of the "Contract ON America". I know that he called it the Contract WITH America, but what American in their right mind would want our country to be in the shape it's in now ?

Newt is acting like a cousin to the reptile that he's named after, the snake, in that he's just waiting for some unsuspecting person to walk by before he bites them.

Keep in mind, this is the SOB that pushed so hard for Clinton's impeachment over a blow job when he was screwing around on his wife who was in the hospital being treated for CANCER !!! What a guy !!! Family values all the way !!!

Yeah, the Republican pricks are just trying to tone it down until they get enough morons lined up to get them back in power. I just hope our country can survive because these clowns have not shown good judgement when it comes to governing.

Posted by: dennissuper | December 17, 2008 10:15 AM | Report abuse

I sincerely hope that Mr. Duncan and his narrow, non inclusive wing of the GOP continues business as usual. We've seen what their way (fiscal conservatism, compassionate conservatism, borrow and spend theory) has done for the country. I guess Mr. Duncan and his wing of the GOP are angry that they weren't given more time to complete their destruction of our democracy and our economy. They are headed to the tar pits and we should not discourage them.

Posted by: Freethotlib | December 17, 2008 10:13 AM | Report abuse

I think Gingrich has it right when he says, "Republicans should be eager to work with [Obama] when he is right, and, when he is wrong, offer a better solution, instead of just opposing him."

The problem with Republicanism these days is that they do not have a better solution. After having embraced the Rush Limbaugh tact on politics, Republicans have lost their philisophical identity. As evident with the recent RNC add there is still a belief that Rush Limbaugh, talk radio style tacts work. They don't. Newt, Colin Powell, et al, are all right.

All of what was just said is coming from a Democrat.

Posted by: BigB1 | December 17, 2008 9:42 AM | Report abuse

Boo hoo, the Rethugs' playbook doesn't work anymore.

Good riddance.

Posted by: spotfoul | December 17, 2008 9:38 AM | Report abuse

ENOUGH ALREADY. "our hits against him have to be clean hits, or they will blow up in our face" Is this party ever going to figure out that their ugly politics has totally worn out. It isn't about "PARTY" it is about the nation and the pile of poop that has been left on the doorstep of the White House. Republicans may find more independents/moderates will consider them again when they decide to start playing for the better of the nation instead of their tired party politics.

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Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | December 17, 2008 9:36 AM | Report abuse

vbhoomes said:
"Of course you can go to far and have it backfire. But RNC has not done it so far. Its fairly vanilla."

Maybe fairly vanilla in better times, but definitely rotten eggs during a severe recession. Sounds like you've still dreaming re: the Rove Plan.

Dream on, it's over.


thandORulesForever: Bush lied. If you can't see it, you must be wearing a tinfoil blindfold.

Posted by: corporatemediawatcher | December 17, 2008 9:32 AM | Report abuse

Let us not forget, it was the 'Gingrich' philosophy of 'DIVIDE and CONQUER'.
How is that working?

Funny, now after blitzing the air waves prior to the November election, Illinois Republicans were
pushing a ‘NO’ vote for a Constitutional Convention, “due to a lack of money in our state of Illinois”. Now the RNC is pushing for a special election.

It is funny. It was too expensive for the State then bit now, we can change the law and so what if it is not affordable, they have a possible US Senate seat.

The people of Illinois did vote; we voted for Obama. I think it should be up to Obama to appoint his replacement. After all, it was him we voted for and we would trust him to appoint the person that moist follows his philosophy. That won’t happen but maybe the law should change to give the predecessor the appointment responsibility. I doubt it ; that makes sense and is fiscally responsible.

I guess we can charge (are the cards still good) this special election to our children or grandchildren. Now this is FISCAL CONSERVATISM.

People should not be so blind-sided and forget or ignore the DUPAGE COUNTY Republicans, Especially their fearless leader…Mr. Burnett !

Anyway, the Republicans are going to have questions that will require answers in the very near future regarding their relations with G-ROD! WAKE UP REPORTERS!!!

Posted by: sasha2008 | December 17, 2008 9:30 AM | Report abuse

Blagojavich will pass over, he will go to jail as is custom in Chicago for Governors, and the President Elect will be completely vindicated, staff talking with a Governor is not a crime, nor criminal regardless of how much you wish it were, bad press is not fatal, as some here seem to imply. This is a distraction, the Repugs can't afford to pander to, I hope they do, but not for their benefit. This crisis will illuminate Republicans for the double speaking, cynicism selling opportunists that they are, as they drive for idological twofers and the crucifixion of organized labor the county's economic situation contiues to worsen, Blagojevich chasing will only further alienate this party which is find by many American since they haven't camr up with a constructive idea in 6 years, good luck selling what your selling, the only people buying are those who already have the product

(The auto bailout will hunt this party)

This is not the bottom, this is just getting started, and a few Southern Republican Senators attempts to politicize this crisis as an opportunity to crush organized labor in this country will be remembered through posterity as the beginning of the possibly avoidable end.

"the nonpartisan Tax Foundation have consistently shown that these Senators' states receive far more from the Federal government than they pay back in taxes. That's an irony that could lead to some Blue State bitterness: They love to preach about fiscal responsibility and lower taxes, but they keep dipping their beak into the Federal trough.

I believe the applicable Southern phrase is "a handful of gimme and a mouthful of much obliged."

The numbers in the Foundation's most recent study speak for themselves: Mitch McConnell's Kentucky took in $1.45 from the Feds for every dollar it paid in taxes. That's a 45 cent free ride. Bob Corker's Tennessee received at 30-cent Federal giveaway. And Richard Shelby's Alabama extracted a whopping 71-cent subsidy from Northern taxpayers.

What about Michigan? They lost 31 cents for every dollar they paid. In other words, McConnell, Shelby, and Corker have been skimming a percentage off these autoworkers' taxes for years on behalf of their constituents. Now, when the same Michigan taxpayers need help, these Senators are telling them to get lost."

You can't rebuild America or a Party with double speak and hypocrisy of this magnitude, the sooner American's wake up and stop buying a partyline designed only to create cynicism and moral outrage instead of innovative solutions we can start digging out of this hole.

Posted by: ProudSouthernAmerican | December 17, 2008 9:30 AM | Report abuse

And the GOP used to be so GOOD at message discipline. You know the party's over when they can't even agree on a party line.....

Posted by: WaitingForGodot | December 17, 2008 9:26 AM | Report abuse


Nice to see Republicans like Newt finally act like citizens of the same country their political opponents live in.

Why, he didn't even accuse any Democrats of being "unpatriotic"!

Fancy that.

Posted by: tony_in_Durham_NC | December 17, 2008 9:24 AM | Report abuse

Rove's dream of a permanent Republican majority consumed the party and destroyed it. In their lust to make Rove's plan a reality, the Republicans became "party first, country last". They were so sure it was going to happen they got cocky and careless. We the People were brushed...make that shoved...aside while the Republican party wrecklessly pursued power.

I don't see how they can rehab the party any time soon. There are too many amongst them in blind denial of their downfall who stubbornly continue to chase the dream.

Posted by: corporatemediawatcher | December 17, 2008 9:21 AM | Report abuse

Looks like Newt is sucking up to the MSM on hopes they will shower this Narcisstic buthead with compliments on how he has grown since being out of office. We are the opposition party Newt, which means we should try to knock Obama down a peg. Of course you can go to far and have it backfire. But RNC has not done it so far. Its fairly vanilla.

Posted by: vbhoomes | December 17, 2008 9:21 AM | Report abuse

Note to the newt:

"Goals of the Republican Party in the midst of the nation's troubled economic times and about whether we have actually learned anything from the defeats of 2006 and 2008."

The goals of the rebupican party resulted in the economic and political conditions bringing about your resounding trashings in 2006 and 2008, and bubba, there are more to come.

None other than the newt created and perfected the "guilt by association" tactic of political assassination. It will, of course, completely fail in the case of Bribovich and Obama. But newt, let's try this one on for size: how about the connections between the Pukester cunningham, now inmate, and Mr Wade, recently sentenced but singing like a bird, and let me see now, oh yes, your buddy, Jerry Lewis, (R) Redlands, CA. Anyone want to set their alerts to watch this one in google for the next few months? Should make for some interesting drama. Semper Fidelis

Posted by: nrringlee | December 17, 2008 9:15 AM | Report abuse

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Funny how you fail to ADMIT THIS IS A DEMOCRATIC SCANDAL - A FAILURE OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY TO GET RID OF ITS LEADERS THAT ARE OBVIOUSLY BAD.


BLAGO IS YOURS.

This has nothing to do with the Republicans - however you all feel comfortable ATTACKING THE REPUBLICANS OVER THIS - are you a joke?

The democrats have got to be kidding.


This is a time to review how the Democratic party let a scum like this become a leader of their party, how he got re-elected - AND TO START TO FIX THE WAY THE DEMOCRATS HAVE SCUM LIKE THIS IN THEIR LEADERSHIP.


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Posted by: 37thandORulesForever | December 17, 2008 9:01 AM | Report abuse

Nixon?Agnew=Watergate
Reagan/Bush=an oscar winning performance
Bush/Quayle=Iran contragate
Bush/Cheaney=9/11 Iraqigate
Repblicans with a boot in the a$$=PRICELESS

Posted by: anOPINIONATEDsob | December 17, 2008 8:58 AM | Report abuse

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You are a complete hypocrite - all the democrats have done for years is tear down the Bush administration and say Bush lied, Bush lied.

It became a joke.


Bill Clinton is on tape saying Saddam had WMDs - do they run around saying Clinton lied, Clinton lied ???


The democrats have attacked the Republicans for years


NOW they say they want national unity when their guy is in, however they refused to have national unity for the past few years WHEN OUR TROOPS WERE RISKING THEIR LIVES IN A WAR ZONE - it is the most hypocritical thing I have ever heard. GO POUND SALT.


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Posted by: 37thandORulesForever | December 17, 2008 8:56 AM | Report abuse

This is par for the course with conservatives. Don't worry about whether something is actually TRUE if you can coat it with enough innuendo and pretend out-rage. As a whole, the GOP is more interested in tearing down than building up. With preserving "how things are done" instead of fixing what's broken. With discrediting their "enemy" than honest disagreement. With "winning" instead of governing. And THAT'S why they will continue to lose for the foreseeable future.

And it's doubly ironic that it's Newt Gingrich chastising the GOP for the way they play the game...since HE'S one of the folks who wrote the book on destructive "gotcha politics". What a hypocrit. He was snarking at Bill Clinton for the Monica affair while Gingrich himself was cheating on his cancer stricken wife!

The GOP will contiue to harp on this non-story until everybody tires of it, at that point they'll hunker down in their rhetorical corner to nurse their sense of grievance about nobody taking their whines seriously.

It's what they do.

Posted by: WilyArmadilla | December 17, 2008 8:44 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, drill baby drill! Republicans will never change. Vindictive bunch of cynical, divisive dogs! They should all be thrown the shoe!

Posted by: 2Funny | December 17, 2008 8:38 AM | Report abuse

"nothing more than a fool's errand....."

Who else would be running such an errand?

For most Republicans, the drill is "oppose!"

Posted by: odell1 | December 17, 2008 8:27 AM | Report abuse

harkadahl - It's treated as a new strategy because Gingrich is the originator of the slash and burn politics of personal destruction. He did everything he could to take down Clinton for no reason other than partisan gain, and to have him appeal to higher ideals now is like a drunkard decrying alcohol.

Posted by: nrudy | December 17, 2008 8:23 AM | Report abuse

"Republicans should be eager to work with [Obama] when he is right, and, when he is wrong, offer a better solution, instead of just opposing him."

Very good statement Newt.

I have alot of respect for a man with this kind of logic. This is exactly what Obama wants, help him when he is right, help him when he is wrong by providing more options instead of just crying about it.

Posted by: Independent4tw | December 17, 2008 8:22 AM | Report abuse

Gingrich boils it down to a single sentence: "Republicans should be eager to work with [Obama] when he is right, and, when he is wrong, offer a better solution, instead of just opposing him."

Why is this treated like some clever new strategy, when all politicians and political parties should behave this way at all times?

Gingrich is making a tacit admission that modern American politics is all about opposing or approving anything if it will get your snout in the trough.

Posted by: harkadahl | December 17, 2008 8:14 AM | Report abuse

Would you please pass this message along to Morning Joke. He didn't seem to get the GOP memo.
They are very close to losing a loyal viewer due to the fact that I am tired of his tirades over this fact. I already change over to something else when he gets started but it is getting crazy.
Thanks Chris for talking about this. It is so stupid.

Posted by: sweetlucy47 | December 17, 2008 7:54 AM | Report abuse

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Chris this posting of yours is silly - these scandals have one message which goes through all: the parties REFUSE to shun their own leaders who have gone astray.

Seriously bad behavior is not looked down upon anymore -


Instead promotions are in order - granted the voters appear to be reluctant to punish bad political behavior as well - witness the long cast of characters who either get re-elected or nearly re-elected.


The message is clear: bad behavior is no longer punished - so try to get away with something because the penalties, if any, are not that great.

Illinois democrats KNEW FOR YEARS that Blagojevich was no good - and the Voters did too - HOW DID HE GET RE-ELECTED???


This crucial element of our democracy has been thrown out the window.

The threat through your posting Chris is that the polls reflect something, so the opposing side should be a little quiet on this issue.


Well - why should all political people follow the polls - sometimes speaking up leads the poll numbers.


Why should political speach be motivated solely by the poll numbers?


Next, ALL the corruption in Illinois should be rooted out - not just Blagojevich and his advisors.

The CULTURE OF TOLERANCE OF POLITICAL CORRUPTION has to come to the end.


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Posted by: 37thandORulesForever | December 17, 2008 7:28 AM | Report abuse

It's very difficult to re-train attack dogs which is what much of the Republican leaderhship is. One would have assumed that the rejection of negative politics in the past election would make them wake up and realise that beating the public over the head with an unproven Blago-Obama connection would blow-up in their faces...

Let them continue to remain negative hypocritics... They won't exist much longer.

Posted by: RickJ | December 17, 2008 7:26 AM | Report abuse

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These are the same Republican leaders who have failed us before:


- They failed to properly enforce the regulations we have on Wall Street

- They were more interested in money from hedge fund lobbyists than proper regulation of the mortgage funds which were obviously out of control

- They refused to even consider getting rid of Greenspan

- They blew this year's election - refusing to properly attack the democratic candidates


- They bungled the response to the democrats' anti-war message


- They refuse to police excesses among themselves - tolerate bad behavior in their own ranks

- They let spending on Capitol Hill go out of control for years against the tenets of the party


So Chris WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT - WE NEED TO GET RID OF THESE BELTWAY BUMS, NOT LISTEN TO THEM.


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Posted by: 37thandORulesForever | December 17, 2008 7:18 AM | Report abuse

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