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Is the "tea party" just a wing of the Republican party? AP Photo

The scads of media coverage about the burgeoning "tea party" effort has focused heavily on the idea that those who identify themselves as part of the movement are political free agents -- dismissive of both parties and Washington in general.

New data out of Gallup suggests that premise isn't right, as nearly seven in 10 tea party supporters describe themselves as "conservative Republicans."

All told, nearly 80 percent of tea party supporters describe themselves as Republicans, while 15 percent say they are Democrats and just six percent are, in their own minds, "pure independents."

The numbers between tea party supporters and conservative Republicans also track closely on other measures, including the image ratings of President Obama. Fifteen percent of tea party backers have a favorable view of the president, while 11 percent of conservative Republicans say the same. Those numbers are strikingly dissimilar from the poll of all Americans -- 53 percent of whom view Obama favorably.

Asked whether they would support a generic Republican or a generic Democrat for Congress this fall, 80 percent of tea party supporters chose the GOP candidate, while 15 percent opted for the Democrat. While the loyalty of tea party supporters to Republican candidates is lower than that of self-identified "conservative Republicans" -- 95 percent of whom back the GOP candidate in the generic ballot -- it is still heavily weighted toward candidates of a certain ideological proclivity.

"Their similar ideological makeup and views suggest that the Tea Party movement is more a rebranding of core Republicanism than a new or distinct entity on the American political scene," Gallup Poll director Frank Newport wrote in an analysis of the results, which were culled from national surveys conducted in March, May and June.

The Gallup findings generally affirm findings by Resurgent Republic, a conglomerate of GOP polling firms, in five states over the past weeks.

"This is a group that is organically more Republican," said GOP pollster Glen Bolger, who conducted several focus groups of tea party backers. "They have turned the page on Obama."

The Gallup data, when combined with the Resurgent Republic findings, suggests that the constant comparisons between today's tea party voter and the supporters of Ross Perot in the early 1990s are simply wrong.

The Post's Dan Balz debunked that comparison several months ago. Wrote Balz:

"The Perot voters were a disparate group, ideologically diverse, with generally secular views. The tea party movement is far more cohesive. If anything, it is simply an adjunct of the conservative wing of the Republican Party, even if many of its supporters say they hold no particular allegiance for the GOP and are critical of party leadership."

That final point is the most important one when it comes to assessing the tea party's influence in the midterm elections. As victories by Rand Paul in Kentucky and Sharron Angle in Nevada show, the tea party crowd doesn't take its marching orders from the national Republican leadership.

But, in the fall campaign, when faced with a choice not between two Republicans but between a Republican and a Democrat, the Gallup data seem to suggest that the tea party crowd will opt for the GOP candidates in large numbers.

Why? Because they are, at heart, Republicans -- only by a different name at the moment. Or, as, Newport puts it: "Republican leaders who worry about the Tea Party's impact on their races may in fact (and more simply) be defined as largely worrying about their party's core base."

By Chris Cillizza  |  July 6, 2010; 3:24 PM ET
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Of course it is. Why else would they start when Obama got elected? Why else would they ignore the massive government expansion under Bush? Deficit issues under Bush?

They can't come up with a single reason they stayed quiet under Bush other than they are mad that a Democrat is in office

They are an utter joke

Posted by: Bious | July 8, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

When the first T-Party started in our area the repubs were out in full force. They passed out free coffee and dounuts and half priced ice cream if you was willing to carry anti-Obama signs. Since that time some people got smarter and said look if the Bush Adm. had not been so corrupt Obama would not even be in office. They are now looking more at independants and new faces regardless of party if they are willing to look out for the voters and not corporations or foreign countries.

Posted by: SWAMPYPD | July 7, 2010 11:19 PM | Report abuse

When the first T-Party started in our area the repubs were out in full force. They passed out free coffee and dounuts and half priced ice cream if you was willing to carry anti-Obama signs. Since that time some people got smarter and said look if the Bush Adm. had not been so corrupt Obama would not even be in office. They are now looking more at independants and new faces regardless of party if they are willing to look out for the voters and not corporations or foreign countries.

Posted by: SWAMPYPD | July 7, 2010 11:18 PM | Report abuse

When the first T-Party started in our area the repubs were out in full force. They passed out free coffee and dounuts and half priced ice cream if you was willing to carry anti-Obama signs. Since that time some people got smarter and said look if the Bush Adm. had not been so corrupt Obama would not even be in office. They are now looking more at independants and new faces regardless of party if they are willing to look out for the voters and not corporations or foreign countries.

Posted by: SWAMPYPD | July 7, 2010 11:08 PM | Report abuse

"talk about reporting the obvious, poll numbers are more like, "nearly 80% are republicans, 15% are disgruntled and or confused republicans and 6% are actually independents" Telling me that even 15% of teabaggers are democrats, I kinda doubt that. Posted by: richmonet"

That is 15% of T-People claim to be democrats. Like Reagan Claimed to be a Democrat so he could lead "Democrats for _____, whoever he wanted to push for republican to be elected. He NEVER actually knowingly voted for a Democrat, but truth was never his big thing.

The T-s, and all of a sudden all these "Libertarian" activists are republicans who have told themselves at least one truth, it ain't a good thing to be a Republican this year.

Believe them, It AIN'T a good thing to be a republican this year. Republican resurgence template to the contrary.

Posted by: ceflynline | July 7, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Peddler3
When you have to resort to personal attacks, like eating fatty foods, you lost your argument. Who will listen to you? I am quite sure NYT wouldn't even publish what you wrote. They are liberals also, but have much more class than WP.

To WP: why do you publish such garbage?

Posted by: rimantas1 | July 7, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

"The Perot voters were a disparate group, ideologically diverse, with generally secular views."

I'm not even sure what "secular views" is supposed to suggest. I participated in the Reform Party, and there were as many people who were pro-life or leaned pro-life as people who were pro-choice or leaned pro-choice. We simply agreed that the movement should come together and focus on issues that united us and put social issues "on the back burner".

Within the Tea Party, its good to assume there's a higher concentration of people who lean pro-life and disagree with things like gay marriage. But, like Reform Party members, they don't want these social issues to be the main message. While there's no need for unity for within their own ranks, like with the Reform Party, they don't want social issues to distract from fiscal issues, so they can achieve some unity on fiscal issues in the country as a whole. How does that make them "anti-secular" and the Perot movement "secular"?

But it seems Balz is trying to imply anyone with conservative viewpoints on social issues is "anti-secular", and necessarily want to impose a theocracy on the country.

Its a very insulting description

Posted by: brianshapiro | July 7, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

rimantas1,

All the fatty food you eat must clearly be rotting your brain (aren't "red-staters" fatter?). The tea-party phenomenon is nothing more than a rehash of the scurrilous attacks on Clinton in his early presidency. This country needs to be rid of the scourge of right-wing radicalism once and for all.

Posted by: Peddler3 | July 7, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

The liberals like the writer of this column again exhibit the mediocrity of their intellect. When you know a little, pretend you know a lot, analyze till doomsday, hope your excellent prose adds substance to your argument, and then remain in paralysis by analysis.

Republican is an official, formal party whose goal is to field candidates and have them elected. They and the democrats and a few fringe parties make up the ballot. Nothing more, nothing less. You can dissect the membership of each, affirm again that one is more on the right and the other more on the left, and speculate which has the better strategy or chances of winning. Interesting stuff, with ever changing conclusions.

Tea Party is just a glib name given to many people who oppose Obama and are willing to gather and demonstrate and shout and get attention to their point of view. They are not afraid of him, they are secure in their views, as opposed to most the liberal leaning demonstrations which end up in burned cars or smashed windows. Seemingly the liberal demonstrations, the type this writer has sympathy with, protest the country; Tea Party protests Obama.

Without being too complicated, the Tea Party members, all informal, have a clear goal: take down obama, politically of course, because seemingly everything he does is bad for the country. Short term they want Republican congress because they are the only ones opposing Obama. Long term (2012) they want him out.

If Obama does lose in 2012 and we have Republican congress again, the Tea Party will no longer be needed and dissolve. The Democrats will have to reorganize, purge the left from their ranks, and reclaim the sensible middle class they once had. And THEN they can oppose Republicans again with a good chance of winning.

In sum this defines their collective wishes. When confronted by the inimical liberal press, many try to specify a few issues which they feel most strongly about, but all that is secondary. Please liberals, get this point: Tea Party wants Obama and his policies out. They will choose whatever legal means they can. They consist of regular people who are finally fed up and angry at this adminstration and are willing to do do something about it.

Will they succeed? No one knows. But they will try. And frankly, I don't blame them.

Posted by: rimantas1 | July 7, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Check out the Dallas-based National Center for Policy Analysis, John Goodman, and his wife, Jeanette Nordstrom. See if they have had any influence on the tea partiers. I thought they were one of the founders.

Posted by: Jo5311 | July 7, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Many Republicans I know seem merely amused by the Tea Party, because they see it as an "ally" against the Democrats, and a populist movement arising out of core conservative values. It appears to them that the Tea Party is a problem for the Democrats, but is useful to Republicans because it brings press coverage, and the appearance of popular belief in the principles the GOP shares with the TP.

This is a mistake. The consequences of courting this group, or even just humoring it, include the risk that only ultra-conservatives (including real wing nuts, as we see from the prominence of Birthers and the prevalence of outright racists at TP events) will pass muster in Republican primaries, and leave us with candidates that cannot possibly be elected in most districts.

The far right might be pleased that a few of its favored candidates actually do get elected (in places like Utah and Texas), but such a development favors the election of Democrats in most districts.

Just as harboring and supporting Neocons has come back to bite the GOP (the Neocons ran the whole administration of Bush the Lesser....into the ground), so will humoring the Tea Party.

Posted by: Iconoblaster | July 7, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

They're the same crowd who so recently called themselves the "Religious Right." A bunch of ignorant, racist slobs in lame costumes carrying around "Thank you, Glenn Beck," signs, who were the core supporters of George Bush Jr., the imbecile who was responsible for destroying every single financial instrument in the country and bringing us to the edge of ruin. And what's worse, they want to do it all over again with the same support for the same policies that got us in this mess to start with.

It's breathtaking how stupid people can be.

Posted by: Dolmance | July 7, 2010 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Beneath the Photo: Is the "tea party" just a wing of the Republican party?

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Please direct all questions to Rush the Ditto Master.

Posted by: tojby_2000 | July 7, 2010 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Chris, weren't you paying attention to what was going on at all? The Tea Party is just the Nut Wing of the Republican Party. It's clear they are totally gullible and will believe absolutely anything anyone tells them no matter how ridiculous or untrue.

So,Chris, 'breaking news,' the tea party = republicans. Wow, you are gullible as well.

Posted by: cfeher | July 7, 2010 10:13 AM | Report abuse

talk about reporting the obvious, poll numbers are more like, "nearly 80% are republicans, 15% are disgruntled and or confused republicans and 6% are actually independents"
Telling me that even 15% of teabaggers are democrats, I kinda doubt that.

Posted by: richmonet | July 7, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse

talk about reporting the obvious, poll numbers are more like, "nearly 80% are republicans, 15% are disgruntled and or confused republicans and 6% are actually independents"
Telling me that even 15% of teabaggers are democrats, I kinda doubt that.

Posted by: richmonet | July 7, 2010 10:10 AM | Report abuse

such is the life of an impotent loser, pineing for the day she can depart this souless country and head for communist heaven.

No water. no currency. no schools. No AC.

except at the gym.


Poor lonely Ped.

Posted by: Moonbat | July 7, 2010 9:25 AM | Report abuse

Marie Wilson scores again.

Sorry MW but I need to disagree. I don't think CC could compose the obvious analysis you suggest. I think he would be on the floor in spasms long beforehand and when he got up he would have no memory if the attempt, THAT would be purged, and instead he would write something about a Republican endorsing a Republican and why this means Democrats are doomed.

Tim Pawlenty. Mitt Romney. Endorsement hierarchy. Gosh, those awesome Repu-u-ublicans and their great suits. They're soooooo coooool an' conservative an' stuff.

Posted by: Noacoler | July 7, 2010 2:29 AM | Report abuse

Want to see Teabagger 'principles' in action?


Candidate Rand Paul "pledged not to accept contributions from any senator who voted for a federal bailout of the banking industry." So of course, shortly after winning the Republican nomination for the U.S. Senate, Paul jetted off to Washington to attend a $1000 a-plate fundraiser hosted by Sen. Mitch McConnell and other Senators who ... you guessed it ... all voted for the bank bailout.


So Teabag nation must be outraged, right?


"David Roos, a retired minister in Murray who has been active in the Tea Party movement, said it didn't escape notice in his circle that Paul had, as he put it, "capitulated to the establishment ... But Roos said the incident isn't enough to drive conservative voters away from Paul ..."

"Others ... argued that Paul has not turned his back on his principles, but rather is doing what is necessary to win so he can put those principles to work in office ..."

"That doesn't mean that once you get into the game, you can't try to change the system for the better," Witten said. "He's just playing the very few parts of the game that he has to to get in ..."

"If Paul thought he could win without McConnell's fund-raising, he probably would, but he will need that help against Conway, who is wealthy enough to give his campaign a big financial boost, Witten said ..."

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/07/05/97022/tea-partiers-assail-rand-paul.html


In other words, inside Washington, politics as usual doesn't bother the Teabaggers ... and why should it? After all, they're just the fringe Republican base nuts masquerading as Tea Bags.

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Posted by: DrainYou | July 7, 2010 2:18 AM | Report abuse

RE: Tea Party = Republican party? CC

CC must be the last American following politics that has finally connected the dots on that conclusion. Hallelujah.

Of course,according to him, it only means problems for the Democrats (what is new?).

He could not bring himself to go beyond skin deep thoughts and ask what does it mean for the R party to have a vocal and angry wing pushing EXTREMIST (yes this word can used for Republicans!) candidates (i.e. Angle and Rand Paul) and positions (i.e. eliminate SS and Medicare) that are outside the traditions and mainstream of American.

Chris, How about doing an honest appraisal of what the Tea Party really means to the Republicans? It won't hurt and it might feel good. Like a needed purge.


These angry Tea Bag people were never in the Democratic camp (so they are not a loss to the party)regardless of the minimal numbers that say they were Democrats (The Democrats don't support any of what they believe in so why would they ever be in the party?). They were never going to vote for President Obama. The down side is for the Republicans. What might it be?

Posted by: mariewilson11 | July 7, 2010 2:09 AM | Report abuse

Also, the fact that lots of current or former Republicans describe themselves as "libertarian" just means that "Republican" has become a dirty word.

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Maybe.  It's just as likely they call themselves libertarians because they have the idea that it's cool.

Just like they toss around "socialism" because they have the idea that it's uncool.

I don't think they have a dook of an idea what either word means.  Remember, these are the sort of lower orders who can utter a nonsense phrase like "liberal fascism" and see nothing wrong.  Not the sharpest knives in the drawer.  Just like anyone who'd vote Republican while not being a defense contractor.

Posted by: Noacoler | July 7, 2010 1:57 AM | Report abuse

DrainYou wrote: The Teabaggers (the Republican base nuts) held a press conference today.

It didn't go well...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKohsoxqkJw
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Excellent Tea Party press conference, DrainYou. I thought they came off better than usual. Smarter...and with more honesty than I've ever seen from them. Thanks for sharing.

Posted by: wilder5121 | July 7, 2010 12:12 AM | Report abuse

FlowersofPeace aka 37thandOStreet,

Quit making excuse for your fellow Tea Klux Klan racists and get a life, would ya?


You've been banned from this blog twice already and yet you always manage to weasel your way back on here with a new account and new post name.

If Cillizza actually payed attention to his blog more often, fringe whackjobs with no life like yourself would be totally shut off from here and left out in the cold to do what you Wingnutters do best - spank your Magic Johnson's while looking at pictures of Sarah Palin.

Posted by: DrainYou | July 7, 2010 12:05 AM | Report abuse

Comparing the Tea Party to the KKK is patently unfair.

KKK members were better dressed and better educated.

Posted by: wilder5121 | July 7, 2010 12:00 AM | Report abuse

The Teabaggers (the Republican base nuts) held a press conference today.


It didn't go well...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKohsoxqkJw

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Posted by: DrainYou | July 6, 2010 11:55 PM | Report abuse

12bar


This was said


I am just channeling the Great 37 in the Sky


Wow - the leftists continue with their sexual slurs - and hate speech toward the tea party.


See - the real problem is that the democrats believe that the tea party movement is not legitimate - that they should not have the right to express their views in America.


So, listen to the leftists: the Tea Party is actually the KKK.


The KKK had cross burnings, lynched blacks, hung blacks from trees, prevented blacks from voting.


The KKK also had an alliance with the DEMOCRATIC PARTY - which refused to prosecute anyone from the KKK - and the democrats allowed the KKK to run wild and terrorize the black population.

So - Tea Party is the same as that ???


ALL THE HATE SPEECH is coming from the democrats towards the Tea Party.


Complete with sexual slurs.

Everyone who engaged in this hate speech tonight should be banned - this talk on this blog tonight is way beyond the bounds of civil discourse.


Plain and simple - the democrats have forfeited their rights - they are unfit to govern.

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Posted by: FlowersOfPeace | July 6, 2010 11:45 PM | Report abuse

FlowersOfPeace


The only thing missing at the end of your 11:33 is your sign off: "Posted by a brainless Fox "News" Propaganda Channel poodle."

Posted by: wilder5121 | July 6, 2010 11:45 PM | Report abuse

37th,

Bitterness doesn't suit you, but brevity does. For once, you have nothing to say. LOL.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | July 6, 2010 11:41 PM | Report abuse

12Bar


The answer to the question at the end of your 11:27 is a brain.

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Posted by: FlowersOfPeace | July 6, 2010 11:35 PM | Report abuse

Obama is clearing ABUSING his powers with the Justice Department.

In just the past week - two issues have come to the fore.

In the Philadelphia Black Panthers case, Obama is being accused of using his powers to dodge the equal application of the law.

In the Arizona case, Obama is abusing the Justice Department by using tax payer funds to bring a BLANTANTLY PARTISAN MOTIVATED CASE.

If Obama want to score political points, the democratic party lawyers should be filing suit against Arizona, not the Justic Department.

These case are CLEARLY OUT OF BOUNDS.

These are IMPEACHABLE OFFENSES.

Someone is going to have to keep a list of Obama's IMPEACHABLE OFFENSES, because the list is getting extremely long.

Let's just hope that the American People throw the democrats out of their House majority - and the new leadership has the courage TO IMPEACH OBAMA.

This is what everyone means when they talk about CONSTITUTIONAL STANDARDS.

Obama does not respect the Constitution - he would prefer to trample it.

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Posted by: FlowersOfPeace | July 6, 2010 11:33 PM | Report abuse

Forget for a minute who the TP is. Let's look at the success of the Tea Party. That has to be measured by their candidates.

As near as I can remember, these are the candidates promoted by the TP:

Scott Brown, MA
Doug Hoffman, NY 23rd
Rand Paul, KY
Sharron Angle, NV
Marco Rubio, FL
JD Hayworth, AZ
Lou Ann Zelenik, TN
Ken Buck, CO
Clint Didier, WA
Joe Miller, AK

All Republicans, no independents, no Democrats.

Of course, Brown won.
Hoffman lost.
Rubio, Buck, Didier and Hayworth are losing.
Angle and Paul are holding small leads, leads that are closing.
Couldn't find any polling on TN or AK races.

This doesn't sound like overwhelming gains to me.

What am I missing?


Posted by: 12BarBlues | July 6, 2010 11:27 PM | Report abuse

Where was the Tea Party during those eight disastrous years that Bush was destroying our economy, looting the Social Security Trust fund, mortgaging America to communist China, and shredding the Constitution? These morons have ZERO credibility.

Posted by: wilder5121 | July 6, 2010 11:26 PM | Report abuse

FREE LINDSAY LOHAN


Hey, did James Brown ever get out ?


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Posted by: FlowersOfPeace | July 6, 2010 11:22 PM | Report abuse

Plain and simple - the democrats have forfeited their rights - they are unfit to govern.


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Posted by: FlowersOfPeace | July 6, 2010 11:07 PM | Report abuse

===

lol, so what do you call the republicans who completely ignored fiscal responsibility and integrity when they were the ruling party?

I agree Democrats stink. I just think Republicans are even worse and we've seen nothing to suggest they're getting any better.

Posted by: mikem1 | July 6, 2010 11:15 PM | Report abuse

Bill Clinton and his leftwing congress caused the housing market to collapse. Obama is now attacking Wall Street like he is its pimp, or some sort of vampire. The US has become a sideshow under the leftwingers. Obama has a pimp's brain, scared to lose control, paranoid, sucking the lust for living from the hearts of the Americans. He is bad. The audience is leaving the building. Next door the tea party has a ragged tent set up and inside Americans are giving a constitution reading, free lemonade handed out. The audience takes notice. Now out, Obama offers crack from the sidewalk, but no one is listening. They want the real stuff, which is freedom.

Posted by: linuxlund | July 6, 2010 11:08 PM | Report abuse

Wow - the leftists continue with their sexual slurs - and hate speech toward the tea party.

See - the real problem is that the democrats believe that the tea party movement is not legitimate - that they should not have the right to express their views in America.

So, listen to the leftists: the Tea Party is actually the KKK.

The KKK had cross burnings, lynched blacks, hung blacks from trees, prevented blacks from voting.


The KKK also had an alliance with the DEMOCRATIC PARTY - which refused to prosecute anyone from the KKK - and the democrats allowed the KKK to run wild and terrorize the black population.


So - Tea Party is the same as that ???

ALL THE HATE SPEECH is coming from the democrats towards the Tea Party.

Complete with sexual slurs.


Everyone who engaged in this hate speech tonight should be banned - this talk on this blog tonight is way beyond the bounds of civil discourse.

Plain and simple - the democrats have forfeited their rights - they are unfit to govern.


.

Posted by: FlowersOfPeace | July 6, 2010 11:07 PM | Report abuse

"The Gallup data, when combined with the Resurgent Republic findings, suggests that the constant comparisons between today's tea party voter and the supporters of Ross Perot in the early 1990s are simply wrong." The simple fact that they had to compile that date and spend alot of time, any money, and the effort to show that Ross Perot supporters and the tea party are different shows you exactly how stupid those pollsters are. Lets see Ross Perot supporters supported Ross Perot because Ross Perot was running for office. Had he not run for office Perot supporters would have supported democrats or republicans. The Tea party has none of there own candidates. Perot was behind the perot movement. A large number of Americans launched the tea party. Having no candidates of there own they choose candidates that most represent their interests. They choose republicans because they more represent their interests where as democrats really don't represent their interests in anyway shape or form what so ever. If they had there own candidates they would vote for them. Like the Perot supporters voted for Perot. Ya they are backing the republicans but then the democrats have done nothing at all since Obama Took office and they've the party in power. Since the recession started they've been useless and they've been the majority party since 2007. They have had over whelming power in the house since 2009 and had it in the senate until February 4, 2010. If they are going to be the saviors of us why did they do nothing for a year. Why would anyone with any common sense what so ever vote for the democrats in their current incarnation? They gave the money to the banks, they are the ones putting unions ahead of the people, they don't support lobbyists well they don't support the ones that didn't stick them in their seats. Stand up and be proud and lower a flag for your late senator Robert Byrd. A man who would do anything to get elected. Even join the KKK. We give that man higher honors than any other recent senator and yet we call the republicans racist. Arlen Specter was such a man to stand up and do anything to get elected. He became a democrat to get reelected last time around and he got the support of his new party. The only thing I don't think a democrat politician is willing to do is bend to the will of the people they represent. Personally I think we need to elect new senators and new representatives until they are all new. After that we need to enact term limits. I don't have the abilities to do polls like gallup but numbers are easily fixed. I think the tea party will expect all people they help to elect to push there views.

Posted by: serialjoepsycho3 | July 6, 2010 11:00 PM | Report abuse

In my considered opinion, what it all boils down to is that the Tea Party identifies more in philosophy with the Libertarians than with either the Dems or GOP.

The simple fact, however, is that a 3rd party will not win an election in 2010, 2012, or anytime in the near future.

Being generally intelligent, the Tea Party members acknowledge this. For the most part, Republicans are the lesser of two evils.

Tea Party "members" (I use that term loosely because there is no "official" party, nor do Tea Partiers want one, see things pragmatically. So, with the simple fact that a 3rd party is virtually impossible in our current environment, the activists pick whichever candidate most reflects the ideology of a Tea Party citizen.

In almost every case the candidate will be a member of the Republican party, but NOT the "establishment" member. This is where a lesson is being taught and a message sent.

Dems have had (and still have) every opportunity to garner the support of Tea Party citizens, should they, for one moment, view us as INDEPENDENTS, and not gun-toting, dress-up, ultra-right fanatics.

The simple truth behind the Tea Party citizenry is that we are disgusted by the established status quo and we are the few who are motivated enough to do something about it. The Dems ought to be quaking in thier proverbial boots. The Dems rode the wave of "Hope and Change" in the 2008 elections that brought Obama to power, yet they ridicule the exact same grass-roots sentiment that the Tea Partiers express when showing their disgust with the status quo, which is (unfortunately for the Dems) fed by control of both houses of Congress, as well as the executive.

There's no secret about it. Tea Party citizens are sick and tired of the general state of affairs and are willing, ready, and able to change that state of affairs.

Most Tea Partiers see both the Dems and the GOP as being useless, but have resolved themselves to supporting whichever candidate can both express their will, AND win an election.

It is not difficult to understand.

Posted by: MD03 | July 6, 2010 10:58 PM | Report abuse

You leftists are unbelievably dense. The Tea Party didn't start out Republican.
Posted by: prof_robinson | July 6, 2010 10:34 PM | Report abuse


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Nonsense. I'm a moderate who supported Perot, but the tea party smelled like recycled republicans from the very start. How else to explain their silence during the previous eight years of republican rule? Where was their fiscal outrage when Cheney said "Deficits don't matter"?

Coincidence that they started a few weeks after Obama was sworn in? NOT FRIGGIN LIKELY.

Posted by: mikem1 | July 6, 2010 10:57 PM | Report abuse

The media's "portrayal" of Republicans, Conservatives, Tea Party movement members, etc., etc. is all about DISINFORMATION! It is absolutely amazing the DISINFORMATION that the Washington Post and the New York Times spew forth each day. When I was young, these were the two American newspapers people look to for the truth. What has happened? I talk to people all the time who have stopped reading both newspapers because they only print DISINFORMATION. It's a sad commentary on American journalism and American morals.

Posted by: georges2 | July 6, 2010 10:53 PM | Report abuse

The media's "portrayal" of Republicans, Conservatives, Tea Party movement members, etc., etc. is all about DISINFORMATION! It is absolutely amazing the DISINFORMATION that the Washington Post and the New York Times spew forth each day. When I was young, these were the two American newspapers people look to for the truth. What has happened? I talk to people all the time who have stopped reading both newspapers because they only print DISINFORMATION. It's a sad commentary on American journalism and American morals.

Posted by: georges2 | July 6, 2010 10:53 PM | Report abuse

The media's "portrayal" of Republicans, Conservatives, Tea Party movement members, etc., etc. is all about DISINFORMATION! It is absolutely amazing the DISINFORMATION that the Washington Post and the New York Times spew forth each day. When I was young, these were the two American newspapers people look to for the truth. What has happened? I talk to people all the time who have stopped reading both newspapers because they only print DISINFORMATION. It's a sad commentary on American journalism and American morals.

Posted by: georges2 | July 6, 2010 10:53 PM | Report abuse

If the Tea Party REALLY believed in fiscal responsibility and the Constitution...there wouldn't be a single Republican left standing in November. It's all a lie...owned and operated by the GOP and Big Insurance lobbyists. That's well documented fact.

Posted by: wilder5121 | July 6, 2010 10:49 PM | Report abuse

Teabaggers are the Christian fundamentalist mofos who want to shove their right wing values down my throat. I will leave claymores pointing towards them on my front lawn.

Posted by: veloboldie | July 6, 2010 10:47 PM | Report abuse

Teabaggers are the Christian fundamentalist mofos who want to shove their right wing values down my throat. I will leave claymore mines pointing towards them on my front lawn.

Posted by: veloboldie | July 6, 2010 10:45 PM | Report abuse

LOL...love the headline on the homepage...GOP base! I wonder how many see the humor (or more likely, the truth) in that? GOP certainly doesn't stand for "genteel old party!"

Posted by: kroshka | July 6, 2010 10:38 PM | Report abuse

LOL...love the headline on the homepage...GOP base! I wonder how many see the humor (or truth, perhaps) in that?

Posted by: kroshka | July 6, 2010 10:37 PM | Report abuse

You leftists are unbelievably dense. The Tea Party didn't start out Republican. In the beginning, it was highly independant... all the early polling showed that. But now, the Republicans are claiming them - mostly because their ideals align better than with yours. You are watching the replenishment of the Republican base by an actual grass roots movement, and all you can do is snort and chortle. The only people you have to blame are yourselves... these free-agents are leaving the Left and the middle because of your ideas, not because of any bigotry. Your ideas are so incredibly destructive and unpopular, you are dooming yourselves but you can't see it. Calling them racists is only driving them farther away. And like the (American) rigs in the gulf; they ain't coming back anytime soon. You laugh at them now... but unless you get puerto rican statehood quick or rig some more elections, I think you'll wish those free agents were still on your side in 2010 & 2012.

Posted by: prof_robinson | July 6, 2010 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Of course the teabaggers are all right-wing Republicans; this is old news confirmed in several polls, studies, and interviews.

They simply are too embarrassed to call themselves "Republican" after their party crippled America with 8 years of defective conservative ideology.

Posted by: frankcam | July 6, 2010 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Whoa, flowersofpeace.
I'm one of those liberals the members of the tea party love to hate. Because I don't appreciate being called a leftist, a socialist, a communist, or any of the other terms that many conservatives apply so freely, I try to avoid characterizing conservatives in similar ways.
I've written thoughts similar to this on a number of comment boards: Blanket characterizations do not promote reasonable discussion. Threatening violence, which I think some people sympathetic to the tea party do far too much, does not promote reasonable discussion. Frankly, dressing up in costumes and carrying guns doesn't help to promote reasoned discussion. Claiming to have simple solutions, such as building a big fence, to complex problems, such as immigration reform, doesn't promote reasoned discussion.
There was a time in this country when debate was possible. Members of Congress didn't scream at each other in the Chamber. They didn't play cheerleader on the speaker's balcony. They distanced themselves from the extreme elements of their parties instead of embracing them. You know, or should know, that President Obama has not pleased his more liberal supporters. When can we expect to see Rush Limbaugh, Glen Beck, Ann Coulter, Mitch McConnell, and John Boehner going to move toward the center? Will the Tea Party then follow?

Posted by: jlhare1 | July 6, 2010 10:28 PM | Report abuse

So either the GOP is simply brilliant, or, incredibly stupid. Unforetunately, I can't seem to figure out which, yet.

Posted by: jralger | July 6, 2010 10:26 PM | Report abuse

I'm not a Republican because I don't believe in religion or God. I wish the tea party would cut out religion from their agenda. Washington is broken in that it is swelling and comprising the constitution. Kagan? Come on...

Posted by: linuxlund


I agree wholeheartedly with this poster. I would Love to see the democrats thrown out on their smug little butts ... but to replace them with republicans?

The party with bad ideas vs the party with no ideas. Take your pick of which one is which.

If Americans could stop identifying themselves as a particular party, and start paying attention to what's really going on instead of spending all their time throwing bags of flaming poo at each other ... maybe we might get some people who could actually lead in the government.

As it is, both parties pander to the flaming poo lovers. what a colossal waste of time it is to be a democrat or a republican.

Posted by: jontomus | July 6, 2010 10:25 PM | Report abuse

Hmmm. We need to follow up on Jake's drinking game. Whenever someone asks for someone else to be banned, take a drink. If racist or racism is alleged, take a drink. Have to work on the old Bob game.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | July 6, 2010 10:24 PM | Report abuse

What a disgraceful set of comments tonight.

First, to be kind, the leftists have mischaracterized the Tea Party.

Sexual slurs have flown tonight at the rate of how many per hour ???

AND now the Tea Party is actually the KKK - with cross burnings and lynchings, right?

The Tea Party is far, far from the KKK.


Anyone who tried to say that should be BANNED IMMEDIATELY.

The sterotyping and the sexual slurs tonight are WAY OUT OF BOUNDS - AND REPRESENT UNCIVIL BEHAVIOR ON THIS BLOG.

The only question is: Will the offenders be rounded up and banned ????

Or do all those offenses go unenforced, while a vague, unknown rule gets enforced ???

This is not a FIFA goal official.


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Posted by: FlowersOfPeace | July 6, 2010 10:13 PM | Report abuse

So, the Fox News, Freedom Works, Koch Industries created astroturf group that has been marketed as the Tea Party is really the hard-core Republican base rebranded? Shocking news!

So, why does it seem as if Mr. Cillizza is the only one surprised?

Posted by: VAreader | July 6, 2010 10:12 PM | Report abuse

This sounds like a piece influenced by the JournoList...you are better than this Cillizza and you need to stay away from Ezra Klein. Check out the South Carolina primaries--2 Bush Republicans lost big time in the primaries and Strom Thurmond's son lost big as well. The Tea Party is NOT politics as usual, i.e., this is not a faux anti-establishment movement like the Obama movement of 2007-2008 (his movement was helped behind the scenes by the Democratic Washington establishment).

The Tea Party members are conservatives and will vote for Republicans, but at least in SC they rejected Bush Republicans.

Posted by: porterhouse1 | July 6, 2010 10:11 PM | Report abuse

Wow, you liberals must be terrified! Look at all the crying and whining and namecalling. Afraid of a little ol' tea party?

Let me be the first to say: I'm sorry I beat you up in middle school. I'm sorry I slept with your wife. I'm sorry you live on the government dole. I'm sorry about your self-esteem issues.

There. Feel better?

Posted by: diesel_skins
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Aaaahhhh....Now THAT's funny stuff!! Ah....geez... :-)

Posted by: jeepmanjr | July 6, 2010 10:00 PM | Report abuse

"The Tea Party. Because the Klan needed rebranding."

So soon after they wrapped a white sheet around Robert Byrd's casket and paraded his old racist butt around town? For shame!

Posted by: diesel_skins_ | July 6, 2010 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Wow, you liberals must be terrified! Look at all the crying and whining and namecalling. Afraid of a little ol' tea party?

Let me be the first to say: I'm sorry I beat you up in middle school. I'm sorry I slept with your wife. I'm sorry you live on the government dole. I'm sorry about your self-esteem issues.

There. Feel better?

Posted by: diesel_skins_ | July 6, 2010 9:56 PM | Report abuse

Uh, Obama would have to get up hours earlier in the morning to even hold a candle to Bush's spending. Deficits under Obama have an actual purpose and function. ~~~~~~~~~~~~ He, he...Holy cwap batman. We truly are dealing with a complete idiot here. See this guy? He's why we have the problems we have today. He's living proof that humans are not the smartest animals on the planet. And another sheep lines up for a shearing.

Posted by: jeepmanjr | July 6, 2010 9:55 PM | Report abuse

The Tea Party. Because the Klan needed rebranding.

Posted by: losthorizon10 | July 6, 2010 9:50 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Noacoler - We need a credible foil for the excesses of the Democrats, not a swinish bunch of religious junk about gods and guns and economic hive-mind. And the baggers are just pushing the GOP over the cliff. ~~~~~~~~~~ Good job! The Lib-Rats cherish people like you. Easily swayed, believes everything the liberal media says, and a dire need to have someone "bigger" run their lives. There are plenty of other countries that fit that bill Noacoler. One way ticket? God, guns and hive-minds are what this country is founded upon. Not easily swayed, little minded persons like yourself. Like the other Lib-Rats, you are afraid, so afraid. Now run along...ur not welcome anymore.

Posted by: jeepmanjr | July 6, 2010 9:49 PM | Report abuse

I thought this was obvious -- the vast majority of Tea Party folks are conservative Republicans. It is the right wing of the GOP.

Also, the fact that lots of current or former Republicans describe themselves as "libertarian" just means that "Republican" has become a dirty word.

Posted by: brian_away | July 6, 2010 9:48 PM | Report abuse

I thought this was obvious -- the vast majority of Tea Party folks are conservative Republicans. It is the right wing of the GOP.

Also, the fact that lots of current or former Republicans describe themselves as "libertarian" just means that "Republican" has become a dirty word.

Posted by: brian_away | July 6, 2010 9:46 PM | Report abuse

I'm not a Republican because I don't believe in religion or God. I wish the tea party would cut out religion from their agenda. Washington is broken in that it is swelling and comprising the constitution. Kagan? Come on...

Posted by: linuxlund | July 6, 2010 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Another feeble attempt at liberals trying to define the Tea Party movement. Admit it...You're scared huh?

Posted by: jeepmanjr | July 6, 2010 9:39 PM | Report abuse

These are some interesting statistics, apart from- who cares?

I'm an Independent, and I don't care, though I'm sure Liberals sure do...maybe Gallup should do a poll on how many like me will vote in the coming elections.

Posted by: moebius22 | July 6, 2010 9:27 PM | Report abuse

First of all, there is no "far left" in the USA, there isn't even any near left. There is far right and extreme right. even the most liberal Democrats believe that free market garbage. So quack that crap.

The return of two-party government is being *hindered* by the baggers; the Republicans should be moving to the center, moving away from the nutty ideological junk that led them to screw up so much, instead they're doubling down on it.

We need a credible foil for the excesses of the Democrats, not a swinish bunch of religious junk about gods and guns and economic hive-mind. And the baggers are just pushing the GOP over the cliff.

Posted by: Noacoler | July 6, 2010 9:15 PM | Report abuse

Yeah. From Wiki: "The show (Rifleman) was created and initially developed by a young Sam Peckinpah, who would go on to become the director of classic Western movies (The Wild Bunch, Ride the High Country, etc.). Peckinpah, who wrote and directed many of the best episodes from the first season, based many of the characters and situations on real-life scenarios from his childhood growing up on a ranch."

Trivia: Peckinpah was living at the time in an abandoned quonset hut on the sand in Malibu with his wife and kids.

Posted by: wilder5121 | July 6, 2010 9:09 PM | Report abuse

OK, so what? The underlying conclusion is that the Tea Party is comprised of people who do not wish to be governed from the far Left. They will have earned respect if they can contribute to a return of two-party government for the country.

Posted by: bubba31138 | July 6, 2010 9:09 PM | Report abuse

The media can not find anything positive to write about Obama or the democrats so they go after the Tea Party or repubs or anything else to take the heat off the most incompetent administration ever.

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Ah, no.

Nobody needs to "go after" the TP, they're doing a bang-up job of marginalizing themselves. They're angry, angry, angry and they're so extreme that they're just plain shocking. They have a mishmash of self-contradictory goals and their rallies are loaded with racist expressions that are entirely out of step with the times.

They're pressuring the GOP to run unelectable nutjobs who need to be muzzled, and who lead to more establishment Republicans to choose between repudiating them or agreeing with them, which is a lose-lose proposition. So in that at least they're doing some good.

Now can we PLEASE get back to cool cinematic villains? We're going in circles talking about the baggers. Just look at that goofus in the pic above, a vagrant wearing a tricorn with a teabag hanging in front of his face. Only thing he's missing is a bright colored kid's beach float around his waist, and it wouldn't surprise me if it's there, just cut off by the camera.

Posted by: Noacoler | July 6, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Of the three, only saw Tin Star, which I liked.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | July 6, 2010 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Some other great Neville Brand villains to go along with Chester: King Fisher in THE LONELY MAN, Bart Bogardus in THE TIN STAR, and the psycho Steve in CRY TERROR.

Posted by: Brigade | July 6, 2010 8:55 PM | Report abuse

The media can not find anything positive to write about Obama or the democrats so they go after the Tea Party or repubs or anything else to take the heat off the most incompetent administration ever. These idiots couldn't even run a $1B cash-for-clunkers program. They even failed on the second version, a $3B cash-for-clunkers. They've screwed up everything they've touched. Even the Obama koolaid drinkers on this board can't find anything positive to say about him so they attack everyone else. Too predictable, too funny. Barrack "the rudderless ship" Obama or was it "It's Bush's fault!" Ah, such leadership.

Posted by: Tostitos | July 6, 2010 8:54 PM | Report abuse

I agree. Boone much better Lash Canino than Bob Steele in 46, though Steele did go on to playing in both Have Gun Will Travel and Death Valley Days.

Posted by: wilder5121 | July 6, 2010 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Loved both shows. Boone was incredible. Didn't know Peckinpah was involved with Rifleman. Interesting.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | July 6, 2010 8:50 PM | Report abuse

everybody knows that Richard Boone as Paladin in Have Gun Will Travel
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Yeah! And what a slogan! Four words we remember 40 years later.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | July 6, 2010 8:45 PM | Report abuse

You kiddin'? Richard Boone was Lash Canino in the '78 Big Sleep.

Best. Lash. Canino. EVER.

Posted by: Noacoler | July 6, 2010 8:43 PM | Report abuse

This is hardly news. The tea party is a logical continuation of the direction the Republican party has taken since Reagan. The only difference is that now some of the young stalwarts of the Reagan revolution are showing signs of senility and need to play dress up in public.

Posted by: jlhare1 | July 6, 2010 8:40 PM | Report abuse

Hey, this isn't a TV discussion, so cut it out. Anyway, everybody knows that Richard Boone as Paladin in Have Gun Will Travel and Sam Peckinpah's The Rifleman were the best. Ever. Period.

Posted by: wilder5121 | July 6, 2010 8:38 PM | Report abuse

I'm really hopin' "diesel" is not local HOFer Riggo. Say it ain't so.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | July 6, 2010 8:37 PM | Report abuse

That was it, Laredo, (slaps forehead) he only appeared in a few episodes of the others.

Chester:Brand = Torrance:Nicholson

Posted by: Noacoler | July 6, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Brand may have been a guest star on those TV shows, but I don't think he was a regular. He really gave Edmond O'Brien a hard time in DOA, one of my favorites.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | July 6, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Uh, Obama would have to get up hours earlier in the morning to even hold a candle to Bush's spending. Deficits under Obama have an actual purpose and function: to stimulate the economy and avoid a major depression. That might have succeeded a lot better had so much of that been actually spent on job creation instead of wasted on the Republican hobbyhorse, tax cuts.

Bush's spending on the other hand was for totally frivolous reasons, two wars for the fun of it.

Posted by: Noacoler | July 6, 2010 8:31 PM | Report abuse

Well Neville Brand was in "Bonanza" and "Gunsmoke," wasn't he? And he just ROCKED as Chester in "DOA."

I mean how can you talk about Dale Robertson compared to Neville Brand?

Posted by: Noacoler | July 6, 2010 8:22 PM
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I don't think Neville Brand was ever a regular on those series. He was a regular in a series called LAREDO in the late sixties. A great villain. If memory serves, he, like Audie Murphy, was one of the most decorated soldiers in WWII.

Posted by: Brigade | July 6, 2010 8:30 PM | Report abuse

"Keep calling them racists. ... Keep ridiculing. Keep demonizing. ...

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Posted by: diesel_skins_ | July 6, 2010 8:23 PM"
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All right. All right. We will.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | July 6, 2010 8:30 PM | Report abuse

Teabaggers are to the mainstream Republican party what Ralph Nader was to Democrats. Enjoy.

Posted by: capmbillie | July 6, 2010 8:26 PM | Report abuse

You guys completely miss the historic significance of the tea party -- and the threat to your threadbare king. When was the last time you saw conservatives taking to the streets? Never in my lifetime. This isn't Republican politics as usual -- anyone who thinks so is a fool. That includes WaPo writers and halfwit liberals commenting here.

This is different. It's not a new party. It's a movement. That's why it confuses liberal journalists. It's a bunch of people who rightly see that Washington spending -- under Bush but massively accelerated under Obama -- is way out of control.

And they're doing something about it. Action, not words on a TelePrompter. You'll see the results in November.

Keep calling them racists. That word just bounces off now -- you've overplayed it. Keep ridiculing. Keep demonizing. Keep up with the politics of hate and destruction.

You're going to fail. It's going to be Morning in America again!

Posted by: diesel_skins_ | July 6, 2010 8:23 PM | Report abuse

Well Neville Brand was in "Bonanza" and "Gunsmoke," wasn't he? And he just ROCKED as Chester in "DOA."

I mean how can you talk about Dale Robertson compared to Neville Brand?

Posted by: Noacoler | July 6, 2010 8:22 PM | Report abuse

There ain't nothing worse than a "rebranded" Conservative Republican claiming to now be a Tea Bagger. As if... after all of these years they can now see the light, or had a rude awakening.

Give me a break!

Conservative, Tea Bagger, Republicans, GOP, Rubes and Goobers are all the same from where I sit.


Once a Republican always a Republican and slapping a new name on it, or calling it something different does NOT change conservatism in any form or fashion what so ever.

Posted by: lcarter0311 | July 6, 2010 8:20 PM | Report abuse

What about "Wagon Train" and "Peter Gunn?"

I thought "Guns of Will Sonnett" was overrated.

"ashes t'ashes .. dust t'dust"

Posted by: Noacoler | July 6, 2010 8:08 PM
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Yes, but no Dale Robertson. I think he was in something called THE IRON HORSE back in the sixties.

Posted by: Brigade | July 6, 2010 8:17 PM | Report abuse

Surprised no mention of "Zorro" w/ Guy Williams. :-)

Posted by: broadwayjoe | July 6, 2010 8:14 PM | Report abuse

"... They will make up some seats in Congress, typically of off-year elections, will crow about Real Americans taking 'Merica back from the Libs. Then, the 2012 election will be in the offing and its outcomes will have nothing to do w/ 2010 results. If the economy still tanks, GOP is back in the White House. If the economy rebounds, Obama is back for 4.

Posted by: thesack | July 6, 2010 8:03 PM"
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We saw the same thing in California during the Pete Wilson era. The rightwing hollering and hatemongering worked for awhile and then it backfired big time as the lunacy and bigotry turned everyone off. You're right: there'll be some off-year gains for the party not in the WH, then it will be downhill from there and BHO will win in a landslide. The baggers have zero appeal outside the old Confederate states and the separatist compounds.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | July 6, 2010 8:11 PM | Report abuse

What about "Wagon Train" and "Peter Gunn?"

I thought "Guns of Will Sonnett" was overrated.

"ashes t'ashes .. dust t'dust"

Posted by: Noacoler | July 6, 2010 8:08 PM | Report abuse

Did anyone ever think otherwise?

Posted by: LeftGuy | July 6, 2010 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Excellent TV shows.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | July 6, 2010 8:03 PM | Report abuse

This is surprising? A 'new' political movement, totally 'grassroots' grows to 'shake-up the establishment' called the Tea Party & the media ooohs and aaahs at this new force in the world of politics. Whadda crock! It's a new movement, yet every point mirrors some GOP talking point. Every element becomes more right wing, yet this is some natural coming together of disenfranchised Americans? Puh-leeze.

They lost the last election and are pissed. They will make up some seats in Congress, typically of off-year elections, will crow about Real Americans taking 'Merica back from the Libs. Then, the 2012 election will be in the offing and its outcomes will have nothing to do w/ 2010 results. If the economy still tanks, GOP is back in the White House. If the economy rebounds, Obama is back for 4.

Posted by: thesack | July 6, 2010 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Smug, ignorant, loud, pathetic, self-righteous fools!

Posted by: jimsteinberg1 | July 6, 2010 8:02 PM | Report abuse

Brig-ade, if you liked Janeane Garofalo on the teabaggers, you'll LOVE Fix coworker and Pulitzer Prize winner Eugene Robinson on that same unpleasant subject. From his great piece, "How Long Can GOP Leaders Ignore Tea Party Death Threats?"
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"Let’s not pretend anymore that the tea party movement is harmless. The right to protest is one of our cherished American freedoms. But there is no right to vandalism, no right to threaten our elected officials’ lives. Someone is going to get hurt unless those who lead the movement—and those who exploit it—start acting like responsible adults.

What are the chances of that?

It was Sarah Palin, the Eva Peron of the tea party crowd, who used Facebook to target 20 Democrats who voted for health care reform, indicating their districts’ locations on a map with the cross hairs of a rifle scope. It was Palin who wrote on Twitter: “Commonsense Conservatives & lovers of America: ‘Don’t Retreat, Instead—RELOAD!’"

Thank you, Mr. Robinson.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | July 6, 2010 8:01 PM | Report abuse

Founder and President of the Tea Party, Dale Robertson---

TALES OF WELLS FARGO, DEATH VALLEY DAYS, and now this.

Posted by: Brigade | July 6, 2010 8:00 PM | Report abuse

Everybody on planet Earth knew that these radical fringe groups of racists, screamers, whiners, and assorted crazies were sure to pop up after a brilliant black man was elected President of the United States.

Only nobody predicted they'd dress up like George Washington and Ben Franklin and look so ridiculous.

Posted by: wilder5121 | July 6, 2010 7:59 PM | Report abuse

" Rand Paul and Sharron Angle actually had to be taken to a nondisclosed secure location to keep their views out of the national media. Posted by: 12BarBlues"

And Angle has sued Reid for reposting her original web page because it "deceives people about her."

Whevever they come up for air they say something even more calculated to alienate everyone but refugees from Giant Flying Saucers.

Posted by: ceflynline | July 6, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

It's interesting that elsewhere in today's Post there is an article describing advertisers' efforts to link their marketing to tea party anger. Meanwhile, Mr. Cillizza suggests that, at the bottom of it, the TP movement is just the base of the GOP.

Anyway you look at it, media coverage of the right-wing, racialist, ersatz conservative political activity that has fused into the TP tent has been weak and unfocused. Further, that a sufficiently large enough component of a major political party can manifest such ugly, ignorant and recidivist behavior is a sad comment on the state of the nation.

Progressives need to be counted upon in full force this fall to assure that the the Republican Party doesn't regain sway in Congress (or anywhere else). Hopefully President Obama will take up the challenge to lead this effort.

Posted by: woodmack | July 6, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Tea Party is like an economic bubble. Yeah, there was something there, but then it was hyped up well beyond its value by the punditocracy. Which led to the Republican party investing in it leading them to buy large shares of Rubio, Toomey, McMahon, Angle, and Paul. But like all these bubbles, they eventually burst, leaving the Republican party with a bunch of lousy goods.

So of course, they will try to get a taxpayer bailout this November.

Posted by: DDAWD | July 6, 2010 7:56 PM | Report abuse

There IS no Tea Party. There is the Republican, the gaggle of "volunteers" organized by the likes of former GOPer Dick Armey's "Freed Works," and the mass of disgruntled individuals who want any number of (sometimes conflicting) solutions to local, state, and national public problems. Where do "5tea partiers" stand on abortion rights? On our involvements in Iraq and Afghanistan, on immigration (and particularly amnesty, which Ronald Wilson Reagan supported)? On elimination of the Department of Energy and the Clean Water and Clean Air Acts? On the US Department of Education? THere IS nothing approaching a unified Tea Party, unless it's the Republican party. And after W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Don Rumsfeld, Hank Paulson, Chris Cox, and others who led the way to our near financial and military collapse, you want THESE people back in authority?

Posted by: JohnBrown08 | July 6, 2010 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Can't get two thousand people at a convention? Hell, they can't get two dozen at a public rally in a big city. That's why they need to dress up vagrants in tricorns (see pic above) and bribe them with T-bird to swell the attendance.

The first rally had a bunch of late-middle age angry people milling around trying to figure out which direction to walk, each successive "protest" has been smaller. Their candidates fizzle in the polls and they've managed to alienate just about everyone and disgust most everyone.

Sharrrrron Angle is suing Harry Reid's campaign to stop displaying *****her own web site***** prior to its hasty sanitizing.

Rand Paul wants to bring back segregation, end disability acces, what's next, cholera?

Yeah, some movement. The kind you bring to the doctor.

Posted by: Noacoler | July 6, 2010 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Hey Broadwayjoe, as long as we're pasting, here's something a true blue liberal should appreciate:

A pretty little girl named Suzy was standing on the sidewalk in
front of her home. Next to her was a basket containing a number of
tiny creatures; in her hand was a sign announcing

FREE KITTENS.

"Suddenly a line of big black cars pulled up beside her. Out of the
lead car stepped a tall, grinning man.
"Hi there little girl, I'm President Obama. What do you have in the
basket?" he asked.
"Kittens," little Suzy said.
"How old are they?" asked Obama.
Suzy replied, "They're so young, their eyes aren't even open yet."
"And what kind of kittens are they?"
"Democrats," answered Suzy with a smile.

Obama was delighted. As soon as he returned to his car, he called
his PR chief and told him about the little girl and the kittens.
Recognizing the perfect photo op, the two men agreed that the
president should return the next day; and in front of the assembled
media, have the girl talk about her discerning kittens.

So the next day, Suzy was again standing on the sidewalk with her
basket of "FREE KITTENS," when another motorcade pulled up, this
time followed by vans from ABC, NBC, CBS and CNN.
Cameras and audio equipment were quickly set up, then Obama got out
of his limo and walked over to little Suzy.

"Hello, again," he said, "I'd love it if you would tell all my
friends out there what kind of kittens you're giving away."
"Yes sir," Suzy said. "They're Republicans."
Taken by surprise, the president stammered, "But... but...
yesterday, you told me they were DEMOCRATS."
Little Suzy smiled and said, "I know. But today, they have their
eyes open"

Posted by: Brigade | July 6, 2010 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Funny... early on, liberals and the media (wait, was I redundant?) ignored the tea parties. Massive tea party protests would come and go with nary a word in the Washington Post -- while three smelly liberals in Code Pink t-shirts meeting on a street corner would merit a front-page story.

Then you turned to ridicule. Then you demonized.

But the little tea parties managed to overturn the liberal apple cart -- first in Virginia and New Jersey, then in Massachusetts.

Now you're just scared. And you should be. The tea parties have a simple, clear message about financial responsibility that both parties ignore to their peril.

The good news is that you head-in-the-sand liberals want to party like it's 2008 forever. Guess what? The bill's coming due. And you're gonna pay it.

Posted by: diesel_skins_ | July 6, 2010 7:40 PM | Report abuse
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VA what a shock that a GOP person wins ina conservative state...shocking upset there...
NJ, the Democrats should have lost to a 3rd party candidate, not a corporatist.
Now MA, the reace all you conservative howl about. Brown ran as a pro-choice, pro-same sex marraige GOPer...Oh wait... you ran on issues Democrats trump... So the message to the GOP is, you need to be more like Democrats to win in MA...

golf clap for the tea party in all these races...

Posted by: dwdave67 | July 6, 2010 7:50 PM | Report abuse

Founder and President of the Tea Party, Dale Robertson, carrying its now famous banner.

http://washingtonindependent.com/73036/n-word-sign-dogs-would-be-tea-party-leader

Just "conservative"?

Posted by: broadwayjoe | July 6, 2010 7:49 PM | Report abuse

Broadwayjoe wrote,
"Let's be very honest about what this is about. This is not about bashing Democrats. It's not about taxes. They have no idea what the Boston Tea Party was about. They don't know their history at all. It's about hating a black man in the White House. That is racism straight up. This is nothing but a bunch of teabagging rednecks.”

For good reason, Janeane opens her comedy act with:

"If there's any tea baggers here, welcome, and as always, white power."
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Joe keeps these quotes in notepad and pastes them here at least once a day. Just make up a name as the source, Joe. It's obvious from the first paragraph that the person's probably an idiot. When you admit that it's Janeane, you remove all doubt. Maybe I should post some Jackie Mason quotes. He has slightly more credibility than Janeane.

Posted by: Brigade | July 6, 2010 7:49 PM | Report abuse

Don't forget the part about the right-wingers are willing to sell out true American ideals for 30 pieces of zinc alloy.

These people are arming and very dangerous. If they don't get their way all the time they are willing to burn it all down so nobody can be happy. They want everyone to suffer if they can't be allowed to destroy it all. So, they will will destroy it all anyway.

Who killed the United States of America? The republican party.

Posted by: BigTrees | July 6, 2010 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Reps = Hate EVERYBODY Party.

Posted by: wilder5121 | July 6, 2010 7:46 PM | Report abuse

"depraved electorate" who voted for Barack Obama
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You guys better worry that you can't even get 2000 delegates to attend your Las Vegas Tea Party convention before you worry about the "depraved electorate" of 67 million who voted Democratic in 2008.

The Tea Party started out with a bang, got a few victories, and are now fizzling. Their candidates are looking weaker and weaker in general election polls. Rand Paul and Sharron Angle actually had to be taken to a nondisclosed secure location to keep their views out of the national media.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | July 6, 2010 7:45 PM | Report abuse

"Don't tell me about Ron Paul. I have a 3-IQ.

Posted by: Noacoler | July 6, 2010 6:14 PM
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Corrected the typo.

Posted by: Brigade "


ROFLMAO!!!!!!!

Posted by: DDAWD | July 6, 2010 7:44 PM | Report abuse

I'm a 34 year-old female independent libertarian who supports the Tea Party

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So what do you want, a piece of cheese?

Way to establish your political credentials right out the gate, "I'm a sociopath who found a party that validates my mental illness."

You go ahead and vote for knucklewalkers like Ron Paul and Sharrrrrrrrrron Angle and you keep your grimy collection of pennies and nickels in a white-fisted grip before some do-gooder tries to take them away from you and give them to some lazy inner city type person with dark skin so he can buy drugs and rape your daughter.

Yeah, libertarian. How fu cking original. Wow.

Posted by: Noacoler | July 6, 2010 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Dems = Hate Whites Party.

Posted by: OldAtlantic | July 6, 2010 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Keep trying, Chrissy.

Posted by: NoWayNotNow | July 6, 2010 7:43 PM | Report abuse

I hope you smelly liberals keep playing that tired old race card right up to November. Keep believing that it's the Klan behind the tea parties. That'll make it a total surprise in November for you.

By the way, did anyone notice that they wrapped Byrd's casket in a white sheet?

Posted by: diesel_skins_ | July 6, 2010 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Um, I'm a 34 year-old female independent libertarian who supports the Tea Party.

You folks who think the tea partiers are a bunch of old, white republican men are in for a shock. I can't WAIT for November...
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When did you switch to the GOP? All the tea partiers run on the GOP ticket.

If you are a libertarian and you vote GOP, you have taken on GIANT step in the wrong direction. The Dick Armey marketing campiagn claims another independent victim.

Posted by: dwdave67 | July 6, 2010 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Um, I'm a 34 year-old female independent libertarian who supports the Republican Party and their front groups and Big Insurance lobbyists and Fox "News" propaganda channel who control and finance the Tea Party.

You folks who think the tea partiers are a bunch of old, white republican men are in for a shock. I can't WAIT for November...

Posted by: wilder5121 | July 6, 2010 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Tea Party - a group of people who tell us you can reduce deficits by lowering taxes.

Um, yeah, real distinct from Republicans.

http://www.therealsharronangle.com/

Website is now up.

Posted by: DDAWD | July 6, 2010 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Funny... early on, liberals and the media (wait, was I redundant?) ignored the tea parties. Massive tea party protests would come and go with nary a word in the Washington Post -- while three smelly liberals in Code Pink t-shirts meeting on a street corner would merit a front-page story.

Then you turned to ridicule. Then you demonized.

But the little tea parties managed to overturn the liberal apple cart -- first in Virginia and New Jersey, then in Massachusetts.

Now you're just scared. And you should be. The tea parties have a simple, clear message about financial responsibility that both parties ignore to their peril.

The good news is that you head-in-the-sand liberals want to party like it's 2008 forever. Guess what? The bill's coming due. And you're gonna pay it.

Posted by: diesel_skins_ | July 6, 2010 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Don't tell me about Ron Paul. I have a 3-IQ.

Posted by: Noacoler | July 6, 2010 6:14 PM
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Corrected the typo.

Posted by: Brigade | July 6, 2010 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Tea Party = Republican party?

Ya think? Edward R. Murrow had nothing on you.
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Commentator Janeane Garofalo's well-received take on the teabaggers:

Janeane:

"Let's be very honest about what this is about. This is not about bashing Democrats. It's not about taxes. They have no idea what the Boston Tea Party was about. They don't know their history at all. It's about hating a black man in the White House. That is racism straight up. This is nothing but a bunch of teabagging rednecks.”

For good reason, Janeane opens her comedy act with:

"If there's any tea baggers here, welcome, and as always, white power."
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Look, to most, teabaggers waving misspelled n-word signs at rallies, carrying firearms to "protests," and spitting on black congressmen -- allegedly -- are not "conservative," they are RAY-CYSTS and BIG-UTZ.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | July 6, 2010 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Um, I'm a 34 year-old female independent libertarian who supports the Tea Party.

You folks who think the tea partiers are a bunch of old, white republican men are in for a shock. I can't WAIT for November...

Posted by: kate19 | July 6, 2010 7:37 PM | Report abuse

"Rubio will lose, Angle will lose and Paul may self destruct and lose. Gianoulis looks better against Kirk (fake bonafides), and maybe some surprises. DE is going GOP as well as FL (if Crist joins), I see a pickup of 4 Senate seats and 8 House hardly enough to stop a Dem majority. Posted by: jameschirico"

The R's lose Gregg's seat, Portman's Seat, Crist Caucusses with the D's and gets a plum seat, (The R's won't offer him anything at all) Tea People not nominated, and T-People nominated as republicans put a number of red states up for Dem take over.

Now, if the economy gets better, troops keep coming home from Iraq, People start using Health care because they can afford it, and the T-Party keeps branding its party, (the Republicans) as the party of T and frippary, I can see a DEMOCRATIC gain in both houses.

The Out Party USUALLY gains in these off year elections because, having gotten their heads handed to them, they screw their heads back on straight, change their approach, and pick off marginal seats that only barely changed hands.

So far the R's have decided that, having had their heads handed to them, they will use them as soccer balls and kick them around a bit.

Great tactics, what?

Posted by: ceflynline | July 6, 2010 7:37 PM | Report abuse

"The danger to America is not the Republican Party but a citizenry capable of entrusting them with political power. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of their disastrous policies and failures than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such incompetents and criminals as their leaders. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than the Republican Party, who are merely a symptom of what ails America. Blaming the emperors of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made them their emperors. The Republic can survive a Republican Party, which is, after all, merely a collection of fools. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made them their leaders."

Posted by: wilder5121 | July 6, 2010 7:36 PM | Report abuse

"The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency.
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Oh, I seeeeeeeeeeeeee, we're going to go after the voters now. Since the Republicans seem to be short 10 million voters who voted Democratic in 2008, this is your strategy? To criticize and demonize the voters you NEED to switch? This is like the Hannibal Lecter approach to politics--we'll just scare you to death.

You need to take a course in marketing if you think this is going to work.

Bwahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: 12BarBlues | July 6, 2010 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Armagedon should have wrote:

"The danger to America is not George W Bush but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Bush presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Bush, who is a mere symptom of what ails America. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a George W Bush, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president."

You have much better facts and record to back this up than your previous folly....

Posted by: dwdave67 | July 6, 2010 7:35 PM | Report abuse

"The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president."

Posted by: armagedon | July 6, 2010 7:28 PM | Report abuse

Of Course the tea partiers are the GOP. This movement was non-existant from 2001-2006 and in that time Bush Inc put two wars on the books, tax cuts for millionaires and continued outsourcing our jobs all on the Chinese credit card. These people are pawns of Dick Armey and the rest of the corpoartists in the GOP.

Posted by: dwdave67 | July 6, 2010 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Actually makes more sense to call them the
Pea Party.

Their motto.
Think Small
and
Thoughtless.

Posted by: godwithfire55 | July 6, 2010 7:25 PM | Report abuse

One more time, this idiot proves that he has the same IQ as the "Geographer laureate" (Barry Soetoro in the White House - you know the guy that has visited 56 or 57 States - just 3 left ). Same logic as the idiot 'liveride' who thinks the Tea Partiers are racist because they appear to be mainly White.

So here are some statistics. -95% of Blacks supported Barry for President (NO racism there, is there Chris - at least not in your warped mushhy brain). That leaves just 5% of 12.5% (percentage of Blacks) = 0.6245% of the population who are Black and NOT Barry supporters - that's 1 in 161. 10 in 1600+, 100 in see. But according to geniuses like our Chris here, that makes Tea Partiers racist.

Same logic for political support. The Tea Party movement is a grass roots movement which began in opposition to the socialist policies of this administartion. And idiot brain (if he has one) argues that the fact they support a Republican candidate over a Democratic one as proof they are just Republicans in disguise. I'd say your photo Chrsis is just proof that you are just a human in disuise. If I said you had the IQ of a turnip, I'd have to spend the next year of my life apologizing to root vegetables.

Do you really get paid to write this drivel??. And who actually pays to read this idiot newspaper. Oh ya, those morons in line waiting for their "Obama money - you know, from his stash".

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"The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president."

Posted by: armagedon | July 6, 2010 7:25 PM | Report abuse

"I take it that since only the GOP and the "tea baggers" support these, and that the KKK does, that the Democrats do not support them at all. Does this include these:- Put America FIRST in all foreign matters- Cut off trade with countries that refuse to establish strict environmental laws.- Put American troops on our border to STOP the flood of illegal aliens- Actively promote love and appreciation of our unique culture- Balance the budget- Rehabilitate our public school system.- Restoring individual freedom to America.- Everyone who can work should work- We support a return to parental authority without government interference in the raising of our children- We respect the right of homeowners and that no one should ever be forced from their home for the non payment of taxes- We advocate a strong defense department to safeguard American citizens- We support all U.S. veterans Posted by: gjconely"

This Democrat certainly disagrees with at least a few of them.

For instance: "Put America FIRST in all foreign matters"

Thanks to that fat headed attitude we got two wars we didn't need, we alienated mist of the rest of the world and as a result we are now considerably less safe and secure than we were before the Struttin' Stutterer took up that banner. We won the Cold War by working with our allies, not placing ourselves first in all foreign matters. Only a blithering idiot would accept that bit of malarkey.

"Put American troops on our border to STOP the flood of illegal aliens-" As much of a misuse of American Forces as Iraq was, this idea is vastly dumber. What morale is left in the Army would totally leave it if we were to task it with this idiotic mission. You want an Army guarding your border? Hire an Army of Border patrol Agents. Half a million Border patrol Agents wouldn't be able to seal the border, at a cost of perhaps $50 Billion a year. You might take a geography course and then carefully study the U.S./Mexican border before you propose this farce again.

"Actively promote love and appreciation of our unique culture-"

We don't have a culture, let alone a unique one. We have a store house of cultures we brought with us from all over the world. Because of that we have a rich store of cultural treasures to draw on. It has available Athenian Democracy and Belgian waffles and Cockney slang and danish pastries... and Zuni Dancers. All out there to use an enriching ur national experience.

"Everyone who can work should work-" But using taxes to provide them with jobs when good T-People have offshored their jobs isn't acceptable, is it?

"We support all U.S. veterans "

To which this veteran of eleven years service replies, "Like Hell You DO!"

Responding to the rest uses more than the 3000 characters I am allotted.

Posted by: ceflynline | July 6, 2010 7:23 PM | Report abuse

The original members of Tea Party movement strike me as being Goldwater Republicans, not a religious sect like the current Republican leadership.

Sad to say, Mr. Goldwater, were he alive, would be too liberal for the powers that be in the Republican party.

Posted by: Evilbear | July 6, 2010 7:22 PM | Report abuse

It's a long weekend birds. Let's settle in for a talk on the relative interest of Neitczhe.

Liberals read him, they just don' t understand him Otto.

I mean Ped.
i mean Neocolor.

spent the entire weekend blogging and discussing politics with his intellectual equals - macacaws and cats.

But they are really smart.

Comparatively..YES.

such is the life of an impotent loser, pineing for the day she can depart this souless country and head for communist heaven.

No water. no currency. no schools. No AC.

except at the gym.

Posted by: present-and-unaccounted-for | July 6, 2010 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Those teabaggers know how to throw a party. If they dress up in goofy colonial outfits when its not Halloween, you can imagine how over the top when they have an excuse to dress up.

Posted by: mikebythesun | July 6, 2010 7:19 PM | Report abuse

The Tea Party stands not for but against. They have no platform with Paul weak on defense, getting rid of social security or weakening it (Angle, Paul, Rubio), Ryan's medicare vouchers that cutoff care at $9800, weak on immigration Rubio or strong Angle, lower deficits but no administrator cuts nor new taxes. Cantor says cuts but does not say what ones he would choose to pay for unemployment extensions. Obama allows guns in Federal parks and the Tea Party treats him like Wyatt Earp in Dodge. He increases men in the Afghan theater, increases drone attacks by the nth degree and gets Pakistan to rid Swat valley, parts of the southwest from Taliban control, nor a major attack (no London, Madrid, Bali, 911) and he is called weak on terror with the softly big stick rhetoric. His failing are Goldman agents Bernanke/Geithner in charge of the Fed/Treas. letting small banks fall and big pay off their debts by withholding consumer credit (credit card balance expansion). Reid has been ineffective letting positions go unfilled and many House bills to languish. He did not improve on Pelosi's health care but wrote a poor substitute needing 3 votes to pass (Pelosi passed them in a week). Angle was Reid's choice and his guns were aimed from the primary wanting this colorful candidate with out there views.

Posted by: jameschirico | July 6, 2010 7:18 PM | Report abuse

jeepmanjr,

The Constitution is a SOCIAL contract. Like it or not, it was written to control a large population and keep the states from acting as independent nations. The Bill of Rights was written to ensure that even thought the original work is written for the masses, certain individual rights are respected.

We don't live in the wild west. We live in a highly populated nation, a nation where service from our population is essential to its success. Read a history book.

Posted by: pathfinder12 | July 6, 2010 7:17 PM | Report abuse

So the "data" shows that the Tea Baggers are the extreme right wing of an extreme right wing party. This is news to anyone??? Well I guess it fills column inches in the news-o-sphere which seems to be pretty well dumbed down these days.

Posted by: ScottFromOz | July 6, 2010 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Their puppett strings are not pulled by the RNC, but by FreedomWorks and other players of the far right. The latest wave of support for psycho candidates is the beginning of their downfall. Sharron Angle and Rand Paul are as low as a person can be outside of the psych hospitals or prisons.

Posted by: revbookburn | July 6, 2010 7:10 PM | Report abuse

screwjob17,

Once again a Republican uses poll numbers to show a pattern that just isn't there. Your statement that 42% of voters call themselves conservative and 20% call themselves liberal means nothing. The next question that is always asked is, who do you associate yourself with, Republicans or Democrats? Right now, polls still favor Democrats by 38% to about 30%.

Posted by: pathfinder12 | July 6, 2010 7:09 PM | Report abuse

"Their similar ideological makeup and views suggest that the Tea Party movement is more a rebranding of core Republicanism than a new or distinct entity on the American political scene," Gallup Poll director Frank Newport wrote in an analysis of the results..."

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Now all we have to do is find the people who started this propaganda machine...(Rove?) Doesn't it stink to high hell of Rovian tactics?

Posted by: swatkins1 | July 6, 2010 7:04 PM | Report abuse

I always like to make up a few dozen of those tricorn "patriot hats" and sell them for fifteen bucks a pop at Tea Baller rallies. Great way to make a little extra cash for beer and barbecue, and the tin foil I use to make them only costs a few dollars.

My beautiful tin foil hats always sell like hotcakes at Tea Baller rallies...and it's hilarious to see those laughable buffoons wearing them on the round-the-clock Fox "News" coverage.

Posted by: wilder5121 | July 6, 2010 7:04 PM | Report abuse

oh look ANOTHER zouk moniker.

What's this, shutterbug, like the twentieth? Thirtieth?

That's some life you got there

Posted by: Noacoler | July 6, 2010 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Rubio will lose, Angle will lose and Paul may self destruct and lose. Gianoulis looks better against Kirk (fake bonafides), and maybe some surprises. DE is going GOP as well as FL (if Crist joins), I see a pickup of 4 Senate seats and 8 House hardly enough to stop a Dem majority. Going to bat for BP, outrageous sites and quotes, saying our men can't win in Afghanistan, blocking everything including Wall St. reform will cost in Nov. The GOP could have had double the power with two steps to the left, taking two steps to the right lost the somewhat conservative middle. SCOTUS too has now written law from the bench in the Chicago gun law case. The Federal gov't should have no say in how a state regulates it's militia, it has been that way since our founding. While they made a pro gun ruling, they opened the door for the opposite too with a liberal court, it should never have been made. Saying corporations have individuals free speech also was overturning precedent but not as bad.

Posted by: jameschirico | July 6, 2010 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Teabaggers and white supremacists have always been the base of the GOP... DUH!!!

Posted by: demtse | July 6, 2010 6:59 PM | Report abuse

Two hours left to fill out your timecard Neocolor. Try to keep awake.

Posted by: present-and-unaccounted-for | July 6, 2010 6:55 PM | Report abuse


A lot of conservatives are conservative first and Republican second.

This poll comes as no surprise

Posted by: geo82170 | July 6, 2010 6:54 PM | Report abuse

"Sure. What about the media's portrayal of the tea party as racist? Lunatic? Fringe?"


And your point is?

Posted by: drindl | July 6, 2010 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Is there a direct link to "Loons R us"?

Paul the octopus SAYS "yes".

Posted by: present-and-unaccounted-for | July 6, 2010 6:53 PM | Report abuse

tea party = republicans with funny hats who feel sorta inadequate without a gun or two.

Posted by: AHappyWarrior | July 6, 2010 6:52 PM | Report abuse

diesel_skins_ writes:

"Data shows that media's portrayal of tea party as political free agents isn't right."

ANSWER: That is correct. They are the lunatic fringe of the Rethugtillian party.

Sure. What about the media's portrayal of the tea party as racist? Lunatic? Fringe?

ANSWER: Again, that is correct.

The media has been attacking the tea party relentlessly. Now you're pretending they're just average Republicans?

ANSWER: Reporting is not relentless attacks, it's reporting. Because you don't like what you see in the mirror does not mean it's not true. You're not average, from what I see you are very special.

Posted by: mjcc1987 | July 6, 2010 6:51 PM | Report abuse

It's pretty hard to have a serious discussion here when we have so many nutjobs screaming about socialism, which they clearly know nothing about.

Even harder given that the guy in the picture looks like such a complete dork. Like he was recruited from a tent in the weeds and given a new jacket and a hat and a promise of a "jug" if he took part in the "march."

Posted by: Noacoler | July 6, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

I think Neocolor has mother issues.

Posted by: present-and-unaccounted-for | July 6, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

The next marker for conservative power is August 28 at the Lincoln Memorial.

"Looks like Washington, DC, is going to be inundated with more than a million conservatives once again on August 28, 2010, because when Glenn Beck invites folks to join him, they come out big-time."
http://www.glennbeck.com/828/

And why August 28th, you might ask. Because it is the anniversary of Martin Luther King's I Have a Dream Speech at the foot of the Lincoln Memorial.

Words fail me.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | July 6, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Bad-mouth the Tea Party movement...go ahead. Sure, you Lib-Rats hate 'em. They represent everything you hate. You know, little government, respecting the constitution, to each man himself. They represent everything that terrifies you. And you know it's coming. Your court jester shenanigans have rousted the very folks who seldom concern themselves with politics. That's why we have the Tea Parties. And that's why you liberals and fence sitters are gonna pay. Hey...math so simple a liberal caveman could do it. So stop trying to define the Tea Party. If you're not a "native", you'll never understand!!

Posted by: jeepmanjr | July 6, 2010 6:46 PM | Report abuse

- Cut off trade with countries that refuse to establish strict environmental laws.

- Put American troops on our border to STOP the flood of illegal aliens

- Everyone who can work should work

- We respect the right of homeowners and that no one should ever be forced from their home for the non payment of taxes

None of the above goals/tenets are even slightly consistent with the Tea Party's beloved, all-knowing free market.

Posted by: StevenDolley | July 6, 2010 6:44 PM | Report abuse

OF CRSE TV IS OFF BASE....REASON BEING THY HOPE TO SHIFT PUBLIC OPINION TO THE REPUBS...THNK ABT IT FLKS....TV, NEWS, THE STATIONS THY R ALL CORPORTATE BUSINESS....Y IN HELL WOULD A COPR. BUSINESS DESIRE A DEM?...THY DON'T, SO THY R DOING THER BEST TO PERSUADE PUBLIC OPNION TO HOW THEY DESIRE IT....Y DO U THINK THER R A BUNCH OF STORIES ABT HOW THE WHTE MAN HAS NO FAITH IN OBAMA....XCEPT THESE PPL FORGET THT WHTES R A MINORITY OR SOON WILL BE BY 2020...SO REALLY THIS IS A SHFT FOR THEM, AND ALL THT THY R USED TOO....PERSONALLY I WONDER IF WE R NT THE ONES FKD UP TO KEEP PUTTING THESE ASSES IN OFFICE....NO?

EVERY YR THY BS US AND EVERY YER. WE BUY IT....MATTERS NOT FRM WHT PARTY....XCPT IF U BUY THE REPUB BS WE WILL BE LIVING IN 1653!!

BUZZARDSKORNER

Posted by: Hheeaatt | July 6, 2010 6:43 PM | Report abuse

"Data shows that media's portrayal of tea party as political free agents isn't right."

Sure. What about the media's portrayal of the tea party as racist? Lunatic? Fringe?

The media has been attacking the tea party relentlessly. Now you're pretending they're just average Republicans?

I think it's safer to write "Media's portrayal of media as politically unbiased isn't even freakin' close."

Posted by: diesel_skins_ | July 6, 2010 6:41 PM | Report abuse

We are trading intellectual dialog for anarchy. Everyone loses.

Posted by: TexasCynic1 | July 6, 2010 5:14 PM
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From one Texas Cynic to another ...

US Politics has always been one Pole short of a Bipolar Disorder. King George was not too fond of Smugglers and Slavers either. Some of the Tea Party are not conflicted by that, in contrast to all Republicans who should be conflicted by that.

Posted by: gannon_dick | July 6, 2010 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, i knew it from the start, that these Tea-partyers were nothing but, classic and closeted racist who demanded their "country back"
It is so good to know this early; that their real identity is being reveal. These folks are nothing but stumbling block to the administration, because of its policies to give relief to the average American, struggling to survive the everyday burden of hardship due to the recession.
Where were all these fiscal disciplinarian when the previous administration went on an intolerable spending spree, issuing big tax cuts and spending without remorse.
The American people are no more naive to be misled and misinformed y fools who hide under the guise and cloak of reforming the system.

Posted by: Muyenneh | July 6, 2010 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Works for me!

"Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of the party."

November can't come soon enough for me, but if I were a Democrat, I would want the elections to be held tomorrow, because it's only going to get worse between now and November....

(Did I say "worse?" I meant "better!")

Posted by: hoyatiger | July 6, 2010 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Riddle me this Dims.

Massachusetts is only 12% registered Republicans. If Democrats make up only 15% of tea party supporters and independents just 6% then how did Scott Brown beat Marsha Coakley by six or seven points? Hmm?

Rhetorical question; this is not a chat room and I am not going to be reading any of your posts.

Posted by: screwjob17

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Since the screwjob stated he will not respond I will take him at his word (he is too much of an idiot to bear having a discussion with him).

To everyone else... The answer is simple, first off Massachusetts is only one State out of 50 and the 15% is a national number so the screwjob is comparing apples to oranges. Second, Brown is a fairly moderate Senator and has voted with the Democrats in several key votes. He is not a KKK Tea Party idiot like the screwjob .

No wonder you do not want to respond to such an idiotic statement!

Posted by: rcc_2000 | July 6, 2010 6:35 PM | Report abuse

Tea Party = Republican Party? Big shock. It's been obvious from the beginning that Tea Ballers are just sore loser Republicans who are controlled and financed by GOP politicians and Big Insurance lobbyists. These groups find it easy to assemble these ragtag collections of misfits and screamers, because gullible poodles are always looking for a new cult to join.

Posted by: wilder5121 | July 6, 2010 6:32 PM | Report abuse

The TP and the GOP are one and the same? Well, I've been hoodwinked, bamboozled, lied to, I tell ya'!

Posted by: JohnBrown08 | July 6, 2010 6:31 PM | Report abuse

A wingnut by any other name is still a wingnut...and these Tea Baggers are as loopy as they come. Rand Paul? Sharron Angle? C'mon, people...be serious.

Posted by: Jerryvov | July 6, 2010 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Lincoln Memorial, August 28th - Be there!

Posted by: seawolfR | July 6, 2010 6:30 PM | Report abuse

I am glad that the guy in the picture got an opportunity to wear that coat and hat. Other than that he seems completely lost. But then that also validates him as a Tea Partier!

Posted by: kishorgala | July 6, 2010 6:29 PM | Report abuse

The Tea Party convention which was to be held July 15th was cancelled two weeks ago for lack of attendees. According to their organizers, the convention conflicted with family vacations, and some thought Las Vegas might be too hot. LOL. It was rescheduled for October, too late to organize for the midterms, but when the weather in Nevada will be acceptable. And these are warriors?

Now, this is the same Tea Party that kicked off earlier this year with Mrs. Palin speaking in Nashville.

The Tea Party is fizzling when they can't get it together to go to their OWN convention.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | July 6, 2010 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Wow, who'd a thunk it? The cranky old ignorant white racist Tea Party is mostly made up of republicans? Shocking!

Posted by: losthorizon10 | July 6, 2010 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Let the tea party take over the GOP; they are married already. Then let them lose elections because the bulk of Americans are centrists, not radical ideologues. The further we keep any GOP candidate from winning -- including dogcatcher -- the sooner we can restore freedom and liberty and rebuild America's strength.

Posted by: nick4 | July 6, 2010 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Let the tea party take over the GOP; they are married already. Then let them lose elections because the bulk of Americans are centrists, not radical ideologues. The further we keep any GOP candidate from winning -- including dogcatcher -- the sooner we can restore freedom and libery and rebuild America's strength.

Posted by: nick4 | July 6, 2010 6:26 PM | Report abuse

A wingnut by any other name is still a wingnut...and these Tea Baggers are as loopy as they come. Rand Paul? Sharron Angle? C'mon, people...be serious.

Posted by: Jerryvov | July 6, 2010 6:26 PM | Report abuse

The Post needs a study to tell them that the Teabaggers are Republicans. I bet they couldn't find their ahole with a search warrant and a map

Posted by: hilow | July 6, 2010 6:23 PM | Report abuse


Riddle me this Dims.

Massachusetts is only 12% registered Republicans. If Democrats make up only 15% of tea party supporters and independents just 6% then how did Scott Brown beat Marsha Coakley by six or seven points? Hmm?

Rhetorical question; this is not a chat room and I am not going to be reading any of your posts.

Posted by: screwjob17 | July 6, 2010 6:22 PM | Report abuse

hey, screwfool.

Check out the answers to the same poll in 2008, and see how people voted.

The poll measures the *popularity of words*, you idiot.

Posted by: Noacoler | July 6, 2010 6:21 PM | Report abuse

Most Democrats wouldn't be passionate about stopping all the tax and spending Obama has done and proposed, of course this group would be Republican at heart. The trouble for Democrats is that once members of their own party don't like all the socialism that has been created, they stop being Democrats.

Posted by: cbk1 | July 6, 2010 6:20 PM | Report abuse

What is more interesting to me is the TIMING of the Tea Party movement. If these are such "principled" people, why weren't they complaining when Bush was in office? After all, it was the previous administration that ran the economy into the ground, that proposed and first implemented the TARP, that dramatically increased the size of the federal government, that spent federal funds hand over fist, etc. etc. Why no complaining then??? Two reasons: 1) McCain and the GOP lost the 2008 election; and 2) Obama, a smart, articulate African-American, and the Dems won. So we have a movement based on two seemingly disparate groups: poor losers and racist bigots. In other words, today's GOP....

Posted by: mydog2 | July 6, 2010 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Tea Party activists are part of the Republican base, but not all of it.

They seem to be less intense about abortion, the traditional social issue hot button for GOP conservatives. They are much more intense about gun rights. They appear not to be interested in international trade liberalization at all, and reject entirely the Bush administration's position on immigration reform. They object to "bail-outs" of Wall Street and the auto companies, which they associate with President Obama even though the former was initiated by Bush's Treasury Secretary. They object to financial services reform, mostly because it is Obama who has proposed it.

In fact, a great deal of the steam behind the Tea Party movement is produced by antipathy for the leadership of the Democratic Party. This is typical for Republicans, but not for all Republicans. The absence of an agenda beyond opposition to Obama and the Democrats limits the Tea Party's appeal even within the GOP. So, it must be said, does an element of the Tea Party movement quite visible especially in Southern states that is especially antagonistic to Obama because of his race.

With all that said, the effect on large segments of the American public of the economic developments of the last three years shouldn't be underestimated. Many of the people, in the Tea Party and outside of it, who sound so angry now sound that way because they are scared in a way they were not five years ago. They don't want to stop only Obama's change, but all change -- because in their recent experience change has mostly been a bad thing.

Posted by: jbritt3 | July 6, 2010 6:17 PM | Report abuse

Gallup also published a poll last week reporting that 42% of voters call themselves "conservative" or "very conservative" while just 20% are any sort of liberal.

Sounds like quite a few Democrats are going to be voting Republican in the upcoming election.

Posted by: screwjob17 | July 6, 2010 6:17 PM | Report abuse

DUH.

Posted by: solsticebelle | July 6, 2010 6:15 PM | Report abuse

So grateful to see the Posties waking up to the fact that the Tea Party is just a Republican PR stunt that was covered as the Second Coming by Fox News. It is anything but a groundswell -- it's the same old stupid white male extremists who hate the United States and want to live in the stone age (or the closest thing -- maybe Idaho?)

I do think the Post and other national political reporters did a terrible disservice, however, by covering the Tea Party the way they did. This is a nasty John Bircher collection of people that should be ignored by responsible people on the Right and Left. The Republican Party ought to be treating these extremists as Bill Buckley did -- with distain and mostly not talking about them at all.

Posted by: tboyer33 | July 6, 2010 6:14 PM | Report abuse

I take it that since only the GOP and the "tea baggers" support these, and that the KKK does, that the Democrats do not support them at all. Does this include these:

- Put America FIRST in all foreign matters

- Cut off trade with countries that refuse to establish strict environmental laws.

- Put American troops on our border to STOP the flood of illegal aliens

- Actively promote love and appreciation of our unique culture

- Balance the budget

- Rehabilitate our public school system.

- Restoring individual freedom to America.

- Everyone who can work should work

- We support a return to parental authority without government interference in the raising of our children

- We respect the right of homeowners and that no one should ever be forced from their home for the non payment of taxes

- We advocate a strong defense department to safeguard American citizens

- We support all U.S. veterans

Posted by: gjconely | July 6, 2010 6:14 PM | Report abuse

The GOP should end its shameless pandering to minorities and drop all pretenses of inclusiveness. Rather it should rename itself the White Mans Revolutionary Party and rededicate itself to promoting the interest of the people and policies that have served the nation so well in the past. Let cries of "racism" fall on deaf ears as Blacks have their own political caucuses and Hispanics have LaRaza(the race). Whites that find such a suggestion abhorrent would face some difficult choices and find themselves politically disenfranchised by having at least two doors closed in their face, but the new party would emerge stronger without them.

Posted by: slim2 | July 6, 2010 6:14 PM | Report abuse

mibrooks, if you take anything coming from the Pauls seriously then your IQ has dropped through the floor since you were on here last.

Ron is an idiot, full stop, and Rand is a poo-flinger and nothing more.

I'm against free trade, but the TPs have been calling for an end to corporate taxes one minute, demanding a mile-high wall to keep out illegal aliens the next. They are incoherent. All that unifies them is anger and most of it its directed at the person of Barack Obama.

Don't tell me about Ron Paul. I have a 3-digit IQ.

Posted by: Noacoler | July 6, 2010 6:14 PM | Report abuse


Cillizza, Is this the White House talking point for today or is this a liberal Journolist talking point? "Disregard the Tea Party, they're just Republicans."

The liberals, such as yourself, like to deceive the public to have them believe these poll results are from Tea Party MEMBERS. But you consistently use the term Tea Party SUPPORTERS. Much the same that the WaPo/CBS poll some months ago said that the Tea Party is made up of highly educated male Republicans. That poll cited only 13% of the over 40% polled as actually being Tea Party MEMBERS, othe others were Tea Party SUPPORTERS. But don't let the truth get in the way.

Tea Party members are Independents, Democrats, Libertarians and Republicans. A lot of Tea Party MEMBERS I know are actually Independents who were formerly Democrats and those who ARE Democrats.

What Obama and the Democrats in Congress are doing affects ALL Americans not just Republicans.

Cillizza, your hoping to persuade readers to dismiss the Tea Party movement as irrelevant and just a wing of the GOP.

Wrong! You know it and we know it.

And we'll see how irrelevant the Tea Party movement is in the fall elections. See you in November!

Posted by: janet8 | July 6, 2010 6:09 PM | Report abuse

tea bags are a bunch of white racists like tiger woods.

Posted by: EdSantaFe | July 6, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

News flash - the Teabaggers are Republican activitists. And water is wet!

How pathetic that the media needs to rely on a poll to figure this out. Any journalist worth his or her salt could have followed the money trail starting with Dick Armey's astroturf organization FreedomWorks to know who was really behind these people.

And as if the fact that Fox News, Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck were providing 24/7 free advertising for this "Party" wasn't a dead giveaway.

Posted by: sambam | July 6, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

battleground51 wrote:
There it is in a big nutshell.

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And only kkkonservatives could write an oxymoron like this.

Posted by: simonleonard | July 6, 2010 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Noacoler
Do some reading. What caught my attention about the Tea Party were some remarks from the Paul's. They, and the Tea Party as a whole, are anti-free trade. They actually call for the use of punitive taxes on investments, trade tariffs, and duties to end it. Go look it up! Now, there is a lot of right wing claptrap they by, too, that I cannot stomach, but they appear to be the first genuinely populist movement this country has seen in 50 years and they ARE NOT beholden to either major party. For their different reason, left wing fanatics like he Post editorial board and staff writers want to kill it dead, so they publish outlandish and dishonest rubbish about it. The Republican's, on the other hand, play down the populism, anti-free trade, and anti-corporate message and are doing everything in their power to rid the movement of party leaders who are genuine populists. I have no idea of how it will all turn out, but we need to have the intellectual integrity to actually observe rather than engage as partisan's in the Fox vs. Post-NYT food fight. In the end, as far as our economic future goes, neither party, and certainly not Fox or the Post or NYT, represents us. They will be as dishonest as we permit them to be. So, don't let them!

Posted by: mibrooks27 | July 6, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse

And this is exactly why the TEA PARTY people are so despised and slandered by the liberal Democrats and their vast, liberal, propaganda machine which includes the Washington Post and all its smarmy, Democrat activists trying to pass themselves off as serious, unbiased reporters.

There it is in a big nutshell.

Posted by: battleground51 | July 6, 2010 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Could You as a Patriot Imagine being considered a Hay-Rake? - How SAD that some of Our U.S. Citizens ARE!!

Posted by: jward52 | July 6, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

mibrooks2 is absolutely right! The Tea Party is much more in line with the KKK platform.

See for yourself http://www.kkk.bz/program.htm

Posted by: rcc_2000
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ENLIN wITH kkK BIRD. (NOW dead)

Posted by: leapin | July 6, 2010 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Hey - rcc_200, that was a good question,

On a quick glance, I note that 6 of the 28 to be equal to what the Tea Party puts on their website:

A better question, how many of the 15 core beliefs of the tea party are similar to the KKK?

In this case it's 6 out of 15.

HTH!

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Posted by: thomp | July 6, 2010 5:55 PM | Report abuse

mibrooks2 wrote: Hogwash! Take a look at the #1 issue for virtually every Tea Party member! It's ending job outsourcing and doing away with free trade. That stands in stark contrast with both major parties, all of their representatives being free trade fanatics. Please, can someone tell me the difference between Obama and Bush? Between either of them and Clinton? There isn't any. Now, I have no idea if the Tea Party will evolve into some sort of Nazi right wing movement or simply fade away due to the constant attacks from both the left and right wing media. For now, if appears to be a disorganized but genuinely populist movement that has lots of Republican operatives claiming to speak for it, with the GOP pouring money in and hoping to transform it into and it's members into Republican's. But, from everything I can see, Tea Party members loathe the Republican Party's leadership every bit as much as the loathe the Democratic Party's leadership.

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mibrooks2 is absolutely right! The Tea Party is much more in line with the KKK platform.

See for yourself http://www.kkk.bz/program.htm

Posted by: rcc_2000 | July 6, 2010 5:54 PM | Report abuse

This article is a load of liberal hooey. I interpret data for a living, and have done so for 30 years. This article started out with liberal bias and ends as the same. Nice try Washington Post, but your pals are going to be booted out by a grass roots movement of independents, conservatives, and yes, disappointed liberals. You can check that data after Nov. 4, even as you try to sway public opinion with your front-page editorials dressed up as News Analysis.

Say what you will WaPo. We The People are ignoring you just like we're ignoring your cozy friends in the Obama Administration.

Posted by: JHG_sec405 | July 6, 2010 5:54 PM | Report abuse

"Seriously, CC, you're a professional political analyst. It's pathetic that you couldn't figure this out on your own. (The alternate explanation, that CC never does any real analysis and only reports on the results of polls, is equally pathetic.)"

Posted by: Blarg

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CC's ineptitude was evident a long time ago. He's got a sugar-daddy in management somewhere.

Posted by: bigbrother1 | July 6, 2010 5:53 PM | Report abuse

It never ceases to amaze how this country has come this far, and how the Republican Party has lagged behind in practically every area, which explains why the GOP treats their voters like their stupid.

(They are.)


Posted by: lindalovejones
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Posted by: leapin | July 6, 2010 5:53 PM | Report abuse


TO: yipeakia who wrote:
“The president has revealed himself as a demagogue, and a left wing idealist who believes big government and a welfare state is the way to get votes…”

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

You should know by now that ALL of the welfare states are solidly Republican.

Republican refusal to take their own credit for their own work never stops.

Republicans just constantly screw up and blame others, screw up and blame others, screw up and blame others, screw up and blame others, screw up and blame others, screw up and blame others, screw up and blame others, screw up and blame others, screw up and blame others, screw up and blame others, screw up and blame others, screw up and blame others, screw up and blame others, screw up and blame others, screw up and blame others, screw up and blame others, screw up and blame others, screw up and blame others, so they must be f---ing up all the dang gone time.


Posted by: lindalovejones
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wE DONE GOT ThoSE PROgRESIVES RUNNING tHANGS HERE FOR THE lAST 50 YREARS. oUR =SCHOLLS RUN BY dEMONCRATS. kIDS CAN HARDLY RED.

Posted by: leapin | July 6, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Tea Party is to conservatives what intelligent design is to creationism.

Euphemisms.

Posted by: simonleonard | July 6, 2010 5:49 PM | Report abuse

TO: mibrooks27 who wrote:
“Hogwash! Take a look at the #1 issue for virtually every Tea Party member! It's ending job outsourcing and doing away with free trade…”

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Well, when did all that change?

The Tea Baggers have been giving everyone the distinct impression that their #1 issue was getting the black guy out of the White House.

Take a look at some of these posts, they think this is back in slavery days when they used to heckle minorities to death and constantly ridicule them.

This is 2010 Tea Baggers, and no one is going to be bullied or heckled out of anything.

It never ceases to amaze how this country has come this far, and how the Republican Party has lagged behind in practically every area, which explains why the GOP treats their voters like their stupid.

(They are.)


Posted by: lindalovejones | July 6, 2010 5:48 PM | Report abuse

@mibrooks: nonsense. The TPs are politically incoherent and if anything they are championing "economic freedom," since it's the corporations who're picking up the tab for the beer and the buses.

The TPers would castrate themselves if their corporate masters told them liberals wouldn't like it.

This is YOUR issue, and mine, but you're projecting here.

As for the looming economic calamity you were Chicken Littleing about last week, you were making the same prediction a year ago, and it was supposed to have happened by now. It's always in the near future .. just like the great backlash against liberalism that Republicans keep forecasting.

Posted by: Noacoler | July 6, 2010 5:48 PM | Report abuse

the one useful thing out of all of this - it has helped us identify those media outlets who by virtue of "All Tea Party All The Time" have outed themselves as irrelevant shills and useful idiots of the GOP.

Here's looking at you, Cillizza.

Posted by: hohandy | July 6, 2010 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Last week, as is their annual tradition, National Public Radio read the Declaration of Independence on the air, with different reporters reading pieces of it. For those that don't know, a good portion of the DoI is a list of grievences against King George and the Brits. As I was listening to this, I was thinking about the Tea Baggers using the "Don't Tread On Me" slogan and flag from Revolutionay days, and thinking just how ridiculous this is. While I'm not fond of many things Obama is doing (or in some cases, NOT doing, such as getting out of Afghanistan), these baggers should be embarrassed that they are degrading the meaning of those slogans and symbols of the Revolution. Has Obama quartered any troops at their houses lately without their consent? Removed properly elected officials from office because he didn't like them? Levied a tax on anyone with absolutely no representation?

In a representative democracy, disagreeing with the elected majority is NOT akin to being oppressed by a royal and his empire. Not only are these baggers ignorant of history, they are mocking 18th century American Patriots with their disgruntled whining hidden behind symbols that were originally used by a truly oppressed bunch of intelligent and determined colonists looking to start something completely new and revolutionary on so many levels.

Posted by: PrairieDog60 | July 6, 2010 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Now time to use the new terms to truly analyze the November election.

To change the direction the voters took in 2008 and 2010, the R-s have to find new voters or change the minds of old voters.

Polls currently being taken look statistically valid, but can't actually be all that accurate. Typical poll samples are on the order of 1500 respondents, from which the press tries to extrapolate national trends. That comes out to about four respondents per congressional district, or 30 respondents per state, far too small a sample to be meaningful. Given that Congressional districts have at least 500,000 people in them, at least half of whom are of voting age, .1% of the voters in a district, ( a rather small sample) would be 250 voters, and nation wide that would be a sample of more than a million respondents.

So the republican resurgence Template is really working on appearances, and the mirage that has been being used to flesh out that appearance is the "Energy" of the "New Party", the T-Party.

Since the T-Party is basically the subset of republicans who are f-PPC, shading a little into f-PC, and are mostly already motivated voters, their noise and motion is really a distraction from real political motion that is taking place. Still, the T-Faction of the R's are very busy cutting the throats of established Republican f-PPC's and f-PC-s who currently hold what ought to be safe seats. When these strident f-PPC's and f-PC's alienate all the ex f-Ms, f-Ps, and almost all the former and remaining f-IC's, they won't have much left to count on in the general election. Those poor republican souls thrown into the darkness outside, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth may quit weeping, quit gnashing their teeth, and frind another abode. Meanwhile they may just stay home, or vote independent, or, in spite, vote democratic, assuaging their consciences by rationalizing THIS landslide as setting the table for 2012 for the Republicans.

Posted by: ceflynline | July 6, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

The "Tea Party" is not identical to the Republican Party, despite this poll profile. It is the creation a largely successful political PR campaign aimed at capturing media attention and driving the wounded Republican Party hard right to seek a way back to power, once again, through the politicking of hate, fear, insecurity and resentment. In sum, a not very surprising direction and movement within a party that has achieved national power only through variations on the "Southern Strategy" for the last half century.

Posted by: washpost29 | July 6, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

TO: yipeakia who wrote:
“The president has revealed himself as a demagogue, and a left wing idealist who believes big government and a welfare state is the way to get votes…”

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

You should know by now that ALL of the welfare states are solidly Republican.

Republican refusal to take their own credit for their own work never stops.

Republicans just constantly screw up and blame others, screw up and blame others, screw up and blame others, screw up and blame others, screw up and blame others, screw up and blame others, screw up and blame others, screw up and blame others, screw up and blame others, screw up and blame others, screw up and blame others, screw up and blame others, screw up and blame others, screw up and blame others, screw up and blame others, screw up and blame others, screw up and blame others, screw up and blame others, so they must be f---ing up all the dang gone time.


Posted by: lindalovejones | July 6, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Hogwash! Take a look at the #1 issue for virtually every Tea Party member! It's ending job outsourcing and doing away with free trade. That stands in stark contrast with both major parties, all of their representatives being free trade fanatics. Please, can someone tell me the difference between Obama and Bush? Between either of them and Clinton? There isn't any. Now, I have no idea if the Tea Party will evolve into some sort of Nazi right wing movement or simply fade away due to the constant attacks from both the left and right wing media. For now, if appears to be a disorganized but genuinely populist movement that has lots of Republican operatives claiming to speak for it, with the GOP pouring money in and hoping to transform it into and it's members into Republican's. But, from everything I can see, Tea Party members loathe the Republican Party's leadership every bit as much as the loathe the Democratic Party's leadership.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | July 6, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Duh. Tea partiers being conservative repubs. That is a given, anyone with a brain could see that {of course there are less people with working brains than we want to admit}. This the repubs base support. Gun carrying, big government scorners, tight wads who could care less about anyone but themselves.

Posted by: mythsdreams | July 6, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse

No surprises here. The Tea party are essentially the same old conservative Republicans with just a new name and new brand. That's why most people aren't buying this load of crap. If they really cared about this country then we would have been hearing about their concerns well before Obama even became President, but instead they were totally silent. It doesn't take a genius to figure out why that was the case. If you like emotionally charged incoherent noise then the Tea Party is for you, but if you want thoughtful pragmatic solutions to difficult problems then one should definitely look elsewhere.

Posted by: JKJ88 | July 6, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Long ago a graduate student friend of mine had a stamp made for student papers that
hashed overdone concepts:

KGO Keen Grasp of the Obvious:

TeaPartyers are Republicans

Posted by: canaldoc | July 6, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

The president has revealed himself as a demagogue, and a left wing idealist who believes big government and a welfare state is the way to get votes. He's a snake oil salesman, promising cures for anthing that ails you, education, healthcare, jobs, what ever you need. But as time goes on his incompetence is being exposed. Day after day he wastes money, he's slow to respond, lacks leadership, and doesn't even understand that his policies are making things worse. He thinks lip service and speeches still work. What Obama says doesn't matter any more, it goes in one ear and other the other. People are ready for change again and will definately be voting in November.

Posted by: yipeakia | July 6, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

The president has revealed himself as a demagogue, and a left wing idealist who believes big government and a welfare state is the way to get votes. He's a snake oil salesman, promising cures for anthing that ails you, education, healthcare, jobs, what ever you need. But as time goes on his incompetence is being exposed. Day after day he wastes money, he's slow to respond, lacks leadership, and doesn't even understand that his policies are making things worse. He thinks lip service and speeches still work. What Obama says doesn't matter any more, it goes in one ear and other the other. People are ready for change again and will definately be voting in November.

Posted by: yipeakia | July 6, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

TO: TheBabeNemo who wrote;
“Of course the tea party is comprised of mainly conservative Republicans.
It's very white middle class…”

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

They’re what?

Who would’a thunk the “middle class” could be that ignorant.

I would expect racism to come from low class trash, but huh, who would have ever thought that the “white middle class” would be going that far down hill after all this time.

I would have never thought that.

Posted by: lindalovejones | July 6, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Exactly what (TF) is a Coset Homosexual?

Posted by: sasquatchbigfoot
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It is something typed by a cretinous buffoon who is jealous that other people are doing what he wants to do.

Funny how these people that want to get the government "out of our business" are so eager to stick their fat noses in other people's business. They seem fascinated with other people's sex lives. Maybe if they got one of their own, they could leave everyone else alone.

Posted by: xconservative | July 6, 2010 5:33 PM | Report abuse

The president has revealed himself as a demagogue, and a left wing idealist who believes big government and a welfare state is the way to get votes. He's a snake oil salesman, promising cures for anthing that ails you, education, healthcare, jobs, what ever you need. But as time goes on his incompetence is being exposed. Day after day he wastes money, he's slow to respond, lacks leadership, and doesn't even understand that his policies are making things worse. He thinks lip service and speeches still work. What Obama says doesn't matter any more, it goes in one ear and other the other. People are ready for change again and will definately be voting in November.

Posted by: yipeakia | July 6, 2010 5:33 PM | Report abuse

The president has revealed himself as a demagogue, and a left wing idealist who believes big government and a welfare state is the way to get votes. He's a snake oil salesman, promising cures for anthing that ails you, education, healthcare, jobs, what ever you need. But as time goes on his incompetence is being exposed. Day after day he wastes money, he's slow to respond, lacks leadership, and doesn't even understand that his policies are making things worse. He thinks lip service and speeches still work. What Obama says doesn't matter any more, it goes in one ear and other the other. People are ready for change again and will definately be voting in November.

Posted by: yipeakia | July 6, 2010 5:33 PM | Report abuse

This whole ginned-up "phenomenon" is a case study in the gullibility and ease of manipulation of the mainstream media. This was cooked up by Fox news and right wingers desperate to stop the momentum of the Democratic party. So, as with similar movements in the past, they seized on a bunch of populist mumbo jumbo, began waving the flag hard, incorporated code language and Nationalist fervor, and started ranting.

Meanwhile, the media -- with a fun, shiny object being swung before its eyes, can't WAIT to lap it all up, hype it, "analyze it." What's more fun than showing a bunch of crazies waving provocative signs?

The fat cat conservatives, the usual suspects, just sit back and chuckle at it all. How easy it is!

It's truly disheartening -- and frightening.

Posted by: monk4hall | July 6, 2010 5:33 PM | Report abuse

The GOP-Tea Party connection is pretty obvious. My question is is the Tea Party-KKK connection. Below is the KKK Platform lets see how many items we can attribute as a Tea Party characteristic.

1 The recognition that America was founded as a Christian nation

2 The recognition that America was founded as a White nation

3 Repeal the NAFTA and GATT treaties.

4 Put America FIRST in all foreign matters

5 Stop all Foreign Aid Immediately

6 Cut off trade with countries that refuse to establish strict environmental laws.

7 Abolish ALL discriminatory affirmative action programs

8 Put American troops on our border to STOP the flood of illegal aliens

9 Abolish all anti-gun laws and encourage every adult to own a weapon

10 Actively promote love and appreciation of our unique European (White) culture

11 Outlaw the purchase of American property and industry by foreign corporations and investors.

12 Drug testing for welfare recipients

13 Repeal the Federal Reserve Act.

14 Balance the budget

15 Rehabilitate our public school system.

16 A flat income tax should be introduced to allow for the funding of community, state and federal projects.

17 Abortion should be outlawed except to save the mother's life or in case of rape or incest.

18 We support the death penalty for those convicted of molestation and rape

19 We support a national law against the practice of homosexuality

20 We support the placing of all persons HIV positive into national hospitals

21 Restoring individual freedom to Christian America.

22 We support the voluntary repatriation of everyone not satisfied with living under White Christian rules of conduct back to the native lands of their people

23 Everyone who can work should work

24 We support a return to parental authority without government interference in the raising of our children

25 We respect the right of homeowners and that no one should ever be forced from their home for the non payment of taxes

26 We support state sovereignty resolution

27 We advocate a strong defense department to safeguard American citizens

28 We support all U.S. veterans

Posted by: rcc_2000 | July 6, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Uh, zouk? Parrots are quiet at night. In fact only nightingales call in the dark.

Dummy.

Posted by: Noacoler | July 6, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Now that it's clear that the Tea Party is just the Republican Party wearing funny hats, why devote so much attention to them?

Finally, "proof" of what most of us knew all along.

Posted by: chi-town | July 6, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if the Post issued and Extra edition to report this unexpected turn of events?

READ ALL ABOUT IT, TEABAGGERS ARE REPUBLICANS.

What a scoop!

Funny, with all the corporate money behind these people (paying for the keg, of course) you'd think it's be possible to stage just ONE photo that didn't make them look like *cough* a retirement home for Hell's Angels out for one last *cough* ride.

Posted by: Noacoler | July 6, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

All I can say to the Fix article by Chris is ...

Duh.

Isn't it obvious you MSM types got suckered by a bunch of Traitorous Liars?

I mean, that's what comrades in the Republicant Party of No are. They and their fellow travelers hate America and our Middle Class way of life.

Posted by: WillSeattle | July 6, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

This may have been obvious from the start but now they have the data to back up that initial assertion. Kudos to the author for getting more data.

Posted by: Aerowaz | July 6, 2010 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Exactly what (TF) is a Coset Homosexual?

Posted by: sasquatchbigfoot | July 6, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Ravenmocker -

You sure are big on homoerotic language...anything you want to tell us (not that there is anything wrong with that)?

Posted by: popopo | July 6, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Ped.

Tell us something you didn't learn in an all night shouting match with the birds. Who, by the way are clearly smarter than you.

Posted by: Moonbat | July 6, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

First, now that the Washington Post is finally figuring out the "Tea Party" isn't a fringe organization, my question is simple: Why did it take you so long to figure this out, and why did you try to marginalize the "Tea Party" with your enflamatory articles?


Second, now that the Washington Post has settled on an identity for the Republican Party, and the "Tea Party," can we now move on to the Democratic Party?


Democratic Party = Closet Socialists? Closet Communists? Coset Homosexuals? Closet Environmental Fascists?

Posted by: Indpnt1 | July 6, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Ped.

Tell us something you didn't learn in an all night shouting match with the birds. Who, by the way are clearly smarter than you.

Posted by: Moonbat | July 6, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

No kidding! Those tea party people ... well, it turns out that they are mostly right wing Republicans!! Who would have thought that???

Finally, the story (or should I say facts) is catching up to the media sensation. One has to worry ... it seems to take longer and longer to get past the hype and to the substance.

Posted by: erickoe | July 6, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Um. Duh.

Posted by: monk4hall | July 6, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

No kidding! Those tea party people ... well, it turns out that they are mostly right wing Republicans!! Who would have thought that???

Finally, the story (or should I say facts) is catching up to the media sensation. One had to worry ... it seems to take longer and longer to get past the hype and to the substance.

Posted by: erickoe | July 6, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

They may be the Republican base but are they actually Republicans? More like big tent Republican water boys who carry the bucket (vote for Republican). Real Republicans are six figure income people, not a bunch of pew warmers from Alabama.

Posted by: timothy2me | July 6, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

I've heard rumors that Tea Baggers can be identified as having a large gap in the middle of their skulls on X-rays.

Posted by: sasquatchbigfoot | July 6, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

This just in: KKK=GOP

Posted by: kurthunt | July 6, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse


Of course the tea party is comprised of mainly conservative Republicans.

It's very white middle class.

They are more community organizers than anything else.
Give the white middle class a bandwagon or "the great cause" to go for.....and
they will go for it.

If you build the bandwagon, they will come.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | July 6, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Nice to have another data point confirming what other polls have already shown and what everyone already knew: Teabaggers are old, white Republicans - the same people who cheered for Bush's deficits and wild spending.

The Republican "teabaggers are diverse" meme will now go the way of the "Fox News is objective" meme. Soon to be followed by the "Rasmussen is reliable" meme.

Posted by: ravenmocker | July 6, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

It's really embarrassing that this fact even had to be printed in a newspaper.

This was obvious from the start.

Posted by: hoos3014 | July 6, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

The saddest thing about the Tea Party is that it's members seem unaware that they are being manipulated. They have become the pawns of public discourse. Taxes appear an issue for the white boomer affluent in the group, but the most vocal and visible appear to voice the rage of racism, admonishing a non-white President, divisive polarization based on the (post-Christ) Christian Right, and fear as they speedily race toward the fascism seemingly influenced by Bush/Cheney/Rush/Glen/Palin/etc, and not unlike the manner which created the world's most destructive regime, a very white conservative Christian, Nazi Germany.

There is no doubt that this country has the best government that big money can buy and therefore in dire need of public rather than corporate involvement. The solution is to correct the corruption of the system rather than to destroy what we all share. Yet the Party of No plays political puffery yielding no ideas, no solutions, and no future. We are trading intellectual dialog for anarchy. Everyone loses.

Posted by: TexasCynic1 | July 6, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

I share the tea-baggers' concern about the national debt. I wish they would have spoken up while Dubya was maxing out the nation's credit card.

Why didn't they?? Cause what they're rreally mad about is that we have a black president. That's why. Bunch a racists is all they are.

Posted by: kurthunt | July 6, 2010 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: JAH3

MoveOn.org & ACLU = Democratic Party
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What is your point?? I don't think there is a single person out there that would disagree. The interesting thing though is how your right-wing boy Limbaugh used the ACLU to beat a drug charge. i am surprised the Tea Baggers haven't revolted against Limbaugh!!

Posted by: SteelWheel25 | July 6, 2010 5:13 PM | Report abuse

duh.... who didn't know this?

it's the same old blab from the gop with the new "banner" wrapped around the same old garbage. it still doesn't make any sense no mater what nutbag the gop has saying it.

Posted by: EdSantaFe | July 6, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

FlowersOfPeace AKA 37th spamming the board with off-topic rants AGAIN.

Posted by: JRM2 | July 6, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

And the sons of kkk'ers and the sons of racist peers
ride their fathers magic carpet made of hate

Posted by: pvogel88 | July 6, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Another recent poll reveals that over 95% of Teabaggers are a**clowns.

Posted by: sonny2 | July 6, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Linda, please read my post a little more carefully, I don't believe for a moment that the TP uh people are any more than angry racists whose lives are flashing before their eyes because the president is black. They're politically incoherent, uneducated, short on brains, and they can't spell.

There have been claims that minorities take part in the rallies. I'm not buying it. I'd want to see more than a token .. in a country as big as this one you can find just about anything .. Jews who worship Jesus, gay homophobes, and no doubt there a few Clarence Thomas type self-loathing blacks, doesn't prove a thing.

Posted by: Noacoler | July 6, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

All those suprised by this stand on your head.

Posted by: kchses1 | July 6, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

MoveOn.org & ACLU = Democratic Party

Posted by: JAH3 | July 6, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

@ceflynline,

I love your analysis of the degree of change tolerated in the conservative movement (somewhere between repeal change,
to no change,
to almost no change).

It's like a Logic course in conservatism.

So the idea of change is a "no go".

Like the building is burning down around us, let's change our present location. NO.

Like here comes the tsunami. Let's change our present location. NO.

Like we've lost the last two elections. Let's change our platform to be more attractive. NO.

No wonder it's called the Party of NO.
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I look forward to more detail on conservative Logic.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | July 6, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Wow ! what a surprise. The "Teapartiers" are Republicans".

The next thing you know we'll find out that the world is round !

Posted by: WESHS49 | July 6, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

"...The tea party is a spontaneous grass roots movement comprised of democrats, republicans, white, black, Latino and Asian members..." Posted by: lindalovejones

Understated irony is always risky business on these blogs, especially the fix where zany sarcasm and total insanity are mostly indistinguishable.

Posted by: ceflynline | July 6, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

The Tea Partiers were trying to convince the public otherwise, but we all knew they were simply an offshoot of the Republican party--the really paranoid and unreasonable branch--but GOP-ers nonetheless.

Posted by: jaynashvil | July 6, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Everybody knows that the Tea Baggers are just a bunch of poor, old, red necks who can't stand the fact that we have our 1st Black President in the White House.

We saw exactly who the Tea Baggers are when they first started rounding themselves up.

It amounted to about 12 hillbillies standing on the grass, carrying pistols.

Now they've turned into a pack of hillbilly red necks carrying pistols.


Posted by: lindalovejones | July 6, 2010 4:59 PM | Report abuse

"One would think that after the 2006 and 2008 elections that conservatives would have re-thought their policies but instead they swung harder to the right and doubled-down on the policies that got us to where we are now. Posted by: JRM2"

One might, except that what is left of the R's are f-PPCs and f-PCs, and the required change would make them f-ICs and they Hate f-ICs, perhaps even more than they hate the concepts that would be held by Republican f-Ms and f-Ps if there were any left in the party.
Losing the last two elections worse than their low expectations hasn't motivated them. And Brigade will pop up and tell you, "2008 and 2010, its only two elections." The reminiscence of the Spirit of KoZ will be saying "2008, 2010,2012, 2014, 2016? its only six elections, why change?" in 2018.

When you are f-PC, you can't change because it would mean that you are wrong, (not acceptrable) and that you were willing to change (if being wrong is unacceptable to a f-PCer, being willing to change is double plus ungooder wrong.)

Posted by: ceflynline | July 6, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Tea Party = Republican party?
=================================
As Chris Matthews would put it:

"Tell me something I don't know."

Posted by: kishorgala | July 6, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

The conclusion is that the embittered Republican base, who now march around in tricorner hats, is off the Republican reservation. And the R. establishment is worried.

The TP booted R. Charlie Crist in Florida to nominate one of their own, Marco Rubio. Now, the polls have Crist ahead of Rubio, with Crist increasing momentum.

Ditto Kentucky and Nevada. The TP candidates are winning the primaries, but they don't look that good in the general election.

It was predictable that the R. base would try to seize the reins of power from the R. establishment. Now that they have the reins, what are they going to do?

Posted by: 12BarBlues | July 6, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

TEA PARTY A FRONT FOR RIGHT-WING GRASSROOTS, FED-FUNDED COMMUNITY-BASED EXTREMISM?

It seems to me that"Tea Party" adherents are the same types who have co-opted federally-funded "community watch" programs such as InfraGard and Citizen Corps to conduct legally suspect, ideologically-driven, police-protected grassroots campaigns of social cleansing and persecution:

http://nowpublic.com/world/gestapo-usa-govt-funded-vigilante-network-terrorizes-america
http://nowpublic.com/world/u-s-silently-tortures-americans-cell-tower-microwaves
OR NowPublic.com/scrivener (lede articles and links therein)

Posted by: scrivener50 | July 6, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

flowersofpeace you are a brain dead idiot. Asleep for 8 years. Why don't you go fight in Iraq or Afganistan. You repukes are sick. If you wanted to impeach anyone it should have been that moron w for torture. Let me waterboard you you blithering fool.

Posted by: davidsawh | July 6, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

The Corporate Media continues to confuse the lunatic fringe Teabaggers with new voters. They're not new voters, they're the hardcore Republican base nuts.


They're the same far right wing whackjobs who thought Bush Jr was still doing a heckuva job when he left office in 2008. The only thing that has changed is they realized that they had already trashed the Republican brand name during the Bush years so they rebranded themselves as "Teabaggers" and falsely claimed to be Independents. They're not, and their votes this fall (Republican) are already accounted for.


The whack-a-doodle Republican base nuts can pretend that they're a new political movement and the corporate media can continue to lap it up, but the bottom line is that they just slapped some lipstick on a tea bag and called it a revolution.

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Posted by: DrainYou | July 6, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

"...The tea party is a spontaneous grass roots movement comprised of democrats, republicans, white, black, Latino and Asian members..."
__________

Well, I don't know any Democrats or minorities that would either want to be any part of a racist group like the Tea Baggers, nor do I know of any Tea Baggers who'd want any Democrats or minorities in their group.

I don't suppose you've noticed how angry Tea Baggers are, or how they talk about Democrats, the President, and how they say minorties are lazy and they're all on welfare.

Even if invited, I know of no Democrat who even be interested in being cornered in a room with a bunch of gun toting, bible thumping racists.

Posted by: lindalovejones | July 6, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

This threat is going to be an excuse for the leftists to mischaracterize the tea party - and make sexual slurs.


Watch how the leftists act.

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Posted by: FlowersOfPeace | July 6, 2010 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Free Lunch Dbagger Party = Democratic Party

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: leapin | July 6, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

And it took the mainstream media this long to figure this out? Where are the mea culpas?

Journalism now seems built purely on the old National Enquirer model. You're all just newswhores now.

Posted by: rogied25 | July 6, 2010 4:43 PM | Report abuse

J. Christian Adams has just accused Obama and Eric Holder of purposely failing to equally enforce the nation's laws based on a racial bias.

This is an IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE.

Obama's impeachable offenses keep on piling up.

Obama is beginning to make Nixon look like a choir boy.

Seriously folks, this kind of stuff is COMPLETELY OUT OF BOUNDS - OBAMA AND HIS PEOPLE HAVE BEN OUT OF BOUNDS FOR A LONG TIME NOW.

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Posted by: FlowersOfPeace | July 6, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

The strange thing about their turning the page on Obama is that Obama has, for the most part, just been running with the Bush/Cheney playbook thus far. Very little has changed in how we are conducting ourselves in the world - especially in regard to Iraq and Afghanistan. Obama has spent a lot of money, but mostly to ward off the worst of the recession and to avoid slipping into a great depression (which is still a possibility), and you can bet most republican presidents would have made the same decisions. All of that money - for banks, homeowners, the jobless, military expenditures - all ends up back in the economy. No one's saving it, that is for certain.

The so-called tea partiers are just angry white folk, who although they are among the luckiest humans on the planet, have been blessed with riches much of the rest of the world would find mind-boggling, and pay fewer taxes than similar people in other western countries, still feel like they deserve more, are being cheated and are somehow pitiable victims in the grand scheme of things. Hardly. Quite niggardly and strangely angry is about all I get from following this so-called movement. To quote that great sage Mr. T: "I Pity The Fools."

Posted by: LukeEric | July 6, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

I knew these whackjobs just missed the incompetence of that moron w. Well, all they have to do is have the supreme court appoint another idiot.

Posted by: davidsawh | July 6, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

JRM -- they aren't interested in any actual solutions. But you are right -- a fence is Big Government -- you should have asked the guy if he was willinng to pay higher taxes to build it -- one that would really work would cost a vast fortune because the border is so long and the terrain steep in many places.

I'm sure he would have said no. All they want is a free lunch.

Posted by: drindl | July 6, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

If the tea party is such a huge thing

(1) why can't they assemble a rally of more than a doze or so pasty-faced smokers?

(2) why does every. Single. Last. Picture from a TP rally show seriously goofy-looking people front and center?

I mean, look at that clown in the tricorner. This is not a guy who wears a tie to work. This is some biker trash.

Yeah, grass roots. And guess who's picking up the tab for the keg.

Posted by: Noacoler | July 6, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

I was talking to a Tea-Partier this 4th, he told me we needed to build a fence high enough the length of the border to keep illegals out.
I told him that I thought there were two approaches, his BIG GOVERNMENT approach (secure the border), or a FREE MARKET approach which would be: Stop hiring them and stop buying their drugs.

His only response was "No" (to both solutions)

Posted by: JRM2 | July 6, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

One would think that after the 2006 and 2008 elections that conservatives would have re-thought their policies but instead they swung harder to the right and doubled-down on the policies that got us to where we are now.

Posted by: JRM2 | July 6, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

The Tea Party is another successful conservative think tank branding effort. Dating back to when the media first began reporting the "Moral Majority," the American Right has been FAR better at making noise than the American Left.

Tea Partiers fret over the power of Big Government. Well, the unbranded lefties fret over the power of Big Corporations.

Personally, I suspect that Big Corporations control the aforementioned conservative think tanks, and, therefore, have all the interest in the world of controlling the government. Do a little branding, rile up the unknowing masses, take all the money, and leave all of the states and municipalities scraping for dough.

This is the U.S. of A. today, my fellow Americans.

Posted by: dognabbit | July 6, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Time for some definitions I will need in further posts.
The Republican Party may be conveniently divided into about five categories, although three don't fit presently. Because the terms I intend to use can have other definitions, i intend to specify by appending a lower case f to each. Persns desiring to use the terms should use them in accordance with these derfinitions, rather than deciding on their own to define them otherwise.
From most conservative to least conservative we have:
f-Pluperfect Conservatives. They are the "Barry's Boys by the Chad Mitchell trio" conservatives. They want all changes since some point in the past, often the end of the Reagan Administration, or perhaps the assassination of McKinley, but by and large the end of the Hoover administration, repealed. For convenience sake they will be designated f-PPC

The Perfect Conservatives. They might like repealing much of previous Liberal Legislation, but because that is very complicated work, both because some L legislation actually benefits them and they would be reluctant to lose it, and because repealing change is still change, which they oppose. To designate them I will use f-PC.

Imperfect Conservatives. They can accept some change, but only what is absolutely necessary, and of that the change is better if it repeals L change piecemeal. They get designated f-IC.

Moderates, those of the old Republican party, mostly long since purged, who could accept change if they had some control over its final scope and sweep. They get designated f-M.

And finally the Progressives. Progressives are basically the political center that would vote, or at least register Republican, rather than not register affiliation or register democrat. There are probably none of these left. They get designated f-P

The T-s are mostly f-PPCs, and are just the targeted base when the targeted base of Republicans gets delusions of entitlement to election to (currently) National legislative positions. They are T-People now to leverage the republican party even farther f-PPC than it would be if left to its own devices. It stands in contrast to, and totally against, any f-IPC Republicans who haven't been tarred, feathered, and run out of the party of the big tent.

In later posts i will show how th use these definitions to analyse Republican response to the mainstream media.

Posted by: ceflynline | July 6, 2010 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Pshaw. The tea party is a spontaneous grass roots movement comprised of democrats, republicans, white, black, Latino and Asian members. It's founded on a legitimate concern about rising taxes and deficits, and the racist signs showing in news coverage is a vicious campaign of organized defamation on the part of Communist sympathizers.

baDUMP

(laughter)

(applause)

Thanks folks I'll be here at the Luxor all week. Now drink up.

Let me, entertain you, 'cause it's alll I wanna dooooo.

Posted by: Noacoler | July 6, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

What? The national political group who's financed by Republican fundraisers, supports Republican candidates, and sides with the Republicans 100% of the time is actually a subset of the Republican Party? I had no idea! Thanks for reporting the results of this stunning poll!

Seriously, CC, you're a professional political analyst. It's pathetic that you couldn't figure this out on your own. (The alternate explanation, that CC never does any real analysis and only reports on the results of polls, is equally pathetic.)

Posted by: Blarg | July 6, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

All this has been obvious from the start.

This is too funny:

"Sharron Angle has resorted to an unusual maneuver to counter Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid's attacks on her past quotes and positions, the Reid campaign has announced: A cease-and-desist letter, demanding that Reid no longer republish Angle's previous campaign website."

She's trying so hard to pretend she never said all that nutty stuff...

Posted by: drindl | July 6, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

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