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Sharron Angle takes on Harry Reid's effectiveness in new ad

1. Former Nevada state Assemblywoman Sharron Angle (R) will launch a new round of ads today in her race against Harry Reid (D) that aim to turn his long-standing influence argument on its head.

"Harry Reid says he does more for Nevada," says Angle, referencing the tag line of Reid's ads.

"He's done more for unemployment," she tells a group of people in a town hall-like setting, noting that the unemployment rate in the state is now over 14 percent; "He's done more for the foreclosure rate," she says, adding that that the state has the highest foreclosure rate in the nation.

"Harry Reid has done more and it's time for us to say 'stop doing it', we can't stand any more," says Angle at the ad's conclusion.

The ad, which was produced by Brabender Cox, is an attempt to re-frame the race around Reid and what he has done (or hasn't done) since ascending to the Senate in 1986.

Since winning the Republican primary nod last month, Angle has struggled mightily to keep the focus on Reid as the Democrat's campaign has effectively used past statements she has made to paint her as out of the Nevada political mainstream. (Make sure to read the Post's Amy Gardner's report from the ground detailing Angle's struggles.)

Polling reflects Angle's slide. In a recently-released Las Vegas Review Journal survey, Reid held a 44 percent to 37 percent edge -- the first time in recent memory that his re-election prospects looked anything but dim.

That same poll showed Angle's unfavorablity ratings rocketing upward, a sign that Reid's aggressive television campaign against her had worked.

Still, Reid remains deeply unpopular and, as Angle's ad notes, the state has struggled mightily on the economic front in recent years -- two factors that give Angle supporters some reason for optimism.

2. Louisiana Rep. Charlie Melancon (D-La.) has moved into a dead heat with Sen. David Vitter (R), according to a new poll conducted for his campaign.
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The Melancon poll, conducted by pollster John Anzalone, shows Vitter leading Melancon 44 percent to 43 percent.

Previous publicly released polls from Melancon's campaign have showed him trailing by 10 points, and most public polls have shown the race even more heavily weighted in Vitter's favor.

(A National Republican Senatorial Committee, conducted by Public Opinion Strategies and released immediately following the Melancon poll being made public shows Vitter up 48 percent to 31 percent.)

The Melancon poll shows Vitter's job disapproval creeping up from 36 to 44 percent since May 2009, while his job approval has remained steady in the low-to-mid 50s. Melancon nearly matches Vitter's approval (50 percent) while carrying a lower disapproval score of 30 percent.

Melancon's campaign is likely to use the poll to cast a second-tier race in a new light. Democrats have been working feverishly to make the case that Vitter's personal problems -- including his 2007 acknowledgment of his involvement in a prostitution ring and a recent controversy over a former aide who was arrested for threatening his girlfriend with a knife -- will make this a real race.

Melancon's weak fundraising and the recent troubles of Vitter's primary challenger -- former state Supreme Court Justice Chet Traylor -- have called that into some question, however.

3. Wealthy businessman John Raese (R) announced Thursday that he is entering the West Virginia Senate race, one day after Rep. Shelley Moore Capito (R), long viewed as Republicans' best hope for capturing the seat of the late Sen. Robert Byrd (D), surprised many by announcing that she would not run.

Raese, who lost a 2006 bid against Byrd as well as a challenge to Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D) in 1984, said in a radio interview that he is running in part due to a "decay in our competitiveness around the world." He also tied his likely Democratic rival, Gov. Joe Manchin, to national Democrats and President Obama.

"When you look at Obamacare or you look at cap and trade or you look at the immigration problem today that we have in our country, and when you look at the stimulus that has been a massive failure, Joe Manchin marches hand in hand with the three of them: Obama and Reid and Pelosi," Raese said, adding: "I don't think anybody in this country can get elected with a platform like that."

The other serious candidate on the Republican side is Mac Warner, who placed second behind Republican nominee David McKinley in West Virginia's 1st district primary two months ago.

National Republican Senatorial Committee Chairman John Cornyn (Texas) indicated earlier this week that his committee likely won't endorse in the GOP primary; it's also uncertain whether the eventual GOP nominee will benefit from the resources of national Republicans, which are stretched thin due to a broader-than-usual playing field this cycle.

According to the West Virginia secretary of state's website, ten Republicans (including Raese and Warner) and three Democrats (including Manchin) have filed to run. Given Manchin's popularity in the state, a win by any of his rivals remains a distant possibility at best.

4. Things have taken a nasty -- and literally dirty -- turn in the Colorado Senate race.

On Wednesday, a video surfaced showing leading GOP Senate candidate Ken Buck saying voters should choose him because, "I do not wear high heels." Less than 24 hours later, former Lt. Gov. Jane Norton's (R) campaign released a TV ad seeking to use it to her advantage.

The Norton ad features Buck's comments, then rewinds and runs them again. It continues rolling to show Buck talking about how he's wearing cowboy boots with real "bulls**t on 'em."

"Now Ken Buck wants to go to Washington? He'd fit right in," says the narrator.

Buck's campaign has pointed out that Norton's campaign repeatedly made reference to the gender difference in the primary, and her campaign manager at one point even referenced her "high heels."

Norton's campaign, meanwhile, appears to be making a last-minute effort to close the gap. It has less than three weeks to do so before the Aug. 10 primary.

5. If it's Friday, it's time to chat with the Fix. Times two!

First at 10:30 a.m., we will unveil the winner of our "Worst Week in Washington" competition in a live video chat.

Then, 30 minutes later comes our "Live Fix" chat where we take questions about anything and everything. You can submit questions in advance or just follow along in real time.

Come for "Worst Week" and stay for the "Live Fix". It's Friday, let's play two.

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naocoler wrote:
Strip out the junk, Mike, you sound like an idiot seeing salvation in the tea party, which is just a bunch of aging Jim Crow former Democrats and smokers seeing their lives flash before their eyes because the President isn't a good ol' boy southerner.
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You are so wrong. I am a TEA Party supporter. I have never been a Democrat (thank God) or smoker. As a veteran I hate to see the country being taken over by people on the dole voting for who gives them the most of other people's hard earned money. We are almost at the point where there are more people on the dole combined with government employees being paid with tax payers money than there are producers in America. As socialists like Obama and his Democrat camp followers spend more and more with less and less people producing, the future is bleak. I think this is the last good chance we have to save the USA as we knew it. The reason Obama and his ilk want the illegal aliens to become citizens is so they will finally have that majority they have wanted for so long, to destroy freedom in America. In my opinion, the TEA Party is our only hope. Everyone that doubts it should listen to the TEA Party anthem sung by a great black American patriot, Lloyd Marcus.

Posted by: good_angel | July 24, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Would somebody please explain to milbanks in words of one syllable that when it comes to free trade and offshoring jobs, the Republicans will take a back seat to nobody, especially those labor loving Democrats? When you begin attacking free trade, either by backing out of NAFTA, or by raising tariffs, it will be the REPUBLICANS screaming the loudest, "You CAN'T do THAT!!!"

The last good protectionist Republicans Went away under Eisenhower, and globalizing trade has been a REPUBLICAN platform plank ever since.

So, while running on bring our jobs back home MIGHT win over a few T-People, the bulk of the crazies will reject your protectionism as Democratic Liberal Socialist Nazism and vote resolutely against it. One More Sign of how you might be a RINO is to even think protectionism.

Posted by: ceflynline | July 23, 2010 6:45 PM | Report abuse

Agree with L1: How is this a news story?

For FREE, you embedded a political ad for Sharron "Right" Angle. She has campaign funds. Make her pay the Post for the placement ... seriously.

What's worse, you missed the day's actual NEWS story about Angle. She called a press conference and then ran off the stage when the reporters tried to ask questions. So it appears she is unable or unwilling to defend her whack-job positions anywhere outside Fox News.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | July 23, 2010 6:33 PM | Report abuse

"Shrink, Chris C is basically like if John Madden decided to only draw circles on one team. He needs to draw more circles on Dems. Posted by: DDAWD"

But then it wouldn't work. When you diagram your offensive plays, if you leave out the defensive circles your plays have an infinite number of ways to work.

If you have to draw in the defensive circles, and diagram how they are likely to react to your offense, it might become apparent that your puny 55 lb x'es aren't going to do very well against their 250+ lb O's, and you need a better offense.

You would have to change your offense.

If you change you aren't conservative enough.

Better to just leave out the defenses circles.

Posted by: ceflynline | July 23, 2010 6:29 PM | Report abuse

"Poor Nevada, Reid or Angle, such a choice.
If not now soon, America will need fiscal conservatives but between Steele, the Bush cronies and the kooks like Paul and Angle, there are not a lot to vote for. All eyes on New Jersey I guess... Posted by: shrink2"

The problem is that there are either NO fiscal Conservatives, or there are democrats who are fiscal conservatives but not enough of them.

We know that there are actually NO republican Fiscal Conservatives, because true fiscal conservatives would be desperately seeking ways to produce large budget surpluses, and every Republican in the country believes in Revenue Neutrality.

WHENEVER there is some chance of having a budget surplus, the Republicans insist that the surplus is too big, and want tax cuts to reduce it. That certainly ISN'T fiscal Conservatism, but you won't find a single Republican in office or running for office who would disagree with tax cuts in order to reduce budget surpluses.

Tax and Spend Democrats, on the other hand, ARE willing to run budget surpluses. Budget Surpluses reduce the National Debt, so that sho0uld we need to borrow we have more room to do so.

SO, for fiscal conservatism, vote Democrat and hope, because if the Republicans win you can despair of ever seeing the debt paid off.

Posted by: ceflynline | July 23, 2010 6:22 PM | Report abuse

I occasionally read through the comments here to remind myself that we deserve the leaders we get. This one was no disappointment. Thanks everyone!

Posted by: BigTunaTim | July 23, 2010 5:43 PM | Report abuse

DDAWD,

the reason the bias issue means nothing to me is, because we are free to post the other side

did item no2 in his post make the Dems look good?

But nonetheless along my argument that it is for us to challenge CC, which he allows us to do - and along with the Rangel issue and remember politcs is all local

From Politico:

"
Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) has turned over e-mails to federal authorities investigating Sen. John Ensign’s extramarital affair with a campaign aide, the latest sign that the criminal probe into the embattled Nevada Republican is picking up steam."

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0710/40163.html#ixzz0uXjvnxTr


Will this hurt Angle as a Nevada Republican - does he have to denounce Ensign?

Posted by: bobbywc | July 23, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

overeasy, exactly, that is what is what is wrong with Nevada and neither Reid nor Angle can change it.

This is the whole problem, converting the American economic model from boom bust cycles to slow (too slow for our taste), but sustainable. Republicans say no such conversion need happen. Democrats do, but they are not serious. The politics of sustainability are looming large in the not distant future. Republicans are selling nostalgia. What are Democrats selling?

Yeah we all read Krugman, is that it?

Posted by: shrink2 | July 23, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

BWC, if putting this Angle ad and not talking about the Reid ads was the only evidence I had of bias, then that would be a flimsy case. But this isn't the only thing.

And yeah, it's not a huge deal, not to me. I didn't find out about the Reid ads here, but I found out somewhere else. I'm not going to do a whole lot of complaining. Mainly, I was just agreeing with drindl. There are plenty of viewpoints on this board.

When I say I want balance, I don't mean balance like "Chris C says that Republicans had a good fundraising quarter. Now he needs to balance that with good news for Democrats."
What I mean is more along the lines of "Chris C says that Republicans are planning to use Charlie Rangel's ethics violations to try and paint the entire party as ethically weak. Now Chris C needs to balance that by finding out about what Democrats are going to do about this. How they will defend against this charge, how they will counterattack."

I don't care about equal good news or equal candidate boosting. Mainly, I want more of a balance in terms of analysis of strategy. I think that's fair.

Posted by: DDAWD | July 23, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

DDAWD,

all my point is, CC is a starting point and anyone who believes there need to be a more balance view of wants to extend the discussion to a more complete picture needs to do this - which is what you did -

This allows people to compare your post to CC's and form their own opinion. So I will repost it because I believe it ads to the discussion that way I believe CC intended it to:

" #2 Have Harry Reid's ads been posted on The Fix? They should have been. They are incredibly effective and probably play a large role in Angle's poor polling.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqlfjMQVAE8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Da3EyDoYJS0

Essentially, they make use of Angle's own words saying that it is not the job of a US Senator to create jobs.

But it goes to show the mess Republicans have made of this election. Reid was dead and buried."

DDAWD 12:08

Posted by: bobbywc | July 23, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Sharron Angle likes to fancy herself a "Tom Coburn" type candidate, which is one of the reasons she hired this firm to do her commercials. But she is anything but. I don't agree with Tom's politics, but at least he is a likable and whip-smart guy, who seems sincere when he's talking to you. Ms. Angle's appearance in this commercial shows just what an empty vessel she as, as she flaps her lips using all the GOP talking points -- but says nothing.

At the same time, I continue to be amazed with Nevada citizens of all stripes, who actually thought they could go on thriving in the desert and continue to "grow their economy" on the faux backs of gambling and "housing starts." It's over folks. When oil prices eventually spike again, how will you cool your McMansions and your casinos? Where will you grow food? And where will your water come from? Eventually, Nevada will be given over to sagebrush and lizards.....

Posted by: overeasy | July 23, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

I agree. He would do a much, much better job selling the Republican Rising! if he made the competition dimensional, not just one side steamrolling the other.

Posted by: shrink2 | July 23, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Shrink, Chris C is basically like if John Madden decided to only draw circles on one team. He needs to draw more circles on Dems.

Posted by: DDAWD | July 23, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

"I suspect its more complicated..."

No doubt, but I have come to believe free trade that isn't free at all, like all bad habits, can be lethal and it needs to stop. One way or another that process is going to feel bad.

Posted by: shrink2 | July 23, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

BWC, hit control+F to open the search function. Type in DDAWD.

And hit enter until you find my post with the link to Reid's ads.

Or you can scroll. I think I posted them at about noon. Whatever works for you.

Posted by: DDAWD | July 23, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Ψ writes
"But maybe things are different now. People keep arguing a return to the Clinton era would be better than a return to Reaganomics. Sure, but I don't think we have either option and austerity will be forced upon us by our circumstances, neither political party will do it."

We agree on that; I think its possible to thread the needle too - not try to return to some imaginary better time, but to fix the system without taking some of the drastic steps that the TEA types talk about (or Brooks' excessive tarrifs).

"And so I have been wondering if we really do have "free trade" with the centrally controlled economies of the world, you know, the ones we supposedly beat into submission 20 years ago...Isn't our relationship with China already a sort of co-dependent trade war? They do not have our best interest in mind as they dump product and buy our debt. They have power in mind."

The question is how we extricate ourselves from that cycle without shooting ourselves in the foot. I suspect its more complicated than just shutting down free trade.

Posted by: bsimon1 | July 23, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Chris:


NONE of the other horrible bahavior on this blog has been addressed.


In addition - the harassment has continued.


The False Charges of Racism have to stop - the sterotyping has to stop. These are just provocations which CAUSE the fighting here - and cause people to want to change the subject.


These people are NOT engaging in discussions - they are attacking day in and day out.


I just want everyone to know that whenever broadwayjoe brings up "Gregory Charles Royal" - he is trying to call Sarah Palin a racist.


I believe that the False Charges of Racism on this board have gotten way out of control.


And that includes the use of sexual slurs against the Tea Party.


The democrats are constantly demanding that the Tea Party exercise restraint - HOWEVER THE DEMOCRATS DO NOT EXERCISE RESTRAINT IN THEIR ATTACKS ON THE TEA PARTY - FULL OF SLURS, SMEARS AND FALSE CHARGES OF RACISM.


This is one major problem on this board as well.


I object - broadwayjoe and ddawd have violated the terms of service on this board dozens of times - there has been no enforcement.


Everyone else has to endure this kind of behavior - and it has been dealt with the way it has -


To blame one party in this situation is just wrong.


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Posted by: YouCanPostThis | July 23, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Lonewacko - I know by your name you are creative - I love it.

your post is when blogging works best - whether I agree with your comment or not it is still a great comment which raises a great issue

thanks for hearing me.

side story - after Waco my aunt who spoke limited English asked me if it were true someone in our family joined a church like the one in Wacko, Texas - I laughed so hard - she was not insulting anyone - she just had a pronunciation problem

Posted by: bobbywc | July 23, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Wwhat does Angle says she will do or accomplish? Nothing -- all she can do is knock Reid. She doesn't beleive in government, so why should she be paid to do nothing? Why not elect a dog or a parrot then?

Reid at least has a actual COHERENT MESSAGE-- from his website"

'Senate Votes $30 Billion in Small-Business Aid

New York Times, 7/23/10 - The Senate voted on Thursday to include a proposed $30 billion lending program in a package of aid for small businesses, as two Republicans joined with Democrats to support the amendment.

Reid: New projects restore jobs, boost NV economy

My News 4, 7/23/10 - Nevada Senator Harry Reid announced Thursday the Senate Appropriations committee approved $295 million for Nevada as part of the Energy and Water Appropriations bill. A press release from Sen. Reid's office reports that the money will go toward clean energy, water, and national security projects in Nevada. The funding includes $2.5 million to shut down Yucca Mountain.

Recently we learned that 25,446 Nevadans have collected $186,224,568 in tax credits from the first-time homebuyer tax credit program in the last two years. I'm glad to see that this program, which I led to passage in the Senate, has been so successful in Nevada.

In addition to reducing the excess inventory of homes, it is helping to boost our state's economy by providing an incentive for people to buy a home. It is my hope that this program has provided the shot in the arm Nevada's housing market needs so it can continue to stabilize and start to recover.

To learn more, read the Reno Gazette Journal's review of the program.

It is also worth noting that taxes are at their lowest level in 60 years. Read the CBS News story for more details on the tax cuts I fought for and won in last year's Recovery Act."


Posted by: drindl | July 23, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

"...it's supposed to be balanced..."

Hold the phone. It is? Where does it say The Fix is or has to be or even should be balanced? The Fix is in the Opinion/Columns/Blogs section of the paper.

I think the WaPo decided a long time ago that balanced = out of business. Why? Opinion sells (Fox model). So they embedded bias in their political news columns. I could go on about how liberal Ezra and Joel are, but it is too obvious.

Get a grip people, this is a Republican Rising piece, the Democrats are foils, they are not the story. It is ok. We don't need good news about Democrats pasted in here all day. We know.

Posted by: shrink2 | July 23, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Here's my discussion of the ad:

http://24ahead.com/n/10130

1. She must think Reid is Superman.

2. She refuses to really go after Reid on one of his weakest issues: immigration. She needs to lay off the fringe economic theories and go after him on his unpopular (or could-be-unpopular) immigration position.

If, after reading the link, you agree do me a favor: send a tweet @SharronAngle letting her know.

Posted by: LonewackoDotCom | July 23, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

DDAWD, I do not know what this control f thing is about, but I do not you are still not discussing what is right about Reid, that is what I want to read from you

But I have to go - just post what is right about Reid as opposed to saying CC is not -

Bobby WC

Posted by: bobbywc | July 23, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

BWC, CTRL+F my name. I posted the Reid ads earlier.

But this blog is supposed to be about the horse race. The sport of politics. I don't care that Chris C doesn't cover policy issues any more than I don't care that Wilbon doesn't write about economics, which is presumably more important than how the Wizards will fare this season.

But if we want to use the sports analogy, we want analysis of both teams. Angle has her ads out, but so does Reid. I don't care about hearing good news for Democrats. I just want to know what both sides are doing. I don't just want to hear about one side. Republicans are trying to gain power, but presumably Democrats are trying to keep them from doing it. There are two sides here. Let's hear both of them.

There are times where people bend over backwards in an attempt to be balanced when there is no balance to be had. This is not one of those times. Reid has a political game plan. Let's get some insight into it. The race isn't just about Angle and what she is doing.

Posted by: DDAWD | July 23, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Noacoler,

I agree 100% the Rpublicans do not care if they destroy our country - their leaders are using race as a political game - but that does not make them racists - it makes them sick and anti-American.

But again - it is for us to challenge CC on substance and not complaints of bias.

I want you to win converts to your position - this is why I so push the issue of substance.

And yes even I get dragged into the nonsense too often - this allows them to win on the distraction.

So why we complain about the bias, we never speak to the substance - I know you understand me and know I am right

Substance and dismiss the radical right - do not allow them to control our discussion in they way they controlled the sherrod issue until outed

Posted by: bobbywc | July 23, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Dead , you know why you have no credibility, and why I know you are not a conservative, because reality eludes you - true conservatives respect reality.

Your comment and then the reality.

"dependent on the VA for care it takes years of endless appointments for them to address the simplest problems

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I sure wish my health care was like that.
I guess I can wait a year or two for that part of ObunglerCare to kick in."

The VA's are run by the state medical schools. In Texas our universities are run by political appointees. In the case of Texas that means people originally appointed under Bush II, and Governor Perry - both republicans.

The problem is not the VA per se - it is incompetent medical school staffers who find it acceptable that it takes 16-20 months for a veteran to get an appointment, be given a follow-up appointment after requested testing, to be put on a possible medication, to only learn it is not working and then to have their next follow-up appointment to only have additional testing done to wait another 4 months to find out the results and then maybe be treated - and this cylce continues every 4-6 months.

I cannot speak for any medical school or VA except for the Dallas and San Antonio VA's - they should be shuddered now because incompetence is all they have to offer veterans. Again who runs these facilities - Republican appointees and who are our two US Senators who refuse to address the problems - Cornyn and Hutchison - so blame Obama all you want but in Texas it is a Republican problem.

Facts matter - and no true conservative would be so dismissive of reality

Posted by: bobbywc | July 23, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

don't let the trash can lid hit you on the way out Ped.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

3. ChrisFox/Noa: The comparison between you and 37th is based on your desire to return repeatedly under other names despite being banned. I continue to be baffled as to why you spend so much time getting back to a blog you disdain so much but that's another conversation.

By early next week, hopefully 37th, noa and others who clearly violate the rules of the comments section will be gone

Posted by: Chris_Cillizza | July 15, 2010 8:05 AM

Posted by: Dead_and_Barryd | July 23, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Chris:


NONE of the other horrible bahavior on this blog has been addressed.


In addition - the harassment has continued.


The False Charges of Racism have to stop - the sterotyping has to stop. These are just provocations which CAUSE the fighting here - and cause people to want to change the subject.


These people are NOT engaging in discussions - they are attacking day in and day out.


I just want everyone to know that whenever broadwayjoe brings up "Gregory Charles Royal" - he is trying to call Sarah Palin a racist.


I believe that the False Charges of Racism on this board have gotten way out of control.


And that includes the use of sexual slurs against the Tea Party.


The democrats are constantly demanding that the Tea Party exercise restraint - HOWEVER THE DEMOCRATS DO NOT EXERCISE RESTRAINT IN THEIR ATTACKS ON THE TEA PARTY - FULL OF SLURS, SMEARS AND FALSE CHARGES OF RACISM.


This is one major problem on this board as well.


I object - broadwayjoe and ddawd have violated the terms of service on this board dozens of times - there has been no enforcement.


Everyone else has to endure this kind of behavior - and it has been dealt with the way it has -


To blame one party in this situation is just wrong.


.

Posted by: YouCanPostThis | July 23, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Save the defensive tone, Bobby, this isn't zouk you're talking to here.

Yeah this is a comment blog. That's why I post here and no I'm not here to gain supporters any more than I'm here to do battle with enemies. I post here because I enjoy writing and expressing my views. Sometimes I get drawn into the interpersonal junk but I try hard not to, there's no point getting wrapped around the axle over sick people. I'll just sicken myself and I won't change them.

But the fact that this blog is so slanted is germane. This isn't redstate, it isn't stormfront, this is the Washington Post, one of five remaining major papers in the country and this is supposed to be a column about current politics, and it's supposed to be balanced. It's not. It makes no pretense of balance.

If the title was "GOP Cheerleading Section" or "Let's Fawn Over Republicans In Suits" it would be one thing, but it's called "The Fix," which is probably an play on the execrably insensitive slang "political junkie," that "political junkies" come here to get their dose, their fix.

The bias is offensive on its own but it's especially so now given that the Republican Party has arrived at such a destructive and malicious state. Siding with them is siding with the decline and the fall of our country into ruin, and pardon me but I object like hell to that.

Posted by: Noacoler | July 23, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

"...no one looks to anyones comments here and forms policy (thank god)..."

I choked on my rice cracker. Thanks for the laugh bobby, stay cool down there.

Posted by: shrink2 | July 23, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

It is amazing how many commentators have missed the point about Shirley Sherrod


Obama's people were afraid their strategy for the Fall of PLAYING THE RACE CARD would be exposed - and shredded.


The whole idea of the party in power attempting to "energize" their base by stirring up racial controveries is ridiculous.

AND that is EXACTLY WHAT PRODUCED THE SHIRLEY SHERROD SITUATION.

The NAACP resolution was the starting point for all of this.


Clear and simple.

Some people get it - Many liberals are trying to ignore that central reality.

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Posted by: YouCanPostThis | July 23, 2010 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Bobby is trying to teach a fish how to sing.

Posted by: Dead_and_Barryd | July 23, 2010 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Thank you Blarg, you make good sense, as usual. Thanks.

Posted by: shrink2 | July 23, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

DDAwn, but you completely miss your opportunity here - CC is not banning your from showing why and how Reids ads are better. this is the point of a discussion - it is for you to link to those ads and then give a short compare and contrast - that allows the readers to see the difference - again to the extent the Reid ads do not appear in this discussion it is because no one is posting them

Again CC only is providing a starting point - now take my suggestion - link to a Reid ad and do a simple compare an contrast - this will do a lot more to help Reid than all of this complaining - "give me substance or give me Makers Mark: because I will need to ladder to deal with the non substance

Posted by: bobbywc | July 23, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

noacoler - you completely miss the point of a blog commentary.

CC sets out a discussion and it is for people to set out their opinion in a reasoned way without complaining about bias - I am not stupid i do not need anyone to tell me who is and who is not biased - I can read their words and decide for myself without superior guidance from elsewhere.

So what if CC is more republican than Democratic - just post your comments with substantive ideas and commentary without complaining whose side he is taking - reason your position and gain supporters

This is a commentary blog - that's it - no one looks to anyones comments here and forms policy (thank god) it is about an opportunity for a diverse group of people from all over the world, I presume to chime in.

Why do I like these blogs regardless of slant - I get to read what a diverse group of Americans think - this is why I hate the nonsense and name calling - neither gives me a good pulse on the diversity of ideas and opinions which make up the mosaic which is this country.

If I decide what I see posted here is American then I will have to abandoned ship because as they say "we are scr.wed"

Posted by: bobbywc | July 23, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Cilizza

It must now be clear to you as well as everyone else that Drivl and the Pedant should be running this blog, not you.

Please comply immediately and surrender the nuclear codes to them before COB.

Posted by: Dead_and_Barryd | July 23, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Sometimes mibrooks/MikeB claims to be a loyal and honest Democrat. He talks about how he supports Democratic candidates, knocking on doors for Edwards and Obama, and how he wants a Swedish-style single-payer healthcare system.

Then he turns around and says that Ron Paul and Tom Tancredo are the only candidates that understand what American voters REALLY want. He rants against woman's rights, gay rights, immigration, free trade, and everything that every Democrat has ever done.

So he's not a Tea Partier. If he's honest, then he has extremely idiosyncratic political views, which don't match those of any politician or political party. It's also possible that he's exaggerating or lying about his beliefs. And as a side note, if you disagree with him he'll call you horrible names and make up all kinds of ridiculous claims about your background and motivation.

Posted by: Blarg | July 23, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

BWC, my issue is that Reid has been putting out ads. Very good ads. Very hard hitting ads. Ads I feel that are game changers. I'm not someone who believes that for every story about the left, he needs one about the right.

But the Reid ads are quite germane and fall right in the wheelhouse of what this blog is supposed to be covering. I don't think Chris needed to mention the Reid ads because he mentioned Angle ads. I think he needed to mention the Reid ads because they are frickin important. I think it's pretty convincing evidence of bias. Bias doesn't have to be damning, but let's not pretend it's not there either.

Posted by: DDAWD | July 23, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Also, is there any point in complaining about the Right Wing Rising! editorial slant of The Fix? That is part of the attraction, we are like flies on shıt, but we don't want to call attention to that, do we?

Posted by: shrink2 | July 23, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

"conspiracy theories," bobby? How exactly does that fit in? Please endeavor to make sense.

The criticism has nothing to do with conspiracy and theory implies some remaining doubt. There is none, Journalistic integrity is entirely absent from this blog. As the Admiralty said of Capt. Bligh's sense of justice, it be not aboard.

When the passage of healthcare reform is ignored in favor of a fawning piece about some rerun mediocrity of a senator labeled "the anti-Obama," when Rep. Barton's vile apology to BP was ignored to leave room for a story about a Republican governor nobody cares about endorsing a Repulican governor nobody ever heard of, when Angle's whining DOA ad gets an embed while Reid's blistering ones barely get a mention, journalistic integrity is nowhere in sight.

"Conspiracy" doesn't fit in anywhere.

I've gotten to know a few people on here outside the blog. Worth noting that not a one of them reads the blog entries more than occasionally. And it isn't because we're afraid we'll read something we don't agree with.

Posted by: Noacoler | July 23, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

@mibrooks27

Thanks for the info.

By the way, I am leaning in your direction about the economy. I saw some of your predictions and I've been doing a bit of reaseach. Scary stuff.

Posted by: ModerateVoter | July 23, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

@mibrooks27

Thanks for the info.

By the way, I am leaning in your direction about the economy. I saw some of your predictions and I've been doing a bit of reaseach. Scary stuff.

Posted by: ModerateVoter | July 23, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Oh whooops, guess I don't pay attention.
I didn't know milbrooks ("Mike", right?) is a tea party person. Sorry, I thought he might have had some angle (sorry) that had not been given its due perhaps as a result of his ragin'phrasin'. But if he is tea party person, 'nuff said.

Posted by: shrink2 | July 23, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Get in line victims. there is now a waiting list for apologies from Messiah.

all liberals who FEEL they need an apology about something, please find someone to blame for your condition, while you wait.

the window closes in November 2012 so hurry up and get all the free government stuf you can while it is still available.

Here are some suggestions about who to blame for the inept performance by big liberal government:

Bush
Fox
Big Oil
Wall street
Republican stonewallers
activist supreme court
Chris cilizza and the extreme right wing media
Breitbart
racism
deregulation
Reagan tax cuts
huge deficit ( must be cagey about this one)
peaceful Christians
greedy surgeons
tea partiers
greens fees

Posted by: Dead_and_Barryd | July 23, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

bobbywc


That is why "don't ask don't tell" IS such a good compromise.


Under this compromise, no one is telling gays they can not serve -

Instead, they are being told that they can not voice - and thereby a whole range of gay issues are sidestepped.

It is a COMPROMISE - which means that NEITHER side gets everything they want.

Yea, the gays don't get everything they want - but that is what a COMPROMISE IS.

It appears the GAY COMMUNITY DOES NOT WANT TO COMPROMISE -

And here lies the rubs - and goes to what Rachel Maddow was saying - NO COMPROMISE.


Posted by: YouCanPostThis | July 23, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Look I want Reid to win and I think he will - but why is CC posting a story about one of the most important campaigns in the Senate evidence of his bias for one side or the other.

This is why our Congress is at a standstill - we cannot even talk without being accused of being biased for one side or the other.

Again people these postes are suppose to be a starting point for intellegent conversations and not endless conspiracy theories about journalistic integrity

Posted by: bobbywc | July 23, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Yeah actually embedding that utterly lackluster whine of an ad while only mentioning Reid's hard-hitting and clearly effective ads isn't just slanted, it's about seven miles past the little hamlet of Slanted and right in the middle of downtown Bizarre.

Daniel Schorr was a reporter. Cillizza is a sycophant for the Republican Party, simply amazing he gets paid for this junk.

Posted by: Noacoler | July 23, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Chris, notice how one poster, 'Dead' -- very apt -- continues to do nothing here but insult other posters, unprovoked,over and over again.

Clearly, it is because they have an effective message and he is trying to divert attention from that, but it distracts everyone else from having a discussion.

You say discussion is what you want, so why do you allow the endless infantile attacks to continue?

Obviously, this individual has nothing to add to the discussion, only hate.

Posted by: drindl | July 23, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

YCPT,

what is it with you and reality - do you really believe people cannot check these things.

'A CNN poll showed that 78 percent, or nearly 8 in 10 Americans believe people who are openly gay should be allowed to serve in the U.S. military."

now, do I believe this poll should guide the policy - no - polls and the desires of the troops should never guide military policy - period - which was maddow's point

Bobby WC

Posted by: bobbywc | July 23, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Ped, you were banned numerous times. Yet you return to complain about how Cilizza won't take out the trash. the problem is that you keep coming back inside.

Posted by: Dead_and_Barryd | July 23, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Chris, Chris, Chris,

I know you are anxious to report Reid has lost in an anti-incumbent (read anti-democrat) Tsunami but Angle generating one TV ad is not news. Nice of you to link it for her here too.

Her continuing to avoid the press, even at press conferences, still is news for other news outlets.

Posted by: mariewilson11 | July 23, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Well, so much for the new and improved Comments section. Spamming worse than ever, personal attacks savage as ever.

If Cillizza had any interest in making this better it would be better, we all know who the offenders are, we all know how easy it is to take out the trash, but every day we have to wade past column-kilometers of carriage returns and caps and childish name-calling. Nothing changes.

Posted by: Noacoler | July 23, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

bobbywc


Yea, I saw Rachel Maddow - and I heard her point.


And I say - civil rights is VASTLY different from gay rights.

And the health care analogy has been abused as well.


Forcing men to be naked in the shower with gay men is just one example.

Yes - everybody complains that the military is not the place for social experimentation - I know the gay community thinks it is.


The gay community simply REFUSES to understand a few things - the kids are watching.

People DO NOT want to teach their children about gay sex at a young age.


It is NOT RIGHT.

However, we have a slippery slope in which gay marriage leads to gay families - LEADS TO DEMANDS THAT SCHOOLS TEACH GAY SEX AT INAPPROPRIATE AGES.


There is a general lack of respect in the gay community towards these issues.

THESE ISSUES ARE JAMMED DOWN PEOPLE'S THROATS.

Rachel Maddow also made CLEAR that a majority of Americans did NOT agree with her - and she thought that what SHE wanted should be JAMMED DOWN EVERYONE'S THROATS.

Historically, homosexuals have not been a category recognized by the Constitution. That is clear. We have here an effort to make provisions of the Constitution mean something NOW that they were clearly NOT meant to mean AT THE TIME OF PASSAGE.

This is in sharp contrast to the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments - those amendments were CLEAR AT THE TIME TO APPLY TO RACIAL ISSUES - so there really was never a change in the meaning or who were covered with those provisions.


Everyone disagrees with Rachel Maddow - the whole country if you listen to her.

She doesn't care - which is the outrage of the whole thing.

This goes back to Journolist - create a deception, create a Fraud - and push through something that a MAJORITY does not agree with.

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Posted by: YouCanPostThis | July 23, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

"...brooks has been posting this stuff off and on for about 3 years."

True, but he gets shouted down every time. Maybe it is because he phrases his argument so angrily, "hell to pay," etc.

But maybe things are different now. People keep arguing a return to the Clinton era would be better than a return to Reaganomics. Sure, but I don't think we have either option and austerity will be forced upon us by our circumstances, neither political party will do it.

And so I have been wondering if we really do have "free trade" with the centrally controlled economies of the world, you know, the ones we supposedly beat into submission 20 years ago...Isn't our relationship with China already a sort of co-dependent trade war? They do not have our best interest in mind as they dump product and buy our debt. They have power in mind.

Posted by: shrink2 | July 23, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

"And why all the free advertising for Angle? Where is the link to Harry Reid's ads?

It's weird watching her. Her face is constantly contorted and twisted, as if she were in pain.

And by the way, I see an endless stream of racism and hate here today, bobby, and it isn't coming from the left.

Posted by: drindl"

Yeah, I don't get it. The Reid ads were absolute game changers. Fine, rush out the Angle ads if you want, but I'm absolutely astonished that the Reid ads were ignored on here. Think of Sestak's ad using Specter's soundbite on getting re-elected. The Reid ads were along the same lines. To use actual clips of Angle saying that she would not use her position as Senator to create jobs is just devastating in a state with as large of an unemployment problem as Nevada has.

I don't know how any political analyst ignores the Reid ads. That Angle ad doesn't come close.

Posted by: DDAWD | July 23, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

dependent on the VA for care it takes years of endless appointments for them to address the simplest problems

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I sure wish my health care was like that.
I guess I can wait a year or two for that part of ObunglerCare to kick in.

Posted by: Dead_and_Barryd | July 23, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Journalist Daniel Schorr has died at age 93.

You could learn something from Schorr, Cillizza, for example how to do your job.

Posted by: Noacoler | July 23, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

And now Michelle Bachman tells use what Republicans will do if they take the House.

Create jobs? Nah. Deal with national security and the threat of terrorism? Nah. Deal with the deficit, or any other problem facing the country? Nah.

All they want to do spend millions and millions of taxpayer dollars getting even with Democrats for winning the last election:


"Yesterday, Rep. Michelle Bachmann (R-MN) spoke to the GOP Youth Convention in Washington. One attendee asked Bachmann about what the Republicans will do if they win back the House:

QUESTION: I might be putting the cart before the horse here, but assuming the Republicans win the House back this next cycle, how do you feel now that the Republicans would have the subpoena power? How aggressive do you think?

BACHMANN: Well I think that’s all we should do. I think all we should do is issue subpoenas and have one hearing after another."

Posted by: drindl | July 23, 2010 2:29 PM | Report abuse

sorry for all the spelling problems guys- i am past my nap time - when you are dependent on the VA for care it takes years of endless appointments for them to address the simplest problems - right now it is 4-6 months between appointments for endocrinology and 8 months for a pain management procedure - so you sleep a lot waiting on appointments

Agsin sorry for the typos and spelling problems

Posted by: bobbywc | July 23, 2010 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Sharron Angle's ad certainly wouldn't inspire many people to vote for her. Her stage presence, both in appearance and in speech, come across as shabby and inept, like some welfare office caseworker talking down to a client or something. Her voice has the same sort of grating whine as Ron Paul.

And for those who care about such things, her supporters obviously not part of that demographic, she really makes no case. Unemployment rose while Harry Reid was Senator. Uh, it rose everywhere, not just Nevada. But then anyone still voting Republicans has to be a little sketchy on the whole logic thing.

Re: mibrooks' thesis .. yeah there's a core of important stuff there but the message is scattered and lost in his complete nonsense about the Tea Party being the way out. The TP he thinks is the last resistance to free trade is the same bunch of addled and angry jerks screaming that corporate taxes should be lowered. And screeding that the Democrats are just as bad as the Republicans completes the adulteration of the message, it's lost in angry tangents.

And any message against free trade needs to be particularly clear, which Mike completely fails to do, because it goes against

(1) 30 years of propagandizing about the glorious power of the marketplace, the deeply-rooted lie that left to its own our economy will arrive at wonderful outcomes beneficial to all.

(2) even worse, the reflexive American reverence for anything starting with "free." At this point Americans get the same euphoric tingle at free market, free speech, free trade, or free beer.

Strip out the junk, Mike, you sound like an idiot seeing salvation in the tea party, which is just a bunch of aging Jim Crow former Democrats and smokers seeing their lives flash before their eyes because the President isn't a good ol' boy southerner.

Posted by: Noacoler | July 23, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Chris until you can find a way to control this endless drivel .......
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mentioned by name.

the loon objects.

It seems only the leftist kooks are allowed to do as they please. all others, toe the line.

how's that working on your writing going? Can you sing the entire ABCs on your own yet?

Posted by: Dead_and_Barryd
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Bad news, drivel just got extended to 99 weeks.

Posted by: leapin | July 23, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Chris until you can find a way to control this endless drivel .......
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

mentioned by name.

the loon objects.

It seems only the leftist kooks are allowed to do as they please. all others, toe the line.

how's that working on your writing going? Can you sing the entire ABCs on your own yet?

Posted by: Dead_and_Barryd | July 23, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Democratic Senator calls for the end of affirmative action - saying it is hurting America

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/virginiapolitics/2010/07/webb_criticizes_affirmative_ac.html?hpid=topnews


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Posted by: YouCanPostThis | July 23, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

YCPT, your lack in interest is facts amazes - your obsession with jamming down the throat scares me - and on that note

you obviously have never been in the military - in most domestic bases today - communal showers are rare - when I was in basic in 1981 it is true 60 of us were rapidly walked through a horseshoe communcal shower - I can assure I was way too tired to notice anything

Further maddows point was - which you so conveniently leave out - after a survey was down the Anglos even attacked Jewish service members as being unfit to serve in the same units as Anglos - her point was the surverys conducted by the military only confirmed the ignorance - Truman to his credit decided that military policy has always been a top down thing where the troops follow orders and have no say in the decision making - this is what makes our military great.

So your shower story is full of water because communal showers are rare in today's barracks, and two that was not the point of her report.

This is what officers said in the survey about jews "When presented with the statement, there is nothing good about jews, 86% of the enlisted men surveyed agreed."

God save this country when surveys of the troops decide military policy

And that was the point of Maddow's piece, not jamming down your throat and men looking at each other's winkies

Bobby WC

Posted by: bobbywc | July 23, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

I see an endless stream of racism and hate here today

-drivl

Always gazing lovingly and fondly into the mirror. Still confused about first and third person though. Must be the voices again. Who am we?

Posted by: Dead_and_Barryd | July 23, 2010 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Chris Cilizza -- I thought you were going to eliminate the personal attacks on this blog? When will you address this childish behavior? You have certain people on here who do absolutely nothing but attack others constantly, often in sexually explicit ways. No other reputable newspaper allows this.

When will this moderation you promise go into effect?

Posted by: drindl | July 23, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse

And why all the free advertising for Angle? Where is the link to Harry Reid's ads?

It's weird watching her. Her face is constantly contorted and twisted, as if she were in pain.

And by the way, I see an endless stream of racism and hate here today, bobby, and it isn't coming from the left.

Posted by: drindl | July 23, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Maybe if you are an inmate of a mental institution.


Posted by: drivl | July 23, 2010 1:59 PM

Never fails to mention her credentials.

Posted by: Dead_and_Barryd | July 23, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse

There is another aspect to the Journolist situation


The LEFT HAS BEEN DECEIVED about what is neutral news.

Even on this blog, there is a constant set of complaints that the sland of the reporting is not far enough to the left.

Somehow, the Journolist has DECEIVED the left into believing that they DESERVE positive reporting - biased reporting.

So now the left is grumbling - and complaining when they do get unbiased reporting.


The left has been FOOLED into believing that the country really was turning left.

The country was not turning left - IF THE COUNTRY WAS TURNING LEFT, THE COUNTRY HAS CERTAINLY TURNED BACK.

The expectations have been DISTORTED.


To hear Rachel Madow - democracy should be thrown out the window - and the liberal agenda should be JAMMED DOWN EVERYONE'S THROATS.

See cited Truman's executive order integrating the military.

The problem with that is that forcing men to be naked in showers with gay men - that is NOT the same thing as racial integration.

Suddenly to the left, every issue they have has the gravity of civil rights - that health care and gay rights are the same thing as civil rights.

That is simply not the case.

Again, the problem with Journolist is that the LEFT has been deceived - they have gotten the wrong impression as to where the country is - and what the country finds acceptable in this democracy.

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Posted by: YouCanPostThis | July 23, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

"That same poll showed Angle's unfavorablity ratings rocketing upward, a sign that Reid's aggressive television campaign against her had worked."

And this will continue, every time she opens her mouth. It has nothing to do with Reid's advertising and everything to do with radical and wackjob positions.

Telling young girls pregnant by her own fathers to 'make lemonade.'

Telling seniors their Social Security is welfare and that she wants to take it away.

Telling Nevandans she wants to bring all the nuclear waste from all around the country into their state.

Telling people if they don't like their representatives, they should assasinate them.

Mainstream? Maybe if you are an inmate of a mental institution.

Posted by: drindl | July 23, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

shrink2 writes
"I am not saying milbrooks is right and I am not saying he is wrong, he at least offers a break from the annoying roar of endlessly repetitive identical arguments/posts."


Yes and no. Yes, his posts are different from the inanity of the incessantly repeated talking points coming from the cut 'n pasters; no, in that brooks has been posting this stuff off and on for about 3 years.


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Posted by: bsimon1 | July 23, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Journolist PROVES AN ORGANIZED EFFORT TO HYJACK A SERIES OF NEWS PLATFORMS.

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Posted by: YouCanPostThis
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Nothing less than an attempt to subvert and destroy our democracy.

Posted by: leapin | July 23, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Dead_and_Barryd


Is there some sort of FEDERAL CRIME which covers what the people on Journalist did ?


Obviously, on one level, they were conspiring to push a FRAUD on the American People.

To be specific, they were supposed to be reporting the news in an unbiased and neutral manner - clearly what they pushed on the American people was no unbiased and neutral.

So what is that ?


This was a DECEPTION TO DEFRAUD ACROSS STATE LINES.


It was interstate FRAUD.

Why is it FRAUD - because people are reading the news - believing it to be one thing - and what was delivered was something VASTLY and MATERIALLY DIFFERENT.

Obviously, the intention was to IMPROPERLY INFLUENCE THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.

I'm not sure if there is a Federal law covering that.

But it is a FRAUD - I am struck by the number of times the people on Journolist used the term "our platforms." And expressed their desires to issue out of those platforms a DECEPTIVE MESSAGE.

It is deceptive because they are supposed to be neutral - and just report the facts.

These platforms are NOT "theirs" - these people were employed by organizations which owned the platforms -


The "platforms" were misused and hyjacked.

Journolist PROVES AN ORGANIZED EFFORT TO HYJACK A SERIES OF NEWS PLATFORMS.


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Posted by: YouCanPostThis | July 23, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

If anyone wants to understand how this country got into this mess we are in all they need do is look atthis childish behavior coming from the right and the left. Reading these comments makes me think I am watching 5 year olds on the play ground all yelling "I'm telling."

Chris until you can find a way to control this endless drivel - you will find it hard to gain an audience of people interested in a real discussion.

The Fix blog- American at its worst - and I am not talking about the posts by Chris or his staff - they should be nothing more than a starting point for an intelligent conversation - but they are not - the posters insist on this childish behavior of distraction - presuming what the other is saying - and name calling

I am so tired of the right claiming the left assumes they are all racists and the left so willingly throwing out the term racist for no better reason than a lack of true critical thinking skills and trying to make political points

Yesterday mary matlin dived into her husband accusing everyone on the left of accusing the right as being racists - no Mary you are a liar - if your husband who is on the left thought you - on the right - were a racists he would not be with you.

Neither of us believe what you accuse us of - but it plays well with the handful of racists within the Repubican base - so you Mary make light of the real racism for political gain - shame on you.

And shame on all of the posters on the right and left herein who have made so light of the term - it no longer has any meaning

Bobby WC

Posted by: bobbywc | July 23, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

DDunce is exploring new depths of idiocy now.

Anyone who thinks a liberal congress is ever going to balance a budget is crazy or stupid or both. It has never happened. never!

If you think Ms Peloony 'wave my hands uncontrollably in the air' is going to do this, you need help.

Posted by: Dead_and_Barryd | July 23, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

The stimulus was supposed turn the economy around, limit unemployment to 8%, and prevent a deepening recession. It has accomplished nothing of the sort. The economy is effectively frozen, with business mesmerized by Obama's increasingly frenetic antics. Unemployment is officially above 10%, and in truth much higher. Though commentators keep insisting that we're not in for a double-dip recession, it's apparent to anyone with two eyes that the second slump actually kicked in at the end of Spring. The reasons for this aren't difficult for anybody apart from a government economist to work out. Much of the $860+ billion (simply trying to nail the exact number down is a chore in itself. I've found anything from $787 billion to $866 billion) was awarded to Obama's supporters in the financial industry and the unions, which automatically removed it from any productive use. The remnant was scattered across the country with no rational form of targeting, going to things like earmarks, environmental programs, and affirmative action projects. For all the effect it's had, that money may as well have been taken and tossed into the Marianas Trench. The sole thing that the stimulus succeeded in doing was to remove three-quarters of a trillion dollars from the working economy, where it could have been used for capitalization and hiring, and to pay down debts.


In the rest of the world, a large number of countries that attempted no such thing as a stimulus -- including Canada, much of Latin America, and much of Southern Asia -- are now back on their feet. Obama's response has been to beg the EU to increase its spending, more to act as a cover for his own actions than anything constructive. Angela Merkel, the EU's de facto economic head, quite rightly told him to take a hike.


That's a triumph? As Pyrrhus said after whipping the Romans at Heraclea, "Another such victory and we are undone!"

Posted by: Dead_and_Barryd | July 23, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

"He's done more for unemployment," she tells a group of people in a town hall-like setting..."

Compare this to Ms. Shoe-in-the-Mouth telling one of her own supporter in her own gathering that finding jobs for unemployed was not her responsibility!

Posted by: kishorgala | July 23, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

The unbearable whiteness of being on Journolist (important update)
Thomas Lifson

The left wing cabal to manage the news known as Journolist is apparently guilty if one of the cardinal sins of the left: lack of diversity. Big Fur Hat, the comic genius who posts regularly on iOwnTheWorld.com, has assembled head shots of the publicly identified members of the listserv group, and guess what? Not a single African-American is to be found.

Of course, many members' identities still remain to be uncovered. They are so ashamed oif their behavior that they cower in the shadows. Perhaps there are a few African-Americans who will step forward and identify themselves, just to prove this wasn't a racially exclusionary group


http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=29858

Posted by: Dead_and_Barryd | July 23, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Shrink, for austerity to occur, we need two things to happen.

1) The recession ends and the unemployment rate falls to below 5%

2) Democrats remain in power

It's pretty obvious that Republicans have no interest in austerity. Their party leadership is saying that tax cuts shouldn't be paid for.

Democrats are willing to do so. Clinton balanced the budget. And when you look at Obama legislation not dealing with the recession, namely health care and finreg, the CBO has said that both of those will cut down on the deficit. Meanwhile, the same CBO has cited Bush tax cuts as one of the largest contributors to the deficit.

Austerity at this point in time is just asinine. It has never worked in ending a recession.

And I promise you, if Republicans take the House, the first thing they do is pass a giant stimulus.

Posted by: DDAWD | July 23, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Ddawd

Im taking it up with you.


Take some personal responsibility and look at yourself.

Have you ever called Rev. Wright a racist?


Have you ever called black people racist ?


NO - you reserve all your racist attacks for white people - which is RACIST.

In addition to that, you have been harassing other posters on this blog for over two years.

YOU are the problem - not anyone else.

No one wants to hear your garbage anymore.

Last night, you were falsely calling someone else racist - with slightest of evidence.

All we get from you is attacks.

There is no desire for racial progess in anything you say - all you are doing is attack people.

And by the way - people are allowed to oppose Obama without being racist.


It is people like YOU ARE ARE SPOILING THE ATMOSPHERE by implying that any opposition to Obama is based on his skin color.

Being Post-Racial REQUIRES PUTTING THAT CRAP BEHIND.

YOU are not mature enough to handle a BLACK PRESIDENT - it is that simple.


AND DDAWD, YOU AND BROADWAYJOE ARE RACISTS.

Plain and simple.


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Posted by: YouCanPostThis | July 23, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Democrats did their best to provoke an ugly confrontation by marching a (shockingly undiverse) group of black Democrats right through the middle of the anti-ObamaCare protest. But they didn't get one, so the media just lied and asserted Lewis was called the N-word. (If they wanted to hear the N-word so badly, they should have sent the congressional delegation to a Jay-Z concert.)

Indeed, news anchor after news anchor has indignantly claimed to have footage of the incident, teasing viewers by saying, "We'll get that right up" or claiming personally to have seen the video -– and then you watch the whole program without ever seeing footage of anyone calling Lewis the N-word.

Dateline: April 18, 2010, CNN's Don Lemon: "We have the tape here at CNN. I saw it on CNN's 'State of the Union.'" And yet, Lemon never got around to showing viewers that tape. IF YOU HAVE THE TAPE, DON, CLAIM YOUR $100,000 REWARD!

And now this week, with the NAACP accusing the Tea Partiers of harboring racists, and conservatives demanding proof, the George Soros-backed Center for American Progress ran a 45-second video allegedly showing racism at the Tea Parties.

One of the videos shows an obvious liberal plant announcing, "I'm a proud racist!" Apparently this was their best shot, because they had to work this video into the montage twice, amid utterly innocuous posters, for example, saying, "God bless Glenn Beck." So I guess they didn't have anything better.

Here's the part Soros' people didn't show you: In the fuller video shown on the Glenn Beck show, the Tea Partiers surrounded the (liberal plant) racist, jeering at him, telling him he's not one of them and to go home. In a spectacularly evil fraud, all that was edited out.

Just hours later on MSNBC, Chris Matthews was loudly proclaiming that he would believe the Tea Partiers weren't racist when he sees "just one of those Tea Party people pull down one of those racist signs at the next Tea Party rally. I'm going to just wait. Reach over, grab the sign and tear it out of the guy's hands. Then I will believe you."

Well, here it was. The (liberal plant) racist was driven from the Tea Party by the Tea Partiers. But you won't see that. Like USDA official Shirley Sherrod's apparently racist comments excerpted this week from what was, in fact, a commendable speech about racial reconciliation, the alleged Tea Party racism was, literally, "taken out of context."


Will drain me post hundreds of cut and hate about this fraud?

Posted by: Dead_and_Barryd | July 23, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Obama's Poll Numbers Down, Imaginary Racism Up

Posted by: Dead_and_Barryd | July 23, 2010 1:10 PM | Report abuse

I am not saying milbrooks is right and I am not saying he is wrong, he at least offers a break from the annoying roar of endlessly repetitive identical arguments/posts.

Fact is, the argument about whether we should return to Reagan/Bush/Cheney versus Clinton is moot, we can't.

Austerity is coming, consumption will cost a lot more, the only question is what form austerity will take, who will pay how much more for what goods and services? The new normal is going to be slow, steady economic growth (the sustainable kind), if we get lucky.

The question of whether economic and foreign policy isolationism in general would be good for this country, would be good for the new normal, is an open question. Historical arguments and analogies, may or may not be relevant. Best not to be dismissive of any option, when they all look very different from the way the way forward used to look.

Posted by: shrink2 | July 23, 2010 1:10 PM | Report abuse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ar09czbfE8o

New Alvin Greene video. Pretty hard hitting stuff.

Posted by: DDAWD | July 23, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

ModerateVoter -- The 15% is a worst case study from European sources. It is what Germany is seeing with their version of SH right now. Of course, they also are the single healthiest western economy even given their absorbing that enormous welfare case known as East Germany.

And, if you look at any number of academic articles on the subject, most economic models show virtually no consumer price increases resulting from trade tariffs, even high ones matching those 100% rates China and India have on electronic and computer imports.

In order to survive, we need high import duties on every class of service or manufactured goods imported, and not merely nuisance tariffs, tariffs high enough to discourage those imports, encourage their production in this country.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | July 23, 2010 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Milbrooks, thanks. I'll read it when I get the chance.

37th, take it up with Chris.

Posted by: DDAWD | July 23, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

DDAWD -
Her is an academic piece on the minimal effects of tariffs,on consumer prices --http://www.nber.org/~confer/2010/ITIs10/Irwin.pdf

as for GDP growth figures, look at the published stats from the U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis. GDP *grew* from from 58 to 73 billion between 1932 (SH didn't take effect until 1931 and the effect's weren't seen until early 1932). GDP continued to grow and hit 92 billion by 1937 when Roosevelt's Democratic COngress gutted it. GDP fell by more than 10% the next year and unemployment rose from 10% to 18% IN ONE YEAR.

As for the export/import argument, in 1936 exports fell by 2%, imports fell by 3% and the economy grew at a rate of 16%! Virtually everything written by the neocon-multinationalist-Wall Street free traders about Smoot Hawley and protectionism is nonsense. For an even better analysis, I suggest you read about the Panic of 1893, which eerily resembles the present mess. McKinley's Treasury Secretary enacted tariffs of 50% or more on imports and punitive taxes on offshore investments (1896) which resulted in the end of that horrible depression by 1898...two short years. The point is, protectionism works very well and we NEED IT! If that sparks a "trade war", that's just a bonus.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | July 23, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

ddawd


Have you ever called Rev. Wright a racist ??


NO - you reserve all your racism charges for white people.

This is the way you attack white people day after day.

That I find to be racist.

It is difficult to constantly see someone on this blog making false charges of racism - when in fact the real problem is your racism against white people.

When you make your false charges of racism, you are looking to make racial progress, you are just looking to attack someone.

That is not progress, that is attack, day in and day out.

Just last night you were calling someone else racist. You don't know these people. You don't have any evidence. You are sterotyping - you are throwing on the charges based on the slightest of evidence.

Who cares?

You are mistaking little tiny comments - and calling that racist. The REAL RACISM was the KKK - lynchings - hanging blacks from trees - all the atrocities which took place.

THAT STUFF IS NOT GOING ON NOW.


And yet you, broadwayjoe and others are on your daily witchhunt.

I would like to speak FOR THE REST OF THE COUNTRY - WE ARE SICK OF IT - TAKE YOUR GARBAGE AND LEAVE THE COUNTRY FOR ALL WE CARE.

NO ONE WANTS TO LISTEN TO IT ANYMORE.

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Posted by: YouCanPostThis | July 23, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

37th, I don't control who gets banned. Chris C does. But he doesn't read this message board. Email him if you are serious about getting me banned.

Posted by: DDAWD | July 23, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Ddawd


YOU have been harassing people on this blog for two and a half YEARS.


What are you talking about?

How many times have you been told to leave other posters alone ????

You must be stupid. I think you are.

.

Posted by: YouCanPostThis | July 23, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

@mibrooks27

I believe you understate the impacts of a trade war. What is left of our manufacturing sector will suffer greatly and the food exports will get slammed hard. First thing they will do is go after our farmers and the food producers.

Where did that 15% come from by the way?

Posted by: ModerateVoter | July 23, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

37th

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/eye-on-2012/-is-former-alaska-gov.html

If you want to get me banned, I left instructions in that post as to how to do it. Just CTRL-F DDAWD

Posted by: DDAWD | July 23, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Chris:


NONE of the other horrible bahavior on this blog has been addressed.


In addition - the harassment has continued.


The False Charges of Racism have to stop - the sterotyping has to stop. These are just provocations which CAUSE the fighting here - and cause people to want to change the subject.

These people are NOT engaging in discussions - they are attacking day in and day out.

I just want everyone to know that whenever broadwayjoe brings up "Gregory Charles Royal" - he is trying to call Sarah Palin a racist.


I believe that the False Charges of Racism on this board have gotten way out of control.


And that includes the use of sexual slurs against the Tea Party.


The democrats are constantly demanding that the Tea Party exercise restraint - HOWEVER THE DEMOCRATS DO NOT EXERCISE RESTRAINT IN THEIR ATTACKS ON THE TEA PARTY - FULL OF SLURS, SMEARS AND FALSE CHARGES OF RACISM.


This is one major problem on this board as well.


I object - broadwayjoe and ddawd have violated the terms of service on this board dozens of times - there has been no enforcement.


Everyone else has to endure this kind of behavior - and it has been dealt with the way it has -


To blame one party in this situation is just wrong.


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Posted by: YouCanPostThis | July 23, 2010 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Milbrooks, I know you have some toxic aversion to providing sources, but got any for those SH numbers you just posted?

Posted by: DDAWD | July 23, 2010 12:10 PM | Report abuse

bsimon1 _ yes, 15% is slight and that is the maximum. It would add a nickel to a head of lettuce, it would result in *cheaper* energy costs, and it would mean millions of jobs, federal tax revenues that would balance the budget, social stability and a lower crime rate, a revitalized country.

Face it. What the voters want, what I want, is the fiscal and foreign policies of a Ron Paul and the social policies of a moderate liberal like candidate Obama. They got neither and there will be hell to pay for that.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | July 23, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

http://www.amazon.com/Tommy-Holy-Schnike-Chris-Farley/dp/B0009W5J1O

#2 In the words of a great American, Holy Schnike!

It looks too good to be true.

1) It was a poll commissioned by Melancon. I'm not sure what to make of these polls, but Nate Silver on 538.com throws these polls out when generating his statistics. Given that he'll use just about any poll that wasn't commissioned by a candidate or party organization, it probably means we shouldn't put too much stock in it.

2) No other poll has Melancon even close. However, according to Wikipedia, the last poll was conducted a month ago. But it had Vitter up 53-35. Even for a Rasmussen poll, that's bad.

As much as I'd love to believe this to be true, it doesn't seem plausible. Hopefully this poll result will generate more national interest in the race and lead to some non-partisan polling.

It's worth mentioning that while Louisiana has an outward appearance of a red state, we have a pretty high Dem identification. Furthermore, us sending a Republican Senator to Washington is pretty unprecedented. Our last Republican Senator was appointed in 1876.

#2 Have Harry Reid's ads been posted on The Fix? They should have been. They are incredibly effective and probably play a large role in Angle's poor polling.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqlfjMQVAE8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Da3EyDoYJS0

Essentially, they make use of Angle's own words saying that it is not the job of a US Senator to create jobs.

But it goes to show the mess Republicans have made of this election. Reid was dead and buried.

#3 In his 2006 challenge to Byrd, Raese took 34% of the vote to Byrd's 64%. It should be a closer race due to having no incumbent in a Republican year, but that's a lot of ground to make up.

#4 I think dummypants dost complain too much. We are talking about Jane Norton's own ad, not some cable news show debate.

Posted by: DDAWD | July 23, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

"The only negative I can see is ... a very slight increase in prices (around 15%, maximum)."


Ignoring that 15% sounds implausibly low, a 15% increase in consumer prices is 'slight'?


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Posted by: bsimon1 | July 23, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

FairlingtonBlade - Ah, yes, Smoot-Hawley and the dishonest writing about ti by free traders in the sophomoric Wiki trash. Please, do some original reading and thought. Prior to the passage of Smoot-Hawley GDP in the US had fallen by 45%. SUBSEQUENTLY it rose by at least 3.5% annually. Unemployment fell from an estimated high of 33% to 10%. When SH was abandoned, in 1937, right in the middle of the Lend-Lease build up, mind you, something that was creating thousands of jobs, millions of those jobs were outsourced or buying went overseas and the economy collapsed into an even worse depression, one we didn't really recover from until 1952.

Democrat's have traditionally been outsourcing, global economy nitwits. Republican's have traditionally been pro high tariff protectionists. Whenever Republican's joined with Democrat's in dumping tariff's we have collapsed into a depression (called a "Panic" before the 1930's). Smoot-Hawley was one of the effective pieces of legislation ever passed. It brought down unemployment and it jumped started a dead US economy. No amount of historical revisionism by neocconservative or multinational economic nitwits can change the facts. Look them up!

Posted by: mibrooks27 | July 23, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

ModerateVoter _ So what? A trade war wouldn't harm this country one bit. It would, in fact, be just about the healthiest thing that could happen. This country, our entire economy, depends at 80% on domestic spending. A grand total of 5.3% of our exports are of manufactured goods. And, as of June 30, a grand total of 30% of those domestically consumed goods and services were produced in this country. That's it! Free trade has cost us 45 million jobs since Clinton began that train wreck. End it and have a trade war! It would create millions of jobs right here at home. The only negative I can see is Obama's loss of being able to trade our jobs for foreign policy cooperation and a very slight increase in prices (around 15%, maximum). But, given the end of this depression and the strangulation of multinational corporations and their machinations that would result from cutting off their blood supply, can see no downside. Only a complete idiot can see a downside. Oh, and free trade WILL end...one way or another. The voters in polls, something like 85% of them, demand that it be ended. Any politician running away from that tidal wave is doomed. Expect, at the very least, sky high trade tariffs, your "trade war" where China dumps their discounted bonds and US investments (and it hardly is noticed), and a very quick return to economic stability in this country... oh, and expect Obama and ANYONE identified with him and hi economic policies to end up on the ash heap, right along with Bush and Clinton.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | July 23, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Sharon Angle doesn't seem so crazy...in fact, she seems pretty sane. She wants to stop Harry Reid and what could be less crazy than that.

Posted by: joelinpdx | July 23, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

@mibrooks27 - Look up Smoot Hawley.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoot%E2%80%93Hawley_Tariff_Act

I'll wait.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | July 23, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

"... Angle's ad notes, the state has struggled mightily on the economic front in recent years ..."
__________________

Either Republicans don't understand one single thing about economics, or they're just plain stupid.

Apparently, Angle just wants to overlook the 8 years of nonstop spending and borrowing, and running the country into the ground that the Republicans did during the Bush years, and they don't understand all that borrowed money has to be paid back.

While Republicans were in office they relaxed all the regulations and ended up causing the gulf oil spill due to their relaxed regulations.

Republicans played all their business tricks, gave all the tax breaks, did all their business, and if anything they did was of any benefit we would be enjoying those benefits now.

But, THE EXACT OPPOSITE happened. Republicans deregulation didn't help America, it hurt us, if that's what the Republicans are complaining about.

They already de-regulated everything, and forced America into a total collapse.

Posted by: lindalovejones | July 23, 2010 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Angle on free trade: "It is quite amazing that GATT is sowing the seeds for global social upheaval and that it is not even the subject of debate in America… If the masses understood the truth about GATT, there would be blood in the streets of many capitals. A healthy national economy has to produce a large part of its own needs. It cannot simply import what it needs and use its labor force to provide services for other countries. We have to rethink from top to bottom why we have elevated global free trade to the status of sacred cow, or moral dogma. It is a fatally flawed concept that will impoverish and destabilize the industrialized world while cruelly ravaging the Third World."

That is all the voters will care about. This is the position of Ron Paul and his son, the position of most real Tea Party leaders (as opposed to Republican operatives "speaking for" the Tea Party movement). In the end, desperate unemployed people and their friends and relatives, and remember REAL unemployed is right now at 22%, will vote Tea Party, Nothing else matters. Harry Reid is a clueless old fool,a free trade, job outsourcing nitwit, and deserves to loose. If I was in charge of the Angle campaign, I would beat that drum in every ad and Reid would end up on the trash heap.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | July 23, 2010 11:12 AM

Trying to implement what you are talking about would lead to some sort of massive trade war would it not? A widget costs 50% less in China to make. How do you make it cost competitive to make it in the USA?

Do not get me wrong. I am all for made in America and I go out of my way to do it.

Posted by: ModerateVoter | July 23, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Chris:


I just want everyone to know that whenever broadwayjoe brings up "Gregory Charles Royal" - he is trying to call Sarah Palin a racist.


I believe that the False Charges of Racism on this board have gotten way out of control.


And that includes the use of sexual slurs against the Tea Party.


The democrats are constantly demanding that the Tea Party exercise restraint - HOWEVER THE DEMOCRATS DO NOT EXERCISE RESTRAINT IN THEIR ATTACKS ON THE TEA PARTY - FULL OF SLURS, SMEARS AND FALSE CHARGES OF RACISM.


This is one major problem on this board as well.


I object - broadwayjoe and ddawd have violated the terms of service on this board dozens of times - there has been no enforcement.


Everyone else has to endure this kind of behavior - and it has been dealt with the way it has -


To blame one party in this situation is just wrong.

.

Posted by: YouCanPostThis | July 23, 2010 11:27 AM | Report abuse

bsimon1 - The net effect of job outsourcing as cost Nevada more than 50,000 jobs THIS YEAR! No amount of spinning can change that and the voters DO understand that. Reid can muddy the waters all he wants, but he is identified as being in Obama's pocket, an ally of Geithner and Summers and all those Northeastern twits in Congress like Schumer and THAT is going to spell the end of his career.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | July 23, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

mibrooks writes
"In the end, desperate unemployed people and their friends and relatives, and remember REAL unemployed is right now at 22%, will vote Tea Party, Nothing else matters. Harry Reid is a clueless old fool,a free trade, job outsourcing nitwit, and deserves to loose. If I was in charge of the Angle campaign, I would beat that drum in every ad and Reid would end up on the trash heap."


Angle's problem with that argument is that she's trying to criticize Reid for the high NV unemployment rate, but would not have helped promote the MGM Grand project that allegedly created 22000 jobs in Vegas. Further, Reid could rebut that Vegas is one of the few US cities that benefits from foreign tourist dollars, so cutting off trade actually hurts Vegas & Nevada. Their tax rate is low precisely because of tourists, foreign and domestic, coming to Vegas to blow their hard earned cash on the slots & shows like Seigfried & Roy. Maybe Angle can't figure that out, but I suspect most NV voters can.

Posted by: bsimon1 | July 23, 2010 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Angle on free trade: "It is quite amazing that GATT is sowing the seeds for global social upheaval and that it is not even the subject of debate in America… If the masses understood the truth about GATT, there would be blood in the streets of many capitals. A healthy national economy has to produce a large part of its own needs. It cannot simply import what it needs and use its labor force to provide services for other countries. We have to rethink from top to bottom why we have elevated global free trade to the status of sacred cow, or moral dogma. It is a fatally flawed concept that will impoverish and destabilize the industrialized world while cruelly ravaging the Third World."

That is all the voters will care about. This is the position of Ron Paul and his son, the position of most real Tea Party leaders (as opposed to Republican operatives "speaking for" the Tea Party movement). In the end, desperate unemployed people and their friends and relatives, and remember REAL unemployed is right now at 22%, will vote Tea Party, Nothing else matters. Harry Reid is a clueless old fool,a free trade, job outsourcing nitwit, and deserves to loose. If I was in charge of the Angle campaign, I would beat that drum in every ad and Reid would end up on the trash heap.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | July 23, 2010 11:12 AM | Report abuse

dummypants writes
"its funny how the media blows the republican colorado primary into some big nasty thing. people, men and women, laughed good naturly at buck's joke if you watch the tape."


Its partly the media & partly his opponent in the primary, looking for a macaca moment. Which is the lesson Buck should be learning - there's no such thing as a friendly audience where you can let your guard down; his point wasn't bad, but he put it in a way that created an opening for his opponent to play the gender card and paint him as a misogynist. I'm skeptical that line of attack will be effective in the Repub primary - but if he ekes it out, it may come back to bite him in the general.

Posted by: bsimon1 | July 23, 2010 11:02 AM | Report abuse

dummypants I think you are right

Posted by: shrink2 | July 23, 2010 11:02 AM | Report abuse

its funny how the media blows the republican colorado primary into some big nasty thing. people, men and women, laughed good naturly at buck's joke if you watch the tape. compared to "bill clinton is a raicst" stuff in south carolina stuff, or the charhe against sestak that he was repremanded for abusing power while in the navy, this colorado stuff is a pillow fight.

Posted by: dummypants | July 23, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

1. The Angle vs. Reid race will be a very competitive race til the end. With Reid's huge financial advantage, he will ensure that. However, Reid is still in trouble despite the advantage of incumbency, a big money edge and statewide name recognition. He has to face voters after leading the charge for the liberal agenda. He must face the moderately conservative Nevada voters. He must paint Angle as so out of touch that voters would rather have him than her. On the other hand, Angle must paint herself as someone who is reasonable that knows how to live within her means vs. the spendthrift Reid leaving debt to future generations. Angle should also attack Reid on social issues: guns, abortion & gay rights. I think this is a winning strategy for Angle.

2. David Vitter looks on his way to reelection. He's probably up 44%-43% in Louisiana's 2nd district, but he will cruise to reelection. Vitter has the advantage financially, he's the incumbent and he is a popular conservative in a conservative state in a conservative year. Vitter will cruise to wins in the R primary and GE.

3. I don't know anything about Mac Warner or anyone else running but Rease. Rease has tons of personal money to run the GE, if he wins the primary which is likely. Rease would be a real threat to Manchin due to his large wealth. Rease can attack Manchin hard and heavy with his money on tv. Rease must attack Manchin and link him to the Reid/Pelosi/Obama agenda. Rease is doing the right thing by doing that. Rease makes himself a contender this year with a chance to win if he can successfully tie Manchin the Reid/Pelosi/Obama agenda. If not, Manchin will cruise running on his good ole' boy reputation as Gov.

4. Now all Norton needs is an endorsement for Palin and you got a good one: DeMint/Buck vs. Palin/Norton. I know the Colorodo Republican party has endorsed Buck. Norton is a former Lt. Gov. and this race will come down to the wire. I think Buck will pull it out, but it's close til the end.

Posted by: reason5 | July 23, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Von W, SS withholding stops at about 6 figures. Poor people (and we all know who they are) and middle class people actually contribute a higher % of their lifetime earnings to SS than do people who are lucky enough to make a higher salary. I pay SS on 100% of my salary, my husband does not.

SS retirememt benefits were not set up as welfare and only a few people view it as welfare. I suggest that they stand on their beliefs and refuse to accept money that they think is welfare when it is offered to them.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | July 23, 2010 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Do all those gray-haired folks listening to Angle, believe her when she tells them that their SS checks are welfare? After working and paying into the fund for 50 years, I think they might have some questions about her sanity.

Posted by: clairevb | July 23, 2010 10:32 AM | Report abuse

ouch!

Posted by: shrink2 | July 23, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse

That's incorrect, von_wallenstein. SS disbursements are based on income. It's not like a 401K, more akin to a pension. But hey, it's helpful to understand where Angle's supporters are coming from.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | July 23, 2010 10:22 AM | Report abuse

@ maggie myers: social security is welfare. more $$ go to the poor than go to middle and upper class retirees. recipients receive vastly more money than they ever contributed. it's not like a 401(k) where you get back the money you saved thanks to your own hard work

Posted by: von_wallenstein | July 23, 2010 10:18 AM | Report abuse

Reid's just doing a Harry Truman. He tells the truth about Angle and she thinks it's h e double toothpicks.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | July 23, 2010 10:08 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: scrivener50 | July 23, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

Angle's ideas of less taxes, less regulations and less government while promoting second amendment rights is big step towards anarchy. She has a wild wild west mentality.

We know the domino effect that the deregulation of Wall Street created. The economy will only get better when there are decent paying jobs so that people will have money to spend.

With more people arming themselves and being allowed to carry their weapons outside of their homes, things will only get worse because when you walk into a store and people see you are carrying a gun even if it's in a holster, people don't know if you their as a robber or a customer. This happened here in Vegas a few weeks ago, and the cops shot and killed him.


Posted by: Nevadaandy | July 23, 2010 9:52 AM | Report abuse

Looks like finance whiz has lost her mind.

Posted by: Moonbat | July 23, 2010 9:31 AM | Report abuse

I don't think it is the effectiveness of Reid's advertising taht is making people feel negatively toward Angle. The more people know about Angle and her ideas for America the more they loathe her. And she is loathsome.

Also, recall that she alienated the 11% of her state's population that receives Social Security benefits by calling it "welfare." Older people voters who have spent a lifetime contributing to Social Security don't like to be told they are on welfare.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | July 23, 2010 9:29 AM | Report abuse

There's a nice piece on Angle in the main section of today's Post. Going into hiding for a month was idiotic given the amount of material she's given Reid's team. Enough to hang her several times.

Item 2 is a decent illustration why private polls are publicly useless. One is dead even and the other +17? It's like one was conducted in New Orleans and Baton Rouge and the other everywhere else.

Incidentally, Leichtman, a politics blog in a DC paper isn't likely to sway many minds in Nevada.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | July 23, 2010 8:59 AM | Report abuse

Poor Nevada, Reid or Angle, such a choice.
If not now soon, America will need fiscal conservatives but between Steele, the Bush cronies and the kooks like Paul and Angle, there are not a lot to vote for. All eyes on New Jersey I guess...

Posted by: shrink2 | July 23, 2010 8:44 AM | Report abuse

Chris: Try as you might, your efforts to provide the sorry Angle Free Air Time for her commercial won't get her elected.

This is is the real story line that you missed with Ms. Angle. She calls a press conference, has a surrogate deliver a brief prepared statement, announces that Ms. Angle will now take your questions, and immediately high tails it running away from the media. She refuses to tell us what she means by Second Amendment Solutions and then you enable her campaign by making NO MENTION of her cowardly political transgression. So I guess I will need to do your job for you Chris by filling in the entire story, precisely how Faux News refused to provide the entire story on Ms.Shirley Sherrod.

http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/would-you-trust-a-candidate-that-refuses-to-answer-questions-at-their-own-news-conference/question-1116313/

Now lets all watch the next Harry Reid
commercial graciously provided to him in Ms. Angle's video. Now this is the real story in Nevada not her lame commercial.

Posted by: leichtman1 | July 23, 2010 8:43 AM | Report abuse

1) None of the Above may be pulling into the lead in Nevada.
2) sounds like there are plenty of outliers in Louisiana; I could believe Melancon is closing the gap, but the evidence is light that he's really tied with Vitter.
4) Buck may need some taller boots

Posted by: bsimon1 | July 23, 2010 8:43 AM | Report abuse

Chris: Try as you might, your efforts to provide the sorry Angle Free Air Time for her commercial won't get her elected.

This is is the real story line that you missed with Ms. Angle. She calls a press conference, has a surrogate deliver a brief prepared statement, announces that Ms. Angle will now take your questions, and immediately high tails it running away from the media. She refuses to tell us what she means by Second Amendment Solutions and then you enable her campaign by making NO MENTION of her cowardly political transgression. So I guess I will need to do your job for you Chris by filling in the entire story, precisely how Faux News refused to provide the entire story on Ms.Shirley Sherrod.

http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/would-you-trust-a-candidate-that-refuses-to-answer-questions-at-their-own-news-conference/question-1116313/

Now lets all watch the next Harry Reid
commercial graciously provided to him in Ms. Angle's video. Now this is the real story in Nevada not her lame commercial.

Posted by: leichtman1 | July 23, 2010 8:42 AM | Report abuse

Chris: Try as you might, your efforts to provide the sorry Angle Free Air Time for her commercial won't get her elected.

This is is the real story line that you missed with Ms. Angle. She calls a press conference, has a surrogate deliver a brief prepared statement, announces that Ms. Angle will now take your questions, and immediately high tails it running away from the media. She refuses to tell us what she means by Second Amendment Solutions and then you enable her campaign by making NO MENTION of her cowardly political transgression. So I guess I will need to do your job for you Chris by filling in the entire story, precisely how Faux News refused to provide the entire story on Ms.Shirley Sherrod.

http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/would-you-trust-a-candidate-that-refuses-to-answer-questions-at-their-own-news-conference/question-1116313/

Now lets all watch the next Harry Reid
commercial graciously provided to him in Ms. Angle's video. Now this is the real story in Nevada not her lame commercial.

Posted by: leichtman1 | July 23, 2010 8:42 AM | Report abuse

Chris: Try as you might, your efforts to provide the sorry Angle Free Air Time for her commercial won't get her elected.

This is is the real story line that you missed with Ms. Angle. She calls a press conference, has a surrogate deliver a brief prepared statement, announces that Ms. Angle will now take your questions, and immediately high tails it running away from the media. She refuses to tell us what she means by Second Amendment Solutions and then you enable her campaign by making NO MENTION of her cowardly political transgression. So I guess I will need to do your job for you Chris by filling in the entire story, precisely how Faux News refused to provide the entire story on Ms.Shirley Sherrod.

http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/would-you-trust-a-candidate-that-refuses-to-answer-questions-at-their-own-news-conference/question-1116313/

Now lets all watch the next Harry Reid
commercial graciously provided to him in Ms. Angle's video. Now this is the real story in Nevada not her lame commercial.

Posted by: leichtman1 | July 23, 2010 8:42 AM | Report abuse

Chris: Try as you might, your efforts to provide the sorry Angle Free Air Time for her commercial won't get her elected.

This is is the real story line that you missed with Ms. Angle. She calls a press conference, has a surrogate deliver a brief prepared statement, announces that Ms. Angle will now take your questions, and immediately high tails it running away from the media. She refuses to tell us what she means by Second Amendment Solutions and then you enable her campaign by making NO MENTION of her cowardly political transgression. So I guess I will need to do your job for you Chris by filling in the entire story, precisely how Faux News refused to provide the entire story on Ms.Shirley Sherrod.

http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/would-you-trust-a-candidate-that-refuses-to-answer-questions-at-their-own-news-conference/question-1116313/

Now lets all watch the next Harry Reid
commercial graciously provided to him in Ms. Angle's video. Now this is the real story in Nevada not her lame commercial.

Posted by: leichtman1 | July 23, 2010 8:42 AM | Report abuse

Chris: Try as you might, your efforts to provide the sorry Angle Free Air Time for her commercial won't get her elected.

This is is the real story line that you missed with Ms. Angle. She calls a press conference, has a surrogate deliver a brief prepared statement, announces that Ms. Angle will now take your questions, and immediately high tails it running away from the media. She refuses to tell us what she means by Second Amendment Solutions and then you enable her campaign by making NO MENTION of her cowardly political transgression. So I guess I will need to do your job for you Chris by filling in the entire story, precisely how Faux News refused to provide the entire story on Ms.Shirley Sherrod.

http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/would-you-trust-a-candidate-that-refuses-to-answer-questions-at-their-own-news-conference/question-1116313/

Now lets all watch the next Harry Reid
commercial graciously provided to him in Ms. Angle's video. Now this is the real story in Nevada not her lame commercial.

Posted by: leichtman1 | July 23, 2010 8:42 AM | Report abuse

Chris: Try as you might, your efforts to provide the sorry Angle Free Air Time for her commercial won't get her elected.

This is is the real story line that you missed with Ms. Angle. She calls a press conference, has a surrogate deliver a brief prepared statement, announces that Ms. Angle will now take your questions, and immediately high tails it running away from the media. She refuses to tell us what she means by Second Amendment Solutions and then you enable her campaign by making NO MENTION of her cowardly political transgression. So I guess I will need to do your job for you Chris by filling in the entire story, precisely how Faux News refused to provide the entire story on Ms.Shirley Sherrod.

http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/would-you-trust-a-candidate-that-refuses-to-answer-questions-at-their-own-news-conference/question-1116313/

Now lets all watch the next Harry Reid
commercial graciously provided to him in Ms. Angle's video. Now this is the real story in Nevada not her lame commercial.

Posted by: leichtman1 | July 23, 2010 8:42 AM | Report abuse

Chris: Try as you might, your efforts to provide the sorry Angle Free Air Time for her commercial won't get her elected.

This is is the real story line that you missed with Ms. Angle. She calls a press conference, has a surrogate deliver a brief prepared statement, announces that Ms. Angle will now take your questions, and immediately high tails it running away from the media. She refuses to tell us what she means by Second Amendment Solutions and then you enable her campaign by making NO MENTION of her cowardly political transgression. So I guess I will need to do your job for you Chris by filling in the entire story, precisely how Faux News refused to provide the entire story on Ms.Shirley Sherrod.

http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/would-you-trust-a-candidate-that-refuses-to-answer-questions-at-their-own-news-conference/question-1116313/

Now lets all watch the next Harry Reid
commercial graciously provided to him in Ms. Angle's video. Now this is the real story in Nevada not her lame commercial.

Posted by: leichtman1 | July 23, 2010 8:42 AM | Report abuse

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