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Tea Partiers: Where do they live?

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The map above -- courtesy of the absolutely terrific "Patchwork Nation" project led by Dante Chinni -- gives us yet another piece of the still-incomplete picture of the Tea Party movement: where they live.

The answer? All over but, not surprisingly, the largest concentrations of people who identify themselves as member of the Tea Party are in typically Republican strongholds -- north Florida, central Texas as well as the northern portions of the Mountain West.

"The biggest number of these folks do tend to come from wealthier GOP areas, as some polls have shown," emailed Chinni. "What may be more interesting is there's not as much interest from the counties we call 'Evangelical Epicenters,' meaning less interest in places where the religious right dominates."

(The map -- and the data that drives it -- were culled from actual tea party membership sites online.)

The "Patchwork Nation" map joins scads of polling done and columns written over the past month all of which aim to understand who the Tea Party movement really is and what they want with the political system.

Our shorthand conclusion? The Tea Party is a quasi-libertarian element of the Republican base whose discontent with the "way things are done" in Washington -- by both parties -- has risen to epic levels over the past year. The idea that the Tea Party movement will become -- or wants to become -- a full-fledged national party at anytime in the near future seems to us like it misses the mark. It grew out of an unhappiness with institutions and parties not out of a desire to create a new one.

Want to read more? A few recommendations: Jennifer Agiesta's roundup of polling on the tea party, Dan Balz's look at the similarities and differences between those who supported Ross Perot in the early 1990 and the current tea party crowd and, of course, Dave Weigel's new "Right Now" blog.

Have other things we should be reading to understand the Tea Party movement? The comment section awaits.

By Chris Cillizza  |  April 21, 2010; 3:07 PM ET
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@KayInMaine

Simply not so. If you've been paying attention to a greater part of the political sphere, there is actually a new outburst of conservatism that is embodied by the Tea Party, with a lot of members being entirely new to politics(Me too, as I've only become politically aware in the last few years; I'm 22.).

Conservatives in general are aiming to attempt kicking those big-government Statist loons out of office, regardless of the party with which they affiliate. That means you, McCain, Pelosi, Reid, Boxer, and many, many more! Oust career politicians, and advocate for term limits! Conservatism is the antidote to a swollen federal government that is overreaching into our lives!

Huzaaah!

Posted by: OfConservativeMind | April 25, 2010 2:44 AM | Report abuse

etshoney . you got it rite 100%. YOU TELL IT LIKE IT IS

Posted by: mahye1935 | April 22, 2010 9:34 PM | Report abuse

A vote for a republican this year is a vote in favor of George Bush's policies. The End.

Posted by: KayInMaine | April 22, 2010 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Re your other comments: I don't mean to imply that solutions will be easy and will happen in a hurry. It will be VERY painful for all of us. Charities will depend on us to help those who need it but we MUST STOP the entitlement mindset that has permeated our society. If 47% of the citizens pay NO INCOME TAXES WHERE ARE WE HEADED? When the Ministers in this country start saying that the Bible tells to pay more in taxes because God says so I want to scream! God wants us to GIVE FROM THE HEART and that is what we have done all our lives. I refuse to send money to DC so they can spend 50 cents of my dollar giving it to someone THEY determine needs it. ENOUGH! I am more than willing to take care of my neighbor. If we are willing to sacrifice for awhile we can change direction and arrive at our destination but not without a lot of pain. I'm willing and so are a lot of other citizens. The role of government in our Constitution was never meant to TAKE CARE of citizens. We just need freedom to get where we want to go. Trouble began with the "government" "HELPING PEOPLE". It has to stop.

Posted by: etshoney | April 22, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Re Ms Palin: No, I don't think she has enough international experience. That may come with time but we will wait and see. Ms. Palin has the ability to speak the truth about what is going on now. We will not allow this country to turn into a European democracy. If we wanted Europe we would move there. Where are the majority of inventions, technology, entrepreneurs and idea people come from? THE USA. You don't see people all over the world trying to get into Spain.

Posted by: etshoney | April 22, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Etshoney, Another question about the Tea Party: do you see Ms Palin as the standard bearer of the movement- a presidential nominee?

Posted by: alika | April 22, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

etshoney, I'm not particularly bound to the Obamachinery. I see the path our nation is on- as a BROAD generality- is unsustainable. Debt is certainly a symptom. I am not against taxes but don't like where a lot of our money goes. Without taxes our roads, mass transit, rails and, generally, our infrastructure is in terrible shape. Our educational system ranks low worldwide, our healthcare industry is no longer serving us very well. In the absence of real over-site our marketplace has turned predatory and short-term profit has turned us away from the interests of the generations to come. Funding our national systems may involve more than a strong military. Transitioning from what isn't working to what may work is an expensive proposition but what I read on the subject and my common sense suggests that it will be more expensive to do nothing. Is this a States-rights/responsibility issue- a Federal issue? That I am not sure about. I do recall that the tax cuts of the Reagan years were largely reversed by his administration and that the tax cuts during GWBush's administration resulted in higher state, local and property taxes (probably the most regressive tax we deal with) because maintaining our infrastructure, our schools and our road to a better future simply Costs Money. We see what the lack of financial liquidity does... What shall we cut? Where shall we dump the remains of what is currently decaying all around us? How do we reach for a more realistic future? I think inefficiency, dishonesty, conflict of interest and a world economy in which we must somehow fit are tough to "fix" without some sort of governance. Poverty and disease are Expensive for a nation- and I am not even suggesting welfare is an answer. So how does the Tea Party suggest we pull ourselves out of the hole with even less investment into a society seemingly unwilling and unable to change a little?

Posted by: alika | April 22, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Alika: Yes we have solutions....you probably won't like them as they are not what the Obama fans want is to CUT SPENDING across the board except for military pay. Yes, that means social security and medicare. My husband is retired and if you think these cuts will not effect me you are mistaken. We are not wealthy but middle class who have worked diligently put 2 daughters through college with NO GOVERNMENT help. Vacations, new cars and extras were not an option. We did it by saying NO to ourselves and expecting help from on one. We KNEW our daughters would need education to make it THEMSELVES. If you drop out of school and don't get a trade in today's world don't look to taxpayers to bail you out. TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF & PURSUE HAPPINESS, it is NOT A RIGHT! Give me the fed. budget & I'll balance it in a month! I want candidates that will do the same so if you can't find anything coherent in that message you just don't like the message!

Posted by: etshoney | April 22, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

The elements in the Tea Party that cause my eyebrows to rise are not the leanings toward Libertarian or Populist ideals, not the objections to Business-as-usual in the political landscape. It concerns me that the focus is on relatively non-issues and ignore real issues confronting our immediate future.It is the lack of credible examples of the "Radical Left Wing Agenda" this administration is pursuing. There is little to back up claims of a new socialism, there is a lockstep attachment to the dire warnings accorded to the watered down health-care initiative. aAs far as I can tell, Obama, marginally left of center, has in large measure pursued and accomplished much of the campaign promises he made- and under significant duress from another highly partisan political climate. His thinking frequently is quite conservative- in terms of upholding the Constitution. He was duly elected on the strength of his platform (that being how our system of democracy works) and is performing surprisingly well. His list of accomplishments is significant. I certainly have some disagreements with his policies but the deceit and half-truths used to try and bring him down are a terrible and nonproductive way to express disagreement. Our thinking is driven by special interests that don't give a damn about the interests of the citizenry but we spout their propaganda even as we can see the harm they are doing to us. The practice of civics is replaced by politics- to the detriment of us all. When I hear a coherent message based on more factual evidence coming from the Tea Party, when I hear a productive alternative as a platform, I will get on board. Practice what you preach!

Posted by: alika | April 22, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

RobbyS: The American Revolution was fought by .1% of the population? The population of the colonies in 1780 was about 2.8 million people. Are you saying that there were only 280 activists that started the American Revolution?

Posted by: Blarg | April 22, 2010 11:37 AM | Report abuse

OK folks:
1. Bush is out of office.
2. The problem is we have allowed the pols in both parties become "career" reps.
3. We are human beings who are busy with daily life and made the mistake of believing that these guys were honest and would not REALLY harm the country for their own benefit.
4. WE, the hard working trusting silent majority, have awakened and we don't like ANYBODY who spends money we no longer have.

If you think WE loved Bush you are sadly mistaken. He was the lesser of 2 evils since the politicians gave 2 candidates and we had to CHOOSE. Now, we are SICK AND TIRED of the blame game and are taking matters into our own hands and SUPPORTING candidates we believe have SOLUTIONS. The Democrat party is so far LEFT at this point that we have no choice but to go to the Republicans. NOT ALL REPUBLICANS WILL GET OUR SUPPORT AND WE ARE NOT STUPID ENOUGH TO TRY A 3RD PARTY. We made a mistake by not being more involved in prior years but the past is past and all we can do is remedy the situation!

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Posted by: itkonlyyou23 | April 22, 2010 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Blarg scoffs because the Tea Party comprises such a small minority. Truth is that about the same percentage of American colonials were the activists who made the American Revolution. But the quality matters. They were well-to-do, well educated and connected. So they worked a revolution. Furthermore, French historians tell us that the "mob" that attacked the Bastille on July 12, 1789, was not composed of "rabble" but of local businessmen and their apprentices. A word of warning to tyrants --even soft tyrants like Obama--don't get "nice"people mad.

Posted by: RobbyS | April 22, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Those making negative and nasty comments here forget that everyone is entitled to voice their approval or disapproval of our government and its leaders. They have a right to free assembly to voice their concerns. The smugness and incivility of those who ridicule and name call the people who gather at the "tea parties" is so unattractive as to negate the point they're trying to make. I know there was a gathering here last year. I didn't pay much attention to it at the time, but I don't remember hearing or reading about any kind of violence or incitement of any such thing. Both sides have their lunatics and if the comments here are any indication of a national trend, the right is lagging behind in the number of certifiable loons.

Posted by: Lilycat1 | April 22, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Again, what a bunch of hate mongers, amazing, if you disagree with Obama, you are some weirdo, but if you disagreed with Bush, you were a celebrity. Hate to tell you, but I have a college education, and I believe in the tea party, because we are not even allowed to say I disagree with with administration's policies. What a great sense of fair play, Bush was called Hitler, etc., and if you say Boo to Obama you are a racist. Egual time for egual comments.

Posted by: gerry11 | April 22, 2010 10:40 AM | Report abuse

Just as the political speeches of presidential candidates were not attended by ALL the voters of each party, so too are the tea party speeches not attended by all their respective followers. Many of us are not even members of the tea party group, but every day, more and more of us are listening to what they have to say. Every day, more and more of us are just saying, "Yeah, what HE said!" because we didn't think of it ourselves. That doesn't make us any less inclined to vote in that direction.

We may not consider ourselves tea party groupies, but we do know that what is going on in this country with the current administration and the current congress can't be allowed to continue. November will come, and you will see change.

Posted by: whisperonthewind | April 22, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

37th: "And the decline started in the spring of 2000 - your time table is wrong"

no, the nasdaq went down around 38% over a 1 1/2 year period. The DOW was down less than 3% in 2000, it recovered 5% in late 2001 and then was down 27% in the 2002-2003 time period. LOOK IT UP the averages are public information not some left wing conspiracy as you rant about.

"The stock market downturn of "2002" (some say "stock market crash" is the sharp drop in stock prices during "2002" in stock exchanges across the United States, Canada, Asia, and Europe. After recovering from lows reached following the September 11 attacks, indices slid steadily starting in ""March 2002"", with dramatic declines in July and September leading to lows ""last reached in 1997 and 1998"" Believe me I unfortunately know this timetable, where my portfolio was and precisely where I was in March 2002 when it ate my lunch.

As of September 24, "2002", the Dow Jones Industrial Average had lost 27% of the value it held on January 1, 2001: a total loss of ""5 trillion dollars""

I am not going to listen to you rewrite history when it is obvious that you do not know the difference b/w the DOW averages and the NASDAQ. Some of us actually do more than
blog and respond to your constant inane, uninformed posts and know a thing or two about the markets. You can throw all the tantrums you want about matters you obviously know
zero about but you might do a little basic
research before you rant here about matters beyond your pay grade.

apparently it is impossible for you to stay
on topic 37th.

Posted by: leichtman1 | April 22, 2010 9:02 AM | Report abuse

Really, 37th. You can be so infantile in your posts. This post makes you look not just wrong but stupid.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | April 22, 2010 6:59 AM | Report abuse


Fairlington Blade
Your name is has a sexual reference
Posted by: 37thand0street | April 21, 2010 11:54 PM |

Is 37th calling BB a homosexual? On what grounds, and why would that matter to anyone on this board?

This is a gross abuse of the rules of this board and 37th should be banned.


Posted by: margaretmeyers | April 22, 2010 6:48 AM | Report abuse

Interesting story but, honestly, it doesn't really matter where the Tea party people live. For a very good story about the context of the Tea party in the current political process and its likely evolution, you may want to read:

http://funks2.wordpress.com/2010/04/16/the-trip-to-no…-party-express

Posted by: FunkUniversity | April 22, 2010 2:33 AM | Report abuse

What have republicans done for the middle class?

We all know what they haven't done.

They haven't passed Social Security.
They haven't passed Medicare or Medicaid.
They haven't passed Health Care reform.

Instead they want to take these things away, bit by bit.

==

Why bother?  You know as well as I there's nothing he could answer with, even were he so inclined, which he isn't.  He'll just pick out one word and go off on his canned screed about race and free speech.  You're talking to a guy who's probably got an advanced case of amphetamine psychosis, sometimes there's only a few hours between his last post one day and his first post the next, and he posts for like 18 hours a day, jamming the conversation with repetition and brain-deadening boredom.  You may as well argue with a dog .. no matter how well-crafted your question, the most you can hope for is some barking.

And Cillizza says "forward me the offending posts."  Yeah big mystery there.

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Posted by: Noacoler | April 22, 2010 1:18 AM | Report abuse

37thand0street


You still haven't answered my question.

What have republicans done for the middle class?

We all know what they haven't done.

They haven't passed Social Security.
They haven't passed Medicare or Medicaid.
They haven't passed Health Care reform.

Instead they want to take these things away, bit by bit.

They are using the Tea party for this purpose.

Posted by: seemstome | April 22, 2010 12:40 AM | Report abuse

37thand0street


You still haven't answered my question.

What have republicans done for the middle class?

Posted by: seemstome | April 22, 2010 12:32 AM | Report abuse

BB, we all know that 37th has pretty much violated every rule on here. But 37th is a Republican, so he can do whatever the hell he wants. We all know Chris C is a sniveling, lying little bit*h.

Posted by: DDAWD | April 22, 2010 12:26 AM | Report abuse

37thand0street the over one trillion dollars of the Irag war cost is of no concern to you. How dare we give tax returns to people who paid no taxes. Helping Americans is never preferable to killing innocent people in other countries is it? What of your sensitive nature now? Hypocrite, you are worse than any racist. You have no concern for the common man, only yourself and maybe others like you. The wealthy in this country always used the poor to war on other countries but allowed them, the middle class, to share in the American dream but now they have taken that all away. Republicans have done nothing for the middle class in over thirty years.

Posted by: seemstome | April 22, 2010 12:20 AM | Report abuse

Wow - you guys are right about OBAMA'S TAX POLICY.


47% OF Americans are getting checks in the mail from Obama - so Obama is just mailing them money.


This is OBAMA'S TAX POLICY - BORROW MONEY FROM CHINA AND SEND IT TO THE INNER CITIES.


It took me a week to realize it - that 95% sign was right.


But Obama is BORROWING THE MONEY FROM CHINA AND JUST MAILING CHECKS TO THE INNER CITIES.

Yea, people sort of forgot about this because it is hard to believe - but it is true.

Obama is BORROWING MONEY FROM CHINA AND JUST SENDING CHECKS TO THE INNER CITIES.

OUCH.

WOW - THE OBAMA TAX POLICY.

.

Posted by: 37thand0street | April 22, 2010 12:12 AM | Report abuse

leichtman1


Haven't we spoke about this before


You can't blow up a bubble on Wall Street- and claim credit for the OVERINFLATED PRICES

And then try to blame someone else when the whole thing blows up - that is dumb

You have to blame the people who OVERINFLATED THE PRICES.


And the decline started in the spring of 2000 - your time table is wrong.

Stop it with the Wall Street stuff - you really have no idea what you are talking about.

.

Posted by: 37thand0street | April 22, 2010 12:09 AM | Report abuse

Wow - you guys are right about OBAMA'S TAX POLICY.

47% OF Americans are getting checks in the mail from Obama - so Obama is just mailing them money.

This is OBAMA'S TAX POLICY - BORROW MONEY FROM CHINA AND SEND IT TO THE INNER CITIES.

It took me a week to realize it - that 95% sign was right.

But Obama is BORROWING THE MONEY FROM CHINA AND JUST MAILING CHECKS TO THE INNER CITIES.

WOW - THE OBAMA TAX POLICY.

.

Posted by: 37thand0street | April 22, 2010 12:04 AM | Report abuse

as to my stock portfolio(and the country's) and 401K it was great b/w 1993 and 2001, it grew 15% annually and then collapsed in 2002, 1 1/2 years into the Bush administration. it is just starting to recover after 8 years of GOP malfeasance which you now pray that we
once again return to. Insanity is defined as doing the same thing over again and expecting a different result.

Posted by: leichtman1 | April 22, 2010 12:00 AM | Report abuse

leichtman1


The meltdown started in March 2000 - what are you talking about - and the Fed let the internet bubble unwind slowly.


Then they let the bubble escape into the mortgage market.


AND yes - Clinton had his appointees at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -


Clinton repealed the Glass Steagall Act


Clinton deregulated the derivatives markets

Yea - the mess was Clinton's doing - he sat at some golf course last weekend and apologized about it, in fact.


.

Posted by: 37thand0street | April 22, 2010 12:00 AM | Report abuse

When Clinton was in office we had balanced budgets and full employment. As soon as Bush became president we gave it all back to the rich in the form of tax cuts. I got mine too. I bought a pizza with it. The middle class under Bush practically disappeared. Wages shrank and outsourcing accelerated to twice that of the Clinton administration. No money was invested in infrastructure in this country, instead it was invested in the Iraq war. What have republicans done for the middle class?

Posted by: seemstome | April 21, 2010 11:59 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | April 21, 2010 11:59 PM | Report abuse

So, let's get this straight:

Obama has sent checks to 47% of American -


Obama is just mailing checks to the inner cities ????


With a trillion dollar deficit ???

Is this what is happening????


Obama is BORROWING MONEY FROM CHINA - AND JUST MAILING THE MONEY INTO THE INNER CITIES ????

Isn't that the OBAMA TAX POLICY ???


.

Posted by: 37thand0street | April 21, 2010 11:56 PM | Report abuse

Fairlington Blade


Your name is has a sexual reference


Also, how many people here use a sexual slur "teabagger"

Thanks for the comment.

I try to keep you honest, and have to insist you apply your rules equally.

.

Posted by: 37thand0street | April 21, 2010 11:54 PM | Report abuse

nice touch Bill Clinton gets blamed for the meldown in the DOW in 2002 2 years after he was out of office.
Did I mention that when he left office:
1. There was a $100 billion dollar budget surplus;
2. 25 million new jobs;
3. Lowest unemployment rate in a generation.
One more time Bill Clinton did not run this country b/w Jan 2001 and Jan 2008 when we
experienced the worst job growth, stagnat wages and -.01% return in the DOW. Hey if it makes you feel better to blame Clinton for Bush's malfeasance, then go for it. I would suggest you travel around the country and ask any working American if they would trade the Bill Clinton 1993-Jan 2001 economy for the Bush 2001-2008 economy and I doubt you could find even the most stalwart Bush apologist who would delusionally claim that. Good night. This is perhaps the most off topic and idiotic discussion you have perpetuated here today.

Posted by: leichtman1 | April 21, 2010 11:53 PM | Report abuse


leichtman1 and seemstome


I don't know too much about tax policy you say -

Well.........

So what you are saying is when the Obama democrats say they gave a tax cut to 95% of Americans -


What they really mean is this:


Of the 95%
48% of Americans got a tax cut -


AND the 47% of Americans who do not pay taxes - OBAMA SEND THEM A CHECK


IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING - OBAMA IS SENDING CHECKS TO THE INNER CITIES WHEN OUR BUDGET DEFICIT IS OVER ONE TRILLION DOLLARS ???

IS THAT WHAT YOU MEAN ????

Obama is sending checks to the inner cities when the budget deficit is over one trillion dollars??


Is that where the $800 Billion dollar stimulus money went ???

No wonder they can't find any jobs the $800 Billion Stimulus bill created.


.

Posted by: 37thand0street | April 21, 2010 11:51 PM | Report abuse

Hmm… looking into the "full rules"

1. You agree not to submit inappropriate content. Inappropriate content includes any content that:
-is obscene, pornographic, or sexually explicit
-degrades others on the basis of gender, race, class, ethnicity,
-national origin, religion, sexual orientation, disability, or other
classification
-is predatory, hateful, or intended to intimidate or harass

Exactly what about sexual innuendo is not a violation of the "full rules"?

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | April 21, 2010 11:51 PM | Report abuse

37thand0street now you're squawking, it seems to me that there is no limit to your misunderstanding of the wealth swap that has happened under the republicans over the last thirty years.
The middle class has practically disappeared and upward mobility is a thing of the past.
There is the lottery or the military. Some choice.

Posted by: seemstome | April 21, 2010 11:50 PM | Report abuse

leichtman1


So what you are saying is when the Obama democrats say they gave a tax cut to 95% of Americans -


What they really mean is this:


Of the 95% 48% of Americans got a tax cut -


AND the 47% of Americans who do not pay taxes - OBAMA SEND THEM A CHECK

IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING - OBAMA IS SENDING CHECKS TO THE INNER CITIES WHEN OUR BUDGET DEFICIT IS OVER ONE TRILLION DOLLARS ???

IS THAT WHAT YOU MEAN ????

.

Posted by: 37thand0street | April 21, 2010 11:47 PM | Report abuse

leichtman1


So what you are saying is when the Obama democrats say they gave a tax cut to 95% of Americans -


What they really mean is this:


Of the 95% 48% of Americans got a tax cut -


AND the 47% of Americans who do not pay taxes - OBAMA SEND THEM A CHECK

IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING - OBAMA IS SENDING CHECKS TO THE INNER CITIES WHEN OUR BUDGET DEFICIT IS OVER ONE TRILLION DOLLARS ???

IS THAT WHAT YOU MEAN ????

.

Posted by: 37thand0street | April 21, 2010 11:46 PM | Report abuse

leichtman1 and seemstome


Yea, and Bill Clinton also allowed an internet bubble to erupt and then burst - resulting in massive losses in the portfolios of the middle class.


Then - that set in motion the conditions for the mortgage bubble -


With was fueled by Clinton appointees in Freddie Mac and Fannie Mac.

Clinton also signed trade deals Nafta and with China which resulted in middle class jobs going overseas - and destroying every small town in middle America.


Yea, that is some strong economic policy that the democrats have had.


.

Posted by: 37thand0street | April 21, 2010 11:42 PM | Report abuse

37thand0street you seem lost. Are you a regular on this board?

Posted by: seemstome


This is so funny.
Why didn't I think of that,
but oh no,
past my bed time.

Posted by: shrink2 | April 21, 2010 11:40 PM | Report abuse

its called the Ronald Reagan earned income tax credit 37th

Posted by: leichtman1 | April 21, 2010 11:39 PM | Report abuse

Seemstome


Bill Clinton campaigned on a middle class tax cut - he went back on his word.


Sure sounds like Obama the Liar - who campaigned on being bipartisan and post-racial.


What part of Post-Racial involves carrying on a month-long racist attack campaign on people who are exercised their Freedom of Speech - in an attempt to intimidate them from speaking out.


That is a clear Civil Rights violation.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 21, 2010 11:37 PM | Report abuse

what did Bill Clinton do for the middle class?well how about 25 million jobs, a booming economy,the lowest unemployment rate in a generation, and a $100 billion dollar budget surplus. The tax increase you claim he went back on effected only the highest marginal rates which doesn't effect the middle class and did I mention the 25 million jobs and the lowest unemployment rate in a generation?

Posted by: leichtman1 | April 21, 2010 11:34 PM | Report abuse

You aren't too aware of the tax structure in this country. The tax structure under Clinton was more progressive than it is now.
The middle class had more money in its pocket under Clinton than at any time in the last thirty years. If the country had that economy now, well there would be no TEA party now would there? Or maybe there would be since the rich pay most of the income tax in this country which is as it should be. Dick Armey would still be trying to keep those tax cuts for the rich and parrots like you would still be squawking. What have the republicans done for the middle class that comes close to what Clinton did for it? Still waiting.

Posted by: seemstome | April 21, 2010 11:33 PM | Report abuse

leichtman1

Can I just ask one thing


If 47% of All Americans don't pay federal taxes -


How is it that 95% of all Americans got a tax decrease ????

How do you give a tax cut to someone who doesn't pay anything ???


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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 21, 2010 11:32 PM | Report abuse

dream on suzy, as much as we both want JD to win, and that is truly my desire, it aint going to happen. Az is an economically depressed state right now and they have
more impt concerns then the Senate primary.
I have not seen as much apathy about an upcoming primary ever in politics as I witnessed in Az.
JD was doing zero tv spots or billboards and had no visibility or much name id outside the
Tempe area; no one much knows or cares who JD is. Other polls showed him down by 18% but it
will certainly be closer than that and give a deserved scare to McCain.

seemstome mentioned that the whole sentiment behind the TeaParty was to preserve the Bush tax cuts. In reality all but the capital gains rate will be preserved by Obama and a couple of %s on the top marginal rates. All other Bush tax cuts are going to be preserved but please don't tell any TeaParty friends that dirty little secret that in 2009 federal taxes actually went down for 95% of Americans.

and ddawd the Rice U area is the prettiest and most progressive part of Houston where I grew up. Some here have pegged our city and state as nothing more than a bunch of secessionist nullification TeaBag Hillbillies when in fact we are a cosmopolitan community infilitrated by
the exburbers who still can't get over the fact that Tom DeLay and Enron are gone. that's my story and I'm stickin with it.

Posted by: leichtman1 | April 21, 2010 11:28 PM | Report abuse

seemstome


Why don't you ask Bill Clinton what he did for the middle class - given that he went back on his pledge for a middle class tax cut.

Sound familiar ???

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 21, 2010 11:25 PM | Report abuse

Broadway Joe this 37thand0street is it for real? I haven't heard it say anything that has any bearing on real life, have you?

Posted by: seemstome | April 21, 2010 11:24 PM | Report abuse

37thand0street you got no game, son. You can't defend your philosophy on legitimate grounds. What has your republican party done for the middle class? Take your time.

Posted by: seemstome | April 21, 2010 11:20 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe


Tonight we have spoken about all the white women who have rejected your sexual advances.


Instead of facing your inner irrational desire for interracial sex, you lash out at all white people.


Your daily references to white sheets and the KKK allow you to pretend that somehow your hatred is justified - even though the KKK died out in the 1920s - long before you were born.

You continue to justify your personal hate by bringing up historical references from generations ago - many of which you have never personally experienced.


Except the rejection from white women.


So how do we deal with your intense, pronounced and rabid hatred of white people ???


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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 21, 2010 11:19 PM | Report abuse

What have republicans done for the middle class over the last thirty years? They have been in power the majority of this time. Why has the middle class been losing and the rich gaining? 37thand0street

Posted by: seemstome | April 21, 2010 11:16 PM | Report abuse

seemstome


I think I have EXPOSED you for who you really are - a sterotyping, pre-judging racist.


Your comments here prove it all.

I think I have torn you apart tonight, chewed on you for a while, and then spitted you back through the internet onto your keyboard.


So you can take your liberal crap elsewhere.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 21, 2010 11:11 PM | Report abuse

37thand0street if you belonged to the TEA party chapter here, they would put you in charge of the portable toilets and such, you being such a sensitive individual and all. Only the real men get to be on the front line. Still you would get to do your part. Meow.

Posted by: seemstome | April 21, 2010 11:06 PM | Report abuse

DDAWD

for a second there, I thought you were about to say a nice thing about Pat Buchanan too.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 21, 2010 11:04 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe


I never hit the ground - I am an angel and I have wings - I just fly away.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 21, 2010 11:02 PM | Report abuse

George Will is pretty good. I like his snarky style. It's like watching a movie. You know it's all made up, but you're there for the storytelling, not to be informed. We are all aware of his global cooling debacle.

I actually put Krauthammer in that same category until like mid 2008. At least that's when I noticed it. He seemed to be especially doting of Bush. I think it affected him that the country had pretty much rejected his world view. He sort of became unhinged.

That's my theory, at least. It could just be that he would rather be a Michelle Malkin pundit than a David Brooks pundit.

Posted by: DDAWD | April 21, 2010 11:01 PM | Report abuse

Republicans are grinding themselves into chunks, then smaller pieces.

It is degenerate, an old machine falling apart.

That heat, then sparks, those flames may be mistaken for power.

The Republican survivors will take time, disposing of waste.

Posted by: shrink2 | April 21, 2010 11:01 PM | Report abuse

jhayne5 you got it all wrong. Palin is the best thing to happen to democrats since Clinton. We live to hear the next stupid comment pass her lips. She is like Biden on crack, no lie, son. She is the funniest and best thing about the TEA party and what is even better is you folks actually take her seriously. Oh, LORD.

Posted by: seemstome | April 21, 2010 10:59 PM | Report abuse

seemstome at 10:44 writes


We joke about race all the time here,


___________________________________


Again, clear evidence you are a racist

geesh


You need to go to sensitivity training course as well.

Racist -Rehab and sensitivity training for you.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 21, 2010 10:59 PM | Report abuse

seemstome


You are making comments which pre-judge the individuals in the Tea Party Movement.


That is sterotyping.


It is also prejudice - because you are PRE-JUDGING THOSE INDIVIDUALS.

That makes you a racist - we have these comments you made - clear evidence of racism.

Denial is a part of the process - but Racist-rehab would be good for you.


You should apologize to every individual who you pre-judged.

It is good you are already in Florida - it will be easier for you to drive around and apologize to each person who you pre-judged.

You can do it.


I support your recovery.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 21, 2010 10:55 PM | Report abuse

37thand0street you seem lost. Are you a regular on this board?

Posted by: seemstome | April 21, 2010 10:53 PM | Report abuse

I LOVE IT!

Dummocrats have something new to hate and get upset over! First it was Fox news, then Sarah Palin and now the Tea Party.

Let's think of some more things to p*ss off the dummocrats, it's fun!

Posted by: jhayne5 | April 21, 2010 10:52 PM | Report abuse

"McCain slammed the Tea Party movement, said young people are “turned off” by its “innate racism,” and attacked"

- McCain is a fool.

Posted by: gjconely | April 21, 2010 10:51 PM | Report abuse

37 and mooned/Zouk jump from the Empire State Building at exactly the same time. Assume Zouk weighs twice as much as 37. Who hits the ground first, Zouk or 37?

Answer tomorrow.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | April 21, 2010 10:50 PM | Report abuse

seemstome


Seems like you liberals can't keep your story straight - you are saying the "sole reason for the Tea Party is to keep the Bush tax cuts alive"

The other liberals say the sole reason is an elaborate attempt to hide their racism - that the ONLY reason is to march around and hold rallies talking about taxes and smaller government - all the while HIDING their hidden racism.


(it might be under the couch)

The liberals are confused - but they confused themselves -

Obama set out to commit FRAUD with the 2008 campaign - to fool the country with promises of bipartisanship and arriving at Centrist policies.


The liberals somehow took that as a mandate for far-left policies - a self-deception.

Anyway, Obama and the unions are off trying to purge the democratic party of all its moderates - because apparently the moderate democrats didn't get the memo on the far-left agenda either.


So Obama has basically destroyed the democratic party - either for a generation or for good.


At this point the most plausible result of all this chaos will be this:

The Conservative Republicans will come together to take over the Republican party.

The moderate Republicans will hold the center - and eventually form a party of the center.

The democrats, drifting further and further to the left, will face disasterous losses this year - and the unions will refuse to support candidates who want to be in the middle - the party will slowly die out, remaining only in the stoner havens of San Francisco and Boulder Co.

Obama will be deported to Indonesia, where he will live out his days with Cat Stevens, Rev. Wright and William Ayers.


All this chaos will be settled soon.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 21, 2010 10:48 PM | Report abuse

seemstome - glad to know you are a racist. I will have to try to find that ignore option.

Posted by: gjconely | April 21, 2010 10:47 PM | Report abuse

37thand0street forget about trying to get a life, instead get a brain. Florida is full of racists. We joke about race all the time here, Tea party members included. Why don't you take 13 steps and get over yourself, boy?
Politics is too much fun to be left to idiots like you, ha.

Posted by: seemstome | April 21, 2010 10:44 PM | Report abuse

"It grew out of an unhappiness with institutions and parties not out of a desire to create a new one." - Yes it has.

"Just like the militant Environmental nuts on the left they should be marginalized and ignored. Their ideas are preposterous and have no chance of ever becoming policy in the real world."
- More hate speech against "teabaggers". And as far as I can remember, the TEA "Policy" is that of what founded this country?

"I mean, they started worrying about the deficit at the most asinine time (during a recession) simply because Obama was in the White House"
- We started worrying even more when federal spending just kept going up, and they just kept living the luxury life while everything else dropped 20%+. We started worrying when the Federal Government (as a whole) decided that they wanted even more and more of our stuff for their little empire games.

Posted by: gjconely | April 21, 2010 10:43 PM | Report abuse

thanks, leichtman. That was more of my impression of Houston than anything. I only lived in Houston for a few months, so I didn't really get a good understanding of the city. Plus I was mainly in the Rice community which was especially liberal. (I know, I know, higher education is the domain of teabaggers, but apparently Rice U is the one exception)

I never really had a reason to go too far outside that area, so I've never been to the outskirts of Houston. But I do remember that huge Haliburton sign. I think that might be coloring my perceptions.

Although I think Bush just squeaked by in 2004 in that district.

Posted by: DDAWD | April 21, 2010 10:40 PM | Report abuse

Dick Armey is a huckster because he is serving up the same lie as in 94 only warmed over. He is giving the country leftovers and calling it a revolution. There is no doubt that the sole reason for the Tea party is to keep the Bush tax cuts alive. As for Obama, you should thank him for doing something for the middle class for a change. Republicans like Dick are always for the wealthy, it is the one thing that is constant.

Posted by: seemstome | April 21, 2010 10:36 PM | Report abuse

Krauthammer seems to suffer from the same malady as zouk. I think he's mentally ill.

Posted by: Noacoler | April 21, 2010 10:26 PM | Report abuse

it's called an education Ped. You ought to try one one day.

Posted by: Moonbat | April 21, 2010 10:35 PM | Report abuse

seemstome


I have to point out to you that your comment at 10:22 is making a sterotype - and you are pre-judgeing people who you do not know.

sorry.


But your comment is racist.

Apologize now.

Maybe there is a racist-rahab program you can go into - a 12 step program. Your apologies will have to be made personally to every person who you pre-judged. That might take a while because there are a great deal in the Tea Party Movement in Florida.

You can do it.


I support your recovery.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 21, 2010 10:34 PM | Report abuse

37, go argue with Meghan McCain about whether the baggers are bigoted fools. I won't debate whether water is wet or the sun is bright.

Out. The Spurs are on.
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"According to Meghan McCain, daughter of John McCain, the Tea Party is chock full of racists. Once again appearing on the View, McCain slammed the Tea Party movement, said young people are “turned off” by its “innate racism,” and attacked Sarah Palin, the washed up former vice presidential candidate who was appointed to lead the hijacked Tea Party movement by the Republicans and the corporate media. Palin has called for attacking Iran and has put her support behind Texas governor Rick Perry.

McCain criticized Tom Tancredo, who called for a literacy test for voters during the $500 admission Tea Party fest in Nashville last week."

http://www.infowars.com/mccains-daughter-tea-party-movement-is-racist/

Posted by: broadwayjoe | April 21, 2010 10:32 PM | Report abuse

Ped is more of a MoDo fan. All that feminine angst you know.

Of course she will tell you that she writes better than all of them. Except Sarah Palin certainly.

Posted by: Moonbat | April 21, 2010 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Dick Armey has done a great sales
job; he should be selected as huckster of the year.

Posted by: leichtman1 | April 21, 2010 9:48 PM


Sorry leichtman, obama already won that title last year and this year.

Posted by: SuzyCcup | April 21, 2010 10:28 PM | Report abuse

Brigade the real spending spree didn't start until Bush got in. Then all hell broke loose. The "surplus" went for the tax cuts for the wealthy and then there was that phony war. How can you type and slap your knee at the same time? You must be ambidextrous.

Posted by: seemstome | April 21, 2010 10:27 PM | Report abuse

You think in stereotypes, Brigade.

I corresponded with Cal Thomas for several months many years ago, in snail mail. I regard him as an honest principled man.

I have a very low opinion of Will because it offends me that someone who writes bas badly as he does would get paid for it. And his "magic of the marketplace" stuff should be enough for 90 days observation.

Krauthammer seems to suffer from the same malady as zouk. I think he's mentally ill.

Posted by: Noacoler | April 21, 2010 10:26 PM | Report abuse

Broadwayjoe


Who freed the slaves? THE REPUBLICAN PARTY

Who repealed the Civil Rights Act and enacted Jim Crow ? The democrats


HOW DID YOU GET FOOLED INTO TWISTING THAT ALL AROUND ????


Case closed.

.

Posted by: 37thand0street | April 21, 2010 10:25 PM | Report abuse

suzzy you were the same person who swore 4 weeks ago here that you were absolutely certain that you knew that JD is going to destroy McCain in the Az primary.

Posted by: leichtman1 | April 21, 2010 9:57 PM


leichtman, JD is doing pretty well in Arizona, picking up ground every week on McCain. See the link below. Did you notice how McCain is suddenly very anti-illegal? He even supports that controversial bill the Arizona governor will sign sometime this week. It's all because of pressure from JD.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections2/election_2010/election_2010_senate_elections/arizona/election_2010_arizona_republican_primary_for_senate

Posted by: SuzyCcup | April 21, 2010 10:23 PM | Report abuse

The rules of the Tea party in Florida are simple: We are peaceful warriors. Now grab your hate signs and lets go kick some liberal butt. Remember, no N word. Got it?

Posted by: seemstome | April 21, 2010 10:22 PM | Report abuse

Isn't neo ped excited. Finally someone to talk to. After the months on end of trolling. No more blow up dolls.

Maybe you can teach your new friend about holdbacks. I bet you could regale him with stories of showers, sandboxes, playgrounds and Kung pao cat.

Posted by: Moonbat | April 21, 2010 10:22 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe


your comment at 10:15 can you see the flaw in your thinking ???


If you don't like something, you have delusions that it doesn't exist.

It has to do with your relationships with white women - who always rejected you.

If you tell us about it, you can begin the healing process.

Meanwhile, Martin Luther King would be ashamed of your comments - what the democrats have done this year is shameful - and counter to his visions for America.

OH Martin Luther King was a REPUBLICAN.

Ouch.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 21, 2010 10:21 PM | Report abuse

Seestrome wrote,
"Once they got into power in 94, they shredded that contract and gave us unregulated spending"

And here all these people have been telling me we were running a surplus when Bill Clinton left office in 2001. I'm glad you straightened it out.

Noacoler wrote,
"Brigade: let me get this straight .. you think Will and Krauthammer are respectable journalists? I certainly don't."

Yes, I do. Buchanan, too. I'll even read Cal Thomas on a slow day. I used to love Bill Buckley and his exchanges with ... can't remember his foil right now, maybe it was Galbraith. I'll bet you loved Molly Ivens, rest her soul.

Posted by: Brigade | April 21, 2010 10:17 PM | Report abuse

The tea party here in Gainsville Florida has some elderly members who sometimes show up wearing sheets and have to be sent home again. The newer members like the fact that they don't have to worry about grass stains.

Posted by: seemstome | April 21, 2010 10:17 PM | Report abuse

34 + 1 = 35
35 + 1 = 36
36 + 1 = 0
37 + 1 = 38

Posted by: broadwayjoe | April 21, 2010 10:15 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe


Your list contains people who have called millions of people racist - without any evidence at all of their individual characters.

That is the very definition of sterotyping - and prejudice.


These people have DISGRACED themselves - their careers are tarnished - and they will never live down their racist comments.

Their obits will read - Affirmative Action Writers - Handed Opportunities - Showed Their Racism Against Whites.

I see you did not list Martin Luther King on your two lists - because you would have to list him next to me and Krauthamer.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 21, 2010 10:14 PM | Report abuse

"Now let's see a map where the most progressives are..."

Yeah wouldn't that be great?
It is called an e-l-e-c-t-i-o-n.
They voted, they created the map.

I'll tell you what. When you tea people win an election, then talk about where that was.

Do it, put your creepy sign painters on a real map, power is not yours. You have to win it, one district at a time.

Posted by: shrink2 | April 21, 2010 10:14 PM | Report abuse

Brigade is a knee slapper, he is slapping his knee right now.

Posted by: seemstome | April 21, 2010 10:11 PM | Report abuse

I don't see a racist behind every bush and I'm impatient with people who invoke it where it isn't demonstrably present. Interpretations that require embellishment or inference aren't worth pursuing, not when there is so much of the unambiguous real thing floating around.

Like among the teabaggers. And like among so very many Republicans.

I didn't think it was racist to support HRC, on the contrary, that included me until she got chummy with Karl Rove. Her husband on the other hand made that crack about "serving us drinks" and that's pretty shabby. I never paid attention to Ferraro, her 15 minutes ended long ago,

Posted by: Noacoler | April 21, 2010 10:10 PM | Report abuse

37, the list contained some of the greatest prize winning journalists of our generation. What are you talking about? As for the pro-bagger journalists, one of them is Pat Buchanan, whose "greatest" written work was his supremacist rant, "A Brief for Whitey." Not quite Pulitzer material.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | April 21, 2010 10:09 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe


Why do you hate white people so much - you are almost denying that the Tea Party Movement exists. Do you believe white people exist at all???


What else doesn't exist ???

Obviously your hatred of white people is rooted in your personal experiences with white women - who have all rejected your advances.

So please tell us - explain what happened.

Maybe if you get it all out, you can start the healing process.

Maybe if you start the healing process, you can walk down the sidewalk without feeling like all white people hate you.


Isn't that what Obama said ?


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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 21, 2010 10:09 PM | Report abuse

37thand0street, get a life. If anything, Obama is facing criticism from his base because he deserted them on health care and other issues. He still has accomplished what republicans have never seen fit to get around to and that is to pass health care reform.

Posted by: seemstome | April 21, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

Seestome wrote,
"Now you went and did it. Brigaye is called that because he is always polishing his helmet. He invented "do ask and I won't tell."

That's a howler. A real knee-slapper.

Noacoler wrote,
"The baggers didn't appear "after Bush" so much as "at the same time as Obama." And given the failure of consistency test on their claims and their constant racist sentiments, to claim that the jury is in any way out on their being racists strikes me as more than a little starry-eyed."

And I believe that you believe that. There seem to be any number of people here who see a racist behind every Bush (pun intended). And when Obama was fighting for the nomination, Bill and Hillary and Geraldine Ferraro were all racist.
But if you want to rag on Clarence Thomas, well that's okay.

Wow! Had to tone this down. Went straight to the moderator on the first try.

Posted by: Brigade | April 21, 2010 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin, Jesus , Sarah Palin is the spiritual leader of the TEA Party. Nobody could be more of a discredit to any political organization than her. Put Michele Bachmann with her and you have the makings of a good comedy act. Lucy and Ethel in the pie factory. Laverne and Shirley at the bowling alley. Bring on the clowns.

Posted by: seemstome | April 21, 2010 10:04 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe

I left last year because I decided to give Obama a chance to go back on his campaign pledges before criticizing him again.


I did that - I gave Obama a chance.

But Obama chose to turn far to the left - and commit FRAUD against his pledges to be bipartisan and support CENTRIST compromise policies.

How difficult is that for you?

NOW please tell us about the white women who rejected you.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 21, 2010 10:04 PM | Report abuse

l1, it really is a hoax. There is no tea party movement. It is pure media fiction. Rarely do more than 35 people show up at these rallies no matter how much free pub they get from Faux News. What I find amusing is that the media is usually careful NOT to interview the baggers because they never mention the cover issues we are told they care about, e.g., taxes, budget deficit, anti-government. But the baggers WILL go on and on about their hate for BHO. I am tired of reading about these loudmouthed bigoted mentals; it's the old Klan crowd, nothing more.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | April 21, 2010 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Brigade: let me get this straight .. you think Will and Krauthammer are respectable journalists? I certainly don't.

I think Will is a nutball who believes in thinking money and Krauthammer is a whack job so bent and so pro-Israel that he has no place in any American paper.

Will is also one of the worst writers since Ayn Rand.

Posted by: Noacoler | April 21, 2010 10:01 PM | Report abuse

suzzy you were the same person who swore 4 weeks ago here that you were absolutely certain that you knew that JD is going to destroy McCain in the Az primary. Well I gave it my all while in Az for JD but guess what your predictions about Obama are as good as about JD and jake's certain predictions.
good try though.

Posted by: leichtman1 | April 21, 2010 9:57 PM | Report abuse

Now let's see a map where the most progressives are ;-)

Posted by: wd1214 | April 21, 2010 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Now let's see a map where the most progressives are ;-)

Posted by: wd1214 | April 21, 2010 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Brigade


Broadwayjoe lists a bunch of journalists who have completely discredited themselves - and tries to make it appear as if those names make him right.

Sort of like putting someone who didnt pay their taxes in charge of the Treasury Dept.


Oh, sorry, Obama did that.


Sort of like putting someone who didn't pay their taxes in charge of the House Ways and Means Committee, which writes tax policy.

OH Pelosi dragged her feet by not getting Charlie Rangel out for how long ?

.

Posted by: 37thand0street | April 21, 2010 9:54 PM | Report abuse

A little history search for Dick Armey reveals he wrote the "contract with
America" with Newt Gingrich. Once they got into power in 94, they shredded that contract and gave us unregulated spending and deregulated financial institutions ending in this recession. Now Dick is at it again with the Tea Party and another contract he wants us to sign. Fool me once shame on you, shame on, you can't get fooled again.

Posted by: seemstome | April 21, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse

37, malis drove your legitimate namesake, the real 37, from the blogosphere a year ago when he did his insightful psychological analysis of that (alleged) lunatic's posts. Must I call malis back? Will that be necessary?

Posted by: broadwayjoe | April 21, 2010 9:52 PM | Report abuse

ddawd: houston like most large cities is
progressive, its the exburbs, greater houston area that includes Harris Cty and the larger
population that is conservative.its dobtful you can find more than a few throusand inner city houston Teabaggers until you get to the
Tom Delay part of town.

once again they have no organization, campaign funds or lucid leader so they are less serious as a group then Perrot who was self funded and fairly articulate was. When I was at the newseum last year at the same time as their march on DC, several of their members boasted to me of their million member protest which was 2 blocks long and reported to be no more than 60,000. They love hyperbole.

The only election they won was Scott Brown who will not get within a mile of their events. Its a giant hoax that folks like the WP has bought into. Dick Armey has done a great sales
job; he should be selected as huckster of the year.

Posted by: leichtman1 | April 21, 2010 9:48 PM | Report abuse

We live in the 'hearts' of America......and in CA too!

Posted by: imaginemore | April 21, 2010 9:47 PM | Report abuse

We live in the 'hearts' of America......and in CA too!

Posted by: imaginemore | April 21, 2010 9:47 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe wrote,
"Regarding the baggers...

On one side:
Eugene Robinson
Colbert King
Frank Rich
E.J. Dionne
Joan Walsh
Janeane Garofalo
Keith Olbermann

On the other:
Pat Buchanan
Drudge
Fix (?)"

You can't be serious. This is too easy. You start off with some respectable journalists, who are nonetheless biased, and end up with Garofalo (or Godawfulo as she's known in some circles) and nutjob Olbermann. How's that AirAmerica gig of Garofalo's working out? And I'm glad you posted, because I was wondering who the individual was who's been watching MSNBC.
Oh, and I suppose you think Limbaugh and Hannity are nuts, but Garofalo and Olberman are restrained.
Have you ever heard of Will or Krauthammer?
I didn't think so.

Posted by: Brigade | April 21, 2010 9:46 PM | Report abuse

We live in the 'hearts' of America......and in CA too!

Posted by: imaginemore | April 21, 2010 9:45 PM | Report abuse

We live in the 'hearts' of America......and in CA too!

Posted by: imaginemore | April 21, 2010 9:45 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe your posting at 9:23


Clearly, you can not be saying that the actions of three people tell you about the thousands and thousands of people at the rallies.


For instance, if there was one communist at an anti-Bush march, does that mean that everyone there is a communist???


It's called a logical flaw.


However, the prejudice - the PRE-JUDGING - that is CLEAR EVIDENCE OF THE RACISM OF COLBERT KING AND EUGENE ROBINSON.


And there are articles by these two which is CLEAR EVIDENCE OF THEIR RACISM.

Anyway - I would prefer to go back to what is in your heart - the hate you have towards white people.

Why did the white women reject you???


What did they say when they rejected you ???

Why do you feel it is so important for you to have interracial sex, that you would start to hate all white people over those rejections ???


You can open up to us.

You can.


.

Posted by: 37thand0street | April 21, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Now you went and did it. Brigaye is called that because he is always polishing his helmet. He invented "do ask and I won't tell."

Posted by: seemstome | April 21, 2010 9:42 PM | Report abuse

I haven't been to a teabagger rally either, and we don't need to be. There have been plenty if pictures in the news. Plenty of those pictures have shown signs with clear racist remarks.

Do you pull some epistemological dodge when you see that? Like a former and unlamented poster used to do in defense of creationism? Or do you flat-out claim that the pictures are doctored by the "liberal press" to "make the teabaggers look bad?"

Anyway, Bush not only spent like a drunken sailor, he put the two elective wars off-budget, as though they were force majeur, like hurricanes or something. Didn't see teabaggers then.

As for expaning government, the Patriot Act was passed under Bush, the clearest assault on liberty in my lifetime, possibly in our history, no teabaggers then.

The baggers didn't appear "after Bush" so much as "at the same time as Obama." And given the failure of consistency test on their claims and their constant racist sentiments, to claim that the jury is in any way out on their being racists strikes me as more than a little starry-eyed.

Posted by: Noacoler | April 21, 2010 9:40 PM | Report abuse

But an hispanic fellow at work was telling me that the 2010 census form contained a box for the "other" n-word, in addition to the usual "black" and "African-American" choices. Does anyone know if that's true

Posted by: Brigade | April 21, 2010 9:29 PM


Yeah, it's true. See below. Question #9.

http://2010.census.gov/2010census/how/interactive-form.php

Posted by: SuzyCcup | April 21, 2010 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Obama would have made the Tea party tax agenda much easier if he hadn't passed health care reform. I have to say that again.
Obama passed health care reform something the wealthy in this country have been fighting for over 50 years. Since Obama has passed health care reform, the perception of democrats has changed from incompetent do nothings to dangerous do anythings. At least it has in the eyes of the wealthy and they have instructed their minions in the Tea party to pull out all the stops short of civil war. That would discourage the independent voters you see. Fox news has no influence over independents, only republicans.

Posted by: seemstome | April 21, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Seemstone wrote,
"...have proved themselves to be an Army of dicks."

Well, I guess you'd know all about that.

Posted by: Brigade | April 21, 2010 9:35 PM | Report abuse

At the end of this, people in both parties will be happy to see Obama go.
2 Years 8 Months 29 Days - Obama will be sent back to Hyde Park... or Indonesia.

Posted by: 37thand0street | April 21, 2010 9:22 PM


Can we start collecting now for his going-away party? I'll be happy to chip in.

Posted by: SuzyCcup | April 21, 2010 9:34 PM | Report abuse

I suppose it makes sense to repeat the point about the False Charges of Racism.


These charges are NOT based on any specific actions or words of any individual.


These charges are based on PRE-JUDGING people - the very DEFINITION OF PREJUDICE.

So, WITHOUT evidence these charges are made.

HOWEVER - the charges themselves are EVIDENCE THAT THE PERSON MAKING THE CHARGE IS PREJUDICE AND RACIST.

See, they don't have any evidence, but the statement itself is evidence against the person making the charge.

Hence - we are back to Eugene Robinson - who has no evidence to support his charges.

However, Robinson's article ITSELF IS EVIDENCE THAT EUGENE ROBINSON IS A RACIST.

HHHMmmmm Pulitzer prize winning Racist - his own articles evidence of his own racism.

Only in the Obama HYPER-RACIAL WORLD.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 21, 2010 9:33 PM | Report abuse

37: The white sheets, the ones with the, er, eyeholes. Delicate or tumble dry?
_____________

Regarding the baggers...

On one side:
Eugene Robinson
Colbert King
Frank Rich
E.J. Dionne
Joan Walsh
Janeane Garofalo
Keith Olbermann

On the other:
Pat Buchanan
Drudge
Fix (?)
and...the ultimate bagger, the fake 37

Posted by: broadwayjoe | April 21, 2010 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Noacoler wrote,
"1) Bush was worse than Obama about a lot of the things they claim to be mad about and

(2) they carry signs expressing clear racist sentiments."

I've always been critical of the way Bush spent like a drunken sailor. He may have been a social conservative, but he was no economic conservative. And it really isn't a "conservative" adventure when one embarks on wars abroad.

I don't know about the racist signs. Haven't been to any rally and haven't seen any. But if we can get past the vitriol for a moment:

I filled out my census form several weeks ago and really didn't pay attention to anything that didn't pertain to me. But an hispanic fellow at work was telling me that the 2010 census form contained a box for the "other" n-word, in addition to the usual "black" and "African-American" choices. Does anyone know if that's true, or is it just an urban legend? It seemed far-fetched to me, and I thought he might be putting me on.
The rationale was that on the 2000 census, a significant number supposedly chose "other" instead of "black" or "African-American" and wrote in the "other" n-word.

Posted by: Brigade | April 21, 2010 9:29 PM | Report abuse

If enough republicans are elected in the midterms, they think they can make the Bush tax cuts permanent. This is what the Tea party is for. They are the republican form of ACORN. They should be called Tricorn because of the hats. They first came to prominence under the stewardship of Dick Armey and have proved themselves to be an Army of dicks.

Posted by: seemstome | April 21, 2010 9:26 PM | Report abuse

What a wonderful slice of liberalism we have here on the Fix:

the paranoiaD and fundie brainwashed and utterly battie drivl.

The angry, confused, anti- social communist pedant, neo ped.

The dim witted and slow ward of the state mollusk brained ddawd

the bigotted and clueless uneducated and classless Baghdad BJ.

I present the stooges.

Posted by: Moonbat | April 21, 2010 9:25 PM | Report abuse

"How can Robinson say that about any individual...???

Posted by: 37thand0street | April 21, 2010 9:10 PM"
___________

This is way too easy.

First he could talk to Congressman Cleaver about the baggers' spit on his face. Then he might ask Tea Bag President Dale Roberston for a look at his famous n-word sign. Then he might ask Tom Tancredo about his demand that our 44th President go "back to Kenya"? Then he might chat with sociopathic racist trolls who carpet-post triple spaced junk 24/7. That should confirm Gene's initial findings about the baggers being racist fools.

You asked so...

Posted by: broadwayjoe | April 21, 2010 9:23 PM | Report abuse

truth1


I think everyone in BOTH parties can agree that Obama has been doing some pretty stupid things in office.


So "intelligent" really doesn't apply to him.


Let's see him actually do something smart.

At the end of this, people in both parties will be happy to see Obama go.

2 Years 8 Months 29 Days - Obama will be sent back to Hyde Park... or Indonesia.


One of those.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 21, 2010 9:22 PM | Report abuse

(sign) another lowbrow conservative doing the lexical equivalent of an aboriginal taunting dance. Just what we needed.

Brigade: what DO you believe the teabaggers are? Intelligent scholars of American history with sincere and principled concerns about the direction of the country, who are just *acting* like filthy racists?

Posted by: Noacoler | April 21, 2010 9:20 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe


Let's get back to the root of your personal feelings for white women - why did they all reject your desires for interracial sex ???


Did any of them yell "gross" in your face???


With your constant obsessive writing of sexual slurs in this blog, this must be the root of your hate for white people.

Is that the only way white women can prove to you that they are not racist ???

You seem to be more than ready to talk about race - except when it comes to your sex life - so open up to us.

You make many many statement about race - and then you make sexual slurs all the time - so this is the logical conclusion to the analysis of your remarks.

Let's get to the bottom of this.

How many white women have rejected you ?


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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 21, 2010 9:17 PM | Report abuse

The Tea party is a group of individuals ostensibly assembled for a variety of reasons and funded by the wealthy for the purpose of making taxes lower for them. I tried to use clear language, ostensibly means apparently. Is that clear enough for you, Brigaye?

Posted by: seemstome | April 21, 2010 9:17 PM | Report abuse

TEABAGGERS discontent is that there is an intelligent Black man in the White House.

Posted by: truth1 | April 21, 2010 6:23 PM


57 states, corpse man, acted stupidly, special olympics, my muslim faith,....

Yes, he's absolutely brilliant!

Posted by: SuzyCcup | April 21, 2010 9:16 PM | Report abuse

BroadwayJoe wrote,
"Most agree with Pulitzer Prize winner Eugene Robinson that the baggers consist of "gun nuts, tax protesters, devotees of the gold standard, Sarah Palin, insurance company lobbyists, "constitutionalists" who have not read the Constitution . . ."

Nice post, but you left out a word. Between "most" and "agree", insert "morons" and you'll be dead on the money.

Posted by: Brigade | April 21, 2010 9:13 PM | Report abuse

When did I ever claim to be wildly successful? I'm not. No fleet of yachts nor townhouse on the federal triangle like zouk.

But my three houses are all paid for (OK, the one in USA almost but not quite, I could pay it off but of savings if I wanted but I like savings) and I have a good job.

I read the NYT article. I don't buy it. People as successful as that article claimed would be a little too genteel to spit on Congressmen and yell the N-word. Also, I'd think they could spell it.

I think the teabaggers are mostly Republicans so old they were Democrats before 1965, anmd yes I absolutely do believe they'r racists first and foremost, because

(1) Bush was worse than Obama about a lot of the things they claim to be mad about and

(2) they carry signs expressing clear racist sentiments.

Good enough for me. Not people I want to share a dinner table with, not people I want to turn my back on, people like I knew in South Carolina in the 60s, taking up space.

Posted by: Noacoler | April 21, 2010 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Taxes, we pay too much income tax, says the Tea party. Actually they do, but they are the wealthy which has been getting wealthier at the expense of the middle class in this country. Americans making less than the median income in this country pay just 3 percent of the total tax bill. The Teaparty tries to convince this group that they are paying too much. They want a flat tax which will make things more fair, but it will increase taxes for those below the median income 500 per cent. This is what the Tea party is really about. Lies and misinformation.

Posted by: seemstome | April 21, 2010 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Broadwayjoe


You are right the Eugene Robinson is wrong to characterize tea party members as racist.


Did Eugen Robinson interview them ?


How can Robinson say that about any individual without any action or words from that individual ???


Robinson is PRE-JUDGING these people - the very definition of PREJUDICE.

It is pretty simple that Eugene Robinson made racist statements this week in his article.

Thank you for pointing that out.


He might as well start burning crosses.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 21, 2010 9:10 PM | Report abuse


Time for Silas and the DaVinci Code.
I'll be serving tea.

See ya!

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | April 21, 2010 9:07 PM | Report abuse

Seemstome wrote,
"The Tea party is a front for the wealthy republicans who don't want to see the Bush tax cuts expire. That's it. That's all it is."

I'm getting confused! Now which is it: are they wealthy or are they an ignorant pack of low-life, racist bustouts?

Posted by: Brigade | April 21, 2010 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Suzy, did you think Obama could predict the future like the Nostradamus of legend?

Posted by: Noacoler | April 21, 2010 8:59 PM


Noacoler, obama can't predict anything. He should have kept his mouth shut.

Posted by: SuzyCcup | April 21, 2010 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, the heat map is fun. The Lake Michigan States makes sense to me. Was a bit surprised by the Houston area. Texas wasn't really hit by the recession. Although perhaps Houston is one of the more conservative Texas cities with a sizable population. (but with a lesbian mayor, go figure)

I'm not really sure what to make of it. But it's fun to look at.

Posted by: DDAWD | April 21, 2010 9:04 PM | Report abuse

The teaparty is for small government.
They want to see government smaller, much smaller, so small that it cannot interfere in corporate thievery or regulate the way banks conduct their business. The founding fathers were all for freedom of corporations according to the teaparty. They neglect to say that their was no such thing as a "legal person" at the time of the revolution. No matter they have on tricorn hats and are patriots, just ask them.

Posted by: seemstome | April 21, 2010 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Most agree with Pulitzer Prize winner Eugene Robinson that the baggers consist of "gun nuts, tax protesters, devotees of the gold standard, Sarah Palin, insurance company lobbyists, "constitutionalists" who have not read the Constitution, Medicare recipients who oppose government-run health care, crazy "birthers" who claim President Obama was born in another country, a contingent of outright racists (come on, people, let's be real) and a bunch of fat-cat professional politicians pretending to be "outsiders."

37, which are you in that list?

Posted by: broadwayjoe | April 21, 2010 9:00 PM | Report abuse

DDAWD wrote,
"Correction - no one is surprised thatthe teabaggers claim to be smart and rich. I might be more inclined to believe the teabaggers if every idiot who came on here didn't pretend to be such a wild success."

It was the New York Times, hardly a conservative rag, that made the claim. Personally, I don't know a single teabagger, so I can't co-sign one way or the other.

When you say idiots come on here and pretend to be wildly successful, are you including Noacoler in that group? Or are you personally acquainted with him and able to vouch.

I wouldn't call myself a wild success and never have. My home is paid for, and I have a good job. There are plenty of people in better shape than me---and many others who aren't. But then I'm not a teabagger.

Posted by: Brigade | April 21, 2010 8:59 PM | Report abuse

Wow, unemployment is over 8%? If it keeps going up, why, it could reach Reagan era levels! Suzy, did you think Obama could predict the future like the Nostradamus of legend?

Want a laugh? Read the blurb just above the comment box. "Inappropriate comments." I guess we know what THAT excludes ...

Posted by: Noacoler | April 21, 2010 8:59 PM | Report abuse

Apparently these guys represent the best and the brightest of the Republican party.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/galleries/teabonics_the_flawed_language_of_protest/teabonics_the_flawed_language_of_protest.html

But I never thought I'd see the day that conservatives co-opted tea and education. What's next? NPR and exercise???

Posted by: DDAWD | April 21, 2010 8:59 PM | Report abuse

DDawd, the heat map on Slate was awesome http://www.slate.com/id/2251029/ I watched the whole loop, and the thing I noticed was that Pennsylvania really is not engaged. Watch the loop and you can see activity in TX, so CA, NY, MA (Brown election), OH-IN-IL. It boils along in all those places -- but NOT in Pennsylvania.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | April 21, 2010 8:57 PM | Report abuse

@s2, Jonathan Capehart has something about "it" in his "Post Partisan" Post blog today so "it" is officially mainstream now.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | April 21, 2010 8:54 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe


I think we are getting to the bottom of your hate for white people.

So please tell us about your experience with white women.


Why did they all reject you? What did they say to you when they rejected you???


Did they say you were "gross"???

What happened ??? You just seem like you are seething with hate over all of this.

It is better to get it out.

.

Posted by: 37thand0street | April 21, 2010 8:54 PM | Report abuse

The Tea party is a front for the wealthy republicans who don't want to see the Bush tax cuts expire. That's it. That's all it is.

Posted by: seemstome | April 21, 2010 8:53 PM | Report abuse

...Obama is responsible for the current state of the economy.

Posted by: DDAWD | April 21, 2010 8:44 PM


For once you're right, Mr Dawd.

Posted by: SuzyCcup | April 21, 2010 8:52 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe


Obama is black? I didn't know. I thought he was a Muslim.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 21, 2010 8:51 PM | Report abuse

37, always wondered: what do you use to cut out the eyeholes in the white sheets? Scissors? An oversized hole puncher? How's the peripheral vision looking through the eyeholes? Can you drive wearing all of that?

Posted by: broadwayjoe | April 21, 2010 8:51 PM | Report abuse

bwj, thanks for the latest...yeah

I heard Michael Savage call Graham "the worst snake in the grass in world history" a couple months ago. Sure it is getting worse, the Great Republican Schism.

Their cheery dumpster fire would be great for making smores, but it is bad for global warming and who knows what is going up in that oily smoke.

Posted by: shrink2 | April 21, 2010 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Obama's plan is working.

Posted by: shrink2 | April 21, 2010 8:40 PM

Are you kidding??? Working at what. Have you checked the unemployment rate lately? Remember, obama said it wouldn't go over 8%.

obama's plan sucks!

Posted by: SuzyCcup | April 21, 2010 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Broadwayjoe


Tell us what happened with the white women you wanted to have sex with them.


Were you serious with them, or were you just trying to have sex and leave them ???

The question is important. Is your hate for white people DIRECTLY RELATED to your personal experiences concerning interracial sex???


It makes a great deal of sense - since your sexual slurs are here day and night.

So tell us the story - what happened.???


You do realize that the KKK used to control delegates at the democratic national conventions - and the democrats used to protect the KKK - and prevent them from getting arrested and thrown in jail.

Anyway - instead of ranting about rednecks and white people all day long - please let's get to the bottom of this - and tell us of your personal experience.

Do you hate country music too ??

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 21, 2010 8:44 PM | Report abuse

"But enough about your relatives. You must have seen the NY Times piece that reported the teabaggers were better educated and wealthier than the population at large. Or maybe you don't follow the news."

All the teabaggers on this site are apparently wild successes as well. You should ask zook for about his multiple PhDs in economics and his yachts and multiple womens. But yet seems to have trouble grasping the concept of jobs saved and thinks Obama is responsible for the current state of the economy.

Wasn't there once someone on here who claimed to be at the top of his Stanford Law class? And every other one claimed to be a doctor.

So no one is surprised that the teabaggers are so smart and rich and with multiple womens.

Correction - no one is surprised thatthe teabaggers claim to be smart and rich. I might be more inclined to believe the teabaggers if every idiot who came on here didn't pretend to be such a wild success.

Posted by: DDAWD | April 21, 2010 8:44 PM | Report abuse

thank goodness none live around me!
I heard a couple of teaers tried to do a protest last year in my area and only 20 showed up.
Good to know I live in a sane area, even if my congressman is one of the robotic back benchers who mimic the party line and never had an independent thought in his life.

Posted by: vwcat | April 21, 2010 8:42 PM | Report abuse

37, I'll leave a ticket for you at the Will Call desk the next time Janeane Garofalo plays Madison Square Garden. No prob. I hear she opens her act by greeting the baggers in the audience. One suggestion, 37: although there's no dress code at the Garden, wearing just a white sheet won't do. Just sayin'. All the best.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | April 21, 2010 8:41 PM | Report abuse

"The dataset on this map leaves a great deal to be desired."

More bipartisan agreement!
Obama's plan is working.

Posted by: shrink2 | April 21, 2010 8:40 PM | Report abuse

Clearly reading the comment section you can see where the real vitriol fumigation congregates!

Posted by: ajguru | April 21, 2010 8:39 PM | Report abuse

So when teabaggers go home after a day of carrying a sign around do they pat themselves on the back thinking they've advanced the discourse? Do they wake up in the morning boil up some tea and think, "work to be done, gotta get out there and show the rest of the world that they are being duped. Why don't they say what's really on their minds...."Obama is a black man and he can't possibly be president. The Birth certificate really has nothing to do with it!"

Posted by: numbers28 | April 21, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse

No, there's no normal-people counterpart to the Klan, er, I mean, "tea baggers." What's your point?

Posted by: broadwayjoe | April 21, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Some Noacoler rants:
"Who cares if you said something about me or not? That's totally tangential."

Oh, really? I guess you don't agree with the people here who say it's not nice to initiate the attacks.

"If I cared what angry snarky conservatives said about me I would have hemmorhaged months ago."

Don't look now, but you're definitely leaking oil.

"Zouk has his insults assigned to macro keys. Ped, stooge, stutter, acne ... think I care? Pshaw."

And that has what to do with me?
And yes, since you asked, you seem to care quite a bit---he's really getting under your skin.

"The only people whose opinions matter to me are the man I sleep with and the guy who signs my timecards."

Lucky them. So what are you doing here then?

Posted by: Brigade | April 21, 2010 8:33 PM | Report abuse

It's great to hear that Tea Party members are everywhere, but I'm not surprised. People all over the US want their country back. They're not interested in obama's socialist ride into the future.

All you libs who hate the Tea Party members are just upset because they don't agree with your own views. There's no liberal equivalent of the Tea Party and that really scares you. Same reasons you hate Palin.

Posted by: SuzyCcup | April 21, 2010 8:29 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe


There you go again - showing your hate for the Tea Party Movement.


Again you show your reasoning.

What happened in your personal experience to make you hate white people so much ?? And why are you so obsessed with sexual slurs ? Is it because you could not get white women to have interracial sex with you ???


Do you somehow feel that all white women should have interracial sex to prove they are not racist ???


Is that the only way a woman can prove they are not racist to you ???


I would have to say that is racist and sexist.

What is the problem here ???? Is that why you are always talking about sheets ???

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 21, 2010 8:24 PM | Report abuse

Same areas with higher concentrations of white supremacists?

Posted by: areyousaying | April 21, 2010 8:23 PM | Report abuse

Shrink2 wrote:
"How do you really feel about this extremely powerful black man and woman, the two of them having sex in the White House? Now that you are not kidding any more...no need to kid around...."

Uh, actually, I had never given it a thought until you brought it up; but you seem to be fixated. Maybe if I found them a bit more attractive, I'd be more interested. Oops, I suppose that sounds racist. Actually, I find many black women EXTREMELY attractive. Not so much the men, but then I don't find white men attractive either. I'm not like that.

But aren't you glad you asked.

Posted by: Brigade | April 21, 2010 8:21 PM | Report abuse

Chris writes:

The map -- and the data that drives it -- were culled from actual tea party membership sites online.


____________________________________


Clearly, these are the people in REMOTE areas looking to get involved in the Tea Party Movement through the computer - other people, in more populated areas are using other means -

The dataset on this map leaves a great deal to be desired

Posted by: 37thand0street | April 21, 2010 8:20 PM | Report abuse

s2, no, this is real recent and real specific--Google "William Gheen."

Posted by: broadwayjoe | April 21, 2010 8:19 PM | Report abuse

... and the same sort of snark, heavily tilted toward "you're stupid" kind of stuff.

Who cares if you said something about me or not? That's totally tangential. If I cared what angry snarky conservatives said about me I would have hemmorhaged months ago. Zouk has his insults assigned to macro keys. Ped, stooge, stutter, acne ... think I care? Pshaw. The only people whose opinions matter to me are the man I sleep with and the guy who signs my timecards.

And oh, "libs." Zouk loves his three-letter name-calling. The word is "liberals," if you please. If four more letters is too much for you ...

Are the feminizations and the diminutives right around the corner?

Anyway, to note that I respond to people I disagree with is hardly some profound insight. We come here to debate. This is a political blog, not a tampon commercial. "Me too" posts are even more boring than snark.

Posted by: Noacoler | April 21, 2010 8:19 PM | Report abuse

The Republican right turned against Graham months ago.

Posted by: shrink2 | April 21, 2010 8:15 PM | Report abuse

(((rolling)

At least it's not in the Lincoln Bedroom.
That place is TOO notorious, ya know !!!!!

BTW, JFK had more than ladies coming through the Marilyn Monroe door.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | April 21, 2010 8:12 PM | Report abuse

@Blade: HuffPo is reporting that the baggers recently turned on Graham BIG TIME.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | April 21, 2010 8:11 PM | Report abuse

I'll bite:

Brigade, I hate you.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | April 21, 2010 8:10 PM | Report abuse

"I was just kidding about the black woman, black man sex thing."

Could you say a little more about that?

How do you really feel about this extremely powerful black man and woman, the two of them having sex in the White House? Now that you are not kidding any more...no need to kid around....oh, but look, well our time is up for today, so lets look at this a littler more next week, shall we?
Ok good.

7 o'clock, yes the 28th, yes...thank you too, Good Night.

Posted by: shrink2 | April 21, 2010 8:09 PM | Report abuse

taxation without representation.

remember?

so of course, throw all the product in the bay (so much for capitalism supply and demand).

and then what happened?
everyone started making moonshine.
Why not?
No more tea. Might as well get loaded.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | April 21, 2010 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Noacoler,
I notice that, like most of the posters here, the comments that you are far most likely to respond to are the ones you claim to loathe.

And once again, you are about to blow a gasket. If you'll look carefully, each of my posts were in response to other posts. If someone posts something intelligent, they can expect an intelligent reponse; if not . . .

And if you look closer, you'll notice that not one of the posts this evening said anything at all about you. And yet here you are again, firing away, as if the other liberals were too timid to defend themselves and need you to stick up for them.

As far as insults and hate speech is concerned, the conservatives who post here most often may leave big tracks, but they are far outnumbered by libs like you.

Now did you have anything intelligent or worthwhile, or even witty, to say? Or is that just about it?

Posted by: Brigade | April 21, 2010 8:06 PM | Report abuse

I presume you are aware that Robinson won a Pulitzer last year, not to shabby as a political analyst goes and a rational commentator on all things
washington. how about you have you won a
Pulitzer lately?

http://www.bizjournals.com/washington/stories/2009/04/20/daily15.html

Posted by: leichtman1 | April 21, 2010 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Talkin' tea baggers?

Fix, meet Janeane Garofalo. Janeane, this is Fix. Hip him to the baggers' jive...
________

"In April 2009, Garofalo drew criticism when she denounced the Tea Party protests, saying:

“Let's be very honest about what this is about. This is not about bashing Democrats. It's not about taxes. They have no idea what the Boston Tea Party was about. They don't know their history at all. It's about hating a black man in the White House. That is racism straight up. This is nothing but a bunch of teabagging rednecks.”

In response to the controversy Garofalo has continued to criticize Tea Party protesters, and has been reported to open her shows with "If there's any tea baggers here, welcome, and as always, white power.""

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janeane_Garofalo

Posted by: broadwayjoe | April 21, 2010 8:02 PM | Report abuse

I'll skip the inside the Fixistas bits, other than to comment that I cosign Mark's previous comment to Brigade. Welcome. Ignore the usual brickbats, and make your points.

Very interesting map. The TP'ers do pose a threat and not just to Democrats. Ask John McCain and Charlie Crist. And possibly Lindsay Graham in a few years.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | April 21, 2010 8:01 PM | Report abuse

Daddy, what's a colored person?

Son, anyone who has a tattoo.

(((FOCLMAO)))))))))

the politically correct words are:
brothers and sisters. But, of course, you would need a brain to figure that one out.

!!!!!!

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | April 21, 2010 7:59 PM | Report abuse

BroadwayJoe,
Eugene Robinson? Colbert King? E.J. Dionne? How is that someone who can so readily sense bias on the right can't recognize it at all when it's on the left?

And Shrink2,
I was just kidding about the black woman, black man sex thing. But on a more serious note, where IS that intelligent black man you say has been living in the White House? I wish he'd come out of hiding. The only one I ever see around there is Obama.

Posted by: Brigade | April 21, 2010 7:54 PM | Report abuse

O gosh, Drindl, and just when someone was telling me you were "cogent and knowledgable", we're back to the Zouk thing again. And imagining that I've been posting here all day. Tell me truthfully now, is that your fantasy?

==

Didn't take you too long to become completely tiresome, now did it.

You show up one day ... New moniker, but clearly not new here. A conservative. And a frequent poster. Clearly not a long-time lurked who suddenly transitioned from not posting at all to posting all the time. So it's all but certain that you're a conservative we already know.

That's a short list.

And from the start, you're slamming the same posters that zouk slams, and in much the same terms, omitting only the moniker mangling, and, to your slight credit, with a few positions zouk's wouldn't be caught dead writing, like that we shouldn't have invaded Iraq.

Faint praise: you're a little smarter than Jake or the neologists like armpeg and leapin... this shortens the list.

I gave you the BotD for a while, but there really are so few possibilities left, and you *are* more interested in insults than topics, so even if you aren't the 150th zouk moniker, you might as well be.

Posted by: Noacoler | April 21, 2010 7:54 PM | Report abuse

Will Blanche Lincoln's spearheading derivative
reform, where cdo packages are traded in public exchanges and where there can no longer be trade swaps by non bank dealers will that help her re-election chances in Ark or just help with primary Ark. voters? Will it end too big to fail, a concept popular with Rs?

Posted by: leichtman1 | April 21, 2010 7:51 PM | Report abuse

And another thing, Mr. Fix: how do you devote an article to where the tea baggers live (who cares?) but ignore the recent University of Washington scientific poll indicating the baggers hold--SURPRISE!--white supremacist views.

""The tea party is not just about politics and size of government. The data [from the poll] suggests it may also be about race,"said Christopher Parker, a UW assistant professor of political science who directed the survey.

It found that those who are racially resentful, who believe the U.S. government has done too much to support blacks, are 36 percent more likely to support the tea party than those who are not.

....

Among whites who approved [of the baggers], 35 percent said they believe blacks to be hardworking, 45 percent said they believe them intelligent and 41 percent said they believe them trustworthy."

http://uwnews.washington.edu/ni/article.asp?articleID=56877

Posted by: broadwayjoe | April 21, 2010 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Colored?

Posted by: 37thand0street

Sorry. I was trying to use terms you might understand, the blacks, colored people, you know, people who look strange and act scary, not like us. Everybody not like us, that is what I meant.

Posted by: shrink2 | April 21, 2010 7:47 PM | Report abuse

broadway:
agree.
give the masses a soapbox to stand upon, or a bandwagon to jump upon....

and they will.

It is a great study in societal behavior.

Throw out the "cause" and they are all over it. Usually, when they have no idea of what they jumped on the soapbox or wagon for !!!!!!!!

(rolling)))

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | April 21, 2010 7:43 PM | Report abuse

but she is cogent and knowledgeable.

has been for a long time now.

where ya' been?

using a new pen-name?

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | April 21, 2010 7:39 PM | Report abuse

The Fix:

"Our shorthand conclusion? The Tea Party is a quasi-libertarian element of the Republican base....Want to read more?"
_________________

Er, not really.

Look pal, the baggers are not libertarians. Don't believe me? Then go share your "conclusion" with Congressman Cleaver, who is still wiping their spit off his face, or Congressman Frank, who is still in shock from their hateful verbal assaults.

Think Tea Bag President Dale Robertson is a "libertarian? Maybe so. I'll ask him after he puts down his misspelled n-word sign. When bagger Tom Tancredo calls for a return to Jim Crow literacy tests for voters and tells the President to go "back to Kenya," do you think he's trying to move us towards "liberty"?

Not to be impolite but, have you read your Post coworkers' views on the so-called bagger "movement"? Eugene Robinson? Colbert King? E.J. Dionne?

I respectfully submit the following take from Mr. Robinson on the baggers--that they are not "libertarians" but a band of sociopathic racist losers--is far more fact-based than your assessment. From Gene:

"The overhyped Tea Party phenomenon is more about symbolism and screaming than anything else. A "movement" that encompasses gun nuts, tax protesters, devotees of the gold standard, Sarah Palin, insurance company lobbyists, "constitutionalists" who have not read the Constitution, Medicare recipients who oppose government-run health care, crazy "birthers" who claim President Obama was born in another country, a contingent of outright racists (come on, people, let's be real) and a bunch of fat-cat professional politicians pretending to be "outsiders" is not a coherent intellectual or political force."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/19/AR2010041903937.html?nav=emailpage

Try reading the Post now and then, it's pretty good...

Posted by: broadwayjoe | April 21, 2010 7:38 PM | Report abuse

shrink2

Colored? how old are you? You must be older than Harry Reid.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 21, 2010 7:38 PM | Report abuse

prossers7

Were you ever a sophomore? Ok fine, but eyes front. Graduating from High School is a Big Deal, even so you shouldn't be mean to 10'th graders.

Posted by: shrink2 | April 21, 2010 7:37 PM | Report abuse


37th- you tell me what I said. Since you are keeping such great timing on everything.

I, personally, don't have time to revisit entries, looking for something to rant about. I stand by everything I say on the WaPO.

and you have a problem boy.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | April 21, 2010 7:36 PM | Report abuse

I said this earlier


Chris says:

"The map -- and the data that drives it -- were culled from actual tea party membership sites online"

So the map is NOT a result of polling or surveys


It is a result of PEOPLE WITH ONLINE PROFILES which identify themselves as tea party members - and who are list their hometowns on their online profiles.


So the numbers are way off - I think everyone agrees the numbers are way off.

Posted by: 37thand0street | April 21, 2010 7:35 PM | Report abuse

O gosh, Drindl, and just when someone was telling me you were "cogent and knowledgable", we're back to the Zouk thing again. And imagining that I've been posting here all day. Tell me truthfully now, is that your fantasy?

I was talking about Palin and Obama and how some of us are still trying to figure them out.

Recall that Ross Perot was a wildy successful businessman who seemed to make sense with some of what he said. Then midway through the 1992 campaign, he had a meltdown, dropped out of the race, and then got back in again.

He accused Bush-41 of sending thugs to disrupt his daughter's wedding. Just as people began to wonder whether there was any truth to the charge, he came up with some story about the Viet Cong hiring Black Panthers to whack him. Or maybe it was the Black Panthers hiring Viet Cong.

All of a sudden, in one cataclysmic moment of horror, people began to realize that the man who, for a time, was neck and neck with Bush-41 and Bill Clinton for the job of Commander in Chief was the sort of guy who might safeguard his precious bodily fluids by only drinking Vodka.

A fellow who believes 9/11 was an inside job can do but limited damage as governor of Minnesota, but what happens when someone like that aspires to higher office?
It's worrisome. I say lay it to them and see what they're made of.

Posted by: Brigade | April 21, 2010 7:35 PM | Report abuse

but most of them do 37th...

they are getting scared because no one is a WASP anymore. It's a mixed salad now. The people of this Patchwork Nation, is just that.....
a Patchwork.

"Look only in books, for it is a civilization Gone with the Wind".

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | April 21, 2010 7:32 PM | Report abuse

Silly 37 blocks from being too close to darkies, I am as white as a sheet and I love me some me.

White, brown, gray, ashen green (hepatic issues), red and blue (field sobriety performers), I love people of all colors.

Can you say that?

37, have you ever kissed a colored?
You don't have to answer that, but, if you haven't, do you think your mom would be horrified? Would you worry about special diseases?

Posted by: shrink2 | April 21, 2010 7:31 PM | Report abuse

TheBabeNemo


Your comment at 7:25 - what exactly are you talking about ?


If you refer to an actual issue - and then state your position, perhaps I can respond.

You realize the topic is the Obama attack machine making FALSE CHARGES OF RACISM AGAINST THE TEA PARTY MOVEMENT.

It has been stated that is an ATTEMPT AT INTIMIDATION - to prevent or discourage the tea party people from exercising their Freedom of Speech.


That is a violation of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

What say you ?

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 21, 2010 7:30 PM | Report abuse

This is so amusing, the progressives are so accustomed to their word being law and no-one challenging them that they feel that by under reporting the significance of the Tea Party Movement that people will believe them and ignore the movement. How sophmoric.

Posted by: prossers7 | April 21, 2010 7:29 PM | Report abuse

"Brigade


Take a look at drinl's post at 7:08

I was right - attack away.


.

Posted by: 37thand0street"


That's all you've got... venom. |

Posted by: drindl | April 21, 2010 7:28 PM | Report abuse

uh, is Saviour Saint Sarah even a lawyer?

anyone?


Posted by: TheBabeNemo | April 21, 2010 7:28 PM | Report abuse

drindl


Try to stop referring to white people as rednecks and racists who cling to their guns.


.

Posted by: 37thand0street | April 21, 2010 7:26 PM | Report abuse

37

you gotta get a life man! You are NET addicted. And you flame with your NET addiction. Columbine shooters were much like you. Invoking insults on Nazi sites. Gave them fuel for what they eventually succeeded at.

........Or hit yourself over the head with a baseball bat. (American President line).

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | April 21, 2010 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Obama pays for another bogus report... LOL

Posted by: prossers7 | April 21, 2010 7:24 PM | Report abuse

shrink2


You are being racist right now - you are showing your hatred toward white people.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 21, 2010 7:21 PM | Report abuse

I see BabeNemo is hammering on Sarah Palin. No thread would be complete without some of that.

But that sort of thing really doesn't bother me. Relative newcomers to the political arena must be vetted and tested if they aspire to higher office, even if the process sometimes gets ugly. That's how we learn what they're made of.

Personally, I like Sarah Palin; but I do want to know what she's got under the hood before "like" translates into wanting her hanging around the White House.

Obama is still scary to me, not because he's a liberal but because I still don't feel like I know him very well. Was he just using Jeremiah Wright and the other Chicago loons to further his career? Or does he really think like they do? Inquiring minds want to know.

Posted by: Brigade | April 21, 2010 7:21 PM | Report abuse

I've lived in many of those areas, whilst they may indeed be Republican or conservative, they certainly aren't wealthy.

We're looking at a middle-class movement here.

I note that whilst the Democrats are presently in the majority, the spread of the tea party movement may indicate that majority's fading away after November 2010, or changing drastically by moving more to the centre.

Incumbents face challenges not only from opposition candidates, but from within their own parties.

Tip O'Neill, late Speaker of the House, a Democrat from Massachusetts, observed that "All politics is local." A major portion of Mr. O'Neill's continued return to office was assuring his constituents were happy with him -- something which many members of the present Congress appear to have ignored.

Posted by: rmlwj1 | April 21, 2010 7:20 PM | Report abuse

those environmental nuts are the ones that tried saving entire populations of species after that alcoholic drunk captain ran the Valdez into the Alaskan coastline.

hey BTW, where was Saviour Saint Sarah then? Hmmm, was she even born?
After all, it was her land Exxon ruined.
For decades.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | April 21, 2010 7:20 PM | Report abuse

Brigade


Take a look at drinl's post at 7:08

I was right - attack away.


.

Posted by: 37thand0street | April 21, 2010 7:18 PM | Report abuse

- the blacks built the place -

and there you have it

Enslaved blacks helped build it, time passed, things happened and then, one day, Americans elected people who would have been slaves in the day the house was built, to rule the roost!

Posted by: shrink2 | April 21, 2010 7:16 PM | Report abuse

37 -- try referring to black people as 'people' rather than 'blacks.' Maybe you could then start thinking of them as people.

Posted by: drindl | April 21, 2010 7:14 PM | Report abuse

Not in my back yard!

TO: AndyR3 who wrote:
"…The Tea Party is a quasi-libertarian element of the Republican base" Just like the militant Environmental nuts on the left they should be marginalized and ignored. Their ideas are preposterous and have no chance of ever becoming policy…”

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

“Environmental nuts”? What do the freaks have against clean air and clean water?

As far as our “ideas” go, they are good enough to win us the White House, and even better for America and the American People.

The “ideas” of the GOP took America to the breaking point, but isn’t that what Republicans and Osama Bin Laden have in common, your undying desire to take down the USA, and especially the financial institutions? We all saw that Bush DID accomplish that, for his terrorist buddies.

You know what they say: The definition of insanity is, you keep doing the same things the same way and expect a different result.

Now that’s what your classic Republican thinks, that you can keep voting for the same politicians that waged 2 wars, allowed a terrorist attack on the United States, and borrowed and spent every penny they could find for the next 20 years, and you want to repeat that all over again.

Crazy.

Posted by: lindalovejones | April 21, 2010 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Brigade,zouk -- you going to spend your whole evening obsessing about me, after you have been doing it the whole day?

Get a life, guy. I mean, you are dangerous to your self.

Posted by: drindl | April 21, 2010 7:11 PM | Report abuse

shrink2

You make it seem like there have never been blacks in the White House - they have been there the whole time - the blacks built the place -


You make it seem like it is a crime that there is a black in the bedrooms too -


They have been there before - Im sure JFK had a few there too.

.

Posted by: 37thand0street | April 21, 2010 7:09 PM | Report abuse

Drindl says, "the media has a romance going with anything rightwing, that's all."

I've noticed that. Ole Eddie, Chris, David, Norah, Keith, Rachel ... almost everyone on MSNBC is out there pimping for the GOP.

And then, "You want your country back?
Try winning an election."

Don't look now, but I think that's what they have in mind.

And then there's gr8bigguy:
"...you want the Dems to pay for a tax for the deficits, huh?? What about the $11 trillion deficit Bush rang up?????"

Good point. You might as well go ahead and pay for that, too. Then I won't have to worry about it.

Posted by: Brigade | April 21, 2010 7:09 PM | Report abuse

37 said:

"
Brigade

Everyone here understands why you would attack drinl - everyone is fine with it.

Fire away -

Keep going - and don't stop.

Posted by: 37thand0street | April 21, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse "

No. Everyone is not okay with it. Not at all. she's articulate, cogent, and knowledgeable. characteristics you lack in spades. and as for inciting others to attack posters, well...maybe it's time to suggest to CC that you be banned. you, your ignorance, your hostility, and your right-wing arrogance, bigotry, and hatred.
Posted by: Ichristian

'Gee Brigade, you are just so kind!!!!
Drindl has a wonderful sense of humor.
Posted by: TheBabeNemo'

37 and zouk/moonbat/combrade zero/brigade seem to feel that attacking posters here is their life's purpose.

7 times today, in the same terms, by Moonbat [the morning alter ego] then Zero, the afternoon ego, and now the evening ego, 'Brigade.'

Naw, I ain't imagining it,it's you buddy who has the problem... and it's a big one.

Posted by: drindl | April 21, 2010 7:08 PM | Report abuse

Brigade, you got stuck in the sticky stuff.

Here is the problem:

"This family is going to be living in the White House for another term. The teabaggers know the Republicans have lost control of the levers of power."

Is this too much information?

Posted by: shrink2 | April 21, 2010 7:06 PM | Report abuse

I am pretty sure the teapartybaggers would have chosen a different Brand, had they the opportunity to do it over again. Now that its over, just something to think about.

Posted by: shrink2 | April 21, 2010 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Shrink2: "An intelligent black woman in the White House is having sex with that intelligent black man ..."

Too much information.

racerdoc opined: "they are usually overweight white people, in WAL-MART polyster clother(sic) that were made in China or in wacko getups from 100 years ago. They spell like third graders."

But enough about your relatives. You must have seen the NY Times piece that reported the teabaggers were better educated and wealthier than the population at large. Or maybe you don't follow the news.

lindalovejones said, "I'm glad there are no psychos in my area."

Don't look in the mirror.

Posted by: Brigade | April 21, 2010 7:00 PM | Report abuse

((rolling)))

Saint Saviour Sarah is too busy loading her gun and making sure everyone is "armed".

And I gotta tell ya folks, her voice is really gettin' to me. She whines and whines with that nasal sound when she gets all riled up (while looking for Jesus in her hand)!

(it's a grilled cheese sandwich...
no, it's jesus)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Next, she will claim stigmata.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | April 21, 2010 7:00 PM | Report abuse


hey chris------question....

did they include federal lands that belong to the Tribes of this Patchwork Nation???

Don't think the American Indian would like the statisticians to lump them in the total.....

Ya think?

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | April 21, 2010 6:54 PM | Report abuse

Sure looks like an overwhelming tidal wave of fed up citizenry. Or maybe not. Who funds the Tea-baggers? two rich, right-wing extremists. Who pushes their agenda loudly everyday? Fox news. ~75% of Teabaggers are exclusive Fox News watchers.

Wouldn't a "Liberal" press ignore such a small, insignificant lunatic fringe? Unless.... there is no "liberal" press, just the corporate news business looking for ratings.

What's the motivation here?

Posted by: thebobbob | April 21, 2010 6:54 PM | Report abuse

Someone said:

"
Brigade

Everyone here understands why you would attack drinl - everyone is fine with it.

Fire away -

Keep going - and don't stop.

Posted by: 37thand0street | April 21, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse "

No. Everyone is not okay with it. Not at all. she's articulate, cogent, and knowledgeable. characteristics you lack in spades. and as for inciting others to attack posters, well...maybe it's time to suggest to CC that you be banned. you, your ignorance, your hostility, and your right-wing arrogance, bigotry, and hatred.

Posted by: Ichristian | April 21, 2010 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Regarding the teabaggers, AndyR3 said, "their ideas are preposterous and have no chance of ever becoming policy in the real world."

And just what ideas are you talking about? It would be nice if you gave examples. I hope you don't mean the ones about bringing back slavery or distributing blankets infected with smallpox in the inner city.

DrainYou wrote, "They are the hardcore 20% Republican base who are embarrased to call themselves Republicans anymore."

Did you take your own poll? I hadn't heard that.

Slamming said, 'I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT THERE AREN'T MANY OF THESE wackos im(sic) the part of the US where I live."

And how's the weather in Leavenworth today? They still have P.C.s in the law library, huh?

Posted by: Brigade | April 21, 2010 6:51 PM | Report abuse


Gee Brigade, you are just so kind!!!!

Drindl has a wonderful sense of humor.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | April 21, 2010 6:50 PM | Report abuse

With your map, place a crosshair reticle over each dark green area.

Sarah Palin

Posted by: hoser3 | April 21, 2010 6:48 PM | Report abuse

"TEABAGGERS discontent is that there is an intelligent Black man in the White House."

It gets worse. An intelligent black woman in the White House is having sex with that intelligent black man who was elected and is the President of the United Sates of America.

The fruit of their loins, two black girls are being raised up in the White House, going to Sidwell no less.

It gets worse, this family is going to be living in the White House for another term.
The teabaggers know the Republicans have lost control of the levers of power.

Posted by: shrink2 | April 21, 2010 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Brigade


Everyone here understands why you would attack drinl - everyone is fine with it.


Fire away -


Keep going - and don't stop.

.

Posted by: 37thand0street | April 21, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse

lindalove:

at least you don't have Joe "I'm God" Arapio running for Governor......


heaven help us all.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | April 21, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse

I only have time to post in the evenings, so forgive me if I respond to comments from earlier in the thread---or day.

Someone asked earlier why I launched an unprovoked attack on Drindl yesterday evening. It wasn't much of an attack---just a teeny, weeny one. Having read some prior posts, I was operating under the assumption that Drindl has a good sense of humor.

If this is not the case, or if I'm playing too rough, just have me go stand in the corner.

Also, apologies to the late James Stockdale. I mangled his name terribly in that other post. It was just another brain fart. For anyone too young to remember, he was Hercule Poirot's running mate.

Posted by: Brigade | April 21, 2010 6:42 PM | Report abuse

truth1


If you take a look at Obama's job performance, intelligent is just NOT the word to use.


Something both Republicans and democrats can agree on.

If you don't agree now, you will in November.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 21, 2010 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Besides, shouldn't these teabaggers be in school or at work?

Reminds me of some places in Virginia, West Virginia, Kentucky and Tennessee that you DO NOT want to go or enter any of the "hills".
Can't tell human from alien in some parts.
And everyone plays a banjo.

(FOCLMAO)))

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | April 21, 2010 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps whats occurring now is no different than what happened in 2006 and 2008. Then, we saw the dems add a libertarian wing to their party, with anger over the governments affairs in foreign policy and social issues. These social libertarians stressed freedom on a social level. Now, we see a libertarian base being added to the Republican party over anger about the governments economic policy. These are economic libertarians. Simply put, libertarians have gotten pissed since 2005 and the ones who focus on social policy fall with the dems, and those focusing on economic policy fall with the gop.

Posted by: jperez119 | April 21, 2010 6:37 PM | Report abuse

The map IS garbage...just another hack trying to scrape in a dollar from a failing WaPo.

Posted by: joesmithdefend | April 21, 2010 6:35 PM | Report abuse

The map is garbage, unless the darkest areas have 9000 out of 10,000. Do the math 13% of the population Tea Party (polls) vs most areas being lighter (less than 9 of 10,000).

Posted by: jameschirico | April 21, 2010 6:24 PM | Report abuse

TEABAGGERS discontent is that there is an intelligent Black man in the White House. If they had discontent the way things are done they would have done so during the eight year Bush was president.

Posted by: truth1 | April 21, 2010 6:23 PM | Report abuse

....."The Tea Party is a quasi-libertarian element of the Republican base whose discontent with the "way things are done" in Washington -- by both parties -- has risen to epic levels over the past year. ....."

earth to chris and his dimples.....

Repulsives don't even know the meaning of the word quasi-libertarian. It's the right or the highway. No strange folk allowed.

The teabaggers are pi**ed off white people that can't stand that President Obama is a brother from Chicago. Ever see pictures of the protests they have. Where's the brothers and sisters???????

And BTW - the "Patchwork Nation" has bum frick egypt down here in AZ (no standing on corners for work any more fellas!)....
way off in the numbers.

You do realize that Arizona is one of the largest "Patchworks" of the American Militia and Aryan Nation, don'tcha??????

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | April 21, 2010 6:12 PM | Report abuse

These are people who have been marginalized already for their extremist or outright loony notions. Their notions of law, and political philosophy, and history, and political process are naïve and laughable. But they ARE allowed to vote. Which makes them not powerful, but dangerous.

You want to know who they are? They’re the same people the RNC paid to have bused to Florida during the Terry Schiavo obscenity.

Unlike the evangelicals, these folks still haven’t gotten wise to republican BS;
the evangelicals finally realized that all that “faith-based initiative” crap was just that—crap. What they got was Jack Abramoff and Ralph Reed, and an administration that laughed at them behind their collective back for being both so fanatic and so gullible. Now that they’ve been burnt, the evangelicals are not so ready to sign on to any R agenda. But the TBs haven’t figured it out yet.

They’re just the latest gullible “group” that sees itself as impotent and that will allow itself to be used by an extraordinarily cynical RNC, who of course will discard the TBs once they’ve served their purpose.

Posted by: Ichristian | April 21, 2010 6:09 PM | Report abuse

http://news.firedoglake.com/2010/04/21/brown-kaufman-introduce-the-safe-banking-act-of-2010/

The URL says it all. Well, not everything. The bill is to basically put a cap on bank size. Preventing to-big-to-fail banks from forming.

I like this because it's not as dependent on regulators. Regulators will definitely be tough today, but ten years in the future when the recession is a distant memory? Not so likely. That's the nice thing about these constitutive bills. They are constitutive. Banks will never get bigger than what the bill proscribes, whether the economy is running good or bad.

Posted by: DDAWD | April 21, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

"The anger and distrust of the congress's actions demonstrate that the American people can no longer be kept out of the information and policy proceedures this congress implement to get the majority rule into law."

My goodness, how confused these Tpers are. The Democrats won, WE ARE THE MAJORITY, and we are 'implement' our agenda now, the way, you know, people who won the election do.

Posted by: drindl | April 21, 2010 5:55 PM | Report abuse

Tea Patryers live in a constant state of inadequacy. It is that sense of gloom and doom that drive them to irrational behavior. Sadly - they create the monster that they claim to detest. ....


http://thefiresidepost.com/2010/04/21/sense-of-inadequacy-follows-us-all-the-days-of-our-lives/

Posted by: glclark4750 | April 21, 2010 5:54 PM | Report abuse

I'm glad to see there are no psychos in my area, which is why I don't understand Meg Whitman, who is running for Governer of California, talks the psycho freak language.

Speaking the language of the wacko won't get Meg Whitman elected in California.


Posted by: lindalovejones | April 21, 2010 5:48 PM | Report abuse

The problem with polls and maps is that they tend to portray the information that the inquring agency wants.
Democrat's really are now worried that they are in fact going to lose the congress in November. The anger and distrust of the congress's actions demonstrate that the American people can no longer be kept out of the information and policy proceedures this congress implement to get the majority rule into law. People do not count in congress. Its only loyalty to the institution of congress that gains the favor of the leaders. Arrogant; egregious actions in the face of the American people has caused the distrust and the movtive to remove these corrupt individuals playing the game of being representatives and senators of the people who elected them. There is change in the air for November and in 2012 for Senator's left from November and a president who has been anything but a leader.

Posted by: lhudson828 | April 21, 2010 5:47 PM | Report abuse

The numbers speak for themselves, and this raises the question: Why does the media pay any attention to this fringe element? Other than as a threat to public safety from their armed intimidation tactics, of course.

Posted by: lartfromabove | April 21, 2010 5:45 PM | Report abuse

The problem with polls and maps is that they tend to portray the information that the inquring agency wants.
Democrat's really are now worried that they are in fact going to lose the congress in November. The anger and distrust of the congress's actions demonstrate that the American people can no longer be kept out of the information and policy proceedures this congress implement to get the majority rule into law. People do not count in congress. Its only loyalty to the institution of congress that gains the favor of the leaders. Arrogant; egregious actions in the face of the American people has caused the distrust and the movtive to remove these corrupt individuals playing the game of being representatives and senators of the people who elected them. There is change in the air for November and in 2012 for Senator's left from November and a president who has been anything but a leader.

Posted by: lhudson828 | April 21, 2010 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Especially if the House is retaken this fall - as long as Obama doesn't destroy the economy - which he is trying to do.


I think the cocaine did something to Obama's brain - there are holes in his brain or something.


In his book, did Obama say he was smoking crack cocaine or snorting it ??? Im not sure.

Posted by: 37thand0street
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He was snorting it...that was Bush who was smoking it...same person who destroyed the economy---guess that's just the Rethuglican way...

Posted by: Beingsensible | April 21, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

"Everyone knows."

Emperor of all weasel-words

Posted by: Noacoler | April 21, 2010 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Interesting map. How many of them also speak in tongues, like Nana Palin? That's what we wanna know.

Posted by: Kelly14 | April 21, 2010 5:26 PM | Report abuse

'Apparently, there are only a few areas of the country where Tea Partiers make up more than .1% of the population. So why does the media care what this tiny minority thinks?'

Exactly. The media has a romance going with anything rightwing, that's all. They want to convince themselves that Rs are rising... when in reality this is just a small collection of misfits.

Good comment:


"The tea party is a made-for-television mini-series created by FOX NEWS to fill air space.

The word mini is used deliberately, to also describe the size of their collective brains.

Liberty?

Don't make me laugh.

You want your country back?'

Try winning an election.

Posted by: drindl | April 21, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

2 Years 8 Months and 29 Days to go

It's not that bad,


Especially if the House is retaken this fall - as long as Obama doesn't destroy the economy - which he is trying to do.

I think the cocaine did something to Obama's brain - there are holes in his brain or something.

In his book, did Obama say he was smoking crack cocaine or snorting it ??? Im not sure.

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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 21, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

The scale on the color-coding on this map doesn't line up with other polls. So I don't know what is happening here - but the dataset has to be wrong.

Chris writes:

(The map -- and the data that drives it -- were culled from actual tea party membership sites online.)

So, if someone goes on their computer, and writes profile ONLINE and identifies themselves ON THE COMPUTER as a tea party member - THOSE ARE THE ONLY PEOPLE COUNTED ???

Well, look at the Tea Party Rallies - tell me those are the kinds of people who are making online profiles.


This map can not be from actual polling of where the Tea Party people are - OR from Tea Party Supporters.


by the way, there is no actual tea party membership - no one is handing out membership cards - it is a self-identifier.


Anyway - it would be good to take the polls which identify 28% Tea party members - and the 48% who say they SUPPORT the tea party ideas - and break that down in a map

But this map is not that map.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 21, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

A tax cut. that's a good one. the liberals in congress are so ashamed of the 1.4 trillion bucks in spending and the looming biggest tax increase in history, that they won't even submit a budget this year, for fear of being run out of town on a rail.

Everyone knows that government medicine is going to cost a fortune, despite the phony numbers for every government program ever promised. eliminate fraud and abuse. OK Step one - fire Obimbo.

Everyone knows this spending splurge is going to cost us a fortune and that the rich can't possibly pay for it all and still have anything left over to hire anyone. and berry sure can't hire them all.

so for now, it is spend as if there is no tomorrow, and for most Libs there IS no tomorrow past November. then we can start to clean up this liberal mess.

Posted by: Comrade_Zero | April 21, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Election Day is not so far off. I imagine they will come out in force then.

Bye-bye.

"One term and done." -- 2012 slogan

Posted by: RealTexan1 | April 21, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

I for one am glad that the tea baggers are mostly not in my state - or in any state that is likely to GAIN ELECTORAL SEATS in Congress.

Posted by: WillSeattle | April 21, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

The Tea Party has support from 48% of the American People.

So, the small percentages in the color key has to be off.


I realize the democrats are polling the whole nation - to try and figure out who is so angry at Obama - and to figure out how to pick off just enough to win some elections.


Has it occurred to them just to tell Obama to stick to his campaign pledges and be bipartisan - and seek Centrist Policies???

I guess not.


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Posted by: 37thand0street | April 21, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Apparently, there are only a few areas of the country where Tea Partiers make up more than .1% of the population. So why does the media care what this tiny minority thinks?

Posted by: Blarg | April 21, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

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beacuse they are extremely entertaining.

I mean what a wonderful documentary about the AMERICAN CONDITION. They are usually overweight white people, in WAL-MART polyester clother that were made in CHINA or in wacko getups from 100 years ago. They spell like third graders. They all love their MEDICARE, DISABILITY, SS and unemployment while railing about imaginary takeovers of their liberties (my favorites are the GUVment coming to take their guns and the INTERMENT camps).

I mean you could spend a whole day walking down the street in NY or LA and not see so many loonies.

Posted by: racerdoc | April 21, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

In my experiences, I believe the Tea Party movement (while there are definitely some crazies among the ranks) came about at the end of the Bush Administration. They're primarily disaffected Republicans who felt like the Bush administration didn't really stand for what they believed anymore, nor did John McCain as a candidate. They tend to believe in less government, less spending, something the Republican party likes to say it's for, but never seems to actually walk the walk (with a few exceptions like Senator Coburn). They don't feel as though they are represented in Washington and are frustrated at what they feel is a lack of leadership in the GOP. There is no one person they can look to as a the leader of the party right now. Because of this lack of leadership, the vacuum is filled with the voices of people like Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh. I saw a story recently that trends show that people who watch cable news tend to watch the shows that fit their points of view-which, if true, shows you why Beck has considerable popularity among Tea Partiers. It's a very large and diverse country. Of course you'll find Tea Partiers everywhere. Did you think you wouldn't? I recently was in San Francisco, driving along the Marina where the houses are ridiculously expensive, and saw a yellow "Don't Tread on Me" flag hanging from a flagpole on one of these multi-million dollar houses in Speaker Pelosi's district. I didn't believe it myself at first, and had to do a double take, but there it was.

Posted by: BruinGirl2001 | April 21, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Funny how the tea partiers are allowed to spew hate speech and carry guns to rallies, while the rest of us are subject to THIS:


FED OPERATIVES CENSOR NET POLITICAL SPEECH

OF EXTRAJUDICIALLY 'TARGETED' CITIZENS: VET JOURNO

• Team Obama's tenuous grip on a "rogue bureaucracy?"

• N.Y. Times' comments moderation -- cover for ideological censorship?

See "comments" section:

http://nowpublic.com/world/vic-livingston-now-facebook-will-reader-comments-be-censored OR
http://NowPublic.com/scrivener

Posted by: scrivener50 | April 21, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

98 percent of Americans are getting a tax cut this year thanks to Democratic legislation that was opposed by every single Republican in Congress. And yet the Teabaggers (the Republican base) are still upset, of course, since this is somehow more evidence of "socialism-fascism-communism-naziism"....or something.


They are distraught that the richest 2 percent aren't getting their taxes cut as well. :-(

http://www.ctj.org/obamastaxcuts.php


So here's an idea! -- How about 100 percent of the Teabaggers (the Republican base) send their tax cut to the 2 percent richest Americans who didn't get one? Sure, Sarah Palin made over $12 million last year, but she didn't get a tax cut! So the Teabaggers can helpfully send her their tax cut so that she can accumulate more wealth.


And in Right Wing Trickle-Down fantasy land, that means more jobs for everyone. Yeay!


And here's a form that's been put together to make it easier for Teabaggers (the Republican base) to forward their hard earned tax cuts to the richest of the rich. It's a great opportunity for them to put their words into action.

http://learnandteachonline.com/givetotherich/give.htm


Posted by: DrainYou | April 21, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

why don't you show us where the flaming liberals live...
I'm sure the people would love to see that...

Posted by: DwightCollins | April 21, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Tea Party - A bunch of people off on tangents?
IF the tea parties band together, then they become another party just like any other and will eventually become corrupt. Make no mistake, if they become viable, they will be taken over by the ‘insiders’. And/or they will eventually become either a Monolithic or Parliamentary organization. If they become Monolithic, then who ever becomes the boss (or bosses) may alienate the rest of the ‘party’. If they become Parliamentary, then they will become a democracy and may alienate 49% of the ‘party’. Also, IF they retain their autonomy, then their power is disbursed and the 'powers' that be will not worry about them (and will want them to continue to exist because separately they are ineffective).

Posted by: mickey1956 | April 21, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

The tea party is a made-for-television mini-series created by FOX NEWS to fill air space.

The word mini is used deliberately, to also describe the size of their collective brains.

Liberty?

Don't make me laugh.

You want your country back?

Get in line behind the Apache, Creek, Crow, Iroquois, Blackfoot, Seminole, Algonquin, and Cherokee nations.

So the Tea Baggers are about INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY? Then I can assume they are for the legalization of pot, the freedom for women to control their own bodies? How about freedom for people to choose same sex relationships? And my GOD what they are about to do in Arizona, rounding up folks like and profiling and no fuss here. Oh I forgot, they are brown people.

If this were true, more people would join them. But of course this is just another lie from Conservatives. They want to dictate to us and tell us what we can put in our bodies and what we do in the bedroom. They want to mandate Christian prayer in public schools. They want to dictate what must be and what can't be taught in public schools. They want to assure that a large portion of federal spending is on elaborate weapons systems, but no money to care for vets.

Since their inception the Teaparty crowd (not a movement since they do have the numbers or clout) have been “haters not debaters”. In my opinion this is what the small portions of the republican party of “birthers, baggers and blowhards” have brought you. They are good at “Follow the Leader” of their dullard leaders, they listen to Beck, Hedgecock, Hannity, O’Reilly, Rush and Savage and the rest of the Blowhards. Let’s face it the Republicans had 8 years to deal with health care, immigration and financial oversight and governance and they failed. The cold hard fact is that the Tea Parties are a giant magnet for kooks, white supremacists and neo-Nazi hate groups because so many leaders in the movement, from Glenn Beck on down, regularly tell their audiences that provably untrue things are true.

Posted by: sherardg | April 21, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

"What may be more interesting is there's not as much interest from the counties we call 'Evangelical Epicenters,' meaning less interest in places where the religious right dominates."

This is what I have heard, but the media has not been reporting--all of the anger, hatred and vitriol coming out of the Tea Party's is alienating Christians. I know that there will be some who use teh Palin argument, but she is not a mainstream evangelical. Mainstream evangelicals would never advocate ovethrowing the government or the threats that have been plastered on TP signs.

Posted by: Prosperity2008 | April 21, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

I'm GLAD TO SEE THAT THERE AREN'T MANY OF THESE wackos im the part of the US where I live...but then people around here are pretty level headed!

Posted by: slamming
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Maybe..but you have the D bagging free lunchers and neocom statists.

Posted by: leapin | April 21, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

The tea party is a made-for-television mini-series created by FOX NEWS to fill air space.

The word mini is used deliberately, to also describe the size of their collective brains.

Liberty?

Don't make me laugh.

You want your country back?

Get in line behind the Apache, Creek, Crow, Iroquois, Blackfoot, Seminole, Algonquin, and Cherokee nations.

So the Tea Baggers are about INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY? Then I can assume they are for the legalization of pot, the freedom for women to control their own bodies? How about freedom for people to choose same sex relationships? And my GOD what they are about to do in Arizona, rounding up folks like and profiling and no fuss here. Oh I forgot, they are brown people.

If this were true, more people would join them. But of course this is just another lie from Conservatives. They want to dictate to us and tell us what we can put in our bodies and what we do in the bedroom. They want to mandate Christian prayer in public schools. They want to dictate what must be and what can't be taught in public schools. They want to assure that a large portion of federal spending is on elaborate weapons systems, but no money to care for vets.

Since their inception the Teaparty crowd (not a movement since they do have the numbers or clout) have been “haters not debaters”. In my opinion this is what the small portions of the republican party of “birthers, baggers and blowhards” have brought you. They are good at “Follow the Leader” of their dullard leaders, they listen to Beck, Hedgecock, Hannity, O’Reilly, Rush and Savage and the rest of the Blowhards. Let’s face it the Republicans had 8 years to deal with health care, immigration and financial oversight and governance and they failed. The cold hard fact is that the Tea Parties are a giant magnet for kooks, white supremacists and neo-Nazi hate groups because so many leaders in the movement, from Glenn Beck on down, regularly tell their audiences that provably untrue things are true.

Posted by: sherardg | April 21, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Yes DD, when trying to propagate change, during the initial stages, heat matters most, because the numbers just aren't there.
Thanks.

Posted by: shrink2 | April 21, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

shrink check out my slate link. It's not a perfect measure - using meetup.com to track tea parties, but it's still pretty interesting.

Posted by: DDAWD | April 21, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

I'm GLAD TO SEE THAT THERE AREN'T MANY OF THESE wackos im the part of the US where I live...but then people around here are pretty level headed!

Posted by: slamming | April 21, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/21/AR2010042102537.html?hpid=topnews

Senate committee approves derivatives oversight bill

Along party lines, except with Grassley voting with the Dems.

And bear in mind that this isn't the moderate Chris Dodd bill. It's the very aggressive Blanche Lincoln bill. That Grassley voted for it even in committee shows how potentially toxic it is to oppose financial reform. Grassley is up for election in a relatively liberal state. He's definitely not in any danger, but this might be something he doesn't want to screw with.

Posted by: DDAWD | April 21, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

This map sucks. When only a few people are involved in something, densities don't matter even if the absolute numbers do.

See that bright green County in S Oregon shown as having "up to 9 in 10,000", well it has a population of about 7000.

Posted by: shrink2 | April 21, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

I don't think the GOP is under the control of the extremists. I think the extremists are just mirroring the GOP. I mean, they started worrying about the deficit at the most asinine time (during a recession) simply because Obama was in the White House. They started complaining about their taxes when their taxes were at the lowest in years. They started getting concerned about Medicare at exactly the same time Republicans decided they didn't want to scrap it. Hell, I forget who it was, (Eugene Robinson, I think?), but someone was talking about how Obama should be spending more on NASA.

These people don't really have an ideological consistency. They are mainly just loud Republicans who want to be in a club.

Posted by: DDAWD | April 21, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

The Teabaggers = the 20% deadender Republican base. Period, end of story.


99.9% of these Teabagger cretins have voted Republican in the past and will continue to do so in the future. These people never have and never will support Democrats. The only concern these people have is with getting rid of the Dems and the black guy in the White House. They are not some sort of huge grass roots up-rising of "ordinary Americans with real concerns", they are the hardcore 20% Republican base who are to embarrassed to call themselves "Republicans" anymore.


The Teabaggers (The Republican base) didn't have any of these "concerns" until the Dems came into power and Pres Obama was elected. In fact they cheerleaded while Bush doubled our national debt in only eight years (a record), gave unfunded tax cuts to Billionaires (twice), started a war for no reason (Iraq) that has cost us a Trillion dollars and counting, committed war crimes (torture etc), spied on Americans illegally and outted a CIA agent for political reasons.


Posted by: DrainYou | April 21, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

"So why does the media care what this tiny minority thinks?"

Because, despite their infinitessimal numbers, they are dictating GOP policy in Washington; and, because of the dearth of other interested people, they have a huge influence on the GOP primaries.

We used to wonder why evangelicals held such sway over the GOP, and the answer was basically the same; though there are far more evangelicals than TPers. So you have to ask; why does the GOP let itself fall under control of small numbers of extremists?

Posted by: bsimon1 | April 21, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

http://www.slate.com/id/2251029/

A much cooler map based on the website meetup.com on where the most tea party activity is taking place. The big hotspots are in New York, Southern Cali, the Houston area of Texas, the lake Michigan states, (OH, IN, IL) That whole manufacturing belt, actually. And a presence in Florida.

It's an interactive time lapse heatmap.

Posted by: DDAWD | April 21, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Breaking News: Teabaggers are mostly Old, White Republicans.

File that one under "No Shizit, Sherlock."

Posted by: dadanarchist | April 21, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Now I know where I don't want to live for the forseeable future. Not that western Nebraska was high on my list to begin with.

But in all seriousness, I hope that the Democrats (and Republicans) in DC take this map to heart and realize that as CC says "The Tea Party is a quasi-libertarian element of the Republican base" Just like the militant Environmental nuts on the left they should be marginalized and ignored. Their ideas are preposterous and have no chance of ever becoming policy in the real world.

Posted by: AndyR3 | April 21, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Apparently, there are only a few areas of the country where Tea Partiers make up more than .1% of the population. So why does the media care what this tiny minority thinks?

Posted by: Blarg | April 21, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

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