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Byrd special election to be held in 2012

West Virginia Secretary of State Natalie Tennant (D) announced this afternoon that a special election to replace the late Sen. Robert Byrd (D) will be held in 2012, not this fall as some had speculated.

Calling the state election code an "interesting" document, Tennant said that because the filing deadline for this election had long passed that the "next" election for a special to be held was not November 2010 but November 2012.

Democrats had predicted Tennant's decision, insisting the law was clear and citing a 1994 case decided by the state Supreme Court that affirmed the idea of a delayed special.
It's not immediately clear whether Republicans -- either at the state or national level -- will challenge Tennant's ruling.

What Tennant's ruling means is that there will be two election for the Senate in November 2012. One will be a special election for the five week (or so) unexpired term of Byrd while the other will be for a full six year term since Byrd was due to stand for re-election in 2012 anyway.

The next thing to watch for is who Gov. Joe Manchin appoints for the remaining two plus year of Byrd's term. Manchin is widely seen to have an eye on the Senate race in 2012 -- when his second term is up -- and would then likely put a caretaker in place to hold the seat only until he could run for it. The most mentioned name as a caretaker is former state party chairman Nick Casey.

A source close to Manchin told the Fix that "Joe Manchin is ready to do whatever he needs to in order to promote West Virginia values, nationally and in Washington D.C." And that, reading between the lines, sounds like Manchin is running.

Republicans are likely to turn to five term Rep. Shelley Moore Capito as their candidate. Capito, the daughter of former Gov. Arch Moore (R), considered a 2006 run against Byrd before bowing out.

By Chris Cillizza  |  June 28, 2010; 5:33 PM ET
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Quote "Democrats control like 70% of the seats in the W. Virginia legislature, so why don't they just follow Massachusetts example....change the rules as they go.

They have a Democrat governor, so make the rule that the governor can fill empty seats by appointment. Then, if a Republican ever gets elected governor again, just change the law back to where they have to fill the seat by immediate special election.

Massachusetts showed a fine example of how one-party rule in the state house can change the rules as they go to their own benefit, so why shouldn't West Virginia do the same?

Posted by: dbw1 | June 29, 2010 10:23 AM |"

Good point DB. I never thought of that,, but. Wasn't the Scott Brown win a special election?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_special_election_in_Massachusetts,_2010
That one came back to bite em' in the ass though? In Mass the dems I think delayed the special election as best they could.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204884404574362541012511408.html

This I think was time to give Mary Jane the proper amount of time to beat his brains in with a baseball bat when the scumbag showed up at the pearly gates!!!

http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/UnNews:Haunted,_Ted_Kennedy_returns_to_Chappaquiddick

Good ole Byrd will have a tough time explaining that whole grand cyclops thing too!

Posted by: zepproxx | June 29, 2010 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Wow these dems are really arrogant. How do you have a primary election when the sitting senator is still alive? Can Tennant explain this one? 2 years six months is WV law. By my simple internet website search it is 2 years and 6 days prior to Jan 3 2010. Maybe I am taking crazy pills? Lets take off 2 days and still a special election should be called. Lets see how the coal industry votes this time around now that Obozo is trying to put them out of business. Nice try dems but the law is the law and from what I hear West Virginians are giving the Gov an earful over their little scam to not call an election when WV law requires a special election! Nice try Tennant!!! One problem for you Tennant, people are watching!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: zepproxx | June 29, 2010 6:44 PM | Report abuse

Response to margaretmeyers

While it is true that Manchin will be 64 come 2012, its also worth noting that his examples in WV are Byrd (died a sitting senator age 92) and Rockefeller (still going, age 73).

The senate isn't exactly full of spring chickens. And when we look at those already standing in 2010 we see:
- Blumenthal (D-CT, age 64)
- Blunt (R-MS, age 60)
- Castle (R-DE, age 70)
- Coats (R-IN, age 67)
- Tiahrt (R-KS, age 59)
- Hodes (D-NH, age 59)
- Fisher (D-OH, age 58).

The list goes on, but I'd better stop there. The point remains, that entering the Senate aged 64 is not unusual.

Posted by: JayPen | June 29, 2010 6:24 PM | Report abuse

It is said that we must not speak ill of the dead. I'm not exactly sure why that is since there are plenty of people of who deserve as much ill will and disrespect after they died as they did when they lived. History is full of their names from both on high and low.

Senator Byrd spent 52 years in the Senate playing the role of the elder statesman and parliamentarian. These are both roles for which he seemed to be perfectly well equipped. During those 52 years he managed to get either his name or his wife's name on well over 50 federally funded projects as monuments to his own glory and reputation. His state was getting back in the neighborhood of $1.25 in tax dollars for every $1.00 they paid in and he certainly was one of the most capable when it came to "bringing home the bacon", so to speak. If those achievements are enough to define him as honorable then we have degraded the meaning of the word.

His early career stands against integration and other parts of the civil rights movement as well as his membership in the KKK would, if he were the member of any other party brand him for life as a somewhat scurrilous individual, yet like Ted Kennedy we find him being eulogized as great and noble man for simply having gamed the system for a half a century.

To his extended family and life-long supporters I’m sure he was a great man and will be missed but we have to stop putting individuals on pedestals that simply don’t deserve it just because of length of service or party affiliation.

Posted by: Sproing | June 29, 2010 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Democrats control like 70% of the seats in the W. Virginia legislature, so why don't they just follow Massachusetts example....change the rules as they go.

They have a Democrat governor, so make the rule that the governor can fill empty seats by appointment. Then, if a Republican ever gets elected governor again, just change the law back to where they have to fill the seat by immediate special election.

Massachusetts showed a fine example of how one-party rule in the state house can change the rules as they go to their own benefit, so why shouldn't West Virginia do the same?

Posted by: dbw1 | June 29, 2010 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Manchin is 62. I don't thnk he will want to take on such an exacting new job at 64. Be realistic -- this is a very demanding job he would be taking up. Most people in their mid-60s aren't looking to gear-up, they are looking to gear-down.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | June 29, 2010 7:09 AM | Report abuse

Today is the start of the BOYCOTT.

Heatwave, Sunlight 37th or whatever he calls himself today has posted 6 of the last 8 posts here and rather than being banned as CC told us
last thursday 37th was, he has been allowed to compeletly take over this site, and sucked 100% of the oxygen from this blog.

Tell CC IF THERE ARE NO RULES here, if a
single Blogger can write and enforce the rules
as he sees fit, then we do not want anything to do with the FIX.

JOIN THE FIX BOYCOTT. As of today this site is
officially renamed The 37th Blog Site.

Posted by: leichtman1 | June 29, 2010 7:07 AM | Report abuse

Moonbat


Thank you for your support.


The liberals are free to leave.

No one is stopping them from posting


They just want this place like it was in 2008 - when the liberal attacks on the conservatives were constant -

If the liberals wanted to engage in constructive conversation, and they could stop broadwayjoe and noacoler from their attacks and name-calling - this place would not be so bad.

But we have a situation here in which the liberals have started the nastiness - they get a reaction - and all of a sudden it is the conservatives who are the bad guys.

They are acting like children - like a clique of 8 year olds.


If someone doesn't like a blog, they just leave, they don't demand that someone else be banned, and then stamp their feet.


They don't announce "boycotts" - and scream that "their demands must be met."

This is what we have here.

I hope these people are not representative of the maturity of the entire democratic party - as they go down in defeat this year.

I suppose instead of blaming Obama - and all the deceptions and lies in his platform of 2008 - the liberals will try to blame everyone else.


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Posted by: Heatwave | June 29, 2010 12:43 AM | Report abuse

Hostile Knowledge

Apparently the Secretary of State of WV Natalie Tennant has decided it would be a better idea to have a special election for a 5 week term in 2012 - instead of having the special election this year - so the PEOPLE can decide who their Senator is for those two years.

These are the kind of games that the DEMOCRATS LOVE

It is against everything that American government stands for - the basic idea that the people chose who represents them.

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Posted by: Heatwave | June 29, 2010 12:34 AM | Report abuse

I will be joining 12bar and others urging that
we boycott this site starting tomorrow.

Please take drivl and Ped with you.

Posted by: Moonbat | June 29, 2010 12:33 AM | Report abuse

"West Virginia Secretary of State Natalie Tennant (D) announced this afternoon that a special election to replace the late Sen. Robert Byrd (D) will be held in 2012, not this fall as some had speculated."

Byrd's term expires in 2012, How can that be a "special election?"

God decided to create the perfect brainless invertebrate. First he created jellyfish. That was practice. Then he created leg-humping psychotic progressives and perfection was achieved.

Posted by: HostileKnowledge | June 29, 2010 12:21 AM | Report abuse

as usual, braindead worthless spew.


This the Washington Post?

Posted by: drindl | June 29, 2010 12:09 AM | Report abuse

I find it absolutely amazing that the same posters who were engaging in a campaign of harassment and mocking - against every poster with whom they did not agree - in 2008 - NOW is trying to silence the posters with whom they do not agree.


If one takes a look back at the archives from 2008, the harassment from the left was constanct - hour after hour.

These people want the same atmosphere to prevail -

The main difference is then - they had the Obama fantasy to talk about -


Now, the actual performance of an inexperienced and unqualified person is on display - for everyone to be horrified by.

Obama is not handling the Oil Spill properly.

Obama's stimulus has failed.

Obama has apologized to the world.

Obama did not reform the MMS - and did not get the safety inspections on the oil rigs done properly - as he said he would.

Obama's military strategy in Afghanistan is not working.

Obama's terrorism policy puts more Americans at more risk than ever before.

The list can go on and on.

The leftists on this blog do NOT want to hear the above evaluations of Obama.

They just want the fantasy land - the crazy musings of people who were electing a person who had no idea what he was doing - was inexperienced, had no qualifications - and who was about to put our nation in serious risk.


They do not want reality.

That is the main problem here - it is not a poster - they are upset WITH REALITY ITSELF.


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Posted by: Heatwave | June 28, 2010 11:05 PM | Report abuse

Kagan says she wants the Supreme Court to play a "modest" role.


Sotomeyer said she was a "moderate"

Does anyone else see a pattern here ???

Are the Obama people telling their nominees to lie in front of Congress - to gain confirmation ???

There is a difference between "puffing" and "lying" - these are outright LIES.

This is absolutely ridiculous.

It is an outrage that such lies are put forth in the confirmation process.

It is shameful.

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Posted by: Heatwave | June 28, 2010 10:57 PM | Report abuse

There can easily be a special primary in September.


I have a feeling that there will be a lawsuit - and a Court may declare that the special general election has to take place this year.

New York, I think, has its primary in early September - so it is done.

It is clear that the legislature intended July 3 to be the cut-off date - so the Court would probably rule that way.

Manchin and his people are probably polling these issues this week - they will quickly find out that the people would prefer to have an election this year - and messing with that sentiment is not a good idea - especially if Manchin wants to run for the seat.

I think Manchin is better off running this year.

In any event, the seat is in play for the Republicans - and if the democrats disrespect the people in choosing the next Senator, the people will show their anger in the election.


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Posted by: Heatwave | June 28, 2010 10:53 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if the Secretary of State would have reached the same conclusion if she were a member of the opposite party as the governor? I suspect not.

In any case, it seems to make the special election law somewhat toothless. There's a special election, but only if there is a scheduled primary in between? It sounds like a complete waste of money to schedule a special election for 5 weeks and allow an appointee for the next 2.4 years. The legislature would be wise to change the law to allow for special elections in all cases.

Posted by: KPOM1 | June 28, 2010 10:47 PM | Report abuse

Brigade


Byrd just didn't say a few racist things - he actually tried to stop ALL the Federal Civil Rights laws through filibuster.

The democrats are unbelievable -


Today - a "proxy issue" is grounds for the democrats to go on a racist rants about the Republicans - but the transgressions of the democrats are overlooked.

How about all that Tea Party violence up in Toronto this weekend ??? Cars burning, windows broken - 500 people arrested.

OH - that was the leftists doing that, and not the Tea Party ?? I thought the people on this blog kept on saying it was the Tea Party that was violent... and racist.

To hear the democratic Congressional leaders - and the drama they pulled this spring trying to call the Tea Party movement racist - compare that to their attitude about the man WHO ACTUALLY PERFORMED THE FILIBUSTER TRYING TO STOP THE CIVIL RIGHTS LAWS.


This is the problem with the democrats - you just can not take them seriously about anything.

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Posted by: Heatwave | June 28, 2010 10:40 PM | Report abuse

as usual, just one steaming dump of 37/heatwave, and zouk/brigade excrement.

god, how many hours a day they spend on here -- it's like 15 already today.

wasted time, wasted lives... sad and sick.

Posted by: drindl | June 28, 2010 10:37 PM | Report abuse

"once a great place to post"

when I read some of our conservative friends
celebrating today the loss of Sen Byrd and making snide remarks about a man who served this nation with dignity for 52 years, I have to agree that the Fix no longer has that reputation.

Posted by: leichtman1 | June 28, 2010 8:11 PM
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Dig into the archives and see how much respect and dignity was on display here when Strom Thurmond died. I can just imagine.

Posted by: Brigade | June 28, 2010 10:06 PM | Report abuse

DDAWD wrote,
"It wasn't that long ago that Trent Lott was talking about how awesome it would be if we had instituted segregation."

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Oh c'mon now. He was speaking at Strom Thurmonds 200th birthday party and paying him a compliment by saying how wonderful things we be of ole Strom had been president. I don't think the topic of segregation was even raised. I'm sure Lott never did or said anything half as bad as Robert Byrd---oh, but wait, Byrd was only 50 then; it was a youthful indiscretion, sort of like when Bull Connor loosed the dogs and firehoses.

Posted by: Brigade | June 28, 2010 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Ddawd


There was something leichtman was saying the other night - about a certain poster being in the ER - and not receiving the right treatment - an IV bag or something.

You can look back yourself.

Leichtman did wish death upon other posters.

So that makes you the liar.


Let's get back to evaluating how good Obama is.


Obama has changed the name of the Minerals Management Service twice in one week

Yea - the position of the leftists is: this used to be a good place when all we did was talk about how dreamy Obama is - and we mocked all the Conservatives all day long.

yea - that was great.


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Posted by: Heatwave | June 28, 2010 9:39 PM | Report abuse

@JayPen - Just post what you think. There is a decent community here. Add to the discussion and ignore those whom you wish to ignore. THere's good people here.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | June 28, 2010 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, I don't bother to comment on here much myself. It is far more important to 37th for me not to be heard than it is for me to post on here. Chris banned 37th, but I'm not going to expect anyone to keep banning 37th every ten minutes. That's fine. Just because the guy produces 100% of the comments on this board doesn't mean he is producing 100% of the votes. And every single person who is the least undecided is definitely not going to vote with this fascist.

Obviously 37th is lying about leichtman wishing death upon him. Why would he. You can barely call what he does living.

Posted by: DDAWD | June 28, 2010 9:08 PM | Report abuse

Robert Byrd was no ordinary racist.


He was no ordinary member of the KKK.


He was a racist leader WHO TRIED TO STOP ALL THE CIVIL RIGHTS LAWS.


Given the respect the democrats have showed here for Freedom of Speech, and for civil rights - this should made clear.

This is no "proxy issue" - this is a guy who tried to STOP ALL the Federal Civil Rights laws.


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Posted by: Heatwave | June 28, 2010 9:03 PM | Report abuse

Leichtman

No one is celebrating anything

It is you who has spent the weekend wishing that other posters would die.

Not very nice - that should be against the rules - so you should be banned.


Sure sounds like you, 12Bar and broadwayjoe in your claimed boycott are ACTING THE SAME AS THE FILIBUSTERS OF THE FEDERAL CIVIL RIGHTS ACT - AS ROBERT BYRD DID WHEN HE WAS THE RACIST LEADER.

Not much different - refusing to go along with respecting the rights of US citizens.


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Posted by: Heatwave | June 28, 2010 8:57 PM | Report abuse

"37th: A US Senator died today. It is a tragedy for his family, the people of W Virginia and nation. We know that this is really difficult to expect of you since you spend your life in the gutter, but show some respect."

I will be joining 12bar and others urging that
we boycott this site starting tomorrow. Either this site has rules that we all follow or it becomes 37th's site. Apparently it is no longer CC's site but is officially 37th's sandbox to do whatever he feels like. He makes the rules he decides when those rules are followed.

the thought that conservatives would spend
their time here celebrating the death of a
US Senator and using this sad time as an
opportunity to literally trash Sen Byrd
absolutely sickens me. It is certainly not what
I choose to participate in.

Posted by: leichtman1 | June 28, 2010 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Well - the liberal attempts to silence the opposition has done one thing - distracting everyone from the fact that this is Obama's OIL SPILL.

Did anyone notice that Obama has changed the name of the MINERALS MANAGEMENT SERVICE TWICE ???

The reason is the letters of the new name, when pronounced, sounded too much like "O BUMMER"

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Posted by: Heatwave | June 28, 2010 8:40 PM | Report abuse

Saying that the Dems are playing games in waiting until 2012 to elect a successor is disingenuous. The law clearly states that the next election will be in 2012. What is disconcerting is that Governor Manchin wants to appoint a placeholder, simply to further his own political career. This is an abuse of power. Given all the placeholders already serving in the Senate, Manchin is also risking a lot. West Virginia is trending Republican in national elections, McCain took over 55% versus Obama at 42.6% of the vote in West Virginia, this probably won't change much next time around.

Yes, Manchin is very popular, but things change. A Republican running for US in West Virginia would do well in a presidential election year. On the other hand, Senator Rockefeller will be 77 years old in 2014 when he is up for reelection. (Yes, I realize 77 years old is young for a West Virginia Senator.) If Manchin waited until 2014 to run, and put someone in now who could start building up seniority and run as an incumbent, it would certainly be beneficial to the state.

Unfortunately, everything seems to be revolving around what works best for Manchin's career, not what is best for the state of West Virginia.

Given this situation and what has happened with the placeholders in Delaware, Florida, and Illinois, and given the poor quality of the appointees in New York and Colorado, it seems that the best long term solution in the event of a vacancy in the US Senate is for a special election to be held with 90? days or so of a vacancy.

To argue that it isn't enough time to run an election isn't accurate. Scott Brown in Massachusetts certainly did well in an abbreviated schedule. At the end of the day, someone will win and the other(s) will lose. But, let the people decide. (Massachusetts also had a placeholder for the months that the seat was open, the placeholder not being eligible to run in the special election. This was also fine and worked well.)

Manchin's cynical maneuvering could bite him in the end, perhaps deservedly so!

Posted by: gckarcher | June 28, 2010 8:35 PM | Report abuse

JayPen


Extremely good point - Manchin might actually be better off running this year as opposed to 2012.


This year Manchin benefits from a compressed schedule - and he is in the middle of his term as Governor - not a lame duck.

Also, Manchin recently had high-profile opportunities with the mining disasters - which would help him this year, and that would fade into 2012.

The polling is not in - but most would guess that West Virginia is in play now - whether the Courts say the election is this year or 2012.

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Posted by: Heatwave | June 28, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse

am moving aside to let Heatwave, previously known as 37th&OStreet, all the room he needs to give his point of view. And we all know that is a LOT of room.

For about the third time, I'm signing off. CC can't enforce the blocking for whatever reason. The only thing that would make this worse is if there were 2 spammer posters. I'll believe 37th is blocked after he's been gone for a week at least.

I don't know what CC ever did to deserve this constant spamming, but maybe he'll do something when the Comments drop off to no one except 37th.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 28, 2010 7:45 PM
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I'll follow you out. This is crazy. There is no reason for 37/ aka "heatwave" to still be here.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | June 28, 2010 8:33 PM | Report abuse

I'm a bit reticent about posting here, given the less than rigid adherance to the topic in hand, and the heavily partisan slant. But here goes anyway ...

Manchin has to be the prohibitive frontrunner, surely? He's got statewide recognition, and is well liked. Running in 2012 might be tricky (Obama re-election will not be a boost in WV) but they're used to voting Dem for Senate and GOP for POTUS.

The big danger is if you get a challenge from within the party who takes advantage of the cronyism charge re placeholder appointment, or insufficient base appeal (see Crist, Charlie). Is there any ambitious Dems who'd be prepared to take on Manchin, accusing him of insufficient liberalism (see Halter, Bill)?

Posted by: JayPen | June 28, 2010 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Leichtman

You should be banned for wishing death on other posters.

No one is celebrating - you are really pressing it there. You are being deceptive and dishonest again.


Are there any other parts of the Bill of Rights you would like to trample upon ???


Any other elections you don't want to hold ??


AND I don't think running a filibuster against the Federal Civil Rights Act was "serving with dignity."


However, again, I have to point out that attempting to restrict someone's Freedom of Speech is no different than organizing a mob to stop blacks from voting.


They are both Civil Rights Violations.

So Leichtman, I guess you would have been right there - supporting Byrd when he filibustered the Federal Civil Rights Act.


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Posted by: Heatwave | June 28, 2010 8:28 PM | Report abuse

This was once a great place to post but it hasn't been so for a long time.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 28, 2010 7:58 PM


coincidentally since when you showed up loser.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 28, 2010 8:28 PM | Report abuse

37th: A US Senator died today. It is a tragedy for his family, the people of W Virginia and nation. We know that this is really difficult to expect of you since you spend your life in the gutter, but show some respect.
Not interested in the c+++ that you dug up
from 70 years ago. Put you champagne cork back in your bottle; this is no time for your sicko celebration.

Posted by: leichtman1 | June 28, 2010 8:13 PM | Report abuse

"once a great place to post"

when I read some of our conservative friends
celebrating today the loss of Sen Byrd and making snide remarks about a man who served this nation with dignity for 52 years, I have to agree that the Fix no longer has that reputation.

Posted by: leichtman1 | June 28, 2010 8:11 PM | Report abuse

The democrats here, like leichtman, want to cancel the Bill of Rights - including the First Amendment.


The democrats in West Virginia do not want to hold elections.

IS there any limit to this trampling upon America's democratic traditions ???


Americans are rising up against the democrats.


Americans will take their country back.


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Posted by: Heatwave | June 28, 2010 8:08 PM | Report abuse

Isn't that Obama's claim - if people before him committed crimes like trading government appointments for getting people out of elections, then Obama can do it too ???

Weren't the democrats saying that just a few weeks ago ???

Ddawd you have to be the dumbest person in the country.


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Posted by: Heatwave | June 28, 2010 8:06 PM | Report abuse

37th: A US Senator died today. It is a tragedy for his family, the people of W Virginia and nation. We know that this is really difficult to expect of you since you spend your life in the gutter, but show some respect.
Not interested in the c+++ that you dug up
from 70 years ago. Put you champagne cork back in your bottle; this is no time for your sicko celebration.

Posted by: leichtman1 | June 28, 2010 8:05 PM | Report abuse

@12Bar: shouldn't do swan songs, just seek greener pastures. 37th is mind-numbing, zouk is sickening, if that's what the Post wants here then let them have it. This was once a great place to post but it hasn't been so for a long time.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 28, 2010 7:58 PM | Report abuse

I love the Republicans who will spend all day and night singing the praises of Jesse Helms and Strom Thurmond. It wasn't that long ago that Trent Lott was talking about how awesome it would be if we had instituted segregation. Not to mention these are the same guys who are convinced that the President of the United States can't have been born in the US because he is black and has a funny name.

ZOMG, ROBERT BYRD WAS RACIST FIDDY YEARS AGO SO WE ARE OK IN BEING RACIST SINCE HE DID IT ROFLMAO.

Just because Weigel got fired doesn't mean Republicans can continue with their nonsense without anyone else noticing. Sorry guys, but everyone knows the dumb stuff you do. :)

Posted by: DDAWD | June 28, 2010 7:55 PM | Report abuse

12Bar

No one is stopping you from posting.


You are insisting on censorship - you are censoring yourself.

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Posted by: Heatwave | June 28, 2010 7:53 PM | Report abuse

broadwayjoe


Since you seem to see racists everywhere - and are obsessed with racism - let me show you what a racist looks like:


(these guys didn't use proxy issues, as you can see)


Quote from Senator Byrd on blacks in the military.


Not gays, blacks:


I shall never fight in the armed forces with a Negro by my side... Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds.

- Robert Byrd

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Posted by: Heatwave | June 28, 2010 7:50 PM | Report abuse

I am moving aside to let Heatwave, previously known as 37th&OStreet, all the room he needs to give his point of view. And we all know that is a LOT of room.

For about the third time, I'm signing off. CC can't enforce the blocking for whatever reason. The only thing that would make this worse is if there were 2 spammer posters. I'll believe 37th is blocked after he's been gone for a week at least.

I don't know what CC ever did to deserve this constant spamming, but maybe he'll do something when the Comments drop off to no one except 37th.

Posted by: 12BarBlues | June 28, 2010 7:45 PM | Report abuse

Noacoler


I have done nothing that you haven't done


at least be honest about that.

You have absolutely nothing to complain about.

The fact that you are still around means that people are allowed to stay.

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Posted by: Heatwave | June 28, 2010 7:42 PM | Report abuse

It is especially poignant that on the same day a Senator who once belonged to the Klan departs this mortal coil, the SCOTUS delivers a ruling on the Right to Bear Arms that cites the right of freed slaves (freedmen) to bear arms as part of the historical background of the Second Amendment.


"Every man . . . should have the right to bear armsfor the defense of himself and family and his home-stead. And if the cabin door of the freedman is broken open and the intruder enters for purposes as vile as were known to slavery, then should a well-loaded musket be in the hand of the occupant to send the pol-luted wretch to another world, where his wretched-ness will forever remain complete."

Stephen Breyer, "Wise Latina" Sotomayor, Ruth Bader "Never hired an African-American when she practiced law" Ginsburg, and John Paul Stevens would have voted to deny the right of Freed Slaves to protect themselves.

The dissenters are couching their dissent in the language of states' rights, and professing that states and localities should be able to make up their own laws about gun control. It will be interesting to see how they vote about states' rights when ObamaCare's Individual Mandates and Arizona's Immigration Enforcement Law make it to the Supreme Court.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 28, 2010 7:42 PM | Report abuse

We don't need to speak ill of the dead, but if we are honest, we must acknowledge there is little if anything to be proud of in Senator Byrd's long Senate legacy. To his credit, however, he never killed a campaign worker while driving drunk over a bridge or joined another senator in making a waitress sandwich. His personal and family life seem to have been relatively decent for a Democrat senator.

The search is on now for a Democrat bench-warmer to hold the seat and vote in mindless lockstep with Reid, Schumer, and Durbin. Who'll start the bidding? After all, a senate seat is "a f--king valuable thing." And a West Virginia senate seat is apparently a life-long position.

White Sheets to be Flown at Half-Staff Today

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 28, 2010 7:41 PM | Report abuse

looks like an all Ped evening. Isn't it time to sneak in the back door of the bus for your ride home Ped? no one will notice if you leave a few minutes early. I mean it's not like you do anything.

Are you just staying at the office for the AC now?

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 28, 2010 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Noacoler writes


Free speech means allowing others to express their opinions,


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Exactly - tell this to ddawd, 12bar, leichtman and broadwayjoe

Free Speech means tolerance -

Now move aside and don't interfere with my speech.

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Posted by: Heatwave | June 28, 2010 7:35 PM | Report abuse

If the Stalanist purge continues at the Fix, pretty soon there will be no history of The Ped and drivl, all their posts being mindless insults.

Too bad. that is all they really have to offer. Now wander back to Kos or huff or whatever ignorant leftist hate site you call home now.

Are you guys going to erase the entire weekend thread? It was an all Ped, all night rant with no redeeming social value whatsoever. But so is all her stuff.

Posted by: bumblingberry | June 28, 2010 7:34 PM | Report abuse

37th, nobody and I mean nobody buys that what you do here has anything to do with free speech. Free speech means allowing others to express their opinions, not drowning them out with a foghorn, which is all you're doing.

Chris, it took you months to get around to banning this guy. Now he's doing the exact same thing, and it's having the exact same effect.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 28, 2010 7:29 PM | Report abuse

Yeah and what Byrd said half a century ago he formally repudiated later. Thanks heavens we have this garbage to dig up other garbage and defile the name of a man whose body isn't even cold yet, defending the party that embraces the same ideas today.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 28, 2010 7:26 PM | Report abuse

Hey 2010 if you think McCain is a RINO I doubt you're even bipedal

Posted by: Noacoler | June 28, 2010 7:17 PM | Report abuse

ddawd leichtman and 12Bar


Maybe you should move to Egypt - their laws on Suppression of Free Speech are more to your liking.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100628/wl_mideast_afp/egyptpolicerightsinternet

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Posted by: Heatwave | June 28, 2010 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Quote from Senator Byrd on blacks in the military.


Not gays, blacks:

I shall never fight in the armed forces with a Negro by my side... Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds.

- Robert Byrd

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Posted by: Heatwave | June 28, 2010 7:12 PM | Report abuse

It looks like WaPo has hired high schoolers to act as moderators. "If you see personal attacks, delete the post. Now turn over your papers and begin."

Never mind if it's repetitious incoherent drivel.

Posted by: Noacoler | June 28, 2010 6:55 PM | Report abuse

Please, please, I want to know Kathleen Parker or David Weigel's opinion on this new development. Folks, we are witnessing the total collapse of socialism in the world.

Posted by: Kansasgirl | June 28, 2010 6:39 PM | Report abuse

From all that I read, this is the right call. I'm a Republican, but the rule is the rule. I think Manchin gets to appoint a senator and then in 2012 there should be an election. Unfortunately for political lovers, this one must wait until the next election cycle. I think this will be a Manchin vs. Capito contest. It will likely be one of the closest and most expensive races in WV in an extremely long time. Especially while the governor's seat is open and Republicans will likely field former Sec. of State Betty Ireland. Could 2012 be the year of Republican women in WV? A Gov. & a US Senator in the same year? Or will the Democrats be able to win with Manchin and a strong governor's candidate? Either way, we will have to wait for this one to materialize at least until 2011. Watch for Democrat's to come after Capito hard in 2010. They won't win and they know it, but it will be to try to weaken her image for 2012.

Posted by: reason5 | June 28, 2010 6:33 PM | Report abuse

This is exactly how the Scott Brown thing started - the democrats in Massachusetts started messing with the law detailing the appointment of Senate vacancies.

Forgot that, didn't you?

The democrats can not be trusted - in government - to decide anything - taxes, laws, anything.

The People should decide who the Senator is - ANY DISPUTE should be decided in favor of the People deciding - not on any other basis.


This is just another disgrace.

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Posted by: Heatwave | June 28, 2010 6:25 PM | Report abuse

The democrats have a clear partisan motive not to have an election this year - but the law clearly sets up a date of July 3rd as the trigger date for a special election.

THIS IS THE DEMOCRATS' VERSION OF WEEKEND AT BERNIE'S


Keep the guy alive until July 3rd - and avoid the election.

A special election for a 5 week term is ridiculous.


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Posted by: Heatwave | June 28, 2010 6:20 PM | Report abuse

Well duh, they decided it the way that benefits their party.

After the way dems bend the rules over and over again did anybody really expect anything different for a decision that could be argued either way?

Posted by: standard_guy | June 28, 2010 6:18 PM | Report abuse

12Bar


Organizing a group of people to restrict the Freedom of Speech a poster is NO DIFFERENT from organizing a mob to stop blacks from voting.


It is a civil rights violation.


Are there any other parts of the Bill of Rights you would like to trample ???


This falls right in line with the democrats in West Virginia not wanting to hold an election this year - it is a complete disgrace.


The democratic party have lost all sense of what the Constitution means - of what it means to have the People run the country.

The democrats motto - of the Party, for the Party, by the Party.


And yes, it is a civil rights violation.

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Posted by: Heatwave | June 28, 2010 6:13 PM | Report abuse


I know! Maybe the Dems should appoint Al "Crazed Sex Poodle" Gore to the Senate to back door (sorry) him back into relevance!


Posted by: 2010Rout | June 28, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Obviously the Democrats don't want to risk an election this fall -- West Virginia is ripe for a 'Mike Brown' moment. A Republican could easily steal this Senate seat.

But the Democrats won't let the principles of democracy or the rule of law deter them. Power at all costs!

Posted by: diesel_skins_ | June 28, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Ddawd


This is par for the course -


the democrats do not care about Freedom of Speech -


the democrats do not care about holding elections.

Instead of holding the election this year, they are going to hold a special election for a 5 week term ???

This kind of stuff comes back to hurt the democrats. It is a joke.

Manchin should leave the seat open - and be a MAN and run this year for the seat himself.


If he wins, he wins. And then he will have to run for re-election in 2012.

The People of West Virginia should be angry that the democrats wish to FORGO ELECTIONS - APPOINT WHOEVER THEY WANT.

THE PEOPLE SHOULD DECIDE - NOT THE DEMOCRATS.


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Posted by: Heatwave | June 28, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

What the hell is the point of letting over one hundred weeks elapse before holding an election for a five week term? Is that just a function of the law?

In any case, it's good for the Democrats that they aren't defending this seat this November. It would definitely be a lot easier to hold it in 2012.

Posted by: DDAWD | June 28, 2010 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Again, the democrats are trying to mess with the law in order to hold onto a Senate seat.


Didn't the democrats learn from Massachusetts - where the democrats changed the law on appointments when they thought Kerry's seat might open up - and then changed the law again a few years later ???

THAT appointment gave the democrats the 60th vote in the Senate they needed for health care.

AGAIN - the democrats do not want to hold an election.

Hold an election this year - Nov 2010 - there is enough time for filing deadlines and primaries -

Grow up Manchin - if you want to be Senator run this year - when the seat is open - don't appoint a caretaker.

AND Manchin should leave the seat open until the fall election.

Be a man - tell the people that he doesn't think it is right to appoint himself and that he thinks the People should elect him to the seat.

And see if the People elect him.

That is the way it should be done.


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Posted by: Heatwave | June 28, 2010 5:51 PM | Report abuse

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