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The Race Within the Republican Race

With Michigan's Republican primary set for tomorrow and South Carolina and Florida ready to choose their candidate by the end of the month, it's no secret that what happens in these three states could very well determine the GOP nominee.

But, even as the candidates for president stump in these crucial states, another intriguing battle is going on -- the jockeying to be the next chairman of the Republican National Committee. Why? It just so happens that the three state party chairmen -- Katon Dawson of South Carolina, Jim Greer of Florida and Saul Anuzis of Michigan -- are the three most often mentioned candidate to head the RNC come 2009.

Although none of the three are openly running for the post -- that would be unseemly after all -- evidence exists that seems to point to their interest.

Take Anuzis's invitation for national reporters to a "Drinks and Gab" session yesterday in Michigan. Or Dawson's strident statement against Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) during a campaign stop last week. "Senator Clinton's run-of-the-mill Democrat rhetoric isn't winning her friends in our state," said Dawson. "If she manages to win her party's nomination for president, she'll follow in the footsteps of history's forgettable footnotes like Walter Mondale, Mike Dukakis and John Kerry to landslide defeat in South Carolina." Boo yah!

Of the trio, Dawson is the most blatant about his interest. "Certainly I'm looking at it," he said in an interview with The Fix this afternoon, carefully noting he is not actively campaigning for the job. Of course, if he was campaigning he would note that he makes (and takes) more than 700 cell phone calls a month, that, unlike Greer and Anuzis, his chairmanship is a volunteer post, and that during his six-year tenure, Republican defeated an incumbent governor (Jim Hodges) and won two open U.S. Senate seats -- one of which was held by a Democrat.

He also might mention that he has raised $15 million since becoming chairman and boast that his state party has more cash on hand than either Florida or Michigan despite being "a third of the size. (He, of course, mentioned all of these things during his chat with The Fix.)

Dawson said that the national party has a "brand problem" -- comparing it to the pony express. Of his efforts in South Carolina, he said: "We've been winning here while a lot of people have been losing."

Greer demurred when asked about his interest in the national chairmanship ("I am focused on serving the Republicans in Florida") but made clear that the record he has compiled in his year as chairman would serve him well if he decided to run. He cited his outreach to the black and Hispanic communities in Florida (a staple of former RNC Chairman Ken Mehlman's tenure in the post) and the fact that in 2007 alone the state party collected $15 million -- a record for an off year. "Fundraising is something that doesn't scare me," he said.

Greer said he would "never say never" to the RNC post, adding: "The party does need a lot of new energy and a lot of new idea."

Anuzis denied any interest in the post in an e-mail exchange earlier today. "I'm not running," he wrote. "I will support our presidential nominee's choice...I think the party has to be 'in sync' with the White House."

Of course, not actively running may be the best strategy to securing the post. After all, the next chairman will be decided by just 168 RNC committeemen and women at the winter meeting in January 2009 -- a group of the most inside of insiders.

One Republican strategist with ties to the RNC counseled the interested parties to keep their ambitions on hold for the duration of the presidential race. "These guys needs to realize that the nominee is not going to be concerned with the 2009 chairman's race," thre strategist said.

Somehow we doubt they will take that advice.

By Chris Cillizza  |  January 14, 2008; 4:00 PM ET
Categories:  Republican Party  
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I don't like the way it goes in the Democrats campaign.It becomes more divisive every day,Paricularly between Clinton and Obama.Obama says I am a uniter,yet 68% African-American goes for Obama,Why? Only 36% whites will vote for him.57% women back Clinton,it is more in line with the statistics. After the Bush administration disaster, have the Americans leaned anything? A divided country is to nobody's benefits, don't play the race or gender card. Let us stick to the issues,there is a lot work to do to fix this country.

Posted by: johnycheng1 | January 17, 2008 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Thank you, JKrishnamurti, for illustrating what's behind the slovenly spelling and grammar. Your reference to your own self-sacrificing ego and your assumption that "authoritarians" "fear" you are certainly symptomatic.

Why the name, incidentally? Wasn't Krishnamurti a pacific emissary of philosophic Hinduism back in the 1920s?

Posted by: iyenori | January 16, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

JKrishnamurti: FairlingtonBlade is right; your continual misspellings diminish the force of your message. In a colloquial exchange such as this, a little carelessness here and there is understandable; a lot of it suggests that the writer isn't thinking and might as well be skipped.

You might also lose the capital letters and the funny faces. Able writers communicate with words, not typographical tricks.

Posted by: iyenori | January 15, 2008 03:26 PM
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The differance between the gop and not personified. I get my credibility from my on point posts. I get credibility from what I say is going to happen, happening. Not by talking nice, wearing a suit, or speaking gop news speak.

Silly republcains these days :)

Heads in the clouds. Join reality gop. The whole world is waiting for you, cow folk's and punk's/anarhcists.

Posted by: JKrishnamurti | January 15, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

"JKrishnamurti: FairlingtonBlade is right; your continual misspellings diminish the force of your message. In a colloquial exchange such as this, a little carelessness here and there is understandable; a lot of it suggests that the writer isn't thinking and might as well be skipped.

You might also lose the capital letters and the funny faces. Able writers communicate with words, not typographical tricks.

Posted by: iyenori | January 15, 2008 03:26 PM
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HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA. Like clock work. Again. I sacrafice my ego for you repubclains. If I don't get you authoritarians something you will run in fear as soon as I log on. you can't touch my posts, so I give you somethign to keep you involved.

It's not liberals/democrats or progessives holding up progress. Just doing my part to help authoritarian gop'ers like you stuck 4 decades back, to join reality.

your welcome :)

Posted by: JKrishnamurti | January 15, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

JKrishnamurti: FairlingtonBlade is right; your continual misspellings diminish the force of your message. In a colloquial exchange such as this, a little carelessness here and there is understandable; a lot of it suggests that the writer isn't thinking and might as well be skipped.

You might also lose the capital letters and the funny faces. Able writers communicate with words, not typographical tricks.

Posted by: iyenori | January 15, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

To call a rat a rat is not patisan reporting. that is wher the gop are lost causes. If your not a propogandist your "un-american". Not realizing it is the job of a newperson or journalist to tell the truth.

this is america. We are a self-government. In a self government you need all the real news you can get WITH AS LITTLE PROPOGANDA AN DLIES FOR PROFIT AS POSSIBLE. How can we vote and make educated decisions for the future with half truths and lies? We can't.

The gop and their cult is a party of sabotuers. But hey are doing good right? they know what's better for us than we do, right? this is america. I'd, and the american people, make the call what's best for me and my family myself. You can understand that can't you gop :)

Hypocrites.

Posted by: JKrishnamurti | January 15, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

"If it's dialogue that liberals want, why do they insist on throwing pies and trying to silence conservative speakers at universities and colleges instead of listening to their points of view and then putting forth counter arguements to show how wrong conservatives are? If it is a dialog that liberals want, why do they refuse to go on fox and carry on that dialogue? If it is a dialogue that liberals want, why are they trying so hard to take the talk radio choice away from the people and give that choice to the beaurocrats in the government instead of putting on shows that are intellegent and interesting to listeners so that they get ratings?

Posted by: dave | January 14, 2008 07:43 PM
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you call what fox does dialoge? Rush Limbaugh is conversation? You mean to tell me, Sean Hannity does more quality reporting, than he does elementary school bullying. Nah.

Get the above off the air, and O'Reilly Savage, Coulter, Savage, Malkin. And so on and so forth and so on and so forth. The left does not have or want propoganda. Call a truce in verbal combat, and your vitrol attacks of americans, THEN WE CAN HAVE DIALOGUE. What you people now do is the same as russian and german propoganda of the early 20th century. You people havn't cahnged much. The world has. Stand down and we can fix the nation together. Or do not. your choice. But don't whine and complain about "fairness in the media". Free speech is not an issue here. There speech is not free. It's bought and paid for. Also the people they attack pay for what they say. Conflict of interests. That is what will get them. not the government, not liberals. conflict of interests.

Posted by: JKrishnamurti | January 15, 2008 10:19 AM | Report abuse

7-10, I forgot that you are in SC.

What is your take on each primary?

I will look at your blog for clues.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | January 15, 2008 9:08 AM | Report abuse

Katon Dawson says:

"We've been winning [in South Carolina] while a lot of people have been losing."

I'm not sure how great an accomplishment this is because South Carolina is one of the reddest, most conservative states in the country. The state and federal government here (I live in SC) are totally dominated by Republicans. The SC state legislature is dominated by Republicans by about a 3 to 2 ratio. So Dawson's bombast here doesn't really hold water. Oh, and that Senate seat was held by Fritz Hollings--a Senate old-timer. Because of the very demographics and level of partisanship in this state, Democrats simply don't stand a chance here. Once Congressman Spratt retires, Jim Clyburn will be the only Democrat left--and he has a gerrymandered majority-Black district.

Anyway, Dawson mentioned a "brand" problem earlier. That is true, but it's not something he's trying to help fix, as is evidenced by some of his previous unintelligent remarks, such as saying Hillary Clinton "wants to surrender to the terrorists in Iraq." I think hardcore partisan Republicans may like Dawson, but more moderate and more pragmatic voters will find him far less appealing. That will hurt the GOP with its outreach efforts.

I wrote more about Dawson and the absurdity of his (and other politicians') remarks several months ago here:

http://www.theseventen.com/2007/09/lame-political-discourse.html

And also here:

http://www.theseventen.com/2007/11/lame-political-discourse-part-2.html

Posted by: theseventen | January 15, 2008 8:47 AM | Report abuse

'Michigan's primary is today, and everyone notes that it's Mitt Romney who has the most riding on it. He seems to be in full-on pander mode, promising yesterday to "ease fuel-efficiency standards and spend billions more in federal money to bolster struggling automakers," the Post reports.'

Ease fuel-efficiency standards? Is he nuts? When everyone knows gas prices are going to continue rising? But then he's never had to worry about money, why should he care.

And oh, yes, let's be sure to spend all our hard-working taxpayer's money bailing out corporations--we definitely need more corporate welfare. Someone tell me what this has to do with 'market forces'?

Posted by: drindl | January 15, 2008 7:52 AM | Report abuse

Mark,

Thanks for the quotes from/information about McCain.

Not surprised you didn't see any lawn signs/bumper stickers in NY - I rarely see any around here. My guess is that everyone assumes Hillary will win although none of my D friends seem very enthusiastic about that. I still see the occasional Dean bumper sticker - and GWB bumper stickers, too (incredible), but western NY is R territory.

Posted by: -pamela | January 15, 2008 12:13 AM | Report abuse

Strange politics, Jim. I was in NY last week and saw none in the suburbs, no bumper stickers, nada.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | January 14, 2008 10:56 PM | Report abuse

Mark

Despite the Florida primary being only 2 weeks away, I do not remember seeing any yard signs. I occasionally see Ron Paul signs at various roadside locations. In fact, last week I saw a group of supporters near a new shopping development. They had a car festooned with decals and had planted a number of road signs in an undeveloped area across the street. Someone was standing in the island with a few more signs waving at passersby. There are very few bumper stickers. I can only remember seeing a bare handful of Mitt decals and 1 or 2 for Rudy.

Rudy is on TV with some 'feel good' ads. Mitt had been running ads featuring sound bites from his stump speech delivered to adoring crowds. As reported, he pulled those and is concentrating on Michigan. I haven't seen any Democratic advertising. Turnout will be interesting to watch since there is also an initiative on the ballot which would result in lower property taxes.

Posted by: jimd52 | January 14, 2008 10:37 PM | Report abuse

MAJOR news in Senate races: A judge has ruled that the Mississippi Senate special election has to be held by March 19th -- which is certainly great news for Democrats. Full analysis: http://www.campaigndiaries.com/2008/01/breaking-mississippi-judge-rules-in.html

Posted by: campaigndiaries | January 14, 2008 10:23 PM | Report abuse

This evening at my mens' group, after one member told how hard it was to pass his handgun target test wearing trifocals [we are old], another suggested a political fantasy game.

In the game, we might note that McCain and Obama agree about constitutional law and and during their presidential debate McC tells BHO that if McC wins, he will offer the AG slot to BHO.

Not to be outdone, BHO prospectively offers McC SecDef if BHO wins.

Then they debate everything else.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | January 14, 2008 10:15 PM | Report abuse

pamela, from early '06:

WALLACE: But you do not believe that currently he has the legal authority to engage in these warrant-less wiretaps.

MCCAIN: You know, I don't think so, but why not come to Congress? We can sort this all out. I don't think -- I know of no member of Congress, frankly, who, if the administration came and said here's why we need this capability, that they wouldn't get it. And so let's have the hearings.
---------------------------------------
McCain, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC), Sen. Arlen Specter (R-PA), Sen. Sam Brownback (R-KS) and Sen. Richard Lugar (R-IN) were the Rs that expressed serious concerns about the legality of the program.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | January 14, 2008 10:09 PM | Report abuse

drindl, thanx for the Stephenville UFO scare.

proud, I was speaking as an employment lawyer not about male tastes in beauty but about physical improbability. We actually had a lunch conversation at a Section meeting back then and although some female employment lawyers took offense to the notion, most of us thought that a jury would not buy a case where the female proboscis was longer than the male appendage.

We also thought if we represented WJC we would have advised not answering the case at all. Under the FRCP, even in a default case, she would have had to prove damages - and she could not. She suffered no employment related harm. There would have been a nominal judgment entered, with

No deposition, no Lewinsky lie under oath, and no impeachment.

It is rumored that HRC demanded that the case be answered against the advice of WJC's attorneys. I have no idea if this is true.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | January 14, 2008 9:52 PM | Report abuse

How do predict the winners of the presidential primary's to win a T-shirt?

Posted by: anthonyjbrady | January 14, 2008 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Re: JKrishnamurti

You really should activate your spell checker. You have no idea how much careless typing undermines your credibility.

B B

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | January 14, 2008 9:16 PM | Report abuse

hey mark, this one's for you -- is texas kucinich territory?

STEPHENVILLE, Texas (AP) -- In this farming community where nightfall usually brings clear, starry skies, residents are abuzz over reported sightings of what many believe is a UFO.

Ricky Sorrells says he saw a flat, metallic object hovering about 300 feet over a pasture behind his Texas home.

Several dozen people -- including a pilot, county constable and business owners -- say they have seen a large silent object with bright lights flying low and fast. Some reported seeing fighter jets chasing it.

"People wonder what in the world it is because this is the Bible Belt, and everyone is afraid it's the end of times," said Steve Allen, a freight company owner and pilot who said the object he saw last week was a mile long and half a mile wide. "It was positively, absolutely nothing from these parts."

While federal officials say there's a logical explanation, locals swear that it was larger, quieter, faster and lower to the ground than an airplane. They also said the object's lights changed configuration, unlike those of a plane. People in several towns who reported seeing it over several weeks have offered similar descriptions of the object.'

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/01/14/ufo.sightings.ap/index.html

Posted by: drindl | January 14, 2008 9:13 PM | Report abuse

'My girl seems to be on the uptick, thanks - a myriad of symptoms plus a really, really high fever, all of which did not want to go away and gave our household little sleep for the last week.'

scary, dave... how old is she? a really high fever terrifies me. mine is 16 now but she's still a baby to me.

sounds like your area leans democratic. where are you?

about what you said about dems going on fox-- my dear, it's an outlet that was designed from its inception to be an ideologically pure communication vehicle, owned by rupert murdoch, and created by Republican strategist Roger Ailes. It is the equivalent of Air America. And they invited the Republican candidates to debate there, but they all refused. What is the difference, hon?

Posted by: drindl | January 14, 2008 9:03 PM | Report abuse

Democratic Michigan Primary - Prediction Time!

Who do you predict will win the Democratic Michigan Primary?

http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=1525

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Republican Michigan Primary - Prediction Time!

Who do you predict will win the Republican Michigan Primary?

http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=1524


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Posted by: PollM | January 14, 2008 8:59 PM | Report abuse

Well Austin Mark, this little Redheaded Rat has actually moved into Lloyd Dogmeat's Terratory, but due to the Hostile Nature of the Sanctuary City's destructive Immigration/Un-Wanted competition stance, I am about to be moving Again!

Who do I support, and WHY do I consider the GOPbers to be idiots(The GOP Leaders-Not the Candidates)?

I want almost ALL OF THE ABOVE!

McClown has shown Himself to be an Idiotic Senile Dimocrat!

With Mittster, and the Huck, as the Exectutives-Grabbing MOST of the Conservative base, and the Legal Minds of Giuliani, and Thompson, the Finance and Medical Expertice of Dr. Ron Paul, the Labor Law Advocacy of Tancredo, along with someone like a Colin Powell for the Military Expert, all in the Cabinet/Director Positions, the GOP might have a chance in Hell of actually winning.

The GOP cannot survive any disinfranchisements. They need all the support they can round up. THEN, with a well laid out TEAM already being shown, as opposed to the Dubious possibilities someone like Obasama MIGHT assign the senior Positions, many true Indies, will come back into the Big Tent!

RAT has spoken! ;~)

Posted by: rat-the | January 14, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

McCain was a winner in Michigan by about 8% against GW, so he should hold most of his support. Should Mitt lose, I think that he is done but will not quit.

Posted by: lylepink | January 14, 2008 8:04 PM | Report abuse

JKrishnamurti - "What happens when no violence comes. Just dialogue and conversation. If one side (r's) uses criminality and terrorism agaisnt it's people, and the other side does not recipracate, where do we go from there? We are seeing it now."

If it's dialogue that liberals want, why do they insist on throwing pies and trying to silence conservative speakers at universities and colleges instead of listening to their points of view and then putting forth counter arguements to show how wrong conservatives are? If it is a dialog that liberals want, why do they refuse to go on fox and carry on that dialogue? If it is a dialogue that liberals want, why are they trying so hard to take the talk radio choice away from the people and give that choice to the beaurocrats in the government instead of putting on shows that are intellegent and interesting to listeners so that they get ratings?

Posted by: dave | January 14, 2008 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: rfpiktor | January 14, 2008 7:34 PM | Report abuse

claudialong,
As I commented the other day, I see more Kerry/Edwards stickers than any current candidates - and that really puzzles me as they don't seem to be too weathered. In the last fortnight or so, I recall seeing a few Obama, about the same Hillary, one McCain, and one Giuliani. Maybe I just tend to notice the Kerry/Edwards more because they seem so odd to me. No Huck, no Paul, no Romney and no solo Edwards.

A co-worker of mine who lives in FL came by and he reports seeing no signs at all where he lives.

My girl seems to be on the uptick, thanks - a myriad of symptoms plus a really, really high fever, all of which did not want to go away and gave our household little sleep for the last week.

Posted by: dave | January 14, 2008 7:24 PM | Report abuse

bush fox rush, and whatever smurfs supporter them and give them power. they have beening trying to start a race war. They have been trying to start a conflict with illegals, african americans, asians. All at once. Why? To take our minds off that which matters.

hannity and o'reilly in pirticular have reved up tensions. O'reilly has reapeatly incited vioelcne agaisnt the left and protestors. I was under the impression that was a federal crime. Calling for violence against yoru countrymen.

What happens when no violence comes. Just dialogue and conversation. If one side (r's) uses criminality and terrorism agaisnt it's people, and the other side does not recipracate, where do we go from there? We are seeing it now.

Marginalize those that would divide and incite violence agaisnt yoru countrymen. they should be shown the door. Please help me get fox rush savage malkin and others off the air. The left is not inciting violence. Please recipracate gop. only you can get those that would divide us or war war on us for profit. If you will not stand down, why should the left. and which side is doing damage to the nation? Which side is fixing said damage? or at least trying. How has money to gain? Who has nothing to gain but their country back?

Fox and those like them get paid to lie to the elderly and divide us. I pay for wha tI do, I don't get paid. So who can you trust? Fox?

Posted by: JKrishnamurti | January 14, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

JKrishnamurti - "They sured tried to justify their Tim Mccveigh tactics."

Who?

Posted by: dave | January 14, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

dave --what about bumper stickers? lots more people have them than yard signs -- what do you see there?

and also, is your kid okay? i hope it was nothing serious.

Posted by: drindl | January 14, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

mark_in_austin,
She's doing a lot better - thanks.

I've been thinking about the signs and even in the yards in other neighborhoods where there are ALWAYS signs, nothing is up. Maybe it's still too early. I doubt it's lack of interest.

Posted by: dave | January 14, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

The thing is zouk. Obama can't be agressive.

He is a basketball player. We are aggresive by nature. But if he were aggresive politically, the racists in your party would be scared poopless. One day we all will be free to be ourselves. For now you will have to be satisfied with the aggressivness of his supporters ;)

Posted by: JKrishnamurti | January 14, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Favorite answer from MTP -

Tim: what about the VRWC?

Hillary : cackle, cackle, cackle

Posted by: kingofzouk | January 14, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

CAnkles. :)

Posted by: JKrishnamurti | January 14, 2008 6:06 PM | Report abuse

'perfect' candidate this year?

answer -

whoever stands athwart the clinton menace. but I don't think Obambi will do.

Posted by: kingofzouk | January 14, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

mark, No one ever said he had good taste in women. I recently saw a picture of Hillary as a Congressional intern in 1968; she had cankles even then.

Posted by: proudtobeGOP | January 14, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

mark, No signs up around here either. My McCain for President 2008 window decal on my car is it. I drive a lot though, so I figure it's getting good vis.

rat, Care to enlighten the rest of us on your 'perfect' candidate this year? (hint: there isn't one in the R field in case you haven't noticed)

Posted by: proudtobeGOP | January 14, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

proud, Paula Jones was the one who was most suspect - before her nose job, no man would have thought a BJ was conceivable.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | January 14, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

And before you say I'm paranoid. Straight from the jack-a**'es mouth

"By Bill O'Reilly for BillOReilly.com
Thursday, January 10, 2008

There is a chance that before this presidential election year is over, somebody is going to get hurt. Knowing that partisan hostility is boiling over in America, the Secret Service is tense because the candidates are exposed when they campaign in public. Hatred is definitely in the air, and the media is partially to blame
"

Who's going to get hurt? O'Reilly? hannity? Murdoch? Bush? If leftists were going to do somethign physical, would they have by now? What more could the gop do to destroy this country and enrage most of america? nothing. They sured tried to justify their Tim Mccveigh tactics.

That is the differance. That is why the gop and fox are fascists. Submit or be forced to submit by violence. Is america still free? Free'er than most I supposed, but free?

We were at one time. When did we lose our political freedom. And who stole it from us>

Posted by: JKrishnamurti | January 14, 2008 5:56 PM | Report abuse

If you are rat from Round Rock, can I suggest, in a neighborly way, that you reserve your exclamation points for the really BIG 'uns?

Who do you like? I think you have mentioned this before, but for this thread, could you say who you like, and why?

I know you do not like McC - I do. I like him in part because he is a maverick, who calls every issue the way he sees it, not the way I do, or the way you do, or the way the lobby does. I like that in a politician.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | January 14, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

"In my opinion, Gennifer Flowers was telling the truth; so was Monica Lewinsky, and so was Kathleen Willey, and so, lest we forget, was Juanita Broaddrick, the woman who says she was raped by Bill Clinton."

What about Paula Jones? I think she was telling the truth, too. Remember, in May of 1997, the Supreme Court dismissed Clinton's attempt to delay the trial until he left office.

The case was a multiple precedent shatterer. Clinton's videotaped deposition was the first time a sitting president was interrogated as a defendant in a court case.

After getting shot down by the SC, Clinton offered a $700,000 settlement payment to charity, but Jones said she also wanted an apology.

He ended up paying $850,000.00 to settle.
Not exactly chump change.

Posted by: proudtobeGOP | January 14, 2008 5:52 PM | Report abuse

nah. After teh last 30 years of gop rule. the people ar enow scared to profess their true beleifets. Remember the red scare. I'm sure many elderly saw that in fox and the gop from 01-05. so rather than talking about the issues, as we were denided. We'll just vote. I like it better that way. Less jones effect propoganda. Less lies spin and discredit. More of POWER TO THE PEOPLE. i love it.

I hope no one has signs. Shoot, if I put up an Obama sign in reno these fascists probably would drive-by. What's the point. i can vote without a sign. i can reach people without risking my life or childrens life.

Posted by: JKrishnamurti | January 14, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse

I would personally like to exclude all of the GOPber (lack of) Leader-ships! They have as much vision as Bats! And their Ears are too small for the Radar to work!

McCain, should not even be allowed to call Himself a Republican anymore. He thinks of himself as some sort of "Maverick". I think of him as a Benedict Arnold! The Republicans have had an opportunity to capitalize on a great assembly of different Talents, but have chosen to be idiots instead.
Without a Unified group effort, most Kindergartenors could tell you, the BUSHwacked GOP does not have a Chance!

To have anyone in charge of the GOP that does not have that much awareness of reality, is going to be the END of the GOP.

Straight Ticket Voters will annihilate half the GOP Congressional Seats! The GOP HAS to have a VERY Strong Ticket, and CANNOT lose the Presidency!

Especially to Congressmen from an 11% Approved of Congress!

Posted by: rat-the | January 14, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse

Hi dave - the solitary sign for at least the 300 homes closest to mine is for RP.


Hope your kid is OK now.

Posted by: mark_in_austin | January 14, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

I'm just wondering if the Michigan indies will be enough to push McCain to victory.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: parkerfl | January 14, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

mark_in_austin,
Knowing that you're big on signs (and I too think that tells you a lot), my state, VA, has the primary 2/12 and the ONLY sign in my neighborhood that I have seen is the one down the street from me at the liberal crank's house that says "Impeach them both". Other than that, it's remarkable the lack of signage, but I'm sure that will change.

Posted by: dave | January 14, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

CC,
An article titled "The Race Within the Republican Race" about the non-race for chairman of the RNC for next year PALES in comparison to what is going on in the current race for President. The Democratic frontrunners are imploding over race, John Edwards running against all odds is prolonging what was once a simple and straightforward Democratic corona, oops, primary, Obama is taking the lead over HRC in Nevada polls, it's a 4 way tie for the R's in Fla, and there is a tight 3 way race in Mich for the R's tomorrow. You're tellin me this article couldn't wait for a dead spot?

Posted by: dave | January 14, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Rufi - Are you going to participate in your caucus? What do the yard signs in your neighborhood say about the race? Aside from your own vote, do you have a sense of whether there is any buzz for anyone? Will NVReno students vote?


Posted by: mark_in_austin | January 14, 2008 04:50 PM
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Yes. i am and independant but re-registared as a dem so clinton doesn't win:). My girl is a edwards supporter. i may be able to turn her, but I'm cool with edwards.

I live in a gop vacuum (reno). Also, reno is far less influencial in this election than vegas. Vegas has all the numbers, and dem's. with the union endorsments for obama, I think he's going to take it. I'm doing my best to help him. I'll be the one chanting "YES WE CAN".

But no buzz mark. Everyone is keeping it close to their vests. I think they will vote clinton here as the r's are done nationally. so clinton then becomes the best republcain. But again, here won't matter, vote clinton all day if they will. It's coming down to vegas. And how many people vote.

Like as a nation. The more people that vote, the worse for the republcains, or in this case clinton

Posted by: JKrishnamurti | January 14, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

KOZ - ya gotta luv Hitchens.

Rufi - Are you going to participate in your caucus? What do the yard signs in your neighborhood say about the race? Aside from your own vote, do you have a sense of whether there is any buzz for anyone? Will NVReno students vote?

Posted by: mark_in_austin | January 14, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

oops forgot the link. Sorry gop internet police. Here you go before you report me.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22650959/

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Posted by: JKrishnamurti | January 14, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Chis hitchens, zouk? your listening to your masters lies again. Don't worry. People like me will free you to think for yourself soon enough.

Posted by: JKrishnamurti | January 14, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Now what are teh republcains going to use as justification to start another war.

"Heckler behind U.S.-Iran incident?
Sailors say person often heard in region might have inflamed events"

The gop reminds me of scared old ladies looking at their neighbors in fear with binoculars. Everything plays into their crazy context. the gop is done. The cow folk are dying out. Let's not replace them, shall we clinton.

Posted by: JKrishnamurti | January 14, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Liberals occasionally tell the truth:

Why on earth would we choose to put the Clinton family drama at the center of our politics again.
By Christopher Hitchens


What do you have to forget or overlook in order to desire that this dysfunctional clan once more occupies the White House and is again in a position to rent the Lincoln Bedroom to campaign donors and to employ the Oval Office as a massage parlor? You have to be able to forget, first, what happened to those who complained, or who told the truth, last time. It's often said, by people trying to show how grown-up and unshocked they are, that all Clinton did to get himself impeached was lie about sex. That's not really true. What he actually lied about, in the perjury that also got him disbarred, was the women. And what this involved was a steady campaign of defamation, backed up by private dicks (you should excuse the expression) and salaried government employees, against women who I believe were telling the truth. In my opinion, Gennifer Flowers was telling the truth; so was Monica Lewinsky, and so was Kathleen Willey, and so, lest we forget, was Juanita Broaddrick, the woman who says she was raped by Bill Clinton. (For the full background on this, see the chapter "Is There a Rapist in the Oval Office?" in the paperback version of my book No One Left To Lie To. This essay, I may modestly say, has never been challenged by anybody in the fabled Clinton "rapid response" team.) Yet one constantly reads that both Clintons, including the female who helped intensify the slanders against her mistreated sisters, are excellent on women's "issues."

One also hears a great deal about how this awful joint tenure of the executive mansion was a good thing in that it conferred "experience" on the despised and much-deceived wife. Well, the main "experience" involved the comprehensive fouling-up of the nation's health-care arrangements, so as to make them considerably worse than they had been before and to create an opening for the worst-of-all-worlds option of the so-called HMO, combining as it did the maximum of capitalist gouging with the maximum of socialistic bureaucracy. This abysmal outcome, forgiven for no reason that I can perceive, was the individual responsibility of the woman who now seems to think it entitles her to the presidency. But there was another "experience," this time a collaborative one, that is even more significant.

During the Senate debate on the intervention in Iraq, Sen. Clinton made considerable use of her background and "experience" to argue that, yes, Saddam Hussein was indeed a threat. She did not argue so much from the position adopted by the Bush administration as she emphasized the stand taken, by both her husband and Al Gore, when they were in office, to the effect that another and final confrontation with the Baathist regime was more or less inevitable. Now, it does not especially matter whether you agree or agreed with her about this (as I, for once, do and did). What does matter is that she has since altered her position and attempted, with her husband's help, to make people forget that she ever held it. And this, on a grave matter of national honor and security, merely to influence her short-term standing in the Iowa caucuses. Surely that on its own should be sufficient to disqualify her from consideration? Indifferent to truth, willing to use police-state tactics and vulgar libels against inconvenient witnesses, hopeless on health care, and flippant and fast and loose with national security: The case against Hillary Clinton for president is open-and-shut. Of course, against all these considerations you might prefer the newly fashionable and more media-weighty notion that if you don't show her enough appreciation, and after all she's done for us, she may cry.

http://www.slate.com/id/2182065/

Posted by: kingofzouk | January 14, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

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