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Obama's Economic Vulnerability?

National Republicans, desperate for a bit of good news, have seized on new polling out of the Gallup organization that shows the American people growing increasingly skeptical of not only the direction of the economy but the approach being taken by President Obama.

The poll, which was in the field at the end of May showed 55 percent of the sample approving of how Obama was handling the economy with 42 percent disapproving -- a significant decline from a February Gallup survey that showed 59 percent approving as compared to 30 percent disapproving.

The data also showed the public divided on how Obama is handling the federal budget deficit with 46 percent approving and 48 percent disapproving and slightly more negative than positive on how the administration is "controlling federal spending" (45 percent approve/51 percent disapprove).

"A chink in the Obama armor?" National Republican Congressional Campaign Committee communications director Ken Spain asked in an email to reporters highlighting the data.

"As the debt grows, so too does American discontent with the seemingly daily increase in red ink," said Don Stewart, a spokesman for Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.). "The fact that the federal government is doing the equivalent of taking a cash advance to make the minimum payment on the debt doesn't inspire confidence, and it shows."

Republicans have long held that Obama himself is far more popular than his policies, meaning that while Obama may be immune to the typical hills and valleys of electoral politics that Democrats on the ballot in 2010 will not be.

The Gallup data would seem to back up that contention as despite his somewhat mediocre numbers on the handling of the economy, Obama remains wildly popular. Nearly seven in ten (67 percent) of voters view him favorably while just 32 percent view him in an unfavorable light -- numbers changed only slightly from late March (69 percent favorable) and down only marginally from the stratospheric 78 percent favorable he had in early January.

The fight over the economy is perhaps the best fight Republicans can pick at the moment as it tends to play into voters' preconceptions about the party -- that it is committed to smaller government, lower taxes and eliminated deficits. (Whether that perception matches up with reality is another whole post.)

Obama has acknowledged that the heavy increases in government spending put in place in the early days of his Administration cannot continue ad infinitum.

"We are also very mindful that having a set up a stimulus, already inheriting over a trillion dollar deficit, given that the national debt has doubled, that as soon as economic recovery takes place, then we have got to bend the curve and figure out how do we get federal spending on a more sustainable path," Obama explained in an interview with Post reporters and editors earlier this year.

And, Obama is also well aware that implementation of the $787 billion economic stimulus package is critical to how his economic plans are received by the American public. It's why Obama is announcing a plan to grow the economy by 600,000 jobs over the next three months as a direct result of the stimulus.

Much -- in fact almost everything -- depends on whether the economy is seen by voters as having turned around enough to reward Obama's approach or punish it in the 2010 midterm elections.

By Chris Cillizza  |  June 8, 2009; 11:12 AM ET
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hey jake, do you think obama can stop blaming everyone else for this mess? i do. its a proven fact that he has quadrupled the deficit,and still wants to spend. he lied about going over, line by line to stop earmarks,but here we are millions to study pig odor in iowa? if they wanted to study swine odor,they only have to get a whiff of that stimulous bill,or nancy piglosi

Posted by: silusdogood | June 9, 2009 6:24 PM | Report abuse

newbeeboy (from Yahoo News):

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich went even further that "hidden inflation creeping in" last night and said that Obama’s "plan" to fix the economy through stimulus spending and government intervention with companies like General Motors Corp. has "already failed."

Gingrich was the keynote speaker at a fundraising dinner for the Republican House and Senate campaign committees, filling a role President George W. Bush had served for the past eight years.

"Bureaucrats managing companies does not work, politicians dominating the economy does not work," Gingrich told about 2,000 Republicans who attended the event at the Washington Convention Center last night.

Some Republican leaders hailed Gingrich, the leader of the 1994 "Republican Revolution," as a de facto head of the party at a time when Republicans are looking for ideas to lead them back to the majority.

In introducing Gingrich, Representative Paul Ryan of Wisconsin called him the “architect of the last reform movement” and “the man of ideas.”

Gingrich was preceded by a series of Republican leaders who also took aim at Democrats and the government bailout of Detroit-based GM, New York-based American International Group Inc. and other companies.

Congress in February passed a $787 billion stimulus measure that Republican lawmakers have criticized, saying it hasn’t lived up to administration promises.

Obama said yesterday there are signs the economy may be headed toward a recovery. "We're seeing a reduction in the fear that gripped the market just a few months ago," he said at the White House.

‘Radical Agenda’

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky said Obama has a "radical agenda." Republicans have "watched them take over banks, insurance companies, auto companies," he said, “and now they want to take over your health care.”

Posted by: JakeD | June 9, 2009 1:44 PM | Report abuse

(cont.)

"We’re going to need some wins next November to slow down their agenda," said McConnell. House Minority Leader John Boehner of Ohio said Democrats are using their control of Congress "to bury our children and the middle class under a mountain of debt."

Actor Jon Voight, the master of ceremonies, opened the evening with a series of sharp attacks on Obama, something many Republican leaders have been hesitant to do in light of the president’s high approval ratings.

A USA Today/Gallup Poll taken May 29-31 gave him a 61 percent approval rating.

‘Weak Nation’

"We are becoming a weak nation," said Voight, calling Obama a "false prophet." Republicans need to find their way back to power to free the nation from "this Obama oppression," he said.

Both McConnell and Senator Orrin Hatch of Utah, who followed Voight, seemed pleasantly surprised.

"I’m still just reveling that someone from Hollywood made a speech like that. I hope you’re going to be able to find work after this," said McConnell. "I really enjoyed that."

Senator John Cornyn of Texas called the speech "refreshing."

The dinner, which included 150 members of Congress, raised $14.5 million for the Republican House and Senate campaign committees.

Alaska Governor and former Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin and Virginia Republican gubernatorial candidate Bob McDonnell were among the special guests.

Posted by: JakeD | June 9, 2009 1:43 PM | Report abuse

I personally am beginning to 'feel' hidden inflation creeping in. We did get a real decrease in gasoline costs, but when I go to shop for basic retail items, they seem to be lightening my wallet.

James Carville should have never been sidelined (Hillary made this great error); he knows what the American people are all about, our own personal economic 'feel'.

Posted by: newbeeboy | June 9, 2009 9:07 AM | Report abuse

Putin knows a lot about socialism.. he warned the West about making changes in the monetary and financial systems.. and expecting to be able to control the outcome.

I've heard at least on economist say that our systems are so large and complex that modeling (accurate) is mostly impossible.

Posted by: newbeeboy | June 9, 2009 9:03 AM | Report abuse

China is going to stop investing in the U.S. Treasury fairly soon.

Posted by: JakeD | June 9, 2009 1:39 AM | Report abuse

Chrisfox8,
I will say this once and you can take it or leave it. I do not watch TV. I do not listen to radio talk shows. What I see happening I read about on line or see on the network news. I have read more history than you can imagine. This country is walking off the end of the earth following the likes of you. Why don’t you wake up and see the damage being done. I believe you may be too intelligent from your reading to understand life itself but I see a bleak future for my grand children and it will be because intellects like you have all the wrong answers. I can plainly see history’s answers and they contradict your theory. This government is not working for my best interest but it may be yours. Clinton, Bush or the Obama administrations. The change we need is not happening and you are helping make it worse with your acid debate. I am not a racist or a bigot or a right wing radical, but I am worried about the future for my family. You have no idea how many feel the same way I do, so it would be in your best interest to understand why the storm is brewing. I am only looking for answers and truth but you are looking for excuses. No propaganda from me, just intuition.

Posted by: longbow65 | June 9, 2009 12:24 AM | Report abuse

Republicans have no credibility on the important issue of the economy. Look at the large, unnecessary, budget deficits during the Reagan, Bush I and Bush II presidencies. The vast majority of Republicans strongly supported an agenda which led to a gargantuan increase in the national debt.

Republican policies have been morally and economically bankrupt, helping the rich get richer, wasting hunreds of billions on military spending, while ignoring vital domestic needs, including health care, education, public safety.

That said, how 46% of those polled can approve Obama's handling of budget deficits, which will be at record levels for at least a couple years, and will likely contribute to high inflation within a couple years is incomprehensible. Fiscal responsibility and the notion of greater individual responsibility, coupled with just opportunities, has been an alien concept to four of the most recent five presidents, with the Clinton administration being the exception.

Posted by: Aprogressiveindependent | June 8, 2009 11:51 PM | Report abuse

Why don't you turn off the propaganda and read a history book. Books are where you learn things, not TV

Posted by: chrisfox8 | June 8, 2009 10:49 PM | Report abuse

Chrisfox8, you did not mention that the Soviets did not last but two generations before they folded. Stalin had just a little purge to make in the meantime just to clean out the rif-raff. Maybe you are right, Obama may be just the man to usher in communism to a 16 century backward nation like the United States. We must be backward to put him in office.

My knowledge and understanding comes only from Glen Beck. I don’t listen to the other right wing radicals.

Posted by: longbow65 | June 8, 2009 7:52 PM | Report abuse

For the record, I am glad that libs are no longer refuting the question of Obama's Economic Vulnerability. Please, DON'T post any more ; )

Posted by: JakeD | June 8, 2009 7:07 PM | Report abuse

"Anyone out there please, talk to me! Anyone! Please! PLEASE!!!

Posted by JakeD

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Moms, make sure your kids get plenty of love or, well, you see what can happen?

Posted by: chrisfox8 | June 8, 2009 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Where are all of you libs now?

Posted by: JakeD | June 8, 2009 6:44 PM | Report abuse

It's quite interesting that no one has defended against the question of Obama's Economic Vulnerability ever since the news broke that the Supreme Court will indeed review the automobile BKs. Have we finally turned the corner on Obama's Socialism Plan?

Posted by: JakeD | June 8, 2009 6:40 PM | Report abuse

bsimon1:

Probably on news that the U.S. Supreme Court put the brakes on Obama's takeover of Chrysler!!!

Posted by: JakeD | June 8, 2009 4:17 PM | Report abuse

vbhoomes, as you have done, I will likewise step back from more antagonistic rhetoric. Over at the NYT, there's a post that the US may send Gov Richardson or former VP Gore over to NK to negotiate the release of the journalists. Richardson apparently performed that role twice before, in the 90s. That seems like an appropriate step at this time. The reporting I've seen on interdiction is that the US will continue to do so; NK has made additional threats about how they might react. It is unclear what the next step will be. I am confident that the Obama administration will react appropriately.

Posted by: bsimon1 | June 8, 2009 4:11 PM | Report abuse

"FWIW the Dow Jones is off 96.25 right now.

Posted by: JakeD | June 8, 2009 2:37 PM "


FWIW the Dow is now even for the day.

That's the problem with instant-tracking of various indices - they constantly change.


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Posted by: bsimon1 | June 8, 2009 4:06 PM | Report abuse

BISIMON: The two journalists being held by NK is a separate issue from the containment policy that I advocate. We should use diplomacy to get back the americans from NK Gulag. The containment policy is now under active considertion by the Obama administration. They have already stated they will interdict NK ships to keep them from proliferating nuclear parts and arms. I am sure they are also discussing whether or not to shoot down the next long range missile NK launches. There are certain red lines that we have, that if crossed, will bring about a US Military response. Ultimately NK will decide if its worth it to go to war with us after we take these preventive actions. So I find myself on the same page as President Obama, I don't know what page you are operating off.

Posted by: vbhoomes | June 8, 2009 3:41 PM | Report abuse

I'm guessing a lot of Sarah lovers end up on this site...

http://www.sarapac.com/

"(This website is not affiliated with, authorized by, or paid for by any political party, political candidate, or political action committee, and has no affiliation with Sarah Palin or SarahPAC.com, which is probably where you meant to go, but you ended up here because you can't type or spell.)"

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HAW HAW HAW

Posted by: chrisfox8 | June 8, 2009 3:26 PM | Report abuse

"As said before, we need to have a policy of containment. That means interdicting their ships and shooting down any more long range missisle."

This is just worthless, braindead, moronic Cold War walk. Containment??? Is NK trying to spread their new idea of Communism around the world? Perhaps we should start defoliating a small jungle country in Southeast Asia.

Posted by: DDAWD | June 8, 2009 3:24 PM | Report abuse

vbhoomes writes
"BSIMON: I don't know where you get this stuff about me going to war over two journalists, its not what I said. I guess the only way you believe you can win an argument is to simply make up stuff."

Of course, that's not what I wrote, which was:
"I am fairly shocked though, that in a conversation about two journalists held in NK, vbhoomes can reach a position of "if that means war, so be it" so quickly. It is fairly unreasonable to argue that if NK doesn't do what we want on the timeframe we want, the 'obvious' answer is to start bombing."

that was in response to vbhoomes' comment:
"I agree we will not know for sure until we get those two journalists home to be debriefed. But I am sure they were a very tempting target for NK's, as they can use them a bargaining chips and to some degree try to hold the US hostage for their release. From what I read the Obama administration is headed in the right way towards getting tough with NK. Its evident that diplomacy is a waste of time with NK. As said before, we need to have a policy of containment. That means interdicting their ships and shooting down any more long range missisle. If that means war, so be it."

So, vbhoomes' stream of though went:
1) NK might hold the journalists hostage as 'chips' for negotiations
2) diplomacy (i.e. negotiation) doesn't work
3) containment will work; possibly including firing weapons
4) if that means war, so be it


did I make up some claim about going to war over journalists? Or is vbhoomes now doing a little "making stuff up" of his own?

Posted by: bsimon1 | June 8, 2009 3:16 PM | Report abuse

As for DADT, it would be interesting if being gay could have got you out of the military draft back in the Vietnam era.

Just think of all the guys who wouldn't have had to go to Canada--they could have just stayed home and played gay. Then in 1973 they could have all "prayed away the gay."

Posted by: mikeinmidland | June 8, 2009 2:51 PM | Report abuse


Yes, Obama said more or less that if the economy wasn't better in 3 years, he didn't deserve to be re-elected. He is correct, even though any president isn't really responsible for the whole economy.

Let's all hope the economy is in much better shape by then, regardless of who is elected in 2012.

Posted by: mikeinmidland | June 8, 2009 2:47 PM | Report abuse

I'm guessing a lot of Sarah lovers end up on this site...

http://www.sarapac.com/

"(This website is not affiliated with, authorized by, or paid for by any political party, political candidate, or political action committee, and has no affiliation with Sarah Palin or SarahPAC.com, which is probably where you meant to go, but you ended up here because you can't type or spell.)"

Posted by: DDAWD | June 8, 2009 2:40 PM | Report abuse

FWIW the Dow Jones is off 96.25 right now.

Posted by: JakeD | June 8, 2009 2:37 PM | Report abuse

new rightiwng movement:

As you all know, one of the purposes of the fiscal scold program is to break the generational compact on social security --- basically to foment generational warfare. I had heard last week that as part of that plan, the Peterson Foundation had launched a promotional campaign with MTV to convince young people that the elderly were stealing them blind with social security. Evidently, they have devised a bunch of adorable games and clever PSAs designed to make young people in this tough, competitive environment angry at old people for bankrupting the country with their "entitlements."

Posted by: drindl | June 8, 2009 2:35 PM | Report abuse

@DDAWD: from all appearances the real factors in this have been (1) gay characters in sitcoms and (2) personal acquaintance with gays. With so many "openly" out of the closet and familiar in the workplace, demonization of gays as "other" just doesn't work anymore. Looks like the Mattachines were right all along. Come out, come out wherever you are, and if anyone makes trouble then his career is over.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | June 8, 2009 2:31 PM | Report abuse

"All that matters are the economic numbers in the summer of 2010. If unemployment is falling and GDP is rising, even marginally so, Republicans will be stuck with their base and only their base. Voters understand that it was the Republicans who got us here. They will receive no sympathy. The question is "are the Democrats capable of getting us out of the mess?" If unemployment remains high, GDP is stagnant of falling and the stock market (read 401k statements) is flat, then who knows where voters will turn. But I wouldn't want to be a Democrat in a Republican seat."

I agree. Democrats probably have another year before they will be held accountable for the economy. The pundits (and the kids that play pundit on this site) seem to be the only ones who think that Obama should have turned the whole economy around by now.

Posted by: DDAWD | June 8, 2009 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Yes, please do give all your money to Palin!

Posted by: drindl | June 8, 2009 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Palin donors: there is a fast-track to donations, quicker even than online donations. Drop your donation in the toilet, dump a load on top of it, and flush it straight to SarahPAC. It'll do every bit as much good.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | June 8, 2009 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Right now everyone seems to remember that it was Republicans who had all the reins when the economy collapsed. They take all the blame and will continue to take it. And while the recession is far from over there are indications that the stimulus plan is working and, for what it's worth, the DJIA is up 35% since Obama took office.

He'll get the credit, Republicans will bear the blame. Works for me, works for GM, works for America.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | June 8, 2009 2:25 PM | Report abuse

LOL!!! I do not "brag about derailing discussions all the time" -- for instance, I haven't done that on this thread at all -- I have repeatedly tried to get the discussion BACK TO "Obama's Economic Vulnerability".

Posted by: JakeD | June 8, 2009 2:25 PM | Report abuse

"@DDAWD: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/18/AR2008071802561.html

Posted by: chrisfox8 "

Wow, that's pretty encouraging news. That's a huge turnaround for 15 years. It seems like social attitudes are changing faster than I could have imagined.

Posted by: DDAWD | June 8, 2009 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Yes, please "waste" your time (and money) on Sarah Palin:

https://secure.donationreport.com/donation.html?key=A39ENEF7IQFZ

If you prefer to contribute to SarahPAC by check, please mail to:

SarahPAC
P.O. Box 7711
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Paid for by SarahPAC
Not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee

Donations are political contributions and not deductible for income tax purposes.

Posted by: JakeD | June 8, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse

When people throw out silly words like troll, you can only conclude you are dealing with an unserious person.

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"Troll" has a precisely understood meaning in netiquette. Google it if you think it's from "Lord of the Rings" or something. A troll is someone who makes outrageous remarks in online discussions to derail them into responses to his statements, and who enjoys watching the fur fly and being at the center of attention.

All but a very few of those holding up the GOP end in these sections post as trolls. There is no controversy about JakeD being a troll, he brags about derailing discussions all the time. It's why he posts here, to get attention from strangers that he doesn't get in person.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | June 8, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse

@drindl: the GOP has this idea that with Palin's appeal to the Okies they can somehow turn that sow's ear into a silk purse. That in four years she can learn a few facts and come up with something better than "seeing Russia from an island in Alaska" to base her credentials on.

That's approximately like hoping to teach a horse to sing, or a dog to read books. Not gonna happen. Let them waste their time with Palin, it'll be several presidential cycles before they begin to wise up.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | June 8, 2009 2:19 PM | Report abuse

vbhoomes:

Agreed. Many first-time votes will simply stay at home or vote third party -- they don't have to believe me though -- even Obama has ADMITTED that he won't get re-elected if the economy hasn't improved by then.

Posted by: JakeD | June 8, 2009 2:18 PM | Report abuse

When people throw out silly words like troll, you can only conclude you are dealing with an unserious person.

Posted by: vbhoomes | June 8, 2009 2:17 PM | Report abuse

If the economy does not recover, OBAMA will be the "loser".

Posted by: JakeD | June 8, 2009 2:16 PM | Report abuse


"GOP Leader Working Behind Scenes To Get Palin Reinvited To Big Fundraiser

In another sign of the sway that Sarah Palin and her supporters in Palin Nation hold over the GOP, NRCC chief Pete Sessions is working behind the scenes to get Palin reinvited to the big GOP fundraiser tonight, GOP sources say.

It’s the story of the day that GOP leaders have been battling over who’s to blame for the fact that Palin was “snubbed” when she was disinvited from a speaking role at the big fundraiser, which is for the two Congressional committees, the NRCC and the NRSC. Politico laid the blame on NRCC chief Sessions, claiming he didn’t want her to upstage keynote speaker Newt Gingrich, prompting a round of bitter finger-pointing.

But GOP sources say that Sessions right now is working the phones to try to get Palin to attend, after all. The Hill, in what seemed like an answer to the Politico piece, reported that the real culprit behind Palin’s disinvitation as a speaker had originally been NRSC chief John Cornyn."

LOL -- the rubes really love this loser.

Posted by: drindl | June 8, 2009 2:14 PM | Report abuse

longbow651:

The National Industrial Recovery Act was, indeedm declared unconstitutional in Schechter Poultry Corp. v. United States, 295 U.S. 495 (1935). Chrysler dealers are going to use that to challenge Obama again.

Posted by: JakeD | June 8, 2009 2:11 PM | Report abuse

@longbow: Socialism brought the Soviet Union from a backward 16th century monarchy to a world power in a single generation. You can hoot and gibber all you like but to dismiss an achievement like that because of something repeated from Hannity or Limbaugh just shows you to be staggeringly ignorant.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | June 8, 2009 2:09 PM | Report abuse

vbhoomes:

I guess that BARACK OBAMA is a "Republican troll" too since he is "openly wish[ing] for calamity to befall America so people will vote on fear and anger instead of reason and logic" -- he also said "IF the economy doesn't recover ..." -- Logic is not their strong suit.

Posted by: JakeD | June 8, 2009 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Why should health care reform required vast amounts of new revenue? As the burden shifts from employers to government so will the costs. Economies of scale favor the public option. Medicare uses only 1% for overhead while allegedly efficient private sector coverage is 25% overhead. Don't see a lot of bureaucrats getting ten-figure incomes.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | June 8, 2009 2:05 PM | Report abuse

I feel loved! Socialism is still working well in Cuba. We will start paying them very soon.

Posted by: longbow651 | June 8, 2009 2:02 PM | Report abuse

That may not have been the fake JakeD re: Maine (Hillary DID win the February 10 caucus in that State: 15 to 9 ; )

Posted by: JakeD | June 8, 2009 2:02 PM | Report abuse

How loathsome and despicable the GOP trolls have become since their party of incompetents and crooks lost power. Since their party can't get back to power with ideas -- they don't have any -- they GOP supporters openly wish for calamity to befall America so people will vote on fear and anger instead of reason and logic.

Since there are no good reasons to vote Republican, certainly not self-interest, the GOP trolls hope something terrible happens so people will vote adrenal instead of cerebral. How completely rotten.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | June 8, 2009 2:00 PM | Report abuse

You can only get away with blaming republicans for so long, at some point the dems will be held accountable for the economy if it doesn't turn around soon. Good luck on trying get health care reform, you will need either to raise taxes on everyone or do a lot more of borrowing and printing. Note to BSIMON: I don't know where you get this stuff about me going to war over two journalists, its not what I said. I guess the only way you believe you can win an argument is to simply make up stuff.

Posted by: vbhoomes | June 8, 2009 1:58 PM | Report abuse

mibrooks27 writes
"What was originally, 2 million new jobs to be created by the Paulson-Geithner-Summers economic "stimulus" packages. Then it was 1.5 million. Then, one million. Now it's 600,000 and that number is sure to shrink."

Brooksie- the 600k jobs is over the next three months. The original 2 million is the goal for jobs that are either saved (i.e. not laid off) or created over the next 2 years. You're comparing apples n' oranges.

Posted by: bsimon1 | June 8, 2009 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Sorry Jake but you've been caught lying way too many times for anyone to believe you ever again.

"Nice try though"

Posted by: chrisfox8 | June 8, 2009 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Back on topic, even Obama admitted, in an interview aired February 3, 2009, the economy is not fixed in three years, he will be facing "a one-term proposition."

"I will be held accountable," the president said in the second part of an interview conducted Sunday and aired this morning on NBC's "Today." "If I don't have this done in three years, then there's going to be a one-term proposition."

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/feb/03/nation/na-obama-today3

Posted by: JakeD | June 8, 2009 1:56 PM | Report abuse

The closest that Palin came to scoring on Biden in their debate was correcting him on "drill baby drill." Most of the time she didn't even make sense.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | June 8, 2009 1:55 PM | Report abuse

All that matters are the economic numbers in the summer of 2010. If unemployment is falling and GDP is rising, even marginally so, Republicans will be stuck with their base and only their base. Voters understand that it was the Republicans who got us here. They will receive no sympathy. The question is "are the Democrats capable of getting us out of the mess?" If unemployment remains high, GDP is stagnant of falling and the stock market (read 401k statements) is flat, then who knows where voters will turn. But I wouldn't want to be a Democrat in a Republican seat.

Posted by: caribis | June 8, 2009 1:53 PM | Report abuse

nodebris:

Those were FAKE JakeD posts (back when WaPo did not require user registration), except for "I predict that Barack HUSSEIN Obama will not be inaugurated President on January 20, 2009." That one actually came true ; )

Posted by: JakeD | June 8, 2009 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: chrisfox8 | June 8, 2009 1:51 PM | Report abuse

I predict that Hillary will win Maine. - Jaked February 10, 2008

I predict she [Hillary] is going to win EVERY State (and Puerto Rico) remaining. - Jaked March 25, 2008

And I predict that Barack HUSSEIN Obama will not be inaugurated President on January 20, 2009. - Jaked September 11, 2008, et al.

I predict that a MAJORITY of voters in Ohio go with McCain-Palin ; ) - Jaked September 15, 2008 9:41 PM

even with all her problems, I predict: Sarah Palin gutted Joe Biden and wore him like a pantsuit. - Jaked October 2, 2008


Posted by: nodebris | June 8, 2009 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Oh look it's the "reverse racis" / "socialism never works" guy again.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | June 8, 2009 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Somebody correct me if I am wrong but wasn’t busy work (CCC camps and NRA “National Recovery Act”) established by the government back in 1933 by Roosevelt deemed unconstitutional by the Supreme Court? Something about making citizens work for wages so welfare was established instead. Is this the same type programs Barry O is suggesting?

Posted by: longbow651 | June 8, 2009 1:43 PM | Report abuse

@mibrooks: Microsoft is living on borrowed time. They don't know how to do creative work anymore. As operating systems move from the desktop to portable device, Microsoft is still trying to push an increasingly shoddy mobile version of Windows that falls further and further behind Linux-based ones. The reason is simple; the company is run by control freaks wedded to procedure and process and with idiot Indian programmers who try to shoehorn every tiny project into a Design Pattern they can't so the smallest piece of code without two dozen layers of abstraction.

Now with C# and exception-handling taking the place of simple control-flow logic, they've fallen too far to recover, while Android is ready to rock.

Netbooks coming out later this year will run Android, and the reduced version of Vista seeks to gain market by punitively cutting down on features until the buyer pays more for a license to unlock them .. you're stuck with the background image for example until you give them a credit card number. Yeah that'll make friends.

Creativity at Microsoft will get you fired. It's all about consistAncy and uniformity now. They're circling the drain.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | June 8, 2009 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Everyone wants to have cake and eat it too. Cutting taxes makes it harder to reduce deficits. Voodoo economics. Our situation is setting priorities. If we don't want to raise taxes on the middle class and want the services the government pays for, especially to turn the economy around, we may have to tolerate deficits. Reagan did. Even the Republicans don't claim to be for smaller government when it comes to defense spending. So they agree the question is what can we not afford to not spend on. Maybe we want to be protected from disease and not just enemies. Americans feel government spending may be necessary to stimulate the economy. What we want is to see is a return or prospect for eventual return on the investment.

If the Democrats falter now, people are less likely to return to corrupt Republicans so quickly as they are to new Democrats more along the lines of Dick Durbin and Pat Leahy. Or even Nader types. Maybe we'll even decide we don't care about someone's sexual issues and welcome back Eliot Spitzer to crack down on real sinners.

Posted by: birchbeer | June 8, 2009 1:36 PM | Report abuse

What's your source for that 75% having no problem? That seems a little unbelievable to me.

Posted by: DDAWD | June 8, 2009 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Obama has saved the economy. It is the media that is driving lazy stories like Obama's "vulnerability." The public then believes it...

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: parkerfl1 | June 8, 2009 1:34 PM | Report abuse

mibrooks: Anyone working in my industry knows the score on H1-Bs. Their work is almost universally lousy, most of them are poorly trained, and the only virtue they offer is that they can be had on the cheap. Many companies make no pretense whatever of trying to fill jobs with American workers, it's not uncommon to see ads specifying H1-B, saying no American workers' applications will be accepted. Labor certification is a stale joke.

A lot of them are programmers. Their code is amazingly low-quality as a rule, hastily-trained people with no problem-solving skills. I've made years of great money rewriting the steaming heaps of crap that companies got out of TCS in India and from H1-Bs over here, sleeping six to a room and calling it luxury.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | June 8, 2009 1:34 PM | Report abuse

"Obama has his own plans to rescind DADT and doesn't want the Court weighing in "helpfully" before he does."

If the case went to Court, the Obama administration would actually be defending DADT. I think he wanted to avoid having to do that.

Posted by: DDAWD | June 8, 2009 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Obama has his own plans to rescind DADT and doesn't want the Court weighing in "helpfully" before he does. With 75% of Americans seeing no problem with "openly" gay people (gawd when do we stop with that "openly" crap, this isn't 1950), the DADT law is predicated really on nothing more substantive than the squeamishness of a few southerners. High school kids shower with gay classmates, college shower rooms ditto, anyone who goes to a gym showers with gay man .. get over it, goons, we're here to stay and if you don't like it then get a length of rope and head to the stairwell.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | June 8, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Okay, here some information. The number of H1-B visa *exceeds* the number of unemployed U.S. technology sector workers - that's on the numbersUSA website, quoting the DOL.

According to the most recent CNN poll, more than 80% of U.S. voters *oppose* outsourcing and are convinced that they government could end the practice but chooses not to. For the Democrats, now do you spell "disaster"? You spell it by ignoring that, by continuing to fiddle with unemployment numbers (unemployment is at least 16.4% right now, not 9.4% and more and more people are becoming aware of Bush's gift to Obama of that piece of statistical dishonesty).

Posted by: mibrooks27 | June 8, 2009 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: JakeD | June 8, 2009 1:07 PM | Report abuse

I want to see a break down of the numbers. It could be that an overwhelming number of independents and Democrats approve of the economy while the Republicans overwhelmingly disapprove Obama.

Posted by: micheline101 | June 8, 2009 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Thank you, mibrooks27.

Posted by: JakeD | June 8, 2009 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Of course he's vulnerable on the economy. I'm not sure of he has gotten so far away from his root, his being in touch with the poor and working class people, that he doesn't understand any more, or if he has been listening to much to "expert" advisors, but his economic policies are a complete disaster. What was originally, 2 million new jobs to be created by the Paulson-Geithner-Summers economic "stimulus" packages. Then it was 1.5 million. Then, one million. Now it's 600,000 and that number is sure to shrink. At the same time, the expense of those "stimulus" packages has grown three times the original estimates, outsourcing of jobs has quadrupled, and we are up to our eyeballs in guest hi-tech workers (H1-B visa) from India and China and Russia. At the same time, IBM and HP, and Microsoft are laying off hundreds of thousands of their U.S. workers. All of this is occurring on Obama's watch. It's a disaster, a national disgrace, and it is threatening the very existence of this country. Of course Obama is vulnerable! HE IS TO BLAME! Where is the populist we elected? Hiding, evidently, in a posh office with a bunch of corrupt hi tech executives and Wall Street insiders. Oh, and ordinary voters, you know, the ones that actually elect people? They are fed up with Democrats in general. Sure the Republican's have been a disaster, especially under Bush, but amnesia is setting in and I expect the Democrats to experience the single largest losses in history in the 2010 elections if they don't start paying very close attention to the sort of populism advocated by John Edwards. End outsourcing by taxing the snot out of companies and executives doing it. End he H1-B and L-1 and every other guest worker visa program. Require colleges and universities to admit U.S. students first in critical programs like medicine, he hard sciences, and engineering. COngress needs to use it's Constitutional powers, too, to vacate patents, trademarks, and copyrights for companies (like Microsoft) that move offshore or even threaten to to that, too - destroy them and sell their patents to companies that will create jobs in the U.S.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | June 8, 2009 12:47 PM | Report abuse

It's been well documented that Obama's personality ratings outstrip is policy ratings. What's ^&*#ing infuriating is that there seems to be very little context to that. How did other Presidents do? Especially Clinton and Reagan and even Bush back when people liked him. (or for that matter, how were his policies rated when people didn't like him?)

You would think the news media would learn to be adults about this kind of stuff by now.

Posted by: DDAWD | June 8, 2009 12:39 PM | Report abuse

You bet we will --we think he's fine. Not perfect, but fine. But I would vote for almost any Dem to keep crazy repubicans out of power again.

Posted by: drindl | June 8, 2009 12:38 PM | Report abuse

In addition to the economic vulnerability, Obama's defending from a "rear" guard attack -- from left-wingers shocked at his refusal to prosecute "torture" to the Supreme Court refusing to hear a challenge to "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" -- I predict that a significant number of 2008 Obama voters won't vote for him in 2012.

Posted by: JakeD | June 8, 2009 12:17 PM | Report abuse

"Whether that perception matches up with reality is another whole post.)"

A simple NO will suffice.

Republicans never spend less than Dems. It's all propaganda.

Posted by: drindl | June 8, 2009 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Duh. Even Obama himself has admitted he won't be re-elected if the economy hasn't improved.

Posted by: JakeD | June 8, 2009 12:09 PM | Report abuse

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